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pilgrimshost
19-09-2007, 11:51 PM
Hi this is my first post here, so hello all.

Regarding the information and research that David Icke has put forward about the truth of Earth history I would like to ask a question about the Aztec civilization. Where their actions towards the end of their Empire anything to do with the Reptilians and the plans for the new world order?

Tonight I was watching a programme called 'Unsolved history' on 'Discovery civilization' about the final years of the AZTECS. The Aztec priests sacrifised apparently 20,000 people to their sun gods and blood was the eliment the gods desired most. This was to appease the gods to avert doom for their civilization that was prophesised. The Temple images had what looked like reptilian gods drinking the blood and at a certain time of year a serpant god was revieled by the shadow on the steps of the main pyramid temple structure.

I wonder if these people were eessentially tricked into killing their people for their gods to feast on and the arrival of Spanish Concestadors where also a part of the Reptilian plan to start the settling of the Americas.

What do you think?

octopusrex
29-10-2007, 04:48 AM
I'll put it to you this way, laddy..
Best you brush up on your Spanish, and you start learning Nahuatl.

misscpb
07-11-2007, 02:56 PM
Hi this is my first post here, so hello all.

Regarding the information and research that David Icke has put forward about the truth of Earth history I would like to ask a question about the Aztec civilization. Where their actions towards the end of their Empire anything to do with the Reptilians and the plans for the new world order?

Tonight I was watching a programme called 'Unsolved history' on 'Discovery civilization' about the final years of the AZTECS. The Aztec priests sacrifised apparently 20,000 people to their sun gods and blood was the eliment the gods desired most. This was to appease the gods to avert doom for their civilization that was prophesised. The Temple images had what looked like reptilian gods drinking the blood and at a certain time of year a serpant god was revieled by the shadow on the steps of the main pyramid temple structure.

I wonder if these people were eessentially tricked into killing their people for their gods to feast on and the arrival of Spanish Concestadors where also a part of the Reptilian plan to start the settling of the Americas.

What do you think?


Hi There

That sounds very interesting, I wish I would have watched that program.

octopusrex
07-11-2007, 05:27 PM
Chicken feed compared to WWI and WWII or even the Holy Inquisition.

3rdeye
30-11-2007, 01:59 AM
Hi this is my first post here, so hello all.

Regarding the information and research that David Icke has put forward about the truth of Earth history I would like to ask a question about the Aztec civilization. Where their actions towards the end of their Empire anything to do with the Reptilians and the plans for the new world order?

Tonight I was watching a programme called 'Unsolved history' on 'Discovery civilization' about the final years of the AZTECS. The Aztec priests sacrifised apparently 20,000 people to their sun gods and blood was the eliment the gods desired most. This was to appease the gods to avert doom for their civilization that was prophesised. The Temple images had what looked like reptilian gods drinking the blood and at a certain time of year a serpant god was revieled by the shadow on the steps of the main pyramid temple structure.

I wonder if these people were eessentially tricked into killing their people for their gods to feast on and the arrival of Spanish Concestadors where also a part of the Reptilian plan to start the settling of the Americas.

What do you think?

hey there,
quite an interesting post , unfortunitly i didnt manage to see that doco yet but in remembering the aztecs and the mayans both took part in these sacraficial practises and both in ancients tabletures claim to have been interbred and decendents of the serpents, what i must address is the fact that these same mass sacrifices must have some direct connection to the likes of the WORLD WARS in recent history?
i beleive the reptilians done these rituals because their 'GODS' are not gods but demons or evil jinns,
in the likes of the modern day BILDERBURG /SKULL & CROSS BONES secret societs these same rituals are still taking place :
drinking from human skulls ,sacrifice of virgins ,blatent demon/devil worship if you ask me .
these are the same exact people who are pulling all of the strings that control our politics,religion,justice systems,banking ,scientists etc..

DO WE HONESTLY BELEIVE THAT THE POWER OF LOVE IS IN CONTROL OF OUR WORLD AT THE MOMENT ?? not for a secong mate ...

one more on the mass sacrifices is that TIMING is been ever so important for these guys and that i have no doubt in my mind that in the nect 5 years we are going to witness some more of these mass murder/sacrifices either resulting in a WW3 type senario ,
but what we must remeber is that they are doin this to create fear and chaos in a societies and that we have the power to deny them of that fear on which they crave .
and we have the power to evolve with nature in love and not evolve full of fear and hate for each other ,and not to fear death as has been said many times i quote
" there is no such thing as death, life s only a dream , and we are the imagination of ourselves . We are one conciousness experiencing itself subjectivley " gotta love that quote we miss you BILL HICKS!!
peace my brothers :)

octopusrex
14-12-2007, 05:09 AM
DO WE HONESTLY BELEIVE THAT THE POWER OF LOVE IS IN CONTROL OF OUR WORLD AT THE MOMENT ?? not for a secong mate ...

"our" world kimosabe? The worlds of each individual are separate and distinct. One can be living in heaven the other in hell and both can be on the same town, same street, same BUILDING.

Think about it. My world is powered by love. Is yours?

aizzy
14-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Hi this is my first post here, so hello all.



hello you:p

3rdeye
17-12-2007, 09:49 PM
DO WE HONESTLY BELEIVE THAT THE POWER OF LOVE IS IN CONTROL OF OUR WORLD AT THE MOMENT ?? not for a secong mate ...

"our" world kimosabe? The worlds of each individual are separate and distinct. One can be living in heaven the other in hell and both can be on the same town, same street, same BUILDING.

Think about it. My world is powered by love. Is yours?


hmm i like the way you think ...
i beleive you are talking about our inner world but i am talking about the physical world which 95% of people beleive themselves to be a part of , you know running banks,policeFORCEs ,supreme courts ...basicly calling the shots .
but as you say our own perspective of the world maybe love or hate for that matter but that is purely because what we are consious of we are aware, so if you concentrate on only the good thbings surely it would appear that everything is fine and dandy.... but on tha contrare if you make yourself consious of the evill you will be aware and see it everywhere, and all where we last expect ikt .
thanx ;)
peace

octopusrex
18-12-2007, 07:15 AM
Eye:

Focus on evil, you will find it.
Focus on peace, you will find it.

Folks will dream up all manner of nightmares to keep their minds occupied.
I used to work as a horror writer. I know.

I still like to write.

3rdeye
16-01-2008, 01:13 AM
Eye:

Focus on evil, you will find it.
Focus on peace, you will find it.

Folks will dream up all manner of nightmares to keep their minds occupied.
I used to work as a horror writer. I know.

I still like to write.

awesome ! i like that ...
im just an amatuer but im getting quite into writing i find it a very good way to channel my thoughts , but is till find myself having problem staying on the same subject for more than a paragraph! lol

to continue on the focusing subject i still beleive you are refering to the inner world in which we perceive it , on a personal level of admiration .
As i am refering to the 3d world outside your window the one with all the manipulation,lies,brainwashing,rascism , power thirsty cops!,hungry children diing everyday, WORLD WARS.
now all of these things are not only there because i am aware of them are they not ?? its being aware and spreading that awareness that can help take action against such beasts that create such an enviroment for us to live in , only to feed there darkness .
the world is not all candy floss and rainbows like alot of people like to let themselves beleive ... an its only by focusing GOOD energy INTO (not at) the BAD that we can redeem them from there suffering .as ignorance is bliss because one cannot not regret,remorse,forgive or ignore the love of what one does not know to exist .

this is exactly why the pure souls will be lifted from the world in the next few years why earth's rain of hatred can contininue untill it invelopes itself in a one big ball of hatred .. as hatred can only feed on hatred, not on love .
love will lift us higher than we ever imagined , as hatred will leave you behind ;)



honestly dont know where that came from but it sounds awesome im gonna keep it .. hehe
just another thought, curtisy of an unbias youngster thanx :)

just one more .... another example is that of the 1000's of americns that go to war everday to "fight" for there freedom, haha , if anytnhing they are fighting for fascism . but what gets me is that there MASSIVE ego's make them so blind to the truth that really think they are helping . it just doesnt add up to me " ok im gonna go kill some people in iraq an that will help how ??" it just doesnt add up to me .
IF/WHEn the day comes that my country (New Zealand) askes me to go and fight for them is they day i get seriously up there ass to dig out all the shit for all to see , i dont care if i have to use all of my money to put an add on t.v for 5 mins just to get my point accross ..hmm maybe i should ask DAVID if he wouyld like to join me :) anyone else feel they would like to invest? haha

deathcultreject
16-01-2008, 05:29 AM
The priests of Tezcatlipocca wore black robes with skulls and crosed bones on them.

Tezctlipocca represented human sacrifice, trickery, sorcery and mass murder by manipulating the various herding / stampeding intincts which civilised people have when they're guided by a strong enough manipulator.

He was the opposite of Quetzalcoattle, a benign god of love, healing and social harmony, who was opposed to human sacrifice.

The Aztecs believed that they were in a part of the cycle which Tezcatlipocca ruled over, much the same as Hindus believe in the Kali Yugga.

When I invoked Tezcatlipocca I got on quite well with him. He told me that there's no place for human sacrifice in our communities, because people won't see it as a joyous thing anymore. Our values have changed.

I was relieved to hear that because some gods don't take well to an argument.

He said that his brother teaches peace on the outside which makes people rotten or troubled inside, whilst he teaches peace inside, even when life and death becomes like hell.

I don't trust anything Tezcatlipocca tells me.

I thought some of you might be interested to know about the skull and bones conection.

armoured_amazon
19-01-2008, 06:09 PM
this is exactly why the pure souls will be lifted from the world in the next few years why earth's rain of hatred can contininue untill it invelopes itself in a one big ball of hatred .. as hatred can only feed on hatred, not on love .

Prophecy. :)

3rdeye
20-01-2008, 01:15 AM
Prophecy. :)

nope just hope ;)
coz im sick of all the hatred/war and im pretty sure god is too!!
judgement day will come "welcome to the new dark ages ..i hopen your livin right " Bad religion i love that song.

marpat
03-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Yup the 20,000 Aztec sacrifice thing is true. I think it was ordered by the father of Montezuma but the effect was that even the Aztecs were appaled by the scale of things and though something bad would come of it, the reason being that the emperor had used the sacrifice to the gods as a means of terrorising the subjected tribes on an uneccesary scale.

armoured_amazon
03-02-2008, 06:20 PM
nope just hope ;)
coz im sick of all the hatred/war and im pretty sure god is too!!
judgement day will come "welcome to the new dark ages ..i hopen your livin right " Bad religion i love that song.

Heh, me too.

Mo0n5tar
11-02-2008, 08:33 PM
What i personally find significant is that both the Aztec and Maya civilisations were not the original or father culture of Mexico, that seed has been classified as the "Olmec" civilisation, defined by these distinctly African faces dated to around 1500BCE:
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2_files/BeardedOlmec1z3.jpg
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2.htm
The Olmec seeded the successive cultures of Mexico.

Intuition tells me the Aztecs were akin to the Hyksos, Canaanites etc, an invading tribe assuming the conquered peoples culture, the escoteric concepts of religion/spirituality being lost or going untranslated.

pleasuredome
11-02-2008, 08:47 PM
What i personally find significant is that both the Aztec and Maya civilisations were not the original or father culture of Mexico, that seed has been classified as the "Olmec" civilisation, defined by these distinctly African faces dated to around 1500BCE:
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2_files/BeardedOlmec1z3.jpg
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2.htm
The Olmec seeded the successive cultures of Mexico.

Intuition tells me the Aztecs were akin to the Hyksos, Canaanites etc, an invading tribe assuming the conquered peoples culture, the escoteric concepts of religion/spirituality being lost or going untranslated.

there is also artwork depicting caucasian looking men also. just like phoenician artifacts have been found in supposedly 'undiscovered' countries around the world from that era, it wouldn't suprise me if they were akin to the hyksos.

deathcultreject
18-02-2008, 10:54 AM
What i personally find significant is that both the Aztec and Maya civilisations were not the original or father culture of Mexico, that seed has been classified as the "Olmec" civilisation, defined by these distinctly African faces dated to around 1500BCE:
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2_files/BeardedOlmec1z3.jpg
http://www.resurrectisis.org/IsisAmC2.htm
The Olmec seeded the successive cultures of Mexico.


I'd say they're baby Eskimos in warrior's helemts.

The Mexican people do have warrior god myths where the baby fights as soon as he's born.

esse
18-02-2008, 11:42 AM
Anyone here seen the Ica Stones - they are amazing, stones found in Central America which depict ancient peoples walking around with dinosaurs and doing open heart surgery etc! Do a search on it - Those pics are interesting, they do look African - I traveled to Tibet recently and got to experience some amazing things - one thing I noticed was how much the people looked and sounded like Native Americans. I also have a friend who is Peruvian who told me that the Aztec cities were huge and built for a much larger race than exists in those parts now, how it is a mystery to the people there how these cities are for such tall people when there are no descendants of that height or geneology - as if the race disappeared. He said there is no trace of people like that now. Reminds me of the ascension of Shambhala - does anyone know anything more about this? Incidentally - drinking Margaritas tonight - good thread :)

ichi wa zen
23-02-2008, 12:53 PM
The Atlanteans passed their sunworshipping religions down unto the Americas. The Atlantean priesthood still rule our world today. Atlantis is the key here!

esse
24-02-2008, 11:42 PM
Have heard that Merlin and the Druids were originally all from Atlanteans, and it was their powers that built Stonehenge and Avebury - don't know much about the story though - Can you tell us more about it?
:)

deathcultreject
25-02-2008, 01:56 AM
Anyone here seen the Ica Stones - they are amazing, stones found in Central America which depict ancient peoples walking around with dinosaurs and doing open heart surgery etc! Do a search on it

The Ica stones are great.

Thank you for putting some curiosity back in my life.

esse
25-02-2008, 09:17 AM
Glad you dug it DCR, I found out about them a year or two ago and they really blew my mind - another thing around that time I came across (ever notice how info comes in waves?) was a lot of stuff about how there were numerous cases of objects which had been found in coal deposits (stratas that are pre-historic etc) - things like metal chains and objects, even a man or? made lens - so there seems to be a lot of stuff out there to show that beings with the capacity to make things were here before us and that we were here long before the history we're taught in schools would have us believe. I found the ICA stones fascinating, would love to go see them when I'm in that part of the world. What about those little hobbit people they discovered a couple years ago in Indonesia? And apparantly there are relics of giants about as well. Anyway, good to be having fun with cool research :)

deathcultreject
25-02-2008, 10:13 AM
Have heard that Merlin and the Druids were originally all from Atlanteans, and it was their powers that built Stonehenge and Avebury - don't know much about the story though - Can you tell us more about it?
:)

I'm officialy an Ovate in British Druidry, initiated by Kreb Dragon Rider, secretary to King Arthur PenDragon.

That means it's my duty to study religion, ritual, and magical lore.

I was a special case with my fascination and dilligence in magic, and good track record in environmental activism. blah blah blah.

The Order which I'm initated into was set up quickly for environmental initiatives.

Normaly, an initiate would be a Bard for a minimum of 7 years before becoming an Ovate, and then after another seven years, a good ovate might choose to take on the responsibilities of a Druid.

I'm unconventional on a lot of matters, but I DO respect the tradition and the lineage. To put it differently, if I respect someone as a good Druid, then I will go with their final say on an argument.

And I really don't have a clue about Atlantis.

My personal feeling is that humans develop magical culture so quickly, we shouldn't cheapen ourselves by projecting everything into the even more distant past.

Modern Druidry is an ancient tradition which traces back to the 1700s

Ancient Druidry survived the Romans because some of them were in Ireland, and pre Roman druids were predominantly illiterate, as far as I know. Everything was learned and passed on by memory.

The Irish Druids embraced Christianity, and kept many of their rights.

In one case, a Bard found fault with a King, so he wrote a poem of the King's failings.

The Bard claimed his right to make his poem heared in the King's court, and the King was so ashamed, he resigned.

This Druidic lineage in Ireland lasted untill the 12th century, and if you want to know more about that, then ask Steve Wilson.

I don't believe that the ancient Druids had much to do with Stonehenge, they were all over Europe, even though their college was in North Wales.

It was probably put there by muscle and enthusiasm, and maybe a bit of brains which humans have had always.

It was there thousands of years before any recorded existence of Druidry.

paganus
25-02-2008, 11:32 AM
I'm officialy an Ovate in British Druidry, initiated by Kreb Dragon Rider, secretary to King Arthur PenDragon.

That means it's my duty to study religion, ritual, and magical lore.

I was a special case with my fascination and dilligence in magic, and good track record in environmental activism. blah blah blah.

The Order which I'm initated into was set up quickly for environmental initiatives.

Normaly, an initiate would be a Bard for a minimum of 7 years before becoming an Ovate, and then after another seven years, a good ovate might choose to take on the responsibilities of a Druid.

I'm unconventional on a lot of matters, but I DO respect the tradition and the lineage. To put it differently, if I respect someone as a good Druid, then I will go with their final say on an argument.

And I really don't have a clue about Atlantis.

My personal feeling is that humans develop magical culture so quickly, we shouldn't cheapen ourselves by projecting everything into the even more distant past.

Modern Druidry is an ancient tradition which traces back to the 1700s

Ancient Druidry survived the Romans because some of them were in Ireland, and pre Roman druids were predominantly illiterate, as far as I know. Everything was learned and passed on by memory.

The Irish Druids embraced Christianity, and kept many of their rights.

In one case, a Bard found fault with a King, so he wrote a poem of the King's failings.

The Bard claimed his right to make his poem heared in the King's court, and the King was so ashamed, he resigned.

This Druidic lineage in Ireland lasted untill the 12th century, and if you want to know more about that, then ask Steve Wilson.

I don't believe that the ancient Druids had much to do with Stonehenge, they were all over Europe, even though their college was in North Wales.

It was probably put there by muscle and enthusiasm, and maybe a bit of brains which humans have had always.

It was there thousands of years before any recorded existence of Druidry.yeah,the Picts were here first,and not much is known of them other than the name is the root of the word 'Pixie'

ichi wa zen
25-02-2008, 06:58 PM
Source: The Atlantis Encyclopediae Book.

"An Aztec chronicle of earliest Mesoamerican beginnings, from when the first civilizers arrived on the eastern shores of Mexico after a destructive flood. “For fifty two years the waters lasted,” it reports. “Thus, they [an ancestral people] perished. They were swallowed by the waters, and their souls became fish. The heavens collapsed upon them, and in a single day they perished. All the mountains perished [under the sea].”

"Stories and legends about fair-faced culture-bearers appearing after a great natural disaster in the Atlantic Ocean are common throughout the Americas, from the Menomonie Indians of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, to the Aztecs’ Quetzalcoatl and the Mayas’ Kukulcan. These related founding heroes from over the sea apparently represent the impact native peoples experienced from the large-scale arrival of Atlantis refugees."

"The Aztecs claimed their ancestors came to America from Aztlan, “the Isle of Reeds.” The boy “girl” dancer at the center may signify the Sacred androgyne, a god-concept featured in an Atlantean mystery-cult."

"In Nahuatl, the language of the Aztecs, “Atlan” meant, literally, “In the Midst of the Sea.”

"Atlanteotl: An Aztec (Zapotec) water-god who “was condemned to stand forever on the edge of the world, bearing upon his shoulders the vault of the heavens”. This deity is practically a mirror image in both name and function of Atlas-Atlantis, powerful evidence supporting a profound Atlantean influence
in Mesoamerica."

"Atlixco: An Aztec outpost in south-central Mexico near a sacred volcano, Itztac-cihu-atl, associated with the earlier Mayas’ version of Atlas, Itzamna, “the Lord of Heaven,” and “the White Man.” Itztac-cihu-atl means “Great in the Water,” a clear reference to Mt. Atlas, the great peak on the island of Atlantis."

"Aztecs: A Nahuatl-speaking people who established their capital, Tenochtitlan, at the present location of Mexico City, in 1325 A.D. Over the next two centuries, they rose through military aggression to become the dominant power in pre-Conquest Middle America. Although their civilization was an inheritance from other Mesoamerican cultures that preceded them, the Aztecs preserved abundant and obvious references to Atlantis in their mythic traditions. Despite the millennia that separated them from that mother civilization, their royal ancestry, though not entirely unmixed with native blood, could still trace itself back to the arrival of Quetzalcoatl, the “Feathered Serpent,” an Atlantean culture-bearer."

"Aztlan: An island civilization in the Atlantic Ocean from which the ancestors of the Aztecs arrived in America following a destructive flood. A clear reference to Atlantis, Aztlan was remembered by the Aztecs as “the Field of Reeds,” “Land of Cranes” (denoting its island character), and “the White Island.”

"Hun yecil: “The Drowning of the Trees,” identically known to the later Aztecs as Hun-Esil; an episode from the Mayas’ cosmological book, the Popol Vuh. It tells how survivors of an Atlantic cataclysm built a temple near the banks of the Huehuhuetan River to thank the gods for their escape. The Hun yecil is associated with the final destruction of Atlantis."

armoured_amazon
25-02-2008, 08:52 PM
Anyone here seen the Ica Stones - they are amazing, stones found in Central America which depict ancient peoples walking around with dinosaurs and doing open heart surgery etc! Do a search on it - Those pics are interesting, they do look African - I traveled to Tibet recently and got to experience some amazing things - one thing I noticed was how much the people looked and sounded like Native Americans. I also have a friend who is Peruvian who told me that the Aztec cities were huge and built for a much larger race than exists in those parts now, how it is a mystery to the people there how these cities are for such tall people when there are no descendants of that height or geneology - as if the race disappeared. He said there is no trace of people like that now. Reminds me of the ascension of Shambhala - does anyone know anything more about this? Incidentally - drinking Margaritas tonight - good thread :)

Young earth....

I do like those stones, how big are they? I want one.

esse
27-02-2008, 09:23 AM
Hey DCR and Ichi - Thanks for the replies guys, I'll try and respond in order here:

I find the Druidic traditions pretty fascinating, read a great book about them about 7 years ago and it really won my respect - The pen is mightier than the sword, wish I could recall who wrote it and the title, hopelessly lost, but it spoke of how the Druids considered poetry (and this in song - Bardship) as the highest of arts - This spoke volumes to me, as I've often pondered on the strength of words, the rythm of speech - and that of song.
A musician friend of mine here in Australia once had a lengthy conversation with me involving his thoughts on language - how it was contrived and how we once must have sung like birds. I think there is a lot to be said for the power of notes, melody - the way these things can effect and inform us all - and then singing from the heart, the effect unmeasurable.
I love the Arthurian myths as well, and the tree magic --- Still, am less than a novice in these matters - I have wondered a lot about the possible negative side of these schools - another type of mystery school, I would imagine Druidism had it's dark and light side but then I really know nothing of this - Thanks for sharing yr experience, would love to hear more about it.

Ichi - Cool info - seems like you've done yr homework on this topic! I am curious about these ancients - Cultures like Atlantis and Shambhala - The Golden City of the Aztecs, all of these lost spiritual cultures - Ascended or destroyed? Seem to herald from the same time (though Shambhala is said to still exist - perhaps in the hollow earth or perhaps in the Himalayas or a higher vibration) The myths do seem to be based on something real, and they pervade many cultures - Sometimes I wonder if they were simply our own past civilizations during a time we still had our psychic powers, etc and spiritual knowledge intact. Perhaps we are not from here - and once lived in much more harmonious ways. Then there are stories of these cultures self destructing, of Atlantean war and arrogance - etc, so it is very hard to make head or tails of any of it. There is no doubt that all sorts of technology we now no longer have used to be known to us - The Pyramids, Stonehenge, Trilithon, so many things in S America... Do you think of the Atlanteans as another race - or our ancestors? - Ancestors to the Aztecs Mayans - what about the Druids - Have you heard the stories about Merlin being from Atlantis?

ichi wa zen
27-02-2008, 06:41 PM
Do you think of the Atlanteans as another race - or our ancestors? - Ancestors to the Aztecs Mayans - what about the Druids - Have you heard the stories about Merlin being from Atlantis?

The Atlanteans were our ancestors.

I suggest reading The Atlantis Encyclopediae, awesome book! I was very sceptic about Atlantis really existing or not. After reading that book there is no more doubt in my mind that Atlantis existed! Too much proof is presented in that book!

About The Druids, Merlin and Stonehenge:

Fathach: The poet-king of Atlantean immigrants in Ireland, the Fir Bolg. From his name derived the Irish term for “Druid,” Fathi. Fathach may be one of the few words we know with any degree of certainty is at least close to the spoken language heard in Atlantis.

Merlin: Famous as King Arthur’s magician, his Atlantean, or at any rate, Celtic (even pre-Celtic), origins are widely suspected. The legendary character was probably modeled on a real-life bard who went mad after the Battle of Ardderyd, in 574 A.D., and spent the rest of his life as a hermit in the woods, known for his eccentric genius. “Merlin” was likely derived from Mabon, the all-powerful Lord of the Animals known on the Continent as Cernunnos. He is depicted on Denmark’s secondcentury Gundestrup Cauldron as a horned stag holding a serpent in one hand and a golden torc (neck ornament) in the other. These symbols appear to signify mastery over the forces of death and degeneration: the horns and snake shed their skins to rejuvenate themselves, while the torc is associated with the eternal light of the sun. According to Anna Franklin, in her encyclopedic work on world myth, “Some say Merlin came out of Atlantis, and that he and the other survivors became the Druid priests of ancient Britain.” Indeed, he was said to have disassembled Stonehenge and rebuilt it on the Salisbury Plain. His earliest known name, Myrddin, Celtic for “from the sea,” certainly suggests an Atlantean pedigree.

Tara: A pre-Celtic archaeological site used for public ceremonies during megalithic times, located 20 miles northwest of Dublin, and the ancient political capital of Ireland. It was originally named Tea-mhair after Queen Tea, the wife of Eremon, the “Euaemon” listed by Plato as a king from Atlantis. Together with her sister, Tephi, Queen Tea made Tara the spiritual hub for the Atlantean Navel of the World mystery cult, and the sacred center of Ireland itself. A huge oval enclosure called the Rath na Riogh, the “Fortress of Kings,” sits atop the “Mound of the Hostages,” stressing its identity as an omphalos, the metaphysical cosmic egg of eternal rebirth. Beside this passage-grave still stands the Lia Fail, the “Stone of Destiny,” a later addition to Tara brought by the Tuatha da Danann, who arrived from the final destruction of Atlantis after 1200 B.C. Irish kings were crowned on or beside the monolith to demonstrate their Atlantean lineage, hence the name of another Tara earthwork known as Forradh, Gaelic for the “Seat of Kings.” The Atlantean character of their inauguration was demonstrated by the five druid priests involved in selecting a royal candidate, and the bull sacrifice they performed. In Plato’s description of ritual practices undertaken by kings at the Temple of Poseidon in Atlantis, a bull was sacrificed over a pillar not unlike the Lia Fail, and 5 was their sacred numeral. The Feis Teamhra was another ceremony in which the new king was united with Ireland by symbolically marrying the goddesses of Irish sovereignty, Etain and Madb, both impersonated by a white mare. In the Kritias, Plato reported that the first lady of Atlantis was Leukippe, “White Mare.” Tara’s “Mound of the Hostages” has been dated to circa 2100 B.C., coinciding with the second Atlantean catastrophe, in 2193 B.C., when refugees from Atlantis instituted their kingly rituals in Stone Age Ireland.

"Time frames are very controversial among Atlantologists, and this issue is addressed in the text that follows. Conservative investigators tend to regard Atlantean civilization as having come into its own sometime after 4000 B.C. By the end of that millennium, the Atlanteans were mining copper in the Upper Peninsula of North America; establishing a sacred calendar in Middle America; building megalithic structures such as New Grange in Ireland, Stonehenge in Britain, and Hal Tarxian at Malta; as well as founding the first dynasties in Egypt and Mesopotamia’s earliest city-states."

"Mestor: In Plato’s Kritias, an Atlantean monarch of which nothing is known. Only the meaning of his name, “The Counselor,” suggests Mestor’s kingdom may have been in Britain, where that foremost Atlantean monument, Stonehenge, gave counsel through its numerous celestial alignments. “Merlin” was perhaps a linguistic variant of “Mestor.”

Stonehenge: The world’s most famous megalithic site, located on England’s Salisbury Plain, evidences several important Atlantean features. For example, the sacred numerals, 5 and 6, incorporated in Atlantean architecture, according to Plato, recur throughout Stonehenge. The structure even resembles the concentric city-plan of Atlantis itself. Stonehenge was first laid out by 3000 B.C., began to reach the apex of its construction 1,500 years later, and was suddenly discontinued around 1200 B.C. Its development, use, and abandonment parallel Atlantean immigration at the close of the fourth millennium B.C., the zenith of Atlantis as the foremost Bronze Age civilization, and the final destruction in 1198 B.C.

Annwn: From the Brythonic an (“abyss”) and dwfn (“world”), known throughout Celtic myth as “Land Under Wave,” or the “Revolving Castle” (Caer Sidi); formerly a fortified island of great natural beauty with freshwater streams and a circularshaped city, at the center of which was a magic cauldron of immortality. These details clearly point to Atlantis, while Annwn’s cauldron is a pre-Christian reference to the Holy Grail—another legendary link with the sunken civilization.

Avalon: From the Old Welsh Ynys Avallach, or Avallenau, “The Isle of Apple Trees.” The lost Druidic Books of Pheryllt and Writings of Pridian, both described as “more ancient than the Flood,” celebrated the return of King Arthur from Ynys Avallach, “where all the rest of mankind had been overwhelmed.” Avalon is clearly the British version of Atlantis, with its grove of sacred apple trees tended by the Hesperides, Daughters of Atlas (that is, Atlantises). Avallenau was also the name of a Celtic goddess of orchards, reaffirming the Hesperides’ connection with Atlantis. Avalon was additionally referred to as Ynys-vitrius, the “Island of Glass Towers,” an isle of the dead, formerly the site of a great kingdom in the Atlantic Ocean. Avalon has since been associated with Glastonbury Tor—roughly, “Hill of the Glass Tower”—a high hill in Somerset, England. During the Bronze Age, the site was an island intersected by watercourses, resembling the concentric layout of the island of Atlantis. Underscoring this allusion is the spiral pathway that spreads outward from the Tor, because Plato described Atlantis as having been originally laid out in the pattern of a sacred spiral. In Geoffrey of Monmouth’s Vita Merlini, Avalon is called “the Fortunate Isle,” the same title Classical Greek and Roman writers assigned to Atlantic islands generally and to Atlantis specifically. The Welsh Ynys Avallach and English Ynys-vitrius were known along the Normandy coast as the Isle of Ys, which disappeared beneath the waves. Avalon is also a town in Burgundy named after the sunken island city, because some of its survivors reached Brittany."

Fomorach: Also known as the Fomorians, Fomhoraicc, F’omoraig Afaic, Fomoraice, or Fomoragh. Described in Irish folklore as a “sea people,” they were the earliest inhabitants of Ireland, although they established their chief headquarters in the Hebrides. Like the Atlanteans depicted by Plato, the Fomorach were Titans who arrived from over the ocean. Indeed, their name derives from fomor, synonymous for “giant” and “pirate.” According to O’Brien, Fomoraice means “mariners of Fo.” An Egyptian-like variant, Fomhoisre, writes Anna Franklin, means “Under Spirits.” In the Old Irish Annals of Clonmacnois, the Fomorach are mentioned as direct descendants of Noah. Their settlement in Ireland, according to the Annals, took place before the Great Flood. They “lived by pyracie and spoile of other nations, and were in those days very troublesome to the whole world”—a characterization coinciding with the aggressive Atlanteans portrayed by Plato’s Kritias. The Annals’ description of the Fomorach’s sea-power, with their “fleet of sixty ships and a strong army,” is likewise reminiscent of Atlantean imperialism. They represented an early migration to Ireland from geologically troubled Atlantis in the late fourth millennium B.C, about the time the megalithic center at New Grange, 30 miles north of Dublin, was built, circa 3200 B.C. Some 28 centuries later, the Fomorach were virtually exterminated by the last immigrant wave from Atlantis, the Tuatha da Danann, “Followers of the Goddess Danu,” at the Battle of Mag Tured. The few survivors were permitted to continue their functions as high priests and priestesses of Ireland’s megalithic sites, which their forefathers erected. This Fomorach remnant lived on through many generations to eventually become assimilated into the Celtic population, after 600 B.C. The most common Irish name is Atlantean. “Murphy” derives from O’Morchoe, or Fomoroche. The Murphy crest features the Tree of Life surmounted by a griffin or protective monster and bearing sacred apples, the chief elements in the Garden of the Hesperides.

esse
03-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Hey Thanks for that, fascinating info - I'll have to get that book :) I remember travelling in England a few years ago and going to visit Avebury and hearing that the lore was that perhaps Merlin had levitated the huge blocks over the sea from Ireland as they knew the origin of the (is it bluestone?) was from there - and that they were too heavy to have come over on rafts or boats - one of our world's mysteries - and an amazing feeling to walk around the stone circle there.
Another thing comes to mind about Atlantis - not a subject I can say I know much about, but a friend was convinced that some of the illustrations in the Wizard of Oz book series by Frank L Baum were depicting Atlantis. I remember her pointing out pictures of classrooms of women under a giant glass dome studying how to become enlightened or spiritual in one of the novels.

ichi wa zen
03-03-2008, 05:50 PM
Hey Thanks for that, fascinating info - I'll have to get that book :) I remember travelling in England a few years ago and going to visit Avebury and hearing that the lore was that perhaps Merlin had levitated the huge blocks over the sea from Ireland as they knew the origin of the (is it bluestone?)

Hey, thats what i believe too, dont know for sure, but the pyramids and stonehenge must have been build using magic! Must of been a cool sight, huge blocks floating in mid-air :D

esse
04-03-2008, 10:32 AM
True, Coral Castle - there's another cool story, very magical

deathcultreject
04-03-2008, 12:07 PM
yeah,the Picts were here first,and not much is known of them other than the name is the root of the word 'Pixie'

The picts are still here, they thrived in north Wales all along (but they've probably got mobile phones and cars these days etc. etc.). Some of their ancient artwork survives as well.