James Randi versus the Psychic mediums

the moral man · 05-11-2009, 01:14 AM

Dear Friends
kind regards
Psychic mediums channel the spirits of the dead and provide comfort to the living still here, it has proven very profitable for some of them.
Sylvia Browne charges $700 dollars for a 30 minute reading over the phone, yet she has made predictions that have fallen flat on their faces.
Take a look at these clips.

Part 1.

Part 2.

James Randi was interviewed on CNN, along with Sylvia Browne's CEO.
Randi offers $1 million dollars to any psychic who can prove their psychic abilities.
Randi was a magician who believes that psychics use treachery instead of having genuine powers.
Have you come across James Randi and what are your views about him?
What are your views on psychic mediums?
If you could give me your opinions A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

les_paul_robot · 05-11-2009, 01:28 AM

James Randi is an obnoxious ****

ekim · 05-11-2009, 01:32 AM

I always felt strange about Sylvia Brown, not sure what it is about her but she freaks me out.

As for mediums, I know one personally, charges a small fee, and have had very interesting readings. One thing I have learned is the information you recieve is based on that moment in time and can change within minutes of the reading as life is ever changing.

I haven't been to my friend for a reading in some time as I don't feel the need to know what possibily may exsist at this time, I already know the possiblities.

the moral man · 05-11-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by les_paul_robot

James Randi is an obnoxious ****

Dear les_paul_robot
kind regards
I disagree with your comments about James Randi.
James Randi is a necessary evil in the face of spiritual charlatans that fleece people.
Long may Randi be here to put the frighteners on the exploiters.
yours thankfully
John

fratoue · 05-11-2009, 01:39 AM

Randi is a disinfo agent without a doubt. This cunt tries to discredit all conspiracies, outer body experiences all the time and lumps people like Icke in with physic detective charlatans on his shows and talks. Hes not to be trusted and is another road block toward enlightenment.

suicidal_martyr · 05-11-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the moral man

Dear Friends
kind regards
Psychic mediums channel the spirits of the dead and provide comfort to the living still here, it has proven very profitable for some of them.
Sylvia Browne charges $700 dollars for a 30 minute reading over the phone, yet she has made predictions that have fallen flat on their faces.
Take a look at these clips.

Part 1.

Part 2.

James Randi was interviewed on CNN, along with Sylvia Browne's CEO.
Randi offers $1 million dollars to any psychic who can prove their psychic abilities.
Randi was a magician who believes that psychics use treachery instead of having genuine powers.
Have you come across James Randi and what are your views about him?
What are your views on psychic mediums?
If you could give me your opinions A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

Psychics aren't always right, I agree when the lady said Sylvia could of been seeing another person, but I also think different beings could of been channeled at the moment she was giving the reading on Montel, or seeing what could of happened. It's funny because the cases shown and documents shown as proof of her success are overlooked when one finds incorrect readings from her. A bad view psychics get a lot that if they are wrong they are automatically frauds or fakes. They just aren't always right is what I believe.

I have a friend who is psychic, he said he can not control it most of the time and isn't always right but I tested him once and visualized standing up and patting him on the head to see how he would react and then he looks over at me and smiles and physically stands up and does to me what I had just visualized doing to him. I got goose bumps and didn't say nothing about it, although it does feel awkward being around him at times as I am afraid he could be eavesdropping in thoughts lol. One time he was in a bad wreck with friends and he told me before they got in the car to leave he heard a voice in his head "are you ready?" as if something was going to happen. I asked why did he go anyway and told me he felt as if he was supposed to go through it. Confusing really but I have my own proof at least through my own testing of him.

the moral man · 05-11-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ekim

I always felt strange about Sylvia Brown, not sure what it is about her but she freaks me out.

As for mediums, I know one personally, charges a small fee, and have had very interesting readings. One thing I have learned is the information you recieve is based on that moment in time and can change within minutes of the reading as life is ever changing.

I haven't been to my friend for a reading in some time as I don't feel the need to know what possibily may exsist at this time, I already know the possiblities.

Dear ekim
kind regards
Your intuition about Sylvia Brown is well founded, take a look at these two clips.

1.

2.

A clever young lady has written a very concise case against Sylvia Brown.
3. http://hubpages.com/hub/Sylvia_Brown...onvicted_Felon
Here is the official website that seeks to expose Sylvia Brown.
4. http://stopsylvia.com/home/
What kind of a person charges $700 dollars for a twenty minute reading?
This woman is an obvious blight on the genuine psychic mediums out there.
I think that psychics can be accurate in their readings, however, never forget that if your Higher Self will only give the psychic the answers if Shim wants to.
If the Higher Self doesn't think that the Incarnation is ready for information (any or part) then the Incarnation gets nothing from a reading.
yours thankfully
John

whiterain · 05-11-2009, 01:48 AM

i dont know much about being psychic, but i do know that interpreting visions and dreams is far from an exact science and near impossible to prove in lab conditions. what kind of proof is randi after? i say that as after news of the machines that may be able to show visuals of peoples thoughts and dreams, would he accept it if someone could record part of a dream that later happened in reality?

the moral man · 05-11-2009, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fratoue

Randi is a disinfo agent without a doubt. This cunt tries to discredit all conspiracies, outer body experiences all the time and lumps people like Icke in with physic detective charlatans on his shows and talks. Hes not to be trusted and is another road block toward enlightenment.

Dear fratoue
kind regards
Well I feel that James Randi is the extreme polar opposite of the charlatans, he uses them to discredit all psychic and spiritual phenomena.
However, the mainstream psychics make it so very easy for him to beat them down.

James Randi exposes Uri Geller.

Rosemary Altea exposed.

I feel that the real and genuine psychics are not going to peddle their gift as a commodity in the media for everyone to see.
The charlatan psychics on our TV screens are aiding the cause of James Randi with their behaviour.
The media is a pigsty and incapable of giving us the truth on anything.
yours thankfully
John

funkyjesus · 05-11-2009, 04:29 AM

I am not exactly a fan of the JREF community but they are just on the opposite end of the scale to us.

We would be seen as believing everything while we see them as believing nothing. Both need to exist as if we didn't, they would never change as nothing will ever improve - we are the peak of evolution while if they didn't exist, who knows what we'd end up thinking is reality. We are cousins who hate each other at the end of the day, but still family.

Everything I've seen though gives me the impression that Randi would believe if he got proof which is reasonable but those who follow him on his site would prefer to have us all whisked away to hell so we didn't speak.

05-11-2009, 01:14 AM	#1
the moral man Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 703	James Randi versus the Psychic mediums Dear Friends kind regards Psychic mediums channel the spirits of the dead and provide comfort to the living still here, it has proven very profitable for some of them. Sylvia Browne charges $700 dollars for a 30 minute reading over the phone, yet she has made predictions that have fallen flat on their faces. Take a look at these clips. Part 1. Part 2. James Randi was interviewed on CNN, along with Sylvia Browne's CEO. Randi offers $1 million dollars to any psychic who can prove their psychic abilities. Randi was a magician who believes that psychics use treachery instead of having genuine powers. Have you come across James Randi and what are your views about him? What are your views on psychic mediums? If you could give me your opinions A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it. yours thankfully John

05-11-2009, 01:28 AM	#2
les_paul_robot Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 663	James Randi is an obnoxious **** __________________ "I am the milkman of human kindness - I will leave an extra pint" --Billy Bragg

05-11-2009, 01:48 AM	#8
whiterain Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pricker ward Posts: 1,618	i dont know much about being psychic, but i do know that interpreting visions and dreams is far from an exact science and near impossible to prove in lab conditions. what kind of proof is randi after? i say that as after news of the machines that may be able to show visuals of peoples thoughts and dreams, would he accept it if someone could record part of a dream that later happened in reality? __________________ the truth is beautiful

05-11-2009, 01:32 AM	#3
ekim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 394	I always felt strange about Sylvia Brown, not sure what it is about her but she freaks me out. As for mediums, I know one personally, charges a small fee, and have had very interesting readings. One thing I have learned is the information you recieve is based on that moment in time and can change within minutes of the reading as life is ever changing. I haven't been to my friend for a reading in some time as I don't feel the need to know what possibily may exsist at this time, I already know the possiblities.

05-11-2009, 01:39 AM	#5
fratoue Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 360	Randi is a disinfo agent without a doubt. This cunt tries to discredit all conspiracies, outer body experiences all the time and lumps people like Icke in with physic detective charlatans on his shows and talks. Hes not to be trusted and is another road block toward enlightenment.

05-11-2009, 04:29 AM	#10
funkyjesus On Warning Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 235	I am not exactly a fan of the JREF community but they are just on the opposite end of the scale to us. We would be seen as believing everything while we see them as believing nothing. Both need to exist as if we didn't, they would never change as nothing will ever improve - we are the peak of evolution while if they didn't exist, who knows what we'd end up thinking is reality. We are cousins who hate each other at the end of the day, but still family. Everything I've seen though gives me the impression that Randi would believe if he got proof which is reasonable but those who follow him on his site would prefer to have us all whisked away to hell so we didn't speak.