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zyphus
17-12-2009, 10:52 PM
Basically..

http://www.projectpegasus.net/images/andrew_d_basiago.jpg

The team leader of Project Pegasus, Andrew D. Basiago, 48, is a lawyer, writer, and 21st century visionary.

Andy is an emerging figure in the Disclosure Movement, who is leading a campaign to lobby the United States government to disclose such controversial truths as the fact that Mars harbors life and that the United States has achieved "quantum access" to past and future events.
http://www.projectpegasus.net/andrew_d_basiago

He has so far only done radio interviews, and the few that I could find were with Red Ice, George Noory and Jessica Mystic. :rolleyes:

His 'mission statement' reads


Project Pegasus is a quest.

Project Pegasus was begun in 1968 by Andrew D. Basiago, when he was serving as a child participant in the US time-space exploration program, Project Pegasus.

Andy, a lawyer in private practice in Washington, was the first American child to teleport and one of America’s early time-space explorers, as told in his soon-to-be-published book, Once Upon a Time in Time’s Stream: My Adventures in Project Pegasus at the Dawn of the Time-Space Age.

Andy serves as Team Leader of Project Pegasus.

The mission of Project Pegasus is to lead the legal and political campaign to urge the US government to disclose its teleportation capability, so that this life-advantaging technology can be used by humanity to achieve planetary sustainability.

Although you can read his whole biography and quite easily determine who he is (If he's telling the truth) he's obviously very camera shy as I have been able to find absolutely no videos of him what so ever. There is also only one black and white photo of him that I could find. Also his biography looks like something that would fit in nicely with Project Camelot and virtually mirrors some of the things that Henry Deacon, Richard Hoagland and David Wilcock are saying. Two out of those three being fully in cahoots with PC, along with Hoagland and Wilcock being fully in cahoots with each other. I also find it a bit odd that a man of his apparent qualifications and standing chose to be interviewed by Jessica '26 year old crystal child' Mystic a.k.a. Jessica Schab over a period of at least two hours. Jessica has also been promoted by PC.

So apparently this man absolutely exists according to his biography, and if you wanted to trace him down physically, you could very easily. So why the secrecy and un-willingness to be in front of a camera?

Basiago also sounds unbelievably like Wilcock. So much so that it is uncanny and quite spooky, albeit that Basiagos' voice is slightly deeper. Or is it a semi-tone or two down?

http://www.spycatcheronline.co.uk/voice-changer-p-175.html?spyid=049077d8881aceca03b4188731d3cc16

Here is the first of 39 parts of the interview between Schab and Basiago. She claims to have actually met him in the flesh when they were both doing a presentation at some ranch somewhere. If this Basiago character is absolutely real, then it is the first time that I would've taken 'mystic' seriously..

Part 1/39 A Conversation with Andrew D. Basiago Part 1/24 - YouTube

tinyint
17-12-2009, 10:57 PM
Very interesting that, thank you :)

Quantum access fits well into JP Ferrell's and I.Witkowski's research into 'The Bell' also on PC.

Pegasus? I instantly think of SGA's Pegasus Galaxy :D;)

zyphus
18-12-2009, 10:35 AM
Very interesting that, thank you :)

Quantum access fits well into JP Ferrell's and I.Witkowski's research into 'The Bell' also on PC.

Pegasus? I instantly think of SGA's Pegasus Galaxy :D;)

Although I don't doubt that these experiments that many claim may have taken place, I'm just a bit suspicious of this one. It smells far too much like a certain group that is quite well know for this genre of information.

Maybe I'm reading way too much into it..

tinyint
18-12-2009, 11:19 AM
Although I don't doubt that these experiments that many claim may have taken place, I'm just a bit suspicious of this one. It smells far too much like a certain group that is quite well know for this genre of information.

Maybe I'm reading way too much into it..

Actually, the whole topic just came to rebirth. PC just cleverly picked it up as well, on their mission to sell partly the truth mixed with disinfo.
I can assure you, claims made in Farrells and Witkowski's books are just the tip of the iceberg, as rumored here all the years since the end of WWII. The national security state within USA is a direct consequence.
I grew up near such places where supposedly the crafts have been manufactured as well as the german atomic bombs were captured and later thrown on japan. You would not believe some stories...

zyphus
18-12-2009, 11:47 AM
Actually, the whole topic just came to rebirth. PC just cleverly picked it up as well, on their mission to sell partly the truth mixed with disinfo.

And that's why I'm deeply sceptical with Basiago. The similarities between Basiagos' story, Project Camelot, Wilcock, Hoagland and 'Henry Deacon' are incredible. Also, the similarities between Basiagos' and Wilcocks' voice are just plain spooky. Add that to the fact that a man in such apparent high standing academically chose another Camelot groupy, Jessica Mystic, to interview him, and you have a strange little recipe in my opinion.

The words 'Whistle Blower' 'Disclosure' and 'Mission Statement' feature heavily within Project Camelot and Project Pegasus also.

I can assure you, claims made in Farrells and Witkowski's books are just the tip of the iceberg, as rumored here all the years since the end of WWII. The national security state within USA is a direct consequence.
I grew up near such places where supposedly the crafts have been manufactured as well as the german atomic bombs were captured and later thrown on japan. You would not believe some stories...

I've not read their books, but I just found Farrells' 'Bell' book and I'm tempted to get it. I have absolutely no doubt that technology has been developed away from prying eyes for a good long time now. Technology we could barely imagine to exist at times. But Basiago? I'm suspicious..

tinyint
18-12-2009, 11:55 AM
And that's why I'm deeply sceptical with Basiago. The similarities between Basiagos' story, Project Camelot, Wilcock, Hoagland and 'Henry Deacon' are incredible. Also, the similarities between Basiagos' and Wilcocks' voice are just plain spooky. Add that to the fact that a man in such apparent high standing academically chose another Camelot groupy, Jessica Mystic, to interview him, and you have a strange little recipe in my opinion.

The words 'Whistle Blower' 'Disclosure' and 'Mission Statement' feature heavily within Project Camelot and Project Pegasus also.



I've not read their books, but I just found Farrells' 'Bell' book and I'm tempted to get it. I have absolutely no doubt that technology has been developed away from prying eyes for a good long time now. Technology we could barely imagine to exist at times. But Basiago? I'm suspicious..


Yes, I agree what you wrote about PC.
I didn't know Basagio, but I heard the name sometimes in a other context... I can't remember right now.
But there is something behind the PC thingy, since the also only have same source of information.
Visit this ufohypotheses (http://www.youtube.com/user/ufohypotheses) and you'll see where PC dug out all the wistleblowers.

There is an agenda behind PC, to make the "truth" more believable, since the real truth is not so believable for many people, nothing to do with that many ET ;)

zyphus
18-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Yes, I agree what you wrote about PC.
I didn't know Basagio, but I heard the name sometimes in a other context... I can't remember right now.
But there is something behind the PC thingy, since the also only have same source of information.
Visit this ufohypotheses (http://www.youtube.com/user/ufohypotheses) and you'll see where PC dug out all the wistleblowers.

The ufohypotheses link is quite interesting, but I'm not sure if they were there before Camelot on some of the interviews. That's of little importance, or have you got another slant on it?

There is an agenda behind PC, to make the "truth" more believable, since the real truth is not so believable for many people, nothing to do with that many ET ;)

An agenda? You're too kind :D

I might be making all of the wrong links here, and I am a bit sleepy at the moment, but this whole Project Pegasus business looks like it could be a Camelot front. There are far too many similarities here. Project Camelot have lost virtually all of their credibility, and now over the last year or so, this 'well informed' highly educated lawyer begins to come to the fore basically mirroring what the Camelot 'crew' are and have been pushing out.

Something does not sit right one bit..

tinyint
18-12-2009, 12:34 PM
The ufohypotheses link is quite interesting, but I'm not sure if they were there before Camelot on some of the interviews. That's of little importance, or have you got another slant on it?



An agenda? You're too kind :D

I might be making all of the wrong links here, and I am a bit sleepy at the moment, but this whole Project Pegasus business looks like it could be a Camelot front. There are far too many similarities here. Project Camelot have lost virtually all of their credibility, and now over the last year or so, this 'well informed' highly educated lawyer begins to come to the fore basically mirroring what the Camelot 'crew' are and have been pushing out.

Something does not sit right one bit..

Some of the interviews have been made in the 80ies... I doubt PC was around then.
I just wanted to make the point, that these claims fit together with quite convincing oral tradition here.
PC have obviously been successful in destroying credibility of the facts but promoting BS whistleblowers/actors.

zyphus
18-12-2009, 01:44 PM
Some of the interviews have been made in the 80ies... I doubt PC was around then.

Oh o.k.. I just went on when they were uploaded. PC have only been around for a few years with their 'cutting edge' material

I just wanted to make the point, that these claims fit together with quite convincing oral tradition here.
PC have obviously been successful in destroying credibility of the facts but promoting BS whistleblowers/actors.

Do you think it's beyond the realms of possibility that PC would do such a thing?

tinyint
18-12-2009, 01:52 PM
Do you think it's beyond the realms of possibility that PC would do such a thing?

No, since there seem to be people in the US who want to disclose the facts for years, but have been silenced, you know...
The problem these people have is more the public, since the public have been told constant lies about WWII, Cold War and recent history.
Simple fact is, WWII has never really been ended. Hence all the lies with UFO, ET, National Security and so on... they just do not know how to tell the truth, since generations have been conditioned worldwide, sort of dilemma.
That is where eg PC comes into play, to get some truth out, and to have to opportunity at hand to swear in the public into war at (fake) ET.
Saying that, I don't necessarily think, all UFO are earth technology.

zyphus
18-12-2009, 03:04 PM
No, since there seem to be people in the US who want to disclose the facts for years, but have been silenced, you know...


I mostly agree with the rest of what you said, so I snipped it.

Are you saying that if it were so, that Project Pegasus is a front of Project Camelot, that they are justified in their actions because of the suppression of information over the years regarding non human lifeforms and super technology?

tinyint
18-12-2009, 03:43 PM
I mostly agree with the rest of what you said, so I snipped it.

Are you saying that if it were so, that Project Pegasus is a front of Project Camelot, that they are justified in their actions because of the suppression of information over the years regarding non human lifeforms and super technology?

No, not really. I am pleading for total and full truth for all people, that all can benefit from the +60 years hidden technologies.
But you raised an interesting question, I have no final answer yet, only a hand full of possibilities.

I was just gonna underline their motives in creating ET hype, while Joseph Farrell and Hoagland almost go unnoticed and suffer from bad reputation.

I think it is the public front of some efforts within the US shadow gov or Black Project world.
However, PC must obey their rules to stay alive and carry on.
I am not sure if they are knowingly spread and incorporate disinfo, but I tend to think they do with Bill Deagle, Peterson, Burisch etc... even though these guys still transport some truth.

The question is, who are the so called 'white hats'?
I have my very own theories to that.
Basically, I followed a completely different trail for almost 15 years now and then came across PC half a year ago. A lot of PC stuff simply matches, if you probably know what really happened to Nazi technology and WWII events not told.

Would you be shocked, if you were told some nazis made it in 1944 to the moon? A lot of disc shaped craft have black cross or swastika insignia? Some Nazis probably escaped to Andromeda?
They have infiltrated USA and seemlesly continued the projects there? Probably a split up 'nazi' faction is still at war with almost all western countries occupying the moon and mars?
That force will probably back in some time soon?
Sounds fantastic, huh?

zyphus
18-12-2009, 04:56 PM
I was just gonna underline their motives in creating ET hype, while Joseph Farrell and Hoagland almost go unnoticed and suffer from bad reputation.

I'm not too familiar with Farrell, but I don't think Hoagland has done himself many favours.

I think it is the public front of some efforts within the US shadow gov or Black Project world.
However, PC must obey their rules to stay alive and carry on.
I am not sure if they are knowingly spread and incorporate disinfo, but I tend to think they do with Bill Deagle, Peterson, Burisch etc... even though these guys still transport some truth.

They claim to be absolutely independent and to have no affiliation or influence with or for any one person or organisation, yet Bill Ryan is a scientologist.

If they are a public front for the U.S. shadow government or a Black Ops project, then surely they are spreading dis-info by default.
I'm not sure if they are spreading dis-info on purpose, but they seem to be the mis-info specialists right now.

The question is, who are the so called 'white hats'?
I have my very own theories to that.
Basically, I followed a completely different trail for almost 15 years now and then came across PC half a year ago. A lot of PC stuff simply matches, if you probably know what really happened to Nazi technology and WWII events not told.

It's got to the point where I don't think there is one mainstream white hat. And although I find the odd nugget even with people I dis-agree with, I find a lot of the information being put out by these groups completely ego orientated and are desperate to be 'right' so they can turn round and say 'I told you so'..

Would you be shocked, if you were told some nazis made it in 1944 to the moon? A lot of disc shaped craft have black cross or swastika insignia? Some Nazis probably escaped to Andromeda?
They have infiltrated USA and seemlesly continued the projects there? Probably a split up 'nazi' faction is still at war with almost all western countries occupying the moon and mars?
That force will probably back in some time soon?
Sounds fantastic, huh?

I wouldn't be shocked at all, but I haven't read enough into it to be able to form a decent discussion.

tinyint
18-12-2009, 09:48 PM
I agree with you. That is what I am trying to say. They also decode the truth, filter it, wrap it up ego driven and sell it popcorn friendly to the people, leaving the masterminds behind all options on table to act but not react.
I guess that is the way it is supposed to lead to some sort of "disclosure" which already needs a disclosure after disclosure.
In my opinion it is interesting to watch the drama being played out on PC. Sort of Black Projects Soap Opera with a very real historic background all pointing to WWII.

romas
19-12-2009, 02:03 AM
Um, I have to ask why they use what seems very old black and white photo of the guy? The voice doesn't sound as old and yeah very simmilar to their other goofy guy Wilcoc.
The claims were also to far out there imo.

PC has some interesting stuff, but a lot of it is so goofy it's hard to believe they are an agenda, looks more like 50% of the stories are plain "bedtime stories" which is when i usualy watch them :)

morphal
19-12-2009, 02:12 AM
I remember when this Jessica Mystic 39 part youtube interview came out and the link was posted here, I checked it out, and quite a bit of the info seemed legit - but that's the problem with spook stuff. I'm not saying it is, just that - it could be.

In the comments below the later parts of the interview at that time, I saw over a few of the parts a user who kept accusing Basiago of being Wilcox. I thought that was odd and picked up on that in this thread also. Someone should track down this practising lawyer Basiago - I don't think it could be possible that he's Wilcox and wonder why someone would be so intent on this, if Basiago is a public person in Seattle. Even a little web research should turn him up if he is who he says he is.

zyphus
02-01-2010, 03:24 PM
Um, I have to ask why they use what seems very old black and white photo of the guy? The voice doesn't sound as old and yeah very simmilar to their other goofy guy Wilcoc.
The claims were also to far out there imo.

PC has some interesting stuff, but a lot of it is so goofy it's hard to believe they are an agenda, looks more like 50% of the stories are plain "bedtime stories" which is when i usualy watch them :)

I still haven't managed to find any other picture of Basiago and no video interviews either. If they do surface then I will eat my words.

I even ripped the audio from parts of the youtube videos and tuned them up a semi-tone or two, and the similarities are just startling.

zyphus
02-01-2010, 03:30 PM
In the comments below the later parts of the interview at that time, I saw over a few of the parts a user who kept accusing Basiago of being Wilcox. I thought that was odd and picked up on that in this thread also. Someone should track down this practising lawyer Basiago - I don't think it could be possible that he's Wilcox and wonder why someone would be so intent on this, if Basiago is a public person in Seattle. Even a little web research should turn him up if he is who he says he is.

I just stumbled on people claiming that Basiago was Wilcock by accident. I then went to the Project Pegasus site, and found more similarities in the message that Project Camelot are 'pushing' out. Mission statement, disclosure and whistle blower are the main keywords on both sites. Add that to the fact that Kerry Cassidy proclaims Wilcock to be a 'stellar individual' and there has to be a few raised eyebrows over the whole thing.

And you're right. If this Basiago character is a public person, a lawyer working in Washington DC, then it shouldn't be too hard to dismiss my 'theory'.

Time will tell..

elton
02-01-2010, 04:55 PM
A bit of googling will quickly establish that he is a fake.....

http://ufotabloid.blogspot.com/2009/09/andrew-basiago-no-to-fatima-yes-to-life.html


"Beings in blue bodysuits" eh.

Wake up suckers.

zyphus
02-01-2010, 05:08 PM
A bit of googling will quickly establish that he is a fake.....

http://ufotabloid.blogspot.com/2009/09/andrew-basiago-no-to-fatima-yes-to-life.html


"Beings in blue bodysuits" eh.

Wake up suckers.

It's plainly obvious that 'he' is pushing an agenda and if you'd taken the time out to read the thread, then you will see that's what has been said. What is trying to be established here, is whether or not he is actually who he says he is, and whether or not Project Pegasus is a bedfellow of Project Camelot - or indeed the same entity. As well as trying to clear up the accusations that Basiago is in fact David Wilcock.

morphal
02-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Just found a recent audio interview w. Basiago where apparently he addresses the 'Wilcock/Basiago' controversy - haven't listened to it but thought I'd post the link:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/10oct/RIR-091018.php

morphal
02-01-2010, 10:34 PM
A bit of googling will quickly establish that he is a fake.....

http://ufotabloid.blogspot.com/2009/09/andrew-basiago-no-to-fatima-yes-to-life.html


"Beings in blue bodysuits" eh.

Wake up suckers.

lol - this link is ridiculous and does nothing to 'establish that he is a fake'. I feel sorry for you if this is is the kind of material that establishes truth or falsity! Someone's differing opinion about Basiago's claims of life on Mars = proof that he's a fake? LMAO... sorry you'll have to do better than this to discredit him.

zyphus
02-01-2010, 11:29 PM
Just found a recent audio interview w. Basiago where apparently he addresses the 'Wilcock/Basiago' controversy - haven't listened to it but thought I'd post the link:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/10oct/RIR-091018.php

Thanks for the link.

I've not heard this, but I've seen peoples comments on it, and it is apparently him (Basiago) who initiates the subject. I'll listen to it in a bit.

He could put it to bed once and for all by making a public appearance. After all of the supposed info he's released about himself, anonymity simply doesn't come in to it.

morphal
02-01-2010, 11:42 PM
It's strange - hehe - he uses the same old b/w photo for his public practice:

http://www.mineeds.com/Vancouver/The-Law-Office-of-Andrew-D

so he's in Vancouver, WA. The address is a PO box.

Anyway let me know what you think of the interview, I think the 2nd 2 hours are subscription only - is it a paid service? Thanks.

zyphus
02-01-2010, 11:53 PM
It's strange - hehe - he uses the same old b/w photo for his public practice:

http://www.mineeds.com/Vancouver/The-Law-Office-of-Andrew-D

so he's in Vancouver, WA. The address is a PO box.

Anyway let me know what you think of the interview, I think the 2nd 2 hours are subscription only - is it a paid service? Thanks.

It says Washington on the write up from George Noorey on Basiago's site..

Biography

Andrew D. Basiago is a lawyer in private practice in Washington State, a writer, and a 21st century visionary.
http://www.projectpegasus.net/

As for the interview, there are 8 parts on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=basiago+redice&search_type=&aq=f

And yeah, I think redice is subscription :rolleyes:

I'll have a go at that interview, but I think it will be hard going..

EDIT: Got my geography mixed up for a second.. Vancouver State, WE and not Vancouver, BC

morphal
02-01-2010, 11:58 PM
ah there you go, a phone number on this listing:

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/98668-wa-andrew-basiago-26771.html

Licensed to practice law in WA since 1996. Yes, it's Washington - Vancouver, Washington (not Vancouver, Canada). Actually it's pretty close by me, I could visit him if I had my darn passport since we can't just go over the border now all willy-nilly can we ;)

Thanks for the link - 8 parts on youtube - around 80 min? It's a 3 hr. interview... hope we can find that bit where he talks about the identity controversy. :)

zyphus
03-01-2010, 12:06 AM
Yeah.. Vancouver, WA not Vancouver, BC :D

It'll be interesting to see what he has to say on it for sure. If I find a direct link to that particular bit then I'll post it..

And a phone number too. There is absolutely no argument for anonymity now and will be looking forward to a Project Camelot 'whistle blower' interview sometime soon. ;)

elton
03-01-2010, 03:26 PM
lol - this link is ridiculous and does nothing to 'establish that he is a fake'. I feel sorry for you if this is is the kind of material that establishes truth or falsity! Someone's differing opinion about Basiago's claims of life on Mars = proof that he's a fake? LMAO... sorry you'll have to do better than this to discredit him.

Well can you show anyone these photos of martians in blue suits?

Go on.

I dare you.

Show me the photos Basiago claims are proof of aliens living on Mars.

Clock is ticking.

Where are they?

elton
03-01-2010, 03:28 PM
Thanks for the link.

I've not heard this, but I've seen peoples comments on it, and it is apparently him (Basiago) who initiates the subject. I'll listen to it in a bit.

He could put it to bed once and for all by making a public appearance. After all of the supposed info he's released about himself, anonymity simply doesn't come in to it.

You know that is not going to happen. He is a fraud.

Maybe he is busy photographing himself as a "being in a blue suit" on Mars.

lol at the mugs on this site.

zyphus
03-01-2010, 04:12 PM
You know that is not going to happen. He is a fraud.

Maybe he is busy photographing himself as a "being in a blue suit" on Mars.

lol at the mugs on this site.

Do you not get sarcasm, or are you just a bit slow?

morphal
03-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Well can you show anyone these photos of martians in blue suits?

Go on.

I dare you.

Show me the photos Basiago claims are proof of aliens living on Mars.

Clock is ticking.

Where are they?

Yes, I've seen his paper and the pictures of life on Mars. It's easily accessible. Do you really want me to go dig up the link for you? You have only read this guy's opinion that you linked to and that's how you made up your mind, you haven't examined the evidence for yourself?

You can see what he describes, or you may not, that's your opinion. I'm saying that the opinion of some guy on a blog does nothing to discredit him or prove him as a fake! lol...

romas
03-01-2010, 05:57 PM
Wasn't it Arthur Clarke who presented them and said they were some kinda flora on Mars? Those big round things, looked quite organic and 3d, but from top down view was rather hard to judge.

morphal
03-01-2010, 06:31 PM
Oh? I hadn't heard of that - did a search... found a bit of discussion on Clarke's flora? http://www.bautforum.com/life-space/88086-old-trees-mars.html

romas
03-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Yeah, the detailed pictures were on this forum I think UFO section, simmilar to http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/2055/spiders-invade-mars

But different, really looked like something 3d, but not computer generated.