After CWL3s great idea for a new DI covenant where we all debate as friends, and even EXU whom agreed and played his part. Valmar was also open and invited me to his friends list which i accepted, i am saddened to see tonight that a number of users have refused our hand of friendship stating we are showing signs of being typical 'abusers' and this is at the same time as 'abusing' us as i have just came home from work, logged on and all i see is us all being called 'Fundi xians' and spoken about in the same old derogatory manner.

Really dissapointed.

Thought i would post my dissapointment here as i do not want to bring more negativity to the DIF.

Hi my friend, don't let it get you down. I have been told repeatedly (until I finally got it through my head) to not take anything personally on here. Try as we may, there will always be people who just love to fight and argue and don't know how to talk or debate anything without getting all twisted in a knot. I guess it's like how some couples never really learn how to "communicate". You're a good and interesting poster BB and there are lots of other nice people and good posters on here. You keep things interesting and I always appreciate your posts as I am sure others do. Just be an example and maybe they will follow.

Understand BB's concern. There's reasons for this negativity I feel.

I could be posting out of turn but I do not understand D I's position. Apparently he used to believe in Jesus, used to believe he communicated with Jesus, then moved to believing Jesus never existed. How can that work?

Besides Jesus actually existing is one of the easiest historical figures to prove.

I think many see us a vehicle to attack Christianity, and what concerns me, if some of this N W O thing is to be true, his own blaming of Christianity and his changing of stance on Jesus perhaps gives people the feeling of the right to light their mob torches. Hmmmm.

Well thank you both, your both very nice people and i know you are both right.

I am a little upset also that after us being called all the names under the sun i posted a thread regarding Witchcraft which was in connection to one of the vile debates going on in another thread, and then i got accused of being offensive.

To be honest i can see how i could have perhaps worded it better, but i am still not mature enough to completely act in a neutral fashion and i do often find myself 'retaliating'.

However to be called offensive after everything we had thrown at us was simply 'patronising' imo.

Also i am sure there are lots of very nice witches out there, i do not actually even have a problem with individuals.

It was merely a topic of discussion

Oh dang, BB, I hope you don't think I was referring to you when I made a little statement about the witches and said people should get a grip. Not at all and I am so sorry if it looked that way. I just get so tired of people condemning each other. I am a bit defensive when it comes to 'witches' because of my grandmother.

No not at-all, i was a little worried that i may have upset you, as i definitely would not do that.

However i was actually talking about the Mods.

Sorry Mods

Alas, dont try to make nice with a piranha...they only turn around and bite....or as Jesus put it:

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Hey KoG - where the heck have you been? I miss your posts. And AA seems to have left also. Actually, a lot of people in our little group don't seem to be posting.

Hi Chrys,

I post on DIF from time to time but largely cannot be bothered because so much of it has become a waste of space (and when I give as good as I get, I get 10 bonus points from the mods as well ). Too many posters are sock puppets, trolls or out-and-out loonies.

Is there some way to know if someone is a sock puppet? And I am not certain of the term but I think it means one person with many accounts?