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Old 05-05-2010, 02:55 PM   #21
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Unless you are into cannabis. the best you'll get there is very low quality nipweed and if you try to set up business selling anything better the 'RA will cut your face off.
I dunno about that lol
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:00 PM   #22
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It'll kick off in Britain very quickly, did you see how angry those people, protesting about cuts, who attacked David Cameron's security people, were ,yesterday? The nineteen eighties riots will look like a side show compared to what might happen when people lose it , 'cause their dole, wages, pensions etc get cut and the price of food and fuel goes through the roof because our effin currency got devalued.........
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:15 PM   #23
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:42 PM   #24
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:49 PM   #25
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I dunno about that lol
Trust me, if I'm wrong about that I'll be overjoyed
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I don't know why people protesting in these sorts of riots don't suit up and wear helmuts like the police for protection. Also they should arm themselves with some battering rams and shields.

The people in Greece may have played the system but let us not forget that it is the bankers who caused it and who are profiting from it. The whole world is going to go the way of Greece and the banks and those behind them will end up being in charge and owning everything.

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Old 05-05-2010, 04:45 PM   #28
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there seems to be more photographers trying to get in on the action than actual rioters! lol
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all free men with the money need to go to greece and join our brothers in fighting this fight.

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Old 05-05-2010, 11:09 PM   #31
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Gotta hand it to the Greeks. They overthrew a fascist military junta back in the 'Seventies(?) with their own presence. Rioting in the streets isn't really the answer,though national and general strikes with street presence are, - and you suspect the bank employees died at the hands of police provocateurs.
They ain't taking it lying down or on their knees, and are giving a huge middle finger salute to the IMF, the EU and the central banksters. You got to admire their grit
The government should of course renege on the debt, kick out the central banking agencies, scrap the euro,pull out of the EU, reintroduce the drachma, drain resources from the billionaire playboys and set to work building up its GDP from a fresh start.
Along similar lines to what Argentina did when its economy and currency collapsed a few years ago, resulting in their going into strong growth

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Old 05-05-2010, 11:18 PM   #32
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Most of them were confiscated during the troubles (handguns that is)

But this Greek thing is just the start I reckon.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:56 PM   #33
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The statement below was issued a few hours ago by the anarchist squat of Skaramanga and Patision in Athens.

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(Regarding today’s tragic death of 3 people)

The enormous strike demonstration which took place today, 5th of May turned into a social outflow of rage. At least 200,000 people of all ages took to the streets (employees and unemployed, in the public and private sector, locals and migrants) attempting, over many hours and in consecutive waves, to surround and to take over the Parliament. The forces of repression came out in full force, to play their familiar role – that is, of the protection of the political and financial authorities. The clashes were hours long and extensive. The political system and its institutions reached a nadir.

However, in the midst of all this, a tragic event that no words can possibly describe took place: 3 people died from infusions at the branch of Marfin Bank on Stadiou Avenue, which was set ablaze.

The state and the entire journalistic riff-raff, without any shame toward the dead or their close ones, spoke from the very first moment about some “murderer-hooded up youths”, trying to take advantage of the event, in order to calm the wave of social rage that had erupted and to recover their authority that had been torn apart; to impose once again a police occupation of the streets, to wipe out sources of social resistance and disobedience against state terrorism and capitalist barbarity. For this reason, during the last few hours the police forces have been marching through the center of Athens, they have conducted hundreds of detentions and they raided – with shootings and stun-grenades – the anarchist occupation “space of united multiform action” on Zaimi street and the “migrant haunt” on Tsamadou Street, causing extensive damage (both these places are in the Exarcheia neighbourhood of Athens). At the same time the threat of a violent police eviction is hanging over the rest of the self-organised spaces (occupations and haunts) after the Prime-ministerial speech which referred to soon-to-come raids for the arrest of the “murderers”.

The governors, governmental officials, their political personnel, the TV-mouthpieces and the salaried hack writers attempt in this way to purify their regime and the criminalise the anarchists and every unpatronised voice of struggle. As if there would ever be the slightest of chances that whoever attacked the bank (provided the official scenario stands) would possibly know there were people inside, and that they would torch it alight regardless. They seem to confuse the people in struggle for themselves: them who without any hesitation hand over the entire society to the deepest pillage and enslaving, who order their praetorians to attack without hesitation and to aim and shoot to kill, them who have lead three people to suicide in the past week alone, due to financial debts.

The truth is that the real murderer, the real instigator of today’s tragic death of 3 people is “mister” Vgenopoulos, who used the usual employers’ blackmailing (the threat of sacking) and forced his employees to work in the branches of his bank during a day of strike – and even in a branch like the one of Stadiou Avenue, where the strike’s demonstration would pass through. Such blackmailing is known only too well by anyone experiencing the terrorism of salaried slavery on an everyday level. We are awaiting to see what excuses Vgenopoulos will come up with for the relatives of the victims and for the society as a whole – this ultra-capitalist now hinted by some centers of power as the next prime minister in a future “national unity government” that could follow the expected, complete collapse of the political system.

If an unprecedented strike can ever be a murderer…

If an unprecedented demonstration, in an unprecedented crisis, can ever be a murderer…

If open social spaces that are alive and public can ever be murderers…

If the state can impose a curfew and attack demonstrators under the pretext of arresting murderers…

If Vgenopoulos can detain his employees inside a bank – that is, a primary social enemy and target for demonstrators…

…it is because authority, this serial murderer, wants to slaughter upon its birth a revolt which questions the supposed solution of an even harsher attack on society, of an even larger pillage by capital, of an even thirstier sucking of our blood.

…it is because the future of the revolt does not include politicians and bosses, police and mass media.

… it is because behind their much-advertised “only” solution, there is a solution that does not speak of development rates and unemployment but rather, it speaks of solidarity, self-organising and human relationships.

When asking who are the murderers of life, of freedom, of dignity, the ferments of authority and capital, they and their tuft hunters only need to take a look at their own selves. Today and every day.

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IT IS THE STATE AND THE CAPITALISTS WHO ARE THE MURDERERS, TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS

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The statement below was issued a few hours ago by the anarchist squat of Skaramanga and Patision in Athens.
From previous experience it is expected that the 'hooded youth' were police agents well aware that there were people working in the bank (though god knows why on this day of all days, when they were obvious potential victims)

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Old 06-05-2010, 12:23 AM   #35
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So if Greece goes down then everyone from PIIGS goes down
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:33 AM   #36
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Most of them were confiscated during the troubles (handguns that is)

But this Greek thing is just the start I reckon.
Rumors say, Ms Merkel is planing on 8.5.2010 a speech to the people announcing some drastic changes. Rumors also say since weeks, that Germany will leave the Euro zone.

The Euro has always been highly unpopular here, since they ripped us off in comparison to DM (~1:2 Euro : DM) but prices and wages stayed the same and even decreased.

Its claimed that a new DM has long been printed, and that people will lose all the saved money, due to the reintroduction of a new DM.

This fits into the report, that French and German Police currently train to crush an 'imaginary' uprise, aka civil war/riots.

Don't forget, we have loads of illegal (heavy) weapons here, which the Russians sold when they left.

And finally, the Germans have the habit to be quiet, but if they rise up then it will be traditionally too late for the ruling elite.
So there is a very short warning period for them.

People are really very pissed over here, since we are bankrupt as well, the milking cow is almost dead, so to speak.

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http://www.hartgeld.com/infos-DE.htm

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[21:30] Eine Quelle aus der Regierung kündigt für 8.5. (diesen Samstag) eine wichtige Merkel-Rede über "grundlegende, drastische Änderungen" an. Vorgezogene Währungsreform? nach Ansicht der Quelle könnte auch ein "Bank-Holiday" über eine Woche oder so angekündigt werden. Die Eliten transportieren gerade ihre Familien und Wertgegenstände aus Berlin ab. Revolution wegen Haircut?
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[21:30] A source from the government announces 8.5. (This Saturday) is an important Merkel's speech about "fundamental, drastic changes" to. Early currency reform? According to the source could also be a "Bank Holiday" will be announced about a week or so. The elites just to transport their families and valuables out from Berlin. Revolution because Haircut?
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Exercise for counter-insurgency war against the people of French and German security forces of the police in Toul-Rosières - Exercise topic is the simulation of violent actions on both sides of the border as part of a mass demonstration
http://www.radio-utopie.de/2010/05/0...eraumt-werden/

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Take into account that more and more people have waken up to the facts on this thread... http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112617

Also, on the 1.5. there were about 10000 Police personal in Berlin, due to the standard riots at this date.
It is not known if they left.

Here is a further link to the German Police Labor Union, dating back to 08/2009.
http://www.gdp.de/gdp/gdp.nsf/id/dp2...DeuPol0805.pdf
The Article talks about expected riots in times after last years elections.

Well, we'll see for sure what comes out of this.
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Well, the usual 'violent anarchists' line didn't work on the bank workers...

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ATHENS (Dow Jones)--Greece's bank workers union, OTOE, said it will stage a 24-hour strike Thursday in memory of three bank employees who were killed during a violent protest over recent government austerity measures.

"The tragic events that ended the lives of three colleagues is a sad consequence of the anti-popular measures which led to an uprising of popular rage and the protest of hundreds of thousands of workers," OTOE said in a statement late Wednesday.

The statement blamed both the government for underestimating the popular opposition to the measures, and the management of Greece's banks who frown on their employees taking part in strikes.

On Sunday, the Greek government announced some EUR30 billion in austerity measures in exchange for an EUR110 billion loan from the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.
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I feel an obligation toward my co-workers who have so unjustly died today to speak out and to say some objective truths. I am sending this message to all media outlets. Anyone who still bares some consciousness should publish it. The rest can continue to play the government’s game.

The fire brigade had never issued an operating license to the building in question. The agreement for it to operate was under the table, as it practically happens with all businesses and companies in Greece.

The building in question has no fire safety mechanisms in place, neither planned nor installed ones – that is, it has no ceiling sprinklers, fire exits or fire hoses. There are only some portable fire extinguishers which, of course, cannot help in dealing with extensive fire in a building that is built with long-outdated security standards.

No branch of Marfin bank has had any member of staff trained in dealing with fire, not even in the use of the few fire extinguishers. The management also uses the high costs of such training as a pretext and will not take even the most basic measures to protect its staff.

There has never been a single evacuation exercise in any building by staff members, nor have there been any training sessions by the fire-brigade, to give instructions for situations like this. The only training sessions that have taken place at Marfin Bank concern terrorist action scenarios and specifically planning the escape of the banks’ “big heads” from their offices in such a situation.

The building in question had no special accommodation for the case of fire, even though its construction is very sensitive under such circumstances and even though it was filled with materials from floor to ceiling. Materials which are very inflammable, such as paper, plastics, wires, furniture. The building is objectively unsuitable for use as a bank due to its construction.

No member of security has any knowledge of first aid or fire extinguishing, even though they are every time practically charged with securing the building. The bank employees have to turn into firemen or security staff according to the appetite of Mr Vgenopoulos [owner of Marfin Bank].

The management of the bank strictly bared the employees from leaving today, even though they had persistently asked so themselves from very early this morning – while they also forced the employees to lock up the doors and repeatedly confirmed that the building remained locked up throughout the day, over the phone. They even blocked off their internet access so as to prevent the employees from communicating with the outside world.

For many days now there has been some complete terrorisation of the bank’s employees in regard to the mobilisations of these days, with the verbal “offer”: you either work, or you get fired.

The two undercover police who are dispatched at the branch in question for robbery prevention did not show up today, even though the bank’s management had verbally promised to the employees that they would be there.

At last, gentlemen, make your self-criticism and stop wandering around pretending to be shocked. You are responsible for what happened today and in any rightful state (like the ones you like to use from time to time as leading examples on your TV shows) you would have already been arrested for the above actions. My co-workers lost their lives today by malice: the malice of Marfin Bank and Mr. Vgenopoulos personally who explicitly stated that whoever didin’t come to work today [May 5th, a day of a general strike!] should not bother showing up for work tomorrow [as they would get fired].

- An employee of Marfin Bank
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:47 AM   #39
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Fckn disgusting.

And what is worse is that these measures take place right here in the UK and elsewhere. Not only in the banks, but in most companies with authoritarian attitudes..............and worse, it's all either, at best supported, or ignored or turned a blind eye, by government.

The bstd governments support all implementations put in place by these ruthless corporates and could care less about even finding out if health and safety is in place................or worse, just go by all the tick boxes that these companies put in when answering questions about H&S issues and then take a decade or two, or never at all, to check it out.

Do our governments have 'our' working interests at heart, or have our health and safety interests at heart? Do they hell. All they care about is lining their pockets with big fat corporate donations going into their political agendas and a 'I'll scratch your back, if you'll scratch mine' POLICY!

Good on the Greeks! Where it will lead us, I don't know, but I sure as hell hope more people wake up and realise that attacking each other isn't the answer. We desperately need unity
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