sheffield council parking ticket debate...

[rosix]

Originally Posted by burnttoast

I've had first hand experience at it working, but please continue cutting and pasting Acts that you believe as your law in this arena.


Peace

I don't think I can recall a single post I've directly disagreed with from you BT, but to sort of play devil's advocate or whatever, it can make 'the game' so much easier overall if one can trump them with their own home-rules (the Acts etc.)

[sindakit]

Originally Posted by the worm that turned

3 Bill of exchange defined

(1)A bill of exchange is an unconditional order in writing, addressed by one person to another, signed by the person giving it, requiring the person to whom it is addressed to pay on demand or at a fixed or determinable future time a sum certain in money to or to the order of a specified person, or to bearer.

is this act not stating that:
A has sent a BOE to B
A has signed the BOE
B has to pay the amount on the BOE
This amount has to be paid by B to A or to C (bearer)

Thats how I read this Act.

Perhaps we should start a new thread, titled 'What is a BOE?' and let this one get back on track?

[number_6]

Originally Posted by burnttoast

I've had first hand experience at it working, but please continue cutting and pasting Acts that you believe as your law in this arena.


Peace

I think you may find that I only cut and pasted in post 39. The simple reason was because I was specifically asked where a particular reference was in a certain Act, so I pointed it out. If there is a better way, perhaps you would be kind enough to enlighten me?
I assume from the tone of your post that you are implying that I know nothing of which I speak. That's fine. It would also appear that by you referring to "cut and paste" in the way that you did was a means of attempting to destroy any credibility that I may have and an attack on my intelligence. I can live with that. After all, a sarcastic remark such as your post quoted above is of course a much easier way of winning an argument. However, I would point out that if cut and paste ceased to be employed by posters on this site, I should imagine the site would collapse due to the lack of posters because it would appear that most of the information provided on this site is not original, but copied from elsewhere..
It matters nothing to me, if you doubt my knowledge of a Bill of Exchange. However, my fear is for people who follow unproven advice that is ill informed and end up in more trouble than they started with.
But, as it's not my neck on the line, I'm not the one with the PCN, perhaps it would be best for the OP to follow the advice of yourself in fighting this PCN and not mine, and see if they succeed or it ends up costing them more. I await their result with anticipation.

[burnttoast]

Originally Posted by number_6

perhaps it would be best for the OP to follow the advice of yourself in fighting this PCN and not mine, and see if they succeed or it ends up costing them more. I await their result with anticipation.

Since when is acceptance fighting?...you fight your in dishonor...accept (conditionally) your in honor.....oh and don't take things personally, I'll apologise outright if my post came off sarcastic...it's a character trait I'm trying to curb.
I don't know it all...never will, but love to learn.

Peace

[the worm that turned]

Originally Posted by number_6

5(1)
A bill may be drawn payable to, or to the order of, the drawer; or it may be drawn payable to, or to the order of, the drawee.

7 Certainty required as to payee.(1)Where a bill is not payable to bearer, the payee must be named or otherwise indicated therein with reasonable certainty.

OK so to try and clear this up lets go to the new thread "What is a bill of exchange?" and leave this thread in piece!

[waterpistol]

Originally Posted by waterpistol

so... for the initiated; i despatched the last letter i drafted on here to the council, on the premise that if they do not send me proof of a bill of payment, or a contract that says i have to pay £x because i committed an offence then i shan't pay.

am i correct in my assumptions?

many thanks posters!

UN-initiated!!!

[theoneandonly]

Originally Posted by bones

thats the near exact reply to my first PCN.

i replied with exactly the same as my first notice.

define NOTICE, is this a bill?

"we know its not"

ask em for a bill to administer your accounts and send copy of the contract that binds you to the bill"

read the bills of exchange act 1882.

they will send threatening letters and will get collection dept involved.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND DONT QUIT NO MATTER WHAT.

go the thinkfreefourns.org and look under uk, title called "parking notice" by bones...

all my replies are there...


its been 16 months since my first notice and i still havnt paid a penny and had no letters since dec 08.

Do you have a link for the thread on thinkfreeforums.. i cant seem to find it? thankss

[bones]

Originally Posted by theoneandonly

Do you have a link for the thread on thinkfreeforums.. i cant seem to find it? thankss

here you go but remember i was newish to the freeman stuff back then so forgive my innocence over the issue. im much more confident now!!

http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewt...hp?f=52&t=2227

[theoneandonly]

Originally Posted by bones

here you go but remember i was newish to the freeman stuff back then so forgive my innocence over the issue. im much more confident now!!

http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewt...hp?f=52&t=2227

Thankss you are forgiven
Got my first PCN today.. trying to find a suitable notice to notice them with! Scary stuff!

[pleasuredome]

Originally Posted by theoneandonly

Thankss you are forgiven
Got my first PCN today.. trying to find a suitable notice to notice them with! Scary stuff!

glad to see you starting. the best thing about this is they know that with every new notice being served there's a new man starting out on the journey, and that must piss them off the most.