Depression?...or Ascension Symptoms

[tinmenace]

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A TV commercial for Cymbalta caught my attention. It was all about how depression hurts.






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But what seemed obvious to me, was that all the symptoms they were mentioning were also symptoms of ASCENSION!






THE SHAUMBRA SYMPTOMS


Twelve Signs of Your Awakening Divinity
By Geoffrey Hoppe and Tobias




Body aches and pains, especially in the neck, shoulder and back. This is the result of intense changes at your DNA level as the spiritual "seed" awakens within. This shall pass.

Feeling of deep inner sadness for no apparent reason. You are releasing your past (this lifetime and others) and this causes the feeling of sadness. This is similar to the experience of moving from a house where you lived in for many, many years into a new house. As much as you want to move into the new house, there is a sadness of leaving behind the memories, energy and experiences of the old house. This too shall pass.

Crying for no apparent reason. Similar to #2 above. It's good and healthy to let the tears flow. It helps to release the old energy within. This too shall pass.

Sudden change in job or career. A very common symptom. As you change, things around you will change as well. Don't worry about finding the "perfect" job or career right now. This too shall pass. You're in transition and you may make several job changes before you settle into one that fits your passion.

Withdrawal from family relationships. You are connected to your biological family via old karma. When you get off the karmic cycle, the bonds of the old relationships are released. It will appear as though you are drifting away from your family and friends. This too shall pass.

After a period of time, you may develop a new relationship with them if it is appropriate. However, the relationship will be based in the new energy without the karmic attachments.

Unusual sleep patterns. It's likely that you'll awaken many nights between 2:00 - 4:00 AM. There's a lot of work going on within you, and it often causes you to wake up for a "breather." Not to worry. If you can't go back to sleep, get up and do something rather than lay in bed and worry about humanly things. This too shall pass.

Intense dreams. These might include war and battle dreams, chase dreams or monster dreams. You are literally releasing the old energy within, and these energies of the past are often symbolized as wars, running to escape and boogiemen. This too shall pass.

Physical disorientation. At times you'll feel very ungrounded. You'll be "spatially challenged" with the feeling like you can't put two feet on the ground, or that you're walking between two worlds. As your consciousness transitions into the new energy, you body sometimes lags behind. Spend more time in nature to help ground the new energy within. This too shall pass.

Increased "self talk." You'll find yourself talking to your Self more often. You'll suddenly realize you've been chattering away with yourself for the past 30 minutes. There is a new level of communication taking place within your being, and you're experiencing the tip of the iceberg with the self talk. The conversations will increase, and they will become more fluid, more coherent and more insightful. You're not going crazy, you're just Shaumbra moving into the new energy.

Feelings of loneliness, even when in the company of others. You may feel alone and removed from others. You may feel the desire to "flee" groups and crowds. As Shaumbra, you are walking a sacred and lonely path. As much as the feelings of loneliness cause you anxiety, it is difficult to relate to others at this time. The feelings of loneliness are also associated with the fact that your Guides have departed. They have been with you on all of your journeys in all of your lifetimes. It was time for them to back away so you could fill your space with your own divinity. This too shall pass. The void within will be filled with the love and energy of your own spiritual consciousness.

Loss of passion. You may feel totally disimpassioned, with little or no desire to do anything. That's OK, and it's just part of the process. Take this time to "do no-thing." Don't fight yourself on this, because this too shall pass. It's similar to rebooting a computer. You need to shut down for a brief period of time in order to load the sophisticated new software, or in this case, the new "seed" energy.

A deep longing to go Home. This is perhaps the most difficult and challenging of any of the conditions. You may experience a deep and overwhelming desire to leave the planet and return to Home. This is not a "suicidal" feeling. It is not based in anger or frustration. You don't want to make a big deal of it or cause drama for yourself or others. There is a quiet part of you that wants to go Home. The root cause for this is quite simple. You have completed your karmic cycles. You have completed your contract for this lifetime. You are ready to begin a new lifetime while still in this physical body. During this transition process, you have an inner remembrances of what it is like to be on the other side. Are you ready to enlist for another tour of duty here on Earth? Are you ready to take on the challenges of moving into the New Energy? Yes, indeed you could go Home right now. But you've come this far, and after many, many lifetimes it would be a shame to leave before the end of the movie. Besides, Spirit needs you here to help others transition into the new energy. They will need a human guide, just like you, who has taken the journey from the old energy into the new. The path you're walking right now provides the experiences to enable you to become a Teacher of the New Divine Human. As lonely and dark as your journey can be at times, remember that you are never alone.




Source (http://www.manataka.org/page91.html)






Cymbalta is made by the loomie company ELI LILLY in InDIANA (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172)



The pharmaceutical company produces the controversial vaccine preservative called Thimerosal which is 49.6% mercury. Parents of autistic children claim this preservative has caused autism in thousands of children. Isn’t it interesting that a last minute provision to the Homeland Security Act, which was signed into law on 11/25/2002, blocks all lawsuits against Eli Lilly in this matter. I fail to see what this has to do with Homeland Security.

Eli Lilly is the manufacturer of Prozac, Cialis, Strattera and distributes Methadone. Prominent past and current board members include:
• George H.W. Bush (needs no introduction).
• Ernesto Bustamante (Fellow of the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation and received the Breast Cancer Concept Award by the U.S. Department of Defense. (I have no idea what Breast Cancer and the Department of Defense are doing in the same sentence).
• George W. Bush through his Office of Management and Budget.
• Michael Johns, former White House speechwriter.
• Martin Feldstein, was being considered as a replacement for Alan Greenspan upon his Greenspan’s retirement.
• Kenneth Lay (remember Enron?)
• William Verity Jr., U.S. Secretary of Commerce to Reagan
• Mitch Daniels, current governor of Indiana (nasty piece of work which I will outline further down).

I could go on and on about the scum that festers in and around this company, but I suggest you do the research yourself. You’ll be astounded! I was astounded just to see who was on the board of this company.

Before moving on to Eli Lilly, the man, after whom this company was named, I’d like to give you a brief outline of Mitch Daniels, the current governor of Indiana and Eli Lilly board member;

MITCH DANIELS
He served as a senior advisor to Ronald Reagan’s staff and the administration’s liaison to the nation’s state and local officials. Later he served as the director of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation which helps U.S. companies invest overseas. Kinda like Halliburton just did. Remember I mentioned earlier that Eli Lilly couldn’t be sued, thanks to a last minute provision into the Homeland Security Act? Mitch Daniels was a key player in that incident. He was also a member of the National Security Council and Homeland Security Council.

These are the people developing and marketing anti-depressants for adults and children. Poisoning children with mercury vaccines and bending the laws to protect themselves at the cost of the everyday person.



Isn't it obvious that the dark energies, that have the MOST to lose (their energy source) want to inhibit our ascension to higher vibrational realms (where they cannot reach us) are attempting to poison us? So many people are experiencing these symptoms and these fuckers are telling us it's treatable with their very special brew of inhibitors!



You're not depressed! You're ascending!!



Read the Ascension Process (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883) thread by Lapis (especially the latest ascension alert by Karen Bishop because there is a very very important window of opportunity coming up...pay attention people!)

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[tinmenace]

I'm not kidding!

Antidepressants - Most prescribed drug!


THREAD HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5917)


Some even have PESTICIDES in them - Info Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27310&postcount=18)

The depression will pass. This will all pass, but don't touch their poison.
Take plenty of Vitamin B-Complex, drink good clean water and rest well.
Be good to yourself, but do not take the quick fix. Please...

[eternal_spirit]

I'm not kidding!

Antidepressants - Most prescribed drug!


THREAD HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5917)


Some even have PESTICIDES in them - Info Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27310&postcount=18)

The depression will pass. This will all pass, but don't touch their poison.
Take plenty of Vitamin B-Complex, drink good clean water and rest well.
Be good to yourself, but do not take the quick fix. Please...




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[megafish33]

"Depression" as a disorder is defined in the DSM-IV. Depression can be part of a normal cycle of life. For example, you won't be clinically depressed a week after your friend dies, because it's normal for you to grieve.

To be diagnosed with a mental disorder a doctor will check to see if four key criteria are met. And remember, humans are complex, so just because you fit these criteria doesn't necessarily mean you need pharmaceutical medications.

First, is the behavior or thinking atypical or statistically infrequent? Obviously, not all statistically infrequent behavior in our society is abnormal. Some people like to do extreme sports where their lives are endangered every time... this is atypical, but does not make one ill. Having hallucinations, however, can reflect a disorder... according to this body of knowledge.

Second, is the behavior or thinking maladaptive? Does it prevent the person from successfully functioning and adapting to life's demands?

Third, is the person in question, or others around him/her, distressed by the particular behavior of thinking? Again, this in itself doesn't make you "depressed." Singing songs for money at the train station is atypical. Say the song singer doesn't even make any money doing it. If he isn't disturbed by this, nor are others around him, he is not considered disordered.

Fourth, is the behavior or thinking rational? A fear of birds so strong that you wont leave your house is no rational. If this causes anxiety, this is probably a symptom of something. Even, "little" things like this can cause a cascade of physical troubles.

Kundalini yoga practicer's can cause many symptoms that are atypical, disturbing and what not, but it doesn't necessarily mean they are depressed.


There is also evidence that many anti-depression medications can increase risk of osteoporosis and can sometimes worsen manic symptoms in people with bipolar disorder.

[rasnalgoul]

tinmenace, thanks for posting that. Ive had 'depression' once, it was similar to what Im experiencing now, but not at all the same. Ive been wondering whats been going on with me for the past week or two. Im having those symptoms, and its made me all mixed up. Ive been in a place where Im having to question myself alot so even when Im convinced that I must be vibrating higher, or ascending I always second guess and wonder If Im just shriveling into nothing. After reading your post though, I can be pretty sure that I might be ascending, or atleast at the beginning stages of it. How long does this process take?

[tinmenace]

tinmenace, thanks for posting that. Ive had 'depression' once, it was similar to what Im experiencing now, but not at all the same. Ive been wondering whats been going on with me for the past week or two. Im having those symptoms, and its made me all mixed up. Ive been in a place where Im having to question myself alot so even when Im convinced that I must be vibrating higher, or ascending I always second guess and wonder If Im just shriveling into nothing. After reading your post though, I can be pretty sure that I might be ascending, or atleast at the beginning stages of it. How long does this process take?

We have a ways to go.

Please read the latest Ascension information by Karen Bishop HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=113305&postcount=100)

You can also go to the beginning of the thread HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883), and read what's been happening the last few months. You will notice that those hopelessly (and hideously) attached to the 3D trappings are having a hard time, and it's going to get worse as their ways fall away and the new moves in. September 11th is very important, please read it the info on the first link carefully.

[lottie]

good digging tin,

reminds me of the Seroxat (Paroxetine) scandal we had in the uk a few yrs ago, Glaxo-Smith-Kline make it!

From The Daily Mail ; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=432217&in_page_id=1774
A drugs firm covered up vital evidence about the safety of an anti-depressant linked to a string of suicides, it was claimed last night.

Seroxat was taken by an estimated 50,000 British youngsters before being banned for patients under 18 in 2003.

But scrutiny of thousands of documents and e-mails from manufacturer GlaxoSmithKline revealed it had fears about the drug's safety years earlier.

But GSK, which makes £1billion a year from Seroxat, continued to promote it for youngsters, documents obtained by BBC's Panorama reveal.

Since it was first prescribed in Britain in 1990, it has been linked to at least 50 suicides of adults and children in the UK.

British experts said the continued prescription of Seroxat led to young people’s deaths. Charles Medawar, of pharmaceutical watchdog Social Audit, said more transparency by GSK would have "no doubt saved a number of lives".

The investigation revealed three key documents among thousands released for a U.S. court case brought by bereaved families.

One from GSK’s marketing department in 1999 refers to side-effects, adding: "It seems incongruous that we state [the drug] is safe yet report so many serious adverse effects."

In 2001, the firm still claimed it was safe, telling sales staff it showed "remarkable safety and efficacy in the treatment of adolescent depression".

And an e-mail from a PR executive admits research showed it did not work on teenage depression. It says: "Essentially, the study did not really show it was effective in treating adolescent depression, which is not something we want to publicise."

Sophie Corlett, of mental health charity Mind, said: "GSK appears to have been playing Russian roulette with the lives of young people."

And Barbara Herts, of children's mental health charity Young Minds, said: "The allegations suggest companies are putting profit ahead of the safety of young people."

Pam Armstrong, of the Council for Information on Tranquillisers and Anti-Depressants, said: "I cannot understand that so many people in one company could feel it was okay to do nothing. When you are looking at the possibility of children being affected it is reprehensible."

Seroxat – also known as paroxetine – alters levels of mood-regulating chemicals in the brain.

It was given to children as young as six by doctors who called it a "wonder drug".

But young patients began to commit suicide as their parents told how the children had mood swings, nightmares and personality changes.

It was not until 2004 that GSK published full details of studies from as early as 1993 showing children on Seroxat were twice as likely to feel suicidal as those on a dummy pill.

Karen Barth Menzies, a lawyer in the U.S. case, said: "Even when they have negative studies that show Seroxat is going to harm some kids, they still spin that study as remarkably effective and safe for children."

Last year, GSK warned the drug could also cause adults to feel suicidal.

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But it is still being used by hundreds of thousands of British adults.

GSK, which is being investigated by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority and sued by British patients, said there were no child suicides in trials.

Only when data from nine studies was collated did a suicide link emerge.

It said: "GSK has always been strongly conscious of the duty it owes the millions of patients who suffer from depression and refutes any allegation it has failed in its duty."


I watched the documentary at the time about a few of the children who had committed suicide and how their families are trying to investigate GSK, but they'll admit to nothing! They're all just as bad as each other, GSK are extremely dodgy in my opinion!

[tinmenace]

good digging tin,

reminds me of the Seroxat (Paroxetine) scandal we had in the uk a few yrs ago, Glaxo-Smith-Kline make it!

From The Daily Mail ; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=432217&in_page_id=1774


I watched the documentary at the time about a few of the children who had committed suicide and how their families are trying to investigate GSK, but they'll admit to nothing! They're all just as bad as each other, GSK are extremely dodgy in my opinion!


It's absolutely a way to keep us trapped because it blocks us from our higher selves.


Another anti-depressant:
Tetrabenazine – VMAT inhibitor

This is very interesting indeed. What is VMAT? Well, it’s a gene and it has been identified as relating to spirituality and religion as concluded in a study by the National Cancer Institute. This poison called Tetrabenazine is a VMAT inhibitor, so in other words it suppresses your spirit…your consciousness.

Thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5917)


They are inhibiting our spirituality!

[kha zarr]

can you just briefly explain what vmat stands for?

i used to be on that prozac crap unfortunately.

how much or how long does it keep one there? Its been maybe 12 years since I was perscribed [on] it, i was 14 or 15 - only on half dose for maybe 2 yrs - actually it was for anxiety if you can believe it. yeah, anxiety. mom and dad were annoyed by my weird behavior and made me get on it, yet they werent sure obviously they were convinced by the 'shrink'. Fortunately after some time I kinda sorta woke up to its messing w/me and weaned myself off over the course of about half a year.

isnt that stuff in water runoff or something? i forget where I heard that.

'course i eat a bit better now and not on any medications at all for at least 10 years [well, 'cept the herb] but rarely smoke.

i always believed and it makes sense, to reach a higher level is work and you wont feel happy before you get there, you might feel encumbered. Modern medicine is pretty much about masking things - but if those perscribing these things actually KNOW what it does - or what it doesnt - do, then I would feel kinda angry about it. The issue becomes bigger also b/c, too much kundalini rising up isnt too good for you either - or Ive heard anyways.

Anyway, is there any way to determine how much damage they've done? This is something I worry about sometimes. Maybe b/c I'm very lazy meditator - I can go deep [at least, what I think is deep - seeing a light, almost projecting but not, feeling a little dizzy {its usu my aim to project but I cant get myself to do it, its like a brick wall}] and I still rarely bring myself to do it.

anyway isnt projecting to your higher self pretty hard to do? i thought intentions have to be totally pure to be admitted to it, which isnt easy?

[lottie]

Vesicular Monoamine Transporter Protein

Wow just wiki'd it.....not heard this before....

"God gene"
A study by the National Cancer Institute on over 200 subjects (including twins), has identified the VMAT2 gene to correlate to spirituality and religion. It was led by the geneticist Dean Hamer.[1][2]

[lottie]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/14/ngod14.xml

[tinmenace]

Vesicular Monoamine Transporter Protein

Wow just wiki'd it.....not heard this before....

"God gene"
A study by the National Cancer Institute on over 200 subjects (including twins), has identified the VMAT2 gene to correlate to spirituality and religion. It was led by the geneticist Dean Hamer.[1][2]

Thanks Lottie :)

Yes, the god gene! Can you believe it? And this particular anti-depressant, Tetrabenazine, inhibits the function of the gene.

Other anti-depressants have PESTICIDES in them!

And, when you see that demons like GHWB and GWB sit/sat on the board of directors for Eli Lilly, doesn't it become obvious what these reptilians are up to?

Here is a TIME magazine (http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101041025/) article on the god gene. I'm not vouching for the info therein, just interesting reading for those interested.

[mcmenek1]

Thats a great observation tinmenace well done :)....... they are trying to hijack the ascension process thats for sure....... "The Powers That Be" understand the significance of September 11th and the higher energies that surround that date..... thats why they have tried to counteract these positive energies by carrying out 9/11......they are trying to condition people to associate that date with negativity to stop them connecting with higher energies......

Like you say September 11th is a very important date and we should be ready to embrace the higher energies that will be available to us at that time......

Thanks for posting.....:)

Love
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Peace

[tinmenace]

Thats a great observation tinmenace well done :)....... they are trying to hijack the ascension process thats for sure....... "The Powers That Be" understand the significance of September 11th and the higher energies that surround that date..... thats why they have tried to counteract these positive energies by carrying out 9/11......they are trying to condition people to associate that date with negativity to stop them connecting with higher energies......

Like you say September 11th is a very important date and we should be ready to embrace the higher energies that will be available to us at that time......

Thanks for posting.....:)

Love
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Peace

Thank you! :)

And thank you for pointing out their attempts to condition us to always perceive September 11th as a negative.

[kha zarr]

cool thanx :)

[limelady]

Wonderful thread tin!

I've been trying to find the time to start a similar thread myself, but thankfully you have got the ball rolling!.

The other substances people ought to consider eliminating from their lives due to their 'ascention inhibiting traits' (because they affect brain function and higher thinking etc) are of course MSG (toxic food additive), Mercury (fish, dental fillings mainly), Aspartame (neuro-toxin), aluminum (deodorants and cookware),fluoride (toothpase & drinking water) and good old fashioned chlorine (water).

It has been shown that when combined, chlorine and flouride hammers the pineal gland, which is associated with 'higher' thinking, psychic ability, intuition and spirituality.

[megafish33]

It has been shown that when combined, chlorine and flouride hammers the pineal gland, which is associated with 'higher' thinking, psychic ability, intuition and spirituality.

Yeah... it's 'funny' how all of these targeted ingredients find their way into the goods that are mass consumed in Western civilization. This is absurd. They plan on making vitamins prescription medicines now... THAT is a symptom of paranoia... so the question is, why are they paranoid and afraid of us? ;)

[tinmenace]

Yeah... it's 'funny' how all of these targeted ingredients find their way into the goods that are mass consumed in Western civilization. This is absurd. They plan on making vitamins prescription medicines now... THAT is a symptom of paranoia... so the question is, why are they paranoid and afraid of us? ;)

They think they can stop this vibrational change, but they can't. Pathetic indeed!

[tinmenace]

Wonderful thread tin!

I've been trying to find the time to start a similar thread myself, but thankfully you have got the ball rolling!.

The other substances people ought to consider eliminating from their lives due to their 'ascention inhibiting traits' (because they affect brain function and higher thinking etc) are of course MSG (toxic food additive), Mercury (fish, dental fillings mainly), Aspartame (neuro-toxin), aluminum (deodorants and cookware),fluoride (toothpase & drinking water) and good old fashioned chlorine (water).

It has been shown that when combined, chlorine and flouride hammers the pineal gland, which is associated with 'higher' thinking, psychic ability, intuition and spirituality.


Thanks Lime :)

And thanks for pointing out the other things to look out for because it is a cocktail of chemicals. Something for everyone.

[i_am]

It's absolutely a way to keep us trapped because it blocks us from our higher selves.



They are inhibiting our spirituality!



Exactly tin :)

I said the same thing in the Stop eating food thread :p

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8845

No I don't believe we are paranoid. All of these things are used to keep us in a zombie like state and dull our senses, keep us in the 5 sense reality and not tap into our higher state.

[tinmenace]

Exactly tin :)

I said the same thing in the Stop eating food thread :p

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8845

Yeah, isn't it interesting that they ban vitamin B17 because of possible side-effects, when it's used as Cancer treatment in other countries. The extent of their desperation is laughable!

But it's all changing...their time is up. :):):):)

[rasnalgoul]

the thing is with this ascension, im only 20 yrs old. I feel like there things I should have experienced and I havent. The idea of being memoryless it just seems so pointless, I mean some memories are sad, and hurtful but others bring back great joy, and that warm feeling. I just dont know right now, I dont know what to trust and Im in a tight squeeze right now.

[tinmenace]

the thing is with this ascension, im only 20 yrs old. I feel like there things I should have experienced and I havent. The idea of being memoryless it just seems so pointless, I mean some memories are sad, and hurtful but others bring back great joy, and that warm feeling. I just dont know right now, I dont know what to trust and Im in a tight squeeze right now.

Only you know what is right for you. :)

[rasnalgoul]

i think i do now

[orgo knight]

Let's not forget those pesky chemtrails grrrrr :mad::mad::mad:

[megafish33]

the thing is with this ascension, im only 20 yrs old. I feel like there things I should have experienced and I havent. The idea of being memoryless it just seems so pointless, I mean some memories are sad, and hurtful but others bring back great joy, and that warm feeling. I just dont know right now, I dont know what to trust and Im in a tight squeeze right now.

Don't be memoryless. Try to establish a time to cleanse though... Look into meditation. There's a book by a doctor called Meditation as Medicine, go check it out, it has some nice ones. There is one you can do in the morning before you get up and get into your routine. Or whenever you have time.

Death is also cleansing. But you don't have to die to experience good rest. Sleep is fractional death. Think of it as if you're if you're the Phoenix of legends. Observe the natural cycle of things. Look up sleeping and how to get better sleep, when the times your body rejuvenates are, and if there are any supplements of medicines to help you fall asleep that don't affect REM sleep. Try going to bed early for a few nights... make it your own personal religion and ritual for you to enjoy. Make rest your bodies comfort food. Just remember to never sleep more than nine hours. Log any dreams.

Trust yourself and tell the tight squeeze to fuck off and leave you alone.

[thoth]

Thanks Lime :)

And thanks for pointing out the other things to look out for because it is a cocktail of chemicals. Something for everyone.

As always, keep up the good work. They are attacking our vital energy sources within our bodies. They know exactly about our consciousness rising.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/drugsmedicine.jpg

[lottie]

Brilliant!!! Thats exactly what it boils down to.....one little cartoon says it all!!!:D

[cruise4]

I have the odd depressive feelings now and again these days... but I AM imagining them as Lizzie induced and telling my feelings to F off, they are invading my free will, they have no permission, get out and stay out.

Now I am not a believer in this exactly... but it provides a focus for removal that is working for me. I can change my emotional state withing 30 seconds via this technique.

Your Will is a weapon. Use it.

PS. Get of the meds. like Prozac etc. anyway you can.

[tinmenace]

The ascension symptoms are difficult for me sometimes. I'm highly sensitive. For those of you that struggle sometimes, I want to reiterate, once again, the importance of Vitamin B-Complex. I don't have the studies and medical proof of anything, so please don't ask me for it, all I know is that it works for me and the people around me because we're LIVING it.

When I skip a day of Vitamin B-Complex, it feels as though something is creeping up on me. It reminds me sort of like a crouching dog-like creature, all snarling and dangerous. It's quite a hopeless feeling. So, in order to ward off these sensations which I'm sensitive to anyway, so that I can focus my energy elsewhere, I NEVER skip a day of B-Complex.

For those of you that could do with a bit of help, ESPECIALLY now right before 9/11 and its magnificent window of ascension opportunity, go out right now, and get yourself a high quality B-Complex.

[pollock]

The ascension symptoms are difficult for me sometimes. I'm highly sensitive. For those of you that struggle sometimes, I want to reiterate, once again, the importance of Vitamin B-Complex. I don't have the studies and medical proof of anything, so please don't ask me for it, all I know is that it works for me and the people around me because we're LIVING it.

When I skip a day of Vitamin B-Complex, it feels as though something is creeping up on me. It reminds me sort of like a crouching dog-like creature, all snarling and dangerous. It's quite a hopeless feeling. So, in order to ward off these sensations which I'm sensitive to anyway, so that I can focus my energy elsewhere, I NEVER skip a day of B-Complex.

For those of you that could do with a bit of help, ESPECIALLY now right before 9/11 and its magnificent window of ascension opportunity, go out right now, and get yourself a high quality B-Complex.




Oh, tin, I know all about that snarling creature:o
Im going out next week to get my vitamin B's and see if it helps, Its quite energy stealing to have to ward of!


Love
F

[tinmenace]

Oh, tin, I know all about that snarling creature:o
Im going out next week to get my vitamin B's and see if it helps, Its quite energy stealing to have to ward of!


Love
F

You will feel like a different person. I absolutely guarantee it. :)

Hugs
Tin :)

[pollock]

You will feel like a different person. I absolutely guarantee it. :)

Hugs
Tin :)





Thank you sweet one, btw I am having some major energy boosts today, with rushes up and down my spine and a light headed feeling!
Anyone else feeling special energies tha last couple of days?

Brrr
F

[tinmenace]

Thank you sweet one, btw I am having some major energy boosts today, with rushes up and down my spine and a light headed feeling!
Anyone else feeling special energies tha last couple of days?

Brrr
F

OMG Yay! That's so great and I'm thrilled for you! Nope, I've just had a sensation that feels a lot like palpitations, but in the core of my body, from top to bottom. Very weird.

[lost soul]

Hi I am a new member having started looking at this information aprox a year ago and found it totally awesome and all seemed to make sense.However sometime after I became ill with what was desrcibed as depression although my symptoms in my opinion were not typically those usually assosciated with clinical depression and went a lot further.I eventually through research came up with DEPERSONALISATION DISORDER as the most suitble tag for my condition.A year on I still experience these symptoms but have learned to accept these.My question is does anyone know how close this illness is to enlightenment as I sometimes I believe I am somehow stuck in between.

[tinmenace]

Hi I am a new member having started looking at this information aprox a year ago and found it totally awesome and all seemed to make sense.However sometime after I became ill with what was desrcibed as depression although my symptoms in my opinion were not typically those usually assosciated with clinical depression and went a lot further.I eventually through research came up with DEPERSONALISATION DISORDER as the most suitble tag for my condition.A year on I still experience these symptoms but have learned to accept these.My question is does anyone know how close this illness is to enlightenment as I sometimes I believe I am somehow stuck in between.



Wow, I've never heard of that condition. I wouldn't really know how to answer your question. The only thing I can offer is a thread about ascension that helped me a lot. HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883).

See if any of the info, including the links, rings true for you.

[delamo1999]

How long is this supposed to last? I have supposedly been suffering most of these "ascention" symptions for over 20 years. I don't go to doctors anymore because they all want to put me on head meds. I have known intuitively that these "meds" are indeed poison; I have also felt that there was something very wrong with them even though I did not know why.

Is there anything I can do to assist myself with this process? Someone mentioned crystal therapy.

[pleasuredome]

How long is this supposed to last?


good question. if 'just around the corner' is 50 years away, then it isn't much help. i hope this ascension theory isn't just wishful thinking.

[char]

I went on a 100% organic, vegan, raw, Livng Foods diet four years ago and that has helped tremendously with the body pains. I also drink fresh green juice made with celery, cucumber, wild and garden grown greens, daily. I am extremely sensitive, too, and chemicals will still trigger a reaction. Most interior environments are too toxic for me to be in for any period of time. Yoga helps with staying grounded and unwinding cellular memory.

I have been experiencing the other symptoms described in the Ascension theory and have found this thread most interesting. Thanks!

[tinmenace]

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/icon_bump.gif

[shellygurrrl]

Fascinating reading.

[eternal_spirit]

Quote:Tinmenace

10 Feelings of loneliness, even when in the company of others. You may feel alone and removed from others. You may feel the desire to "flee" groups and crowds. As Shaumbra, you are walking a sacred and lonely path. As much as the feelings of loneliness cause you anxiety, it is difficult to relate to others at this time. The feelings of loneliness are also associated with the fact that your Guides have departed. They have been with you on all of your journeys in all of your lifetimes. It was time for them to back away so you could fill your space with your own divinity. This too shall pass. The void within will be filled with the love and energy of your own spiritual consciousness.
.................

Okay, let's take a word from point 10 (Shaumbra) What does this word mean?

http://crimsoncircle.com/Portals/0/Containers/cc_Container/arr_ttl1.gif
Shaumbra Institute Welcome to the UCOL-CENTER FOR ENLIGHTENMENT.


The Virtual Home for Master Guide "Dakon" of the Crimson Council and Sariniela & Anjuriel, from the Order of The Arch. Our newest member of The Team we shall call Nephurius, a very large Being from the Circle beyond the 7th Dimension.

Our Mission Statement is, "Devoted to the Ascension of the Divine Human".

Dakon is the Director of the activities here at the UCOL-CENTER. He calls in other members from time to time to join our team from the Councils of Light and the Order of The Arch. Archangels Zadkiel, Gabriel, Raphael & Uriel have supported much of our work to date. Please visit our website for more information.

Some of the Services being offered are;
* Personal Sessions.
* Monthly Channels from Master Guide Dakon, Nephurius, Sariniela and Anjuriel.
* Monthly e-Newsletter “Enlightened Times” which include channels from Dakon and the other members of our Team.
* Empowering, Transformational & Healing classes.
* Occasionally we have a guest Teacher drop in as well.

For a complete list of services and up-coming schedule please visit us at website. Look for "Dakon" and Wendy-Marie's new book "HEALING INTO MASTERY", "A Journey Back to Self, A Journey Back to Love" to be published in the near future (watch for the announcement

Mark and White Eagle - Jonette Crowley
Welcome to the Center for Creative Consciousness on the web! We have tools and inspiration to assist your personal journey of spiritual growth and enlightenment. We hope these articles, tapes and events will be useful to you. For the past 13 years, Jonette Crowley has been providing spiritual services with her guides "White Eagle" and "Mark"; both are masterful beings of the White Brotherhood. Jonette offers a wide variety of services, including meditation courses on tape, spiritual guidance, phone channeling sessions, weekend seminars, even spiritual tours and weekly meditation groups that are available live in Denver. See Jonette's website for more information.


http://crimsoncircle.com/Directory/Channelers/tabid/145/Default.aspx



http://crimsoncircle.com/ShaumbraInstitute/tabid/298/Default.aspx

(This is what I think) New Age curtousy of the "Culture creators" paid and promoted by the Ruling Elite and their loomie lackys. It's a con. The Great White Brotherhood as mentioned from the link....is the same as the ascended master souls of discarnate entities that the Theosophists, Masons claimed to have channeled. It's Blavatsky, enhanced.



Thinking they're channeling aliens from Planet Zog, or divine spirits? When in fact they're having thoughts, voices beamed into their minds, by man made electronic devices. Or hypnotic suggestions. The latter would of been how the ancient channelings of religous books came to be. Or a man throwing his voice, hiding in the Temple, the one hearing the channeled messages ( under the influence of hallucanogenic drugs, herbs etc. ) Would think they where talking to God, or some divine spirit.

[celtic isis]

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A TV commercial for Cymbalta caught my attention. It was all about how depression hurts.






http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cymbalta.jpg






But what seemed obvious to me, was that all the symptoms they were mentioning were also symptoms of ASCENSION!











Cymbalta is made by the loomie company ELI LILLY in InDIANA (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172)






Isn't it obvious that the dark energies, that have the MOST to lose (their energy source) want to inhibit our ascension to higher vibrational realms (where they cannot reach us) are attempting to poison us? So many people are experiencing these symptoms and these fuckers are telling us it's treatable with their very special brew of inhibitors!



You're not depressed! You're ascending!!



Read the Ascension Process (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883) thread by Lapis (especially the latest ascension alert by Karen Bishop because there is a very very important window of opportunity coming up...pay attention people!)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/afrodance.gif





fook me i do all of this! :eek:

really, some are signs of ascension, or even just part of the awakening process?

that's really fascinating stuff!
this i mean it didn't come up in me post!

THE SHAUMBRA SYMPTOMS


Twelve Signs of Your Awakening Divinity
By Geoffrey Hoppe and Tobias




Body aches and pains, especially in the neck, shoulder and back. This is the result of intense changes at your DNA level as the spiritual "seed" awakens within. This shall pass.

Feeling of deep inner sadness for no apparent reason. You are releasing your past (this lifetime and others) and this causes the feeling of sadness. This is similar to the experience of moving from a house where you lived in for many, many years into a new house. As much as you want to move into the new house, there is a sadness of leaving behind the memories, energy and experiences of the old house. This too shall pass.

Crying for no apparent reason. Similar to #2 above. It's good and healthy to let the tears flow. It helps to release the old energy within. This too shall pass.

Sudden change in job or career. A very common symptom. As you change, things around you will change as well. Don't worry about finding the "perfect" job or career right now. This too shall pass. You're in transition and you may make several job changes before you settle into one that fits your passion.

Withdrawal from family relationships. You are connected to your biological family via old karma. When you get off the karmic cycle, the bonds of the old relationships are released. It will appear as though you are drifting away from your family and friends. This too shall pass.

After a period of time, you may develop a new relationship with them if it is appropriate. However, the relationship will be based in the new energy without the karmic attachments.

Unusual sleep patterns. It's likely that you'll awaken many nights between 2:00 - 4:00 AM. There's a lot of work going on within you, and it often causes you to wake up for a "breather." Not to worry. If you can't go back to sleep, get up and do something rather than lay in bed and worry about humanly things. This too shall pass.

Intense dreams. These might include war and battle dreams, chase dreams or monster dreams. You are literally releasing the old energy within, and these energies of the past are often symbolized as wars, running to escape and boogiemen. This too shall pass.

Physical disorientation. At times you'll feel very ungrounded. You'll be "spatially challenged" with the feeling like you can't put two feet on the ground, or that you're walking between two worlds. As your consciousness transitions into the new energy, you body sometimes lags behind. Spend more time in nature to help ground the new energy within. This too shall pass.

Increased "self talk." You'll find yourself talking to your Self more often. You'll suddenly realize you've been chattering away with yourself for the past 30 minutes. There is a new level of communication taking place within your being, and you're experiencing the tip of the iceberg with the self talk. The conversations will increase, and they will become more fluid, more coherent and more insightful. You're not going crazy, you're just Shaumbra moving into the new energy.

Feelings of loneliness, even when in the company of others. You may feel alone and removed from others. You may feel the desire to "flee" groups and crowds. As Shaumbra, you are walking a sacred and lonely path. As much as the feelings of loneliness cause you anxiety, it is difficult to relate to others at this time. The feelings of loneliness are also associated with the fact that your Guides have departed. They have been with you on all of your journeys in all of your lifetimes. It was time for them to back away so you could fill your space with your own divinity. This too shall pass. The void within will be filled with the love and energy of your own spiritual consciousness.

Loss of passion. You may feel totally disimpassioned, with little or no desire to do anything. That's OK, and it's just part of the process. Take this time to "do no-thing." Don't fight yourself on this, because this too shall pass. It's similar to rebooting a computer. You need to shut down for a brief period of time in order to load the sophisticated new software, or in this case, the new "seed" energy.

just lately with this one...the loss of passion i mean...hence i haven't been about here much either...

A deep longing to go Home. This is perhaps the most difficult and challenging of any of the conditions. You may experience a deep and overwhelming desire to leave the planet and return to Home. This is not a "suicidal" feeling. It is not based in anger or frustration. You don't want to make a big deal of it or cause drama for yourself or others. There is a quiet part of you that wants to go Home. The root cause for this is quite simple. You have completed your karmic cycles. You have completed your contract for this lifetime. You are ready to begin a new lifetime while still in this physical body. During this transition process, you have an inner remembrances of what it is like to be on the other side. Are you ready to enlist for another tour of duty here on Earth? Are you ready to take on the challenges of moving into the New Energy? Yes, indeed you could go Home right now. But you've come this far, and after many, many lifetimes it would be a shame to leave before the end of the movie. Besides, Spirit needs you here to help others transition into the new energy. They will need a human guide, just like you, who has taken the journey from the old energy into the new. The path you're walking right now provides the experiences to enable you to become a Teacher of the New Divine Human. As lonely and dark as your journey can be at times, remember that you are never alone.



Source

[tinmenace]

Reiteration



Another anti-depressant:
Tetrabenazine – VMAT inhibitor

This is very interesting indeed. What is VMAT? Well, it’s a gene and it has been identified as relating to spirituality and religion as concluded in a study by the National Cancer Institute (the so-called god-gene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene)). This poison called Tetrabenazine is a VMAT inhibitor, so in other words it suppresses your spirit…your consciousness.

THREAD (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5917)




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You're depression is part of the ascension symptoms. Don't allow anyone to poison you with drugs that dull your spirituality. Take a good Vitamin B instead!

Consider this info:



"Your nervous system is the KEY to opening your ancient eyes"

Read more HERE (http://spiritual-nature.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=40&topic=130.msg1238#msg1238)

[celtic isis]

Reiteration




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You're depression is part of the ascension symptoms. Don't allow anyone to poison you with drugs that dull your spirituality. Take a good Vitamin B instead!

Consider this info:



Read more HERE (http://spiritual-nature.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=40&topic=130.msg1238#msg1238)




kool hehe :)

i guess that's why us sensitive souls end up on this road sooner than most, we feel things more or are more in touch with our feelings and/or nature etc...very interesting tin :)

i feel better now:)

[tinmenace]

I'm glad to hear that, Celtic Isis :)

[celtic isis]

I'm glad to hear that, Celtic Isis :)

:)

[shellygurrrl]

I have always felt lonely. This is very interesting.

[tinmenace]

I have always felt lonely. This is very interesting.

Interesting. Me too, up until a few years ago.

Did you read the Ascension Process (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883) thread?

[shellygurrrl]

Interesting. Me too, up until a few years ago.

Did you read the Ascension Process (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883) thread?
Yes, it is fascinating. I feel I can so relate to it.

[tinmenace]

Yes, it is fascinating. I feel I can so relate to it.

That's excellent news, sweetie! It's not easy, but you're not alone.

[tinmenace]

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/icon_bump.gif

[shellygurrrl]

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/icon_bump.gif

Aw, just yesterday yet seems like longer!

Muah!:D

[cyberdaemon]

funny thing is i got nearly all of these symptoms :D

[neil]

All very familiar feelings to me. I'm currently reconnecting to early childhood experiences of awakening (OBEs, ever-tingling crown chakra, etc.) after years of undiagnosed depression.

Just for information and to share, my current state of mind has similar facets to what I term negative depression (all the things mentioned by Celtic Isis, in fact!) but there's an underlying contentment. When negatively depressed, my relative withdrawal masks massive self-desctuctive activity under the surface. When 'positively depressed', like now, I'm accepting of my own capabilities and of the way things are. And I'm also understanding how much loving connections matter and how little everything else matters in comparison. Probably all familiar stuff to others, but it's something I knew once and was taught to ignore. And now it's like coming home to myself, in a way.

Having made a distinction between negative and positive depression, as I see it, I must say that antidepressants worked for me in the short term. There is a physical/chemical aspect to my depression. The effect of the pills was to untangle confusing thoughts by flattening out experience. After a couple of months I realised this had been useful but was no longer going to work, because my experience of the world is anything but flat. But, importantly, the hated prescription had given me a glimpse of what contentment might be like.

Overall, counselling has done much more for me than drugs. But I'd say don't discount drug therapy in the short term: do what you need to do to move things on. If you're strong enough to think freely for yourself, you're certainly strong enough to gain the benefits from and see and avoid the pitfalls of prescription drugs.

[tinmenace]

All very familiar feelings to me. I'm currently reconnecting to early childhood experiences of awakening (OBEs, ever-tingling crown chakra, etc.) after years of undiagnosed depression.

Just for information and to share, my current state of mind has similar facets to what I term negative depression (all the things mentioned by Celtic Isis, in fact!) but there's an underlying contentment. When negatively depressed, my relative withdrawal masks massive self-desctuctive activity under the surface. When 'positively depressed', like now, I'm accepting of my own capabilities and of the way things are. And I'm also understanding how much loving connections matter and how little everything else matters in comparison. Probably all familiar stuff to others, but it's something I knew once and was taught to ignore. And now it's like coming home to myself, in a way.

Having made a distinction between negative and positive depression, as I see it, I must say that antidepressants worked for me in the short term. There is a physical/chemical aspect to my depression. The effect of the pills was to untangle confusing thoughts by flattening out experience. After a couple of months I realised this had been useful but was no longer going to work, because my experience of the world is anything but flat. But, importantly, the hated prescription had given me a glimpse of what contentment might be like.

Overall, counselling has done much more for me than drugs. But I'd say don't discount drug therapy in the short term: do what you need to do to move things on. If you're strong enough to think freely for yourself, you're certainly strong enough to gain the benefits from and see and avoid the pitfalls of prescription drugs.

Good post!

[paganus]

i was given prozac for 'depression'.i refuse to take it! feel loads better!

[wolfchild]

yes' i also have had these symptoms for years' they had increased at an alarming rate from 2003 when i had discovered david icke! but now i can say they have practicly vanished and now i am free! The terrible DREAMS like' NUCLEAR WAR, PLANE CRASHES,BEEN SHOT,DEAD,FLYING,SPIDERS,ELECTROCUTED,DEAD RELATIVES,SUPER-POWERS AND THE PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS LIKE! WANTING TO GO HOME,LONELINESS,TREMBLING IN MY SLEEP (SHAKING),ANXIETY,DEPRESSION you name it!
i have to say its been a ride and sometimes i just wanted to be put back into the matrix and not come across david icke BUT' i have known all my life something just did not add up!
I know the biggest is yet to come and for some reason i have had that feeling that i was purposely born into this time to help with breaking this spell that has put mankind in chains.
The next 5 yrs is going to be a tough one..... (PHYSICALY)

[tinmenace]

Welcome to the forum :)

[shellygurrrl]

i was given prozac for 'depression'.i refuse to take it! feel loads better!

I'm on Prozac. Only 20mg but if I don't take it - the 2nd day I feel it, symptoms, so I have to find a way to taper off. Mine are capsules which sucks,

[tinmenace]

Start taking lots of Vitamin B-Complex. It'll help with the symptoms.

[tinmenace]

BUMP

[shellygurrrl]

Yay, no more Prozac for me! Woo-hoo, I'm off the junk!

[tinmenace]

Yay, no more Prozac for me! Woo-hoo, I'm off the junk!

I'm so proud of you! Big hug. :)

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

depression for what eva reason can be treated by experiencing higher end vibrations -eg self healing through energy channeling.

[fromthatshow]

How about this as a symptom? A feeling in your head like when you can't pop your ears on an airplane? I've been having that one for months.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

How about this as a symptom? A feeling in your head like when you can't pop your ears on an airplane? I've been having that one for months.

Change to cold showers

relax ur head and neck, tilt it back to one side use ur thumb and forfinger to squeeze the tendons at the back o ur neck-jus behind the ears-at the same time totlly relax ur mouth and jaw, try to feel hot air-which is what is causing that feeling- come out of ur mouth, blow it out of ur mouth but keep completely relaxed-blow while squeezing...

[lost_in_translation]

THE SHAUMBRA SYMPTOMS


Twelve Signs of Your Awakening Divinity
By Geoffrey Hoppe and Tobias



1. Body aches and pains, especially in the neck, shoulder and back. This is the result of intense changes at your DNA level as the spiritual "seed" awakens within. This shall pass.
2. Feeling of deep inner sadness for no apparent reason. You are releasing your past (this lifetime and others) and this causes the feeling of sadness. This is similar to the experience of moving from a house where you lived in for many, many years into a new house. As much as you want to move into the new house, there is a sadness of leaving behind the memories, energy and experiences of the old house. This too shall pass.
3. Crying for no apparent reason. Similar to #2 above. It's good and healthy to let the tears flow. It helps to release the old energy within. This too shall pass.
4. Sudden change in job or career. A very common symptom. As you change, things around you will change as well. Don't worry about finding the "perfect" job or career right now. This too shall pass. You're in transition and you may make several job changes before you settle into one that fits your passion.
5. Withdrawal from family relationships. You are connected to your biological family via old karma. When you get off the karmic cycle, the bonds of the old relationships are released. It will appear as though you are drifting away from your family and friends. This too shall pass.

After a period of time, you may develop a new relationship with them if it is appropriate. However, the relationship will be based in the new energy without the karmic attachments.
6. Unusual sleep patterns. It's likely that you'll awaken many nights between 2:00 - 4:00 AM. There's a lot of work going on within you, and it often causes you to wake up for a "breather." Not to worry. If you can't go back to sleep, get up and do something rather than lay in bed and worry about humanly things. This too shall pass.
7. Intense dreams. These might include war and battle dreams, chase dreams or monster dreams. You are literally releasing the old energy within, and these energies of the past are often symbolized as wars, running to escape and boogiemen. This too shall pass.
8. Physical disorientation. At times you'll feel very ungrounded. You'll be "spatially challenged" with the feeling like you can't put two feet on the ground, or that you're walking between two worlds. As your consciousness transitions into the new energy, you body sometimes lags behind. Spend more time in nature to help ground the new energy within. This too shall pass.
9. Increased "self talk." You'll find yourself talking to your Self more often. You'll suddenly realize you've been chattering away with yourself for the past 30 minutes. There is a new level of communication taking place within your being, and you're experiencing the tip of the iceberg with the self talk. The conversations will increase, and they will become more fluid, more coherent and more insightful. You're not going crazy, you're just Shaumbra moving into the new energy.
10. Feelings of loneliness, even when in the company of others. You may feel alone and removed from others. You may feel the desire to "flee" groups and crowds. As Shaumbra, you are walking a sacred and lonely path. As much as the feelings of loneliness cause you anxiety, it is difficult to relate to others at this time. The feelings of loneliness are also associated with the fact that your Guides have departed. They have been with you on all of your journeys in all of your lifetimes. It was time for them to back away so you could fill your space with your own divinity. This too shall pass. The void within will be filled with the love and energy of your own spiritual consciousness.
11. Loss of passion. You may feel totally disimpassioned, with little or no desire to do anything. That's OK, and it's just part of the process. Take this time to "do no-thing." Don't fight yourself on this, because this too shall pass. It's similar to rebooting a computer. You need to shut down for a brief period of time in order to load the sophisticated new software, or in this case, the new "seed" energy.
12. A deep longing to go Home. This is perhaps the most difficult and challenging of any of the conditions. You may experience a deep and overwhelming desire to leave the planet and return to Home. This is not a "suicidal" feeling. It is not based in anger or frustration. You don't want to make a big deal of it or cause drama for yourself or others. There is a quiet part of you that wants to go Home. The root cause for this is quite simple. You have completed your karmic cycles. You have completed your contract for this lifetime. You are ready to begin a new lifetime while still in this physical body. During this transition process, you have an inner remembrances of what it is like to be on the other side. Are you ready to enlist for another tour of duty here on Earth? Are you ready to take on the challenges of moving into the New Energy? Yes, indeed you could go Home right now. But you've come this far, and after many, many lifetimes it would be a shame to leave before the end of the movie. Besides, Spirit needs you here to help others transition into the new energy. They will need a human guide, just like you, who has taken the journey from the old energy into the new. The path you're walking right now provides the experiences to enable you to become a Teacher of the New Divine Human. As lonely and dark as your journey can be at times, remember that you are never alone.



Source



Everything you have described here in this quote is me .

Ever since I got beck from Iraq in 2004 I have felt this feeling that i dont belong anywhere. pushed away my family and friends. the docs said I had PTSD{ post tramatic stress syndrom} from some of the things that I did and saw while I was deployed. but inside myself i always doubted that explination. after reading this thread I think I have a better picture of whats going on within myself. thank you for starting this thread. the VA had me on a regiment of antidepressants if you can think of it the I was prob perscribed it. I have been off the medication for almost a year now.

how long can the process take before I start feeling "Normal again" I know that my body is going through changes and this is a step that I must take. but at the same time I look around at my family and friends and think to myself how happy they look and I want to be like them.
maybe that's one of the reasons its taking me so long to reach the next level.

[tinmenace]

Antidepressant Scripts Up 16 Million Over 3-Year Period
By Robert Preidt, HealthDay Reporter

(HealthDay News) -- Between 2002 and 2005, the number of prescriptions filled for antidepressant drugs increased from 154 million to 170 million, according to a report released Thursday by the U.S. government.

The analysis, by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, of antidepressant prescriptions (not including refills) written after doctors talked with patients in-person or over the phone found that in 2005:

* 29 percent of prescriptions were written by psychiatrists -- medical doctors who specialize in the treatment of mental disorders.
* 23 percent came from general practitioners -- physicians who provide primary care but are specialty-trained.
* 21 percent came from family practitioners -- primary care physicians who complete a residency in family medicine.
* 10 percent came from internal medicine specialists -- physicians who complete a residency in internal medicine and who focus on the diagnosis and non-surgical treatment of adults with illnesses that are difficult to diagnose or manage.

The data used in the summary are from the Medical Expenditure Panel Survey of health services used by Americans.

LIVESCIENCE (http://www.livescience.com/health/617786.html)





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[marpat]

Just looked at post #1 and I am not trying to upset the thread but those conditions are so common that you could fit many things into those categories.

I do believe that inner development can create depression like symptoms but just because people may fit into some of the ascension symptoms it does not mean they are ascending. I think that listing such negative conditions as a sign of ascension is a bad idea because people who are very keen to ascend will want to feel those symptom and may try and develop such conditions in order to feel like they are progressing, or they could be truly depressed and think that they dont have to do anything about it because they think it means they are ascendng.

Is feeling run down and weakened a sign of success?

[elysiansix]

Reply to Thread 71: Yes absolutely right. Any symptoms or feelings of sadness or depression are NOT repeat NOT signs of Ascension. When you experience Paradigm Shifts into a Higher State you feel nothing but joy and fulfilment and utterly sublime feelings of ........well height and lightness and expansiveness.
Then you start to see the world as it really is: the destruction of the female aspect, domination by eternal war and destruction (got to destroy to recreate - you know the masonic mantra....) and why the future of mankind is NOT ascension for anyone who doesn't have the requisite Reptilian form of oxygen = i.e. money. They will keep out anyone who can't 'afford' to buy their own freedom. That's most definitely not Ascension in any form.