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rodin
06-01-2010, 11:15 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

“A holy war will now begin on America and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown. . . . “Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for Divine World Government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire.

All religion will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses and they will all be under the invisible All-seeing Eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

In a book title same as thread written by Jonathan Williams

Guess when it was written?

1789

I want to hunt this book down. Needless to say it is out of print

beldazar
07-01-2010, 02:22 AM
just bumping to watch tomorrow :)

1977
27-03-2010, 01:17 AM
I've been doing some searches, and is there ANY evidence that this book has EVER existed? All that I can find in Google Books is a single reference from the Christian Crusade for Truth in 1986 (http://books.google.com/books?q=%22jonathan+williams%22+%22legions+of+sata n%22&btnG=Search+Books). Surely SOMEONE must've seen a copy of the book—where did this quote originate?

The goyim certainly are easily fooled if they never check their sources.

inverselogic
27-03-2010, 03:35 AM
I've been doing some searches, and is there ANY evidence that this book has EVER existed? All that I can find in Google Books is a single reference from the Christian Crusade for Truth in 1986 (http://books.google.com/books?q=%22jonathan+williams%22+%22legions+of+sata n%22&btnG=Search+Books). Surely SOMEONE must've seen a copy of the book—where did this quote originate?

The goyim certainly are easily fooled if they never check their sources.

Just what the 'hell' are you talking about? I have not yet obtained absolute proof, but there is a lot more than you are mentioning. Are you new at this internet thing?


Old page where it was presumably once sold:
404 - Document Not Found

You can find "Jonathan Williams (politician) (1750 – 1815)" On this list. Seems Wikipedia scrubbed him from the record, but missed removing the now broken link on this Romanian page. You will not find this on the english version of the page.
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_%28dezambiguizare%29

Google estimates 16,200 search hits for" "Jonathan Williams" "Legions of Satan" ", but only shows you 168. 168 still being a very sizable number.
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&safe=off&q="Jonathan+Williams"+"Legions+of+Satan"&sa=N&filter=0

Some random web references:
http://unholyjake.blogspot.com/2009/12/some-research-into-legions-of-satan.html
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/greatesthoax.htm
http://watch.pair.com/pilgrim.html
http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony2.html

inverselogic
27-03-2010, 03:41 AM
Seems that if this book actually does exist, somebody has done a damn good job of making it disappear a long time ago.

bendoon
27-03-2010, 03:47 AM
“A holy war will now begin on America and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown. . . . “Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for Divine World Government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire.

All religion will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses and they will all be under the invisible All-seeing Eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

Well the bit about Christianity has certainly come true with the rise of Judeo Christianity (Christian Zionism) which was really unknown even 50 years ago. Although I can't help but thinking that the other bit its just another attempt to lay the blame on the 'British' and Freemasons whilst the real architects get let off the hook.

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 04:58 AM
IN the video it used this quote:

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

As the quote says it is important for the enemy of the Jews to oppress and make the Jews suffer.

That means we have to support the Jews and wake them up to the New World Order and join forces with them.

1977
27-03-2010, 05:57 AM
Just what the 'hell' are you talking about? I have not yet obtained absolute proof, but there is a lot more than you are mentioning. Are you new at this internet thing?


Old page where it was presumably once sold:
http://www.amazon.com/Legions-Satan-Jonathan-Williams/dp/B000VBGEUI

You can find "Jonathan Williams (politician) (1750 – 1815)" On this list. Seems Wikipedia scrubbed him from the record, but missed removing the now broken link on this Romanian page. You will not find this on the english version of the page.
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_%28dezambiguizare%29

I've seen the Amazon listing, but it's even more perplexing. Why is this the only place where it's listed? Evidently none of the reviewers have seen the book, and only know it from the same quotation that has been copy and pasted all over the Internet.

Searching for Jonathan Williams (1750 - 1815) produces quite a few results, including some brief biographies, so I have no doubt that he was a real person.

Hell, here's a picture of the guy (http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3b37563/):

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/305/3b37563r.jpg

And his WorldCat entry: http://orlabs.oclc.org/identities/lccn-n85-247728

Very strange.

What rubs me the wrong way about that quote is that it makes it seem as though George Washington, who was the wealthiest man in America, wasn't in on it from the start. But Alexander Hamilton was Washington's private secretary and speechwriter, and it is really friggin' obvious that Hamilton was an agent of British bankers. Hell, the Jefferson faction even said so.

And if you don't think the Federalist faction was cozy with the British, just look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay%27s_treaty:

The terms were designed primarily by Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton with strong support from President George Washington and chief negotiator John Jay....

In return, the United States gave most favored nation trading status to Britain, and acquiesced in British anti-French maritime policies. The United States guaranteed the payment of private prewar debts owed by Americans to British merchants that could not be collected in U.S. courts (the U.S. paid £600,000 in 1802)....

Bradford Perkins argued in 1955 that the treaty was the first establishment of a special relationship between Britain and America, with a second installment under Lord Salisbury.

America was never a "citadel of freedom." If you read Alexander Hamilton, he explicitly states that a strong federal government was necessary to preserve the interests of wealthy elites and and prevent any possibility of civilian uprisings like Shays' Rebellion (which itself may have been a "false flag"). Aaron Burr should've gotten a medal for killing the bastard.

sm1973
27-03-2010, 11:59 AM
Good thread, thanks for the info.

haukipesukone
27-03-2010, 12:58 PM
Regions of Saturn highlights an important historical truth in respect of what was recorded by Jonathan Williams (1750-1815) in his 1781 book, Legions of Satan. Williams - a dedicated American patriot - wrote of a warning that had been given to George Washington by General Charles Cornwallis after Washington, along with his French allies, had secured the surrender of Cornwallis at the Battle of Yorktown, on 19th October, 1781. History has since accredited Cornwallis as being responsible for the loss of British-held colonies to continental forces. Cornwallis knew, however, that his military defeat was but the genesis of a world catastrophe, and that civil unrest would continue unabated until such times as mind-control could be accomplished via false religion. And what Cornwallis predicted over two hundred years ago has now finally come to pass.

The removal of Legions of Satan from the U.S. Library of Congress ought to ring alarm bells within all Americans of good conscience simply because this act of public censorship is part of the ongoing effort to erase the tracks of those who are or have been actively engaged in the subversion of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The removal of such an important historical document from the public record was done, in our opinion by, James H. Billington who, since 1987 has been head of the Library of Congress. Prior to that, Billington, a Rhodes scholar, was director of the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars; yet another tax-exempt foundation actively engaged in the rewriting of American history either through lies, distortions, or the omission of pertinent facts.

The article continues in http://fugaziquo.com/directory/pages/articles/kerr-stewart/regions_of_saturn.htm

romas
27-03-2010, 01:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dfcR4.jpg

suthseaxan
27-03-2010, 01:44 PM
This book " LEGIONS OF SATAN " describes the enthronement of the

SECRET CORPORATION which now OWNS the UNITED STATES.

WRITTEN in 1782 COLONEL WILLIAMS was an OFFICER in one

of GEORGE WASHINGTON'S ARTILLERY REGIMENTS.


WASHINGTON was of course a HIGH RANKING EMPLOYEE of the

BRITISH EAST INDIA COMPANY. His WIFE MARTHA owned

HUNDREDS of SHARES in the BANK of ENGLAND. ( her ownership

of CLASS A STOCK in the BANK of ENGLAND was confirmed on

the HISTORY CHANNEL second week of JUNE 2001. )


I just finished CHECKING the BOOK CATALOGS of 5000 LIBRARIES

in NORTH AMERICA using the INTERLIBRARY LOAN SOFTWARE

PROGRAM called WORLDCAT. " LEGIONS OF SATAN "

has DISAPPEARED off of PLANET EARTH.


TEN YEARS AGO " LEGIONS OF SATAN " was in at least 50 libraries.

It's called MAGICK folks. NOW YOU SEE IT. NOW YOU DONT.

JUST LIKE CHANDRA LEVY. YES I SPELLED MAGICK the

GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD WAY. ( or the ASTRUM ARGENTEUM )


WEST POINT'S WEBSITE is NOW SAYING that COLONEL WILLIAMS

NEVER EVEN FOUGHT in the AMERICAN REVOLUTION.


LIES. LIES. AND MORE LIES.


This is how THE SECRET OLIGARCHY REWRITES the HISTORY BOOKS.


I can feel my BLOOD PRESSURE elevating itself.




Have a dig at this site http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=legions+of+satan&l=ctrl%40listserv.aol.com

suthseaxan
27-03-2010, 01:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccdalscvsd8



in a book title same as thread written by jonathan williams

guess when it was written?

1789

i want to hunt this book down. Needless to say it is out of print

1782

91181
27-03-2010, 02:11 PM
IN the video it used this quote:

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

As the quote says it is important for the enemy of the Jews to oppress and make the Jews suffer.

That means we have to support the Jews and wake them up to the New World Order and join forces with them.


Kind of ironic that a jew basher created this thread ,hopefully Rodin will learn the error of his ways , and other fools like him .. Just depends how far the ignorance flows within them i guess..

Wakey wakey jew bashers!!!

iaintoff
27-03-2010, 04:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcDALSCVsD8



In a book title same as thread written by Jonathan Williams

Guess when it was written?

1789

I want to hunt this book down. Needless to say it is out of print


exactly, this is actually coming into fluition now about the British Empire and Scotland will be the new Jerusalem or apparently always has been:
Biblical History and Prophesies of the Els:

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/alien_races.html

"It may be that Edinburgh , Scotland, City of Theion and tribe of Gad, the highest most noble Jewery may wish to reclaim all that is best and noble in Interstellar Fraternity"

ignore the ufo title and scroll down a little to where the researcher gets to the nitty gritty about Scotland, jersulem and the new order.

suthseaxan
27-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Kind of ironic that a jew basher created this thread ,hopefully Rodin will learn the error of his ways , and other fools like him .. Just depends how far the ignorance flows within them i guess..

Wakey wakey jew bashers!!!

It would seem you are exactly the type identified in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109924

Your post was not warranted so why not take it elsewhere.

iaintoff
27-03-2010, 04:56 PM
It would seem you are exactly the type identified in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109924

Your post was not warranted so why not take it elsewhere.

nither is your intrusion into this post, which makes you just as ignorant, you could have easily sent Rodin a private message, now kindly bugger off, unless of course you've got something constructive to add to the actual subject.;)

suthseaxan
27-03-2010, 05:03 PM
nither is your intrusion into this post, which makes you just as ignorant, you could have easily sent Rodin a private message, now kindly bugger off, unless of course you've got something constructive to add to the actual subject.;)

Ditto

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 05:09 PM
you guys often claim Alex Jones is not telling the truth. Now we have clear evidence that the Jews are not the enemy and we intact should support them. Those that bash Jews are allies to the New World Order. In other words "shills". :D

iaintoff
27-03-2010, 05:11 PM
Ditto

Ditto=dumb arse...

read through the post i think you'll find i have (Troll)

but that's right your not actually here to read and contribute are you, i await a predictable brain dead response...proceed....

iaintoff
27-03-2010, 05:15 PM
you guys often claim Alex Jones is not telling the truth. Now we have clear evidence that the Jews are not the enemy and we intact should support them. Those that bash Jews are allies to the New World Order. In other words "shills". :D


isn't there a time and place there countless other threads on this and its all getting very boring. (sigh)

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 05:26 PM
isn't there a time and place there countless other threads on this and its all getting very boring. (sigh)

I would have expected, you said "I guess you are right Mr. Radio Illuminati, something does not add up. It looks to me it is true the Jews are our allies and they are just as much a victim if not more, to the New World Order than we are (non Jews)."

I respect when people are honest and admit if they are wrong, but instead I have to read a typical sheeple avoidance of the truth. It only underline that you guys that bash the Jews have another agenda than seek the truth and nothing but the truth.

iaintoff
27-03-2010, 05:48 PM
whatever mate, i guess your right, can we leave it now and get back to the topic of the post much obliged:)

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 06:02 PM
whatever mate, i guess your right, can we leave it now and get back to the topic of the post much obliged:)

Are you giving me a double speak?

How can I be right if the topic of the post is

“Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for Divine World Government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire.

All religion will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses and they will all be under the invisible All-seeing Eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

How can I be right that those that bash the Jews are allies with the the New World Order and yet you want to go back to the topic of the thread that is about Jew bashing.

I don't think you are very honest with me. :confused:

bendoon
27-03-2010, 06:16 PM
Are you giving me a double speak?

How can I be right if the topic of the post is

“Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for Divine World Government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire.

All religion will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses and they will all be under the invisible All-seeing Eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

How can I be right that those that bash the Jews are allies with the the New World Order and yet you want to go back to the topic of the thread that is about Jew bashing.

I don't think you are very honest with me. :confused:

Are the two bits you bolded true or not ?

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 06:21 PM
It does not make sense.

In the Jew Bashing video there was this quote:

"“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

It clearly shows the Jew Bashers are either fools or shills on the payroll of the New World order.

bendoon
27-03-2010, 06:23 PM
Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion

All religion will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses

Is that true or not ?

Since that was written all the major Churches have changed from being anti Jewish to pro Jewish.

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 06:28 PM
Is that true or not ?

Since that was written all the major Churches have changed from being anti Jewish to pro Jewish.

It is not true because New World order religion is all religions in one.

"At the proper moment in history, the Pope will visit the combined Jewish/Christian/Moslem sector of Jerusalem to announce that all religions should be combined into one. "

http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1094.cfm

http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/earth7.jpg

novymir
27-03-2010, 06:35 PM
It does not make sense.

In the Jew Bashing video there was this quote:

"“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

It clearly shows the Jew Bashers are either fools or shills.

Persecution and oppression of "thejews"? Now, why would that happen? Just because??
Objectively speaking it would appear that the method used to induce "anti-semitism" would be to place "jews" in dominating positions of society, and let'em go about raping and ravaging it, mind-controlling the population and destroying any opposition to such a condition. That might have a negative effect... assuming the mind-control was ineffective or stopped at one point.

How and why else would "antisemitism' become anything but insignificant?
Oh, I forgot... those dumb stupid neanderthal goyim... they are ,well, inferior and dangerous...they can get wound up with just a few "fictional" "conspiracy theories"...:rolleyes:

oioioi
27-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Could it be that Islam has taken a leaf out of this book?

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 06:46 PM
Persecution and oppression of "thejews"? Now, why would that happen? Just because??
Objectively speaking it would apear that the method used to induce "anti-semitism" would be to place "jews" in dominating positions of society, and let'em go about raping and ravaging it, mind-controlling the population and destroying any opposition to such a condition. That might have a negative effect... assuming the mind-control was ineffective or stopped at one point.

How and why else would "antisemitism' become anything but insignificant?
Oh, I forgot... those dumb stupid neanderthal goyim... they are ,well, inferior and dangerous...

As you clearly can read from the quote by the founder of Zionism. They want to hurt the Jews as much as possible and they want non Jews to hate the Jews.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/zionismpromotes.cfm

That means we have to support the Jews and wake them up to the New World Order.

If we bash Jews then we are supporting the New World Order

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 06:52 PM
Could it be that Islam has taken a leaf out of this book?

The New World Order also wants a conflict with the west + Jews and Muslims. "The clash of civilizations".

First they smash Jews, Muslims and the west together in a huge war. Then they will call for a world religion because the wars have been so tough and we need a solution, if we have to live in peace on the same planet.

tinyint
27-03-2010, 06:57 PM
The New World Order also wants a conflict with the west + Jews and Muslims. "The clash of civilizations".

First they smash Jews, Muslims and the west together in a huge war. Then they will call for a world religion because the wars have been so tough and we need a solution, if we have to live in peace.

Do you differentiate between jews and identity thieves posing as jews, aka zionists?

I don't fear the what you call NWO, but I have actually a very bad feeling with our current world. Can it go worse, except for nuclear war, the zionists threaten to start?

We need a new world order, but a different than the establishment try to sell us.

Judging your posts, you want to keep up religiously nuts doctrines serving just a few 'chosen' racist zionazis?

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 07:04 PM
Do you differentiate between jews and identity thieves posing as jews, aka zionists?

I don't fear the what you call NWO, but I have actually a very bad feeling with our current world. Can it go worse, except for nuclear war, the zionists threaten to start?

We need a new world order, but a different than the establishment try to sell us.

Judging your posts, you want to keep up religiously nuts doctrines serving just a few 'chosen' racist zionazis?

Zionists are for me the same as Al Queda is for the Muslims. Both groups try to bring as the group they pretend to belong to in the worst light as possible.

They want to make an Israel vs. Iran war to kick-start WW3. (Clash of the civilizations)

I believe Al Quida and Zionists are tools of the New World Order and not the major players.

I am just tired of the Jew Bashers. They don't wake people up. The only thing they do is to promote a New World Order agenda, that it is the Jews, that is the problem and they even bash the ones that wake most people up, because they don't bash Jews.

Either they are fools or shills because their actions fully support New World Order in every way.

tinyint
27-03-2010, 07:18 PM
Zionists are for me the same as Al Queda is for the Muslims. Both groups try to bring as the group they pretend to belong to in the worst light as possible.

They want to make an Israel vs. Iran war to kick-start WW3. (Clash of the civilizations)

I believe Al Quida and Zionists are tools of the New World Order and not the major players.

I am just tired of the Jew Bashers. They don't wake people up. The only thing they do is to promote a New World Order agenda, that it is the Jews, that is the problem and they even bash the ones that wake most people up, because they don't bash Jews.

Either they are fools or shills because their actions fully support New World Order in every way.

I am sorry, but you did not answer my questions.

Could you please define what you think is a jew?

Do you think, we should support Israel then?

What do you think, the NWO consists of?

Do you want to keep up religious dogma, ursury and political correctness?

suthseaxan
27-03-2010, 08:11 PM
Ditto=dumb arse...

read through the post i think you'll find i have (Troll)

but that's right your not actually here to read and contribute are you, i await a predictable brain dead response...proceed....

Back at you

rodin
27-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Where did this thread spring from?

I had forgotten all about it.

Now the primary research here should be first of all to authenticate the OP book. I note that it was inspired by the revelation of Cornwallis

Regions of Saturn highlights an important historical truth in respect of what was recorded by Jonathan Williams (1750-1815) in his 1781 book, Legions of Satan. Williams - a dedicated American patriot - wrote of a warning that had been given to George Washington by General Charles Cornwallis after Washington, along with his French allies, had secured the surrender of Cornwallis at the Battle of Yorktown, on 19th October, 1781

http://fugaziquo.com/directory/pages/articles/kerr-stewart/regions_of_saturn.htm

He must have been a fast writer.

stelios
27-03-2010, 08:37 PM
That means we have to support the Jews and wake them up to the New World Order and join forces with them.

You go ahead and support yourself and join forces.
I will carry on opposing as i am sure will everyone else.

1977
27-03-2010, 08:38 PM
Where did this thread spring from?

I had forgotten all about it.

Now the primary research here should be first of all to authenticate the OP book. I note that it was inspired by the revelation of Cornwallis

http://fugaziquo.com/directory/pages/articles/kerr-stewart/regions_of_saturn.htm

He must have been a fast writer.
Good catch. Everyone seems to be parroting 1781...

rodin
27-03-2010, 08:45 PM
DanteLacey21 FugaziQuo, Your an embarassment to the human race. How you even have the nerve to state that the holocaust and 9/11 were hoaxes is beyond me. Only an uneducated idiot such as yourself, would make such moronic claims. Both of which I might add are laughable. The overwhelming evidence that proves the holocaust happened makes your claim of a hoax nothing but a farce.

comment made in response to

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Fugazi is making some good videos

radio illuminati
27-03-2010, 09:01 PM
It does not make sense.

In the Jew Bashing video there was this quote:

"“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

It clearly shows the Jew Bashers are either fools or shills on the payroll of the New World order.

INTERESTING!

You go ahead and support yourself and join forces.
I will carry on opposing as i am sure will everyone else.

Now it is clear that you don't want to follow the truth even though this comes from your own material.

You have exposed yourself as working for the new world order agenda.

rodin
27-03-2010, 09:11 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Part 2 pending I guess

rodin
27-03-2010, 09:12 PM
comment made in response to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD0BDvVINdA

Fugazi is making some good videos

quoted to show

radio illuminati
28-03-2010, 04:26 AM
I can see when I bring up information that question the Jew theories then people just ignore it and continue the Jew bashing.

Again it underline that you are not interested in seeking truth. Only find "evidence" that support your ideas that Jews are evil.

1977
28-03-2010, 04:29 AM
Here's something just for you, Rodin—Alexander Hamilton may have been Jewish. http://www.jewishpress.com/content.cfm?contentid=21464

"It is unclear if the school was in the synagogue or in a separate building. Curiously enough, we know of the existence of a Jewish school through some of the biographies of Alexander Hamilton, born in Nevis. Hamilton's mother, Rachel Faucett, after her separation from her Danish-Jewish husband John Michal Lavien, cohabited with a Scotsman, James Hamilton, in Nevis and gave birth to Alexander. 'The Anglican Church could not offer full acceptance of the situation... (and) denied Alexander membership or education in the church school. He was enrolled in a private school on Nevis taught by a Jewish head mistress and ... soon was fluent in Hebrew and French.'"[v]

"His son later related that 'rarely as he alluded to his personal history, he mentioned with a smile his having been taught to repeat the Decalogue in Hebrew, at the school of a Jewess, when so small that he was placed standing by her side upon a table.'

"Perhaps from this exposure at an impressionable age, Hamilton harbored a lifelong reverence for Jews. In later years, he privately jotted on a sheet of paper that the 'progress of the Jews ... from their earliest history to the present time has been and is entirely out of the ordinary course of human affairs. Is it not then a fair conclusion that the cause also is an extraordinary one - in other words, that it is the effect of some great providential plan?' Later on, in the heat of a renowned legal case, Hamilton challenged the opposing counsel: 'Why distrust the evidence of the Jews? Discredit them and you destroy the Christian religion....' "[vi]

But knowing you, you probably know this already.

91181
29-03-2010, 01:29 PM
bump,

biggles
29-03-2010, 02:08 PM
As you clearly can read from the quote by the founder of Zionism. They want to hurt the Jews as much as possible and they want non Jews to hate the Jews.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/zionismpromotes.cfm

That means we have to support the Jews and wake them up to the New World Order.

If we bash Jews then we are supporting the New World Order

Ditto for Christians & Muslims, ...

biggles
29-03-2010, 02:09 PM
bump,

Thats so 90's...

biggles
29-03-2010, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcDALSCVsD8



In a book title same as thread written by Jonathan Williams

Guess when it was written?

1789

I want to hunt this book down. Needless to say it is out of print

See how lineage is so important to these 'people'. The blasphemy of them claiming to be from Christ is breathtaking.

Replace Christ with Cain- Thats more acurate.

radio illuminati
29-03-2010, 02:16 PM
Ditto for Christians & Muslims, ...
Sure I agree. Muslims and Christians are also under NWO propaganda attack.

biggles
29-03-2010, 02:22 PM
Sure I agree. Muslims and Christians are also under NWO propaganda attack.

peace out

fekdemasons
29-03-2010, 02:29 PM
Kind of ironic that a jew basher created this thread ,hopefully Rodin will learn the error of his ways , and other fools like him .. Just depends how far the ignorance flows within them i guess..

Wakey wakey jew bashers!!!

Whats that ??

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/8476/jewbacca1.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/jewbacca1.jpg/)

novymir
29-03-2010, 02:53 PM
I can see when I bring up information that question the Jew theories then people just ignore it and continue the Jew bashing.

Again it underline that you are not interested in seeking truth. Only find "evidence" that support your ideas that Jews are evil.

Number 1, you aren't telling me anything I didn't know years ago, number 2 , it's not for me to "join 'thejews" and support" them. It is they who insist on identifying and remaining within a separatist/supremacist tribal Entity. It is they that are misguided. And it is them that are responsible to save themselves. The only way they're going to save themselves is to break free from the group-mind that possesses them. I do not "bash" 'jews", nor do I say they are "evil", but as a collective consciousness they are a predatory/parasitic force that is a danger to the whole of humanity. I see little difference between the entity known as "thejews" and what Freemasonry has become-- at the lower levels (33 degree and lower) they are ignorant/unconscious as to the agenda they are being used to further.

Being a "jew" is a choice.

What is "jewish"? No one here has answered my question, and you yourself was asked specifically by tinyint,; "what is "ajew", but you ignored the question... you people blather on and think you are protecting people from "persecution" or whatever but what you're doing is enabling them, validating their identity, and in-effect maintaining the curse they were born under. The best thing "ajew" could do for themself and THE WHOLE would be to reject that identity, deprogram, deleting the destructive programing within their DNA and become an actual individual. Do I realize how difficult that would be? Yes, but it's the only way. They are largely unconscious about what they've been doing to the rest of humanity and themselves(but many DO know and have said so), or, they don't really know just how destructive their behavior has been, they might think (conflict of interest rationalization) they are working towards a higher purpose that benefits humanity but that is Not the case in reality. They are a tool used to destroy trust and awareness of True Self-Spirit.

It's not just about "zionism'. Were Lenin and Trotsky 'zionists"? Were "Logical positivists" zionists?

"Sir Alfred Jules Ayer (1910-1989) was born on October 29, 1910 in London. He was known as A.J. Ayer or "Freddie" to friends. Born into a wealthy family, his father was a Swiss Calvinist financier who worked for the Rothschild family. His mother, Reine Citroën, was from the Dutch-Jewish family, founders of the Citroën car company in France."
http://great-philosophers.suite101.com/article.cfm/alfred-jules-ayer-philosophy-and-works

You are the one who needs to re-evaluate your pre-conceived notions.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058736068&postcount=2141
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058742065&postcount=2212
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058628897&postcount=420

The Controversy of Zion
By Douglas Reed
http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/Controversybook/index.htm
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radio illuminati
29-03-2010, 03:05 PM
novymir,

You talk about the Jews as they are rats and a plague to society. You are aware the NWO propaganda media makes the Jews look as bad as possible because the media are owned by the New World Order.

When you address the Jews in this way you speak of them as they are an enemy of humanity and that is exactly what they Zionists wants. They want you to hate the Jews so they can feel threatened by the non Jews and isolate them selves in Israel.

You are working for the New World Order agenda.

novymir
29-03-2010, 03:32 PM
novymir,

You talk about the Jews as they are rats and a plague to society. You are aware the NWO propaganda media makes the Jews look as bad as possible because the media are owned by the New World Order.

When you address the Jews in this way you speak of them as they are an enemy of humanity and that is exactly what they Zionists wants. They want you to hate the Jews so they can feel threatened by the non Jews and isolate them selves in Israel.

You are working for the New World Order agenda.

Ah, bullshit... I stated my reasons and my position. Zionism and Bolshevism, Maoism and Logical Positivism was spawned from Judaism=Talmudism=Pharisaism. 2500 years of thinking and Being "jewish" is why the NWO has advanced to the present stage.
If I was "ajew" I would reinvent or rebirth myself with an free individual identity, which is basically what I myself have been doing, seeing as how Judaists have been the dominating influence in America for my whole life and the intense mind-control they've been projecting into society.
It's all a-ok to go over the top and demonize everyone else's group identity, or try to force others into one, but "god" forbid "thejews" take a look at themselves and their responsibility for why they have been viewed negatively through the ages.
I'm not demonizing them, I'm just telling it like it is, if that equates to "demonization" well, demons can be dispelled. But seeing them and owning the truth is a prerequisite...



ARE WE POSSESSED?
by Paul Levy

"...Jung writes, “…any autonomous complex not subject to the conscious will exerts a possessive effect on consciousness proportional to its strength and limits the latter’s freedom.” As it takes over and becomes in charge of a person, a complex incorporates a seemingly autonomous regime within the greater body politic of the psyche. Writing about autonomous complexes, Jung says “…the complex forms something like a shadow government of the ego,” in that the complex dictates to the ego.

When we are taken over by and in internal conflict with and because of an autonomous complex, it is as if we, as natural rulers of our own psychic landscape, have been deposed, and are living in an occupied country. We are allowed our seeming freedom as long as it doesn’t threaten the sovereignty and dominance of the ruling power. Jung comments, “…a man does not notice it when he is governed by a demon; he puts all his skill and cunning at the service of his unconscious master, thereby heightening its power a thousandfold.” Being nonlocal, this inner, psychological situation can manifest both within our psyche and out in the world at the same time. "
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/artis/AreWePossessed.html

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rodin
03-04-2010, 01:02 PM
Kind of ironic that a jew basher created this thread ,hopefully Rodin will learn the error of his ways , and other fools like him .. Just depends how far the ignorance flows within them i guess..

Wakey wakey jew bashers!!!

Wakey wakey victims of the Jewish conspiracy

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 01:15 PM
Ok i get it. Jews are behind New World Order because they would love to play Israel and Iran out against each other to wipe out both countries.

They also think it is wise to wipe out 6 million Jews in concentration camps.

What if the Jews are true victims and just being played out against others. Divide and conquer?

That just shows why New World order is powerful because they can lure you into hating every enemy they put in front of you. :D

Don't blame them for manipulating you. Blame yourself for being a fool and a useful idiot of the New World Order. They thank you!

"
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

caleb_11
03-04-2010, 01:22 PM
Satan doesn't exist. Demonic entities do.

freedom1st
03-04-2010, 01:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcDALSCVsD8



In a book title same as thread written by Jonathan Williams

Guess when it was written?

1789

I want to hunt this book down. Needless to say it is out of print

I guess the validity of this (pertaining to today) depends on whether we believe the British Empire still exists.

rodin
03-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Ok i get it. Jews are behind New World Order because they would love to play Israel and Iran out against each other to wipe out both countries.

They also think it is wise to wipe out 6 million Jews in concentration camps.

What if the Jews are true victims and just being played out against others. Divide and conquer?

That just shows why New World order is powerful because they can lure you into hating every enemy they put in front of you. :D

Don't blame them for manipulating you. Blame yourself for being a fool and a useful idiot of the New World Order. They thank you!

"
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

A voice of reason among the hissing of the Jews...

Bishop Williamson is absolutely correct. The Holocaust is a hoax.

The evidence is conclusive. The camp records of the famous Auschwitz concentration camp were buried in the former Soviet archives for fifty years so that they would not be presented to the Nuremberg kngaroo court. The records show that a total of 140,000 inmates, seventy thousand of them Jews, died in the camp, principally from typhus and other diseases. Not one death certificate lists "gassing" as a cause of death. The Auschwitz camp was a giant production center for the German war effort. It consisted of three main camps, Auschwitz One, Birkenau and Monowitz. There were at least 38 satellite camps producing such things as synthetic rubber, petroleum from coal, etc. Auschwitz was built in a very swampy area at the junction of the Vistula and Sola rivers in southwestern Poland. Typhus was a major problem in the camp and the camp was temporarily shut down in the summer of 1942 because of a severe epidemic for over six months. The Reichsfuehrer SS, Heinrich Himmler, ordered that the "death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs". Crematory ovens were constructed by the end of Spring 1943 to sanitarily dispose of the bodies of prisoners killed by disease. The actual disposal rate of the crematory ovens is consistent with the deaths by disease, not with the supposed millions of victims. The famous Zyklon B, inert hydrogen cyanide, was used extensively at the camp to delouse clothing and barracks and to kill typhus bearing lice. All this is abundantly confirmed by the suppressed camp records. The Germans also used provable delousing chambers for delousing the prisoners clothing which could have been converted to actual killing chambers had that been the Germans intent. (see "nazi gassings.com" by Fritz Berg for technical details.)

No German orders for an extermination of Jews exist. Prior to the invasion of Russia German policy was to deport the Jews out of Europe. Madagascar, an island off the coast of Africa, was frequently discussed as a possibility. Once the invasion of the USSR commenced, the Germans deported the Jews to the occupied territories of the east. Large numbers of Jews were shot in Russia, as the murderous Bolshevik commissars were mainly Jewish. However, 1/2 to 2/3rd's of Russia's Jews were deported by Stalin to the interior of the Soviet Union ahead of the German advance to work in the Soviet industries east of the Ural Mountains. These Jews were not even under German control and could not have been exterminated by the Germans. These Jews then swarmed out of the USSR after the war to invade Arab Palestine.

The "evidence" for the "gassing" program consists entirely of the forged documents and perjured testimonies offered at Nuremberg. The Nuremberg kangaroo court was organized and run by Jews behind the scenes. According to Hungarian author Louis Marschalko in his book, "The World Conquerors", out of 3000 total personnel at the trial 2400 were Jews. The German defendants were hung in October 1946 between the Day of Atonement and the the Final Day of Judgement. The hangman, John Woods Short, was an American Jew. The court official who read out the sentences was Wolf Frank, a German Jew. It was the Robinson brothers of the Institute of Jewish Affairs of the World Jewish Congress who sold the western governments on the idea of the trial. It was the New York Zionist Jew, David "Mickey" Marcus, who picked all the personnel for the trial. The testimonies of the Jewish "survivors" at the trial are distinguished by three things.

(1)They are internally inconsistent;

(2) They are inconsistent with each other;

(3)They are inconsistent with the physical facts.

The testimonies obtained from the German defendants were obtained by torture, including the crushing of testicles, rubbing faces in faeces and urine and other barbarities. German soldiers and officials adopted the trial tactic of not disputing the mythical extermination but of pretending that someone else was responsible. Such politically motivated testimonies are worthless as valid historical evidence.

Many other facts speak against the extermination story. The Germans had an SS judicial branch under Judge Konrad Morgen to root out abuse of prisoners in the camps. Such a policy is incomprehensible if the Germans were really exterminating Jews. The International Red Cross was allowed free access to the camps during the war to deliver food parcels and other supplies. They found no evidence of extermination. Underground intelligence groups operated out of all the German camps, utilizing radio and carrier pigeon transmission to report to their various governments-in-exile. They reported no knowledge of an extermination which was supposedly taking place before their eyes. American aerial reconnaissance planes took many photograps of the Auschwitz camp during the supposed height of the exterminations. Those photograps show zero evidence of extermination. Free Polish labor was employed at Auschwitz. Those Poles reported no evidence of any extermination at the camp where they had been working.

At first, the exterminations were supposedly occuring at the camps in Germany as well as the Polish camps. Now it is admitted by the Jews that the exterminations were only taking place in Poland and Russia. Why are the claims about the Polish camps any more believable than the now admittedly false claims about the German camps? Several highly competent forensic investigations have now been made of the supposed "gas chambers" of Auschwitz. The first was made by Fred Leuchter, an American engineer. His investigations, based on actual brick and mortar samples confirmed by videotape, show no traces of "Prussian Blue" stain in the buildings where "gassings" supposedly took place. The buildings show none of the design characteristics of real gas chambers. Leuchter' findings have subsequently been duplicated by the Viennese engineer and court expert, Walter Luftl and the German physics and chemistry expert, Germar Rudolf. All three men have been subjected to career destruction and criminal prosecution for their efforts. Professor Robert Faurrison in France, who has done so much to destroy the credibility of survivor testimony, has also been subjected to numerous legal persecutions for his efforts. He was nearly beaten to death by Jewish thugs for his efforts.

It should be obvious on the face of it that if the Jews and the world media they control really had the evidence to back up their claims, there would be no need for such repressions. But if the Jews are lying, then we have proof of a real Jewish conspiracy to rival the fabled "Protocols of Zion". That is why the issue is such dynamite. It is also obvious why the Allied governments at Nuremberg went along with the hoax. They were at the mercy of an international financial power capable of destroying them if they did not. (No different, really, than AIPAC controlling the US Congress.) Moreover, the myth of the extermination of the Jews could be used to divert attention from the much greater crimes of the Allies, such as burning hundreds of thousands of civilians alive from the air, deporting millions of Russians and Cossacks back to the USSR under Operation Keelhaul, murdering one million disarmed Germans by starvation and exposure to the elements under Dwight David Eisenhower and delivering half of Europe to Joseph Stalin and his Jewish commissars. One might also mention the mass raping and plundering of the Red Army.

What the Jews gained from the hoax is equally clear. Because of the purported extermination by the Germans they are now the moral untouchables of the world. No one can criticize them for fear of "never again". They can do whatever they like to the Arabs of Palestine. The tens of millions of victims of the Jewish commissars hide behind the lie of the "six million". This is the lie of the modern world. This is the lie which Richard Williamson speaks out against.

Read the other comments -oh an the side bar gives you the flavour too

http://madamearcati.blogspot.com/2009/01/pope-reinstates-holocaust-denier-bishop.html

.... Pedophile-covering up Jewish Pope 'reinstates' Holocaust denier bishop - and gives rise to righteous anger - Williamson better have a good firewall on his computer all I can say

rodin
03-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Ok i get it. Jews are behind New World Order because they would love to play Israel and Iran out against each other to wipe out both countries.

They also think it is wise to wipe out 6 million Jews in concentration camps.

What if the Jews are true victims and just being played out against others. Divide and conquer?

That just shows why New World order is powerful because they can lure you into hating every enemy they put in front of you. :D

Don't blame them for manipulating you. Blame yourself for being a fool and a useful idiot of the New World Order. They thank you!

"
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)"

Jews do this and then cover it up because they are the INVISIBLE EMPIRE

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/israel-did-911-all-the-proof-in-the-world/

And your response is

Ok i get it. Jews are behind New World Order


Well feck me they are because 911 was the catalysing event and they sure didn't do it for the benefit of Muslims

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Jews do this and then cover it up because they are the INVISIBLE EMPIRE

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/israel-did-911-all-the-proof-in-the-world/

And your response is



Well feck me they are because 911 was the catalysing event and they sure didn't do it for the benefit of Muslims

Ok so they kill 6 million Jews and wish to wipe out Israel with the Iran vs. Israel war. they also want the entire world to hate Israel as much as possible by heavy anti-Israel propaganda in the media.

Are they masochists? :eek:

runciter
03-04-2010, 03:00 PM
Ok so they kill 6 million Jews and wish to wipe out Israel with the Iran vs. Israel war. they also want the entire world to hate Israel as much as possible by heavy anti-Israel propaganda in the media.

Are they masochists? :eek:

the persecution of jews in nazi germany was necessary, in the eyes of zionist leaders, to create israel, and now iran is the only true obstacle to their hegemony in the region, so they want to neutralize it as they did with iraq

heavy anti-Israel propaganda in the media.

:)

before completing the ethnic cleansing of palestine, that you'd like to go unreported

---

on the holocaust

Truth, History and Integrity

by Gilad Atzmon

Saturday, March 13, 2010

(...)

When I was Young

When I was young and naïve I regarded history as a serious academic matter. As I understood it, history had something to do with truth seeking, documents, chronology and facts. I was convinced that history aimed to convey a sensible account of the past based on methodical research. I also believed that it was premised on the assumption that understanding the past may throw some light over our present and even help us to shape a prospect of a better future. I grew up in the Jewish state and it took me quite a while to understand that the Jewish historical narrative is very different. In the Jewish intellectual ghetto, one decides what the future ought to be, then one constructs ‘a past’ accordingly. Interestingly enough, this exact method is also prevalent amongst Marxists. They shape the past so it fits nicely into their vision of the future. As the old Russian joke says, “when the facts do not conform with the Marxist ideology, the Communist social scientists amend the facts (rather than revise the theory)”.

When I was young, I didn’t think that history was a matter of political decisions or agreements between a rabid Zionist lobby and its favorite holocaust survivor. I regarded historians as scholars who engaged in adequate research following some strict procedures. When I was young I even considered becoming an historian.

When I was young and naive I was also somehow convinced that what they told us about our ‘collective’ Jewish past really happened. I believed it all, the Kingdom of David, Massada, and then the Holocaust: the soap, the lampshade*, the death march, the six million.

As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians. It took me years to grasp that my great-grandmother wasn’t made into a ‘soap’ or a ‘lampshade’*. She probably perished out of exhaustion, typhus or maybe even by mass shooting. This was indeed bad and tragic enough, however not that different from the fate of many millions of Ukrainians who learned what communism meant for real. “Some of the worst mass murderers in history were Jews” writes Zionist Sever Plocker on the Israeli Ynet disclosing the Holodomor and Jewish involvement in this colossal crime, probably the greatest crime of the 20th century. The fate of my great-grandmother was not any different from hundreds of thousands of German civilians who died in an orchestrated indiscriminate bombing, because they were Germans. Similarly, people in Hiroshima died just because they were Japanese. 1 million Vietnamese died just because they were Vietnamese and 1.3 million Iraqis died because they were Iraqis. In short the tragic circumstances of my great grandmother wasn’t that special after all.

It Doesn’t make sense

It took me years to accept that the Holocaust narrative, in its current form, doesn’t make any historical sense. Here is just one little anecdote to elaborate on:

If, for instance, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of their Reich (Judenrein - free of Jews), or even dead, as the Zionist narrative insists, how come they marched hundreds of thousands of them back into the Reich at the end of the war? I have been concerned with this simple question for more than a while. I eventually launched into an historical research of the topic and happened to learn from Israeli holocaust historian professor Israel Gutman that Jewish prisoners actually joined the march voluntarily. Here is a testimony taken from Gutman’s book

"One of my friends and relatives in the camp came to me on the night of the evacuation and offered a common hiding place somewhere on the way from the camp to the factory. …The intention was to leave the camp with one of the convoys and to escape near the gate, using the darkness we thought to go a little far from the camp. The temptation was very strong. And yet, after I considered it all I then decided to join (the march) with all the other inmates and to share their fate " (Israel Gutman [editor], People and Ashes: Book Auschwitz - Birkenau, Merhavia 1957).

I am left puzzled here, if the Nazis ran a death factory in Auschwitz-Birkenau, why would the Jewish prisoners join them at the end of the war? Why didn’t the Jews wait for their Red liberators?

I think that 65 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, we must be entitled to start to ask the necessary questions. We should ask for some conclusive historical evidence and arguments rather than follow a religious narrative that is sustained by political pressure and laws. We should strip the holocaust of its Judeo-centric exceptional status and treat it as an historical chapter that belongs to a certain time and place

65 years after the liberation of Auschwitz we should reclaim our history and ask why? Why were the Jews hated? Why did European people stand up against their next door neighbours? Why are the Jews hated in the Middle East, surely they had a chance to open a new page in their troubled history? If they genuinely planned to do so, as the early Zionists claimed, why did they fail? Why did America tighten its immigration laws amid the growing danger to European Jews? We should also ask for what purpose do the holocaust denial laws serve? What is the holocaust religion there to conceal? As long as we fail to ask questions, we will be subjected to Zionists and their Neocons agents’ plots. We will continue killing in the name of Jewish suffering. We will maintain our complicity in Western imperialist crimes against humanity.

As devastating as it may be, at a certain moment in time, a horrible chapter was given an exceptionally meta-historical status. Its ‘factuality’ was sealed by draconian laws and its reasoning was secured by social and political settings. The Holocaust became the new Western religion. Unfortunately, it is the most sinister religion known to man. It is a license to kill, to flatten, no nuke, to wipe, to rape, to loot and to ethnically cleanse. It made vengeance and revenge into a Western value. However, far more concerning is the fact that it robs humanity of its heritage, it is there to stop us from looking into our past with dignity. Holocaust religion robs humanity of its humanism. For the sake of peace and future generations, the holocaust must be stripped of its exceptional status immediately. It must be subjected to thorough historical scrutiny. Truth and truth seeking is an elementary human experience. It must prevail.


*During WWII and after it was widely believed that soaps and lampshades were being mass produced from the bodies of Jewish victims. In recent years the Israeli Holocaust museum admitted that there was no truth in any of those accusations.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/truth-history-and-integrity-by-gilad-atzmon.html

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 03:02 PM
the persecution of jews in nazi germany was necessary, in the eyes of zionist leaders, to create israel, and now iran is the only true obstacle to their egemony in the region, so they want to neutralize it as they did with iraq



:)

before completing the ethnic cleansing of palestine, that you'd like to go unreported

---

on the holocaust



http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/truth-history-and-integrity-by-gilad-atzmon.html

Why would they like to wipe out Israel with the Iran vs. Israel war to kickstart WW3?

Why do they support terror in Israel?

Albert Pike 1871:

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3


"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Ok so they kill 6 million Jews and wish to wipe out Israel with the Iran vs. Israel war. they also want the entire world to hate Israel as much as possible by heavy anti-Israel propaganda in the media.

Are they masochists? :eek:

No they don't

I don't see Israel being 'wiped out' - I see a couple IDF soldiers bought the farm while invading Gaza and as punishment a ferocious missile attack on police stations etc. - just this week

I see men dressed in Iraq police uniforms take out women and shoot them - and the blame put on Al Qaeda - a patently false flag group who were framed by Jews for their genocidal act of 911, almost certainly IMO using nuclear demolition charges

And I see you shilling for them

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 03:12 PM
No they don't

I don't see Israel being 'wiped out' - I see a couple IDF soldiers bought the farm while invading Gaza and as punishment a ferocious missile attack on police stations etc. - just this week

I see men dressed in Iraq police uniforms take out women and shoot them - and the blame put on Al Qaeda - a patently false flag group who were framed by Jews for their genocidal act of 911, almost certainly IMO using nuclear demolition charges

And I see you shilling for them

How does this quote match your theory?
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other."

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
What a bunch of Anti jew bullsh*t, you know people really should look into the History of Arab treatment of Jews in the British Mandate of Palestine, under the Ottoman Turks there was relative peace for centuries in Israel, but the British had to come in there and create a nice big Dialectic which would ensure a British future in a very important region of the East.

runciter
03-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Why would they like to wipe out Israel with the Iran vs. Israel war to kickstart WW3?

your assumption, another possibility is that they simply want to neutralize iran

Why do they support terror in Israel?

to paint the palestinians, that they want to kick out of their land, as demented terrorists

Albert Pike 1871:

what pike was led to believe isn't necessarily true, i think masonry is controlled by the bankers

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Even Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Greets Orthodox Jew Rabbis With Respect

Iran Pres Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Greets Orthodox Jew Rabbis With Respect - YouTube

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 03:19 PM
your assumption, another possibility is that they simply want to neutralize iran



to paint the palestinians, that they want to kick out of their land, as demented terrorists



what pike was led to believe isn't necessarily true, i think masonry is controlled by the bankers

You speculate without backing it up with evidence.

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Even Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Greets Orthodox Jew Rabbis With Respect

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

As the Protocols state - we will supply oppositional leaders

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:24 PM
How does this quote match your theory?
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other."

OK that quote has always bothered me. But one contra indicator v a thousand others pointing in the opposite direction does not make a case for acquittal

If there really is a deeper conspiracy the Jews not 'in' on it better start joining those in search of freedom from deception

So far no takers

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103522

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 03:31 PM
your assumption, another possibility is that they simply want to neutralize iran



to paint the palestinians, that they want to kick out of their land, as demented terrorists



what pike was led to believe isn't necessarily true, i think masonry is controlled by the bankers

Are you a bit soft lad, you think the Palestinian muslims are happy go lucky friends of the Jews>?

And you think Albert Pike was mislead when his intellect was undoubtadly superior to your's, I assume you are not mislead?

http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/womenchildabuse/palestinian-child-soldiers.jpg

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 03:35 PM
OK that quote has always bothered me. But one contra indicator v a thousand others pointing in the opposite direction does not make a case for acquittal

If there really is a deeper conspiracy the Jews not 'in' on it better start joining those in search of freedom from deception

So far no takers

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103522

Have you talked with Israelis in a friendly manner about New World Order?

I have and my conclusion is they are super sheep like the rest of humanity.

I asked one Israeli about why they did not understand they are being fooled by an enemy posing as a friend(zionism) but stap them in their back.

He said"the victim is always the last to understand".

Imagine to be Jewish for one moment. Thousands of years being hunted by non Jews. Always blamed for everything. Having family that had lost their lives in concentration camps. Always being attacked by people from all over the world calling your country Israehell.

There comes a time when people get enough and then they isolate them selves among them selves and get very patriotic. We are living on a very unfriendly planet and everybody hate us. We need to be strong together. Israel we defend with our lives and we need to be strong so the enemies don't think we are weak and will mob against us.

This is how I believe they think and feel. I can't blame them. But they are being played out against others. Divide and conquer.

Did you know the Jews true mission is to create world peace. It is a heavy burden to be the chosen people of God. Wouldn't it be the best deception of all to make humanity hate the people of peace? Wouldn't that fit the agenda of Lucifer so he can create his loser empire of the bones lost in war.

Shalom(Peace)

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 03:37 PM
http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/images/applause.gif

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:43 PM
Are you a bit soft lad, you think the Palestinian muslims are happy go lucky friends of the Jews>?

And you think Albert Pike was mislead when his intellect was undoubtadly superior to your's, I assume you are not mislead?

http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/womenchildabuse/palestinian-child-soldiers.jpg

Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1086

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Some Middle eastern guy cupla thousand years ago

Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus.

Zionism should not be equated with Judaism. The contemptible treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government is supported and approved of by most Israeli Jews but not by all Jews. There are some Jews who are totally opposed to Zionism and to Israel's policies in the occupied territories of the West Bank. Here are three websites which express this position:

Jews Against Zionism
Not In My Name
The Great Gulf Between Zionism and Judaism

Zionism is ... racist, it is nationalist, and it is Biblically inspired (rather than spiritually inspired). Being a fundamentalist movement, Zionism is not categorically different from Nazism. Only when we understand Zionism in its nationalist and racist context will we begin to comprehend the depth of its atrocities. — Gilad Atzmon: Not In My Name: An Analysis of Jewish Righteousness

http://www.serendipity.li/zionism.htm

Ah - now we see through the glass darkly....

Political Zionism (ie Western so-called Christian governments and their populations v Islam... quite probably. Hence 911

Now Pike makes sense, and why it is much more 'Kosher' to criticise Zionism

Than you for spurring me into thought

God moves in a mysterious way

91181
03-04-2010, 03:45 PM
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-Holocaust-TheSixMillion&OtherNumbers/Numerology&TheologyOfThe6MillionNumber_files/JewsAgainstZionism.jpg

runciter
03-04-2010, 03:49 PM
Are you a bit soft lad, you think the Palestinian muslims are happy go lucky friends of the Jews>?

stop stealing their land and treating them like cattle, and see what happens

And you think Albert Pike was mislead when his intellect was undoubtadly superior to your's, I assume you are not mislead?

he was mind controlled via initiations and oaths like all masons, not exactly a free "intellect"

You speculate without backing it up with evidence.

i didn't provide masonic quotes, i don't think they are the most reliable source of information

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:53 PM
Have you talked with Israelis in a friendly manner about New World Order?

I have and my conclusion is they are super sheep like the rest of humanity.

I asked one Israeli about why they did not understand they are being fooled by an enemy posing as a friend(zionism) but stap them in their back.

He said"the victim is always the last to understand".

Imagine to be Jewish for one moment. Thousands of years being hunted by non Jews. Always blamed for everything. Having family that had lost their lives in concentration camps. Always being attacked by people from all over the world calling your country Israehell.

There comes a time when people get enough and then they isolate them selves among them selves and get very patriotic. We are living on a very unfriendly planet and everybody hate us. We need to be strong together. Israel we defend with our lives and we need to be strong so the enemies don't think we are weak and will mob against us.

This is how I believe they think and feel. I can't blame them. But they are being played out against others. Divide and conquer.

Did you know the Jews true mission is to create world peace. It is a heavy burden to be the chosen people of God. Wouldn't it be the best deception of all to make humanity hate the people of peace? Wouldn't that fit the agenda of Lucifer so he can create his loser empire of the bones lost in war.

Shalom(Peace)

Humans calling themselves Jews Muslims and Christians have been deceived -but by the Pharisees - the Sanhedrin of Satan himself.

99.99% per cent cannot see that Satan exists

99.999999999% cannot see that THIS LIFE - personal to us - being in the HERE AND NOW - defies all the odds - virtually PROVING that materialism is a dead snd - therefore they pursue gratification...

And the Sanhedrin sees to it that this gratification takes them closer and closer to Satan - the evil spirit that pervades the Earth

The teachings of Jesus are simple

Love one another

Do unto others as you would have done unto you

Do not place value in possessing but in giving

Put God (Good) above your own interest

How many here follow the above?

runciter
03-04-2010, 03:54 PM
Imagine to be Jewish for one moment. Thousands of years being hunted by non Jews. Always blamed for everything. Having family that had lost their lives in concentration camps. Always being attacked by people from all over the world calling your country Israehell.


adult jews should take a honest look at the religious tradition that built their "national" identity

rodin
03-04-2010, 03:54 PM
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-Holocaust-TheSixMillion&OtherNumbers/Numerology&TheologyOfThe6MillionNumber_files/JewsAgainstZionism.jpg

We will supply all oppositional movements - the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

rodin
03-04-2010, 04:00 PM
Have you talked with Israelis in a friendly manner about New World Order?

I have and my conclusion is they are super sheep like the rest of humanity.

I asked one Israeli about why they did not understand they are being fooled by an enemy posing as a friend(zionism) but stap them in their back.

He said"the victim is always the last to understand".

Imagine to be Jewish for one moment. Thousands of years being hunted by non Jews. Always blamed for everything. Having family that had lost their lives in concentration camps. Always being attacked by people from all over the world calling your country Israehell.

There comes a time when people get enough and then they isolate them selves among them selves and get very patriotic. We are living on a very unfriendly planet and everybody hate us. We need to be strong together. Israel we defend with our lives and we need to be strong so the enemies don't think we are weak and will mob against us.

This is how I believe they think and feel. I can't blame them. But they are being played out against others. Divide and conquer.

Did you know the Jews true mission is to create world peace. It is a heavy burden to be the chosen people of God. Wouldn't it be the best deception of all to make humanity hate the people of peace? Wouldn't that fit the agenda of Lucifer so he can create his loser empire of the bones lost in war.

Shalom(Peace)

The designer victim culture is very profitable and the Holocaust has been even better for them than 911. In fact 911 might well turn out to be the last jack straw that breaks the cattles' back.

Now when Jews start speaking up about the WHOLE hoax I am ready to move together

Who is ready this Easter to eschew materialism and deception and instead pursue honestly and true spirituality (which is pure, simple and requires no ritual)

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 04:08 PM
stop stealing their land and treating them like cattle, and see what happens



he was mind controlled via initiations and oaths like all masons, not exactly a free "intellect"




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2425121831_bb639583d8.jpg

As I said, the Palestinian people and Jews of the area lived in peace under the Ottoman rule, it wasn't until the British destabilized the region and removed Ottoman influence that the Palestine Muslims were given the Palestine Mandate, that wasn't more than 100years ago, so if the Muslims of Palestine don't want to live in peace in an Israeli democracy, why don't they move in with their Islamic brothers in Iran, Syria or Jordan?

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 04:19 PM
rodin,

See it like this:
http://www.uncommonheroes.us/images/bookcover2.gif

The founding fathers that stood up to the same force as we are faced with today. We are in the "end game" and everything in history has lead to where we are now. Either we win freedom or we will be slaves on our knees under world tyranny.

If you make a picture search for the word "patriots" then you can see the reason why we have tyranny.

As they said in Rome "PANEM ET CIRCENSES" (bread and circus) Give the public fastfood and entertainment and they care not what their taxes goes to.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SsEwz5IfUOI/AAAAAAAAJo4/6dsSSqFzYhg/s400/patriots.jpg

History often repeats is self:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Colosseum.jpg

http://www.thebrode.com/italy/gladiators.jpg
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/brady-and-morris.JPG
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2007/11/07/2012_olympic_stadium_large_470x370.jpg

The US has been turned into a new Nazi regime and goes into illegal wars, but that does not mean all Americans are fascists. Same goes with Israelis.

sentient being
03-04-2010, 04:35 PM
Here's a couple more legions::


The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
Part I
EXCLUSIVE TO RENSE.COM
By Eric Jewell
[email protected]
2-25-2

Part II

Eric Jewell will be Jeff's Guest, Thursday, March 14, 2002


The Bilderbergs.
The Trilateral Commission.
The Council of Foreign Relations.
The Central Intelligence Agency.

Most everyone has heard of these groups and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding them regarding the development of the 'New World Order.'

Now imagine for a moment there is something to this (and there appears to be no lack of documented material justifying these theories). That would mean that at almost every elevated level of business and government, world wide, men and women have infiltrated, become the controlling administrators and are working to effectively control every aspect of the life of the "world citizen."

One aspect of this that has not been properly searched out is the "religious" connection. Surely, given that much of the world is religious, and in the currently reigning SuperPower nation of the U.S., predominantly "Christian," then it would only make sense that these organizations have infiltrated the Church itself and are also actively leading it to into the New World Order as well.

Do the worlds leading Christian evangelicals have ties to these organizations?

Yes they do, and it is thoroughly documented.



Rev. Sun Myung Moon (The Moonies), and
the Unification Church
For those few of you who are not familiar with the Rev. Moon, in the 60s both he and his Unification Church were universally regarded as a dangerous cult. The abuse his followers suffered at the hands of their mind manipulating master is indeed very well established.

His claims include stating that Christ failed His mission, and that Moon himself is the "new messiah" who is come to fulfill the mission of God. He also claims that it is his mission to 'unite the world through uniting religious forces'. But would it shock you to know that nearly all the big name Christian evangelicals have extremely strong ties to him?

One such Church leader and internationally recognized evangelical Christian, Jerry Falwell, readily admits that he accepted 2.5 million dollars from Moon in 1994 in order to bail out his Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. This was funneled through a Moon organization known as the 'Womens Federation for World Peace' which has been chaired by Beverly LaHaye, Wife of Timothy LaHaye, who is the popular co-author of the "Left Behind" Christian fictional book series and a well known evangelical Christian. The Womens Federation for World Peace paid 3.5 million to the Christian Heritage Foundation, which in turn bought Falwell's $73 million debt, and then frankly wrote it off. The Heritage Foundation then seems to have paid themselves a fee of one million dollars for their trouble.

Since that time Falwell has spoken at many of Moons functions, embracing the cult-leader with unabashed reverence and friendship. Even writings from Moons' Church confirm Falwells comradeship with 'the new messiah' and his cult. Moon has even been a guest speaker in mainline denominational Churches in the past few years. Falwell further praised Rev. Moon calling him, "An unsung hero to the cause of freedom, who is to be commended for his determination and courage and endurance in support of his beliefs."[2]

According to official court records of a lawsuit that was filed in Bedford County Circuit Court (West Virginia), it was alleged that Falwell and an associate flew to South Korea, January 9, 1994 to meet with Unification Church officials. This trip came shortly before Falwell was awarded the Moon money. Falwell stated openly, "If the American Atheists Society or Saddam Hussein himself ever sent an unrestricted gift to any of my ministries, be assured I will operate on Billy Sunday's philosophy: The Devil's had it long enough, and quickly cash the check."[1]

Falwell is not the only evangelical reported to have accepted money from Rev. Moon. Other notable speakers for Moon's organizations and affairs receiving as much as $80,000 to $150,000 have included Ralph Reed, Beverly LaHaye, Gary Bauer, and Robert Schuller, well known for his "Crystal Cathedral" in Southern California and "Hour of Power" 'positive-thinking' television ministry.


The Council Of National Policy (CNP)
Another Moon sponsored organization is the Council of National Policy founded in 1981 by Tim LaHaye, the aforementioned co-author of the "Left Behind" book series. It is reported that he received $500,000 from a Mr. Bo Hi Pak, Moons #1 man, and a former Korean CIA officer. Though a tape exists showing that LaHaye thanked Pak for the money, LaHaye never denied the charge but verbally attacked the sources verifying the allegation with a barrage of insult.

Other members of the CNP have included:
Beverly and Lee LaHaye, also associated with Moons CWA group. Gary Bauer, Bill Bright, James Dobson (Focus On The Family), Bob Dugan, Ron Godwin, Robert Grant, Rebecca Hagelin, Bob Jones the 3rd (Bob Jones University), Alan Keyes (Outspoken ultra-conservative black talk show host and author), Dr. D. James Kennedy (noted television evangelist and Pastor), Peter Marshall, Sam Moore of Thomas Nelson Publishing, Pat Robertson (founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network and former Presidential aspirant), Rev. Duane Motley, Ralph Reed, Oliver North (formerly with the National Security Council), Phyllis Schlafly (ultra-right columnist and pundit), Rev. Jim Woodall, John Ankerberg (internationally recognized Christian television personality), Rev. E.V. Hill, James Robison, Jay Sekulow (Attorney and activist for ultra-right/Christian causes), Pat Boone, Larry Burkett, Reed Larson, and many others.

Some of the political leaders involved with the Moon sponsored CNP group include Senators Jesse Helms, Don Nickles, and Trent Lott. Also Representatives Tom DeLay, Dan Burton, and Bob Dornan.

Looking into some of the CNP officers we find not only a just a strong association with Moon, but also powerful ties with the CIA and the Council on Foreign Relations, not to mention association with high level Freemasonry for which many conspiracy theorists have more than a mere elementary knowledge related to the NWO. Another past President of CNP is Rich DeVoss, co-founder of Amway (and 33rd degree Mason).


Coalition For Religious Freedom (CRF)
Another past Moon organization was the 'Coalition for Religious Freedom' where again, Tim LaHaye held a paid position as Chairman. It was formed by LaHaye after Moon was arrested for tax evasion. Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, James Robison, James Kennedy and Rex Humbard, have all served as executive committee members. Other notables to serve in Moons CRF include Hal Lindsey (Author of "The Late Great Planet Earth"), Paul Crouch (Head of the Trinity Broadcasting Network), Dr. D. James Kennedy and Don Wildman to name a few.

CRF President Don Sills admits that CRF has received no less than $500,000 from Moon sources. In 1984, despite forces in government opposing the move, Moon was jailed for tax evasion (sentenced to 18 Months in prison and fined $25,000). In a CRF sponsored rally Tim Lahaye asked that people go to jail with Moon in protest. Kingpins In
The Unholy Alliance

Evangelists & Politicians


Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder, leader & self-proclaimed 'Messiah' to the Unification Church & the world.

Tim LaHaye, evangelist & Christian author of best-selling series "Left Behind."
Beverly LaHaye, wife of Tim LaHaye, author and spokesperson for several Moon funded "Christian" orgs
Paul Crouch, Founder and Chairman of Trinity Broadcasting Network, one of the largest tele-evangelical corporations

Bill Bright, Founder and head of the international evangelical association, 'Campus Crusades for Christ'

Robert Schuller, Pastor and Tele-evangelist from the famous 'Crystal Cathedral' in Southern California.

Rev. Billy Graham, recognized world-wide as one of the most influential evangelical preachers; author and syndicated religious columnist

Pat Robertson, Television Evangelist, Founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network & 700 Club anchor; founder of Operation Blessing; one time presidential candidate


Rev. James Kennedy, founder & pastor of Coral Ridge Ministries, outspoken television evangelist


Rev. James Robison, TV evangelist; Life Outreach International Ministries; associated with many Moon organizations

Ralph Reed, former director of the Christian Coalition and member of the conservative think-tank "Heritage Foundation"


Gary Bauer, Conservative politician and Executive Director of the Christian Coalition; unsuccessful Presidential candidate.

Dr. James Dobson, Pediatrician, author and publisher, head of Focus On The Family, a Christ-centric organization and magazine

Phyllis Schlafly, Christian political activist who says a woman's place is in the home... even though she's not

Jay Sekulow, Christian political activist and attorney involved in family values issues from abortion to parents rights




American Freedom Coalition
Led by Dr. Robert Grant and also a Moonie organization. In a period of a little over 2 years they received nearly 6 million dollars from Moon organizations and enterprises. This group includes Paul Crouch, Rex Humbard, James Robinson and many more, names well known among the evangelical Christian community.


Concerned Women of America
Headed by Beverly LaHaye. The wife of Tim LaHaye, She too has been a public speaker for Moon functions.



Womens Federation for World Peace
Also headed by Beverly LaHaye and recipient of Moon funding. Former President George Bush Sr. (and one time former CIA Director) received an undisclosed amount for speaking engagements from this organization and his fee is lost somewhere in the 13.5 million dollar conference expense-line according to IRS records.


Family Federation for World Peace
Another Moon organization which held a meeting in Washington in 1996. Among the speakers at this event were Beverly LaHaye and Ralph Reed. Over 1500 notables from around the world attended.



National Religious Broadcasters
Members include Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Tim LaHaye, Billy Graham, Bill Bright and many others clearly associated with Moon.


Pat Robertson in the early 80s, as Oliver North was trading guns and ammo (and who knows what else) in Nicaragua, was coordinating efforts to use "Operation Blessing" to help supply goods to the Contras. Allegedly these goods included hard cash and gasoline for Contra vehicles.


The head of Operation Blessing was Captain Robert Warren, who was also formerly associated with a CIA group called "Operation Phoenix." Allegedly this was an assassination group that operated in Vietnam. Also associated with this group was... surprise, Oliver North.


The Washington Times Foundation
A pro-Bush Inaugural luncheon, held in Washington D.C. was sponsored by the Washington Times Foundation, another Moon founded group. Among the attendees were Paul Crouch, founder of Trinity Broadcast Network, Robert Schuller, Kenneth Copeland, Jerry Falwell, Don Argue, past president of the National Association of Evangelicals, Pat Boone, a former T.B.N. board member, Billy McCormack (who was a Christian Coalition board member who actually presented Moon with an award) and Southern Baptist Convention President James Merritt.



Council of 56 of the Religious Roundtable
Another Moon associated group is called the 'Council of 56 of the Religious Roundtable'. This group is made up of many of the same members from Rev. Moons' CNP and CRF organizations. It marries leading Moon associated evangelicals to the CIA, the Council for Foreign relations, the Trilateral Commission and Freemasonry. CFR, and TLC are closely tied to the Bilderberg group.


The following list of members of the Council of 56 of the Religious Roundtable can be found here http://www.pir.org/gw/rrt.txt

GroupWatch was compiled by
The Interhemispheric Resource Center,
Box 4506,
Albuquerque, NM 87196.
http://www.irc-online.org/


GroupWatch files are available at http://www.pir.org/gw/Group:
Religious Roundtable File Name: rrt.txt
Last Updated: 4/93


Principles:
Members of the board of directors of the Roundtable were: Ed McAteer, founder and Pres; Jack Stewart, Vice Pres; Bob Amis, M.D.; John Beckett, Intercessors of America; Othal E. Brand; T. Cullen Davis; Nancy DeMoss; Rev. Del Fehsenfeld, Jr., LifeAction Ministries; Dr. E.V. Hill, pastor at Mt. Zion Baptist Church; Rev. Richard Hogue, Nelson Bunker Hunt, Dr. D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church; J.P. Mills; Dr. Paige Patterson, Criswell Center for Biblical Studies; Rev. James Robison, James Robison Evangelistic Association; D.G. Seago, Jr., Mid-Continent, Inc; and Dr. Charles F. Stanley, First Baptist Church of Atlanta.(2,11) In 1986, Dr. James Robison was Vice President and John Beckett was secretary/treasurer.(14) Former Michigan Congressman Mark Siljander has served on the Roundtable board.

Past members of the Council of 56 include:
Jack Amis, M.D.; Ben Armstrong, executive director of National Religious Broadcasters; Rev. Raymond W. Barber, Worth Baptist Church; John Beckett,Intercessors of America; Dr. George Benson, President emeritus of Harding College; Morton Blackwell, President of the Leadership Institute; Neal Blair, President of Free the Eagle; Tim Bobbit; Dick Bott, President of Bott Broadcasting; Dave Breese, President of Christian Destiny; Paul Broadhead; William Bronson; Rev. Fletcher Brothers, Gates Community Chapel; Judy Brown, American Life League; Dr. Roland Byrd; Dr. David E. Calvin, West Ridge Baptist Church; Clay Claiborne, executive director of the Black Silent Majority; Dr. E.M. Cohron; Dale Collins; W.A. Criswell, Criswell Center for Biblical Studies; Paul Crouch, President of Trinity Broadcasting Network; Mary Crowley; Dr. Paul Cunningham, pastor of Nazarene College Church; Dick Dingman, Republican Study Commission; Dr. Jerry Falwell, Moral Majority, Old Time Gospel Hour and Thomas Road Baptist Church; Rev. Charles Firoe, John Fisher,American Security Council; Charles Fitzgerald, director of Operation Lifeline; Ken Fonas, the Fonas Corporation; Richard Ford,Coordinated Consulting; Rev. Roger Fulton, Neighborhood Church of New York; Peter B. Gamma, Jr., National Pro-Life PAC; Ellen Garwood; General Daniel Graham, President of High Frontier; R.M.Goddard; Robert Grant, Christian Voice; Lloyd Hansen; Dr. Roy Harthern, Calvary Assembly; Richard Headrick; Senator Jesse Helms(R-NC); Steve Herring; Rev. Melvin Hodges, 1st Baptist Church of Glen Oakes; Don Howard, Accelerated Christian Education; Mildred Faye Jefferson, M.D.; Congressman James Jeffries; Representative Louis (Woody) Jenkins, Friends of the Americas; George B. Jones; Dan S. Kauffman; General George Keegan, Jr.; James Kennedy, pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church; Bill Keyes, Black PAC; General Albion Knight, Jr.; Beverly LaHaye, President Concerned Women for America; Dr. Tim LaHaye, Scott Memorial Baptist Church; Reed Larson, President of Right to Work; Larry Lea, pastor of Church on the Rock; Marian Maddox, Point of View Radio; Connie Marshner, President of the Family Coalition; Don McAlvany, President of the International Collectors Associates; Bob McCustion, chairman of Faith Ministries; Dr. William H. Marshner, chairman of the Department of Theology at Christendom College; Congressman Larry McDonald (deceased); Jay Menefee, Robert Metcalf; Dr. Bobby Moore, Broadway Baptist Church; Dr. Gary North, Christian Economics Foundation; Larry Parish; Paige Patterson, President of the Criswell Institute; Howard Phillips, The Conservative Caucus; Dr. William A. Powell, Sr., Editor of the Southern Baptist Journal; Randall R. Rader, deputy counsel to the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution; Dr. Ross Rhoads, Calvary Presbyterian Church; Bill Richardson, California State Senate; Bobby Richardson, Ben LippenSchool; Gary Richardson; Rev. Tom Riner; Phyllis Schlafly, President of the Eagle Forum; Earl Seall, White's Ferry Road Church of Christ; Cory SerVaas, editor and publisher of the Saturday Evening Post; Doug Shadoux, National Republican Party; William S.Smith; Scott Stanley, editor of Conservative Digest; Rev. George Swanson; Helen Marie Taylor, U.S. Representative to the United Nations; William Taylor; Bob Tilton, Bob Tilton Television Ministry; Michael Valerio; Bob Weiner, President of Maranatha Ministries; Paul Weyrich, President of the Free Congress Foundation; Earl E. Whitwell, Kim Wickes, Kim's Ministries; Don Wildmon, President of the National Federation for Decency; Rev.John Wilkerson, Bethel Temple; Rev. Ralph Wilkerson, Melodyland Church, J.C. Willke, M.D., President of National Right to Life, and Jack Wilson, executive director of the Council for National Policy.(2,12).

The following are a few shortened bios from the same source, associated with this Roundtable of 56...

Govt Connections:
Major General George J. Keegan, Jr. was the chief of the U.S. Air Defense Intelligence and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, worked for the CIA from 1963-1966
General Daniel Graham (ret.) During the Vietnam war from1967-1968 he was chief of the Army's military intelligence estimates. In 1971 Graham served as director of collections for the Defense Intelligence Agency, the pentagon's version of the CIA. In 1973 Graham served as a deputy to CIA Director William Colby and from 1974-1976 he was the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency

Groups belonging to the Roundtable include:
The Christian Broadcasting Network, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Moral Majority, Christian Voice,Church League of America, National Religious Broadcasters, Campus Crusade for Christ, Plymouth Rock Foundation, National Association of Evangelicals, Gideon Bible, Wycliffe Bible Associates, and Intercessors for America.(15) Ed McAteer was sales marketing manager for Colgate-Palmolive Company when he retired to become the national field director of the Christian Freedom Foundation (CFF), and organization devoted to training evangelicals for places of leadership in government. From there McAteer moved to the righting Conservative Caucus where he served as national field director until founding the Religious Roundtable.(1) He is or was a member of the board of the evangelical Wycliffe Bible Associates.


Unity: A One World Religion?
In light of the ties between nearly all Christian "evangelicals" with Rev. Moon, the CIA, the Council for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral commission, the Bush family and Bush Sr's "New World Order", is it any wonder that after the September 11th tragedy, Billy Graham prayed in the name of God, AND ALLAH, as dignitaries from many faiths were gathered before him? This prayer was broadcast the world over. His call was for religious cooperation and 'unity of all faiths,' the trump of Rev. Moon.

Franklin Graham's (son of world renowned evangelist Rev. Billy Graham, and heir to the very lucrative and influential Billy Graham Evangelistic Ministries) answer to a question by NBC's Tom Brokaw, ..."it's very important that all the faiths, all the denominations are coming together, cooperating together, working together; it is a wonderful testimony to the spirit of America, and the dedication of the American people."

Moon also owns the Washington Times, THE conservative voice of the nation. Though this establishment should have gone under several years ago, Moon pours multi-millions of dollars annually into this paper. He also owns the publication "Insight". He indeed owns many businesses and operates in media of several nations worldwide.

In Central America He is the owner of the "Tiempos del Mundo" (Times of the World), another leading news publication, making him the conservative voice there as well. In the early 1980s, Moon was shooting for the acclaim of all of Central and South America. He met political opposition from Carlos Menem, Argentinas President.

His rescue came in the form of one man. That man was George Bush Sr. former director of the CIA, former Vice President, and former President of the United States of America.

Bush was the principal speaker at the Sheraton Hotel at a Moon sponsored event, with 800 to 900 guests in attendance giving this manipulative operative remarkable credibility overnight. Bush declared enthusiastically; "...The editors of The Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington, D.C. I am convinced that Tiempos del Mundo is going to do the same thing."

Both George and Barbara Bush made several speeches in Asia in 1995. In Tokyo, Japan during one Moon rallying function, over 50,000 pro-Moon advocates were addressed by the two. This was sponsored by the Womens Federation for World peace.

It has also been speculated that Moon and Bush were seeking joint business ventures in South America.
An interesting fact is that despite over 30 years of allegations (from some U.S. government officials seemingly out of the loop) of Moons connections with the Korean CIA (and as we can now see the American counterpart as well) no steps have been taken to deport him, let alone prosecute him.


Conclusion
What do Rev. Moon, leading Christian evangelicals and the American government have in common? And, just what does this have to do with the "New World Order," as (re)coined by George Bush Sr.? There can be no doubt that these dark elements of government, industry, banking, and intelligence are leading us into their new world order, and their influence has been extended to nearly every Christian in the world through these leading evangelicals who claim to represent Christ. Perhaps this Rev. Moon quote from August 4th 1996 may give us a little more "insight"...

"Americans who continue to maintain their privacy and extreme individualism are foolish people... The world will reject Americans who continue to be so foolish. Once you have this great power of love, which is big enough to swallow entire America, there may be some individuals who complain inside your stomach. However, they will be digested."

Could this be the 'falling away' of the Church so often preached by these same evangelicals? The great 'apostasy' which will, in the last days render much of the Christian Church faithless to their original calling and subject to the manipulation, will and prophesied plans of the 'Antichrist'?



References:
[1] Falwell quote from Christianity Today Magazine
Christianity Today, February 9, 1998
'Moon-Related Funds Filter to Evangelicals'
by John W. Kennedy

[2] Moon's 'Christian Ecumenism in the America's Conference' in Montevideo, Uruguay.
http://www.thelionofjudah.org/rick/April99l~1.htm


Part II
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91181
03-04-2010, 04:56 PM
We will supply all oppositional movements - the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion



Writen by the Lucerferian priesthood of Babylon and continued through the ages via the great whore of Babylon the Catholic church and Freemasonry..:)


Mate , your own thread even points out the jews must be used in oder to fullfill the lucererian NWO..

biggles
03-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Humans calling themselves Jews Muslims and Christians have been deceived -but by the Pharisees - the Sanhedrin of Satan himself.

99.99% per cent cannot see that Satan exists

99.999999999% cannot see that THIS LIFE - personal to us - being in the HERE AND NOW - defies all the odds - virtually PROVING that materialism is a dead snd - therefore they pursue gratification...

And the Sanhedrin sees to it that this gratification takes them closer and closer to Satan - the evil spirit that pervades the Earth

The teachings of Jesus are simple

Love one another

Do unto others as you would have done unto you

Do not place value in possessing but in giving

Put God (Good) above your own interest

How many here follow the above?

Good post. The reality is that that really IS A SATAN and there really is a God.

Hidden in plain sight.

runciter
03-04-2010, 04:57 PM
As I said, the Palestinian people and Jews of the area lived in peace under the Ottoman rule, it wasn't until the British destabilized the region and removed Ottoman influence that the Palestine Muslims were given the Palestine Mandate, that wasn't more than 100years ago, so if the Muslims of Palestine don't want to live in peace in an Israeli democracy, why don't they move in with their Islamic brothers in Iran, Syria or Jordan?

don't you think the israelis should stop stealing palestinian land and treating people like cattle?

or you think the khazars have a right to kick palestinian semites out of their land? on what grounds? :)

as far as i know, the ottoman empire was destroyed by the young turks, who were sabbatean crypto-jews

anyway, british policies were obviously influenced by rothschild interests

91181
03-04-2010, 05:06 PM
don't you think the israelis should stop stealing palestinian land and treating people like cattle?

or you think the khazars have a right to kick palestinian semites out of their land? on what grounds? :)

as far as i know, the ottoman empire was destroyed by the young turks, who were sabbatean crypto-jews

anyway, british policies were obviously influenced by rothschild interests


And the Rothchilds were knights of Malta taking orders from the pope and his lucerferian religion... THE original whore of Babylon..

CLEARLY YOU CAN SEE THE KNIGHT OF MALTA BADGE, ITS NOT THERE FOR FUN YOU KNOW..

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh123/quintessenz/MayerCarlvonRothschild.jpg

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 05:13 PM
Just think for a moment the world is run by Lucifer and his demons. They possess people and get them in power where they control power centers of the world. They work long term over many hundred or thousands of years.

They create chaos out of order because it gives them power! Chaos needs a solution that will steal more of our freedom till we don't have any freedom left and become obedient slaves of the leader of New World order (Lucifer)

Lucifer needs agents working for him to carry out his agenda. This is where the secret societies come in. Those that are tempted to the dark side will get more power in the society and placed in power centers of the world.

He playes everybody out against each other. Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Westerners etc. so they are busy fighting each other than getting together and fight the real enemy. Talk with Jews/Israelis. They are SHEEP!

We are all being manipulated because we allow it out of ignorance. If we focus on the wrong enemies then we will run around in a maze being a tool of Lucifer.

runciter
03-04-2010, 05:14 PM
And the Rothchilds were knights of Malta taking orders from the pope and his lucerferian religion...

no, in my reality the rothschilds are the most powerful jewish family, and play a messianic role (king of the jews)

the pope takes orders from the rothschilds, and is helping them to destroy the church

freedom1st
03-04-2010, 05:17 PM
no, in my reality the rothschilds are the most powerful jewish family, and play a messianic role (king of the jews)

the pope takes orders from the rothschilds, and is helping them to destroy the church

And who gives orders to the Rothschilds?

runciter
03-04-2010, 05:17 PM
Just think for a moment the world is run by Lucifer and his demons. They possess people and get them in power where they control power centers of the world. They work long term over many hundred or thousands of years.

They create chaos out of order because it gives them power! Chaos needs a solution that will steal more of our freedom till we don't have any freedom left and become obedient slaves of the leader of New World order (Lucifer)

Lucifer needs agents working for him to carry out his agenda. This is where the secret societies come in. Those that are tempted to the dark side will get more power in the society and placed in power centers of the world.

He play everybody out against each other. Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Westerners etc. so they are busy fighting each other than getting together and fight the real enemy.

We are all being manipulated because we allow it out of ignorance. If we focus on the wrong enemies then we will run around in a maze being a tool of Lucifer.

i think there's some truth in the possession thing, an inhuman force is probably driving some people

but what is happening isn't much different from what yahweh ordered to the jews in the old testament

runciter
03-04-2010, 05:19 PM
And who gives orders to the Rothschilds?

they don't look like possessed people, they are more likely lucifer incarnate

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 05:24 PM
they don't look like possessed people, they are more likely lucifer incarnate

I have communicated with a pro new world order Rothschild. I felt the person was demon possessed. I have also tried to be demon possessed and it feels like all my emotions was boosted with anger and hate but I was still the same.

Kicked it out by sending it true love(God).

Those that fear demons or Lucifer don't know the power of True love(God) They run like rats.

nayan
03-04-2010, 05:34 PM
let me get this straight, so this book 'The Legion of Satan' is known to hold the truth about what the elite plans to do in the future? and the book did exist but there are very few copies left?

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 05:35 PM
The European nobilities do not swear oaths of fealty to Rothschilds more the other way around, Rothschilds have been and are agents of the British monarchy and Vatican interests +their own interests, but not as long as other families have been creating the game the Rothschilds are pretty good at playing.

It serves also to fuel anti-jewish hatred, thereby deflecting the scrutiny of the masses towards this small religious sect-Jews, and away from the massive institutions of Power such as the Vatican, and various Anglo American globalist organisations ie Pilgrims society, 1001 club, SMOM, CFR, Trilateral commission etc.

The British and more so the Vatican now with the Oslo Accords bestowing rights to the PA, are going to eventually use the dialectic in Israel to bring in UN peace keeping forces

The Memoirs of Mr. Hempher
http://www.sunna.info/antiwahabies/wahhabies/htm/spy1.htm
The document is a first-hand account by Hempher of his mission for his government, which sent him to the Middle East to discover ways to undermine the Ottoman Empire. Among the vices the British were to promote were racism and nationalism, alcohol, gambling, fornication and tempting Muslim women to uncover themselves.

Hempher says:

Our Great Britain is very vast. The sun rises over its seas, and sets, again, below its seas. Our State is relatively weak yet in its colonies in India, China and Middle East. These countries are not entirely under our domination. However, we have been carrying on a very active and successful policy in these places. We shall be in full possession of all of them very soon. Two things are of importance:

1- To try to retain the places we have already obtained;

2- To try to take possession of those places we have not obtained yet.

The Ministry of Colonies assigned a commission from each of the colonies for the execution of these two tasks. As soon as I entered the Ministry of Colonies, the Minister put his trust in me and appointed me the administrator of the company of East India. Outwardly it was a company of trade. But its real task was to search for ways of taking control of the very vast lands of India.

And they will do it time and time again by creating warring factions of people manipulated by their agents:

IQRAA, the station's part-owner, Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, contributed $27 million to a government-organized telethon in Saudi Arabia that raised $109 million for the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Saudi King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdallah each contributed $1 million, with their wives kicking in separate checks of close to $1 million. The official story was that the money was intended for the families of Palestinian "martyrs" and to rebuild infrastructure in the West Bank and Gaza that had been destroyed during Israel's antiterror campaign. But as documents seized by the Israelis at numerous "charities" and government offices throughout the West Bank over the past two years show clearly, money paid by Saudi Arabia and Saddam Hussein's Iraq was considered as "blood money." It was used by Hamas as an enticement to murder by providing a guaranteed income to the families of the murderers.

The telethon was hosted by a prominent Saudi-government cleric named Sheikh Saad al-Buraik, who took the opportunity of the live television coverage to harangue an audience at a Riyadh mosque against America, Christians and Jews. "I am against America until this life ends, until the Day of Judgment," he proclaimed on April 11, 2002. "I am against America even if the stone liquefies. My hatred of America, if part of it was contained in the universe, it would collapse. She is the root of all evils and wickedness on Earth. ... Oh Muslim Ummah, don't take the Jews and Christians as allies. ... Muslim Brothers in Palestine, do not have any mercy, neither compassion on the Jews, their blood, their money, their flesh. Their women are yours to take, legitimately. God made them yours. Why don't you enslave their women? Why don't you wage jihad? Why don't you pillage them?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1009661/posts

rodin
03-04-2010, 05:47 PM
let me get this straight, so this book 'The Legion of Satan' is known to hold the truth about what the elite plans to do in the future? and the book did exist but there are very few copies left?

It seems very possible this is true. I got caught out today - it was listed on filesharing sites - so I paid up and get offered Jew porn instead. Needless to say I cancelled immediately :mad:

I will name and shame l8r

People have been on a mission to get this with no success so far it seems

runciter
03-04-2010, 05:52 PM
The European nobilities do not swear oaths of fealty to Rothschilds more the other way around, Rothschilds have been and are agents of the British monarchy and Vatican interests +their own interests, but not as long as other families have been creating the game the Rothschilds are pretty good at playing.

oaths aren't needed whan you can control everyone and everything through money

we know all about jewish pride, they are the no 1 jewish family, nobody can rule over them

they did with the royals and the vatican what zionist agents do with western governments > hijack

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 05:53 PM
It seems very possible this is true. I got caught out today - it was listed on filesharing sites - so I paid up and get offered Jew porn instead. Needless to say I cancelled immediately :mad:

I will name and shame l8r

People have been on a mission to get this with no success so far it seems

Maybe disinformation to create a false enemy. The more we run around in the maze and attack other sheep the stronger Lucifer and his empire gets. Wouldn't you create allot of confusion if you were him?

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 05:54 PM
oaths aren't needed whan you can control everyone and everything through money

we know all about jewish pride, they are the no 1 jewish family, nobody can rule over them

they did with the royals and the vatican what zionist agents do with western governments > hijack

What about the rockefeller? Rockefeller vs. Rothschild.

rodin
03-04-2010, 05:54 PM
rodin,

The founding fathers that stood up to the same force as we are faced with today. We are in the "end game" and everything in history has lead to where we are now. Either we win freedom or we will be slaves on our knees under world tyranny.

If you make a picture search for the word "patriots" then you can see the reason why we have tyranny.

As they said in Rome "PANEM ET CIRCENSES" (bread and circus) Give the public fastfood and entertainment and they care not what their taxes goes to.

The US has been turned into a new Nazi regime and goes into illegal wars, but that does not mean all Americans are fascists. Same goes with Israelis.

The US is a Jewish empire - you have to be blind not to see this

More than half the males are circumcised FFS

In Rome Popeae was a Jewish prostitute like Esther who got into bed with Nero. Then the real Christians suffered every abomination until they were almost wiped out and the Jews invented Catholic church with its confessions (blackmail) and 'second coming' (like the resurrection wasn't it) wrote the Jew Bible named the head of this false flag church after their heroine.

See my sig - Jews did 911 of that there is no doubt at all

runciter
03-04-2010, 06:01 PM
I have communicated with a pro new world order Rothschild. I felt the person was demon possessed. I have also tried to be demon possessed and it feels like all my emotions was boosted with anger and hate but I was still the same.

Kicked it out by sending it true love(God).

Those that fear demons or Lucifer don't know the power of True love(God) They run like rats.

the inner core of the family may be for lucifer/satan what jesus was for god, according to the tradition

i don't mean literally, i don't believe in a personal god, but an amoral avatar is a possibility i wouldn't discard

don't they call themselves illuminati? buddha's illumination was a physical process in the first place

Mo0n5tar
03-04-2010, 06:04 PM
What about the rockefeller? Rockefeller vs. Rothschild.

1001 Club and WWF

http://www.isgp.eu/organisations/1001_club/1001_Clubbers_David_Rockefeller_Edmund_de_Rothschi ld_and_Maurice_Strong.jpg
1001 Club members David Rockefeller, Edmund de Rothschild, and Maurice Strong (not to mention James Baker III) already promoted an agenda in the 1980s that their associate Al Gore only really put on the map in 2006 with his film 'An Inconvenient Truth'. At these early meetings, Strong introduced Edmund the Rothschild as the founder of the "conservation banking" program. The audio recordings are hard to dispute, but let's hope the document produced by George Hunt in which these people describe using the United Nations to take over the world is not true. (see old introduction article for details) The Gore family has intermarried with the Schiff family of The Pilgrims and the Wildlife Conservation Society. Gore's closest ally in his global warming campaign is Theodore Roosevelt IV, another establishment family whose members for decades have been top-level CIA officers and in one case an anti-Establishment (disinformation) propagandist. Family members also were great fascist appeasers who supported the overthrow of FDR in favor of a more "right wing" government (see Pilgrims Society article for the details). You can find this latest Theodore Roosevelt in such organizations as the Alliance for Climate Protection (vice chair under Gore), the Pew Center for Global Climate Change (chairman), the World Resources Institute, and the Wilderness Society. Maurice Strong is also still very active today. He is chairman of the Earth Council Alliance and sits on the board of the Chicago Climate Exchange, a CO2 trading scheme.
http://www.isgp.eu/organisations/1001_Club.htm
http://www.isgp.eu/organisations/1001_Club.htm

runciter
03-04-2010, 06:07 PM
What about the rockefeller? Rockefeller vs. Rothschild.

they seem to work in perfect harmony, the rockefellers are usually more visible

my basic point is that banking gives you the ultimate power, energetic resources come second

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 06:24 PM
the inner core of the family may be for lucifer/satan what jesus was for god, according to the tradition

i don't mean literally, i don't believe in a personal god, but an amoral avatar is a possibility i wouldn't discard

don't they call themselves illuminati? buddha's illumination was a physical process in the first place
What if they are just possessed by demons? I did not have a feeling I talked with some higher being next to Lucifer. More like a person brainwashed with a beliefsystem and trapped by something.

radio illuminati
03-04-2010, 06:25 PM
they seem to work in perfect harmony, the rockefellers are usually more visible

my basic point is that banking gives you the ultimate power, energetic resources come second

They fight among them selves. Battle for power.

michael christopher
03-04-2010, 06:29 PM
I think Rodin seems like the type of person who would want a Holy war.

People who talk about Holy wars and race wars as "inevitable" have itchy trigger fingers if you ask me.

nayan
03-04-2010, 06:54 PM
It seems very possible this is true. I got caught out today - it was listed on filesharing sites - so I paid up and get offered Jew porn instead. Needless to say I cancelled immediately :mad:

I will name and shame l8r

People have been on a mission to get this with no success so far it seems

argh :mad: it must be very hard to find this book.

1977
03-04-2010, 09:53 PM
what pike was led to believe isn't necessarily true, i think masonry is controlled by the bankers
International bankers funded Anti-Masonic propaganda in order to dethrone Freemason Andrew Jackson's party, which had killed the Bank of the United States.

one of history's little ironies

rodin
03-04-2010, 11:59 PM
argh :mad: it must be very hard to find this book.

Harder than than finding rocking horse shit

rodin
04-04-2010, 12:03 AM
What if they are just possessed by demons? I did not have a feeling I talked with some higher being next to Lucifer. More like a person brainwashed with a beliefsystem and trapped by something.

I agree with you regarding the so-called supernatural

http://radioilluminati.com/

mostly correct but Alex Jones no matter how credible sounding has fatal flaws

rodin
04-04-2010, 12:07 AM
Ok I have had a few glasses of wine, given hope (and I hope truth) to a nonagenarian with apparently nothing to live for...

Time to yield to sleep

rodin
04-04-2010, 12:10 AM
I think Rodin seems like the type of person who would want a Holy war.

People who talk about Holy wars and race wars as "inevitable" have itchy trigger fingers if you ask me.

You think not what I suggest - not a war but an awakening

wonderfullife
04-04-2010, 01:33 AM
The dark side declared the war not the Light side well that is my belief.
We are in a spiritual war one we cannot always see but we most certainly feel it in our physical bodies.
There is no point in fighting the spiritual war with the same psychology as the attacker i.e destroy but with LOVE and in a sense this will destroy the attacker i.e the dark side.
Maybe calling it a war is too strong but the dark side is quite powerful and feeds off all negativity and hatred and in my book that means war.

runciter
04-04-2010, 09:14 AM
What if they are just possessed by demons? I did not have a feeling I talked with some higher being next to Lucifer. More like a person brainwashed with a beliefsystem and trapped by something.

did you talk to evelyn? to one of the family bosses?

and it makes no difference anyway

every human being is individually responsible for his/her actions and decisions

the rothschilds are human beings, and the greatest mass murderers in human history (not all of them, of course)

there is no special law for special people, this demon thing is a distraction from my point of view

runciter
04-04-2010, 09:17 AM
They fight among them selves. Battle for power.

no trace of this supposed fight between rothschilds and rockefellers, to my knowledge

nayan
04-04-2010, 10:07 AM
Harder than than finding rocking horse shit

yeah, i mean, it must be a very sacred book, knowing that the elite are trying very hard to hide it.

still not giving up looking for it. have you ever heard a book called 'church of satan'? always wondered what that book is about.

1977
04-04-2010, 11:24 AM
Washington was a Freemason and crypto-Catholic, Hamilton was a crypto-Jew, and Jefferson was a crypto-Illuminist. It's like fuckin' Conspiracy Choose Your Own Adventure here, you can really just take your pick

runciter
04-04-2010, 11:24 AM
International bankers funded Anti-Masonic propaganda in order to dethrone Freemason Andrew Jackson's party, which had killed the Bank of the United States.

one of history's little ironies

it was jackson vs the bankers, with masonry caught in the middle, i suppose

& i don't think they would mind crushing masonry when it's no longer a useful tool

for now, it seems to be a zionist-friendly institution, that's helping advance their plans