the illumanati wants you to see Soap/Reality

[tiswas]

As a recovering mind-controlled sheeple lady, I feel these programmes are used by the ruling classes to stop us from being aware about what is really happening.
I am still trying to unhook myself from Eastenders, but it is better than that ITV rubbish. I have only started seeing these soaps and reality shows since 2001, and I begin to feel a bit 'dumbed' down as a result, but seriously folks I was more aware and happy with life since I started to watch what the illumanti is giving us. I haven't watched eastenders since the last week of August, and now I'm becoming more aware with everything. As for Big Brother, don't you think stupidity is welcomed.

[hagbard_celine]

Don't get me started on soap operas!

Eastenders is definitely the biggest psy-op of them all, especially when it comes to male sexually conformist ideals. The programme promotes ruthlessness and aggression in the form of charcaters like Phil Mitchell, Dennis Rickman and Steve Owen. These characters all all "alpha males". They're rich, powerful and very attractive to the programme's female characters and conventionally successful. The viewer is then warned off from being a "nice guy" by portraying the male characters with these traits as failures, ineffectual, downtrodden and sexually untouchable. Good examples are Gus, Minty, Mark Fowler and Robby Jackson. Every so often a recurring plot line is employed where one of the alpha-males is in conflict with one of the "nice guys", usually over a woman and the alpha-male invariably wins.

There is one exception: Alfie Moon. When the charcater was first introduced the producers didn't intend him to become as popular with female viewers as he did, and they then were forced to adapt the storyline around his role to accomodate. This is a good sign as it shows that the pay-op is failing. But they soon hit back with more propaganda over Gus' ill-fated relationship with Sonia.

[tiswas]

I would always remember that Beeb advert, 'everybody watching it' except me at the time. I was really happy in life.
Also what is this meadi driven cr@p about Coronation Street being good?, it's on all the time!:mad:
I agree with Hagbard, but did you notice on Easties its always the villian who is the Hero.

[mountain]

HOW TRUE!!!
I have been tring to explain to people, close firends and family, how television "programmes" work. The illuminate are an overly malevolent force, stimulated by aggression, fear, violence, etc. This is a DNA disruption or corruption.

Their main objective is to stimulate the masses into a hive mentality via TV (immulating humans actors to produce the desired script for them) in which they can literally tap into our minds for manipulation, to provide the energy, frequency they need and consume.

Ever wonder why most people chose to identify with characters on TV? Even modeling themselves after them?

They use subliminals based on the Male/Negative astrological signa and planets.

Check out Michael Tsarion
PEACE & LOVEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngs3iTvwGgM
15 parts

[shane]

Eastenders is like one big negative mantra, basically telling you that if you're a nice person, forget about getting into a relationship or a business venture because it will invariably fail. In other words, don't go getting ideas above your station.

It also promotes the idea that if you ever go outside the law, even if you hurt no-one, your "friends and family" will judge you and you will always get caught.

The only characters who ever seem to get away with anything are the power-hungry, survival-minded, self-serving Mitchell family (symbolic of the elite bloodlines perhaps?)

[infinitely free]

As a recovering mind-controlled sheeple lady, I feel these programmes are used by the ruling classes to stop us from being aware about what is really happening.
I am still trying to unhook myself from Eastenders, but it is better than that ITV rubbish. I have only started seeing these soaps and reality shows since 2001, and I begin to feel a bit 'dumbed' down as a result, but seriously folks I was more aware and happy with life since I started to watch what the illumanti is giving us. I haven't watched eastenders since the last week of August, and now I'm becoming more aware with everything. As for Big Brother, don't you think stupidity is welcomed.

Well, we're all too familiar with soaps, like eastenders, coronation..., and all that
I've never been a huge fan! But last year i happened to watch a Mexican soap. The difference between Mexican and English soaps, seems great!
It's all the same s***, but English soaps always seem to emanate depressive fellings
Why would that be?
Well, for a starts, why do we have to torture ourselves with the Illusury lives, of some silly people? We are in enough illusion (shit), as it is!
I laugh in the face of soaps!! :D

[weston white]

Just do what I did, about 6 months ago (I the time I stumbled by accident onto what is really going on in our world and realized that the major media is in on it) I canceled my cable in protest. Now I have an extra $60 every month and so much more free time to do real life things... I did purchase several DVD sets to my favorite shows to watch whenever I need a little TV time, which is even better because now I can watch shows when I want to instead of whenever they happen to be on. Most of the shows I use to watch I have long since forgotten about, I do not regret getting the cable out of my house at all and I keep up on the news by checking out alternative news sites and watching imports bites from YouTube and Google Video.

[thorleyart]

I haven't watched a single soap in over ten years, Eastenders in full of people shouting and arguing constantly, I don't need to watch this kind of utter dogshit...

[the infinite one]

Good comments people! and I couldn't agree with you more!

My sisters are all hooked in watching them all, I was use to watch it before I got into Icke and now I have more time on my hands and more aware of its bullshit!

However, I love watching The Fresh Prince of Bel-air, Columbo and Knight Rider.

Eastenders and all the other soaps are just bullshit multi-cultural propaganda!!

[auron]

Eastenders is like one big negative mantra, basically telling you that if you're a nice person, forget about getting into a relationship or a business venture because it will invariably fail. In other words, don't go getting ideas above your station.

It also promotes the idea that if you ever go outside the law, even if you hurt no-one, your "friends and family" will judge you and you will always get caught.

The only characters who ever seem to get away with anything are the power-hungry, survival-minded, self-serving Mitchell family (symbolic of the elite bloodlines perhaps?)
Set these words in stone.

:cool:

[hagbard_celine]

Set these words in stone.

:cool:


The Mitchell family, especially Grant and Phill are the "Alpha males". it's promoting an ideal that we're all encoraged ("encouraged"? More like browbeaten, indoctinated) to become. They are role models for the New Man. The "old age man" is the one they're trying to stop us being. they are typified by the "nice guy" characters like Gus, Mark Fowler and Lofty. (if anyone remembers Lofty) They take on the role of victim, downtrodden and exploited (usually by the Alpha-males) and sexually untouchable. It's a warning to the male population not be caring and sensitive.

I'm not surprised how M.K.enders has been exploited as an opportunity to instil programming into our colective psyche.


I've avoided watching the Christmas spacials of TavistockEnders this year. it means I've been separated from my family for 2 hours on Xmas day!

[panic_stricken]

holyoaks. Soap for the younger generation. Can't put into words how much i dislike having to watch that programme without it being on mute

[hagbard_celine]

holyoaks. Soap for the younger generation. Can't put into words how much i dislike having to watch that programme without it being on mute

They get more and more banal. The fact that such poor quality drama is lapped up shows that there is some other enticement at work, something subliminal an subconscious.

[orsen]

I cant get away from the tv, as my partner watches the damb thing, and my computer is in the same room.
Even though im not watching it im hearing it, and the audio changes's so much between different programs (obviously mostly to do with the recording of the audio) but the frequency compressions are just max'd out on most adverts nowadays its painfull, god knows what kind of sub's they are shouting out.
But between the two biggest soaps, Eastenders & Coranation st , do you ever notice they follow the same topics, so much so its just laughable, its almost like 'this month we are programing you about death' kevin wicks and now vera duckworth.
I reckon they use the same script writer.

God bless the headphones

[mari]

There's a programme on this morning, on CH4 11 am, (uk) called 'Who really runs the world'
It will be interesting to see if C4 does another hatchet job on truth-seekers'
Allthough, the fact that they've included in the title 'conspiracy therories' tells me what my gut theory is!

[mari]

Looking good so far!

[mari]

Yep - hatchet job Dr Chris french, 'official debunker' for the media spouting off about how 'difficult childhoods' can leave you unstable & easy fodder for C Theories.

[siscid]

Yep - hatchet job Dr Chris french, 'official debunker' for the media spouting off about how 'difficult childhoods' can leave you unstable & easy fodder for C Theories.

ROFL! I love it when these pompous doctors think they know everything just because they have a degree in something.. Its like the whole "Microsoft Certified" BS, oh so they have a certificate in computer engineering! They must know best 100% of the time. Give me a break.. those people I wouldn't touch with a bargepole let alone give them my computer to fix.. Thank goodness I'm computer savvy to a certain extent!

But back on topic:

Those soaps do my f`in face in. My sister watches those kinds of programs all the time and just can't stand to be in the same at the time.

I cant get away from the tv, as my partner watches the damb thing, and my computer is in the same room.
Even though im not watching it im hearing it, and the audio changes's so much between different programs (obviously mostly to do with the recording of the audio) but the frequency compressions are just max'd out on most adverts nowadays its painfull, god knows what kind of sub's they are shouting out.
But between the two biggest soaps, Eastenders & Coranation st , do you ever notice they follow the same topics, so much so its just laughable, its almost like 'this month we are programing you about death' kevin wicks and now vera duckworth.
I reckon they use the same script writer.

God bless the headphones

I feel really bad for you mate. But I have a suggestion! I recommend you get a wireless router + Wireless Network card and set up a Wireless Network so you can move the computer to another room but still have internet and stuff so you can carry on in peace. I'm not sure of the layout of your home but if you got the space to move to somewhere else in the house then I would seriously recommend it! Just be careful of what router you buy. Lots of wireless routers are terrible and very faulty.

You could also get a set of these:

D-Link DHP-301/B Powerline HD Starter Kit (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-093-DL)

That would be a better option if you do not like the wireless setup. Though I'm not sure of the performance of them.

Sorry to everyone for hi-jacking the thread.. Please forgive me :(

[the_mole]

A friend of mine made a good point, which I have added a lot to:

In the 70s-80s, you had three - four tv channels. That's all there were, none of this HDTV etc nonsense. Therefore you may end up watching a programme by chance. You had nothing else, so you were contented with that. Nowadays we have 50+ channels at our disposal, so if David Attenborough's documentary was only decent thing on the main four, instead of watching it, we'd flick over to some soap rerun etc (well actually I wouldn't, but others would) so instead of learning, you're not. For example I remember I watched Bodymatters and Tomorrow's World on occasions. Where are they now? TW on one occasion I recall had a piece on tailoring a robot arm to the body electrical current of the individual so that they now actually worked because it didn't use a universal understanding, but a tailored one.

Then whilst there are lots of arguements to excuse and condone piracy, I want to make this point. If ISPs are forced to regulate the Internet and who downloads what, how is the information that is out there on the Illuminati and such going to be read/viewed. It is wrong, but discovering the odd video by accident is how you learn. If that is taken away, and what you are allowed to download moderated, ie only download a legal Blair/Bush video, people are manipulated, propaganda etc. It shouldn't be down to the ISPs, it should be down to the individual and respect etc. We should still have the right to make a decision.

What needs to happen is for someone to create a torrent system you subscribe and log into that shares information on conspiracy and such legally. If you pay a yearly subscription and some contributions are made for free, then it cannot be shut down and it cannot be blocked under 2009 piracy laws.

Soaps are designed to keep you in survival mode and that reality. No thanks, unfortunately, they are taking over under the guise of comedy and relaunch of careers. Even Doctor Who has had elements of soap.

[augur]

The Mitchell family, especially Grant and Phill are the "Alpha males". it's promoting an ideal that we're all encoraged ("encouraged"? More like browbeaten, indoctinated) to become. They are role models for the New Man. The "old age man" is the one they're trying to stop us being. they are typified by the "nice guy" characters like Gus, Mark Fowler and Lofty. (if anyone remembers Lofty) They take on the role of victim, downtrodden and exploited (usually by the Alpha-males) and sexually untouchable. It's a warning to the male population not be caring and sensitive.

Fully agree, I noticed this a long time ago! I don't watch much TV at all (especially soaps) but I used to catch segments when the family was watching them, and it did seem as though certain character archetypes were/are being encouraged or discouraged: "this is how 'real life' is". As you say, the promotion of 'reptilian brain' behaviour seems to be a theme.

Triune brain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Triune brain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't even get me started on Hollyoaks...

[craven dark]

I've got no interest in soap opera's, i don't care if the Mitchell brothers have got someone up the duff or seth's got a problem with the pigs.
tptb arn't going to get me.

[craven dark]

Just to rant a little bit more, there's so much shit going on in real life, why whould you want to watch it all again on T.V.?:mad:

[augur]

Just to rant a little bit more, there's so much shit going on in real life, why whould you want to watch it all again on T.V.?

The fact that such poor quality drama is lapped up shows that there is some other enticement at work, something subliminal an subconscious.

Methinks hagbard might be right with the 'subliminal attraction mechanism' theory (given that, as you say craven, soaps are, well ... shit), possibly along the lines of the 'secret sales pitch' (sex sells).

[craven dark]

Methinks hagbard might be right with the 'subliminal attraction mechanism' theory (given that, as you say craven, soaps are, well ... shit), possibly along the lines of the 'secret sales pitch' (sex sells).

God damm right, Tptb are trying to replace real fears with manufactured ones!:mad:

[marpat]

I never watch any of these soaps. Not only do I find the constant arguments depressing but the sheer stupidity of some of the story lines is just too much. And watching people do everyday stuff is really cutting edge excitement.

I think Eastenders is my most hated one. I'm sure the word 'family' is put in there like a bloody mantra as it is used that often. I also find it a little disturbing that nearly everybody is related. There are probably only 2 or 3 gene pools for the whole place, gotta be wrong that.

I don't know why the guys at work are into Hollyoaks. Fair enough there are lots of nice women on it but it's just all the other shit you have to get through to even bother.

I personally think entertainment in general is being used to keep peoples minds distracted. Bored minds become nosey minds and that is not what the government want. Also, look at things like football, the slavish devotion to it, the glamour of it. People have their false gods, they are called footballers. Worshipped as heroes for playing a game while people doing jobs that save lives get pain nothing compared to them. Bend you knee to Moloch-Beckham.

My orange box is about to collapse,, aargh.

[augur]

I personally think entertainment in general is being used to keep peoples minds distracted. Bored minds become nosey minds and that is not what the government want.

Yep, massive amounts of distraction!

Also, look at things like football, the slavish devotion to it, the glamour of it. People have their false gods, they are called footballers. Worshipped as heroes for playing a game while people doing jobs that save lives get pain nothing compared to them. Bend you knee to Moloch-Beckham.

Yeah, it seems like its there for people to pour their passion/energy into.

11. The general number of magick, or energy tending to change.

11 players to a team...

[marpat]

The idea is magick being 11 is not anything dodgy though. According to Crowley any act that is done as an act of will constitues a change of consciousness and therefore an act of magick. You have to put it into what he descibes as an act of magic.


11 can be reduced to 2, polarised force which is necessary for any act of creation or change.

[ramesees]

The Mitchell family, especially Grant and Phill are the "Alpha males". it's promoting an ideal that we're all encoraged ("encouraged"? More like browbeaten, indoctinated) to become. They are role models for the New Man. The "old age man" is the one they're trying to stop us being. they are typified by the "nice guy" characters like Gus, Mark Fowler and Lofty. (if anyone remembers Lofty) They take on the role of victim, downtrodden and exploited (usually by the Alpha-males) and sexually untouchable. It's a warning to the male population not be caring and sensitive.


It seems that they have succeeded as it appears women dont want caring men, they just want to be treated like shit and walked on, as that seems to "attract" them, you know, make them all wet and pliable for these alpha males to do what they want.

However when beta males come along and either try the same thing (ie imitate alpha male behaviour), or act like themselves they get knocked back, messed around with, rejected, laughed at, told "oh lets just be friends...while I go fuck this other guy who treats me like a dog.....but I just cant stop thinking about him, blah blah blah".

I just cant figure out the pattern, the magic combination that drops a woman's barriers. And after plenty of reading, its the cocky/funny attitude that works, or a show of confidence that does it, or whatever, but I would just love to meet a woman, or at least be told they exist who doesnt play games, who says exactly what shes thinking, who isnt afraid of her feelings etc....

Anyway rant over, nothing to see folks, move on

[hagbard_celine]

I I think Eastenders is my most hated one. I'm sure the word 'family' is put in there like a bloody mantra as it is used that often. I also find it a little disturbing that nearly everybody is related. There are probably only 2 or 3 gene pools for the whole place, gotta be wrong that.
.

Genetic stagnation? Inbreeding? There's a thought.:cool: And the number of sexually-active characters is at an all time low. So many times Illuminati-insiders reveal the plans for a smaller propulation, genetically different and with a different social and cultural make-up. That is preceisely the kind of plan Eastenders is furthering!

[hagbard_celine]

It seems that they have succeeded as it appears women dont want caring men, they just want to be treated like shit and walked on, as that seems to "attract" them, you know, make them all wet and pliable for these alpha males to do what they want.

However when beta males come along and either try the same thing (ie imitate alpha male behaviour), or act like themselves they get knocked back, messed around with, rejected, laughed at, told "oh lets just be friends...while I go fuck this other guy who treats me like a dog.....but I just cant stop thinking about him, blah blah blah".

I just cant figure out the pattern, the magic combination that drops a woman's barriers. And after plenty of reading, its the cocky/funny attitude that works, or a show of confidence that does it, or whatever, but I would just love to meet a woman, or at least be told they exist who doesnt play games, who says exactly what shes thinking, who isnt afraid of her feelings etc....

Anyway rant over, nothing to see folks, move on

It's OK, mate. I know how you feel. I'm definitely one of these "beta males" and I'm not going to change my ways just to get my leg over more often! A lot of blokes do though, and I know that for a fact; they've told me. They feel that the only way they can be "in the game" so to speak is to be a Phil Mitchell or Dennis Rickman.

This is a situation that is getting worse. Sex is becoming a more and more exclusive activity. It's almost becoming like primate dominence with the reproducing males and "batchelors" kept separate. The "suitable" genomes and the "unsuitable" one listed for deliberate extinction. Never underestimate the role mass media social propaganda platforms like Eastenders play in this! Edward L Bernays, among others, understood the power those behind the camera and printing press have. His advice has not gone unheded!

[hagbard_celine]

It seems that they have succeeded as it appears women dont want caring men, they just want to be treated like shit and walked on, as that seems to "attract" them, you know, make them all wet and pliable for these alpha males to do what they want.

However when beta males come along and either try the same thing (ie imitate alpha male behaviour), or act like themselves they get knocked back, messed around with, rejected, laughed at, told "oh lets just be friends...while I go fuck this other guy who treats me like a dog.....but I just cant stop thinking about him, blah blah blah".


I've lost count of how many times TavistockEnders has repeated this same plot! It goes right back to the beginning of the series in the 80's with Lofty.:rolleyes:

[cataleptik]

As a recovering mind-controlled sheeple lady, I feel these programmes are used by the ruling classes to stop us from being aware about what is really happening.
I am still trying to unhook myself from Eastenders, but it is better than that ITV rubbish. I have only started seeing these soaps and reality shows since 2001, and I begin to feel a bit 'dumbed' down as a result, but seriously folks I was more aware and happy with life since I started to watch what the illumanti is giving us. I haven't watched eastenders since the last week of August, and now I'm becoming more aware with everything. As for Big Brother, don't you think stupidity is welcomed.


were you really banned?
one thing to think about is YES, that is a means of reconditioning "unsustainable aesthetics".
until a different sort of perspective is engaged by art, it will go on, because that's what passes...

the Dadaists...you make me think of the Dada movement and I think of it often. One perspective is that painters were being seduced by the rich "patrons" to make paintings that were not visionary or challenging...

...the same still lifes all the time, because there was money.

Dada emerged out of this and even declared itself "anti-art" but it was pure art -- the idea was simply that the mainstream had asserted, and it was materialistic and unvisionary.

with television, the stupids who rule KNOW that t.v. programming can be used to create "roles" for people, and to create basically unrealistic attitudes about what can be expected in relationships - that extend beyond the box. what to do about it though, besides not watching...


...for news i took the habit of taping a piece of cardboard to the screen, and simply LISTENING to the news, as I felt targeted by DISTRACTINGLY LOVELY "news models" -- and they were picked for that.

it kept men watching, but more "diabolically" it would keep people glued to "the boob tube" -- not paying attention to the stories, just looking at Saachi Koto or Laurie Dhue because there was a lot to look at.


the result?
what were they talking about? election? corruption? yeah, i guess. Norah O'Donnel was SMOKING HOT! and viewership goes UP while awareness goes DOWN. Fnord.

[cataleptik]

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[cataleptik]

the flip side is misogyny, as in,
why should anyone encourage women's bodies to be concealed?
the connection is capitalism, and the result is a general "disconnect" as people become more divorced from their real feelings -- ah, the cremation of care.

and that is a long range goal of secret groups, that through various almost-invisible ways ("Fnord.") people become more disconnected from their real feelings...

as that progressively happens, it's easier to see how people don't know that their government is (for example) using depleted uranium to systematically sicken populations. and it's EPIDEMIC, and something must be done.

i hope i have not hijacked the thread. News is not soap opera, but there are network heads who develop specific policies, the making of money the goal.

[mido]

Addiction to soaps is very sad. It seems to become harder and harder to find any educational and/or quality programmes. I'd never date any woman into soaps, celebrity shows and other trash TV. Someone with brains - please!!!

[cheeney1]

In New Zealand we Have" Shorland Street" The Ferndale Strangler Yeah A Serial Killer Killing Off Nurses ( Shortland Street is A Hospital Based Soapie) everyone wanted to know who The Serial Killer was, just to get more people to watch , get more ratings................:rolleyes::eek:

What I Can't Understand about Soaps is People Have enough Strife Going on in There Lifes, and yet they all sit down and watch the Same Shite Happening on Tv and they can't Differ From Tv and Reality.............:rolleyes::mad:

[hagbard_celine]

In New Zealand we Have" Shorland Street" The Ferndale Strangler Yeah A Serial Killer Killing Off Nurses ( Shortland Street is A Hospital Based Soapie) everyone wanted to know who The Serial Killer was, just to get more people to watch , get more ratings................:rolleyes::eek:

What I Can't Understand about Soaps is People Have enough Strife Going on in There Lifes, and yet they all sit down and watch the Same Shite Happening on Tv and they can't Differ From Tv and Reality.............:rolleyes::mad:


Shortland Street was shown in Britain for a while. I'm ashamed to say I watched it. It was tolerable though, because despite it being very dull and shallow, at least there was no Conformist propanganda like you get in M.K.Enders! (Or there might have been some that I failed to spot!:eek:)

[hirschfelder]

Shortland Street had the craziest theme tune ever. It made zero sense. It was some daft love song or something and every now and then they'd throw in the name of the show


"Is it you or is it me?
Lately I've been lost it seems.
I think a change is what I need.
If I'm looking for a chance or to dream

Shortland Street...

Taking time to hold my place.
Yesterday's another race
Just living for the times we've seen.
When the writing's on the wall says I'll be

Shortland Street...

If you want to find a way of searching for another world,
It's hard to see.

Shortland Street..."

Shortland Street closing credits - YouTube

Sons and Daughters was equally barmy

[cheeney1]

Shortland Street had the craziest theme tune ever. It made zero sense. It was some daft love song or something and every now and then they'd throw in the name of the show


"Is it you or is it me?
Lately I've been lost it seems.
I think a change is what I need.
If I'm looking for a chance or to dream

Shortland Street...

Taking time to hold my place.
Yesterday's another race
Just living for the times we've seen.
When the writing's on the wall says I'll be

Shortland Street...

If you want to find a way of searching for another world,
It's hard to see.

Shortland Street..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-6Ac9Mh8g&feature=related

Sons and Daughters was equally barmy

That Might Be Why So many People Are Hooked On It, Totally Boring.............:)

[matthew84]

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie and just wanted to say hello and thanks for all the interesting posts.

I watch quite a bit of tv and I think it reveals clearly that masculinity is in crisis. And so is femininity! Does anyone watch Pulling on BBC3? It is hilarious - but it is also a damning indictement of the frantic search for any kind of relationship to fill the gaping spiritual void of life in 21st century UK. When their efforts back-fire (as they inevitably do) there is always booze, booze and more booze. 24-hour opening anyone?!

And I think all the property programmes (porn) over the last few years have contributed to the massive house price bubble which the banks are now poised to prick. Then they can then trawl the rich seas of reposession for their rewards like fishing boats collecting their spoils.

:o

[matthew84]

Hi, sorry for posting again but The Apprentice has just come on and I had to comment on its nefarious lauding of aggression, cruelty and desperation.

The utterly facile comments of the competitors beggar belief;

"I'm a winner, I'm not used to losing, I give 110 per cent."

Spare me. A prime example of trying to gain the world and lose your soul in the process.

[hagbard_celine]

Welcome, Matthew.:)

I despise Alan Sugar and both his reality TV shows. Dragon's Den is even worse! The common theme in these programmes and soap operas is battering the morale. As I said above, we're being flocked into a tiny pen of acceptable behavior and morality with a viscious sheepdog snapping at our heels. It's become a case of "Become this or fall"

[eyeballkid88]

You'll notice that all the Realiy Tv shows have now began rewarding apalling bahaviour, anything that results in you putting someone down, insulting, belittling, just being a bastard generally, is absolutley promoted...


Take Big brother a few years back where they show peoples "secretly" voting people off, just to create a problem in the "house"....

Or Simon Cowell on American Idol.... stating clearly that it was toal rubbish and people tune in just to see him take people to the cleaners....

it is now the biggest type of TV on TV, its not good...

[element]

Yeah, bad behaviour gets promoted.

Can you imagine what it would do to the kids?

[hagbard_celine]

As I said throughout this thread. Soap and RealityTV are sadly having an effect.

Rudeness and aggression have risen and almost become the normal way to do busines. Fewer males are sexually active and therefore reproducing; and those who do are usually the Conformiust Male Ideals of the soap operas. So we're talking bout massive social engineering, not just biological; in other words social eugenics!:eek:

[gaznix]

The UKs obsession with "soaps" and "reality shows" is so very sad. It takes people out of the true nature of reality, and sucks them into the SYSTEMS reality of mind numbing bullshit ! They become absorbed with what they watch on the TV, thus doing what the SYSTEM wants. Meanwhile the SYSTEM accomplishes more of its agenda. How on earth people can watch such drivel is a mystery, its pointless; their is nothing of benefit whatsoever !!! I saw how powerful television was when I saw a grown woman cry over the "death" of "Dirty Den" !!! What a powerful tool !!! The NWO must have a right laugh !!!

Lenny

[lilly555]

here in the states, we have a different set of soaps.

seems to me that most of the imitation that i see in real life is from females..

although some middle age men get into it too

it's prolly deeper than what i can see...

i can never watch a whole episode

my soul just can't take it lol

[kingmonkey]

Intellect,individuality and decency are weeded out at the first opportunity in most t.v shows, while competition, greed, violence and envy seem to be the order of the day.

If any terrorists out there are at a loose end, consider blowing up some tv stations!



just kidding...

i think...

[hagbard_celine]

The new series of Britain's Got Talent is on at the moment!:rolleyes::rolleyes::(:mad:

It should be renamed: Britain's Been Conditioned into Sadistic Voyeurism.

[kingmonkey]

And I think all the property programmes (porn) over the last few years have contributed to the massive house price bubble which the banks are now poised to prick. Then they can then trawl the rich seas of reposession for their rewards like fishing boats collecting their spoils.

:o

I agree that the property programs (Freudian slip) have a detremental effect. For a lot of people the kind of places on them are completely unattainable. People watch these programmes and it puts them into "want" mode and just encourages greed and jealousy. It's the same with the celebrity lifestyle shows, it encourages people to live beyond their means to obtain things they probably, deep down don't even want. Getting into more debt and owning more stuff is the last thing most people should be thinking about in my opinion.

P.S. I think your porn comparison is spot on.

[pilgrim]

Excellent thread and comments!
Soaps are mind-numbing and brainwashing.
They show a false reality for the "sheeple" to follow and remain in ignorance.

[zero1]

I haven't watched a single soap in over ten years, Eastenders in full of people shouting and arguing constantly, I don't need to watch this kind of utter dogshit...

This FTW...:cool:

[tothestars]

Intellect,individuality and decency are weeded out at the first opportunity in most t.v shows, while competition, greed, violence and envy seem to be the order of the day.

If any terrorists out there are at a loose end, consider blowing up some tv stations!



just kidding...

i think...

Let me remind you that the terrorists own the TV stations.

[kingmonkey]

Well yeah, I didn't mean those sort... I meant the other ones that don't wear suits...

[fifi40]

Well the original statement was correct in regard to the illuminati read this article

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

[signalnorth]

Just do what I did, about 6 months ago (I the time I stumbled by accident onto what is really going on in our world and realized that the major media is in on it) .

How exactly? I'm always interested to hear how people come around to seeing the world differently especially if its a sudden awakening

[misterethoughts]

Oh, most definitely.

[angel wings]

Eastenders is like one big negative mantra, basically telling you that if you're a nice person, forget about getting into a relationship or a business venture because it will invariably fail. In other words, don't go getting ideas above your station.

It also promotes the idea that if you ever go outside the law, even if you hurt no-one, your "friends and family" will judge you and you will always get caught.

The only characters who ever seem to get away with anything are the power-hungry, survival-minded, self-serving Mitchell family (symbolic of the elite bloodlines perhaps?)


Food for thought, great point.

[signalnorth]

Wouldn't it be great if someone somehow blocked all TV signals for a month or two! It would be a bloody interesting social experiment if nowt else!

[gaznix]

Its a sad curse this thing we refer to as a TV
drip, drip, drip feeding the unthinking and the weak
a mind numbing and seriously obscene false reality
and there they sit and drink in the futile crap
and like an addicts wet dream
they have it on a 24 hour drip
they watch and they don't even notice
how deep they've sunk in their own shit!

(C)2008 Rev Lenny Gazbowski

I don't watch that box and am so effing happy that I am free of their shit! I have read in the Telegraph that thir is an inquiry into Strictly Come Dancing.....OH PLEASE !!! NO !!! Beam me up SCOTTIE !!!

[hagbard_celine]

[/B]

Food for thought, great point.

Eastenders is like one big negative mantra, basically telling you that if you're a nice person, forget about getting into a relationship or a business venture because it will invariably fail. In other words, don't go getting ideas above your station.

It also promotes the idea that if you ever go outside the law, even if you hurt no-one, your "friends and family" will judge you and you will always get caught.

The only characters who ever seem to get away with anything are the power-hungry, survival-minded, self-serving Mitchell family (symbolic of the elite bloodlines perhaps?)

Shane is absolutely spot-on and he echoes my thoughts exaclty!:cool:

[hagbard_celine]

Its a sad curse this thing we refer to as a TV
drip, drip, drip feeding the unthinking and the weak
a mind numbing and seriously obscene false reality
and there they sit and drink in the futile crap
and like an addicts wet dream
they have it on a 24 hour drip
they watch and they don't even notice
how deep they've sunk in their own shit!

(C)2008 Rev Lenny Gazbowski

I don't watch that box and am so effing happy that I am free of their shit! I have read in the Telegraph that thir is an inquiry into Strictly Come Dancing.....OH PLEASE !!! NO !!! Beam me up SCOTTIE !!!

What a great poet Rev. Lenny is!:)

[ra86]

The Mitchell family, especially Grant and Phill are the "Alpha males". it's promoting an ideal that we're all encoraged ("encouraged"? More like browbeaten, indoctinated) to become. They are role models for the New Man. The "old age man" is the one they're trying to stop us being. they are typified by the "nice guy" characters like Gus, Mark Fowler and Lofty. (if anyone remembers Lofty) They take on the role of victim, downtrodden and exploited (usually by the Alpha-males) and sexually untouchable. It's a warning to the male population not be caring and sensitive.

I'm not surprised how M.K.enders has been exploited as an opportunity to instil programming into our colective psyche.


I've avoided watching the Christmas spacials of TavistockEnders this year. it means I've been separated from my family for 2 hours on Xmas day!

to be honest though, i think it's just slack writing and an easy way to establish a character. one of my many goals is to work in the television and film industry, having studied film for 5 years, and i write a HELL of alot of tv show ideas, and if i didn't steriotype even a few of the characters, they would all be sat about doing nothing what so ever.... who would watch that? i could go into an in depth rant, but i won't.
but, i can see what these shows generally do to those chubby middle aged woman, who wear thick lensed glasses and run outside in their leggins and baggy jumpers when a police car pulls up on the street *sighs*. and i will say, i have stopped watching 'television'. i have my favourite shows, most of which are american, that i watch on dvd, and it really does suck me in less than the 'tv', i even feel alot 'brighter'

[truestrength]

This thread triggered something. It made me think of the mind control and how one of the techniques used is something to do with Alice in Wonderland?

In an odd way I link that with soap TV. Especially the real weak acting ones from the US like Days of our Lives, the Bold and the Beautiful etc. Notice how all soaps main focus is sexual RELATIONSHIPS?

[holylucifer]

I spend 24/7 on a computer 12+ hours a day for quite a long time and well fed...very scary..you'll have the best memory in the world.

[hagbard_celine]

to be honest though, i think it's just slack writing and an easy way to establish a character. one of my many goals is to work in the television and film industry, having studied film for 5 years, and i write a HELL of alot of tv show ideas, and if i didn't steriotype even a few of the characters, they would all be sat about doing nothing what so ever.... who would watch that? i could go into an in depth rant, but i won't.
but, i can see what these shows generally do to those chubby middle aged woman, who wear thick lensed glasses and run outside in their leggins and baggy jumpers when a police car pulls up on the street *sighs*. and i will say, i have stopped watching 'television'. i have my favourite shows, most of which are american, that i watch on dvd, and it really does suck me in less than the 'tv', i even feel alot 'brighter'

I can see that the authorship of the soap operas may not be up to Shakespearean standard, but I think we shouldn't just dismiss it as what my dad calls "Cock-up Theory". We have reason to anticipate propaganda on several theoretical grounds because of the fact that many older films and TV programmes have been quite openly revealed as propaganda after the passing of many years. A good example is Anthony Asquith's 1943 submarine movie We Dive At Dawn. It's been revealed that this was a public morale-boosting effort by the Ministry of Information after the blow suffered by Dunkrik. (I find it quite an enjoyable movie actually:o, but I'm a bit of a sub-film buff, Das Boot, Run Silent Run Deep etc)

As for TavistockEnders, it has millions of viewers; do you think the PTB's are going to leave it alone? It's plots have also changed to fit in with the new culture for Reality TV. And as I say above, it contains the same ethics, the same social violence, the same attack on our self-esteem. The way it promotes some types of character as role-models and others as anti-role-models. We see other dramas with the same Conformist promotional features like Casanova and Hussle.

As for the hard evidence I'm looking for: I'm checking out the backgrounds of the people employed in its production. One name we should be particularly suspicious of is Jane Tranter, see: Jane Tranter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Look at her credits!:eek:: Holby City, Casualty, Hotel Babylon, Casanova, Spooks, not to mention TavistockEnders itself; a whole run of suspicious television shows!

[hagbard_celine]

This thread triggered something. It made me think of the mind control and how one of the techniques used is something to do with Alice in Wonderland?

In an odd way I link that with soap TV. Especially the real weak acting ones from the US like Days of our Lives, the Bold and the Beautiful etc. Notice how all soaps main focus is sexual RELATIONSHIPS?

Yes, the propaganda in soaps is essentially to do with relationships, especially sexual politics. This is an important part of NWO conditioning. The Bold And the Beautiful is actually far more benign than TavistockEnders, primarily (sorry if you're a fan:o) because it is so technically awful! TavistockEnders at least employs fairly good actors:rolleyes:.

[the_real_macoy]

Don't get me started on soap operas!

Eastenders is definitely the biggest psy-op of them all, especially when it comes to male sexually conformist ideals. The programme promotes ruthlessness and aggression in the form of charcaters like Phil Mitchell, Dennis Rickman and Steve Owen. These characters all all "alpha males". They're rich, powerful and very attractive to the programme's female characters and conventionally successful. The viewer is then warned off from being a "nice guy" by portraying the male characters with these traits as failures, ineffectual, downtrodden and sexually untouchable. Good examples are Gus, Minty, Mark Fowler and Robby Jackson. Every so often a recurring plot line is employed where one of the alpha-males is in conflict with one of the "nice guys", usually over a woman and the alpha-male invariably wins.

There is one exception: Alfie Moon. When the charcater was first introduced the producers didn't intend him to become as popular with female viewers as he did, and they then were forced to adapt the storyline around his role to accomodate. This is a good sign as it shows that the pay-op is failing. But they soon hit back with more propaganda over Gus' ill-fated relationship with Sonia.

After the climax of the Archie Mitchell murder I stopped watching it as I found it a dissapointing anti-climax and manipulative rubbish. The Ben Mitchell storyline (when he clobered that kid with a monkey wrench) pulled me back into it and I saw the hour long episode tonight when Roxy Mitchell discovers the long lost brother was after her money - all the story lines in this episode I found very painful to watch as everyone was backstabbing, manipulating and destructive. During the family argument scene I saw the symbolism in one shot of Roxy's sun sign tatoo on her shoulder panning to shot of Ronnie with inverted black triangle on her t-shirt with an eye in the bottom corner - too much of a coincidence!

[hagbard_celine]

After the climax of the Archie Mitchell murder I stopped watching it as I found it a dissapointing anti-climax and manipulative rubbish. The Ben Mitchell storyline (when he clobered that kid with a monkey wrench) pulled me back into it and I saw the hour long episode tonight when Roxy Mitchell discovers the long lost brother was after her money - all the story lines in this episode I found very painful to watch as everyone was backstabbing, manipulating and destructive. During the family argument scene I saw the symbolism in one shot of Roxy's sun sign tatoo on her shoulder panning to shot of Ronnie with inverted black triangle on her t-shirt with an eye in the bottom corner - too much of a coincidence!

Whatever the storyline, you can bet it's been done before.:rolleyes::p

Interesting symbolism there.:cool: It's been done before. Gus flat (Gus is a major CAP character) has a painting of a pier stretching out to sea that looks like an Illuminati pyramid on the wall.

[the_real_macoy]

Whatever the storyline, you can bet it's been done before.:rolleyes::p

Interesting symbolism there.:cool: It's been done before. Gus flat (Gus is a major CAP character) has a painting of a pier stretching out to sea that looks like an Illuminati pyramid on the wall.

Gus has left series over 1 year go now I think. Again on Corrie tonight I noticed one of the young sexy female characters had a t-shirt with what looked like a Reptillian Cat - big reptillian eyes. Does it mean anything :confused:

[hagbard_celine]

Gus has left series over 1 year go now I think. Again on Corrie tonight I noticed one of the young sexy female characters had a t-shirt with what looked like a Reptillian Cat - big reptillian eyes. Does it mean anything :confused:

Not to me, I must say:o, but maybe other members can enlighten us.

[brokenshadow]

A friend of a friend writes for Eastenders. I'm assured that the creative process chiefly consists of drinking a lot of tea and reading magazines looking for interesting made-up articles to plagiarize.
If the writers don't care what goes in (and they don't) you can imagine what goes through unnoticed.

[hagbard_celine]

A friend of a friend writes for Eastenders. I'm assured that the creative process chiefly consists of drinking a lot of tea and reading magazines looking for interesting made-up articles to plagiarize.
If the writers don't care what goes in (and they don't) you can imagine what goes through unnoticed.

Hey, invite them onto the Forum!:cool::) Introduce them to me. I'd love to interview them, anonymously if necessary.

[brokenshadow]

Never met them. Sorry.

[the_real_macoy]

A friend of a friend writes for Eastenders. I'm assured that the creative process chiefly consists of drinking a lot of tea and reading magazines looking for interesting made-up articles to plagiarize.
If the writers don't care what goes in (and they don't) you can imagine what goes through unnoticed.



They aired a new advert for Eastenders tonight, in which all the characters come out the Queen Vic looking like life is wonderfull and the camera pulls away and then goes above the square, panning out and the garden in the middle of the square is in the shape of a celtic cross - something that has never been shown before!

Writers come up with ideas but the director edits those ideas into what is seen on TV.

[ra86]

They aired a new advert for Eastenders tonight, in which all the characters come out the Queen Vic looking like life is wonderfull and the camera pulls away and then goes above the square, panning out and the garden in the middle of the square is in the shape of a celtic cross - something that has never been shown before!

Writers come up with ideas but the director edits those ideas into what is seen on TV.

Haha, they will probably 'jump the shark' soon, and have it turn all paranormal, like that american rubbish 'sunset beach'... which a bit of a guilty pleasure, i will admit

[baelsfire]

I was quite impressed with this thread and the posts made within. It pretty much hits the nail on the head as far as im concerned.

So, inspired, i went and made a Facebook Page about it, LoL! Hopefully some of you don't mind my blatent use of your posts as part of the information!

Hope you /LIKE/ it!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/TV-Soap-Operas-are-PSYOPS/132873090067533?v=info

[the_real_macoy]

I've lost count of how many times TavistockEnders has repeated this same plot! It goes right back to the beginning of the series in the 80's with Lofty.:rolleyes:


Been watching the Lucas murders Denis plot and I knew ( without reading it or hearing on the media) that Denis wasn't actually dead. I suspected that Lucas murdered a woman from a night club and pretended she was Denis a couple of weeks back now - so what's that all about?

[hagbard_celine]

Been watching the Lucas murders Denis plot and I knew ( without reading it or hearing on the media) that Denis wasn't actually dead. I suspected that Lucas murdered a woman from a night club and pretended she was Denis a couple of weeks back now - so what's that all about?

The golden rule is:

If they're CAP's they'll be back
If they're CMI's they'll be back to beat 'em.:rolleyes::rolleyes::(

[the_real_macoy]

Ian Beale got a drum kit and set it up in the front room - low and be hold it had a single eye pattern on the kick drum. Also noticed at the V festival there was a wheel with colored flashing lights that alternated between looking like an eye and an eye in a pyramid flashing all the time as bands performed!