Alex Jones new movie "Fall of the Republic"

[orderoutofchaos]

Click the link below for Alex Jones new movie. Its a good watch:

Part1

http://www.youtube.com/user/GigmongerStine#p/u/14/0bDNYEiYDKw
There are 15 parts click the links on the right hand side on youtube to watch

[geewhizz]

Click the link below for Alex Jones new movie. Its a good watch:

Part1

http://www.youtube.com/user/GigmongerStine#p/u/14/0bDNYEiYDKw
There are 15 parts click the links on the right hand side on youtube to watch

Not as good as 'Obama Deception' IMO

Webster Tarpley is on form yet again though. Tarpley is a god damned genius.

[frase]

This film is a masterpiece.On eof AJ's best.....
Very slockly put together....
Makes you furious at same time at what is going on....
Please spread this far and wide....

[largejack]

Yeah I've watched the first four parts and I don't think it's as good as the Obama Deception. I was hoping he would bring in the lies since the last film which were astronomical but instead it just keeps waffling on about upset entrepreneurs.

[frase]

Stick with it man-It is kick ass.
GREAT section on the climate change FRAUD that everyone should see....
This is the route for centralisation of governments....

[firstlook]

To download this movie without P2P program, go to:

http://www.archive.org/details/falloftherepublic


At the botom of the page under individual files there is a 598MB link for MPEG-4 format. Right click the link and save target as.

peace

[djhooker]

To download this movie without P2P program, go to:

http://www.archive.org/details/falloftherepublic


At the botom of the page under individual files there is a 598MB link for MPEG-4 format. Right click the link and save target as.

peace

start from 6 mins and prepare shitteth thy pants.

[alecksander]

will watch tonight!

[firstlook]

start from 6 mins and prepare shitteth thy pants.

player wont load. But whats up?

[hadabusa]

didnt mention zionists.


basically, a collection of youtube vids, but maybe itll get ppl awake.

its important that non aj fans see this.

atleast its no anti capitalism movie that1has2pay4 to see it:rolleyes:

[pinkfreud]

To download this movie without P2P program, go to:

http://www.archive.org/details/falloftherepublic


thanks much for the link :)

[spock]

full film on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8[/URL][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&feature=player_embedded"]

[Anders Lindman]

didnt mention zionists.


basically, a collection of youtube vids, but maybe itll get ppl awake.

its important that non aj fans see this.

atleast its no anti capitalism movie that1has2pay4 to see it:rolleyes:

You don't need to pay because the documentary has probably already been payed for by the FBI. :rolleyes:

If you're looking for Zionist info, check out:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/

Not recommended if you're an Alex Jones fan. ;) Although I don't buy into all the Zionist conspiracy theories. Could be just another layer of controlled opposition.

[hadabusa]

You don't need to pay because the documentary has probably already been payed for by the FBI. :rolleyes:

If you're looking for Zionist info, check out:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/

Not recommended if you're an Alex Jones fan. ;) Although I don't buy into all the Zionist conspiracy theories. Could be just another layer of controlled opposition.

lol, you know im not exactly his biggest fan:cool:

yes, could be that all zionist stuff is smokescreens.

but alex deliberatelly ignoring the matter is disgusting.

*germanic death cult*:)

[Anders Lindman]

lol, you know im not exactly his biggest fan:cool:

yes, could be that all zionist stuff is smokescreens.

but alex deliberatelly ignoring the matter is disgusting.

*germanic death cult*:)

To be fair maybe Alex Jones stays away from conspiracy theories like that because it only makes it more messy. I'm totally confused about the whole truth movement at the moment. :D I think I will rest my mind awhile from all the conspiracy stuff.

[kappy0405]

This film starts off extremely slow. It makes great points on the Federal Reserve for about the first hour, but I can't see many newcomers sticking it out through to the end because it is a bit slow during that time. That's sad, because I thought the last hour and a half was incredible in every way. I would've liked him to mention Rockefeller/Rothschild a little more, along with their numerous Round Table groups. I think the only one mentioned was the CFR, and that was only mentioned once. After seeing the film, more people will be aware that there is an agenda, but they unfortunately won't know exactly where to seek information beyond that. Putting more emphasis on WHO these bankers are and their lobbying structure (the Round Table groups) would've clarified that bit, imo - and there was several instances where that information could've been added in.

Overall, another great film, but perhaps not as good as the Obama Deception.

[freedomnonfighter]

I'm an hour and a half into it, and I think it is phenomenal. His bet yet, imo. Alan Watt and Tarpley have been ace.

For me, it exposes the financial fraud much more than his previous film[s]. The Obama Deception, for people unaware of all that's going on, seemed to be a lot less down to earth than this film. This one is exposing more of his and his cabinet's outright lies than the last film (but partly because time has simply passed, thus more lies).

[solve_et_coagula]

Alex Jones New Movie: Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack Obama FULL MOVIE

http://video.***********************/video/Fall_Of_The_Republic_The_Presidency_Of_Barack_Obam a_FULL_MOVIE?id=9071c93af3917215ef7

[solve_et_coagula]

Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack H Obama - The Full Movie HQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

[1776]

Jesus, how many threads are going to be created for this movie?

Use the search function, and you'd notice the amount of threads that have already been created for this very purpose....

[aura]

The reason why people have made many topics on this DVD release, is because the mods keep moving them in less viewed sections - so often they are unware.

[Anders Lindman]

Alan Watt and Tarpley have been ace.


But isn't it suspicious that Alan Watt gets so much media exposure? Almost like he is a conspiracy theory celebrity. Alan himself said that nobody gets any significant media coverage unless the elite make it happen. So, according to his own theory, he has been promoted by the elite.

I'm not saying that I'm sure that people like Alan Watt, Webster Tarpley and Alex Jones have been promoted by the elite. But there is a risk of that. IF there really are and have been really big conspiracies going on by a ruling elite (and that is pretty obvious), then they would invest a LOT of money, time, resources, manipulation schemes, brainwashing programs, subliminal programming, diversion techniques etc etc in the form of FAKE conspiracy researchers presenting information that does not convey the whole picture or the whole truth, as a very effective way of protecting themselves by manipulating the masses.

The ruling elite are control freaks (and have been for thousands of years). By creating a controlled opposition in the form of fake conspiracy researchers who are essentially merely advanced actors, they can maintain centralized control over people and how they should think, what to focus on and so on. All the actors (conspiracy researchers) need to do is to avoid presenting sensitive key information, and so they can give away a lot of true conspiracy information which will make them seem genuine (at least on the surface).

The key thing to control the masses of people is to control the media. And when the Internet and the Web started to get big, they surely set up gatekeeper controlled opposition alternative media channels.

[firstlook]

But isn't it suspicious that Alan Watt gets so much media exposure? Almost like he is a conspiracy theory celebrity. Alan himself said that nobody gets any significant media coverage unless the elite make it happen. So, according to his own theory, he has been promoted by the elite.

I'm not saying that I'm sure that people like Alan Watt, Webster Tarpley and Alex Jones have been promoted by the elite. But there is a risk of that. IF there really are and have been really big conspiracies going on by a ruling elite, then they would invest a LOT of money, time, resources, manipulation schemes, brainwashing programs, subliminal programming, diversion techniques etc etc in the form of FAKE conspiracy researchers presenting information that does not convey the whole picture or the whole truth, as a very effective way of protecting themselves by manipulating the masses.

The ruling elite are control freaks (and have been for thousands of years). By creating a controlled opposition in the form of fake conspiracy researchers who are essentially merely advanced actors, they can maintain centralized control over people and how they should think, what to focus on and so on. All the actors (conspiracy researchers) need to do is to avoid presenting sensitive key information, so they can give away a lot of true conspiracy information which will make them seem genuine (at least on the surface).

I was thinking the other day about how they always show the people their intentions in some abstract way before they commit their actions. Lately Ive been wondering how all of the alternative media and researchers might play into this. Im not making any statements as facts, but perhaps the next step for the elite is so big they are allowing people to broadcast their research to wider social netwarks as merely a final inyour face we are sitting right in front of you and since you still do nothing, then so be it. You know? the sick rationalising of their minds. Just a thought.

[1776]

But isn't it suspicious that Alan Watt gets so much media exposure? Almost like he is a conspiracy theory celebrity. Alan himself said that nobody gets any significant media coverage unless the elite make it happen. So, according to his own theory, he has been promoted by the elite.

I'm not saying that I'm sure that people like Alan Watt, Webster Tarpley and Alex Jones have been promoted by the elite. But there is a risk of that. IF there really are and have been really big conspiracies going on by a ruling elite (and that is pretty obvious), then they would invest a LOT of money, time, resources, manipulation schemes, brainwashing programs, subliminal programming, diversion techniques etc etc in the form of FAKE conspiracy researchers presenting information that does not convey the whole picture or the whole truth, as a very effective way of protecting themselves by manipulating the masses.

The ruling elite are control freaks (and have been for thousands of years). By creating a controlled opposition in the form of fake conspiracy researchers who are essentially merely advanced actors, they can maintain centralized control over people and how they should think, what to focus on and so on. All the actors (conspiracy researchers) need to do is to avoid presenting sensitive key information, and so they can give away a lot of true conspiracy information which will make them seem genuine (at least on the surface).

The key thing to control the masses of people is to control the media. And when the Internet and the Web started to get big, they surely set up gatekeeper controlled opposition alternative media channels.

Not to mention who owns and controls Mr. Jones....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaGLTWyLR1A

How do people still believe this fraud con man?

[hadabusa]

To be fair maybe Alex Jones stays away from conspiracy theories like that because it only makes it more messy. I'm totally confused about the whole truth movement at the moment. :D I think I will rest my mind awhile from all the conspiracy stuff.

no matter the confusion, the enemy is known by many now.

if we all promote it, the nwo will be not needed 4anybody one day.

this process takes time,tough.

modern renaissance ,great thing:cool:

[noewhan]

Good film, but Alex did say that the film would say how to beat them. But that's going to be in the 2nd edition of FOTR.

[hadabusa]

Good film, but Alex did say that the film would say how to beat them. But that's going to be in the 2nd edition of FOTR.

lol,looking 4ward2that laugh.

[Anders Lindman]

I was thinking the other day about how they always show the people their intentions in some abstract way before they commit their actions. Lately Ive been wondering how all of the alternative media and researchers might play into this. Im not making any statements as facts, but perhaps the next step for the elite is so big they are allowing people to broadcast their research to wider social netwarks as merely a final inyour face we are sitting right in front of you and since you still do nothing, then so be it. You know? the sick rationalising of their minds. Just a thought.

One possible trick is that controlled opposition alternative media sources expose pretty much the real agenda. And then when the agenda is being implemented step by step, they can say: "See! I told you so." and the followers go: "Yes! I KNEW it!" and in this way they actually lure people into indirectly supporting the agenda.

[Anders Lindman]

Not to mention who owns and controls Mr. Jones....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaGLTWyLR1A

How do people still believe this fraud con man?

I don't know how real the connection is to ABC and Disney. Could be that the GCN Network is just using some services that are owned by these media companies. But I haven't researched this.

What I do know is that Ted Anderson, the owner I think of GCN Network, has previously worked for the FBI, and perhaps still does!

One conspiracy-conspiracy ;) theory is that Alex Jones replaced William Cooper as their main controlled opposition puppet, because Alex would be more suitable for the Internet. I don't know exactly when the sites infowars.com and prisonplanet.com were created, but I guess sometime before the year 2000, in the late 90s, just when the Web started to get really big.

[1776]

I don't know how real the connection is to ABC and Disney. Could be that the GCN Network is just using some services that are owned by these media companies. But I haven't researched this.

What I do know is that Ted Anderson, the owner I think of GCN Network, has previously worked for the FBI, and perhaps still does!

One conspiracy-conspiracy ;) theory is that Alex Jones replaced William Cooper as their main controlled opposition puppet, because Alex would be more suitable for the Internet. I don't know exactly when the sites infowars.com and prisonplanet.com were created, but I guess sometime before the year 2000, in the late 90s, just when the Web started to get really big.

While I'll never agree with you that William Cooper was controlled opposition (he was not), I do agree with the rest of your summary.

Did you watch the short youtube clip that I provided in my post? A few simple searches on the web will provide you with amble evidence showing you who Alex Jones answers to and works for. Ted Anderson cuts his checks to Clear Channel by the way... just some more food for thought about who owns who here.

To say that Alex Jones represents the "Alternative Media" and exposes the "Mainstream Media" is a joke... it's as bad as saying that Osama bin Laden represents the American public and exposes the CIA.

[1776]

lol,looking 4ward2that laugh.

Right...I forgot...

How to beat "them": Buy more of my DVD's and WAKE UP THE SHEEPLE!!! :rolleyes:

[1776]

The reason why people have made many topics on this DVD release, is because the mods keep moving them in less viewed sections - so often they are unware.

As it rightly should!!!

STOP CREATING REPETITIVE THREADS ABOUT THIS MOVIE!

It's getting annoying :)

[Anders Lindman]

While I'll never agree with you that William Cooper was controlled opposition (he was not), I do agree with the rest of your summary.

Did you watch the short youtube clip that I provided in my post? A few simple searches on the web will provide you with amble evidence showing you who Alex Jones answers to and works for. Ted Anderson cuts his checks to Clear Channel by the way... just some more food for thought about who owns who here.

To say that Alex Jones represents the "Alternative Media" and exposes the "Mainstream Media" is a joke... it's as bad as saying that Osama bin Laden represents the American public and exposes the CIA.

I watched a presentation by William Cooper where he showed how the driver of the limousine killed JFK. And then I thought, holy smoke, that is one major conspiracy theory detour. William Cooper was a controlled opposition conspiracy researcher. Especially revealed by the way his presentation cleverly created a smokescreen for the real assassin: Jackie Kennedy.

This is what really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RZVWRVd4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RZVWRVd4E

Notice how JFK looks down in surprise at his throat, and just a few seconds after that he goes limp as a rag doll. It's only his steel-reinforced corset that holds him erect until the fatal head shot.

Also notice how the B-movie acting Mr. CONnally jerks his arms up at the same moment as JFK's throat gets penetrated. And after that Connally pretends to be clueless and sheepishly looking around.

Meanwhile Jackie holds a steady gaze fixated at Connally. She is waiting for the go ahead order for the assassination. In a brief moment, Connally turns his head to meet Jackie's gaze, and he makes a slight nod, and then starts to turn his head back again.

After receiving the order, Jackie moves her right arm behind JFK with her elbow in a rigid position. And then...bang!

[1776]

I watched a presentation by William Cooper where he showed how the driver of the limousine killed JFK. And then I thought, holy smoke, that is one major conspiracy theory detour. William Cooper was a controlled opposition conspiracy researcher. Especially revealed by the way his presentation cleverly created a smokescreen for the real assassin: Jackie Kennedy.

This is what really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RZVWRVd4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RZVWRVd4E

Notice how JFK looks down in surprise at his throat, and just a few seconds after that he goes limp as a rag doll. It's only his steel-reinforced corset that holds him erect until the fatal head shot.

Also notice how the B-movie acting Mr. CONnally jerks his arms up at the same moment as JFK's throat gets penetrated. And after that Connally pretends to be clueless and sheepishly looking around.

Meanwhile Jackie holds a steady gaze fixated at Connally. She is waiting for the go ahead order for the assassination. In a brief moment, Connally turns his head to meet Jackie's gaze, and he makes a slight nod, and then starts to turn his head back again.

After receiving the order, Jackie moves her right arm behind JFK with her elbow in a rigid position. And then...bang!

I appreciate your summary for the JFK assassination... and you may be right, I do not know that answer.

I do know this, though. Despite whether or not Cooper was wrong about his conclusions with the JFK assassination, he was not controlled opposition. Not even close. If this is the only evidence you have to support that theory, you have nothing.

[mysticmolly]

Well I forced myself to watch that, I knew most of it already of course.

Seriously though this is all a set up.

This is not about what you think ... global warming, taxes and elite take over.

This is about getting systems in place ... even you high definition TV and super fast internet is a system that has been put in place. You think it was for your entertainment?

The elite are going to hand us over ...

Part of the process is that you become educated in what is going on and you do rise up. That has always been planned. It is not an accident that films like this are being made and turned into a virus that is spreading around the globe like a plague.

No, they want you to know, they want you to rise up ... or maybe not because these Alex Jones types tell you "No, don't do anything, don't riot!!! No ... not till it suits them and then suddenly it will be ... it's time to riot, quick take to the street. Alex Jones and this shit is just another religion.

Look, I don"t know what I am trying to say here but you know ...

If the technology has been made to chip everyone and the chips are waiting, that it is going to happen.

You are being reprogrammed as we speak, here on David Icke and by your TV.

What are you being brainwashed into believing .... you are not free.

Anyway I will shut up now. We all know the same thing ... within a year or so we all all be chipped and told what we can and can't do.

[kappy0405]

cooper saying that the driver shot JFK is worse than anything Alex has ever said - including his y2k ranting. It reminds me of the no planers, tbh.

fact = people make mistakes, and people dedicated to exposing the agenda tend to use poor judgement sometimes. It comes with the territory.

theory = these people are controlled opposition.

Seriously, is there any proof? Alex Jones being married to a Jew is not even evidence, let alone proof. That his radio show is funded by certain sponsors who are Jews might be valid evidence, but certainly not proof unless you think all Jews are evil Illuminati Satanists.

I just don't see how this 'everyone is controlled-op' mindset is getting the movement anywhere. Without guys like Maxwell, Cooper, Jones, and Icke, there IS NO OPPOSITION ANYWAY. And apparently all of these guys are controlled op.. ridiculous. The only way this makes any sense is if the elite are doing this for shits and giggles, because there is no logical strategy in creating controlled opposition when there would basically be no opposition in the first place.

[hadabusa]

cooper saying that the driver shot JFK is worse than anything Alex has ever said - including his y2k ranting. It reminds me of the no planers, tbh.

fact = people make mistakes, and people dedicated to exposing the agenda tend to use poor judgement sometimes. It comes with the territory.

theory = these people are controlled opposition.

Seriously, is there any proof? Alex Jones being married to a Jew is not even evidence, let alone proof. That his radio show is funded by certain sponsors who are Jews might be valid evidence, but certainly not proof unless you think all Jews are evil Illuminati Satanists.

I just don't see how this 'everyone is controlled-op' mindset is getting the movement anywhere. Without guys like Maxwell, Cooper, Jones, and Icke, there IS NO OPPOSITION ANYWAY. And apparently all of these guys are controlled op.. ridiculous. The only way this makes any sense is if the elite are doing this for shits and giggles, because there is no logical strategy in creating controlled opposition when there would basically be no opposition in the first place.

whats wrong with npt?

the NOSE OUT is good enough4me.


are you saying SC is total bs?

[1776]

cooper saying that the driver shot JFK is worse than anything Alex has ever said - including his y2k ranting. It reminds me of the no planers, tbh.

fact = people make mistakes, and people dedicated to exposing the agenda tend to use poor judgement sometimes. It comes with the territory.

theory = these people are controlled opposition.

Seriously, is there any proof? Alex Jones being married to a Jew is not even evidence, let alone proof. That his radio show is funded by certain sponsors who are Jews might be valid evidence, but certainly not proof unless you think all Jews are evil Illuminati Satanists.

I just don't see how this 'everyone is controlled-op' mindset is getting the movement anywhere. Without guys like Maxwell, Cooper, Jones, and Icke, there IS NO OPPOSITION ANYWAY. And apparently all of these guys are controlled op.. ridiculous. The only way this makes any sense is if the elite are doing this for shits and giggles, because there is no logical strategy in creating controlled opposition when there would basically be no opposition in the first place.

LOL

You are juvenile and discredit yourself in the same breath. You're a moron.

Without your "heros" there's no opposition? Speak for yourself, buddy! I'm not even going to waste my time picking apart the rest of your ignorant post.


The No planes theory is more than just a theory at this point. How the hell can you deny this? Are you just blind?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ylLSLd14a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0dNaseISM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ID2b3nb5dA


Need I provide any more SOLID (this means FACTUAL by the way) evidence?

[1776]

Well I forced myself to watch that, I knew most of it already of course.

Seriously though this is all a set up.

This is not about what you think ... global warming, taxes and elite take over.

This is about getting systems in place ... even you high definition TV and super fast internet is a system that has been put in place. You think it was for your entertainment?

The elite are going to hand us over ...

Part of the process is that you become educated in what is going on and you do rise up. That has always been planned. It is not an accident that films like this are being made and turned into a virus that is spreading around the globe like a plague.

No, they want you to know, they want you to rise up ... or maybe not because these Alex Jones types tell you "No, don't do anything, don't riot!!! No ... not till it suits them and then suddenly it will be ... it's time to riot, quick take to the street. Alex Jones and this shit is just another religion.

Look, I don"t know what I am trying to say here but you know ...

If the technology has been made to chip everyone and the chips are waiting, that it is going to happen.

You are being reprogrammed as we speak, here on David Icke and by your TV.

What are you being brainwashed into believing .... you are not free.

Anyway I will shut up now. We all know the same thing ... within a year or so we all all be chipped and told what we can and can't do.


*applauds*

THANK YOU!

Finally.... someone fuckin gets it!!! I really don't have words to describe how I felt while reading that post of yours..... we both know the truth, that's all I can really say at this point!

Thank you for being completely honest and allowing yourself to speak the unadulterated truth that is the horrible reality of our global existence on earth right now...

[tusme]

Merging "Fall of the Republic" threads...

[hadabusa]

bridge is iffy imo.

but the NOSE OUT is blatant.


some1plz debunk that,i couldnt:confused:

[Anders Lindman]

I do know this, though. Despite whether or not Cooper was wrong about his conclusions with the JFK assassination, he was not controlled opposition. Not even close. If this is the only evidence you have to support that theory, you have nothing.

It was the way Cooper's presentation was made that made me highly suspicious. In the Zapruder film, Jackie is during the assassination sequence acting very calm, composed and calculating, in a way more of a trained assassin than your ordinary housewife or innocent first lady.

In the whole Zapruder film, there is only one brief moment where Jackie looks distressed, either through acting or genuinely appalled, and in Cooper's presentation, that is the only prominent picture of Jackie that is being showed. In fact, it's a massive blowup of Jackie's distressed face, and it was an old video (in the days of VHS before digital video editing was commonplace), so they must have made quite some effort to produce that blowup of that particular frame in the Zapruder film. An obvious smokescreen to hide the real 'hidden in plain sight' event.

[1776]

It was the way Cooper's presentation was made that made me highly suspicious. In the Zapruder film, Jackie is during the assassination sequence acting very calm, composed and calculating, in a way more of a trained assassin than your ordinary housewife or innocent first lady.

In the whole Zapruder film, there is only one brief moment where Jackie looks distressed, either through acting or genuinely appalled, and in Cooper's presentation, that is the only prominent picture of Jackie that is being showed. In fact, it's a massive blowup of Jackie's distressed face, and it was an old video (in the days of VHS before digital video editing was commonplace), so they must have made quite some effort to produce that blowup of that particular frame in the Zapruder film. An obvious smokescreen to hide the real 'hidden in plain sight' event.

I've watched plenty of different JFK shot scenes from different videos and angles and I haven't even noticed that, myself... and I have no ulterior motive obviously for why I believe what I believe about the JFK shooting.

I really believe that Cooper seriously thought that the driver shot JFK, and provided what he thought was solid evidence to his findings. Nothing more, nothing less. He wasn't controlled opposition.... have you read his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse'? Come on.... let's be real here.

[1776]

bridge is iffy imo.

but the NOSE OUT is blatant.


some1plz debunk that,i couldnt:confused:

How about this one?

The bridge one is really compelling stuff imo....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hyvcxYXRTA

[hadabusa]

anders, your say on nose out?

we never finished that discussion;):D

[hadabusa]

How about this one?

The bridge one is really compelling stuff imo....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hyvcxYXRTA

im actually a shack believer:)

just saying the bridge thing may be explainable.

im no real npt ,i think something looking likea plane hit,just no passenger plane .

shack merely points out footage stuff, he did it well imo.

i find the shack bandwaggoners are frauds,adding lots bs.

but SC isa shocker

:eek::eek:

[Anders Lindman]

I've watched plenty of different JFK shot scenes from different videos and angles and I haven't even noticed that, myself... and I have no ulterior motive obviously for why I believe what I believe about the JFK shooting.

I really believe that Cooper seriously thought that the driver shot JFK, and provided what he thought was solid evidence to his findings. Nothing more, nothing less. He wasn't controlled opposition.... have you read his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse'? Come on.... let's be real here.

I believe those in power make much more effort controlling the conspiracy research than one at first usually might suspect. Control of mainstream media, that is obvious and there is ample of proof of that. But also the control of conspiracy research is likely a very important part of the control. When I did some research about the JFK assassination it hit me: oh my, I have been fooled!

[Anders Lindman]

How about this one?

The bridge one is really compelling stuff imo....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hyvcxYXRTA

Wow. That is really strange. But for what purpose would they edit the video sequence like that? :confused:

[Anders Lindman]

anders, your say on nose out?

we never finished that discussion;):D

Yeah, I saw the nose out sequence. It could have been a smoke/fire ball that looked like the nose of the plane. So I don't see it as a definite proof.

[hadabusa]

Yeah, I saw the nose out sequence. It could have been a smoke/fire ball that looked like the nose of the plane. So I don't see it as a definite proof.

look again:)

[1776]

Yeah, I saw the nose out sequence. It could have been a smoke/fire ball that looked like the nose of the plane. So I don't see it as a definite proof.

Are you joking?

You can see the nose of the plane come out the other side of the freakin tower!! How can you mistake that for anything but what it actually is?

You obviously haven't studied tapes from 9/11 videos of that day like I have, or even cared to freeze frame the nose-out sequence.... a blind man can see that!

[1776]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo


http://files.abovetopsecret.com/uploads/ats45388_050906wflight175.jpg


Need any more proof, anders?

[Anders Lindman]

Are you joking?

You can see the nose of the plane come out the other side of the freakin tower!! How can you mistake that for anything but what it actually is?

You obviously haven't studied tapes from 9/11 videos of that day like I have, or even cared to freeze frame the nose-out sequence.... a blind man can see that!

I'm looking at the nose out again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo

It does look suspiciously similar to the nose cone and not some ball of smoke/debris/fire. And the news commenter even says: "You see the plane actually pierce the building, and virtually came out the other side."

But I bet some debunker will still say that it's a fireball or smoke or something like that.

[hadabusa]

I'm looking at the nose out again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo

It does look suspiciously similar to the nose cone and not some ball of smoke/debris/fire. And the news commenter even says: "You see the plane actually pierce the building, and virtually came out the other side."

But I bet some debunker will still say that it's a fireball or smoke or something like that.

jason bermarse says itsan engine:)

[1776]

jason bermarse says itsan engine:)

Jason Bermas is a Zionist puppet for the elite who answers only to Mr. Alex Jones, his puppet master.

[Anders Lindman]

jason bermarse says itsan engine:)

It's probably no coincidence that he sits in for Alex Jones at times. ;) And Jason probably got some 'help' with the 'blockbuster' Loose Change. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably controlled opposition.

[hadabusa]

Jason Bermas is a Zionist puppet for the elite who answers only to Mr. Alex Jones, his puppet master.

rumour has it,jones shackled his bf bermarse to the desk:)

[1776]

This is little Zionist Jason Bermas flipping out on someone and blowing what the caller said out of proportion.... just because he must protect the Zionist state of Israel at all costs... and make people who talk about it look NUTS and RACIST when they aren't!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

[hadabusa]

It's probably no coincidence that he sits in for Alex Jones at times. ;) And Jason probably got some 'help' with the 'blockbuster' Loose Change. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably controlled opposition.

he was1of the frauds behind losers change,actually.
he *debunked* losers change later on,when he got alexs pet.

lol, americans following him is...you couldnt make this up.

when will aj be listed under variete/comedy on utub already?:confused:

ppl might say obmadeception was good, but i find it an atrocity how any1 in usa could think any potus was the ppls guy:confused:

[hadabusa]

This is little Zionist Jason Bermas flipping out on someone and blowing what the caller said out of proportion.... just because he must protect the Zionist state of Israel at all costs... and make people who talk about it look NUTS and RACIST when they aren't!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

yup, thatsa classy1.

*dont call into my show if you hate jews*

i wanna call him,lol.
some1pm me his number:)

[Anders Lindman]

This is little Zionist Jason Bermas flipping out on someone and blowing what the caller said out of proportion.... just because he must protect the Zionist state of Israel at all costs... and make people who talk about it look NUTS and RACIST when they aren't!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

Jason is correct that it's not a Jewish conspiracy. It's a ruling power elite against the people, including their OWN people. Zionism, which is as I understand it a political movement could play a part in the overall conspiracy, but so could Freemasonry and even the Vatican etc. So I have to agree with Jason here, although his reaction was a bit exaggerated.

[Anders Lindman]

Overall I think Alex Jones is doing a great job. Could he be controlled opposition? Yes, I think so, at least someone has him by his balls it seems, but he does expose a lot of corruption and conspiracies, and that is definitely good at least for people who are not familiar with conspiracies at all.

Not as good as Art Bell though who recently had a show about the moon mission hoax. Brilliant stuff. Pure class. And to paraphrase Art: "Who the f..k selects the news headlines for Coast to Coast? George Noory, make sure that someone changes the way the news stories are chosen and get rid of the fear-based crap." :D

[hadabusa]

Jason is correct that it's not a Jewish conspiracy. It's a ruling power elite against the people, including their OWN people. Zionism, which is as I understand it a political movement could play a part in the overall conspiracy, but so could Freemasonry and even the Vatican etc. So I have to agree with Jason here, although his reaction was a bit exaggerated.

yes, these 3 clubs are major players in the cartel supressing us.
dont matter whos on top,all need2go.

jason isa young idiot, but ill quote this vid atany given chance:)

aj,overall does ok a job, its important2look further then his *gospel*,tough.
he provides basics2the braindead yankies mostly.
may not be waterfalls of knowledge,but itsa much needed step.

[Anders Lindman]

yes, these 3 clubs are major players in the cartel supressing us.
dont matter whos on top,all need2go.

jason isa young idiot, but ill quote this vid atany given chance:)

aj,overall does ok a job, its important2look further then his *gospel*,tough.
he provides basics2the braindead yankies mostly.
may not be waterfalls of knowledge,but itsa much needed step.

That's what I criticize Alex Jones for, that he doesn't give the whole picture. On the other hand he must probably remain within certain boundaries. And it's maybe not a bad thing seen from the bigger picture, although I think it's good to not get too stuck in information handed to us from too few and too big and centralized sources.

[hadabusa]

That's what I criticize Alex Jones for, that he doesn't give the whole picture. On the other hand he must probably remain within certain boundaries. And it's maybe not a bad thing seen from the bigger picture, although I think it's good to not get too stuck in information handed to us from too few and too big and centralized sources.
exactly.

obviously hes not allowed to critize zionism, fine, theres others who do.

truth isnt centralised,we must interpret 4ourselves.

i critize him 4never appologizing4hoaxes originating on his forum.

[1776]

That's what I criticize Alex Jones for, that he doesn't give the whole picture. On the other hand he must probably remain within certain boundaries. And it's maybe not a bad thing seen from the bigger picture, although I think it's good to not get too stuck in information handed to us from too few and too big and centralized sources.

How is it "not a bad thing", which implies it's actually a good thing?

It's a terrible thing. It's crap. If he's after the truth, and wants to "wake people up", than it must be the real truth, the BIGGER PICTURE, the people behind the masks and shell companies and big business!

He has his followers stuck in this little half-truth paradigm, which is very ironic considering his views on the "False Right/Left paradigm" which he criticizes all the time (and I agree with him about this one topic).

He refuses to get his hands dirty and protects certain people and organizations. Have you ever heard him mention a PEEP about the Council on National Policy (CNP) or the Jesuits/Zionists in any real constructive break-down sort of way? Nope, and he never will because he's just an entertainer/con-man with superiors that he must please and appeal to without damaging their image or revealing their dirty secrets.

I'm not saying that Alex Jones is Jewish, an Alien/Reptilian, or a CIA Agent (although I have my suspicions)... he's just a liar, a con-man, an actor and a cult leader.

And yes, this makes him a bad guy. This is a bad thing!

[Anders Lindman]

How is it "not a bad thing", which implies it's actually a good thing?

It's a terrible thing. It's crap. If he's after the truth, and wants to "wake people up", than it must be the real truth, the BIGGER PICTURE, the people behind the masks and shell companies and big business!

He has his followers stuck in this little half-truth paradigm, which is very ironic considering his views on the "False Right/Left paradigm" which he criticizes all the time (and I agree with him about this one topic).

He refuses to get his hands dirty and protects certain people and organizations. Have you ever heard him mention a PEEP about the Council on National Policy (CNP) or the Jesuits/Zionists in any real constructive break-down sort of way? Nope, and he never will because he's just an entertainer/con-man with superiors that he must please and appeal to without damaging their image or revealing their dirty secrets.

I'm not saying that Alex Jones is Jewish, an Alien/Reptilian, or a CIA Agent (although I have my suspicions)... he's just a liar, a con-man, an actor and a cult leader.

And yes, this makes him a bad guy. This is a bad thing!

I think of the Alex Jones show as something between mainstream and grassroot. Compared to the mainstream media networks, the Alex Jones show presents much more conspiracy information and exposure of corruption. That's a good thing I think. And a pressure is constantly being built up from the more grassroot level of conspiracy researchers, websites, blogs, forums etc. So the Alex Jones show is not a monopoly on conspiracy information. It's only a problem if we ONLY listen to the Alex Jones show and nothing else.

[domtak]

I watched the video and thought it was pretty good. I also passed it onto friends who would switch off had it been 'bigger in scope'. By that I mean covering too much of the bigger picture would be too much for them to take in.

You've got to eat the NWO burger in bite size pieces rather than stuffing it in one mouthfull... so to speak :p

D

[skiver]

I watched the video and thought it was pretty good. I also passed it onto friends who would switch off had it been 'bigger in scope'. By that I mean covering too much of the bigger picture would be too much for them to take in.

You've got to eat the NWO burger in bite size pieces rather than stuffing it in one mouthfull... so to speak :p

D


You called it right domtak;

Softly, softly, catchee monkey. ;)

[grenadene]

I'm half way through watching it now and it's OK...I'll make a fuller comment when I've watched it all. Something I've noticed so far is that some of the conclusions AJ jumps to really irritates me, it might just be his delivery I'm not sure?

From the perspective of waking people up I think it's just as well he doesn't bang on about the joos. Forget the conspiracy for a moment and consider what the average person thinks about the holocaust? It's not my topic of expertise but the general consensus out there is that it was the worse affront to humanity in modern if not all history. You can seriously not bang on about the Jews, when you actually mean Zionists and certainly not to a non conspiracy theorist if you don't want them to take you seriously. If people are serious about waking people up then we need to apply a bit of psychology

Also I'm not sure how he defines the oligarchy that has bought up the government as communism. I see it as crazy capitalism, greed and corruption finally coming to it's natural conclusion. The 'state' is a private corporation and us lot are the tax monkeys that fund them.....what the fuck has that got to do with communism? and it's a great way of alienating all the 'hippy types' which we could actually do with because we are trying to wake people up remember....

Most greenies, commies, lefties or whatever are nice people, often spiritual people that have at least half an idea that's dark forces are at work. The whole global warming scam has been successful for the ptb because it taps into a deep feeling many people have and that is that we can't continue to live the consumer lifestyles that we have been doing. Hasn't anyone noticed how environmental issues or dare I say it ...resource based economies are met with derision on truther sites. Yet we bark on about the global warming scam and how stupid people are to fall for it.... when environmental responsibility in it's proper sense is something we should be encouraging surely. It sickens me that a wedge has been driven between many different people who in reality want to same thing.

I wonder if the 'truth movement' is in danger of becoming elitist itself?

It could explain the number of pro BNP threads that we've had to suffer of late.

Anyway... sorry about that.. not sure where it came from.... maybe I channeled it? who knows

I'm going to get back to the film now :)