NWO for beginners and sceptics

[flyermay]

I found this video, aired on the MSM some time ago, which explains the most basic level of the elite's conspiracy to maintain power at all costs and forward the NWO. It contains 100% provable facts and shows the struggle for a real democracy between the ordinary citizen and the rich & powerful.

It's presented by former minister Tony Benn (President of 'Stop the War Coalition').

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poO5BgU2PZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyeWdWmfh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COz0y4tIoog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebvRsN-WaAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caQDPjGhdDg

[flyermay]

Not many beginners or sceptics on this forum!... Good :)

[loopy2222]

Not many beginners or sceptics on this forum!... Good :)

True! but we can pass it on to those that are :)

Thanks flyermay :D

[flyermay]

True! but we can pass it on to those that are :)

Thanks flyermay :D

You're welcome. ;)

Another video for NWO beginners and sceptics (this one is relatively short, and goes directly to the point):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLPG_HplrA

[blueone]

Good videos cheers guys! I think Tony Ben is great!

[rjmt2012]

Don't forget these:


The Illuminati
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5711848891999225224&hl=en#

The Calling
http://www.viddler.com/explore/marjeran2010/videos/11/1.228/


Wake Up Call
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3149990642797444340&hl=en#


The UN Deception
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=827919062866201173&hl=en#


Terry Cook - Mark of The New World Order
http://www.viddler.com/explore/babylonfalling/videos/7/121.642/


Washington
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8936247493307085915&hl=en#


Unconstitutional - The War on Our Civil Liberties
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3105519703637733227&hl=en#

[primordialman]

I found this video, aired on the MSM some time ago, which explains the most basic level of the elite's conspiracy to maintain power at all costs and forward the NWO. It contains 100% provable facts and shows the struggle for a real democracy between the ordinary citizen and the rich & powerful.

It's presented by former minister Tony Benn (President of 'Stop the War Coalition').

Wheres the link to the said film?


I have plenty of sceptcism towards NWO conspiracy.
First of all as pointed out by another poster Lucifer/Horus is the continued ignorant pininng of Illuminati to Freemasons & other non related secrets soceities when they are completely different organisations with differnt goals and charter etc..

I also have major problem with mainly rightwingers whom keep trying draw a connection between Anti Global warming sentiment & NWO even though they dont seem to be able to show me single link between the two, thats not by some rightwing libertarian Nutbag thus completely biased something i can never accept as someone left of centre, and essentially anti capitalist!.

[itsallinus]

I would find a 'spirituality for beginners' and 'finding unconditional love for beginners' more helpful (to pass on to others) or even 'divine truth for beginners'. However this is useful nonetheless, cheers flyermay ;):)

[kappy0405]

Wheres the link to the said film?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poO5BgU2PZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyeWdWmfh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COz0y4tIoog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebvRsN-WaAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caQDPjGhdDg

media doesn't show up some of the time. Quote the post and you should see it in the html...

I have plenty of sceptcism towards NWO conspiracy.
First of all as pointed out by another poster Lucifer/Horus is the continued ignorant pininng of Illuminati to Freemasons & other non related secrets soceities when they are completely different organisations with differnt goals and charter etc..

such as? Conventional history even shows that the Illuminati intended on infiltrating freemasonry, and many credible people, President George Washington included, acknowledged that it happened. And no, that doesn't implicate all of masonry. And regardless of how benevolent the Illuminati's motives seemed to be, they not only practiced a hierarchy within their own structure, but their membership roster included members of the church, royalty, and people connected with Rothschild banking. Their benevolent, psuedo-socialist motives were probably a front, as much as I would like to think otherwise.

I also have major problem with mainly rightwingers whom keep trying draw a connection between Anti Global warming sentiment & NWO even though they dont seem to be able to show me single link between the two, thats not by some rightwing libertarian Nutbag thus completely biased something i can never accept as someone left of centre, and essentially anti capitalist!.

CHECK OUT THE CLUB OF ROME! Don't accept something simply because it's leftwing and don't deny something simply because it's rightwing. The elite have no bias either way. A scam is a scam, and there isn't one more obvious than man-made global warming. Btw, I'm firmly on the left, like many on this forum.

http://www.green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html

That site should give you some good information..

[primordialman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_AtHkB4Ms

[primordialman]

CHECK OUT THE CLUB OF ROME! Don't accept something simply because it's leftwing and don't deny something simply because it's rightwing. The elite have no bias either way. A scam is a scam, and there isn't one more obvious than man-made global warming. Btw, I'm firmly on the left, like many on this forum.

http://www.green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html (http://www.green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html)



I have no reason to believe the Club of Rome are sinister!. Nothing i have read on the site indicates that to me.
Club of Rome isnt brought up much anymore like it once was, so makes think they are not really a major player, its more CFR or Bilderbergers isnt it!. Nor do i think the UN are sinister unlike most of you i dont think every NGO or think tank is somehow evil or plotting conspiracy.

[flyermay]

More info on the UN, CFR and NGOs:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2634703139474212867#

[itsallinus]

I have no reason to believe the Club of Rome are sinister!. Nothing i have read on the site indicates that to me.
Club of Rome isnt brought up much anymore like it once was, so makes think they are not really a major player, its more CFR or Bilderbergers isnt it!. Nor do i think the UN are sinister unlike most of you i dont think every NGO or think tank is somehow evil or plotting conspiracy.

Compartmentalisation. Forgive them, for they know not what they do....well most anyway.

[kappy0405]

I have no reason to believe the Club of Rome are sinister!. Nothing i have read on the site indicates that to me.
Club of Rome isnt brought up much anymore like it once was, so makes think they are not really a major player, its more CFR or Bilderbergers isnt it!. Nor do i think the UN are sinister unlike most of you i dont think every NGO or think tank is somehow evil or plotting conspiracy.

At the top levels, the Club of Rome IS the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc. All the Round Table Groups are essentially the same: mainly the RIIA/CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, and the Club of Rome.

And the word 'sinister', 'evil', etc. seems to throw things off. I have no reason to think they are 'sinister' in the conventional sense either. But they support global government, which if evolved from our current system can only mean one thing - complete oligarchy. That's sinister enough, imho.

[primordialman]

At the top levels, the Club of Rome IS the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc. All the Round Table Groups are essentially the same: mainly the RIIA/CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, and the Club of Rome.


What they are about is Globlisation, unless you ve been in cave for the last thirty years you would note the obvious that Globlisation, Globalism which usually goes hand in glove with Feudal captialism is here to stay not even this recent GFC is going to change multilateral world to use their terms, etc.
Everything you are telling is me is nothing new. How about telling me something i dont know for a change or how the Neolib/right libertarians etc are going to turn it all around when the truth is they are as much in love with it every bit as much the broader left!.

Given the amount of wanton anti semitism on these forums i dread to think what some of you are really all about, David Icke has been labelled proxy BNP PR man in the past could it be so far from the truth.
Considering the majority of you seem to be pretty anti semitic and attempt to tie that to all kinds of issues as far removed from it as climate change it wouldnt surprise me if you were all Fascists not necessarily Nazis however fascists of one stripe or another!.

Btw bare in mind your politics in the US or UK is very different to my home country of Australia! Most Yanks are culturallly inclind to think as Rugged Individualists not collectivily!.

[kappy0405]

What they are about is Globlisation
You're right.. but that's exactly what everyone is saying. :rolleyes:

unless you ve been in cave for the last thirty years you would note the obvious that Globlisation, Globalism which usually goes hand in glove with Feudal captialism is here to stay not even this recent GFC is going to change multilateral world to use their terms, etc.

ok, you're right.. let's just give up then. :rolleyes:

There's nothing really wrong with globalization, but it only takes an objective mind to realize that our current path of multilateralism is a corrupt one.

Here's what the Club of Rome thinks about Democracy:

"Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time." -COR publication:the 1st Global Revolution

Your global warming frontmen don't give a hoot about leftist ideals; they only care about exploiting a [possible] problem to further centralize their political authority.

and yes, Capitalism almost inevitably leads to a plutocratic oligarchy and globalization, but that doesn't mean the fuckers hate the idea of having complete control either.. ie. authoritarian socialism, or somewhere in the middle ground. Again, you're fooling yourself to only identify this with the right. The GFC won't end Capitalism, but it HAS created an excuse for a centralized economic authority, which is already developing out of the IMF, as proven by the April G20.
How about telling me something i dont know for a change or how the Neolib/right libertarians etc are going to turn it all around when the truth is they are as much in love with it every bit as much the broader left!
I've already said that the "rightwing" has as much to do with it, and most here seem to agree. what are you talking about?
Given the amount of wanton anti semitism on these forums i dread to think what some of you are really all about
now that's funny.. There's a few blatant anti-semites here, but the vast majority are simply against maniacal Zionist regimes. Are you not?
David Icke has been labelled proxy BNP PR man in the past could it be so far from the truth.
lol.. David Icke is so anti-Britain it's not even funny. Seriously, whoever labeled him PR for the BNP is severely deluded.
Btw bare in mind your politics in the US or UK is very different to my home country of Australia! Most Yanks are culturallly inclind to think as Rugged Individualists not collectivily!.
Maybe in the old days. Socialist/Communist ideals have become pretty prominent in the West over the last decade or so, and there's more than a few on this forum who identify with it. The majority here at least leans towards the left.

meaning stop seeing everything in left vs right. Anyway, you asked for info linking the global warming swindle with the NWO/globalization, and you've been shown it. You can take it from there if you have any interest in seeing things objectively.

[flyermay]

What they are about is Globlisation, unless you ve been in cave for the last thirty years you would note the obvious that Globlisation, Globalism which usually goes hand in glove with Feudal captialism is here to stay not even this recent GFC is going to change multilateral world to use their terms, etc.

Yes, it is about globalisation, but it's also about destroying national sovereignty and giving power to unelected international organisations that are not accountable to voters (the end of democracy as such).

It's about the use of force against any opposition -whether it is foreign or domestic-.

It is about keeping the population in total darkness about their plans and what really is going on. It is about pushing the elite's agenda without the consent from the public, through layer and layer of lies and bullshit.

Given the amount of wanton anti semitism on these forums i dread to think what some of you are really all about, David Icke has been labelled proxy BNP PR man in the past could it be so far from the truth.
Considering the majority of you seem to be pretty anti semitic and attempt to tie that to all kinds of issues as far removed from it as climate change it wouldnt surprise me if you were all Fascists not necessarily Nazis however fascists of one stripe or another!.

That's nonsense! Yes, there are a couple of xenophobes and BNP supporters here (as well as freemasons, for example), but they are not by any chance representative of the whole forum.

Icke has been unfairly accused of those things just to discredit him; with things like the ADL saying that when he talks about "reptilians" he means "Jews"; again, nonsense!

[primordialman]

I've already said that the "rightwing" has as much to do with it, and most here seem to agree. what are you talking about?

Ok so lets move on, whats your solution where does your own ideology take you from here. I dont want more same old same old expose i want solutions as you see it!.


Yes, it is about globalisation, but it's also about destroying national sovereignty and giving power to unelected international organisations that are not accountable to voters (the end of democracy as such).


FM
Whats your own ideological position are you a leftwinger?

[flyermay]

FM
Whats your own ideological position are you a leftwinger?

Of course I am!!! :)

[flyermay]

Just point out that when I said: "the end of democracy", I meant the end of what is known nowadays as "democracy", that is: having the choice to choose ever 4 years the oligarchs that would rule over you; nothing to do with the real meaning of democracy: "the rule of the people".