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peace111
02-11-2009, 12:04 PM
PREDATORY GANGSTALKING

"Predatory Gangstalking is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade all areas of an individual's life on a continuing basis, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B.Ross c 2005

Tactics of Predatory Gangstalking include highly coordinated surveillance (hidden cameras, conversation bugging in private aswell as public), harassment, and psychological, psychosocial, financial, and sometimes physical assaults on an individual by a large group of people who are often strangers to the targeted individual.

A Predatory Gangstalking group is a well-run organization comprised of
members who are unidentified as gangstalkers to the outside world. Until a group of gangstalkers turn their face towards someone selected to be one of their targets, members of society do not realize there is such an invisible group. The practitioners of predatory gangstalking are people who, for the most part, go about their business of daily life appearing like everyone else, except for their activities involved with Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory gangstalking activities take priority over everything else in the lives of Predatory Gangstalkers. Predatory gangstalking is actually a lifestyle for those who participate in it.

Predatory Gangstalking is also called "terror stalking", "gangstalking", "flash mobbing", "cause stalking," "hate stalking," "multi-stalking, "happy slapping," "workplace bullying, and "covert war."

. "Flash mobbing" is an event occurring when a targeted individual is spotted in society. Their photo and location is immediately and simultaneously sent out by cell phone text messages and Internet email to all gangstalkers within a certain radius. All gangstalkers then suddenly descend upon the target as a mob.

. "Cause stalking" refers to gangstalking by single-issue radicals.
They stalk a targeted person related to that specific agenda. "Cause stalking" has been reported to have been carried out by radical Christians who believe in "dominion theology."

Dominion Theology is a religious interpretation of the Bible which these
groups believe requires them to "take dominion over the earth" which they believe is the precursor to the return of Jesus to earth. "Cause stalkers" in general believe that they are bringing about social change through gangstalking activities. "Cause stalking" can be carried out by White Supremacist as a form of "Hate Stalking (Scientology groups are another eg.)." This type of predatory gangstalking is primarily for the purpose of intimidation and often is a precursor to or an adjunct to violence.

. "Happy slapping" refers to group harassment of one youth by other youths carried live over cell phones equipped to handle video to peers youths. The young gangstalkers slap around the targeted youth while laughing at him or her while several other youths broadcast the incident live to as many peers as possible.

. "Ritual Gangstalking" is reportedly performed by cults and secret organizations such as Satanists, secret orders of free masons, some voodoo /obeah practitioners and Scientologists as a means of control or for punishment. "Ritual abuse" is incorporated into "ritual gangstalking" patterns in this case.

N.B. Obeah is considered one of the darkest forms of black magic known. Blood sacrifice is always used and the intent is to harm, even to death, another person.

. "Workplace bullying" involves gangstalking activities tailored to the workplace
which are carried out by a group of employees against another individual employee.

* "Cybergangstalking" is a situation where an individual is identified to be a target through Internet participation and their personal identity is determined. Cybergangstalkers pierce the electronic veil and are able to enter into the real life of a person, creating all forms of harassment, theft, psychological operations including slander and libel, and able to commit crimes against the targeted individual.

* "Vigilante Stalking, Terror Stalking" is the same as Predatory
Stalking.

For the purpose of this informational writing, all activities will be referred to as "predatory gangstalking" because the tactics and characteristics of the gangstalking are the same. And often a targeted person will become the victim of more than one type of gangstalking.


"Predatory Gangstalking" is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade an individual's life on a continuous basis, to an extreme degree, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B. Ross

Predatory Gangstalking is reported by historians to have been originally developed by social scientists and psychologists in communist and fascist's countries as a means of control of individuals within those societies. The tactics and techniques of Predatory Gangstalking were developed through animal and then human experimentation. The methodology of Predatory Gangstalking is precise and well-orchestrated. It is reported that the technical mechanics for Predatory Gangstalking werefirst sold on the Black Market by the ruling party leaders of East Germany when the USSR political systems crumbled. These protocols were subsequently exported to other countries and implemented there against unsuspecting citizens. Predatory
Gangstalking has been reportedly against citizens worldwide. Thus far, it has continued unchecked. One of the reasons for the unchallenged proliferation of this form of organized crime is that it characteristically takes place in such a way that it is invisible to the untrained eye. It is understandably, therefore, considered to be the ‘perfect crime’, as it remains unchallenged and extremely difficult to prove.

The countries with the greatest number of reports are the US, Canada, Germany, and England. In the US, the states with the greatest number of reported predatory gangstalkings are California, Texas, and New York. The predominant proportion of individuals targeted by gangstalkers are non-Caucasians. It is difficult to find other predominant similar characteristics in targets. The reasons that an individual is selected for targeting are unknown. It can only be speculated to include reasons such as easy accessibility to the target, random selection for training for new Predatory Gangstalkers, minority group member relative to hate-based groups, making an example of someone, revenge, retaliation, and social control.

Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians, members of hate groups such as White Supremacists, members of motorcycle and street gangs, and homeless people. They are also often people with a background in the military, including disabled Vets. Higher levels in the Predatory Gangstalking organizations include people in military and law enforcement or with same experience, secret service/defence employees, government officials, Banking firms, and so on. It has been reported that top level government security and intelligence agencies use gangstalking tactics in covert operations. What is most baffling about Predatory Gangstalking is that many of the practitioners of this social pathology appear to be regular mainstream people with no prior criminal record, predominantly in the socio-economic middle class. It is presumed they participate for the money or rewards they receive in the form of barter or for a social-conscience feelgood factor.


The world of Predatory Gangstalking increases as new recruits are initiated into the Predatory Gangstalking process. Therefore, a target may see collusion and participation from neighbors and co- workers who were once on good terms with the target. The circle of predatory gangstalkers widens with time. However, most of the time, the gangstalkers are complete strangers to the target. In most of the encounters the target has with gangstalkers, the target does not recognize the perpetrators but the gangstalkers readily recognize the target. Further, these predatory strangers possess detailed knowledge about the targeted individual. Most often, Predatory Gangstalking is being engaged in by parties unknown, for reasons unknown, to the target. People have died after a lifetime of protracted Predatory Gangstalking without having any explanations as to who was doing this or why this happened to them.

Sometimes, the leaders in these large affiliated groups of gangstalkers have specialized military expertise in the areas of military intelligence, military electronics and equipment, and in military strategic and tactical training. Those without formal military training have often engaged in paramilitary activities or have technical skills commonly found in successful career criminals. Others who join a Predatory Gangstalking group without such a background are given on-the-job training, in addition to other gangstalking skills. It can be said with certainty that there are specific protocols and tactics and most gangstalkers appear to be proficient in a similar set of skills.

Predatory Gangstalkers each have their own individual skill that they contribute towards their common goal in the group. One person in a group knows how to pick locks; another knows how to hack into computers, while someone else provides the GPS and electronic equipment. Many Predatory Gangstalking members know how to tamper with a vehicle. Some predatory gangstalkers are practiced "look outs" while others are group leaders. Predatory gangstalking groups have their rank and file as in any other organization. Orders come from the top, just as in any other organization. However, it is unknown whether the top of the organizations are local, regional, national, or international.

Predatory Gangstalkers use state-of-the-art technology coupled with law-enforcement- style surveillance tactics. Typically, the individual gangstalkers are strangers to the target. ("Happy slapping" and "workplace bullying" are the most common exceptions) Participants in predatory gangstalking are well-trained. The tactics and techniques they use are similar all around the world in the numerous countries where this has been reported. Each group of predatory gangstalkers is a covert army unto themselves. They have incorporated specialized techniques originally used by spies during the cold war. They carry out their field work with military style precision. Then, they go about their daily lives, just like any other member of society, in most cases. Their gangstalking skills are highly sophisticated, and their commitment to Predatory Gangstalking exceeds zealousness. It appears to both an observer and a target that nothing required of them in terms of time or availability is too much trouble for them. As stated previously, but worth
repeating, predatory gangstalking activities take priority in the lives of those who practice Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory Gangstalkers are a functioning subculture of society that move invisibly through society as such. This is by design, making it even more dangerous to society.


The goals of Predatory Gangstalking of an individual are numerous. Predatory
Gangstalking is intended to deprive someone of their freedoms and rights. It destroys a person's privacy and control of their own environments. It is intended to create distress, disrupt all relationships, deplete person's resources, destroy one's physical and mental health, and inflict great overall long term suffering. They interfere with a target's sleep thereby producing chronic sleep deprivation, as a strategic tactic. They employ a variety of interactions with the targeted individual which are likely to produce accidents and various forms of illness. One of the main weapons they use for their own protection and to enable their success in gangstalking is to manipulate the target's life in such a way as to cause them to lose their credibility with others. This is usually the first objective reached. After that, gangstalking the target involves only minor risk. Notably, people who become involved generally stop caring about the abuse by either turning a blind eye or actively joining in. While others, though concerned for the target, become too frightened to speak out or come to believe the propoganda that the target is mentally ill and needs ‘this‘ help.

Predatory Gangstalking also involves provoking "accidents" and consequences of harm to the target. Predatory Gangstalkers will surrounding a target's moving vehicle and attempting to force them off of the road when they are stressed and exhausted.

Worse, these tactics will be employed after tampering with a targeted individual's vehicle. Predatory Gangstalking is very serious business. Predatory Gangstalking is, at the least, psychological violence, and at most, it is a protracted sadistic sociopathic domination and calculated destruction of an innocent human being for reasons of pleasure, power, and social control by a group predatory stranger.

It is rightfully assumed that money is involved in Predatory Gangstalking
because of the amount of resources required to execute such extensive efforts. The gangstalkers develop capabilities directly proportionate to the amount money that funds them. In following the money trail speculatively, one looks to the possibility that drug money is involved. Some people reason that the government may be involved because of the amount of resources that are available to the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking. Other individual situations seem to indicate that corporations, insurance companies, and even wealthy individuals with revenge motives fund a Predatory Gangstalking.

In addition to cash payment for participation in Predatory Gangstalking, other forms of barter are used. These include drugs, *, alcohol, reciprocal favors, release from debts, jobs, contracts,"deals" for legal problems, and other forms of compensation. Some gangstalkers are given free housing in exchange for performing Predatory Gangstalking activities against a nearby target. However, it is clear from observing Predatory Gangstalkers in action that many engage in it for pleasure. One high ranking leader in Predatory Gangstalking stated that it was like an addiction. He described how the build up and culmination of a gangstalking assault was intoxicating, but that there was a let-down feeling afterwards that compelled him to do it again, and the cycle continued.


It is also true that some people participate in Predatory Gangstalking because they are deceived into participating. Friends, neighbors and associates of a selected target are given false information and finally come to believe the targeted individual has committed a heinous crime for which they deserve what is portrayed them to be rehabilitative social intervention. Sometimes people reluctantly participate in indirect ways, such as making their homes available at times for part of the operation, for fear of consequences if they did not. Others involved in Predatory Gangstalking, including the homeless, do so for money or drugs. Disabled Vets are known to participate in Predatory Gangstalking activities for alleged government or defense contractor's projects. Predatory Gangstalkers have successfully elicited the participation of neighbors by appealing to their sense of service to the community or government, often representing themselves as affiliates
of the government or law enforcement. Lastly, those who are in the underworld or secret organizations practice Predatory Gangstalking as part of their membership duties.

The craft and practice of Predatory Gangstalking appears to be standardized around the world. Many similarities parallel incidents reported by targets internationally. It appears that there is a standard protocol involving a series of tactics, progressive phases, and nature of assaults. It appears that an individual has been selected to become a target and the groundwork has been established for their assaults long before the individual can be aware that something criminal is occurring in their lives and to their person. Predatory Gangstalkers achieve this strategically. By the time the targeted individual becomes aware that something very threatening and disturbing is happening to them, they have already been thoroughly investigated by their enemies, stigmatized, discredited, and compromised. All wells have been already poisoned, so to speak, and all avenues of help and escape have been blocked.

Predatory Gangstalkers first establish "information dominance" over a targeted individual. This achievement alone enables them to attain excessive power over the targeted individual. It is believed that this is accomplished by means of eavesdropping devices in the target's environment, global positioning technology (GPS) secreted on their vehicles, obtaining illegal access to all of a targeted individual's personal records such banks accounts, emails, medical records, and credit card purchases. They are often able to achieve 100% surveillance of a targeted individual and almost 100% access to a targeted individual's entire lifetime of available information from any computer, paper, photographic, or personal source. They use all of the information obtained to ambush and sabotage a targeted individual. Predatory Gangstalkers ultimately become capable of entering a target's house, place of employment, and vehicle at-will and often. All forms of communications in the targeted individual's life is interfered with by the gangstalkers. They will intercept email, tamper with voicemail, and obstruct the delivery of postal mail. The net result is that all communication in a targeted individual's life
will become unreliable and incomplete, both incoming and outgoing. The Predatory Gangstalkers are then capable of greater insidious manipulation and control.


Predatory Gangstalkers constantly update information about a target. Updates are promptly shared with all of the participants in that predatory gangstalking group. They take frequent photographs of the targeted individual, and maintain photos of the target's house, vehicle, place of employment, family, friends, and even the target's pets. They promptly disseminate this information through email and cell phones to other gangstalkers. This is the means by which a targeted individual is continually recognized by Predatory Gangstalkers everywhere they go. The Predatory Gangstalkers sadistically prefer to maintain a file of photos taken at points in time when the victimization reaches peaks, such as when a target is reaping consequences brought about by the gangstalkers, such as upon a targeted individual's firing, eviction, or when the person emotionally breaks down, or when they appear disheveled from insomnia or is fearful.

Psychological profiling is yet another tactic performed on a targeted individual for the purpose of finding weaknesses. They exploit all information obtained, including fears, triggers, value-conflicts, skeletons in the closet, areas of shame, addictions, vices, and all things they hold dear. They often successfully "interview" a target under various guises. They use the information obtained to maximize the Predatory Gangstalkers' ability to destroy the targeted individual.

Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking have their own coded language, both
verbal and visual. Each targeted individual is referred to by an assigned code word. Hand signals are an important tool of their universal protocol. Some hand signals resemble the mannerisms used in baseball and other sports. Other signals are those found in law enforcement and the military. They use hand signals to identify the area of a target's body designated to be the target of a pending physical attack. This is often the eyes and the heart. They also use hand signals to coordinate the unauthorized entry into a target's home or vehicle. They also use hand signals during roving vehicle caravans and while on foot, for the purpose of coordinating attacks and pointing out the location of a target. Vehicle alarm panic buttons and horns are other commonly used tools of communication and coordination. In residential areas, outside lights have an established set of messages. They also use "dead drops" like spies have done historically to secretly pass along information to one another. Public bathrooms are commonly utilized as locations for the transfer of information and equipment. Mobile pick-up and delivery systems are in place for this purpose as well. They have a set of questions and responses to confirm the identity of a predatory gangstalker to another which are also coded. In the USA they refer to money by the last names of the president whose face is on the bill. Someone may say "I have references. (translation: money). I know 5 of the Franklin's." Their coded language is universal to them.

Predatory Gangstalkers will begin an intense and extensive discrediting campaign against a selected target well before the target could even suspect he or she has an enemy. This critical tactic sets the stage for neighbors and associates to become alienated from the target. One of the Predatory Gangstalkers' goals is to eliminate all forms of support and assistance for the target. Towards this objective, the police are given anonymous "concerned citizen" tips designed to lead the police to believe the target is mentally unstable or a problem in the community in advance of any actual direct gangstalking of the targeted individual. This sets the stage for having the targeted individual prejudged so they will be disbelieved and dismissed when the gangstalking begins and they seek help. The discrediting campaign includes accusing the target of being an "undesirable" for any number of reasons, including fabricated reports of having committed crimes that are the most repulsive to members of society. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking even go so far as to represent themselves as undercover law enforcement or government agents. It has been reported that they will even show false documents for substantiation, but they will never leave them behind.

Financial devastation is another goal of Predatory Gangstalking. Towards this goal, they make attempts to destroy one's gainful employment, pose as offering services to intervene in the problem to further take your money, and will steal funds and personal property on an on-going basis. Repeated unauthorized entries into a target's residence, vehicles, computer, and workplace are hallmark tactics of this crime and is nearly impossible to stop. Predatory Gangstalkers can pick locks, bypass security alarms, and enter any location posing as utility crews, law enforcement, or delivery men. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking will apply for and obtain legitimate jobs in a target's home or business in order to have access to the target and their life, relationships, and assets just to do harm.


Predatory Gangstalking employs a tactic of syncronicity. This tactic involves the precise timing of interactions with the targeted individual. For example, the target can go out to get the morning newspaper and encounter gangstalking activities that suddenly appear and which are precisely synchronized. Throughout the targeted individual's day, these synchronized encounters repeatedly occur. Activities such as leaving one's driveway,
taking out the trash, going to a store, or even walking the dog, are activities which result in an encounter with one or more Predatory Gangstalkers. Even when a target strategically does not follow any set routine, these synchronized occurrences continue.

This makes the gangstalkers appear to be all- knowing and almost omnipresent in the mind of a new targeted individual. This is intimidating, demoralizing, and even terrorizing to targets. It is often unavoidable.

In the case of primary targeted individuals of gangstalking (the rare individuals who are the priority target of global gangstalking) the primary objective is to induce as much fear as possible and over time as the numbers of individuals that become involved or are made aware of a target, the abuse can increase substantially, so that there is no aspect of the targets life that is private or sacred. Rarely, if ever, does a targeted individual engage in an activity of daily living without the unwanted participation of Predatory Gangstalkers. The timing and coordination of these activities are remarkably precise. The targeted individual becomes aware that all of their activities include the presence of Predatory Gangstalkers. These gangstalkers demand to be noticed by their target, and if they are not, they will take an action to be noticed. This could include honking their horn strategically, making a comment, creating a scenario to get the attention of the targeted individual. Once noticed, they will return to non-contact, knowing that by that point, the targeted individual will henceforth anxiously watch for them.

Most times, however, these practitioners of gangstalking maintain the appearance of "business as usual." They rarely make direct contact, with some exception. However, these strangers often boldly smirk and openly laugh at the targeted individual at some close point in the encounter. This is the universal exception to the "no direct contact" protocol. Other times, when verbal or physical contact is made, these encounters are conducted in such a way as to appear to have been "happenstance."

Since most of the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking rotate in and out of the life of a target, the same patterns of gangstalking will occur, but it will involve different people all the time. Therefore, many different stranger and many different vehicles will walk, drive, or bike past the target and interact in some manner, at various times and locations. All of the predatory gangstalkers will be strangers to the targeted individual and they
will continue to make their presence, but not their purpose, known. This is one element of Predatory Gangstalking that is disbelieved by others. These "others" include law enforcement, the medical profession, and family. Those who are unaware of activities of subcultures such as criminals, secret organizations, clubs, extremist groups, radical political groups, hate groups, organized crime groups, and other antisocial groups, the scope of attack by Predatory Gangstalkers is unfathomable. Never the less, the extent of this massive assault on one individual is as extensive as described here and even more so.

Let it be said that we really do live in amazing times. The world itself has seen much change and turmoil even in the last century, and with the increase of technology, the desire in those who choose to live out of balance with life and try to live in dominance and control of the masses have opted for this horrendous path of ‘stolen power’. This may sound quite vague, and it is, only because the other face of ganstalking or rather the precise reason for its use deals with a more incredible phenomena than hasn't been touched up yet. In the first instance, we mustn't be so naïve as to assume that our governments and all those that have been granted the power and authority to run our world are acting from a selfless perspective. They simply are not. The secrets of the universe, God and true power have always been the Holy Grail of man, and the desperate desire to achieve and own them by some.

To this effect the studies and research that has been conducted since time immemorial have been immense, with the one of the holiest of holiest being the understanding of the human mind, soul and will and how these can be controlled and used far more readily than man has been able to achieve so far. And it is for these reasons that extensive and more covert experimentation has been undertaken on people targeted for this work. These people are the targetted individuals of gangstalking.

Our minds are complex structures, our memories (long and short term), our thought processes, our fears and so on. If it is true that we do indeed manifest what we think as countless experts have us believe and that spiritually we are indeed one soul fragmented but unequivocally connected in a unified field, then it stands to reason that if one or a few souls and minds can be controlled then this will lead to the occupation of ALL. This of course sounds like insane rantings but assuredly this is the reality humanity faces today. There is a dark agenda to control all minds by controlling the energetic fields of existence, our physical bodies, dna, etheric fields, mental and emotional fields and so on.

Next, imagine for a moment if a ‘Lucifer’ were also created from one of the targeted individuals, more than just the social pariah they started as, what if society is lead to believe that they are actually a satanic entity or individual. In doing so, a common enemy is created with which to blame all eventual chaos upon. This is another portion of the agenda.

It is in the end the stuff of nightmares and what has been called dark prophecy or conspiracy theory is actually ancient agenda in it’s final stages of being played out.

On a personal level, participating in any form of gangstalking is not only insane but utterly immoral, and spiritually and ciminally corrupt. If you care, choose never to participate, inform the target (carefully/secretly), make a united stand with friends and neighbours not participate and log all the evidence you can - takedown all information you can. Be smart, technology and the capability of those that have orchestrated these world terrors are immense.

But most of all remember that the 'fear matrix' within the collective consciousness of humanity is an overall target. If people are afraid they can be controlled. Stand firm in a belief of your divinity and eternal being (whether you believe in a God or not) you are still part Omnipotent Grace experiencing on earth.

Peace be with us all.

dantesinferno
02-11-2009, 12:32 PM
please post proof, also what governments do this?

peace111
02-11-2009, 12:58 PM
Did you read the whole article? I don't see how you can ask that if you did.

peace111
02-11-2009, 01:48 PM
Is anyone in this forum experiencing this type of abuse?

dantesinferno
02-11-2009, 03:10 PM
you typing a load of stuff does not make it true, let me guess, you have personal experience of this?

I'm not saying it's not true but would like to know what you base this on and who is doing it, saying its standardize around the world is a little vague don't you think?

peace111
02-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Here's the thing...and it's quite important....I actually don't need to prove anything to 'you'. Although I most definitely can. But you are neither the true law of the land, or seemingly stand for it, or can make a difference to targets, or are even a sympathiser (judging by your hostile approach to me) so it would be pointless for me to even bother. If you had read the article with a true and open mind you would definitely or should have understood the issue and wouldn't be asking for proof or trying to diminish what is actually a serious abuse. It would be more civil and less judgemental to be less hostile in your approach to other people especially those you have only just come into contact with, like me. And it would have been kinder and friendlier to ask politely, something along the lines of....'I haven't heard of this before, I have to say I can't really say whether this is true or not as I don't have any personal experience but I would be interested to know more...' or something like that, right?

As with anything though, if it resonates with you that is all well and good but if it doesn't then feel free to move on friend. I am surprised that someone in David Icke's forum is even questioning this when very similar things happened to him, especially in the early stages of his journey and the bashing he got from the press when he tried to explain himself and the abuse he was receiving.

To be honest it shouldn't really surprise me, although I'm newish to this forum I've encountered so many planted bullies, aggressors, dis-informers, terrormongerers, liars, agenda ridden posters etc. etc. in so many, if not, all forums of ANY kind lol, that I in all honesty am no longer interested in them and their nonsense. I don't know who you are but you jumped on this with the same ferocity that so many 'such people' do that I don't care to share with you and I also don't appreciate it so would ask that you don't approach me like that again please. If you are ever truly interested in anything I say in the future then ask nicely please and don't try to make me feel like a liar, bad or low. A few good manners, please.

Ian2day
02-11-2009, 03:48 PM
It's Organised Crime masscerading as alphabet agencies.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89496

dantesinferno
02-11-2009, 03:51 PM
I may be blunt but I just asked you for proof or even what you base your essay on, I guess I am hostile to the amount of crap on this forum and that includes your post, not you personally.

peace111
02-11-2009, 03:58 PM
Then don't waste your time, any more...move on.

peace111
02-11-2009, 04:10 PM
It's Organised Crime masscerading as alphabet agencies.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89496

I don't agree so much, if you mean that you believe 'mafia' are behind this. I have a taped confession of a high ranking military officer who expresses his heartfelt sadness for ever being part of any such thing. I have a confession by banking officials that they are coerced into acting out certain harrassing activities, etc. etc. Also, I did not say that the primary organisation behind this was Governement. BUT, rather, that high ranking government officials are fully aware and allowing this to continue. They are part of a large organisation that has connections or at least uses all sectors of society, including organised crime/criminals.

By and large though, organised crime is profiteering only. Gangstalking is part of a more abhorrent crime and altogether different. It is not about making money. It is primarily about gaining power and control, human research and experiment.

Ian2day
02-11-2009, 04:35 PM
I don't agree so much, if you mean that you believe 'mafia' are behind this. I have a taped confession of a high ranking military officer who expresses his heartfelt sadness for ever being part of any such thing. I have a confession by banking officials that they are coerced into acting out certain harrassing activities, etc. etc. Also, I did not say that the primary organisation behind this was Governement. BUT, rather, that high ranking government officials are fully aware and allowing this to continue. They are part of a large organisation that has connections or at least uses all sectors of society, including organised crime/criminals.

By and large though, organised crime is profiteering only. Gangstalking is part of a more abhorrent crime and altogether different. It is not about making money. It is primarily about gaining power and control, human research and experiment.

Theres various different things that go on for sure. You know that you are on the right path, when it is directed at you. Just laugh at all the mind control techniques they attempt to employ. Even do them back. That will really make them lose the plot. lol

chrysoprase
02-11-2009, 04:42 PM
please post proof, also what governments do this?

you typing a load of stuff does not make it true, let me guess, you have personal experience of this?

I'm not saying it's not true but would like to know what you base this on and who is doing it, saying its standardize around the world is a little vague don't you think?

I may be blunt but I just asked you for proof or even what you base your essay on, I guess I am hostile to the amount of crap on this forum and that includes your post, not you personally.

How ironic! :D A thread about government gangstalking gets it's own bully!

Are you really interested, Dantesinferno? Does this subject intrigue you or are you just being dismissive? Out of curiousity, you don't like alot of "crap" here - so may I ask what initially brought you here? What is your favorite forum/thread in which you do agree with - or have shared your own personal experiences, thoughts or interests?:)

"Please post proof" Phffft.... are you used to snapping your fingers and having people scurry to do your bidding? I may be blunt, but I would like for your to provide some disproof. Sorry, but I am hostile to the amount of crap on this forum and that includes your post, not you personally.:)

Gangstalking is part of a more abhorrent crime and altogether different. It is not about making money. It is primarily about gaining power and control, human research and experiment.

I think it is also used to discourage people from doing their own research. For instance, some UFO researchers have been bullied and threatened.

jimmi
02-11-2009, 04:46 PM
I would also like to know more about the origin of this 'article', I have read something similar previously where there was a guide on 'how to do' what the article is about but no info as to why or to whom this is/has been done.

Is this information being spread in order to start the activities described? To provoke people to 'jump on a bandwagon' that is only rolling because of people reading the 'how to' as documented in the OP.?

peace111
02-11-2009, 04:48 PM
Theres various different things that go on for sure. You know that you are on the right path, when it is directed at you. Just laugh at all the mind control techniques they attempt to employ. Even do them back. That will really make them lose the plot. lol

There is some truth in that...the bizarro stuff, as I like to think of it, I leave to higher powers to deal with.... but to be frank, the more tangible stuff like sabotaging employment, destroying finances, frightening friends and family off to the point where they tell you 'we have to protect ourselves, we can't be seen to help you' etc. etc. isn't so straight forward to deal with and though laughably insane needs better management than playing mind games.

Ian2day
02-11-2009, 04:56 PM
There is some truth in that...the bizarro stuff, as I like to think of it, I leave to higher powers to deal with.... but to be frank, the more tangible stuff like sabotaging employment, destroying finances, frightening friends and family off to the point where they tell you 'we have to protect ourselves, we can't be seen to help you' etc. etc. isn't so straight forward to deal with and though laughably insane needs better management than playing mind games.

I think some of it is to stop you from meditating. If at home you have no peace, and no peace when out and about. Then it is harder to be at one with everything due to distractions.

peace111
02-11-2009, 05:08 PM
I would also like to know more about the origin of this 'article', I have read something similar previously where there was a guide on 'how to do' what the article is about but no info as to why or to whom this is/has been done.

Is this information being spread in order to start the activities described? To provoke people to 'jump on a bandwagon' that is only rolling because of people reading the 'how to' as documented in the OP.?


I don't follow you at all, your sentences don't make sense to me. Are you asking me if I'm trying to start up gangstalking... in here? or teach people to or some other hostile, trouble making nonsense? Deary me, that would be pretty disgusting if you were. And what is the OP.

It is quite obvious that this is not a how to guide if you should care to read it fully and without jumping to conclusions. I am also quite obviously not advocating gangstalking or any such thing. Please post relevent, useful stuff. This sounds like a nonsense comment to me.

peace111
02-11-2009, 05:12 PM
I think some of it is to stop you from meditating. If at home you have no peace, and no peace when out and about. Then it is harder to be at one with everything due to distractions.

There is some truth in this. But it's important to find your personal peace giving things. The things that centre and ground you, inspite of the lunatic fringe. You also have to remind yourself that no matter what you do, what they do is what is truly insane.

peace111
02-11-2009, 05:19 PM
How ironic! :D A thread about government gangstalking gets it's own bully!

Are you really interested, Dantesinferno? Does this subject intrigue you or are you just being dismissive? Out of curiousity, you don't like alot of "crap" here - so may I ask what initially brought you here? What is your favorite forum/thread in which you do agree with - or have shared your own personal experiences, thoughts or interests?:)

"Please post proof" Phffft.... are you used to snapping your fingers and having people scurry to do your bidding? I may be blunt, but I would like for your to provide some disproof. Sorry, but I am hostile to the amount of crap on this forum and that includes your post, not you personally.:)



I think it is also used to discourage people from doing their own research. For instance, some UFO researchers have been bullied and threatened.


Exactly! Thankyou for posting.

jimmi
02-11-2009, 05:29 PM
OP.=original post

Ok(okay) Peace, Is the OP. your own work or an article by another?

edit
And if you take care to read my post you may note that I asked questions and there are no "conclusions" by me.

bradstone
02-11-2009, 05:35 PM
OP.=original post

Ok(okay) Peace, Is the OP. your own work or an article by another?

edit
And if you take care to read my post you may note that I asked questions and there are no "conclusions" by me.

I'm pretty much convinced that gangstalking is BS unless you are a very special individual.

For example, it's reasonable to think that somebody like David Kelly may have been gangstalked.

However, most people who claim to have experienced this, are clearly deluded. Maybe mentally ill, and trying to make their lives sound more interesting.

peace111
02-11-2009, 05:37 PM
OP.=original post

Ok(okay) Peace, Is the OP. your own work or an article by another?


Okay original post..ty.

The article is a combined effort and yes that means some of my work/words. And your point is?... to distract from the content, I assume, by focussing on the irrelevent and the untrue.

Jimmi, tell me something useful about the content and the issue raised in the article please. Anything about your useful thoughts on it. How about that, maybe ;)

jimmi
02-11-2009, 06:12 PM
I will share some of my thoughts on the subject,certainly, that is what the forum is about , isn't it?

I think the OP. is a load of fearmongering crap, I thought it would be more prudent to investigate the source of the crap before arriving at that conclusion but the hostility shown to me through the wording of your replies prompts a more direct response!

bradstone
02-11-2009, 06:49 PM
"Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians."

Point made, but since most people are not members of turf-warring biker gangs, drug runners, or abortion doctors, then gang stalking is not something that is ever likely to cause problems for the vast majority of people out there.

This is why Jimmi is rightly arguing that it's all based in fear.

Why should we be concerned, when most people on this forum are New Agers who are not even taking any action against the politicians?

I mean common thinking in here is that yoga and meditation is the answer. Can we really expect British SIS to start gang-stalking us, afraid that our yoga sessions might thwart their plans for global domination?

peace111
02-11-2009, 06:54 PM
I will share some of my thoughts on the subject,certainly, that is what the forum is about , isn't it?

I think the OP. is a load of fearmongering crap, I thought it would be more prudent to investigate the source of the crap before arriving at that conclusion but the hostility shown to me through the wording of your replies prompts a more direct response!

You aren't making sense. Why would it have been more prudent lol? It's completely irrelevent. If you thought it was crap what difference would it have made who posted it. Are you saying that if say Einstein, the Virgin Mary, Buddah or whomever you deem credible/believable posted it you would believe but if it is someone you don't rate you wouldn't?? I would have thought that it would be more sensible to make your mind up based on the content and the information posted and not the poster, right? At least I do. That way you don't suffer gurus and other agenda ridden nutjobs taking you in. Also, let's face it you came to my post and were diverting the topic off the content of the post and slyly trying to cause doubt of me. Be honest, please. I think that's actual hostility right there, whereas I was assertively steering you back on course.

Although, fear mongering does exist, the actual terms 'fear mongering' and 'conspiracy theory' are now such overused and misused catchphrases, it's a joke. They seem to be applied to everything by those who want to hide their abusive ways. In particular, they've been adopted to prevent people from discussing, debating, etc. all pertinent socio-economic issues that exist and are harming them. It is a way of discrediting in one fell swoop anyone who objects to or questions abuse, misjustice or anything along those lines. It has reached a point now that no authoritative organisation can be questioned without the questioner being accused of c.t. or f.m lol ....you know that's ridiculous right?

Fear is also a pretty individual thing. If that article scares you I suggest you do all you can to eliminate it from your mind and find less frightening things to continue to debate.

Ian2day
02-11-2009, 06:55 PM
"Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians."

Point made, but since most people are not members of turf-warring biker gangs, drug runners, or abortion doctors, then gang stalking is not something that is ever likely to cause problems for the vast majority of people out there.

This is why Jimmi is rightly arguing that it's all based in fear.

Why should we be concerned, when most people on this forum are New Agers who are not even taking any action against the politicians?

I mean common thinking in here is that yoga and meditation is the answer. Can we really expect British SIS to start gang-stalking us, afraid that our yoga sessions might thwart their plans for global domination?

British SIS will subvert you into yoga. Away from any meanigefull dissent of their hegomanistic CONtrol. I think they all need to face the facts, they will lose the CONflict in the end. They had the oppertunity to enable Ascension of humanity, instead they choosed September 2007.

tien an
02-11-2009, 07:05 PM
In my humble opinion, this is a description of what is coming up for those of us who choose to dissent in future.

Whilst some here may dismiss the OP as fearmongering, there's no harm in finding out what's going on, should you ever find yourself in the (undoubtedly uncomfortable) position of receiving such treatment.

Know thyself, know thine enemy.

Again, imho, if you know your enemy, you're halfway to beating them.
A lot of the psychological power drains out of this when you are informed.
It's a bit like your big brother, or best mate, pointing out the bully's weaknesses and modus operandi...the bully suddenly becomes much less scary.
Fear is generated, in the main, by the unknown.

A bit flippant, but I'll say it anyway: "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".

If any of you think the OP is far-fetched, just find the oldest Chinese immigrant you can find and sit and have a cup of tea with them, discussing this very subject.
(They don't have to be Chinese...they could also be Chilean, Iraqi, Pre-1989 inhabitant of the DDR...or anyone who has suffered at the hand of a totalitarian regime).

With no desire to insult you, peace111, you 'sound' very much like a certain Timothy Antiterrorist.

Good post. Depressing reading, but good post.

Heavenly Peace,
tian an.

flip side
02-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Gangstalking? Probably on a very limited scale against people that actually have something really 'worth' being gang stalked about as someone mentioned David Kelly, which is a good example. However, is it prevalent in our society? Doubtful. I would suggest people are on their guard to people who are encouraging a heightened sense of paranoia where everyone in their community, workplace, family, friends etc are looked at with suspicion as possible gangstalkers.

The mistrust in our communities is rife. Whose agenda was it to spread the mistrust? Divide the people and rule them. As if 'conspiracy theorists' weren't already viewed in society as 'paranoid' already they have people convincing them everyone is out to get them which will inevitably further alienate them from others.

peace111
02-11-2009, 07:10 PM
"Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians."

Point made, but since most people are not members of turf-warring biker gangs, drug runners, or abortion doctors, then gang stalking is not something that is ever likely to cause problems for the vast majority of people out there.

This is why Jimmi is rightly arguing that it's all based in fear.

Why should we be concerned, when most people on this forum are New Agers who are not even taking any action against the politicians?

I mean common thinking in here is that yoga and meditation is the answer. Can we really expect British SIS to start gang-stalking us, afraid that our yoga sessions might thwart their plans for global domination?

Most crimes occur to a minority of people and not the majority that doesn't mean that they should not be disclosed. I don't for one moment think that most will be gangstalked but there could come a time that they will be approached to perpetrate this crime against someone. The intention, therefore, was to highlight a very serious issue that affects certain people but to also encourage folk not ever participate in this crime. It is a crime of many against one. It's success is based on this fact.

Your last comments didn't make sense to me, so you may need to clarify what you were saying about yoga etc. That really didn't make sense. May I also say that it never ceases to amaze me when a forum poster decides they need to speak for everyone else......'Why should we be concerned, when most people on this forum are New Agers who are not even taking any action against the politicians?' That is never an honest thing to do.

peace111
02-11-2009, 07:20 PM
In my humble opinion, this is a description of what is coming up for those of us who choose to dissent in future.

Whilst some here may dismiss the OP as fearmongering, there's no harm in finding out what's going on, should you ever find yourself in the (undoubtedly uncomfortable) position of receiving such treatment.

Know thyself, know thine enemy.

Again, imho, if you know your enemy, you're halfway to beating them.
A lot of the psychological power drains out of this when you are informed.
It's a bit like your big brother, or best mate, pointing out the bully's weaknesses and modus operandi...the bully suddenly becomes much less scary.
Fear is generated, in the main, by the unknown.

A bit flippant, but I'll say it anyway: "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".

If any of you think the OP is far-fetched, just find the oldest Chinese immigrant you can find and sit and have a cup of tea with them, discussing this very subject.
(They don't have to be Chinese...they could also be Chilean, Iraqi, Pre-1989 inhabitant of the DDR...or anyone who has suffered at the hand of a totalitarian regime).

With no desire to insult you, peace111, you 'sound' very much like a certain Timothy Antiterrorist.

Good post. Depressing reading, but good post.

Heavenly Peace,
tian an.

Good points...I don't know what 'Timothy Antiterrorist' means though, you'll have to explain, sorry lol.

dolores1
02-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Oh Lord, just because you are feeling paranoid it doesn't mean THEY are not out to get you.

That quote is open, non judgemental, this can be the way tptb isolate people. Drive people over the edge. It is unusual but not unheard of.

tien an
02-11-2009, 07:42 PM
Good points...I don't know what 'Timothy Antiterrorist' means though, you'll have to explain, sorry lol.

You don't know The Antiterrorist? (Smiles...)
In that case, allow me the pleasure of introducing you: click! (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist)

peace111
02-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Gangstalking? Probably on a very limited scale against people that actually have something really 'worth' being gang stalked about as someone mentioned David Kelly, which is a good example. However, is it prevalent in our society? Doubtful. I would suggest people are on their guard to people who are encouraging a heightened sense of paranoia where everyone in their community, workplace, family, friends etc are looked at with suspicion as possible gangstalkers.

The mistrust in our communities is rife. Whose agenda was it to spread the mistrust? Divide the people and rule them. As if 'conspiracy theorists' weren't already viewed in society as 'paranoid' already they have people convincing them everyone is out to get them which will inevitably further alienate them from others.

Did you read my earlier posts? or even my comment about this being a crime against a minority.

What do you deem 'worth' being gangstalked for? The 'worth' of the target isn't something that you or anyone outside of this issue considers to be the 'worth'. The 'worth' is the worth to the gangstalking organisation at it's upmost levels, who orchestrate this, and this would also discount the value ascribed by the lower levels of gangstalking perpetrators as they are as much used as targets. So you, personally, can't identify a target based on things like occupation, activism, political status and other such things, it isn't your place or call.

I agree though that there is a definite problem of divide and conquer in society. But I think this is a standard thing in life, in all sorts of life circumstance and not something solely in the domain of gangstalking and issues related to it. Politicians have been using this tactic since time immemorial...right?

You said.....' I would suggest people are on their guard to people who are encouraging a heightened sense of paranoia where everyone in their community, workplace, family, friends etc are looked at with suspicion as possible gangstalkers.'

I didn't quite understand your point. Are you advising people to be on guard against anyone who suggests that gangstalking exists? Or are you suggesting that people guard against feeling paranoid that someone in their world is a gangstalker. If you meant the later..what made you think anyone should worry or guard against that or that I was even suggesting that. Lol this is actually quite simple. Let me break it down.

I am assuming that anyone with a decent conscience would consider the activity of gangstalking an abhorrent thing (leaving aside whether it exists or not) in which case the suggestion is that noone ever take part in harming another person in this way, IF they are ever approached to do so. And IF you were to ever discover someone that was participating in gangstalking, the call is yours. The main idea is to encourage individuals to reject participating of their own accord.

peace111
02-11-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm pretty much convinced that gangstalking is BS unless you are a very special individual.

For example, it's reasonable to think that somebody like David Kelly may have been gangstalked.

However, most people who claim to have experienced this, are clearly deluded. Maybe mentally ill, and trying to make their lives sound more interesting.

Lol, then move on.

peace111
02-11-2009, 07:59 PM
You don't know The Antiterrorist? (Smiles...)
In that case, allow me the pleasure of introducing you: click! (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist)

And you think that I am that man? No my dear, I'm a woman for a start lol. I watched about 7 or 8 seconds and switched off. I can't watch that tonight, sorry. Please don't post nonsense lol.

bluehorseman
02-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Gang stalking happens not just in the future but now. It is a systematic, organised phenomenon used against anyone who rocks the boat, watch out for it. If you value your privacy it could really mess your head - if you are ok with sharing your life with unknown others then you will get over it easier I suppose. I think some people stick out for targeting and probably get it from multiple organisations eg secret gangs or "syndicates" thats members support each other but nothing formally written down (the hunting and fishing clubs) through to alphabet organisations.

Don't believe it happens? Well the KKK was murdering blacks and getting away with it little more than 40 years ago and their organisation still exists.:mad:

peace111
02-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Oh Lord, just because you are feeling paranoid it doesn't mean THEY are not out to get you.

That quote is open, non judgemental, this can be the way tptb isolate people. Drive people over the edge. It is unusual but not unheard of.

Say what now? Which quote and poster are you referring to. This post isn't clear.

Gangstalking isn't personal. A target has to be convenient and easily attacked..the whole 'out to get you' line is also a misused and over used term. Althought the abuse is directed at a person the exact same rubbish would be directed at any/all other targets. What you do, say, who you are etc. etc. is incidental.. you will regardless be backed into a corner, discredited , black listed and hounded etc. Lol it isn't personal, even though it may seem that way.

whiterain
02-11-2009, 08:31 PM
I'm pretty much convinced that gangstalking is BS unless you are a very special individual.

For example, it's reasonable to think that somebody like David Kelly may have been gangstalked.

However, most people who claim to have experienced this, are clearly deluded. Maybe mentally ill, and trying to make their lives sound more interesting.

thats one way to look at it. also you could see how society has been formed to make us all potential gangstalkers/bullies/gangstalkees. who can say they were never bullied in school? ok its not the same as being rounded upon by the intel agencies or freemasons but i suspect it has many of its roots there.

we have all been conditioned to bully anyone we see as different or unusual, and isnt that essentially the same, no matter which people are carrying it out?

flip side
02-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Did you read my earlier posts? or even my comment about this being a crime against a minority.

What do you deem 'worth' being gangstalked for? The 'worth' of the target isn't something that you or anyone outside of this issue considers to be the 'worth'. The 'worth' is the worth to the gangstalking organisation at it's upmost levels, who orchestrate this, and this would also discount the value ascribed by the lower levels of gangstalking perpetrators as they are as much used as targets. So you, personally, can't identify a target based on things like occupation, activism, political status and other such things, it isn't your place or call.

I agree though that there is a definite problem of divide and conquer in society. But I think this is a standard thing in life, in all sorts of life circumstance and not something solely in the domain of gangstalking and issues related to it. Politicians have been using this tactic since time immemorial...right?

You said.....' I would suggest people are on their guard to people who are encouraging a heightened sense of paranoia where everyone in their community, workplace, family, friends etc are looked at with suspicion as possible gangstalkers.'

I didn't quite understand your point. Are you advising people to be on guard against anyone who suggests that gangstalking exists? Or are you suggesting that people guard against feeling paranoid that someone in their world is a gangstalker. If you meant the later..what made you think anyone should worry or guard against that or that I was even suggesting that. Lol this is actually quite simple. Let me break it down.

I am assuming that anyone with a decent conscience would consider the activity of gangstalking an abhorrent thing (leaving aside whether it exists or not) in which case the suggestion is that noone ever take part in harming another person in this way, IF they are ever approached to do so. And IF you were to ever discover someone that was participating in gangstalking, the call is yours. The main idea is to encourage individuals to reject participating of their own accord.

Ok, first off I meant 'worth' as in the sense of how TPTB would view the gang stalkee (if that's a word) i.e. David Kelly speaking out about the Weapons of Mass Destruction lie which would damage the government PR for war and jeopardising the huge oil contracts, re-construction contracts, permanent bases etc etc etc. This is when I agree this kind of activity goes on. As Icke received in the early 90's. These people challenge the status quo and therefore in the eyes of TPTB are what I meant as 'worth' gangstalking over, although I'm obviously not condoning it. Do I believe this happens in every day society, probably not. Not as organised group networks stretching across the globe as you describe.

I'd like to see evidence of what you're describing. Why should I not question you? It doesn't mean I dont care that there is a possibility that this sort of activity goes on I just want more than what you've provided so far? In this age of deceit this could equally be as likely gangstalking by TPTB as a big psy ops from TPTB. Until I see more evidence I'll sit on the fence between the two.

I appreciate the information and I'd expect most of the good people on the DI forum would never dream of taking part in such gangstalking activities. Was that your aim though, to come on here to make sure no-one took part in it? I would have thought the very nature of this forum would be totally against it.

peace111
02-11-2009, 08:32 PM
OP.=original post

Ok(okay) Peace, Is the OP. your own work or an article by another?

edit
And if you take care to read my post you may note that I asked questions and there are no "conclusions" by me.

You edited out the stuff that was mean nonsense to make this post more credible. tut tut

tien an
02-11-2009, 08:40 PM
And you think that I am that man? No my dear, I'm a woman for a start lol. I watched about 7 or 8 seconds and switched off. I can't watch that tonight, sorry. Please don't post nonsense lol.

I didn't say I thought you were that man. I said you 'sounded' like him. (both in the content of your post and its tone).
It's not for everyone, but to dismiss his messages as nonsense (after a few seconds) is the epitome of arrogance.

You're not the only one with an important message.

You may consider taking a few lessons in 'how to win friends and influence people'. Just a thought.
(I apologise for posting 'nonsense' in your thread...it's not my style; I won't bother you any longer...).

tian an.

peace111
02-11-2009, 09:03 PM
Ok, first off I meant 'worth' as in the sense of how TPTB would view the gang stalkee (if that's a word) i.e. David Kelly speaking out about the Weapons of Mass Destruction lie which would damage the government PR for war and jeopardising the huge oil contracts, re-construction contracts, permanent bases etc etc etc. This is when I agree this kind of activity goes on. As Icke received in the early 90's. These people challenge the status quo and therefore in the eyes of TPTB are what I meant as 'worth' gangstalking over, although I'm obviously not condoning it. Do I believe this happens in every day society, probably not. Not as organised group networks stretching across the globe as you describe.

I'd like to see evidence of what you're describing. Why should I not question you? It doesn't mean I dont care that there is a possibility that this sort of activity goes on I just want more than what you've provided so far? In this age of deceit this could equally be as likely gangstalking by TPTB as a big psy ops from TPTB. Until I see more evidence I'll sit on the fence between the two.

I appreciate the information and I'd expect most of the good people on the DI forum would never dream of taking part in such gangstalking activities. Was that your aim though, to come on here to make sure no-one took part in it? I would have thought the very nature of this forum would be totally against it.

Firstly, I am not David Kelly so it would be great if you quit talking about that person, it is irrelevent as I have explained. Or alternatively, how do you know that I am not David Kelly? You don't. I'm assuming by your constant reference to him that you would sympathise and agree with everything in the post? But if I'm not him then you wouldn't?? lol, don't be silly. You are in no position to judge. You know nothing about me or at least should know nothing about me as I have only just met you. You have assumed all sorts of things as to my worth as a target without any actual knowledge of who I am, what I've done etc. etc. lol. I could be the most radical, political activist in the world for all you know. I could be saving your ass as we type lol...how would you know dear. I am of course, exaggerating a bit, but needs must. . As I explained your opinion on the whether a target is worth gs'ing or not is completely irrelevent. As I have also explained gangstalking is not a personal thing. It isn't about the target in themselves. They are a means to an end.
Although public activists are attacked with many gangstalking type activities they are in the end not 'actual' targets.

As for evidence, like I said to another poster I don't need to provide you with evidence, it's incredibley arrogant of you to even request I share it with you lol. And, especially if in providing it I would jeopordise my evidence for any legal action I might take. Moreover, if you read the article fully you will understand that this is not something that can be proved to you in the limited space here. And if you were really interested you could easily research the issue for yourself on the net and you would come across a great deal of information and proof. You don't need me to spoonfeed you....right?

As for your comment...'I appreciate the information and I'd expect most of the good people on the DI forum would never dream of taking part in such gangstalking activities. Was that your aim though, to come on here to make sure no-one took part in it? I would have thought the very nature of this forum would be totally against it'

Say what now lol. Do you personally know everyone on the forum. I can assure you that from the short time I have been here I can already see that there is an, 'unsurprisingly' large number of agenda ridden agitators and trolls in here lol. Why wouldn't there be, it's common in every single forum. Your hostile diminishment of this issue and my raising it shows that you aren't even remotely sympathetic to this issue. People who care don't discredit without even getting to know someone. You aren't genuine please move on.

peace111
02-11-2009, 09:15 PM
I didn't say I thought you were that man. I said you 'sounded' like him. (both in the content of your post and its tone).
It's not for everyone, but to dismiss his messages as nonsense (after a few seconds) is the epitome of arrogance.

You're not the only one with an important message.

You may consider taking a few lessons in 'how to win friends and influence people'. Just a thought.
(I apologise for posting 'nonsense' in your thread...it's not my style; I won't bother you any longer...).

tian an.

I didn't dismiss 'his' messages as nonsense, I just don't want to watch that right now...I could watch it tomorrow maybe or some other time...don't get upset. The nonsense was the way you inferred that I 'sounded' like him ...what for? What was your point? I don't get it? Is that a good thing or bad thing..it came across like an accusation and therefore a bad thing.

Lol as for the lessons in how to.... etc. you maybe right...I generally call it as I see it. Again don't be upset, you made some good points otherwise. Sorry to hurt your feelings, you seem genuine.

flip side
02-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Firstly, I am not David Kelly so it would be great if you quit talking about that person, it is irrelevent as I have explained. Or alternatively, how do you know that I am not David Kelly? You don't. I'm assuming by your constant reference to him that you would sympathise and agree with everything in the post? But if I'm not him then you wouldn't?? lol, don't be silly. You are in no position to judge. You know nothing about me or at least should know nothing about me as I have only just met you. You have assumed all sorts of things as to my worth as a target without any actual knowledge of who I am, what I've done etc. etc. lol. I could be the most radical, political activist in the world for all you know. I could be saving your ass as we type lol...how would you know dear. I am of course, exaggerating a bit, but needs must. . As I explained your opinion on the whether a target is worth gs'ing or not is completely irrelevent. As I have also explained gangstalking is not a personal thing. It isn't about the target in themselves. They are a means to an end.
Although public activists are attacked with many gangstalking type activities they are in the end not 'actual' targets.

As for evidence, like I said to another poster I don't need to provide you with evidence, it's incredibley arrogant of you to even request I share it with you lol. And, especially if in providing it I would jeopordise my evidence for any legal action I might take. Moreover, if you read the article fully you will understand that this is not something that can be proved to you in the limited space here. And if you were really interested you could easily research the issue for yourself on the net and you would come across a great deal of information and proof. You don't need me to spoonfeed you....right?

As for your comment...'I appreciate the information and I'd expect most of the good people on the DI forum would never dream of taking part in such gangstalking activities. Was that your aim though, to come on here to make sure no-one took part in it? I would have thought the very nature of this forum would be totally against it'

Say what now lol. Do you personally know everyone on the forum. I can assure you that from the short time I have been here I can already see that there is an, 'unsurprisingly' large number of agenda ridden agitators and trolls in here lol. Why wouldn't there be, it's common in every single forum. Your hostile diminishment of this issue and my raising it shows that you aren't even remotely sympathetic to this issue. People who care don't discredit without even getting to know someone. You aren't genuine please move on.

Wow, no need to be so defensive. I asked for some sort of evidence. You provide none. It's nothing personal, I just prefer to see something more solid for such big claims. I'm not trying to dis-credit you 'dear' I'm looking for the truth. And in order to find the truth I ask questions. When someone get's all defensive and heated when asked questions the old alarm bells ring. I'll take my disingenuous self out of this thread.

ps. I think it would be fairly hard for you to be David Kelly :eek:

jimmi
02-11-2009, 09:21 PM
ok peas, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and just assumed you were making a bad attempt at being intellectual but accusing me of editing something out of my post(s) is going too far, From where, and what are you saying I have edited out?

You are coming across as a bit of a troll at the moment.

peace111
02-11-2009, 09:37 PM
ok peas, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and just assumed you were making a bad attempt at being intellectual but accusing me of editing something out of my post(s) is going too far, From where, and what are you saying I have edited out?

You are coming across as a bit of a troll at the moment.

Trolling 'my own' post..are you kidding me....it's you guys that are trying to hound me into silence and immediately chose to discredit. You didn't approach this with an open mind at all and you know it. If you don't like what is being posted in the thread that I started why on earth do you keep posting here...you could easily not experience this anymore if you moved on to another thread that you value. I think you are trolling.

tien an
02-11-2009, 09:50 PM
I didn't dismiss 'his' messages as nonsense, I just don't want to watch that right now...I could watch it tomorrow maybe or some other time...don't get upset. The nonsense was the way you inferred that I 'sounded' like him ...what for? What was your point? I don't get it? Is that a good thing or bad thing..it came across like an accusation and therefore a bad thing.

Lol as for the lessons in how to.... etc. you maybe right...I generally call it as I see it. Again don't be upset, you made some good points otherwise. Sorry to hurt your feelings, you seem genuine.

Apology accepted.

The reason I compare you and the AT is that you both impart strength in your messages. There is strength in knowledge.
I should have expressed myself better.
It was most definitely 'a good thing'.

Genuine? Me? You bet.

tian an.

PS It seems you've attracted your own gangstalking session right here...
PPS You might have more success (in getting your message across), if you let them ask you questions...

jimmi
02-11-2009, 09:50 PM
You haven't told us what I have supposed to have edited out of my post have you?

peace111
02-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Wow, no need to be so defensive. I asked for some sort of evidence. You provide none. It's nothing personal, I just prefer to see something more solid for such big claims. I'm not trying to dis-credit you 'dear' I'm looking for the truth. And in order to find the truth I ask questions. When someone get's all defensive and heated when asked questions the old alarm bells ring. I'll take my disingenuous self out of this thread.

ps. I think it would be fairly hard for you to be David Kelly :eek:

It isn't defensive to respond assertively to constant combative commenting. Since posting this, there has been a steady stream of combative commenting, seemingly intended to discredit without reason. No-one is holding a gun to anyones head, if things resonate then it should be a starting point for you to seek out the truth for yourself and not expect an absolute proof from me when clearly that's not possible, as already explained. I'm not even sure I understand what kind of proof you require. What would actually prove this to you? Which part of it. Would you need proof of every single claim or just some? If crimes were that straightforward to prove then we would hardly need a legal system, police, legislation etc. etc. And just because you don't have clear and absolute proof in the palm of your hand should not deter you from keeping an open mind.

peace111
02-11-2009, 09:58 PM
Apology accepted.

The reason I compare you and the AT is that you both impart strength in your messages. There is strength in knowledge.
I should have expressed myself better.
It was most definitely 'a good thing'.

Genuine? Me? You bet.

tian an.

PS It seems you've attracted your own gangstalking session right here...
PPS You might have more success (in getting your message across), if you let them ask you questions...

They probably are gangstalkers. I had a friend hack a site I frequent, not so long ago..lol as soon as he got some details the place cleared out...too funny.

As for questions, I don't read any. All I am reading is a continuous request for 'proof'. That is act of discrediting. If they had of asked questions and shown more genuine interest that would been more reasonable.

peace111
02-11-2009, 10:01 PM
You haven't told us what I have supposed to have edited out of my post have you?

Lol just lol

jimmi
02-11-2009, 10:04 PM
Outed:D

Lolouder

BYE:D

peace111
02-11-2009, 10:07 PM
Outed:D

Lolouder

BYE:D

You are insane, dear.

jakemaverick
02-11-2009, 10:16 PM
i'm a victim of this...clcik the sig if u want my story!

peace111
02-11-2009, 10:18 PM
i'm a victim of this...clcik the sig if u want my story!

Ok, I will but it's nearly bedtime so apologies if I don't respond tonight.

Edit. Thankyou for posting here. Let me just say that if there is anyone else in this forum who is experiencing this I hope you aren't deterred by the obvious trouble makers in here and post regardless of anyone's opinion.

tien an
02-11-2009, 10:22 PM
They probably are gangstalkers. I had a friend hack a site I frequent, not so long ago..lol as soon as he got some details the place cleared out...too funny.

As for questions, I don't read any. All I am reading is a continuous request for 'proof'. That is act of discrediting. If they had of asked questions and shown more genuine interest that would been more reasonable.

Well...how about a few 'examples' then?

A few months ago, a UK current affairs/documentary program 'Horizon' featured a British journalist in the States interviewing the leader of Scientology.
During the program, the journalist also interviewed a 'witness' to some of the alleged exploits of Scientology. He'd hardly got halfway through the interview, when Scientology members appeared from 'out of the woodwork' and started hanging out the witness' dirty washing...exposing facets of his private life that were largely irrelevant to the subject of the interview, but embarrassing for him nonetheless.
The witness, unsurprisingly, was cowed into silence, apart from telling the journalist that 'they do this kind of thing all the time'.

I have seen other examples of Scientology adherents 'bullying' people (Der Spiegel...about ten years ago), by attacking them from all different angles:
Lawyer threatening a lawsuit, neighbour from down the street (a Scientologist too, it turned out) harassing the same individual for a trivial issue, other Scientologists simply marching into the individual's home and removing film from cameras, taking documents...and then the police were called and started giving the same individual a hard time...all at the same time or within minutes of each other.
This kind of 'treatment' must be stressful for anyone, even those expecting it.

Common Purpose are suspected of the same; making someone's life hell until they either comply or move out. With the funding they have and the overlapping spheres of authority (Council, DWP, Police etc.), they must find it quite easy to do this kind of thing.

There we go...examples along those lines would go a long way to retaining the curiosity of your interlocutors...of course, something a little more concrete from you would probably be expected, since you started the thread.

Without attempting to trivialise in any way what you're saying here, it seems you're writing about sophisticated, organised bullying.
I'm with you all the way in trying to discourage others from participating in this kind of behaviour, but I too need a few 'examples' so that I can 'see' what you're on about.

My fellow forum-dwellers have every right to prod and poke at your assertions.
In fact, I'd find this place pretty boring if they didn't.

(Go easy guys...ask the right questions)

Over to you....

tian an.

zero1
02-11-2009, 10:31 PM
PREDATORY GANGSTALKING

"Predatory Gangstalking is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade all areas of an individual's life on a continuing basis, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B.Ross c 2005

Tactics of Predatory Gangstalking include highly coordinated surveillance (hidden cameras, conversation bugging in private aswell as public), harassment, and psychological, psychosocial, financial, and sometimes physical assaults on an individual by a large group of people who are often strangers to the targeted individual.

A Predatory Gangstalking group is a well-run organization comprised of
members who are unidentified as gangstalkers to the outside world. Until a group of gangstalkers turn their face towards someone selected to be one of their targets, members of society do not realize there is such an invisible group. The practitioners of predatory gangstalking are people who, for the most part, go about their business of daily life appearing like everyone else, except for their activities involved with Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory gangstalking activities take priority over everything else in the lives of Predatory Gangstalkers. Predatory gangstalking is actually a lifestyle for those who participate in it.

Predatory Gangstalking is also called "terror stalking", "gangstalking", "flash mobbing", "cause stalking," "hate stalking," "multi-stalking, "happy slapping," "workplace bullying, and "covert war."

. "Flash mobbing" is an event occurring when a targeted individual is spotted in society. Their photo and location is immediately and simultaneously sent out by cell phone text messages and Internet email to all gangstalkers within a certain radius. All gangstalkers then suddenly descend upon the target as a mob.

. "Cause stalking" refers to gangstalking by single-issue radicals.
They stalk a targeted person related to that specific agenda. "Cause stalking" has been reported to have been carried out by radical Christians who believe in "dominion theology."

Dominion Theology is a religious interpretation of the Bible which these
groups believe requires them to "take dominion over the earth" which they believe is the precursor to the return of Jesus to earth. "Cause stalkers" in general believe that they are bringing about social change through gangstalking activities. "Cause stalking" can be carried out by White Supremacist as a form of "Hate Stalking (Scientology groups are another eg.)." This type of predatory gangstalking is primarily for the purpose of intimidation and often is a precursor to or an adjunct to violence.

. "Happy slapping" refers to group harassment of one youth by other youths carried live over cell phones equipped to handle video to peers youths. The young gangstalkers slap around the targeted youth while laughing at him or her while several other youths broadcast the incident live to as many peers as possible.

. "Ritual Gangstalking" is reportedly performed by cults and secret organizations such as Satanists, secret orders of free masons, some voodoo /obeah practitioners and Scientologists as a means of control or for punishment. "Ritual abuse" is incorporated into "ritual gangstalking" patterns in this case.

N.B. Obeah is considered one of the darkest forms of black magic known. Blood sacrifice is always used and the intent is to harm, even to death, another person.

. "Workplace bullying" involves gangstalking activities tailored to the workplace
which are carried out by a group of employees against another individual employee.

* "Cybergangstalking" is a situation where an individual is identified to be a target through Internet participation and their personal identity is determined. Cybergangstalkers pierce the electronic veil and are able to enter into the real life of a person, creating all forms of harassment, theft, psychological operations including slander and libel, and able to commit crimes against the targeted individual.

* "Vigilante Stalking, Terror Stalking" is the same as Predatory
Stalking.

For the purpose of this informational writing, all activities will be referred to as "predatory gangstalking" because the tactics and characteristics of the gangstalking are the same. And often a targeted person will become the victim of more than one type of gangstalking.


"Predatory Gangstalking" is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade an individual's life on a continuous basis, to an extreme degree, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B. Ross

Predatory Gangstalking is reported by historians to have been originally developed by social scientists and psychologists in communist and fascist's countries as a means of control of individuals within those societies. The tactics and techniques of Predatory Gangstalking were developed through animal and then human experimentation. The methodology of Predatory Gangstalking is precise and well-orchestrated. It is reported that the technical mechanics for Predatory Gangstalking werefirst sold on the Black Market by the ruling party leaders of East Germany when the USSR political systems crumbled. These protocols were subsequently exported to other countries and implemented there against unsuspecting citizens. Predatory
Gangstalking has been reportedly against citizens worldwide. Thus far, it has continued unchecked. One of the reasons for the unchallenged proliferation of this form of organized crime is that it characteristically takes place in such a way that it is invisible to the untrained eye. It is understandably, therefore, considered to be the ‘perfect crime’, as it remains unchallenged and extremely difficult to prove.

The countries with the greatest number of reports are the US, Canada, Germany, and England. In the US, the states with the greatest number of reported predatory gangstalkings are California, Texas, and New York. The predominant proportion of individuals targeted by gangstalkers are non-Caucasians. It is difficult to find other predominant similar characteristics in targets. The reasons that an individual is selected for targeting are unknown. It can only be speculated to include reasons such as easy accessibility to the target, random selection for training for new Predatory Gangstalkers, minority group member relative to hate-based groups, making an example of someone, revenge, retaliation, and social control.

Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians, members of hate groups such as White Supremacists, members of motorcycle and street gangs, and homeless people. They are also often people with a background in the military, including disabled Vets. Higher levels in the Predatory Gangstalking organizations include people in military and law enforcement or with same experience, secret service/defence employees, government officials, Banking firms, and so on. It has been reported that top level government security and intelligence agencies use gangstalking tactics in covert operations. What is most baffling about Predatory Gangstalking is that many of the practitioners of this social pathology appear to be regular mainstream people with no prior criminal record, predominantly in the socio-economic middle class. It is presumed they participate for the money or rewards they receive in the form of barter or for a social-conscience feelgood factor.


The world of Predatory Gangstalking increases as new recruits are initiated into the Predatory Gangstalking process. Therefore, a target may see collusion and participation from neighbors and co- workers who were once on good terms with the target. The circle of predatory gangstalkers widens with time. However, most of the time, the gangstalkers are complete strangers to the target. In most of the encounters the target has with gangstalkers, the target does not recognize the perpetrators but the gangstalkers readily recognize the target. Further, these predatory strangers possess detailed knowledge about the targeted individual. Most often, Predatory Gangstalking is being engaged in by parties unknown, for reasons unknown, to the target. People have died after a lifetime of protracted Predatory Gangstalking without having any explanations as to who was doing this or why this happened to them.

Sometimes, the leaders in these large affiliated groups of gangstalkers have specialized military expertise in the areas of military intelligence, military electronics and equipment, and in military strategic and tactical training. Those without formal military training have often engaged in paramilitary activities or have technical skills commonly found in successful career criminals. Others who join a Predatory Gangstalking group without such a background are given on-the-job training, in addition to other gangstalking skills. It can be said with certainty that there are specific protocols and tactics and most gangstalkers appear to be proficient in a similar set of skills.

Predatory Gangstalkers each have their own individual skill that they contribute towards their common goal in the group. One person in a group knows how to pick locks; another knows how to hack into computers, while someone else provides the GPS and electronic equipment. Many Predatory Gangstalking members know how to tamper with a vehicle. Some predatory gangstalkers are practiced "look outs" while others are group leaders. Predatory gangstalking groups have their rank and file as in any other organization. Orders come from the top, just as in any other organization. However, it is unknown whether the top of the organizations are local, regional, national, or international.

Predatory Gangstalkers use state-of-the-art technology coupled with law-enforcement- style surveillance tactics. Typically, the individual gangstalkers are strangers to the target. ("Happy slapping" and "workplace bullying" are the most common exceptions) Participants in predatory gangstalking are well-trained. The tactics and techniques they use are similar all around the world in the numerous countries where this has been reported. Each group of predatory gangstalkers is a covert army unto themselves. They have incorporated specialized techniques originally used by spies during the cold war. They carry out their field work with military style precision. Then, they go about their daily lives, just like any other member of society, in most cases. Their gangstalking skills are highly sophisticated, and their commitment to Predatory Gangstalking exceeds zealousness. It appears to both an observer and a target that nothing required of them in terms of time or availability is too much trouble for them. As stated previously, but worth
repeating, predatory gangstalking activities take priority in the lives of those who practice Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory Gangstalkers are a functioning subculture of society that move invisibly through society as such. This is by design, making it even more dangerous to society.


The goals of Predatory Gangstalking of an individual are numerous. Predatory
Gangstalking is intended to deprive someone of their freedoms and rights. It destroys a person's privacy and control of their own environments. It is intended to create distress, disrupt all relationships, deplete person's resources, destroy one's physical and mental health, and inflict great overall long term suffering. They interfere with a target's sleep thereby producing chronic sleep deprivation, as a strategic tactic. They employ a variety of interactions with the targeted individual which are likely to produce accidents and various forms of illness. One of the main weapons they use for their own protection and to enable their success in gangstalking is to manipulate the target's life in such a way as to cause them to lose their credibility with others. This is usually the first objective reached. After that, gangstalking the target involves only minor risk. Notably, people who become involved generally stop caring about the abuse by either turning a blind eye or actively joining in. While others, though concerned for the target, become too frightened to speak out or come to believe the propoganda that the target is mentally ill and needs ‘this‘ help.

Predatory Gangstalking also involves provoking "accidents" and consequences of harm to the target. Predatory Gangstalkers will surrounding a target's moving vehicle and attempting to force them off of the road when they are stressed and exhausted.

Worse, these tactics will be employed after tampering with a targeted individual's vehicle. Predatory Gangstalking is very serious business. Predatory Gangstalking is, at the least, psychological violence, and at most, it is a protracted sadistic sociopathic domination and calculated destruction of an innocent human being for reasons of pleasure, power, and social control by a group predatory stranger.

It is rightfully assumed that money is involved in Predatory Gangstalking
because of the amount of resources required to execute such extensive efforts. The gangstalkers develop capabilities directly proportionate to the amount money that funds them. In following the money trail speculatively, one looks to the possibility that drug money is involved. Some people reason that the government may be involved because of the amount of resources that are available to the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking. Other individual situations seem to indicate that corporations, insurance companies, and even wealthy individuals with revenge motives fund a Predatory Gangstalking.

In addition to cash payment for participation in Predatory Gangstalking, other forms of barter are used. These include drugs, *, alcohol, reciprocal favors, release from debts, jobs, contracts,"deals" for legal problems, and other forms of compensation. Some gangstalkers are given free housing in exchange for performing Predatory Gangstalking activities against a nearby target. However, it is clear from observing Predatory Gangstalkers in action that many engage in it for pleasure. One high ranking leader in Predatory Gangstalking stated that it was like an addiction. He described how the build up and culmination of a gangstalking assault was intoxicating, but that there was a let-down feeling afterwards that compelled him to do it again, and the cycle continued.


It is also true that some people participate in Predatory Gangstalking because they are deceived into participating. Friends, neighbors and associates of a selected target are given false information and finally come to believe the targeted individual has committed a heinous crime for which they deserve what is portrayed them to be rehabilitative social intervention. Sometimes people reluctantly participate in indirect ways, such as making their homes available at times for part of the operation, for fear of consequences if they did not. Others involved in Predatory Gangstalking, including the homeless, do so for money or drugs. Disabled Vets are known to participate in Predatory Gangstalking activities for alleged government or defense contractor's projects. Predatory Gangstalkers have successfully elicited the participation of neighbors by appealing to their sense of service to the community or government, often representing themselves as affiliates
of the government or law enforcement. Lastly, those who are in the underworld or secret organizations practice Predatory Gangstalking as part of their membership duties.

The craft and practice of Predatory Gangstalking appears to be standardized around the world. Many similarities parallel incidents reported by targets internationally. It appears that there is a standard protocol involving a series of tactics, progressive phases, and nature of assaults. It appears that an individual has been selected to become a target and the groundwork has been established for their assaults long before the individual can be aware that something criminal is occurring in their lives and to their person. Predatory Gangstalkers achieve this strategically. By the time the targeted individual becomes aware that something very threatening and disturbing is happening to them, they have already been thoroughly investigated by their enemies, stigmatized, discredited, and compromised. All wells have been already poisoned, so to speak, and all avenues of help and escape have been blocked.

Predatory Gangstalkers first establish "information dominance" over a targeted individual. This achievement alone enables them to attain excessive power over the targeted individual. It is believed that this is accomplished by means of eavesdropping devices in the target's environment, global positioning technology (GPS) secreted on their vehicles, obtaining illegal access to all of a targeted individual's personal records such banks accounts, emails, medical records, and credit card purchases. They are often able to achieve 100% surveillance of a targeted individual and almost 100% access to a targeted individual's entire lifetime of available information from any computer, paper, photographic, or personal source. They use all of the information obtained to ambush and sabotage a targeted individual. Predatory Gangstalkers ultimately become capable of entering a target's house, place of employment, and vehicle at-will and often. All forms of communications in the targeted individual's life is interfered with by the gangstalkers. They will intercept email, tamper with voicemail, and obstruct the delivery of postal mail. The net result is that all communication in a targeted individual's life
will become unreliable and incomplete, both incoming and outgoing. The Predatory Gangstalkers are then capable of greater insidious manipulation and control.


Predatory Gangstalkers constantly update information about a target. Updates are promptly shared with all of the participants in that predatory gangstalking group. They take frequent photographs of the targeted individual, and maintain photos of the target's house, vehicle, place of employment, family, friends, and even the target's pets. They promptly disseminate this information through email and cell phones to other gangstalkers. This is the means by which a targeted individual is continually recognized by Predatory Gangstalkers everywhere they go. The Predatory Gangstalkers sadistically prefer to maintain a file of photos taken at points in time when the victimization reaches peaks, such as when a target is reaping consequences brought about by the gangstalkers, such as upon a targeted individual's firing, eviction, or when the person emotionally breaks down, or when they appear disheveled from insomnia or is fearful.

Psychological profiling is yet another tactic performed on a targeted individual for the purpose of finding weaknesses. They exploit all information obtained, including fears, triggers, value-conflicts, skeletons in the closet, areas of shame, addictions, vices, and all things they hold dear. They often successfully "interview" a target under various guises. They use the information obtained to maximize the Predatory Gangstalkers' ability to destroy the targeted individual.

Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking have their own coded language, both
verbal and visual. Each targeted individual is referred to by an assigned code word. Hand signals are an important tool of their universal protocol. Some hand signals resemble the mannerisms used in baseball and other sports. Other signals are those found in law enforcement and the military. They use hand signals to identify the area of a target's body designated to be the target of a pending physical attack. This is often the eyes and the heart. They also use hand signals to coordinate the unauthorized entry into a target's home or vehicle. They also use hand signals during roving vehicle caravans and while on foot, for the purpose of coordinating attacks and pointing out the location of a target. Vehicle alarm panic buttons and horns are other commonly used tools of communication and coordination. In residential areas, outside lights have an established set of messages. They also use "dead drops" like spies have done historically to secretly pass along information to one another. Public bathrooms are commonly utilized as locations for the transfer of information and equipment. Mobile pick-up and delivery systems are in place for this purpose as well. They have a set of questions and responses to confirm the identity of a predatory gangstalker to another which are also coded. In the USA they refer to money by the last names of the president whose face is on the bill. Someone may say "I have references. (translation: money). I know 5 of the Franklin's." Their coded language is universal to them.

Predatory Gangstalkers will begin an intense and extensive discrediting campaign against a selected target well before the target could even suspect he or she has an enemy. This critical tactic sets the stage for neighbors and associates to become alienated from the target. One of the Predatory Gangstalkers' goals is to eliminate all forms of support and assistance for the target. Towards this objective, the police are given anonymous "concerned citizen" tips designed to lead the police to believe the target is mentally unstable or a problem in the community in advance of any actual direct gangstalking of the targeted individual. This sets the stage for having the targeted individual prejudged so they will be disbelieved and dismissed when the gangstalking begins and they seek help. The discrediting campaign includes accusing the target of being an "undesirable" for any number of reasons, including fabricated reports of having committed crimes that are the most repulsive to members of society. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking even go so far as to represent themselves as undercover law enforcement or government agents. It has been reported that they will even show false documents for substantiation, but they will never leave them behind.

Financial devastation is another goal of Predatory Gangstalking. Towards this goal, they make attempts to destroy one's gainful employment, pose as offering services to intervene in the problem to further take your money, and will steal funds and personal property on an on-going basis. Repeated unauthorized entries into a target's residence, vehicles, computer, and workplace are hallmark tactics of this crime and is nearly impossible to stop. Predatory Gangstalkers can pick locks, bypass security alarms, and enter any location posing as utility crews, law enforcement, or delivery men. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking will apply for and obtain legitimate jobs in a target's home or business in order to have access to the target and their life, relationships, and assets just to do harm.


Predatory Gangstalking employs a tactic of syncronicity. This tactic involves the precise timing of interactions with the targeted individual. For example, the target can go out to get the morning newspaper and encounter gangstalking activities that suddenly appear and which are precisely synchronized. Throughout the targeted individual's day, these synchronized encounters repeatedly occur. Activities such as leaving one's driveway,
taking out the trash, going to a store, or even walking the dog, are activities which result in an encounter with one or more Predatory Gangstalkers. Even when a target strategically does not follow any set routine, these synchronized occurrences continue.

This makes the gangstalkers appear to be all- knowing and almost omnipresent in the mind of a new targeted individual. This is intimidating, demoralizing, and even terrorizing to targets. It is often unavoidable.

In the case of primary targeted individuals of gangstalking (the rare individuals who are the priority target of global gangstalking) the primary objective is to induce as much fear as possible and over time as the numbers of individuals that become involved or are made aware of a target, the abuse can increase substantially, so that there is no aspect of the targets life that is private or sacred. Rarely, if ever, does a targeted individual engage in an activity of daily living without the unwanted participation of Predatory Gangstalkers. The timing and coordination of these activities are remarkably precise. The targeted individual becomes aware that all of their activities include the presence of Predatory Gangstalkers. These gangstalkers demand to be noticed by their target, and if they are not, they will take an action to be noticed. This could include honking their horn strategically, making a comment, creating a scenario to get the attention of the targeted individual. Once noticed, they will return to non-contact, knowing that by that point, the targeted individual will henceforth anxiously watch for them.

Most times, however, these practitioners of gangstalking maintain the appearance of "business as usual." They rarely make direct contact, with some exception. However, these strangers often boldly smirk and openly laugh at the targeted individual at some close point in the encounter. This is the universal exception to the "no direct contact" protocol. Other times, when verbal or physical contact is made, these encounters are conducted in such a way as to appear to have been "happenstance."

Since most of the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking rotate in and out of the life of a target, the same patterns of gangstalking will occur, but it will involve different people all the time. Therefore, many different stranger and many different vehicles will walk, drive, or bike past the target and interact in some manner, at various times and locations. All of the predatory gangstalkers will be strangers to the targeted individual and they
will continue to make their presence, but not their purpose, known. This is one element of Predatory Gangstalking that is disbelieved by others. These "others" include law enforcement, the medical profession, and family. Those who are unaware of activities of subcultures such as criminals, secret organizations, clubs, extremist groups, radical political groups, hate groups, organized crime groups, and other antisocial groups, the scope of attack by Predatory Gangstalkers is unfathomable. Never the less, the extent of this massive assault on one individual is as extensive as described here and even more so.

Let it be said that we really do live in amazing times. The world itself has seen much change and turmoil even in the last century, and with the increase of technology, the desire in those who choose to live out of balance with life and try to live in dominance and control of the masses have opted for this horrendous path of ‘stolen power’. This may sound quite vague, and it is, only because the other face of ganstalking or rather the precise reason for its use deals with a more incredible phenomena than hasn't been touched up yet. In the first instance, we mustn't be so naïve as to assume that our governments and all those that have been granted the power and authority to run our world are acting from a selfless perspective. They simply are not. The secrets of the universe, God and true power have always been the Holy Grail of man, and the desperate desire to achieve and own them by some.

To this effect the studies and research that has been conducted since time immemorial have been immense, with the one of the holiest of holiest being the understanding of the human mind, soul and will and how these can be controlled and used far more readily than man has been able to achieve so far. And it is for these reasons that extensive and more covert experimentation has been undertaken on people targeted for this work. These people are the targetted individuals of gangstalking.

Our minds are complex structures, our memories (long and short term), our thought processes, our fears and so on. If it is true that we do indeed manifest what we think as countless experts have us believe and that spiritually we are indeed one soul fragmented but unequivocally connected in a unified field, then it stands to reason that if one or a few souls and minds can be controlled then this will lead to the occupation of ALL. This of course sounds like insane rantings but assuredly this is the reality humanity faces today. There is a dark agenda to control all minds by controlling the energetic fields of existence, our physical bodies, dna, etheric fields, mental and emotional fields and so on.

Next, imagine for a moment if a ‘Lucifer’ were also created from one of the targeted individuals, more than just the social pariah they started as, what if society is lead to believe that they are actually a satanic entity or individual. In doing so, a common enemy is created with which to blame all eventual chaos upon. This is another portion of the agenda.

It is in the end the stuff of nightmares and what has been called dark prophecy or conspiracy theory is actually ancient agenda in it’s final stages of being played out.

On a personal level, participating in any form of gangstalking is not only insane but utterly immoral, and spiritually and ciminally corrupt. If you care, choose never to participate, inform the target (carefully/secretly), make a united stand with friends and neighbours not participate and log all the evidence you can - takedown all information you can. Be smart, technology and the capability of those that have orchestrated these world terrors are immense.

But most of all remember that the 'fear matrix' within the collective consciousness of humanity is an overall target. If people are afraid they can be controlled. Stand firm in a belief of your divinity and eternal being (whether you believe in a God or not) you are still part Omnipotent Grace experiencing on earth.

Peace be with us all.

Thanks for that; it was worth the lengthy read.

zero1
02-11-2009, 10:34 PM
Is anyone in this forum experiencing this type of abuse?

Would it be wise to say if you think you are experiencing this form of criminal abuse? Wouldn't that give the gang-stalkers another weapon to use against you - another fear revealed, another point of mental ill-health to accuse you behind your back of...

peace111
02-11-2009, 10:39 PM
Well...how about a few 'examples' then?

A few months ago, a UK current affairs/documentary program 'Horizon' featured a British journalist in the States interviewing the leader of Scientology.
During the program, the journalist also interviewed a 'witness' to some of the alleged exploits of Scientology. He'd hardly got halfway through the interview, when Scientology members appeared from 'out of the woodwork' and started hanging out the witness' dirty washing...exposing facets of his private life that were largely irrelevant to the subject of the interview, but embarrassing for him nonetheless.
The witness, unsurprisingly, was cowed into silence, apart from telling the journalist that 'they do this kind of thing all the time'.

I have seen other examples of Scientology adherents 'bullying' people (Der Spiegel...about ten years ago), by attacking them from all different angles:
Lawyer threatening a lawsuit, neighbour from down the street (a Scientologist too, it turned out) harassing the same individual for a trivial issue, other Scientologists simply marching into the individual's home and removing film from cameras, taking documents...and then the police were called and started giving the same individual a hard time...all at the same time or within minutes of each other.
This kind of 'treatment' must be stressful for anyone, even those expecting it.

Common Purpose are suspected of the same; making someone's life hell until they either comply or move out. With the funding they have and the overlapping spheres of authority (Council, DWP, Police etc.), they must find it quite easy to do this kind of thing.

There we go...examples along those lines would go a long way to retaining the curiosity of your interlocutors...of course, something a little more concrete from you would probably be expected, since you started the thread.

Without attempting to trivialise in any way what you're saying here, it seems you're writing about sophisticated, organised bullying.
I'm with you all the way in trying to discourage others from participating in this kind of behaviour, but I too need a few 'examples' so that I can 'see' what you're on about.

My fellow forum-dwellers have every right to prod and poke at your assertions.
In fact, I'd find this place pretty boring if they didn't.

(Go easy guys...ask the right questions)

Over to you....

tian an.

lol...ok last one for tonight. Requesting examples is much like asking for proof, though. And your examples of scientology related incidents are very good examples of gangstalking.

If you want more of the same you only need to google the subject and you will find a mountain of similar examples.

You also said that you saw gangstalking in action, what more proof do you require when you've witnessed it first hand?

And lastly, allthough my issue is not scientology related, as far as I am aware, this organisation is sited as having deep roots in gangstalking and with gs techniques. That said, I prefer not to focus on scientology as this is often sited in these discussions and again detracts from the issue by making it seem as though scientologists are behind this. On another forum I attended sometime back, there were a number of well known gs agitators who's sole purpose was to convince targets and sympathisers that gs was orchestrated by scientolgists. It became quite comical and sad.

peace111
02-11-2009, 10:45 PM
Would it be wise to say if you think you are experiencing this form of criminal abuse? Wouldn't that give the gang-stalkers another weapon to use against you - another fear revealed, another point of mental ill-health to accuse you behind your back of...

Are you trying to encourage ppl to stay silent? You sound very much like you are.

If someone is going through this then the gsers already know them so declaring it would not be news to anyone except another genuine target and potential allie. Lol as for revealing fears and mental health accusations, any genuine targets would be well accustomed to this nonsense and if like me are seasoned targets ...would actually find it hilarious that these lunatics think they are sane. Have you seen the movie 'Idiocracy'.

tien an
02-11-2009, 11:03 PM
lol...ok last one for tonight. Requesting examples is much like asking for proof, though. And your examples of scientology related incidents are very good examples of gangstalking.

If you want more of the same you only need to google the subject and you will find a mountain of similar examples.

So why didn't you save everyone's time tonight and just write "Google it" after your post?


You also said that you saw gangstalking in action, what more proof do you require when you've witnessed it first hand?

Did I? I thought I mentioned reading about it in Der Spiegel...



And lastly, allthough my issue is not scientology related, as far as I am aware, this organisation is sited as having deep roots in gangstalking and with gs techniques. That said, I prefer not to focus on scientology as this is often sited in these discussions and again detracts from the issue by making it seem as though scientologists are behind this. On another forum I attended sometime back, there were a number of well known gs agitators who's sole purpose was to convince targets and sympathisers that gs was orchestrated by scientolgists. It became quite comical and sad.

OK, so scientologists have this as a central part of their MO...I didn't mean to push them to the front...as it were. They were the only examples I could think of.
Do you want discussion at all, peace111?
It seems to me that you've sneered at almost everyone who has commented.
Either we don't size up in your opinion...apart from making everyone aware of this issue (well done), what is your motive?

I've even tried to play 'devil's advocate' (not the right expression, I know, but it'll do for now), and help you along a bit...and still you manage to come across as if you're spoiling for a fight!

Do you start trouble in bars?
What are you like after a few beers FFS?

tian an.

tien an
02-11-2009, 11:05 PM
peace111, what are your views on Common Purpose?


tian an.

zero1
02-11-2009, 11:09 PM
Are you trying to encourage ppl to stay silent? You sound very much like you are. If someone is going through this then the gsers already know them so declaring it would not be news to anyone except another genuine target and potential allie. Lol as for revealing fears and mental health accusations, any genuine targets would be well accustomed to this nonsense and if like me are seasoned targets ...would actually find it hilarious that these lunatics think they are sane. Have you seen the movie 'Idiocracy'.

I have seen the movie. I would not encourage anyone to stay silent. This is a very sinister topic, I've said all I want to say about it now; thanks for the correspondence.

peace111
02-11-2009, 11:14 PM
So why didn't you save everyone's time tonight and just write "Google it" after your post?



Did I? I thought I mentioned reading about it in Der Spiegel...




OK, so scientologists have this as a central part of their MO...I didn't mean to push them to the front...as it were. They were the only examples I could think of.
Do you want discussion at all, peace111?
It seems to me that you've sneered at almost everyone who has commented.
Either we don't size up in your opinion...apart from making everyone aware of this issue (well done), what is your motive?

I've even tried to play 'devil's advocate' (not the right expression, I know, but it'll do for now), and help you along a bit...and still you manage to come across as if you're spoiling for a fight!

Do you start trouble in bars?
What are you like after a few beers FFS?

tian an.

I don't drink. Once in a blue moon I might sip port or something. Generally alcohol tastes bad to me. You are being personal and rude now. Stay on topic please.

I like genuine discussion. I think it's unfair for you to generalise all my responses as sneering to the incredible number of the posts this attracted. I wasn't approached empathetically, politely or even positively in most cases. There was a lot of combatitive commenting, which I didn't deserve.

tien an
02-11-2009, 11:32 PM
I don't drink. Once in a blue moon I might sip port or something. Generally alcohol tastes bad to me. You are being personal and rude now. Stay on topic please.

I like genuine discussion. I think it's unfair for you to generalise all my responses as sneering to the incredible number of the posts this attracted. I wasn't approached empathetically, politely or even positively in most cases. There was a lot of combatitive commenting, which I didn't deserve.



I didn't generalise all your responses...I wrote "It seems to me that you've sneered at almost everyone who has commented."
"Seems to me" leaves room for my own error.
"Almost everyone" means 'almost everyone', not 'all'.


Me being rude?
Your technique of turning things around is completely wasted on me (I've seen it too many times)...and that's the second time you've tried it on with me.
First you insinuate that I'm getting 'upset', now you're saying I'm being rude.
In fact, YOU have displayed both, several times, in this thread.

I offer you discussion and you bring up the fact that some have been unsympathetic to you tonight.

What's the problem?

You're pretty good at NLP, but I see right through that too...
I wasn't getting personal.

Are you from the UK?
It's quite common to be asked what you're like with a drink in you (as opposed to your sober, sympathetic, self as you are tonight) if your responses are somewhat abrasive. It's called sarcasm...and light-hearted at that.
As it is, I'm feeling slightly queasy because of the amount of slack I'm cutting you...Even for me I'm going a bit far in pandering to your behaviour.
As for staying on topic...it's only because the topic is so interesting that I'm here at all.

Either you have a massive chip on your shoulder (issue), or you have a separate agenda to be getting on with...which is it?

tian an.

PS peace111, what are your views on Common Purpose?

ozpixie
02-11-2009, 11:49 PM
Here in Australia we had a politician called Pauline Hanson who I think might have been a victim of this type of thing. At one time she had a phenomenal support and was a real threat to both major parties. I never connected with her policies or values but I did feel sorry for her in the way she was constantly targeted and vilified. She was criticised for her policies, her parenting, her financial and marital status, dress sense, use of electoral funds, she want to jail and was then found not guilty, she was constantly followed etc. One major MP admitted setting her up. Pauline finally quit politics after defeat at the last Queensland election when someone purporting to be a boyfriend from 30 years ago published a series of porno pix that ultimately were proven to be from a European magazine.

tien an
02-11-2009, 11:52 PM
Here in Australia we had a politician called Pauline Hanson who I think might have been a victim of this type of thing. At one time she had a phenomenal support and was a real threat to both major parties. I never connected with her policies or values but I did feel sorry for her in the way she was constantly targeted and vilified. She was criticised for her policies, her parenting, her financial and marital status, dress sense, use of electoral funds, she want to jail and was then found not guilty, she was constantly followed etc. One major MP admitted setting her up. Pauline finally quit politics after defeat at the last Queensland election when someone purporting to be a boyfriend from 30 years ago published a series of porno pix that ultimately were proven to be from a European magazine.

I think I heard about her...was she the right-wing politician?

I didn't know that happened to her though.

This is definitely a trait of the Western World...or is it the human race?

tian an.

whiterain
03-11-2009, 12:57 AM
Would it be wise to say if you think you are experiencing this form of criminal abuse? Wouldn't that give the gang-stalkers another weapon to use against you - another fear revealed, another point of mental ill-health to accuse you behind your back of...

what in a kind of 'that guys so ill he thinks im going round telling people how ill he is' way?! :)

dont suffer in silence, their only weapon is fear

peace111
03-11-2009, 08:02 AM
I didn't generalise all your responses...I wrote "It seems to me that you've sneered at almost everyone who has commented."
"Seems to me" leaves room for my own error.
"Almost everyone" means 'almost everyone', not 'all'.


Me being rude?
Your technique of turning things around is completely wasted on me (I've seen it too many times)...and that's the second time you've tried it on with me.
First you insinuate that I'm getting 'upset', now you're saying I'm being rude.
In fact, YOU have displayed both, several times, in this thread.

I offer you discussion and you bring up the fact that some have been unsympathetic to you tonight.

What's the problem?

You're pretty good at NLP, but I see right through that too...
I wasn't getting personal.

Are you from the UK?
It's quite common to be asked what you're like with a drink in you (as opposed to your sober, sympathetic, self as you are tonight) if your responses are somewhat abrasive. It's called sarcasm...and light-hearted at that.
As it is, I'm feeling slightly queasy because of the amount of slack I'm cutting you...Even for me I'm going a bit far in pandering to your behaviour.
As for staying on topic...it's only because the topic is so interesting that I'm here at all.

Either you have a massive chip on your shoulder (issue), or you have a separate agenda to be getting on with...which is it?

tian an.

PS peace111, what are your views on Common Purpose?

NLP lol ...what are you talking about. I don't practice that dear please stop insinuating and calm down.

If this thread is upsetting you as much as your response here indicates I honestly think you should not take further part. I didn't intend this to be a 'fight' I merely posted something for personal discernment.

But the 'expected' and usual combatative, insinuating and inciting comments were directed at me so I responded as the thread starter and as is my right.

I too have been around long enough to recognise trademark nonsense, whether it comes from actual agitators or silly trolls, it makes no difference.

In the end though I actually don't see any merit in this conversation, with you or anyone like you, and I'm certain it isn't beneficial to either of our well being to back and forth without actually, really, addressing the topic properly. Infact it only serves to diminish the actual original post and distract attention from a serious issue. So I ask, PEACEABLEY, for you to not continue to badger me. I have no proof, examples or opinions for you, at least none that I care to share anymore.

I have no view on 'common purpose' (whatever that is referring to) so I can't feed you there either.

peace111
03-11-2009, 08:13 AM
what in a kind of 'that guys so ill he thinks im going round telling people how ill he is' way?! :)

dont suffer in silence, their only weapon is fear

lol

In my case it 'sometimes' goes along the lines of 'we believe she took drugs and that made her crazy and paranoid to the point she thinks we go around abusing her civil rights etc. warning people ahead of time to be wary of her and all the weird stuff she does and believes. We don't 'go around' doing this - er hmm even though we are warning you we aren't actually warning you though. Er hmm... now careful try not to get sucked into her web, she'll use you and discard you, just a friendly heads up because it's our civil duty to protect you from people like her...this isn't a way of trying to prevent you forming any relationship with her though and it isn't a warning..er just looking out for you...did we say we think she's dangerous' blah blah lol blah.

of course the story changes according to the audience and what it would take to convince them.

tien an
03-11-2009, 08:20 AM
lol

In my case it 'sometimes' goes along the lines of 'we believe she took drugs and that made her crazy and paranoid to the point she thinks we go around abusing her civil rights etc. warning people ahead of time to be wary of her and all the weird stuff she does and believes. We don't 'go around' doing this - er hmm even though we are warning you we aren't actually warning you though. Er hmm... now careful try not to get sucked into her web, she'll use you and discard you, just a friendly heads up because it's our civil duty to protect you from people like her...this isn't a way of trying to prevent you forming any relationship with her though and it isn't a warning..er just looking out for you...did we say we think she's dangerous' blah blah lol blah.

of course the story changes according to the audience and what it would take to convince them.

A short conversation with you would seem to suffice...I did try to engage in discussion with you though...

Heavenly Peace,

tian an.

PS This (http://www.commonpurpose.org/programmes.aspx) is Common Purpose.

peace111
03-11-2009, 08:41 AM
Here in Australia we had a politician called Pauline Hanson who I think might have been a victim of this type of thing. At one time she had a phenomenal support and was a real threat to both major parties. I never connected with her policies or values but I did feel sorry for her in the way she was constantly targeted and vilified. She was criticised for her policies, her parenting, her financial and marital status, dress sense, use of electoral funds, she want to jail and was then found not guilty, she was constantly followed etc. One major MP admitted setting her up. Pauline finally quit politics after defeat at the last Queensland election when someone purporting to be a boyfriend from 30 years ago published a series of porno pix that ultimately were proven to be from a European magazine.

Propoganda campaigns are used all the time and not just in this issue. Although for gangstalking it's a perfect weapon. The best way to ruin someone is to discredit them completely and ruin their reputation so that no-one, or very few, will support or even listen to them, let alone form any kind of 'genuine' unbiased friendship with them. People become embroilled without even realising it. They are given negative information about a person, are told to keep it secret from that person, and then can't help but act unnaturally biased towards them. Some may not be consciously trying to participate but they nevertheless are. It's also very easy to do this, to absolutely anyone, if the desire, power and resources are in place. People, simply, love to gossip and judge each other and gossip some more. It's the rare individual that doesn't.

peace111
03-11-2009, 09:24 AM
A short conversation with you would seem to suffice...I did try to engage in discussion with you though...

Heavenly Peace,

tian an.

PS This (http://www.commonpurpose.org/programmes.aspx) is Common Purpose.

This discussion/ discussion in general/ what is discussion/ were you asking my opinion on those. Lol why is that important..it's nothing to do with the topic.

As for your nasty comment above....that's a cheap shot

peace111
03-11-2009, 09:46 AM
The original post was basically intended for:

1) For those whom it resonates with, if it does not, then there is no reason to stay with this thread.

2) To encourage genuine targets to speak up and connect with others who maybe experiencing the same thing or similar things.

3) To bring comfort and understanding to others who are experiencing similar things or know others who are.

4) To offer explanations for some of the negative experiences that targets have.

5) To highlight the issue to the general public, in the same way that all issues are raised. Awareness is power. Often crimes go unchecked because no-one speaks up.

6) For those that are not currently affected by gangstalking and it's related issues, it is for personal discernment and awareness raising.

It was with good intention and not for argument.

tien an
03-11-2009, 10:00 AM
This discussion/ discussion in general/ what is discussion/ were you asking my opinion on those. Lol why is that important..it's nothing to do with the topic.

As for your nasty comment above....that's a cheap shot

You seem to think it's nothing to do with the topic, but a cursory look at that site will show you that it has everything to do with the topic. It's Government sanctioned organised gangstalking, right here in the UK (and in some other countries in Europe).

My 'nasty' comment could have been worded differently, but it's true nonetheless.
Unlike some of the posters on the first half of this thread, I tried to engage in discussion with you.
I stuck up for you.
I made suggestions.
I offered similar subjects for discussion and comparison, trying to pin down a recognisable pattern.

Your thinly-veiled derision of comments that don't fit exactly what you think, is what is attracting the negativity that you're experiencing, 'Cheap' is accusing others of your own behaviour, ie rudeness, telling me to 'calm down' and 'remain on topic'. I don't think you wanted to discuss this from the outset. You've side-stepped almost every opportunity to discuss the subject in favour of deriding others' comments.

I don't know why you do this, but I suspect that you're a victim of gangstalking yourself.
I know very little about the subject, but am interested to find out.

Now, do you want to discuss this, or carry on attracting negativity to yourself (and spreading it around others)?

Over to you....

tian an.

tien an
03-11-2009, 10:12 AM
The original post was basically intended for:

1) For those whom it resonates with, if it does not, then there is no reason to stay with this thread.

2) To encourage genuine targets to speak up and connect with others who maybe experiencing the same thing or similar things.

3) To bring comfort and understanding to others who are experiencing similar things or know others who are.

4) To offer explanations for some of the negative experiences that targets have.

5) To highlight the issue to the general public, in the same way that all issues are raised. Awareness is power. Often crimes go unchecked because no-one speaks up.

6) For those that are not currently affected by gangstalking and it's related issues, it is for personal discernment and awareness raising.

It was with good intention and not for argument.

You posted this as I was typing my above post.
We seem to have the same goals, although we're not on the same wavelength...

1. It obviously resonates with me; otherwise I wouldn't be doing this.
2. I'm not a target (I guess I'd know if I were), but can empathise with those who are, and wouldn't mind hearing from them...
3. As above.
4. I've been trying to do that (reference to Common Purpose). It's my opinion that the OP's subject runs deeper than personal attacks...I think it's the undermining of the very fabric of our society...and they're doing a pretty good job so far.
5. Awareness is power. I concur: The more people are aware of this kind of behaviour, the fewer will become victims.
It is important to be aware of this kind of behaviour because it is (unfortunately) a human trait and one can very quickly find themselves engaged in it without necessarily realising it.
That said, the opposite is true: It is also my opinion that certain behaviour can attract this.
(OP, that was not a personal attack).

tian an.

tien an
03-11-2009, 01:08 PM
Shameless bump...this is a good thread and important too.


tian an.

whiterain
03-11-2009, 02:51 PM
lol

In my case it 'sometimes' goes along the lines of 'we believe she took drugs and that made her crazy and paranoid to the point she thinks we go around abusing her civil rights etc. warning people ahead of time to be wary of her and all the weird stuff she does and believes. We don't 'go around' doing this - er hmm even though we are warning you we aren't actually warning you though. Er hmm... now careful try not to get sucked into her web, she'll use you and discard you, just a friendly heads up because it's our civil duty to protect you from people like her...this isn't a way of trying to prevent you forming any relationship with her though and it isn't a warning..er just looking out for you...did we say we think she's dangerous' blah blah lol blah.

of course the story changes according to the audience and what it would take to convince them.

sorry to hear that. the very fact that your here fighting against this is hopefully proof they arent getting to you too much

jakemaverick
03-11-2009, 03:30 PM
peace

dude, u sent me a pm! but i can't reply as you have the option switched off or you are banned from receiving....

JM

dynamicwiseman
03-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Excellent topic, we need more people to come forward with their stories. It's not fun being a T.I.

The term TI is used to refer to individuals that are selected for harassment. DEW weapons are pointed at major organs of the body (they can see you even through solid walls), and heated up, just like a microwave oven would heat up your food. Of course the target can be killed in an instance if the power on the DEW is turned up to full. But that is not the goal the perps wish to seek, they however, want to induce harassment by invading the TI's life. The goal is to induce slow death, and make the end seem natural. Making the person feel surrounded "boxed in" while perps pass you in the street mutter offensive language and divulge private information that only you would know. This is the nature of TI harassment, they will go to any lengths just to get some pain from you. They enjoy harassing you, as they believe what they are doing is good for society, get rid of the people exposing information that could hurt the system. Whistleblowers are targeted becuase they wish to share information that is case sensitive to the state, hence they must be silenced. Some researchers have come to the conclusion that the type of person that gets recruited into these organizations are linked to the occult, the brain mentality of the perps are thus governed by the occult.

I believe the term is DEW where a modified microwave weapon would be used to effect the health of a TI (targeted individual) in their own homes. Remote viewing is used by perps to find the IT, enabling the perp to see the IT even beyond solid walls. People in Southampton are walking around in a daze becuase society has chosen to ignore the simple truth. Perps trained by the intelligence services are getting rid of people the state finds at odds with their plan.

You can tune the frequency of microwave weapons to effect the brain synaptic pathways. I have witness for myself here in Southampton an increase in the number of "mobile phone" transmission towers sending out frequencies that clearly effect the brain and put you in a negative mood. London has more sophisticated technology where whole council flat towers have microwave weapons installed, hence the increase in uncontrollable teens acting mad, spikes in teen violence kids as young as 12 knifing grown men.

Mind control is the result of modified electronic weapons used on people to influence their behavior, by tuning into the brain frequencies. a study was done in the late 60's by Russian scientist and later by the tavistock institute here in Britain, the effects of mind control. They found countless frequencies of the brain linked to behavior, moods ect. Now imagine what they have been doing for the last 45 years in terms of microwave/electronic harassment. I have taken myself frequencies sensors close to those "mobile phone" transmission towers. The reading feed back are in the high end or close to negative brain emotions frequencies. I have seen this for myself and observed how they mask the true transmission by jamming electronic devices, ever wondered why you suddenly can't get a signal on your mobile phone? These invisible waves are turning young teens into blood trusty murders, as they sudden increase in stabbing in London shows.

Here are a few links to expand your mind on the subject.

TheHiddenEvil.pdf (http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Handbook/TheHiddenEvil.pdf)

UK INTELLIGENCE FORCES AND MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL (http://www.whale.to/b/rifat.html)

whiterain
03-11-2009, 04:12 PM
a friend of my parent came to stay with us a couple of years back and it became apparent that he was having some issues with him being afraid of people he thought were after him. it turned out that the block of flats he lived in was up for some kind of demolition/turning into offices or something and he was fighting the council over it. absolutely lovely bloke now a shell of his former self doped up on all sorts apparently. my mum explained that she thought it was just the stress of fighting this that caused him to breakdown but now i definately have my doubts. these kind of building contracts can be worth millions and it would not surprise me at al to find out there were underhand tactics. a bit like the story recently of some guy killing someone cos they wouldnt move out of a block they wanted to do something with. anyway we all know what kind of connections some in the building trade must have

rydeon
03-11-2009, 05:13 PM
I don't agree so much, if you mean that you believe 'mafia' are behind this. I have a taped confession of a high ranking military officer who expresses his heartfelt sadness for ever being part of any such thing. I have a confession by banking officials that they are coerced into acting out certain harrassing activities, etc. etc. Also, I did not say that the primary organisation behind this was Governement. BUT, rather, that high ranking government officials are fully aware and allowing this to continue. They are part of a large organisation that has connections or at least uses all sectors of society, including organised crime/criminals.

By and large though, organised crime is profiteering only. Gangstalking is part of a more abhorrent crime and altogether different. It is not about making money. It is primarily about gaining power and control, human research and experiment.

A branch of the NWO illuminati I'd say.

bealert
03-11-2009, 05:49 PM
Organized Gang Stalking - YouTube

Gang stalking video

jakemaverick
03-11-2009, 08:35 PM
a friend of my parent came to stay with us a couple of years back and it became apparent that he was having some issues with him being afraid of people he thought were after him. it turned out that the block of flats he lived in was up for some kind of demolition/turning into offices or something and he was fighting the council over it. absolutely lovely bloke now a shell of his former self doped up on all sorts apparently. my mum explained that she thought it was just the stress of fighting this that caused him to breakdown but now i definately have my doubts. these kind of building contracts can be worth millions and it would not surprise me at al to find out there were underhand tactics. a bit like the story recently of some guy killing someone cos they wouldnt move out of a block they wanted to do something with. anyway we all know what kind of connections some in the building trade must have

that's exactly how my story started....

peace111
04-11-2009, 10:07 AM
For whatever reason, I had no access to my account and forum so I wasn't able to post here until today.

peace111
04-11-2009, 10:09 AM
The original post was basically intended for:

1) For those whom it resonates with, if it does not, then there is no reason to stay with this thread.

2) To encourage genuine targets to speak up and connect with others who maybe experiencing the same thing or similar things.

3) To bring comfort and understanding to others who are experiencing similar things or know others who are.

4) To offer explanations for some of the negative experiences that targets have.

5) To highlight the issue to the general public, in the same way that all issues are raised. Awareness is power. Often crimes go unchecked because no-one speaks up.

6) For those that are not currently affected by gangstalking and it's related issues, it is for personal discernment and awareness raising.

It was with good intention and not for argument.

This post was not directed at anyone. I was unable to say so because I couldn't access my account or forum for a day and a bit.

peace111
04-11-2009, 10:51 AM
Although there may well be an 'illuminati', crazy free masons, dodgey this that and the other I also feel that a great deal of information, primarily on the net is fiction and 'Red Herring', in politics, religion, social issues, etc etc. So many unrelated issues are mixed in together and served up as 'useful' info but they just aren't lol. And mostly, I'm not particularly interested in about 80% of what's available. And to be honest, it just seems to muddy clear waters.

This is not to say that 'it's all lies!'... and that some truths aren't shared, obviously there's some wonderful, positive information out there. But the other stuff...it seems to me that when there is a will (by whomever) to create confusion, fear and misdirection they are best created when a bit of truth is served hand in hand with a good dollop of lies. As with anything in life weeding out the chaff from the wheat/discernment is essential, even if it feels like pulling teeth, but we all know that.

As far as GS and it's related issues are concerned, I feel and know (with proof enough for me) that many who purport to being targets of this that and the other are not who they say they are. But sadly they build up such huge followings that their 'every' word is believed and they are held up as authorities in these matters. Lol, anyone who is genuine does not have a following and is rarely believed or genuinely supported. Again, with these characters extracting the truths and dumping the bull is very necessary. But even then, staying away from it altogether is probably the most useful idea lol.

whiterain
04-11-2009, 11:35 AM
that's exactly how my story started....

wow really, cheers. curiouser and curiouser. take care

tien an
04-11-2009, 12:09 PM
Although there may well be an 'illuminati', crazy free masons, dodgey this that and the other I also feel that a great deal of information, primarily on the net is fiction and 'Red Herring', in politics, religion, social issues, etc etc. So many unrelated issues are mixed in together and served up as 'useful' info but they just aren't lol. And mostly, I'm not particularly interested in about 80% of what's available. And to be honest, it just seems to muddy clear waters.

This is not to say that 'it's all lies!'... and that some truths aren't shared, obviously there's some wonderful, positive information out there. But the other stuff...it seems to me that when there is a will (by whomever) to create confusion, fear and misdirection they are best created when a bit of truth is served hand in hand with a good dollop of lies. As with anything in life weeding out the chaff from the wheat/discernment is essential, even if it feels like pulling teeth, but we all know that.

As far as GS and it's related issues are concerned, I feel and know (with proof enough for me) that many who purport to being targets of this that and the other are not who they say they are. But sadly they build up such huge followings that their 'every' word is believed and they are held up as authorities in these matters. Lol, anyone who is genuine does not have a following and is rarely believed or genuinely supported. Again, with these characters extracting the truths and dumping the bull is very necessary. But even then, staying away from it altogether is probably the most useful idea lol.

Why do you say that? (in bold)
Surely if we stay away from the subject, it will simply continue?
Or have I misunderstood?

Over the last 24hrs or so, I've watched a couple of videos (posted here...thanks to contributors), and realise it's bigger than I thought.
No; you've got me now...I'm interested.

tian an.

peace111
04-11-2009, 01:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztci2RNUAfU&feature=related

Gang stalking video


We all have fears by the bucket loads but GS. is about creating fear and fearful situations, where there was none or occassionally by exacerbating existing fears. But mostly it is about creating problems that did not previously exist. The goal is to make the target fearful and 'appear' fearful.

I have found a couple of things that Marshall Thomas (video you posted) useful but mostly I find him to be of no positive help. On a personal level my direct contact with him has been negative and I no longer pay attention to most of his info.

Thanks for sharing though.

meksar
04-11-2009, 03:03 PM
Gangstalkers are just sick fuckers plain and simple, you will see them on public transport pretending to film buildings whilst trying to snap photos whilst your guard is down. Its no coincidence that laws are being introduced which give police the right to enter properties without warrants or even if nobody is home.

peace111
04-11-2009, 05:05 PM
PREDATORY GANGSTALKING

"Predatory Gangstalking is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade all areas of an individual's life on a continuing basis, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B.Ross c 2005

Tactics of Predatory Gangstalking include highly coordinated surveillance (hidden cameras, conversation bugging in private aswell as public), harassment, and psychological, psychosocial, financial, and sometimes physical assaults on an individual by a large group of people who are often strangers to the targeted individual.

A Predatory Gangstalking group is a well-run organization comprised of
members who are unidentified as gangstalkers to the outside world. Until a group of gangstalkers turn their face towards someone selected to be one of their targets, members of society do not realize there is such an invisible group. The practitioners of predatory gangstalking are people who, for the most part, go about their business of daily life appearing like everyone else, except for their activities involved with Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory gangstalking activities take priority over everything else in the lives of Predatory Gangstalkers. Predatory gangstalking is actually a lifestyle for those who participate in it.

Predatory Gangstalking is also called "terror stalking", "gangstalking", "flash mobbing", "cause stalking," "hate stalking," "multi-stalking, "happy slapping," "workplace bullying, and "covert war."

. "Flash mobbing" is an event occurring when a targeted individual is spotted in society. Their photo and location is immediately and simultaneously sent out by cell phone text messages and Internet email to all gangstalkers within a certain radius. All gangstalkers then suddenly descend upon the target as a mob.

. "Cause stalking" refers to gangstalking by single-issue radicals.
They stalk a targeted person related to that specific agenda. "Cause stalking" has been reported to have been carried out by radical Christians who believe in "dominion theology."

Dominion Theology is a religious interpretation of the Bible which these
groups believe requires them to "take dominion over the earth" which they believe is the precursor to the return of Jesus to earth. "Cause stalkers" in general believe that they are bringing about social change through gangstalking activities. "Cause stalking" can be carried out by White Supremacist as a form of "Hate Stalking (Scientology groups are another eg.)." This type of predatory gangstalking is primarily for the purpose of intimidation and often is a precursor to or an adjunct to violence.

. "Happy slapping" refers to group harassment of one youth by other youths carried live over cell phones equipped to handle video to peers youths. The young gangstalkers slap around the targeted youth while laughing at him or her while several other youths broadcast the incident live to as many peers as possible.

. "Ritual Gangstalking" is reportedly performed by cults and secret organizations such as Satanists, secret orders of free masons, some voodoo /obeah practitioners and Scientologists as a means of control or for punishment. "Ritual abuse" is incorporated into "ritual gangstalking" patterns in this case.

N.B. Obeah is considered one of the darkest forms of black magic known. Blood sacrifice is always used and the intent is to harm, even to death, another person.

. "Workplace bullying" involves gangstalking activities tailored to the workplace
which are carried out by a group of employees against another individual employee.

* "Cybergangstalking" is a situation where an individual is identified to be a target through Internet participation and their personal identity is determined. Cybergangstalkers pierce the electronic veil and are able to enter into the real life of a person, creating all forms of harassment, theft, psychological operations including slander and libel, and able to commit crimes against the targeted individual.

* "Vigilante Stalking, Terror Stalking" is the same as Predatory
Stalking.

For the purpose of this informational writing, all activities will be referred to as "predatory gangstalking" because the tactics and characteristics of the gangstalking are the same. And often a targeted person will become the victim of more than one type of gangstalking.


"Predatory Gangstalking" is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade an individual's life on a continuous basis, to an extreme degree, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B. Ross

Predatory Gangstalking is reported by historians to have been originally developed by social scientists and psychologists in communist and fascist's countries as a means of control of individuals within those societies. The tactics and techniques of Predatory Gangstalking were developed through animal and then human experimentation. The methodology of Predatory Gangstalking is precise and well-orchestrated. It is reported that the technical mechanics for Predatory Gangstalking werefirst sold on the Black Market by the ruling party leaders of East Germany when the USSR political systems crumbled. These protocols were subsequently exported to other countries and implemented there against unsuspecting citizens. Predatory
Gangstalking has been reportedly against citizens worldwide. Thus far, it has continued unchecked. One of the reasons for the unchallenged proliferation of this form of organized crime is that it characteristically takes place in such a way that it is invisible to the untrained eye. It is understandably, therefore, considered to be the ‘perfect crime’, as it remains unchallenged and extremely difficult to prove.

The countries with the greatest number of reports are the US, Canada, Germany, and England. In the US, the states with the greatest number of reported predatory gangstalkings are California, Texas, and New York. The predominant proportion of individuals targeted by gangstalkers are non-Caucasians. It is difficult to find other predominant similar characteristics in targets. The reasons that an individual is selected for targeting are unknown. It can only be speculated to include reasons such as easy accessibility to the target, random selection for training for new Predatory Gangstalkers, minority group member relative to hate-based groups, making an example of someone, revenge, retaliation, and social control.

Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians, members of hate groups such as White Supremacists, members of motorcycle and street gangs, and homeless people. They are also often people with a background in the military, including disabled Vets. Higher levels in the Predatory Gangstalking organizations include people in military and law enforcement or with same experience, secret service/defence employees, government officials, Banking firms, and so on. It has been reported that top level government security and intelligence agencies use gangstalking tactics in covert operations. What is most baffling about Predatory Gangstalking is that many of the practitioners of this social pathology appear to be regular mainstream people with no prior criminal record, predominantly in the socio-economic middle class. It is presumed they participate for the money or rewards they receive in the form of barter or for a social-conscience feelgood factor.


The world of Predatory Gangstalking increases as new recruits are initiated into the Predatory Gangstalking process. Therefore, a target may see collusion and participation from neighbors and co- workers who were once on good terms with the target. The circle of predatory gangstalkers widens with time. However, most of the time, the gangstalkers are complete strangers to the target. In most of the encounters the target has with gangstalkers, the target does not recognize the perpetrators but the gangstalkers readily recognize the target. Further, these predatory strangers possess detailed knowledge about the targeted individual. Most often, Predatory Gangstalking is being engaged in by parties unknown, for reasons unknown, to the target. People have died after a lifetime of protracted Predatory Gangstalking without having any explanations as to who was doing this or why this happened to them.

Sometimes, the leaders in these large affiliated groups of gangstalkers have specialized military expertise in the areas of military intelligence, military electronics and equipment, and in military strategic and tactical training. Those without formal military training have often engaged in paramilitary activities or have technical skills commonly found in successful career criminals. Others who join a Predatory Gangstalking group without such a background are given on-the-job training, in addition to other gangstalking skills. It can be said with certainty that there are specific protocols and tactics and most gangstalkers appear to be proficient in a similar set of skills.

Predatory Gangstalkers each have their own individual skill that they contribute towards their common goal in the group. One person in a group knows how to pick locks; another knows how to hack into computers, while someone else provides the GPS and electronic equipment. Many Predatory Gangstalking members know how to tamper with a vehicle. Some predatory gangstalkers are practiced "look outs" while others are group leaders. Predatory gangstalking groups have their rank and file as in any other organization. Orders come from the top, just as in any other organization. However, it is unknown whether the top of the organizations are local, regional, national, or international.

Predatory Gangstalkers use state-of-the-art technology coupled with law-enforcement- style surveillance tactics. Typically, the individual gangstalkers are strangers to the target. ("Happy slapping" and "workplace bullying" are the most common exceptions) Participants in predatory gangstalking are well-trained. The tactics and techniques they use are similar all around the world in the numerous countries where this has been reported. Each group of predatory gangstalkers is a covert army unto themselves. They have incorporated specialized techniques originally used by spies during the cold war. They carry out their field work with military style precision. Then, they go about their daily lives, just like any other member of society, in most cases. Their gangstalking skills are highly sophisticated, and their commitment to Predatory Gangstalking exceeds zealousness. It appears to both an observer and a target that nothing required of them in terms of time or availability is too much trouble for them. As stated previously, but worth
repeating, predatory gangstalking activities take priority in the lives of those who practice Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory Gangstalkers are a functioning subculture of society that move invisibly through society as such. This is by design, making it even more dangerous to society.


The goals of Predatory Gangstalking of an individual are numerous. Predatory
Gangstalking is intended to deprive someone of their freedoms and rights. It destroys a person's privacy and control of their own environments. It is intended to create distress, disrupt all relationships, deplete person's resources, destroy one's physical and mental health, and inflict great overall long term suffering. They interfere with a target's sleep thereby producing chronic sleep deprivation, as a strategic tactic. They employ a variety of interactions with the targeted individual which are likely to produce accidents and various forms of illness. One of the main weapons they use for their own protection and to enable their success in gangstalking is to manipulate the target's life in such a way as to cause them to lose their credibility with others. This is usually the first objective reached. After that, gangstalking the target involves only minor risk. Notably, people who become involved generally stop caring about the abuse by either turning a blind eye or actively joining in. While others, though concerned for the target, become too frightened to speak out or come to believe the propoganda that the target is mentally ill and needs ‘this‘ help.

Predatory Gangstalking also involves provoking "accidents" and consequences of harm to the target. Predatory Gangstalkers will surrounding a target's moving vehicle and attempting to force them off of the road when they are stressed and exhausted.

Worse, these tactics will be employed after tampering with a targeted individual's vehicle. Predatory Gangstalking is very serious business. Predatory Gangstalking is, at the least, psychological violence, and at most, it is a protracted sadistic sociopathic domination and calculated destruction of an innocent human being for reasons of pleasure, power, and social control by a group predatory stranger.

It is rightfully assumed that money is involved in Predatory Gangstalking
because of the amount of resources required to execute such extensive efforts. The gangstalkers develop capabilities directly proportionate to the amount money that funds them. In following the money trail speculatively, one looks to the possibility that drug money is involved. Some people reason that the government may be involved because of the amount of resources that are available to the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking. Other individual situations seem to indicate that corporations, insurance companies, and even wealthy individuals with revenge motives fund a Predatory Gangstalking.

In addition to cash payment for participation in Predatory Gangstalking, other forms of barter are used. These include drugs, *, alcohol, reciprocal favors, release from debts, jobs, contracts,"deals" for legal problems, and other forms of compensation. Some gangstalkers are given free housing in exchange for performing Predatory Gangstalking activities against a nearby target. However, it is clear from observing Predatory Gangstalkers in action that many engage in it for pleasure. One high ranking leader in Predatory Gangstalking stated that it was like an addiction. He described how the build up and culmination of a gangstalking assault was intoxicating, but that there was a let-down feeling afterwards that compelled him to do it again, and the cycle continued.


It is also true that some people participate in Predatory Gangstalking because they are deceived into participating. Friends, neighbors and associates of a selected target are given false information and finally come to believe the targeted individual has committed a heinous crime for which they deserve what is portrayed them to be rehabilitative social intervention. Sometimes people reluctantly participate in indirect ways, such as making their homes available at times for part of the operation, for fear of consequences if they did not. Others involved in Predatory Gangstalking, including the homeless, do so for money or drugs. Disabled Vets are known to participate in Predatory Gangstalking activities for alleged government or defense contractor's projects. Predatory Gangstalkers have successfully elicited the participation of neighbors by appealing to their sense of service to the community or government, often representing themselves as affiliates
of the government or law enforcement. Lastly, those who are in the underworld or secret organizations practice Predatory Gangstalking as part of their membership duties.

The craft and practice of Predatory Gangstalking appears to be standardized around the world. Many similarities parallel incidents reported by targets internationally. It appears that there is a standard protocol involving a series of tactics, progressive phases, and nature of assaults. It appears that an individual has been selected to become a target and the groundwork has been established for their assaults long before the individual can be aware that something criminal is occurring in their lives and to their person. Predatory Gangstalkers achieve this strategically. By the time the targeted individual becomes aware that something very threatening and disturbing is happening to them, they have already been thoroughly investigated by their enemies, stigmatized, discredited, and compromised. All wells have been already poisoned, so to speak, and all avenues of help and escape have been blocked.

Predatory Gangstalkers first establish "information dominance" over a targeted individual. This achievement alone enables them to attain excessive power over the targeted individual. It is believed that this is accomplished by means of eavesdropping devices in the target's environment, global positioning technology (GPS) secreted on their vehicles, obtaining illegal access to all of a targeted individual's personal records such banks accounts, emails, medical records, and credit card purchases. They are often able to achieve 100% surveillance of a targeted individual and almost 100% access to a targeted individual's entire lifetime of available information from any computer, paper, photographic, or personal source. They use all of the information obtained to ambush and sabotage a targeted individual. Predatory Gangstalkers ultimately become capable of entering a target's house, place of employment, and vehicle at-will and often. All forms of communications in the targeted individual's life is interfered with by the gangstalkers. They will intercept email, tamper with voicemail, and obstruct the delivery of postal mail. The net result is that all communication in a targeted individual's life
will become unreliable and incomplete, both incoming and outgoing. The Predatory Gangstalkers are then capable of greater insidious manipulation and control.


Predatory Gangstalkers constantly update information about a target. Updates are promptly shared with all of the participants in that predatory gangstalking group. They take frequent photographs of the targeted individual, and maintain photos of the target's house, vehicle, place of employment, family, friends, and even the target's pets. They promptly disseminate this information through email and cell phones to other gangstalkers. This is the means by which a targeted individual is continually recognized by Predatory Gangstalkers everywhere they go. The Predatory Gangstalkers sadistically prefer to maintain a file of photos taken at points in time when the victimization reaches peaks, such as when a target is reaping consequences brought about by the gangstalkers, such as upon a targeted individual's firing, eviction, or when the person emotionally breaks down, or when they appear disheveled from insomnia or is fearful.

Psychological profiling is yet another tactic performed on a targeted individual for the purpose of finding weaknesses. They exploit all information obtained, including fears, triggers, value-conflicts, skeletons in the closet, areas of shame, addictions, vices, and all things they hold dear. They often successfully "interview" a target under various guises. They use the information obtained to maximize the Predatory Gangstalkers' ability to destroy the targeted individual.

Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking have their own coded language, both
verbal and visual. Each targeted individual is referred to by an assigned code word. Hand signals are an important tool of their universal protocol. Some hand signals resemble the mannerisms used in baseball and other sports. Other signals are those found in law enforcement and the military. They use hand signals to identify the area of a target's body designated to be the target of a pending physical attack. This is often the eyes and the heart. They also use hand signals to coordinate the unauthorized entry into a target's home or vehicle. They also use hand signals during roving vehicle caravans and while on foot, for the purpose of coordinating attacks and pointing out the location of a target. Vehicle alarm panic buttons and horns are other commonly used tools of communication and coordination. In residential areas, outside lights have an established set of messages. They also use "dead drops" like spies have done historically to secretly pass along information to one another. Public bathrooms are commonly utilized as locations for the transfer of information and equipment. Mobile pick-up and delivery systems are in place for this purpose as well. They have a set of questions and responses to confirm the identity of a predatory gangstalker to another which are also coded. In the USA they refer to money by the last names of the president whose face is on the bill. Someone may say "I have references. (translation: money). I know 5 of the Franklin's." Their coded language is universal to them.

Predatory Gangstalkers will begin an intense and extensive discrediting campaign against a selected target well before the target could even suspect he or she has an enemy. This critical tactic sets the stage for neighbors and associates to become alienated from the target. One of the Predatory Gangstalkers' goals is to eliminate all forms of support and assistance for the target. Towards this objective, the police are given anonymous "concerned citizen" tips designed to lead the police to believe the target is mentally unstable or a problem in the community in advance of any actual direct gangstalking of the targeted individual. This sets the stage for having the targeted individual prejudged so they will be disbelieved and dismissed when the gangstalking begins and they seek help. The discrediting campaign includes accusing the target of being an "undesirable" for any number of reasons, including fabricated reports of having committed crimes that are the most repulsive to members of society. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking even go so far as to represent themselves as undercover law enforcement or government agents. It has been reported that they will even show false documents for substantiation, but they will never leave them behind.

Financial devastation is another goal of Predatory Gangstalking. Towards this goal, they make attempts to destroy one's gainful employment, pose as offering services to intervene in the problem to further take your money, and will steal funds and personal property on an on-going basis. Repeated unauthorized entries into a target's residence, vehicles, computer, and workplace are hallmark tactics of this crime and is nearly impossible to stop. Predatory Gangstalkers can pick locks, bypass security alarms, and enter any location posing as utility crews, law enforcement, or delivery men. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking will apply for and obtain legitimate jobs in a target's home or business in order to have access to the target and their life, relationships, and assets just to do harm.


Predatory Gangstalking employs a tactic of syncronicity. This tactic involves the precise timing of interactions with the targeted individual. For example, the target can go out to get the morning newspaper and encounter gangstalking activities that suddenly appear and which are precisely synchronized. Throughout the targeted individual's day, these synchronized encounters repeatedly occur. Activities such as leaving one's driveway,
taking out the trash, going to a store, or even walking the dog, are activities which result in an encounter with one or more Predatory Gangstalkers. Even when a target strategically does not follow any set routine, these synchronized occurrences continue.

This makes the gangstalkers appear to be all- knowing and almost omnipresent in the mind of a new targeted individual. This is intimidating, demoralizing, and even terrorizing to targets. It is often unavoidable.

In the case of primary targeted individuals of gangstalking (the rare individuals who are the priority target of global gangstalking) the primary objective is to induce as much fear as possible and over time as the numbers of individuals that become involved or are made aware of a target, the abuse can increase substantially, so that there is no aspect of the targets life that is private or sacred. Rarely, if ever, does a targeted individual engage in an activity of daily living without the unwanted participation of Predatory Gangstalkers. The timing and coordination of these activities are remarkably precise. The targeted individual becomes aware that all of their activities include the presence of Predatory Gangstalkers. These gangstalkers demand to be noticed by their target, and if they are not, they will take an action to be noticed. This could include honking their horn strategically, making a comment, creating a scenario to get the attention of the targeted individual. Once noticed, they will return to non-contact, knowing that by that point, the targeted individual will henceforth anxiously watch for them.

Most times, however, these practitioners of gangstalking maintain the appearance of "business as usual." They rarely make direct contact, with some exception. However, these strangers often boldly smirk and openly laugh at the targeted individual at some close point in the encounter. This is the universal exception to the "no direct contact" protocol. Other times, when verbal or physical contact is made, these encounters are conducted in such a way as to appear to have been "happenstance."

Since most of the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking rotate in and out of the life of a target, the same patterns of gangstalking will occur, but it will involve different people all the time. Therefore, many different stranger and many different vehicles will walk, drive, or bike past the target and interact in some manner, at various times and locations. All of the predatory gangstalkers will be strangers to the targeted individual and they
will continue to make their presence, but not their purpose, known. This is one element of Predatory Gangstalking that is disbelieved by others. These "others" include law enforcement, the medical profession, and family. Those who are unaware of activities of subcultures such as criminals, secret organizations, clubs, extremist groups, radical political groups, hate groups, organized crime groups, and other antisocial groups, the scope of attack by Predatory Gangstalkers is unfathomable. Never the less, the extent of this massive assault on one individual is as extensive as described here and even more so.

Let it be said that we really do live in amazing times. The world itself has seen much change and turmoil even in the last century, and with the increase of technology, the desire in those who choose to live out of balance with life and try to live in dominance and control of the masses have opted for this horrendous path of ‘stolen power’. This may sound quite vague, and it is, only because the other face of ganstalking or rather the precise reason for its use deals with a more incredible phenomena than hasn't been touched up yet. In the first instance, we mustn't be so naïve as to assume that our governments and all those that have been granted the power and authority to run our world are acting from a selfless perspective. They simply are not. The secrets of the universe, God and true power have always been the Holy Grail of man, and the desperate desire to achieve and own them by some.

To this effect the studies and research that has been conducted since time immemorial have been immense, with the one of the holiest of holiest being the understanding of the human mind, soul and will and how these can be controlled and used far more readily than man has been able to achieve so far. And it is for these reasons that extensive and more covert experimentation has been undertaken on people targeted for this work. These people are the targetted individuals of gangstalking.

Our minds are complex structures, our memories (long and short term), our thought processes, our fears and so on. If it is true that we do indeed manifest what we think as countless experts have us believe and that spiritually we are indeed one soul fragmented but unequivocally connected in a unified field, then it stands to reason that if one or a few souls and minds can be controlled then this will lead to the occupation of ALL. This of course sounds like insane rantings but assuredly this is the reality humanity faces today. There is a dark agenda to control all minds by controlling the energetic fields of existence, our physical bodies, dna, etheric fields, mental and emotional fields and so on.

Next, imagine for a moment if a ‘Lucifer’ were also created from one of the targeted individuals, more than just the social pariah they started as, what if society is lead to believe that they are actually a satanic entity or individual. In doing so, a common enemy is created with which to blame all eventual chaos upon. This is another portion of the agenda.

It is in the end the stuff of nightmares and what has been called dark prophecy or conspiracy theory is actually ancient agenda in it’s final stages of being played out.

On a personal level, participating in any form of gangstalking is not only insane but utterly immoral, and spiritually and ciminally corrupt. If you care, choose never to participate, inform the target (carefully/secretly), make a united stand with friends and neighbours not participate and log all the evidence you can - takedown all information you can. Be smart, technology and the capability of those that have orchestrated these world terrors are immense.

But most of all remember that the 'fear matrix' within the collective consciousness of humanity is an overall target. If people are afraid they can be controlled. Stand firm in a belief of your divinity and eternal being (whether you believe in a God or not) you are still part Omnipotent Grace experiencing on earth.

Peace be with us all.

peace111
04-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Gangstalkers are just sick fuckers plain and simple, you will see them on public transport pretending to film buildings whilst trying to snap photos whilst your guard is down. Its no coincidence that laws are being introduced which give police the right to enter properties without warrants or even if nobody is home.

This is new to me...Is that what happens to you?

entrangermercenary
04-11-2009, 05:33 PM
They probably are gangstalkers. I had a friend hack a site I frequent, not so long ago..lol as soon as he got some details the place cleared out...too funny.

As for questions, I don't read any. All I am reading is a continuous request for 'proof'. That is act of discrediting. If they had of asked questions and shown more genuine interest that would been more reasonable.

Hi sweetie :D FFS blue rinse today is it dear !!!

Having read all your arrogant replies to any1 who disagrees with you and even some that do, my we are full of ourself eh !!!!!!

2many questions from you for my liking. Wtf has is got to do with you who has been gangstalked. Or is that so you can get the info then have your m8 hack the account and carry on a sick game :mad:

dantesinferno
04-11-2009, 05:42 PM
You posted your essay as your OP, why post it again? that's called spamming.

bealert
04-11-2009, 05:53 PM
PREDATORY GANGSTALKING

"Predatory Gangstalking is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade all areas of an individual's life on a continuing basis, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B.Ross c 2005

Tactics of Predatory Gangstalking include highly coordinated surveillance (hidden cameras, conversation bugging in private aswell as public), harassment, and psychological, psychosocial, financial, and sometimes physical assaults on an individual by a large group of people who are often strangers to the targeted individual.

A Predatory Gangstalking group is a well-run organization comprised of
members who are unidentified as gangstalkers to the outside world. Until a group of gangstalkers turn their face towards someone selected to be one of their targets, members of society do not realize there is such an invisible group. The practitioners of predatory gangstalking are people who, for the most part, go about their business of daily life appearing like everyone else, except for their activities involved with Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory gangstalking activities take priority over everything else in the lives of Predatory Gangstalkers. Predatory gangstalking is actually a lifestyle for those who participate in it.

Predatory Gangstalking is also called "terror stalking", "gangstalking", "flash mobbing", "cause stalking," "hate stalking," "multi-stalking, "happy slapping," "workplace bullying, and "covert war."

. "Flash mobbing" is an event occurring when a targeted individual is spotted in society. Their photo and location is immediately and simultaneously sent out by cell phone text messages and Internet email to all gangstalkers within a certain radius. All gangstalkers then suddenly descend upon the target as a mob.

. "Cause stalking" refers to gangstalking by single-issue radicals.
They stalk a targeted person related to that specific agenda. "Cause stalking" has been reported to have been carried out by radical Christians who believe in "dominion theology."

Dominion Theology is a religious interpretation of the Bible which these
groups believe requires them to "take dominion over the earth" which they believe is the precursor to the return of Jesus to earth. "Cause stalkers" in general believe that they are bringing about social change through gangstalking activities. "Cause stalking" can be carried out by White Supremacist as a form of "Hate Stalking (Scientology groups are another eg.)." This type of predatory gangstalking is primarily for the purpose of intimidation and often is a precursor to or an adjunct to violence.

. "Happy slapping" refers to group harassment of one youth by other youths carried live over cell phones equipped to handle video to peers youths. The young gangstalkers slap around the targeted youth while laughing at him or her while several other youths broadcast the incident live to as many peers as possible.

. "Ritual Gangstalking" is reportedly performed by cults and secret organizations such as Satanists, secret orders of free masons, some voodoo /obeah practitioners and Scientologists as a means of control or for punishment. "Ritual abuse" is incorporated into "ritual gangstalking" patterns in this case.

N.B. Obeah is considered one of the darkest forms of black magic known. Blood sacrifice is always used and the intent is to harm, even to death, another person.

. "Workplace bullying" involves gangstalking activities tailored to the workplace
which are carried out by a group of employees against another individual employee.

* "Cybergangstalking" is a situation where an individual is identified to be a target through Internet participation and their personal identity is determined. Cybergangstalkers pierce the electronic veil and are able to enter into the real life of a person, creating all forms of harassment, theft, psychological operations including slander and libel, and able to commit crimes against the targeted individual.

* "Vigilante Stalking, Terror Stalking" is the same as Predatory
Stalking.

For the purpose of this informational writing, all activities will be referred to as "predatory gangstalking" because the tactics and characteristics of the gangstalking are the same. And often a targeted person will become the victim of more than one type of gangstalking.


"Predatory Gangstalking" is a criminal phenomenon referring to a group of loosely affiliated people who, in an organized and systematic manner, relentlessly invade an individual's life on a continuous basis, to an extreme degree, as part of their lifestyle. While each individual gangstalker does his or her small part, what defines Predatory Gangstalking is the collective intent to do harm." R.B. Ross

Predatory Gangstalking is reported by historians to have been originally developed by social scientists and psychologists in communist and fascist's countries as a means of control of individuals within those societies. The tactics and techniques of Predatory Gangstalking were developed through animal and then human experimentation. The methodology of Predatory Gangstalking is precise and well-orchestrated. It is reported that the technical mechanics for Predatory Gangstalking werefirst sold on the Black Market by the ruling party leaders of East Germany when the USSR political systems crumbled. These protocols were subsequently exported to other countries and implemented there against unsuspecting citizens. Predatory
Gangstalking has been reportedly against citizens worldwide. Thus far, it has continued unchecked. One of the reasons for the unchallenged proliferation of this form of organized crime is that it characteristically takes place in such a way that it is invisible to the untrained eye. It is understandably, therefore, considered to be the ‘perfect crime’, as it remains unchallenged and extremely difficult to prove.

The countries with the greatest number of reports are the US, Canada, Germany, and England. In the US, the states with the greatest number of reported predatory gangstalkings are California, Texas, and New York. The predominant proportion of individuals targeted by gangstalkers are non-Caucasians. It is difficult to find other predominant similar characteristics in targets. The reasons that an individual is selected for targeting are unknown. It can only be speculated to include reasons such as easy accessibility to the target, random selection for training for new Predatory Gangstalkers, minority group member relative to hate-based groups, making an example of someone, revenge, retaliation, and social control.

Who are the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking? They include career criminals, participants in the drug trade, extreme ideologists such as radical Christians, members of hate groups such as White Supremacists, members of motorcycle and street gangs, and homeless people. They are also often people with a background in the military, including disabled Vets. Higher levels in the Predatory Gangstalking organizations include people in military and law enforcement or with same experience, secret service/defence employees, government officials, Banking firms, and so on. It has been reported that top level government security and intelligence agencies use gangstalking tactics in covert operations. What is most baffling about Predatory Gangstalking is that many of the practitioners of this social pathology appear to be regular mainstream people with no prior criminal record, predominantly in the socio-economic middle class. It is presumed they participate for the money or rewards they receive in the form of barter or for a social-conscience feelgood factor.


The world of Predatory Gangstalking increases as new recruits are initiated into the Predatory Gangstalking process. Therefore, a target may see collusion and participation from neighbors and co- workers who were once on good terms with the target. The circle of predatory gangstalkers widens with time. However, most of the time, the gangstalkers are complete strangers to the target. In most of the encounters the target has with gangstalkers, the target does not recognize the perpetrators but the gangstalkers readily recognize the target. Further, these predatory strangers possess detailed knowledge about the targeted individual. Most often, Predatory Gangstalking is being engaged in by parties unknown, for reasons unknown, to the target. People have died after a lifetime of protracted Predatory Gangstalking without having any explanations as to who was doing this or why this happened to them.

Sometimes, the leaders in these large affiliated groups of gangstalkers have specialized military expertise in the areas of military intelligence, military electronics and equipment, and in military strategic and tactical training. Those without formal military training have often engaged in paramilitary activities or have technical skills commonly found in successful career criminals. Others who join a Predatory Gangstalking group without such a background are given on-the-job training, in addition to other gangstalking skills. It can be said with certainty that there are specific protocols and tactics and most gangstalkers appear to be proficient in a similar set of skills.

Predatory Gangstalkers each have their own individual skill that they contribute towards their common goal in the group. One person in a group knows how to pick locks; another knows how to hack into computers, while someone else provides the GPS and electronic equipment. Many Predatory Gangstalking members know how to tamper with a vehicle. Some predatory gangstalkers are practiced "look outs" while others are group leaders. Predatory gangstalking groups have their rank and file as in any other organization. Orders come from the top, just as in any other organization. However, it is unknown whether the top of the organizations are local, regional, national, or international.

Predatory Gangstalkers use state-of-the-art technology coupled with law-enforcement- style surveillance tactics. Typically, the individual gangstalkers are strangers to the target. ("Happy slapping" and "workplace bullying" are the most common exceptions) Participants in predatory gangstalking are well-trained. The tactics and techniques they use are similar all around the world in the numerous countries where this has been reported. Each group of predatory gangstalkers is a covert army unto themselves. They have incorporated specialized techniques originally used by spies during the cold war. They carry out their field work with military style precision. Then, they go about their daily lives, just like any other member of society, in most cases. Their gangstalking skills are highly sophisticated, and their commitment to Predatory Gangstalking exceeds zealousness. It appears to both an observer and a target that nothing required of them in terms of time or availability is too much trouble for them. As stated previously, but worth
repeating, predatory gangstalking activities take priority in the lives of those who practice Predatory Gangstalking. Predatory Gangstalkers are a functioning subculture of society that move invisibly through society as such. This is by design, making it even more dangerous to society.


The goals of Predatory Gangstalking of an individual are numerous. Predatory
Gangstalking is intended to deprive someone of their freedoms and rights. It destroys a person's privacy and control of their own environments. It is intended to create distress, disrupt all relationships, deplete person's resources, destroy one's physical and mental health, and inflict great overall long term suffering. They interfere with a target's sleep thereby producing chronic sleep deprivation, as a strategic tactic. They employ a variety of interactions with the targeted individual which are likely to produce accidents and various forms of illness. One of the main weapons they use for their own protection and to enable their success in gangstalking is to manipulate the target's life in such a way as to cause them to lose their credibility with others. This is usually the first objective reached. After that, gangstalking the target involves only minor risk. Notably, people who become involved generally stop caring about the abuse by either turning a blind eye or actively joining in. While others, though concerned for the target, become too frightened to speak out or come to believe the propoganda that the target is mentally ill and needs ‘this‘ help.

Predatory Gangstalking also involves provoking "accidents" and consequences of harm to the target. Predatory Gangstalkers will surrounding a target's moving vehicle and attempting to force them off of the road when they are stressed and exhausted.

Worse, these tactics will be employed after tampering with a targeted individual's vehicle. Predatory Gangstalking is very serious business. Predatory Gangstalking is, at the least, psychological violence, and at most, it is a protracted sadistic sociopathic domination and calculated destruction of an innocent human being for reasons of pleasure, power, and social control by a group predatory stranger.

It is rightfully assumed that money is involved in Predatory Gangstalking
because of the amount of resources required to execute such extensive efforts. The gangstalkers develop capabilities directly proportionate to the amount money that funds them. In following the money trail speculatively, one looks to the possibility that drug money is involved. Some people reason that the government may be involved because of the amount of resources that are available to the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking. Other individual situations seem to indicate that corporations, insurance companies, and even wealthy individuals with revenge motives fund a Predatory Gangstalking.

In addition to cash payment for participation in Predatory Gangstalking, other forms of barter are used. These include drugs, *, alcohol, reciprocal favors, release from debts, jobs, contracts,"deals" for legal problems, and other forms of compensation. Some gangstalkers are given free housing in exchange for performing Predatory Gangstalking activities against a nearby target. However, it is clear from observing Predatory Gangstalkers in action that many engage in it for pleasure. One high ranking leader in Predatory Gangstalking stated that it was like an addiction. He described how the build up and culmination of a gangstalking assault was intoxicating, but that there was a let-down feeling afterwards that compelled him to do it again, and the cycle continued.


It is also true that some people participate in Predatory Gangstalking because they are deceived into participating. Friends, neighbors and associates of a selected target are given false information and finally come to believe the targeted individual has committed a heinous crime for which they deserve what is portrayed them to be rehabilitative social intervention. Sometimes people reluctantly participate in indirect ways, such as making their homes available at times for part of the operation, for fear of consequences if they did not. Others involved in Predatory Gangstalking, including the homeless, do so for money or drugs. Disabled Vets are known to participate in Predatory Gangstalking activities for alleged government or defense contractor's projects. Predatory Gangstalkers have successfully elicited the participation of neighbors by appealing to their sense of service to the community or government, often representing themselves as affiliates
of the government or law enforcement. Lastly, those who are in the underworld or secret organizations practice Predatory Gangstalking as part of their membership duties.

The craft and practice of Predatory Gangstalking appears to be standardized around the world. Many similarities parallel incidents reported by targets internationally. It appears that there is a standard protocol involving a series of tactics, progressive phases, and nature of assaults. It appears that an individual has been selected to become a target and the groundwork has been established for their assaults long before the individual can be aware that something criminal is occurring in their lives and to their person. Predatory Gangstalkers achieve this strategically. By the time the targeted individual becomes aware that something very threatening and disturbing is happening to them, they have already been thoroughly investigated by their enemies, stigmatized, discredited, and compromised. All wells have been already poisoned, so to speak, and all avenues of help and escape have been blocked.

Predatory Gangstalkers first establish "information dominance" over a targeted individual. This achievement alone enables them to attain excessive power over the targeted individual. It is believed that this is accomplished by means of eavesdropping devices in the target's environment, global positioning technology (GPS) secreted on their vehicles, obtaining illegal access to all of a targeted individual's personal records such banks accounts, emails, medical records, and credit card purchases. They are often able to achieve 100% surveillance of a targeted individual and almost 100% access to a targeted individual's entire lifetime of available information from any computer, paper, photographic, or personal source. They use all of the information obtained to ambush and sabotage a targeted individual. Predatory Gangstalkers ultimately become capable of entering a target's house, place of employment, and vehicle at-will and often. All forms of communications in the targeted individual's life is interfered with by the gangstalkers. They will intercept email, tamper with voicemail, and obstruct the delivery of postal mail. The net result is that all communication in a targeted individual's life
will become unreliable and incomplete, both incoming and outgoing. The Predatory Gangstalkers are then capable of greater insidious manipulation and control.


Predatory Gangstalkers constantly update information about a target. Updates are promptly shared with all of the participants in that predatory gangstalking group. They take frequent photographs of the targeted individual, and maintain photos of the target's house, vehicle, place of employment, family, friends, and even the target's pets. They promptly disseminate this information through email and cell phones to other gangstalkers. This is the means by which a targeted individual is continually recognized by Predatory Gangstalkers everywhere they go. The Predatory Gangstalkers sadistically prefer to maintain a file of photos taken at points in time when the victimization reaches peaks, such as when a target is reaping consequences brought about by the gangstalkers, such as upon a targeted individual's firing, eviction, or when the person emotionally breaks down, or when they appear disheveled from insomnia or is fearful.

Psychological profiling is yet another tactic performed on a targeted individual for the purpose of finding weaknesses. They exploit all information obtained, including fears, triggers, value-conflicts, skeletons in the closet, areas of shame, addictions, vices, and all things they hold dear. They often successfully "interview" a target under various guises. They use the information obtained to maximize the Predatory Gangstalkers' ability to destroy the targeted individual.

Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking have their own coded language, both
verbal and visual. Each targeted individual is referred to by an assigned code word. Hand signals are an important tool of their universal protocol. Some hand signals resemble the mannerisms used in baseball and other sports. Other signals are those found in law enforcement and the military. They use hand signals to identify the area of a target's body designated to be the target of a pending physical attack. This is often the eyes and the heart. They also use hand signals to coordinate the unauthorized entry into a target's home or vehicle. They also use hand signals during roving vehicle caravans and while on foot, for the purpose of coordinating attacks and pointing out the location of a target. Vehicle alarm panic buttons and horns are other commonly used tools of communication and coordination. In residential areas, outside lights have an established set of messages. They also use "dead drops" like spies have done historically to secretly pass along information to one another. Public bathrooms are commonly utilized as locations for the transfer of information and equipment. Mobile pick-up and delivery systems are in place for this purpose as well. They have a set of questions and responses to confirm the identity of a predatory gangstalker to another which are also coded. In the USA they refer to money by the last names of the president whose face is on the bill. Someone may say "I have references. (translation: money). I know 5 of the Franklin's." Their coded language is universal to them.

Predatory Gangstalkers will begin an intense and extensive discrediting campaign against a selected target well before the target could even suspect he or she has an enemy. This critical tactic sets the stage for neighbors and associates to become alienated from the target. One of the Predatory Gangstalkers' goals is to eliminate all forms of support and assistance for the target. Towards this objective, the police are given anonymous "concerned citizen" tips designed to lead the police to believe the target is mentally unstable or a problem in the community in advance of any actual direct gangstalking of the targeted individual. This sets the stage for having the targeted individual prejudged so they will be disbelieved and dismissed when the gangstalking begins and they seek help. The discrediting campaign includes accusing the target of being an "undesirable" for any number of reasons, including fabricated reports of having committed crimes that are the most repulsive to members of society. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking even go so far as to represent themselves as undercover law enforcement or government agents. It has been reported that they will even show false documents for substantiation, but they will never leave them behind.

Financial devastation is another goal of Predatory Gangstalking. Towards this goal, they make attempts to destroy one's gainful employment, pose as offering services to intervene in the problem to further take your money, and will steal funds and personal property on an on-going basis. Repeated unauthorized entries into a target's residence, vehicles, computer, and workplace are hallmark tactics of this crime and is nearly impossible to stop. Predatory Gangstalkers can pick locks, bypass security alarms, and enter any location posing as utility crews, law enforcement, or delivery men. Practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking will apply for and obtain legitimate jobs in a target's home or business in order to have access to the target and their life, relationships, and assets just to do harm.


Predatory Gangstalking employs a tactic of syncronicity. This tactic involves the precise timing of interactions with the targeted individual. For example, the target can go out to get the morning newspaper and encounter gangstalking activities that suddenly appear and which are precisely synchronized. Throughout the targeted individual's day, these synchronized encounters repeatedly occur. Activities such as leaving one's driveway,
taking out the trash, going to a store, or even walking the dog, are activities which result in an encounter with one or more Predatory Gangstalkers. Even when a target strategically does not follow any set routine, these synchronized occurrences continue.

This makes the gangstalkers appear to be all- knowing and almost omnipresent in the mind of a new targeted individual. This is intimidating, demoralizing, and even terrorizing to targets. It is often unavoidable.

In the case of primary targeted individuals of gangstalking (the rare individuals who are the priority target of global gangstalking) the primary objective is to induce as much fear as possible and over time as the numbers of individuals that become involved or are made aware of a target, the abuse can increase substantially, so that there is no aspect of the targets life that is private or sacred. Rarely, if ever, does a targeted individual engage in an activity of daily living without the unwanted participation of Predatory Gangstalkers. The timing and coordination of these activities are remarkably precise. The targeted individual becomes aware that all of their activities include the presence of Predatory Gangstalkers. These gangstalkers demand to be noticed by their target, and if they are not, they will take an action to be noticed. This could include honking their horn strategically, making a comment, creating a scenario to get the attention of the targeted individual. Once noticed, they will return to non-contact, knowing that by that point, the targeted individual will henceforth anxiously watch for them.

Most times, however, these practitioners of gangstalking maintain the appearance of "business as usual." They rarely make direct contact, with some exception. However, these strangers often boldly smirk and openly laugh at the targeted individual at some close point in the encounter. This is the universal exception to the "no direct contact" protocol. Other times, when verbal or physical contact is made, these encounters are conducted in such a way as to appear to have been "happenstance."

Since most of the practitioners of Predatory Gangstalking rotate in and out of the life of a target, the same patterns of gangstalking will occur, but it will involve different people all the time. Therefore, many different stranger and many different vehicles will walk, drive, or bike past the target and interact in some manner, at various times and locations. All of the predatory gangstalkers will be strangers to the targeted individual and they
will continue to make their presence, but not their purpose, known. This is one element of Predatory Gangstalking that is disbelieved by others. These "others" include law enforcement, the medical profession, and family. Those who are unaware of activities of subcultures such as criminals, secret organizations, clubs, extremist groups, radical political groups, hate groups, organized crime groups, and other antisocial groups, the scope of attack by Predatory Gangstalkers is unfathomable. Never the less, the extent of this massive assault on one individual is as extensive as described here and even more so.

Let it be said that we really do live in amazing times. The world itself has seen much change and turmoil even in the last century, and with the increase of technology, the desire in those who choose to live out of balance with life and try to live in dominance and control of the masses have opted for this horrendous path of ‘stolen power’. This may sound quite vague, and it is, only because the other face of ganstalking or rather the precise reason for its use deals with a more incredible phenomena than hasn't been touched up yet. In the first instance, we mustn't be so naïve as to assume that our governments and all those that have been granted the power and authority to run our world are acting from a selfless perspective. They simply are not. The secrets of the universe, God and true power have always been the Holy Grail of man, and the desperate desire to achieve and own them by some.

To this effect the studies and research that has been conducted since time immemorial have been immense, with the one of the holiest of holiest being the understanding of the human mind, soul and will and how these can be controlled and used far more readily than man has been able to achieve so far. And it is for these reasons that extensive and more covert experimentation has been undertaken on people targeted for this work. These people are the targetted individuals of gangstalking.

Our minds are complex structures, our memories (long and short term), our thought processes, our fears and so on. If it is true that we do indeed manifest what we think as countless experts have us believe and that spiritually we are indeed one soul fragmented but unequivocally connected in a unified field, then it stands to reason that if one or a few souls and minds can be controlled then this will lead to the occupation of ALL. This of course sounds like insane rantings but assuredly this is the reality humanity faces today. There is a dark agenda to control all minds by controlling the energetic fields of existence, our physical bodies, dna, etheric fields, mental and emotional fields and so on.

Next, imagine for a moment if a ‘Lucifer’ were also created from one of the targeted individuals, more than just the social pariah they started as, what if society is lead to believe that they are actually a satanic entity or individual. In doing so, a common enemy is created with which to blame all eventual chaos upon. This is another portion of the agenda.

It is in the end the stuff of nightmares and what has been called dark prophecy or conspiracy theory is actually ancient agenda in it’s final stages of being played out.

On a personal level, participating in any form of gangstalking is not only insane but utterly immoral, and spiritually and ciminally corrupt. If you care, choose never to participate, inform the target (carefully/secretly), make a united stand with friends and neighbours not participate and log all the evidence you can - takedown all information you can. Be smart, technology and the capability of those that have orchestrated these world terrors are immense.

But most of all remember that the 'fear matrix' within the collective consciousness of humanity is an overall target. If people are afraid they can be controlled. Stand firm in a belief of your divinity and eternal being (whether you believe in a God or not) you are still part Omnipotent Grace experiencing on earth.

Peace be with us all.
Mate chill out...No matter how you try there are always those that will dispute the fact that gang stalking exists...there called perps...because the symptoms of gang stalking are the same as mental illness you can never prove your point to those that will not listen. The only way to beat it is not to talk about it and learn to cope with it ..exposure is not the way forward because as soon as you mention you have the symptoms you can be judged to be mentally ill. Havent read all the thread but can i ask what stage you are at etc whats happening to you at the moment

peace111
04-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Mate chill out...No matter how you try there are always those that will dispute the fact that gang stalking exists...there called perps...because the symptoms of gang stalking are the same as mental illness you can never prove your point to those that will not listen. The only way to beat it is not to talk about it and learn to cope with it ..exposure is not the way forward because as soon as you mention you have the symptoms you can be judged to be mentally ill. Havent read all the thread but can i ask what stage you are at etc whats happening to you at the moment

Hi,
No worries..I think you misunderstood though - what you are quoting and reacting to was actually the original post that started this thread, reposted for those that missed it the first time round and just as a reminder of the topic.

Threads sometimes get so long and muddled that the original post/idea seem to get lost or even goes unread in preference for the last few posts or so. Hopefully a repost once in a while keeps it alive and on topic.

So, actually, it wasn't a response to anyone like you seem to have thought....no worries again though, it's an easy mistake.

Also, as you didn't recognise it as the original post I'm guessing that you didn't get a chance to read it the first time but your response suggests that you took a look at the repost so happily, maybe it was worth it to you and some others.

Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

And about your question...I don't really know about stages so I can't really answer that. Are you experiencing this type of thing yourself?

bealert
04-11-2009, 07:09 PM
Hi,
No worries..I think you misunderstood though - what you are quoting and reacting to was actually the original post that started this thread, reposted for those that missed it the first time round and just as a reminder of the topic.

Threads sometimes get so long and muddled that the original post/idea seem to get lost or even goes unread in preference for the last few posts or so. Hopefully a repost once in a while keeps it alive and on topic.

So, actually, it wasn't a response to anyone like you seem to have thought....no worries again though, it's an easy mistake.

Also, as you didn't recognise it as the original post I'm guessing that you didn't get a chance to read it the first time but your response suggests that you took a look at the repost so happily, maybe it was worth it to you and some others.

Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

And about your question...I don't really know about stages so I can't really answer that. Are you experiencing this type of thing yourself?
whats happening to you?
Are you married?
Still got a job Etc

meksar
04-11-2009, 09:41 PM
This is new to me...Is that what happens to you?

Im pretty sure that was the case recently when two guys were on a bus and took photos on their phone towards my direction and got off the bus smirking. The bus was pretty empty and it wasn't like there was a attractive woman on the bus or anything interesting happening. A few years back a old boy got on a late bus and started talking to a bus driver about stabbings etc, he eventually came and sat right next to me and asked me if had payed for my ticket, i told him it was none of his concern and he replied "oh yes it is" and showed me a Arriva uniform under his jacket. He then said if your paranoid don't worry about it, and went back to talk the driver.

bealert
04-11-2009, 10:08 PM
Theres various different things that go on for sure. You know that you are on the right path, when it is directed at you. Just laugh at all the mind control techniques they attempt to employ. Even do them back. That will really make them lose the plot. lol
by the sheer ignorance of your post i very much doubt you are gang stalked or have ever been gang stalked...if you know anything about mind control (read up on sites)
then you will know theres no signs of mind control and no way of telling if its happening to you at any given time. Mind control affects the subconscious and is completely undetectable because we are not aware of our subconscious. It get very complicated but if your not in control of your subconscious then how much of your mind is really yours?. some victims might hear voices but that can just be ignored however messages to the subconscious cant be ignored because we are unaware of it.

some of your comments like (you know your on the right path if its happening to you) are total crap...im sorry to be harsh but your lack of knowledge and experience sticks out like sore thumb..i think you have been listening to deca for to long

whiterain
04-11-2009, 10:55 PM
by the sheer ignorance of your post i very much doubt you are gang stalked or have ever been gang stalked...if you know anything about mind control (read up on sites)
then you will know theres no signs of mind control and no way of telling if its happening to you at any given time. Mind control affects the subconscious and is completely undetectable because we are not aware of our subconscious. It get very complicated but if your not in control of your subconscious then how much of your mind is really yours?. some victims might hear voices but that can just be ignored however messages to the subconscious cant be ignored because we are unaware of it.

some of your comments like (you know your on the right path if its happening to you) are total crap...im sorry to be harsh but your lack of knowledge and experience sticks out like sore thumb..i think you have been listening to deca for to long

so your saying that it always takes the same form then?

bealert
05-11-2009, 01:34 AM
so your saying that it always takes the same form then?
no i am saying i can recognize a fake because the user makes ridiculous comments.

whiterain
05-11-2009, 01:52 AM
no i am saying i can recognize a fake because the user makes ridiculous comments.

well we live in a ridiculous world. ive been surprised by many things that i previously held as ridiculous, and frankly many of them are far stranger than ians comments. who knows? i just thought this was a place to express yourself with less fear of ridicule or dismissal than other places

bealert
05-11-2009, 03:10 AM
yes it is but that still doesn't excuse ridiculous comments that i know are not true but lets leave it there not worth causing a argument over it

peace111
05-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Im pretty sure that was the case recently when two guys were on a bus and took photos on their phone towards my direction and got off the bus smirking. The bus was pretty empty and it wasn't like there was a attractive woman on the bus or anything interesting happening. A few years back a old boy got on a late bus and started talking to a bus driver about stabbings etc, he eventually came and sat right next to me and asked me if had payed for my ticket, i told him it was none of his concern and he replied "oh yes it is" and showed me a Arriva uniform under his jacket. He then said if your paranoid don't worry about it, and went back to talk the driver.

If you are genuinely experiencing GS maybe ignore them or take their picture back. If you feel threatened do what you would normally do and alert an authority. As much as possible, act as you would normally act regardless of what they do. Your life still goes on as must ordinary experiences. Also some people are just generally crazy without being involved....everyone has a good touch of loopy. Infact, the number of people I see having major conversations with themselves or hitting themselves out on the streets seems to have increased. That's not even the major stuff and also has nothing to do with GS, so try not to jump to conclusions. Generally speaking those individuals who are asked to follow a target etc. aren't really the problem. Personally, only those who orchestrate this at the topmost levels are of interest to me, everyone else is being used whether they see that or not.

bealert
05-11-2009, 07:02 PM
good advice... at last someone with common sense.

peace111
06-11-2009, 04:21 PM
good advice... at last someone with common sense.

:) ...Be well

vetis
06-11-2009, 05:11 PM
Here's the thing...and it's quite important....I actually don't need to prove anything to 'you'. Although I most definitely can. But you are neither the true law of the land, or seemingly stand for it, or can make a difference to targets, or are even a sympathiser (judging by your hostile approach to me) so it would be pointless for me to even bother.

another of these attitudes..if you question me you dont deserve an answer. get your ego in check.

his approach was not hostile, just wanted more than you rambling on in order to make up his mind. that seems reasonable as a request. if it wasnt then we would all believe everything we get in the MSM.

if you werent looking to inform people it was happening who werent aware then what was the point of your post? the people who can make a difference..will know..the victims know..the sympathizers know so your post is aimed at who exactly??

also the categories you list cover a massive range of things, just about every kind of action that singles someone out..none of which needs to be organised and sustained by some higher organisation. happy slapping is almost always a one off event and work place bullying is usually by one person for example.

bealert
06-11-2009, 06:17 PM
another of these attitudes..if you question me you dont deserve an answer. get your ego in check.

his approach was not hostile, just wanted more than you rambling on in order to make up his mind. that seems reasonable as a request. if it wasnt then we would all believe everything we get in the MSM.

if you werent looking to inform people it was happening who werent aware then what was the point of your post? the people who can make a difference..will know..the victims know..the sympathizers know so your post is aimed at who exactly??

also the categories you list cover a massive range of things, just about every kind of action that singles someone out..none of which needs to be organised and sustained by some higher organisation. happy slapping is almost always a one off event and work place bullying is usually by one person for example.
Its not the event that makes someone believe there being gang stalked its the regularity of the events of which happen to ti's. As a non Ti you have no knowledge of the situation and you have no idea of the forced paranoia that put upon them. It usually takes years for a Ti to become aware of what's happening to them most of which cannot be proved. Coincidences happen to everyone but increased exposure to such events only increases paranoia...The way in which the brain related to patterns etc helps us in our every day life to learn and progress through experience.. Gang stalking exploits these patterns to make there victims paranoid obviously a great deal of research as been done by these people. Gang Stalking is about fear this is why there is a deterioration in the victims life because eventually we become immune to our fears so new ones have to found keep the fear growing within the victim. Each situation becoming worse as time goes on.

peace111
09-11-2009, 04:22 PM
another of these attitudes..if you question me you dont deserve an answer. get your ego in check.

his approach was not hostile, just wanted more than you rambling on in order to make up his mind. that seems reasonable as a request. if it wasnt then we would all believe everything we get in the MSM.

if you werent looking to inform people it was happening who werent aware then what was the point of your post? the people who can make a difference..will know..the victims know..the sympathizers know so your post is aimed at who exactly??

also the categories you list cover a massive range of things, just about every kind of action that singles someone out..none of which needs to be organised and sustained by some higher organisation. happy slapping is almost always a one off event and work place bullying is usually by one person for example.


You need anger management...you sound very hostile and unnecessary.

peace111
10-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Its not the event that makes someone believe there being gang stalked its the regularity of the events of which happen to ti's. As a non Ti you have no knowledge of the situation and you have no idea of the forced paranoia that put upon them. It usually takes years for a Ti to become aware of what's happening to them most of which cannot be proved. Coincidences happen to everyone but increased exposure to such events only increases paranoia...The way in which the brain related to patterns etc helps us in our every day life to learn and progress through experience.. Gang stalking exploits these patterns to make there victims paranoid obviously a great deal of research as been done by these people. Gang Stalking is about fear this is why there is a deterioration in the victims life because eventually we become immune to our fears so new ones have to found keep the fear growing within the victim. Each situation becoming worse as time goes on.

The strangest thing this week....2 individuals both with GS agenda were beating the life out of each other in a public display of rivalry, I assume. I think maybe one was supposed to stop trailing and let the other one continue but didn't...lol while I was standing right there and with clear earshot....fun but disturbing to watch grown men act like this. They are becoming more and more insane and useless :eek:

notthisshitagain
23-11-2009, 03:19 AM
You need anger management...you sound very hostile and unnecessary.

That's very funny cause that's exactly what I thought about you.

peace111
28-11-2009, 03:09 PM
Lol, just lol.