Are we the aliens?

[eternal_spirit]

Man is so different than all the other earth creatures.
I think we came from another planet or were genetically manipulated by aliens
maybe we are part earth creature part alien.:)

[fox mulder]

Dosent Icke mention how our white race is from Mars and they're the foreign life force claiming the planet as their own?

[mercuryrapids]

Well, we're not very different genetically from just about every other animal species on the planet. :)

I do agree, though, that it is odd how homo sapiens sapiens suddenly appeared about 200,000 years ago and started plonking down villages then towns then cities once they'd 'moved out of Africa' by about 12,000 years ago. When they got to Europe and the closest bit of Asia, they found people already living there, namely Neanderthals. Not long after that our cousins packed it in and went extinct. Meanwhile, homo erectus had got all over the place and kindly died out before we arrived in Asia and the Americas. That was nice of them, wasn't it?

It's almost as though 'somebody' was experimenting... :)

[mercuryrapids]

p.s.

I'm one of those nutters that believe our ancestors were visited by aliens thousands of years ago (all through our history to the present day, actually). I think they had a more 'hands-on' interaction way back when, though, than they do now.

I think we're the children of the gods, so to speak. If you look into the work of Philip Schneider and others, it seems that we've fallen out with our 'parents'.

[deca]

only diffrance is man looks to the sky and ask why?

[misscpb]

Man is so different than all the other earth creatures.
I think we came from another planet or were genetically manipulated by aliens
maybe we are part earth creature part alien.:)

I very much agree with this as well, and also think the same of the thousands of different animal species, especially when you look at some of the ocean life that is many hundreds of feet under water and which often takes on extreme forms.

[seamus]

jenkalichen brought up a disturbing possibility. (I think i heard this from Whitley Strieber originally) The Grays are really our descnedants, and they are trying to become more like us, because something was lost somewhere along the line. That's my liberal interpretation of it anyway. Weird huh?

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[sean~infinte]

im preety sure we are the homo-atlantians

genetic shadows of our former selves but all the physical body is is a space suit to experince life and unfortunatly our conscienuss is limited by our physical body

[procyon]

A better question would be are all the souls on earth from earth? Our bodies are tied to the earthly genetics, but what about our souls? Maybe some of us are truly alien in spirit, hence no attachment or oneness with the earth. Could be the reason people don't feel connected to others either. No connection with the animal life or nature. Or maybe it was genetic altering to teh body which shut off these connections?

In any instance, good question.

[eternal_spirit]

Well if jesus or any other relgious character returns to earth or God lol, They would be aliens and also would have written the Bible etc.
man made in the image of god? god made by the imagination of man?
or was it the alines who is god? which would make us genetucally related to god if that makes sense haha.

[seamus]

I listened for a few minutes to coast to coast am. Ian whatsisname was on last night but there was Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy who talked about Serpo. That supposedly was an ET/Govt. info exchange program. It was alleged that the ETs are our distant future descendants, trying to help us avert a devastating catastrophe. I am not convinced, but thought it might be of interest to the group.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1887.html


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[spectator]

I'm new to this forum, but this is a fascinating subject to me, so I will weigh in. I recently read a book, "Blue Blood, True Blood," by Stewart Swerdlow, that is probably the most disturbing "theory" on this subject that I have ever read or heard about There is a link to he and his wife's website on this site's homepage.

Swerdlow claims to be a member of an old Russian Illuminati family whom they educated to be a "Vessel" and "Father God" in their satanic ritual underground. He claims he was told that our ancestors were entirely spiritual, nonphysical beings who first "descended into flesh" five billion years ago on a planet in a star system close to the center of this Galaxy, called the Lyrae star system. They did this, apparently, to experience the pleasure of physical existence. Even though they became physical, they were not trapped in physicality and could manifest anything they needed in physicality solely through their mental powers. Over time, they were tempted by another nonpysical race who "descended into flesh" and who were much more materially- minded, to stay in physicality for longer and longer periods. Finally , this other race died out, and the Lyreans discovered that they were now "trapped" in physicality. Slowly, they even lost their ability to manifest what they needed just by using their minds and were forced to develop a technology. Their basic non-aggressiveness and peaceful attitude prevented them from developing weapons with which to defend themselves, and this made them vulnerable to the most predatory, ruthless aggressors in the Universe: the Draconian Reptilians of the Draco star system.

The Draconians were created by a non-pysical race from the far future who traveled back in time to provide a "challenge" for the Lyrean humans. They wanted to see who would triumph and survive, the Draconians or the Lyreans. Accordingly, they created the Draconians on the Lower Astral level of existence so that they had to ingest Lyrean human "energetics" (blood and flesh) in order to maintain physical existence on this plane. Thus motivated to pursue and conquer the Lyreans, they attacked the Lyrean system with fearsome weapons and apparently destroyed Lyrae itself, but not before some Lyreans escaped to space. These Lyrean refugees fanned out across the Galaxy, colonizing hundreds of worlds. Over vast amounts of time, the different environmental conditions on each of these colonized worlds caused the Lyrean descendants to develop different-looking bodies and genetics. They remained human, however, and could interbreed.

To make a very long story shorter, the Draconians ended up colonizing Earth on the continent called Lemuria, hundreds of thousands of years ago. They were followed by Lyrean dscendants from a world in the Pleiades called Atla, who established a colony on another Earth continent which became Atlantis. Another human group, from a then-existing planet in this Solar System, Maldek, colonized another continent that is now part of the Eurasian continent, in the the Gobi desert. At that time, there was also a human colony on Mars. There followed a catastrophic war between these groups that went on for some time, until many civilizations in this Galaxy were involved. Finally, the leadership of this Galaxy convened a Council on a neutral world in the Andromeda Galaxy called Hatona, where they hammered out a peace agreement among the warring paarties in this Galaxy. In the agreement, twelve human civilizations and the Reptilians agreed to provide their DNA to create a new race of beings on Earth. That was us.

Over many millennia, these human groups and the Reptilians sponsored and continued to interbreed with the humans of different Earth civilizations and continued the war that had started hundreds of thousands of years earlier, only now it was confined to Earth alone. Earth became a Prison Planet, a Galactic Devil's Island where criminals and malcontents from all over the Galaxy were condemned to incarnate over and over again into lives of conflict and suffering, ruled over by Reptilian-human hybrids, the Illuminati, who have used us ever since as their slaves and soldiers.

It's a good story, and who knows if it is true or not, but, if it is true, it explains a great many things about Earth and humanity that have so far remained a mystery.

[eternal_spirit]

Lot's of Science Fiction like Star Trek would seem to follow the same basic story. Icke wrote that these programmes could be programming are subconcious to accept aliens as a reality for if and when if the powers that be in charge of Earth decide to announce to us all that we or they are infact aliens, the sub concious programming would lessen the shock effect of us seeing the world leaders( or those working the puppets who are the world leaders) as 3 dimensional physical beings.

If Jesus returned as written in the Bible he would be an alien after all he was said to have descened and ascended on a cloud (UFO) to and from heaven, along with many other Religous figures, then the Christian crazys could say that the Bible is truth. Of course all this would be a scam a cover for the aliens who want to control the humans, But the religous fools would justify these aliens as the return of the messiah ffs! especially if they could perform miracles like jesus.

This would just be advanced science not miracles.

[deca]

Our thougts can be read caputured fact! so they could be beamed at light speed across the galaxy. Our brains the reciever could be changed.
so in the past aliens could of found a sutable host us and beamed thoughts on to us and changed us.
Just a thought.

[spectator]

Eternal Spirit, you could be right, of course. Stories like those of Swerdlow could be attempts to program us to accept the Illuminati once they appear to us as they really are, which I think they intend to do at some point. I don't doubt the sincerity of Mr. Swerdlow (perhaps I SHOULD!). I think he is sincere, but I wonder that the Illuminati were not able to foresee that he would "go over to the other side" long before he did. They could have fed him with loads of false information knowing that he would one day rebel against them. However, I do recommend that you read his book. It is very detailed and involved, although short. If he made all of that stuff up, he has a terrific imagination! I intend to get others of his books., especially those that deal with human origins.

[tonto o_reilly]

Have you read much of michael tsarions work?

TO

[spectator]

No, tonto, I'm not familiar with Tsarion's work, but you can be sure I will be, shortly.

[lolo]

Well, we're not very different genetically from just about every other animal species on the planet. :)

I do agree, though, that it is odd how homo sapiens sapiens suddenly appeared about 200,000 years ago and started plonking down villages then towns then cities once they'd 'moved out of Africa' by about 12,000 years ago. When they got to Europe and the closest bit of Asia, they found people already living there, namely Neanderthals. Not long after that our cousins packed it in and went extinct. Meanwhile, homo erectus had got all over the place and kindly died out before we arrived in Asia and the Americas. That was nice of them, wasn't it?

It's almost as though 'somebody' was experimenting... :)

men ay think that evollusen theori is feik end tht peopel come from afrika is also feik

[tinmenace]

A better question would be are all the souls on earth from earth? Our bodies are tied to the earthly genetics, but what about our souls? Maybe some of us are truly alien in spirit, hence no attachment or oneness with the earth.

I've always felt that way. I've always felt that it's an 'inter-galactic' thing (for the lack of a better expression). If Earth is not the only place the can foster life, then surely we're not all from 'here', and our experiences are not exclusive to this planet.

I love this gorgeous planet, but I don't really feel like I'm from it. I've always said it, even as a child...but only now do people not scold me for saying such silly things, although some do raise their eyebrows and back away slowly.

We're here for a reason. Maybe we're here to help. After all, these are very interesting times, with great changes on the way. Can you feel it?

[tinmenace]

He claims he was told that our ancestors were entirely spiritual, nonphysical beings who first "descended into flesh" five billion years ago on a planet in a star system close to the center of this Galaxy, called the Lyrae star system. They did this, apparently, to experience the pleasure of physical existence.

The Draconians were created by a non-pysical race from the far future who traveled back in time to provide a "challenge" for the Lyrean humans...Thus motivated to pursue and conquer the Lyreans, they attacked the Lyrean system with fearsome weapons and apparently destroyed Lyrae itself, but not before some Lyreans escaped to space. These Lyrean refugees fanned out across the Galaxy, colonizing hundreds of worlds. Over vast amounts of time, the different environmental conditions on each of these colonized worlds caused the Lyrean descendants to develop different-looking bodies and genetics.





All very interesting, but I'm always curious how people that say this sort of thing know these details, like "5 billion years ago", "Lyrae", "fearsome weapons", etc.

See, my problem is that unless I can process the information in a way that I can understand it, I simply cannot take at face value this sort of information. I have no way of proving or disproving these claims, so this would require me to believe it based simply on faith. This of course is no different to believing Jesus existed simply based on faith.

The reptilian shape shifters? I absolutely believe it because I've found actual evidence that supports it. There is such a thing as shape-shifting, based on vibration and sound. Reptilians? Absolutely! Strange birth anomolies like tails, tells me there is something in our DNA that makes this happen.

I found an interesting program on TV about some scientific project where they are going to try and regrow limbs lost in battle, for example. The scientist said that there is a gene identical to that of lizards and frogs that would allow us to regrow limbs, but that this gene is "switched off" during the first months of embryo development. This means that we have the ability, but our DNA has been programmed to switch off that capability. Since I believe fully that we are an engineered species, I believe that these sort of capabilities were denied us. After all, how powerful would that be if we could just heal ourselves and regrow damaged body parts?

No, we were engineered to be inferior to them in the physical sense, and for the longest time our spirit have been suppressed too. But it's all changing. Their actions tell me they are desperate now, and that is why they are speeding up their agenda, blatantly forging ahead. They're beginning to panic. They know change is coming. Can you feel it?

[cycle of eternity]

in a universal respect, we are aliens.

[spectator]

Tinmenace, I offered what Swerdlow says in his book about human origins not expecting that everyone would believe it, but merely to take it as a possible scenario. It's interesting to me, too, but I'm fully aware that, as you say, there is no way to verify what he says. That, unfortunately, is the nature of this kind of information. If we had a science that really tried to get at the truth rather than validating and safeguarding scientists' reputations and keeping people's minds brainwashed to accept only materialistic, deterministic views of themselves and the Universe, perhaps we really could validate or disprove some of this information. But, as it is, we can't.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I hope so.

[who elsie]

'WE ARE ALL ALIENS!' by The Cult of Penn (http://www.cultofpenn.co.uk/WE%20R%20ALL%20ALIENS%20track.htm). Says it all, really.