Madeline Sacrafice

[loderlive]

What do you see when you look into her energy?

Fear?

[pri01]

spot on titan....
she'll be back

I'm with you on that one illuminotti. For some reason I don't think it will be soon though. My thinking, and I have said this in previous posts are that because they completely focused on the flaw in her right eye. Why would they put so much focus and emphasis in the World media complete with the gimmicky LOOK logo? It has to be significant in terms of identifying her when she is found and consequently revealed to the World. Children's facial features change rapidly when they are as young as Maddie and it would be difficult to establish her identify her from visuals alone. You can almost hear the calls of "Oh it has to be her, look at her eye, it has the same mark there can be no mistake". I could be completely of the mark and an absolute ass thinking this however, if you carefully read everything that you can that has been written you get to see a clearer picture

[phildee3]

What do you see when you look into her energy?



Coldness.
An automoton.

[loderlive]

Coldness.
An automoton.

Trance.

[phildee3]

Trance.



Eternal darkness.

[darketernal]

Eternal darkness.

Moi?

[kweli]

Coldness.
An automoton.

I see that too; and totally fake emotion. By no means a good actress.

[pri01]

I see that too; and totally fake emotion. By no means a good actress.

Am I right in thinking that you're refering to Kate McCann?

[phildee3]

Moi?



If the cap fits...

[illuminotti]

I'm with you on that one illuminotti. For some reason I don't think it will be soon though. My thinking, and I have said this in previous posts are that because they completely focused on the flaw in her right eye. Why would they put so much focus and emphasis in the World media complete with the gimmicky LOOK logo? It has to be significant in terms of identifying her when she is found and consequently revealed to the World. Children's facial features change rapidly when they are as young as Maddie and it would be difficult to establish her identify her from visuals alone. You can almost hear the calls of "Oh it has to be her, look at her eye, it has the same mark there can be no mistake". I could be completely of the mark and an absolute ass thinking this however, if you carefully read everything that you can that has been written you get to see a clearer picture


Exactly, that eye marking will be the proof to the world, there are some big names involved, and alot of confusion, which gerry mccann thinks is great, he even said so once
"it's great,the best thing about all this, is that there is so many lies been printed no-one knows whats the truth and what isnt the truth"
Your so right, when you sit back and re-read everything,which i did, it's all very weird, i just know she'll be back, i don't know why, i just do!!

Madeleine's probably on one of her daddy's rich friends island somewhere,because my god these people are very connected, you want to see some of the big names that have been connected to them, it goes very high, the people on the 3arguido forum don't tend to believe in a government conspiracy of sorts, so they just dismiss these connections as coincidence, i take them on board!!! the last connection they made was of a R.A.F priest who married gordon brown and was in praia de luz visiting gerry and kate, she's from the redemptorist church, she also comes from kate mccanns mum's church in liverpool!!

[kweli]

Am I right in thinking that you're refering to Kate McCann?

Yes.

[pri01]

Yes.

I wasn't sure if it was Kate's mother, because she featured a bit in the media and came across as cold and fake.

[mariag]

Regardless of your point, I still see it when I look into HER eyes. What do you see when you look into her energy?

Kates enegy is one that lacks features such as empathy and remorse. She might have those somewhere deep locked inside her mind but I am only sensing a very unsensitive programmed female

[kanut]

The Mccann's proved to me that they are heavily involved in a global peadophile ring by being obsessive with filming and photographing Madaline for year's before she was obducted, and with that ammount of obsessive recording of just one child out of 3, i'ed say they were grooming her themselve's to put her in front of a film crew that's not in the Public Eye! Being that the Mccann's are both in the Health Service, it's not that hard to hide the evidence of a sexually abused child, Freemason GP's are covering up for parental peadophility in every NHS surgery in the UK, and it's alway's the GP's that know more about all the psychotic's in their area, and everyone know's the Freemason Doctor Chrtistie Club give's their evidence the Majik Circle disareaing act in the Police Record's, cuz that's their Doc The Ripper Club!
Freemasons might credit a lot of Charity's, but man made charity is an admittence of Guilt to me, as money maybe mute, the conscience isnt, so i'ed investigate the Mccann's involvement in particular charity's, because that's how peadophile's hide their guilt in reverse psychology, and that's what the Freemasons call their Dog-ma!

[pri01]

The Mccann's proved to me that they are heavily involved in a global peadophile ring by being obsessive with filming and photographing Madaline for year's before she was obducted, and with that ammount of obsessive recording of just one child out of 3, i'ed say they were grooming her themselve's to put her in front of a film crew that's not in the Public Eye! Being that the Mccann's are both in the Health Service, it's not that hard to hide the evidence of a sexually abused child, Freemason GP's are covering up for parental peadophility in every NHS surgery in the UK, and it's alway's the GP's that know more about all the psychotic's in their area, and everyone know's the Freemason Doctor Chrtistie Club give's their evidence the Majik Circle disareaing act in the Police Record's, cuz that's their Doc The Ripper Club!
Freemasons might credit a lot of Charity's, but man made charity is an admittence of Guilt to me, as money maybe mute, the conscience isnt, so i'ed investigate the Mccann's involvement in particular charity's, because that's how peadophile's hide their guilt in reverse psychology, and that's what the Freemasons call their Dog-ma!

I remember at the start of the case there was video footage taken of Maddy walking across the airport tarmac towards the plane they were about to board for Portugal. She fell at the steps of the plane grazing her knee. I'm not sure if this was a recording from a mobile phone or a video recorder. Whatever the recording device used, under normal circumstances this wouldn't be allowed being so close to a plane fully loaded with fuel.

[onourwayto2012]

Wow! My vote in the poll made it 333 yes and 33 no. That's gotta mean something! What I don't know.
edit: 3+3+3=9 33 divided by 3= 11
There ya go...Bingo!

[kanut]

In one new's report early in Madaline's disapearence, Kate Mccann state's, " We loved our daughter", so within 72 hour's of her disapearence, Kate is stating the word 'loved', which is another clear indication that she consciously knew Madaline was no longer alive, it's a past tense reference, and that's what make's her a cold emotionless liar in everything she say's!

[endlessvista]

In one new's report early in Madaline's disapearence, Kate Mccann state's, " We loved our daughter", so within 72 hour's of her disapearence, Kate is stating the word 'loved', which is another clear indication that she consciously knew Madaline was no longer alive, it's a past tense reference, and that's what make's her a cold emotionless liar in everything she say's!

There it is hammer nail head.

[hw spartan]

I dont know much about the case..but here a few facts
1=portigual is another NWO bowdowners(ass kisses of power,bankers ect,had builderbergs meeting year b4 i think?)any way, there into black arts.
2=why where local citizens hideing from cameras, one even pulled the hose out to wet reporters, i mean if it was the Holy country of Greece ,the people would of been in streets,in cameras faces, talking this talking that, all Greeks love throwing in there view,but in Portigual the opposite,Catholic countries these days lol
3=Why did the parents Go to the bloody pope, if anything its was there demonic pedophiliac system from the portigaul link, and yet they went straight to the master planner of abducted children,,anyway
these are the only few facts i know, cause in Australia you can imagine the fast food news we get here aint worth shit.
but these 3 point i did pick up, and for me...it reeks of foul play, of grand scale.
:)

[inky]

Breaking news :rolleyes: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Madeleine-McCann-Police-Search-After-British-Couple-Spot-Missing-Youngster-In-Majorca/Article/200809415107726?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15107726_Madeleine_McCann%3A_Police_Se arch_After_British_Couple_Spot_Missing_Youngster_I n_Majorca

Why don't they just re-appear her and get on with all their talk about the microchip.

[endlessvista]

Just to show how stupid the McCann supporters who have this visions of Maddy they always see her as the 3 year old who went missing. None of these muppets seem to realise that if it was her she would be going on 6 now.

In 20 years time they will be still reporting sightings of a 3 year old which they are 100% certain is Madeline McCann.

That's how unreal stupid McCann supporters and defenders are.

[endlessvista]

This is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QxuSgaprf8

[kanut]

I know someone said a while back that kate & Jerry Mccann arn't involved in any cult's, but isnt man made religion a cult anyway! Kate & Jerry are well into the Church, and as far as 'm concerned, it's still a man made religion, and man made religion's are nothing more than cult's. Look at Alex's Museum Of Hoax's onm google, because the Vatican's been covering up for peadophiles in the Church for decade's, which is practically a business of reversing someone's criminal records! It all involves police, judge's, lawyers, doctors, anyone in a place of public record's, because that's where they can swap a witnesses record's with the criminal's without detection, or so they claim, look at what's been going on in the UK over the past several year's, almost every public record's department's been data snatched, lost, or mislaid, and it's all to do with the Freemason, AKA Skull & Bone's American Civil War Society, and every UK Council employee's a member in it! they fake historical record's & photograph's, swap identity's within the public record's system to cover up for their peadophile clergy's, doctor's, lawyer's, M.P's, including MP Lynn Jones, Birmingham, I already got shit on her on tape, and that's who the Mccann's are involved in, because I've got the swap the witness record's with the peadophile's, not only in my medical record's, but also in police record's, council record's, and there aint no solicitor in the UK will touch me because of what I've got on them! So believe it, Freemasons are classic Schitzo's, that's why it was the Nazi's that stole the identity of a Night Temple Nazarah, ie; REM Sleep, from their experiments of drug's on kids, and turned it into their Nazi Knights Templars and Freemasons, faking them into history as if they'ed always been there, which is all fake, they are just Munchausen half brained Schitzophrenic's, and thats why they reverse everything, because like a hlaf brained dog, they havn't got the intelligence to tollerate the truth about themselve's, and that's your New World Order, the Bedlam inmates revolt!

[endlessvista]

Kate & Jerry are well into the Church,

So much so that when they did their own version of O J's White Bronco getaway and returned to Rothley in a hurry they went on a PR trip to Mass and were caught on camera asking a stranger where the local Cathoilc Church was.

[kanut]

Yep, those American Civil War Society member's sure know where their press optortunitys are don't they, especially because their all into acting out reenactment's, or rather, reverse psychology to fake history with, and according to Kate's Dad, they'ed been involved with their local church for year's, he said so to a reporter outside their home when they arrived back in the UK the first time, i remember watching it on the local news, and he stated it quite catagorically that Kate and Jerry's family were all praying at their church for them, and they would be attending a private mass for Madaline, and you dont get that unless your a regular member, so why would they only just start going to a church, and yet had the key's to the church on their holiday just day's after Madaline was obducted? So why would a foriegn church give the key's over to a none member of a church just day's after their kid disapeared? It don't figure unless they were members on a long term basis, and had connectives between their own Parish and that of the one near where Madaline was obducted, and that's probably why there was speculation over the Madaline body fluid's found in their hire car they hired 2 week's after madaline disapeared, and I believe that Madaline's body was hiddden inside the church for week's while Jerry and Kate were being followed by the press all over the place!

[kanut]

Kate Mccann show's quite clearly symtoms of Stockholm Syndrome, and it was alway's Jerry with the camera's in madaline's face 24/7, and my first insticnt was that Jerry is the peadophile, and so is Kate's Dad, that's why she show's clear sign's of Stockholm, she's cold and unemotional 24/7, as if she has no maturnal connection with any of her children whatsoever, which you would obviously expect from a woman that had all her children by Cesarian, because that's how the Nazi's experimented with cutting the maturnal instict's between mother and child, it's well known in the medical industry that it was one of the most secretly organised experiments for the Global Health Organisation, and we're just all the guinea pig's!
I believe that Madaline was also on drug's, maybe amytriptoline, she looked very much like she wasnt even aware that she was being filmed most of the time, and even when she looked into the lense, she had no normal child reaction to having a camera in her face, which would have made a normal kid very excited, and maybe play up for the camera, but madline didn't, and that make's me believe she was being groomed for yea'rs well before the Mccann's went on that holiday, and we've all been watching the Mccann's grooming their daughter only to a degree that the public might not suspect what's been going on behind the camera! Madaline's eye's do not show the light in her eye's from a happy child of her age, she's alway's on her own in the pic's, she's on her own in the vid's, and she's never held or cuddled by either Jerry or Kate in any pic or vid, and that's why I believe the Mccanns are guilty of their own daughters obduction and murder, with the help of other's along the way! As I recall from my school ed, Pagaism is all about the Devil, ie: psychology of Evil, and it's the public that's being tested by the Media to see if we can work out the shit they put in front of us, look how many big director's in publishing are Freemason, AKA Skull & Bone's associated, it's all a game to them, really!

[americana]

[QUOTE=kanut;527010]I believe that Madaline was also on drug's, maybe amytriptoline,

she looked very much like she wasnt even aware that she was being filmed most of the time,

and even when she looked into the lense, she had no normal child reaction to having a camera in her face, which would have made a normal kid very excited, and maybe play up for the camera, but madline didn't,

and that make's me believe she was being groomed for yea'rs well before the Mccann's went on that holiday, and we've all been watching the Mccann's grooming their daughter only to a degree that the public might not suspect what's been going on behind the camera!

Madaline's eye's do not show the light in her eye's from a happy child of her age,
QUOTE]

Very good point. If you look at the tons of pix of Madeleine, she often doesn't smile for the camera, she often just stares, blankly. The pix used for the missing poster is the most notable one. There's no life there. It's very sad. It's not as if all the photos are candid, either. She "knows" she's being photographed, is looking ahead, but there's no "there" there. She was already gone.

[endlessvista]

[QUOTE]

Very good point. If you look at the tons of pix of Madeleine, she often doesn't smile for the camera, she often just stares, blankly. The pix used for the missing poster is the most notable one. There's no life there. It's very sad. It's not as if all the photos are candid, either. She "knows" she's being photographed, is looking ahead, but there's no "there" there. She was already gone.

I think a lot of people think the same way when they saw the photos. That along with her tiny size. Classic result of being neglected on all levels.

[kanut]

It was obvious to me from the very first video that was shown to the uk public that Madaline was being drugged on Amytriptoline, I have the experience of it myself from my own childhood, and got some of my medical record's to prove I was forced to take 60mg's a day by my parent's when I was aged 8-13 to shut me up about what my parent's were doing, but it wasn't until I was over 20 that I found out that it's ilegal to perscribe Amytriptoline, an antidepressent, to children under the age of 16, which became a Law in 1952, and the date's on my record's show perscribed Amytriptoline from 1968-73, and yet the Medical Council wont even answer my complaint about it, saying the doctor that perscribbed it is dead, and I have nothing to complain about! So as far as I'm concerned, the Mccann's can easily get hold of drug's in their prpfession's without any suspician's whatsoever, and easy to keep it out of Madaline's medical record's! Believe, Madaline was drugged on practically every picture and video the Mccann's took of her, and being a Freemason half brain incest peadophile's victim myself, I have enough experience to see right through the Mccann's bullshit 24/7.

[empathyx]

Hello Everyone, Im a newbie, but was invited to join the forum a long time ago and finally here..

I have a pyschic site that also carries general topics and we do have insights on Madeleine and other missing children. Dont know if you are interested and respect those who think its bunkum. Anyway, you are welcome to come and have a look and join if you wish. We are really quite concerned about the Barrosso link with Madeleine obviously even if she were linked in that way, if she is found, we will never ever know about any underground stuff...I am quite sure that will be kept pretty quiet.

Anyway here is our link

http://empathy7.proboards100.com/index.cgi

and will get on with reading some of the great posts here.

Regards
Empathy x:)

[inky]

Were you on the skynews forum?

[inky]

It was the mirror forum actually. I remember you if you were

[empathyx]

It was the mirror forum actually. I remember you if you were

Hello Inky, not sky news but I did post on DM a few times. I got permanently slated because I said the Mccanns would not be arrested and that Maddie was alive and taken by someone known to the Mccanns. I cant prove the second remark, but the Mccanns did,nt get arrested!! I started my own forum way back then because nobody appreciated psychic views...I understand that of course, but I they did,nt allow free speech on there..:eek:

[pri01]

Hello Inky, not sky news but I did post on DM a few times. I got permanently slated because I said the Mccanns would not be arrested and that Maddie was alive and taken by someone known to the Mccanns. I cant prove the second remark, but the Mccanns did,nt get arrested!! I started my own forum way back then because nobody appreciated psychic views...I understand that of course, but I they did,nt allow free speech on there..:eek:
Hi empatyex. I don't believe that maddie is dead.

[titan]

no, she isn't dead.

This 'story' is awash with masonic symbolism.

[inky]

Hello Inky, not sky news but I did post on DM a few times. I got permanently slated because I said the Mccanns would not be arrested and that Maddie was alive and taken by someone known to the Mccanns. I cant prove the second remark, but the Mccanns did,nt get arrested!! I started my own forum way back then because nobody appreciated psychic views...I understand that of course, but I they did,nt allow free speech on there..:eek:
Good for you, I read your blog too and it made alot of sense.

[kanut]

Madaline isnt alive, kid's that are abducted into the underworld dont last more than a couple of week's, otherwise there wouldnt be that much of an underground hidden if kid's as young as Madaline lived to be 18 or old age, and as much as I know about the psychology of the incest peadophile underworld, they need a regular supply of younger and younger children, so I believe that madline was a gona within the first month of her disapearence, because they just waste children like they are just a bit of flesh to play with until it run's out of steam, and for a kid Madaline's age, that isn't long!

So why hasn't the Authorities and the Press detected that Madline wasn't quite a normal little kiddie in front of a camera, there's enough footage of her looking oblivious to being filmed and photographed to sink a battle ship! Do you think they, as in 'The Half Brain Elite', are testing us to see how much the public can work out from the evidance what Stockholm syndrome is ?, because as far as the UK Government is concerned, only the M.O.D. has the medical info for Stockholm Syndrome, the NHS hasn't got any at all, I requested the recent report's from them, but they say they havn't got any!, so why not!

[titan]

Madeleine was filmed so much because she always was and still is a project.

This is one Freemason's goddess who won't be sacrificed.....only in faux media terms....blood in the apartment, cadaver etc..

There has been obvious religious shenanigans in the media (for the public) and absolutely loads of freemason nonsense because they have to leave their symbolism (easy to spot)

Her eye strikes 30-33 degrees for a start - she is very important.

[endlessvista]

"Last photo" of Madeline McCann may have been photoshopped:

from three arguidos site:

http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=23941&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

[empathyx]

Hi empatyex. I don't believe that maddie is dead.


Hello Pri01 - I think there are many hidden factors involved and somehow it does,nt square up. I have never believed Madeleine to be dead,but I have thought she was ill. Only personal opinion of course as there are many things being said that easily would contradict that.

From the very beginning I sensed a plan - three people showed up in my tarot from very early on. Some of the behaviourial patterns of the Mccanns also did not tally with an 'abduction unknown'. The 'scene of the crime' appeared to be 'prepared' and I did,nt think at any stage Maddies blood was in the apartment. I had a notion about a 'miscarriage' but could,nt get to the bottom of it. It has appeared to me that Madeleine 'disappeared' for a cause and until the cause has been satisfied she wont be seen.

The other peculiar oddity with tarot is that it has given me 'two Madeleines' very strange I know, but I had the word 'imposter' many times.

Unfortunately Tarot is a very difficult divination tool - it really does give many truths, but those truths are spread over time ie. Past Present And Future and when reading them it can often be tricky to put down a time scale. I have worked with the tarot for many years, and I have to say I have never really known a situation like this one because there is so much 'illusion' in the cards. At one point I even had outside thoughts that it was all a total nonsence and we were looking for a child that does,nt exist....

so I write down what I see and though there are repeat patterns of what may have occurred - I cannot break the boundary as to where the illusion fits in, but clearly, there is one in there somewhere.

I dont say Im right but its always interesting to consider all sorts of views.
At the current time Tarot says that Madeleine will be found, but that does change because there seems to be some kind of 'conditions' involved which moves the goal posts and frequently!!

So whether Madeleine exists or not, we will have the impression she does and tarot will pick up what is going on behind the scenes. In recent times Tarot tells us that Gerry will receive an unexpected Message and have to take a plane somewhere...that was in the last week...whether that has occurred or not I am not aware. I have ultimately said the Mccanns will sell up and go and live in America. I still expect this to happen as America is more than key to the situation.

Anyway time will tell if it is going to give us any answers at all.

[americana]

Empathyx, what an intriguing post. Thank you!

It doesn't seem UNLIKELY that there is a "double". Elsewhere on this thread I have posted about the various personas of Maddie - - redheaded in the horse pix, smaller, larger - - - there are so many photographs of her at different ages and sizes it's hard to make out just WHAT she looks like! What color IS her hair, for instance? Really blonde, or dyed? There is extraordinary obfuscation and illusion here, so not surprising that the Tarot would parallel that.

And given the fact that it was in-vitro fertilization . .

[titan]

I agree Empathy.

Madeliene could be a twin. IVF? Or something more futuristic?

I think so.

At the moment:

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n47/n236756.jpg

[titan]

Masonic symbolism.

Here's one of the many.

Richard Branson talking about his support of the McCanns (paying legal fees?)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5158/herparentshavebeennamedhq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Behind Richard Branson is Boston Bridge. Here's more photos:

http://www.fadingad.com/blog/boston/charleston_bridge.jpg

http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/06jan/images/wein2.gif

http://www.porreda.com/acatalog/JEW73Aext.jpg

http://www.istanbulobeliskhotels.com/img/obelisk_istanbul1_big.jpg

[empathyx]

Yes, its very intriguing about Madeleine and one must,nt forget that Gerry slipped up and called her margaret..at least I did read this. I dont have the link to supply in support of it but will post If I do find it.

I kept asking myself how unusual it was to rustle up a whole group of doctors and go off for a holiday with children all at the same time. Part of me thought, nothing wrong with it as clearly David Payne who booked this holiday in PDL also went with some of the same group to Greece sometime before to anothe Warner holiday. Kate and Gerry apparently did not go to that meet.

But, then I thought, if I was Jane Tanner and I had just moved into a new home in Exeter just four weeks earlier, would I have the time to be messing around organising everything for a holiday? Well, Ive been in my new home for three months and still doing things that need to be done with the organisation of things. Had I been in the property four weeks, the last thing on my mind would be running out the door on a holiday.

The holiday is strange. Its not a normal holiday by any means. I dont feel it was anyway. There is something just too odd about it all and Murat showing up too virtually the same time.

I want to believe that I am overly suspicious really, but it goes against what I truly feel. I somehow get the impression this holiday may have been to 'heal some wounds' between friends, to 'be like they were in the old days' kind of thing...because it does seem to me that something somewhere was,nt right.

If you recall Gerry on the travel bus who was caught on video, taken by David Payne by the way.....Gerry did not look amused or he was just being contrite suggesting the holiday was,nt exactly being looked forward to by him...Madeleine looking considerably small to the pictures of her in the playground...Thought that was very peculiar...many many inconsistencies all round in my view but maybe its just the Mccanns hard luck that it looks that way and it is all a true story from their end.

Even if I was prepared to think that , I still think there is something we are not being told regarding a situation with the Mccanns that may have sparked this off. Perhaps it is oversensitive and cannot be broached.

I had an insight from early on that also brought up buildings...and two men. I had believed at one point that perhaps someone borrowed a huge amount of money and was in debt...the money was to build something, or was for a building and it was never paid back. I did see Gerry and Kate with enormous debts and credit cards with nothing on them....

If this were true, how on earth would they have afforded to go to PDL with just the cash they may have had on them?....I dont doubt the tarot at all, but I do doubt the way it dishes up information in the wrong places when I want a specific pinpoint answer....so often its frustrating.

Its amazing how fascinated we all are at the plight of Madeleine against the very many children out there in the world who are lost , yet she stands out.

Pyramids are very strongly connected to Madeleine and I do feel there is some higher authority somewhere calling some shots.

I would like to sit here and say its a happy ending...why should,nt it be...but I still think some decisions may at the end of the day rest with Gerry and Kate. Do I think they killed her...No, it never entered my mind...but the ambition that is written in their cards is very great...it just depends very much what they have said to other people and how other people have acted against their interests.

I worry about making some suggestions, but there is still the question of whether Gerry is the paternal father, or whether indeed there are 'several fathers' in the mix...but the PJ were never going to find out about Madeleines medical records - and I dont think they have been released either....

stomach problems, possible diabetes, weakness below the navel are all things attributed to Madeleine..I dont see her as a very well child at the best of times, if it is not personal health, then it may be the confining and restrictive atmosphere she had to endure. Today, I released two new tarot readings...and I still dont understand the question mark on why she cannot be returned to Gerry and Kate....I had the fool originally, which basically laughed me in the face telling me ...you have got to be kidding....huh? Well, thats an afront from the tarot if anything....but when I asked why that would be I was given seven of Pentacles sitting over a harvest...

what that card can imply is that one does,nt reap the harvest until one can be assured of the best return....

:confused:

[pri01]

Hello Pri01 - I think there are many hidden factors involved and somehow it does,nt square up. I have never believed Madeleine to be dead,but I have thought she was ill. Only personal opinion of course as there are many things being said that easily would contradict that.

From the very beginning I sensed a plan - three people showed up in my tarot from very early on. Some of the behaviourial patterns of the Mccanns also did not tally with an 'abduction unknown'. The 'scene of the crime' appeared to be 'prepared' and I did,nt think at any stage Maddies blood was in the apartment. I had a notion about a 'miscarriage' but could,nt get to the bottom of it. It has appeared to me that Madeleine 'disappeared' for a cause and until the cause has been satisfied she wont be seen.

The other peculiar oddity with tarot is that it has given me 'two Madeleines' very strange I know, but I had the word 'imposter' many times.

Unfortunately Tarot is a very difficult divination tool - it really does give many truths, but those truths are spread over time ie. Past Present And Future and when reading them it can often be tricky to put down a time scale. I have worked with the tarot for many years, and I have to say I have never really known a situation like this one because there is so much 'illusion' in the cards. At one point I even had outside thoughts that it was all a total nonsence and we were looking for a child that does,nt exist....

so I write down what I see and though there are repeat patterns of what may have occurred - I cannot break the boundary as to where the illusion fits in, but clearly, there is one in there somewhere.

I dont say Im right but its always interesting to consider all sorts of views.
At the current time Tarot says that Madeleine will be found, but that does change because there seems to be some kind of 'conditions' involved which moves the goal posts and frequently!!

So whether Madeleine exists or not, we will have the impression she does and tarot will pick up what is going on behind the scenes. In recent times Tarot tells us that Gerry will receive an unexpected Message and have to take a plane somewhere...that was in the last week...whether that has occurred or not I am not aware. I have ultimately said the Mccanns will sell up and go and live in America. I still expect this to happen as America is more than key to the situation.

Anyway time will tell if it is going to give us any answers at all.

This is fascinating. The message that you get about there being 2 Maddies fits in with my theory which I have posted on this thread in the past. Maddie was created artificially and my theory suggests that they created 2 copies. There is an awful lot of twin (gemini) symbols around and this is reflected in the world of Hollywood where a number of film stars have produced sets of twin babies. When the articles detailing her disappearance together with the parents apparent arrest was relentlessly covered every single day, there was an abundance of twin baby stories that were printed too. Maddie also had twin brother and sister. My thoughts are that 1 copy of Maddie has sadly been sacrificed whilst the other is being treated like a princess ready for the revalation. The eye reference is the key to her being revealed. It's the one single feature that will difine absolutely that the Maddie being revealed is the child that disappeared from her bed in Portugal. The stories of the McCanns being arrested and accused are just that; stories, deliberately engineered to divert attention from people realising that all is not right with their story. It worked a treat as conversations abound whilst people argue the unjustness that 2 Doctors appear to be getting away with neglect in the first place and man slaughter on the other. It's a great cover.

[timvickers]

Could someone briefly recap the 'No Maddie' and 'Two Maddies' theories for me? Are they related to the pods/no planes/Kyle did it theories?

[emerald]

More Maddies or one, I dont think any of them was or - more absurdly - still is treated like a princes. These assholes dont waste time with royal treatments. "Gone baby gone"...

[titan]

If she was sacraficed then we would have had a body and a patsy by now. H

Spotted at religious sites - a big con.

Spotted with arabs and gypsies - a big con.

[phildee3]

If she was sacraficed then we would have had a body and a patsy by now.



Not if they needed every part of the body.

[titan]

Not if they needed every part of the body.


Well, they can do that with someone unknown

This story is way to important and symbolic.


In my humble opinion :)

[empathyx]

Just want to pop in quickly and show you this thread...also please click on the three arguidos link on there...theres a massive discussion about these new photos that someone appears to have found...

http://empathy7.proboards100.com/index.cgi?board=newmadsep&action=display&thread=3941

[empathyx]

http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.....602e963a9260015

Here is the three arguidos link first discussing grandmothers and then the thread develops to show the photos.

[phildee3]

Well, they can do that with someone unknown



Not if she was specially made for the purpose - like Diana.

[americana]

Empathyx, gosh it's all so confusing! Purposefully, methinks!

But thanks for the post; more fuel to the fire.

The OP on 3 Arguidos doesn't give the source or say what the captions were.

I can't understand WHY in god's name the McCann extended family would be showing photographs, supposedly from their Canada trip this summer, that show . .. Madeleine?

But I don't think the photos are from their Ireland trip. In those pix, Madeleine's hair looks reddish/ brown (just like in the horse pix).

I wonder if any of the investigators ever asked Mr. or Mrs. McCann, outright, if they ever dyed their child's hair. If she's not a "natural" blonde, then who the hell is everybody supposed to be looking for, anyway!!!

[empathyx]

Empathyx, gosh it's all so confusing! Purposefully, methinks!

But thanks for the post; more fuel to the fire.

The OP on 3 Arguidos doesn't give the source or say what the captions were.

I can't understand WHY in god's name the McCann extended family would be showing photographs, supposedly from their Canada trip this summer, that show . .. Madeleine?

But I don't think the photos are from their Ireland trip. In those pix, Madeleine's hair looks reddish/ brown (just like in the horse pix).

I wonder if any of the investigators ever asked Mr. or Mrs. McCann, outright, if they ever dyed their child's hair. If she's not a "natural" blonde, then who the hell is everybody supposed to be looking for, anyway!!!

Hiya Americana, I would like to ask them if they have twin daughters or whether they know that Madeleine is one half of a twin. Perhaps the other one does not live with them...however, it is a source of information I certainly would like to know at this stage. Tarot has been belting on about it on and off for a long time.....so if that ever proves to be correct, everything else should neatly fall into place..at least...I think.

[titan]

Not if she was specially made for the purpose - like Diana.

true, but not all goddesses are made for sacrafice imo

The sacrifice has been in media terms. The media has told us that Madeliene is dead....or alive depending on what story comes out. She's suspended between life and death....a cliffhanger.

[phildee3]

true, but not all goddesses are made for sacrafice imo



Madeline was not a goddess.
She was made to be a host for one.



The media has told us that Madeliene is dead....or alive depending on what story comes out. She's suspended between life and death....



Not only in the media.

That is the whole point of theophagy.

[titan]

Well, I was refering to their names to be honest.

Diane and Madeleine are both goddesses.


Here's some info about freemasons and goddesses.


http://www.womanthouartgod.com/wmbondfreemasonry.php


There is no doubt in my mind that their is a huge freemasonic link to what is happening here. So in that sense, what with the strange views these people have, I'm sure some involved easily see her as a goddess.

[phildee3]

Well, I was refering to their names to be honest.



Ah, sorry.

Well, neither Diana nor Maria Magdalena were "sacraficed."

Perhaps that's why they created hosts for them both - so they would be.

[titan]

Ah, sorry.

Well, neither Diana nor Maria Magdalena were "sacraficed."

Perhaps that's why they created hosts for them both - so they would be.

I see,

I thought that is what you were implying when you said 'specially made for the purpose - like Diana'

I agree about Diana....she was born on the 1st of July...feast of St John...also her son was induced, so it might have been exactly the same for her....truth is stranger than fiction as they say.

But Madeliene? No So far that is my opinion and I can't see it changing any time soon.

[phildee3]

But Madeliene? No So far that is my opinion and I can't see it changing any time soon.



I don't care about opinions.
I laid out the evidence that I had way back on this thread for anybody who is seeking the truth and, although I'm very open to looking at any contrary evidence that others may have to produce a more viable theory, it has not been forthcoming.

The evidence overwhelmingly points to theophagy -
celebrated by the highest, worldly authorities.

[titan]

Well that's a pity you don't care about opinions :confused:

[pri01]

I don't care about opinions.
I laid out the evidence that I had way back on this thread for anybody who is seeking the truth and, although I'm very open to looking at any contrary evidence that others may have to produce a more viable theory, it has not been forthcoming.

The evidence overwhelmingly points to theophagy -
celebrated by the highest, worldly authorities.

Hi Phildee3. I think that each of us have put forward our different theories based on our own personal knowledgebase, life expectations, life experience and who or what our major influences are. I know very little about the background behind your theory/viewpoint which you clearly appear to have a high level of understanding. However, I can see why it is the most viable theory from your point of view. The theory that I have put forward might be absolutely rubbish and utter nonesense in yours and others eyes, however it's the theory that my thinking can understand at this point in time. With more learning life experience etc. my thoughts on this, and any other topic that I might contribute to could be very different.

[phildee3]

Well that's a pity you don't care about opinions :confused:



What's the point if they're inflexible?

[phildee3]

The theory that I have put forward might be absolutely rubbish and utter nonesense in yours and others eyes,



No theory is rubbish/nonsense (that would be only an opinion),

- just supported to differing degrees of evidence.

[titan]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6691503.stm

EU marking Missing Children's Day

John McCann said the family would not stop until Madeleine was found
Parents of children who have disappeared, including those of Madeleine McCann, 4, are marking the EU's Missing Children's Day.
John McCann, Madeleine's uncle, on a visit to UK charity Missing People, urged families in a similar position to remain hopeful.

The key was to realise that there was a channel of support, said Mr McCann.

The charity said that since Madeleine's abduction on 3 May there had been 1,200 reports of missing young people.

Yellow ribbons

The aim of the day, instigated by the European Union, is to support parents like the McCanns.

In the UK, Missing People, previously known as the National Missing Persons Helpline, chose the day to relaunch under its new name and logo.

It also announced what it said was the first UK direct mailing appeal to help find missing children.

And the charity launched an official yellow Missing People ribbon to symbolise support for all missing people.

People have been urged to wear yellow ribbons to mark their support for the McCanns since Madeleine was snatched from their holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz.


Madeleine's picture was projected on to Marble Arch in central London

John McCann visited the charity's offices in London to highlight its work and to offer support to other families whose children had disappeared.

He said: "I'm sure that you all can relate to the horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach and the complete turmoil that hits us.

"The initial waves of sickness and mental upset was completely overwhelming. None of us was able to think clearly."

He added: "For all families that are coping with a disappearance, your pain will be like ours and some of them will have carried it for longer than we have.

"What I want to do is show that you can remain hopeful. The key part is realising that there is a channel of support and that is where the charity Missing People comes in."

Mr McCann said the family was in it for the long haul and would not stop until Madeleine was found.


Missing People is appealing for help finding Carmel Fenech, 16

Forget-Me-Not flowers

He joined Paul Tuohy, chief executive of Missing People, as he re-launched the charity.

"We are re-launching at a peculiarly ironic time - when the level of interest in missing people has perhaps never been higher, when 'missing' as a social issue is on the lips of politicians, radio and TV presenters, newspaper editors, and men, women and young people the length and breadth of the country."

Mr Tuohy also announced a direct mailing appeal for a missing child, which will be delivered to half a million homes on Friday.

It carries an appeal for a girl named Carmel Fenech who was 16 when she disappeared from Crawley, West Sussex, on May 23, 1998.

According to Home Office estimates, 210,000 people are reported missing each year in the UK, around two-thirds of whom are under the age of 18.

The EU Justice Commissioner marked the day with a plea not to forget the McCanns' plight.

Franco Frattini said: "The public support shown throughout Europe to the parents of Madeleine McCann has illustrated European citizens' solidarity with the families of missing children and the importance they attach to ensuring a safe and secure environment for our children."

All EU staff in Brussels were urged to wear forget-me-not (myosotis) flowers in support of the European Federation for Missing and Sexually Exploited Children, the organisers of the event. http://jeelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/forget-me-not.jpg

Forget-me-not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

This coincidence enabled Freemasons to wear the forget-me-not badge as a secret sign of membership.

http://www.childfocus.be/pictures/DanielCardon.jpg

Baron Daniel Cardon de Lichtbauer.

He was the man who arranged this:

http://www.icmec.com/en_X1/pdf/ICMEC_NL_7.pdf

called the G8 for children

http://missingchildreneurope.com/files/Image/Elysee%202007_doc.jpg

[titan]

9

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bvw2Cr6CE83u/610x.jpg

Why 9 I asked myself? Then I was reminded of something I had read re: G8

Well this is why:

The Ennead:

http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/ennead.htm

Race for Innoncence is mentioned in the ICMEC pdf:

http://www.race4innocence.org/

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ds-IRQBEXTQ/RvyA9VASc6I/AAAAAAAAAR0/RPXVH-A8F_I/grief2.jpg


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 821286.ece

It is late Sunday night, and in the kitchen of a large house in the Jordanhill area of Glasgow John McCann, uncle of the abducted four-year-old Madeleine McCann, is brainstorming with Andrew and Jill Renwick and Paul Macintyre, medical friends of Madeleines parents, Gerry and Kate.

They talk of getting bookmarks with Madeleines picture inserted into every copy of the final Harry Potter book this summer. They are enlisting the help of the actors Ewan McGregor and Daniel Craig and the director Stephen Frears at the Cannes Film Festival. They want to highlight Madeleines plight at the Tour de France, at the summers international golf tournaments, and at next weekends grand prix in Monaco where the Spyker team has agreed to put posters on its cars.

They want appeals for information screened in cinemas across Europe, and Mrs Renwick suggests asking the cartoon channel Nickelodeon to broadcast Madeleines picture

It all sounds hugely ambitious, but in the 18 days since Madeleines abduction the McCann family and their friends have shown that little is beyond them


Resourceful, tireless and determined, they have mounted a DIY campaign to find Madeleine unprecedented in its scale and scope. They have made MadeleineÃs face ubiquitous. They have turned her into one of the few people known internationally by a single name.

The http://www.findmadeleine.com website went live last Tuesday. A chain e-mail begun by Philomena McCann, an Ullapool teacher who is Madeleines aunt, has carried her picture into tens of millions of homes worldwide. The campaign has attracted offers of more than £2.5 million in rewards from the likes of J. K. Rowling, Sir Richard Branson, Sir Philip Green and the Scottish tycoon Stephen Winyard. More than 50,000 people have sent messages of support, and John McCann expects the campaign to have raised more than £1 million by the weeks end.

The campaign had an appeal broadcast on Wembleys giant screens at last Saturdays FA Cup final reaching a potential audience of 500 million in 160 countries, and at the Uefa Cup final in Glasgow between the Spanish teams Espanyol and Sevilla. It has enlisted the help of Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham and John Terry, and of Liverpoo players before tomorrow European Champions League final.

England cricketers wore yellow ribbons at Lords. The racing drivers Jenson Button and David Coulthard have put Madeleines pictures on their websites. BP, Exxon, McDonalds and other retail chains such as Carrefour have agreed to display posters at thousands of outlets across Europe.

Gordon Brown has pledged his support. Last Friday John McCann was dining with friends when Downing Street called to say that the Chancellor was on the line. Minutes later Mr McCanns mobile on which he takes hundreds of calls daily ran out of power, cutting off Britains next Prime Minister in mid-sentence. Yesterday morning, as Mr McCann was talking to The Times, his mobile rang again. It was Revenue & Customs, calling at Mr Brown request to discuss how the fund could gain charitable status.

As John McCann points out, it is not bad for a“bunch of amateurs''�. The campaign has now employed professional media and legal advisers, and will shortly take on a manager and financial administrator, but it has for the most part been inspired and run by Madeleine’s parents and a small circle of relatives and friends several of them medical colleagues of the McCanns – using every contact they can muster.

Their link to the football world was Stuart Hillis, a Glasgow cardiologist who worked with Scotland's football team and knew Sir Alex Ferguson. A Leicester cardiologist and rugby fan roped in Martin Johnson. A former pupil of Philomena McCann set up the website. An Aberdeen GP enlisted the oil companies through executives he knows.

When Gerry McCann promised to leave “no stone unturned''� in his hunt for his daughter, he meant it. His doctor friends have mobilised medical associations throughout Europe, and are doing the same with other professional organisations representing lawyers, dentists, accountants, ophthalmologists and the like. Appeals for Madeleine are now available on the internet in 16 languages. The campaign is about to distribute 1.2 million leaflets at London three main airports.

Everyone wants to help. Lorry drivers supplying Glasgow fruit market are dropping off posters at all the cafes and petrol stations on their routes across Europe. Travel agents send out pictures with customers tickets.

The campaign has two nerve centres. One is in Praia da Luz. The other is the Glasgow sitting room of John McCann, 48, who is on indefinite leave from his job as a medical rep for the pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca. There he fields endless e-mails and telephone calls.

Arguably the campaign has been almost too successful. The Portuguese police may be so overwhelmed with tips that the critical one will be overlooked. I a bit scared that something will get swamped, John McCann says.

We would run to the ends of the earth to the ends of the earth if that would bring back Maddie to our pal Gerry

[titan]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2007/07/24/horrors-give-hope-to-gerry-mccann-89520-19507293/

MADELEINE DAD'S MISSION TO U.S.

IT was 81 days, an ocean and continent away from the place where his daughter was abducted but Gerry McCann found a strange reassurance here yesterday.

The consultant cardiologist began a three-day trip to America by visiting a state-of-the-art support centre, set up to help parents find their missing children.

The International Centre For Missing And Exploited Children lies in the dormitory town of Alexandria, a 20-minute drive from downtown Washington. It is a quiet place of shuttered homes and historic landmarks.

But behind the facade of the centre's 1920s building, lie pitiful, shocking stories of mass paedophilia, of children disappeared. And yet, there are also stories of patient optimism, built on so much success at recovering missing kids.

And it was the latter which seemed to give Gerry McCann refreshed hope.

He heard of girls taken as toddlers and traced after 20 years; of boys who vanished at two and discovered at 18 years old as a result of the centre's computer image-ageing techniques. And he heard that the vast majority are not taken to be killed.

"Myself and my wife Kate have been in contact with the centre almost since the day Madeleine was abducted," said Gerry."It's important that I came on this trip to understand better the work being carried out across the world to reduce child abductions. Of course, it helps maintain the profile of my daughter's disappearance but I hope it also draws greater public attention to what is often something which captures people's attention for only a few days."

The centre was established in 1984, following the murder of youngster Adam Walsh, who was abducted from a Florida shopping mall. After the killing, Adam's father John Walsh - who presents the TV show America's Most Wanted - vowed to do all he could to prevent another parent suffering as he had. And most recently, the Adam Walsh Child Protection And Safety Act was signed by President Bush.

It created a national database of convicted child molesters and increased penalties for sexual offences against children. But perhaps most importantly it demanded that police file reports on missing children within two hours of their disappearance.

"Before then the presumption was always that the kid had run away and the parents were told to come back in 72 hours," the centre's chief executive Ernie Allen told Gerry.

"You could immediately enter information about stolen cars but not about stolen children - and the key moments in any abduction are the early ones."

THEN he paused. "I don't mean we haven't had success finding children months or even years later. But the message must be that police don't waste those first, precious hours.

"After all, the attempt to find a missing child is only as strong as the officer who turns up."



Gerry nodded, saying nothing. Then Mr Allen added: "But most people take kids not to kill. Of those who do, 74 per cent are murdered within three hours." Gerry looked to the floor, hands folded as if in silent prayer for his daughter, who was abducted in Portugal in May.

Later, he saw the pictures of youngsters who had been recovered. Many had been taken by an estranged parent or relative. But there were scores of kids marked "abducted by a non-family member".

Children such as Sara EghbalBrin, who disappeared in France aged three, to be discovered five years later in Canada, because of image-ageing photos and a sharp-eyed traffic cop. The centre here receives 300 calls each day - from worried parents and people with information. The centre also posts pictures of lost kids to 85million homes a week.

"As you know, Gerry," Mr Allen said, "somebody knows. Somebody can tell us what happened to your daughter. There's a somebody for every one of those missing youngsters."

He talked of a child stolen in California and found in Puerto Rico seven years later. Gerry told him: "Believe me, we've had calls from all over the world. One even came from Guatemala. And you have to take them all seriously." Mr Allen reassured him: "There's hope, real hope. Children aren't taken for murder in the vast number of cases. Children just go. They are obedient. They do what they're told."

But the global web of paedophilia highlights the risk our most vulnerable face. The centre recently exposed an internet network involving 77 countries. In the UK alone there are more than 100,000 child porn sites. As a business it is, as Gerry said: "Easy, cheap, very profitable and with little risk."

"It's the sheer scale of the problem," he added. "These are the things to take back with me to the police and child welfare agencies involved in Madeleine's case.

"This visit strengthens me and my resolve. With dedicated people like this here - people who have found 115,000 children since 1985 - there's always hope. And I'll be taking it back to Portugal."

After his visit to the centre, Gerry spent time with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who has been at the forefront of US child protection reform.

"What I've seen on this brief visit is that they are light years ahead of Europe in uniting the strands governing how we protect kids," said Gerry."And we can certainly learn from it."
So it will soon be back to Portugal for Gerry - and more waiting and hoping.

"It has been a long time now and we just have to take each day as it comes. But Madeleine knows we love her very much and that we won't stop searching."

The early hours are crucial.. but we've also found kids after many years

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/mccan1ALBN2407_468x692.jpg

[titan]

http://www.masonichip.org/content/view/70/82/

In February of 2004, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in the person of Peter Banks, Director of Outreach and Training, first appeared before the Conference of Grand Masters gathered in Washington D.C., giving a heart-felt presentation that asked all in attendance to consider start-up of a child identification program in their jurisdiction. This presentation led to the formation of our standing committee .... Masonic Child Identification Support Committee.

Over the past three years we have laid the ground work for collaboration between our two organiztions. The NCMEC is a multi-facided non-profit organization that utilizes "Technology" as the backbone and foundation of its activities to help protect our most vunerable members of society ... CHILDREN ... and aid law enforcement in their efforts to find and prosecute those who exploit them.

[titan]

Ernie Allan, NCMEC

http://edlabor.house.gov/testimony/072407ErnieAllenTestimony.pdf

Elizabeth Smart Found Alive (abducted from bedroom)

http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/c/e/elisabeth_smart.jpg

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/West/03/12/smart.kidnapping/

Missing teenager Elizabeth Smart, the subject of an intense police hunt since she was reported abducted from her bedroom last summer, was found alive Wednesday in the nearby suburb of Sandy and reunited with her family

Also there is a poll

QUICKVOTE
Should Congress pass a national Amber Alert measure to aid in locating missing children?


Yes
No
VIEW RESULTS



McCanns win missing child alert bid

Kate and Gerry McCann have called the move by the European Parliament to back an EU-wide missing child alert system "wonderful news".

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/McCanns-Missing-Child-Alert-Bid-Kate-And-Gerry-Win-EU-Resolution-From-European-Parliament/Article/200807215030499?lpos=World_News_Third_Article_Teas er_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15030499_McCanns_Missing_Child_Alert_B id%3A_Kate_And_Gerry_Win_EU_Resolution_From_Europe an_Parliament

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00315/McCann1_385x185_315139a.jpg

[titan]

There have been many sightings of Madeliene.

Here's one:

First picture of three-year-old Bosnian girl mistaken for missing Madeleine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-493928/First-picture-year-old-Bosnian-girl-mistaken-missing-Madeleine.html

Marian visions info:

http://www.medjugorje-online.com/apparitions.php

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00477/Pope_477189a.jpg

Madeleine's toy Cuddle Cat complete with rosary:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44102000/jpg/_44102999_mccann3_getty416300.jpg

[pri01]

There have been many sightings of Madeliene.

Here's one:

First picture of three-year-old Bosnian girl mistaken for missing Madeleine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-493928/First-picture-year-old-Bosnian-girl-mistaken-missing-Madeleine.html

Marian visions info:

http://www.medjugorje-online.com/apparitions.php

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00477/Pope_477189a.jpg

Madeleine's toy Cuddle Cat complete with rosary:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44102000/jpg/_44102999_mccann3_getty416300.jpg

I'm afraid for some time now I have been unable to open any links to dailymail stories. I receive message about having to debug or something. I don't know if others experience the same? I'm not that good with computer speak.

[titan]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg


The Marble Arch was originally the gateway to Buckingham Palace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Arch

Marble Arch was originally erected on The Mall, as a gateway to the newly rebuilt Buckingham Palace.

So, we could say this is the Royal Arch. (er, freemasons)

This arch was based on the Arch of Constantine in Rome, who, as we know, is a relative of our Queen. Why did they move it ?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBS_enGB277GB277&q=arch+of+constantine

Incidently, Diana is on the original Arch of Constantine.

Incidently, they might be moving the Marble Arch again. This time along a bit to Tynburn.....where the dissidents were hung. Ley line perhaps?...certainly a
lot of negative energy there imo.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-16924922-details/Marble+Arch+on+the+move/article.do



Red Cross of Constantine

Whilst every candidate for admission into this Order must be a Royal Arch Mason, he is also required to confirm his true belief in the Trinitarian Christian faith

http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/26/p12.php

http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/6255/rcc2.gif

Madeliene was also spotted in L'arch cafte in Montpellier

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/570/21bc6e741749622c92ec544aj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/21bc6e741749622c92ec544aj7.jpg/1/w360.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img212/21bc6e741749622c92ec544aj7.jpg/1/)

[titan]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg

See the stylized ISSI in Missing.....I think this is Isis....Magdalene/Madeleine.

So it was the Daniel Cardon de Lichtbauer who arranged for Lady Bush et al to meet up, and it was the European Federation of Missing Children who projected Madeliene on the arch.

Troubling reading:

http://trannyfattyacid.blogspot.com/2007/12/firefoxphobia.html

Food for thought

Code Madeleine + Fund Madeleine

The scheme is backed by the Federation of Tour Operators (FTO), whose members take 18 MILLION Brits abroad each year, AND the Association of British Travel Agents (ABTA). Among the big names who have thrown full support behind us are Teletext, First Choice, BA Holidays, Thomas Cook, My Travel, Thomson Holidays, Virgin Holidays and Cosmos.

********************/33nopg

European Center for Missing and Sexually Exploited Children + Fund Madeleine

Child Focus, or the European Center for Missing and Sexually Exploited Children, was founded in 1998 by Daniel Cardon de Lichtbuer and headed by this person ever since. In 2005, de Lichtbuer became chairman of the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children (ICMEC), headquartered in Washington and founded in 1999. Who is this Lichtbuer? First of all, he is quite big in the financial world, with former positions in Banque Bruxelles Lambert, the Belgian Bankers' Association, VP Bank Liechtenstein (with Nikolaus von Liechtenstein), Thomas Cook Traveller Cheques and the European Financial Marketing Association. He also has been executive president of the aristocratic Europa Nostra. But things become really problematic upon reading that de Lichtbuer is a member of the honorary committee of Cercle de Lorraine, together with with Maurice Lippens and Etienne Davignon. Equally worrying is his position as honorary executive president of the Koninklijke Vereniging der Historische Woonsteden en Tuinen van België, together with prince Alexander de Merode (former chair) and Count Ghislain d'Ursel. Davignon used to be a board member too. There's another indication that de Lichtbuer might not be the best choice for an anti- child abuse organization: 1998, Stef Janssens, 'The names from the cover up', p. 33: "In 1989, [Nicolas] de Kerchove d'Ousselghem [CEPIC; chef de cabinet of Vanden Boeynants; contact of VdB to the PIO intelligence organization] and Paul Vankerkhoven, CEPIC member and co-founder of Cercle des Nations [among many other things]... were employees of the magazine 'Revue Belge'. This right-wing magazine had as manager the present director of the Center for Missing Children and former BBL-director Daniel Cardon de Lichtbuer. What in itself is not reprehensible, but does say something about the milieu in which the present director of this Center was involved with." To clarify, that milieu appears to be the highest level child abuse milieu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cardon_de_Lichtbuer

He's a member of the Cercle du Lorraine. Lorraine?

[titan]

The above dodgy info on Baron Cardon de Lichtbauer was in this too.

Warning, disturbing reading. :mad:

http://www.isgp.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair.htm


Amber Alert was named after Amber Hagerman who went missing on the 13th of January.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Hagerman

So did Mary Luz (Mary Light) Cortes - missing January the 13th.

The papers said:

Spanish 'Maddy' Mari Luz found dead in river.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/03/08/spanish-maddy-mari-luz-cortes-found-dead-in-river-89520-20344220/

It was reported that Spanish courts made a mistake releasing the culprit of this crime..a man who had abused his daughter...because they released him early...his original sentence was 33 months.

Now I know that our papers announce things. Like this, Sarah Payne.

This is her painting (please read Matthew Delooze 'The Stars are Falling for more info on this)

http://www.ellisctaylor.com/files/sarah_s_painting.jpg

Printed in the Sun

http://www.sarahslaw.co.uk/

Sarah's law. Telling us that if Madeliene had been chipped she would have been found within hours, and to contact the Home Office to support this.

We "chip" our animals and our cars, even our pushbikes and yet we do not do this to our kids. If Madeleine had this chip, she would have been back with her parents within hours.

[titan]

What is does have (along the left hand side) is information to suggest that Madeleine has been taken by a peadophile network - which she hasn't......ETA...this story is from the Daily Mail, I get the impression that their are factions here possibly infighting....it could also be an attempt to get rid of Portugeuse Secrecy Laws...Globalisation..along with other civil liberty agendas.

There are only 3 stories in the press, taken by peadophiles, spotted with arabs/muslims or the McCanns killed their daughter.

Also interesting, is that the European Federation of Missing Children's website has completely changed (i have posted this info elsewhere)

It has a photo of the Baron telling us how happy he was the he had arranged the G8 missing childrens meeting with Laura Bush et al.

Also , there was a logo on that site that was in the style of Le Petit Prince. It was a child running on stars over a hill towards the bigger sun in the sky.

The sun was this:

http://yearegods.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/1.png

The updated website in question:

http://www.europeanfederation-children.org/

[titan]

Here is a You Tube video of Goncarlo Amaral....the one described 'sweaty and corpulent' in the mail link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWbxYjcNBs

The Constantian Order and the Order of Malta:

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/constantinian-order-the-order-of-malta-smom-gms-drawn-from-top-co-knights/


http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/gerry-mccann-parents-of-missing-child-madeleine-mccann-gerry-and-kate-mccann-june-16-2007-1idEo0.jpg


Looks like one big in-fighting nest of vipers to me. I get the impression the McCanns and friends have let themselves in for more than they bargained for.

[americana]

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http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/mccan1ALBN2407_468x692.jpg

Wow. Thanks for all of your great ideas here, Titan.

This picture SAYS IT ALL, in my opinion.

You couldn't have staged it better. OMG.

Have you found any photos of Madeleine herself, other than the image of the Marble Arch (eye/ I, multiple I's, multiple Madeleines) with her image projected on it . . . . which would further your concepts about the Masonic/ Illuminati Cabal and Madeleine?

[titan]

Hello Americanan.

The only projection of Madeliene was on the Marble Arch.

There have been quite a lot of pointers indicating their is a stong whiff of freemasonry. Personally I think the McCanns have been stabbed in the back....but I do not think their intentions were honourable in the first place...poor Madeleine.

Here's Madeleine at the Wembley Cup Final. Brainwashing in action I think. (click 'launch in stand alone player' if you don't know this already :)....)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6660000/newsid_6663300/6663331.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2

[americana]

Here's Madeleine at the Wembley Cup Final. Brainwashing in action I think. (click 'launch in stand alone player' if you don't know this already :)....)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6660000/newsid_6663300/6663331.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2

Yes, that photo of her in the football (we'd call it soccer) jersey.

Younger? Longer hair? Blonder? than when she was "abducted", or whatever happened.

In other words, if someone at the game actually was going to LOOK for her, what would they be looking for? A somewhat vacant looking girl with brown hair, above shoulder, or a more pixieish little blonde with longer hair?

What I was wondering is - - do you see any masonic symbolism in any photos of Maddie that have been shown to the public? There are so many . . .

[pri01]

Hello Americanan.

The only projection of Madeliene was on the Marble Arch.

There have been quite a lot of pointers indicating their is a stong whiff of freemasonry. Personally I think the McCanns have been stabbed in the back....but I do not think their intentions were honourable in the first place...poor Madeleine.

Here's Madeleine at the Wembley Cup Final. Brainwashing in action I think. (click 'launch in stand alone player' if you don't know this already :)....)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6660000/newsid_6663300/6663331.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2


I think that they have been shafted too. I think that they are now appeasing their handlers to keep them from harming Madeleine. My theory is that she will be returned, but I think the McCanns were misled about the timescale. Communication is 80% body language and only 20% verbal. Pictures and recordings of them in interviews and giving statements, reveal more through their facial expression and body language. They are not a happy couple and Kate looks like she is under the influence of medication or something.

[kguk]

Also interesting, is that the European Federation of Missing Children's website has completely changed (i have posted this info elsewhere)

It has a photo of the Baron telling us how happy he was the he had arranged the G8 missing childrens meeting with Laura Bush et al.

Also , there was a logo on that site that was in the style of Le Petit Prince. It was a child running on stars over a hill towards the bigger sun in the sky.

The sun was this:

http://yearegods.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/1.png

The updated website in question:

http://www.europeanfederation-children.org/

That website is down since august. I tried archive.org but i got this message:

Robots.txt Query Exclusion.

We're sorry, access to http://www.europeanfederation-children.org/ has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

You may want to:

* Read more about robots.txt
* See the site's robots.txt file.
* Try the page on the live web: http://www.europeanfederation-children.org/
* Search for all pages on the site europeanfederation-children.org/
* Try a different page address, at top

See the FAQs for more info and help, or contact us.

so i clicked the link to read more about robots and was given this answer:

Why are some sites harder to archive than others?
If you look at our collection of archived sites, you will find some broken pages, missing graphics, and some sites that aren't archived at all. We have tried to create a complete archive, but have had difficulties with some sites. Here are some things that make it difficult to archive a web site:

* Robots.txt -- If our robot crawler is forbidden from visiting a site, we can't archive it.

[titan]

kguk hi, that's interesting that you cannot access that website in its older form - I would have no idea how to go about trying to do that.

Maybe the EFMC were caught red-handed? They symbolism was so in your face.:mad:

And these people purport to care about missing people? These are the people who arrange 'laws' and micro-chip propaganda.

I don't know about you but I really hope people wake up fast becasue every day, when I research, I find blatant in your face facts telling me that this grand conspiracy is true!

prio1.......yes, that's how it started for me....the body language. I remember the odd feeling I got when I saw John McCann on telly....he just seemed amused by it all??....but I just kind of ignored it.....the meeting with the Pope too.

Americana: I haven't noticed any masonic symbolism in Madeleine photo's, except for her eye, which strikes 30-33 degrees.....although there are a lot of strange photos. :confused:

[titan]

http://www.bringmadeleinehome.com/blog/?cmd=find#Blog

Kate and I arrived back from Washington yesterday. We went primarily to visit the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) and to learn more about the implementation of their national AMBER alert system (child rescue alert). The whole experience was very positive. The staff at NCMEC is the most experienced in dealing with missing and abducted children anywhere in the world.

The AMBER alert system should be used in the most serious child abduction cases (usually by strangers, when the child is considered at risk of serious harm) to recover the child as quickly as possible. The alert is based on the realisation that galvanising the local community can play a huge role in finding missing children. Last year alone 68 children, and almost 400 in total since its’ implementation, were recovered safely as a direct result of the AMBER alert. In 16 cases the abductor released the child safely when hearing the AMBER alert. We strongly feel that Europe should have a similar integrated child rescue alert.

Our visit to Washington and meetings with other relevant European organisations will be shown on a documentary to be screened by ITV close to the anniversary of Madeleine's abduction. The programme will focus on the campaign to introduce a European version of the AMBER alert. There will of course be massive media interest in Madeleine’s disappearance at this time, if she remains missing, and we hope that the programme is shown in most European countries and further afield.

During our Washington visit we were also very encouraged to hear that, in NCMEC’s experience, the younger the child at the time of abduction the less likely that child will be seriously harmed. Such information makes us believe even more fervently, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that Madeleine can be found safe and well.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/19/politics/main544630.shtml

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2003/04/30/image551728x.jpg

Bush Signs Amber Alert Bill

CBS) Surrounded by rescued Elizabeth Smart and the families of other kidnapped children, President Bush on Wednesday signed a wide-ranging package of child safety measures into law.

The legislation's centerpiece would expand nationwide a voluntary rapid-response network to help find kidnapped children.

"No family should ever have to endure the nightmare of losing a child," Bush said. "Our nation will fight threats against our children."

At the insistence of Republicans in Congress, the new law also strengthens federal criminal penalties for child pornographers, sexual abusers and kidnappers.

The network is named after Amber Hagerman, a 9-year-old girl abducted in Arlington, Texas, and later found murdered.

State Amber Alert systems have already gotten results.

"America gets it, people are responding to these messages, and children are coming home safely," Ernie Allen, head of the Center for Missing and Exploited Children, told CBS News Correspondent Peter Maer.

The legislation provides matching grants to states and communities for equipment and training for the network, which will distribute information quickly, through radio and television broadcasts and electronic highway signs, about kidnapped children and their abductors.

"We have tough penalties. We're doubling the budget for the funding of the missing and exploited children program in the country," Ashcroft told Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith.

Also attending the Rose Garden ceremony Wednesday afternoon were the families of Hageman; and the families of Jacqueline Marris, and Tamara Brooks, two teen-agers abducted in California last year and later rescued in California's first use of the Amber child-abduction alert system. It prompted hundreds of law enforcement officers to be on the lookout for the girls and the stolen vehicle.

Last June, Elizabeth, then 14, was taken at knifepoint from her bedroom. She returned to her family March 12 after she was spotted in a Salt Lake City suburb with Brian Mitchell and Wanda Barzee, the transients who have been charged with her kidnapping.

"The first few hours are so critical, this alert will help bring those kids back," Elizabeth's uncle, David Smart, told CBS Radio News.

[titan]

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3209/mcd08081ic1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/mcd08081ic1.jpg/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img124/mcd08081ic1.jpg/1/)

Ernie Allan

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5721/mcd08084bi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/mcd08084bi2.jpg/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img87/mcd08084bi2.jpg/1/)

Ed Smart

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0enP9amdNS0UZ/610x.jpg

Ernie Allan and Gerry McCann

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3331/2008062320556tf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2008062320556tf1.jpg/1/w205.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img525/2008062320556tf1.jpg/1/)http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3525/2008062320557hs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2008062320557hs7.jpg/1/w205.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img124/2008062320557hs7.jpg/1/)

[titan]

I've already posted this info:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/features/display.var.1446959.0.0.php

And this:

http://www.icmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_X1&PageId=3221

http://www.seeingisbelieving.org.uk/race4innocence/default.asp


Of course this could be a coincidence, but the McCanns on this day, ran here:

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1747/zzkgjog2d2007jpgw180h25fm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9703/praiadaluzobeliskma1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/praiadaluzobeliskma1.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img388/praiadaluzobeliskma1.jpg/1/)

Also, if my memory serves, I'm sure Gerry McCann in his blog that day, said that Kate had attained her personal best.

Another one was when he said that the twins had a nice dinner and had 'squeezed a couple of chips in'.....weird.

[roxanneria]

A number of dictionaries of symbols state that the hand placed on the neck signifies sacrifice




http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2185/imagessacraficekb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4796/imagesmu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CHECK OUT THIS LINK:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica15.htm

:eek:

[endlessvista]

A number of dictionaries of symbols state that the hand placed on the neck signifies sacrifice




http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2185/imagessacraficekb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4796/imagesmu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CHECK OUT THIS LINK:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica15.htm

:eek:

That's excellent. I have no doubt that the McCanns are being protected by the Lodge Rats.

[endlessvista]

You know I used to think that the rumours of child sacrifice among the elite was bullshit, but the only answer to all of the below is New Labour and the UK establishment are allowing Gerry and Kate McCann to enjoy their freedom/celb status for no other reason than the likes of Gordon Brown, Richard Branson, Richard and Judy, JK Rowling, THE ENTIRE UK (AND IRISH for that matter) media considers the killers of a 3 year old British citizens to be a higher in priority than protecing her human rights.

Speaks volumes about the mentality of these 'leaders of society' doesn't it. They sacrificed/discarded Madeline McCann's human rights and access to justice to protect the system.

The Former Coordinator of the Judiciary Police talked about the different paths taken by both the Portuguese and English police forces, of the sensation that it was an investigation destined to be archived, of the role of the media in a case who turned out to be extremely mediatized…

“I thought, after my removal – said Mr. Amaral – that if the authorities from the country where the girl was born , certainly, never opened an inquest for her, if they did not want to know what happened to her and if they endorsed the abduction thesis, why should I worry? Our work is out in the open on the process files, destroying them is the only way to erase the record of what was done. It’s still possible that Justice can be done, for example if anyone from the group of the nine friends decides to talk.”

Someone asked him if writing a book on the case, as he did, wasn’t opportunistic, of a pure financial interest. “Opportunism? – he said – The British press, to undermine my work called me alcoholic, incompetent, vague… and the attacks continued even after my removal from the case. I wrote a book so I could restore my good name denigrated in public, since the institution of the Judiciary Police, to which I belonged for 26 years, never allowed me to defend myself. For that I requested an authorization to express myself and never got an answer. Afterwards I was removed from the case and asked for my retirement to regain my full freedom of speech. And obviously, to contribute to the discovery of the truth.”

The Former Coordinator advanced some conjectures, to questions put by the audience, regarding how Madeleine could have died, maybe in an accidental fall while the parents and their friends had dinner 100 meters away. He also answered to suppositions regarding the participation of certain friends of the couple in hiding the cadaver or in their silence…

Source: Faro de Vigo (paper edition, page 41)

[endlessvista]

Three days after their daughter went missing. Must of been around then the phone call from the UK establishment came.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z24/123Isobel/happycouple.jpg

[pri01]

:confused:Three days after their daughter went missing. Must of been around then the phone call from the UK establishment came.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z24/123Isobel/happycouple.jpg

Says it all.

[roxanneria]

I was reading this a while ago and thought is was quite interesting:

http://madeleinemccann.org/tfm/?page_id=11

Tha original "last photo" was from the times heres the link to the article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1836171.ece

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8748/zzafp104564692505151527vx5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzafp104564692505151527vx5.jpg)


today on joana maraio's blog. (she translates maddie articles ect from portuguese into english) and i was reading about a new video thats was on there,

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/10/amaral-in-vigo-in-madeleine-case.html

i noticed something strange on kates bedside table the maddie "shrine" there is a picture, in which maddie is EXACTLY the same as the on the "last photo" only shes on her own and there is no sign of GM at all


you might have to zoom in on it:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8633/vlcsnap1731653vz3.th.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap1731653vz3.png)http://img143.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

you can clearly see that maddies been taken from the above photo as seen in the mccanns apartment (notice the elbow)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/382/lastphotogc2.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastphotogc2.jpg)http://img404.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)


:eek::eek:

[cew91]

This Thread has been raging on for a while now hence there are too many pages to read... can some one prove to me that Madeline really was sacrificed.

[cori]

Well, if that picture on top was published by the McCanns as been taken on the afternoon before the girl was missing, and IF the other pic shows the room of Mrs McCann, then you dont have to prove Madeleines been sacrificed because then you have proven she hasnt been there in the afternoon may 3rd, which is as good as a prove that she hasnt been kidnapped that night. At least it proves their lies.

[americana]

I was reading this a while ago and thought is was quite interesting:

http://madeleinemccann.org/tfm/?page_id=11

Tha original "last photo" was from the times heres the link to the article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1836171.ece

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8748/zzafp104564692505151527vx5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzafp104564692505151527vx5.jpg)


today on joana maraio's blog. (she translates maddie articles ect from portuguese into english) and i was reading about a new video thats was on there,

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/10/amaral-in-vigo-in-madeleine-case.html

i noticed something strange on kates bedside table the maddie "shrine" there is a picture, in which maddie is EXACTLY the same as the on the "last photo" only shes on her own and there is no sign of GM at all


you might have to zoom in on it:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8633/vlcsnap1731653vz3.th.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap1731653vz3.png)http://img143.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

you can clearly see that maddies been taken from the above photo as seen in the mccanns apartment (notice the elbow)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/382/lastphotogc2.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastphotogc2.jpg)http://img404.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)


:eek::eek:


YES!!! Great post, just awesome work.

I have seen this picture, actually in a slideshow or film projected behind the McCann's at some talk or public appearance. I guess they could say they used the "whole" pix and photoshopped everyone else away just to show Maddie but why would you need to do that when there are so many damn pictures of Maddie, even other ones supposedly from those last days . . .

Can you make out what is that green stone dangling from a chain draped on the frame? I think that's important.

IF THIS PHOTO IS PHOTOSHOPPED, I believe it throws suspicion on all other photos provided by the McCann cabal.

[cori]

has anybody ever offered them a polygraph test to prove themelves?

[signalnorth]

YES!!! Great post, just awesome work.

I have seen this picture, actually in a slideshow or film projected behind the McCann's at some talk or public appearance. I guess they could say they used the "whole" pix and photoshopped everyone else away just to show Maddie but why would you need to do that when there are so many damn pictures of Maddie, even other ones supposedly from those last days . . .

Can you make out what is that green stone dangling from a chain draped on the frame? I think that's important.

IF THIS PHOTO IS PHOTOSHOPPED, I believe it throws suspicion on all other photos provided by the McCann cabal.

I'm probably being a bit dim here, but you can explain further, I don't get the significane, I'm not quite clear what's being suggested here.

[emerald]

SURI looks like MADDIE and its not 1st time I noticed the ressemblance.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/tomkats-bundle-of-joy/2348#comments

[titan]

This Thread has been raging on for a while now hence there are too many pages to read... can some one prove to me that Madeline really was sacrificed.

Some say she has been.

I certainly don't. I think it's a hoax.

[endlessvista]

I'm probably being a bit dim here, but you can explain further, I don't get the significane, I'm not quite clear what's being suggested here.

That the official "last photo" of the child with her 'loving dad' is almost certainly now a fake. To date this image and it's date stamp is pure digital. No digital camera has been handed over to establish if the this photo is real or a later photoshop special. Which is almost 99.9% certain.

The Maddie in the shrine image has not got her father behind her - yet it is the same photo. The only honest excuse is that the Gerry was cropped out of the shrine photo to just have her in it and not Gerry and the background rubber stamped in... OR the "final" Happy McCann Family photo was faked with Madeline photoshopped in afterwards in an attempt to "prove she was still alive on May 3rd".

Even if the first reason is the real truth. What father whose child has gone missing spends time working out his photoshop skills right after her abduction!

This also ties in with the fact the Missing Child posters suggests that Gerry McCann had printed before he even got to the Algarve. They were printed on a UK printer, not the one in the hotel reception like he claimed.

It's looking more and more like a murder and not a negligent manslaughter at this point. There is more than enough evidence aside from the above to have them in the dock. Instead they are being celebrated like victims and heroes by the UK establishment. Gordon Brown has championed and protected them from the start.

I do beleive that the Madeline McCann farce has woken up millions of people at this point. So well done Gordon the Moron, Branson, Richard and Judy etc.

[endlessvista]

has anybody ever offered them a polygraph test to prove themelves?

Gerry and Kate offered, but guess what...they said it knowing that lie dectectors are not admissable in cases in Portugal.

However there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLJ_SKvzUD4

please everybody send this youtube link to everyone they know.

[notthisshitagain]

SURI looks like MADDIE and its not 1st time I noticed the ressemblance.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/tomkats-bundle-of-joy/2348#comments

OMFG I also thought that too, but I thought "Nah.... I guess I'm just imagening things." I guess this proves I'm not the only one that thinks so..

[americana]

SURI looks like MADDIE and its not 1st time I noticed the ressemblance.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/tomkats-bundle-of-joy/2348#comments

Emerald, you're a sharp lady, very well-versed in what's going on in the world, I can tell from your posts.

What do you think this MEANS? If you were to push this thought further along . . . .the resemblance between Maddie and Suri (not seen for quite a while after her birth!!!) . . .

[cori]

Well I dont wanna add to that theory, but it sure isnt a secret, that rumours say Tom Cruise is sterile. At least I thought so.
But anyway, if Suri isnt Toms Baby, well then she might be the baby of Katies Ex BF.
http://www.celebrityzu.com/tom-cruise-conspiracy/
Cori

[jos08]

SURI looks like MADDIE and its not 1st time I noticed the ressemblance.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/tomkats-bundle-of-joy/2348#comments
waooo WTF is going on here, could they have given their kid to them, or maybe they were both made in labs ... this has to be looked into .. we need more people to look into this ... we should make an new thread to get more ideas from everyone.. I mean seriously WTF.

[david numen]

YES!!! Great post, just awesome work.

I have seen this picture, actually in a slideshow or film projected behind the McCann's at some talk or public appearance. I guess they could say they used the "whole" pix and photoshopped everyone else away just to show Maddie but why would you need to do that when there are so many damn pictures of Maddie, even other ones supposedly from those last days . . .

Can you make out what is that green stone dangling from a chain draped on the frame? I think that's important.

IF THIS PHOTO IS PHOTOSHOPPED, I believe it throws suspicion on all other photos provided by the McCann cabal.


On the photo of Maddie on her own you can quite clearly see Gerry's elbow which matches in with it's position in the other photo. They've quite simply taken Maddie's last photo and cut Gerry out.

Whilst I think this case is very odd this photo certainly isn't.

[emerald]

waooo WTF is going on here, could they have given their kid to them, or maybe they were both made in labs ... this has to be looked into .. we need more people to look into this ... we should make an new thread to get more ideas from everyone.. I mean seriously WTF.

The fact that CRUISE is actually (closeted) gay is a secret known by everybody in Hollywood. His marriages/relationships with women have been in fact just business contracts, some of his partners being themselves lesbian or bi and in need of boosting their career/image, such as KIDMAN or PENELOPE CRUZ. Was Kidman that famous before marrying Cruise? No. For instance, his 1st wife, MIMI ROGERS, caught him in bed with her brother and hence divorced. One of his lovers was fellow actor THOMAS GIBSON, ironically born same day as CRUISE and with whom he starred in FAR&AWAY and EYES WIDE SHUT.
He's a top manipulator in makin' us think what we want to think of him, isnt it? He sold us the "I'm straight but sterile" trick and it worked amazingly. I'm fine with his movies&roles, but as a person, sorry. And the scientology stuff turned him into a total moron. Some say little SURI is in fact L.RON HUBBARD's daughter (frozen sperm, insemnination etc.). Remember 1st pics of Suri? Officials sources claimed with procrastination that she's a few months old but in fact the baby's real age was over 9. A baby of 4-6 months months couldnt have looked that way. Anyway, 2 years ago I found smth:

http://www.usmagazine.com/tomkat_wedding_going_to_the_castle_gonna_get_marri ed

"An objection? Oh, thanks so much for asking. Hello again, US Magazine. Yes, I have an objection... to the utterly spiteful coldness of CONTRACTED SURROGATE MOTHER, Katie Holmes. But, no... I have absolutely no objection to MY Tom Cruise giving Katie the FAKE wedding of her dreams. I think it's the only way we can finally get rid of that witch. And she deserves it. Oh, please... no one be in an outrage. Katie signed a contract and knew exactly what she was getting herself involved in. I am the only biological mother of Tom's and MY Suri Luna FIELDS Cruise as well as Suri Luna's first and second-born TRIPLETS: Stoune Parker FIELDS CAPUTO and Sophie Jade FIELDS CAPUTO. It is Stoune Parker who is Vanity Fair's pretty coverBOY -- NOT Suri Luna! And Sophie Jade is that cutie in the mountain shot. Wherever you see Tom's and Katie's eyes wide shut, they are posing with a Caputo. Despite all of Katie's most desperate wishes, neither Tom nor I have absolutely any intention of separating triplets just so that Katie can continue clutching onto MY Suri Luna. Because I, myself, was a triplet separated at birth, I simply could never tolerate any kind of reenactment of that disaster. Be sure to clear your calendar for 2007: the year of MY worldwide wedding tour! We'll start it out at the very same castle in Italy, this time with everyone in the village, including all worldwide media, to be invited. Next will be the Southwest of France where I have a beautiful picturesque family estate that's just perfect for an old-fashioned French wedding. Again, everyone will be invited. Then, it's onto London, England so that I can have MY royal weddings of all weddings (complete with the Queen, my sons -- Prince Harry and Prince William -- in my wedding party). Japan will be next... wherever Nichiren Shoshu's high sactuary, Taiseki-ji Head Temple, is situated, that is where we will have our Nichiren Buddhist weddings of all weddings. Yes, and everyone is invited. Finally, will we be concluding in good ol' Los Angeles, CA... the place where we will have our much awaited Scientology ceremony. And, for the first time in world history, this and all Celebrity Centres worldwide will be open to all non-celebrities... FOREVER! (That's after Tom and I quietly tie the knot in Vegas in time for Christmas. Christmas 2006.) See you real soon, Claire Elliott Fields xxoo"

[linredfern]

On the photo of Maddie on her own you can quite clearly see Gerry's elbow which matches in with it's position in the other photo. They've quite simply taken Maddie's last photo and cut Gerry out.

Whilst I think this case is very odd this photo certainly isn't.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LclKfAQ0mYE&eurl=http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/10/amaral-in-vigo-in-madeleine-case.html

stop the clip at approx 6.22 and you will see what I believe is the original photograph of Madeleine which was then added to the 'last photo' at the pool side with her father. This original photo is also the one that is on Kate's bedside 'shrine'. Either way the photograph has been photoshopped to either include or exclude Gerry (and his elbow). It is difficult to believe that a well wisher would had photoshopped the group photo thus producing Madeleine (without Gerry's elbow) so soon after her disappearance. OR the whole group photo could be fraudulent and totally amassed in photoshop.

Whatever, something is not right.

[david numen]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LclKfAQ0mYE&eurl=http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/10/amaral-in-vigo-in-madeleine-case.html

stop the clip at approx 6.22 and you will see what I believe is the original photograph of Madeleine which was then added to the 'last photo' at the pool side with her father. This original photo is also the one that is on Kate's bedside 'shrine'. Either way the photograph has been photoshopped to either include or exclude Gerry (and his elbow). It is difficult to believe that a well wisher would had photoshopped the group photo thus producing Madeleine (without Gerry's elbow) so soon after her disappearance. OR the whole group photo could be fraudulent and totally amassed in photoshop.

Whatever, something is not right.


OK, now I understand better - you are right, it is the same image of Maddie and it's very odd.

[seaweed]

The fact that CRUISE is actually (closeted) gay is a secret known by everybody in Hollywood. His marriages/relationships with women have been in fact just business contracts, some of his partners being themselves lesbian or bi and in need of boosting their career/image, such as KIDMAN or PENELOPE CRUZ. Was Kidman that famous before marrying Cruise? No. For instance, his 1st wife, MIMI ROGERS, caught him in bed with her brother and hence divorced. One of his lovers was fellow actor THOMAS GIBSON, ironically born same day as CRUISE and with whom he starred in FAR&AWAY and EYES WIDE SHUT...


In 'The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas', Thomas Gibson played a character called Chip Rockefeller! Is that 'Chip' as in microchip?

So what are the twin Toms trying to tell us?

Also Gibson made his professional stage debut in 1985 in David Hare's 'A Map of the World.' Cruise's real surname is Mapother (Mapother the world? :D)

Gibson's son was born June 23rd (666 day)

[mightiswrong]

Just got a post to my Praia da Luz forum from somene in America. Don't know what to make of this. Check it out.
http://www.traveluzion.com/discuss/index.php?topic=175.0

[amandaooo]

Listen at 5.00 onward


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0bfR4hcoEYc&feature=related

[endlessvista]

Listen at 5.00 onward


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0bfR4hcoEYc&feature=related

That is so ture and I never thought I would find myself being in such agreement with Dr Phil.

Journalsits are apart from being dumb addictive personality morons are the biggest racists of all and as seen in the Madeline McCann case there is a disturbing facination with sexualising little girls among the mainstream journalism.

They think they are aware, sensitive and politically correct type, but when it comes to missing children there is this what can only be looked upon as a psycho-sexual, represssed racist-pedophile mentality among the journalists.

It is always little blonde middle-class and upper girls which journalists seem to developed a rather unsettleing attaction too. It is almost as if journalists are showing empathy with the abductor's perverted needs rather than the child victim. I have long wondered if the fawning adoration of Gerry and Kate McCann among journalists and media is somekind of repressed greatfullness for these two muppets to allow their daughter to be violated. Think about it.

At some point the whole world has to wake up to the fact that sick and distrubed people become journalists. It is they who are the problem, not the rest of the human race.

[americana]

The "journalists" are simply peddling what sells. And what sells is attractive children. Sick, but true.

[tinmenace]

Did anyone see the episode of Haunting Evidence (http://www.trutv.com/shows/haunting_evidence/index.html) where Psychic profiler Carla Baron, medium John J. Oliver and paranormal investigator Patrick Burns went to Portugal to investigate Madeline's disappearance?

Basically both Carla and John agree that Maddie is dead. She was taken by a man who was drawn to her after hearing her laughter, possibly on the beach. Carla said that he took a photo of her with his cell phone, and then basically stalked the family to record their schedules.

He carried her out of her bed, and took her to his car nearby, drove to a town/village nearby and took her into a room he was renting at a boarding house. He kept her for a couple days, but after seeing how much media attention her disappearance had created, decided to suffocate her with a pillow. Carla said that he couldn't even look at what he was doing, and basically held the pillow over her face with one hand in an effort to psychologically distance himself from her murder. She said he was shocked at himself for what he had done.

She also felt that maybe he was possibly Egyptian, and was no longer in Portugal.

It was very interesting.

[deckard]

Did anyone see the episode of Haunting Evidence (http://www.trutv.com/shows/haunting_evidence/index.html) where Psychic profiler Carla Baron, medium John J. Oliver and paranormal investigator Patrick Burns went to Portugal to investigate Madeline's disappearance?
Basically both Carla and John agree that Maddie is dead. She was taken by a man who was drawn to her after hearing her laughter, possibly on the beach. Carla said that he took a photo of her with his cell phone, and then basically stalked the family to record their schedules.
He carried her out of her bed, and took her to his car nearby, drove to a town/village nearby and took her into a room he was renting at a boarding house. He kept her for a couple days, but after seeing how much media attention her disappearance had created, decided to suffocate her with a pillow. Carla said that he couldn't even look at what he was doing, and basically held the pillow over her face with one hand in an effort to psychologically distance himself from her murder. She said he was shocked at himself for what he had done.
She also felt that maybe he was possibly Egyptian, and was no longer in Portugal.
It was very interesting.


Utter bollocks.

[tinmenace]

Utter bollocks.

:)

[deckard]

Just as I thought, you have no proof of anything.

[tinmenace]

Just as I thought, you have no proof of anything.

:D

[titan]

I got the bare bones of it too and I must say, it is a load of rubbish.

The second coming of Magdalene is on the cards imo.

[moneypenny]

Dear observa

i have this from a a spiritual who has spent many hours attempting to find maddie..... i met an spent time with her personabley i have no reason to say she was a fake i assure you this is real in truthrull from my heart ............

The people who tried to find her via our enery paths have been blocked by lets say from a very high government pathway. Maddie has been taken away from her family but is now shieleded from all who may try to find her.. she has or is bein used by these people/beings fora higher purpose i
.e chipping our children and its unknown whether whe is safe/alive or not she is not contactable not by us anyway....
i do know that the spitituals i know HAVE been threatened with DEATH and have ecperiencedd VERY bad events happeninn to them if they happen to reveal anything they find..

Love and light my darling.... let us all be united

Sara xxxx

[endlessvista]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HugsKz2hcBo

[cj22]

I believe the reason Maddie has been reported so much is so the news can then say if only Maddie had been chipped we would have been able to locate her. Get your child chipped now to stop the same from happening to them.

[pri01]

I believe the reason Maddie has been reported so much is so the news can then say if only Maddie had been chipped we would have been able to locate her. Get your child chipped now to stop the same from happening to them.

Welcome cj22 you're on the right track. If you get a chance to read through some of the posts on this topic though you will get a wider perspective.:)

[titan]

Dear observa

i have this from a a spiritual who has spent many hours attempting to find maddie..... i met an spent time with her personabley i have no reason to say she was a fake i assure you this is real in truthrull from my heart ............

The people who tried to find her via our enery paths have been blocked by lets say from a very high government pathway. Maddie has been taken away from her family but is now shieleded from all who may try to find her.. she has or is bein used by these people/beings fora higher purpose i
.e chipping our children and its unknown whether whe is safe/alive or not she is not contactable not by us anyway....
i do know that the spitituals i know HAVE been threatened with DEATH and have ecperiencedd VERY bad events happeninn to them if they happen to reveal anything they find..

Love and light my darling.... let us all be united

Sara xxxx

Hello, I could quite believe it!

[moneypenny]

hei
just a note on maddie eye... SO IAM TOLD this is a mark of a debt to be repaid to the darker energies her mother has to repay this and maddie has this mark..
LnL SAR x

[christuffer]

Have little idea about the views on this thread as they are far too numerous to read.


Just to say that the spelling errors on the title of this thread, at the top of the 'today's news' page piss me off every time I go onto the page. Can they be sorted??

[tyler]

Hear, hear! :)

[tyler]

Am I a snob? I dunno, but I must confess the poor spelling and awful grammar throughout the messages on this forum irritate me. Perhaps I'm somewhat old fashioned and it's true, I am older than most on here, but the atrocious written English makes me fail to take what is being said as seriously as I should.
Obviously the dumbing down in our schools has been going on for some time now judging by the poor standards on show here.

[phildee3]

Just to say that the spelling errors on the title of this thread, at the top of the 'today's news' page piss me off every time I go onto the page. Can they be sorted??



We've been through this already.

It was changed to "sacrifice" but then changed back when it was pointed out that "sacrafice" is a hybrid of "sacrifice" and "sacrament."

Look up "theophagy."

[seaweed]

Regarding the flaw in Madeleine's eye.

There are some interesting parallels with the symbolism contained and/or hinted at within Roman Polanski's 'Chinatown'

Faye Dunaway plays a character called Evelyn Mulwray who has a flaw - a black dot - in her iris. Evelyn had an incestuous relationship with her father and gave birth to his child, a daughter.

She keeps the daughter in hiding to make sure her evil peadophile father doesn't get to her. In the end though, he does find his daughter/granddaughter.

There is a theory posed by screenwriting guru Robert McKee that the evil father's intention is to have a child with his daughter's daughter so that the resultant child has even more of his genes, and is closer to being a clone of him.

It is also suggested that the flaw in Evelyn's eye denotes that she may also be the result of an incestuous relationship, and that her mother was her father's daughter too.

The incestuous father is a rich and powerful man who is intended to represent the embodiment of evil of the powers that be and their secret societies.

[christuffer]

We've been through this already.

It was changed to "sacrifice" but then changed back when it was pointed out that "sacrafice" is a hybrid of "sacrifice" and "sacrament."

Look up "theophagy."

Can we at least spell the poor girl's name correctly, then??

[phildee3]

Can we at least spell the poor girl's name correctly, then??



Not guitly, me.

But if you want to be picky, you should not call her "poor."
She wasn't in poverty before her disappearance and you have no evidence that she is now. :rolleyes:

[endlessvista]

Can we at least spell the poor girl's name correctly, then??

On a scale of 1 to 10 how does not spelling her name correctly on this forum rate along side her own father calling her "Margaret" at a press conference.

[emerald]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how does not spelling her name correctly on this forum rate along side her own father calling her "Margaret" at a press conference.

MARGARET was the name of one of her clones perhaps...

[jp13]

Am I a snob? I dunno, but I must confess the poor spelling and awful grammar throughout the messages on this forum irritate me. Perhaps I'm somewhat old fashioned and it's true, I am older than most on here, but the atrocious written English makes me fail to take what is being said as seriously as I should.
Obviously the dumbing down in our schools has been going on for some time now judging by the poor standards on show here.

I tend to agree Tyler, I think words and the way they are used are very important, especialy when some people do numeracy to the letters i.e.Gematria and other things.
Words are also strong in the way they are used, I'm not explaining this well at all, but I think many will know of what I say.
Sacrafice, it might help newcomers to this thread to have it explained to them that this is a bastardised word, a hybrid of two other words "Sacrifice and Sacrament" (I hope I spelled it wright)
Words have power, as much as we give them I suppose, I often think about some of the visualisations I go on when reading a novel, that's my head constructing an imaginary world from the book, where I can SEE the action of the words.
This is worth
Value - £0.02

[timezone]

Madeleine had been missing for twelve days, chipping was already being discussed.The fear planted into the minds of parents had begun in less than two weeks. It is now very hard to google microchip and not find madeleine connected to this.


From Times OnlineMay 15, 2007

Would an implanted chip help to keep my child safe?
In the wake of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, every type of child monitoring device is in demand

Carol Midgley
If your child could wear an implant – a microchip that could tell a computer where he or she was at any time to within a few metres – would you buy it? After the horrific snatch of three-year-old Madeleine McCann from her bed in Portugal, the answer from many parents seems to be “yes�.

Professor Kevin Warwick, who developed the technology that made it possible for the first child in Britain to volunteer to be “chipped� in 2002 – after the murders of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman – has been bombarded with e-mails over the past few days from parents desperate to keep tabs on their children. As we talk, another e-mail drops into his inbox from a mother of two young children who says that she is deeply anxious about Madeleine’s disappearance and wants to know more about the chip technology.

It works, in theory, by sending a signal via a mobile-phone network to a computer that can identify the child’s location on an electronic map.

But there was the concern at the time over the ethics of tagging our children’s bodies – some groups, including Barnardo’s and Kidscape as well as sections of the media, said that it was a neurotic overreaction that would not benefit children in the long run. So Warwick, Professor of Cybernetics at Reading University, did not continue to develop the project nationally. “It caused such a backlash that we had to step back,� he says. “There were ethical concerns, and as a scientist you have to listen.� But he adds that the point about chipping is not that you would use it to track your children 24 hours a day – only in a worst-case scenario. “You would hope that it never gets used,� he says.


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There are, however, many other child-tracking devices on the market that will almost certainly have a surge in sales over the next few weeks. They range from pay-as-you-go tracking services that follow the SIM card in your child’s mobile phone to electronic wristbands and specially tagged pyjamas. Some companies have shied away from such gadgets, fearing legal actions from parents should they fail for any reason, but others believe that the gadgets are destined to become part of normal parenting.

A Lancashire company, Connect Software, recently launched Toddler Tag, a child-safety monitoring system in which a tag smaller than a domino, which can take the form of a badge or bracelet or may be sewn into clothing, is allocated to each child.

The active Radio Frequency Identification tags work in conjunction with a reader to monitor child movement, raising the alarm when the child moves beyond a certain range. A typical package costs between £500 and £1,000. Chris Reid, the company’s commercial director, says that several readers could be used by a parent to create a “virtual ringfence� that triggers an alarm if the child goes beyond the boundary or towards potential hotspots, such as kitchens or stairways. The company has also designed toddler “Smartwear� – bibs, T-shirts, dungarees, hats and jackets – which comes ready-tagged and, says Reid, may be useful not only to nurseries but to give parents an “electronic pair of eyes� when taking children to theme parks or on holiday.

Globalpoint Technologies, based in Newcastle, offers a “personal companion� that uses a combination of mobile phone and GPS technology to enable you to track your child by computer to within a few metres (cost: £400-£500). It picks up locator signals from satellites and sends them as a text message or via the mobile-elephone network to a website, and is based on technology developed by the Ministry of Defence. It is currently used by companies such as the Royal Mail to track mailbags.

Ian Rycroft, a company spokesman, says that it is lightweight, about the size of a small Nokia phone and can be placed unobtrusively in a shirt pocket, jacket or satchel or worn as a necklace or on a wristband. He believes that the market for the devices will expand significantly.

For older children there are established products such as Kids OK mobile phone tracking, i-Kids and Teddy-fone – a phone with a parent-activated child-monitor option that enables parents to listen in to what is happening around their child, an SOS button and a child-tracking service.

The drawback with all these products, of course, is that an abductor could quickly dispose of mobile phones, satchels, clothing or wristbands. Wherify, an American company, offers a GPS locator watch that it claims is lockable and tamper-proof and may act as a visible deterrent (it works only in America). However, some parents may be uncomfortable about a highly visible device that an abductor would be desperate to remove.

The question that must also be asked is: should we be tagging and monitoring our children to such an extent? Is there a danger that we may lose perspective and fill our children with suspicion and fear? Indeed, could we become overreliant on technology and consequently more blasé about basic supervision? Michelle Elliot, director of the child protection charity Kidscape, says that she opposes the idea of micro-chipimplants but understands why many parents want to use phone-tracking devices or wristbands.

She worries, however, that such devices might hamper children’s development of a sense of independence. “It doesn’t teach them what to do in a problem situation – eg, if you are lost, go into a shop�, she says. “Having children relying on a parent getting to them and finding them doesn’t encourage independence.� Of implants, she says: “We don’t know what the physiological effects – and a child isn’t giving informed consent to what is a minor operation on their body.�

But when children are abducted from bed and even from the bathtub (as a girl in the North East was recently), a nonremovable permanent chip is something that some parents would welcome, regardless of the ethics.

“We have 11 million children in the UK,� says Elliot. “For the past 25 years between five and seven children have been abducted and killed by a stranger each year, and that has not changed.

“Are we becoming paranoid to the point where we give children the message that life is so dangerous that they have to be tagged? There is no guarantee of your child’s safety. But the chances [of something like this happening] are so remote that you have to think about the message you’re giving them.�

But Professor Warwick says that if there was sufficient demand from the public and the initiative was backed by child-safety groups, it would not be difficult to make chip implants – about an inch long – available nationally in a relatively short period of time.

He says that further work may be needed to determine how best to recharge the device but, because it would be in “sleep mode�, it would need only very low power. “It might be that once a year the child has to hold his arm up to a charger,� he says.

He can see no serious health implications: the chip would housed be in a silicone capsule and it would be little different from having a cochlear implant.

And what of Danielle Duval, who, five years ago, at the age of 11, volunteered – amid huge media coverage and with the consent of her parents – to become the first implant “guinea pig�?

At the family home in Reading, Danielle’s mother Wendy said that she did not want to comment on the issue in relation to Madeleine McCann. Her daughter had eventually backed out of the scheme because of intense media interest and had never had the implant fitted.

[hawk]

You know what is so scary? The thought of if the children are implanted then they are literally tracked everywhere, right? But if these monsters wanted to, they could find your kid anywhere and just grab them off the street and throw them into a van and if people saw, so what? Well, the kid must've done something bad, right? Not exactly.
If these people want your children, they have to find a way to keep an eye on them. If they wander into forbidden territory say, then they could disappear.
If they are walking home from school, they could disappear then, too.
If this happens, who's to say where it will end?
Remember, the children up to a certain age are usually used for sacrifices and food for these rituals. I'd say it has to do with hormonal changes in their bodies. When they get to be around 12 yrs or so, then their bodies start to change as we all know. It makes sense to me that they need these children young, so they do not compromise the body chemistry.
But if people do not wake up they will have their children implanted at birth. Without parental consent.

[655321]

If kids get abducted with a chip the kidnapper might remove it with a knife.

[cori]

25 000 - 1 000 000 Euro for a kids-porn.snuff video:

Children kidnapped murdered sacrificed and eaten up in france and elsewhere:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2639644026242398581&hl=de

[jos08]

25 000 - 1 000 000 Euro for a kids-porn.snuff video:

Children kidnapped murdered sacrificed and eaten up in france and elsewhere:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2639644026242398581&hl=de
the vid is in german ,,, do you have subtitles or translation somewhere.
its true we all know that they are kidnapping kids for rituals but the question is how do we uncover their blanket and show them to the world.

[guuna]

My guess is that this together with other headlines such as the 'baby p' case and recent child murders is Manchester are all to the same end, that being to manipulate public opinion to accept the microchip for the 'protection' of our children.

[le chuck]

And there still is no sign of her even now , she must be dead?
But some how i dout that....:confused:

[skyline]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg

Coming late into this thread but have been reading it with interest.This picture of marble arch is significant in my opinion,sorry if its been posted or comments made that I have missed

Marble arch is symbolic of Ishtars gate in Babylon

Ishtar was above all associated with sexuality: her cult involved sacred prostitution; her holy city Erech was called the "town of the sacred courtesans"; and she herself was the "courtesan of the gods".[

The picture displays maddie on Ishtars gate(Marble arch) Ishtar or this case Maddie is the courtesan to the gods,the elite being the gods or decendents of

Ishtars gate was Blue,but marble arch is lit violet

Violet & Purple
These are closely related to Blue. The Bible has many references to purple, which symbolizes regal
apparel and richness. The New Testament speaks of "a seller of purple" (Acts xvi,14). The Book of
Numbers says, "they shall spread a purple cloth on the altar" (iv 13). The Book of Judges refers to the
purple raiment of the Kings of Midian (viii, 26). At the crucifixion of Christ the soldiers of Pilate, as an
act of derision, "planted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head and they put on him a purple robe"
(John xix,2). Universally violet and purple are the emblems of regal grief and death, but in addition
violet conveys the idea of penitence, and purple the ideas of royalty, justice and temperance. In
Freemasonry, but on a purely te

Is the symbolic Ishtars gate lit as an altar?

[belial]

Love and Peace to this poor child.

She will be remembered with love.

Amen.

[rebel 66]

Marble Arch, now on/nearby to the site of Tyburn where up to 20 people were executed at any one time, executions were public holidays and large crowds gathered to watch, a good opportunity for the serpents to gather energy.

http://www.tourblaze.com/london/marblearch.html

[le chuck]

DEATH TO KID KILLER'S :mad:

[empathyx]

I have already commented on this thread but I can really appreciate how much this case has 'reached' so many people. So many views and theories after a while its hard to keep a clear head on it.

The tarot has implied that Madeleine was taken by someone known to the family. I have questioned this many times and to current times, I am getting this still. It is possible for her to be found, but the information tarot gives is that there is a decision to be made and certain stipulations are involved.
Therefore - it depends how one handles the situation.

I see dark and light with it...so I think there is some kind of warring factor over Madeleine - The Temperance card suggests a bad blend of alchemy...such as two families who dont get on, or two views/opinions/principles that dont mix - and it seems unless a solution can be found - ie - decision - the situation appears to be at slow pace to resolve.

I dont mean to give false hope I only say what tarot gave.

I appreciate there are many different views though but again mention my thoughts in case anyone had something similar.

[dorrax]

I feel bad for her, it seemed every photo of her and video clip of her she was projecting love. We all felt it. and the bit that pissed me off is the media jumped out and said "now is not the time for Blame" (for her parents) i say "when the fuck is it time? if you ask me nows the time! fuck her satanic parents" one things for damn sure. As soon as any type of civil war kicks off. im looking for her parents and i will make sure they feel what pain is.

[empathyx]

30 November 2008

KATE: I KNOW OUR MADDIE IS ALIVE

EXCLUSIVE New worldwide appeal as McCanns face second heartbreak Xmas Star gives TV backing

By Tracey Kandohla

Missing Madeleine McCann's mum Kate remains certain she is still alive - and plans a worldwide appeal at Christmas for help in finding the tot. :(

Kate and husband Gerry, both 40, are facing their second Christmas without Maddie - but they bravely took their twins Amelie and Sean out for some festive fun this week.

A sporting hero, who has yet to be named, will front the TV appeal. The celeb will speak as previously unseen footage of Maddie is screened.

She was nearly four when she vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal 19 months ago. But McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry believe Madeleine is still out there. Their faith and hope have helped them through their darkest days.


"They believe their daughter is still alive. The Christmas message will be about finding her. Kate and Gerry do not want to appear themselves but they are keen to invigorate interest in the search."


Sean and Amelie, three, wore Star Wars fancy dress and shrieked with laughter as Christmas lights were turned on by Darth Vader in the McCanns' home village of Rothley, Leics.


Blonde Amelie, who bares a striking resemblance to her big sister, was dressed as Princess Leia.


Sean waved a toy Star Wars light sabre. Kate clung tightly to Amelie. But an onlooker said: "I have never seen her look so happy. She was grinning from ear to ear. It was a joy to see her so content and relaxed."


Mr Mitchell said: "Kate wanted the twins to see the lights. Last year was difficult but this year they are making an effort for their sake."


peoplenews@mgn.co.uk

http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm_hea....-name_page.html


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Regardless of what has been in the press, I have always believed this child is alive and that somebody close took her. I also have felt there was a financial 'plan' of description which was designed or considered in the past.

Time will tell what occurs here, but the maximum period I see for Madeleine being away is three years...so I would expect to see her 'returned' before that three years from the date of her disappearance...so it will be a question of just when in that time period.

I see other people are mentioning how strange it is to have another appeal for finances when Brian Kennedy has already put his fortune forward.

When you consider all these things, logic should tell us that there has always been more to this case then what the press has given....however, like I said mine are wasted words against the press evidence....none of which I have ever believed in the slightest, let alone the nonsence sightings.

[endlessvista]

KATE: I KNOW OUR MADDIE IS ALIVE

You have to wonder if police in Portugal must have some new evidence or some one has finally cracked and is now talking. The only time the McCann's show any sincere interest in finiding their daughter is when the spotlight moves back to them as prime suspects in her death.

[dorrax]

shes not gonna be alive now. they r dragging the story to light again to hit the public at Xmas with fear and hate rather than love. its bullshit

[jagabags]

It is a given that human sacrifice does take place, especially child sacrifice. By whom? Some members of the elite and others I am sure. Why? For their own reasons and among others, to forward the objectives of the New World Order. Attacking children is surely the quickest way to fuel public anger. So by carefully selecting some kids will automatically generate a huge public outcry....MICROCHIP OUR KIDS PLEASE!!!....MORE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLEASE!!!

Madeleine’s disappearance could be linked to this because when one sees how much fear it has instilled in parents around the world, one cannot help conclude that the publicity generated has in fact contributed positively to the sinister evil doers ushering in the NWO!

[merlincove]

The thing is, if the MacCans are truly innocent - and as far as i am concearned they are innocent until it is proven otherwise - they will continue to foster hope that Maddie is still alive, because to accept any other would be to huger step for any parent in this possition to take.

Kate's stance at least gives them hope.

shes not gonna be alive now. they r dragging the story to light again to hit the public at Xmas with fear and hate rather than love. its bullshit

For most british people Christmas embodies a time of joy and emotive moments with family, unfortunately the media will attempt to quash that in any way that they can - digging up this news sets doubt and fear into the heart of any parent, and such is TPTB's game plan. They want to destroy any semblance of hope and joy and happiness that we have, sewing these seeds of fear is the only way they can do that.

They tried to destroy the Christmas theme with their commercial bullshit, leaving thousands of families in debt through over spending - keeping them under control, wrapped up in the loop. And now the media are working the Maddie thing into that same scenario. Bastards.

i don't know if this poor girl is still alive or not - and i think that if she is she is probably not in a good place.

Gerry and Kate have created a media frenzy around themselves, and the Maddie campaign has made them a fair bit of money - i still think that there is a case of negligence to answer on their part, at the very least.

There are a lot of aspects that don't add up.


It is a given that human sacrifice does take place, especially child sacrifice. By whom? Some members of the elite and others I am sure. Why? For their own reasons and among others, to forward the objectives of the New World Order. Attacking children is surely the quickest way to fuel public anger. So by carefully selecting some kids will automatically generate a huge public outcry....MICROCHIP OUR KIDS PLEASE!!!....MORE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLEASE!!!

Madeleine’s disappearance could be linked to this because when one sees how much fear it has instilled in parents around the world, one cannot help conclude that the publicity generated has in fact contributed positively to the sinister evil doers ushering in the NWO!

Forwarding the objectives of NWO is one aspect of this, for sure, but when we look into the whole sacrifice thing we see that there is a specific reason why youg children are targeted. Old legends tell of virgin sacrifice to dragons. Well a dragon is a bloody great big lizard in my book and could easilly be representative of a reptilian manifestation and hence linked to the controlling elite / reptilian shape shifters. They have something about virgins, in all those kinda tales, for some reason. And where people may scream dragon 1500 years ago, we might choose to say shapeshifter and the NWO with their reptilian agenda are tapped straight into the dragon lineage. It may very well be the case now as it was then, the energy and the flesh of children is what they need to remain manifest here? i don't know, i'm just shooting ideas. Feel free to comment :-)

Are there sick bastards out there sacrificing virgin children to some reptilian over lord? i am sure that there are, and i am sure that it happens more than we are allowed to know.

Dean Warwick estimated that 20,000 kids a year go missing and are never found again - and that is in the uk alone. Apparently his sourse was some senior police chief. If we were to see that in the news it would freak everyone out - and rightly so. But it wouldn't help their agenda. 20,000 kids dissapearing of the face of the planet - we'll the sheeple would be clamoring for the microchip then, but it would repell the NWO agenda because when the kids continue to go missing even when the chip is implimented - well then there would be a massive outcry, people would say, 'we trusted you and nothing has changed' and there would be a huge public backlash. So best just keep the news down to a few kids then, keep everyone in check. A maddie here, a Soham there.

And meanwhile the sheeple continue supplying the very bait for the sick NWO reptilian worshiping sicko's. But then they don't see it as sick, they see it as we might see the slaughter of an animal for food - because that is all we are for them, food stuff.

i think we can expect to see another hard hitting case similar to Soham in the build up toward the end game. Or else the media will jump onto a case where some tot is kidnapped and then found due to a microchip that its parents decided to go for after reading about Maddie. And the media will be all over them, there will be tears of joy on the tele and interviews and soon everyone will decide that the chip is a great idea. There is a push coming, because the bastards will stop at nothing to impliment their plan.

Anywho, enough of my rant...

[wisdomgirl]

I haven't read all of the previous posts and not sure if it has been mentioned before but does anyone think the portugal conection is a very strong clue? As we know portugal is a hot bed for child abuse, and when maddie first went missing and people were saying that portugal "is a country that love's children these things don't happen here" :rolleyes:

Poor baby i hope she is alive and if she is she will be a very damaged little girl :( my love goes out the her.

[jagabags]

i think we can expect to see another hard hitting case similar to Soham in the build up toward the end game. Or else the media will jump onto a case where some tot is kidnapped and then found due to a microchip that its parents decided to go for after reading about Maddie. And the media will be all over them, there will be tears of joy on the tele and interviews and soon everyone will decide that the chip is a great idea. There is a push coming, because the bastards will stop at nothing to impliment their plan.


Yes, I do believe you will see increased kidnappings and other hard hitting cases in the build up toward the end game, be it for human sacrifice or for whatever reason. The result is the same. Of course the media will jump all over it....they're like well trained dogs. The media is in the pocket of those ushering in the NWO. Either way now they will be able to sway public opinion in favor of 'chipping' your kids. If you don't, you'll be ostracized for not chipping them when you 'could have,' or if they find your kidnapped kid because of 'chipping' them, micro chipping will get such a good review, even more people will want to do the same.

Let's face it we are living in radical times, and we need to take radical measures to prevent the mandatory introduction of these objects into our bodies and those of our children...children of the world! It really is quite amazing when I speak to most 'relatively intelligent' people who believe they are 'relatively informed', they have not given micro chipping a second thought. Furthermore, they instinctively think that it would be okay! That's until you give them a free 'Reality Check' and explain some of the reason why you don't want to be micro chipped.

Targeting the younger generations with this and other similar information about these secret agendas that is impacting all our lives NOW. It is of the utmost importance. This is one of the biggest challenges facing humanity because most young people I know feel more comfortable talking about their clubbing experiences or how 'wasted' they got on the weekend. What they need to realize is that they are the last generation who will experience 'freedom' as we know it today. This is why I am already teaching my young kids what 'freedom' is. It is something to be cherished and that it's something that can be taken away from you.

Abraham Lincoln said, "The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act, as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of the word liberty; and precisely the same difference prevails today among human creatures."

[merlincove]

Abraham Lincoln said, "The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act, as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of the word liberty; and precisely the same difference prevails today among human creatures."

Hmm, very telling. Interesting that Christ also talked about sheep, but from a totally different perspective :)

[kiwimaj]

i think we can expect to see another hard hitting case similar to Soham in the build up toward the end game. Or else the media will jump onto a case where some tot is kidnapped and then found due to a microchip that its parents decided to go for after reading about Maddie. And the media will be all over them, there will be tears of joy on the tele and interviews and soon everyone will decide that the chip is a great idea. There is a push coming, because the bastards will stop at nothing to impliment their plan.


..Good prediction!! It does seem as if the game is to get parents to want to chip their kids...as Mr Icke talks about, getting the sheep to want it themselves..

But even chipping won't stop true evil, if they want to abduct/abuse/murder a child, what difference will the chip actually make?? By the time authorities actually found the child it could be dead anyway..and if the illuminati are abducting children, why would they put a plan into action that would jeopardise that??...

It really does seem like the agenda re. high profile missing kids is all about chipping.

BTW, I also feel the whole Maddie case is extremely suspect, from the day they so quickly set up a 'fund'...it's a bit like Africa, you keep on giving, but for some strange reason, they always seem to want more money from us to solve the problem that they created in the first place, with all the BILLIONS that has been given to Africa every person in that country should be sticking rich !!..Lets keep on giving to the Maddie fund, I would not be at all surprised if that child is alive, in hiding, until at some unspecified date, she will return...or...she is dead, has been from day one and the parents are the culprits..but just my opinion....:mad:

[jagabags]

i

why would they put a plan into action that would jeopardise that??...

:mad:

Well, if they are the masterminds behind 'chipping', they will be the first with the information and making that kind of error, I mean abducting a child who's already chipped, I think would be unlikely. The bastards are to [I]sharp to be caught in their own net!

[endlessvista]

They must be running out of cash or some new evidence has come in:

Kate and Gerry McCann have released new footage of their missing daughter Madeleine. Skip related content
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* McCanns make Christmas video plea
* New Madeleine Video Is Released
* Related Hot Topic: Madeleine McCann

Have your say: Madeleine McCann

In the video Madeleine is seen playing happily with her family before her disappearance.

She dances around dressed in a fairy outfit, jokingly hits her father with a soft toy and speaks proudly of her new pink shoes.

The clips were mostly filmed around Christmas 2006, the last time the McCanns were together with all three of their children over the festive period.

Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on May 3 last year as her parents dined with friends nearby.

The new video shows her sitting on the stairs of the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leicestershire, flanked by her younger siblings, twins Sean and Amelie.

In the first recording of her speaking that has been made public, she encourages her brother and sister to copy her gestures, saying: "Clap your hands together and one, two, three."

Madeleine then holds up her new pair of shoes and says: "These are my shoes."

Behind the camera Mr McCann asks her what colour they are, and she answers: "Pink."

McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "This message is entirely focused on Madeleine, as it should be at this time of year.

"This, they feel, is a timely and appropriate reminder that she is still out there and that somebody somewhere may still have that vital piece of information that may lead to her being found."

Mr and Mrs McCann will spend Christmas with their twins and close family and friends, but their spokesman acknowledged it will be a "difficult time of year".

The couple started 2008 with a cloud of suspicion hanging over them after Portuguese police named them as "arguidos", or formal suspects, in their daughter's disappearance.

They then marked a series of painful landmarks, in particular the first anniversary of Madeleine's vanishing on May 3 and her fifth birthday nine days later.

The McCanns were relieved when prosecutors announced in July that they were shelving the case and lifting the couple's arguido status.

Lack of Evidence is not Innocent.

[endlessvista]

What's the BBC's ageanda in all this.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uobriXyGngo

[dancing_with_durga]

Yes, I've just seen the vid on the BBC site, and as with so much in this case it just doesn't feel right somehow. A superslick video production, to what end exactly? To promote Brand Madeleine? A couple that claim they've hated the public intrusion into their lives, revealing these (presumably precious) private moments with Madeleine, and turning them into public property? How is this even supposed to 'help get her back'?

I have actually read all 217 pages of this thread, and like anyone can only speculate on what happened, but one angle not raised here so far is a reverse speech analysis. Now this is not a proven science, but from what I've seen there does seem to be something to it, generally speaking, although a lot will be open to interpretation. Therefore I am not saying the following is definitive proof of anything, but it is intriguing. The following extracts have been taken from a video which you can see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27PbmelBviI

Kate, on being asked if she'd wanted to be out searching with local people:

'That search is a lie. So observe them all, it is lie.'

On discovering Madeleine missing:

'Are there not flaws to our involvement'

Other Kate:

Yes I messed it up. Won't surrender.

He leave on her dress.

They find no body.

But we're still the shield of murder

Gerry on why the Portuguese press was so critical of them:

'I try to get some money'

Other Gerry:

My honesty scandalous

She's near a trestle

If the mess could talk, message that would stand out her hair is bloody.'

[demeter_maru]

What a creepy pair of parents and what a creepy choice in music to accompany a missing/incredibly likely dead child---"if I lay here, just lay here.." ...
You would think they would do some kind of an age progression video of that kid sometime.
Or, just for fun, go back to Portugal, answer ALL the questions the police had for them and actually cooperate.

[steevo]

What's the BBC's ageanda in all this.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uobriXyGngo

It wont let me watch that video "in my country" :confused:

[mariag]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg

Coming late into this thread but have been reading it with interest.This picture of marble arch is significant in my opinion,sorry if its been posted or comments made that I have missed

Marble arch is symbolic of Ishtars gate in Babylon

Ishtar was above all associated with sexuality: her cult involved sacred prostitution; her holy city Erech was called the "town of the sacred courtesans"; and she herself was the "courtesan of the gods".[

The picture displays maddie on Ishtars gate(Marble arch) Ishtar or this case Maddie is the courtesan to the gods,the elite being the gods or decendents of

Ishtars gate was Blue,but marble arch is lit violet

Violet & Purple
These are closely related to Blue. The Bible has many references to purple, which symbolizes regal
apparel and richness. The New Testament speaks of "a seller of purple" (Acts xvi,14). The Book of
Numbers says, "they shall spread a purple cloth on the altar" (iv 13). The Book of Judges refers to the
purple raiment of the Kings of Midian (viii, 26). At the crucifixion of Christ the soldiers of Pilate, as an
act of derision, "planted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head and they put on him a purple robe"
(John xix,2). Universally violet and purple are the emblems of regal grief and death, but in addition
violet conveys the idea of penitence, and purple the ideas of royalty, justice and temperance. In
Freemasonry, but on a purely te

Is the symbolic Ishtars gate lit as an altar?

I think you are right , and the amont of i:s all over the MA must be for *Ishtar

[merlincove]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg


Is the symbolic Ishtars gate lit as an altar?

Yeah the symbolism is there for sure.

But also the Marble arch is synergy, and i think i replica (?), to The Arc de Triomphe du Carrousel in Paris, which is hugely symbolic of Sun worship.

http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Paris/Monuments-Paris/Arc-Carrousel.shtml

The Arc de Triomphe is set at the main junction of 12 major road intersections, it also has the rays of the sun all around it on the road and pavement.

http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect4/parisSPOT5.jpg

or type Arc de Triomphe into google maps to see - i tried to post the link but it only links to google maps!

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

This site shows the sun rays

http://satellite-view.blogspot.com/2007_09_02_archive.html

Scroll down to it to see the effect of the rays - difficult to see when you click the link, but on the page you can see them clearly.

Sorry to use links, but i feel that the link between marble arch and the sun worship aspect of the parisian arc shoudn't be overlooked.

Just like David says, it could very well be the illuminati saying 'we did it didn't we and we're showing you we did it but you can't see'

And we know how much they use symbolism.

And, incidently, i wonder what the picture being above the right hand arch is symbolic of, if anything?

[thanksdavid]

[QUOTE=magicmerlin;43834]Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?

I have no clue how this all works (forum) and I am posting this to see where my message comes up hahaha

[time2wakeup]

Thought this was interesting on the news, about a nurse being found after a week in the boot of a car. Her, name Magdeline Makola - you have got the MM connection to Madeline Mccann and wasnt some of Madelines DNA found in the boot of a hired car?
I just found the name a bit of a coincidence. Looking at the article, ChapelHall area of Airdrie was mentioned - again is this clues of a satanic kidnapping. Theres probably more connections that im missing, any thoughts?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Magdeline-Makola-Missing-Nurse-Found-Alive-In-Car-Boot-In-Airdrie/Article/200812415194248?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15194248_Magdeline_Makola%3A_Missing_N urse_Found_Alive_In_Car_Boot_In_Airdrie

[mcmenek1]

Thought this was interesting on the news, about a nurse being found after a week in the boot of a car. Her, name Magdeline Makola - you have got the MM connection to Madeline Mccann and wasnt some of Madelines DNA found in the boot of a hired car?
I just found the name a bit of a coincidence. Looking at the article, ChapelHall area of Airdrie was mentioned - again is this clues of a satanic kidnapping. Theres probably more connections that im missing, any thoughts?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Magdeline-Makola-Missing-Nurse-Found-Alive-In-Car-Boot-In-Airdrie/Article/200812415194248?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15194248_Magdeline_Makola%3A_Missing_N urse_Found_Alive_In_Car_Boot_In_Airdrie

Hi time2wakeup,

Well spotted........"The Powers That Be" are deliberately attaching negativity to the letter M have a look at this thread for more on this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9291



Love
&
Peace

[phildee3]

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed?



This is what this thread is all about,
"sacrafice" being a hybrid of sacrament and sacrifice.

Yes, she appears to have been a victim of illuminati theophagy.

Dubya and the queen ate "spring lamb" out of season, four days after her disappearance.

[gribz]

Sorry to swear but the mcCanns do my FUCKIN head in!!! They should be in jail!!!

[micki]

Thought this was interesting on the news, about a nurse being found after a week in the boot of a car. Her, name Magdeline Makola - you have got the MM connection to Madeline Mccann and wasnt some of Madelines DNA found in the boot of a hired car?
I just found the name a bit of a coincidence. Looking at the article, ChapelHall area of Airdrie was mentioned - again is this clues of a satanic kidnapping. Theres probably more connections that im missing, any thoughts?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Magdeline-Makola-Missing-Nurse-Found-Alive-In-Car-Boot-In-Airdrie/Article/200812415194248?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15194248_Magdeline_Makola%3A_Missing_N urse_Found_Alive_In_Car_Boot_In_Airdrie

I don't think this has anything to do with the McCann's, it is a sheer coincidence. Both Makola and her boyfriend who has been charged with her kidnap are from South Africa. I doubt very much if he even knows about Madeleine McCann - just my thoughts tho:;)

[pri01]

I don't think this has anything to do with the McCann's, it is a sheer coincidence. Both Makola and her boyfriend who has been charged with her kidnap are from South Africa. I doubt very much if he even knows about Madeleine McCann - just my thoughts tho:;)

If you get to grips with the news behind the news thread you'll get a better understanding of why suprisingly unrelated and isolated events are published and percieved as coincidental. One of the themes running through the Madeleine McCann case is the repetitive use of the letter M.

Madeleine McCann
suspect Robert Murat
Spokesman Clarence Mitchel
Spotted In Mingsk, Marrakech, Medjegori, Malta etc.
Specialist search team Metado

You're right though, Makola and her boyfriend may not know anything about Madeleine, but the editors who include these stories in newspapers do. It is they that show the connections for those who see.

[fantomcat]

What on earth would be the purpose of reapeating the letter M?
-it seves no purpose!!!! I've always belived that there was a rabiit ff here, i personally think that there is some sort of wierd goings on here!!!
if the person who did take her, was some sort of human trafficker, they would have killed her after this amount of attention!!! - secound if the person who had her taken was a millionaire, she will never see day light again, she could never be sold on the market, and any one who seen her would either have to be in on it, or they would have to be silenced....
I think she was taken on a yaht and taken to some qiet place in the middle of Cambodia or something.
I also think that the parents were bloody stipid here, either that or they knew what was gonna happen.
You dont leave a 3 year old and a young child in a hotel room, not for her being kidnapped, but simply incase she feel and hurts herself!!!
Something defo when funny here, and your never gonna find out!!! i personally dont think they're ever gonna find her, if the Spanish mafia cant find her, then it looks like a military operation to my, maybe ever soliders of fortune etc, but still, your not gonna find her!, any rubbish about cults etc is bollox! - it doesnt serve any purpose! twisting peoples thoughts is for a political gain, not to make you wounder if theres a cult going on, dont forget, personal paranoia is the biggest cult!

[pri01]

What on earth would be the purpose of reapeating the letter M?
-it seves no purpose!!!! I've always belived that there was a rabiit ff here, i personally think that there is some sort of wierd goings on here!!!
if the person who did take her, was some sort of human trafficker, they would have killed her after this amount of attention!!! - secound if the person who had her taken was a millionaire, she will never see day light again, she could never be sold on the market, and any one who seen her would either have to be in on it, or they would have to be silenced....
I think she was taken on a yaht and taken to some qiet place in the middle of Cambodia or something.
I also think that the parents were bloody stipid here, either that or they knew what was gonna happen.
You dont leave a 3 year old and a young child in a hotel room, not for her being kidnapped, but simply incase she feel and hurts herself!!!
Something defo when funny here, and your never gonna find out!!! i personally dont think they're ever gonna find her, if the Spanish mafia cant find her, then it looks like a military operation to my, maybe ever soliders of fortune etc, but still, your not gonna find her!, any rubbish about cults etc is bollox! - it doesnt serve any purpose! twisting peoples thoughts is for a political gain, not to make you wounder if theres a cult going on, dont forget, personal paranoia is the biggest cult!


When I first became familiar with the FACT of letter M being significant in this case as it was hihglighted by another poster on this forum I decided to check out their information for myself. So the information about the letter m being significant seems to be apparent and if you care to investigate further, you will find, it seems to be a reacurring theme. Why? I have no idea, as I also have no idea about whats happened to her. Parents stupid? I doubt that very much. However, I'd be interested to hear any information you might have found throughout your investigations. This thread has a number of great posts where others have put forward their theories.

Here's a link for the McCann report if you're interested in learning more.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/

[ustane]

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?

Yes. It's got to be what happened to her. And it's also to promote the chip.

[fantomcat]

I dont see any point in researching the letter M in relation to a child kidnapping case.
why don't you research the letter s for Silvester Stallone?

why don't you research the letter c in Mccann - or even the letter N for that matter?

the repetition of any thing cause you to remember it better, the media use this constantly, as a person on David Icke's forums, you should be able to see straight past it, never mind detect / observe it!!!

I have looked at the mccann files website, theres no super using of the letter M - only in her name and the title. Mystery of Madeline Mccann - yeah so it rhymes, it will help you remember it, but so what, how on earth do you see this to be a conspiracy theory? normally a conspiracy theory involves large amounts of explosives, placed in two buildings before you fly a plane into it? are you ok dude?

Oh and the I in the photo on the French arc? - that stands for INFORMATION - they are looking for INFORMATION about the little girl- come on man!!!

As for the promotion of the new tracing chip, yeah they will use this case as leverage to get every one to take it, you can always stab the surgeon thou!!!

and i dont seriously think that this girl was abducted to facilitate the promotion of this chip, its not completely unheard of, but i dont think thats was the plan here, if it was, a few kids would have gone missing by now!!!

Some rich bastard who deals in child slavery has pinched this child, its quite obvious i think, thankfully, children taken are rarely harmed, and are instead actually respected and well looked after, she may be given to a couple who cant have kids etc, how on earth would i know?

[merlincove]

I dont see any point in researching the letter M in relation to a child kidnapping case.
why don't you research the letter s for Silvester Stallone?

why don't you research the letter c in Mccann - or even the letter N for that matter?

the repetition of any thing cause you to remember it better, the media use this constantly, as a person on David Icke's forums, you should be able to see straight past it, never mind detect / observe it!!!

I have looked at the mccann files website, theres no super using of the letter M - only in her name and the title. Mystery of Madeline Mccann - yeah so it rhymes, it will help you remember it, but so what, how on earth do you see this to be a conspiracy theory? normally a conspiracy theory involves large amounts of explosives, placed in two buildings before you fly a plane into it? are you ok dude?

Oh and the I in the photo on the French arc? - that stands for INFORMATION - they are looking for INFORMATION about the little girl- come on man!!!

As for the promotion of the new tracing chip, yeah they will use this case as leverage to get every one to take it, you can always stab the surgeon thou!!!

and i dont seriously think that this girl was abducted to facilitate the promotion of this chip, its not completely unheard of, but i dont think thats was the plan here, if it was, a few kids would have gone missing by now!!!

Some rich bastard who deals in child slavery has pinched this child, its quite obvious i think, thankfully, children taken are rarely harmed, and are instead actually respected and well looked after, she may be given to a couple who cant have kids etc, how on earth would i know?

Hi fantom

i think that the letter M and it's vibration is what is being sited here, moreover than the use of it in context. Physically speaking M has a 26% usage and is therefore as likely to be used in any grammatical sentence than any other letter, but then there are ‘Q’ and ‘Z’ letter that equate to a lesser average so m kinda gets bumped up a tad because of that – but still it is the vibration of the letter M that we need to look at. And when we equate that to Maddie it becomes more prominent because of the commonality of that letter in the whole case.

I think that the ‘I’ was on the Marble Arch in London – I made a link to it in a reflective relationship to the Arc of Triumph in Paris as that is a definite illuminati symbol and the Marble Arch is a copy of that in London, so I think there is a synergy between the two sites.

respect

[pri01]

Hi fantom

i think that the letter M and it's vibration is what is being sited here, moreover than the use of it in context. Physically speaking M has a 26% usage and is therefore as likely to be used in any grammatical sentence than any other letter, but then there are ‘Q’ and ‘Z’ letter that equate to a lesser average so m kinda gets bumped up a tad because of that – but still it is the vibration of the letter M that we need to look at. And when we equate that to Maddie it becomes more prominent because of the commonality of that letter in the whole case.

I think that the ‘I’ was on the Marble Arch in London – I made a link to it in a reflective relationship to the Arc of Triumph in Paris as that is a definite illuminati symbol and the Marble Arch is a copy of that in London, so I think there is a synergy between the two sites.

respect

Hi merlincove, I really don't know that much about the power of letters. However, 'M' is the 13th letter of alphabet and can be converted to 1=A and 3=C also could be known as anti-christ. The I on the marble arch I think was deciphered to represent Isis or Ishtar (otherwise known as easter) or rebirth. I do think that there is absolutely much more to what lies in plain sight and appreciate your explanation.

[the nine]

Some rich bastard who deals in child slavery has pinched this child, its quite obvious i think, thankfully, children taken are rarely harmed, and are instead actually respected and well looked after, she may be given to a couple who cant have kids etc, how on earth would i know?

1, I think you are getting mixed up with the adoption agency, fantomcat.

2, How would you know that children taken are rarely harmed, without knowing children who are taken?

3,child slavery... there are plenty of those in poor countries, without snatching from holiday resorts off parents who are both doctors and would command high profile media attention! where would the services of a child slave be required? unless it is the services of a child SEX slave, which would then have dire consequences for ALL the poor chiuldren taken!


I personally think it is along the lines of MK Ultra, she has been snatched to order. for what reason I shudder to think.

[dragond]

didnt this girl dissapear during or just before world leaders summit? its obvious that she was used as a ritualistic sacrifice, hence the blue eyes blonde hair.. correct me if im wrong guys..

D

[cafetimes1991]

didnt this girl dissapear during or just before world leaders summit? its obvious that she was used as a ritualistic sacrifice, hence the blue eyes blonde hair.. correct me if im wrong guys..

D

Good post.

[phildee3]

didnt this girl dissapear during or just before world leaders summit? its obvious that she was used as a ritualistic sacrifice, hence the blue eyes blonde hair.. correct me if im wrong guys..



It was four days before this gathering in early May,
at which they served "Spring Lamb.":

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/menu_guest_list.html

Spring lamb is born in the spring but not harvested until late summer/autumn.

[gizmo98]

Spring lamb is born in the spring but not harvested until late summer/autumn.


How does all that relate to this?

[dibzzz]

Yeah, but this story has lost steam now, so what's next?

[sophia_h]

`

I had been searching for months, including in medical books,
I had found nothing about changes in iris coloboma,
so this confirmation in the writing is all I was waiting for
to show a CERTAIN LIE in this case.
from Lapieinsky




http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OV1uEyw_erw&feature=email



Madeleine McCann's coloboma is a LIE.


An iris coloboma doesn't change, not dramatically as we can see here, in
appearance.
As I show in this vid, it has been professionally confirmed to me by e-mail.


Here are his words exactly (but I haven't asked the permission to name him
so I don't):

"In essence an iris coloboma will be stable and almost all will not change

throughout life."
------------------------------

I had been searching for months, including in medical books, I had found
nothing about changes in iris coloboma, so this confirmation in the writing is
all I was waiting for to show a CERTAIN LIE in this case.


Photo credit for the main proof (thumbnail): Mr Paul Grover, professional
photographer;& all the other photographers and media - publishers, UK &
World PressCredit to two friends for two edits.

Film maker:


LaPieinsky
http://uk.youtube.com/user/LaPieinsky


Perhaps, but that doesn't change the 'direction' of it. This is pure lie,
what they did. They made sure that the 'world' looks for a 7 o'clock dash in
iris - girl, "blonde, blue eyes", blah blah...whereas now if she's still alive she
must be without a coloboma and looking completely different and that's why
they gave her all these different looks or /& perhaps used lookalikes too,
passed as her.


So that she ...CANNOT be found.



`

[phildee3]

How does all that relate to this?



It is evidence of theophagy (as per the title of this thread).

[gribz]

Yeah, but this story has lost steam now, so what's next?

Its job done if she was really sacrificed so it will fizzle out apart from the odd re-appearance to remind the public about them until they are ready to bring in the chips as mandatory.

Basically its like reading a book and stopping half way and picking up sometimes then leaving it again for ages.

However thats IF she was sacrificed - once again its all about opinions. But it says something when there are 1000s of people uncomfortable with the McCanns and they were suspects. They got out of this thanks to the help of the freemassons and then the powers that be. I actually think the Portugese police have them nailed but are being held back from doing so.

I look at Gerry and wouldnt trust him to tell me the time in a clock shop. I look at Kate and see regret and a scared women.

IMO they killed her by accident and left her in the sea.

[kiwimaj]

Its job done if she was really sacrificed so it will fizzle out apart from the odd re-appearance to remind the public about them until they are ready to bring in the chips as mandatory.

Basically its like reading a book and stopping half way and picking up sometimes then leaving it again for ages.

However thats IF she was sacrificed - once again its all about opinions. But it says something when there are 1000s of people uncomfortable with the McCanns and they were suspects. They got out of this thanks to the help of the freemassons and then the powers that be. I actually think the Portugese police have them nailed but are being held back from doing so.

I look at Gerry and wouldnt trust him to tell me the time in a clock shop. I look at Kate and see regret and a scared women.

IMO they killed her by accident and left her in the sea.


If you go to youtube and watch any number of vids about them, the overwelming view from comments is that something is def not right with the McCanns. I have held an opinion now since the beginning that they had something directly to do with what happened, whether they sedated her..a bit too much, came home, found her dead...Maddie got up, cried out, had an accident, came home, found her dead..or some sort of satanic sacrifice...All I can sense is that they know exactly what happend to her. In one of the vids of the McCanns, Gerry is seen laughing and joking, only a few days after she "dissappeared", not the actions of someone who's daughter may have been abducted by a gang of peados or some such horror...and why have they employed Clarence Mitchell?? Why would someone go from some cushy, high paid govt job to a job where he could be made redundant any moment if Maddie is..."found"...hmmm, lots of thing's in this case simply do not add up.

:mad:

[roxanneria]

http://www.truthformadeleine.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=423

The lies told by the mccanns and the involvement of the british government is most probs damage limitation, a while ago we had shipman im sure that knocked the confidence a lot in the public perception of drs, that they arent all saints and to be basically trusted in every way, to ensure that we keep believing there lies about vaccinations-mmr-mercury, smoking ban implementations, radioactivity is safe - nuclear power - ect ect, they had to get this back - so they brought out the bbc -the governments Goebbels and created doctor who - just to make sure all the sheeple started to trust there drs again and therfore any health, enviromental, scientific agenda the government wishes to pursue and there are plenty :eek:
but an unfortunate thing happens 2 married drs 1 a government spokeperson and who has family with military connections, manage to overdose their child because they wanted to enjoy themselves without having to worry about kids :mad:
davis millipede said it himself in the above link

(11) Foreign Secretary David Miliband admits to having a number of telephone conversations with the Doctors McCann - but won't say how many

During 1997, Mr Clarence Mitchell, full-time PR spokesman for the Doctors McCann, claimed that after the McCanns were made 'arguidos' [formal suspects], they had not recieved any help from, or even been in contact with, any senior Ministers of the British government.

However, an enterprising member of the public decided to ask a question about Mr Mitchell's claim under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Here are extracts from the reply from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office:

"I can confirm that the Foreign Secretary has communicated with the McCann family on a number of occasions. However any further details relating to this have been withheld under Section 36(2)(c) of the Freedom of Information Act which, if disclosed, would or would be likely to, prejudice the effective conduct of public affairs...we had to apply a 'public interest test' to determine whether or not the information should be released. We recognise that there is a public interest in transparent and open government...but we have to balance this with the need to reassure British nationals in need of Consular assistance that we will protect details relating to their situation. In this instance there is clearly an expectation that the details of all communications were confidential and would not be [made] public...For this reason, we consider that the public interest in maintaining this exemption outweighs the public interest in release.

"The Foreign Secretary has not communicated with either Clarence Mitchell or the [private company Helping to Find Madeleine]: Leaving No Stone Unturned Ltd".
It should be noted, however, that from May to September 2007 Mr Clarence Mitchell was seconded to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, for which Mr Miliband was the Secretary of State.

It should also be noted that Gerry McCann's brother John McCann was reported to have claimed that he had also spoken to Mr Miliband. Mr John McCann was a founder Director of the company 'Helping to Find Madeleine: Leaving No Stone Unturned Ltd and continues to be a Director.



Its in our interest not to know the truth about maddie according to them :confused: we cant handle the truth ;) or do they want to continue spreading rumor and lies about public health, environment ect if science is the new religion the drs are the new saints, priest and bishops.

[gribz]

If you go to youtube and watch any number of vids about them, the overwelming view from comments is that something is def not right with the McCanns. I have held an opinion now since the beginning that they had something directly to do with what happened, whether they sedated her..a bit too much, came home, found her dead...Maddie got up, cried out, had an accident, came home, found her dead..or some sort of satanic sacrifice...All I can sense is that they know exactly what happend to her. In one of the vids of the McCanns, Gerry is seen laughing and joking, only a few days after she "dissappeared", not the actions of someone who's daughter may have been abducted by a gang of peados or some such horror...and why have they employed Clarence Mitchell?? Why would someone go from some cushy, high paid govt job to a job where he could be made redundant any moment if Maddie is..."found"...hmmm, lots of thing's in this case simply do not add up.

:mad:

Great post. Couldnt agree more

[endlessvista]

If you go to youtube and watch any number of vids about them, the overwelming view from comments is that something is def not right with the McCanns. I have held an opinion now since the beginning that they had something directly to do with what happened, whether they sedated her..a bit too much, came home, found her dead...Maddie got up, cried out, had an accident, came home, found her dead..or some sort of satanic sacrifice...All I can sense is that they know exactly what happend to her. In one of the vids of the McCanns, Gerry is seen laughing and joking, only a few days after she "dissappeared", not the actions of someone who's daughter may have been abducted by a gang of peados or some such horror...and why have they employed Clarence Mitchell?? Why would someone go from some cushy, high paid govt job to a job where he could be made redundant any moment if Maddie is..."found"...hmmm, lots of thing's in this case simply do not add up.

:mad:


Not to mention quotes about Maddy "having that special quality" and "if she is with a pedophile I am sure she is being treated like a princess" and the incredible ""Maddy will give as good as she gets to her kidnappers".

All these quotes form the Mc's and their mysterious fellow travellers the Tapas 7.

[endlessvista]

http://www.truthformadeleine.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=423

(11) Foreign Secretary David Miliband admits to having a number of telephone conversations with the Doctors McCann - but won't say how many

During 1997, Mr Clarence Mitchell, full-time PR spokesman for the Doctors McCann, claimed that after the McCanns were made 'arguidos' [formal suspects], they had not recieved any help from, or even been in contact with, any senior Ministers of the British government.

However, an enterprising member of the public decided to ask a question about Mr Mitchell's claim under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Here are extracts from the reply from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office:

"I can confirm that the Foreign Secretary has communicated with the McCann family on a number of occasions. However any further details relating to this have been withheld under Section 36(2)(c) of the Freedom of Information Act which, if disclosed, would or would be likely to, prejudice the effective conduct of public affairs...we had to apply a 'public interest test' to determine whether or not the information should be released. We recognise that there is a public interest in transparent and open government...but we have to balance this with the need to reassure British nationals in need of Consular assistance that we will protect details relating to their situation. In this instance there is clearly an expectation that the details of all communications were confidential and would not be [made] public...For this reason, we consider that the public interest in maintaining this exemption outweighs the public interest in release.

"The Foreign Secretary has not communicated with either Clarence Mitchell or the [private company Helping to Find Madeleine]: Leaving No Stone Unturned Ltd".
It should be noted, however, that from May to September 2007 Mr Clarence Mitchell was seconded to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, for which Mr Miliband was the Secretary of State.


Christ on a bike! This should be newstory of the century. The UK government involved in protecting the suspects in the murder of their own child and then lied about it to the public.

It has to be some kind of cult sacrifice thing. Nothing else could explain this level of UK government protection and the efforts gone to protect the McCann's by the UK government and UK and Irish (oh there were even more fawning of the Mcs) Media.

New Labour are pure evil. Journalists are pure scum.

[werewati]

1

i was thinkin that maby Madeleine was Kidnap by Dajjal Antichrist.

Dajjal Antichrist is Blind on the Right Eye! And Madeleine hav a KEY on the Right Eye Key !

i duno i just red somthing abaute Dajjal Antichrist is Blind in the Right Eye

[werewati]

1

i was thinkin that maby Madeleine was Kidnap by Dajjal Antichrist.

Dajjal Antichrist is Blind on the Right Eye! And Madeleine hav a KEY on the Right Eye Key !

i duno i just red somthing abaute Dajjal Antichrist is Blind in the Right
Eye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1f5jiXXjcs&feature=channel_page

[endlessvista]

Madeline McCann was never kidnapped. Her parents neglected her by leaving her and all their chiuldren under 3 alone without a babysitter. Something happened and the kid died while alone without supervision. The parents made up the kidnapping story while their expert medical hands went about disposing of the body. Hence her "father" announcing at a press conference "find the body and prove we did it!". Like some petty common criminal form a 1940's B movie.

There never was a kidnapping. Not by a moslem terrorist, santa or anyone else. This is a straight forward case of gross child neglect resulting in death and the people who did getting off because they did not live on a council estate.

I also suspect the good Doctors and their medical "freinds" were on an all expenses paid Pharma Industry weekend (Gerry McCann's brother is a drug comp rep) and part of the reason the Mc's got protected by Gordon Brown etc, was the Pharma company did not want their name connected to a gang of drunken medical professionals leaving their children to die while they went on the piss at the expense of the drug companies.

There are cancer patients in the UK who have died as their drug allowance was diverted to get Gerry and Kate McCann off. All them posters, anti-extradition legal teams, evidence destroyers, paid false sightings, and endless PR work is not free you know!

[merlincove]

Madeline McCann was never kidnapped. Her parents neglected her by leaving her and all their chiuldren under 3 alone without a babysitter. Something happened and the kid died while alone without supervision. The parents made up the kidnapping story while their expert medical hands went about disposing of the body. Hence her "father" announcing at a press conference "find the body and prove we did it!". Like some petty common criminal form a 1940's B movie.

There never was a kidnapping. Not by a moslem terrorist, santa or anyone else. This is a straight forward case of gross child neglect resulting in death and the people who did getting off because they did not live on a council estate.

I also suspect the good Doctors and their medical "freinds" were on an all expenses paid Pharma Industry weekend (Gerry McCann's brother is a drug comp rep) and part of the reason the Mc's got protected by Gordon Brown etc, was the Pharma company did not want their name connected to a gang of drunken medical professionals leaving their children to die while they went on the piss at the expense of the drug companies.

There are cancer patients in the UK who have died as their drug allowance was diverted to get Gerry and Kate McCann off. All them posters, anti-extradition legal teams, evidence destroyers, paid false sightings, and endless PR work is not free you know!

And also the macans have the maddie thing going on on the internet raking in millions of £ making them a fortune

[titan]

What if it was a planned eh?

Wow

Imagine if they had thought this out and with it being a pyramid organisation in some quarters it meant money and humanitarian work.

Imagine if this child (v pretty....all a bit too glossy) fulfilled an objective for Big Brother?

Imagine if this child hooked in a load of lapsed Catholics and piqued the interest of millions of others because prayers had been answered?

In this financial climate, what we need is a miracle.

Hallelujah.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iP17undSOek

[debs67gb]

what i dint see was immense sorrow with her parents id be so gutted if anything happened to my babies

[endlessvista]

what i dint see was immense sorrow with her parents id be so gutted if anything happened to my babies

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

[debs67gb]

lol

[lightgiver]

Does anyone know what blood group type Madeline is.

and MM do these initials have any significance?

[pri01]

I also suspect the good Doctors and their medical "freinds" were on an all expenses paid Pharma Industry weekend (Gerry McCann's brother is a drug comp rep) and part of the reason the Mc's got protected by Gordon Brown etc, was the Pharma company did not want their name connected to a gang of drunken medical professionals leaving their children to die while they went on the piss at the expense of the drug companies.

You may find information contrary to this. The pharma industry are sacking reps like flies if they so much as offer any expensive incentive as an inducement. The industry is very heavily regulated and most of the companies big and small belong to an organisation called the ABPI.

http://www.abpi.org.uk/

They cannot even send Consultants to meetings and put them up in an hotel without justifying the cost. So sending a bunch of doctors with their families on an all expenses paid holiday will just not happen.

It may have done years ago, but I think that they got their act together and prevented what would have been Government regulation.

[endlessvista]

You may find information contrary to this. The pharma industry are sacking reps like flies if they so much as offer any expensive incentive as an inducement. The industry is very heavily regulated and most of the companies big and small belong to an organisation called the ABPI.

http://www.abpi.org.uk/

They cannot even send Consultants to meetings and put them up in an hotel without justifying the cost. So sending a bunch of doctors with their families on an all expenses paid holiday will just not happen.

It may have done years ago, but I think that they got their act together and prevented what would have been Government regulation.

You are joking me right! My neighbour is a receptionist at a medical centre and every day drug company reps come in with samples, buy all the staff lunch and give the doctors everything from concert tickets to golfing gear.

[lightgiver]

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

At 1.49 it says the wider agenda and it looks like free mason symbolism(compass and square) drawn on the board,any one else notice that.:eek:

That is not good.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2678/gerrymccannparentsofmishy5.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerrymccannparentsofmishy5.jpg)

It is blatant,as any one seen this in a previous post?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5748/ist24157387masoniccompaep4.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ist24157387masoniccompaep4.jpg)

[endlessvista]

At 1.49 it says the wider agenda and it looks like free mason symbolism(compass and square) drawn on the board,any one else notice that.:eek:

That is not good.

Found this post on another group:


http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=28042&start=30

To me the whole thing has to come down to Freemasony and Gerry Mc's possible membership. What brings me to this conclusion is the obvious masonic compass and square images on the "winder Agenda" flipchart and the PJ statement that when they first entered apartment 3A they thought that Gerry McCann was a moslem holding his hands up in prayer. When in fact it sounds like he was doing this:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb307/snafu18/crafty%20images/gmhsd.gif


while hoping one of the cops was a lodge brother. This relief came to Gerry later on in the night.

[lightgiver]

Found this post on another group:

Who knows what is going on maybe she is fine and it was all staged for the chip.or she was kidnapped my some one or some organisation,but yes it appears to have gone all quiet and that goes for the thousands of kids that go missing:(

[pri01]

You are joking me right! My neighbour is a receptionist at a medical centre and every day drug company reps come in with samples, buy all the staff lunch and give the doctors everything from concert tickets to golfing gear.


No I am not joking. Some medical companies will allow reps to buy lunch for the doctors, nurses and practice managers. Usually they can spend around £8.00 per head so for around £30.00 they can provide enough food for all in the practice. That is very different to providing an all expenses paid holiday for your friends and family abroad. As for samples, yes especially if they want the doctor to give maybe some skin cream a try and it's not controlled then there is nothing wrong with that. As for giving concert tickets and golfing gear, reps are not allowed to give away anything that costs more than £6.00 and then it has to be relevant to the doctors work. Example, stethiscope, desk stapler etc. The reps your neighbour talks about may not belong to the ABPI which I said earlier most Pharma companies subscribe to.

[endlessvista]

No I am not joking. Some medical companies will allow reps to buy lunch for the doctors, nurses and practice managers. Usually they can spend around £8.00 per head so for around £30.00 they can provide enough food for all in the practice. That is very different to providing an all expenses paid holiday for your friends and family abroad. As for samples, yes especially if they want the doctor to give maybe some skin cream a try and it's not controlled then there is nothing wrong with that. As for giving concert tickets and golfing gear, reps are not allowed to give away anything that costs more than £6.00 and then it has to be relevant to the doctors work. Example, stethiscope, desk stapler etc. The reps your neighbour talks about may not belong to the ABPI which I said earlier most Pharma companies subscribe to.


Must be in the UK so. Here in the ROI the drug company reps are still visiting medical centers like Santa Claus.

[kiwimaj]

Has anyone else also noticed this about the "last" photo..

How YOUNG she looks in it, compared to the other photos taken? It's like this is an old shot of them, say on another holiday, maybe the year before, etc..?

I have had a feeling she was probably done away with (by the parents), days before, so they had time to dispose of her body and get other things in order, before the police were called...why else would you say this is the last shot when, from what I can see, it is clearly, NOT...The whole shot in general does not feel "right" somehow...

"LAST" photo..

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/mccann-nws-madeline-3.jpg

..other shots...looking alot OLDER...

http://www.cyprusprop.com/images/maddy%202.jpghttp://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/MadelineMcCannPA_468x417.jpghttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00263/mad-185_263897a.jpg

[linredfern]

see post 2101, where the last photo is discussed.

[endlessvista]

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/tpllib/img.php?im=cat_120/1136.jpg&w=240&h=204
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=120&a=1136

McCanns Pay for Madeleine Poster on Moon Surface
September 15th, 2007
by Buzz Aldrin


How the moon will look after the 'Find Maddie' poster is planted
CAPE CANAVERAL - FL - The McCanns and their backers have devised a plan to put a 'Find Madeleine' poster on the moon's surface. The unique poster, which will stretch 3000 miles across, will be visible from earth and will ensure everyone sees it for many centuries.


Mission Control is buzzing with excitement as Team McCann are all set for the next momentous advertising campaign ahead.

The moon mission will cost up to one billion dollars and is financed by some rich tycoons as well as the News of the World tabloid Newspaper.

Using a borrowed space shuttle from Cape Canaveral, there will be a launch which will transport the huge poster onto the moon's surface next Wednesday, weather permitting.

A spokesman for the McCanns informed the Daily Squib about the proposed launch yesterday. "The placement of a 'Find Maddie' poster on the moon's surface will ensure that everyone on earth is reminded about the disappearance of Madeleine every night for the rest of their lives and for many thousands of years after."

There is still some debate whether people will be able to read the phone number on the poster without the use of a telescope, but people will definitely be able to see the words 'Find Maddie' as well as her photograph.

The McCanns were also planning to put the 'Find Maddie' posters on Neptune, Uranus and Venus. However, this was shelved due to costs involved and flight times.

[endlessvista]

Hammer...nail...head



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madeleine mccann: Mccann bites the hand that helped pay his mortgage

gerry mccann, front man for madeleine mccann enterprises, was yesterday allowed to speak for himself instead of through a highly paid family spokesman. Addressing mps on the culture, media and sport committee, he turned his much publicised anger on a media that has in fact gone out of it's way to protect and canonise the mccanns as paragons of responsible parenting.

The compliant british media have spared mccann and his now strangely recluse wife, the venom they have directed at other parents who made a conscious decision to leave their children unattended while they went out drinking - and who in some cases, have been jailed for doing so when predictable yet avoidable tragedy occurred.

However, that did not stop mccann fired up with self-righteous hypocrisy, claiming the media coverage damaged and hurt his remaining family.

From the very moment madeleine was reported missing, team mccann swung into action. Phone calls were made, favours called in, and the grotesque mccann created media circus unleashed. Lurid headlines about robert murat were published and circulated - in fact at one stage mccann carried a newspaper headline that pointed the finger at murat, on the top of his blog. As always, there is one set of rules for the mccanns and a very different set for what mccann has in the past referred to as, "ordinary people".

It was the media's saturation coverage and glorification of the mccanns that helped raise almost £2million for the dubious and controversial find madeleine fund, in the first ten months after little madeleine vanished without trace. The mccanns, along with their family and friends who administer the fund, revelled in the media coverage and took every opportunity to keep the story in the public eye. Apart from the fund being used to pay the mortgage on their luxury house, £123,573 was spent on campaign management which is believed to include the salary of the mccanns’ temporary spokesman justine mcguinness and the fees of a pr agency.

More than twenty-months after madeleine vanished, the mccanns still have a media spokesperson - the man who speaks on their behalf even when the daughter they betrayed is the target of publicly displayed pornographic stunts and sick jokes. Why the parents of a missing child need a spokesperson and well oiled media machine to speak on their behalf has never been satisfactorily explained. Most parents in such situations are able to express their feelings quite adequately without the help of strangers.

Addressing the committee, mccann pulled out the slogan that is well known to those who dare speak out against the two negligent parents he said many had "too much time on their hands", adding: "i feel very sorry for those people who feel a need to do that [write abusive and unsubstantiated comments] and there's something clearly missing in those lives."

how many times have those words appeared in the mailboxes of reputable bloggers and on newspaper "have your say" forums? Well gerry, there is something missing in your life - a daughter. She is "missing" because of the deliberate negligence of yourself and your wife. That is why people like myself fail to play the official mccann game.

It's interesting to note that overseas media have also published scathing articles on the mccanns. In portugal, spain and philadelphia. Yet the mccanns only sued british media groups, perhaps in the knowledge they would be more open to settle without a fight than their overseas counterparts - some of whom would welcome their day in court with the mccanns and their expensive army of lawyers, spokespersons and perception managers.

Mccann failed to mention that as a result of mccann inspired media coverage, the lives and privacy of innocent people including children, were the subject of intense and disparaging scrutiny by the tabloids.

An innocent moroccan family was vilified and belittled because of their poverty after one of the many "sightings" of madeleine. They were not the only victims of mccann promoted media hysteria.. Many innocent children and families were harassed and had details of their lives published for all to see. While all this happened, the mccanns sat back at rothley manor and neither said nor did anything to stop it.

Mccann complained that madeleine had become a "commodity". Yet it was the mccanns themselves who were responsible for turning madeleines plight into a commercial enterprise complete with tacky wrist bands, t shirts and images you could download onto your mobile phone - all sold on an out of the box website operated by a friend of the family who was paid £30,000 out of the fund to do so. Callum, the friend of philomena mccann (the brains behind a mass email campaign), even took the opportunity to approach other families of missing children, to offer his services.

But perhaps there were other reasons behind yesterday's appearance before a parliamentary committee. Mccann said that in today's "changing media landscape" self-regulation was something that the media needed to improve. "i'm not sure personally whether self-regulation is keeping up with that technology and it is something they will need to address in coming months and years."

there is nothing the british establishment would like more than to be able to control the media - especially the new media.

It would not be the first time in this sorry affair that madeleine has been used as a tool for other agendas.

Written and published by mike hitchen, mike hitchen consulting
putting principles before profits

[sir nob jerkoff]

Who was listening to Kate and Gerry McCann?


A few days ago I received an interesting letter from Leicestershire police about the Madeleine McCann investigation.

I had asked them, in July, if they had got any warrants (under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) to use surveillance powers - such as phone tapping and email interception on behalf of the Portuguese police.

The force initially stalled saying it needed to "consult other Agencies" before replying.

After a six month delay, Leicestershire has now claimed it is exempt from Freedom of Information laws in this case due to "national security".

I've put in dozens of FoI requests to police forces over the years, some you get and some you don't but "national security" is a new one on me.

To make matters even murkier, Leicestershire claimed a second exemption because the information I requested could relate to "the Security bodies".

A quick look at the FoI Act reveals "Security bodies" are MI5, MI6, GCHQ (pictured above), special forces (such as the SAS) and the Serious Organised Crime Agency.

Hmm.

Despite claiming these exemptions, Leicestershire seem at pains to neither confirm nor deny they hold any information relevant to my request anyway.

Check out (slowly I suggest) the tortuous conclusion to the three page letter explaining their stance.

"It is our decision that the Leicestershire Constabulary must maintain a position of neither confirming nor denying that any relevant information is held and that this response, which neither confirms nor denies that information is held, should not be taken as conclusive evidence that the information you have requested exists or does not exist".

Thanks, but I think that is a rather long-winded way of saying Foxtrot Oscar.

However, it does beg the question just who was bugging the McCanns after they returned from Praia da Luz?

And what has the answer got to do with national security?


SOURCE (http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/anything-you-say/2009/02/who-was-listening-to-kate-and.html)

[phildee3]

Who was listening to Kate and Gerry McCann?

Just to clarify -
the above post was authored by Jon Clements, not the person posting it.

SOURCE (http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/anything-you-say/2009/02/who-was-listening-to-kate-and.html)

[sir nob jerkoff]

Who was listening to Kate and Gerry McCann?

Just to clarify -
the above post was authored by Jon Clements, not the person posting it.

SOURCE (http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/anything-you-say/2009/02/who-was-listening-to-kate-and.html)

Thanks, Phildee. I removed the quotes since it wouldn't post unless i added something outside them, but i was too tired to think of anything! ;)

[endlessvista]

Who was listening to Kate and Gerry McCann?


A few days ago I received an interesting letter from Leicestershire police about the Madeleine McCann investigation.

I had asked them, in July, if they had got any warrants (under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) to use surveillance powers - such as phone tapping and email interception on behalf of the Portuguese police.

The force initially stalled saying it needed to "consult other Agencies" before replying.

After a six month delay, Leicestershire has now claimed it is exempt from Freedom of Information laws in this case due to "national security".



There is strong evidence suggesting Madeleine met a very violent death.

Leicester Police stated that on 7 September, the day Police wanted to arrest McCanns the British Foreign Office stopped it.

The following is the transcript of FSS information broadcast by Jane Hill (BBC News 24) BBC 6 o'clock news and Martin Brunt - Sky :"An early forensic report is alleged to have mentioned a certain blood spray ... commensurate with a certain type of broken larynx ... some DNA samples found related to cerebal fluids indicates a broken neck or fractured skull." Also "Sousa himself told of this very fine mist of spray that was found in the apartment".

PJ did not release it for broadcast due to secrecy laws. Leicester Police did and acted in public's best interests. Madeleine was not hospitalized, life threatening profound injuries indicated confirmed to Police FATALITY.

Besides the BBC24 announcement, there is the additional evidence of washing of curtains, strong cleaning fluids found on floor and wall to remove blood stains, etc. KM's revealing outburst during questioning 'So you think I murdered my daughter....' before this was even mooted as a possibility. The general consensus during previous discussions on this was that this spontaneous outburst was suggestive of what really happened, given that there was no issue at that stage of murder- the PJ were still of the view that there had been an accidental death.

Stinks to high heaven dosen't it. No wonder the McCann's were filled with joy and happiness within days of their daughter's "vanishing."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p305OiLZRCU/SVIEpnmEhdI/AAAAAAAAC7A/Exj7AeIf_6c/s400/mccanns+cheque.bmp

[titan]

Fake blood used.

[kiwimaj]

There is strong evidence suggesting Madeleine met a very violent death.
Leicester Police stated that on 7 September, the day Police wanted to arrest McCanns the British Foreign Office stopped it.



Stinks to high heaven dosen't it. No wonder the McCann's were filled with joy and happiness within days of their daughter's "vanishing."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p305OiLZRCU/SVIEpnmEhdI/AAAAAAAAC7A/Exj7AeIf_6c/s400/mccanns+cheque.bmp



So why do you think the FO stepped in? I too have felt this case stinks to high heaven, Kate & Jerry must have some connections in very high places.:rolleyes:

[bird]

On May 4, the McCanns are to appear on the Oprah Winfrey Show (fee undisclosed). How this will help find Madeleine is very unclear. How it will promote the McCanns is very clear.

On May 7, Channel 4 will screen a 'documentary' based entirely on the McCanns' version of what happened in Praia da Luz in May 2007 and in particular on the rambling, ever-changing and contradictory stories of how the McCanns' friend, Jane Tanner, claims to have seen the alleged abductor.

There's a petition to try and stop Channel 4 showing what would manifestly be a wholly biased documentary, ignoring for example the powerful evidence of the cadaver dogs who located the scent of a corpse in 10 locations associated with the McCanns - four places in their apartment, two in their hired car, on two of Dr Kate McCann's clothes, on one of the children's T-shirts, and on the pink soft toy 'Cuddle Cat'.

Here's a link if you want to sign the petition:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/6789zyxw/petition.html

[lewi]

I heard they are running out of money and are asking for more :eek:

[beldazar]

Thanks Bird, Ive signed :)

[armoured_amazon]

Me too :)

[mightiswrong]

There is a documentary with subtitles:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63861

Let us know what you think.

[freedom1st]

"For the UK as a whole, over 77,000 children go missing every year."

It's a huge taboo to say this and I'll probably get slated, but why is there so much hysteria over this individual child?

This actually happens every single day and yet this has been constantly paraded on the news for over a week now, with marathons being run for her, businessman pledging obscene amounts of money towards the case and all manner of celebrities making public appearances to talk about her. In many ways I feel like a cynical and heartless bastard for thinking something is amiss here and yet it just seems like this hysteria is beyond anything we've witnessed before and there must be a reason for it. And what's up with her eye?

I would say the focus on this case may have something to do with her parents being doctors.

[nightwalker]

The media circus and obsessive focus on this one child makes me sick - along with the national hysteria and emotional outpourings. It was the same over Diana - totally over the top and disproportionate. I actually find it chilling.

Yes, of course its tragic but as someone else has already said, what about the other children that go missing every year?

The whole thing stinks.

[titan]

Consider just how attractive Madeliene is to say, someone like Shannon Matthews? Sounds a bit harsh, but in this looks obsessed Matrix, then I would say that Madeleine is a very pretty little girl.

I would say that this new peadophile suspect is entirely to throw focus on this 'issue' because the EU's Missing Childrens Day is coming up on the 25th of May.

From 2005:

Notice that Roche hosted this summit too.....Hoffman la Roche

http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/Protect_Children_From_Predators.htm



US/European Leaders Unite to Protect Children From Predators

Thursday November 3, 8:00 am ET

ALEXANDRIA, Va., Nov. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Top officials from the U.S. and 21 other countries adopted an aggressive 17-point action plan to eliminate commercial child pornography worldwide by 2008; establish new national centers in Europe patterned after the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) in the U.S. and Child Focus in Belgium; create a universal three-digit phone number for reporting missing children; establish an expanded database of convicted pedophiles; and develop a system to track child traffickers across borders.

The action plan was adopted last week by the attendees at the first U.S./European Summit on Missing and Exploited Children held in Buonas, Switzerland. The meeting, sponsored by the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children in partnership with Child Focus, was hosted by Swiss healthcare company, F. Hoffmann-La Roche Ltd.

Margarida Barroso, wife of the President of the European Commission, said, "More than ever, Americans and Europeans must stay close together in the defense of the most vulnerable. But the task is so urgent and so immense that all actors must mobilize." She added, "The good news is that we already have the appropriate framework. The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children has already united Europeans and Americans in common action."

Juan Miguel Petit, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution and Child Pornography, said "Our challenge is to reach the problems before the problems reach us ... we need resources and political will from governments and international organizations, but we also need a map, a plan, to show that we not only have sensitivity and good will, but the capacity of developing strong action."

John Walsh, co-founder of NCMEC, host of "America's Most Wanted," and father of an abducted and murdered child, said, " ... 24 years ago, there was nothing. I never dreamed that a meeting like this was possible, or that we could unite to help children everywhere." Walsh was joined by other victim parents, including Michel Bruyere of Belgium and Colleen Nick of the U.S.

Participants in the Summit included government leaders, non-governmental organizations, business executives, law enforcement officials, judges, prosecutors, researchers and physicians. Among the organizations represented were the European Commission, the Council of Europe, the U.S. State Department, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the United Nations.

The International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, sister organization of NCMEC, is a private, nonprofit 501 (c) (3) nongovernmental organization. It is the leading agency working on a global basis to combat child abduction and exploitation.

The 17-point action plan follows.

U.S./EUROPEAN SUMMIT ON MISSING & EXPLOITED CHILDREN
25 - 27 October 2005
Roche Forum, Buonas, Switzerland

ACTION PLAN

Representatives of 22 countries participated in the first U.S./European Summit on Missing & Exploited Children and adopted the following 17-point Action Plan:

Joint U.S./European Initiatives

(1) Promote the creation of new operational centers in individual countries modeled after the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children in the United States and Child Focus in Belgium. The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children (ICMEC) and Child Focus will develop a standard protocol and certification process for new national operational centers.

(2) Work together to eradicate the commercial viability of child pornography by January 1, 2008, mobilizing banking and financial industry leaders. Collaborate in developing a uniform system for the reporting of child pornography by Internet Service Providers. Advocate that every country criminalize the possession of child pornography. Expand efforts to identify children used in child pornography.

(3) Promote expanded research to provide greater awareness and understanding of the true scope of the problem of missing and exploited children.

(4) Evaluate and implement a database of known, convicted pedophiles and other sexual predators against children in the U.S. and Europe.

(5) Develop joint technology to track child traffickers.

(6) Promote the creation of a three digit phone number for missing child reports worldwide with calls then transferred to the certified missing children's call center in each country.

(7) Create and promote systems to more rapidly disseminate missing child photographs and ensure that every country has a viable photo distribution system.

(8) Promote the creation of a common, criminal DNA databank in Europe.

(9) Implement the U.S. Amber Alert system in Europe.

(10) Advocate and promote the implementation of the various European child protection conventions adopted by European bodies. Examine these European conventions as potential models to enhance U.S. law. Create greater consistency and uniformity between the U.S. and Europe on these issues.

(11) Implement joint training for U.S./European law enforcement and other professionals to ensure that there is the highest level of expertise and sophistication in working missing and exploited child cases.

International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children (ICMEC) Initiatives:

(1) Identify "best practices" in the field of missing and exploited children in the U.S. and Europe. Produce and disseminate "Best Practice Guides" to law enforcement, prosecution, social services, NGOs, policy makers and other officials.

(2) Draft and promote formal cooperation agreements between NGOs, law enforcement and other public agencies.

(3) Develop and promote a common, agreed-upon definition of child exploitation, considering economic as well as sexual exploitation.

(4) Explore and advocate the development of sibling support programs for families of missing and exploited children.

(5) Promote the implementation of the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and similar international instruments to ensure that children are protected.

(6) Advocate greater attention on the issues relating to child abduction and child sexual exploitation by the United Nations and other international bodies.


Source: International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children

Copyright © 2005 Yahoo! Inc.

[titan]

Anyone aware of Matthew Delooze's work and theories. This is bang on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4R6HqFcNPA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egerrymccannsblogs%2Eco%2Eu k%2FINTERNATIONAL%2Ehtm&feature=player_embedded

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http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/maddyPA240507_468x390.jpg
The (Royal) Marble Arch


March for the Missing (from the you tube link) Sunday, the 24th of May

From here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2008/10/17/fallingleaves_203x152.jpg
Victoria Park Cenotaph, Leicester

to here:

http://www.crosbyheritage.co.uk/images/photos/town-hall-fountain.jpg
Town Hall Square, Leicester

http://www.sinvision.co.uk/images/clients/leicester_city_council.jpg


And prayers at 11 am here:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/img/M/1078292.jpg
Leicester Cathedral

[pipsicle]

Are they going to keep up this facade for years and years? Every time people show signs of waking up to the truth, another "spotty man" or "suspicious couple" to be rolled out?

I think the next suspect will be pink with wings.

[titan]

Yes, a flying pig with flu no doubt....

[titan]

http://www.childfocus.be/en/activities_3.php

To develop and disseminate knowledge and expertise, Child Focus also regularly receives official visits, such as that made to the Centre on 28 January by the Queen in the company of Mrs Kofi Annan, wife of the United Nations Secretary General.

The European Federation for Missing Children's logo - it's blue and yellow, is a figure running over blue stars to a star in the sky.

It looks exactly like the Star of David. However, since the star that is being reached to is represented as the Sun, I would say this is the Seal of Solomon...with Saturn?

So, what is really happening to all these children who go missing. Is David Icke right (em, it looks like it)


And just to highlight Mr Koffi Annan:

Scots must play their part in new world order, insists Kofi Annan


Scotsman reporter Jenny Haworth interviews former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan

Date: 25 April 2009
By Jenny Haworth

KOFI Annan has urged Scotland to help build a stronger "global community" out of the current economic crisis.
In an interview with The Scotsman, the former UN secretary-general made a passionate plea for Scots to remember they live in the same world as people in poorer African nations.

And he called on Scotsman readers to lead less consumerist lifestyles and cut down on borrowing, to prevent a repeat of the economic crisis which has had an impact around the globe.

Mr Annan, who was visiting Kirkcaldy, Fife, said he was "frustrated" by lack of action to improve the economic situation for poorer countries.

"In today's world, we live in the same boat," he said. "One cannot be prosperous at the expense of the other. I think this (economic] crisis has brought that home much more forcefully."

Mr Annan, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2001, urged people to realise that the world was so "interconnected" that nations needed to work together.

"It's time for us to know that we are in this together and that we should not look at issues in our own national interest," he said. Often, the collective interest is also the national interest but we don't always realise that."

He added that he hoped the current economic crisis would help pave the way for people to lead more "responsible" lifestyles.

"When we come out of this crisis, things are not going to be as they were. People who got into debt because they borrowed and consumed are going to be careful in the future.

"And so you aren't going to have the model where people borrow and consume."

Earlier, while delivering the 2009 Adam Smith Lecture in Kirkcaldy, Mr Annan said the global meltdown had been brought about not just by the behaviour of bankers, but by everyone as borrowers and consumers.

"Actions in one place can quickly have an impact across the globe," he said. "Mortgage defaults in Florida and Fife are linked to health services in Tanzania and Togo."

Delivering the lecture, introduced by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Mr Annan described how the plight of African nations had been made worse by the recession, even though they had played no role in the economic downturn.

"Africans had no responsibility for the meltdown, not even as borrowers or consumers," he said. "This is a crisis that has 'made in the North' stamped all over it."

He highlighted that there were estimates that capital flows to developing countries would drop this year by up to 80 per cent. Mr Annan added: "Demand for commodities has slumped, trade has decreased, credit has dried up, and construction and other projects are being postponed or scrapped."

And he said that Third World governments could not find the huge sums of cash to bail them out as their counterparts could in richer countries.

Just as some people in Scotland were feeling "bewildered, anxious and angry" about the crisis, Africans felt the same, he said.

Mr Annan called for Africa to be included in a global economic stimulus plan and said that the economic crisis could be an opportunity to "address some of the blockages" that have been constraining growth, trade and food security.

Investment in health, education and agriculture in Africa could yield social and economic dividends for the whole world, he said.

Discussion about global issues – but no mention of a politician closer to home

THE Scotsman was given the opportunity to interview Kofi Annan – on the condition that First Minister Alex Salmond was not mentioned.

However, it was decided that, as Mr Annan was visiting Scotland, it was The Scotsman's duty to ask Mr Annan about the First Minister.

The reporter spent most of the interview asking Mr Annan about his views on the global economic crisis and its impact on Africa.

When Mr Annan's public relations adviser signalled that it was time for the interview to come to an end, the reporter quickly mentioned Mr Salmond. But as soon as the words "Alex Salmond" were uttered, the adviser jumped up to stand in front of Mr Annan, and said: "No, that's fine, thank you very much."

The request not to mention Mr Salmond followed a row that erupted in January over the origin of Mr Annan's decision to come to Scotland.

Mr Salmond had claimed during a speech at a dinner that Mr Annan had written to him to say he would be visiting the country to give a talk about Robert Burns as part of the Homecoming festivities.

However, it turned out Mr Annan was actually coming to Scotland on the invitation of Prime Minister Gordon Brown to deliver the 2009 Adam Smith lecture

[titan]

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=co...5&Itemid=38

Praying for a miracle
Tuesday, 03 July 2007


ONE of the biggest international stories of the past two months, the disappearance of four-year-old Madeleine McCann from the seaside village of Praia da Luz in south-west Portugal, came right to the heart of our province on Friday night when her maternal grandparents, Sue and Brian Healy from Liverpool, attended a special vigil at Knock Shrine for her safe return

“It would be the biggest party. I don’t know how we’d do it. Certainly, we would bring her here to Knock. That would be so great. Just a wonderful thought that this might happen and please God let this happen.”

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/zzmaddiepic42.gif


Madeleine spotted in Medjugorje

http://saints.sqpn.com/mary0009.htm

Description
Our Lady, Saint Joseph and Saint John the Evangelist appeared in a blaze of light at the south gable of Saint John the Baptist Church, Knock, County Mayo, Ireland

http://www.medjugorje-online.com/apparitions/medjugorje.php

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/202573/Fatima

On May 13, 1917, and in each subsequent month until October of that year, three young peasant children, Lucia dos Santos and her cousins Francisco and Jacinta Marto, reportedly saw a woman who identified herself as the Lady of the Rosary. On October 13, a crowd (generally estimated at about 70,000) gathered at Fátima witnessed a “miraculous solar phenomenon” immediately after the lady had appeared to the children. After initial opposition, the Bishop of Leiria on Oct. 13, 1930, accepted the children’s visions as the appearance of the Virgin Mary; in the same year papal indulgences were granted to pilgrims. The content of the devotion includes frequent recitation of the rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ymg9VAvJo3E/SPL-PvupN_I/AAAAAAAAF94/3-R9Zl9aGwU/s400/Fatima+sun.jpg
Miracle of the Sun:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun

The miracle was attributed by believers to Our Lady of Fátima, an apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to three young shepherd children in 1917, as having been predicted by the three children on 13 July,[8] 19 August,[9] and 13 September[10] 1917. The children reported that the Lady had promised them that she would on 13 October reveal her identity to them[11] and provide a miracle "so that all may believe."[12]

According to these reports, the miracle of the sun lasted approximately ten minutes.[13] The three children also reported seeing a panorama of visions, including those of Jesus, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and of Saint Joseph blessing the people

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Publ...%5C284douan.asp

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/14/world/po...fer-thanks.html

POPE VISITS FATIMA TO OFFER THANKS
By ALAN RIDING,
Published: Tuesday, May 14, 1991

Ten years after he was shot and seriously wounded by a Turkish gunman in St. Peter's Square, Pope John Paul II visited the shrine of the Virgin of Fatima today to thank her for saving his life and for interceding to free Eastern Europe from Communism

The Pope has often credited the Virgin for his escape from death, and today, on the 74th anniversary of the day three shepherd children said they saw the Virgin here, he again recalled that on May 13, 1981, "I felt your saving presence beside me." Bullet Among Diamonds

A bullet extracted from his body was placed alongside diamonds in a golden crown worn by a statue of the Virgin today. On the first anniversary of the shooting, the Pope also visited Fatima and narrowly escaped injury when a dissident Spanish priest was found close to him with a large knife.

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/ChurchAnd...IITimeline.aspx


On this day: 9/11/1989

http://www.rescuepost.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/29/berlin_wall.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness...000/3241641.stm

1989: The night the Wall came down


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Papal Marian Cross

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Cross

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:T1YY5...=clnk&gl=uk



Vatican may join EU anti-terrorism body

Saturday January 10, 2009 7:31 PM


By NICOLE WINFIELD

Associated Press Writer= VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican is considering whether to join the European Union's anti-terrorism body, Eurojust, in a bid to increase security, an official said Saturday.

Vatican City's chief prosecutor, Nicola Picardi, said the increased threat of international terrorism required new forms of cooperation among countries.

In October, the Vatican successfully joined Interpol, and the Vatican's Gendarmeria has been attending meetings of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe since 2006, he said.

While only 492 people live in Vatican City, some 18 million pilgrims and tourists pass through Bernini's splendid colonnade to enter St. Peter's Basilica or visit the Sistine Chapel in the Vatican Museums each year.

As a result, crime does happen here — Pope John Paul II survived an assassination attempt in St. Peter's Square 1981.

Nowadays, though, the most serious crimes usually involve petty theft. Since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, however, security measures have been significantly beefed up, with visitors now required to pass through metal detectors to enter the Basilica and attend audiences with the pope.

Picardi, the Vatican's so-called "promoter of justice," proposed the Eurojust membership as he outlined the state of law and order in the tribunals of the Vatican city-state during a ceremony to start the Vatican's judicial year.

He said joining Eurojust would be another "important step" in the fight against terrorism, both at home and abroad.

The Hague-based Eurojust was established in 2002 and includes senior investigators and prosecutors from each EU member state. The aim is to facilitate cooperation among members.

In another proposal, Picardi said the Vatican needed a specific law to deal with drug dealing. Someone was brought before the Vatican tribunal in 2008 on charges of drug possession and sale, and there was no law on the books to deal with it, he said.

Picardi said he didn't want the loophole to turn the city-state into a "zona franca for the sale and possession of drugs."

He offered no details on the case in question.

Vatican City is practically a world of its own, albeit one that is encompassed in 108 acres (44 hectares). In addition to its own security forces — including the fancy-suited Swiss Guards — the Vatican has its own supermarket, pharmacy and post office. There are Vatican plumbers, a Vatican phone book, Vatican medical services, firefighters, gas pumps, courts, a mint, license plates, helicopter pad and even a train station.

Most of these services are for the city-state's 492 residents, employees or those with some Vatican connection.

The Vatican also has a vast diplomatic corps overseas, and has observer status at the United Nations.


Ave Maria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KcMPQq6JYs...feature=related

[titan]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2...15875-21382031/

23/5/2009



"Hopefully next year she'll be here to blow out the candles herself," said a message on the family's website.

At the same time Madeleine's grandparents and other relatives went to Portugal to pray for the youngster at religious shrines.





"It is a great comfort to know Madeleine remains so strongly in people's thoughts and prayers.

"We have had many calls and emails to our investigative team

"It may only take one call or one email to unravel this 'puzzle', end the nightmare and hopefully bring our Madeleine home."

[runciter]

• MADELEINE MCCANN AND THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION PEADOPHILE SCANDAL:
It was reported on 7th August that the Metropolitan Police (London) have confirmed in an email that Madeleine McCann, aged 5, who was snatched on 3rd May 2007 in Praia de Luz, Portugal, as widely rehearsed in the media, was abducted to the order of a paedophile organisation based in Belgium. We have been informed that the way this depraved activity operates is that the ‘client’ is sent three photographs of children, and chooses one of them, who is then provided, to meet his depraved requirements. The individual who selected little Madeleine McCann is a very senior official of the European Commission in Brussels. His name has been reported to this service [see below].

• LATE INSERTION: The Editor had intended to WITHHOLD the identity of the senior EC official concerned. However, in the light of the 'triple gunshot threat voicemail' referenced above, and given that in these cricumstances, the lapse of time between the threat and the exposure must be minimised, we have been forced to reveal the top European Commission official concerned.

His hereby shamed name is Jose Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission.

The paedophile and abduction ring is. moreover, actually run out of the European Commission itself. The current position is that the DVD are refusing to release the child, although our British sources have reason to believe that she remains alive. It has been conveyed to DVD that if this child is harmed (beyond the abominable degree to which the child has already been harmed), the consequences will be extreme. This posting will serve as an immediate wake-up call and warning that this child must be released into the care of her parents forthwith and that the use of this child as hostage in any negotiations with British authorities is considered an abomination well beyond the normal range of abominations for which the Nazi pervert DVD are notorious.

All those concerned must be aware of the consequences of further exposure of this matter. Such exposure would compromise perverted politicians in the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Belgium and Italy, as well as the corrupt European Union structures.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/169_operations_of_dvd_dachau_against_the_main_enem y

[deem]

Two weeks ago in the Cornwall media, a little boy had gone missing. I didnt read the artical but got the gist of it cos his picture was splashed all over the front pages.It dawned on me. This is just the sort of scare mongering, that would make parents who are worried for the safety of their children sign up for the chip. If TPTB gave a shit about our kids, Peadophiles once identified, should either be incarscerated indefinately or on release, have them chipped and closely monitered. Whenever they catch these fiends, they always seem to be peados that are known to the police. Its like they keep them living among us delibaratly in order they take our kids and TPTB use it to promote their agenda. They dont have to get the present generations of adults chipped. If TPTB can get us fearful enough, people will demand the chip be available to protect their children. Once that trend starts it would become common practise to have newborns chipped. All with the consent of society. In 40 to 50 years there'd be nobody left that would be chip free.:(:mad:

[rodin]

http://www.worldreports.org/news/169_operations_of_dvd_dachau_against_the_main_enem y

We will reveal in this report the extent to which the world’s problems are attributable to the pan-German Nazi Continuum based in Dachau, near Munich, where we have also separately identified an occult 'Black' centre in the Dachau area at a spot where 8,000 Soviet prisoners were shot dead.
:rolleyes:

[runciter]

:rolleyes:

just above the bit i posted here:

PAEDOPHILIA OPERATIONS, CHILD ABUSE AND 'SNUFF' MOVIES:
The DVD, Dachau, are extensively involved in paedophile ring operations. Selected children are kidnapped, degraded for perverse purposes, and afterwards usually murdered in satanic snuff movies. (Anyone who contradicts us on this matter risks the likelihood that we may publish a very extensive expose of this absolute abomination traceable back to the heathen practice of post-natal contraception which the aberrant children of Israel adopted from time to time by the sacrificing of unwanted children to Molech or Moloch, in the valley of the son of Hinnom, near Jerusalem).

This practice is replicated in child human sacrifices that take place at Bohemian Grove, Sonoma County, California, attended by depraved holders of high office and prominent power positions, every July. Separately, a total of 43 children, who had been kidnapped for paedophile activities and snuff films, perished in May 2007 alone, according to informed experts in touch with this service.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/169_operations_of_dvd_dachau_against_the_main_enem y

[runciter]

Thursday, March 19, 2009

Twin Pillars

In much the same way that when one drinks from a spittoon it's impossible to back out half way through, looking into the pedophocracy leads you far further than you ever wanted to go. (It's all Aangirfan's (http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/) fault. Curse you Aangirfan!)

It began with me looking into the Madeleine McCann abduction. I thought little of it when it occurred way back when, but I'm now convinced that the whole affair was precisely the pedophocracy in action. Given Portugal's insanely huge Casa Pia childcare scandal that swept up members of the government, judiciary, police, and the media - and which is precisely equivalent in scope to Belgium's Dutroux scandal - it beggars belief that the media spent more time pointing fingers at the McCanns than wondering at organised paedophilia. And sure enough, hardly anyone has heard of Casa Pia. Nuts.


Anyway, as one follows pedophocracy links and trails, one heads further and further into red pill territory. It's almost enough to make you sympathise with that fellow in the Matrix who regretted taking the aforementioned. Eventually my trail led me to this (http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=120&contentid=1337&page=2/channel.cfm?channelid=120&contentid=1337&page=1), and this (http://www.isgp.eu/dutroux_and_nebula/Beyond_Dutroux_part_two_Nebula.htm), and this (http://www.whale.to/b/patton.html). To a certain extent I wonder if I should be linking to such things. Only because it's the equivalent of being thrown in the deep end. Hmm... 'deep end' doesn't quite cut it - how about 'the abyss'? Which is to say, had someone shown me all of this ten years (in my Time magazine days), or even two years ago (in my nowt-but-wrh days), I'd have rejected it outright whilst wondering at their sanity. No longer. And presumably anyone reading here has already been through Dave McGowan with his pedophocracy and programmed killers (along with the various discussions here of related wickedness) and so I think it's a step we're capable of.

I have no idea if everything in amongst those assorted links is true. After all, I'm just some loudmouth bullshit-artist living in a low-rent Tourist Town. With my happily unmolested childhood I have no experience of anything even close to this kind of thing - all that schooling under the Catholics and no one so much as laid a finger on me. Thus, I bring nothing to the discussion but observations.

In this spirit, it strikes me that the blizzard of undeniable facts coming from the US, Belgium, the UK, France, Portugal, Italy, and Russia, must necessarily lead a thinking man to viewing those articles' big picture explanations (à la Operation Monarch and MPD/DID) as, if not likely, at least feasible. Very feasible.

And speaking of sniff-tests, there's my ever-handy Media Absentometer™ wherein an occult entity's power is in inverse proportion to its explication in the media. Individual incidents will slip out but they will never be pursued and no big picture will ever be constructed. The media's spotlight points everywhere but there. Certainly I'm talking about the private ownership of the world's money supply, but let's plug the pedophocracy into this concept. In terms of a thousand isolated events never being viewed as part of a big picture, it's right up there with banking. (In this vein, how about we plug the Catholic Church into the absentometer? Oops, bent the needle backwards it seems.)

Mind you, the pedophocracy isn't quite in banking's league. I'd say it scores a 9 to the money-masters' perfect 10. Firstly, things monetary have a distinct leg-up advantage insofar as they're unintelligible to begin with. Even if one does manage to explain the basics of banking to someone, it remains a nebulous concept for them - in much the same way that since GM food doesn't make you instantly sick, the government has never banned it, and it looks exactly like regular food, perhaps there's nothing wrong with it?

The pedophocracy on the other hand, requires no arcane explanation. Everyone instantly gets it - you put 'sex' and 'kids' in the same sentence and patient explanation becomes hysterically unnecessary. Paedophilia will never be airily dismissed like the unintelligible complexities of banking. Which is to say, both the banking elite and the pedophocracy max out the Absentometer, but the latter doesn't get quite such an easy ride.

And then there's Rothschild's balls-out statement 'Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws.' This is him unambiguously telling us that he's beyond the law. And how does the pedophocracy rate on this scale? Hooly Dooly! They pretty much max that fucker out, don't they? And sure, there have been trials and publicity. But the wash-up is something else. Who went to jail for McMartin? The Presidio/West Point affair? The Franklin scandal? Jersey? North Wales? L'Affaire Dutroux? Would I be right in thinking that all up it was two people maybe? Wow. And sure, the Rothschilds get a lovely, comfy obscurity, and paedophilia in Belgium was bigger than Ben Hur, but either way the ballpark is the ballpark.


For mine, these are the twin pillars of occult power. Oh wait, I was just about to wonder at the relationship between the two, when a thought occurred. What if we were to take the metaphor one step sideways and call them the Two Towers? Ring a bell? What if I was to say that banking was Sauron's base, and the pedophocracy was Saruman's? That kind of works - one is subordinate to the other; the destruction of one will not automatically lead to that of the other; and both have utility for their counterpart; and yet each can independently act in their own interests. Above all however, the one ring rules and the fundamental relationship of who's master of whom remaining unchallenged.

But not wishing to take anything for granted, let's reverse things. I can see no way that the pedophocracy could seize the banker's power. On the other hand the pedophocracy could belong to anyone. You lay your hands on their video collection and you have them by the balls. Frankly I see that as being the whole point of it. Hmm... I seem to recall that Interpol has a database of every kiddy porn image and movie ever made. A thing worth having, that, wouldn't you say?

And besides, there's no way the whole world could come under pedophocracy control. 'We are all paedophiles now', ha ha. As if. No, I have the pedophocracy pegged as servant to banking's master. It's a means of control via corruption. Someone need merely dip their toe in the pedophocracy pool and that's them done for. They're owned. And the idea of a corruption-based control mechanism existing to further the interests of a corruption-based control mechanism strikes me as an idea disappearing up its own arse. You wouldn't bribe a politician because you're nutty for bribery, if you can dig it. You bribe them to achieve something. That makes sense, doesn't it?

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Oh dear, it seems I started on one thing and ended up with another. As usual I point my laser at a mirror ball. Brilliant. And now I've gone on too long. But rather than viewing this as waffling, why don't I do my usual trick and declare it to be the macro preface to the next piece's micro. Up shortly - Operation Monarch, Ursula LeGuin, and 'Know Thyself'.

http://churchofnobody.blogspot.com/2009/03/twin-pillars.html

[ipopacific]

the madelin case was a way for those in the know to warn the public hopefully for them to wake up the doctors are trying to micro chip the children i have a book on exactly wat the illuminati are tryin to do it needs to be stopped help me post a link so u can see wat they are doin . how do i post it on the forrum

[carlperkins]

Curious to see this thread again. This thread had a huge impact on me when the case started, I had just finished Davids The Biggest Secret when it all kicked off. I found it difficult to actually comprehend the scale of this disgusting trade and the outrageous cover ups that exist. And yet young people are still happy to become freemasons thinking how great they are. It made me sick to be able to predict how the Jersey case was going to get covered up from the knowledge that I have gained. So the thread is moved now?

[phildee3]

young people are still happy to become freemasons thinking how great they are.



You resurrect a thread about child sacrifice to attack masonry?

Shame on you!

[keystone]

You resurrect a thread about child sacrifice to attack masonry?

Shame on you!Despicable. IMO.

Cheers

[carlperkins]

Shameful and dispicable is the behaviour of the secret societies that keep attrocities like this case covered up through their influence in the various services and media. Hiding behind shrouds of goodness, giving the image you can do no wrong, ha! What sick, cruel joke allows it to go on? You don't fool me....

[carlperkins]

I don't really want to be the last poster on this thread..... bumped.

[phildee3]

I don't really want to be the last poster on this thread..... bumped.

Okay.
I don't mind having the last word -

Theophagy.

[johntitor]

BUMP... People are looking for this thread....

[aratron]

i ve noticed a lot of support for paedophiles throughout this forum.

totally infiltrated. i've even had hate emails as a result.

[steevo]

i ve noticed a lot of support for paedophiles throughout this forum.

totally infiltrated. i've even had hate emails as a result.

Evidence ?

[aratron]

Evidence ?

i've never done this before on any forum, but for you i am willing to make an exception. you are now on my ignore list.

that is all.

[carlperkins]

Okay.
I don't mind having the last word -

Theophagy.

Okay, thanks for that Phildee3, I looked up the meaning of Theophagy way back last year, it seemed to be an excellent last word summing up the story of the thread, but not to be, eh? Who's been looking for this thread?