The Earth is growing

[teslafire]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[lottie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI

wow- fantastic post teslafire! I thought of this theory one night about 4mths ago whislt laying in bed trying to get to sleep- suddenly i thought- what if the world is expanding like we are and our consciousness- if the world is just a manifestation of our consciousness then surely it stands to reason that the world is expanding too- but how to prove it- will we be here long enough to acknowledge the measurement, but then again if its expanding at an increasing rate then prehaps its doing so now at a rate we might be able to measure?

[revolutionary_jam]

I love that vid, apparently the theory isn't proven and there are still problems with it but the evidence sure is pretty convincing

[lookfar]

I agree rev_jam,, it's a great vid. I saw it a while ago & it was quite convincing to me too.

[sunyatta60]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI

Nice Video and I have a book on my shelf that puts forward the exact same theory the Earth is expanding but so is everything else in the Universe and of course the Universe itself.

Here is the Website from which I bought the book:

http://www.thefinaltheory.com/homepage.html

[freedomnonfighter]

Oh man.. I've always entertained this idea.. I remember being in middle school and friends and I were trying to put the Earth together like a puzzle.. cuz even at first glance, to me, they look like they were joined before.

[hagbard_celine]

There was an article in Nexus about this. It's a very convincing theory.

[kblood]

I thought this was common knowledge... it still isnt proven that the continents were once one landmass? I thought it had been proven that planets are growning. As long as a planet is not too close to a sun, and therefore getting parts of it burned, then gravity will make the planet grow in size. Space dust and so on makes Earth grow in size, and I believe that mass is constantly created everywhere just about.

I wonder what the belief is otherwise? That planets just pop out of nothing and then just float through space untill they end up in a solar system?

[serpentoffire]

http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/kkamaras/fat_people.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

I thought this was common knowledge... it still isnt proven that the continents were once one landmass? I thought it had been proven that planets are growning. As long as a planet is not too close to a sun, and therefore getting parts of it burned, then gravity will make the planet grow in size. Space dust and so on makes Earth grow in size, and I believe that mass is constantly created everywhere just about.

I wonder what the belief is otherwise? That planets just pop out of nothing and then just float through space untill they end up in a solar system?

The Earth's continents might well have been one big landmass, Pangea, but this was on a far smaller Earth; one where that single landmass covered nearly all the planet. Then as the Earth expanded they split and the ocean filled the gap. How does this process happen? Well the article doesn't explain!

A good demonstration is to get a slightly inflated balloon and paint it with plaster of Paris; then when the plaster's dry blow the balloon right up and watch the plaster crack and come apart, with balloon skin in between symbolizing the oceans.

[kblood]

The Earth's continents might well have been one big landmass, Pangea, but this was on a far smaller Earth; one where that single landmass covered nearly all the planet. Then as the Earth expanded they split and the ocean filled the gap. How does this process happen? Well the article doesn't explain!

A good demonstration is to get a slightly inflated balloon and paint it with plaster of Paris; then when the plaster's dry blow the balloon right up and watch the plaster crack and come apart, with balloon skin in between symbolizing the oceans.

Yea :) I am wondering wether water then first came later? I do not see any logic in any planet having a set size... Who thinks it is more logical for a planet to become smaller then? I had a friend who said that our planet was becomming smaller each year, due to the sun burning a part of it away. I did not believe him though, because back then I already had an idea about the Earth would have to be growing.

I remember reading an article that even supports it. It seemed to me that it was proven that the Earth gets more and more mass each year, from space dust, and whatever else might build to the Earths size. On top of that, I do not believe we truly know what is happening inside our planet. Maybe it is hollow earth theory that is the answer, or maybe the core is expanding from the inside more than on the inside? Would make more sense since it does seem to grow like an inflating balloon.

[revolutionary_jam]

from "The Hidden Messages In Water" by Masaru Emoto:

"Why do you think there is so much water on the earth? Most explanations say that when the earth was formed some 4.6 billion years ago, water turned to stream, evaporated, and formed rain that fell on the earth, resulting in the creation of the oceans.

But it all started with the birth of the sun.Lumps of gas came together and started rotating, forming a red ball. The remaining dust came together and formed the earth and the other planets in the solar system. At this time, the earth was still a ball of magma that contained hydrogen. As the magma cooled, the hydrogen evaporated into the newly formed atmosphere.
But not all scholars agree with this theory, and some offer radically different alternatives. One such scholar is Louis Frank of the University of Iowa, who has proposed that water arrived on this planet in the form of lumps of ice from outer space.
Professor Frank began his invetigation when he became puzzled by the fact that satellite photographs showed black spots; he reached the conclusion that these black spots were small comets that were falling to earth.
These mini-comets are actually balls of water and ice weighing a hundred tons or more, and falling into the earth's atmosphere at a rate of about twent per minute (or ten million per year). The theory is that these balls of ice bombarded the earth forty billion years ago, creating the seas and oceans, and this same phenomenon continues today.
As the earth's gravity pulls these ice comets into the atmosphere, the heat of the sun evaporates them and turns them into gas. As they fall fifty-five kilometers from outer space, the gas particles mix with the air in the atmosphere ad are blown about, falling to the earth as rain or snow.
A few years ago, an announcement by NASA and the University of Hawaii that Dr. Frank's theory does have credability but there are still many scientists who refuse to accept this new way of looking at the world.
If this new approach were to gain widespread credibilit, it would require many of the books in the world's libraries to be rewritten. It would have an impact on almost all of the scientific theories related to life on this planet, such as the origin of man and Darwin's theory of evolution."

[368jrn]

http://expanding-earth.org/


external ACCRETION and internal CORE EXPANSION

makes sense to me, the powers that be know all this, we are spoon fed lies at school to keep us dumb. Roll on 2012!:)

[revolutionary_jam]

cool article!

[hagbard_celine]

Yea :) I am wondering wether water then first came later? I do not see any logic in any planet having a set size... Who thinks it is more logical for a planet to become smaller then? I had a friend who said that our planet was becomming smaller each year, due to the sun burning a part of it away. I did not believe him though, because back then I already had an idea about the Earth would have to be growing.

I remember reading an article that even supports it. It seemed to me that it was proven that the Earth gets more and more mass each year, from space dust, and whatever else might build to the Earths size. On top of that, I do not believe we truly know what is happening inside our planet. Maybe it is hollow earth theory that is the answer, or maybe the core is expanding from the inside more than on the inside? Would make more sense since it does seem to grow like an inflating balloon.


But the size increase is not just in volume, but mass. Gravity must be getting stronger too if the model is correct. Perhaps this explains why the biggest dinosaurs had legs apparently too small to support them. I've seen the theory that they spent most of their time wading in deep water, but if gravity was weaker back then maybe that's an alternative explanation.

Accumulating space dust doesn't account for the speed of increased mass. Also space dust adds mass to the Earth from the surface down, not from the inside out. If the amount of space dust neccesary to cause the Earth to expand at the speed the model suggests was really falling on the Earth them we'd all be buried in a shower of the stuff! Some esoteric process must be involved that breaches all known principles of science. it's as if a giant was blowing molten rock into the Earth's core (or the shell if you accept the hollow Earth Model) from another dimension.

[sunyatta60]

[QUOTE=kblood;131620]Yea :) I am wondering wether water then first came later?

Well interestingly some claim that Venus was a Comet that hit Tiamut a watery planet in our solar system and the collision destroyed that planet. What if then large amounts of water in the form of Ice hit the Earth resulting in a world wide flood.

[kblood]

But the size increase is not just in volume, but mass. Gravity must be getting stronger too if the model is correct. Perhaps this explains why the biggest dinosaurs had legs apparently too small to support them. I've seen the theory that they spent most of their time wading in deep water, but if gravity was weaker back then maybe that's an alternative explanation.

Accumulating space dust doesn't account for the speed of increased mass. Also space dust adds mass to the Earth from the surface down, not from the inside out. If the amount of space dust neccesary to cause the Earth to expand at the speed the model suggests was really falling on the Earth them we'd all be buried in a shower of the stuff! Some esoteric process must be involved that breaches all known principles of science. it's as if a giant was blowing molten rock into the Earth's core (or the shell if you accept the hollow Earth Model) from another dimension.

Yes, that is why I wrote that Earth must have been growing like an inflating baloon. If hollow earth theory is correct, then it would seem more logical that Earth would expand like this, but if our planet does have a core, and it is expanding... then I guess there is a process going on inside our planet that creates more and more matter or mass for our planet.

I guess another theory for why our planet is growing like this, could be that the core of our planet is producing gas, and that the gaspockets around the core of our planet is making it expand in all directions, and sometimes causing volcano eruptions or earthquakes, maybe even mountains to erupt. Gas just doesnt seem like enough to make our planet expand like it seems to be.

As for what sunyatta60 said about our water might have come from outer space: Could be. Before we got water on this planet, we probably did not have much atmosphere to burn the meteor, astroid or whatever might have brought so much ice to this planet. It seems to have come here more naturally though, I am guessing it is a somehwat natural stage of a planets evolution that the element of water somehow comes into being. I do think there are more processes going on than we have found out so far, and the fact that Earth is probably expanding from its core instead of just from space or star dust, then there seem to be alot of elements that comes here that might come from some other dimension. Maybe there are "natural" interdimensional processes that are going on, that we just havent found ways to discover yet, or explain anyway.

[hagbard_celine]

Yes, that is why I wrote that Earth must have been growing like an inflating baloon. If hollow earth theory is correct, then it would seem more logical that Earth would expand like this, but if our planet does have a core, and it is expanding... then I guess there is a process going on inside our planet that creates more and more matter or mass for our planet.

I guess another theory for why our planet is growing like this, could be that the core of our planet is producing gas, and that the gaspockets around the core of our planet is making it expand in all directions, and sometimes causing volcano eruptions or earthquakes, maybe even mountains to erupt. Gas just doesnt seem like enough to make our planet expand like it seems to be.

As for what sunyatta60 said about our water might have come from outer space: Could be. Before we got water on this planet, we probably did not have much atmosphere to burn the meteor, astroid or whatever might have brought so much ice to this planet. It seems to have come here more naturally though, I am guessing it is a somehwat natural stage of a planets evolution that the element of water somehow comes into being. I do think there are more processes going on than we have found out so far, and the fact that Earth is probably expanding from its core instead of just from space or star dust, then there seem to be alot of elements that comes here that might come from some other dimension. Maybe there are "natural" interdimensional processes that are going on, that we just havent found ways to discover yet, or explain anyway.

The gas idea is interesting, but would gas be powerful enough? Wouldn't it get compressed by the pressure at the Earth's core (or shell interior)?

[kblood]

The gas idea is interesting, but would gas be powerful enough? Wouldn't it get compressed by the pressure at the Earth's core (or shell interior)?

Yup, probably. I just read something very interesting though, that might explain water, even though it leaves more questions. I read it in a magazine about infinite energy, and this issue was about water energy. It seems that it has beeen proven that we do not just have underground waterstreams, but water is created inside earth. It must be something about the hot core and its gasses that becomes water in some way. One proof, if it can be considered a proof is that water have been found in many places that apparantly sees the surface for the first time, and this water is much cleaner than our regular water sources. I think the article told about it happening in Manhatten in the early 20. century. They did not use this fresh water for drinking or anything else, because it was not known where it came from. This is apparantly what happens to most natural water sources, they are not used since they are not trusted.

So it seems natural that the one landmass that was in the beginning have been split by the water that have been forming in the Earths core for what must have been millions of years. I do not know any links to proof of water that springs from the Earth, but I guess there must be some.

[hagbard_celine]

Yup, probably. I just read something very interesting though, that might explain water, even though it leaves more questions. I read it in a magazine about infinite energy, and this issue was about water energy. It seems that it has beeen proven that we do not just have underground waterstreams, but water is created inside earth. It must be something about the hot core and its gasses that becomes water in some way. One proof, if it can be considered a proof is that water have been found in many places that apparantly sees the surface for the first time, and this water is much cleaner than our regular water sources. I think the article told about it happening in Manhatten in the early 20. century. They did not use this fresh water for drinking or anything else, because it was not known where it came from. This is apparantly what happens to most natural water sources, they are not used since they are not trusted.

So it seems natural that the one landmass that was in the beginning have been split by the water that have been forming in the Earths core for what must have been millions of years. I do not know any links to proof of water that springs from the Earth, but I guess there must be some.

That's amazing because I read a fantastic book by David's mate Brian Desborough called "Blueprint for a Better World" where he describes how water can be found by drilling into solid rock. He claims that the amount of water chemically locked into the Earth's rock is 100 times greater than all that in liquid form, even including the oceans!

[sunyatta60]

THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS

Feb 25, 2008
Impending Enceladus Encounter
Cassini is about to make one of the closest approaches by a space vehicle to any moon in the Solar System. What are the expectations?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080225enceladusencounter.htm

Feb 26, 2007
The Expanding Earth Debate - Part Three
New conjectures about Earth expansion and crustal deformation of Jupiter's moon Europa have been offered in favor of the "expanding Earth" theory. But what has actually happened to Europa?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080226expandingearth3.htm

Feb 27, 2007
Myth as Metaphor
The critical study of myth traces back at least to Classical Antiquity, when Greek and Roman philosophers tried to fathom the "meaning" of their mythical heritage.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080227metaphor.htm

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More from Mercury
The latest images by the MESSENGER spacecraft indicate how similar Mercury is to other bodies in the solar system that have been scarred by electric arcs.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080229moremercury.htm

[weston white]

This theory makes so much more sense and when you really think about it seems very possible.

I also though this could explain who dinosaurs were able to survive (they would have been in a lower pressure of gravity until it got to the point where they could no long support themselves properly, which could indicate that Earth was growing to fast for them to adapt themselves) and why our oxygen mix is dropping, (because it is being spread over a larger area).

Then there is the whole Earth is only 6,000 years old theory and that dinosaurs and humans actually lived together.

[krakhead]

Not come across this idea before? Has anyone else?

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[krakhead]

I'll take that as a no then! :)

[garth]

Hey krakhead, this has appeared a couple of times before on here, check out this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9907&highlight=expanding+earth
for more info. IMO the earth is expanding, effecting every aspect of life on this rock.

[krakhead]

Hey krakhead, this has appeared a couple of times before on here, check out this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9907&highlight=expanding+earth
for more info. IMO the earth is expanding, effecting every aspect of life on this rock.

DOH! Did a quick search before I posted - must have missed it!

*hangs head in shame*

[demiurge]

the earth is a living expanding beign like all of us.

[catfood]

http://www2.geosci.usyd.edu.au/research/marinegeophysics/Resprojects/Agegrid/Images/globe_arctic.gif
http://www2.geosci.usyd.edu.au/research/marinegeophysics/Resprojects/Agegrid/digit_isochrons.html
;)

[liltroofer]

Yay! I'm glad somebody brought up this theory!!

I believe the age of the dinosaurs featured a much smaller Earth in this timeline, accounting for the feeble pump and diaphragm systems of the dinos, (lower gravity) as well as the larger flying creatures.

I would love it if we could admit that the Earth's mass has not always been six sextillion tons, and in fact was once half of that!!

We are constantly collecting debris from outer space, and biological life also transforms light energies into dense matter.

We will probably get a statistic one day saying that each hour adds another several pounds to the bulk of the planet.

[lookfar]

Hi krakhead

I've merged your thread into this one so that the posts don't get lost:)

[revolutionary_jam]

i study partly astronomy now and i sent the vid to one of my lecturers, looking forward to his analysis

[disorder2k8]

great video OP, thanks

[kreesurgeon]

This is a great series of videos, it's worth watching all of them.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_f6hcGJbjL0

[hagbard_celine]

This is a great series of videos, it's worth watching all of them.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_f6hcGJbjL0


Interesting. Thanks.:cool:

This is the same guy from the earlier vid I think.

[tabea_blumenschein]

Gravity is an "inverse square" law.

Double the size of the Earth, and the mass has to increase fourfold for gravity to remain constant. You need to find three Earth-masses somewhere.

Same thing with the Sun or any other planet in the Solar System.

Any ideas where all that supposed mass is going to come from?

[revolutionary_jam]

Any ideas where all that supposed mass is going to come from?

It's meant to have been acrued from space dust, commets, etc.

[abstrakt]

I was talking to my gf (japanese) about this and apparently this is what they are taught at school.

[haukipesukone]

I was talking to my gf (japanese) about this and apparently this is what they are taught at school.

Hee? What are you referring to? The Earth growing bit? I have to ask the Japanese here if they've heard about it.


I saw the Earth Growing video some time ago (before I joined this forum). It was very interesting. The title is a bit suspicious and overtly tabloidish: "Conspiracy of Science".

[kreesurgeon]

Gravity is an "inverse square" law.

Double the size of the Earth, and the mass has to increase fourfold for gravity to remain constant. You need to find three Earth-masses somewhere.

Same thing with the Sun or any other planet in the Solar System.

Any ideas where all that supposed mass is going to come from?

There's always the possibility that our understanding of gravity is incorrect.

[hagbard_celine]

I'm just watching the Nexus vid now. Thanks:)

[infinite tea]

A new world 9% larger than the present one is being created for us, we will be tested to remove ourselves from our body during the transition - someone told me this 3 years ago, piecing together the info I get this:,

2012 - a mass DMT event , hold onto the centre of your being - this is just a dream - to know "I am" and nothing more is the key, letting go of who you believe yourself to be allows who YOU really are to shine :-)

[hagbard_celine]

A new world 9% larger than the present one is being created for us, we will be tested to remove ourselves from our body during the transition - someone told me this 3 years ago, piecing together the info I get this:,

2012 - a mass DMT event , hold onto the centre of your being - this is just a dream - to know "I am" and nothing more is the key, letting go of who you believe yourself to be allows who YOU really are to shine :-)


That's uncanny!:eek: I've recently had premonitions about the world expanding after some great consciousness shift, like 2012 etc!:confused::cool:

[tabea_blumenschein]

There's always the possibility that our understanding of gravity is incorrect.

That little formula Newton worked out, F = GmM/r^2, has been battle-tested for several hundred years now. I think we can trust it.

[pali_gap]

Gravity is an "inverse square" law.

Double the size of the Earth, and the mass has to increase fourfold for gravity to remain constant. You need to find three Earth-masses somewhere.

Same thing with the Sun or any other planet in the Solar System.

Any ideas where all that supposed mass is going to come from?

who say that gravity must remain constant? maybe the gravity was stronger in the past?

[kreesurgeon]

That little formula Newton worked out, F = GmM/r^2, has been battle-tested for several hundred years now. I think we can trust it.

actually, Newton was modified by Einstein, who was modified by Haramein. I, therefor, ain't trustin' no one.

[kblood]

Gravity is an "inverse square" law.

Double the size of the Earth, and the mass has to increase fourfold for gravity to remain constant. You need to find three Earth-masses somewhere.

Same thing with the Sun or any other planet in the Solar System.

Any ideas where all that supposed mass is going to come from?

Was already answered with space dust, comets etc.

But I would like to add a few more sources. All matter came from somewhere, and it seems likely to me that the whole Universe must be expanding if it is to be infinite, so its possible that everything expands on its own. The vortex that is probably having alot to do with our planets growth, rotation and gravity, is likely to be the key to it. It seems to be one of the major driving forces behind everything in the Universe. Solar systems, planets, galaxies and probably the universe on some larger scale follows the patterns of a vortex. Our planet as well, and black holes probably does too.

Also there is all the light particles that seems to be beamed around everywhere and all the sunlight. Matter is dense energy, and light is energy. Seems the sun and all the other stars are likely adding to our planets growth as well.

[tabea_blumenschein]

who say that gravity must remain constant? maybe the gravity was stronger in the past?

A gravitational "constant" that changes over time would alter the orbits of moons and planets in the solar system, possibly with catastrophic results.

actually, Newton was modified by Einstein, who was modified by Haramein. I, therefor, ain't trustin' no one.

It isn't accurate to say that Newton was "modified" by Einstein. Newton's laws may be considered a "special case" of Einstein's theory of relativity. In most frames of reference, Newton and Einstein agree. Einstein takes over in frames of reference involving high velocity or strong gravitational fields, where Newtonian mechanics no longer holds true.

No comment on Nassim Haramein.

[ashur]

Nexus is another fake movement not something pure. It's just materialism taking advantage of truth.

[kblood]

A gravitational "constant" that changes over time would alter the orbits of moons and planets in the solar system, possibly with catastrophic results.



It isn't accurate to say that Newton was "modified" by Einstein. Newton's laws may be considered a "special case" of Einstein's theory of relativity. In most frames of reference, Newton and Einstein agree. Einstein takes over in frames of reference involving high velocity or strong gravitational fields, where Newtonian mechanics no longer holds true.

No comment on Nassim Haramein.

But if Earths gravitation has become stronger over the millenia, then it would explain why the dinosaurs where so big back in their time, and why the common size today is much smaller.

If planets doesnt grow then how is it explained that planets come into being in the first place? How come it seems to be thought that a planets size is constant? It never seemed logical to me.

[tabea_blumenschein]

But if Earths gravitation has become stronger over the millenia, then it would explain why the dinosaurs where so big back in their time, and why the common size today is much smaller.

Actually, we would expect the opposite - animals in a stronger gravitational field would likely be smaller than they are now. If you scale an animal up to twice it's former size, the animal's strength increases by a factor of four, but the animal's weight increases by a factor of eight. The animal needs to use a larger percentage of it's available strength just to move it's own weight around.

The largest dinosaurs, such as Brachiosaurs, were about as big as it was practical for them to be, considering Earth's current gravitational field strength. Such large sizes would have been impractical if the Earth had stronger gravity then than it does now.

Also, it's a mistake to assume that all dinosaurs were the size of Brachiosaurs or T-Rexes. Most of them were no larger than various animals that are alive on earth right now. Of course, african elephants are large enough to give even some of the bigger dinosaurs a run for their money, sizewise.

There's a nice little discussion about scaling as it relates to humans and other animals on the Incredibly Stupid Movie Physics (http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html) page. Just scroll down to the section entitled "scaling problems".

If planets doesnt grow then how is it explained that planets come into being in the first place? How come it seems to be thought that a planets size is constant? It never seemed logical to me.

The Solar System was formed from a molecular cloud. In the early stages, bits of matter that came into contact with one another could "clump" together. After a very long time, some of these "clumps" grew large enough to become Planetesimal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, or bodies with a gravitational field strong enough to pull matter to themselves. These planetesimals continued to accrete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_(astrophysics)) matter until they became protoplanets, and finally, planets.

The reason the Earth or other planets aren't growing now is simple: there's hardly any matter left in the Solar System for them to accrete! Other than negligible amounts of interplanetary dust (or the occasional meteor or comet strike), the Earth isn't adding any mass at all.

[kblood]

Actually, we would expect the opposite - animals in a stronger gravitational field would likely be smaller than they are now. If you scale an animal up to twice it's former size, the animal's strength increases by a factor of four, but the animal's weight increases by a factor of eight. The animal needs to use a larger percentage of it's available strength just to move it's own weight around.

The largest dinosaurs, such as Brachiosaurs, were about as big as it was practical for them to be, considering Earth's current gravitational field strength. Such large sizes would have been impractical if the Earth had stronger gravity then than it does now.

Also, it's a mistake to assume that all dinosaurs were the size of Brachiosaurs or T-Rexes. Most of them were no larger than various animals that are alive on earth right now. Of course, african elephants are large enough to give even some of the bigger dinosaurs a run for their money, sizewise.

There's a nice little discussion about scaling as it relates to humans and other animals on the Incredibly Stupid Movie Physics (http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html) page. Just scroll down to the section entitled "scaling problems".

I agree and it only proves my point since the gravity would be weaker and not stronger in the age of the dinosaurs...

Yes, a few of them were what is considered normal size today, but they probably would have been even smaller if they had the stronger gravity which we have today. Any proof of the small four legged lizards we have today existed back then?

The Solar System was formed from a molecular cloud. In the early stages, bits of matter that came into contact with one another could "clump" together. After a very long time, some of these "clumps" grew large enough to become planetesimals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetesimal), or bodies with a gravitational field strong enough to pull matter to themselves. These planetesimals continued to accrete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_(astrophysics)) matter until they became protoplanets, and finally, planets.

The reason the Earth or other planets aren't growing now is simple: there's hardly any matter left in the Solar System for them to accrete! Other than negligible amounts of interplanetary dust (or the occasional meteor or comet strike), the Earth isn't adding any mass at all.

Interesting and sounds reasonable. So a planets growth seems to decrease over time, much like the growth of living beings on our planet. I guess our planet has reached adult state by now compared to our lifespan.

[tabea_blumenschein]

I agree and it only proves my point since the gravity would be weaker and not stronger in the age of the dinosaurs...

Yeah, that was a mistake on my part. I must have still been thinking of pali gap's question (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=608416&postcount=44) about whether gravity could have been stronger in the past.

[physics nerd]After considering Newton's gravity equation, as well as the formula which states that mass equals density times volume, I can say that a planet which adds mass will in fact increase the strength of gravity at its surface, provided the added mass has a similar average density to the planet itself. Basically, I worked that the difference in radius of the planet will be the cube root of the difference in mass. For gravity to remain constant, the difference in radius would have to be the square root of the difference in mass. Long story short, adding mass increases gravity.[/physics nerd]

But I still believe that the Earth has maintained it's current size since the Solar System first formed. All the available raw material was either accreted by the Sun or the forming protoplanets, or it was kicked out of the Solar System by gravitational football.

[kblood]

Yeah, that was a mistake on my part. I must have still been thinking of pali gap's question (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=608416&postcount=44) about whether gravity could have been stronger in the past.

[physics nerd]After considering Newton's gravity equation, as well as the formula which states that mass equals density times volume, I can say that a planet which adds mass will in fact increase the strength of gravity at its surface, provided the added mass has a similar average density to the planet itself. Basically, I worked that the difference in radius of the planet will be the cube root of the difference in mass. For gravity to remain constant, the difference in radius would have to be the square root of the difference in mass. Long story short, adding mass increases gravity.[/physics nerd]

But I still believe that the Earth has maintained it's current size since the Solar System first formed. All the available raw material was either accreted by the Sun or the forming protoplanets, or it was kicked out of the Solar System by gravitational football.

But doesnt our oil reserves actually come from dead animals? And how is the past measured? If I am not mistaken they go deep into the ground, and the lower you go the further back in time the dirt comes from, The dirt or rocks then tell the story of our plants past, Even the oil and other natural ressources I guess.

Bottom line, it seems to me that it would make alot more sense if Earth is growing than if it didnt. Too much seems to must have just magically appeared otherwise, I also believe that it was all one continent and then water came and parted it into to continents we know today. Seens water might have come from some process that happened within our planet, and might still be happening.

[pali_gap]

So why exactly were dinos that big in size? Not all but some were. Can today gravity help produce such big animals? I said maybe gravity was smaller in past but what if it was other way around? :p Maybe earth expanded and over time collected debris, dust etc from space and thus gain more weight in outer crust which resulted in stronger gravity?

[kblood]

So why exactly were dinos that big in size? Not all but some were. Can today gravity help produce such big animals? I said maybe gravity was smaller in past but what if it was other way around? :p Maybe earth expanded and over time collected debris, dust etc from space and thus gain more weight in outer crust which resulted in stronger gravity?

You must mean the other way around. When Earth gains more mass, the gravity becomes stronger. My theory, or the theory that I have heard about and agree with since I have always believed Earth to be growing ever since I saw a world map, is that dinosaurs got to be so big because they had less gravity holding them down, and gravity was weaker back then, because Earth was smaller.

There are lots of clues that all points towards Earth growing. Why else is history of the past found deep in the ground? The year of a certain depth counted by the layers they dig through. If our planet wasnt growing, then either land mass is moving around alot and there still seems to have to be more of it, or we are having new layers added to our planets surface over time.

[pali_gap]

So why exactly were dinos that big in size? Not all but some were. Can today gravity help produce such big animals? I said maybe gravity was smaller in past but what if it was other way around? :p Maybe earth expanded and over time collected debris, dust etc from space and thus gain more weight in outer crust which resulted in stronger gravity?

EDIT yeah I dont have a clue what Im talking about:o

[signs]

I know there have been theories on this but what would really happen if the earth suddenly stopped spinning , anyone know, would we be pulled straight into the sun.:eek::confused:

[kblood]

I know there have been theories on this but what would really happen if the earth suddenly stopped spinning , anyone know, would we be pulled straight into the sun.:eek::confused:

Hard to say. I am guessing the spinning is part of the vortex flow within the planet, which is probably caused partly by the planets rotation around the sun. It is kind of wierd though, the moon is always facing Earth with the same side. Therefore the dark side of the moon is always facing away from Earth. The sun of course shines on the dark side of the moon, we just dont see it as far as I know. Havent heard of anything that have taken photos of the other side of it. The wierd thing is, why isnt Earth always facing the Sun with the same side then? Is it because of the moon? Seems a bit unlikely that such a comparably small ball of moon would make our planet spin. Are the other planets even spinning?

How much influence does the spinning have on Earths gravity? If Earth stopped spinning, I guess it would just be like the moon, still orbiting around the Sun. But it would change our eco system alot.

[oiram]

The Earth's continents might well have been one big landmass, Pangea, but this was on a far smaller Earth; one where that single landmass covered nearly all the planet. Then as the Earth expanded they split and the ocean filled the gap. How does this process happen? Well the article doesn't explain!

A good demonstration is to get a slightly inflated balloon and paint it with plaster of Paris; then when the plaster's dry blow the balloon right up and watch the plaster crack and come apart, with balloon skin in between symbolizing the oceans.OK so lets say the expansion theory is correct!
So can I presume that this expansion is a gradual process over 70 million years & made the earth grow double in size and that the water volume also has to increase and gets produced gradually to double the volume to cover the area?
If this would not be the case we would need to end up with more and more land mass in lower regions right? But we don't; so is the water death decreasing to compensate for the area increase?
So to create water we need two parts of Hydrogen one part of Oxygen & heat/ combustion. So I presume the process is ongoing right now & the water volume increases.

So where is the Hydrogen & Oxygen stored inside the earth & if so in what form Gas or liquid form?

Now don't ask me for the result but what's happen:
Lets say I have liquid Hydrogen & liquid Oxygen then I create water by combustion how is the mass/ volume relationship will it be constant or is there a difference between volume & mass by changing the elements into a different medium?

So did the atmosphere grow also?
Or is the atmosphere constant and increased in pressure?
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So with all this Water increase there should be a open tap somewhere to keep filling the Bathtub?
What would happen to the CO2 amount having more & more exposed Water area with a relative same exposed land area would not the CO2 decrease over time?

Somebody must be lying if the earth has grown double in size over the last 70 million years?
There is not one scientist which can be trusted they all working for the Government & if they don't
they don't have the facility's to do any qualified job! 1 + 1 = 2. Most if not all will be bullshit what they feed the public by default no matter which way we look at it!
The CO2 lowers constantly I would say looking at the chart!

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[kblood]

OK so lets say the expansion theory is correct!
So can I presume that this expansion is a gradual process over 70 million years & made the earth grow double in size and that the water volume also has to increase and gets produced gradually to double the volume to cover the area?
If this would not be the case we would need to end up with more and more land mass in lower regions right? But we don't; so is the water death decreasing to compensate for the area increase?
So to create water we need two parts of Hydrogen one part of Oxygen & heat/ combustion. So I presume the process is ongoing right now & the water volume increases.

So where is the Hydrogen & Oxygen stored inside the earth & if so in what form Gas or liquid form?

My theory is that water comes from within our planet. There are lots of magma flowing around, even if Earth is hollow. The magma makes lots of heat and gas I recon which probably is where most our water comes from. Looking at how Earth probably evolved, it seems most likely that water came and split the continents as Earth grew in size, making more and more atmosphere. This process probably still continues today, but most likely at a much slower rate.

As I already mentioned before, I believe that in our planets lifespan compared to other living beings, it is probably adult by now. Around 30-50 years compared to a human, but that is of course quite alot of years in galactic scale.

There are lots of cycles around our planet that can be compared to ours. The high and low tides that our moon creates, water being the blood of our planet, and earth/dirt being its flesh. Trees and plants being its skin and bacteria. Us and animals being its brain / neurons, and emotion, although the weather is probably more comparable to the physical manifestation of our planets emotions.

Seems to me that we probably adapted to the Earhs cycles, not the other way around. I was told in detail how well it compares but it was maybe 15 years ago, so I cant remember it that well. I think the tides compares to our pulse. Or maybe it was day and night.

So yes, I believe our atmosphere grows with our planet. The atmosphere does come from the oceans, plant life, our life and animal life. So as it all becomes more and more, then so does the atmosphere. If water mass and land mass increase at the same rate now, or its just isnt increases much at all anymore, then the land mass and water mass would probably stay the same for maybe a few centuries still. Even those millions of years ago when Earth was smaller, it probably still took millenia for noticable change to occur in the planets size.

[oiram]

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