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vera susa
31-10-2009, 07:33 AM
Bill Bailey - Part Troll (Part 3 of 10)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

... so while the world's falling apart and exploding,
in more ways than a few, OZ has been SHORING UP,
inside and out ... just one brief over view, of one sectors work:

http://www.csiro.au/news/MediaCentre.html

*
The corrosion resistance of Quench Coat equals that of chromate coatings while maintaining the freshly galvanised appearance. (CSIRO)
Eco-friendly metal coating replacement for chromate

CSIRO has developed a novel coating technology, "Quench Coat", to protect galvanised products from 'white rust' – the form of zinc oxide that tarnishes freshly galvanised coatings, making them look dull.
*
A creek crossing in the Burdekin River catchment, west of Townsville.
CSIRO takes first hard look at Contested Country

The first comprehensive and critical examination of Australia’s local and regional management of land, water and biodiversity was released today in a book published by CSIRO.
*
Electron micrograph of Hendra virus.
Breakthrough in fight against Hendra virus

There has been a breakthrough in the fight against the deadly Hendra virus following the development of a treatment which shows great potential to save the lives of people who become infected with the virus.
*
A picture of Dr John O'Sullivan.
Nation’s top awards to CSIRO scientists

Two CSIRO scientists have been honoured at Australia’s premier science awards – the Prime Minister's Prizes for Science.
*
A crop of wheat with white heads caused by Fausarium crown rot
Rot resistant wheat could save farmers millions

CSIRO researchers have identified wheat and barley lines resistant to Crown Rot – a disease that costs Australian wheat and barley farmers $79 million in lost yield every year.
*
A picture of a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) vehicle.
Plugging into an electric vehicle revolution

A road trial of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), which could one day end up in every Australian driveway, is underway.
*
A picture of a lobster diver.
World interest in Australian fishery impact test

An Australian method for assessing the environmental impact of marine fisheries has caught the eye of fishery management agencies worldwide.
*
A picture of The Minister for
Innovation, Industry, Science and Research,
Senator the Hon Kim Carr
launching the
Science and Industry Endowment Fund.
Endowment Fund to support ICT research

An initial round of grants from the rejuvenated Science and Industry Endowment Fund will enhance Australia’s world-leading research capabilities in wireless technologies and help to address the nation’s need for more skilled scientists.
*
Dr Joanne Daly.
Ag. Head chairs international biodiversity body

CSIRO’s Group Executive Agribusiness, Dr Joanne Daly, has been appointed Chair of the Governing Board of the Global Biodiversity
Information Facility (GBIF) based in Copenhagen.
*
An image of a marine animal.
Finding the ASX200 for marine ecosystems

Researchers are building the environmental equivalent of the ASX200 as a means of monitoring the health of Australian marine ecosystems.
*
Study participants (L-R): Kiara and Jenny Petrus
and Christian Masson-Forbes.
Helping parents improve their childrens’ health

CSIRO scientists in Adelaide are undertaking a study to test simple strategies to help parents get their kids off the couch and provide them with healthier foods.
*
An aerial photo of different crop fields on a farm.
World Food Day – CSIRO rising to the challenges

Australian farmers feed over 60 million people a day and CSIRO research aims to maintain and grow this productivity in the face of the significant challenges of greenhouse gas abatement, climate change and land degradation.
*
Dr Cathy Foley
CSIRO innovator wins NSW Telstra Business Women award

Dr Cathy Foley from CSIRO’s Materials Science and Engineering Division was today awarded the NSW Nokia Business Innovation Award in the Telstra Business Women’s Awards.
*
CSIRO scientists view a 3D model of Australia's marine territory.
Study predicts seabed response to climate change

CSIRO scientists have produced the first preliminary predictions of the potential impact of climate change on the Australian seabed.
*
Dr Ben Hoffmann working on the management of African Big-headed Ants on Lord Howe Island.
Reward for fight against ant invaders

African Big Headed, Yellow Crazy, Tropical Fire and Singapore ants are only small foot soldiers, but vast colonies of these invasive insects are wreaking havoc throughout northern Australia - causing major environmental, economical and social damage.
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The WLAN Project Team (L-R): Mr Graham Daniels, Dr John O'Sullivan, Dr Terry Percival, Mr Diet Ostry, Mr John Deane.
CSIRO honours wireless team

Australian inventiveness lies at the heart of how millions of people now use wireless networks to access information on a myriad of portable devices.
*
The five CSIRO medals and awards
CSIRO Medal winners

From the behaviour of invasive ants in northern Australia, finding black holes in space, to making better wireless computer networks, CSIRO has recognised the outstanding work of some of its scientists and staff today at a ceremony in Melbourne.
*
CSIRO Medal for Lifetime Achievement recipient
Dr Ezio Rizzardo (on the left) and the RAFT polymerisation team.
A lifetime revolutionising polymers and radio waves

Polymers make up many parts of our modern life; from the scent in laundry detergents, to coatings on houses, to key aspects in electronics, to new and improved medical therapies.
*
Image of sun rising, a chunk of ice in foreground.
Earth on the edge

Thousands of scientists will meet in Melbourne in mid-2011 to discuss the state of the Earth, including its climate and atmosphere, water resources and oceans, volcanoes and polar regions.
*
The front cover of the CSIRO Annual Report 2008-09.
Annual Report shows breadth and depth of CSIRO science

The CSIRO 2008-2009 Annual Report tabled in Parliament today reflects an organisation responding well to complex national challenges in population growth, climate change, water and energy security and the health and wellbeing of Australians.
*
Scientist releasing water sensor into the ocean.
New manufacturing opportunities -
sensors to protect marine and freshwater ecosystems

An ambitious new research collaboration designed to track the health of Australia’s marine and freshwater ecosystems was launched today.
*
Four people sitting around a table thinking about climate change
Take the lead on energy and climate change in your community

A new community project is offering South Australian residents the opportunity to tackle issues around climate change and help people reduce their carbon footprint.
*
Female sitting in front of three computer screens.
New analysers to unlock mineral value

Machine-mounted sensors, being developed through CSIRO Minerals Down Under Flagship, could help locate ore deposits, characterise the mining environment, and differentiate ore grades.
*
Satellite images near Culcairn in NSW showing the topography
with vegetation (left) and without vegetation (right).
The naked truth about our landscape

Australia has been stripped bare of vegetation to expose the surface that lies beneath.
*
Trials conducted by Will Bignell as part of his PhD research
have shown there is good potential for boosting levels of
long-chain omega-3 oils in lamb through breeding programs
and tailored feeding.
Grains and lamb offer new sources of omega-3

CSIRO research on grains and lamb aimed at developing new dietary sources of long-chain omega-3 oils will be presented at the World Congress on Oils and Fats in Sydney this week.

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.... then why can't the conspiracy industry
feature the fact that God told us about
all this prosperity and security, from the beginning,
and when you read His word, as written, from the
Super-continent age of Noah, with 7 pairs of the kinds
of prehistoric, genetic ancestors ...well when you read
the actual time line that's written, you can see where we're at now.
There is no nile euphrates, ethiopia, egypt,
none of that stuff, but there is Job in dinosaure age ...

vera susa
31-10-2009, 07:43 AM
Now why try and tell us that all this
is in response to the last month of 'boat people',
i.e. people escaping those little scuffles we're in,
like ohh...Afghanistan, ... looks a little, "Pre-Prepared"
to me ...


...



National News

Island asylum centre
expansion 'lunacy'

By Crystal Ja and Andrea Hayward

AAP

October 31, 2009 05:17pm

Christmas Island
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7118741,00.jpg
The detention centre on Christmas Island,
which is due to double in size / Colin Murty

* Government defends expansion plans
* Christmas Island deterntion centre to double
* Will take a toll on the community

THE federal government concedes plans to almost double the capacity to house asylum seekers on Christmas Island will take a toll on the local community.

But it maintains the planned expansion - from around 1200 beds to up to 2200 - is a necessary and prudent measure to counter an expected surge in asylum seekers headed for Australia.

The government confirmed it will spend up to $40 million on upgrades to the Christmas Island detention centre and other facilities on the island.

The latest action on asylum seekers comes as the stalemate aboard the Oceanic Viking continues off the Indonesian coast.

The Australian crew on the customs vessel were replaced overnight - a sign the government was preparing for a long wait in persuading the 78 Sri Lankan asylum seekers to disembark, Immigration Minister Chris Evans said on Saturday.

Arrivals from Sri Lanka was a key reason behind the need to increase capacity "in the order of 2000, 2200 at the end of all the arrangements", he said.
Related Coverage

* Paul Kelly: Rudd can't budge
* Asylum centre to house 2200Perth Now, 31 Oct 2009
* Commission wants Christmas Island axedThe Australian, 24 Oct 2009
* Demountables rushed to detention centreNEWS.com.au, 15 Oct 2009
* No vacancy for boatpeoplePerth Now, 14 Oct 2009
* 'Detention island' struggles to copeThe Australian, 14 Oct 2009

"The government is very much committed to ensuring there is mandatory detention of unauthorised boat arrivals," Senator Evans said.

"What we're doing is ... making a contingency arrangement - prudent contingency arrangements - so we can accommodate more people if needed."

The government earmarked expansion plans some months ago following a flood of arrivals.

Some 81 demountables from the Northern Territory are already on their way to the island to increase bed capacity by around 200, and are expected to be installed within the next few weeks.

The extra capacity should be in place by the end of the year, Senator Evans said.

But the announcement has prompted criticisms it will stretch Christmas Island to breaking point.

The detention centre itself was already struggling to deal with its current numbers, Refugee Action Coalition's Ian Rintoul said, pointing to long queues for computers and phones.

Basic food supplies, such as milk and toast, had been withdrawn from communal areas.

"In every conceivable way, the higher the number the greater those difficulties are going to become," he said.

Detainees were feeling the long-term effects of being penned up, with one Sri Lankan deemed not a genuine refugee climbing a light pole and threatening to throw himself off on Friday, before he was persuaded down.

The government would not confirm the incident.

"The idea of expanding (the detention centre) is lunacy," Mr Rintoul said.

"The detention centre already dominates the island - they're turning it into a penal colony."

Locals, while welcoming the centre as an economic boost, have long called for additional funding to improve public infrastructure such as roads.

Senator Evans conceded the new upgrades would put even more pressure on the island.

"It's no doubt going to put some more pressure on the island, we've already seen that.

"What we're doing is working with the Christmas Island community to try and ensure that we improve the infrastructure to allow them to cope."

Senator Evans maintained Christmas Island would remain Australia's processing site, but did not rule out using mainland detention centres in future if necessary.

"We do have some options on the mainland if we need them, including the Darwin Detention Centre, which has a capacity of 400 and I made it clear if we need to we'll use it," he said.

Meanwhile, he said the government continued to work on the situation aboard the Oceanic Viking and was hopeful the asylum seekers could be coaxed off the boat voluntarily.

"People are complex and obviously they are in a heightened state of anxiety," he said.

"We've just got to make sure
everyone stays calm
and we talk them through the issues and
we try to get them to disembark
voluntarily."

vera susa
31-10-2009, 08:14 AM
# Officials ignore UN advice on fair poll
http://www.smh.com.au/world/officials-ignore-un-advice-on-fair-poll-20091030-hpso.html


# Merkel puts paid to Blair's hopes for EU presidency
http://www.smh.com.au/world/merkel-puts-paid-to-blairs-hopes-for-eu-presidency-20091030-hpss.html

Oasis of the Seas makes maiden voyage

By staff writers

news.com.au

October 30, 2009 11:22am


Oasis of the seas
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7116010,00.jpg
Tall order ... the Oasis of the Seas
can accommodate
6360 passengers,
2160 crew
and offers a world of luxuries.

Picture: Royal Caribbean
THE world's biggest and most expensive cruise ship,
Oasis of the Seas, has finally taken to the seas.

Nearly six years in the making and worth a staggering $1.47 billion, the ship was delivered to the Royal Caribbean cruiseline in Turku, Finland.

The Oasis of the Seas can accommodate
6360 passengers,
2160 crew and offers a world of luxuries,
including: 21 swimming pools, an aqua park,
a casino, a zip line and real trees.

Gallery Pictures: Onboard the Oasis of the Seas

With six levels of staterooms,
a turf-covered chip and putt golf course,
the world's first open-air amphitheatre at the stern,
two surfing simulators and
a boardwalk surrounded by restaurants,
it is more like a giant ritzy resort than a cruise ship.

The biggest suite is 156 square metres and features a large 78.3-square-metre balcony with a jacuzzi.

Related Coverage

* Afloat
The Australian, 30 Oct 2009
* World's mega-ship takes to the seas
NEWS.com.au,
* Love of cruising reaches record high
NEWS.com.au, 23 Oct 2009
* Destination Afloat special
The Australian, 11 Sep 2009
* Top five small ships
The Australian,

Oasis of the Seas is 16 decks high,
or 65 metres above the waterline,
and measures 360 metres long and
47 metres wide.


It is 50 per cent bigger than its nearest rival,
Cunard's elegant ocean liner Queen Mary 2.

On board facilities include a casino and spa, shops but those looking for more excitement can choose between pool surfing, rock-climbing and a whiz above the boardwalk on a zip line.

"Part of the thought process of the ship is to overcome the old myths people have about cruising," Royal Caribbean executive, Richard Fain, said.

"It's very hard to look at a vessel like this and think that cruising is secondary when you can choose rock-climbing, surfing or zip-lining."

Mr Fain said the ship, which will be sailing mainly in the Caribbean, had attracted strong pre-bookings despite the global financial crisis and said the aim was to lure new customers who have not cruised before.

There is however still spots left for the ship's maiden voyage in December.

The vessel is scheduled to leave Finland today when it will set sail for its home port of Fort Lauderdale in the US, where it will arrive in about two weeks.

Oasis of the Seas will make its four-night maiden voyage from Fort Lauderdale to Labadee in Haiti on December 1.

With no plans of cruising Down Under, Australians will be able to book a seven night Inaugural Eastern Caribbean Cruise for $1519 or the four night Labadee Extravaganza Cruise starting from $859 with Royal Caribbean.

With AFP

Gallery Pictures: Onboard the Oasis of the Seas

Related story Trend: Love of cruising reaches record high

Enlarge In-depth: All the latest travel news
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26280589-5006180,00.html

vera susa
31-10-2009, 01:08 PM
Now do pay close attention to
The Poem by a Scots National Poet
that Stephen Fry recites at the end...

What rhymes with purple?
- Qi - BBC
What rhymes with purple? - Qi - BBC - YouTube



Where do apples come from? - Qi - BBC
Where do apples come from? - Qi - BBC - YouTube

tracker
31-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Vera Susa ---------
you are a dedicated , strong spiritual example of a good human being with a definate charactor integrety that shines beyond many .

it is so nice to see .

:cool:

vera susa
31-10-2009, 02:57 PM
Vera Susa ---------
you are a dedicated , strong spiritual example of a good human being with a definate charactor integrety that shines beyond many .

it is so nice to see .

:cool:

:o wow, thank you ... just, thank you :)

vera susa
31-10-2009, 03:13 PM
And the excuses to
further 'fix the holes in the hedge',
continue ...



World Breaking News

Two killed,
four wounded in Thai south

Agence France-Presse

October 31, 2009 07:28pm

SUSPECTED Islamic insurgents shot and killed two people
and wounded three others in a bomb blast in
Thailand's troubled Muslim-majority south, police said.

Gunmen broke into a house in Yala province and shot dead a 16-year-old Buddhist girl, also wounding her 29-year-old husband, they said.

A police officer, a soldier and a civilian defence volunteer were wounded when a bomb exploded as they went to inspect the scene.

Also in Yala, militants handcuffed a 42-year-old Muslim defence volunteer and shot him execution-style in the head before dumping the body in a road on Saturday, they said.

More than 3900 people have died in shootings, bomb blasts, beheadings and crucifixions since a separatist insurgency erupted in Thailand's southern provinces bordering Malaysia in January 2004.



World Breaking News

Typhoon smashes
storm-weary Philippines

Agence France-Presse

October 31, 2009 11:34pm

TYPHOON Mirinae has
smashed through the Philippines,
killing 11 people and worsening floods
in areas that were struggling to recover
from recent deadly storms,
officials say.
The typhoon,
packing winds of up to 185km/h,
is the third major storm to hit the
Philippines' main island of Luzon
in just five weeks,
with the previous two
claiming more than 1100 lives.

In Manila, areas that have been flooded since Tropical Storm Ketsana struck in late September were hit with more heavy rain today, while residents in other districts were forced onto their roofs to escape rising waters.

"We need help because the waters have risen. We need rubber boats and choppers," Ariel Magcales, the mayor of Santa Cruz town on Manila's outskirts, said.

"Some people are on the roofs of their houses."

Military and police rescue boats worked to save people who were trapped by a flash flood, officials said.

One man was found dead and his one-year-old baby was missing
after they were washed away while trying to cross an overflowing creek
in a rural area on the outskirts of Manila, the military said.

Related Coverage

* Typhoon knocks out power in Philippines
NEWS.com.au, 31 Oct 2009
* New typhoon threatens Philippines
NEWS.com.au, 21 Oct 2009
* Flood-born disease kills 89
NEWS.com.au, 17 Oct 2009
* Manila floods 2009NEWS.com.au,
* Philippine storm death toll hits 712
NEWS.com.au, 14 Oct 2009


Three people were reported dead and five others were missing in Laguna province just south of Manila, the local disaster monitoring office said.

Seven people died in the Bicol region, south of Manila, mostly from flash floods, local disaster monitoring officials said.

Another man was missing from a Manila slum district after his hut was washed away, while two others were missing in Batangas province south of Manila after their car fell into a river when a bridge collapsed, civil defence spokesman Ernesto Torres said.

Tropical Storm Ketsana, which struck on September 26, caused massive flooding in Manila. Outlying districts that are home to more than a million people were expected to remain flooded into the New Year even before Mirinae hit.

Navy and coast guard boats had been sent to Santa Cruz to rescue people, according to Torres, who said Defence Secretary Gilberto Teodoro was heading to the area to check on the extent of flooding and damage.

"The waters were really high. It was like a flash flood. It was waist deep in our area but in other areas it went as high as the rooftops," traffic director Marlon Albay said.

The highway to the town was covered by knee-high waters, preventing smaller vehicles from reaching it and prompting the military to send huge trucks to help residents, according to an AFP photographer.

Hundreds of residents in these areas were seen wading through the dirty waters.

Other towns in Laguna reported flooding, along with areas in the Bicol region further to the south, Torres said.

However, more than 115,000 people had been evacuated from vulnerable regions before the typhoon hit, which likely prevented more deaths, Mr Torres said.

The typhoon caused power outages and knocked down trees across many areas of Manila, a sprawling city of 12 million people.

It also forced flights to be suspended from Manila's international airport.

Ferries, a popular form of transport in the South-East Asian archipelago, were also cancelled, ruining travel plans for many who were hoping to head to their hometowns for the All Saints' Day long-weekend public holiday.

As of 5pm (8pm AEDT), the typhoon had left Luzon and was charted 670km west of Manila, moving away from the country at 20km/h, the government weather station said.

"The worst is over for Metro Manila," weather forecaster Nathaniel Cruz said.

vera susa
31-10-2009, 03:55 PM
And in a gruesome way,
Wiki brings us here today...


Adobe pyramid at Cahuachi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Cahuachi_14.jpg


Killer Whale,
Nasca Culture,
pottery,
Larco Museum.
Lima, Perú
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Orca_mitica_nasca.jpg


The geoglyph of Cuzco, map E.G. Squier, c. 1860.
The fortification Sacsahuman (north of the town)
represents the head of an animal
(El Puma Yacente, puma lying down),
the back, legs and tail of the animal
are recognizable in the patterns of the town,
the backshape follows a mountainriver,
the feet are standing on the shore of the river Sapi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Cuzco1860.jpg


Puquios is a name given to
an old system of aqueducts
near the city of Nazca, Peru.
http://www.rutahsa.com/Puquios-air.jpg



Modern examples
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/You_Yangs_Bunjil_geoglyph.JPG
Bunjil geoglyph at the
You Yangs, Lara, Australia,
by Andrew Rogers.
The creature has a wing span
of 100 metres and
1500 tonnes of rock
was used to construct it.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/2306/image003.jpg


Melbourne in Infrared
from the You Yangs
http://www.dimagemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/melbourne.jpg

TWISTER OVER YOU YANGS
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200705/r143660_499374.jpg


Steven Spielberg,
Tom Hanks
bring Hollywood to
the You Yangs
(+slideshow)

Kerri-Ann Hobbs

November 9th, 2007
ACTION: Actors were put through their paces
at the You Yangs yesterday as they prepared to film
the Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks mini-series
The Pacific. Photos: MIKE DUGDALE
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2007/11/08/pacific006.jpg
ACTION: Actors were put through their paces
at the You Yangs yesterday as they prepared to film
the Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks mini-series
The Pacific. Photos: MIKE DUGDALE
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2007/11/09/8739_news.html
EXCLUSIVE HOLLYWOOD arrived at the You Yangs this week as scores of crew, cast and extras began filming the Tom Hanks-Steven Spielberg epic The Pacific.
Slideshow: Hollywood in You Yangs

The Sandy Creek Rd sand quarry was transformed into an up-market camping ground and staging post for the $150 million mini-series, with dozens of hired trucks, cars, people movers, luxury buses and campervans jockeying for position with casting tents for Hollywood stars and extras.

United States Marine Corp drill sergeants began the task of transforming extras into soldiers, showing them the basics of military drill minus the yelling and abuse usually associated with that role.

Junior crew were not sure whether Hanks, considered one of the most bankable male stars, would take a more hands-on role during the Victorian leg of the shoot.

``He flew in and out in Port Douglas but I don't know if he will be coming here,'' a source said.

``It would be pure speculation on my part.''

The Pacific is a companion piece to the award-winning Band of Brothers and follows the journeys of three US marines fighting the Japanese in the Pacific during World War II.

Part of the epic was shot in far North Queensland near Cairns,
on a privately-owned beach-front property.

It is expected a crew of several hundred will be based in the region until about March.

It is believed the film-makers would also use
300 American and Japanese extras.

vera susa
31-10-2009, 04:27 PM
This Combination of "Global Bill Boards",
is not unimportant...

Release date(s) March 2010 (Estimated)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/ThePacificIntertitle.jpg



The Pacific is a World War II
television drama miniseries,
produced by HBO,
Seven Network Australia
and Dreamworks,
which is currently in production.

It is similar, although unrelated,
to Band of Brothers.

Whereas Band of Brothers focused on
Army's involvement in
the European Theater of Operations,
the new series will be about
the Marine Corps's actions
in the Pacific Theater of Operations.

The Pacific is being spearheaded
by Bruce McKenna (co-executive producer),
who was one of the main writers on
Band of Brothers.
Hugh Ambrose,
the son of Band of Brothers author
Stephen Ambrose,
will serve as a project consultant
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww94/stixable/band-of-brothers.jpg
http://gedmaheux.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the_pacific.png
http://www.dimagemaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/melbourne.jpg
Melbourne in Infrared
from the You Yangs
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/3029082334_394dcb6fe0.jpg
http://www.history.com/minisites/bandofbrothers/images/bob_400x300_image.jpg
band of brothers


You Yangs - more info »
Little River VIC 3340
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&q=you%20yangs%20map&ndsp=20&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il&start=0

vera susa
31-10-2009, 05:06 PM
Give it at least to 3:20 minutes,
then you'll be hooked...or accept,
you'll never 'get me' either...;):D

Demetri Martin - If I 1 of 6
Demetri Martin - If I 1 of 6 - YouTube



... and at least from 2:00 minutes...

Demetri Martin - If I 6 of 6
Demetri Martin - If I 6 of 6 - YouTube

faraday
31-10-2009, 06:31 PM
[COLOR="Blue"]Give it at least to 3:20 minutes,
then you'll be hooked...or accept,
you'll never 'get me' either...;):D
[SIZE="5"]
Demetri Martin - If I 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKnzPHtf9u4



It was too intellectual for me.My mind tuned out :p;):D

vera susa
31-10-2009, 06:32 PM
MULTIMEDIA
SLIDESHOW:
Dogs on the run
Dogs on the run
29 Oct 09 |
THE third annual K9 Cup
has been run and won
for another year at
Coolalie Lal Lal Estate Yendon.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/slideshowplayer.aspx?id=9387

http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/largefront/632311.jpg
Tropical storm lights city sky
BRIEF thunderstorms
lashed Ballarat and
Victoria's Western District last night
but did little to cool summer-like temperatures.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/tropical-storm-lights-city-sky/1664381.aspx

Final 2009 Melbourne Cup Field
and Barrier Draw –
The complete list of 24 starters

1 VIEWED 9 Bart Cummings Brad Rawiller 58.0
2 C’EST LA GUERRE 7 John Sadler Nick Hall 55.5
3 FIUMICINO 24 M, W & J Hawkes Steven King 55.5
4 MASTER O’REILLY 16 Danny O’Brien Vlad Duric 55.0
5 MOURILYAN 14 Herman Brown Glyn Schofield 54.5
6 ROMAN EMPEROR 15 Bart Cummings Hugh Bowman 54.0
7 ISTA KAREEM 23 Colin Little Luke Nolen 53.5
8 CRIME SCENE 11 Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 53.0
9 MUNSEF (GB) 5 Ian Williams Zac Purton 53.0
10 ZAVITE (NZ) 12 Anthony Cummings Mark Zahra 53.0
11 ALCOPOP 12 Jake Stephens Dom Tourneur 52.5
12 HARRIS TWEED (NZ) 20 M & B Baker Craig Newitt 52.5
13 KIBBUTZ (NZ) 8 Jarrod McLean Chris Symons 52.5
14 NEWPORT 18 Paul Perry Peter Wells 52.5
15 WARRINGAH (GB) 17 Chris Waller Damien Oliver 52.5
16 GALLIONS REACH (NZ) 6 Richard Yuill Dwayne Dunn 52.0
17 SPIN AROUND 10 Steven Cooper Mark Du Plessis 52.0
18 BASALTICO (IRE) 10 Luca Cumani Danny Nikolic 51.5
19 CAPECOVER (NZ) 19 Alexander Fields Noel Harris 51.5
20 DAFFODIL (NZ) 21 Kevin Gray Chris Munce 51.5
21 SHOCKING 22 Mark Kavanagh Corey Brown 51.0
22 ALLEZ WONDER 13 Bart Cummings Michelle Payne 50.5
23 CHANGINGOFTHEGUARD (IRE) 1 David Hayes Glen Boss 50.5
24 LEICA DING 2 Darren Weir Craig Williams 50.5

... a friend asked me to pick a winner;
I 'can't' gamble...anyway, Daffodil caught my eye,
knew nothing of it, haven't been following the horses
or the news, so I Google it, and the First two pages I open:

Munce's hopes blossom
with perfect match

John Schell
September 21, 2009

In demand …
natural lightweight Chris Munce
will have to make 51.5 kilograms
to ride Kiwi mare Daffodil.
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In demand …
natural lightweight Chris Munce
will have to make 51.5 kilograms
to ride Kiwi mare Daffodil.
Photo: Chris Lane

CHRIS MUNCE
has picked up the prized
Caulfield and Melbourne cups ride
on Kiwi mare Daffodil
following her group 1 victory
in the Windsor Park Plate
(1600 metres) in New Zealand
at the weekend.

''I've been speaking to the connections of Daffodil since her win and I've got the ride on her in the cups, I am looking forward to getting on her,'' Munce told the Herald yesterday.

Daffodil won the AJC Australian Oaks in the autumn with Hugh Bowman in the saddle but with the four-year-old having just 51.5 kilograms in the Caulfield and Melbourne cups, the ride in the feature group 1s went Munce's way.

''She looks to be a very strong stayer,'' Munce said.

''She was dominant in her win in the oaks in Sydney in the autumn and after her first couple of runs back from a spell back home in New Zealand she looks to have come back in pretty good shape, too.

''She has followed a second and a fourth at home with a strong-finishing win in group 1 company in New Zealand on Saturday and she has already proven herself to be a good stayer. She is a great ride to have for the cups.''

Munce said he spoke with Mark Chittick, son of the owners of Daffodil, yesterday, and secured the lightweight cups ride.

The rider already has his Cox Plate mount secured in the shape of the Patinack Farm-owned three-year-old Onemorenomore, which will contest the George Main Stakes at weight-for-age against multiple group 1 winner Racing To Win at Randwick on Saturday.

Onemorenomore is then expected to progress to the group 1 Caulfield Guineas in a clash with star performer Denman and the Patinack-owned Trusting before heading to the Cox Plate at Moonee Valley on October 24. ''He is a good horse, he won the Champagne Stakes at group-1 level as a two-year-old and you have to be good to win a race like that,'' Munce said.

Onemorenomore was just behind the placegetters in the Ming Dynasty Quality at Randwick last time out when racing on the speed in the race won by More Than Great, which edged out the Caulfield Guineas-bound So You Think.

Munce will also link with the Patinack-owned Run For Narra in the Reginald Allen Quality, while he will also partner Sheraco Stakes winner and last-start second placegetter Madame Pedrille in The Nivison.

''Madame Pedrille is going great,'' Munce said. ''It took a top quality mare in Hot Danish to beat her last time out at Rosehill. Madame Pedrille has a great turn of foot, she is a top-quality performer. I have no doubt she can bounce back to winning form in The Nivison.''

Meanwhile, last year's AJC Australian Derby winner and Caulfield Cup runner-up Nom Du Jeu finished second in yesterday's listed Karaka Classic at Pukekohe, south of Auckland. Trainers Murray and Bjorn Baker hadn't been entirely happy with Nom Du Jeu's preparation on the training tracks before the Pukekohe race, but the son of Montjeu showed a glimpse of his best form with the effort.

Nom Du Jeu is still in the reckoning for a start in the Cox Plate, however, ''bone bruising'' ruled him out of the Caulfield and Melbourne cups, races he contested last spring.

The first official two-year-old barrier trials of the new season will be held at Randwick this morning.

Patinack's racing manager Mark Webbey said Nathan Tinkler's thoroughbred racing and breeding giant might have up to five youngsters trialling, with the heats acting as qualifiers for the Breeders Plate and Gimcrack Stakes. They will be decided at Randwick on Saturday week when the Epsom and Metropolitan will also be run.

~~~~~~~~


New Zealanders jump on board
Daffodil
at 16-1 to win the Melb Cup

October 31st, 2009

Whilst other horses have firmed
Daffodil is now 16-1 to win the Melbourne Cup
with Centrebet.
The Caulfield Cup formline looks strong
and she has already proven she can stay
when she won he AJC Oaks.

16-1 represents excellent value
and reason to get the early value
before Tuesday

2009 Melbourne Cup Odds –
Centrebet as at 31st October, 2009

Viewed 6.50
C`est la Guerre 21.00
Fiumicino 61.00
Master O`Reilly 14.00
Mourilyan 17.00
Roman Emperor 8.00
Ista Kareem 101.00
Crime Scene 41.00
Munsef 34.00
Zavite 61.00
Alcopop 5.50
Harris Tweed 151.00
Kibbutz 71.00
Newport 41.00
Warringah 21.00
Gallions Reach 151.00
Spin Around 201.00
Basaltico 31.00
Capecover 101.00

Daffodil 16.00
http://www.racenet.com.au/Breeding/news_images/Daffodil%20oaks.jpg

Shocking 11.00
Allez Wonder 21.00
Changingoftheguard 18.00
Leica Ding 21.00
Categories: Melbourne Cup Odds Tags:
Alcopop and Viewed share Melb Cup favouritism at 5.50 –
Centrebet best odds on Alcopop


The Melbourne Cup market has been signifcantly re-shaped
and bookies will be delighted that
Vigor did not make the final 24 acceptors.
Late money payments from the owners of Gallion Reach
sealed the fate of Vigor. Outside of Alcopop and Viewed,
there is Roman Emperor at 8-1, Mater O-Reilly at 12-1,
together with Shocking at 12-1. CHanging of the Guard
has moved into betting cotention and is now 18-1.

In my opinion, there is only a small number of winning chances
in this years Melbourne Cup. I think the depth of the field drops away
significantly outside of the top 6-7 betting picks.
However, in saying that the Melbourne Cup has a history of horses
which pull out a big run – recent examples include On a Jeune 2nd
to Makybe Diva, Zazzman & She’s Archie.
http://www.mygarden.ws/Narcissus%20pseudonarcissus%20Lobularis%20the%20Te nby%20Daffodil.jpg

vera susa
31-10-2009, 07:21 PM
Police call centre
waits for budget

BY FIONA HENDERSON
30/10/2009 12:09:00 AM

MOVING statewide regional police communications
into ESTA's Mt Helen headquarters
will hinge solely on next year's state budget,
according to Ballarat East MLA Geoff Howard.

Although he was hopeful funding will be provided in the 2010-11 budget, there are no guarantees.

"I'm certainly confident it will go as a proposal in the budget process," Mr Howard said.

"I'll make sure it gets a good hearing and hopefully it will fall within next year's budget."

Mr Howard said comments by
Premier John Brumby earlier this week
that emergency services communications
would be moved to Ballarat next year
had been taken out of context.

"When it was discussed in the budget estimates this year,
it was decided the CFA and ambulance service
would move to Mt Helen, in line with priorities set out
by ESTA (Emergency Services Telecommunications Authority),"

Mr Howard said.

"They'll be tying down costings on moving the police as part of next year's budget process."

Mr Howard said there was no final figure on how much it would cost, but it was expected to be several million dollars.

Regional police still use an analogue radio system incompatible with the metropolitan digital system _ a situation criticised in the Bushfires Royal Commission.

Opposition police spokesman Andrew McIntosh said
it was an unacceptable situation heading into bushfire season.

"There are profound concerns being expressed by
community interest groups, particularly police," Mr McIntosh said.

He said the government had to announce when
regional police communications were going to change
to digital and move to ESTA.

Ballarat police communications, D24,
is currently based at Humffray St Nth.

Mr McIntosh also said up to 100 police statewide
were currently being used as call takers.

"They could be on the front line instead."

naeem82
01-11-2009, 12:10 AM
vera what do you make of abdullah suddenly stepping down out of the run off elections in afghanistan? karzai is proven to be doing vote fraud, and his OPPONENT steps out? coercion?

vera susa
01-11-2009, 01:19 AM
vera what do you make of abdullah suddenly stepping down out of the run off elections in afghanistan? karzai is proven to be doing vote fraud, and his OPPONENT steps out? coercion?

I'd say, just going by this little bit,
an image from a U.S. source, and
update and background from the U.K.'s
BBC, Mr Abdullah Abdullah is a 'smart man'
who knows he 'can't' win now,
but intends to come back ...
and those ballot boxes, far from secure,
in warehousing, handling and transport....

... and of course it also means someone
on the losing side, is going to get pissed off,
and off they'll go again...


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Workers transport ballot boxes on a trolley
to be loaded on trucks at the
Independent Election Commission compound
in Kabul.
Taliban fighters have warned Afghans not to take part
in the country's Nov. 7 presidential runoff election.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114114545


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Abdullah to make run-off decision
Abdullah Abdullah (26 October 2009)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46643000/jpg/_46643572_abdullahabdullahap226b.jpg
Saturday is the deadline Mr Abdullah
has set for his "minimum conditions"

President Hamid Karzai's rival in the second round
of the Afghan presidential poll
says he will announce on Sunday
whether he intends to quit the race.

Mr Abdullah Abdullah called for
the resignation of key election officials
and others as a way to mitigate
fraud and corruption in the vote.

'Nothing has changed'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8335194.stm

Profile: Abdullah Abdullah
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46579000/jpg/_46579577_abdul_afp226i.jpg
Mr Abdullah has played a key role
in Afghanistan's foreign affairs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1672882.stm

vera susa
01-11-2009, 01:41 AM
And this one just rattles me in so many ways,
I don't know where to begin, so won't ...

BBC NEWS
The Big Picture: Come, been and gone

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46628000/jpg/_46628770_clark.jpg

Dancers from Michael Clark Company
perform part of, come, been and gone,
which was commissioned as part of
European Network of Performing Arts,
and runs 28 October-7 November 2009
at the Barbican, London.

The new work which premiered at
the Edinburgh Festival 2009,
evolves from Michael Clark's admiration for
the music of rock's holy trinity,
David Bowie,
Iggy Pop and
Lou Reed,
who worked in close proximity
during the 1970s.
Dancers include
Benjamin Warbis,
Simon Williams,
Melissa Hetherington,
Kate Coyne,
Oxana Panchenko and
Clair Thomas.

Michael Clark Company

Photo: Emma Lynch/BBC

Previous photo: Collision

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46623000/jpg/_46623447_ship-for-p.jpg
Officers inspect the damaged bow of
the Japanese naval ship Kurama
in the port of Moji,
following a collision with
the South Korean container ship
Carina Star
in a nearby channel.

Photo by: Jiji Press/AFP

Previous photo: Gentle giant
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46615000/jpg/_46615629_big-picture-27-10.jpg
Next photo: Come, been and gone

vera susa
01-11-2009, 01:53 AM
Bill Bailey - Part Troll (Part 3 of 10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTtzUcJtjA&feature=related

Obama vows to halt US ban
on travellers with HIV

WASHINGTON
November 1, 2009

A TRAVEL ban on people infected with HIV
travelling to the United States
will be overturned early next year.

The order will be completed tomorrow,
US President Barack Obama said,
finishing a process begun
during the Bush administration.

The US is one of about a dozen countries barring entry to travellers based on their HIV status. The ban has been in place for more than 20 years. Mr Obama said it would be lifted just after the new year.

''If we want to be a global leader in combating HIV/AIDS, we need to act like it,'' Mr Obama said on Friday at the White House, before signing a bill to extend the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program. Begun in 1990, the program provides medical care, medication and support services to about half a million Americans with HIV or AIDS.

The bill is named after a teenager who contracted AIDS through a blood transfusion at age 13. Ryan White went on to fight AIDS-related discrimination in the late 1980s. He died in 1990 at 18.

In 1987, at a time of widespread fear and ignorance about HIV, the Department of Health and Human Services added the disease to the list of communicable diseases that disqualified a person from entering the US.

The department tried in 1991 to reverse its decision but was opposed by Congress. The law has effectively kept out thousands of students, tourists and refugees, and complicated the adoption of children with HIV. No international AIDS conference has been held in the US since 1993 because HIV-positive activists or researchers could not enter.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs129.snc1/5532_1135686996764_1365022414_30563517_2290972_n.j pg

vera susa
01-11-2009, 02:01 AM
Obama vows to halt US ban
on travellers with HIV

WASHINGTON
November 1, 2009

A TRAVEL ban on people infected with HIV
travelling to the United States
will be overturned early next year.

The order will be completed tomorrow,
US President Barack Obama said,
finishing a process begun
during the Bush administration.

The US is one of about a dozen countries barring entry to travellers based on their HIV status. The ban has been in place for more than 20 years. Mr Obama said it would be lifted just after the new year.

''If we want to be a global leader in combating HIV/AIDS, we need to act like it,'' Mr Obama said on Friday at the White House, before signing a bill to extend the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program. Begun in 1990, the program provides medical care, medication and support services to about half a million Americans with HIV or AIDS.

The bill is named after a teenager who contracted AIDS through a blood transfusion at age 13. Ryan White went on to fight AIDS-related discrimination in the late 1980s. He died in 1990 at 18.

In 1987, at a time of widespread fear and ignorance about HIV, the Department of Health and Human Services added the disease to the list of communicable diseases that disqualified a person from entering the US.

The department tried in 1991 to reverse its decision but was opposed by Congress. The law has effectively kept out thousands of students, tourists and refugees, and complicated the adoption of children with HIV. No international AIDS conference has been held in the US since 1993 because HIV-positive activists or researchers could not enter.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs129.snc1/5532_1135686996764_1365022414_30563517_2290972_n.j pg

... and meanwhile, we're not letting in
real refos...

Tamils send a message to Rudd
TOM ALLARD IN TANJUNG PINANG
November 1, 2009

MOST of the Sri Lankan asylum seekers
in a stand-off with Australian authorities
off the coast of the Riau Islands
have been living in Indonesia for years,
providing the Rudd Government with leverage
to convince Indonesia to take them back.

Australian officials see the development as a possible circuit-breaker
to the two-week impasse that has caused the Government much political
and diplomatic anguish.

In written messages thrown off the Oceanic Viking, the Australian Customs ship housing 78 ethnic Tamils for the past two weeks, asylum seekers said they had been living in Indonesia for up to five years and had been accepted by the United Nations office in Jakarta as genuine refugees. They said they hired a people smuggler out of their frustration that no country would accept them.

''For four to five years we waited until we are tired before departing illegally by boat,'' read the message thrown to The Sun-Herald, written in Indonesian. It insisted the Sri Lankans had arrived in Indonesia ''normally'' some years back.

Part of the Indonesian justification for not taking the Sri Lankans is that they are refusing to be registered by immigration officials. But it appears, they have already been registered because the UN High Commissioner for Refugees does not process asylum-seekers unless they have been registered by Indonesia first.

After the Australian Navy picked up the Tamils in Indonesia's search and rescue zone two weeks ago, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd believed he had an agreement with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono for Indonesia to take them. But the deal has unravelled in the past week.

The asylum seekers said Australian officials had told them they would ''like to have us leave the boat this week''. But they are refusing to budge and have pleaded for international sympathy.

Indonesia says it will not remove the Sri Lankans by force and has given Australia until Friday to convince them to voluntarily set foot in Indonesia.

Yesterday senior Australian embassy officials boarded the Oceanic Viking and some of its crew were replaced.

The Federal Government also confirmed the capacity of the Christmas Island detention centre will be increased to more than 2000. Immigration Minister Chris Evans said ''the Government is very much committed to ensuring there's mandatory detention of unauthorised boat arrivals.''

vera susa
01-11-2009, 02:10 AM
:):D:) WIKIPEDIA ...

Today's featured picture
Cripps Pink apples
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pink_lady_and_cross_section.jpg/500px-Pink_lady_and_cross_section.jpg
Two whole Cripps Pink apples
and a cross-section of a third.
More commonly known
by the trademarked name
"Pink Lady",
this apple cultivar
was originally bred by
John Cripps by crossing the
Australian apple Lady Williams with
a Golden Delicious.
The apple shape is ellipsoid,
it has a distinctive pink hue
mixed with a green "background,"
and taste is tart. ... :D:);)

vera susa
01-11-2009, 03:28 AM
Media Release

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CSIRO Chief Executive Dr Megan Clark and
Orica Managing Director Graeme Liebelt
signing the research agreement.

CSIRO enters landmark research alliance with Orica
Reference: 09/203

CSIRO today signed a five-year,
$25m strategic research alliance agreement
with one of Australia's leading public companies –
Orica Limited.
1 November 2009

CSIRO's Chief Executive Dr Megan Clark said the alliance will strengthen Australia's science capability in areas of importance to both organisations, with the objective of improving the international competitiveness of Australian industry.

"The alliance will engage our programs in manufacturing, materials and minerals, embracing three of CSIRO's National Research Flagships: Future Manufacturing, Minerals Down Under, and Energy Transformed," Dr Clark said.

Orica is a leading publicly owned company based in Australia. It is also one of the few truly global Australian-based companies, employing around 15,000 people, with operations in around 50 countries and customers in twice that many.
"Orica and CSIRO have a long history of collaboration and cooperation to produce innovations of value to the mining and chemicals industries and broader community."
Mr Graeme Liebelt, Orica Managing Director

Orica Managing Director Graeme Liebelt welcomed the ongoing collaboration with CSIRO.

"Orica and CSIRO have a long history of collaboration and cooperation to produce innovations of value to the mining and chemicals industries and broader community. This agreement captures the capabilities of both organisations and aims to deliver further ongoing benefit from newly developed technology," Mr Liebelt said.

With access to CSIRO's world class experts and facilities,
the alliance will focus on projects over three time horizons:

* Development of long-term R&D capability
to benefit Orica and Australia

* Strategic R&D over the medium to longer term
to implement joint capability and
to establish new business initiatives

* Tactical projects that will benefit current business activities
over the short to medium-term, particularly those related to
the mining and infrastructure industry sectors.

"The alliance with Orica is testament to CSIRO’s commitment
to not only engage with and support Australian industry,
but also to continue to develop Australia’s science capability,"
Dr Clark said.

Read more media releases in our Media section.
http://www.csiro.au/news/CSIRO-enters-landmark-research-alliance-with-Orica.html



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vera susa
01-11-2009, 06:59 AM
Making the Europeans More
"At Home" ...



National Breaking News

Melbourne to get European-style
bike hire program

AAP

November 01, 2009 01:56pm

VICTORIA'S RACV motoring association has won a contract to roll out a European-style bike hire system in central Melbourne.

The RACV, in partnership with Alta, a US-based organisation that specialises in urban design, was announced today as winners of the State Government tender.

The program will initially provide 600 bicycles across 50 sites around the City of Melbourne, including Federation Square, Southern Cross station and parliament house.

A Department of Transport spokeswoman said the first 30 minutes of bike hire would be free, but longer trips would incur much higher fees.

"We're obviously trying to encourage short-term use,'' she said.

All users would also have to pay a daily, weekly, monthly or annual subscription fee, she said.

RACV general manager Gordon Oakley said in a statement that Alta's experience in operating bike-share programs would help transform the city into a more bicycle-friendly precinct.

"This is a fantastic opportunity for those living and working in and around Melbourne to jump on a bike to get to and from work rather than use a car and for those visiting our beautiful city to explore it by bike," Mr Oakley said.

The scheme is expected to begin mid-2010.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 07:12 AM
Biggest livestock ship
in record voyage
with 22000 animals
Siba's DENEB PRIMA
delivers largest shipment
of livestock from Australia
to South East Asia
http://www.shippingtimes.co.uk/item737_siba.htm
http://www.shippingtimes.co.uk/images/deneb_prima.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/09/28/758032/Oasis-of-the-Seas-Sea-Trial-4-600x400.jpg
World's largest cruise ship takes shape
The Oasis of the Seas during sea trials
earlier this year.
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/mega-cruise-ship-squeezes-under-bridge-20091101-hr88.html

vera susa
01-11-2009, 07:28 AM
Bring Harry Potter to Ballarat

Mitchell Toy
* From: Sunday Herald Sun
* November 01, 2009 12:00AM

BALLARAT'S Kryal Castle could be transformed
into a Harry Potter theme park.

Ballarat tourism boss Doug Sarah said the castle, which has failed to attract a buyer since being on and off the market since 2007, was the perfect site for a Hogwarts-style attraction based on J.K. Rowling's novels.

The former president of Sovereign Hill said billionaire author Rowling could even be called on to help fund the Potter scheme, which could include accommodation, ghost tours and a flying broomsticks display.

"Kids have read the books and watched the movies, now they should be able to go to a place and see magic shows and other displays to experience it," Ballarat Destinations Board chairman Mr Sarah said.

"I'm happy to be upfront and go and talk to J.K. Rowling so that she could at minimum become a patron of the plan and at maximum put in some money."

Related Coverage

* Judging the judges
The Australian, 2 Oct 2009
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Herald Sun, 17 Sep 2009
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Fox Sports, 3 Aug 2009
* Powell set to run in Stawell Gift
Perth Now, 15 Jul 2009
* 3 Acts of Murder
Perth Now,

End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.

Kryal Castle co-owner Joyce Ryall said the idea could fly.

"I'm absolutely all for it, if the funding and planning is there," Ms Ryall said.

"As it is, a medieval castle has limited appeal. But a theme park of any description would be a great attraction."

Kryal Castle is now a historical education attraction and function centre.

Ballarat residents are split over the Hogwarts idea, but Mr Sarah said it would create jobs and add to Ballarat's other attractions, including Sovereign Hill and the Ballarat Wildlife Park.

"We want people to come and stay in Ballarat for a week, and have everything to entertain them," he said.

"Build it and they will come."

http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/large/628287.jpg
POTTER PALACE: Ballarat's 'medieval landmark,
Kryal Castle


Harry Potter proposal for Kryal Castle
BY NICK HIGGINS AND MARCUS POWER
23/10/2009 11:59:00 PM

KRYAL Castle is perfectly suited to being transformed
into a Harry Potter theme park,
according to Destination Ballarat's chairman Doug Sarah.

He said the bluestone castle,
which has been advertised for sale in recent years,
would make an ideal "school of wizardry",
based on the books by JK Rowling
which have been made into a series of successful films.

Mr Sarah said the 35-year-old attraction
was in a location easily accessed by visitors from Melbourne
and a wizard theme park would complement existing attractions
such as Sovereign Hill and the Ballarat Wildlife Park.

He said it was perfectly situated at the entrance to Ballarat.

Mr Sarah said the Ballarat Railway Station
could also be used to link in with the theme park.

In the Harry Potter stories the characters depart for
Hogwarts School of Wizardry from an historic railway station
with a secret platform "nine and three quarters".

Mr Sarah said the theme park would fit in
with the City of Ballarat's Come to Life theme
and the motto of "live, work, play, invest".

"I think this is an idea that could work," he said.

Mr Sarah said he first discussed the idea
with theme park operators about two years ago but,
while the response had been positive,
the global economic downturn had meant the idea had gone no further.

A Harry Potter theme park is due to open early next year
in Orlando, Florida.

The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, still under development,
is described online at www.universalorlandoresort.com/ha rrypotter
as a "completely immersive experience" that will
"transcend generations and bring the wonder and life of the amazingly detailed books and films of Harry Potter to life".

Castle co-owner Joyce Ryall said she was open to the idea.

"We'd need to have a look at the proposed concept."

"But it's not going to happen without an input of money (and) someone who's serious about doing it."

The opportunity for such a person might come soon.

The castle was put up for sale in 2007,
but had since been taken off the market.

Mrs Ryall said her family would make a decision about whether to put the attraction back up for sale in the next six months.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 09:06 AM
Anywhere else in the world and this
Beach Park (where I taught myself to swim:D;))
WOULD Be World Famous...

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/11/01/1225793/222869-lightening-geelong.jpg
Reader Peter Redmond
snapped this photo of the lightning over Geelong
looking west towards the historic promenade.


Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/
Galleries:
Your pictures as storms hit Victoria
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/photo-gallery/gallery-e6frf94x-1225793222406?page=1

Point is, this is a SYDNEY Paper Featuring GEELONG Storms,
and Sydney always has really cool storms .... but a great reason
to SHOW all those 'Yachties' crowding Sydney, another Big, Alive,
Civilised Sailors City by a Historic Bay ...
http://www.totaltravel.com.au/guide/photos/geelong/ironwill-eastern-beach.jpg
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2972540-Eastern_Beach_fountain-Geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/Eastern_Beach%2C_Geelong.jpg/775px-Eastern_Beach%2C_Geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Eastern_beach_kiosk_geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Eastern_beach_pavilion_geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Eastern_beach_boardwalk_geelong.jpg

... oh, Eastern Beach is that GREEN BIT, BETWEEN "CITY",
and that WATER of THE BAY...an Hour SOUTH of MELBOURNE
and BALLARAT...it's the Port we DEFEATED GERMANY and SPAIN
from, in the WOOL WARS of the 1800's, from what 20,000 odd thousand
miles away...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Geelong_metropolitan_map.gif

vera susa
01-11-2009, 09:13 AM
Anywhere else in the world and this
Beach Park (where I taught myself to swim:D;))
WOULD Be World Famous...

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/11/01/1225793/222869-lightening-geelong.jpg
Reader Peter Redmond
snapped this photo of the lightning over Geelong
looking west towards the historic promenade.


Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/
Galleries:
Your pictures as storms hit Victoria
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/photo-gallery/gallery-e6frf94x-1225793222406?page=1

Point is, this is a SYDNEY Paper Featuring GEELONG Storms,
and Sydney always has really cool storms .... but a great reason
to SHOW all those 'Yachties' crowding Sydney, another Big, Alive,
Civilised Sailors City by a Historic Bay ...
http://www.totaltravel.com.au/guide/photos/geelong/ironwill-eastern-beach.jpg
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2972540-Eastern_Beach_fountain-Geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/Eastern_Beach%2C_Geelong.jpg/775px-Eastern_Beach%2C_Geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Eastern_beach_kiosk_geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Eastern_beach_pavilion_geelong.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Eastern_beach_boardwalk_geelong.jpg

... oh, Eastern Beach is that GREEN BIT, BETWEEN "CITY",
and that WATER of THE BAY...an Hour SOUTH of MELBOURNE
and BALLARAT...it's the Port we DEFEATED GERMANY and SPAIN
from, in the WOOL WARS of the 1800's, from what 20,000 odd thousand
miles away...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Geelong_metropolitan_map.gif

EUREKA!
AVALON
LITTLE RIVER
LARA'S YOU YANGS
ISRAEL CROSSED The REED Sea!
NOT the 'Red' Sea, NOWHERE the 'Red' Sea.

REED!

vera susa
01-11-2009, 09:36 AM
... oh, Eastern Beach is that GREEN BIT, BETWEEN "CITY",
and that WATER of THE BAY...an Hour SOUTH of MELBOURNE
and BALLARAT...it's the Port we DEFEATED GERMANY and SPAIN
from, in the WOOL WARS of the 1800's, from what 20,000 odd thousand
miles away...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Geelong_metropolitan_map.gif

EUREKA!
AVALON
LITTLE RIVER
LARA'S YOU YANGS
ISRAEL CROSSED The REED Sea!
NOT the 'Red' Sea, NOWHERE the 'Red' Sea.

REED!

60 Eastern Beach Rd.
4 Brm.
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8141/404208141mm1256019172.jpg
VIEWS, VIEWS, VIEWS = "LOCATION"
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects//props/8141/404208141al1256019173.jpg
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects//props/3769/106113769bl1256990830.jpg

vera susa
01-11-2009, 09:54 AM
... meanwhile ...




World Breaking News

US and South Korea draw up plans
to cope in case of North Korean emergency

From correspondents in Seoul

Agence France-Presse

November 01, 2009 05:00pm

THE US and its ally South Korea have drawn up
a contingency plan to cope with emergencies in North Korea,
including a possible regime change there, a report said.

"Operational Plan (OPLAN) 5029"
was completed by Seoul and Washington recently,
Yonhap news agency said,
quoting an unnamed Seoul source.

It dictates how to respond case-by-case to such emergencies
in North Korea as a civil war, an outflow of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), a mass influx of refugees or a natural disaster, Yonhap said.

Under the plan, the US assumes the role of eliminating North Korea's WMDs, including its nuclear weapons, while South Korean troops play a leading role in most other parts, it said.

Officials at Seoul's Defence Ministry were not immediately available for comment on the report.

North Korea has strongly protested at US-South Korean discussions of contingency plans which it denounces as preparations to invade the communist state.

Such discussions had been suspended under the previous liberal Seoul government which feared such a plan could infringe on its own sovereignty.

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NEWS.com.au, 6 Sep 2009

Yonhap said the discussions resumed after conservative President Lee Myung-Bak took office last year, with the plan completed recently.

"If South Korean-US combined forces intervene in North Korea's internal instabilities, the South Korean military will mostly assume the leading role in consideration of neighbouring countries," the source told Yonhap.

"But the US military will be responsible for the removal of the North's nuclear facilities and weapons."

Both sides are concerned about a possible transfer of the North's WMDs and relevant technology to terrorist groups or other countries, the source said.

The source added South Korea and the US would continue to
complement and develop specific details of the contingency plan.

The two Koreas remain technically at war
after the 1950-1953 Korean conflict
ended in a fragile armistice rather than a peace treaty.

The US stations some 28,500 troops to bolster South Korea's 655,000-strong armed forces against North Korea's 1.2 million-member military.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 04:25 PM
Again, part of PRESERVING Australia
is fine tuning new technologies to apply
here along with new infrastructure.
Oh we do have our pollution, like everywhere else
but that's just it, with all our empty space, we have
this perverse habit constantly reminding ourselves
of what a filthy beast, industry is, which makes us,
super keen to constantly be cleaning the place up...

News in Science
Physicists detect elusive 'magnetricity'

Thursday, 22 October 2009 Michael Slezak
ABC
magnet and iron filings
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200910/r456706_2234164.jpg
The new research confirms several theoretical ideas
about the nature of magnetism and electricity,
says one expert (Source: iStockphoto)

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A team of researchers in the UK have created and measured the magnet equivalent of an electrical current, confirming a prediction made 78 years ago.

The discovery not only closes the gap on our understanding two of nature's fundamental forces, but could see the development of even smaller memory devices in computers and other electronics.

The research, led by Professor Stephen Bramwell of the London Centre for Nanotechnology, appears in the journal Nature.

Unlike 'traditional' magnets, which have a north and south pole, magnetic monopoles have only one.

Creating monopoles isn't as simple as breaking a dipole magnet in half, as this results in two smaller magnets, each with a north and a south pole.
Spin ice

In September, French and German researchers announced that they had found that a material known as spin ice contains monopoles.

Spin ice is made up of particles that each have both a north and a south pole, but unlike other substances, the crystal structure of the material creates 'quasi-particles' that appear to hold a single magnetic charge.

In this latest piece of research Bramwell's team fired sub-atomic particles called muons - which quickly decay into positrons - into spin ice.

The movement of the positrons revealed not only the presence of monopoles in the spin ice, but that the monopoles were moving.

The movement of these monopoles, known as 'magnetricity', was first proposed in 1931 by English physicist Paul Dirac.

Dr Sean Giblin, co-author of the paper, says "the results were astounding."

"We are finally able to confirm that magnetic charge really is conducted through certain materials at certain temperatures - just like the way ions conduct electricity in water."
Confirmation

Dr Andrew Doherty, a senior lecturer in physics at the University of Queensland says the new research confirms several theoretical ideas about the nature of magnetism and electricity.

"There is a deep symmetry in our theories that tell us that we should be able to apply exactly the same rules to magnetic charges that we do to electric charges," he says.

"So one reason why the research is very cool is because of that very strong symmetry, you expect things to behave exactly analogously to electric charges. This is a very direct experimental evidence of that."

Whether magnetricity will find its way into our lives anytime soon is uncertain, but Bramwell believes it could be used as a more compact form of computer memory.

"Who knows what the application
of magnetricity could be in 100 years time."

vera susa
01-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa
When it is ALWAYS a case of INDIVIDUALS,
being CALLED to Answer the DUTY to,
JUSTLY WARN, CORRECT, BLESS,
RE-BUILD and RE-PLANT This Globally
UNIQUE LAND, to be The Point of HEALING
FOR All The World.
Healing, ok, but you say here............

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa
"healing", , is CODE for,
"STFU but if you can't, here we have some more PROPAGANDA
for little battler like you to SELL for us...we'll make you rich & famous,
if you Sell It Well!")
Just one of many 'contradictions'. :cool:

How many times can I stress the word, "CONTEXT",
without it becoming tedious?

I wrote a lot on how all those organisations were, 'set up to shut up',
directing people away from seeking justice, to bottling it all up again,
only calling it something inane, like, "forgiveness".

Whereas when talking about healing the whole world, well, that promise,
I'll keep trusting The One Who Made It, to keep.

This is also the trick argument used to twist scripture, as 'They' love
doing with Proverbs. Advice for surviving in the real world, knowing
how politics and human nature works, while keeping His advice for NOT
Selling Out your spiritual Life. They are NOT contradictions, but if you
read His Word in a spirit contrary to His, you won't hear Him.

faraday
01-11-2009, 05:47 PM
U2 - One - YouTube


And from todays LyricWiki,
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1. Blackened
2. …And Justice for All
3. Eye of the Beholder
4. One
5. The Shortest Straw
6. Harvester of Sorrow
7. The Frayed Ends of Sanity
8. To Live Is to Die
9. Dyers Eve

faraday
01-11-2009, 05:50 PM
Making the Europeans More
"At Home" ...



National Breaking News

Melbourne to get European-style
bike hire program

AAP

November 01, 2009 01:56pm


We will need to give all the immigrants something to do that feels more comfortable for them, when they come.

faraday
01-11-2009, 05:53 PM
Bring Harry Potter to Ballarat

Mitchell Toy
* From: Sunday Herald Sun
* November 01, 2009 12:00AM

BALLARAT'S Kryal Castle could be transformed
into a Harry Potter theme park.

Ballarat tourism boss Doug Sarah said the castle, which has failed to attract a buyer since being on and off the market since 2007, was the perfect site for a Hogwarts-style attraction based on J.K. Rowling's novels.

The former president of Sovereign Hill said billionaire author Rowling could even be called on to help fund the Potter scheme, which could include accommodation, ghost tours and a flying broomsticks display.

"Kids have read the books and watched the movies, now they should be able to go to a place and see magic shows and other displays to experience it," Ballarat Destinations Board chairman Mr Sarah said.

"I'm happy to be upfront and go and talk to J.K. Rowling so that she could at minimum become a patron of the plan and at maximum put in some money."

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Kryal Castle co-owner Joyce Ryall said the idea could fly.

"I'm absolutely all for it, if the funding and planning is there," Ms Ryall said.

"As it is, a medieval castle has limited appeal. But a theme park of any description would be a great attraction."

Kryal Castle is now a historical education attraction and function centre.

Ballarat residents are split over the Hogwarts idea, but Mr Sarah said it would create jobs and add to Ballarat's other attractions, including Sovereign Hill and the Ballarat Wildlife Park.

"We want people to come and stay in Ballarat for a week, and have everything to entertain them," he said.

"Build it and they will come."

http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/large/628287.jpg
POTTER PALACE: Ballarat's 'medieval landmark,
Kryal Castle


Harry Potter proposal for Kryal Castle
BY NICK HIGGINS AND MARCUS POWER
23/10/2009 11:59:00 PM

KRYAL Castle is perfectly suited to being transformed
into a Harry Potter theme park,
according to Destination Ballarat's chairman Doug Sarah.

He said the bluestone castle,
which has been advertised for sale in recent years,
would make an ideal "school of wizardry",
based on the books by JK Rowling
which have been made into a series of successful films.

Mr Sarah said the 35-year-old attraction
was in a location easily accessed by visitors from Melbourne
and a wizard theme park would complement existing attractions
such as Sovereign Hill and the Ballarat Wildlife Park.

He said it was perfectly situated at the entrance to Ballarat.

Mr Sarah said the Ballarat Railway Station
could also be used to link in with the theme park.

In the Harry Potter stories the characters depart for
Hogwarts School of Wizardry from an historic railway station
with a secret platform "nine and three quarters".

Mr Sarah said the theme park would fit in
with the City of Ballarat's Come to Life theme
and the motto of "live, work, play, invest".

"I think this is an idea that could work," he said.

Mr Sarah said he first discussed the idea
with theme park operators about two years ago but,
while the response had been positive,
the global economic downturn had meant the idea had gone no further.

A Harry Potter theme park is due to open early next year
in Orlando, Florida.

The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, still under development,
is described online at www.universalorlandoresort.com/ha rrypotter
as a "completely immersive experience" that will
"transcend generations and bring the wonder and life of the amazingly detailed books and films of Harry Potter to life".

Castle co-owner Joyce Ryall said she was open to the idea.

"We'd need to have a look at the proposed concept."

"But it's not going to happen without an input of money (and) someone who's serious about doing it."

The opportunity for such a person might come soon.

The castle was put up for sale in 2007,
but had since been taken off the market.

Mrs Ryall said her family would make a decision about whether to put the attraction back up for sale in the next six months.

Again, this may be an idea that will keep the new arrivers having fun in their new home.It will have to be made and run properly to work.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 10:16 PM
National News

Passengers in water
as boat sinks
near Cocos Islands

AAP

November 02, 2009 06:40am


Cocos Islands
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7122816,00.jpg
The Cocos Islands are nearly 3000km
west-northwest of Broome, WA.

A BOAT with 40 people on board has sunk
near the Cocos Islands,
northwest of Australia.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) received
a distress signal overnight saying the boat was taking on water
about 700 nautical miles northwest of the Cocos Islands,
ABC Radio reported.

A merchant ship from the Bahamas went to help the boat, but when it arrived 12 hours later, it informed AMSA the boat had sunk and its passengers were in the water.

The merchant ship's crew were trying to rescue the passengers and an Australian Defence Force plane was headed for the area to join the search.

A spokesman for Home Affairs Minister Brendan O'Connor said the Government was "aware of the situation", but wasn't able to give any
details about it.

"I can confirm the Australian Rescue Co-ordinating Centre is helping," he said.

"We received a request for assistance inside the Australian search and rescue zone, so the Australian search and rescue people are assisting."

It is not yet known if the boat was carrying asylum seekers.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 10:45 PM
Migration: the true story

November 2, 2009

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/09/02/710042/paul-sheehan-127x127-90x90.jpg
Paul Sheehan

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/migration-the-true-story-20091101-hrjq.html

I begin this column as someone who has been accused of being a
''shameful'' person, ''a nasty piece of work'',
an ''ungrateful, unkind maggot'', because I recently wrote about
refugee policy in a column that was described as ''bollocks'', ''biased'',
''poorly researched'', ''sensationalist drivel'', ''crap'', ''rubbish'', '
'unworthy tabloid rubbish'' and ''playing the race card''.

These insults are useful.
They are irrational, immature, febrile.
They are also consistent with a slightly more subtle orthodoxy
that argues that anyone who supports
the detention of asylum seekers on Christmas Island
is not merely on the wrong side of a moral and legal argument,
but is of cruel and deficient character.

A predictable orgy of blame-throwing has accompanied
the latest influx of boat people, an influx that followed changes
in the policy and rhetoric of the Rudd Government,
which announced it would use mandatory detention as a last resort.

The term xenophobia has immediately been thrown about
by the usual suspects, the refugee lobby, the human rights lobby,
the utopian left and a predictable section of the media.
The policy of detention has been portrayed as self-evidently cruel
and discriminatory, and the bipartisan political support for a regime
that acts as a deterrent to unauthorised arrivals has been presented
as proof of this country's latent xenophobia.

Australia is not a xenophobic nation.
The argument is nonsense.
Let me count the ways:

1. The number of refugees or humanitarian cases admitted by the Howard government was the highest of any government in Australian history, other than a brief spike after World War II. This legal intake did not generate significant public opposition or partisan division in Canberra. The number of humanitarian arrivals admitted during the Howard years was more than 128,000, says the field's leading expert, Dr Katherine Betts.

2. The number of Muslims admitted to permanent residence was far higher during the Howard years than during any other government. The Muslim population rose from 200,000, in 1996, to 340,000 in 2006, a 65 per cent surge in 10 years. (Figures again supplied by Betts.) This surge took place during a time of rising violence by militant Islamists, and the murder of scores of Australians by Islamic fundamentalists. Yet the historic increase in Muslim numbers via legal channels generated no meaningful political opposition.

3. Australia has the highest number of foreign-born residents of any large, advanced Western democracy. The proportion is almost one in four. For years Australia has maintained one of the world's largest per capita immigrants intakes, and the majority of arrivals have been non-European. Debate over immigration has flared only when the immigration stream has been abused by widespread fraud. The most sustained opposition has come from environmentalists concerned with sustainable growth.

4. People who arrive by boat present a more confronting challenge to legal, security and health screening than those who arrive by air and overstay their visas. Arrivals by air must present valid documentation before travelling. It is common practice for those who arrive by boat to destroy their travel documents, and engage people smugglers, measures designed to create a fait accompli, and make it more difficult to send them back to their nations of origin. This makes a far more difficult and expensive process of checking arrivals' legal, security and health status.

5. The rigorous deterrence and screening of unauthorised arrivals is integral to national security. Some of those who have settled in Australia and later engaged in criminal behaviour or welfare fraud have arrived via the refugee or humanitarian programs. The screening process for such programs is more problematic. So, too, is the absorption process. A recent spate of convictions for terrorist activity within Australia has largely involved people who came as immigrants.

6. The Tamil Tigers, whose campaign for independence from the central government in Sri Lanka led to a long and bloody civil war, have received considerable support from within the Tamil community in Australia. In April more than 1000 ethnic Tamils blockaded the gates of Kirribilli House, the Prime Minister's Sydney residence, calling for a ceasefire in the Sri Lankan Government's military offensive against the Tigers. The Sri Lankan high commissioner to Australia, Senaka Walgampaya, said the Tamil Tigers had received significant support from Australia, a view shared by Australian intelligence.

7. The number of refugees
or displaced persons in the world,
more than 20 million,
is roughly the same as
the population of Australia,
22 million.
Advanced economies could only accept all these people by
incurring domestic social and economic costs,
which they are not prepared to make.
Immigration policies have ripple-on effects,
hence the need for quotas.

8. The Rudd Government deploys a zero-sum refugee policy. Although it increased immigration and temporary-working visa intakes, it maintained the annual intake of refugee/humanitarian at 13,500. Government policy thus dictates that those who arrive by boat and are given asylum status have displaced people who have registered with the United Nations or the government. The 13,500 annual refugee quota is a real waiting line of people with real needs. It is a queue that cannot simply be rendered invisible or irrelevant.

9. UN laws and conventions pertaining to the treatment of asylum seekers have no override authority over Australian law. The concept of ''the international community'' is no more than a rhetorical device. In reality the phrase refers to other like-minded human-rights activists overseas. Most democracies punish governments that fail the test of border security.

10. The 78 ethnic Tamils who have illegally occupied the Australian customs vessel Oceanic Viking are demanding rights that do not exist under international law. Most have been in Indonesia for some time. They want to settle in Australia, or another wealthy country, but that decision is not theirs to make.

The Oceanic Viking needs to be reclaimed,
secured, prepared for sea,
then sail for Sri Lanka
with the 78 recalcitrants on board.
They have rejected Indonesia.
Anything less is a capitulation to moral blackmail,
where children have been used as props and pawns.
The impasse is not a test of rights but a test of wills.
The prolonging of the Oceanic Viking saga has shown Rudd to be a man who seeks to be all things to all people.

vera susa
01-11-2009, 11:27 PM
So if we're always making new discoveries about our
long lost and forgotten, until re-discovered, ancestors,
why are we NOT ALLOWED to apply what we're learning
of ALL these peoples of ALL the World, to reading God's
Living Word AS IT'S WRITTEN, TO and ABOUT ALL Peoples
of ALL The World...

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Science News

'Dutch' Batavians
More Roman Than Thought

ScienceDaily (Oct. 22, 2009) —
The Batavians, who lived in the Netherlands
at the start of the Christian era
were far more Roman than was previously thought.

After just a few decades of Roman occupation,
the Batavians had become so integrated that they cooked,
built and bathed in a Roman manner.
Dutch researcher Stijn Heeren discovered this
during archaeological research.

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* Ancient Civilizations
* Archaeology
* Anthropology
* Fossils
* Lost Treasures

Reference

* Iron Age
* Catapult
* Archaeological field survey
* Excavation
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091026105742.htm

Heeren studied excavated artefacts and traces of settlements
and burial fields in the neighbourhood of Tiel.
In Dutch history, the Batavians are often presented as
a brave people who resisted a cruel oppressor.
But Stijn Heeren has now demonstrated that these
'simple people' also adopted a lot of Roman customs.
According to him the small farming communities
changed into villages where Roman practices
made their entrance.

Roman food and bathing

By studying the chronology of the excavation site and by analysing
several specific categories of finds, Heeren could show how and when
the locals started to participate in the economic, military and cultural
structures of the Roman Empire. The archaeologist discovered that
within a few decades of Roman occupation, the Batavians used
Roman ingredients in their cooking, that the farmers used makeup and
oil in the same way as the Romans in their baths and that they built
their farms according to the Roman style.

Money and war

Heeren believes that two important facts fuelled the Batavian integration. The Roman army camps were an important source of income for
the Batavians. The Batavian farmers produced food for the Roman
soldiers and in so doing could acquire Roman utensils as well.
The Batavian economy therefore became dependent on that of the Romans.
Yet the role played by the Batavians in the Roman army was possibly
even more important for their integration. Many young men did 25 years
of service in the Roman army and brought Roman objects and customs
with them after completing their service. Although Heeren's study is limited to the rural community of Tiel-Passewaaij, these communities could serve
as a model for rural communities elsewhere in the Batavian world.

Heeren's research is part of
the research programme
'Rural communities in the civitas Batavorum and
their integration into the Roman Empire',
led by Prof. Nico Roymans.
This research programme is part of
'The Harvest of Malta',
a series of research programmes
funded by NWO.
______________________________

Adapted from materials provided by NWO
(Netherlands Organization for Scientific Research),
via AlphaGalileo.
______________________________

vera susa
01-11-2009, 11:54 PM
I dunno, it just seems silly to me, to keep ignoring, what is, in the world,
when there's so much of it, and that's not counting the new stuff we're
always finding ... and even sillier to say, "Nah God, you stay back in that
idiot age, sounding like an idiot. No 'moving with the times' for You!" ... call
me weird, but I recon I just lost my "CAYS"....


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Biogenic Origin For Earth's Oldest Putative Microfossils

ScienceDaily (July 2, 2009) — Microbes and bacteria were the first living organisms on Earth, and they can be preserved in Archean silica-rich rocks. One such outcrop from western Australia, dated to 3.5 billion years ago, may hold the oldest "microfossils."
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However, their authenticity has been called into question, and it is possible the microbe-like features may have been formed by non-biological processes inside an ancient hydrothermal vent.

In a new study published in Geology, De Gregorio et al. have compared carbonaceous matter in this rock with that from the 1.9-billion-year-old Gunflint Formation, which contains textbook examples of microfossil features. They found striking similarities between the carbon bonding and nitrogen, sulfur, and phosphorus composition of both ancient carbonaceous materials.

This similarity suggests that biological processes may be responsible for the formation of the 3.5-billion-year-old carbonaceous matter, and that ....

.... and I've lost use of just about everything else, mouse, etc. , can't correct or edit stuff ... so as my words are so often twisted as it is, best I retire, 'til,
well ... there's no allowance for a new p.c. in my, pay every other thieving
dog's debts, budget...

vera susa
02-11-2009, 02:00 AM
WIKIPEDIA
On this day...

November 2:
All Souls' Day in Western Christianity;
Day of the Dead in Mexico

The Spruce Goose wooden flying boat
was bigger than a Boeing 747.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/H-4_Hercules.jpg
User: Comment:
2 November 2008
David Levy (lossless crop)
Duk
(H-4 Hercules,
''The Spruce Goose'')

* 1889 – The Dakota Territory,
an organized incorporated territory
of the United States,
was split and admitted to the Union as the states
of North and South Dakota.

* 1909 – Lambda Chi Alpha,
today one of the largest men's general fraternities
in North America,
having initiated more than 270,000 members,
was founded at Boston University.

* 1917 –
British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour
issued the Balfour Declaration,
proclaiming British support for
the establishment of a Jewish homeland
in Palestine.

* 1947 –
American industrialist and aviator Howard Hughes
flew Spruce Goose (pictured),
the largest flying boat ever built,
on its maiden flight
from the coast of Long Beach, California, USA.


Did you know...

From Wikipedia's newest articles:

... that in 1901,
the head of the
Russian secret police Sergei Zubatov
helped found the
Independent Jewish Workers Party
in a bid to counter the influence of the
General Jewish Labour Bund?

Independent Jewish Workers Party
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Independent Jewish Workers Party
(Russian: Еврейская независимая рабочая партия)
was a Jewish political party in Russia.
The party was founded in 1901
on the initiative of Sergei Zubatov,
the head of the Czarist secret police (the Okhrana).[1][2][3]
Zubatov had been impressed by the growth of the
General Jewish Labour Bund, a clandestine Jewish socialist party.
The Independent Jewish Workers Party
was intended to counter the influence of the Bund,
mobilizing Czarist loyalty among Jewish workers.[2]
The party argued that Jewish workers would benefit economically
from Czarist rule, as long as they stayed aloof of political protests.
Its followers were nicknamed Zubatovchikes.[2]

The party had its headquarters in Minsk,
and local branches in Vilno, Kraslava, Bobruisk and Odessa.
The party was led by disgruntled former Bundists such
Manya Wilbushewitz (later Shochat), A. Tschermerisky,
G. Shakhnovich and Y. Volin.
The party was also joined by figures from the Minsk faction of
Poale Zion, such as Joseph Goldberg and Hayyah Kagan.
In 1902, the party was joined by Heinrich Shayevich (a General Zionist).[1]
The total membership of the party probably never went beyond 4,000.[4]

The Bund fiercely opposed the launching of the
Independent Jewish Workers Party.
When the party held demonstrations,
the Bund organized militant counter-manifestations.
The party often had to cancel meetings due to Bundist protests.[2]
Due to anti-Jewish policies of the Czarist government,
manifested through pogroms, the party failed to take root.
In 1903 the Minister of Interior, Vyacheslav von Plehve,
ordered that the party disband itself.[1][3]
On February 5, 1903 the party informed its members in Vilno
that party activities would temporarily cease.
In June, a party conference decided to liquidate the party.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Jewish_Workers_Party

On 1 January 1901
the Proclamation of the
Commonwealth of Australia
was held in
Centennial Park, Sydney.
Sir Edmund Barton
was sworn in as the interim
Prime Minister,
leading an interim
Federal ministry of nine members.
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Federation of Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes Wiki CHOSE to feature
A Victory Arch FOR CORNWELL
as the Lead Image for OUR FEDERATION...:rolleyes:


Events of 1903
January–February

Jan. 1: Emperor of India.
February 15: first teddy bear.

* January 1 –
Edward VII of the United Kingdom
is proclaimed Emperor of India.

* January 19 –
The first west-east transatlantic radio broadcast
is made from the United States to England
(the first east-west broadcast having been made in 1901).

* February 11 –
The Oxnard Strike of 1903 becomes
the first time in U.S. history
that a labor union is formed
from members of different races.

* February 15 –
Morris and Rose Mitchom introduce
the first teddy bear in America.

* February 23 –
Cuba leases Guantanamo Bay
to the United States "in perpetuity".

March-April

* March 2 –
In New York City, the Martha Washington Hotel,
the first hotel
exclusively for women, opens.

* March 3 –
The British admiralty announces plans
to build a naval base at Rosyth.

* March 5 –
Turkey and Germany
sign an agreement to build the
Constantinople-Baghdad Railway.

* March 14 –
The Hay-Herran Treaty,
granting the United States
the right to build the Panama Canal,
is ratified by the United States Senate.
The Colombian Senate later rejects the treaty.

* March 19 –
The oldest Turkish football club,
Besiktas JK,
is founded in Istanbul.

* April 29 – A 30-million-m3 landslide
kills 70 in Frank, Alberta.

May–June

* May 18 –
The port of Burgas, Bulgaria opens.

* May 22 –
The White Star Liner, SS Ionic,
is launched.


* June 11 –
Serbian King Alexander Obrenović
and
Queen Draga
are assassinated.

* June 12 –
The Sigma Alpha Iota International Music Fraternity
is founded at the
University of Michigan School of Music.

* June 14 –
The town of Heppner, Oregon,
was nearly destoyed
by a cloud burst that
resulted in a flash flood.



Today's featured picture
Gran calavera eléctrica
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Gran calavera eléctrica ("Grand electric skull", 1900–13)
by José Guadalupe Posada,
which depicts a large skeleton hypnotizing a group of calaveras,
with an electric street car,
with skeletons as passengers, in the background.

Skulls are a common symbol of
the Day of the Dead, a Mexican holiday
where people remember friends and family members
who have died.
Restoration: Lise Broer

Recently featured:
Cripps Pink apples –
Salem witch trials –
Jamison Valley, New South Wales

The Jenolan Caves
are an example of remarkable caverns in the
Blue Mountains, New South Wales, Australia;
175 kilometres west of Sydney.

They are the most celebrated
of several similar groups in the limestone of the country
being the oldest discovered open caves in the world

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The Grand Column
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The Minaret
Jenolan Caves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

vera susa
02-11-2009, 02:58 AM
Ku-Ring-Gai Chase National Park
was added to the
Australian National Heritage List
in December 2006...
...located largely within the Ku-ring-gai, Hornsby,
Warringah and Pittwater municipal areas.

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Aerial view of a part of Sydney's Northern Beaches,
with Pittwater and Scotland Island on the left
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Ku-ring-gai Council
New South Wales

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Cowan Creek,
Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park

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View of the marina at
Bobbin Head

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Ku-Ring-Gai_Chase_National_Park_20_metre_long_petroglyph.J PG
part of a 20 metre long petroglyph on
Hawkesbury Sandstone, at
Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park, Australia

vera susa
02-11-2009, 04:33 AM
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Yacht Chartering in
Broken Bay, Pittwater and Cowan Creek.
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Source:
LAND AND PROPERTY INFORMATION
PANORAMA AVENUE BATHURST 2795
www.lpi.nsw.gov.au
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Click on a name on the map to discover more about each location
but first, here are 10 Reasons why the Broken Bay, Pittwater,
and Cowan Creek waterways offer the best yacht charters
and sailing schools opportunities in Australia,
and perhaps the entire world.
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http://www.cruising-broken-bay.com/yacht_charter_broken_bay_pittwater.html


And then there's ...

November 7, 2007
No more gas-fired power plants!

Production and use of natural gas
threatens Black and Brown communities
worldwide

An open letter to
San Francisco Supervisor
Chris Daly
by Ann Garrison
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Thousands of magnificent works of rock art
like this created as many as 30,000 years old –
Aboriginal sacred sites in Australia’s Burrup Peninsula –
could be destroyed if Woodside Petroleum
and the government are allowed to build
a natural gas production facility there.
The Burrup are fighting back.
http://www.eniar.org/img/burrup.gif
http://perth.indymedia.org/storyuploads/34641/burrup.jpg
See www.standupfortheburrup.com.

http://www.sfbayview.com/2007/no-more-gas-fired-power-plants/

And SEE why I get miffed with
the perpetual parade of MODERN
Catholic Commissioned 'Arts',
as if an argument against God's
FROM THE BEGINNING story of
ALL Peoples of ALL the Earth...


http://rses.anu.edu.au/research/images/rockart.png
http://www.chemistry.co.nz/_framed/kiwi4.jpg

...how more plainly can you record,
"some Kiwi's moved in and started a family...,"
... seeing as the "BIRDS" DON'T keep a
Nuclear Family Structure,
but like Our Emus,
the male gets dumped with the kids...

http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/kiwi-bird.jpg
Kiwi!
Kiwi! - YouTube

vera susa
02-11-2009, 06:07 AM
Hidden wonders down under:
Arnhem Land
Thursday, August 7, 2008
Video:
http://getaway.ninemsn.com.au/fsaustraliant/610394/hidden-wonders-down-under-arnhem-land

Arnhem Land covers 97,000 square kilometres of
the Northern Territory's far eastern corner
and is one of Australia's most haunting environments.

It is the country's largest Aboriginal reserve, so you need a permit to get in. Visitors are able to do 4WD tours during the dry season — at other times the only way in is by aircraft.

It takes a lot of hassle out of your trip if you go with a tour operator. For 21 years, Max Davidson has run safaris into Arnhem Land's lush Mount Borradaile region. Davidson's Arnhemland Safaris are fully guided at all times but there is no set itinerary. You decide your own activities and the guides accommodate your choices.

Over 200 species of birds live here — including the colourful Jesus-bird walking on lily pads and brolgas performing their mating dance. It's a good idea to take a pair of binoculars.

Mount Borradaile hosts a large wild boar population and you'll see six metre saltwater crocodiles. There are also smaller and less danger freshwater crocs. Swimming in billabongs is strictly prohibited, but there are totally safe alternatives for a dip in high rocky outcrops.

An amazing profusion of insects, butterflies and moths inhabit the rainforests and paperbark swamps, providing food for frogs, pythons and birds.

A visit of at least three days is recommended but there are other options. Accommodation is in twin-share tents with 240-volt power and external lighting around the main complex, which has a kitchen, dining area, library and briefing room. Permanent toilet and shower blocks with hot and cold water and laundry are on the other fringe of the camp. Home-style meals are served and nourishing picnic lunches and refreshments provided on all-day excursions.

Peppers Seven Spirit Bay is in Garig Gunak Barlu National Park on the Cobourg Peninsula, a 45-minute flight from Darwin. It is remote, secluded and luxurious, set in a tropical forest just metres from the sea.

Tropical habitats have five sides of floor-to-ceiling louvred shades and screens — perfect for making the most of the scenery and letting in cooling breezes.

Premium bay-view habitats have stunning views over Coral Bay. They have a balcony perfect for enjoying the famous Top End sunrises and sunsets.

Both styles of accommodation have two queen beds, roomy sitting area and private, semi-open bathroom in the garden.
Location
The north-east of the Northern Territory.

Hidden wonders down under:
Mungo National Park
Thursday, August 7, 2008
Video:
http://getaway.ninemsn.com.au/fsaustraliansw/country/610420/hidden-wonders-down-under-mungo-national-park

Few have heard of Mungo National Park, yet it's a site of
global significance for its archaeological findings
and geological formations.
It is the site of Australia's oldest modern human remains —
around 40,000 years — and one of the world's oldest sites
of continuous human habitation.

Lake Mungo, a dry lake, is the central feature of Mungo National Park and the second largest of the 17 lakes in the World Heritage listed Willandra Lakes Region. In 1981 it was named, with Kakadu and the Great Barrier Reef, as one of Australia's first World Heritage sites.

Mungo National Park was formerly Gol Gol Station and the original woolshed is still here and open to visitors. In the 1920s the land was broken into smaller holdings and given to soldiers returning from WWI. It was later acquired by Parks and Wildlife.

The spectacular lunar landscape is characterised by the dramatic Great Walls of China running along what was the eastern shoreline of the lake. It is almost 35 kilometres long and reaches 30 metres high in parts. The "walls" were formed over thousands of years by sediments deposited by winds as the lake dried.

The crescent-shaped lunette has three distinct layers of sands and soil. The reddish Gol Gol layer was formed between 100,000 and 120,000 years ago. The greyish middle layer, Mungo, arrived between 50,000 and 25,000 years ago. The pale brown Zanci layer was laid down between 15,000 and25,000 years ago.

The Mungo layer, which was deposited before the last ice age, is the most archaeologically rich. During the ice age, the lake's water level dropped and it became a salt lake. This turned the soil alkaline, which has helped preserve the remains left buried in the Walls of China.

In 1968, Dr Jim Bowler uncovered the remains of Mungo Man, the oldest anatomically-modern human found in Australia. Believed to have lived around 40,000 years ago during the Ice Age, the remains were covered with red ochre and he'd been buried with ceremony, lying on his side and hands interlocked over his groin. It is the earliest known evidence of such a sophisticated burial practice, particularly as ochre is not native to the region and indicates that a sophisticated trading system could have been in place.

Mungo Woman was discovered just 100 metres away in 1969. Also estimated to be 40,000 years old, she is evidence of the world's oldest cremation.

There is evidence that Lake Mungo was an abundant source of fresh water and food and there is great archaeological evidence from people littering the shore of the lake. Stone tools, grinders for making flour, a stone axe head, middens with shells and bones, fish bones and fish ear bones, a two pronged tool and evidence of hearths have been exciting discoveries, some going back 50,000 years.

Footprints declaring the world's largest human trackway were announced in 2003. Since then over 450 prints of adults and children in at least 23 tracks have been uncovered. They vary from 15 to 30 centimetres.

The first colonists in the region were European farmers, who arrived in the 1860s. Chinese miners worked the area in the 1870s and named the Walls of China.

The site is significant to the Aboriginal people of the area. The Willandra region is managed by the Barkindji, Myiampaa and Mutthi Mutthi people and in 2001 the three tribal groups joined a Joint Management Agreement for Mungo National Park. They have developed a training program where people can learn about archaeological sites, bush tucker and traditional languages.

Harry Nanya Tours is owned and operated by Graham Clarke, a Barkindji Aborigine. He has been doing tours for 15 years and recently bought the business.

Tours of the Great Walls of China include a two-kilometre walk and an explanation of archaeological findings as well as the evolution of the lake and people who have lived here. Graham plays the didgeridoo, tells stories and shows how tools were made.

Mungo Lodge is set in mallee woodlands just four kilometres from Mungo National Park. It has a good range of accommodation: ensuite cabins, self-contained cottages and a camping ground. It has a licensed restaurant, barbecue area, all-weather airstrip and necessary amenities.
Location
740km west of Sydney.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2009
title:

SHORTAGE OF ARCHAEOLOGISTS
FOR AUSTRALIAN JOB MARKET
date: 06/07/2009

contact name:

1) Professor Tim Murray and 2) Professor Peter Veth

contact position:
1) Dean of Humanities and Social Sciences La Trobe and
2) AAA Media Liaison Officer, ANU National Centre for Indigenous Studies

organisation:
La Trobe University
phone: 02 6125 9321
email:
[email protected]; [email protected]

text:

Professor Tim Murray, a leading Australian Archaeologist,
has argued in the Weekend Australian of July 4-5,
that there is a global shortage of archaeologists.

Specifically, he notes that a rebound in the resources sector
will create additional demand for appropriately qualified and
experienced heritage consultants.

The Australian National Committee for Archaeology Teaching and Learning
has established a Register of consultants willing to give undergraduates
work experience (see this AAA home website).

The Rudd Government's infrastructure initiatives raise the spectre of
rapidly increasing volumes of land use and permit applications -
of which archaeological/heritage compliances
are an integral component.

vera susa
02-11-2009, 06:20 AM
Prince coming
'to get know Aussies'
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Prince coming
'to get know Aussies'

HE hasn't been out since he was one
but our likely future monarch
is heading Down Under.



National News

Prince William
coming to Australia
for Royal Tour

Herald Sun

November 02, 2009 02:03pm

William
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Prince William will visit Australia
as part of a three-day royal tour.
Picture: Phil Noble / Reuters

* William to tour Melbourne and Sydney
* Prince requested opportunity to visit
* Was only aged one on last trip Down Under

PRINCE William will tour
bushfire-ravaged parts of Victoria
as part of a three-day royal tour
to Melbourne and Sydney this summer.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the Prince would be in Australia
from January 19-21, when he hopes to get to know his future
subjects better, learn about indigenous issues and
tour bushfire-affected parts of Victoria, the Herald Sun reports.

“The visit originated from a request to
the Government of Australia by Prince William
to visit the country so as to begin to
get to know Australia and its people,” Mr Rudd said.

“During his visit, Prince William will focus on his core interests
of supporting servicemen and women, helping young people fulfil their
potential, and sustainable development in the light of climate change.

Related Coverage

* Prince William to visit Australia
The Australian, 2 Nov 2009
* Reader's Comments: Prince coming 'to get know Aussies'
NEWS.com.au,
* Prince William could visit Oz
Herald Sun, 12 Oct 2009
* Happy birthday Prince Harry
Courier Mail,
* Prince Harry turns 25
NEWS.com.au,

Your Say

The Prince and the monarchy will be irrelevant
when we become a Republic.
Goodbye to the useless monarchy!

(Read More)
Jason of Sydney

“The Prince will also use the visit to learn more about
local Indigenous issues
and visit the bushfire-ravaged countryside in Victoria.”

It will be the Prince’s second visit to our shores -
he came here as a one-year-old in 1983 with his parents,
Prince Charles and Princess Diana.

Prince William will travel to Australia from New Zealand,
where he is due to officially open the new Supreme Court in New Zealand.

“Prince William will have the opportunity
to meet a cross-section of Australians
involved in a variety of projects
of interest in both Sydney and Melbourne,”
Mr Rudd said.

“His Royal Highness will travel to Australia from New Zealand
and then return to the United Kingdom.

“Further details of the visit will be released closer to the time.”

vera susa
02-11-2009, 06:50 AM
Hee he ... 'democracy' ... hee he ...

Costello appointed to Future Fund
on ability, Wayne Swan says

AAP

November 02, 2009 03:00pm

THEY may never agree on
some fundamental aspects of economic policy,
but that doesn't stop Peter Costello
being the right choice for a Government position,
Treasurer Wayne Swan says.

Former Liberal treasurer Mr Costello,
who retired from politics last month,
has been appointed to the board of governors of
the Future Fund.

Mr Swan said it has always been his view that
if someone had the ability, it shouldn't matter
what their "political badge",
and shouldn't preclude them from
a government position.

"It was an unfortunate case that for 12 long years
that noone with our badge was appointed to anything.
I think it is about time that
we put that sort of mentality to bed,"
Mr Swan said.

He said that he and Mr Costello had had some
pretty significant differences over the years.

"It also the case, it will remain the case,
that we will probably never agree
about some fundamental aspects of economic policy," he said.

"But none of those things
necessarily preclude the appointment
to the Future Fund."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


money, refugees, dusenmatta...always the same mob,
runnin' the same show ... HIDING The TRUTH of The
Glorious Promised Land ... :) ;)

vera susa
02-11-2009, 07:02 AM
Costello a 'policy bum': Keating
November 1, 2009


Peter Costello ... calling it a day.
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Peter Costello ... calling it a day.

Former Labor prime minister Paul Keating
has slammed ‘‘policy bum’’ Peter Costello’s
appointment to the Future Fund board.

The federal government announced on Sunday
the former treasurer and Liberal stalwart
would be appointed to the fund’s board of guardians
on December 18.

The decision follows
former opposition leader Brendan Nelson’s
appointment as Australian ambassador to
the European Union in September.

Mr Keating said
the selection of Mr Costello
showed
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
had no respect for his colleagues,
or the Future Fund.

‘‘It is also disloyal to all those members of the Labor caucus
in the Keating government and those Labor members of
the Beazley, Crean and Latham oppositions
who stood and fought Costello,’’ he said.

‘‘The prime minister’s goodie two-shoes approach of appointing
former opponents of the Labor Party to important public jobs
is no substitute for thoughtful and mature reflection as to
the public requirement of those positions.’’

Mr Keating accused Mr Costello of presiding over
the growth of Australian debt abroad from $129 billion in 1996,
to $705 billion in 2007.

‘‘The Future Fund is all about national savings,
yet during Costello’s period as treasurer,
national savings were so depleted,’’ he said.

‘‘Costello was a policy bum of the first order
who squandered 11 years of economic opportunity.’’

And while Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull said Mr Costello was
a ‘‘very appropriate guardian’’ for the Future Fund,
he criticised Mr Rudd as hypocritical for his decision to appoint him.

‘‘It’s certainly a very good appointment, Peter set up the Future Fund
so he’s a very appropriate guardian for it,’’ Mr Turnbull told Network Ten.

‘‘But it does show, I must say, the complete hypocrisy of Kevin Rudd on economic matters.’’

It wasn’t that long ago that Mr Rudd was saying
the Liberal Party’s economic policies had brought the world
to the ‘‘edge of an abyss’’ and neo-Liberal free market extremism
had done enormous economic harm, Mr Turnbull said.

‘‘And so here he is appointing
the number one neo-Liberal free market extremist
to the board of the Future Fund.’’

The prime minister has previously said the government’s appointment
of former coalition ministers into senior positions shows
Labor’s commitment to bipartisanship.

But Mr Rudd’s bipartisanship
‘‘is a very thin veneer’’,
especially when it comes to debates on
issues like border protection,
Mr Turnbull said.

AAP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Gee, now how'd that LAST LINE just slip in there...
from money, funds, economy to OOPS...
BORDER PROTECTION!

vera susa
02-11-2009, 07:49 AM
CSIRO denies censoring climate paper

By Shane McLeod for The World Today

The World Today | abc.net.au/worldtoday

Posted 53 minutes ago


Smoke billowing from smoke stacks
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Science or policy?
Dr Spash's paper argues that carbon trading
is an ineffective way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
(Library of Congress)

An environmental economist at the CSIRO says he is being told not to publish a paper on climate change because it challenges Government policy.

But the CSIRO says it is not trying to censor the scientist and is still reviewing the case.

Fears are being expressed both inside and outside the agency that it is self-censoring to avoid controversy and to safeguard its funding.

Dr Clive Spash is an ecological economist who has worked for the CSIRO since 2006, specialising in the interactions between the environment and the economy.

In Dr Spash's paper, which he has not been allowed to publish,
he argues that carbon trading - like the emissions trading scheme
being promoted by the Federal Government - appears to be ineffective
in reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

He says more direct measures such as a carbon tax or new infrastructure would be simpler and more effective.

His paper was submitted for publication in the UK journal New Political Economy earlier this year.

But in July the CSIRO wrote to the editors, telling them the paper was being withdrawn because it had not been approved through internal CSIRO processes.

Dr Spash told the Australia New Zealand Society for Ecological Economics conference in Darwin last week that CSIRO managers "maintained they had the right to ban" the paper.

No comments on policy

The World Today understands Dr Spash has been told not to publish the paper because of political sensitivities.

But the CSIRO denies it is trying to censor Dr Spash.

A spokesman says there is a long-standing policy of not publishing papers and reports that comment on policy, be it Government or Opposition, or even that of a local council.

He says Dr Spash's paper is now being reviewed by the organisation's chief executive, Dr Megan Clark.

And she has put her views about public comments by scientists on the record as recently as last month in an interview on the ABC's Sunday Profile.

"I'm encouraging our scientists to speak to the public. We're training our scientists to do that and they have my personal backing," she said.

"With it comes responsibility to make sure that we adhere to one of the most fundamental values of the organisation, which is the integrity of our excellent science.

"That's what the Australian people trust us for and we absolutely must always respect that value and never cross the line into commenting on policies.

"Lots of people out there are prepared to do that. The Australian people trust us to talk about our science."

She says if the CSIRO suddenly became aware that an emissions trading scheme was not the right way to go, it would have no problems putting it in the public domain.

"Our modelling will be out in the public domain. Our science will be out in the public domain and we should have it out there," she said.

Blurred lines

It is that distinction - between science and policy - that is at the centre of the dispute over Dr Spash's paper.

The president of the CSIRO staff association, Dr Michael Borgas, says scientists understand not to comment on policy, but he says the line is becoming blurred.

"They are certainly very aware of the opinions they give from the organisation as a CSIRO, as part of an arm of Government if you like, meant not to comment on policy decisions of either the Government or the Opposition," he said.

"The overlap between policy and science is getting extremely close in these issues, which come to an interesting point in history where much of the science is telling us that we do have to worry about the finiteness of things and that includes climate change.

"And that means working out how to manage things and deal with policies for a sustainable future."

He says some scientists worry that self-censorship is at play, where supervisors and managers want to avoid controversy at all costs.

Dr Spash is now waiting for a decision from the chief executive on whether he can publish the paper in his CSIRO role, or even in a private capacity.

In her interview last month, Dr Megan Clark suggested the public and private roles of scientists were inseparable.

The World Today's attempts this morning to contact Dr Spash have been unsuccessful.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

So how hard do you reckon it is to get a paper published
that Exposes The Conspiracy Behind All Conspiracy's ;),
even before our, "Ministry of Science" NEEDS TO APPROVE
ALL SCIENTIFIC PAPERS BEFORE THEY'RE PUBLISHED, days.

vera susa
02-11-2009, 08:11 AM
Outback dunny
number one at arts award

Posted Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:46am AEDT

* Map: Ivanhoe 2878

An outback dunny that has been transformed into a video confessional booth in western New South Wales has won first place at a multimedia arts award in Portugal.

The Outback Story Booth was created by Melbourne-based arts company TRAX and allows residents to record and tell their own short stories and recollections about the town of Ivanhoe.

It was recognised at the Future Places Festival and the chairman of West Darling Arts, Kym Fuller, says the testimonies will become part of Ivanhoe's cultural heritage.

Mr Fuller says people in Ivanhoe have embraced the project, although they were sceptical at first.

vera susa
02-11-2009, 09:30 AM
Ah yes, The Sport of KINGS and DICTATORS ...

Chechen dictator could use
Melbourne Cup for
money laundering: expert


Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov.
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Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov.

November 2, 2009 - 4:36PM

The Melbourne Cup could become part of an international money laundering scheme if Chechen dictator Ramzan Kadyrov's horse Mourilyan wins the race, an expert in Russian politics says.

Kadyrov has been described as the new Stalin and compared to Saddam Hussein and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il because of the human rights abuses and murders he has allegedly perpetrated in Chechnya.

As the richest man in the former Soviet state, he has 99.9 per cent of the vote, a $1 million watch, a gold-plated gun and a stable of horses based in Dubai.

South African trainer Herman Brown has brought Mourilyan out for Tuesday's Cup and if the highly fancied stayer gets up, the $3.3 million prize money and the gold cup will be headed for Grozny, Chechnya's capital.

"It's a moral dilemma. If Kim Jong-il applies to have a horse run next time, what should we do?" said Australian National University academic Leonid Petrov.

"Perhaps there should be stricter criteria put forward for applicants.

"Kadyrov is implicated in many nasty things in Chechnya, in Russia and outside the borders of Russia. Personal enemies of Kadyrov die like flies in Russia and also in Dubai."

Russian security forces last week foiled an assassination attempt on Kadyrov, who thrives on the financial and political backing of the Kremlin.

"Lots of money has been pumped into Chechnya to prop up the regime of Kadyrov," Dr Petrov said.

"How much of this money has been used on his horses, we don't know but if the horse wins, the money will be the personal property of Ramzan Kadyrov.

"In that case it will become quite questionable whether the Melbourne Cup is participating in an international money laundering scheme."

Brown said he is aware of the controversy surrounding Kadyrov, whom he has only met once and communicates with through a government interpreter.

"I'm obviously aware of what people talk about," he said.

"I'm not really sure I'm the man to really talk about it. I'm just concentrating on the race.

"I don't know this (allegations against Kadyrov) for a fact. Maybe after the Cup, I'll investigate it."

British racing authorities are investigating Kadyrov and will rule in February whether to ban his horses from competing in the country.

If a British ban is enforced, he is likely to be shunned globally.

"Clearly we have to abide by the laws of whatever country we race in," Brown said.

Brown said it was his idea to bring Mourilyan - which races in the red, white and green colours of the Chechen flag - to the Melbourne Cup and he has very little direct contact with Kadyrov who will watch the race in Grozny.

"He's easy to deal with," Brown said.

"I've met him once in Dubai last December and he was very pleasant to me.

"As an owner and a business relationship, the guy's great. He buys expensive horses, he pays the bills really well and he doesn't interfere with the training. Ask any trainer and they're the criteria you want from an owner."

tintin
02-11-2009, 10:11 AM
Hi Vera, I just send you a P.M.
But since you don't care about
the P part of it I will
tell the whole world here what this
P.M. was all about. I said HI.
Yes folks, that was all what's in the P.M.
Oh and BTW Vera, here is another tip.
When you talk to folks keep offering
them beer. At some point they will tell
things and then you can use that behind
their back. Regardless if its true or not.
The end always justifies the means.
And atfter all, God is a LOVING GOD!
You know that don't you. Just in case

faraday
02-11-2009, 01:09 PM
Who's On First? - YouTube

faraday
02-11-2009, 05:21 PM
El Salvador better to visit than Australia - Lonely Planet

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7125513,00.jpg

El Salvador better to visit than Australia - Lonely Planet

The Courier-Mail
November 02, 2009 03:20pm

AUSTRALIA has failed to make a Lonely Planet list of the best countries in the world to visit - beaten out by New Zealand, Malaysia... and El Salvador.

The travel bible's popular Best in Travel guide rates the top 10 countries to visit next year.
Feedback YOUR SAY: El Salvador, New Zealand better countries than Australia?

Our cousins across the Tasman top the list, with authors saying: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

All the millions spent on marketing Australia to the world didn't count for much, with the third world charms of El Salvador, the central American nation beset by civil war for almost 20 years until 1992, seen as more attractive.

Although, on Lonely Planet's website, among colourful photographs of surf and markets, is a warning: "Travel Alert: Criminal activity is a problem in El Salvador".

But there was one saving grace for Australia with the south-west of Western Australia winning a spot in the top 10 regions worldwide.
Related Coverage

* Lonely Planet lists top 10 countriesNEWS.com.au, 2 Nov 2009
* More Aussies holidaying overseas than hereNEWS.com.au, 6 Oct 2009
* Night and day, Dali draws a crowdThe Australian, 5 Oct 2009
* Couple's holiday survival guideNEWS.com.au, 1 Oct 2009
* Travellers shun Queensland for VictoriaNEWS.com.au, 25 Sep 2009

Your Say

Is it that big a deal?

(Read More)
Jono of Brisbane

The book’s authors encourage travellers to hop on a plane to the region, noting that many Aussies living on the east cost fail to visit their Western neighbour due to the distance.

“While word is out about the southwest, distance still dissuades many Aussie eastcoasters – take the opportunity to make it here before they do,” the book says...
...Other countries named in the top 10 were El Salvador, Germany, Greece, Malaysia, Morocco, Nepal, Portugal, Suriname and the USA.
more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26293675-36335,00.html

palomino
03-11-2009, 12:42 AM
El Salvador better to visit than Australia - Lonely Planet

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7125513,00.jpg

El Salvador better to visit than Australia - Lonely Planet

The Courier-Mail
November 02, 2009 03:20pm

AUSTRALIA has failed to make a Lonely Planet list of the best countries in the world to visit - beaten out by New Zealand, Malaysia... and El Salvador.

The travel bible's popular Best in Travel guide rates the top 10 countries to visit next year.
Feedback YOUR SAY: El Salvador, New Zealand better countries than Australia?

Our cousins across the Tasman top the list, with authors saying: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

All the millions spent on marketing Australia to the world didn't count for much, with the third world charms of El Salvador, the central American nation beset by civil war for almost 20 years until 1992, seen as more attractive.

Although, on Lonely Planet's website, among colourful photographs of surf and markets, is a warning: "Travel Alert: Criminal activity is a problem in El Salvador".

But there was one saving grace for Australia with the south-west of Western Australia winning a spot in the top 10 regions worldwide.
Related Coverage

* Lonely Planet lists top 10 countriesNEWS.com.au, 2 Nov 2009
* More Aussies holidaying overseas than hereNEWS.com.au, 6 Oct 2009
* Night and day, Dali draws a crowdThe Australian, 5 Oct 2009
* Couple's holiday survival guideNEWS.com.au, 1 Oct 2009
* Travellers shun Queensland for VictoriaNEWS.com.au, 25 Sep 2009

Your Say

Is it that big a deal?

(Read More)
Jono of Brisbane

The book’s authors encourage travellers to hop on a plane to the region, noting that many Aussies living on the east cost fail to visit their Western neighbour due to the distance.

“While word is out about the southwest, distance still dissuades many Aussie eastcoasters – take the opportunity to make it here before they do,” the book says...
...Other countries named in the top 10 were El Salvador, Germany, Greece, Malaysia, Morocco, Nepal, Portugal, Suriname and the USA.
more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26293675-36335,00.html


You beat me to it Faraday! : )

What really caught my attention was this part:

Although, on Lonely Planet's website, among colourful photographs of surf and markets, is a warning: "Travel Alert: Criminal activity is a problem in El Salvador".

and this readers comment
Gazing of Belly Posted at 5:11pm November 02, 2009
Why are we Aussies so self-concious about what the rest of the world thinks of us? I know I wouldn't be going to El Salvidor in a hurry no matter what Lonely Planet said about it!
I wouldn't be going to the U.S. either.
Australia's the safest place to be!

vera susa
03-11-2009, 12:57 AM
BIKIES-1 SURFIES-0

Hells Angels win legal battle
with fashion label Mambo
over death head logo

By Sarah Elks

The Australian

November 03, 2009 07:45am


Hells Angels
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7126876,00.jpg
Centre of dispute ...
the Hells Angels' 'death head' logo / Supplied

* Death head logo at centre of dispute
* Bikies gets written apology
* Fashion: Latest news and pictures

WHEN the Hells Angels
saw their "death head" logo
on a Mambo sweatshirt,
they reached not for the baseball bats
of stereotypical bikie lore,
but for their lawyers,
in a bid to protect
their intellectual property.

The Australian has revealed that Gazal Corp -
Mambo's previous owner - has been forced to apologise to
the motorcycle club, following a hard-fought legal stoush
which began in the federal Magistrates Court late last year.

As part of a confidential settlement in favour of the bikies, Michael Gazal, managing director of Gazal Corp Ltd, penned an apology to
the Hells Angels Motorcycle Corp (Australia) Pty Ltd,
for manufacturing and selling the garments.

"Gazal would like to publicly
acknowledge the Hells Angels' intellectual property rights
in its trademarks and artistic works, and the considerable reputation
it has in those trademarks and artistic works, a reputation which
stems from a long history of use both in Australia and internationally,"
the apology, obtained by The Australian, reads.

The offending garments were
a child's hooded sweatshirt
and
a sugar-pink mini-skirt.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So, thought those Greenie/Peace Freaks were 'The Good Guys'...
yeah, like, 'Women in Power Prevent Wars'...Skin, Uniform, Patch,
Nation or Sex is not what separates people, but their SPIRIT...
Oh don't get me wrong, this was a handy bit of cross marketing,
but it also looks like KIDS are NO LONGER, 'free game'.

So anyway, when there is any re-structure, heads must roll, but
we're currently going through a GLOBAL POWER RE-STRUCTURE,
so you can expect that list of DEAD TOP END of TOWN people, and,
"may as well be dead, for all the power you no longer have", 'Elites'
to keep growing...


Breaking News

* 08:52am Former spy killed outside Putin office
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26298105-23109,00.html

* 08:50am Dead man outside hotel 'suspicious'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26298100-29277,00.html

* 08:22am Police list club boss Ibrahim as 'bikie'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26298065-29277,00.html

Yandoit shooting: man may lose leg
MEG RAYNER
1/11/2009 12:14:00 AM
http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/yandoit-shooting-man-may-lose-leg/1664973.aspx

Now didn't I always say we
ARE AT WAR and that 'Patches'
are just UNIFORMS of Secret Police
and SOLDIERS...

World News

Biker gunmen injure
six Athens policemen
in drive-by shooting

By Angeliki Koutantou in Athens

Reuters

October 28, 2009 10:17am

Biker gunment shoot police station
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7109104,00.jpg
An Athens police station was shot at by biker gunmen,
injuring six officers and leaving pedestrians in shock / AP

* Drive-by biker gunmen shoot police station
* Six cops injured, one critical
* Rebel sect claiming responsibility

GUNMEN fired a hail of bullets at police officers, injuring six, as they rode by a police station on a motorcycle.

One officer was in serious condition after being shot by the unidentified gunmen in a northern Athens suburb, authorities said today.

Other officers were hurt by bullets or by flying glass.

Leftist and anarchist groups have launched a series of attacks against police, businesses, public institutions and politicians after a policeman shot dead a teenager in Athens in December, prompting Greece's worst riots in decades.

"Two unknown assailants riding a motorcycle shot and injured police officers outside the police station of Aghia Pareskevi," said a police official who declined to be named.

The policeman now in serious condition was guarding the station at the time of the attack.

All six were taken to hospital, as well as a shocked passer-by who passed out after witnessing the attack, the official said.

Related Coverage

* Car bomb rocks Athens stock exchange
The Australian, 2 Sep 2009
* Mumbai suspect admits his guilt
The Australian, 21 Jul 2009
* Soldiers killed by exploding landmine
NEWS.com.au, 17 May 2009
* Most powerful drug lord captured
NEWS.com.au, 16 Apr 2009
* Police shooting 'was not political'
NEWS.com.au, 4 Apr 2009


The far-left Rebel Sect urban guerrilla group claimed responsibility for the killing of a Greek anti-terrorism policeman in June, the worst attack since the December riots.

The Socialists swept to power on October 4, and new Civil Protection Minister Mihalis Chrysohoidis has said that combating resurgent guerrilla groups is his top priority.

This week, a little-known Greek guerrilla group claimed responsibility for makeshift bomb attacks outside the party offices of a minister and a deputy minister last week in the northern city of Thessaloniki.

The Council for the Deconstruction of Order said in a statement posted on a leftist website that it planted the bombs to protest the new Socialist government's efforts to crack down on extremist groups.



And that YENDON and BALLARAT
are GLOBALLY IMPORTANT...


A bird's eye view of Ballarat
http://www.thecourier.com.au/

Pair interviewed over
drive-by shooting
11:40 AM AEDT | BREAKING NEWS:
TWO men are in custody after
two drive-by shootings in
Ballarat East and
Sebastopol
earlier this morning.

Pair interviewed over drive-by shooting
BY MEG RAYNER
28/10/2009 11:40:00 AM
TWO men are in custody
after two drive-by shootings
in Ballarat East and Sebastopol
earlier this morning.

A police media spokeswoman
said a Ballarat man, 18,
and a Melton man, 24,
were being interviewed
by Ballarat police.

"The first incident happened at about 2.15am,''
she said.

"What was then unknown offenders
drove past an address
in Joseph St Ballarat
and shot at a vehicle parked there.

"About half an hour later at 2.50am,
unknown offenders
drove past a house in
Albert St Sebastopol
and shot a rear window of a car.''

She said police believed
it was likely
the incidents were related...

...and closer to 'home' for me
than only the address...



Man admits to ramming police cars
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/small/630168.jpg
27 Oct 09 |
A DELACOMBE man rammed four police vehicles
with a stolen car during a dangerous pursuit
east of Ballarat, a court was told yesterday.
Ballarat Magistrates Court was told
Bradley Steven Gibson drove on the wrong side of the road,
forced other motorists to take evasive action and crashed
into a fence during the pursuit between Ballan and Bullarto
on the afternoon of October 14.

The dog days of the spring carnival
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/largefront/630177.jpg
The dog days of the spring carnival
IF YOU think racing has gone to the dogs,
you may be right.
The third annual
Yendon Red Cross ...

And at this point I will again CHALLENGE
ALL readers to go through ALL MY POSTS
and then try to deny that I HAVE ALWAYS
WITNESSED and WARNED what
God's Word Called me to SEE and WARN OF.

Then, THINK about THE POWER that GIVES
me the 'foolish' COURAGE to put myself in so
MUCH REAL DANGER FOR ManKIND and SURVIVE...
SO FAR...

Yes, there IS a RE-Building and RE-Planting
to be done in This Glorious Land and for that
WE NEED GIVING WORKERS, NOT SPITEFUL TAKERS.


And speaking of the latter; "WHO" ARE my detractors,
and WHY is it "me" 'They' keep lying about, rather than
ANSWER ONE SIMPLE CHALLENGE:

WHY DIDN'T "The MOTHER Church" APPLY GOD'S DESCRIPTIONS
of ALL THE WORLD, ALL THE EARTH and ALL PEOPLES, after
RE-discovering and MAPPING 'The New Worlds' and ALL THE WORLD?

WHY KEEP SAYING GOD WAS TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHERE HALF
of The Earth HE CREATED and the peoples HE SCATTERED over it, ARE?

WHY KEEP WORSHIPPING The DEATH CYCLE when
SCIENCE KNOWS THAT'S WHAT IT IS?

Three 'questions' all 'stating' the same thing:

"'the cross' is 'in the ballpark',
(but it was a stake and 'Egypt' IS AMERICA)
WHY DENY THE OBVIOUS, child...
when you can just 'shoot the messenger'?"

The Lying SPYING
Conspiracy Industry's
NOT-SO-SECRET...

Spying has never been so easy
JONATHAN PEARLMAN
NATIONAL SECURITY
October 28, 2009

AUSTRALIA'S
domestic spy agency has warned
that foreign intelligence agencies
have expanded their cyber-espionage
and are developing new equipment
to infiltrate Australian governments
and businesses.

In its annual security review,
ASIO labels terrorism as its top priority.
It says internet-enabled hacking
and spying and foreign interference
remain serious risks
and that the threats are
becoming more sophisticated.

The review,
tabled in Parliament yesterday,
is an unclassified version of
a highly sensitive report
to the Attorney-General,
Robert McClelland.

''The threat of hostile intelligence services
exploiting Australian information systems
was brought into sharper focus,
with traditional espionage methods
supplemented by new
high-technology techniques,'' it says.

''ASIO found further evidence
of hostile intelligence services
using the internet
as a means of appropriating
confidential Australian
government and business
information.''

ASIO says ''small numbers of Australians''
continue to pose a terrorist threat
and seek inspiration and resources
from foreign conflict zones and failed states.

''The Middle East, South Asia and now East Africa
are the primary sources of motivation and capability
for extremists in Australia … and some aspire to
participate in the violence or seek to
learn from the tactics and techniques
employed by extremists.''

The director-general, David Irvine, said
counter-espionage experts
were working with other security agencies
to bolster electronic security
for government and businesses.

''Today's increasingly interconnected world
has great benefits, but it also provides
new opportunities for state and
non-state actors
to advantage themselves
at Australia's expense.''

PSST...the SPIES are those SECRETIVE people who
HAVE TO HIDE who they REALLY ARE...I'm only an
independent thinker who wanders around noticing what
isn't supposed to be noticed...and asks questions that
'others' have already PLANNED "ANSWERS" to, BECAUSE
'They' to, KNOW that MITSRAYIM IS The AMERICAS.

vera susa
03-11-2009, 05:45 AM
Nearly 'weaned' from the old thread, but not quite...bit hard not to
go and check on the next PLOT BEING HATCHED, by those who
USE CODE to ORDER 'HITS'...hint: when the DOGS you whistle up,
are that stupid that anyone can read the code, expect to LOSE
most of your 'flock'!

So here's me, without a "K" on my keyboard and under constant
hack attacks, now labelled a "NET AGENT" by those who RUN SITES
and WRITE COMPUTER PROGRAMMES???

Well why not? 'They've' tried and failed to get just about every other
emotive label to stick to me, in lieu of being able to explain why ROME
can adopt modern 'creation science' that's TIED INTO the "Egypt time-LInE",
but will NOT adopt modern Good Science that AGREES with God's DESCRIPTIONS of what He Created.

Yes, I to, am tired of years of LIBELS, THREATS, THEFTS and VIOLENCE
being ORDERED and FUNDED BY TPTB Behind The Conspiracy INDUSTRY.

I remember you as well questioning my motives or whatever.
If you dont like it then PISS OFF.
Am a bit tired of folks bumping in and have all kinds
of theories about me.

Tin-Tin--

I NEVER questioned YOUR motives, I questioned what was actually going on when one decides to post to this forum, that's all.

Unless someone is fawning all over you for some post you did, I see that you get real defensive -again another sign of an alcoholic. But I'm not calling you one. Remember, you are the one that said that you drink all the time. So this is not a theory, this is what you are saying about yourself.

Maybe you should take a look inside YOUR SELF Tin-Tin.

And once again, posting 'links' doesn't make you a GENIUS--a lot of it is common sense but a lot of it is hermenuetics (look it up) as people will believe even a lie, if they want to.

For example: Here's what wiki says about another Tin-Tin: Rin Tin-Tin:

The dog's big break came when he stepped in for a recalcitrant wolf in The Man From Hell's River (1922). Rin Tin Tin would be cast as a wolf or wolf-hybrid many times in his career, though not looking like one.

In other words, are you in a disguise?

Now we know that 'You just do what you do' because this is what you said in your last post. But as you can see from the aforementioned example that this hemenuetics-linking-posting can even turn on you if you aarn-out careful!

Peace

3:33, 353, 151'13's

Quite...Years of WARNING and FORGIVING, IGNORED BECAUSE
you are a powerless little nobody,
and 'They' ARE OF and BACKED BY TPTB,
so you, let 'em know,
Enough is Enough, 'CALL OFF THE STUPID DOGS
who keep leading people back to your doors',
whimpering for MORE FUNDING and "FAVOURS"...
...even MORE "EXPENSIVE" that Funding... to shut down
THE GOOD News behind 'the news':
GOD HAS KEPT ALL HIS PROMISES,
and WILL KEEP Those Remaining. :) ;)
Like REVEALING The HIDDEN TRAITORS of TRUTH...
those who FEAR Their 'Just Deserts' too much to get on with
BAKING A BIG APOLOGY CAKE...too busy POISONING WITNESSES
with a 'Lethal Dose' of LIES in every serve of "FUN food"!

Meanwhile, back in CATHOLIC/IBM'S BALLARAT...


Confucius Classroom open to all
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/largefront/633441.jpg
Confucius Classroom open to all
THE Confucius Classroom
at the former
Golden Point Primary School
will open its doors tomorrow ...


Confucius Classroom open to all
BY STEPHANIE ANDERSON
2/11/2009 1:25:00 AM

THE Confucius Classroom at the former
Golden Point Primary School
will open its doors tomorrow
in a bid to raise community interest in the program.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/large/633441.jpg
A TASTE OF CHINA:
Chinese teacher Lily Zhang
is hoping people will come tomorrow
to find out more about the Confucius Classroom.
Picture: Andrew Kelly

Funded by the Chinese Government, the Confucius Classroom
is part of a program to promote Chinese language and culture
internationally, and is the first of its kind in Australia.

Classroom teacher Lily Zhang said the open day was a chance
for the community to get a taste of what the programs offered.

"On open day, people can see that Chinese is not very difficult
and is very interesting, so then they might want to learn Chinese,"
Ms Zhang said. The classroom offers
Chinese language classes for travellers, businessmen
and students from primary to VCE level.

The program is supported by the Federal Government
as part of the push for Asian languages in Australian schools.

The Confucius Classroom open day will be held from 4pm to 8pm.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Where 'They' will 'speak to those who know' while
using VATICAN APPROVED 'Chinese history' to 're-fix'
the ROMAN 'time-LInES' in the minds of the 'profane'.

vera susa
03-11-2009, 06:20 AM
Ah yes, The Sport of KINGS and DICTATORS ...

Chechen dictator could use
Melbourne Cup for
money laundering: expert


Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov.
http://images.smh.com.au/ftsmh/ffximage/2009/09/19/ramzan_wideweb__470x357,0.jpg
Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov.

November 2, 2009 - 4:36PM

The Melbourne Cup could become part of
an international money laundering scheme
if Chechen dictator Ramzan Kadyrov's horse
Mourilyan
wins the race, an expert in Russian politics says.

Kadyrov has been described as the new Stalin and compared to Saddam Hussein and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il because of the human rights abuses and murders he has allegedly perpetrated in Chechnya.

As the richest man in the former Soviet state, he has 99.9 per cent of the vote, a $1 million watch, a gold-plated gun and a stable of horses based in Dubai.

South African trainer Herman Brown has brought Mourilyan out for Tuesday's Cup and if the highly fancied stayer gets up, the $3.3 million prize money and the gold cup will be headed for Grozny, Chechnya's capital.

"It's a moral dilemma. If Kim Jong-il applies to have a horse run next time, what should we do?" said Australian National University academic Leonid Petrov.

"Perhaps there should be stricter criteria put forward for applicants.

"Kadyrov is implicated in many nasty things in Chechnya, in Russia and outside the borders of Russia. Personal enemies of Kadyrov die like flies in Russia and also in Dubai."

Russian security forces last week foiled an assassination attempt on Kadyrov, who thrives on the financial and political backing of the Kremlin.

"Lots of money has been pumped into Chechnya to prop up the regime of Kadyrov," Dr Petrov said.

"How much of this money has been used on his horses, we don't know but if the horse wins, the money will be the personal property of Ramzan Kadyrov.

"In that case it will become quite questionable whether the Melbourne Cup is participating in an international money laundering scheme."

Brown said he is aware of the controversy surrounding Kadyrov, whom he has only met once and communicates with through a government interpreter.

"I'm obviously aware of what people talk about," he said.

"I'm not really sure I'm the man to really talk about it. I'm just concentrating on the race.

"I don't know this (allegations against Kadyrov) for a fact. Maybe after the Cup, I'll investigate it."

British racing authorities are investigating Kadyrov and will rule in February whether to ban his horses from competing in the country.

If a British ban is enforced, he is likely to be shunned globally.

"Clearly we have to abide by the laws of whatever country we race in," Brown said.

Brown said it was his idea to bring Mourilyan - which races in the red, white and green colours of the Chechen flag - to the Melbourne Cup and he has very little direct contact with Kadyrov who will watch the race in Grozny.

"He's easy to deal with," Brown said.

"I've met him once in Dubai last December and he was very pleasant to me.

"As an owner and a business relationship, the guy's great. He buys expensive horses, he pays the bills really well and he doesn't interfere with the training. Ask any trainer and they're the criteria you want from an owner."

A$5.65 million in total prize money and
A$3.3 million to the winner. ...

... that would mean a fair hunk for 3RD:

SHOCKING
has won the 2009 Melbourne Cup,
edging out
Crime Scene with
Mourilyan taking third place.

The full list of placings is:

1st SHOCKING(21)
2nd CRIME SCENE(10)
3rd MOURILYAN(13)
4th MASTER O'REILLY(15)
5th HARRIS TWEED(19)
6th ALCOPOP(11)
7th VIEWED(8)
8th C'EST LA GUERRE(6)
9th KIBBUTZ(7)
10th NEWPORT(17)
11th DAFFODIL(20)
12th MUNSEF(4)
13th GALLIONS REACH(5)
14th LEICA DING(1)
15th ISTA KAREEM(22)
16th ALLEZ WONDER(12)
17th CAPECOVER(18)
18th BASALTICO(9)
19th ZAVITE(2)
20th SPIN AROUND(3)
21st ROMAN EMPEROR(14)
22nd FIUMICINO(23)
23rd WARRINGAH(16)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes, just like Cricket 'names' and 'scores'
Racing 'names' and 'placing', mean,
"different things, to different people".

vera susa
03-11-2009, 06:34 AM
SHOCKING "COLOURS" TO...
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/03/833100/6-620X260-DEFCON-melbourne--620x0.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/ftsmh/ffximage/2009/11/03/shocking_wideweb__470x282,0.jpg
Shocking breaks clear of Crime Scene with
Mourilyan in third place,
50 metres from the finish post.
Photo: Justin McManus

vera susa
03-11-2009, 07:19 AM
Since that damn movie,
I can't see
"PIRATES of THE CARIBBEAN",
without thinking,
"BURMA TREASURES"...

BBC NEWS

The Big Picture: Candles

Women light candles
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46652000/jpg/_46652195_mon-big-pic-final.jpg
Women light candles during a festival at
the Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon, Myanmar,
1 November 2009.

Photo by: Khin Maung Win/AP

Previous photo: Been and gone ...

... yep, when you've been to and gone from
BALLARAT>MELBOURNE>BALLARAT,
The ORANGE BOATS, EUREKA TOWER and
THIS, STAND OUT...
Cypriot Turkish Islamic Community
618 Ballarat Road, Sunshine
http://www.visitmelbourne.com/content/2007/feb/mosque-350x150jpg.jpg
The MINARET Jenolan Caves AUSTRALIA
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Large_very_white_stalagmite.jpg/180px-Large_very_white_stalagmite.jpg
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/burma/images/yangon-rangoon/schwedagon/shwedagon-pagoda-c-sacredsites.jpg
Shwedagon Pagoda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to legend,
the Shwedagon Pagoda is 2500 years old.

Archaeologists believe the stupa was actually built
sometime between the 6th and 10th centuries by the Mon,
but this is a very controversial issue
because according to the records by Buddhist monks
it was built before Lord Buddha died in 486 BC....

.... whereas GOD'S RECORDS ARE 100% :)!

vera susa
03-11-2009, 08:29 AM
Now add 'The Big Picture's' "PARTNER",
"VALUED EXPOSURE",
and SEE how 'The News' "READS"...


Valued exposure: Rioting

Bystanders look on as a building
belonging to Sikh merchants
burns in New Delhi
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46655000/jpg/_46655014_gandhi-final.jpg
Bystanders look on as a building
belonging to Sikh merchants
burns in New Delhi,
in the wake of then Prime Minister
Indira Gandhi's assassination.

In the four days of rioting which
following Gandhi's death over 1,000 people,
mostly Sikhs were killed. 2 November 1984.

Photo by: Bedi/AFP

Previous photo: Wall Street

And now KNOW, this IS Related...
MUSLIM "bikies" WITHOUT BIKES...yeah right,
SELL us another one, your UNholy Roman Lowness:
http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/bikie-wars/images/main-title.png
http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/bikie-wars/bikiesatwar.html

vera susa
03-11-2009, 08:43 AM
BBC NEWS
ENGLAND'S BIG PICTURE

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1257174553/img/1.jpg
Surfers catch waves generated
from the new artificial surf reef
created at Boscombe near Bournemouth, Dorset,
following its official launch.

The delayed reef in Boscombe has
spiralled in costs from £1.35m in 2006 to £3m.

And then you can always pop on down to Bells
and other local Natural Breaks...
http://www.ludssurfingpage.bravepages.com/surfmap8.gif
http://www.prosurfing.com/prosurf_images/asp_2007/rcp_bells_beach.jpg
http://imagecache5.art.com/p/LRG/20/2097/3YP2D00Z/rodney-hyett-surfers-at-bells-beach-torquay-australia.jpg
http://images-1.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/2921407-4-joel-parkinson-wins-2009-rip-curl-pro-at-bells-beach-2.jpg
http://weareh2o.com/weareh2o/freshfriday/Spring2006/photos/bellsbeach.jpg

vera susa
03-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Yes, P.R.A.Y. ...

BBC NEWS
N IRELAND'S BIG PICTURE

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1256919144/img/1.jpg
Kieran Stewart captured these Greylag geese
taking a stroll on the Shankill Road in Belfast.
If you have pictures of NI you would like to see
on the BBC News website, please send them to
[email protected] - See www.bbc.co.uk/terms for conditions.

SCOTLAND'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1257167932/img/1.jpg
David Tink from Aberdeen sent in this picture
with the simple title,
"Descending on the Cairngorm Railway".

WALES' BIG PICTURE
(needs no interpretation
with 9 y.o. DOMINATRIX'S
in 'the news' recently)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1257163215/img/1.jpg

http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/29039-miley-cyrus-sister-slammed-for-wearing-dominatrix-halloween-costume/1256820378_noah-cyrus-290.jpg


and BALLARAT'S EISTEDDFOD just finishing:
http://www.visitvictoria.com/content/2009/jun/rssc.jpg
Royal South Street Competitions

Event
27 Jul - 1 Nov 2009
Venue
Her Majesty's Theatre

The Grand National Eisteddfod
is the largest and longest running in Australasia.

Featuring over 10,000 competitors annually
in sixteen different disciplines of performing arts
which expand across the categories of music, dance,
speech, calisthenics and drama.

The Royal South Street annual Eisteddfod is run primarily by volunteers.

Its members and friends give generously of their spare time
to encourage enjoyment and excellence in the performing arts.

We do this by way of competition, festival, concert, publicity, and
even guest speakers.
We aim to help aspiring Australians
from three year olds to adults.

The Society is the longest operating competition in Australia.

...but we locals call it,
"The INVASION of THE ALIENS"...
months of OVER MADE UP CHILDREN
PARADING around the streets between events...
...its a SICK Season in Town :mad:!

vera susa
03-11-2009, 09:43 AM
World Breaking News

Four albino harvesters to be hanged

By George Obulutsa in Tanzania

Reuters

November 03, 2009 05:38pm


TANZANIA'S high court has sentenced four men to death by hanging
for killing a 50-year-old albino man, local media reported.

Television footage showed the men, who killed Lyaku Willy
and removed his head and legs, leaving the courtroom in
Shinyanga region under heavy police escort.

Willy's killing was one of a spate of attacks on the country's
estimated 200,000 albinos in the past two years,
mostly in the remote northwest of the country near Lake Victoria,
where superstition runs deep.

Their body parts are prized in some regions of Tanzania,
where witchdoctors say albinos - who lack pigment in their skin,
eyes and hair - bring luck in love, life and business.

Albino hunters kill their victims and harvest their blood and body parts
such as hair, genitals and limbs for potions.

"We are glad that the family and friends of Lyaku can finally have
a sense of justice after this horrific loss," Peter Ash, founder of
Under The Same Sun, a Canadian campaign group, said in an email.

"We urge the authorities to swiftly act on the sentence.
Justice delayed
is justice denied."

Related Coverage

* Death sentence for albino child-hunters
NEWS.com.au, 24 Sep 2009
* Snake death toddler's parents charged
Daily Telegraph, 26 Aug 2009
* Migaloo surfaces
NEWS.com.au,
* Alleged people smuggler 'a pawn'
The Australian, 13 Aug 2009
* Albino animals
Courier Mail,


The convictions bring to seven the number of people sentenced for murdering albinos, following the first conviction of three albino killers in September.

"The albino community still lives in a state of absolute fear," said Ash, a Canadian albino.

"Just last week (an) innocent 10-year-old was butchered to death in Geita. His father now fights for his life in hospital due to an attempt to save his son."

Mr Ash called on the government to protect albinos.

The killings have sullied Tanzania's reputation for relative calm in the region, and been condemned by the United Nations and European Union.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* Snake death toddler's parents charged
Daily Telegraph, 26 Aug 2009
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/08/26/1225766/386569-dtstory-python-strangling.jpg
First charges of its kind ...
Charles Jason Darnell comforts girlfriend
Jaren Hare after he discovered his
Bermese python
had stranged Jean's daughter Shaiunna.

They have both been charged with
third-degree murder and manslaughter.
Source: AP
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/jean-hare-and-lover-charles-darnell-charged-over-python-snake-death-of-shaiunna-hare/story-e6frev00-1225766388646

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On any scale, Baby
you're a real big star
CATHY MORRIS
1/11/2009 12:13:00 AM
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/full/632649.jpg

GETTING TO KNOW YOU:
Ballarat Wildlife Park manager
Stuart Parker with Baby,
a rare and very large
albino Burmese python.
Picture: Jeremy Bannister

BALLARAT Wildlife Park's
newest attraction
may be called Baby,
but she's far from small.

The albino Burmese python
is 4.2 metres long
and weighs 20 kilograms.

She was recently donated to the park
by a private collector
and is already becoming a drawcard.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/on-any-scale-baby-youre-a-real-big-star/1664972.aspx

vera susa
03-11-2009, 10:17 AM
Readers, in looking for another old post,
this one caught my eye again, as an example of how,
"grown ups" CAN 'agree to disagree' and KEEP TALKING until,
they find they AGREE on MORE than than they Dis-agree with.

This is HEALTHY conversation...oh yes, we 'drew swords and blood',
but it was a "Fair Contest", RESPECTFULLY played... that I'm always
happy to engage in ... being one who would rather, Lose to a Champion,
or Draw with an Equal, than Beat an 'Also-Ran' :) ;)...ownoiz is another, NOT, 'also-ran', :) ;).

I was also captivated by your anylsis of the post containing the apple bit .

the comment about that picture you wrote was that

"It is the circle of death" -------------not life .

I would say ----------well done to that answer .
I see tricks like that played on the human mind from so many sources .
They claim its a circle of life when indeed it really is the circle of death .

I may have seemed off key with you near the begining of your thread ---------from your point of view yet there is so much more to me that you dont know .

half of which --------------I can see what you see even though I no longer use the book .


I used too use it so much ------------------ I forget why I dont now though .Just for the record -----------I have seen one of your posts say that so many people do not want you on their forums .

I have given religouse folks here the odd "tracker bashing" for the very reason that they preach but are unable to give any proof ( unlike your self here ) and keep refuring back to the book rather than supply evidence as they go ( unlike you do ) -----so dont leave this forum will ya now !

I admire folks with belief ----------------if they are strong in that belief.

I have been told once or twice that the odd folk have left because of me ---------------how weak minded is that for responsability ?

If they had true faith / true belief ------------a Million trackers ( lol ) wouldn't put them off.

Also ------------you sound similar to an old buddy I had here once who has left long ago .

he too new about the other believers -----who were drowning in the milk ( bible ) yet were unable to handle the meat ( deeper truths hidden ) within the verses .
Those truths ---------- you seem to be showing here ------------the real ---------meat .
when I say milk ( bible) I dont mean it the way it sounds .
Im trying to say that those people could refure to the book ---------but could not illestrate why they have .

there that sounds better .

just thought I would say that .

:cool:

double :cool:, ;):).

vera susa
03-11-2009, 10:34 AM
and that bit where you said

quote;
"I don't, "suffer (willingly ignorant) fools gladly",

very good .

:cool:

NOT "sucking", simply stressing the point of the
O.P. "Up's Head" that I've grown tired of repeating
the same answers to the same, 'Red Herring Salesmen',
when I only want to get on with 'watering the thirsty'.

By all means, Challenge my understanding, but please,
make it a new, exciting, CHALLENGING Challenge,
and no more CATHOLIC 'ARTS',
presented as if 'historic fact' :o;) !
The Conspiracy INDUSTRY has NO END of THAT,
long ago debunked, BS!

vera susa
03-11-2009, 11:06 AM
FIRST: click on the little box with the arrow.
Because, the link exists here, but NOT in the body of the thread.

andrium!
abolutely correct. about the same for me. I indeed alo find that bizarre :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aq-DyoZ4PY
Singing along while I ponder, de javu dripping now too :rolleyes: hmm.

So why do all these LINKS and IMAGES that
better EXPOSE Conspiracy Industry Agents
for what they are and how they work,
[U]KEEP VANISHING from the PUBLIC FORUM?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aq-DyoZ4PY

I ask because I've often allowed my posting record
to be 'my witness of integrity', only to go back looking
for quotes, that do NOT APPEAR in The PUBLIC Forum,
but ARE Still there in the quote boxes...fat lot of good
that does, when most can't be bothered clicking on a link
to a story they feel they have to re-write without ever
having read the original...oh, hang on, that IS The Behaviour
of "THEM"...so does that mean ACTUAL INDEPENDENT THINKERS
ARE actually researching the sources of what they find on
Conspiracy Sites...and so, NOT being swept up by those mobs,
addicted to chasing 'The Popular'?

vera susa
03-11-2009, 11:42 AM
GIVE IT UP!

KNOW "THEY" HAVE ADMITTED,
YOUR DEFEAT!

When a site THIS "BIG & FAMOUS",
HAS TO HIDE LINKS and IMAGES
that DON'T SELL, 'Conspiracy INDUSTRY',
i.e. 'CATHOLIC', PRODUCTS,
(but rather, remind readers that REAL WORTH is
FREELY RECEIVED and GIVEN of God's Holy Spirit),
'They' also KNOW 'YOU' DON'T CARE
about JUSTICE or TRUTH, only how 'good'
'you' look in THE FAKE!

And 'you' know who 'you' are.

Yes, yet again when I tried to use the search function here,
I was sent to an "opposing" post, on a page, with MAJOR KEYS
REMOVED FROM GUEST READERS VIEWS and CONSIDERATION.

So, I MUST RETIRE, lest TPTB keep using my work to damn my work,
with their slimy, cheating, 'editorial' (IM)moderating 'ways'.

vera susa
03-11-2009, 12:13 PM
The FIRST of 20 images...

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7112315,00.jpg

NEWS.com.au
Gallery:
War&Terror -
How travel changed
http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,23607,5061771-5019258,00.html#

faraday
03-11-2009, 12:25 PM
GIVE IT UP!

KNOW "THEY" HAVE ADMITTED,
YOUR DEFEAT!

When a site THIS "BIG & FAMOUS",
HAS TO HIDE LINKS and IMAGES
that DON'T SELL, 'Conspiracy INDUSTRY',
i.e. 'CATHOLIC', PRODUCTS,
(but rather, remind readers that REAL WORTH is
FREELY RECEIVED and GIVEN of God's Holy Spirit),
'They' also KNOW 'YOU' DON'T CARE
about JUSTICE or TRUTH, only how 'good'
'you' look in THE FAKE!

And 'you' know who 'you' are.

Yes, yet again when I tried to use the search function here,
I was sent to an "opposing" post, on a page, with MAJOR KEYS
REMOVED FROM GUEST READERS VIEWS and CONSIDERATION.

So, I MUST RETIRE, lest TPTB keep using my work to damn my work,
with their slimy, cheating, 'editorial' (IM)moderating 'ways'.


I see myself indeed as the editor of this thread.
(If I don't do it then NOONE will do it.

:confused:

vera susa
03-11-2009, 01:04 PM
You gotta love the COCKINESS...
time and time again, "certain" poster names
just have to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE for
sucking you in...but please, get it right:
The CIA is too busy teaching IDIOTS how to be MORE GULLIBLE
to have the time or experience to deal with Real Threats to
The UNIVERSAL LIE...it's the WHOLE Conspiracy Industry, NOT
only 'that thread'...

Yes folks, this thread is actually the HEADQUARTERS of the CIA.
All things come together here.

Here is the CIA boss.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Leon_Panetta_official_portrait.jpg/480px-Leon_Panetta_official_portrait.jpg

Leon Panetta.
He is a good friend of mine.
Nice fellow, good sense of humor.
Some of my posts were actualy Panetta's posts.
Smart readers can spot the difference.

So Leon, stll in the Carribean?
Ha, ha, enjoy it man! But easy on the soda! ;)

faraday
03-11-2009, 03:29 PM
Now I know you will see "something" in this Vera.


AI Spacesuits Turn Astronauts Into Cyborg Biologists

* By Brandon Keim Email Author
* November 2, 2009 |
* 2:55 pm |
* Categories: Space, Tech

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/11/cyborgastrobio2.jpg
Equipped with wearable AI systems and digital eyes that see what human eyes can’t, space explorers of the future could be not just astronauts, but “cyborg astrobiologists.”

That’s the vision of a research team led by Patrick McGuire, a University of Chicago geoscientist who’s developed algorithms that can recognize signs of life in a barren landscape.

“When they look at scenery, children gravitate towards the thing that’s different from the other things,” said McGuire. “That’s how I looked at the cyborg astrobiologist.”

At the heart of McGuire’s system is a Hopfield neural network, a type of artificial intelligence that compares incoming data against patterns it’s seen before, eventually picking out those details that qualify as new or unusual.

As described in a paper published Thursday in arXiv, the system successfully differentiates lichen from surrounding rock — a proof-of-principle test that lays the foundation for adding other types of data.

For the last several years, McGuire worked on CRISM, a Mars-orbiting imager that detects infrared and other invisible-to-human-eye wavelengths of light, allowing it to identify different types of rock and soil. McGuire envisions the digital eyes of cyborg astrobiologists as scaled-down versions of CRISM, their data perpetually crunched by the Hopfield networks on their hips.

“You would have a very complex artificial intelligence system, with access to different remote sensing databases, to field work that’s been done before in the area, and it would have the ability to reason about these in human-like ways,” said McGuire.

cyborgastrobio2The lichen tests were conducted in Spain and at Utah’s Mars Desert Research Station, where two of the researchers donned spacesuits and lived for two weeks in the field as astronauts. They carried hand-held digital microscopes and cell phone cameras, which sent the data via bluetooth to netbooks running McGuire’s Hopfield network.

The lichen identification was based on color data. McGuire next plans to train the network to process different textures. Ultimately he wants to conduct analysis at different scales, from the microscopic up to landscape-wide.
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/11/cyborgastrobio2.jpg

McGuire cautioned that his team’s system is “nowhere near” its ready-for-Mars ideal, and it will likely be decades before people explore the surface of Mars in person. In the meantime, cyborg astrobiologists might search the South Pole for Martian meteorites, and feature-identifying algorithms could be uploaded to Mars-roving robots.

“Then you’d have a robotic astrobiologist, and the humans would be back here on Earth, in Mission Control,” he said. “The algorithms help us out, but humans are ultimately responsible.”

Images: Patrick McGuire

vera susa
03-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Now I know you will see "something" in this Vera.


AI Spacesuits Turn Astronauts Into Cyborg Biologists

* By Brandon Keim Email Author
* November 2, 2009 |
* 2:55 pm |
* Categories: Space, Tech

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/11/cyborgastrobio2.jpg
Equipped with wearable AI systems and digital eyes that see what human eyes can’t, space explorers of the future could be not just astronauts, but “cyborg astrobiologists.”

That’s the vision of a research team led by Patrick McGuire, a University of Chicago geoscientist who’s developed algorithms that can recognize signs of life in a barren landscape.

“When they look at scenery, children gravitate towards the thing that’s different from the other things,” said McGuire. “That’s how I looked at the cyborg astrobiologist.”

At the heart of McGuire’s system is a Hopfield neural network, a type of artificial intelligence that compares incoming data against patterns it’s seen before, eventually picking out those details that qualify as new or unusual.

As described in a paper published Thursday in arXiv, the system successfully differentiates lichen from surrounding rock — a proof-of-principle test that lays the foundation for adding other types of data.

For the last several years, McGuire worked on CRISM, a Mars-orbiting imager that detects infrared and other invisible-to-human-eye wavelengths of light, allowing it to identify different types of rock and soil. McGuire envisions the digital eyes of cyborg astrobiologists as scaled-down versions of CRISM, their data perpetually crunched by the Hopfield networks on their hips.

“You would have a very complex artificial intelligence system, with access to different remote sensing databases, to field work that’s been done before in the area, and it would have the ability to reason about these in human-like ways,” said McGuire.

cyborgastrobio2The lichen tests were conducted in Spain and at Utah’s Mars Desert Research Station, where two of the researchers donned spacesuits and lived for two weeks in the field as astronauts. They carried hand-held digital microscopes and cell phone cameras, which sent the data via bluetooth to netbooks running McGuire’s Hopfield network.

The lichen identification was based on color data. McGuire next plans to train the network to process different textures. Ultimately he wants to conduct analysis at different scales, from the microscopic up to landscape-wide.
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/11/cyborgastrobio2.jpg

McGuire cautioned that his team’s system is “nowhere near” its ready-for-Mars ideal, and it will likely be decades before people explore the surface of Mars in person. In the meantime, cyborg astrobiologists might search the South Pole for Martian meteorites, and feature-identifying algorithms could be uploaded to Mars-roving robots.

“Then you’d have a robotic astrobiologist, and the humans would be back here on Earth, in Mission Control,” he said. “The algorithms help us out, but humans are ultimately responsible.”

Images: Patrick McGuire

Just the basic reminder that NOTHING of man
has EVER come close to SAVING man, let alone
the planet. From the wheel to antibiotics, they have ALL
ended up biting us on the bum and continue to gnaw away
at what's left of us...yet STILL, IDIOT KIDS take their
TAVISTOCK (COMIC BOOK), fuelled fantasies into adulthood
to inflict yet more problems on the world...like the NET and
Conspiracy Sites that send everyone back to the dark days
of FEARING ROME and VATICAN DOCTRINE.

Seriously, LOOK INTO IT...SLAG OFF ANY and EVERY Nation,
peoples and beliefs...JUST DON'T DARE TOUCH that INSANE
LIE that God "Lost" most of the world He Created AT THE BEGINNING,
when HE SAID, "FROM THE BEGINNING; ALL THE WORLD".

vera susa
03-11-2009, 11:34 PM
National Breaking News

Primary schools
across the state
set to go bilingual

* EXCLUSIVE by Bruce McDougall
* From: The Daily Telegraph
* November 04, 2009 12:00AM


Bilingual schools
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2009/11/03/1225794/050196-bilingual-schools.jpg
Broader horizons ... Rouse Hill Primary School
students Jeremy Borja, Maddison Roffey, Sally Kim
and Kyal Abbey learn Mandarin /
Pic: Ross Schultz Source: The Daily Telegraph

CHILDREN in their first years of primary school will be required to learn and use an Asian language in the state's first bilingual classes.

Starting in kindergarten,
students will take up
Mandarin, Korean, Japanese or Indonesian
for at least 90 minutes a day,
across every class
except English and mathematics.

Four government primary schools -
Rouse Hill Public and in Sydney's northwest,
Scotts Head Public on the North Coast and Campsie Public
in Sydney's inner-west - have been selected as
the first to specialise in an Asian language.

The Rees Government committed $2.25 million
over four years to the Bilingual Schools Program.

"Young children have a far better chance of developing bilingual fluency
from an early age," Education Minister Verity Firth said yesterday.

"These bilingual schools will teach two classes of students in kindergarten and Year 1 for 90 minutes each day and eventually will be expanded to all grades," Ms Firth said.


Results: Today's poll

Thanks for voting!
Are new bilingual schools in NSW a good idea?

* Yes 39.23% (548 votes)
* No 60.77% (849 votes)

Total votes: 1397

Related Coverage

* Kids start daily Asian language class
Daily Telegraph, 34 minutes ago
* Foreign students back
Adelaide Now, 8 days ago
* 'Get serious' on teaching languages
The Australian, 29 Sep 2009
* More than trade talk
The Australian, 29 Sep 2009
* What a lode of language
The Australian, 18 Aug 2009


"By the completion of primary school, the students will have a solid foundation of the language and it's expected they will continue their
learning into high school."

Rouse Hill Public deputy principal Graham Cooney said his school was
chosen because it already had a strong commitment to teaching Mandarin
as well as having direct links to a school in China.

"The kids really enjoy it . . . progress is slow but steady and
down the track they will be holding daily conversations in Mandarin,"
Mr Cooney said.

Michelle Lao, 10, said: "Mandarin [/B]lessons are enjoyable.
It's hard to learn but it's interesting. I speak it sometimes
with my friends and we try to say words like pizza and hamburger
in Mandarin."
Mandarin-speaking volunteers will assist teachers in class.

It is part of a major push by the Department of Education and Trainingto put Mandarin at the forefront of language teaching in NSW public schools.

Board of Studies data shows Chinese with 1243 enrolments in the HSC, is now the third most popular language after Japanese and French.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Chinese manufacturing
hits 18-month high
November 2, 2009

China’s manufacturing activity continued to expand in October, as domestic and overseas demand strengthened and employment picked up, an independent survey published on Monday showed.

The HSBC China Manufacturing PMI, or purchasing managers index, rose to an 18-month high of 55.4 in October from 55.0 in September.

A reading above 50 means the sector is expanding, while a reading below 50 indicates an overall decline.

‘‘We believe the ongoing strong recovery in the manufacturing sector should gain further momentum in the coming months ... underpinning strong economic growth in the fourth quarter,’’ Qu Hongbin, chief economist for China at HSBC, said in a statement.

A separate official PMI compiled by the National Bureau of Statistics showed manufacturing activity rose to 55.2 in October - the highest since May 2008 - from 54.3 in September.

The HSBC survey showed manufacturers were hiring at the fastest pace since the index started in April 2004 as factories tried to keep up with new orders.

Foreign order levels rose for the fifth straight month and at the strongest rate since June 2007, HSBC said in a report, as global economic conditions improved.

‘‘Anecdotal evidence suggested that firmer demand from abroad, with North America mentioned in particular, had pushed export sales higher,’’ HSBC said.

China’s economy expanded by 8.9 per cent in the third quarter, up from 7.9 per cent in the second quarter and 6.1 per cent in the first three months, mainly as a result of massive government spending amid the global downturn.

Beijing announced a four-trillion-yuan ($652 billion) stimulus package a year ago in a bid to prop up growth in the country by boosting investment in infrastructure and other government-backed projects.

The HSBC PMI sank to a record low of 38.8 in November last year as the global financial crisis took hold, but improved continuously in the following months, moving above 50 in March.

Manufacturing accounted for more than 40 per cent of economic output last year in China, which has been hit hard by evaporating demand for its products in key export markets such as the United States and Europe.

AFP

vera susa
03-11-2009, 11:39 PM
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/04/834177/godmother-300-300x368.jpg
Godmother
Police chief's sister-in-law
who kept 16 lovers jailed

Lurid tales of sex, corruption,
violence and gambling of
mafia-style gang 'Godmother'
rock China.


Gang 'Godmother' who
kept 16 lovers jailed
for 18 years
November 4, 2009 - 6:57AM
Xie Caiping, left, is taken from court after her sentencing.
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/04/834180/caiping1-420x0.jpg
Xie Caiping, left, is taken from court after her sentencing. Photo: AFP

A woman called the "godmother" of a mafia-style gang in China's southern city of Chongqing has been sentenced to 18 years in prison for running underground casinos and bribing government officials.

The trial of Xie Caiping is part of a months-long crackdown in the city that has exposed widespread government and police involvement in providing cover to numerous local gangs, or "black societies".

It has also riveted China's state-controlled media with tales of a violent underworld.

Twenty-one others were sentenced to between one and 13 years in prison, according to a notice on the Chongqing court website on Tuesday.

The crackdown in Chongqing has been extensive, netting more than 1544 suspects - gangsters, prominent businessmen and 14 high-ranking officials.

Six gang members in the city have already been sentenced to death for crimes including murder and blackmail, the first among hundreds expected to go on trial.

Xie, 46, is the sister-in-law of the city's long-serving deputy police chief, who was detained for investigation by the ruling Communist Party in August. He is regarded as being the centre of an extensive network of protection of local gangs for over a decade.

She cursed in court when her trial started, which drew a rebuke from the judge but delighted the public, which has revelled in tales in the local media that she kept 16 lovers.

Chen Yanling, a Chongqing resident who says she was beaten by thugs after refusing a corrupt policeman's request to turn her teahouse into a casino, said she and other victims waited outside the court for the sentence. But they were angered by the result, with some people refusing to leave until police escorted them away.

"We didn't believe our ears when we first heard it's just 18 years. How many crimes has she committed?" Chen said.

The court notice said Xie's gang "severely broke the normal order of society", and illegally detained others and allowed loan sharking at the casinos.

The casino took a cut of the profits won by gamblers, the notice said. It said casino bosses hired stand-ins to take the blame when there was a crackdown and paid bribes to judicial officials.

The No5 Intermediate People's Court said Xie earned more than 2 million yuan ($300,000) from the illegal activities.

AP
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And on Monday Night here on SBS, we had;

http://fredambroisine.com/images/images_news/200801/ia3german.jpg
Infernal Affairs III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And if you want to understand the relationship
between CRIME GANGS and CORRUPT POLICE
this series will will keep you up...oh for, forever!

Oh, and yet another example of why I DON'T TRUST
Conspiracy Nuts who TELL EVERYONE to AVOID ALL MSM.
'They' just don't want you eavesdropping on 'Their',
SECRET OUT IN THE OPEN, Conversations!

vera susa
04-11-2009, 12:29 AM
Levi-Strauss dead at 100
November 4, 2009 - 7:01AM

French anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss, whose work deeply influenced Western thinking about civilisation, has died at the age of 100, his publisher Plon said on Tuesday.

Levi-Strauss died overnight Saturday to Sunday, according to fellow academics at the school of social sciences.

Trained as a philosopher, Levi-Strauss shot to prominence with his 1955 book Tristes Tropiques, a haunting account of his travels and studies in the Amazon basin that is considered one of the 20th century's major works.

He was a leading proponent of structuralism, which sought to uncover the hidden, unconscious or primitive patterns of thought believed to determine the outer reality of human culture and relationships.

Structuralism was also, Levi-Strauss liked to say, "the search for unsuspected harmonies."

He had celebrated his 100th birthday on November 28 last year.

French academia and the cultural elite had mobilised to pay homage to Levi-Strauss with a program of films, lectures and reflection on his contribution to modern thinking.

Among the more striking conclusions of his work was the idea that there is no fundamental difference between the belief systems and myths of so-called "primitive" races and those of modern western societies.(yes that's because ALL PEOPLES STARTED
AS GOD DESCRIBED, then Moved, Scattered, Mixed and Mingled,
around the WHOLE World, exchanging OLD MEMOURIES for
LOCAL LIES as they went along...myths of 'primitive' people
are NO DIFFERENT to the LIES of TODAY'S VATICAN, but God's
Living Word HAS ALWAYS DESCRIBED WHAT IS!)

AFP

vera susa
04-11-2009, 12:49 AM
So AGAIN, man can brag that they know how
the earth shaped as it has, while "christians"
still FLATLY REFUSE TO SEE that GOD DID
DESCRIBE IT ALL FROM THE BEGINNING,
BECAUSE they "need" the rest of ROME'S LIES
to hang their feeble worldly 'faith' on...like that
"Red" sea GARBAGE; also NOT IN HIS WORD,
but part of ROME'S Marketing of Real Estate Re-location.
It was The REED Sea!




Science & Nature

Volcanic eruptions may split Africa:
scientists

From correspondents in Addis Ababa

Agence France-Presse

November 04, 2009 07:38am

Volcano
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7136095,00.jpg
A huge crater that is really a volcano
that has been slowly eroded in Mauritania in Africa
/ Landsat satellite

* Desert rift will likely become a new ocean
* Same rift activity parting the Red Sea
* Breaking news: What's happening now

VOLCANIC activity may split the African continent in two owing to a recent geological crack in northeastern Ethiopia, researchers said today.

The 60km split in the desolate Afar region, which was the result of two volcanic eruptions in September 2005, has enabled scientists to further examine the earth's tectonic movements, said a report published in the Geophysical Research Letters.

LiveScience.com reports the rift will likely become a new ocean eventually.

The site reports: "The African and Arabian plates meet in the remote Afar desert of Northern Ethiopia and have been spreading apart in a rifting process - at a speed of less than 2.5cm per year - for the past 30 million years. This rifting formed the 300km Afar depression and the Red Sea. The thinking is that the Red Sea will eventually pour into the new sea in a million years or so. The new ocean would connect to the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden, an arm of the Arabian Sea between Yemen on the Arabian Peninsula and Somalia in eastern Africa."

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The Australian, 3 Oct 2009
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* Earth from space
Adelaide Now,
* Climate crisis 'worst in history'
Perth Now, 15 Jun 2009


The crack, six metres wide in spots, opened in 2005 and some geologists believed then that it would spawn a new ocean. But that view was controversial, and the rift had not been well studied.

"The significance of the finding is that a huge magnetic deformation can happen within a few days like in oceans," Atalay Arefe, an Ethiopia-based university professor who was part of the study, said.

Researchers say faults and fissures, which normally occur deep down on the ocean floor, are the main processes by which continents gradually break off from each other.

They cite Africa, which underwent a similar phase when it split from America millions of years ago.

"Normally, such phenomena happens beneath the ocean, which is inaccessible, expensive and very difficult to make experiments. But in Afar, it's quite a natural laboratory for us to carry those out," Mr Atalay explained.

Mr Atalay, who was part of an international group of scientists who have been undertaking studies since the eruptions, said the event indicated what was likely to happen in the mainland.

"The ocean's formation is happening slowly, likely to take a few million years. It will stretch from the Afar depression (straddling Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti) down to Mozambique," he said.

The Afar region, known for its salt mines and active volcanoes,
is one of the lowest and hottest places on the planet.
(Oh and "ETHIOPIA" is NOT in HIS WORD either. Every time
ROME "Places You There", GOD is really saying CUSH, and African's
are NOT the ORIGINAL BLACK PEOPLE, AUSTRALIAN NATIVES ARE.

SO, when God said He was giving Israel THE LAND OF CUSH...
and I still can't believe so many find these simple facts so hard
to come to terms with!)

vera susa
04-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Yes "They" ARE, "CULLING THE PACKS"
of those who have become LIABILITIES...
an 'accident' here, a 'suicide' there, 'domestic'
and 'personal' disputes getting deadly...

And now KNOW, this IS Related...

MUSLIM "bikies" WITHOUT BIKES...

yeah right,
SELL us another one, your UNholy Roman Lowness:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86338&page=56

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http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/bikie-wars/bikiesatwar.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Man killed in car explosion
at North Adelaide
Article from: The Advertiser

November 04, 2009 06:44am

A 53-year-old man died after a fiery explosion engulfed his car at North Adelaide, prompting a major police investigation.

Witnesses said a man had entered the silver Commodore on Mackinnon Pde, shortly before an explosion and subsequent fire about 10pm last night.

When firefighters arrived, the fire had engulfed the car.

The body was found in the car after the fire was extinguished. Detectives and police explosive technicians were at the scene last night.

The man was identified as a 53-year-old from the northern suburbs and his death is not considered suspicious.

If you are feeling depressed, lonely
or have personal problems,
you can get help at Lifeline on 131 114,
Sane on 1800 18 7263,
Kids Helpline 1800 551 800 or
Mensline Australia on 1300 789 978.
Or log on to www.beyondblue.org.au
or phone 1300 224 636.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

National Breaking News

Arrest after man found dead in Cobram

AAP

November 04, 2009 09:39am

POLICE have arrested a man following a death in Victoria's north last night.

Homicide detectives at Cobram police station are questioning the man, aged in his 50s, who is believed to have lived with the victim.

He was arrested last night.

The victim, aged about 50,
was found dead at a house in
Warkil St, Cobram,
about 250km north of Melbourne,
following an incident at that address
about 8pm (AEDT) yesterday, police said.

It was not yet clear how the man died.

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Tears turn to smiles as
Ibrahim wins bail on conspiracy charge
BELLINDA KONTOMINAS
November 4, 2009
Released...a smiling Fadi Ibrahim
leaves Long Bay jail yesterday
with his brother Sam and a corrective services guard
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Released...a smiling Fadi Ibrahim
leaves Long Bay jail yesterday
with his brother Sam and a corrective services guard
Photo: Wolter Peeters

FADI IBRAHIM'S tears fell slowly at first. But as the news began to sink in that the 23-year-old shooting victim would be granted bail on $1 million surety, his tears of relief gave rise to an uncontrollable shuddering of the chest.

It did not seem to matter that he would have to adhere to strict bail conditions, including daily reporting to Chatswood police and being confined to his northern Sydney mansion between 8.30pm and 6am.

His 40 days in jail were up. At least for now. He was released from Long Bay Jail at 5.30 yesterday afternoon, greeted by family members who had earlier scuffled with the media.

Mr Ibrahim kissed his eldest brother, Hassan ''Sam'', on the cheek and embraced bodyguard Semi Ngata before getting into the black Mercedes that had been permitted just inside the gates.

Earlier, at least a dozen police descended on the jail after a television camera was knocked to the ground as Sam Ibrahim walked through the media

Mr Ibrahim, younger brother of the Kings Cross nightclub boss John Ibrahim, was arrested on September 25 and charged with conspiring to murder 37-year-old John Macris, whom he wrongly believed was behind his shooting.

In granting bail, Supreme Court Justice Peter Johnson banned Mr Ibrahim from contacting his four co-accused, including his brother Michael, Rodney Atkinson, Amerigo Gerace and Jim Said Habkouk.

''The prosecution alleges that the motive for this conspiracy was mainly in retaliation for the attempted murder of the applicant,'' Mr Johnson said.

Mr Ibrahim was shot five times as he and his girlfriend sat outside his Castle Cove home on June 5.

His stomach and part of his oesophagus had to be removed and he suffered nerve damage and anxiety. Mr Johnson said his medical care had improved after he was moved from Goulburn to Long Bay Jail hospital last month.

with AAP

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Tearful Fadi gets $1m bail
BELLINDA KONTOMINAS
November 3, 2009
Fadi Ibrahim.

Fadi Ibrahim ... granted bail.
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Fadi Ibrahim burst into tears as he was granted bail of $1 million in the Supreme Court this morning.

Mr Ibrahim, 35, who has been charged with conspiring to murder a Sydney man, was ordered not to have any contact with any of his co-accused, including his brother Michael Ibrahim, who is serving time in jail for another crime. Other conditions include daily reporting to police and a curfew.

If Mr Ibrahim breaches any of his bail conditions, a family member may have to forfeit the $1 million.

Mr Ibrahim, the brother of Kings Cross nightclub identity John Ibrahim, was shot five times as he sat in his car outside his Castle Cove home this year.

He suffered life-threatening injuries and had his entire stomach and part of his oesophagus removed during surgery.

He was taken into custody on September 25 and had been receiving limited medical treatment for his extensive injuries, the court had heard.

In September, Ibrahim, his brother Michael and three other men were charged with conspiracy to murder 37-year-old John Macris.

Justice Johnson said the Crown alleged the motive for the plot was mainly in retaliation for the attempted murder of Mr Ibrahim.

He noted Mr Macris had not been charged with any offence related to the shooting of Mr Ibrahim.

The Crown did not oppose bail.

Justice Peter Johnson agreed, saying he saw no reason to reject the Crown's approach on this issue.

"The charge against the applicant is a serious one. I don't accept that it can be properly categorised as a weak one," Justice Johnson said, adding that if found guilty, Mr Ibrahim could face up to 25 years in jail.

Mr Ibrahim's lawyers had argued that their client could not get proper medical treatment while he was at Goulburn Jail.

Justice Johnson agreed that, if given bail, Mr Ibrahim could be treated in the private system, which was not available to inmates.

Mr Ibrahim appeared in court via video link from Long Bay jail. He was supported in court by family members, including his brother Hassan, a sister and long-time family associate "Tongan" Sam.

He is next due to appear at Central Local Court on November 26.

Bellinda Kontominas is a Herald Court Reporter.

- with AAP

vera susa
04-11-2009, 02:41 AM
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Chinese in Sydney, Australia,
protest a decision by a European satellite provider,
under pressure from the Chinese government,
to stop transmission of an independent Chinese TV network
into the mainland before the Beijing Olympics in 2008

Silencing critics
Is China exporting its
strict domestic censorship?

2 November 2009

China looks to export censorship

By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing

Protesters and police in central Urumqi - 3 September 2009
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Fears about ethnic tension could be motivating China's censorship efforts

A few days before the start of this year's Melbourne International Film Festival its executive director received an "audacious" telephone call.

An official from China's consulate in the city called him to "urge" the festival to withdraw a film about the Chinese activist Rebiya Kadeer.

Beijing then tried to persuade the organisers of the Frankfurt Book Fair not to allow two Chinese writers to attend an event.

China says it does not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

But some see these acts as an attempt by China to use abroad the tough censorship measures it constantly employs at home.

Intimidation and threats

Richard Moore, the Melbourne festival's executive director, said he was astonished to receive the call from the city's Chinese consulate.

"It came down to [the consular official] saying we need to justify our decision to include the film in the programme. It was a remarkable display of confidence and arrogance," he said.

The festival decided to ignore the advice and go ahead with the film - about an activist who campaigns for better rights for China's Uighur minority - but that did not end the issue.

The festival organisation was subjected to an intense campaign of threats, intimidation and disruption, although it is not clear who - if anyone - orchestrated the campaign.

The festival e-mail address received insulting messages, there were waves of annoying phone calls and the fax machine was jammed with callers.
Chinese author and environmental campaigner Dai Qing
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Chinese officials objected to writer Dai Qing speaking in Frankfurt

Some notes to the organisers contained messages threatening Mr Moore's family.

Internet hackers managed to break into the festival's online booking site, making it appear that session tickets had been sold out.

Hackers also managed to post a Chinese flag on the main website and Chinese film-makers withdrew their movies from the festival.

The film at the centre of the controversy - called The 10 Conditions of Love - was finally shown at a larger venue, partly because the publicity surrounding the row increased interest.

Its subject, Rebiya Kadeer, was also invited to take part in a talk at the festival, which took place in July and August.

But Mr Moore admits that the event organisers will look hard at how to showcase controversial films at future festivals.

The Chinese government was just as direct with the organisers of the Frankfurt Book Fair, an annual event that bills itself as a "worldwide marketplace for ideas".

Walkout

China was the guest of honour at this October's fair and Beijing funded a series of events to showcase its literature and culture.

But Chinese officials were angry when they found out writers Dai Qing and Bei Ling had been invited to a symposium connected to the fair.


"China is using its economic influence
to threaten its trade partners
in order to censor what they don't like"
Dai Qing, author

Anger over web censorship
China seeks 'open' control

According to Juergen Boos, the fair's director, China asked the organisers to ban the writers, a request they initially agreed to carry out.

The two Chinese writers were then allowed to speak at the symposium, but when they stood up to make a speech some of the Chinese delegation left the room.

"We did not come to be instructed about democracy," a former Chinese ambassador told the event organisers.

China often asks foreign governments and organisations not to do something that it perceives to be against its interests. It recently complained to Japan when Tokyo allowed Ms Kadeer to enter the country.

But it says this does not contravene its policy of non-interference.

"I believe the Chinese government has not violated the principle of interfering in others' internal affairs," said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu recently in response to a question about this policy.

But writer Dai Qing, who is also an environmental campaigner, believes China's increasing economic muscle has emboldened the country's leaders.

"China is using its economic influence to threaten its trade partners in order to censor what they don't like," she said.

David Zweig, of the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, is not so sure the Chinese are doing it from a position of strength.

"Sometimes we cannot tell whether it's confidence or concern," said Mr Zweig, the director of the Centre on China's Transnational Relations, based at his university.

He said China's attempts to prevent Ms Kadeer from speaking publicly, for example, could be linked to concerns about ethnic tension in Xinjiang, where most Uighurs live.

Hundreds of Uighurs rioted in July, killing scores of Han Chinese people.

Mr Zweig added that there could also be another reason behind the pressure - the Chinese government and its people are often quick to take offence at opinions they do not like to hear.

And he said ordinary people were sometimes more sensitive than officials - forcing the government to take a tougher stance internationally.

That could be why
China is now trying to
censor critical opinions abroad.


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A China cricket shirt
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Chinese women
make cricket debut


China comes to the crease
Media Player
BBC World Service - Programmes - China comes to the crease
Play in either Real OR Windows Media players

When the Asian Games take place in Guangzhou in China, one sport that will make a much anticipated debut is cricket.

China is not known as a cricketing nation, but they are gearing up to face the challenge and they will be fielding a Women's cricket team.

The team has which is still in its developmental stages, is in India for a special training session organised by the Punjab Cricket Association.

The Indian Cricket Board has been helping the China Cricket Association with some coaching expertise by sending Mamatha Maben to coach the Chinese women's team.

Maben played 22 international seasons for India before heading the chinese women's team in March 2009 and she told the BBC World Service that cricket has been improving gradually in China.

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vera susa
04-11-2009, 02:51 AM
This post, like MOST of MINE
does NOT read as I wrote it...so really,
WHY BOTHER with ANY Conspiracy Site
on the CATHOLIC/IBM World Wide WEB
that NETS any FREE THOUGHT that
may still be floating out there...

books »
hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy »
the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy,
version 4
font: b s : a a a . Width: Full 3/4 1/2
author: Amiddle

the belgium virus

the word belgium is considered to be the rudest word in the universe, and is completely banned in all parts of the galaxy, except in one part, where they don't know what it means.

Precisely because the word is banned it is easy for civilisations to forget exactly why the term became so offensive.

Indeed some years ago, during the presidency of the legendary
yooden vranx, various bans were being reviewed and overturned as a matter of course. For example, and despite violent protests, the ban on
brockian ultra-cricket
was maintained. In contrast, a fishing ban on the sparkling blue ocean world of damogran was lifted without an eyebrow being raised.

In reviewing the ban on the word belgium, it was found that its origins had become so obscure that an exploratory mission comprised of the galaxy's greatest epigrammatists, dialecticians and etymologists would have to be despatched to find the true origins of the word. This knowledge would then be genetically programmed into the race memories of every species in the universe - just to be sure.

After many months of painstaking research the mission discovered that there were only two locations in the entire universe where the term belgium was in use. The first, a sparkling blue ocean world known as earth, was considered harmless and had such a low level of interaction with the universe at large that they chose to ignore it. The second was, coincidentally, the even more sparkling and even more blue ocean world known as damogran.

Belgium is a small abandoned damogranian island some 30,000 km². According to the records, a small mountain lake somewhere to the north of the island was said to have been the legendary home of the first babel fish. It was also the home of the first genetically modified babel fish farm.

according to the locals of damogran, the term belgium had been used exclusively as a unit of measurement used by the local tri-d media to enable size comparisons of large areas to be made
(for example "wales is three times the size
of belgium"). This in turn led to a colloquialism, microbelgiums, being used to define a small area roughly the same size as a
brockian ultra-cricket pitch.

this, of course, had no bearing upon why the word belgium was banned, although by association it does explain why brockian ultra-cricket might have been.

And so, undeterred by the distraction of linguistic deviations, the mission travelled to belgium itself, from whence all but one of its party were never to return.

The sole survivor of the mission, vlard harfelbard, returned, only moderately insane, to the galactic core. There he recounted the origins of belgium and its offensive nature. He also revealed the terrible truth behind the genetically modified babel fish farm. It had, he revealed, been an attempt to reprogram the babel fish's telepathic matrix and thus replace the word belgium with the more innocuous sounding word "fk".

The experiment had, of course, gone terribly wrong (some blamed an act of god), and resulted in the entire damogranian babel fish stock being infected with a virus so terrible it was spoken of in hushed tones as... The belgium virus.

so it was decided that under no circumstances should genetic reprogramming ever be considered as a means of removing the word belgium from the galactic consciousness. The origins of the word were secured in a vault for all eternity, whilst a fleet of special officers from the imperial galactic government (i.e. Vogons) were despatched to re-enforce the fishing ban on damogran.

Oblivious to the imminent ban on damogranian babel fishing a young researcher for the hitchhiker's guide, despatched to report upon the lifting of the ban, picked up a couple of infected babel fish and promptly introduced the belgium virus to the rest of the universe.

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brockian ultra-cricket

although it has been said that on earth alone in our galaxy is krikkit
(or cricket) treated as fit subject for a game, and that for this reason
the earth has been shunned, this does only apply to our galaxy,
and more specifically to our dimension.
In some of the higher dimensions they feel they can more or less
please themselves, and have been playing a peculiar game called
brockian ultra-cricket for whatever their transdimensional equivalent
of billions of years is.

Lets be blunt, it's a nasty game, but anyone who has been to the higher
dimensions will know that they're a pretty nasty heathen lot up there who
should just be smashed and done in, and would be, too, if anyone could
work out a way of firing missiles at right-angles to reality.

The rules to the game of brockian ultra-cricket,
as played in the higher dimensions are strange and inexplicable.
A full set of the rules is so massively complicated that the only time
they were all bound together to form a single volume,
they underwent gravitational collapse and became a black hole.

A brief summary, however, is as follows:



rule one:

grow at least three extra legs. You won't need them, but it keeps the crowds amused.

rule two:

find one good brockian ultra-cricket player and clone him off a few times. This saves an enormous amount of tedious selection and training.

rule three:

put your team and the opposing team in a large field
and build a high wall round them.

the reason for this is that, though the game is a major spectator sport,
the frustration experienced by the audience at not actually being able
to see what's going on leads them to imagine that it's a lot more exciting
than it actually is. A crowd that has just watched a rather humdrum game
experiences far less life-affirmation than a crowd that believes it has just
missed the most dramatic event in sporting history.

rule four:

throw lots of assorted items of sporting equipment over the walls for the
players. Anything will do - cricket bats, basecube bats, tennis guns, skis
anything you can get a good swing with.

rule five:

the players should now lay about themselves for all they are worth
with whatever they find to hand.
whenever a player scores a 'hit' on another player,
he should immediately run away
and apologize from a safe distance.

apologies should be concise, sincere and,
for maximum clarity and points,
delivered through a megaphone.

rule six:

the winning team shall be the first team that wins.



Curiously enough, the more the obsession with the game
grows in the higher dimensions, the less it is actually played,
since most of the competing teams
are now in a state of permanent warfare with each other
over the interpretation of these rules.

rick 'too ugly' for spirit trophy
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/10/1073437521431.html?from=storyrhs

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/urlpicture_id_1073437523392_2004/01/11/11s_jhoward.jpg
cricket tragic (and prime minister) john howard
has a ball at the scg during the fourth test.
Picture: David moir

this is all for the best,
because in the long run a good solid war
is less psychologically damaging
than protacted game of
brockian ultra-cricket


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crashed and died 4 days after


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was murdered at age 44

o.k. Now, i have finally got-dyed-in-the-wool
'cricket tragics' in the real world, after 15 or so years,
to admit, cricketers are "selected"
for their spy craft, above their sports skills,
and that "selection" and training
starts from childhood ... There's a reason parents
who don't make their little kids do 'sports',
are called "bad":mad:

But it's particularly those 'elite school' kids
who's families do know the difference between
'the bible' 'they' belt the world with, and
god's living word



after his two failed marriages
brock was hesitant to marry mcintosh.

although the couple never formally married,
peter always called bev his "wife",
and she changed her surname to brock by deed poll.

they had two children together, robert and alexandra.
(but, she married his dead body...
can't be fagged trying to find it now,
but it is in this thread,
very telling images and all!)

the 4th worldly kingdom age:

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when the crash follows
the betrayals of "little people"
conned into believing they're "sovereign",
standing on the toes of the "little people",
who are.

and if i'm such a idiot for standing by
the key points i make, why do "they"
have to keep hacking at my p.c. To make
the most basic functions impossible to
use reliably when i can use them at all?

I waste months of posting time, re-fixing
posts that "they" then only dump the key details
away from all readers who don't read from
the quote box.

vera susa
04-11-2009, 05:39 AM
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President of the Czech Republic
Václav Klaus http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/Vaclav_Klaus_headshot_cropped.jpg/95px-Vaclav_Klaus_headshot_cropped.jpg
signs the Treaty of Lisbon
after it was upheld by the Constitutional Court,
fulfilling the final step in its ratification
across the European Union.
Treaty of Lisbon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, want to KNOW WHY Australia played
a MAJOR ROLE in inventing the FAKE location
of The GLORIOUS LAND PROMISED to the
RE-GATHERED REMNANTS of The Tribes of
ISRAEL...

...then lets get the truth of
God's Word in perspective...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/EU_Insigna.svg/337px-EU_Insigna.svg.png
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=9081&dateline=1211436686


http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs129.snc1/5532_1135686756758_1365022414_30563516_4798700_n.j pg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs129.snc1/5532_1135686996764_1365022414_30563517_2290972_n.j pg


there's only 21 million in Oz,
how may in that area of Europe,
or the US....

yep, we could fit 5-10% of the world's population
in OZ, OZION, O ZION ...as He DESCRIBED..


Czech Republic
Anthem:
"Where is my home?"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/EU-Czechia.svg/250px-EU-Czechia.svg.png
Population ▲10,476,543
HALF Australia's population

Federal Republic of Germany
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/EU-Germany.svg/250px-EU-Germany.svg.png
Population: 82,060,000
4 TIME MORE than Australia's population.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/EU_Insigna.svg/337px-EU_Insigna.svg.png
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=9081&dateline=1211436686

vera susa
04-11-2009, 06:34 AM
Don't buy the BS, it's still the same old game
of, HIDE The TRUTH/HIDE The HISTORY; needing
Grave Threats to distract from noticing too many
'anomalies' in 'accepted' history, as more Northerners
move down this way...oh, to try and take AUSTRALIA over
for themselves!



Australia expels top Fiji diplomat
in retaliation move

Samantha Maiden | November 04, 2009
Article from: The Australian

AUSTRALIA has expelled Fiji's acting high commissioner,
Kamlesh Kumar Arya,
in retaliation for a similar move by Fijian leaders.
Play video.
Fiji expels Aust, NZ diplomats
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26304067-601,00.html
Fiji has expelled Australia's and New Zealand's diplomats
because of interference in its internal...


The move comes as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
warned Fiji's influence could trigger a "coup culture"
in the Pacific and Australia must take a tough stand.

Fiji's military ruler Commodore Frank Bainimarama
has accused Australia of targeting trade and
interfering with judicial appointments
after Fiji sacked its judiciary.

But Foreign Minister Stephen Smith has rejected the first charge,
noting Australia has not imposed trade sanctions.

Mr Rudd said today it was clear Fiji's leaders had violated the constitution, suspended the judiciary and conducted a military coup.

“We do not want this coup culture
to spread elsewhere in the Pacific,”
he told ABC radio.

However, he did not say how Australia would respond to the latest problem.

It's the first time Fiji has expelled
an Australian high commissioner.

The Department of Foreign Affairs
has described the move as
provocative and unreasonable.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/LocationFiji.png

Government: Military junta
Paramount Chief of Fiji: Queen Elizabeth II

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Fiji.svg/800px-Flag_of_Fiji.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Coat_of_arms_of_Fiji.png

...although the question of Pacific migration still lingers.
It is believed that the Lapita people or the ancestors of
the Polynesians settled the islands first but not much is known
of what became of them after the Melanesians arrived;
Fiji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Located in the central Pacific Ocean,
Fiji's geography has made it both a destination
and a crossroads for migrations for many centuries.

The Fiji Times reported on 3 July 2005
that recent research by the Fiji Museum
and the University of the South Pacific (USP)
has found that skeletons excavated at Bourewa,
near Natadola in Sigatoka, at least 3000 years old,
belonged to the first settlers of Fiji,
with their origins in South China or Taiwan.
History of Fiji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you DO REALISE that all these "disputes" over
history and archaeology ONLY ARISE when New FACTS
CONTRADICT the INSANE, ROMAN/EGYPT time-LInE,
and SUPPORT GOD'S WORD of what WAS, IS, and WILL BE.

vera susa
04-11-2009, 06:45 AM
EMIRATES MELBOURNE CUP
24 down to 23
CHANGINGOFTHEGUARD
SCRATCHED


Hayes seething over Changingoftheguard
Trainer David Hayes is believed to be seething
after his sole runner Changingoftheguard
was scratched.
[01:16] Sky News | 3 November 2009
http://player.video.news.com.au/theaustralian/#mXDZZt3iRDXEzL_wZLQRGzMBGHeagZkL

vera susa
04-11-2009, 07:12 AM
http://gaizkaallende.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dubai-map.png

World Breaking News

209 injured in Iran earthquake

From correspondents in Tehran

Agence France-Presse

November 04, 2009 04:44pm


A 4.9-SCALE earthquake struck
the southern Iranian port city
of Bandar Abbas early today,
injuring at least 209 people,
according to the official news agency Irna.

The quake struck at 2.56am (10.26am AEDT)
and also rocked the adjoining Qeshm highland.

"As of 6am today, we have 209 people wounded in the earthquake,"
said Farshid Abedi, the head of the main medical university in
Hormozgan province where Bandar Abbas is located.

vera susa
04-11-2009, 08:31 AM
World Breaking News

Chinese villagers
listed as dead
in welfare scam

From correspondents in Beijing

Reuters

November 04, 2009 03:12pm

HUNDREDS of Chinese villagers are protesting
after they were registered as dead
and struck from village lists.

The taxes villages pay to higher levels of government and
the social warfare payments allocated by the central Government
are both based on the number of households.

By recording the false deaths, local officials held back payments.

And the victims are also deprived of
newly established medical insurance
and pension schemes.

The 300 members of Zhouzhuang village -
a sixth of the population -
discovered they were "dead"
when a man tried to apply for a new identity book for his parents,
according to a report on China National Radio's website.

Most were struck from the rolls between 1996 and 1998.

In China, every person is entered in a household record at birth and the record is deleted after relatives report the death.

"There has been
no information on us
for nearly 10 years,"
one villager said.

Online commentators mocked
the village officials' contention
that they could not
re-enter the villagers on the rolls
and urged a public investigation.

Related Coverage

* The people's verdict
The Australian, 1 Oct 2009
* Taiwan confirms 292 typhoon deaths
NEWS.com.au, 25 Aug 2009
* Taiwan villagers feared buried alive
The Australian, 12 Aug 2009
* Landslide buries village, 600 feared dead
NEWS.com.au, 11 Aug 2009
* Landslide buries village, 600 feared dead
Courier Mail, 11 Aug 2009

"People need to show a lot of evidence to claim a person's death, so how come that was so easily accomplished?" read one comment on the Xinhua news article.

The China Youth Daily said
the problem was not unique to Henan,
a poor province known for its lawlessness.

It had also cropped up in Jilin in the north-east
and Guangxi in the south-west.

vera susa
04-11-2009, 02:03 PM
App to find nearest toilet?
Data flood unleashed
ASHER MOSES
November 4, 2009 - 2:07PM
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/app-to-find-nearest-toilet-data-flood-unleashed-20091104-hwqj.html

A screengrab from the NSW Crime Explorer app comparing rates of theft (break and enter) across the state.
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/04/835605/crimeappmain-420x0.jpg
A screengrab from the NSW Crime Explorer app comparing rates of theft (break and enter) across the state.

Geeks across the country are having a field day creating apps as state and federal governments release swathes of data that was previously inaccessible to the public.

Proponents of the open-government plan claim the apps could spark scandals as big as Utegate, in which a Treasury official forged an email that falsely alleged the Prime Minister and Treasurer acted improperly on behalf of a car dealer.

Next Saturday, entries close for the Federal Government's MashUp Australia competition, which tasked developers with making public-sector information more accessible and usable through new web applications and mashups.

Several of the apps to come out of the initiative have already been unveiled in beta form. The apps can be accessed from both computers and mobile phones.

They include an app for directories showing public services closest to the user's address, an app to compare the rates of various crimes in locations across NSW, a broadband locator to help people decide on an ISP and even an app to find the nearest public barbecue.

To help spark interest in the competition, the Government 2.0 Taskforce brought an army of 150 geeks together in Canberra over the weekend for a coding marathon called Govhack.

Participants formed teams to develop and demonstrate their applications and, at the end of the event, a panel decided that the best mashup was LobbyClue, which combines data from the lobbyist register, contract notices, business names and other information to produce visual representations of relationships between government organisations and businesses.

"I think all of the government people in the room shivered," GovHack organiser John Allsopp said.

Other notable apps created on the weekend include It's Buggered Mate (reporting damaged public facilities directly to the relevant council), Know Where You Live (providing statistics on Sydney suburbs based on their postcodes) and Rate a Loo (identifying public toilets in the user's immediate area).

Separately, earlier this year a developer released an iPhone app, FoodWatch NSW, which tells users if a nearby restaurant has been fined for breach of food safety standards. The app uses data from the NSW Food Authority's website.

"If it's stuck in a room somewhere in Canberra, how valuable is that data? And even if it was just a whole lot of Excel spreadsheets on the web, how many people are capable of taking that information and making sense of it?" Allsopp said.

"I think we'll see a major story like Utegate come from things that have been enabled by this increasingly available data and tools that are built on top of it.

"Once you open this stuff up, you can't put the genie back in the bottle."

Even the NSW Government, which as recently as March was attempting to shut down mobile train timetable apps using copyright law, is going app-crazy.

It has given the public access to a plethora of government agency data sets and is encouraging anyone to transform them into apps.

NSW Labor MLC Penny Sharpe is driving the NSW initiative with Commerce Minister Jodi McKay.

Sharpe said rules for the NSW Government's own app competition, apps4nsw, would be announced shortly.

She said about 15 sets of data had been made available so far and this was set to expand over time.

"People will use it in ways that we haven't even contemplated yet - and that's a good thing," she said.

What sort of app would you like to see? Comment below.

faraday
04-11-2009, 02:55 PM
Just the basic reminder that NOTHING of man
has EVER come close to SAVING man, let alone
the planet. From the wheel to antibiotics, they have ALL
ended up biting us on the bum and continue to gnaw away
at what's left of us...yet STILL, IDIOT KIDS take their
TAVISTOCK (COMIC BOOK), fuelled fantasies into adulthood
to inflict yet more problems on the world...like the NET and
Conspiracy Sites that send everyone back to the dark days
of FEARING ROME and VATICAN DOCTRINE.

Seriously, LOOK INTO IT...SLAG OFF ANY and EVERY Nation,
peoples and beliefs...JUST DON'T DARE TOUCH that INSANE
LIE that God "Lost" most of the world He Created AT THE BEGINNING,
when HE SAID, "FROM THE BEGINNING; ALL THE WORLD".

That's all you can see in that article? :confused:

Maybe if I claim someone is out to kill me, or I have computers full of child pornography, or that the Roman Catholic Church is going to kill everyone, or maybe do like Cori and say everything is connected to cocks, the auto-bots will increase the view count, or the relevent authorities will mark this thread and pay more attention.

Anyhow, thanks for all the lessons on 'code-talking' Tintin and Vice-Versa,sorry I mean VeraSusa (and all the others).
How else would I have been able to find out what you and your 'friends' were doing here.

As Tintin likes to say:
"The podium is all yours"

vera susa
05-11-2009, 05:17 PM
So, I googled david icke and aarnout, and get:

http://whynotnews.eu/images/theywantyoudead.jpg
http://need2know.whynotnews.eu/?p=1050

and this:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rmdt3uR8GRw_2M:http://www.ad.nl/multimedia/archive/00029/alcohol_comazuipen_29744a.jpg
on this page:
http://achtergeslotendeuren.punt.nl/index.php?r=1&id=265264&tbl_archief=0

which re-directs you to:
http://www.ad.nl/


This and more on this day:


An Italian court convicts 22 known or suspected CIA agents over the kidnap of Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, delivering the first convictions against people involved in the U.S. extraordinary rendition program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_rapito_affair#Convictions

jmmk
05-11-2009, 07:30 PM
BIBLE spelled backwards is El Bib. Put on your bib so we can force feed you
religion at a very young age so you can't object or question it !!

vera susa
06-11-2009, 12:47 AM
BIBLE spelled backwards is El Bib. Put on your bib so we can force feed you
religion at a very young age so you can't object or question it !!

IDIOTS who keep spouting this childish NON-sense,
should be on disability pensions, as they obviously
can't think their way out of a paper bag.

Your avatar IS CATHOLIC COMMISSIONED/'Inspired' "ART",
DESIGNED TO DECEIVE!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=15568&dateline=1216180968

It's "THE ARTS", that FORCE FEED THE WORLD,
24/7, the FALSE/CATHOLIC=UNIVERSAL=One World view,
even THOUSANDS of Years BEFORE these last few
"T.V Generations" of PROUDLY SELF CONFESSED ANTI-CHRISTS.

I used to SHOW how it was done on another thread
UNTIL THE CATHOLIC WHORES made it ANOTHER CATHOLIC LIE.

But then, the NET is NOW THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR
MEDIUM of "THE ARTS"... anyone try and get access to
an important new paper on sciences lately...LOCKED UP Tight!

NO "NET LEAKS" of SCIENCE NEWS like there CONSTANTLY IS
about the DARK ARTS of HOODWINKING THE WORLD!

No, we even have a MINISTRY of SCIENCE that BOASTS
NO PUBLICATION OF SCIENCE PAPERS, UNLESS and until
the POLITICIANS APPROVE IT and that can be YEARS!

Simply The NET WAS DESIGNED to FORCE FEED the world
THE RELIGION OF BEAST WORSHIP, with The BILLIONS
of The LEGION MAINTAINING the VEILS that "soften"
IT'S TRULY BEASTLY, MOST UGLY 'IMAGE'.

And PLEASE don't watse your time trying to argue that FACT away.
Simply do a count of the MOST Supported and MOST ATTACKED,
'life' "STYLE" 'options'.

Oh, and the MOST ATTACKED...
DARING to Study what GOD'S DESCRIBED
WITHOUT the POISONOUS TAINT of
The FAKE "Jewish" WAY TOO SHORT time-line
and CATHOLIC MYTHS FORCE FED THROUGH
The CATHOLIC COMMISSIONED "ARTS",
LONG BEFORE ANY PUBLISHED "bible".

And what's so TELLING about that IS that
'nominal Christians', 'Jews' and
self confessed ATHEISTS/ANTI-CHRISTS
ALL become "Brothers In ARMS" and
ATTACK it with The Same VIOLENT PASSION.

ALL BUT The Very Elect ARE DECEIVED.

vera susa
06-11-2009, 01:53 AM
O.K. so you must have noticed by now,
that there IS an "ODD" reasoning behind
what MURDOCH'S NEWS lists as,
"RELATED COVERAGE", that so often is
a weird mix of UNrelated stories, On The Surface,
yet NOTICE the list with this FIRST story...
ALL the SAME Thing, and the Following one,
ON THE SAME NEWS DAY, NOT on 'the list'...

Twelve dead in shooting at
Fort Hood military base

By staff writers and wires

news.com.au

November 06, 2009 10:38am


Special forces soldiers, Fort Hood
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144378,00.jpg
Special forces soldiers with the
US Army's 4th Infantry Division
train at Fort Hood in this 2003 file picture / AFP



* video
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26312336-401,00.html
Military base shooting
President Obama holds press conference
on Fort Hood military base shooting. 11/09 Fox News

Fort Hood, Texas
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144452,00.jpg
Fort Hood is the largest US military base in the world / Google

* Twelve dead in shooting at Fort Hood
* Two gunmen caught, another among dead
* Largest US military base in the world
* Watch live: Fox at the scene

GUNMEN have killed 11 people and wounded at least 31 in a rampage at Fort Hood military base in Texas.

The primary gunman, a soldier armed with two handguns, was shot dead in the aftermath of the attack, taking the overall death toll to 12.

He has been named as Army Major Malik Nadal Hasan. The Associated Press said a defence official had said he was a mental health professional - an Army psychologist or psychiatrist.

Army investigators have identified two other suspects, also soldiers, according to Fort Hood commanding general Bob Cone.

"It's a terrible tragedy, it’s stunning," he said.

The Fort Hood base remains in lockdown and the FBI is running background checks on the suspected gunmen.

The bloodbath unfolded at the Soldier Readiness Centre, where troops undergo final medical checks prior to their deployment, Lieutenant Cone said.

Related Coverage

* Watch live: Fox at the scene
* Maniac army murderer named
Adelaide Now, 6 Nov 2009
* Shooting soldier named - Hassan Malik
NEWS.com.au, 6 Nov 2009
* 12 dead in army base gun rampage
Daily Telegraph, 6 Nov 2009
* Soldier kills 12 in massacre at Texas base
The Australian, 6 Nov 2009
* Army base gun massacre
Courier Mail, 6 Nov 2009

He said there was no clear motive and that one civilian police officer was among the dead.

Graduation

US media reports said the shooting happened about 30 minutes before a scheduled graduation hearing.

Local congressman John Carter told MSNBC television: "I had a man on the scene, who is my regional director and former chaplin at Fort Hood, waiting to go to a graduation ceremony when a soldier came running up to him saying, 'Sir, don't go over there. They are - somebody is shooting over there','' Mr Carter said.

"When the soldier ran by him, he saw the soldier didn't know it, but he was wounded.

"So, he went into the building and they stopped him, because he had been shot.

"He heard small arms and some rifle fire while he was there and that he thought they had one person that they had caught but there may be more, he didn't know.

"He understood there was more than one, that was all he said.''

Fort Hood is the largest US military base in the world and had been working to rehabilitate many soldiers suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome, he said.

Army personnel told a Fox news affiliate they were not sure if the victims were civilians or military personnel.

A message on Fort Hood's website - the headquarters of the Army 3rd Corps, the 4th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry Division - said it was closed, but gave no further details. All those units have seen extensive duty in Iraq.

"Effective immediately. Fort Hood is closed. Organisations/units are instructed to execute a 100 per cent accountability of all personnel. This is not a drill. It is an emergency situation," the website said.

Schools in the area were also on lockdown, MSNBC said.

President Barack Obama said the shooting was "a horrific outburst of violence".

"My immediate prayers are with the families of the fallen."

US coverage: Fox News

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So, WHY is this "NOT" RELATED....

Join Muslim Asia or perish,
says Taliban
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144348,00.jpg
Join Muslim Asia or perish,
says Taliban

THE Taliban warns Australia
must cede into Asia
or face the prospect of
being overpowered.

* ABC role: Not 'PM propaganda
'PM propaganda' not ABC role: Nick Minchin

* Matthew Franklin, Chief political correspondent
* From: The Australian
* November 06, 2009 12:00AM
* 23 comments


THE ABC has been warned it risks being
seen to be "in cahoots" with the Rudd government
under a plan to expand overseas
as an exercise in "soft diplomacy".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/pm-propaganda-not-abc-role-nick-minchin/story-e6frgczf-1225794871714



National News

Australia must join Muslim Asia
or perish - Taliban

By Abraham Rabinovich

The Australian

November 06, 2009 07:13am

Taliban
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144349,00.jpg
Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud (left) with his commander Wali-ur Rehman (right) / AFP

* Australia must "assimilate" or get out
* Taliban: Country faces waves of Asians
* Breaking news: What's happening now

AN official Taliban publication warns Australia that it will have to assimilate into a dominant Asia or face the prospect of being overpowered and forced to take population overspill from Asia.

The choice is spelled out in the latest issue of the online Taliban monthly magazine, Al Sumud (Steadfastness), whose lead article offers a sweeping view of a post-war order in which a Taliban-ruled Afghanistan becomes a moral pivot for a pan-Asian renaissance that will coincide with the decline of Western power.

"The end of European leadership in the world will place the white settler diaspora in Australia before two choices," writes the author, Mustafa Hamid, a former senior al-Qaeda member who in 2001 married Australian Rabiah Hutchinson, a Sydney mother with links to Islamic extremists.

"It can either return to its motherland in Europe or reconcile with its Asian surroundings and assimilate into it as a wealthy and active member."

Related Coverage

* ABC role: Not 'PM propaganda'
* Taliban thriving in a vacuum
The Australian, 26 Sep 2009
* Edict may boost threat level as Defence,
AFP examine al-Qa'ida kidnap warning
The Australian, 18 Sep 2009
* Taliban split over poll threat
The Australian, 19 Aug 2009
* 53 dead as troops battle guerillas
NEWS.com.au, 13 Aug 2009
* The war on Australia
The Australian, 22 Jul 2009


Otherwise, he warns, a lengthy conflict will ensue in which Australia will be overpowered "by Asian waves that are better armed and more numerous".

"There is no doubt that the huge growth in the population of Asia, together with its economic and military development, will make Australia into lebensraum - to use the European term," writes Mr Hamid. Lebensraum, meaning living space, was a term used by Nazi Germany as a motivation for territorial conquest.

Asia, Mr Hamid writes, is facing a population explosion "while Australia is nearly empty of people, apart from scattered groups of white residents".

Residents of "the Israeli outpost" at the other end of Asia are likewise warned to return to their countries of origin or face an "unequal conflict".

These warnings, however, are marginal to the central vision offered in the article - the emergence of a vibrant pan-Asian identity in which Islam, and the Taliban in particular, constitutes a powerful moral and cultural force but not an exclusive one. Its emphasis on pan-Asian political identity rather than pan-Islamic sets it apart from al-Qaeda ideology.

The Taliban article does not call for jihad,
although it hints at the possibility of
"peaceful Islamic expansion"
and the linchpin role in
the "Asian Age",
as the author terms it,
is ceded to non-Islamic China.

To read more on this story, visit The Australian
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26312324-421,00.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now another thing that bothers me is just how many
people ARE PUSHING FOR the DUTCH TAKEOVER
of AUSTRALIA, because they see them as the ones
who will "GET RID OF THOSE MUSLIMS".

But it was DUTCH LED Politics that brought the
Middle Eastern Crime Gangs here and then
MADE THEM "UNTOUCHABLE" for Over 20 Years,
and the DUTCH who PUBLISHED 'those cartoons'
that KICKED OF BLOODY HATRED Around The World.

It's ALWAYS BEEN THEIR PLOT TO DO TO US
what THEY DID TO SOUTH AFRICA...make US
SLAVES in "Their Kingdom".

The "republican push" has ALWAYS BEEN from
the "secular" (my arse!) LOYAL (TO ROME, look it up,
THEY ANNOUNCE THEY ARE Pro-Protestant,
and NOT ANTI-CATHOLIC!), ORANGE/DUTCH Order

Actually, they've changed the wording since I
was last there, BUT MAKE A STRONGER PUSH
for ALL THE WORLD to ACCEPT The CATHOLIC
TRINITARIAN, SUNDAY Worshipping DOCTRINES
and DOGMAS ABOVE GOD'S WORD!

Note the PURPLE UNDERSCORE!

http://www.orangenet.org/onet6.jpg
http://www.orangenet.org/background.htm

And look at this page

the FIRST with this image on offer,
WAY DOWN the page PAST some
VERY SICK THREATENING IMAGES;
de Groot ‘opens’ Harbour Bridge
http://i36.tinypic.com/azib9t.jpg
http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/06/

tintin
06-11-2009, 02:09 AM
so, i googled david icke and aarnout, and get:

http://whynotnews.eu/images/theywantyoudead.jpg
http://need2know.whynotnews.eu/?p=1050

and this:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rmdt3ur8grw_2m:http://www.ad.nl/multimedia/archive/00029/alcohol_comazuipen_29744a.jpg
on this page:
http://achtergeslotendeuren.punt.nl/index.php?r=1&id=265264&tbl_archief=0

which re-directs you to:
http://www.ad.nl/


this and more on this day:


an italian court convicts 22 known or suspected cia agents over the kidnap of hassan mustafa osama nasr, delivering the first convictions against people involved in the u.s. Extraordinary rendition program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/imam_rapito_affair#convictions



Are you F****G serious??
Are you contuning betraying?

Judas? (VERA SUSA)
THERE IS NO END
TO YOUR BETRAYAL NO?

vera susa
06-11-2009, 04:40 AM
Here you go, maybe this is
A HINT TO ME, TO SUE those who
CALL FOR MORE VIOLENCE TO BE COMMITTED AGAINST ME,
along with the rest of their VILE: 1 a : morally despicable
or abhorrent <nothing is so vile as intellectual dishonesty>
LIABLE'S against me, seeing as I AM The ONLY one in
This 'WAR' who IS KNOWN to be the REAL PERSON they
present themselves to be...and, I DO KNOW just the people
to ALSO SUCCESSFULLY PROVE, In The Courts,
THE COLLUSION between those who ASSAULTED ME
and The Person HERE WHO FUNDED THEM.



National News

Dad fined $80,000
for rant about school

AAP

November 06, 2009 10:49am

A SYDNEY father who defamed a school principal
in an email attacking her competency
has been ordered to pay her $82,543 in damages.

(what 'damages', only a year of bitching, so
what's nearly 5 years and an ATTEMPTED MURDER worth?
MORE than enough to make it worth the while of
'those people' who make a living from MAKING The UNjust PAY.)

NSW Supreme Court Justice Henric Nicholas
today handed down his verdict in favour of Jennie Ryan,
the 61-year-old principal of Beecroft Public School,
in Sydney's north-west.

She had sued Rajaratnam Premachandran for defamation over an email he sent to fellow parents in April 2008.

The email, which he also copied to the principal, was entitled "Call for Mrs Ryan to quit" and alleged she was not fit to remain as principal.

Mrs Ryan's lawyer, Sue Chrysanthou, had submitted Mr Premachandran then ran a year-long malicious "campaign" against the well-respected and "decorated" principal.(uummm, and the WORLD
RECORDS in breeding I hold, WERE BUILT ON the Same Faith I Practice
and discuss here! Do The Right Thing For The Right Reason, EVEN WHEN
it COSTS YOU, NOT for personal gain or glory!)

"He just spewed out his rage on the page," she said.

"He was very angry and upset how his child was going at the school."

Justice Nicholas will hear submissions on legal costs on another day.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now as a rule, I like to avoid 'The Law' as much as I do
'Medical Professionals', but this does sound like a VERY TIMELY
case to tie in with New GLOBAL TIGHTENING of Internet use AND
"Other" CONTROLS being Globally Imposed on "Select Groups".

AND, me being so Anti-Trinitarian could help PROVE
that the decision in this case was NOT CULTURALLY BIAS,
to silence those critics...unless it was intended to get them
going ape-shit again:rolleyes:

Or could it even be that the PANDORA'S BOX of case,
my complaint WOULD OPEN, IS WHY that mysterious,
"Guardian Angel" has kept me alive so long?

There's a generous 'Heads Up' for ya 'mate'; maybe 'YOU'
would like to SETTLE THE ACCOUNT NOW and NOT open
'That Box' :D ;)

Either way, I feel I should do some digging, as it would be
nice to clear the debts those criminals left me with, before
the next pain filled infection from my still damaged head
that travels across my eyes, does kill me...so bad the last
few days that I couldn't even find the words to answer the
one person who sensed that I was not O.K.

vera susa
06-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Are you F****G serious??
Are you contuning betraying?

Judas? (VERA SUSA)
THERE IS NO END
TO YOUR BETRAYAL NO?


ARE YOU SURE YOU HAVEN'T BLOWN A FUSE?

This is the PUBLIC Post that INSPIRED that particular search:


I remember you as well questioning my motives or whatever.
If you dont like it then PISS OFF.
Am a bit tired of folks bumping in and have all kinds
of theories about me.

Tin-Tin--

I NEVER questioned YOUR motives, I questioned what was actually going on when one decides to post to this forum, that's all.

Unless someone is fawning all over you for some post you did, I see that you get real defensive -again another sign of an alcoholic. But I'm not calling you one. Remember, you are the one that said that you drink all the time. So this is not a theory, this is what you are saying about yourself.

Maybe you should take a look inside YOUR SELF Tin-Tin.

And once again, posting 'links' doesn't make you a GENIUS--a lot of it is common sense but a lot of it is hermenuetics (look it up) as people will believe even a lie, if they want to.

For example: Here's what wiki says about another Tin-Tin: Rin Tin-Tin:

The dog's big break came when he stepped in for a recalcitrant wolf in The Man From Hell's River (1922). Rin Tin Tin would be cast as a wolf or wolf-hybrid many times in his career, though not looking like one.

In other words, are you in a disguise?

Now we know that 'You just do what you do' because this is what you said in your last post. But as you can see from the aforementioned example that this hemenuetics-linking-posting can even turn on you if you
aarn-out careful!

Peace

3:33, 353, 151'13's



I'm so sure of who the VIOLENT TRAITOR is, that
I am considering making a test case over it.

See, I've shared NOTHING PUBLICLY that you told me
that isn't already on line for anyone interested to access.

Keep in mind also, that I have often stated that I post
what IS ALREADY PUBLIC, OR, being carelessly talked
about by numbers of others, as FURTHER WARNINGS that
if I know it, then it's already NOT secret, but COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

Now is it my fault that the PRIVATE conversations I have
include some 'other names' that PRETEND to be my friends,
while searching for more ways to harm me and mine...that IS what
you've mostly been crying about lately, PRIVATE EMAILS with
'names' FROM THIS SITE.

In fact, I've also WARNED YOU NOT to assume what I post
is about you, just because the shoe fits, but still in the rage
of guilt and/or drunkenness, you keep doing it, and further
OUT YOURSELF!

There is ONLY ONE ME, on ONE OLD p.c., with ONE NAME,
that even when driven to use new sites where I can't use
my old name, it has to be other names FOR MY REAL NAME,
at this REAL ADDRESS where any DOG can find me.

See, I am NOT here to play spy games, but simply as I
have made very clear, to WITNESS and WARN, in Truth,
FOR the Edification of ALL suffering under The GREAT DECEPTION
of the FALSE time-lines SOLD BY the 'out of Egypt' LIE that
IS DEATH WORSHIP.

No sir, I am NOT The Traitor here, which you could say I was
IF I didn't OUT MYSELF so people could SEE FOR THEMSELVES
both the worldly cost and BLESSINGS that come with PUBLIC
Proclamation of Conviction in The Truth of GOD'S WORD and
ALL HIS PROMISES, or if I had not made it clear that I will WARN,
PRIVATELY, what cloudtiger calls being cryptic, those REAL People
in my day to day REAL World life, that they are being STUPIDLY
DANGEROUS.

Mind you, a TRAITOR IS someone who proclaims a belief in GOD,
then BANS ANY FURTHER REFERENCE TO HIM on a thread they
ADMIT to EDITING and 'moderating'...the SAME thread with MY
KEY POINTS supporting that belief, DELETED OUT, ALL OVER THE PLACE!

Well, at least this ATTACK of yours, IS RIGHT ON TOPIC
of the title of this thread...don't worry, I wouldn't DARE
DEMAND THE SAME TOTAL CONTROL of "my" thread that
YOU SO BOLDLY DEMAND HAVING and GETTING of "YOUR"
thread...that I SUGGESTED and TITLED as a CONTINUATION
of MY ORIGINAL on The Unhived Mind...speaking of which,
any here manage to OUT the ELUSIVE "CRAIG OXLEY" yet?

"Who" did NOT ban CRUISE/tintin like he did me, but then
when I came here, CRUISE/tintin FOLLOWED...curious...
and TWISTED MY TOPIC into BLEAK, UGLY, THREATENING,
PRO-CATHOLIC DOCTRINE TOUTING PROPAGANDA.

Britannia Radio
De Standaard reports that hedge fund manager Aarnout Snouck Hurgonje of Axa Investment ...... David Icke - July 12th 2009 - Don't Take The Flu Vaccine! ...
britanniaradio.blogspot.com/.../open-europe-europe-ecj-rules-that.html

ExoMatrix Media, Need2Know.WhyNotNews.eu
2-7 David Icke on ExoMatrixTV September 2009 Amsterdam Video: ...... Loudon, Aarnout A. voorzitter Raad van Commiss. Akzo Nobel - 1984 ...
need2know.whynotnews.eu/?p=1050

Isn't it "FUNNY" how BEASTLY GLOBAL ENTITIES
CRY "They" NEED TO ATTACK any LONE VOICE
that disagrees with their "ACCEPTED", HYPNOTIC Mantras.;)

vera susa
06-11-2009, 09:44 AM
O.K. now here's a DEFINITIVE TEST for you all:

GOOGLE ANY combination of;

egypt america david icke tintin vera susa


and SEE what you do and DON'T GET offered.

So what 6.2+ million hits on those word combinations
and Google can only come up with MISS-directions.

WHY NOT ANY OF THIS STUFF:

REMEMBER, 'THEY' HAD AND EMPLOYED
THE SCIENCE AND GOOD MEN
TO 'PREDICT' THE CHINA EARTHQUAKE;
TO THE DAY...2 YEARS BEFORE!!!!!

http://standeyo.com/Reports/06_EQ.warning/West.Coast/ring.of.fire.gif

http://new-madrid.mo.us/images/pages/N102/Earthquake%20Map%202.JPG
New Madrid Fault
1811-1812 Earthquakes
1811, December 16, 08:15 UTC.
Northeast Arkansas
Magnitude ~7.2 - 8.1

Slab breakoff,
Turkey
Domal uplift and
volcanism
in a collision zone
without a mantle plume:
Evidence from
Eastern Anatolia
http://www.mantleplumes.org/Anatolia.html

BUT OZ IS A DRY, UNLIVABLE, DEADLY DANGEROUS...

HOW ABOUT, THE LAND GOD DESCRIBED
THAT HE
SET APART,
HEDGED ABOUT,
REED SEA TO THE EAST
SALT (PULVERIZING/SHIPWRECK),
SEA TO THE SOUTH,
GREAT SEA TO THE WEST
PRESERVED,
RICH IN ALL THINGS,
GEOLOGICALLY/GRAPHICALLY
STABLE,
WITH TERRAIN & CLIMATE
SPACE & WORK A PLENTY
TO
BRING TO PEACE THE ANCIENT
HOMESICK LONGING
OF
ALL THE TRIBES...

http://www.allcountries.org/maps/earthquake_map_1.jpg

Paris under fire
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6419523,00.jpg
Paris under fire

Paris Hilton criticised
for lavish shopping spree
in Australia
Paris Hilton spends
$140 a minute in Chapel Street,
Melbourne, shopping spree
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,24853866-5013560,00.html

Gallery Paris Down Under
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/gallery/0,23607,5024806-5010141-1,00.html


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/maps/map_images/mainmap.gif
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=9081&dateline=1211436686

http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcanoes/region01/01_map.png
Volcanoes of the
Mediterranean and western Asia
Find a Volcano by Region
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-j.gQbWo_bqvqldqxn0tjgCxiZmK3AQ--?cq=1&tag=volcanic
http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/maps/world.png


And here it is, that "Fighting Over 'Holy Land' ",
BULLSHIT
that happenens when people in "CULTURED",
"EDUCATED", "COSMOPOLITAN" Cities,
start to feel vulnerable, and cast their eye about
for a better, safer land to migrate to...

The Middle East IS a BATTLE GROUND
(and Fore-Shadow/Reminder/Sign),
on Land FORSAKEN For The Purpose,
NOT Holy Land!

But then we have OZ,
snug on IT'S OWN, STABLE PLATE...

SEE the Islands that Israel Followed
The Formation Of
(Pillars of Smoke and Fire),
Across The Reed (shallow) Sea
From SOUTH AMERICA,
when the SUPER-CONTINENT Was
SEPARATING...

AS DESCRIBED IN OLD TESTAMENT HEBREW,
and SCIENCE AGREES WITH...

SEE the Channel/RIVER GOING STRAIGHT DOWN
(JORDAN), between OZ & NZ...

empties out around where
MUTTON BIRDS are
THERE FOR THE PICKING UP,
something desiredafter a diet of,
"MANNA" 'from 'heaven'
(our atmosphere/First of 3 heavens),
"SPIRALEENA",
(fine, dry, krill, plankton, seaweeds etc.
High Protine Food of Whales),
kicked up and littly roasted on the HOT WINDS
of ALL THAT HEAVY VOLCANIC ACTIVITY...

http://www.allcountries.org/maps/earthquake_map_1.jpg

vera susa
06-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Well I'm still having trouble getting "THE NET" to FIND
the specific posts and articles that challenge the EGYPT LIE,
but here's a fairly clear and simple introductory reply to
an often ask questions by those new to what I show:

Q? How did the Truth in the Bible survive
the censors of the Dark Side?

All LAWS originate from the ORIGINAL BEING,
like the ANCIENT LAWS of PHYSICS
during the earth's age with plant life but NO OXYGEN,
the OLD LAWS of BIOLOGY
without INFECTION KILLING ANTI-BODIES
(that caused God to give Israel HYGIENE LAWS
so that they OUT-POPULATED The Nations
AS HE PROMISED),
those were 'the laws' "DONE AWAY WITH"
when He POURED OUT a NEW LAW;
DIRECT ACCESS to HIS FOUNDATIONAL LAW,
THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH and JUST LIFE...
to all who HUNGER and THIRST for it
ABOVE all else in this DEATH CONTAMINATED
world, of this AGE/GENERATION.

So anyway, those LAWS DEMAND the REVELATIONS
of the 'things hidden' as HE ALSO PROMISED,
just as LAWS DEMAND, lit match, to gas, BOOM!

Remember, as
HE CAN'T LIE or CONTRADICT HIMSELF
but as the world "seems" full of contradictions,
those WITHOUT EYES or EARS
could NOT SEE/HEAR
ALL the lines upon lines,
here a little there a little,
precept upon precept,
command upon command,
that DO MAKE IT POSSIBLE
IN THIS GLOBE TROTTING,
INFORMATION AGE
to SEE HOW
"HOLY SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS HOLY SCRIPTURE"
when YOU also remember
HE TOLD US TO STUDY
WHAT IS IN THE WHOLE WORLD,
i.e. DO GOOD SCIENCE
and then SEE that HE DID INDEED
TELL US, ALL, FROM THE BEGINNING.

So they do things like
CHANGE the AMERICAS to Egypt,
but don't "SEE" to change HIS
DESCRIPTIONS of what GOOD SCIENCE
came to 'discover', like the OXYGEN-LESS AGE
and the SUPER-CONTINENT AGE
(that fills so much of the Old Testament),
that makes THE LIE of 'out of Egypt'
and ALL IT'S ASSOCIATED MYTHS,
IMPOSSIBLE to FIT into HIS LIVING WORD that
DOES DESCRIBE, what WAS, IS and
WILL COME TO BE.

3 Heavens/atmospheres; our air, cold dark,
First war Scared Space, HIS KINGDOM Beyond.

Adam from the dust; all CARBON based.
Adams missing 'rib'; XY, EVE, XX.

2 by 2 PLUS the 7 of 'domestic' animals
and so their greater genetic variation.

MANNA from heaven; the food of
Baleen Whales, dried on the REED,
(SHALLOW) Sea (NOT 'Red') and blown
up and down.

"Quails"; MUTTON BIRDS, ONLY IN OZ,
these FOOD BIRDS you can still walk up
and freely gather.

And so on and on throughout His Living Word,
you can see where they DECEIVED themselves
into believing they 'could' HIDE THE TRUTH
of WHAT IS in FLOODS of
infoTAINMENT and artNEWS, that backfired
and made the Faithfully Seeking go, "HANG ON..
WHAT IS ALL THIS BULLSHIT FOR...?...!"

Again, as HE also said, SIMPLE, or else all withheld from 'good education' would be 'withheld' from HIS CALLING, whereas even bad TV can SHOW Rome CONTRADICTS ITSELF and GOD, but SCIENCE does NOT contradict GOD, and so inspire folk to look for other OBVIOUS LIES...
but it's NOT simple for the proud
who can't stand admitting
they fell for such obvious bullshit.

vera susa
06-11-2009, 01:51 PM
Well I'm still having trouble getting "THE NET" to FIND
the specific posts and articles that challenge the EGYPT LIE,
but here's a fairly clear and simple introductory reply to
an often ask questions by those new to what I show:

Q? How did the Truth in the Bible survive
the censors of the Dark Side?

All LAWS originate from the ORIGINAL BEING,
like the ANCIENT LAWS of PHYSICS
during the earth's age with plant life but NO OXYGEN,
the OLD LAWS of BIOLOGY
without INFECTION KILLING ANTI-BODIES
(that caused God to give Israel HYGIENE LAWS
so that they OUT-POPULATED The Nations
AS HE PROMISED),
those were 'the laws' "DONE AWAY WITH"
when He POURED OUT a NEW LAW;
DIRECT ACCESS to HIS FOUNDATIONAL LAW,
THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH and JUST LIFE...
to all who HUNGER and THIRST for it
ABOVE all else in this DEATH CONTAMINATED
world, of this AGE/GENERATION.

So anyway, those LAWS DEMAND the REVELATIONS
of the 'things hidden' as HE ALSO PROMISED,
just as LAWS DEMAND, lit match, to gas, BOOM!

Remember, as
HE CAN'T LIE or CONTRADICT HIMSELF
but as the world "seems" full of contradictions,
those WITHOUT EYES or EARS
could NOT SEE/HEAR
ALL the lines upon lines,
here a little there a little,
precept upon precept,
command upon command,
that DO MAKE IT POSSIBLE
IN THIS GLOBE TROTTING,
INFORMATION AGE
to SEE HOW
"HOLY SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS HOLY SCRIPTURE"
when YOU also remember
HE TOLD US TO STUDY
WHAT IS IN THE WHOLE WORLD,
i.e. DO GOOD SCIENCE
and then SEE that HE DID INDEED
TELL US, ALL, FROM THE BEGINNING.

So they do things like
CHANGE the AMERICAS to Egypt,
but don't "SEE" to change HIS
DESCRIPTIONS of what GOOD SCIENCE
came to 'discover', like the OXYGEN-LESS AGE
and the SUPER-CONTINENT AGE
(that fills so much of the Old Testament),
that makes THE LIE of 'out of Egypt'
and ALL IT'S ASSOCIATED MYTHS,
IMPOSSIBLE to FIT into HIS LIVING WORD that
DOES DESCRIBE, what WAS, IS and
WILL COME TO BE.

3 Heavens/atmospheres; our air, cold dark,
First war Scared Space, HIS KINGDOM Beyond.

Adam from the dust; all CARBON based.
Adams missing 'rib'; XY, EVE, XX.

2 by 2 PLUS the 7 of 'domestic' animals
and so their greater genetic variation.

MANNA from heaven; the food of
Baleen Whales, dried on the REED,
(SHALLOW) Sea (NOT 'Red') and blown
up and down.

"Quails"; MUTTON BIRDS, ONLY IN OZ,
these FOOD BIRDS you can still walk up
and freely gather.

And so on and on throughout His Living Word,
you can see where they DECEIVED themselves
into believing they 'could' HIDE THE TRUTH
of WHAT IS in FLOODS of
infoTAINMENT and artNEWS, that backfired
and made the Faithfully Seeking go, "HANG ON..
WHAT IS ALL THIS BULLSHIT FOR...?...!"

Again, as HE also said, SIMPLE, or else all withheld from 'good education' would be 'withheld' from HIS CALLING, whereas even bad TV can SHOW Rome CONTRADICTS ITSELF and GOD, but SCIENCE does NOT contradict GOD, and so inspire folk to look for other OBVIOUS LIES...
but it's NOT simple for the proud
who can't stand admitting
they fell for such obvious bullshit.

vera susa
06-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Wow, even when I get close, like an edited/partial quote,
when I click to go to the the original post, NO WAY!!!
LOOP DE LOOP DE LOOP WE GO, never getting anywhere...

so back to the slow old manually clicking and scrolling
through each page...

but at least I've collected a bit of a conversation IN CONTEXT;)



Quote:
Originally Posted by runciter

tree of life (kabbalah)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

... DOES NOT have roots and leaves...

that's a mantra of the DEATH (nature) Worshippers.

ALL Trees of wood & leaves are ALREADY DYING,
as is the soil, water, SUN...

NONE of that 'natural SHIT', can 'save' SHIT...or SUGAR...

And KNOWING YOU ARE NOT THE CREATOR GOD,
you're among the world's biggest DICK HEADS to
PROMOTE/ENCOURAGE that LYING "kabbalah" BULLSHIT!

NOT saying you (runciter) are...directly...but,
'sideways', makes me even more "SUSS"...


BTW...DON'T take personal offence at my Topic ...
simply accept that I have REAL WORLD PEOPLE,
who 'speak' (BITTERLY SPIT VENOM), to and about me
through this thread ... AND, The Real World,
who HAVE, CROSSED 'A' LINE .......and..................

.... now, what was it I wanted to explain about WHY,
'those fires', WERE TARGETED WHERE THEY WERE....?!
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by runciter
if a global catastrophe is the only way out, then no one should be spared.

quick and painless, a complete disintegration, and we'll meet in the afterlife.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WTF!

YOU ARE ADVOCATING THAT "NO FLESH BE LEFT ALIVE"?

THAT IS THE (ALREADY FAILED) PLAN OF THE BEAST!

BUT THE SAME CREATOR GOD THE BEAST IS FIGHTING,
WILL RETURN BEFORE "THEY" (YOU?) CAN PULL IT OFF,
and boy oh boy will that be THE WRONG TIME TO BE SO
FOOLISH in your (UN)thinking!

don't you believe in life after death?

With me it isn't a matter of "belief", I KNOW
that under these current laws of physics, that
EVERYONE & THING is DEAD or DYING.

The earth itself IS DYING.

BUT, there WILL BE A NEW system of physics
(as this system IS DIFFERENT to the AGE BEFORE
the formation of OXYGEN, BUT WHEN THERE ALREADY
WAS LAND and PLANT LIFE...look it up, it's science),
and, ALL WILL BE RESURRECTED...yes, EVEN
THOSE WHO MOST BITTERLY HATE GOD, and,
ALL OUR 'ACCOUNTS' WILL BE PERFECTLY SETTLED!

Part of the HEALING during the age after the
SECOND RESURRECTION (there has only been ONE
so far, that of GOD'S ONLY REBORN SON),
involves THE HEALING WATERS,
that FLOOD OUT FROM THE EARTH...

http://www.gabcc.org.au/tools/getfile.aspx?tbl=tblFileLibrary&id=26

then after the 'thousand years of HEALING', physically and spiritually,
the THIRD RESURRECTION of the 'rest of the dead' (those who never
had a chance to know of God, like say, the MURDERED BABIES of those
who practice SATANIC RELIGIONS), AND THEN, THE FINAL "ACCOUNTING".

So yeah, I KNOW there is a REAL, PERFECT, ETERNAL LIFE, on offer,
or I wouldn't be able to endure this cruel existence in a DEATH INFECTED,
DEATH WORSHIPPING world.

oh, that FINAL ACCOUNTING...

it is impossible to 'cook the books',
but those who try, END, being BURNED....





http://www.edwardhill.info/assets/projects/livesofothers/screenshots_0002_intro.jpg




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/The_Lives_of_Others_%28poster%29.gif



the earth is dying because of human fears.


WOW...someone IS DESPERATE to lull folk back to sleep,
with fairy stories that ADVISE TAKING APPLES FROM STRANGERS...

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/31xx/312x/3128_ETB-volcanoes-8_04700300.jpg

http://wapi.isu.edu/EnvGeo/EG6_volcano/images/plate_tectonics.gif

http://www.pacificislandtravel.com/nature_gallery/volcanoes1.gif

http://www.solarnavigator.net/geography/geography_images/volcano_hawaii_kilauea_Puu_oo.jpg

http://s.ngm.com/2008/01/volcano-culture/img/volcano_feature.jpg
The Gods Must Be Restless
Living in the shadow of
Indonesia's volcanoes
http://s.ngm.com/2008/01/volcano-culture/img/drowning_mud.jpg
DROWNING IN MUD

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/01/volcano-culture/andrew-marshall-text

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/01/volcano-culture/decade-volcano-map-interactive

Now BE HONEST, do some STUDY, THINK ABOUT IT,
and TELL US HOW, ANYONE'S LACK OF "fear" of this
UNSTABLE, EXPLOSIVE MASS will stop SPITTING WHALES
ONTO THE SHORE, LET ALONE, END DEATH.


btw, GOD'S LIVING WORD, DESCRIBED ALL THIS,
FROM THE BEGINNING, and man only 'discovered'
the OXYGEN LESS AGE, RECENTLY.

GOD MADE EVERYTHING THAT IS and TOLD US ABOUT IT.

MAN MADE THE RELIGIONS THAT TELL US,
"IGNORE HIM, HE WANTS YOU TO HATE LIES.
What's the fun it that?"

btw,
MOSES MUTTON BIRDS and THE VICTORIA FIRES
seem to be HUGE NO GO ZONES with ALL SEARCHES!

In fact it's still the case that searches send me to
OPPOSING and UNCONNECTED posts,
with OBVIOUS CONSISTENCY!

vera susa
06-11-2009, 02:58 PM
Wow, OBAMA and RUDD BOTH
CRYING THAT MURDOCH'S
'picking on them'...you DO get it don't you,
Politicians come and go...MURDOCH'S there
"to be HATED forever"...and an extra benefit,
his MANY media outlets PROMOTE them with
'popular writers', THEN "MURDOCH THE HATED"
slags them off, so 'they must be O.K.'...oh people
are so easily played...

News.com.au Top stories

PM Kevin Rudd delusional on G20,
says Rupert Murdoch

By Terry McCrann

Herald Sun

November 07, 2009 12:01am

Rupert Murdoch
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7147770,00.jpg
Kevin Rudd is kidding himself if he thinks Australia can act as a bridge between the US and China, Rupert Murdoch says / File

* Rudd kidding himself with G20 - Murdoch
* Made too much of China during election
* China expects too much from PM

KEVIN Rudd is delusional if he thinks Australia can lead the world or act as a bridge between the US and China.

He's very intelligent, he's very interesting, but he's kidding himself with the G20 - the grouping of the top 20 countries in the world, according to Rupert Murdoch, executive chairman of News Corporation, the Herald Sun reports.

"(President) Obama actually wants to cut the even more exclusive G8 to a G4 - and really, to a G2; just the US and China," Mr Murdoch said in a wide-ranging interview yesterday.

"If Rudd thinks we can set an example for the rest of the world with a cap-and-trade system on greenhouse gas emissions - the ETS - all it would do is push up the cost of living in Australia and the rest of the world will laugh," he said.

Related Coverage

* Rupert Murdoch speaks out
Daily Telegraph, 7 Nov 2009
* China must open 'digital door'
The Australian, 12 Oct 2009
* A digital revolution
The Australian, 10 Oct 2009
* Ads return to print
The Australian, 7 Oct 2009
* Rudd lures US investors
Courier Mail, 22 Sep 2009


But is it hurting the country yet? No. But the Prime Minister should focus on running Australia.

Mr Murdoch said many difficulties had arisen from Mr Rudd making so much in the election campaign about his knowledge of China.

It probably led the Chinese to expect too much from him, he said.

"But I think he was right to disillusion them," he added immediately.

And any idea that Australia could be a bridge between China and the US, that's "certainly delusional".

Mr Murdoch has told The Weekend Australian that Mr Rudd is wasting time on spats with the media.

Following public spats between Mr Rudd and editors at News Limited newspapers, including The Weekend Australian, Mr Murdoch has hit back.

"He's oversensitive and too sensitive for his own good," Mr Murdoch told said.

"I've said that to him, sympathetically. Politicians all over the world are paranoid about editorials and in their own interest they would be better employed reading something else, or albeit more laid back about it, put it that way."

Mr Rudd has accused News Limited
of running vendettas against him and his government,
citing things such as The Australian's scrutiny of
the Rudd Government's "education revolution"
and other stories, such as the Godwin Grech fake email affair.

vera susa
06-11-2009, 03:20 PM
MAN LIVED DURING The SUPER-CONTINENT AGE.

Now ANYONE CAN SEE the evidences of those
Literally Earth Shaking Events from then to now,
so HOW THE HELL COULD "they" SELL that INSANE
new ice age...uummm, no, global warming...uummm,
wrong again climate change THREAT, if it was NOT FOR
that equally insane, "Out of Egypt" WAY TOO SHORT
'time-line....

Rudd wages war
on Coalition climate deniers

By online parliamentary correspondent Emma Rodgers

Posted 8 hours 0 minutes ago
Updated 5 hours 45 minutes ago
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200906/r380769_1774099.jpg
"The tentacles of the climate change sceptics
reach deep into the ranks of the Liberal Party."
(Reuters: Jonathan Ernst, file photo)

* Video: Rudd slams climate change sceptics (7pm TV News NSW)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2735769.htm

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has upped the pressure on the Opposition over its emissions trading stance, accusing it of being full of climate change deniers intent on delaying action.

In a speech to the Lowy Institute today Mr Rudd launched a strongly worded attack on the Opposition and climate change sceptics worldwide for holding up countries' efforts to combat climate change.

"It is time to be totally blunt about the agenda of the climate change sceptics in all their colours, some more sophisticated than others," he said.

"It is to destroy the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme at home and it is to destroy agreed global action on climate change abroad.

"And our children's fate - our grandchildren's fate - will lie entirely with them. It is time to remove any polite veneer from this debate; the stakes are that high.

"The clock is ticking for the planet, but the climate change sceptics simply do not care."

His attack came as Climate Change Minister Penny Wong confirmed the Government could not accept all of the Coalition's proposed amendments to the scheme due to budgetary constraints.

Negotiations over changes to the scheme are continuing between the Government and Opposition and it will go to the Senate for a vote in the final parliamentary sitting week of the year.

Mr Rudd accused those who question climate change science of "holding the world to ransom".

"Climate change sceptics, the climate change deniers, the opponents of climate change action are active in every country," he said.

"They are a minority. They are however powerful and invariably they are driven by vested interests [and are] powerful enough to so far block domestic legislation in Australia."

Quoting several Opposition frontbenchers at length as proof of scepticism and a "do-nothing" attitude within the Coalition, Mr Rudd accused the Opposition of political cowardice and a "failure of logic" in so far refusing to pass the scheme.

"The tentacles of the climate change sceptics reach deep into the ranks of the Liberal Party and once you add the National party it's plain the sceptics and the deniers are a major force," he said.

With only around a month to go until the Copenhagen climate change conference Mr Rudd said if no countries acted on climate change the world would be locked in a permanent stand-off.

"As we approach Copenhagen, it becomes clearer that the domestic political pressure produced by the climate change sceptics now has profound global consequences by reducing the momentum towards an ambitious global deal," he said.

Mr Rudd also singled out Malcolm Turnbull in his speech, taking the Opposition Leader to task over his push to hold of passing ETS legislation until after Copenhagen.

"What absolute political cowardice," he said.

But the Opposition Leader refused to rise to Mr Rudd's bait

"I'm not going to run a commentary on, or take the bait from Kevin Rudd, who's obviously given this extraordinary speech in order to create a fight," Mr Turnbull said.

"Now the fact is, and he knows this as well, we are in good faith negotiations with the Government on the amendments we've proposed, and those negotiations should continue.

"He ought to calm down and concentrate on the negotiations; they have the potential to save thousands of jobs and produce a more effective environmental outcome."

Earlier today Senator Wong said the recently released updated economic forecasts showed there would not be as much revenue from carbon pollution reduction scheme (CPRS) up to 2020.

"We have said consistently that we expect any amendments to the CPRS must be economically and fiscally responsible and environmentally credible," she said.

"In light of budget impacts released on Monday, it is clear that carte-blanche acceptance of the entirety of the Opposition's current proposals does not pass these tests."

The Opposition has put up several changes to the scheme including more compensation for heavy polluters and the exclusion of agriculture.

Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull has to take the outcome of the negotiations back to the party room, which will decide whether or not to support the scheme.

But the Nationals and some Liberals have already said they will not support it regardless of any changes made.

The Government has committed Australia to cutting its emissions by 5 per cent of 2000 levels by 2020.

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CSIRO stance not censorship: Minister

By Shane McLeod for The World Today

The World Today | abc.net.au/worldtoday

Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:00pm AEDT
Updated Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:17pm AEDT

* Audio: Minister cool on CSIRO censorship claim (The World Today)
* Audio: Censorship claims at CSIRO (AM)
* Related Story: CSIRO denies censoring climate paper
* Related Story: CSIRO embroiled in censorship claims

The Federal Science Minister says
he is not worried about claims of self-censorship at the CSIRO, after one of its researchers complained he was not allowed to publish some of his work.

Dr Clive Spash, an ecological economist at the CSIRO, has been told not to publish a journal article that looks at the policy at the heart of the Federal Government's response to climate change.

The CSIRO says it has had a long-standing policy that its scientists and researchers do not talk about policy and Dr Spash says it is something he was well aware of.

"The big concern here for economists has been about efficiency," he said.

"Taking an emissions trading scheme approach is known to be the most efficient approach. My paper is criticising that."

But Science Minister Kim Carr says the CSIRO's guidelines are appropriate.

"We've remained firmly committed to our charters of rights and responsibilities for our scientists across all our agencies," he said.

"We also look to the management of our agencies to ensure that the integrity and the authority of our scientific agencies is maintained.

"After all, our agencies are a primary advisory source to Parliament, to the Government and to the people of this country.

"And so, what we say to our scientists - it is important that you go through a process, particularly where your research is part of a team, that you consult with other members of your team, that you engage within the organisation who has funded the research and to ensure that the appropriate processes have been followed."

Challenging ideas

Mr Carr says it is not a matter of censorship and the Federal Government would not object to receiving advice about climate change from the CSIRO.

"We want ideas to be contested. We take the view that people have the right to be wrong, you're entitled to have your ideas challenged," he said.

"At no point have I seen this paper, at no point has the Government said we don't want it published - I frankly take the view it's important to have a range of views in the public arena.

"We have made decisions about the policy directions that the Government's going in, we have looked at this after very careful study - there are different points of view about whether or not we should go for a cap and trade scheme or a tax scheme."

Mr Carr says he is not worried the CSIRO may be censoring itself.

"It's not censoring itself, what you're looking at is the legitimate question about how long some of these things take and management sometimes could improve the speed with which it deals with people in organisations and CSIRO's not immune to that point of view," he said.

"But the chief executive has the paper and is asking that some relatively minor issues be attended to, it has got nothing to with the controversy surrounding the directions that the public policy is going in."

He says the issue also comes down to how Dr Spash presents his work, which was done as part of a team for CSIRO.

"There is a role for the policy makers which is distinct from policy advice on in terms of the scientific evidence," he said.

"If people want to stand for Parliament they're entitled to, if people want to engage in the public debate they're entitled to, this is a paper that the gentleman wants to have published in a political journal - I'm not fussed about that, but it is a political journal he's seeking to have it published in and he's entitled to do that.

"The question is whether or not he's met the criteria of within his respect to his colleagues and of the organisation in which he works."

vera susa
06-11-2009, 03:36 PM
And yet more rather rudely abrupt
"UNINVITING" of 'the wrong sort' of foreigners
for our NORTHERN "owners"...

College collapses
tarnish Australia's reputation

By Gus Goswell for PM

PM | abc.net.au/pm

Posted 4 hours 21 minutes ago
Updated 4 hours 13 minutes ago

Slideshow: Photo 1 of 5
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2735917.htm?section=justin

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r465428_2305860.jpg
NSW Police were called to speak to foreign students in Sydney who were upset at the closure of their college. (ABC TV News)

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r465458_2306173.jpg
Angry students gather at the collapsed
Meridian College group in Sydney 06/11/09 (ABC TV)
* Video: Students rally as colleges collapse (7pm TV News NSW)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2735917.htm?section=justin
* Map: Melbourne 3000
* Related Story: Shock as international colleges shut
* Related Story: College closure hits Indian students
* Related Story: College collapse: Indian students still in limbo

The sudden closing of four more private education colleges has further weakened Australia's claim to be a provider of first class education for international students.

The collapse of the Global Campus Management Group could affect up to 3,000 students in Melbourne and Sydney. The company is now in the hands of administrators.

State and federal governments have been quick to promise that affected students will be looked after, but there are no guarantees there will not be more closures.

The Meridian International Hotel School in central Melbourne, one of the four that closed, was supposed to be hosting exams this morning. Instead, it was the venue for an angry protest.

"We have given two years to this place, this college. We we're expecting a degree; we were expecting that we'll have a degree ceremony here. What is our future? We don't know," one student said.

"I actually came in to submit some of my assignments today - 15 days away from my graduation."

Mary Bluett from the Victorian Education Union says students and staff at the four colleges had no idea the company that owns them was about to collapse.

"The decision was made very quickly and suddenly yesterday," she said.

"The staff were not informed until 4.55pm so that there was no real way for students to know exactly what was happening."

Victorian Premier John Brumby says he sympathises with the students.

"You pay for a service and it's not delivered - of course people are angry," he said.

"I think the timing, the decision by the owners to withdraw their support obviously is unfortunate. These are kids that are in the middle of their exams."

Useless auditing process

Mr Brumby also confirmed an audit of colleges had recently been completed.

"The company concerned was audited some time ago and passed all the tests in terms of the audit," he said.

But the Education Union's Mary Bluett says the auditing process is useless.

"There are a growing number of private colleges collapsing, and students are paying the price," she said.

"We're certainly calling for a set of tough national standards that will reduce the risk of this happening in the future."

Federal Education Minister Julia Gillard released a statement this afternoon saying the Government will help out students.

"The NSW and Victorian Governments will make sure students in the middle of their HSC and VCE exams can complete them," it said.

"And the Australian Council for Private Education and Training will now begin looking for alternative places for the students to study."

Reputation damaged

Andrew Smith, the head of the council, says the students will not be left in limbo.

"We will be in contact with them; we'll be meeting with them early next week," he said.

"We've already started working to gather the information we need in order to be able to place these students in another course in another provider so they can continue their study as soon as possible."

Mr Smith says institutions are doing it tough.

"Clearly there's been some reputational damage done to Australia's international education industry in recent months," he said.

"We've also seen some changes in government policy and some flag changes in government policy that have all come together to impact demand for international education in Australia."

He says he is also sympathetic to the situation the students find themselves in.

"They've come to Australia to study; they've found that that's been disrupted," he said.

"Our focus is absolutely on being able to support and assist these students and we'll be meeting with them early next week to tell them how we plan to do that.

"But clearly, the reputation of Australia's international education industry is going to be impacted by events like this."

Future closures

Mr Smith says steps need to be taken to ensure no more colleges close down.

"We need some very strong statements from government in support of this industry," he said.

"It is an industry that creates over 120,000 jobs over the Australian economy."

But government assurance is not likely to pacify all the students whose studies are now in tatters.

"We'll definitely send a message to our peers, to our guardians, to our parents, to our friends, to our relatives that Victoria or Australia is not a good place for safe education," one student said.

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Now you will note: NOT SO MUCH AS A TEXT or EMAIL
to let the students know, so of course they WILL BE ANGRY
and so PRESENT A BAD IMAGE...also, the COMPANY only
bought the BUSINESS 6 weeks ago...TO GUT and DUMP!
And what's the bet that that COMPANY WILL now GET
WELL REWARDED in future BUSINESS DEALS!

vera susa
06-11-2009, 11:18 PM
Oh there is SO MUCH UNREST
in The ISLANDS HEDGING US...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Asylum seeker spokesman
'a people smuggler'

Posted 49 minutes ago
Updated 37 minutes ago
The same group of asylum seekers
last month briefly staged a hunger strike.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200910/r453475_2212123.jpg
The same group of asylum seekers
last month briefly staged a hunger strike. (Reuters: Dadang Tri)

* Related Story: Boats distressed off Indonesia, Navy on standby
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* Related Story: Oceanic Viking stand-off extended

Sri Lanka has accused the spokesman
for more than 250 Sri Lankan asylum seekers
still onboard a wooden cargo boat in Western Java
of being a people smuggler.

The spokesman for those on board the boat in Merak Port
has until now been known only as Alex,
but the Sri Lankan foreign ministry
has named him as Kulaendrarajah Sanjeev.

It says he was deported from Canada
for involvement with violent street gangs in 2003.

The man, who still calls himself Alex,
has refused to comment on the accusation.

Last month,
speaking on behalf of the 250 asylum seekers,
Alex said the group remained in constant contact
with people smugglers and was willing to
give up their identities
if the Australian Government granted them asylum.

"We have made that agreement.
We will help you apprehend anybody
that is involved because there is
a huge network out there
and we will actually go as far
as we can to stop this,"
he said.

"We will hand over all agents who are involved in this if the Australian Government accepts us."

The same group of asylum seekers last month briefly staged a hunger strike.

Meanwhile, the Indonesian government yesterday extended the security clearance for an Australian Customs ship carrying 78 Sri Lankan asylum seekers for another week.

The Oceanic Viking has been anchored in Indonesia waters off the coast of Bintan Island for nearly three weeks, with the asylum seekers on board refusing to leave the boat.

The Indonesian foreign ministry says the ship will be allowed to stay until next Friday.

Its security clearance was due to expire yesterday

But the stand-off looks set to continue with the asylum seekers yesterday declaring their "final decision" is to remain on the Australian ship.

In handwritten letters thrown from the vessel, the Sri Lankans say they have rejected all offers made by Australian officials in negotiations over the past few weeks.

The letters say "you talked about giving us resettlement very quickly if we agree to go ashore in Indonesia".

"We are not ready to go back to Indonesia. This is our final decision."

The letters allege mistreatment by Australian customs officials in order to "push" them ashore, including being given little food, not being allowed to shower and "using bad words" against the asylum seekers.

Tags: community-and-society, immigration, world-politics, refugees, indonesia, sri-lanka, java

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Rescued asylum seekers
arrive at Christmas Island

Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:04pm AEDT
Updated Fri Nov 6, 2009 5:19pm AEDT
The survivors are due to be off-loaded at Christmas Island later today.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r465352_2305145.jpg
The survivors are due to be off-loaded
at Christmas Island later today.
(User submitted: Steve Watson)

* Map: Christmas Island 6798
* Related Story:
Boat disaster to be investigated
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/04/2733571.htm

The ship carrying asylum seekers rescued from
a sunken boat near the Cocos Islands
has arrived at Christmas Island.

The LNG Pioneer recovered 27 survivors
during the search and rescue operation earlier this week.

It's believed 39 people, including three children,
were on board the boat when it sank on Sunday.

The 27 men who survived claim to be from Sri Lanka
and are due to be off-loaded at Christmas Island later today.

Immigration Minister Chris Evans says the survivors will be offered counselling.

"They'll obviously be interviewed on arrival and receive the normal medical checks and then we'll interview them for identity and security purposes," he said.

"But we've also got in place trauma counselling because they've been through a pretty difficult experience and no doubt many of them will be affected by that."

Tags: immigration, christmas-island-6798, home-island-cocos-keeling-islands-6799, west-island-cocos-keeling-islands-6799

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thai-Cambodian dispute escalates


06 November 2009 | 06:36:13 PM | Source: AFP

Thailand today
threatened to seal its border
with Cambodia
in a spiralling diplomatic row
over Phnom Penh's
naming of fugitive
former Thai premier
Thaksin Shinawatra
as an adviser.

The warning came a day after the two countries recalled their respective ambassadors due to the dispute over the appointment of Thaksin, who was ousted in a 2006 coup and lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption.

"If Cambodia still adopts a hard line and uncompromising attitude, then we must continue to downgrade relations and maybe seal off all border checkpoints," Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said.

There were no reports of any incidents along the border so far and trading was going on as normal, Suthep said.

* Cambodia gives ousted Thai leader a job
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* Thailand to strip Thaksin of awards

Border skirmishes fought since July 2008

Thailand and Cambodia have fought a series of deadly skirmishes since July 2008 over disputed land that surrounds the ancient Preah Vihear temple on the border.

Thailand boosted security around the Cambodian Embassy after the Cambodian ambassador returned to Phnom Penh early Friday. There have been rallies in recent weeks around the building by anti-Thaksin protesters.

Suthep said Thailand expected Cambodia to reciprocate, adding: "Thaksin should ask Cambodian authorities to secure the Thai embassy and Thai interests in Cambodia," he said.

Thai embassy set fire in 2003

In 2003 Cambodian protesters set fire to the Thai embassy in Phnom Penh, again after both countries recalled their ambassadors in a diplomatic row.

Suthep meanwhile said there were no plans for Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to meet his Cambodian counterpart Hun Sen when the pair attend a summit of Mekong River basin nations in Tokyo starting Friday.

There was no immediate comment from Phnom Penh.

The Cambodian government announced the appointment of Thaksin as economics adviser on state television late Wednesday, almost two weeks after Hun Sen first floated the idea at a summit of Asian leaders.

Twice-elected Thaksin remains a hugely influential figure in Thailand, which has been rocked by years of protests by his red-clad supporters and yellow-clad opponents, including rallies that shut down Bangkok's airports last year.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Isaiah 41
The Helper of Israel

1 "Be silent before me, you islands!
Let the nations renew their strength!
Let them come forward and speak;
let us meet together at the place of judgment.

2 "Who has stirred up one from the east,
calling him in righteousness to his service [a] ?
He hands nations over to him
and subdues kings before him.
He turns them to dust with his sword,
to windblown chaff with his bow.

3 He pursues them and moves on unscathed,
by a path his feet have not traveled before.

4 Who has done this and carried it through,
calling forth the generations from the beginning?
I, the LORD -with the first of them
and with the last—I am he."

5 The islands have seen it and fear;
the ends of the earth tremble.
They approach and come forward;

6 each helps the other
and says to his brother, "Be strong!"

7 The craftsman encourages the goldsmith,
and he who smooths with the hammer
spurs on him who strikes the anvil.
He says of the welding, "It is good."
He nails down the idol so it will not topple.

8 "But you, O Israel, my servant,
Jacob, whom I have chosen,
you descendants of Abraham my friend,

9 I took you from the ends of the earth,
from its farthest corners I called you.
I said, 'You are my servant';
I have chosen you and have not rejected you.

10 So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

11 "All who rage against you
will surely be ashamed and disgraced;
those who oppose you
will be as nothing and perish.

12 Though you search for your enemies,
you will not find them.
Those who wage war against you
will be as nothing at all.

13 For I am the LORD, your God,
who takes hold of your right hand
and says to you, Do not fear;
I will help you.

14 Do not be afraid, O worm Jacob,
O little Israel,
for I myself will help you," declares the LORD,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

15 "See, I will make you into a threshing sledge,
new and sharp, with many teeth.
You will thresh the mountains and crush them,
and reduce the hills to chaff.

16 You will winnow them, the wind will pick them up,
and a gale will blow them away.
But you will rejoice in the LORD
and glory in the Holy One of Israel.

17 "The poor and needy search for water,
but there is none;
their tongues are parched with thirst.
But I the LORD will answer them;
I, the God of Israel, will not forsake them.

18 I will make rivers flow on barren heights,
and springs within the valleys.
I will turn the desert into pools of water,
and the parched ground into springs.

19 I will put in the desert
the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive.
I will set pines in the wasteland,
the fir and the cypress together,

20 so that people may see and know,
may consider and understand,
that the hand of the LORD has done this,
that the Holy One of Israel has created it.

21 "Present your case," says the LORD.
"Set forth your arguments," says Jacob's King.

22 "Bring in your idols to tell us
what is going to happen.
Tell us what the former things were,
so that we may consider them
and know their final outcome.
Or declare to us the things to come,

23 tell us what the future holds,
so we may know that you are gods.
Do something, whether good or bad,
so that we will be dismayed and filled with fear.

24 But you are less than nothing
and your works are utterly worthless;
he who chooses you is detestable.

25 "I have stirred up one from the north, and he comes—
one from the rising sun who calls on my name.
He treads on rulers as if they were mortar,
as if he were a potter treading the clay.

26 Who told of this from the beginning, so we could know,
or beforehand, so we could say, 'He was right'?
No one told of this,
no one foretold it,
no one heard any words from you.

27 I was the first to tell Zion, 'Look, here they are!'
I gave to Jerusalem a messenger of good tidings.

28 I look but there is no one—
no one among them to give counsel,
no one to give answer when I ask them.

29 See, they are all false!
Their deeds amount to nothing;
their images are but wind and confusion.

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 41:2 Or / whom victory meets at every step


~~~~~~~~~~

Middle East Conflict
Abbas gives up
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/resize/index/id/58496/w/107/h/80/1126097_pic.jpg
Abbas gives up

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas
says he is fed up with
US concessions to Israel
and won't seek re-election.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1126097/Abbas-gives-up-on-presidency

But yet, BECAUSE OF that BLOODY EGYPT LIE,
the world has been SLAUGHTERING over this
little shit strip of desert for thousands of years.

so few people
SO MANY ARMS
SO MUCH "NEWS"
KEEP THE WORLD'S EYES OFF
THE REAL PROMISED LAND...
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/specialcoverage/38/Middle-East-Conflict

And you will NOT FIND
THIS TAKE ON ANY CONSPIRACY Site,
by ANY CONSPIRACY "GURU"...

vera susa
07-11-2009, 12:09 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7147876,00.jpg
Fans have walked out
of Britney Spears'
first Australian performance of
The Circus,
upset by her miming
and stage performance

Yes it IS a BLOODY CIRCUS
that THE CONSPIRACY BEHIND
ALL CONSPIRACIES
IS COVERED UP BY
The Conspiracy INDUSTRY

Passengers feared drowned
after boat sinks
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/02/2730441.htm

* Video:
Rescue underway after
boat sinks in remote waters (ABC News)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/02/2730084.htm

A boat carrying 40 people,
who may be asylum seekers,
has sunk in rough seas
north-west of the Cocos Islands.

The ship's master has told authorities
that up to 17 people have been rescued
and about 23 are still missing.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r462742_2282118.jpg

So, "SINK"...or...

"FLY TO LIFE"...

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r462734_2281956.jpg
The RFDS is sending its new
WA-based emergency jet
to join the search. (ABC News)

vera susa
07-11-2009, 12:20 AM
The Earth,
GAIA,
Is A Pretty Much Enclosed Eco-System Though...

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/DanJanet/Spinning-Earth.gif

Matter Is Neither Created Or Destroyed...!!!

Newtons First Law Of Thermo-Dynamics...!!!

OK We Get A Few Tons Of Cosmic Material,
Imput Into This Closed System,

But We Output A Similar Amount In Space Junk...!!!

In The Universe It's Nothing...!!!

:eek:

Yep, DEAD Matter,
and DEAD MATTER can NOT
CREATE LIFE...

LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE

and
EVERY DEATH leaves LESS
LIFE to generate LIFE.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 12:35 AM
New boom
'could last for years',
says a bullish RBA

* David Uren, Economics correspondent
* From: The Australian
* November 07, 2009 12:00AM


AUSTRALIA is rapidly emerging from the downturn
into an economic boom the Reserve Bank believes
could last for years, powered by the resource industry
and rapid population growth.

The bank's quarterly review of the economy, published yesterday, has sharply upgraded its short-term economic forecasts and presented a radical rethink of Australia's growth potential.

It believes the economy is about to overcome the infrastructure bottlenecks that held back resource exports during the boom which preceded the financial crisis.

The Reserve Bank suggests that boom will be dwarfed by the developments to come.

The Reserve Bank has sharply upgraded its short-term outlook, with growth to average 3 per cent in 2010-11, which is slightly more optimistic than Treasury's tip of 2.75 per cent, published in the budget update released on Monday. The bank expects the revival in the resource industry to start taking effect over the next year, with the big iron ore and coalmine firms expected to win price rises of 10 to 20 per cent in the next round of contract negotiations, and Australia's terms of trade set to start rising again.


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While iron ore exports have risen by 70 per cent over the past five years, the bank notes that coal exports have been held back by problems with shared rail and port infrastructure in Queensland and NSW.

"Over the next two years, if capacity comes on line as planned, production of these bulk commodities could increase by around one third, with further significant increases possible over the remainder of the decade."

LNG exports will grow three or four times once the $43 billion Gorgon project starts to come on line, and the Reserve Bank believes there is scope for more LNG expansion.

It says that there have been previous periods when many large resource projects were under consideration but the optimism faded and expansion plans were scrapped. However, it believes this is less likely now.

"This reflects three important considerations: the prospect of continued strong growth in China, India and other emerging economies in Asia; the fact that confirmed reserves of gas, iron ore and coal have already been discovered; and, for LNG, that projects generally lock in multi-decade contracts with buyers before construction commences."

Until now, both the Reserve Bank and Treasury have believed that ageing of the population and low productivity growth meant that Australia could no longer expect to grow at rates above 3 per cent without risking inflation.

"It will be less, and our growth aspirations would have to be adjusted accordingly," Glenn Stevens said in a speech shortly after being appointed Reserve Bank governor in 2006.

However, the bank said yesterday that the fastest population growth since the 1960s and rapid growth in business investment meant growth potential could now be much higher.

Business investment is building Australia's stock of plant and buildings at a rate of 5 per cent a year, double the rate of the 1990s and much higher than in any other advanced country.

The population is rising at more than 2 per cent a year, which is its fastest growth rate since the 1960s.

Even if productivity improvements are only modest, "growth in potential output in the immediate period ahead is likely to be above the standard estimates of recent years", the bank said.

The Reserve Bank's review follows comments on Wednesday by Mr Stevens to the Road to Recovery conference, presented by The Australian and the Melbourne Institute, that the growth in mining investment, which has risen from 1.5 per cent to 5 per cent of GDP over the past five years, could be eclipsed over coming years.

Mr Stevens suggested Australia might need to follow Norway in establishing an offshore fund to invest mining tax payments to minimise disruption to the economy.

Treasury shares the Reserve Bank's optimism about the long-term future for the resource sector, however the bank believes the upturn is more imminent and is also more confident about the rest of the economy.

Its quarterly review says business investment is turned around everywhere except commercial property, while Treasury says it remains weak outside the resource industry.

"Business investment is no longer expected to fall sharply, with spending supported by the improvement in business conditions, growth in Asia, the positive outlook for the resources sector and the fiscal stimulus measures," the Reserve Bank says.

Although it does not provide a forecast on unemployment, the Reserve Bank says its liaison program with private business shows that hiring is increasing, suggesting it believes there may be little if any further rise in the number of jobless.

The bank's central forecast is the economy can make the transition from downturn to resources boom without inflation breaking out of its 2 to 3 per cent target band, however it says investment could turn out to be even stronger than it expects.

"While this would have positive implications for longer-term potential growth of the economy, the higher level of investment spending and flow-on to the broader economy could see capacity pressures re-emerging in the near term, and a further appreciation of the exchange rate.

"In this event, underlying inflation would be expected to decline by less than in the central forecast."

vera susa
07-11-2009, 12:51 AM
So again, WHY Australia
stayed so "QUAINT" and EMPTY
for so long...

"THEY" have been waiting to
make "Their" "Safe House",
CLEAN, GREEN and with
ALL TRULY MOD. CONS. ...


Australia's second
lithium mine opened


06 November 2009 | 04:56:43 PM | Source: AAP

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/resize/index/id/51859/w/300/h/225/site_1_rand_2018779526_bhp_mining_2411_b_aap.jpg
Residents of Ravensthorpe in WA
should see jobs created by
the new Galaxy Resources lithium mine -
afetr BHP shut its nickel mine in January,
costing 1,800 jobs. (Getty)

The ground has been broken on Australia's second lithium mine, Galaxy Resources Ltd's Mt. Cattlin project at Ravensthorpe in Western Australia, and first production slated for
late 2010.

* Dow Chemical, Shenhua revive
$10 billion China project
* Commodities demand to rebound 2010: BHP
* Jailed exec a concern, Rudd tells China


The new mine was officially opened on Friday by WA Premier Colin Barnett, who said it was good news for Ravensthorpe and surrounding communities.

Residents of Ravensthorpe and nearby Hopetoun were left reeling in January when mining giant BHP Billiton Ltd mothballed its Ravensthorpe nickel mine following a dive in the metal's price, resulting in more than 1,800 job losses.

Mr Tan said that by 2010 the Mt. Cattlin mine would be the world's second largest hard-rock producer of spodumene, and would be one of three lithium minerals currently mined commercially along with petalite and lepidolite.

"Spodumene is the most important of the lithium-bearing minerals due to its higher lithia content and the fact that it tends to be found in larger deposits," Talison Minerals general manager strategic development David Miller told a conference earlier this year.

Until now,
unlisted Talison has been Australia's
sole lithium miner, with operations at
Greenbushes
in WA's south-west region.
Demand for lithium,
which is used in batteries
for electric cars,
is forecast to triple
over the next decade."

Independent research house Stock Resource said in a research note this week that Galaxy and Orocobre Ltd were the only Australian stock exchange-listed companies that offered investors exposure to lithium, with Orocobre focused on Argentina.

Shares in Galaxy closed up 11 cents, or 7.21 per cent, at $1.635.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 01:29 AM
This is getting ridiculous...

...seems the 'news' is now
so FULL of CONTRADICTIONS...

...of what I've been saying
ALL ALONG...

...and what The Conspiracy INDUSTRY
KEEPS SELLING to it's TARGET MARKET:
GOD MOCKERS and those DECEIVED by
The INSANE, 'BACON FRIED' EGYPT book...


Floodwaters strand up to 5000
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7147872,00.jpg

WILD weather has cut off
thousands of residents in
northern parts of NSW.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26316810-421,00.html

Western Sydney faces water crisis

The State Government must consider
curbing population growth
in western Sydney,
scientists say.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/western-sydney-faces-water-crisis-scientists-warn-20091106-i24z.html

~~~~~~~~~~~

Like I said,
HERD the TINY population
into a SMALL FEW CITIES,
AWAY from all those
GLORIOUS COUNTRY REGIONS,
by SHUTTING DOWN Regional
Infrastructure, Supply and Business,
and the people DON'T SEE that
COMPLETE BULLSHIT "worst drought" LIE,
and FALL for MORE LIES of
The GLOBAL WATER THIEF,
That BLOODY DUTCH Prince of ORANGE
and those BLOODY ARROGANT
"Friend" and FAMILY CIRCLES!

vera susa
07-11-2009, 01:45 AM
2:00am
Unemployment soars to
10.2 per cent

THE United States unemployment rate
leapt up by a larger-than-expected
four-tenths of a percentage point in October
to 10.2 per cent,
even as the pace of job losses slowed sharply,
the government reported today.

United States — Population:304,059,724

10.2% of 304 059 724 = 31 014 091.8

Australia — Population:21,007,310

United Kingdom — Population:60,943,912

UK Unemployment at 7.9%
7.9% of 60 943 912 = 4 814 569.05
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs129.snc1/5532_1135686996764_1365022414_30563517_2290972_n.j pg

So WHY IS my argument, STILL 'an argument' :confused:

vera susa
07-11-2009, 02:32 AM
Wikipedia
Today's featured article
The Victoria Cross for Australia medal
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Victoria_Cross_Medal_Ribbon_%26_Bar.jpg

The Victoria Cross for Australia
is the highest award in the
Australian Honours System,
superseding
the Victoria Cross for issue to Australians.

It was created by letters patent signed by
Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia,
on 15 January 1991.
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6509028,00.jpg
The first medalwas awarded on
16 January 2009 to
Trooper Mark Donaldson,
for the rescue of a coalition forces interpreter
from heavy fire in Oruzgan Province in Afghanistan.

Donaldson's award came almost 40 years after
Warrant Officer Keith Payne became the last Australian
to be awarded the (original) Victoria Cross for gallantry
on 24 May 1969 during the Vietnam War.

The Victoria Cross for Australia is the
"decoration for according recognition to persons
who in the presence of the enemy,
perform acts of the most conspicuous gallantry,
or daring or pre-eminent acts of valour
or self-sacrifice or
display extreme devotion to duty."

As the highest Australian award,
it is listed first on the Australian Order of Wear
with precedence in Australia over all orders,
decorations and medals.

The decoration may be awarded to members of
the Australian Defence Force
and to other persons determined by
the Australian Minister for Defence.

When the medal is awarded, the ceremony is presided over
by the Governor-General of Australia
on behalf of the Queen of Australia,
who presents the medal during an investiture.
(more...is where it GETS INTERESTING...)

Original medal

On 29 January 1856, Queen Victoria
signed the Royal Warrant that officially instituted
the Victoria Cross.

The Warrant was backdated to 1854
to recognise acts of valour committed
during the Crimean War.

It was originally intended that the Victoria Crosses
would be cast from the bronze cascabels
of two cannon that were captured from the Russians
at the Siege of Sevastopol.

However, historian John Glanfield has proven,
through the use of X-rays of older Victoria Crosses,
that the metal used for the Victoria Crosses
is in fact from antique Chinese guns,
and not of Russian origin....
Victoria Cross for Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.shutterpoint.com/photos/S/20080221_132746_vicky%20cross_view.jpg

'Absolute devastation':
Victoria gutted
by deadly bushfires
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6509028,00.jpg
8 Febuary 2009
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/08/2485299.htm

http://www.royalcommission.vic.gov.au/images/logo_royalcommission.gif
http://www.royalcommission.vic.gov.au/Home
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6509028,00.jpg

vera susa
07-11-2009, 03:18 AM
I did say that we were having
LAND BATTLES in OZ.

These FIRES are
ONE OF OUR September 11's!

First sign:

THEY DID NOT GIVE
THE USUAL CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS.

Where were the MAPS,
NAMED, BLOCKED and SAFE ROADS etc.?

Then the MEDIA COVERAGE!

HOURS and HOURS of the same handful of interviews of
people SAYING THE RIGHT THINGS,
and bugger all of the
VERY REAL COMPLAINTS that
WHOLE TOWNS were LIED TO
and so stayed and BURNED!

but also the IMAGES!!!!!

TANKS!

oh a bit of the usual,
'our Military LOVE TO RESCUE and HELP
our citizens',

but it was TANKS that we are
NOT USED TO SEEING ON OUR SOIL.

Anyway, I'm still having trouble thinking about all this,
but it is scaring the shitter out of me, due to the
flashes of memory that hit like sledge hammer then
get instantly forgotten again, so I'll just post a bit more
'news'...with some VERY TIMELY IMAGES!!!!


Victoria fires:
173 dead,
towns ruined,
police chase arsonists

By staff writers

NEWS.com.au

February 10, 2009 07:24am
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25033480-5000540,00.html

1 of 3
Mother watches son sleep / Picture: Craig Borrow
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479444,00.jpg
A family sleeps in a car after evacuating


Soldiers on the ground / Picture: Ian Currie
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479445,00.jpg
Soldiers on the ground to help / Picture: Ian Currie.

and, 3 of 120...
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478554,00.jpg
Army troops at Broadford prepare to head to the fire front
to set up containment lines.(YES, WHOLE TOWNS ARE BEING CONTAINED,
AWAY FROM COMPLAINING TO THE MEDIA,
about how THEY WERE SET UP TO BURN!)
Picture: Ian Currie

when it WAS of 164/7?
before I clicked to it at:
http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,23607,5037339-5006020-3,00.html


http://www.news.com.au/files/fire_victimstxt.jpg
http://media.news.com.au/multimedia/mediaplayer/skins/timeline/index.html?id=1185
BOW TIE
PEARLS
'BLOODY BANDAGE'
POLKA DOTS



don't worry, I'm getting to something...

vera susa
07-11-2009, 03:21 AM
Yep, just like the
PINK, CHILD'S SHOE with BUTTERFLY image
from the CHINA EARTHQUAKES,
these fires still have to used to
"Speak to Brothers & Sisters"...

77...

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479429,00.jpg
A sign

outside a burnt-out property

at Kinglake.

Picture: Craig Hughes

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479406,00.jpg
A lone house survives
in an area burnt in fires at Callignee.
Picture: Tim Carrafa

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479383,00.jpg
The intensity of the fires must have been unimaginable.
Picture:Craig Borrow
(but I still see those,
"TOES OF IRON & CLAY")

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479391,00.jpg
9
19
9
The devastated township of Marysville.
Picture courtesy Keith Pakenham CFA Public Affairs


http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479399,00.jpg
Marisa Pegorao, whose husband
Dino hired a chopper to check their property and found their neighbour alive in a paddock.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479380,00.jpg
Kinglake residents
Rod and Maryanne Mercuri
and their children Allyson, 11, and
twin sons Dean and Kirk, both 9,
survived the deadly fire.
(numbers and
WEST COAST CHOPPERS)

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478402,00.jpg
At the Whittlesea relief centre -
Kane Ronchi, 6 from Flowerdale,
collects a wiggles toothbrush, toothpaste,
a yo-yo and a Dora the Explorer money box
from the donations.
He is wearing motorcycle gumboots
that are far too big but he refuses to take them off.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6477473,00.jpg
A motorbike lays on the Heidelberg-Kinglake Rd
in the Arthur's Creek/ St Andrews Area.
It is believed that the rider of the bike
was found deceased near the crash scene.
Picture: Darren Tindale

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478554,00.jpg
Army troops at Broadford
prepare to head to the fire front
to set up containment lines.
Picture: Ian Currie

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478432,00.jpg
Up to 40 homes were lost in Eaglehawk, Bendigo.
The destruction at Sparrowhawk Road, Long Gully.
Picture: Mike Keating




Now within the next
30 odd pages from here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1233
you WILL SEE 'them' FLOODING OVER
this GLOBALLY IMPORTANT NEWS...

...then when I finally DO get ANGRY
at 'their' OBVIOUS ORDERS to
BURY THE IMPORTANCE and MEANING,
'they' start The LIE that 'I' want attention!

FFS!!! THESE ARE MY FELLOW
COUNTRYMEN, WOMEN & CHILDREN
and IT ISN'T OVER YET...

while those
BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS
plan to 'CLEAR MORE OF OUT' of
OUR PRIME REAL ESTATE !



Are you F****G serious??
Are you contuning betraying?

Judas? (VERA SUSA)
THERE IS NO END
TO YOUR BETRAYAL NO?

Now from 8-2-2009,
during the
VICTORIA FIRES,
3 1/2 months before
the attempted murder

Well, looks like I have to become,
"self-centred"...so busy looking out
for what's important to the world,
that I totally overlooked
tintin's
"warnings" or predictions of what
was being orchestrated against me,
OVER A YEAR AGO,
that HAS come to pass...and the DETAIL!

Full names,
Right down to middle names
of 'Players',
their occupations, pass times, tastes.

It was something about today's posts,
that made me look back 12 months
(when I didn't even know these people
to recognise, but they DID know me,
and other 'certain' people who've given me
nothing but HELL),
then I recalled more recent posts that
did read like personal warnings I sort of
recognised at the time, but didn't see
myself as 'important' enough to think it
anything other than, 'coincidence induced paranoia',
after the initial 'wet fish in the face' shock,
of first reading them.

Well the recent round of
lies and 'secrets' I've been assaulted with,
made me have to admit something 'spooky':
seems it is 'important' to "Someone" that
I DIE SOON, preferably "at my own hand"
after a total meltdown...and so, leave these
readers of very near 2 Million views, feeling,
"Duped By A Nutter" and so, PRIMED to,
BOW TO BEAST.

But being sane enough to know that I am only an old mother
and even top level spies can be broken with the right 'tools',
I can't keep fobbing off the 'tools' being employed against me,
as they are some of the most effective at 'dismantling' anyone
with a forgiving heart, who's thankful for small mercies...that
gradually become so small, they become MURDEROUS CRUELTIES.

tintin, I don't know if you knew there were
VERY PERSONAL WARNINGS for me in your posts,
but right now I fear more FOR those hurting me
BUT SERVING Those BETRAYING THEM.

WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
INTO BELIEVING THEY, 'ARE ALREADY DAMNED',
and so, 'DAMN' OTHERS OUT OF PAIN.

Guys, you who believe that I am your enemy:
LOVE GIVES.
It doesn't trade, swap, sell, it gives, forgives
and does NOT SEEK VENGEANCE/RETRIBUTION
but trusts God's Justice...so PLEASE, for your sakes,
stop compounding sin upon sin,
SERVING THOSE BETRAYING YOU, by BETRAYING
the one LOVINGLY, though imperfectly, WARNING YOU.

So many people are having so much 'fun', laughing
at what I've been giving someone I love, NONGS!

I'm GIVING to ALL OF THEM, a free education.

One day, we will all have to choose to
LOVE and LIVE or LIE and DIE, FOREVER.

And if only one of these people remember
the difference between receiving
the LOVE of IMperfect manKIND
and
the COLD CUNNING of 'PERFECTLY' INhumane beings,
they could be inspired to seek,
THE PERFECT LOVE of Our Creator God,
and LIVE, FOREVER HEALED and HAPPY.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 04:18 AM
Truck driver Mark O'Keefe
sues
Alex Lloyd;
claims he co-wrote Amazing

By Kim Arlington

The Daily Telegraph

February 07, 2009 12:01am


Image 1 of 2

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6475550,00.jpg
Fight for rights ... Mark O'Keefe at the Federal Court yesterday / The Daily Telegraph

next image
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6475552,00.jpg
It's mine ... Australian singer-songwriter Alex Lloyd on stage / file

* Truck driver suing Alex Lloyd
* Claims he co-wrote his hit Amazing
* "Is entitled to half the profits"

TRUCK driver and musician Mark O'Keefe has penned more than 1000 songs.

He acknowledges that none have been hits - except, he claims, the one he co-wrote with singer Alex Lloyd on a beer coaster at a Rozelle pub, The Daily Telegraph reports.

The single Amazing took Lloyd to fame and fortune, topping Triple J's Hottest 100 poll in 2001 and becoming the most frequently played song on Aussie radio in 2002.

Used as the soundtrack for a series of ad campaigns,
the song has kept
the royalties rolling in.

Mr O'Keefe is suing Lloyd, saying he jointly authored the song
and is entitled to half the profits.

With no money to pay lawyers, Mr O'Keefe, 47, yesterday represented himself at a Federal Court hearing.

The father of two is determined to fight to the end.
Related Coverage

* Truckie's Amazing copyright fight
Daily Telegraph, 7 Feb 2009
* O'Keefe laughs off drunken binge
Adelaide Now, 12 Jan 2009
* Sorry about boozy night out: O'Keefe
Herald Sun, 12 Jan 2009
* TV industry cries wolf over Andrew
Daily Telegraph, 23 Dec 2008
* O'Keefe's candid camera shame
Perth Now, 22 Dec 2008


"It's my song,'' he said.

"It's my fame. It should have been shared success.''

In court documents he alleges the song had its genesis "on drinks coasters'' at Rozelle's Bridge Hotel in 1991.

Mr O'Keefe told The Daily Telegraph he had been performing with his band What's Next when he was approached by a teenage Lloyd, then known as Slim La Beef, and with a band of his own called The Spare Ribs.

"He came up to me and said he thought we were amazing songwriters,'' Mr O'Keefe said.

"He told me he wanted to be a songwriter and asked for advice. I asked him if he had a couple of hours to spare.''

Mr O'Keefe claims he wrote the lyrics and melody of the chorus of Amazing, the opening line of the first verse and the opening line of the middle eight.

Lloyd agreed to finish the song and register it with the Australasian Performing Right Association under both their names as joint authors, splitting the royalties, he claims.

Lloyd is working overseas but denies Mr O'Keefe played any part in writing the song.

According to defence documents, he has no recollection of meeting Mr O'Keefe and denies being given advice on drinks coasters about song writing techniques, copyright or music industry matters.

Mediation has not been successful. Nor, said Mr O'Keefe, were attempts to resolve the dispute before it went to court.

Mr O'Keefe said the court case was not about money: "Alex owns me as a songwriter.''
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Alex Lloyd - Amazing"

When all you want to do is rock,
But you don’t want to bear the shock no more.
When it’s just swell that fills your eyes,
Belated feelings that you have denied.
When every wolf is at your door, just like a hundred times before,
But you don’t want to leave the end.

Cause you were amazing and we did amazing things,
And I wouldn't change it, cause we were amazing things.

Rebuilding bridges in your mind, your eagerness now is on the line,
The plastic mountain at your feet, divided streets now as you look to find a seat.
When every wolf is at your door, just like a hundred times before,
But you don’t want to see the end.

Chorus

And I really didn’t want that push today,
No, I really didn’t want to end this way.
But the things that seem to bind us,
Are the things we put behind us on this day.

Chorus x 2

Alex Lloyd -
Amazing (Music Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSFe_z3czVE

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alex Lloyd
(born Alex Wasiliev
in Sydney, November 1974)

Lloyd was born "Alex Wasiliev"
but adopted his mother's maiden name
"Lloyd" in tribute, following her death....
sorry Alex, but, BULLFUCK!

For 'some reason', in OZ, we love to pretend that we don't have
many people from "Those Jewish Places"...despite/BECAUSE of,
how INFLUENTIAL they are here, and Alex, "WASILIEV",
is just TOO POLISH/JEWISH to 'make it' in this most,
ANTI-ANYONE NOT WHITE ANGLO nation...
and YOU & WE KNOW THAT, ALL TOO WELL!

is an Australian singer-songwriter.

His most popular album
Watching Angels Mend,
which includes the songs
Amazing
and
Green,
was released in 2001 went double platinum.

His third album
Distant Light
released in 2003 featured three songs
that made the Australian top 40 singles charts.

He has also won two ARIA awards for
"Male Artist of the Year" in 2000 and 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Lloyd


And guess who's also
"In The News", NOW,
while we're being reminded of
The WAR ON OUR SOIL,
The VICTORIA FIRES...

Alex Lloyd wins
last semi-final spot
on Celebrity MasterChef

AAP

November 05, 2009 12:00am

Alex Lloyd
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7139901,00.jpg
Winners are grinners ...

Alex Lloyd / John Grainger

* Singer's dessert sealed the deal
* New album in the pipeline


SINGER songwriter Alex Lloyd has overcome the pressure to bag the last semi-final spot on Celebrity MasterChef.

Lloyd beat comedian Peter Rowsthorn and Video Hits host Faustina 'Fuzzy' Agolley in the amateur cooking contest, on Network Ten, impressing the judges with an elaborate sponge/ice-cream/ strawberry and tuille pastry dessert.

"The one thing I was dreading about the show was dessert," Lloyd told.

"When my wife and I cook at home, she always cooks the dessert, she's the meticulous, neat, tidy kind of medical scientist, I'm the messy, happy go lucky creative dude."

It was far from easy for Lloyd.

His first dish, a prawn and ricotta ravioli, didn't go down well with the judges.

And, in the challenge test, Lloyd - who suffers dyslexia - had trouble following the recipe.

"I find if there's a lot of distractions or there's a pressure situation, I suffer a little bit," he said.

Related Coverage

* Alex wins last MasterChef semi-final spot
Daily Telegraph, 4 Nov 2009
* Celebrity chef Evans still sizzling
NEWS.com.au, 2 Nov 2009
* Kitchen kids to feel the heat
The Australian, 2 Nov 2009
* Finch-fried judges
Herald Sun, 29 Oct 2009
* Rachael's more than a good looker
Daily Telegraph, 29 Oct 2009

"The show is quite stressful,
it's quite full on."

Lloyd now goes into the semi-final, against the likes of
Miss Universe Australia Rachael Finch,
cricketer Simon Katich,
INXS muso and vocalist Kirk Pengilly,
Biggest Loser trainer Michelle Bridges and
swimmer Eamon Sullivan.

Outside MasterChef, Lloyd,
who's based in the UK,
is planning to get started on another album,
and put behind him the court case,
which he won last month,
in which he was accused of stealing
his 2001 hit song Amazing.

"It was a weird thing to have to go through in the first place,
but it's good that it's over now," Lloyd said.

The ARIA award-winning musician
is also set to star as a singing mechanic
in the Australian movie
Mad Bastards.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 04:43 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6509028,00.jpg
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6509017,00.jpg
37 still missing since February 7
Victoria fires: In-depth coverage
Tragic total: Revised death toll by area
February 19, 2009 05:47pm
THE official death toll in Victoria's bushfires
has risen to
208,
with firefighter David Balfour
killed near Marysville
added to those we have lost.....BUT...BUT...

this the hot link from tonight's UPDATED news,
yet we read elsewhere today that the total is
210....
+
37
=
247
http://www.beastcoins.com/Art/AthensLogo.gif
Coinage of Alexandria-Egypt
http://www.beastcoins.com/RomanProvincial/Egypt-Alexandria/Z5894.jpg
Otacilia Severa, AE Tetradrachm,
246/247 (Year 4 of Philip I),
Egypt-Alexandria

208
+
37
=
245
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Philip the Arab
Emperor of the Roman Empire
Reign 244 - 249
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Otacilia_Severa-l4Scythica.jpg
Coin of Marcia Otacilia Severa,
wife of Philip.
The Greek legend states she received
the title of Augusta.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_the_Arab

I did WARN that;
we would NOT escape CORRECTION,
and that CHILDREN WOULD BE TARGETED,
and of 'which arm of Rome's Soldiers'
would get to DO THE DIRTY...
and IT HAPPENED!

The BLOOD IS ON THE HEAD OF
THOSE WHO HEARD, BUT STILL,
DIDN'T TURN FROM DOING THE EVIL.

part 2 next...

vera susa
07-11-2009, 04:44 AM
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bg_photos/010.jpg


Oh, it TIES RIGHT IN!

In The District of
THE VICTORIA FIRES,
so much WORSE than the TITANIC disaster....

DUTCH CONTROLLED

FRIESIAN

BLACK STALLION

GROVEBORN TITAN

http://www.afwhs.com/images/titan-studs.jpg


Ronald Reagan,
Glenn T. Seaborg and
Richard Nixon at the
Bohemian Grove
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Reagon-nixon.jpg
Screenshot from
Martial Law:
9/11 Rise of the Police State,
featuring
Reagon and nixon
at the Bohemian Grove.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/images/grove/Owl%20Dollar.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/starlake01/BGROVE.jpg

http://www.jonesreport.com/images/I0038560A_med.jpg

http://www.treasonnation.com/images/sup/ss/BohemianGrove1906.jpg
Bohemian Grove 1906

http://piratenews.org/deesbohemian.jpg

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There has been
NO MORE TITANIC
SACRIFICE BY FIRE
in THE GROVES
than VICTORIA'S.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bg_photos/010.jpg



So anyone starting to see WHY
"They" HAD TO
'make it about, and TRASH me',
THE POSTER who IS NOT HIDING
THE SECRET The Conspiracy INDUSTRY
WAS DESIGNED TO HIDE...

...If you IGNORE 'me',
YOU MISS THE WARNINGS and
The ONLY SAVING TRUTH...

Psalm 127
A song of ascents. Of Solomon.

1 Unless the LORD builds the house,
its builders labor in vain.
Unless the LORD watches over the city,
the watchmen stand guard in vain.

2 In vain you rise early
and stay up late,
toiling for food to eat—
for he grants sleep to [a] those he loves.

3 Sons are a heritage from the LORD,
children a reward from him.

4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
are sons born in one's youth.

5 Blessed is the man
whose quiver is full of them.
They will not be put to shame
when they contend with their enemies in the gate.

Footnotes:

1. Psalm 127:2 Or eat—/ for while they sleep he provides for


Psalm 130
A song of ascents.

1 Out of the depths I cry to you, O LORD;

2 O Lord, hear my voice.
Let your ears be attentive
to my cry for mercy.

3 If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins,
O Lord, who could stand?

4 But with you there is forgiveness;
therefore you are feared.

5 I wait for the LORD, my soul waits,
and in his word I put my hope.

6 My soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen wait for the morning,
more than watchmen wait for the morning.

7 O Israel, put your hope in the LORD,
for with the LORD is unfailing love
and with him is full redemption.

8 He himself will redeem Israel
from all their sins.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 05:15 AM
Now REMEMBER,
The AMAZON IS and ALWAYS WAS GREATER
in length and volume, than the Nile...but 'they'
ONLY ADMITTED IT RECENTLY...in fact, EVERYTHING
about that ANCIENT LAND, BLESSED by ANCIENT ISRAEL,
UNTIL MOSES LED ISRAEL OUT,
was GREATER than anything in Egypt...a poor,
cheap, MODERN COPY of better days in a better place...

...and anyway,
there is NO NILE mentioned in God's Word,
every time you read 'Nile'
it's an UNNAMED RIVER and CANALS...

...also REMEMBER that God described that land as
being taken over by jungle and it's creatures, still
a problem today...

...while The Glorious Land Israel moved to
was utterly destroyed to the point of
HAVING THE SOIL WASHED AWAY...
...after JOSHUA died and Israel FORGOT GOD...

...and THEN moved on to Asia & Africa...

WHICH ALL FITS WHAT SEEING EYES
CAN SEE TODAY!


Google to publicize Mexico’s historical sites
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mexico.png
Google has signed an agreement with
Mexico’s National Institute of Anthropology and History
to promote archaeological and historial sites on Google Earth.

The government agency said it is working on
more interactive and virtual tours,
including 360-degree and rotating videos
of pyramids and other sites.

The Institute’s 173 archeological sites
and 116 museums were closed for more than a week
at the height of the swine flu epidemic,
but reopened in early May.

Tourism plunged following the outbreak.
The Tourism Department said Tuesday that occupancy rates
had fallen as low as nine to 12 per cent
at the country’s nine biggest tourism sites one month ago,
but has since recovered to about 43 per cent.

You might also like:

A lost Aztec tomb may lie under Mexico City
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/monolith.png
Old Japanese Maps On Google Earth Unveil Secrets
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/untitled-5.jpg
Mayan altar found during highway construction in Mexico
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/altar.jpg
16th century convent re-emerges in Mexico
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/convent.jpg
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/2009/06/23/google-to-publicize-mexicos-historical-sites/

Archaeologists Excavate
Ancient Maya River Port
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/maya1.jpg
A Mayan river port of Moral-Reforma
was almost unknown until a group of archaeologists
began excavating it three months ago.

When one climbs up the first 15 steps of the pyramid,
one can see a series of altars discovered in recent weeks
which “surely were painted and plastered,” according to the expert.

Masks, small sculptures, stones, spear points and
heads painted green comprise the 23 pieces
unearthed in the area adjacent to the pyramid.

“This morning, we found another little face of a person.
These pieces are of limestone, flint, the same material
with which the pyramids are made,”
said Lopez during a stroll through the ruins.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 05:28 AM
Damn, but I'm still too much of a Ludite
to use this site properly...HELP!
It's TOO full of what's TOO IGNORED
to not try to use...

20 fascinating ancient maps
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/map1.jpg
Free.edu has posted an interesting list
showcasing 20 fascinating ancient maps
and why they are cool.

Modern and Completely Correct
Map of the Entire World
Creator: Joan Blaeu
Date: 1659

Why it’s cool:
Modern at the time, yes.
Completely correct, not so much.
The map reveals the limitations of knowledge
regarding the west coast of North America,
the Arctic, and New Holland
(present-day Australia).
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/2009/08/31/20-fascinating-ancient-maps/

vera susa
07-11-2009, 05:35 AM
120,000-year-old stone tools found in Japan
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/japan.jpg
The oldest stone tools ever found in Japan
have been discovered in Shimane prefecture
in Western Japan.

The tools, which had been sharpened like knives,
date from the Middle Palaeolithic period,
according to Kazuto Matsufuji,
a professor at Kyoto’s Doshisha University,
the newspaper said.

The oldest stone tools previously found in Japan
were less than 100,000 years old, the Yomiuri said.

In 2000, archeologist Shinichi Fujimura claimed he had found
artifacts as old as 700,000 years old
in the northern prefecture of Miyagi.
He later confessed he fabricated the discovery.

Old Japanese Maps
On Google Earth
Unveil Secrets
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/untitled-5.jpg
Recently Google added historical maps of Japan
as a layer to their Google Earth software,
never realizing the controversy it would cause
(sorry, but: BULLSHIT!)
as it shows the locations of form low-caste communities.

Castes have long since been abolished,
and the old buraku villages have largely faded away
or been swallowed by Japan’s sprawling metropolises.

Today, rights groups say the descendants of burakumin
make up about 3 million of the country’s 127 million people.

But they still face prejudice,
based almost entirely on where they live
or their ancestors lived.

Moving is little help,
because employers or parents of potential spouses
can hire agencies to check for buraku ancestry
through Japan’s elaborate family records,
which can span back over a hundred years.
http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/2009/05/03/old-japanese-maps-on-google-earth-unveil-secrets/

vera susa
07-11-2009, 05:55 AM
I've always said,
"TIME BELONGS TO GOD",
and as so often happens,
when I realise that I'm
getting lost in history again,
I click on Today's News and...



World Breaking News

Dinosaurs roamed
New Zealand's south

Agence France-Presse

November 07, 2009 02:07pm


Scientists have discovered the first evidence that dinosaurs roamed the South Island of New Zealand with 70-million-year-old footprints found in six locations.

They are the first dinosaur footprints found in the country although bones, mostly vertebrae, have been discovered in two North Island locations.

The footprints were found by scientist Greg Browne in the remote Whanganui Inlet in the northwest of Nelson at the top of the South Island.

They are spread over 10 kilometres and in one area there are up to 20 footprints, Mr Browne said.

Mr Browne, a sedimentologist, believes the footprints belonged to sauropods – plant-eating dinosaurs which were among the largest animals to have lived, growing up to six metres in length and weighing several tonnes.

He said he carefully considered all possible geological and biological explanations for the features in the rock and was able to rule them out one by one.

His investigation included comparisons with dinosaur footprints in similar-aged rocks in other parts of the world.

The footprints were made in beach sands and were probably quickly covered and preserved by mud from subsequent tides.

Related Coverage

* Planes to burn biofuels by 2010
Perth Now, 24 Oct 2009
* World's largest fossil prints
The Australian, 8 Oct 2009
* Dino footprints enter record books
NEWS.com.au, 7 Oct 2009
* Family handbook
The Australian, 29 Aug 2009
* Dead critter country
The Australian, 18 Jul 2009
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26317524-23109,00.html

”What makes this discovery special is the unique preservation of the footprints in an environment where they could easily have been destroyed by waves, tides, or wind,” Mr Browne said.

As with much of New Zealand, northwest Nelson was largely submerged between 70 and 20 million years ago and the footprints would have been covered by hundreds of metres of marine sediments.

However, after the country was uplifted and northwest Nelson emerged from the sea, the overlying sedimentary rock has been eroded away over the past 20 million years to expose the footprints again,Mr Browne said....

...JUST LIKE GOD SAID,
FROM THE BEGINNING!

vera susa
07-11-2009, 06:28 AM
Murdoch unfazed by Rudd's criticism

Posted 5 hours 20 minutes ago
Updated 4 hours 38 minutes ago

Mr Murdoch says Mr Rudd is not necessarily
more thin-skinned than any of his predecessors.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200811/r309342_1358257.jpg
Mr Murdoch says Mr Rudd is not necessarily
more thin-skinned than any of his predecessors.
(AAP: Paul Miller)

* Related Story: News Corp profits rise, online charges delayed
* Related Story: Murdoch warns Google: it's time to pay
* Related Story: ABC boss takes swipe at 'emperor' Murdoch
* Related Story: Murdoch spruiks newspaper confidence
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736084.htm

News Corporation head Rupert Murdoch says Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is more outspoken in criticising the media than his predecessors.

Mr Rudd has not been shy about suggesting News Limited is running a vendetta against him.

In the past he has criticised the media organisation's coverage in several stories, including scrutiny of the Education Revolution and the OzCar affair.

But Mr Murdoch has told Sky news the Prime Minister is not necessarily more thin-skinned than any of his predecessors.

"He expresses his complaints more vociferously and faster
but no I think they're all pretty much the same," he said.

The media mogul also weighed into
the recently-revived debate
on immigration, saying that
Australia needs to be
more welcoming of asylum seekers.

Mr Murdoch used the interview to defend a move to start charging f
or access to the company's online content.

The new policy was announced in August and has been attacked by ABC managing director Mark Scott, who called it the classic play of an empire in decline.

But the media mogul says online media content
should never have been completely free.

"It costs us a lot of money to put together good newspapers
and good content," he said.

"And they're very happy to pay for it when they buy a newspaper,
and I think when they read it elsewhere they're going to have to pay.

"[It won't cost] huge sums -
you'll be surprised at how much can be done,
how cheaply, into the average home."

Tags: business-economics-and-finance, industry, media, information-and-communication, internet, australia

vera susa
07-11-2009, 06:39 AM
Yep, seems everything is COMING
UP, OUT, BACK and HOME....

Big interest in a grand old dame
BY KIM STEPHENS
6/11/2009 11:31:00 PM


SHE may come with a
$20 million price tag,
but the grand old dame of
regional Victorian real estate,
Elaine's historic Larundel,
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/large/636448.jpg
has been attracting potential buyers
from across the globe.

Selling agent Jock Langley,
director of Melbourne-based
Abercromby's Real Estate,
said the luxury 1012 hectare estate
was without peer in Victoria.

It was officially listed for sale this week after the agency
had been receiving expressions of interest since late last year.

"We have been fielding inquiries from
right throughout Europe, the Middle East, Asia
and the rest of the world," he said.

"As a lifestyle property, it's hard to beat.
Our view is it could set a record for a Victorian rural property.
I haven't seen anything like it anywhere in the country."

Larundel's stately nine-bedroom,
six-bathroom homestead was constructed
in the 1870s by estate founder
AAA Austin
and has undergone many years of
painstaking restoration
to return it to its former glory.

Mr Langley said no expense has been spared
in the internal restoration, which had been done
under the expert guidance of internationally acclaimed
interior designer John Coote,
who has been at the helm of a number of
notable English manor restorations.

He said the present owners, Paul and Gabrielle Peat,
have put much work into the property
since purchasing it six years ago, but planned to downsize.

More than 20 hectares of
meticulously planned gardens
designed by renowned landscape designer Paul Bangay
frame the home, which comes complete with
a helipad and
private hangar in the Docklands,
an airstrip,
a 4000 bottle wine cellar,
a polo field,
croquet lawns,
a tennis court and
creek access.

Originally a large-scale fine wool production property,
the vast grounds are now used predominantly for cropping and grazing.

Mr Langley said although the property had been informally offered for sale since late last year, the owners had decided the time was now right to officially list it.

"From a timing perspective there is not a better time than now,
there's a real focus on country properties still from foreign investment
and there is a real shortage of good rural properties available in the country,"
he said.

"Interest thus far has been terrific,
so we would be expecting it to sell for
somewhere between 18 and 20 million

"It could be a local (Australian buyer)
but we are of the opinion the purchaser
will come from abroad."

Expressions of interest for Larundel close on November 27.

Just above the A300
about 15 minutes from
our place at YENDON.
http://www.chockstone.org/Meredith/Map.gif

vera susa
07-11-2009, 08:07 AM
Right now some may recall, from that other thread,
my updates on the activities of OUR ENEMIES WITHIN...

you know, WHORES who TRAIN their CHILDREN to
get about in HOODIES and BEAT PEOPLE INTO HOSPITAL,
recently taken to wearing SKELETON Images...

WHORES who PRETEND to be 'chronically sick'
as COVER TO GET DEEPLY PERSONAL INFORMATION
from OTHER WHORES who 'work' in Hospitals,
to USE AGAINST their TARGETS...

...like finding out
WHICH DRUGS ARE HARMFUL to them,
before 'friendly' social occasions with
lots of food and drink around ...

AND TELLING the HOSPITAL WHORES,
WHO THEY WANT MISS-treated, for oh say,
BEATINGS BY THOSE WHORES and their
THUG TRAINED KIDS...so that nearly
6 months later your head's still broken...

Well, another reminder to 'them' that
it is NOT too late to repent and sin no more...

Esther 4
Mordecai Persuades Esther to Help

1 When Mordecai learned of all that had been done, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and ashes, and went out into the city, wailing loudly and bitterly. 2 But he went only as far as the king's gate, because no one clothed in sackcloth was allowed to enter it. 3 In every province to which the edict and order of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing. Many lay in sackcloth and ashes.

4 When Esther's maids and eunuchs came and told her about Mordecai, she was in great distress. She sent clothes for him to put on instead of his sackcloth, but he would not accept them. 5 Then Esther summoned Hathach, one of the king's eunuchs assigned to attend her, and ordered him to find out what was troubling Mordecai and why.

6 So Hathach went out to Mordecai in the open square of the city in front of the king's gate. 7 Mordecai told him everything that had happened to him, including the exact amount of money Haman had promised to pay into the royal treasury for the destruction of the Jews. 8 He also gave him a copy of the text of the edict for their annihilation, which had been published in Susa, to show to Esther and explain it to her, and he told him to urge her to go into the king's presence to beg for mercy and plead with him for her people.

9 Hathach went back and reported to Esther what Mordecai had said. 10 Then she instructed him to say to Mordecai, 11 "All the king's officials and the people of the royal provinces know that for any man or woman who approaches the king in the inner court without being summoned the king has but one law: that he be put to death. The only exception to this is for the king to extend the gold scepter to him and spare his life. But thirty days have passed since I was called to go to the king."

12 When Esther's words were reported to Mordecai, 13 he sent back this answer: "Do not think that because you are in the king's house you alone of all the Jews will escape. 14 For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father's family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to royal position for such a time as this?"

15 Then Esther sent this reply to Mordecai: 16 "Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my maids will fast as you do. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. And if I perish, I perish."

17 So Mordecai went away and carried out all of Esther's instructions.

...Oh, she didn't perish...
Haman got the Gallows he built
to kill Mordecai on...

...and Esther an ORPHAN, REPLACED
SELFISH BITCH QUEEN VASHTI...

but then Esther was born with
The SPIRIT of a REAL Queen,
one who WOULD DIE for Her KINGDOM,
NOT SLAUGHTER for PERSONAL 'glory'
like Haman and those
HINDU KALI WORSHIPPERS
STILL DO TODAY!


ORLANDO SHOOTING

Killer = Jason Rodriguez



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33726074/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

Neshby anagram of Benshy

Benshy, Banshy, Banshee:

The Banshee (pronounced /ˈbænʃiː/, BAN-shee), from the Irish bean sídhe ("woman of the síde" or "woman of the fairy mounds") is a female spirit in Irish mythology, usually seen as an omen of death and a messenger from the Otherworld. Her Scottish counterpart is the bean shìth (also spelled bean-shìdh).
The aos sí (people of the mounds, people of peace) are variously believed to be the survivals of pre-Christian Gaelic deities, spirits of nature, or the ancestors. Some Theosophists and Celtic Christians have referred to the aos sí as "fallen angels".
The story of the bean-sidhe began as a fairy woman keening at the death of important persons. In later stories the appearance of the banshee could foretell the death. Banshees were said to appear for particular Irish families, though which families made it onto this list varied depending on who was telling the story.

The banshee can appear in a variety of guises. Most often she appears as an ugly, frightening hag, but can also appear as a stunningly beautiful woman of any age that suits her. In some tales, the figure who first appears to be a "banshee" is later revealed to be the Irish battle goddess, the Morrígan. The hag may also appear as a washer-woman, or bean-nighe (washing woman), and is seen washing the blood stained clothes or armour of those who are about to die.

Although not always seen, her mourning call is heard, usually at night when someone is about to die and usually around woods. In 1437, King James I of Scotland was approached by an Irish seer or banshee who foretold his murder at the instigation of the Earl of Atholl. This is an example of the banshee in human form. There are records of several human banshees or prophets attending the great houses of Ireland and the courts of local Irish kings. In some parts of Leinster, she is referred to as the bean chaointe (keening woman) whose wail can be so piercing that it shatters glass. In Kerry in the southwest of Ireland, her keen is experienced as a "low, pleasant singing"; in Tyrone in the north, as "the sound of two boards being struck together"; and on Rathlin Island as "a thin, screeching sound somewhere between the wail of a woman and the moan of an owl".

The banshee may also appear in a variety of other forms, such as that of a Hooded Crow, stoat, hare and weasel - animals associated in Ireland with witchcraft.
Banshees are frequently described as dressed in white or grey, and often having long, fair hair which they brush with a silver comb, a detail scholar Patricia Lysaght attributes to confusion with local mermaid myths


Fine,
INSULT the readers...

...but you DO REALISE,
that I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT,
Except for PRIVATE,
"CRYPTIC" WARNINGS to,
NOT DO EVIL,
UNTIL OTHERS TOLD ME
just HOW OBVIOUS
YOUR THREATS ARE!

psst...now you now why 'they' HATED
my, "LIVE FROM THE FRONT" Reporting...

...can't right me off as 'paranoid'
when COMPLETE STRANGERS SEE
The CLEARLY PERSONAL LINKS...





Are you F****G serious??
Are you contuning betraying?

Judas? [B](VERA SUSA)
THERE IS NO END
TO YOUR BETRAYAL NO?


NO, NO BETRAYAL, FROM ME...;)
YEARS OF WARNING ALL
"Playing" THE LOSERS "Game"...

Now from 8-2-2009,
during the
VICTORIA FIRES,
3 1/2 months before
the attempted murder

Well, looks like I have to become,
"self-centred"...so busy looking out
for what's important to the world,
that I totally overlooked
tintin's
"warnings" or predictions of what
was being orchestrated against me,
OVER A YEAR AGO,
that HAS come to pass...and the DETAIL!

Full names,
Right down to middle names
of 'Players',
their occupations, pass times, tastes.

It was something about today's posts,
that made me look back 12 months
(when I didn't even know these people
to recognise, but they DID know me,
and other 'certain' people who've given me
nothing but HELL),
then I recalled more recent posts that
did read like personal warnings I sort of
recognised at the time, but didn't see
myself as 'important' enough to think it
anything other than, 'coincidence induced paranoia',
after the initial 'wet fish in the face' shock,
of first reading them.

Well the recent round of
lies and 'secrets' I've been assaulted with,
made me have to admit something 'spooky':
seems it is 'important' to "Someone" that
I DIE SOON, preferably "at my own hand"
after a total meltdown...and so, leave these
readers of very near 2 Million views, feeling,
"Duped By A Nutter" and so, PRIMED to,
BOW TO BEAST.

But being sane enough to know that I am only an old mother
and even top level spies can be broken with the right 'tools',
I can't keep fobbing off the 'tools' being employed against me,
as they are some of the most effective at 'dismantling' anyone
with a forgiving heart, who's thankful for small mercies...that
gradually become so small, they become MURDEROUS CRUELTIES.

tintin, I don't know if you knew there were
VERY PERSONAL WARNINGS for me in your posts,
but right now I fear more FOR those hurting me
BUT SERVING Those BETRAYING THEM.

WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
INTO BELIEVING THEY, 'ARE ALREADY DAMNED',
and so, 'DAMN' OTHERS OUT OF PAIN.

Guys, you who believe that I am your enemy:
LOVE GIVES.
It doesn't trade, swap, sell, it gives, forgives
and does NOT SEEK VENGEANCE/RETRIBUTION
but trusts God's Justice...so PLEASE, for your sakes,
stop compounding sin upon sin,
SERVING THOSE BETRAYING YOU, by BETRAYING
the one LOVINGLY, though imperfectly, WARNING YOU.

So many people are having so much 'fun', laughing
at what I've been giving someone I love, NONGS!

I'm GIVING to ALL OF THEM, a free education.

One day, we will all have to choose to
LOVE and LIVE or LIE and DIE, FOREVER.

And if only one of these people remember
the difference between receiving
the LOVE of IMperfect manKIND
and
the COLD CUNNING of 'PERFECTLY' INhumane beings,
they could be inspired to seek,
THE PERFECT LOVE of Our Creator God,
and LIVE, FOREVER HEALED and HAPPY.


Yep, just like the
PINK, CHILD'S SHOE with BUTTERFLY image
from the CHINA EARTHQUAKES,
these fires still have to used to
"Speak to Brothers & Sisters"...

77...

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479429,00.jpg
A sign

outside a burnt-out property

at Kinglake.

Picture: Craig Hughes

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479406,00.jpg
A lone house survives
in an area burnt in fires at Callignee.
Picture: Tim Carrafa

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479383,00.jpg
The intensity of the fires must have been unimaginable.
Picture:Craig Borrow
(but I still see those,
"TOES OF IRON & CLAY")

>http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479391,00.jpg<
9
19
9
The devastated township of Marysville.
Picture courtesy Keith Pakenham CFA Public Affairs


http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479399,00.jpg
Marisa Pegorao, whose husband
Dino hired a chopper to check their property and found their neighbour alive in a paddock.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479380,00.jpg
Kinglake residents
Rod and Maryanne Mercuri
and their children Allyson, 11, and
twin sons Dean and Kirk, both 9,
survived the deadly fire.
(numbers and
WEST COAST CHOPPERS)

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478402,00.jpg
At the Whittlesea relief centre -
Kane Ronchi, 6 from Flowerdale,
collects a wiggles toothbrush, toothpaste,
a yo-yo and a Dora the Explorer money box
from the donations.
He is wearing motorcycle gumboots
that are far too big but he refuses to take them off.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6477473,00.jpg
A motorbike lays on the Heidelberg-Kinglake Rd
in the Arthur's Creek/ St Andrews Area.
It is believed that the rider of the bike
was found deceased near the crash scene.
Picture: Darren Tindale

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6478554,00.jpg
Army troops at Broadford
prepare to head to the fire front
to set up containment lines.
Picture: Ian Currie

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Up to 40 homes were lost in Eaglehawk, Bendigo.
The destruction at Sparrowhawk Road, Long Gully.
Picture: Mike Keating




Now within the next
30 odd pages from here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1233
you WILL SEE 'them' FLOODING OVER
this GLOBALLY IMPORTANT NEWS...

...then when I finally DO get ANGRY
at 'their' OBVIOUS ORDERS to
BURY THE IMPORTANCE and MEANING,
'they' start The LIE that 'I' want attention!

FFS!!! THESE ARE MY FELLOW
COUNTRYMEN, WOMEN & CHILDREN
and IT ISN'T OVER YET...

while those
BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS
plan to 'CLEAR MORE OF OUT' of
OUR PRIME REAL ESTATE !

vera susa
07-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Illegal fishers escape the spotlight
ANDREW DARBY
November 7, 2009

HOBART:
The Rudd Government has pulled plans
to publicise the discovery of
massive illegal fishing nets in the Antarctic
while the ship that found them,
Oceanic Viking,
is under a different spotlight.

Bottom-set gillnets are presenting a new crisis in Australia's regional waters. Laid by foreign fishers, they form a ''curtain of death'' on the deep-sea floor.

But plans to expose the quantity of illegal nets found by the customs vessel on fisheries patrol have been sidelined.

Oceanic Viking found nets totalling 130 kilometres in length on Banzare Bank in the Southern Ocean earlier this year, sources told the Herald yesterday.

Use of the nets is outlawed by the 25-nation Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources, but rich pickings of Patagonian toothfish are leading illegal fishers to set them anyway.

The Government had planned to publicise the finds at a meeting of the commission in Hobart this week. But while the Oceanic Viking was caught up in Indonesia with Sri Lankan asylum seekers, the Opposition began to ask why it was not doing its fisheries job.

In April the vessel found nets of five to nine kilometres in length but did not have the gear to pull them up. So it called on a licensed fishing vessel nearby, owned by Austral Fisheries of Perth, which recovered 29 tonnes of toothfish, a bycatch of skate, and about 10 kilometres of net. The rest was ripped up and sunk.

Glenn Sant, the global marine program leader at TRAFFIC, a wildlife trade monitoring network, said the discovery was devastating for the marine environment in the commission area.

''These nets are actually an invisible curtain of death for everything that swims into them,'' he said. ''The nets kill indiscriminately, and if they are lost they keep killing as ghost nets.''

A spokesman for the federal Fisheries Minister, Tony Burke, said he had no comment on the discovery, but the sources said a joint announcement by customs and the Australian Fisheries Management Authority was ready to be made this week.

The Opposition fisheries spokesman, Richard Colbeck, asked who was patrolling and protecting Australia's fisheries while Oceanic Viking was caught in the asylum seeker ''mess''.

Mr Burke said Australian officials would take up with the European Union the discovery of Spanish fishermen in the Tasman Sea with the same type of nets.

The Spanish are exploiting a gap in the fisheries zone boundaries of Australia and New Zealand, where endangered sharks migrate. Nets have been set for two seasons, an environment assessment by the Spanish Government disclosed.

''As fish stocks are increasingly depleted worldwide, fleets such as Spain's are scanning the farthest seas for stocks left in unguarded patches,'' Mr Sant said.

A Spanish Government assessment concluded that the nets would have very low impact on deep water corals and sponges.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/department/annual_report/2006_2007/images/territories-countries-duo.jpg
The map shows the
geographical spread of
Australia's territories.
Christmas and Cocos (Keeling) Islands
are as far from Perth
as the Antarctic ice cap is from Hobart.
(Image DOTARS)

Background Briefing
28 June 2009
Australia's ocean territory
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/2009/2607136.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/galleries/2009/2607136/thumbs/hobart-april-09-226.jpg

... just one part of far broader changes
sweeping across Australia's vast ocean domain.

Australia's blue territory
is one of the biggest in the world.

From the tropical north, all the way to
the freezing waters of Antarctica,
Australia's maritime area
stretches across three oceans,
the Pacific, the Indian, and
the Southern Oceans.

So why has the UN just agreed to
make that territory a whole lot bigger?

Australia has been allowed to claim
and extra two and a half million
square kilometres of seabed.

That's ten times the size of New Zealand.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 10:29 AM
The man HAS LOST THE PLOT!:D:p

These "conservatives" he refers to
ARE THE LAND OWNING FARMERS.;)

They AGREED TO LIE expecting a cut of
the power and profits, then realised that :eek:
those BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS
DON'T WANT TO SHARE OUR COUNTRY
WITH US, they only want it FOR THEMSELVES! :mad:

And that,
''new league of
world government
conspiracy theorists'',
are those of us who KNOW
that The Conspiracy INDUSTRY
is yet another WEAPON of
Those BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS!


Rudd blames climate sceptics
for global sabotage
ADAM MORTON AND DANIEL FLITTON
November 7, 2009

KEVIN Rudd has
launched a full frontal assault
on global warming sceptics,
lumping Opposition Leader
Malcolm Turnbull
in with a
''new league of
world government
conspiracy theorists''
he accuses of
sabotaging progress
on a climate treaty.

The attack came as senior politicians conceded a treaty
to cut greenhouse gas emissions is not possible this year,
and will be delayed at least six months.

Wealthy nations said the best hope for next month's Copenhagen climate summit was a ''politically binding'' agreement, setting out timelines and emissions targets for rich nations, as well as funding for poor nations to adapt to climate impacts.

The pessimism followed a week in which
50 African nations briefly walked out
of UN climate talks in Barcelona,
accusing the leaders of wealthy nations -
including, by name, Mr Rudd -
of not doing enough to cut emissions.

''I don't think we can get a legally binding agreement by Copenhagen -
I think that we can get that within a year after Copenhagen,"
UN climate chief Yvo de Boer said.

Climate Change Minister Penny Wong said
the minimum result for Copenhagen
to be considered a success would be
''an effective political agreement''.

Yesterday the Prime Minister
accused conservative politicians
and media commentators of
''quite literally
holding the world to ransom,
provoking fear campaigns
in every country they can''.

Speaking in Sydney, he said climate sceptics came in several guises:
from those in outright denial - comparing them with cigarette companies
that dismissed a link between smoking and lung cancer - to those who
paid lip service to the scientific evidence but preached a wait-and-see
response. ''It's time to remove any polite veneer from this debate,''
Mr Rudd said. ''The stakes are that high.''

''If Copenhagen does not deliver
the outcome we so urgently need,
no individual climate change sceptic will be responsible,
but each of them will have played their part.''

He said Mr Turnbull's refusal to back
the proposed emissions trading scheme
was evidence of entrenched scepticism
in conservative politics.

The speech came as negotiations continue over amendments
to the emissions trading scheme. Senator Wong confirmed
the Government would not accept all the Opposition's proposals
due to updated Treasury costings revealing a massive shortfall
in revenue from the scheme.

Mr Turnbull dismissed Mr Rudd's attack as an attempt to
distract attention from the controversy over border protection policy.
''He ought to calm down and concentrate on the negotiations,''
Mr Turnbull said.

This week's UN climate meeting was the last before the
Copenhagen conference. Observers believe a legal treaty
may be possible at a second Copenhagen meeting in mid-2010
or at another UN summit in Mexico next December.

The US this week tried to push responsibility for the perceived failure of climate talks on to China. Its chief climate envoy, Todd Stern, said the US would not agree to emissions targets unless China made similar moves.

But a new analysis suggests developing countries are acting. Consultants Ecofys found major developing nations are on track to slow their emissions growth by more than 20 per cent by 2020.

This meets one of the Rudd Government's conditions for Australia to set a target of a 25 per cent cut in emissions by 2020. But the condition that Australia wants other rich nations to meet - that they agree to cut emissions by at least 25 per cent in total - has not been met.

With AGENCIES

vera susa
07-11-2009, 11:11 AM
O.K., this makes me ANGRY...
at the same time that "They" are
pushing Vietnam as "better" than OZ,
"they" go to A LOT of trouble to HIDE
the HIGH Number of DEATHS simply
from living in these UNSTABLE LANDS...


Landslide kills 13 in Vietnam

07 November 2009 | 05:55:09 PM | Source: AAP

At least 13 people have been killed
in a landslide in central Vietnam
following storms and flooding that
have now left almost 130 people dead,
officials said on Saturday.

The 13 were killed
and another person was seriously injured
in the early hours of Friday in the coastal province
of Quang Nam, local emergency official Vo Xuan Quang told AFP.

The landslide, triggered by rains that have lashed the country
since tropical storm Mirinae hit on Monday,
dumped thousands of tonnes of earth and mud
on a group of gold miners, who were sleeping at the time,
Quang said.

The storm and flooding that followed
have left another 116 people dead,
most of them in the country's
easternmost province of Phu Yen.

Mirinae also killed two people
in Vietnam's neighbour Cambodia
and left 27 people dead in the Philippines,
where thousands are still living in evacuation centres
after a series of deadly storms this typhoon season.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 11:39 AM
So why isn't this HUGE all over "Conspiracy Land"....

....oh that's right, because The Conspiracy INDUSTRY,
is yet ANOTHER TOOL of ROME'S for SELLING THE LIE!


A royal chapel for Roman Catholics

One must hope that when our next king
swears his Coronation oath,
the Church of England will still figure in it,
says Christopher Howse.


by Christopher Howse
Published: 7:19PM GMT 06 Nov 2009

The Queen's Chapel is a mysterious place.
To be sure, it is open for services,
but these take place only on Sundays
between Easter and the end of July.
It is locked the rest of the time.

A remarkable claim in a new book by David Baldwin
is that the monarch can
turn it over to the ministrations of
the Roman Catholic Church
for any members of the Royal family
who care to receive them.

One might have thought such provisions would have been quashed
by the Act of Settlement of 1701, which forbade heirs to the Crown
to marry Catholics. But in Royal Prayer (Continuum, £16.99),
Mr Baldwin demonstrates that
the Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1661
is still in force and kicking.

The treaty was made for the marriage of
Charles II and Catherine of Braganza ,
and stipulated that
"Her Majesty and whole Family
shall enjoy the free exercise of
the Roman Catholic religion,
and to that purpose shall have a Chapel,
or some other place,
set apart for the exercise thereof".

The Queen's Chapel had been built for an earlier queen,
or rather for a near-miss. In 1623, James I's heir Charles
(who was to become Charles I) set off to win the hand of
the late King of Spain's daughter.
Inigo Jones was commissioned to build a daringly modern
neoclassical chapel at St James's Palace
for the Infanta Maria to use as Queen of England.

Charles arrived home in England after seven months,
with the gift of two Titians and a realisation that
the marriage would not come off.
But the Chapel proved handy after he married
16-year-old Princess Henrietta Maria,
by proxy in the porch of Nôtre Dame cathedral
(as the Protestant ambassadors could not enter for the nuptial Mass)
on May 1, 1625, less than five weeks after his accession to the throne.

Once in London, Henrietta Maria had as chaplain
the Scotsman Fr Philip Robert, an Oratorian
(from the same religious congregation that
Cardinal Newman was to join 200 years later),
and a dozen Franciscan friars to conduct services
both for her new chapel in Somerset House and
for the Queen's Chapel at St James's.

Henrietta Maria left London with the King in 1642,
but she was to return two decades later, after the Restoration,
when she became a friend of her daughter-in-law,
Catherine of Braganza.

It was Catherine, Charles II's bride,
who benefited from the treaty governing the Queen's Chapel.
After the flight of her brother-in-law James II in 1688,
Catherine remained in England, but the new king, William,
turned over the Queen's Chapel to use by
foreign Protestant congregations.

The treaty allowing Catholic worship
in this royal chapel
remained in force and
was periodically invoked because
it also reaffirmed a military alliance
between Britain and Portugal,
first sealed by the Treaty of Windsor in 1373.

In 1943, Churchill looked to the 1661 treaty
to ensure that Portugal allowed
British use of the Azores,
and in 1982 a similar appeal was made
during the Falklands War.

There has been no parallel occasion to use the treaty
to provide a place of worship for royal Catholics.
The Duchess of Kent
has worshipped in public churches
since she became a Catholic in 1994.

In her Coronation oath, the Queen assented to
a question from the Archbishop of Canterbury:
"Will you maintain and preserve inviolably
the settlement of the Church of England,
and the doctrine, worship, discipline,
and government thereof,
as by law established in England?"

One must hope that
when our next king swears his Coronation oath,
the Church of England will still figure in it.
Some Catholics feel the injustice of co-religionists
being debarred from the succession.
It seems to me far preferable to separating the Crown
from the maintenance of Christianity.

Today the Queen's Chapel is cut off from St James's Palace,
since in 1809 the connecting buildings burnt down,
and its door opens on to the road.
Next spring I must drop in one Sunday.

palomino
07-11-2009, 11:51 AM
The man HAS LOST THE PLOT!:D:p

These "conservatives" he refers to
ARE THE LAND OWNING FARMERS.;)

They AGREED TO LIE expecting a cut of
the power and profits, then realised that :eek:
those BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS
DON'T WANT TO SHARE OUR COUNTRY
WITH US, they only want it FOR THEMSELVES! :mad:

And that,
''new league of
world government
conspiracy theorists'',
are those of us who KNOW
that The Conspiracy INDUSTRY
is yet another WEAPON of
Those BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS!


Rudd blames climate sceptics
for global sabotage
ADAM MORTON AND DANIEL FLITTON
November 7, 2009

KEVIN Rudd has
launched a full frontal assault
on global warming sceptics,
lumping Opposition Leader
Malcolm Turnbull
in with a
''new league of
world government
conspiracy theorists''
he accuses of
sabotaging progress
on a climate treaty.

The attack came as senior politicians conceded a treaty
to cut greenhouse gas emissions is not possible this year,
and will be delayed at least six months.

Wealthy nations said the best hope for next month's Copenhagen climate summit was a ''politically binding'' agreement, setting out timelines and emissions targets for rich nations, as well as funding for poor nations to adapt to climate impacts.

The pessimism followed a week in which
50 African nations briefly walked out
of UN climate talks in Barcelona,
accusing the leaders of wealthy nations -
including, by name, Mr Rudd -
of not doing enough to cut emissions.

''I don't think we can get a legally binding agreement by Copenhagen -
I think that we can get that within a year after Copenhagen,"
UN climate chief Yvo de Boer said.

Climate Change Minister Penny Wong said
the minimum result for Copenhagen
to be considered a success would be
''an effective political agreement''.

Yesterday the Prime Minister
accused conservative politicians
and media commentators of
''quite literally
holding the world to ransom,
provoking fear campaigns
in every country they can''.

Speaking in Sydney, he said climate sceptics came in several guises:
from those in outright denial - comparing them with cigarette companies
that dismissed a link between smoking and lung cancer - to those who
paid lip service to the scientific evidence but preached a wait-and-see
response. ''It's time to remove any polite veneer from this debate,''
Mr Rudd said. ''The stakes are that high.''

''If Copenhagen does not deliver
the outcome we so urgently need,
no individual climate change sceptic will be responsible,
but each of them will have played their part.''

He said Mr Turnbull's refusal to back
the proposed emissions trading scheme
was evidence of entrenched scepticism
in conservative politics.

The speech came as negotiations continue over amendments
to the emissions trading scheme. Senator Wong confirmed
the Government would not accept all the Opposition's proposals
due to updated Treasury costings revealing a massive shortfall
in revenue from the scheme.

Mr Turnbull dismissed Mr Rudd's attack as an attempt to
distract attention from the controversy over border protection policy.
''He ought to calm down and concentrate on the negotiations,''
Mr Turnbull said.

This week's UN climate meeting was the last before the
Copenhagen conference. Observers believe a legal treaty
may be possible at a second Copenhagen meeting in mid-2010
or at another UN summit in Mexico next December.

The US this week tried to push responsibility for the perceived failure of climate talks on to China. Its chief climate envoy, Todd Stern, said the US would not agree to emissions targets unless China made similar moves.

But a new analysis suggests developing countries are acting. Consultants Ecofys found major developing nations are on track to slow their emissions growth by more than 20 per cent by 2020.

This meets one of the Rudd Government's conditions for Australia to set a target of a 25 per cent cut in emissions by 2020. But the condition that Australia wants other rich nations to meet - that they agree to cut emissions by at least 25 per cent in total - has not been met.

With AGENCIES


And of course, what's on tv tonight - oh yes

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/film/day_after_tomorrow_ice_lores.jpg

how pathetic can they get?

I said it before, I'll say it again.
If global warming is true
then why aren't they cancelling all the sport night games
all that electricity in all those stadiums.
how many "carbon footprints" are they creating? pfft
play it during the day!!! with natural light
what's the diff

oh no - they draw the line at their polly wally precious dumb ass wanky football/sport BRAINWASHING shit.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 02:02 PM
And of course, what's on tv tonight - oh yes

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/film/day_after_tomorrow_ice_lores.jpg

how pathetic can they get?

I said it before, I'll say it again.
If global warming is true
then why aren't they cancelling all the sport night games
all that electricity in all those stadiums.
how many "carbon footprints" are they creating? pfft
play it during the day!!! with natural light
what's the diff

oh no - they draw the line at their polly wally precious dumb ass wanky football/sport BRAINWASHING shit.

"This The Royal Academy Of Science,
We Don't Have To Prove Anything!"...

Just finished reading your post,
with
'Around the World In 80 Days'
playing in the background, and that was
THE QUOTE!

There's that "TIMING" again,
I just flicked over after 'Silent Witness' finished,
which was about OTHER CONSPIRACY NUTS,
Animal Libers...killing and torturing away...
and I couldn't help but notice,
TRUTH SEEKERS WON'T watch a "SILLY"
Jackie Chan movie for Truth,
nah, they'll watch THE Conspiracy INDUSTRY'S
"serious" BRAINWASHING DRIBBLE!

Ancient old, 'MISS-direction', The WHORE,
So Greedy She Never Stops Working!

vera susa
07-11-2009, 02:35 PM
Yep, seems everything is COMING
UP, OUT, BACK and HOME....

Big interest in a grand old dame
BY KIM STEPHENS
6/11/2009 11:31:00 PM


SHE may come with a
$20 million price tag,
but the grand old dame of
regional Victorian real estate,
Elaine's historic Larundel,
http://www.thecourier.com.au/multimedia/images/large/636448.jpg
has been attracting potential buyers
from across the globe.

Selling agent Jock Langley,
director of Melbourne-based
Abercromby's Real Estate,
said the luxury 1012 hectare estate
was without peer in Victoria.

It was officially listed for sale this week after the agency
had been receiving expressions of interest since late last year.

"We have been fielding inquiries from
right throughout Europe, the Middle East, Asia
and the rest of the world," he said.

"As a lifestyle property, it's hard to beat.
Our view is it could set a record for a Victorian rural property.
I haven't seen anything like it anywhere in the country."

Larundel's stately nine-bedroom,
six-bathroom homestead was constructed
in the 1870s by estate founder
AAA Austin
and has undergone many years of
painstaking restoration
to return it to its former glory.

Mr Langley said no expense has been spared
in the internal restoration, which had been done
under the expert guidance of internationally acclaimed
interior designer John Coote,
who has been at the helm of a number of
notable English manor restorations.

He said the present owners, Paul and Gabrielle Peat,
have put much work into the property
since purchasing it six years ago, but planned to downsize.

More than 20 hectares of
meticulously planned gardens
designed by renowned landscape designer Paul Bangay
frame the home, which comes complete with
a helipad and
private hangar in the Docklands,
an airstrip,
a 4000 bottle wine cellar,
a polo field,
croquet lawns,
a tennis court and
creek access.

Originally a large-scale fine wool production property,
the vast grounds are now used predominantly for cropping and grazing.

Mr Langley said although the property had been informally offered for sale since late last year, the owners had decided the time was now right to officially list it.

"From a timing perspective there is not a better time than now,
there's a real focus on country properties still from foreign investment
and there is a real shortage of good rural properties available in the country,"
he said.

"Interest thus far has been terrific,
so we would be expecting it to sell for
somewhere between 18 and 20 million

"It could be a local (Australian buyer)
but we are of the opinion the purchaser
will come from abroad."

Expressions of interest for Larundel close on November 27.

Just above the A300
about 15 minutes from
our place at YENDON.
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Property

Lachlan Murdoch buys
Bellevue Hill property
Le Manoir for $23m

By staff writers

news.com.au

November 06, 2009 12:01am

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'Le Manoir', a Georgian estate, sits on approximately 4000 square metres of land with panoramic views / Supplied
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'Le Manoir', a Georgian estate, sits on approximately 4000 square metres of land with panoramic views / Supplied
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144699,00.jpg
'Le Manoir', a Georgian estate, sits on approximately 4000 square metres of land with panoramic views / Supplied
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7144667,00.jpg
The six-bedroom residence with panoramic views
was expected to sell for at least $15 million / Supplied

* Lachlan Murdoch buys $23m property
* Was French Government's former consulate
* Beat nine bidders, including Russell Crowe

LACHLAN Murdoch bought the French Government's
former consulate in Sydney's exclusive eastern suburbs
for $23 million at auction last night.

He beat nine other registered bidders
to the prized Bellevue Hill property,
including actor Russell Crowe and his wife Danielle Spencer
and actress Nicole Kidman, who sold her house
in Darling Point earlier this year for $12 million.

The property, a six-bedroom residence with panoramic views
from Sydney Harbour to the Pacific Ocean,
was expected to sell for at least $15m,
but bidding opened at $18m, The Australian reports.

Those attending the closed auction were asked
pay a $50,000 refundable deposit to bid.
It is understood all 10 registered bidders were Australian
and each had agreed to bid more than $15m.

The 4000sq m Victoria Road property, named Le Manoir,
includes a tennis court, swimming pool, five bathrooms,
two studies, a guest powder room, three-car garage,
a large reception hall and a commercial-size kitchen.
(Give me Elaine's historic Larundel any day!)

Related Coverage

* Murdoch's $23m bid secures mansion
Daily Telegraph, 6 Nov 2009
* 682 homes auctioned in one day
Daily Telegraph, 26 Sep 2009
* Stars vie for $15m celebrity fortress
Daily Telegraph, 6 Sep 2009
* Is Cathy Jayne back in the realo game?
Adelaide Now, 28 Aug 2009
* Wheatley's $7 million home jail
Herald Sun, 1 Aug 2009


The oldest son of News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch,
Lachlan Murdoch and his wife, model and TV presenter Sarah,
are expecting their third child. They have two sons, Kalan, 4,
and Aidan, 3.

The couple spent $7.75m in 2005 on a waterfront residence
at Bronte Beach in Sydney, after selling a $20m waterfront home
at Point Piper.

Their new home, which has Georgian architecture with
3.6m-high ceilings, last traded in 1956 and was marketed by
Michael Pallier, principal of Raine & Horne Double Bay.

Mr Pallier would not comment on the buyers yesterday but said of the property "it would definitely be one of the most magnificent homes in Sydney", The Daily Telegraph reports.

The Georgian-themed house is surrounded by 3m fences and
a steel electric gate secluded at the end of a long, private driveway.

It is one of only a few to sell for more than $15m in the Sydney prestige property market this year, with spending curbed by the global financial crisis.

In September, a harbourside Sydney apartment building owned by
Perth businessman Warren Anderson and his wife, Cheryl, was passed in
at an auction.

The Elizabeth Bay complex failed to sell after falling $3m short
of the $11m reserve price.

The properties are next to the exclusive 1920s Boomerang complex,
which Mr Anderson owned before it was bought by businessman
John Schaeffer for more than $20m four years ago.

It now belongs to trucking magnate Lindsay Fox.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/08/26/wbFOX_narrowweb__300x464,0.jpg
Lindsay Fox outside Melbourne High School.

Phillip Island may never be the same
August 27, 2006

To some it's a backwater -
to the trucking magnate it's ripe for development,
writes Mark Russell.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/phillip-island-may-never-be-the-same/2006/08/26/1156012790153.html

vera susa
07-11-2009, 02:57 PM
I REALLY DON'T like the TIMING of This 'AD'
that for a change, REALLY IS "FUTURE NEWS"
that I'd rather not be so...

Stories of sacrifice carved in granite
GARY TIPPET
November 8, 2009

http://images.theage.com.au/2009/11/07/843525/hutchinson-420x0.jpg
Historian Garrie Hutchinson in front of the
Charles Moore Boer War memorial in Albert Park.

Charlie Moore, who played 30 games for Essendon,
was the first VFL player killed in war.
Photo: Simon O'Dwyer

Devotion and loss are writ large in
a new guide to Victoria's wartime heritage.

ONE day not long ago, Garrie Hutchinson
stood by Annie Whitelaw's gravestone
in the cemetery at Briagolong in Gippsland.
Annie had died, aged 64, in April 1927
and was a stranger to Hutchinson,
but he wasn't entirely surprised to find himself in tears.

There was a quote from Arthur Conan Doyle,
the creator of Sherlock Holmes,
inscribed in the grey-white marble:
''Happy is she who can die with the thought
that in the hour of her country's greatest need
she gave her utmost.''
Hutchinson doubted that Annie died happy.
Her contribution to the First World War had been
six of her seven sons - five of whom it killed.

Bob Whitelaw was 29 when he enlisted. He served at Gallipoli until evacuated with illness in November 1915 and finally rejoined his unit in France a year later. He was killed at Bullecourt on May 3, 1917.
The official Red Cross record of his death
would have been no comfort to his mother:
It said he was ''blown to bits'' by a German shell.

His younger brother Ivan had been gassed in 1916 and suffered gunshot wounds in April and May the following year. At Bullecourt, three days after his brother's death, Ivan helped beat off a heavy enemy attack with bomb and Lewis gun and was awarded the Military Medal. In April 1918, aged 24, he was killed at Armentieres and is buried somewhere in an unmarked grave.

Angus Whitelaw was just 16 when he enlisted, but said he was 18. His mother travelled to Melbourne to beg him to come home, threatening to tell the army the truth. If she did, said Angus, she'd never see him again. She didn't: after serving at Gallipoli, he was killed on August 25, 1916, at Mouquet Farm near Pozieres.

The oldest Whitelaw, Ken, was 32 when he signed up in 1916. He was badly wounded at the last Australian action of the war, at Montbrehain on October 5, 1918. Discharged medically unfit in 1919, he returned to Australia and married, but died of his wounds in 1922.

Their brother Lionel was wounded at Gallipoli and evacuated to Malta, where he became ill. He died in 1933 and Hutchinson has no doubt that his life was shortened by his service. Don Whitelaw, wounded in May 1917 and given a commendation for gallantry at the Messines offensive, died in 1965 and is buried near his mother at Briagolong. Undeterred by his brothers' sacrifice, Annie's youngest, Kelvin, served with the RAAF in the next war.

''You can't help get a little emotional when you see something like that,'' says Hutchinson. ''It got to me.'' There are stories like that all over Victoria - carved into granite or marble; raised in bronze; on monuments in main streets, parks or cemeteries; on honour boards in community halls, Mechanics' Institutes and clubs in every community. They mark sacrifice, devotion to duty and family loss in the state's wartime heritage, from colonial times until today. And Hutchinson has seen nearly every one.

The historian's latest book, Remember Them, is a guide to more than 250 of Victoria's key war memorials and the stories behind them. It tracks the ubiquitous obelisks and bugle-blowing statues, but also less obvious monuments marking obscure aspects of our long military history - such as the Relief of Mafeking tree at Minyip; the American Civil War; the Boxer Rebellion; and Maori Wars. There is even a memorial at Drysdale commemorating participants in the Charge of the Light Brigade.

It is Hutchinson's sixth book on military history and pilgrimage since making a life-changing visit to Gallipoli in 1993. Yet he is an unlikely - and, some loudly claim, unworthy - chronicler of the nation's wars and warriors: he was a Vietnam War draft resister. Last year he resigned from a State Government job as a project officer in veterans heritage, where his work involved military commemoration and education, following a campaign by bloggers, some veterans and the tabloid media.

Hutchinson will not be quoted on that campaign and its costs, but says his anti-Vietnam efforts do not make him, as some of his more rabid critics have claimed, a traitor poisoning the minds of schoolchildren. ''These days you're not considered un-Australian if you object to the war in Iraq, but at the Vietnam time it was different,'' he says.

''I had a very political objection to the war and I did what I thought was the right thing then - to bring about the end of the war and the end of conscription. I didn't find any cultural discontinuity … in fact I felt part of what is a really strong radical tradition in this country, rather than being some deviant.''

In 2006, in his book Pilgrimage, Hutchinson wrote that Australia was on the losing side of the political argument in Vietnam but came out with its military reputation enhanced. In opposing the war, it was still possible to strongly support the men and women involved. ''As one who chose not to go … I still regret that we did not make that point strongly enough.''

Hutchinson's father Jack fought at Milne Bay in World War II and, like most of his generation, was brought up with the Anzac tradition. ''A lot of the Anzac spirit … and what it's about are crucial to who we are as a people
as opposed to who anybody else is,'' he says.

In many ways
our monuments and war memorials
speak to that unique national character,
he claims.
''If you look at the statues
that are all about the place,
they're all about mateship, helping each other,
compassion and volunteering.
In our military tradition, the people
who are celebrated aren't the generals -
with a few exceptions -
and they're not the fighting men.

''People like Albert Jacka, for instance,
who should have won three Victoria Crosses
and was a ferocious fighter, but it's not him,
it's Simpson and the donkey, it's Weary Dunlop.''


Remember Them:
A Guide to
Victoria's Wartime Heritage
will be launched by
Premier John Brumby at
Queen's Hall Parliament House
tomorrow .

vera susa
07-11-2009, 03:26 PM
Stinks of a SORTING of who Can and CAN'T
JOIN THE EXODUS from the HELLS of The NORTH...

Australia's basing its $87m secret
on sensitive absurdity
TOM HYLAND
November 8, 2009

DON'T tell anyone,
but the Federal Government is spending
$87.5 million of your money
on a new Middle East military base.

Not that it uses the word ''base''.
Instead, budget papers say that the money is being spent on
''command and control enhancements'' which will
''consolidate ADF supporting assets to one location''.

Nor will it say where the base is because under a deal with the host country, Australia agrees not to reveal it. Nor does it give the location of the old bases the new one is replacing.

An ADF spokesman told The Sunday Age that Defence did not say where the bases are because of security considerations and ''host national sensitivities''.

The coyness has less to do with security and more to do with the ''sensitivities'' of the the Arab hosts, who don't want to advertise that they accommodate foreign troops and their hardware, including big, noisy aircraft with red kangaroos stencilled on the fuselage.

The secrecy leads to a curious absurdity:
details and images of most of the bases are on the internet,
in the Middle East press and even on ADF websites.
Australian ambassadors have openly said where they are.
They are mentioned in Hansard.

The Sunday Age is also a party to the subterfuge.
On an ADF-escorted trip to the Middle East and Afghanistan,
we undertook not to reveal ''operationally sensitive information'' -
including ''the country in which ADF support bases are
located outside of Iraq and Afghanistan''.

Without breaching that undertaking, we can reveal -
drawing on what spies call ''open sources'' and
Sunday Age readers call Google - where these bases are.

One of them has a big sign out the front, adorned with red kangaroos
and the words ''Billabong Flats''. Drawing on the public record,
we can reveal that bases have been or are being closed in
Kuwait and Qatar.

The new one is at Al Minhad Air Base in Dubai,
in the United Arab Emirates.

Australia's Middle East bases have mushroomed since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Now their focus is supporting the war in Afghanistan. Australian troops going to Afghanistan acclimatise in Kuwait, at a compound attached to a US base notorious for its fast food outlets on a stretch of sand and gravel known as Fat Alley.

The base is alongside Kuwait's Ali Al Salem Air Base. You can find more than you need to know about the base at globalsecurity.org, including its precise location: 29°20'48"N 47°31'15"E.

Liberal senator David Bushby visited the base on an ADF-escorted trip and told the Senate all about it on June 18. ''The ADF conducts a training course for all personnel arriving in the Middle East theatre at Billabong Flats, a base Australia maintains in Kuwait,'' he said.

The community information page on the website of the army's 3rd Brigade also mentions the Kuwait base and its fast food outlets, including one that boasts ''the world's best cheesesteak''.

About 110 soldiers at Billabong Flats form what is called the force support unit. Their presence in the emirate has been reported in newsletters issued by the Australian embassy in Kuwait.

Billabong Flats is due to close at the end of the year, in a phased consolidation of Australian bases. While its Kuwait location was handy for invading Iraq, it's not convenient for Afghanistan.

Moving it will slash flying time, saving fuel bills and offsetting the cost of the new base.

When the force support unit moves to Dubai, it will join Defence's regional headquarters and the RAAF.

The Government has not announced this but Australia's ambassador to the UAE has, in an interview with Abu Dhabi's The National newspaper last month.

The paper revealed that 250 ADF personnel have been stationed at Dubai's Al Minhad Air Base since December.

Air force Hercules and crews completed their move from Qatar to Dubai last Thursday, joining an Orion detachment that has been there since 2003.

By the end of the year, 500 Australians will be permanently based there, the numbers boosted by hundreds more as troops transit to and from Afghanistan.

The fact that the locations are widely known
does not prevent media groups on ADF trips
from spicing their stories with references to
''secret'' installations they can't identify ''for security reasons''.

Townsville radio host Steve ''Pricey'' Price revealed in a report last month, presumably filed from Billabong Flats, that: ''I'm with another wonderful bunch of Aussies in a secret spot that James Bond, Frodo Baggins or even Lawrence of Arabia could never find.''

There's a serious side to all this, said academic Richard Tanter, director of the Nautilus Institute at RMIT, which maintains an online database on Australian forces abroad.

''Governments ought to be as transparent as possible,
and secrecy should only be justified in serious cases
of potential danger to persons,'' Professor Tanter said.

''The double standard imposed by the
UAE Government corrodes trust in
co-operation between allies.

''They are fooling no one,
certainly not their own people.
Forcing Australia to collude in
what's a fairly destructive process
is a hypocritical basis for public policy.''

Ah, what 'Sport'...

The Sport of Kings, hey...

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vera susa
07-11-2009, 03:38 PM
Stinkatron:
chaos at the top
CARMEL EGAN
November 8, 2009

AUSTRALIA'S elite scientific community has been stunned
by the sudden and unexplained dismissal of
the director of the nation's only synchrotron facility -
a multimillion-dollar, revolutionary research centre
and pet project of Premier John Brumby.

Professor Robert Lamb was dismissed and
escorted from the synchrotron complex
at Clayton 10 days ago following increasing tensions
with the facility's board of directors.

Fears are now mounting that conflict over management
of the world-class facility could damage its international reputation
and jeopardise future funding and research contracts.

Colleagues told The Sunday Age Professor Lamb -
who was on secondment from the University of Melbourne -
may have been made a scapegoat for the failure of the Australian Synchrotron company to secure government funding beyond 2012.

In an email to staff announcing that Professor Lamb had been replaced as the facility's director, the board expressed concerns for its long-term funding.

Speculation is rife among scientific colleagues that Professor Lamb's removal was a pre-emptive strike by the board ahead of its first appraisal by the Auditor-General, due to be tabled in Parliament in June next year.

His dismissal is reported to have followed a fiery meeting between the board and the synchrotron's scientific advisory committee in September, at which there was heated debate about the centre's future funding and the direction of its research.

It is believed two leading members of the scientific advisory committee resigned in protest after that meeting.

''They [the committee] have often not seen eye to eye with the board,''
said an informed source who did not wish to be named.

''There is an organisational, structural issue which has always lent itself to conflict because of the way synchrotron was set up by the Victorian Government … as a company rather than a government institution.''

Leading scientists and researchers
who use the synchrotron
are reportedly preparing a public statement
about the board's conduct and the secrecy
surrounding Professor Lamb's dismissal.

A synchrotron is a massive machine that produces beams of intense light that can probe the physical structure of materials as minute as atoms and molecules.

It is used for research in areas as diverse as
forensic science, biotechnology,
drug design, toxicology,
food technology, engineering
and medical therapies.

In 2001, John Brumby, then minister for innovation, got approval for the synchrotron to be built on land adjacent to Monash University, and secured its start-up costs of $221 million in state and federal funding.

Since opening in July 2007,
the synchrotron has attracted international
and national contracts from universities,
private companies and
interstate and foreign governments.
It is now running at 98 per cent capacity.

In a media release dated October 30
but sent to The Sunday Age on Friday,
Australian Synchrotron chairwoman Catherine Walter
confirmed the facility's ''secondment agreement with
facility director Professor Robert Lamb, has ended …
[he] is now free to return to the
University of Melbourne to continue his research''.

Ms Walter - who resigned from the National Australia Bank board following controversy over her handling of a 2004 foreign exchange scandal that cost the bank $360 million - would not return calls from The Sunday Age.

Professor Lamb has been replaced by
acting facility director Dr George Borg.
According to synchrotron user groups and stakeholders
secrecy surrounding the dismissal is causing disquiet.

Professor Lamb did not reply to questions from The Sunday Age.
Chairman of the synchrotron's scientific advisory committee and
Victoria's chief scientist (energy), Professor Frank Larkins,
also refused to comment.

A spokesman for the Premier said his office
was unaware of Professor Lamb's dismissal.

vera susa
07-11-2009, 04:12 PM
Well I WARNED The World about
RUDDY BLOODY RUDD when he
was just the poli on SUNRISE,
YEARS AGO....but this is NOT about 'invasion'
by REFUGEES, REFUGEES LITERALLY BUILT THIS
MODERN NATION...it's about "THE ELITE" of The NORTH
NOT WANTING "their" SAFE HOUSE full of "useless eaters",
and there ARE an AWFUL LOT of "ELITES" ALREADY
INVADING with this their DIRTY MONEY and TWISTED 'Ways",
like considering US NATION BUILDERS, "useless eaters" that
"They" can do WITHOUT TO!


World hits Rudd
over boat people
stand-off

CAMERON HOUSTON, NEW YORK
November 8, 2009

THE Federal Government's tough stance
on asylum seekers is attracting
international media attention -
most of it critical
and likely to damage Australia's standing.

As the impasse involving 78 Sri Lankan asylum seekers
on an Australian Customs ship enters its fourth week,
The New York Times heaped opprobrium on Australia's policy
of processing refugees at the Christmas Island detention centre.
The newspaper compared the centre to Guantanamo Bay.

''Even as boats arrive every few days, advocates for refugees
and even the Government's own human rights commission
are urging the Government to close the place down
and sort the asylum seekers on the mainland,''
The New York Times reported.

It cited a report by the Australian Human Rights Commission
which said the centre ''looks and feels like a prison''
and described security as ''excessive and inappropriate''.

''The centre … now nearly full with refugees from Afghanistan
and Sri Lanka, has come to symbolise what many call
one of Australia's defining fears:
the arrival of boat people from Asia,''
reporter Norimitsu Onishi said.

Reports by the BBC have also been critical of Australia's reluctance
to share responsibility for the tide of asylum seekers.

''Australia receives just a fraction
each year of what the UN estimates
to be more than 15 million refugees globally,
but the issue has split the country,'' the BBC reported recently.

And attempts by the Rudd Government to persuade Indonesia
to process the 78 asylum seekers on the Oceanic Viking
have rankled media organisations in Malaysia and Singapore,
just a week before the APEC summit.

Malaysia's New Straits Times said
the Rudd Government's response
was motivated by self-preservation
and selfish gain.

''Border protection, border security,
is ingrained in the Australian psyche.
From the 'reds under the bed'
parodied paranoia of Robert Menzies' 1950s,
successive governments
of both mainstream persuasions
have pandered to the politics of fear of invasion,''
the New Straits Times reported.

But the Government's handling of the crisis has won
editorial support in Canada, which detained 76 Sri Lankan refugees
who arrived by boat last month.

''Canada should emulate Australia in being vigilant and trying to intercept such ships before they get close to shore,'' said Canada's Globe and Mail.

Unlike Australia, however, Canadian authorities
processed most of the Tamil refugees within days of arrival.

Under Canadian law, an asylum seeker
must be given a detention hearing
within 48 hours of being taken into custody

vera susa
07-11-2009, 04:33 PM
On the BBC NEWS page,
couldn't help but notice
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you DO GET IT, Right...
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WILLY, The BUTCHER, SAME THING...

Butcher pens in date with Queen

Butcher, William Lloyd Williams,
always keeps a biro behind his ear
in order to take orders from customers

A butcher from Powys rewrote the rules of etiquette
when he met the Queen to receive an honour -
by wearing a pen behind his ear.

William Lloyd Williams was collecting
an MBE for services to the meat industry
with the pen an unlikely accessory to his morning dress.

He said he had called Buckingham Palace beforehand to check it was acceptable.

The popular butcher from Machynlleth, is known for always having a pen ready to take orders, even after hours.

Royle Family star Sue Johnston, who was collecting an OBE, spotted it while they mingled before the ceremony.

Mr Williams said: "She said to me 'Excuse me, but do you know you've got a biro behind your ear?' and I said: 'Yes, I'm a butcher and I thought the Queen might want a turkey for Christmas and I might have to take an order.'

"She liked that, she thought it was hilarious."

Personality

Mr Williams asked the Palace's permission
before bringing along his pen to avoid causing offence.

"I didn't want to be over-the-top or anything
so I rang the Palace and said:
'I always have a pen behind my ear,
do you think it would be a problem?',
and they said that if I thought it was part of my personality
then it would be okay," he said.

William Lloyd Williams
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Mr Williams runs a small abbatoir
and butcher's shop in Powys

"When I got through the gates my wife said to me: 'Wil, take the pen off', so I did but while I was queuing up to go into the hall I put it back on again.

"The Queen did look and she smiled."

Mr Williams, who runs a small abattoir and butcher's shop in Machynlleth, is an enthusiastic campaigner for local producers.

Rural service

"I was accepting this award on behalf of the old fashioned butcher and as far as I'm concerned the pen is the symbol of your independent local butcher.

"They are closing every week. It it is important to keep this rural local service going. It doesn't matter where you live, support your local butcher this Christmas."

Mr Williams, whose business was founded in 1959 by his grandfather, has won a string of awards for his meat and was a finalist in the best local retailer category in BBC Radio 4's Food and Farming Awards.
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vera susa
07-11-2009, 05:11 PM
National News

John Howard takes revenge on Kevin Rudd

By John Hamilton

The Sunday Telegraph

November 08, 2009 12:01am


John Howard
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John Howard has accused Kevin Rudd
of running a wasteful government
/ Sam Mooy

FORMER prime minister John Howard has launched an extraordinary attack on Kevin Rudd, accusing him of running a wasteful do-nothing government and mishandling the asylum seeker issue.

In his first extensive interview since he left political life two years ago, Mr Howard criticised the Rudd Government over its emphasis on symbolism and high-level spending.

He also denied there was any firm deal for former treasurer Peter Costello to take over from him as Liberal Party leader and prime minister.

And Mr Howard said Australia should go the distance in Afghanistan.

Of the Rudd Government, he said: "It is now almost two years since they were elected and I think it is fair to have a look at what they have done.

"The Rudd Government comes up very short. I can't think of a major thing it has done - except spend the bank balance that Costello and I left behind. Nothing else.

"In our first two years we put our funds into surplus after a huge deficit, radically changed our gun laws and we got ready for the huge reform of the waterfront.

"We changed our industrial relations system and brought in individual contracts. We privatised 30 per cent of Telstra and we had announced a comprehensive review of the tax system.

Related Coverage

* I'd stop the boats: Howard
Daily Telegraph, 8 Nov 2009
* Ungracious Rudd gets a free pass
The Australian, 12 Sep 2009
* Howard, Costello attack Rudd's speech
The Australian, 11 Sep 2009
* The great contender
The Australian, 17 Jun 2009
* Rudd's do-nothing year success
Daily Telegraph, 25 Nov 2008


"The Rudd Government has done
a couple of symbolic things,
like signing Kyoto, but Kyoto runs out in 2012
so it is a piece of symbolism.

"The apology -
some people regarded that as very important,
but it was a symbolic thing, not a challenging reform.

"So I'm scratching ... even with the emissions trading system, what Mr Rudd is proposing is not all that different from what I took to the last election."

He also lashed the Rudd Government for throwing away money.

"I wouldn't have sent out those $900 cheques," he said.

"Mr Rudd will say he had the global financial crisis to handle. Well,
courtesy of us, he was well endowed with money in the bank."

Mr Howard revealed that, unlike his former colleagues Mr Costello and Brendan Nelson, he had not received and would not accept a job from Mr Rudd.

"I am very content with the freedom I have," he said.

Mr Howard said he was optimistic
about the shape Australia was in.

"There's no doubt that Australia today
is in a much better position than
any other comparable country," he said.

He said water was
one of the biggest problems the nation faced
and that a national approach was needed.

"It's now nearly three years since I launched that water initiative on Australia Day 2007 and we don't seem to have got very far," he said.

"The lasting solution to this is that
the national government has got to
control water allocations.

"Mr Rudd has cobbled together some deal with the states that has put this off until years into the future. The fact is our rivers system is a national asset. The last time I looked, the Great Australian Artesian Basin lay under four states and territories.

"I think at some point the national government
may have to seek a referendum
to get the power to control this."

vera susa
08-11-2009, 01:00 AM
The Sting you´re talking about Tintin

http://www.waukeshafp.org/images/residents_faculty/injection.jpg

so probably this is it. this is the string or maybe the pre-stage of it.

on Monday Germany will start free-will injections for the whole
country. Greece will do forced injections for the whole population,
for every single one. France intende to do the same, their injection
plans are outlayed by the military.
I think this will happen in the US too and probably Germany if they
can make the people believe that the infections is spreading.

I´m not sure what this is.
Theres a charge against the WHO and the Baxter International
by Jane Bürgermeister, austrian journalist,
that this is all about genocicing the world populatin.

The vaccine is mixed up with bird flu viruses,
a claim, that was supported by the new zealand ministry
which started investigating Baxter labs.
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=828%3Ais-the-new-zealand-ministry-of-health-lying-about-baxter-and-the-qswine-fluq-jab-jon-eisen-reports&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en

the Reason why i think this is important?

I AM LEGEND 2007
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(virus depopulates the world, black hero/leader/president seeks control)

Carriers 2009
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Carriersposter.jpg

REMEMBER THE DARK KNIGHT SCENE WITH THE TERRORIST DRESSED
AS DOCTORS? THAT WAS CODE.

Zombieland fall 2009
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Two movies for end of 2009, same tagline:

The Road fall 2009
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"In a Moment the world changed forever"

Agora fall 2009
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"Alexandria Egypt 392 A.D.- the world changed forever"

on wikipedia last listet movie:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Creation_poster.jpg
Charles Darwin movie

Survival of the fittest
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Michael Crichton died on November 4
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interesting Wiki-pici, Chalk board behind reads:
Medical Ethics Program
Terrorisms Threat


He wrote about pandemic in Andromeda Strain
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Obama Health Care Speech on Captiol Hill September 9 2009
makes 09.09.09
999
666
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Health Ledger
Heath.

44

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State of Fear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it seemed like just yesterday he was
BEING RIPPED TO SHREDS for THAT BOOK
on Australian ABC Lateline.

Unlike DAN BROWN who's
BULLSHIT BOOK got UNIVERSITY Courses
to STUDY it's BULLSHIT,
MICHAEL CRICHTON TOLD THE TRUTH...

THE GREENIES ARE THE TERROSTS,
as in the BRITISH, "SILENT WITNESS"
last night, with
TERRORIST "ANIMAL LIBERS".
INJECTING, TORTURING and KILLING
THEIR OWN "SOLDIERS"

And NOW with RUDD going off tap about
"Climate Change" TO THE WORLD...
makes me wonder about
CRICHTON'S "SUDDEN DEATH"

Seeing what's STILL to come from him...

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It is an adventure story concerning
piracy in Jamaica in the 17th century.

It is currently considered
a spiritual successor
to Crichton's other notable
historical novel,
The Great Train Robbery

Pirate Latitudes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Next takes place in the present world,
where both
the government and private investors
spend billions of dollars every year
on genetic research.

The novel follows many characters, including
transgenic animals, in the quest to survive
in a world dominated by genetic research,
corporate greed, and legal interventions.

Next (novel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And then of course we also have
Australia's ABC TV PUSHING
A NEW SHOW that MAKES A HERO/GOD
out of CHARLES DARWIN :eek:

But you know what IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW...
THERE HAVE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T
CATCH and DIE from whatever is KILLING...

Though, this COULD BE coming into
"That Time" of
ONLY 5-10% of the World's Population Surviving.

And THAT IS THE 5-10% of those who
ARE NOT DECEIVED and REPENT of
ALL THAT ANTI-CHRIST CATHOLIC TRINITARIAN
EGYPTIAN DEATH WORSHIPPING EVIL that
"They" LIE is Christian.

Now you will note that as UGLY as things look,
and well, ARE, There IS BETTER THAN HOPE,
There IS AN UNBREAKABLE PROMISE of
PERFECT LIFE WITHOUT death...

but that GOOD NEWS has been BANNED
from 'that thread' ....

vera susa
08-11-2009, 01:47 AM
Dear Mr. Murdoch,

I understand that your paper's are a commercial venture,
and so it is right that you be paid for their content, as it
is right that you pay those who gather and write up the
content.

Now I have been happy to freely give of what I know,
despite it costing me dearly, but as the enemies of
The Tribes of Israel and The Land promised us, our
glorious homeland, Australia, have been the ones
robbing me, I now ask that you consider paying me
for the years of work I've done writing News that
you then later use to sell your papers.

Yours Sincerely,
Suzy Rae Ryan.

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Experts blame gloomy economic conditions
and tougher UK visa rules
for record numbers of Aussie expats
chucking in the Old Dart to return home

vera susa
08-11-2009, 02:52 AM
"Give me a child 'til 7,
and I'll give you the man."

'Children are too young for school'
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'Children are too young for school'

STUDY finds children are not
emotionally or socially ready
to tackle school until age six.

Yeah, this was another thing that had me
slandered as a 'bad mother', I wouldn't do
all that Kinda, early schooling crap, but
RAISED MY CHILDREN IN A LOVING FAMILY,
on a property we BOUGHT TO RAISE CHILDREN
WELL on...and then the school was an eight student
country school, right across the road.

And what was the main complaint:
that they needed to learn to "SOCIALISE".

INTO THIS EVIL SELFISH GRASPING SOCIETY!

Well I Do Thank God that I listened to HIM,
as even though their later years were filled
with "HELLS" that would have turned most
into vengeful scum, they instead returned to
the Spirit that RAISED them.

They grew to learn what 'society' was harmful
and chose to disassociate with such ilk, while
helping and advancing the overlooked GOOD GUYS
in their lives.

Funny to, that a certain teacher also told me off
for TEACHING THEM TOO MUCH before they started school.

Ungrateful Bitch! In prep. my son was TEACHING her
Grade 2 kids what SHE COULDN'T! :p

~~~~~~~~~



National News

Cambridge University study finds
children too young for school

By Miawling Lam

The Sunday Telegraph

November 08, 2009 12:01am


Kindergarten Students Sacred Heart / Sam Ruttyn
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7149604,00.jpg
Kindergarten students (left to right)
Ruby McIlrath, Oliva West, Angus McGlade and Felix Lee
at Sacred Heart school in Mosma. Picture: Sam Ruttyn

* Study finds kids should start school at 6
* Not emotionally, social ready before then
* Children in NSW can start at age 4

CHILDREN in New South Wales can start school as young as four
but an international study says enrolment should be delayed
until they are at least six years old.

A Cambridge University study recommends
children aged under six engage in a year of
play-based learning before they start school.

It found younger students
are not emotionally, socially
or developmentally prepared
to tackle the rigours of a curriculum.

The findings are at odds with
other research which
suggests
four and five are the ideal ages to start school.

Children in NSW can enrol in the first year of school,
called kindergarten or Year K, at four years and six months.

They must be enrolled by the age of six.

Kindergarten students are taught English and maths
for at least 12 hours a week.
Their lessons include reading, writing, spelling and counting
as well as simple addition and subtraction.

From next year, all public school kindergarten students
will be tested in basic literacy and numeracy for the first time.

Related Coverage

* Waste?: Uni degrees lose prestige
* Primary schools set to go bilingual
NEWS.com.au, 4 Nov 2009
* Kids start daily Asian language class
NEWS.com.au, 4 Nov 2009
* Extra hours at kindy for preschoolers
Adelaide Now, 27 Oct 2009
* First steps so critical to a smarter nation
Adelaide Now, 27 Oct 2009
* Daycare improves services
Courier Mail, 19 Oct 2009


Most European children don't start school until they turn six
and in Sweden, Poland and Finland, they begin at age seven.

Cambridge Primary Review co-author and chairwoman
Gillian Pugh said forcing subject-based learning
onto four-year-olds could dent their confidence.

"They are not going to learn to read, write and add up
if you have alienated children by the age of four and five,'' she said.

"If they are already failing by age four-and-a-half or five, then it's
going to be quite difficult to get them back into the system again.''

The authors call for a
"full and open debate''
on the issue.

Child psychologist Dr John Irvine warned that
accelerating children's learning could backfire.

"Play is the way a child learns
what no adult can teach them,''
he said.

"But we're trying to cut short children's childhood
to fast-forward them into this manic anxious state
where they get learned early.

"In time, the brain will turn off
something it's not enjoying
so they'll be at school in body,
but missing in spirit.''

Primary curriculum officer at
Sydney's Catholic Education Office Franceyn O'Connor
said children should be assessed individually.

"The idea that six, or any age, is the magic number
when all children are ready to embark into the structured world
of formal education does not make sense,'' she said.

National president of advocacy group
Early Childhood Australia, Margaret Young,
said children would be disadvantaged if the starting age changed.

She said delaying the start of kindergarten worked in Europe
because they had strong transitional early childhood education
programs, something lacking here.

"That's why we're reluctant to say `let's move on to this model'.
It's really dangerous to impose one without the other,'' she said.

Western Sydney mother Monique Fenech held back her eldest son,
Nicholas, who turns six next March, from school this year because
she felt he wasn't ready.

"The extra year has given him so many more skills.
It means that when he starts school, he's going to enjoy it a lot more,''
she said.

An Education Department spokesman said
the NSW Government
had no plans to change its enrolment policy
or lift the school-starting age.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Right, THAT NSW Government FAMOUS for
it's other CHILD DESTROYING INSTITUTION:

NSW DoCS despicable new low
http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/files/sydimc/images/Burney+mate.jpg
Posted April 25th, 2009 by Cathy
NSW DoCS despicable new low

Every time you think that
NSW State Labor DoCS can sink no further
it emerges as a glass bottom on their
unconscionable conduct.

What is more distressing than the news
currently being aired are the thousands of cases
that are never allowed to be written about
in their entirety if ever at all.

DoCS despicable new low
On April 25th, 2009 Cathy says:

Undoubtedly DoCS has stooped to an entirely new,
despicable low with the release of the latest tactics
reputed to alleviate outrage surrounding child deaths.

Simply don’t tell!

Yes, the new tactic is not to release the official death count of children already known to, (and abjectly failed and neglected) by the NSW State Labor govt. Child Death figures that are rising at such an alarming rate, that it might dent enthusiasm at the voting poll of even the rusted on dodgy mates. Little wonder that these despicable tactics are cloaked in the famous Dodgy Mates contracted deals to keep the extent of the real and shocking details and figures under “professional privacy”.

One might have thought that the previous tactic of releasing the not a full year’s figures when even though the 42 weeks worth represented a 40% rise in known to DoCS deaths, but that level of trickery only works occasionally.

What was of course worse than this was that every major journalist was well aware that this was not a full years figures but refused to print the truth. Privately they issued their disgust in no uncertain terms. But would they dip their toe in the “freedom of the press” and “our right to know”?? Not on your Nelly!

So re-enter the Wood circus whose sole role was to alleviate the Federal ALP President from any nasty questions about the portfolio’s biggest problem. Every question that was permitted to be asked of why 40% more kids were dying was conveniently flick passed to either Wood or Barbour, thus Burney was free to press on with her more pressing desire to change her Federal Presidency from one year reign to three and to relentlessly update her Bebo, myspace and other PR accounts.

The Federal ALP President busied herself with having small local papers regurgitate her press releases about the opening of envelopes, and storms in teacups, to those preferably without an in house legal team who may be able to wrangle some element of truth under the indisputable guise of “in the public interest”, lest it be seen as some act of heinous treachery and deception to the inglorious child killing machine known as the NSW State Labor Party.

The fact that Linda Burney
is Kevin Rudd’s boss
should concern everyone.
http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/image/nsw-docs-despicable-new-low

palomino
08-11-2009, 03:48 AM
"This The Royal Academy Of Science,
We Don't Have To Prove Anything!"...

Just finished reading your post,
with
'Around the World In 80 Days'
playing in the background, and that was
THE QUOTE!

There's that "TIMING" again,
I just flicked over after 'Silent Witness' finished,
which was about OTHER CONSPIRACY NUTS,
Animal Libers...killing and torturing away...
and I couldn't help but notice,
TRUTH SEEKERS WON'T watch a "SILLY"
Jackie Chan movie for Truth,
nah, they'll watch THE Conspiracy INDUSTRY'S
"serious" BRAINWASHING DRIBBLE!

Ancient old, 'MISS-direction', The WHORE,
So Greedy She Never Stops Working!


Wow! Indeed.

Also on TV last night.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/images/Who-do-you-think-you-are.gif
WHO DO "THEY" THINK THEY ARE?

Roberta's grandmother was Gladys Dubock, and as a consequence of her surname assumed that there was a connection with France, possibly of Huguenot extraction. (The Huguenots were a group of Protestant refugees who first came to England fleeing from persecution in France in the 16th century.) Yet there was no proof for such a connection - a common problem for many people make assumptions based on the 'sound' of a name. So Julia's first task was to build her family tree, using certificates and census returns at the Family Records Centre, London.

Daniel was one of nearly 200,000 Huguenots who fled after the French King Louis XIV passed a decree in 1685 banning Protestant worship in France and stripping Huguenots of their civil rights. This meant they were unable to inherit property, their marriages were invalidated resulting in their children being declared illegitimate and they had to bury their dead in secret. No wonder so many sought a new life overseas.

Religion Wars!
But I don't remember them mentioning on the program that the Roman Catholic Church was involved!

palomino
08-11-2009, 04:01 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/MichaelCrighton_StateOfFear.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

And it seemed like just yesterday he was
BEING RIPPED TO SHREDS for THAT BOOK
on Australian ABC Lateline.

Unlike DAN BROWN who's
BULLSHIT BOOK got UNIVERSITY Courses
to STUDY it's BULLSHIT,
MICHAEL CRICHTON TOLD THE TRUTH...

THE GREENIES ARE THE TERROSTS,
as in the BRITISH, "SILENT WITNESS"
last night, with
TERRORIST "ANIMAL LIBERS".
INJECTING, TORTURING and KILLING
THEIR OWN "SOLDIERS"

And NOW with RUDD going off tap about
"Climate Change" TO THE WORLD...
makes me wonder about
CRICHTON'S "SUDDEN DEATH"

Seeing what's STILL to come from him...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Pirate_Latitudes.jpg

It is an adventure story concerning
piracy in Jamaica in the 17th century.

It is currently considered
a spiritual successor
to Crichton's other notable
historical novel,
The Great Train Robbery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Latitudes


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Next_book_cover.png

Next takes place in the present world,
where both
the government and private investors
spend billions of dollars every year
on genetic research.

The novel follows many characters, including
transgenic animals, in the quest to survive
in a world dominated by genetic research,
corporate greed, and legal interventions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_%28novel%29

And then of course we also have
Australia's ABC TV PUSHING
A NEW SHOW that MAKES A HERO/GOD
out of CHARLES DARWIN :eek:

But you know what IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW...
THERE HAVE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T
CATCH and DIE from whatever is KILLING...

Though, this COULD BE coming into
"That Time" of
ONLY 5-10% of the World's Population Surviving.

And THAT IS THE 5-10% of those who
ARE NOT DECEIVED and REPENT of
ALL THAT ANTI-CHRIST CATHOLIC TRINITARIAN
EGYPTIAN DEATH WORSHIPPING EVIL that
"They" LIE is Christian.

Now you will note that as UGLY as things look,
and well, ARE, There IS BETTER THAN HOPE,
There IS AN UNBREAKABLE PROMISE of
PERFECT LIFE WITHOUT death...

but that GOOD NEWS has been BANNED
from 'that thread' ....


Yes, I do like Michael Crichton too.
I bought one of his books, Prey, second hand from one of the local libraries.
I look back now and think, yeah no wonder they were getting rid of it.
"They" wouldn't want too many of his cautionary tales on nanotechnology, easily available to the general public now would they.

When I'm at the libraries now, I always check out the "for sale" piles to see what "they're" getting rid of.

vera susa
08-11-2009, 05:49 AM
Jilted lover awarded
$100k kiss-off
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7148893,00.jpg
Jilted lover awarded
$100k kiss-off

A CHEATING husband has
paid his former lover
more than $100,000
under Australia's new
"mistress laws".



National News

$100k payout for jilted lover
in Victoria

By Sue Hewitt

Sunday Herald Sun

November 08, 2009 12:01am


Afffair(the fff spelling is Murdoch's
hidden title of this image)
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7149316,00.jpg
A payout, prompted by the end of a 20-year affair,
will strike fear into the hearts of philanderers / File photo

* Dumped lover awarded $100k kiss-off
* Ex was his "source of relaxation"
* Payout "gives relationship validity"

A CHEATING husband has paid his former lover
more than $100,000 under Australia's new "mistress laws".

In the first known case of its kind in Victoria,
the Melbourne businessman was sued under
changes to the Family Law Act -
which gives rights to people in de facto relationships
and same-sex marriages, the Sunday Herald Sun reports.

Legal experts say the case, prompted by the end of an affair of
more than 20 years, will strike fear into the hearts of philanderers
nationwide.

The woman, who has not been named for legal reasons,
said not only did she deserve the money,
but others should follow her lead.

"I gave him the best years of my life," she said.

"He always told me he would look after me, then he left me.
I had committed myself fully to him for all those years
and it just came to a dead end.

Related Coverage

* Mistress laws take hold
Courier Mail, 8 Nov 2009
* $100k payout for jilted lover
NEWS.com.au, 7 Nov 2009
* Windfall for de factos, love children
Daily Telegraph, 21 Sep 2009
* Gay Aussies pro-marriage - survey
Herald Sun, 14 Sep 2009
* Tassie ALP backs gay marriage
Perth Now, 26 Jul 2009


"He behaved like a gentleman toward me
throughout our relationship - except at the end -
and now he has been a gentleman again
by doing the right thing.

"I saw our relationship as a loving companionship.

"He got a lot of relaxation away from the stresses of his business life.
When he came to me he did not have to worry about business.

"And I provided him with a lot of moral and emotional support.

"So this is also about giving our relationship a validity. It is a
recognition that I have added something of value to his life.

"Now I am beginning to come to terms with life again. The money
provides me with a security in my later years.

"This law has made a difference for me, so hopefully
it will make a difference for others like me."

The lawyer for the woman who took the action said his client
"Mary" (not her real name) started the affair with
"Tom" (not his real name) more than 20 years ago,
with the pair enjoying a close bond throughout the period.

"Many marriages don't last that long," the lawyer said.

Mary accompanied Tom on several overseas and interstate trips
and she often joined him at dinner functions.

"They had a mutual commitment to each other and Tom promised
he'd look after her. But he was married and still is married."

Though Mary worked and had her own home, Tom also gave her
a monthly allowance running into four figures.

The pair - now pension-age - had regular sex
and Tom showered her with gifts, the lawyer added.

But Tom ended the affair this year.

Mary said she was devastated at being dropped.

Then she learned of the law change and her legal team sent
a letter of demand - quoting the new legislation - to the man.

"It settled (out of court) within weeks," her lawyer said.

"If it had not been for this law, my client would have been abandoned,
left on the scrap heap....AAHHHH FUCK THIS!!!
THE BITCH WAS CHEATING WITH A MARRIED MAN!
SHE KNEW IT FOR 20 YEARS,
"PLAYED HIM" FOR 20 YEARS,
THEN WANTED MORE!!!!
THE BLOODY SCRAP HEAP IS TOO GOOD FOR HER,
SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DROWNED IN A SEWER!!

"This is an acknowledgment that if you are in any substantial relationship, each party has a level of commitment to each other."

The new federal laws for maintenance and division of assets for de facto couples, mistresses and same-sex couples came into effect on March 1 and any disputes are heard by the Family Court or the Federal Magistrates' Court.

The laws give some mistresses, as well as de facto and same-sex couples, the same rights as married couples.

A mistress wanting maintenance or a pay-out had to prove
the couple had a long-term relationship, a sexual relationship,
financial dependency, a commitment and a public recognition of
the relationship, Mary's lawyer said.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yeah, O.K., HE CHEATED to, and maybe he wanted to
update to a younger model to flaunt at functions, but
lets face it, that is all she was, a WELL PAID "Social Sexatary"
"working in Excellent Conditions" AND SHE KNEW IT!

But REAL WOMEN everywhere KNOW this is just ONE
of the HORRORS that those WHORES of The Beast WORKED
so long and hard to INFLICT on The Just and Faithful.

And what about THE FAITHFUL WIVES and CHILDREN?

Those SLAGS SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK
EVERY CENT THEY ROBBED OUT OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD,
if you really wanted to be FAIR and JUST.

Oh, you say a man is entitled to spend on R & R.

O.K.

So, who has to pay say a Golf Club, that gives them
ENTERTAINMENT and RELAXATION, $100,000 when
they want to give up the game...SHE KNOWS that's
all she was, and like a Golf Club, if he didn't pay his
MONTHLY FEES and EXTRAS, he would NOT have been
PLAYING FREE for 20 years!

Well what about those women who really were 'in love'?

FUCK EM!
If they think love is fucking, they should simply GROW UP
and understand that to Give Love includes denying yourself
what would harm the one you love, and no one has to tell me
how HARD that IS, but that is what makes a GREAT LOVE, GREAT;
GIVING what is NEEDED, Not what's DANGEROUSLY DESIRED.

And now I feel bad, because I really can't make myself
feel sorry for all those WHORES who
WILL FIND THEMSELVES DEAD instead of 'paid out'.

And THINK about this: just how many of the WOMEN
BEHIND bringing about this EVIL New LAW are/were MARRIED,
by MAN'S LAW that also PUNISHED CHEATS, who have SOLD OUT
and CRUELLY BETRAYED EVERY FAITHFUL woman and FELLOW
CHEATING SLAG in their "Women's CIRCLES"...you know, the ones
who WILL END UP DEAD BEFORE THEY KNOW THEY'RE DUMPED!

BUT, CONTRARY to what my initial outburst may read like,
I do NOT WANT any drowning or deaths of any sort to
be seen as an answer, but rather want "Those" 'women' to
take the WARNING and pull their greedy heads in NOW,
like having nice, tight "POST WHORING AGREEMENTS"
drawn up or other such STRONG acts of GOOD WILL.

btw, this is also and ACT OF WAR. Inspiring the 'disposal' of masses
of "Honey Traps" that LITERALLY ARE ENTRENCHED SPIES for those
"Secular", CATHOLIC CREATED ORANGE INVADERS, before they twig
and DEFECT to The Winning Side!

Anyway, on praying on whether I should post this at all,
THIS is where I Opened That Book:

Proverbs - Chapter 6
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV

Proverbs - Chapter 7
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=7&v=1&t=KJV

Proverbs - Chapter 8
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=8&v=1&t=KJV

vera susa
08-11-2009, 06:14 AM
Yes, I do like Michael Crichton too.
I bought one of his books, Prey, second hand from one of the local libraries.
I look back now and think, yeah no wonder they were getting rid of it.
"They" wouldn't want too many of his cautionary tales on nanotechnology, easily available to the general public now would they.

When I'm at the libraries now, I always check out the "for sale" piles to see what "they're" getting rid of.

:D Yes, the UNpopular is very popular with me to.

Like the VERY MUCH MALIGNED
MANNING CLARK'S
The History of Australia,
picked up the whole 6 volumes
for $1.20 AT THE LIBRARY.

Can't go teaching folk "White Man's History"
any more!

WHY?

When it's STILL THE SAME PEOPLE running the join TODAY!

Ahhh...maybe "they" DON'T WANT us "KNOWING OUR ENEMIES"!

Maybe "they" DON'T WANT us KNOWING HOW OFTEN
we CAME SO CLOSE to LOSING This Land To Those TRAITORS, Already!

"Dump 'em in the povs homes, they have no power to sway opinions,
other than BACK to those of 'The Powerful' they desire to become!"

vera susa
08-11-2009, 06:37 AM
Wow! Indeed.

Also on TV last night.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/images/Who-do-you-think-you-are.gif
WHO DO "THEY" THINK THEY ARE?

Roberta's grandmother was Gladys Dubock, and as a consequence of her surname assumed that there was a connection with France, possibly of Huguenot extraction. (The Huguenots were a group of Protestant refugees who first came to England fleeing from persecution in France in the 16th century.) Yet there was no proof for such a connection - a common problem for many people make assumptions based on the 'sound' of a name. So Julia's first task was to build her family tree, using certificates and census returns at the Family Records Centre, London.

Daniel was one of nearly 200,000 Huguenots who fled after the French King Louis XIV passed a decree in 1685 banning Protestant worship in France and stripping Huguenots of their civil rights. This meant they were unable to inherit property, their marriages were invalidated resulting in their children being declared illegitimate and they had to bury their dead in secret. No wonder so many sought a new life overseas.

Religion Wars!
But I don't remember them mentioning on the program that the Roman Catholic Church was involved!

Yes, when I first saw the promos for
this programme before the first series,
I mentioned to the kids that this was part of
REMINDING The Tribes of Israel,
WHO THEY ARE and CALLING THEM HOME,
which they also plainly saw.

But it gets funny when I REMIND them that
ALL OUR FAVOURITE TRADITIONAL FAMILY FOODS
ARE CLASSIC JEWISH FARE, which is
a REMINDER of who we WERE BEFORE
the CATHOLIC, "CONVERT OR DIE" Campaigns.

See they also worked and dealt with a lot of
"Those" modern, "CLOSED SHOP" GOLD OBSESSED "JEWS"
and really do NOT like being likened to them...then promptly
shut me up (because they've heard it so often), before I can
again remind them that it's The SPIRIT
that God Saves, NOT 'the blood',
and COMING HOME only to further
DENY HIS HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH,
will land folk in the,
"I NEVER KNEW YOU" 'family of ASH'!

vera susa
08-11-2009, 06:40 AM
This is weird...where have all "The Members" GONE?

I've NEVER seen the number this LOW,
and "What Numbers"!

Currently Active Users:
1202 (69 members and 1133 guests)

vera susa
08-11-2009, 08:44 AM
Now I know 'someone' will flood over this
with all but what counts, WANTING readers to
FORGET that some messages ARE what
YOU PLAINLY SEE...

And in this case, also a REMINDER to
KEEP FAITH as there is NO MONSTER
that could stand against GOD.

David beats Russian Goliath

Posted November 8, 2009 13:49:00

Towering Valuev defeated by Haye
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r466076_2311361.jpg
Russian giant Nikolai Valuev (2.13m) lands a left
before being defeated by David Haye.
(Getty Images: Alex Grimm)

British boxer
David Haye has upset giant
Russian Nikolai Valuev
to win the World Boxing Association's
heavyweight championship.

Haye took the 12-round fight on points
in the German city of Nuremberg.

Valuev had been favourite to retain the title.

The Russian was far bigger than his opponent,
standing at 2.13 metres tall and
weighing more than 140 kilograms.

Haye said afterward that he thought he had broken his hand
in trying to knock Valuev, but was delighted at the outcome.

"This is everything I trained for
since I was a little baby," he said.

"I said I'd be the heavyweight champion of the world
and here we are.

"I hurt my hand early in the fight - but you know what
I kept chugging through. I kept threatening to chuck it.

"Only in the last round when I knew there was one round left,
I was like 'OK, even though my hand is broken - just chuck it'.
Next time when my hand is healthy I'll have to do that
from the early rounds."

~~~~~~~~~~

Well O.K. there is quite a lot being "said" here
but I will make one point: RUS=RED=NORTHERN INVADERS.

The 'Russians' were NOT RED UNTIL their invasion by those
NORTHERN HOARDS of 'GIANT' RED HEADS...the 'mighty
men of old', who took to LUSTING for 'hot looking' women
who were NOT FIT to RAISE children WELL.

The same characteristic that "Infected" Red Haired BENJAMIN
with sexual lust to the point where they almost became EXTINCT
due to none of the other Tribes allowing to breed into 'their ways'.


Actually, I now know why I wanted to post YET ANOTHER
Wiki FEATURED PICTURE, FEATURING AUSTRALIA...

when I saw it I thought, Oh no, nobody cares to hear more
of why this place is important...but now that it DOES tie in
to "WORLD" (EUROPEAN :rolleyes:) News, SO TIGHTLY.....
these critters ARE EXCELLENT MOTHERS!

Today's featured picture
Parma Wallaby
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Parma_wallaby_crop2.jpg
A female Parma Wallaby (Macropus parma)
and its joey.

This wallaby species is the smallest member
of the genus Macropus,
at between 3.2 and 5.8 kilograms (7.1 and 13 lb)
and about 50 centimetres (1.6 ft) in length.

It was believed to be extinct
before the end of the 19th century,
but a population was found on Kawau Island in 1965,
and two years later another population was found in
the forests near Gosford, New South Wales.

They are now classified as Near Threatened.

Photo credit: Benjamint444

vera susa
08-11-2009, 09:23 AM
SBS NEWS just bothered me...

you know I've long warned of the
SHUTTING of THE GATES, and how
war after war, people who do believe
that "They" will be O.K., find NO, even
GOLD doesn't buy them in or out, as
those TAKING Whole Nations will simply
TAKE their GOLD to!

Well I missed the beginning of the FEATURE
but talking to an ex-EAST GERMAN, her story
WAS that, INDEED,
"IF SHE HAD HAVE GONE, THAT NIGHT,
SHE WOULD NOT HAVE GOT BACK IN."

vera susa
08-11-2009, 09:33 AM
And continuing to be The LEAD Story,
ABC NEWS...

Joyce's asylum solution
'breaches refugee convention'

Posted 3 hours 15 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours 50 minutes ago

Sri Lankan asylum seekers stand
on the deck of the Oceanic Viking
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200910/r460822_2264683.jpg
The 78 Sri Lankans have been on board
the Oceanic Viking for three weeks
and are refusing to get off.
(AFP: Roslan Rahman)

* Related Story:
Send asylum seekers home, says Joyce
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r465201_2303769.jpg
The Federal Government has ruled out
bringing the group to Christmas Island.
(AFP: Roslan Rahman)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/08/2736414.htm

The Federal Government says sending a group of asylum seekers
on board an Australian Customs ship back to Sri Lanka would breach
the refugee convention.

The 78 Sri Lankans have been on board the Oceanic Viking
for three weeks and are refusing to get off.

Nationals Senator Barnaby Joyce says the Government should
send the ship to Sri Lanka.

But the Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith has ruled it out.

"We are certainly not proposing to take up the suggestion of
the Leader of the National party in the Senate, that
they be returned to Sri Lanka," he said.

"In advance of a proper assessment of their claims,
that in my view would be in breach of our international obligations
and in breach of the refugee convention."

Greens Leader Bob Brown says it is a ridiculous idea.

"It's Barnaby Joyce saying 'I want to break the law -
I want to ignore international decency and rule of law',"
he said.

"He as a parliamentarian ought to think about which other laws
he wants to break as a parliamentary leaders while he's at it."

West Australian Premier Colin Barnett also repeated his call
for the asylum seekers to be sent to Christmas Island.

Mr Barnett would not comment on Senator Joyce's remarks
but says the three week stalemate needs to be resolved now.

"I think that's somewhat humiliating for Australia.
We are a first-world nation and
we need to show compassion
and deal with the issue," he said.

Independent Senator Nick Xenophon says the Federal Government
should bring the group to Christmas Island.

The Government has ruled out bringing them to
Christmas Island for processing,
but Senator Xenophon has told Sky News
there may be no other option.

"People are tying themselves up in knots at a federal level.
We should process those people on Christmas Island,
check them thoroughly to see if they're genuine refugees,
and if they are, they need to be resettled," he said.

Tags: immigration, government-and-politics, federal-government, refugees, australia, indonesia, sri-lanka

vera susa
08-11-2009, 11:38 AM
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Giving identities to buried men

Australian researchers piece together
stories of the dead from a French battlefield.

http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2009/national/fromelles/main.html



* Lost diggers

Face to face with the
'lost' 85 Diggers of Fromelles

November 7, 2009

Some of the fallen Australian soldiers of Fromelles
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Some of the fallen Australian soldiers of Fromelles

For the first time two Australian researchers
have painstakingly pieced together the stories
of the dead from a French battlefield.
Paola Totaro reports.

He calls her Marples and she affectionately refers to him as Sherlock.
He's a determined, quiet cop with a forensic background; she's a chatty
grandmother with degrees in social research and 30 years' genealogy
experience.

They live vastly different lives but West Australian Sandra Playle
and Victorian Tim Lycett are united by a singular passion:
to give identities to the men buried in the shadow
of Fromelles' tiny Pheasant Wood.

These men, even boys, died on July 19-20, 1916,
in what the Australian War Memorial calls
Australia's ''worst 24 hours''.

In a battle intended in part as a diversion to the Battle of the Somme,
80 kilometres to the south, Australians saw their first action on the
Western Front; 5533 of them were killed, wounded or captured.

Playle and Lycett have spent two years hunched over computers,
slogging through papers, microfiche, tromping in rural cemeteries
and poring over photos of headstones in a bid to build family trees
for the 191 men whose bodies are believed to be those buried in
eight mass graves dug by the Germans in a field below the Fromelles
church.

Now they believe they have the paperwork to prove that another
four men are probably buried in those pits but have yet to be added
to the official working list.

Like Lambis Englezos, the Victorian school teacher who doggedly
argued to have the Pheasant Wood graves officially investigated,
it has been so-called ''amateurs'' like Playle and Lycett who have
sifted through service records and military papers not only to find
living relatives and descendants but in some cases to alert them
to a relationship with a missing soldier they may not have known.

In Britain, two fellow ''amateurs'' - London lawyer Melvyn Pack
and historian-researcher Victoria Burbidge - have also rigorously
checked what remains of the British records and have locked horns
with the Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre over the accuracy
of the British working list. They are attempting to force the removal
of 23 British names after proving that the men were not in the
61st Division - the only British division in that battle - and therefore
nowhere near Fromelles at the time of their deaths. They have also
argued for the addition of one new name which should be on the list,
but isn't.

The professional link, however, is Peter Barton, the esteemed
British historian whose work in the Bavarian archives located
the crucial records needed to show that the Germans had interred
Australian and British men in the pits by Pheasant Wood.

His 600-page report as the Fromelles Project historian in 2007
secured Australian approval and British financial support and launched
the formal archaeological investigation to prove Englezos's theory.

"This is the single most significant battlefield find of human remains
since searches ceased in 1921,'' says Barton. ''The way the project has
been carried out sets a precedent for any future project … if someone
produced a dossier as persuasive or even more persuasive than the
Pheasant Wood case, it is difficult to see how the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission or government authorities could turn down a
request to investigate."

For Lycett, it was a chance meeting with Englezos that fired up the
history sleuth in him. Passionate about World War I, he had embarked
on the Fromelles descendants' project when he decided to take leave
without pay from the Victorian police force. With time on his hands,
he offered his services:

"It dawned on me that someone was going to have to find the descendants," he says. "Obviously, Defence were going to ask for relatives to come forward as well as use the media, but not everyone knows they are related so if someone could actually start on pulling the information together."

Lycett had made contact with Playle via the Great War Forum, an internet site for historians and military buffs. An experienced genealogist, she was already well into a project to photograph and document war graves in the south-west of Western Australia. With Major General Mike O'Brien's imprimatur, they began to work through the men on the working list provided by CWGC.

"As we worked through the list in the beginning, we realised that we
had a talent to work together,'' says Playle.

"He is a policeman, he knows how to talk to people, whereas I can't deal
with family where an old man is crying on the telephone. But Tim knows
what questions to ask, how to pinpoint facts. That became his role while
mine is the genealogical and records access research skills."

Slowly, meticulously, they examined each man's service record,
finding next of kin, cross-checking with birth records, marriage registers,
death notices of family and photographic records of headstones. They had
thousands of pieces of a 93-year-old jigsaw. They began to put it together.

In one case, they managed to put together the history of Jack Joyce,
an older man who was born illegitimately. Little is known of any
surviving family. They found the only known photograph of him,
kept fondly by a nurse sweetheart who was denied his medals
because she wasn't a relative. The medals are unissued to this day.

Robert Courtney Green was found to have surviving descendants
and an identification tag apparently bearing dried blood,
a potential DNA source. (see story below)

But the real eureka moment was Lesley Leister:
"It took months,'' says Playle. ''We had nothing but an adoptive name
as a starting reference and still we uncovered the truth about his
illegitimate birth, identified his true parentage, established his
birth name and located his descendants. Oh, we did a little jig
with that one!"

Playle says the researchers were not prepared for the effect
these stories had on them. ''They have become far more than
just names," she says.

Cross-matching paperwork with cemetery records and information
on headstones has been a critical theme of the research.
James Gordon was 15 -
apparently the youngest Australian killed in action.
"This boy had no living descendants … Such is life," says Playle.

Barton warns no archival research can provide a battle's definitive picture. "Until I visited the archives in Munich, we had only looked at the battle through the prism of the Commonwealth archives. In fact it was the
German resource that gave us a completely different narrative and
different account and contained far more than anybody ever expected.
This body of work has been added to by visits to the Ingolstadt,
the Bavarian army museum, and hugely augmented by the
International Red Cross archives in Geneva."

The Australians say there are 191 names on the Australian working list
and the DNA specialists have suggested that if 30 can be identified
that would be a good result. Says Lycett: "They have all these experts,
anthropologists, archaeologists, DNA experts. But they are missing a
cog in the wheel without genealogists. They are simply relying on
requests to families to provide details and while a proportion of them
will have correct information, we know a couple at least that are not
correct and many others who don't have a knowledge of their family
history at all."

Paola Totaro is the Herald's Europe correspondent.

For more information, see www.fromelles.net

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I posted on Fromelles when it first hit the news
but still, there is much more this than I can begin
to put in words...just know...it is not to 'honour
the war dead', that all this SCIENCE and EXPENSE
is being INVESTED...even as a child, my daughter
one day told me, that how we (miss)treat the dead
would come back to, more than, haunt us....

vera susa
08-11-2009, 11:48 AM
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Paralympian Kurt Fearnley,
who has won the New York Wheelchair Marathon four times,
has started crawling the Kokoda Track
and plans to finish the punishing 96km in just 10 days
/ AAP More
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26321451-401,00.html

sorry, I don't have the energy to give this the rant it deserves either...
...no pain killers, lots of pain...best I retire for a while...

vera susa
08-11-2009, 12:15 PM
Yeah, I know, quitting goes against my nature
even when it goes for my welfare...but, the
view count kept catching my eye, 16097..1697..

so I Googled and quite frankly, it frightens me:

FIRST UP...

1697 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1697 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BAD ENOUGH...BUT the REST of that
FIRST UP "OFFERING"...with all the Fromelles stuff,
and well, everything else whirling around...REALLY
BOTHERS ME...

1697 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19 Sep 2009 ... Year 1697 (MDCXCVII) was a common year starting on Tuesday (link will display the full calendar) of the Gregorian calendar (or a common year ...
Events of 1697 - Births - Deaths - References
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1697

19 Sep 2009
where it does NOT even come up
on the Wiki list of that Year...?

That's when it was "Last Modified"...

So I Googled 19 Sep 2009 and
FIRST "OFFERING"...

Shabbat, September 19, 2009 - Jewish Calendar
Previous Day Previous Shabbat, September 19, 2009 Next Next Day · 1 Tishrei, 5770. Rosh Hashanah Day 1. To view Shabbat Times click here to set your ...
www.chabad.org/calendar/view/day_cdo/.../Tishrei-1.htm

NOW, HOW LONG HAVE I SAID:

"IT'S ABOUT TIME"..."TIMING"..."TIME-LINES"...

...ALL the FALSE "TIME-LINES", DESIGNED to
HIDE THE TRUTH...

...and that WITHOUT the 'JEWISH' FAKE 'calendar'
ROME COULD NEVER HAVE BLINDED SO MANY,
SO THOROUGHLY, for SO LONG...and NOW, "THEY"
ARE "OUTING THEMSELVES"...!!!...:eek:

vera susa
08-11-2009, 01:16 PM
2009 Andrew Olle Media Lecture -
Julian Morrow

Co-founder of The Chaser, Julian Morrow
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200909/r437578_2105643.jpg
has made a lasting impact on the current debate of
news, satire and freedom of speech,
and delivers the 2009 annual
702 ABC Sydney Andrew Olle Media Lecture.

The lecture will be broadcast in Sydney on 702 ABC Sydney
on Saturday 7 November at 11.00am and will also be televised
nationally on ABC1 TV on Sunday 8 November at 10.15pm.
Or somewhere here:
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2009/11/07/2735643.htm?site=sydney

Previous lectures can be read and heard at the Andrew Olle lecture page.

Meanwhile, here is the lecture as delivered by Julian Morrow...

In this most esteemed forum of the Australian media, I would like to begin by acknowledging the traditional owners - the Murdoch family.

I would also pay them my respects - but respect, like news, is something I'm just not willing to pay the Murdochs for. To the Olle family, however, I pay my sincerest respects.

It's a great honour to be asked to deliver the Andrew Olle Media Lecture. The previous speakers are truly distinguished, and to be added to the list is, for me, a truly humbling indication that I am now indisputably past my prime.

If you're asking yourself why someone with my media rap sheet is giving this address, me too. My best guess is that after suspending The Chaser's War on Everything for two weeks this year, Mark Scott reckons I owe him a bit of free content.

One thing I am certain of is that I'm the first person to give an Olle Lecture who's also been thrown out of this event. I once tried to gatecrash the Olle to do a Chaser stunt on Helen Coonan, the Minister for Communications at the time. I was forced to leave the room before the speech began - a fate that soon made me the envy of the entire audience.

To state the obvious, Andrew Olle was a respected journalist. I get none out of two on that score. But weirdly enough - I am a media proprietor of sorts. A decade ago, together with three friends, I ran a newspaper during a prolonged period of bad circulation and pitiful ad revenue... that may not qualify me to give this lecture, but it does mean I'm suited for a position in senior management at Fairfax.

At least I can say that we had a failed media business model before it was fashionable.

But I'm not going to talk about funding quality journalism tonight. Mouthing off on topics I don't know anything about is my day job, so I thought I'd try something different here, by focussing on something I probably know too much about: offensiveness and outrage. And I want to relate them to two fundamentally important media values, self-regulation and independence.

Independence

And I'll start by mentioning James Murdoch - Murdoch 2.0 - who in the recent McTaggert Lecture argued that "the only reliable, durable, and perpetual guarantor of independence is profit". Actually he didn't really argue it so much as assert it with all the confidence of a man whose independent wealth is reliably, durably and perpetually guaranteed by inheritance.

My experience has been different. In fact, based on the early days of The Chaser, I'd assert that the only reliable, durable and perpetual guarantor of independence is the absence of profit, coupled with obscurity. You can have a lot of fun under the radar.

In those early days under the radar, we operated more or less independently from the law. I was an employment lawyer by day and a defamation practitioner by night, conscientiously ignoring the often petty rules of libel. We always used to say you'd have to be crazy to bother suing us. And sure enough, before long we got a legal letter from the Moran family. Not the crime family, thank god, the heath care family. Rather than responding, we auctioned their letter of demand off at a party to raise money for the newspaper so that we could defame others.

We were independent of patrons too. When John Singleton sent us a cheque for $10,000, we immediately banked it, and sent him an abusive letter telling him to back off and stop meddling with our paper.

These early days instilled a key aspect of independence: freedom from fear, or to put it another way... a willingness to run the risk of offence, official displeasure, or worse. It's easily mistakable for stupidity. And it's produced some memorable brushes with the law. The very first was after we published Prime Minister John Howard's home phone number on our front page. The police raided the Chaser office to tell us that publishing the PM's number wasn't illegal, it was just really annoying.

There was another thing we were independent of in those obscure early days - an audience. More by necessity than choice. To be fair, this reflected very well on the discernment of the market. But one consequence of the almost total absence of customers for our content was that we developed a robustly independent editorial environment. Despite appearances to the contrary, this didn't mean a culture of 'anything goes' - in fact we had ridiculously long arguments about what was funny and what wasn't, and why.

A particularly memorable instance of this was when we found ourselves in the unique position of having a publishing deadline for a comedy newspaper on September 11, 2001. We watched the planes hitting the World Trade Centre just a few hours before the print deadline for the next edition. It was a strange night, but one that typified the way we've taken the old adage "tragedy plus time equals comedy" and turned it into a less universal dictum - "tragedy minus time equals Chaser". "Centrepoint jumps two in world's tallest building" still stands out as an all-time favourite headline of mine. But it, like many jokes I've been associated with, offended and appalled many.

And I won't lie to you, delivering jokes that make some people laugh and get others really angry can be a lot of fun. What matters is who's in which group and why. And, occasionally, whether they find out about it.

But getting back to the question of independence, I believe there is an English expression for James Murdoch's claim that it is reliably guaranteed by profit. It's a technical publishing term: "bollocks". Profit, like ownership, is at best conducive to independence, but it does not guarantee it. In Australia the words "cash for comment" are shorthand for the obvious point that profitable media can surrender its independence, entirely, in the name of more profit.

Independence of ownership certainly helps, but independence is a state of mind, not a state of balance sheet.

This brings me to one of my core arguments this evening, and it's something I strongly believe, independence of mind also by definition means independence from the audience. It seems perverse- but it's true. The way to create an original and interesting product is to not worry about what the audience will think. You have to back your own judgement. In fact, I found that's what audiences respond to most: usually with praise, although occasionally with death threats.

But pissing people off is part of the job - and that's something that applies to both comedy and journalism. Therefore choosing who, when, how and why you anger or offend is something you have to take responsibility for, and I gladly do. That's very different, however, from letting the possibility that some will take offence, or even feel hurt, be the determining factor of what you do. It may seem callous, but you cannot let the targets of your comedy be the judge of what's acceptable.

All of this has been affirmed in moving from the creative nirvana of irrelevance to a much larger audience at what is, without doubt, the most heavily regulated and scrutinised media outlet in the country, the ABC.

As a public broadcaster, the ABC has certainty, for better or worse, when it comes to core revenue. Its independence is also mandated by statute. The ABC's non-commercial status means that profit does not and cannot guarantee its independence. Broadly speaking, the ABC maintains its independence admirably and it does this by creating, in a range of different ways, an editorial environment which values independence of mind. It's the ABC's editorial environment, and the independence that flows from it, which is why the ABC is an institution that's cherished, by its audience, by the broader community, by its staff, by me, by its Managing Director and by most, if not all, of its board of directors.

The point is the ABC is much loved, and by a group of people which is impossibly diverse - and I mean that literally.

In my experience, independence at the ABC is strangely two-faced: the institution maintains overall independence partially because it allows content creators a measure of independence from the institution.

In one sense The Chaser has never been part of the ABC. Everything we've done has been through independent production companies, initially through our comedy fairy godfather, Andrew Denton. My favourite clause from our contract with Andrew said he would use "best endeavours to protect the group from all non-essential dickheads". Both parties were also contractually obliged to "have an enormous amount of fun at other people's expense, unless we can't afford it, in which case it will be at our own". They're the sorts of legal promise I like to make, and keep.

The "non-essential dickheads" clause showed Andrew's commitment to creative independence. Like many jokes, it hints at something true while also being an extravagant overstatement that's very unfair. That's one of the things I like about comedy. What that joke's getting at is the relationship between independence on the one hand, and self-regulation via the 169 pages of the ABC Editorial Policies on the other. Because whereas self-regulation in the commercial media is a farce, the seriousness with which the ABC regulates itself can be farcical in a different way... sometimes it feels like the ABC self-regulates to within an inch of its life.

At the same time, it's self-evident by what the ABC broadcasts, from The Chaser but plenty of others also - that you can push the boundaries there, and - unexpectedly for me at least - that a big mainstream audience can like it if you do. They might even love it. Or love hating it. But in my experience, aiming to create challenging content is something audiences respond to positively overall.

I'm now a veteran of years of "full and frank discussions" behind-the-scenes about the ABC Editorial Policies and what should and should not be broadcast. And it seems to me that, though often infuriating the substance of the ABC Editorial Policies is pretty sensible. The biggest danger for the ABC comes when those policies are applied narrowly, or fearfully, something which brings with it the ever-present risk of a bland compliance culture. I don't know how the poor bastards on staff in News and Current Affairs go, but in entertainment, avoiding this danger is the result of a fraught but functional relationship between the ABC and independent producers. Indeed, for the purposes of provocative overstatement, I'd even say that a lot of the ABC's best and most loved content goes to air as much despite the ABC as because of it.

And it's in this context that I'd like to talk about outrage.

Because it's been an interesting year to say the least. In 2009 with the world reeling from the GFC, this country, while doing relatively well economically, has been going through what I call the AFC, the Australian Funny Crisis. In fact according to Wikipedia, in 2009 'Australia set a new world record for "sick new lows"'. That's a direct quote. I know, cos I posted it on Wikipedia myself.

And The Chaser was, I guess, the Lehmann Brothers of the AFC... we tipped off what's been a year of outrage.

To recap, it all started as I said, with outrage at a comedy program for a badly misjudged sketch. Then there was outrage at a celebrity chef for abusing a tabloid TV host. The next outrage come after a breakfast radio lie detector stunt that backfired. Shortly afterwards, the same shock jock scored an outrage quinella when he managed to make a Holocaust fat joke. Then the "victim" of that outrage outraged cyclists with a joke on a panel show, shortly before some variety show talent contestants tried to make a joke about a dead pop singer only to outrage a living pop singer. Although it did seem that the pop singer's outrage itself caused outrage, both from those who agreed with him and those who didn't.

The tendency towards the absurd in all this was finally achieved with the next outrage about the hitherto undiscovered genre of satirical panty sniffing - that outrage actually hit the media before the comedy program itself did.

Now I don't want to dwell too much on the rights and wrongs of each event in this outrage-athon. Not least because the one I was personally involved in was, I think quite clearly, the worst by far. Instead, I want to note some common factors and themes for the media which seem to apply no matter what the particular subject of the outrage is.

Outrages over taste and decency are nothing new of course. I'd say that a significant theme of the movement towards liberal democratic society has been the increasing priority given to freedom of expression over taste and decency concerns. But most sensible people agree that there have to be some limits. I certainly do... which is why, by the way, the declaration of War on Everything was never meant to be taken literally. Titles, like jokes, work better without footnotes.

But while they're nothing new, debates about taste and decency seem different now. And that's because they are both amplified and distorted with startling efficiency thanks to the interaction of new and old media. Culturally, it's a nuclear reaction.

Taste and decency debates in the broader community were easier to dismiss when technology was less advanced. Controversial content was hard to access, or re-access, so it was easy to argue that public debate was grounded in ignorance.

It's useful here, indeed I think it's important, to distinguish between what I call the primary audience and the secondary audience.

The primary audience is mainly people who want to watch a show or at least chose to for some reason or other. They come to content through the platforms of the original broadcaster, whether it's TV or radio, or the various catch-up technologies. The primary audience at least approximates in some way the target audience for content.

By contrast, the secondary audience come to access controversial content because it's controversial. The secondary audience is often tends to be the very opposite of the target audience.

Today, thanks to widespread broadband access and social media applications, in particular YouTube and Twitter, the secondary audience is now much bigger and much closer than it has ever been before... it's now easy for them to access controversial content online. And one of the problems with giving people the ability to make up their own minds is that they do.

Thanks to high speed interent, content which is noteworthy in any way- whether its cute, inspirations, original, or involves cats - spreads like wildfire, sometimes around the world. The effect of anything can be instantly magnified by an avalanche - of YouTube postings, streams from media websites, forwarded emails, reTweets - all of which pile almost instantaneously on top of good old-fashioned cultural ripple effects like the watercooler, the schoolyard, or the B.O. infested taxi.

It means we've built the fastest most complex, high-tech cross-platform global echo chamber in history. And the impact on "debates", for want of a more accurate expression, about taste and decency is profound.

The dividing line between the primary audience and the secondary audience, where outrage blossoms, can often be observed via the timing of complaints. I first noticed it after The Chaser's Eulogy Song aired on ABC TV. The song was a deliberately provocative, but in my view satirically accurate song about the affection we tend to grant to even unsavoury celebrities posthumously (a human trait, I might say, that I hope to be the beneficiary of, though I'm in no rush). When I came in to work the morning after the Eulogy Song, the production office voicemail had nine complaints on it. But when the song was picked up by talkback radio mid-morning, the phone went beserk, and by lunch there were hundreds of abusive complaints, many of which proudly declared that they hadn't actually heard the song.

My all time favourite voicemail complaint by the way was from an old woman who said in her message that our show was, and I quote, "filth - f-ing filth".

The most dramatic example of outrage in the secondary audience is Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand in the UK. On 18 October 2008 they aired a tasteless but forgettable pre-recorded phone prank on BBC Radio 2. There were two complaints about it the next day. But when, 8 days later, the incident was reported in The Mail on Sunday, there were 1,585 complaints the next day, sparking a media frenzy. Within two days there were 27,000 complaints.

I've got no doubt the sheer scale and intensity of these controversies now derives from how easy it is for controversial material to be accessed by the secondary audience. Email and the web also make it much easier to formalise a complaint as well.

By the way, the Make a Realistic Wish sketch tops the ABC complaints charts for 2009, with 4,300 complaints. But to put this in perspective, while it's in the ABC's Hottest 100 of all time, it garnered roughly the same number of complaints as the decision in 2005 to cease production of George Negus Tonight. And both of them are more than a thousand behind the the most complained about thing the ABC's ever done, the axing of the Glass House, which led to 5,606 complaints.

I also note that in 2008, there were 2,645 complaints about the introduction of ABC1 and 2 watermarks on ABCTV shows. So if there's one bit of advice I'd give the ABC from all this, it's that the ABC should never introduce new watermarks that offend community standards - that really would melt the switchboards.

But is all this just a question of niche content versus "community standards"? I'm not convinced it's a simple as that, which is something I'll come back to.

For the moment though, it's worth observing that while media technology is fanning the flames of taste and decency outrage, it also renders it impossible for censorship - which used to the goal of outrage - to be meaningfully carried out.

For example, the movie Ken Park, which was refused classification in Australia, can be downloaded from the internet at the address on your screen now.

The ABC famously decided a long time back not to broadcast John Safran's pilot called Media Tycoon in which he rummaged through the rubbish of last year's Olle lecturer. For many years that excellent piece of TV was practically impossible to see. Now it's had thousands of views on YouTube.

By contrast, even though the ABC immediately withdrew the Make a Realistic Wish Foundation sketch from all its platforms, including the web, that sketch was practically impossible not to see. Much to our regret. Within minutes of its broadcast, it - like almost all TV content not - was digitally captured and posted on YouTube, in multitudinous acts of flagrant illegality that, as a copyright owner, I wholeheartedly endorse. Consumer-based video piracy has its upside. Banning content just ain't what it used to be. Although in that particular case, I wish our geek fans had done us a favour and not helped that sketch find a larger audience.

But it was curious to hear some in the media, especially the likes of Steve Price and Ray Hadlee simultaneously shrieking about how harmful the content was and urging more and more people to watch it and be appalled. The argument that it "should never have been broadcast" takes on a certain irony in this context.

I think different considerations should apply when considering the views of the secondary audience to those of the primary audience. In this context, I was interested to discover that none of the ABC's complaint systems track in any systematic way whether a complaint comes from a person who's viewed the content on an ABC platform or not. I think over time they'll need to.

The techno-fuelled taste and decency outrages in the secondary audience have a negative impact on two things: firstly, the quality of public debate; and secondly the prospects of a robust, diverse and daring broadcast culture.

In terms of public debate, the media outrage echo-chamber can mean it's simply counterproductive to engage in any public discussion. When not long ago the fine art photographer Bill Henson was in the firing line, PR doyenne, Sue Cato apparently advised him to withdraw from public altogether. I can see why. Sometimes the most you can do, is batten down the hatches, wait, and hope that some distraction comes along soon. Which is why I was truly saddened by Michael Jackson's untimely death on 25 June this year - if he'd only died three weeks sooner the spotlight might have moved off us earlier.

But based on the teachings of Cato the Australian, all I'd say is that it's not good for the country when the tone of public debate is such that having little or no relations with the public is the best public relations strategy.

At this point I want to take a gratuitous swipe at the Prime Minister. And I want to make very clear, I'm going out of my way to do this as an act of petty personal revenge because he went out of his way to criticise us, especially as he hadn't seen it. To me Kevin Rudd's enthusiasm for buying in on any cultural controversy - from Bill Henson to The Chaser to Gordon Ramsay - is a bit unseemly, and at risk of sounding old-fashioned, not very Prime Ministerial. Frankly, I was stunned a few weeks ago that Mr Rudd wasn't tweeting alternative names for Vegemite's iSnack2.0, or phoning Indonesia to see if as well as those poor Sri Lankans, they'll also give asylum to the poor bastard who came up with the one name in Australia less popular than "Kyle Sandilands".

Kevin Rudd clearly fancies himself as an intellectual leader of this country. But being a true intellectual leader means more than tossing off the odd economics essay for The Monthly between nanosleeps on your weekend off. It means setting the tone for the national discourse and resisting, rather than inciting, hysteria.

As well as reducing the tone of public debate, the second negative impact of taste outrages is, as I said, on the possibility of a robust, diverse and daring broadcasting culture. And this is where I'd like to say a few things about the latest vogue in media self-regulation: the cultural sin bin.

No-one's got a red card yet, not even Kyle Sandilands. But he's had a couple of yellow cards. The rule book for the cultural sin bin isn't really clear, but I don't think you can get a third one.

Of course the ABC gave The Chaser's War on Everything a yellow card with a two-week suspension. I don't think that was an outrageous decision, or an indefensible one. To be honest, personally, it was a bit of a relief. But I do think it's a dangerous precedent for the ABC to decide what it broadcasts from week to week because of outrage over taste and decency, especially when the Prime Minister has a nasty habit of weighing in with a jerk of his knee. Getting caught up in the short term hysteria of media outrage has the potential to damage the independence and integrity of the ABC.

Sin bin decisions are, by definition, made in the eye of the media storm. And in the eye of the storm, the views of the secondary audience - that is, people who only know about the content because it's controversial - loom way, way too large. Both its size and its import will, almost inevitably, be overestimated.

And I don't believe there's any convincing evidence, or even a theory, that taking steps to try and placate the secondary audience is prudent, or can be effective. I tend to think it only fuels the fire. But I recognise that's just as hard, probably impossible, to prove too.

What I do know for certain is the effect that outrages and the way they're handled have on something I think most Australians value, and which matters even if they don't, the ABC editorial environment. And for a while this year, there was a festival of editorial freaking out and an orgy of upward referral. The most illustrative event for me was a debate over a sketch called Baby Day Spa which featured a 100 per cent faked, safely and responsibly filmed satirical image of a baby getting a botox injection to look younger. There was concern, emanating from all sorts of unusual places in the ABC, that this sketch too might breach community standards. Another example is when filming of a different sketch was halted to prevent a volunteering mother from breastfeeding her own child on camera until DOCS the Department of Community Services gave the all clear. In both those instances, sanity prevailed... eventually, which I guess is a cause for moderated pessimism. In my experience, the temporary insanity of editorial crises does slowly abate and fearless good judgement can re-emerge with time. I just hope the headcount of people at the ABC who are committed fearless good judgement doesn't shrink.

This is important because it is part of the ABC's purpose to broadcast for the entire Australian community. That does not mean limiting itself only to content which is acceptable to everyone in the country. In fact it should mean the opposite. Everyone should have something to love on the ABC, and that probably means they'll have something to be indifferent to, maybe even hate. But the ABC should provide a diverse range of content that meets the diverse tastes of the Australian community. Personally I find the ABC's commitment to British cop drama very dull - but in order to service the large ABC audience which likes that crap, the ABC needs to disregard my pigheaded views. And it should disregard the views of people who only like staid British dramas, or To the Manor Born, or who don't like comedy at all, in making its decisions about what edgy comedy to present.

Now I want to be very clear here. I'm not defending the Make a Realistic Wish sketch - I agree with the ABC's conclusion that it shouldn't have gone to air. I wish I'd intervened to stop it myself - and I remember vividly the moment when the right call was on the tip of my tongue.

I'm also not suggesting that that it was only the secondary audience who didn't like that sketch. It's beyond any doubt that the massive majority of the audience, including the target audience, really didn't like those 58 seconds of The Chaser's War on One Too Many Things.

But I believe we should try to analyse the types of reaction that arise in moments of outrage, especially since there's no telling if the AFC is over. I think it's fair to divide the majority of people with a negative view of controversial content into three categories, and it's important to distinguish between them. The first is people who are hurt by it; the second is people who are offended or outraged by it; and then the last category is those who don't like it.

So I'd like to make a realistic assessment of the Realistic Wish audience, because I believe what's true of them is true of the Australian mainstream.

The first category - those who were hurt - is by and large are people who've been touched in a personal way by childhood cancer. They are the people that I'm sorry about. I know that they have, arbitrarily, been afflicted with grief caused by one of life's cruellest realities. You've got tears enough in your life if that happens. A comedy show shouldn't add to those pools of grief. Lest there is any misunderstanding, if you are one of those people, I want to reiterate my sincerest apology to you for the unwarranted pain that sketch caused when you have already have too much suffering in your life.

But the next category - people who were offended by the sketch - is in my view different. We live, thankfully, with genuinely free speech, which is a hallmark of a tolerant society. And it's not good speech, or nice speech, that needs to be tolerated. It's bad speech. Mediocre speech. Tasteless speech. Sometimes, hurtful speech. That is to say, most of what passes the lips of Kyle Sandilands . Even more chillingly, the entirety of Hey Hey It's Saturday. And a pretty fair chunk of The Chaser's work.

But the inevitable corollary to freedom of speech is that there is no such thing as a general right to not be offended. So to be honest, perhaps too honest, if you were just offended by that sketch I'm not really sorry. Of course, you have every right to be outraged and to express your offence to whoever you like. In many, but certainly not all, cases, I recognise that your outrage springs from a good place, from compassion for the suffering of others. But if you were just offended, unlike those who've been hurt, I don't believe you're owed an apology. You can demand one. And it's possible that some people will say sorry to you - some for noble reasons, some for cowardly ones, some just to get you to shut up. But offence is a much lesser category of wrong, and I believe it should be responded to most cautiously in dealing with questions or taste and decency.

And that's because of the third category - those who didn't find the sketch funny, who thought it was insensitive, ill-advised, or that it reflected poorly on its creators, but who weren't hurt by it or outraged by it. My sense is that there were more people in this latter category than media coverage of outrages acknowledges.

It's hard to know how big this group is compared to the offended. Because if there's one thing we know for certain, it's that the outraged are always the loudest. There is, quite simply, no objective data to measure these things.

But I want to argue tonight that the "mainstream" audience is more diverse than we tend to think, and that it deserves more credit than it's often given. In particular, a significant part of the mainstream audience is actually quite open-minded. Or to put it another way, it is not the Australian community's real standard that only content which the majority of people agree with or like, is acceptable content.

The Australian community understands that tastes vary. It accepts that, in matters of taste or opinion, reasonable minds can differ, and that unreasonable minds can call Alan Jones. It won't go quoting Voltaire at you. The Australian community's not that up itself. And no doubt, one of its standards is that if you stuff up, you should cop a heavy ear bashing. It expects that if you dish it out you've gotta be able to take it. But I don't believe that the Australian community actually wants narrower, more regulated, or even less offensive content.

The standards of the mainstream Australian community are, I believe, robust but fair-minded. They're better than our own kneejerk reactions, our harshest words, and the moments when we fail each other or ourselves.

They're better than the worst of the media.

To me, this is both a statement of fact and an article of faith, an aspiration. Because it's only if you believe in the fair-minded mainstream that you can create content for it. And even if you sometimes doubt this is what "most people" think, then, in fact especially then, it's still important to maintain belief in the better natures of our fellow citizens.

The evidence for the robust, fair-minded mainstream is everywhere. The most impressive recent example of this in Australian comedy is the massive success of Chris Lilley's accessible but subversive work at the ABC. The most enduring is Barry Humphreys. Gary McDonald was a pioneer. Australians have a taste for unusual content, indeed a hunger for it. It abounds, and not just on the public broadcaster. Think of the deeply unusual Roy and HG, not just on radio but at the Closing Ceremony of the Olympic Games for God's sake.

In drama there's things like The Secret Life of Us on Channel 10 and Love My Way on Foxtel, two recent examples I've chosen only partially due to a crush on Claudia Karvan. There's a big audience for quality international content also: things like The Sopranos, or even Rupert Murdoch's massive hit The Simpsons.

To return to an earlier point, the way to service the fair-minded mainstream of the Australian community, or any community, is not to pander to their presumed tastes, because if you do that you're bound to err on the narrow side, to the detriment of everyone. Guessing community standards is a difficult game, but its played most enthusiastically by those with the narrowest views. And they shouldn't be the judges. I've just mentioned a few hits, but in the creative sphere there will be misses too - and The Chaser one epic miss this year. But I also believe that being willing to take risks with content involves more respect for the fair-minded mainstream audience than erring on the side of the caution or striving to avoid offence.

In his time, Andrew Olle defined the discerning mainstream of Australian journalism. I didn't know the man, but I've done some research to find out about him. As far as I can tell, he had literally zero friends - that's verified by Facebook. In his entire journalistic career he did not write a single tweet. He seemed in a way to be the journalistic equivalent of a one man band: the popular drum of 702 Breakfast strapped to his front, while simultaneously carrying the cymbals of quality, the 7.30 Report and Four Corners, on his back. And a comedy horn for his morning radio chats with Paul Lyneham, which I fondly remember listening to on the way to university.

For some reason, what stands out in my memory of Andrew Olle is that voice, especially on the radio. Drifting into your consciousness with the clock radio alarm, intelligent but not superior, serious but warm, firm but gentle. There was something in his voice that said, "You can trust me." And he never betrayed that trust.

He had that independence of mind I referred to earlier, which is the essence of good judgement and media leadership. He served his audience by maintaining a professional detachment from it.

I'm glad that I never had to face his questions. I can just imagine him, in the face of something like the Make a Realistic Wish controversy, asking us, "Why didn't we know that this was going to happen?"

It's not an easy question to answer. All I could say is that we should have, and I wish we'd made a better call. But it was a serious lapse in a good process, not the inevitable outcome of a rotten one... and it's one which I believe has, overall, served the audience well. One which is important in the interests of creating original content for the fair-minded mainstream of the Australian community. And one which I hope will continue.

When there's an error of judgement, the thing to do is renew your commitment to good judgment, not to compound the error with more.

A key part of good judgement is recognising that you're fallible, and when you've done wrong, taking responsibility for it and respecting the dignity of those you have hurt.

But an equally important part of good judgement is resisting the furious cries of the outraged mob or letting only the narrowest of tastes prevail.

Because the essence of good judgement
is maintaining your independence.

vera susa
08-11-2009, 02:24 PM
So while it's news again, that they are doing
DNA matching to identify war dead in France,
just after The RACE that STOPS The NATION,
the ABC ALSO gives us this news...

Horse genome joins sequencing stable

By Nicky Phillips
for ABC Science Online

Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 9:15am AEDT
Updated Fri Nov 6, 2009 9:39am AEDT


The findings could become a valuable tool
in detecting diseases in other species.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200711/r200571_767918.jpg
The findings could become a valuable tool
in detecting diseases in other species.
(Getty Images/AFP: Justin Sullivan)

* Audio: Horse genome decoded (AM)
* Map: Sydney 2000
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2734889.htm

While most of the nation has this week
been focused on which horse
crosses the finishing line first,
scientists announced that they have
completed mapping the horse genome.

The findings, reported in today's edition of Science, not only provides insights into the genetic make-up of the horse, but could become a valuable tool in detecting diseases in other species.

Geneticist and lead author Professor Claire Wade of the University of Sydney and her colleagues sequenced the horse genome using a technique called capillary sequencing, which was the same technique used to sequence the human genome.

She says the horse genome consists of 2.7 billion letters, which is slightly smaller than that of the human, but larger than the mouse and dog genomes.

By studying the horse genome, Professor Wade says scientists can use it to better understand human genetic disorders.

She says as animals evolve it is expected that those parts of the DNA that do something important stay unchanged.

"If we can see the same thing in a horse sequence that we can see in a human sequence that gives us a clue that that part of the DNA is important," he said.

Professor Wade says as with all mammals, there are a lot of genetic similarities between humans and horses.

"The chromosomes have not been rearranged very much between the mammalian common ancestor and humans."

Human companions

Throughout history, horses have been close human companions since they were domesticated between 4,000 and 6,000 years ago.

But Professor Wade says it is very difficult to determine a true genetic signature of domestication.

Almost all horse breeds are now domesticated so there is nothing to compare them to, she says.

Even the przewalski horse, a wild breed found in Mongolia thought to be an ancestor of domestic horses, was found to be almost genetically identical to other breeds of domestic horse, she says.

But Professor Wade says by far the most exciting discovery in the genome project was the identification of a new centromere, called a neocentromere, on chromosome 11.

"Centromere's are typically nucleotide sequences that stabilise the DNA during cell division," she said.

Professor Wade says the neocentromere, which is fixed throughout the species, is a sign of where in evolutionary history horses diverged from other species of their family, such as donkeys and zebras.

She says they will be able to use the information within the neocentromere to understand how centromeres work in other species.

Genetic maps

As well as sequencing the genome, the team were also able to develop a map of genetic markers, known as SNP's, which are used to compare DNA sequences between individual horses.

"It helps us to map the genes that affect horse health," Professor Wade said.

She says the genetic markers were mapped from seven horses that were geographically dispersed to ensure different aspects of horse ancestory were represented.

"That ensures the resource is useful for all horse breeds," she said.

Dr Natasha Ellis, also of the University of Sydney, is currently using the genome research to study a specific gene called ACE, which is associated with blood pressure and may be linked to racing performance.

"Having the horse genome is very helpful to look at individual genes," she said.

"It also helps researchers and breeders."

Tags: science-and-technology, animals, cloning-and-dna, research, genetics, australia, nsw, sydney-2000

vera susa
08-11-2009, 11:01 PM
World Breaking News

France backs Australian
nuclear power industry

AAP

November 09, 2009 08:33am

FRANCE, the world's most nuclearised country,
has backed a nuclear power industry in Australia.

The French government's environment ambassador
Laurent Stefanini says nuclear power is a good fit
for a country that has the world's largest uranium reserves.

Mr Stefanini said that going nuclear is a reliable
and useful way to avoid greenhouse gas emissions,
and there have been no major accidents in France.

Nearly 80 per cent of France's electricity
comes from nuclear reactors and
its emissions are about one-third
of Australia's on a per capita basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Umm...WHY 'did' he 'say' that,
WHEN 'did' he 'say' that,
and WHY is it IN THE NEWS, "NOW"?

vera susa
09-11-2009, 12:13 AM
World Breaking News

France backs Australian
nuclear power industry

AAP

November 09, 2009 08:33am

FRANCE, the world's most nuclearised country,
has backed a nuclear power industry in Australia.

The French government's environment ambassador
Laurent Stefanini says nuclear power is a good fit
for a country that has the world's largest uranium reserves.

Mr Stefanini said that going nuclear is a reliable
and useful way to avoid greenhouse gas emissions,
and there have been no major accidents in France.

Nearly 80 per cent of France's electricity
comes from nuclear reactors and
its emissions are about one-third
of Australia's on a per capita basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Umm...WHY 'did' he 'say' that,
WHEN 'did' he 'say' that,
and WHY is it IN THE NEWS, "NOW"?

Why NOW indeed...

went NOW, after a 2 week silence

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/09/845020/andre-agassi-300-300x368.jpg

'There is nothing about this
that isn't true'

Andre Agassi's had two weeks
to absorb the reaction
to his drug-taking revelation.
Now he's speaking out.


November 9, 2009

In his first published newspaper interview
since admitting he took the drug crystal meth,
Andre Agassi talks to Michael Donaldson
about the revelations in his autobiography,
Open.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/tennis/2009/11/08/1257614959658.html?autostart=1

"OPEN" the
EMPTY SPACE BELOW
this introduction and you
FIND....

THIS IMAGE:
http://www.performerawards.com.au/images/stories/performerawards_lunch_620x280.jpg
next to this one:
http://images.smh.com.au/ftsmh/ffximage/2009/11/09/agassi1_narrowweb__300x320,0.jpg

WATCH
FORD
AUSTRALIA
7:50

750
From Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia

Africa

* The Ghana Empire begins.

America

* Teotihuacan in Mexico is destroyed.


BUT>>>>

Ghana Empire
From Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia

The Ghana Empire or
Wagadou Empire
(existed c. 790-1076)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zsmmdZKBelM/Sai1gR8JTeI/AAAAAAAAB3A/ozlGiCakbfY/s400/IMG_0430.jpg

13-2-2009
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1265

http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/cheney.jpg

WAY TO GO DICK>>>>


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200702/r128142_503437.jpg
Cheney, Howard
'did deal on Hicks'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/23/2067496.htm

but "that" DEAL is only
a POPULAR Distraction from
THE BIG DEAL>>>>


Cheney: Iran seeks
weapons-grade uranium enrichment
Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:33 AM

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/eggCheney.jpg

WHERE, IN OZ,
OWNING OUR "URANIUM RAIL"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Ghan_route.png/180px-Ghan_route.png

http://www.antinuclear.net/images/uranium-trail..jpg


>http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200806/r259769_1079034.jpg<
http://www.newmatilda.com/admin/imageLibrary/images/broinowski-nukes-resizedqUlx5CA44IP3.jpg

Having your yellowcake and dumping it too:
Australia’s nuclear geopolitics
and the US alliance
12 October, 2007 — peoplesgeography.com

Adelaide to Darwin railway-
Kellogg, Brown and Rooted?

It still amazes me that
the CEO of Halliburton
so recently
slipped in and out
of South Australia
so quietly.
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/2363

But what's really TELLING
is that GOOGLE is NOW
AS BAD AS THIS SITE
at GIVING ME what I
SPECIFICALLY Search for...

That GHAN, Adelaide to Darwin COIN....

NOWHERE, NOHOW, will it give me an image!

vera susa
09-11-2009, 12:32 AM
TRULY, THIS IS "THE"
PROMISED LAND!

GOD KEEPS ALL His Promises!

So WHY DENY unless
YOU WANT TO DIE:confused:

Boom comes bouncing back

CLANCY YEATES
November 9, 2009

THE dust has barely settled
on the global financial crisis,
but there are already signs
the resources boom
is well on track
to eclipse its past highs.

Asia-bound shipments of iron ore from Port Hedland
have chalked up fresh records of more than 14 million tonnes
in each of the past three months, according to figures published
late last week.

Coal, the nation's top export,
is also being loaded on to ships through Newcastle
at the fastest pace in a year amid reports
of surging demand from Asian buyers.

Economists say these increases -
and reports of ships once again stretching
into the horizon at key ports -
point to a boom era in resources returning
far more quickly than most expected.

A currency strategist at Westpac, Jonathan Cavenagh,
said it was clear the slump had made only a slight indent
on the transformation of China and India into developed economies.
''The industrialisation of India and China
is still going to continue,'' he said.

''The global financial crisis may have
slowed it down a touch in 2008 … but really
it's just gone from strength to strength since then.''
This boded well for the Australian dollar,
the world's strongest-performing currency
in recent months.

In another sign of the return to boom times,
Westpac reports that 77 ships are queuing up
outside the Queensland coal port of Dalrymple Bay,
where the waiting times are at near record highs.

The rebound in demand is expected to give
a major kick to national income,
with contract prices of iron ore and coal -
worth tens of billions of dollars a year -
set to recover in 2010
after falling by about a third this year.

And later,
economists are predicting
a huge lift
in energy and mining
production
as record levels of
investment kick in.

On Friday the Reserve Bank said mining investment
now accounted for 5 per cent of the economy,
compared to 1.5 per cent earlier this decade.
The central bank said that from its
private discussions with
big miners and energy companies,
this level of investment
would expand even further,
provided a series of multibillion-dollar
liquefied natural gas projects
were given the green light.

Production of coal and iron ore would increase
by about a third in the next two years
as ports and other
infrastructure were upgraded,
the bank said.

But the most staggering increase is expected
in LNG -
where the Reserve Bank said
exports could increase fourfold,
eventually joining coal and iron ore
as Australia's biggest exports.

While the return to boom conditions fuels growth,
the Reserve pointed to inflationary risks,
such as labour shortages and cost blow-outs.

vera susa
09-11-2009, 01:40 AM
You DO KNOW, don't you...

that THE NET HAS ALREADY,
LONG BEEN, CENSORED...

stuff IS "WINSTONED AWAY"
ALL THE TIME!

It does NOT MATTER HOW SPECIFIC
your searches ARE, "They" WILL
SEND YOU TO OPPOSING VIEWS
if IT IS IMPORTANT REALITY
you request....

"They" LIED say it was an "about me" thing,
when what I've ALWAYS DONE IS REPORT
BEYOND SUSPECT "behaviour" of The NET
AND IT'S "STARS"...

anyway, not what I was after but will do
FOR NOW...

Sorry guys, but this is the best that the NET
will allow me to post on this topic...

This is NOT the coin for the
http://www.prospectstampsandcoins.com.au/web/royal_aust_mint/2004_coins/index.html
"SYDNEY to DARWIN Railway",
as MACQUARIE MINT advertises
but
DICK CHENEY'S URANIUM RAIL....

http://i33.tinypic.com/246w551.jpg

Halliburton's Railway Down Under Goes Under | Webdiary - Founded ...The answers are: Halliburton, Dick Cheney and Malcolm Kinnaird. In 1997, the year that Cheney visited Australia as Halliburton's CEO, the company bought ...
webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/2615 - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

The Guardian(Halliburton, Dick Cheney and Wartime Spoils) Halliburton in Australia KBR's ... highest profile work in Australia is the Alice Springs to Darwin railway. ...
www.cpa.org.au/garchve03/1137halliburton.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Having your yellowcake and dumping it too: Australia’s nuclear ...12 Oct 2007 ... Cheney visited Australia in the late-90s to negotiate the deal with .... then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney to discuss ‘joint facilities’ ...
peoplesgeography.com/2007/10/12/australias-nuclear-politics/ - 149k - Cached - Similar pages

Crikey Search - vice-president-dick-cheney2 Result(s) found for vice-president-dick-cheney. Previous ... The very largest elephant in Australia’s electoral room is the nuclear one -- and it is ...
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Taking the A Train | newmatilda.com1 Oct 2007 ... Cheney visited Australia in the late-90s to negotiate the deal with South ... Just after the railway line opened, a leader in the Australian ...
newmatilda.com/node/2498?ArticleID=2498&CategoryID=-1 - 70k - Cached - Similar pages

Rail, Tram & Bus Industry Union National OfficeObjects of the Australian Rail, Tram and Bus Industry Union Structure of the ... closely associated with US Vice-President Dick Cheney, and reported to be ...
rtbu-nat.asn.au/293.html - Similar pages

The Heart of Australia - Racism | Cat@lyst... the infamous war-profiteering company once run by US Vice President Dick Cheney. The project of a railway from Darwin to Adelaide had failed many times. ...
www.cat.org.au/node/92 - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

The World Today... World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz and US Vice President Dick Cheney. ... There's anger from Australia's rail union over a situation in Tasmania, ...
www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/indexes/2005/twt_20050929.htm - 28k - Cached - Similar pages

Work Starts This Month On Alice-Darwin Line | International ...Construction of the new Alice Springs-Darwin railway in Australia is expected to ... The project head is Mr Dick Cheney, a former United States Secretary of ...
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQQ/is_/ai_65171913 - 47k - Cached - Similar pages

CorpWatch : AUSTRALIA: Halliburton Expands Military Presence Downunder1 Mar 2005 ... The rail link, partly owned by the controversial Texan energy giant ... Headed by Dick Cheney, the US Vice-President, before he joined the ...
www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11911 - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

vera susa
09-11-2009, 01:43 AM
You DO KNOW, don't you...

that THE NET HAS ALREADY,
LONG BEEN, CENSORED...

stuff IS "WINSTONED AWAY"
ALL THE TIME!

It does NOT MATTER HOW SPECIFIC
your searches ARE, "They" WILL
SEND YOU TO OPPOSING VIEWS
if IT IS IMPORTANT REALITY
you request....

"They" LIED say it was an "about me" thing,
when what I've ALWAYS DONE IS REPORT
BEYOND SUSPECT "behaviour" of The NET
AND IT'S "STARS"...

anyway, not what I was after but will do
FOR NOW...

So WHY is it that such a MAJOR
"CONSPIRACY" site is EVEN WORSE
than Google
at NOT giving WHAT'S ASKED FOR
in a SPECIFIC SEARCH...:rolleyes: ;)

prozest
09-11-2009, 01:59 AM
was interested in this thread i thought you made a good point about children not being ready for school at age three or four . but it sort of drifted off a little after that . i think thats a great idea . children should get to develop there own personalities without social grooming which seems to turn them into lord of the flies esq monsters , but then not everyone would agree with that .

vera susa
09-11-2009, 02:00 AM
Bikers rally
in Snowies to fight
cancer

Posted 1 hour 58 minutes ago

* Map: Jindabyne 2627

More than 3,000 motorcyclists
rode through the New South Wales
Snowy Mountains
at the weekend to raise money
for children's cancer research.

The riders came from across the state
as well as Victoria and Queensland,
stopping at checkpoints throughout the south-east.

The Snowy Ride expects to raise
more than $300,000 for a foundation
set up by the parents of a 19-year-old
who died from cancer.

Organiser Alan McGuirk says
the number of bikers this year
topped last year's record
by more than 200.

"Without doubt it is the best Snowy Ride
we've had in nine years," he said.

"The weather has been superb, absolutely fabulous.

"Right through the
Snowy Region
we've had no accidents reported apart from
one minor and the police have given us
a really good tick of approval.

"We are really happy about it.
It was a great weekend."

Tags: charities-and-community-organisations,
act, jindabyne-2627

So, WHY FEATURE JINDABYNE....

...click on the tag...

Migrants reunite to remember
Snowy scheme

Feature

Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:42pm AEDT

Migrant workers have
reunited to remember
the 60th anniversary of the start of
the Snowy Mountains scheme.[MORE]

Tags: community-and-society,
immigration, work, nsw, jindabyne-2627,
wagga-wagga-2650

frase
09-11-2009, 02:40 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT THREAD ABOUT!?
Just crazy shit....
Go and play elsewhere.

vera susa
09-11-2009, 03:28 AM
was interested in this thread i thought you made a good point about children not being ready for school at age three or four . but it sort of drifted off a little after that . i think thats a great idea . children should get to develop there own personalities without social grooming which seems to turn them into lord of the flies esq monsters , but then not everyone would agree with that .

Ah yes, "The Drift"...drifted INTO the topic of
how we not only, "dumbed DOWN" GENERATIONS,
but WORSE, made kids grow into COLD, HARD,
SELFISH, GODLESS "ETERNAL BRATS"..."DESIGNED"
TO FIGHT GOD!

And I'm one of those who doesn't agree with
LETTING KIDS GROW WILD, as IT DOES turn them
into MONSTERS...EARLY CORRECTIONS DO SAVE
from LATER EXECUTIONS!

Oh don't worry, none of my kids got more than
three 'smacks' in their whole lives, didn't need
more, and they were EFFECTIVE BECAUSE...
"Mum DOESN'T SMACK, IT MUST BE SERIOUS!"

Correction comes in many forms, and it's a matter
of CARING to KNOW the INDIVIDUAL child and
applying the RIGHT type and DEGREE of correction
WHEN NEEDED, and EVERYONE NEEDS CORRECTION
because EVERYONE 'stuffs up' and 'drifts' into HARMFUL
'Ways' and IDEAS.

But GROWING WITH LOVING FAMILY ALWAYS THERE
TO praise AND WARN AND CORRECT, is what gave them
the CHARACTER to RESIST the EVILS SOLD as "freedom".

But funny, as I just got off the phone with my sons,
where much of the conversation was them CREDITING
the way they were RAISED for becoming Highly Respected
in their chosen field ... AGAINST ALL ODDS of what life
threw at them along the way ... and lots of other good stuff...:D ;)

Anyway, as it was, one was home schooled for a while,
and they all would have been, but for that GREAT, LITTLE,
Country School across the road, as the thought of "THEM"
stuffing my kids HEARTS and heads with SELFISH, SECULAR
BULLSHIT tormented me, and I must admit, I caused them
some DISapprovals when they WOULD speak against BS and
INJUSTICES inflicted on fellow school mates, due to what
I taught them about RIGHT and WRONG and TRUTH.

But back to that post...DoCS...also a product of GENERATIONS
of GODLESS, "Let 'em grow wild" practices, and ALL THOSE KIDS
they ASSIST IN BEING KILLED, likewise at the hand of "parents"
and "adults" that are products of the "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO",
UNLESS it IS TELLING ME TO BLAME and HATE GOD, GENERATIONS.

So now, THINK about it...The Conspiracy INDUSTRY stands on 2 'legs':
The ANTI- GOD Mobs and the RELIGIOUSLY DECEIVED who believe
all that "Moses led Israel out of EGYPT" WAY TOO SHORT 'TIME-Line',
BS!

BOTH LEGS, 'JACK BOOTING' THE SAME LIE that HIDES THE SECRET.

They MAKE SURE any REAL DISCUSSION about WHY ALL IGNORE
the FACT that "they" have STUCK to 'biblical' Times and Locations,
that ROME IMPOSED ON THE WORLD while still DENYING the KNOWN
EXISTENCE of the REST OF THE WHOLE WORLD that GOD DESCRIBED.

That NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO RE-VIEW HIS WORD
that DOES DESCRIBE ALL THE WORLD OVER ALL TIME,
in ALL of "Conspiracy Land", without being attacked by
those of the ANTI-GOD RELIGIONS that DOMINATE
the Conspiracy INDUSTRY, should in itself WAKE folk UP...

but nah, it's POPULAR to DREAM your 'awake' and HATE
all who LOVE The Creator, and it takes INTEGRITY to CHOSE
HARD TRUTH over SMOOTH LIES!

vera susa
09-11-2009, 03:48 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT THREAD ABOUT!?
Just crazy shit....
Go and play elsewhere.

O.K. I'll be 'nice' and pretend this is
'a genuine question'...

The Conspiracy INDUSTRY is a
MAJOR part of THE CONSPIRACY...

You do know what THE CONSPIRACY IS, don't you?
Or else WHY SUCH VIOLENTLY RUDE 'defence' of it :rolleyes:!

So now, THINK about it...The Conspiracy INDUSTRY stands on 2 'legs':
The ANTI- GOD Mobs and the RELIGIOUSLY DECEIVED who believe
all that "Moses led Israel out of EGYPT" WAY TOO SHORT 'TIME-Line',
BS!

BOTH LEGS, 'JACK BOOTING' THE SAME LIE that HIDES THE SECRET.

They MAKE SURE any REAL DISCUSSION about WHY ALL IGNORE
the FACT that "they" have STUCK to 'biblical' Times and Locations,
that ROME IMPOSED ON THE WORLD while still DENYING the KNOWN
EXISTENCE of the REST OF THE WHOLE WORLD that GOD DESCRIBED.

That NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO RE-VIEW HIS WORD
that DOES DESCRIBE ALL THE WORLD OVER ALL TIME,
in ALL of "Conspiracy Land", without being attacked by
those of the ANTI-GOD RELIGIONS that DOMINATE
the Conspiracy INDUSTRY, should in itself WAKE folk UP...

but nah, it's POPULAR to DREAM your 'awake' and HATE
all who LOVE The Creator, and it takes INTEGRITY to CHOSE
HARD TRUTH over SMOOTH LIES!


But then, I do have integrity and I DO CARE for
the lives of the DECEIVED, so I SHOW the countless
"Ways" "THEY" KEEP UP THE DECEPTION, while,
'whistling their fellow traitorous Dogs, HOME',
to THE GLORIOUS LAND GOD PROMISED to
The RE-Gathered Tribes of Lost, Scattered, Mixed
and Mingled ISRAEL, and HOW YOU CAN RECOGNISE
THE TRUTH of GOD'S WORD...studying what IS REAL,
in this WHOLE, REAL World that GOD DESCRIBED,
FROM THE BEGINNING!

But don't worry your little head too much,
I am only one lone voice in the wilderness,
who so far has only found one other with
THE INTEGRITY to admit THEY GET IT and
DO and SHARE THEIR OWN STUDY INTO
THE SUBJECT...that this INDUSTRY WAS
DESIGNED to KEEP HIDDEN, so can you,
at least allow us this one tiny little space,
to make those findings available for those
who do care to explore what NO ONE ELSE DOES?

I mean, as someone pointed out, 90% of the posts
are mine, so that means 90% of Over 16,000 READERS
ARE at least interested enough to KEEP READING :) ;)

vera susa
09-11-2009, 04:06 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT THREAD ABOUT!?
Just crazy shit....
Go and play elsewhere.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86338

Now,
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT POST OF YOURS ABOUT!?
Just crazy shit...
Go and play at silencing those exposing
The Catholic Secret Agenda elsewhere...
oh sorry, there is NOWHERE ELSE :rolleyes: :p !

vera susa
09-11-2009, 04:38 AM
O.K. then, a little more BACKGROUND
for genuine newbies who aren't familiar
with what I was showing on 'the other thread'.

But again, I must stress that NO SEARCH FUNCTION
will take me to the topics I ask for, so it's a sort of,
lucky dip method of manually searching among years of posts,
which means that I'm unable to gather all the KEY points in
any sort of continuous order, particularly as so much of what
I have posted NO LONGER SHOWS on the PUBLIC thread, so
I also have to go to quote boxes to find what HAS BEEN HIDDEN.

Yes, and "Lucky" it seems to be...

WINSTON, the character in the book
1984 (Big Brother), had the job of
DELETING FACTS that EXPOSED 'Big Brother'
for what it was...and just when I've again mentioned
how often what I KNOW WAS there, has been,
"WINSTONED",
THIS on my first page of manual searching:

Well, STONE the Crows,
the more tintin works on the "Madeline" thread,
the more it fits THE, "News behind the News" on this one;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175980&postcount=1603

WINSTON Churchill,
JOHN WINSTON Howard,
JOHN WINSTON Lennon....

http://www.naa.gov.au/Images/lennon-card-200_tcm2-7425.jpg
http://www.naa.gov.au/whats-on/online/find-of-the-month/past-years/2005/september.aspx

There's an interesting mark on John's card.
It appears he first ticked the box marked ‘single' but then crossed it out
and ticked the box marked ‘married'.
His marriage to Cynthia was not common knowledge at the time.
Perhaps he first considered keeping it secret,
but then thought better of it on an official form.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Julian_Lennon_Valotte.jpg
"Too Late For Goodbyes"

Although further US success eluded JULIAN LENNON post-Valotte, he hit
#5 in Australia with the 1989 single
"Now You're In Heaven".
Two years later,
"Saltwater"
reached #6 in the UK and
topped the Australian singles charts for four weeks.

MR. JORDAN
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dre100/e154/e1547218kv3.jpg
"Now You're in Heaven"

http://www.heyjules.com/images/discography/helpyourself.jpg
"Saltwater"
"Get A Life"



Ah and there is MORE...

WILLIAM Greider's New Book,
"ONE WORLD, READY OR NOT."
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0684811413.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
From Asia to Zurich, there's no place to hide -
That is the general thesis, at least, of a new book by William Greider, entitled One World, Ready or Not: The Manic Logic of Global Capitalism. ...
www.onecountry.org/oc92/oc9216as.html
(you'll 'love' THAT link!)

And the image search of that book also offered...

http://www.scarlet.nl/~gugten/pictures/remaster-promo.jpg

To promote the release of the digitally remastered albums
a "radio only promo" sampler (catelogue number : 588 626-2)
was released in the UK.
The sampler features a song from six of the digitally remastered albums
and comes in a thin jewel case. The songs are:

1. If You Love Somebody (Set Them Free)
2. Englishman In New York
3. One World (Not Three)/Love Is The Seventh Wave
4. All This Time
5. If I Ever Lose My Faith In You
6. Let Your Soul Be Your Pilot

but there was another KEY name on that magazine cover...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Silverchair-AcrossTheGreatDivide.jpg/800px-Silverchair-AcrossTheGreatDivide.jpg
Silverchair
performs at the
Across the Great Divide Tour
in 2007.

Silverchair is an influential Australian rock band.
The group has had more top twenty hits in Australian charts
during the last decade than any other local artist.
Additionally, they have sold over six million albums worldwide.

LOTS more;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverchair

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/TheSilverChair%281stEd%29.jpg

...they have reached the Underland. They are placed on a boat and
rowed for uncounted days across a "Sunless Sea"...
LOTS more;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silver_Chair

Silverchair Science+Communications
is a technology and publishing services firm
that develops networked information resources
for owners of medical content.

Silverchair’s product development
and implementation process includes:

* Extensive research of business needs,
content assets, and market forces

* Configuring appropriate technology solutions

* Comprehensive content management and maintenance

* Ongoing usage analysis and resulting application enhancement

* Marketing consultation and tools to
maximize market penetration and profitability

So look up WIKIPEDIA for ROCK BAND INFO. and you get;

This article is about the band.
For the C. S. Lewis novel, see The Silver Chair.
For Silverchair Science+Communications,
see Silverchair Science+Communications.




http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175894&postcount=1602

Nah tintin, you're just seeing
Holy Scripture being fulfilled.

Those "MIGHTY MEN of OLD" (NOT angels)
who TOOK and bred with
any woman who "Looked Hot",
rather than would make GOOD mothers;

ESAU,
EDOM,
BENJAMIN,
those RED HAIRED, NORTHERN
BULLY BOYS,
famous for what the
VIKING/DUTCH/SCOTS
are famous for;
BERSERK FIGHTING and
VERY FLEXIBLE "loyalties".

GENESIS 29:47
Benjamin is a wolf, searching for meat:
in the morning he takes his food,
and in the evening he makes division
of what he has taken.

BENJAMIN, the Tribe that
NEARLY DIED OUT
due to their LUST
for TAKING and RAPING
ANY "MEAT" they desired,
and so having the rest of
ISRAEL REFUSED to give them
WIVES.

They had to "restock" with
women NOT of ISRAEL.

So makes sense they still
have a GRUDGE AGAINST ISRAEL,
and CHOOSE to "lord" ANTI-CHRIST
GERMANY & SPAIN.

And yes, here they are now,
in the "NIGHT" of human history,
"DIVIDING THE SPOILS" of their
CONQUERED Lands, among their
ANTI-CHRIST ALLIES.

Ha, and what a FITTING,
"BIG PICTURE" the BBC gives us
to go with "TIMELY" post!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1193739761/img/1.jpg

http://www.worldofthebible.com/images/BattleTempleCVR.jpg

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176207&postcount=1611

Yes, as tintin keeps pointing out:

IT'S INSANE THAT THE WHOLE WORLD
KEEPS KILLING OVER THIS
USELESS BIT OF DESERT WASTELAND,
WHEN THERE ARE ONLY 21 MILLION PEOPLE
IN OIL, URAMIUM AND "EVERYTHING" RICH,
OZ[ION]!

As for THAT "person" of the previous post,
"THEY" are either a KNOW NOTHING FOOL,
or LOW GRADE DIS-INFO. AGENT.

Oh, and for those new to the case we're presenting,
it was my interests in EUROPEAN, AFRICAN,
SOUTH AMERICAN and then CHINESE/ASIAN
historic and archaeological "ANOMALIES", that
wouldn't let me ignore AUSTRALIA'S FIT as ZION.

Heard of "SECRET MENS BUSINESS",
"SECRET WOMENS BUSINESS",
that "First Contact" white men were
greeted with a MASONIC HANDSHAKE!

Either there is A Creator of THE WHOLE WORLD,
as Holy Scripture DESCRIBES, or ALL that,
"...out of 'EGYPT'", CRAP is JUST THAT!

vera susa
09-11-2009, 05:00 AM
Anyway, I was looking for STING'S
New Album being FEATURED on
AUSSIE SBS (MULTI-CULTURAL) TV
(inspired by that last find), and SEE
what pops right up...

From:
May 23, 2009...11:43 pm
http://gooddeedaday.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/day-332-sting-sting-a-song/

Did you know:

Renowned photographer
Francesco Scavullo shot this photo in
1984,
the year “The Police” broke up. ...
um... the scarf is by Halston.


Sting did not wear this at
Thursday's concert.

http://gooddeedaday.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/sting.jpg


Sting’s real name is
Gordon Matthew Sumner.

He got his nickname because of the
yellow-and-black
striped rugby shirt
he used to wear.
[So he might just as
easily have been called
Bumblebee?]

Sting started his career playing
cruise ships and cabarets.

http://store.weamea.com/store1/discs/images/20091007/18/62084f426dc24b3496e4e58d6dc0f752.jpg
http://stingwintersnight.com/
HEAR and SEE this interview...
btw, the DOG is an ENGLISH POINTER!

vera susa
09-11-2009, 05:21 AM
An ENGLISH "POINTER"...

http://herbert-w-armstrong.com/books/UNITEDST/united_states_prophesy_cover.gif

Still stuck on that JEWISH/EGYPT FALSE Time-Line,
but a handy introduction to the FACT that GOD DID
TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE World Over ALL TIME...

...anyway, again, The TIMING of finding Sting's
ENGLISH "POINTER"
and these posts...:) ;)

Right,
GIBRALTAR,
PILLARS of HERCULES,
a "SEAGATE"....

30 October 2007, 00:27 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/default.stm

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44205000/jpg/_44205323_seagate_new_2203.jpg
Seagate has been in the area for 10 years
More than 900 computer jobs to go
Seagate Technology's base in Limavady,
Co Londonderry,
is to close with the loss of hundreds of jobs.


N IRELAND'S BIG PICTURE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1193651354/img/1.jpg
A wall-walking gargoyle provided some thrills at a Halloween howler event
at Carrickfergus Castle in County Antrim over the weekend.

Funny, but combine
"SEAGATE"
and a CANNON on the COAST,
and instantly I'm reminded that
in BOTH WORLD WARS,
The FIRST SHOTS BY
THE BRITISH EMPIRE
were FIRED FROM
AUSTRALIA!




I love these stories.
The constant reminders that "THEY" LIE
when "THEY TELL us what's what about History.

"They" just MAKE UP whatever SELLS the LIE
that Moses led Israel out of 'Egypt', not even
needing the 'BODIES' of EVIDENCE!

Oh fine for "Them" to "make discoveries"
that OVERTURN what was "accepted",
but when we do it....

Vanuatu bones may
solve Pacific mystery

October 30, 2007 - 4:35PM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Vanuatu-bones-may-solve-Pacific-mystery/2007/10/30/1193618868202.html

A 3,000-year-old burial site
in Vanuatu containing 60
headless skeletons and skulls
in pots
is helping end the mystery
over colonisation of the Pacific
and the first Polynesians,
archaeologists say.

The remains have enabled scientists to reconstruct the lives and habits
of the seafaring Lapita people, who settled Vanuatu, New Caledonia,
Fiji, Tonga and Samoa from Melanesian islands scattered to the west.

"We've got the archaeological record,
but until now
the actual people have been missing
from the story,"
researcher Stuart Bedford,
from the Australian National University, told Reuters.

The remains were found in 2003 at an archaeological dig on Efate Island,
in the tiny South Pacific nation of Vanuatu, in a cemetery in use by the
Lapita at the time of Egypt's Pharaohs.
(see, "They" can't help themselves!
Why the HELL drag "Egypt" into it?!!!)

The Lapita are believed to be ancestral Polynesians,
moving east from Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands
over thousands of miles of ocean, taking with them their crops
and animals.

The burial site at Teouma, on the southern coast of Efate,
was first uncovered by bulldozers clearing land for a shrimp farm,
and was excavated by scientists from Britain, New Zealand and Australia.

The skeletons were buried with
ornate ceramic pots,
some in carefully laid
south-facing graves,
and in one case three heads
were laid on the dead person's chest,
the researchers wrote in an October article
for the journal American Antiquity.

None of the remains had an attached skull
and the heads may have been removed after burial,
the researchers said, with the grouping of three skulls
possibly due to mystical significance
the islanders had for the number.

Bedford said chemical analysis of their teeth
revealed vital information about the origins,
diets and burial practices of the Lapita.

At least four of the 60 had migrated
from distant coastal locations,
possibly as far as Southeast Asia.

"Although they travelled
long distances by sea,
they nonetheless were farmers
as much as they were fisher folk,"
said Alex Bentley,
from Durham University,
who led the team.

vera susa
09-11-2009, 05:45 AM
Yep, TIME and TIMING BELONGS TO GOD!

The very next old post I find, also,
RIGHT ON TIMELY TOPIC...

So, thanks to RANDWICK Racecourse
upsetting CARDINAL GEORGE PELL,
and having Horse Flu brought in,
(well that's my take, and I'm keeping it!),
THE RACE THAT STOPS A NATION,
THE MELBOURNE CUP,
only has 3 foreign horses running.

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/photogallery/medium/2007/UK07_5197.JPG
The TRACK RIDER, Francesca Cumani, of this one
(o.k. she's the Trainers daughter to) even got a sound bite on last night's News.

The horse is ENGLISH
and called PURPLE MOON.

Anyway, this years CUP, certainly does seem worth following,
as far as CODE READING goes, so for all you names and numbers folk;

Latest Order of Entries

Elimination Order - 2nd Acceptors as at 29 October 2007
Benchmark Weights 3 50.0
3f 48.5
4 58.0 Northern Hemisphere-bred 4yo's allowed 2.5kg
4m 56.5
5+ 59.5
5m 58.0

Exempt - Winner 2007 BMW Caulfield Cup
=1 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) (Danny O'Brien) 5 g 53.0*
* inc 3.0kg penalty
Exempt - Winner 2007 Australian Stayers Challenge
=1 GALLIC (NZ) (Graeme Rogerson) 8 g 55.0
Passed ballot clause as of 29 October 2007: Total 31
3 SCORPION (IRE) (Aidan O'Brien) 6 h 58.5
4 TAWQEET (USA) (David Hayes) 6 h 56.5
5 MISS FINLAND (David Hayes) 4 m 53.0
6 EFFICIENT (NZ) (Graeme Rogerson) 4 g 54.0
7 BLUE MONDAY (GB) (David Hayes) 7 g 55.5
8 RAILINGS (Roger James) 6 g 55.0
9 BLUTIGEROO (Colin Little) 6 g 55.0
10 PRINCESS COUP (Mark Walker) 4 m 50.5
11 ZIPPING (Graeme Rogerson) 6 g 53.5
12 MAYBE BETTER (Brian Mayfield-Smith) 5 g 53.5
13 ESKIMO QUEEN (NZ) (Michael Moroney) 4 m 50.5
14 LAZER SHARP (NZ) (David Hayes) 4 g 52.0
15 TUNGSTEN STRIKE (USA) (Amanda Perrett) 7 g 53.5
16 BLACK TOM (David Hayes) 7 h 53.0
17 PURPLE MOON (IRE) (Luca Cumani) 5 g 53.0
18 MAHLER (GB) (Aidan O'Brien) 4 h 50.0
19 SIRMIONE (Bart Cummings) 4 g 51.0
20 ON A JEUNE (Andrew Payne) 7 g 52.0
21 SCENIC SHOT (Dan Morton) 5 g 52.0
22 MANDELA (NZ) (Richard Yuill) 6 h 52.0
23 SARRERA (Michael Moroney) 7 g 51.5
24 DOURO VALLEY (Danny O'Brien) 6 g 51.0*
* inc 0.5kg penalty
25 DOLPHIN JO (Terry & Karina O'Sullivan) 5 g 51.0*
* inc 1.0kg penalty
26 NEW KID IN TOWN (NZ) (Lee Freedman) 6 g 51.0
27 THE FUZZ (NZ) (David Hayes) 5 g 51.0*
* inc 1.0kg penalty
28 SCULPTOR (NZ) (Peter Mackenzie) 5 h 50.5
29 DESERT MASTER (Brian Jenkins) 6 g 50.0
30 ZAVITE (NZ) (Anthony Cummings) 5 h 50.0
31 SENTIRE (NZ) (Robbie Laing) 6 g 50.0
32 BAY STORY (USA) (Brian Ellison) 6 h 50.0
33 SOUTHERN COURAGE (NZ) (Mick Price) 5 g 50.0
Total: 33
Not passed ballot clause as at 29 October 2007: Total 6
34 KING OF ASHFORD (NZ) (Lee Freedman) 7 g 52.0
35 ANNENKOV (IRE) (Peter Moody) 6 h 51.5*
36 UTILITY (NZ) (Pat Carey) 6 g 50.5
37 CEFALU (CHI) (Lee Freedman) 6 g 50.0
38 PACINO (Clinton McDonald) 4 g 50.0
39 BEST BEWARE (Lindsey Smith) 3 c 49.0

Final Declaration: $41,250 5 pm Saturday 3 November 2007

and...

EDGING OUT
The ORANGE COLOURS
of PURPLE MOON...

http://z.about.com/d/horseracing/1/0/T/P/2/melb07-1a.jpg

Efficient wins the 2007 Melbourne Cup

btw, also one of the
MOST OFFERED IMAGES
when Googling MELBOURNE CUP...

"Run Forest!...Run!...
Fly, Emirates! Fly...!...

...to THE Place To BE and LIVE...

...to QUOTE VICTORIA and BALLARAT!"

vera susa
09-11-2009, 05:55 AM
What else can I say?
"Asked" what this thread is about,
and these are the old posts that
just happened to come up...

Boy there's some weird "timing" on this thread.
I was just reading neo2 being hoed into on

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12904

over noticing the, in this case,
BLOODY OBVIOUS "Messages"
in movies, and decided not to get involved
(if you read this, neo2, GOOD ONYA!),
because the best answer would be to
direct "Them" to this thread, and well,
"They've" WORKED SO HARD
at AVOIDING ANY ATTEMPT
at a Counter Argument to what we present,
even to the point of shutting down a whole site....

But that "CULTURED ENGLISHMAN" COVER,
works a treat...for some
bizarre reason I haven't figured out!

Like CRICKETS OZZIE, SIR DONALD BRADMAN.
Held up as a 'Perfect Gentleman'...yeah right!
Even long after his DEATH, the GUY STILL RULES :eek:

Still the 'hint' is in that term, "BRITISH ISRAELITES",
that a lesser number than you'd expect in 'Conspiracy Land',
do 'peek into', but don't go FAR BACK ENOUGH into.

They keep forgetting all the ROYAL 'COUSINS' of BRITISH ROYALS,
and that "They" to, have LONG TERM, ENTRENCHED, INVESTMENTS
in this GLORIOUS, RICH Land that "THEY" AGREED TO HIDE
for HUNDREDS OF YEARS...while sending all the "POOR HUDDLED MASSES"
to OVER-POPULATE AMERICA...a land in which, the weather alone,
KILLS PEOPLE EVERY SEASON, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

But as we've been SEEING here,
"They" have kept "Their elect" informed
about where they're at in the plan
to CLAIM The Promised Land,
and when TIME'S RUNNING SHORT
to move to the 'Safe Haven',
before the Great War in The North.

But read that 'list' of movies by KEN ANNAKIN,
like so many other KEY 'PLAYERS', and you SEE
a "SCRIPT" rather than a random 'list', don't you.
Thanks for sharing it, great find!

vera susa
09-11-2009, 06:22 AM
Yep, TIME and TIMING BELONGS TO GOD!

The very next old post I find, also,
RIGHT ON TIMELY TOPIC...



and...

EDGING OUT
The ORANGE COLOURS
of PURPLE MOON...

http://z.about.com/d/horseracing/1/0/T/P/2/melb07-1a.jpg

Efficient wins the 2007 Melbourne Cup

btw, also one of the
MOST OFFERED IMAGES
when Googling MELBOURNE CUP...

"Run Forest!...Run!...
Fly, Emirates! Fly...!...

...to THE Place To BE and LIVE...

...to QUOTE VICTORIA and BALLARAT!"


So who was that BUSH SAID,
"KILLED ALL THE MANDELAS"?

LIER, he didn't kill the African SHILL,
or this horse;
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/images/stories/news/front_page/Mandela.jpg
MANDELA
MANDELA CLAIMS VICTORY
IN THE PETSTOCK
GEELONG CUP
New Zealand trainer Richard Yuill
and jockey Craig Williams
have combined to win the $150,000 Group 3
PETstock
Geelong Cup (2400m)
with Mandela.

GEELONG GRAMMAR SCHOOL:
PRINCE CHARLES of WALES,
RUPERT MURDOCH,
SIR ALEX DOWNER,
etc.

And just look where he is in the current
MELBOURNE CUP listing;

(and EVERTON was known as
"THE BLACK WATCH"
UNTIL The Year of
AUSTRALIA'S FEDERATION,
1901!)

16 BLACK TOM (David Hayes) 7 h 53.0
17 PURPLE MOON (IRE) (Luca Cumani) 5 g 53.0
18 MAHLER (GB) (Aidan O'Brien) 4 h 50.0
19 SIRMIONE (Bart Cummings) 4 g 51.0
20 ON A JEUNE (Andrew Payne) 7 g 52.0
21 SCENIC SHOT (Dan Morton) 5 g 52.0
22 MANDELA (NZ) (Richard Yuill) 6 h 52.0

But I was looking for the PEDIGREE of this horse
(pedigrees, like lists of 'artists' works, read more
like scripts of 'past & future History', than anything else!),
featuring in THE SPORT OF KINGS in
"THE RACE THAT STOPS A NATION",
when I was led to and AMERICAN horse that brings us
STRAIGHT BACK TO OZ....and so much more besides...

The Tin Man
(foaled February 18, 1998 in Kentucky)
is an American thoroughbred gelding racehorse.
He was sired by the great Affirmed,
the last horse to win the Triple Crown
of Thoroughbred Racing
out of the unplaced Lizzie Rolfe
by another great horse, Tom Rolfe.
TRAINER: RICHARD MANDELLA

Owner: Ralph E. & Aury Todd
Breeder: Ralph E. & Aury Todd
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 31 Starts: 13 - 8 - 2, $3,663,780 as of 10/6/07

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tin_Man_(horse)

And have a go at "reading" this Pedigree,
which connects to
SPIDERMAN'S SEABISCUIT,
via WAR ADMIRAL,
and some 'fun names' like;
DANCING LIZ,
NORTHERN DANCER,
CRIMSON QUEEN,
GOOD BLOOD,
CRIMSON SATAN,
SPY SONG....
http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+tin+man2

Oh, and it includes a KEY sire behind one of my horses,
which always tickles me to see behind Champions,
because the only bidder I was up against was the 'Meatman',
and I couldn't understand why no one else saw her Quality!

Right you say, but what's this to do with
'Today's news'?

Well besides the fact that I've spent years
posting FUTURE NEWS, it's basically a COUNTER,
a REMEDY if you will, to the NON-STOP FLOOD
of FALSE 'world views' that the 'news' and OTHER
(DARK) "Arts" media, POISON us with daily.

Like STING going straight from "TERROR"
to "JESUS" in his NEW "WINTER" album
interview...and as you CAN SEE, NOTHING
on that site is an "accident"!

An exercise to practice SEEING and HEARING
through "Their" DOUBLE SPEAK, so you CAN
also SEE and HEAR that "They" KNOW "OZ"
IS The Glorious Land God DESCRIBES, BECAUSE
"They" to, DO KNOW GOD EXISTS but HATE and
WANT TO FIGHT HIM anyway, with ALL FLESH to be
The ULTIMATE "CANNON FODDER" :mad: !

vera susa
09-11-2009, 08:01 AM
TRUTH: probably the most abused word
on conspiracy forums...just like everywhere else...

...but the INSANE thing on forums, on this,
ELECTRONIC, DIGITAL medium, is FLOODS
of DIGITAL images used to "Prove a Point???"...

...and ABUSE those who WILL NOT BUY THE LIES.

Oh yes, I do use a lot of images in my posts,
but THE POINT of that IS TO SHOW just how much
trouble EDITORS/PROGRAMMERS go to INVENT
FALSE "World Views" while "LAUGHING AT US" with
with 'a nod and wink' to their associates 'IN THE LOOP'.

So anyway, the next time you're TEMPTED ... and yes,
"They" ARE DELIBERATELY TEMPTING YOU...to 'TRUST'
or 'BELIEVE' ANY thing or ONE that's been touched by
DIGITAL BLACK 'magic', REMEMBER this bit of NEWS ;)



How old is this woman?

by Paul Colgan

30 Oct 05:59am

The image with digital retouching
by Abbie Muntz of FauxPink.
http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/ThePunch_V1c_low-res_fl.jpg
The image with digital retouching
by Abbie Muntz of FauxPink.

This is a digitally enhanced photo of
Sydney woman Deborah Luckie.
She’s 50 years old.

A picture of her as she appears
in real life is down the page.

If you were to see a photo of Deborah in a magazine,
the photo above is how she could, potentially, appear
after digital retouching.

After a week of hype over model
Sarah Murdoch appearing “untouched”
on a magazine cover and the launch of
a national body image initiative,
the treated photo was commissioned
to illustrate how removed from reality
faces and bodies in the media can be.

The original picture was retouched by
digital image specialist Abbie Muntz of FauxPink,
who writes in detail on The Punch
today about her trade.

Signs of ageing have been removed
and Ms Luckie has effectively
been given a digital facelift.

Ms Luckie said she laughed at first
when she saw the processed image
but was shocked by the result.

“It makes me look like I’m back in my twenties,”
she said.

For some people seeing themselves like this
could be depressing, Ms Luckie said.

“It could make you feel not as confident
with the way you look now - which is not me -
but it makes you look at all your features
that you do have and you think ‘Wow, I’ve aged’.”

The unedited photograph.
Picture: Charles Brewer
http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/deborah_luckie.jpg
The unedited photograph.
Picture: Charles Brewer

For comparison, here are the two
images alongside each other.
http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/combined.jpg
The original and processed photos side by side.

* Abbie Muntz: My life as a digital retoucher
* Kate Ellis: Moving past the blame game on body image
* Sophie Mirabella: The fear making mothers invisible
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/how-old-is-this-woman/

vera susa
09-11-2009, 09:49 AM
The 7PM Project Just had

BEN ELTON on as a panel guest...

now, I've posted on FAMOUS FOREIGNERS
who all but LIVE HERE in AUSTRALIA,
basically just popping back to
their OLD Countries to renew their AUSSIE visas
and NOT DRAW ATTENTION to the PLANNED EXODUS...

See "They" BLINDED US to the LOCATIONS
that God DESCRIBED with the FALSE Time Line
so "Their" PLANS are NOT based on
http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-100/0211-1/%7B163878FC-E31D-4B3C-9343-FB9DFCB6FEDF%7DImg100.jpg
A dark, savagely comic novel from the bestselling author of Chart Throb...

Imagine a world where
everyone knows everything
about everybody.

Where 'sharing' is valued above all,
and privacy is considered a dangerous perversion.
Trafford wouldn't call himself a rebel,
but he's daring to be different,
to stand out from the crowd.
In his own small ways,
he wants to push against the system.

But in this world, uniformity is everything.
And even tiny defiances won't go unnoticed.

Ben Elton's dark, savagely comic novel imagines
a post-apocalyptic society where
religious intolerance
combines with a sex-obsessed,
utterly egocentric culture.

In this world, nakedness is modesty,
independent thought subversive,
and ignorance is wisdom.

A chilling vision of what's to come?
Or something rather closer to home?

~~~~~~~~~~~

WOW, book sounds like my posts:D ;) ...anyway,
BEN ELTON, who's father was
a JEWISH REFUGEE, as he also 'mentioned' TONIGHT,
is one of those Famous Foreigners I've featured, and
he also announced that he was....

MOVING HIS FAMILY HERE, PERMANENTLY,
to RAISE HIS KIDS HERE, in GOOD OLD OZ!

Oh, and he also announced his latest book...

http://img.tesco.com/pi/Books/L/23/9780593061923.jpg
For amiable City trader Jimmy Corby
money was the new Rock n' Roll.

His whole life was a party,
adrenalin charged and cocaine fuelled.
If he hadn't met Monica he would probably have ended up
either dead or in rehab.

But Jimmy was as lucky in love as he was at
betting on dodgy derivatives,
so instead of burning out,
his star just burned brighter than ever.

Rich, pampered and successful, Jimmy, Monica
and their friends lived the dream,
bringing up their children with an army of domestic helps.

But then it all came crashing down.
And when the global financial crisis hit,
Jimmy discovers that anyone can handle success.

It's how you handle failure that really matters.

vera susa
09-11-2009, 11:54 AM
Media Release

CSIRO


CSIRO co-hosts Australia’s first ICT summit in China
Reference: 09/205
The first summit between Australia and China on the topic of future information and communication technologies (ICT) is underway in Shanghai.
9 November 2009

CSIRO Group Executive Information Sciences and
ICT Centre Director Dr Alex Zelinsky at
the first Australia-China Information and
Communication Technologies Summit.
http://www.csiro.au/files/images/ptj2.gif
CSIRO Group Executive Information Sciences and
ICT Centre Director Dr Alex Zelinsky (second from right)
at the first Australia-China
Information and Communication Technologies Summit.



Sponsored by CSIRO and the Science and Technology Commission of Shanghai Municipality, the summit brings together almost 70 policy makers, industrial leaders and prominent researchers to focus on wireless broadband, sensor networks and e-health.

"These are three important areas for our economy, environment and our wellbeing," CSIRO Information Sciences Group Executive Dr Alex Zelinsky said in his opening remarks as Honorary Co-Chair of the summit.

"Australia’s planned national broadband network will serve as a technology platform for the further development of these three areas," Dr Zelinsky said.

The summit brings together almost 70 policy makers, industrial leaders and prominent researchers to focus on wireless broadband, sensor networks and e-health.

"For example, giving all Australians access to the same level of high quality healthcare regardless of where they live, enabling large scale networks of intelligent sensors that monitor our environment, and facilitating the establishment of smart energy grids."

"Australia has a proud history in ICT research, with CSIRO playing a leading role in ICT technology development.

"We are working with other Australian R&D organisations and, as today’s event exemplifies, we are working very closely with our colleagues in China."

Collaborations between Australia and China in ICT have been growing steadily.

March this year saw the formation of the Australia-China Research Centre for Wireless Communications, a collaboration led by CSIRO and Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications that has already attracted 14 partners.

"This summit furthers our work fostering broad, higher level collaborations which we began by establishing the Centre," CSIRO ICT scientist and Australia-China Research Centre for Wireless Communications Director Dr Jay Guo said.

"These relationships
will have
a long-lasting
positive effect on
the prosperity of
our two nations."

The two-day summit
concludes today in Shanghai.

Read more media releases in our Media section.

http://www.csiro.au/news/ICT-summit.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The purpose for making the WHOLE World
BLINDLY "Accept" the FALSE, WAY TOO SHORT,
"TIME-LINE", is that people then DON'T RECOGNISE
what God DESCRIBED, that IS CLEAR for ALL to SEE.

THE TRIBES of ISRAEL SCATTERED, MIXED and MINGLED,
LONG BEFORE THE CONTINENTS got to where they were
during the 'Africa' period "They" LIE we 'advanced from'.

EVEN DNA SAYS that AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINALS
ARE THE "FIRST/OLDEST" 'FAMILY', then MIXED
with SOUTH AMERICAN, then BOTH with African,
and ALL, JUST AS GOD DESCRIBES.

So WHY won't ANY RELIGIONS or CONSPIRACY GURUS
ASK...

...AS God described the Super-Continent,
and PERATH was one of the 4 River Heads,
that came from the Great River that watered
EDEN, and NOT 'the Euphrates' as they CHANGED
PERATH to, in order to "fit" it in "All The Earth" 'They"
claimed they knew and to "fit" it to Egypt,
WHY hasn't ANYONE
RE-MAPPED SCRIPTURAL LOCATIONS NOW,
FROM THE SUPER-CONTINENT AGE, that GOD,
TOLD US ABOUT FROM THE BEGINNING,
and FOLLOWED the UNCHANGED HISTORIES
of MAN AND LANDS FROM THEN?

vera susa
09-11-2009, 08:25 PM
"Good News Week",
last night.

(Another of our programmes that,
"Tells the TRUTH to those,
'In The Loop', through 'JOKES'
and 'RANDOM COMMENTS'")

And CHOCK FULL
of what I've been posting
for YEARS.

I can't quote the whole show,
so here are just some random features
from each part, to whet your appetite,
but there's SO MUCH MORE>>>
so watch it with,
DE-CODING EYES & EARS ;)


"OUR HORROR MOVIES
SCARE OFF TOURISTS"

"He didn't care if it was
a boy or a girl, so long as it
WASN'T A JEW"


"A MUSLIN WIFE SWAPPING PARTY
IS JUST LIKE PASS THE PARCEL"


"Wednesday is Remembrance Day,
plus the anniversary of Ned Kelly's Hanging
and the Whitlam Dismissal;
LEST WE FORGET,
SUCH IS LIFE,
NOW PISS OFF"


"Excuse me, at what point
did you think this was a Democracy?"
"Don't make us
GET THE TANKS OUT!"
"What's a DOG to THINK?"

"I was a GERMAN Teacher,
well I wasn't GERMAN when I was a Teacher,
I wasn't
TAKING OVER OTHER CLASS ROOMS
FOR NO APPARENT REASON....
....YOU NEVER QUITE KNOW WHAT
THE BASTARDS ARE UP
TO UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE...
...'I WANT TO INVADE!' "

http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

Oh, and Like my
ANSWERED PRAYER,
FORGET First Aid
THUMP HIS CHEST!

CHEST COMPRESSION,
NOT mouth to mouth,
REVIVED The DEAD!
EVEN A DOG KNEW THIS!

The doctors have just been
catching up :) ;)


Hero dog saves heart attack victim

By Katherine Spackman

Posted Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:36am AEDT
Updated Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:17pm AEDT

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200910/r460238_2259384.jpg
Hailed as a hero: Teka tucks into her prize bone. (ABC)

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200910/r460239_2259397.jpg
Teka alongside her proud owner Jim Touzeau. (ABC)

* Map: Maryborough 4650
* Related Story: 9/11 rescue dog cloned
* Related Story: Hero dog's medal sold at auction
* Related Story: Dog crashes ute into cafe

A special cattle dog in Maryborough
in south-east Queensland
will receive the RSPCA's
animal achievement award.

Two years ago, Jim Touzeau suffered a heart attack
and collapsed at his Tinana glass factory.

His cattle dog Teka
jumped up and down
on his chest
with her two front paws
and barked in his face,
causing Mr Touzeau to wake up.

Teka also ran outside and jumped up and down on the kerb
to attract attention.

The RSPCA's Michael Beatty says he is amazed
at what the dog did to save Mr Touzeau's life.

"I'm sure, as Jim says, he doesn't know for certain
and neither [do] the doctors - whether or not Teka
jumping up and down on his chest
actually kick-started his chest,"
he said.

"But if he had not woken up,
he would have been dead.

"So that is one young cattle dog that's
receiving the best of attention,
as I'm sure you can imagine."

Mr Beatty says Teka will enjoy the award.

"A very large, very impressive bone
will come with the award,"
Mr Beatty said.

Tags: human-interest, animals,
awards-and-prizes, offbeat,
qld, maryborough-4650

vera susa
09-11-2009, 09:03 PM
AFP questions Vanstone
over alleged mafioso's visa

NICK MCKENZIE
AND RICHARD BAKER
November 10, 2009

Amanda Vanstone...
says she acted out of concern
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/09/846983/vansone-200x0.jpg
Amanda Vanstone...
says she acted out of concern

AUSTRALIAN Federal Police inquiring into
a mafia donations-for-visa scandal
have asked Australia's ambassador to Italy,
Amanda Vanstone,
to explain her decision to
give a visa to an alleged crime figure.

Three federal Liberal politicians, Bruce Billson,
Russell Broadbent and Marise Payne,
are also believed to
have been interviewed or contacted
by federal police as part of an investigation
into tens of thousands of dollars in donations
given to the Liberals by supporters
of the alleged Calabrian crime figure
Francesco Madafferi
when he was facing deportation.

Ms Vanstone was immigration minister
in the Howard government
when the donations were made
between 2003 and 2006.

During the same period
Madafferi's supporters
mounted a campaign -
which included enlisting the support of
Mr Billson, Mr Broadbent and Ms Payne -
to overturn the decision
by Ms Vanstone's predecessor,
Philip Ruddock,
to deport
the illegal immigrant
and suspected Mafia figure
to Italy.

In late 2005 Ms Vanstone overturned the deportation order on
what she later said were ''humanitarian grounds''.

Last year Madafferi was arrested for drug trafficking in connection
with the world's biggest ecstasy bust. He has also since been charged
with conspiracy to murder.

Ms Payne, Mr Billson and Mr Broadbent
had all raised Madafferi's deportation with Ms Vanstone
or the Immigration Department after being urged to do so
by Madafferi's supporters,
including some who where Liberal party donors.

In late 2004, as Madafferi faced impending deportation,
the three politicians, along with Ms Vanstone,
were special guests at a Liberal Party fundraiser
organised by Italian businessmen,
including many linked to the Madafferi family.

Among the biggest donors at this function was Madafferi's brother,
Antonio, who was named in the 1990s as a suspected hitman
in inquests into the murders of
two Italian-born Melbourne greengrocers.

Asked last week about her discussions with the federal police,
Ms Vanstone said: ''They did provide me with the opportunity to
make comment if I wished to do so. I have taken that opportunity.''

In February the Herald revealed
a secret federal police investigation in 2007
into allegations that a Liberal Party insider
was concerned that the campaign to
get Madafferi a visa
included political donations
from suspected Mafia-linked figures.

This investigation stalled after investigators failed to check donation records, but was reopened this year when the Herald uncovered a swag of donations that appeared to corroborate information gathered in the initial federal police inquiry.

Ms Vanstone has denied any link between the donations and her decision to revoke the deportation order. The three Liberal MPs who raised the case have previously said they did so out of concern over the effect of Madafferi's deportation on his family.

Ms Vanstone has insisted her decision was made out of concern for Madafferi's mental state and the effect on his wife and children.

The federal police
refused to comment
on its inquiry.


And you WILL FIND this EARLIER
Episode of "GOOD NEWS WEEK",
FITS!
http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

vera susa
09-11-2009, 10:37 PM
Seriously, there is MUCH
in these Espisodes of
"GOOD NEWS WEEK",
and excellent PRACTICE for
SEEING and HEARING what
IS REALLY BEING SAID...
like QI and Terry Pratchett;
PAY ATTENTION to what
MAKES YOU LAUGH,

"We could study Maps,
so people KNOW
WHERE THE BLOODY HELL
THEY ARE!"

and
HOW THESE COMEDIANS
(SPIES-
for these hint towards this fact
listen to Adam Spencer's School Days;))
CONNECT the SEEMINGLY unconnected :

http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

vera susa
09-11-2009, 11:03 PM
World News
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058330247&postcount=5

UN receives proceeds
from Lennon hit

Agence France-Presse

November 10, 2009 03:30am


JOHN Lennon's family has agreed to donate
all proceeds from downloads of the hit single
Give Peace a Chance to UN peace initiatives,
an official says.

"We've made an agreement with (Lennon's widow)
Yoko Ono and John Lennon's sons on November 3,''
Hector Munoz, Chilean ambassador to the UN and
chairperson of the organisation's
Peace Building Commission, said.

"We are happy to announce that
we'll be receiving the proceeds from
all i-Tunes downloads on the 40th anniversary
of the release of 'Give Peace a Chance',''
he added.

Mr Munoz is in the Ethiopian capital
to hold talks with the African Union
on post-conflict peace building efforts

Lennon enjoys iconic
status 29 years after
he was fatally shot
by a fan outside his
apartment in New York.

WORLD NEWS
BALLARAT IS
THE HOME of WAR
MARS
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058330247&postcount=5

"THEY" Say,
Peace, Peace, when
there is NO peace...

vera susa
09-11-2009, 11:17 PM
Bloody hell,
I've watched so little TV lately,
I missed this years "Good News Week"...

I didn't realise I was writing for them to...:D...;),

But SERIOUSLY, I know it's
Bloody Funny, but...

SHUT UP AND LISTEN...

to REPEATED "JOKES" about
things like;

LETTING REFUGEES IN...

GERMAN INVASION...

and

...EATING PANDAS...

AND a KEY Quote:
"This SCIENTITION"...

All the "news" about
Government NEEDING to APPROVE
SCIENTIFIC PAPERS BEFORE they're
ALLOWED TO BE PUBLISHED,
was a REMINDER;

SCIENCE is OWNED
by the RULING ELITE,
the MINISTRY of SCIENCE
was always a
DEAD GIVE AWAY!:cool::cool:;)

http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

vera susa
09-11-2009, 11:59 PM
And NOT surprisingly :D ;) ,
when you LISTEN, and HEAR it,
"BACKWARDS" from this last episode,
t the week Before, and the week Before that...

...actually, probably even better,
just Listening to it while you do the dishes
or potter about, so as NOT to BE DISTRACTED
by the "HUMOROUS DELIVERY"...

it "READS" in VERY CONTEMPORARY,
CLEAR CONTEXT:

http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

vera susa
10-11-2009, 12:24 AM
Bloody hell,
I've watched so little TV lately,
I missed this years "Good News Week"...

I didn't realise I was writing for them to...:D...;),

But SERIOUSLY, I know it's
Bloody Funny, but...

SHUT UP AND LISTEN...

to REPEATED "JOKES" about
things like;

LETTING REFUGEES IN...

GERMAN INVASION...

and

...EATING PANDAS...

AND a KEY Quote:
"This SCIENTITION"...

All the "news" about
Government NEEDING to APPROVE
SCIENTIFIC PAPERS BEFORE they're
ALLOWED TO BE PUBLISHED,
was a REMINDER;

SCIENCE is OWNED
by the RULING ELITE,
the MINISTRY of SCIENCE
was always a
DEAD GIVE AWAY!:cool::cool:;)

http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV




SHUT UP AND LISTEN...

...or you can watch 'forward' from
Episode 30...scroll down:


http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

to REPEATED "JOKES" about
things like;


'REJECTING' RED HEADS...

LETTING REFUGEES IN...
ACCORDING TO CHARACTER,
and DEPORTING ARSEHOLE NATIVES!


GERMAN=NORTHERN
INVASION...

...EATING PANDAS...



...and REMEMBER the REAL,
VERY LONG HISTORY
of MAN ON ALL THE EARTH
FROM
SUPER-CONTINENT= OLD TESTAMENT
"AGE"..


Joel - Chapter 1
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Joe&c=1&t=KJV&q=Joel#

Joel - Chapter 2
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Joe&c=2&v=1&t=KJV

vera susa
10-11-2009, 12:31 AM
Cashless society?
Nah, we're in the money

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7150913,00.jpg
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,28323,26323398-5017313,00.html

...hey, that's MURDOCH'S 'news' ;),
Headline & Image...

vera susa
10-11-2009, 12:57 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058399563#post1058399563


Vatican Attacks Royal Church of England & Queen
Quote:
The gesture goes alongside a welcome package for Anglicans
that will mean that converts will be able to worship
according to services from
the Church of England's Book of Common Prayer.

Services will be re-written
to remove references to the Queen
as head of the church
and to pledge loyalty to the Pope.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1226449/Pope-allows-married-men-priests-bid-attract-Anglican-recruits.html

:p :D ;)

vera susa
10-11-2009, 04:59 AM
:DOZ politicians deny man made climate change:D
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90520


Now they could be just telling each side what they want to hear, and pass the emissions trading laws anyway, but its making for some interesting dialogue between the so called two different partys in Australia, the right has even implied that the left is communist.



http://images.ninemsn.com.au/resizer.aspx?url=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/news_feeds/10_PennyWong_400x300.jpg&width=310
Penny Wong says the Liberal Party is full of sceptics who believe climate change is a conspiracy.

Story: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/929134/climate-sceptics-in-fantasy-land-wong
.

vera susa
10-11-2009, 05:17 AM
AFP questions Vanstone
over alleged mafioso's visa

NICK MCKENZIE
AND RICHARD BAKER
November 10, 2009

Amanda Vanstone...
says she acted out of concern
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/09/846983/vansone-200x0.jpg
Amanda Vanstone...
says she acted out of concern

AUSTRALIAN Federal Police inquiring into
a mafia donations-for-visa scandal
have asked Australia's ambassador to Italy,
Amanda Vanstone,
to explain her decision to
give a visa to an alleged crime figure.

Three federal Liberal politicians, Bruce Billson,
Russell Broadbent and Marise Payne,
are also believed to
have been interviewed or contacted
by federal police as part of an investigation
into tens of thousands of dollars in donations
given to the Liberals by supporters
of the alleged Calabrian crime figure
Francesco Madafferi
when he was facing deportation.

Ms Vanstone was immigration minister
in the Howard government
when the donations were made
between 2003 and 2006.

During the same period
Madafferi's supporters
mounted a campaign -
which included enlisting the support of
Mr Billson, Mr Broadbent and Ms Payne -
to overturn the decision
by Ms Vanstone's predecessor,
Philip Ruddock,
to deport
the illegal immigrant
and suspected Mafia figure
to Italy.

In late 2005 Ms Vanstone overturned the deportation order on
what she later said were ''humanitarian grounds''.

Last year Madafferi was arrested for drug trafficking in connection
with the world's biggest ecstasy bust. He has also since been charged
with conspiracy to murder.

Ms Payne, Mr Billson and Mr Broadbent
had all raised Madafferi's deportation with Ms Vanstone
or the Immigration Department after being urged to do so
by Madafferi's supporters,
including some who where Liberal party donors.

In late 2004, as Madafferi faced impending deportation,
the three politicians, along with Ms Vanstone,
were special guests at a Liberal Party fundraiser
organised by Italian businessmen,
including many linked to the Madafferi family.

Among the biggest donors at this function was Madafferi's brother,
Antonio, who was named in the 1990s as a suspected hitman
in inquests into the murders of
two Italian-born Melbourne greengrocers.

Asked last week about her discussions with the federal police,
Ms Vanstone said: ''They did provide me with the opportunity to
make comment if I wished to do so. I have taken that opportunity.''

In February the Herald revealed
a secret federal police investigation in 2007
into allegations that a Liberal Party insider
was concerned that the campaign to
get Madafferi a visa
included political donations
from suspected Mafia-linked figures.

This investigation stalled after investigators failed to check donation records, but was reopened this year when the Herald uncovered a swag of donations that appeared to corroborate information gathered in the initial federal police inquiry.

Ms Vanstone has denied any link between the donations and her decision to revoke the deportation order. The three Liberal MPs who raised the case have previously said they did so out of concern over the effect of Madafferi's deportation on his family.

Ms Vanstone has insisted her decision was made out of concern for Madafferi's mental state and the effect on his wife and children.

The federal police
refused to comment
on its inquiry.


And you WILL FIND this EARLIER
Episode of "GOOD NEWS WEEK",
FITS!
http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?vxSiteId=cb519624-44a2-4bf7-808b-3514d34e96e4&vxChannel=GNW%20CUTV

Police investigate
people-smuggling link
to Lin murder

GEESCHE JACOBSEN
CRIME EDITOR
November 10, 2009

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Murdered family lain to rest
Hundreds of mourners gathered at
Sydney's Olympic Park
for the funeral of a family
murdered in North Epping last month.


POLICE are investigating if the gruesome murder
of the Lin family in March was a case of
mistaken identity relating to a convicted people smuggler
called ''David'' Min Lin.

David Min Lin, a computer student from Ryde
who was born in the Chinese city of Fuqing,
was involved in a failed attempt 10 years ago
to smuggle 69 Chinese immigrants by boat to Australia.

After being arrested he pleaded guilty and offered to
give police information about the scheme
believed to have been organised by
a criminal gang in Hong Kong.

He was jailed and placed in immigration detention
after he served his jail term,
but appealed against deportation orders
because he had a wife and son,
who was an Australian citizen.

While official records seem to support
that David Min Lin,
a Chinese citizen, was deported,
no record could last night be found
of the outcome of his appeal.

In July this year the Epping newsagent Min Lin, 46,
his wife Yun Li ''Lillie'' Lin, 44,
her sister Yun Bin ''Irene'' Lin, 39,
and the couple's sons Henry, 12, and Terry, 9,
were murdered in their Boundary Street home.

Police are not ruling out that the family were killed in error
by someone meaning to target David Min Lin in a revenge killing.
It is one of a number of theories police are investigating.

The brutal nature of the Lin family murder,
and the killing of the children, would be consistent with
it being the work of a triad.

Authorities believe David Min Lin, who turned 39 this year,
helped plan the people-smuggling operation organised by
a Lidcombe chicken filleter, Xin Chen.

When the 69 economic refugees
were found in the boat's secret compartment
off Port Kembla in May 1999,
the 85-metre freighter Ka Yuen was
the largest people-smuggling boat ever intercepted
by Australian authorities, and it had ventured
further south than any other boat before it.

The men had planned to transfer the illegal immigrants
to an eight-metre, oceangoing powerboat called Gruesome
and land them at Dolans Bay, where they were to be transferred
into mini-buses. But the Gruesome had engine trouble and
the attempt to bring them ashore failed.

David Min Lin, who had rented the minibuses and a house
and organised the boat's repair, stood to be paid $3000 for his role.

Mr Chen claimed he had disabled the Gruesome's motor
and was involved in a ''conspiracy within a conspiracy''
seeking to defraud the Hong Kong syndicate
and never intended to bring the immigrants to Australia.

But he was found guilty
of people smuggling
and sentenced to a minimum
of 12 months in prison
after which
he was granted parole.

The people smugglers had charged
the would-be immigrants $20,000 each
and promised them jobs at the Sydney 2000 Olympics.
The immigrants were deported to Hong Kong.

vera susa
10-11-2009, 06:28 AM
Q & A Series 2 Episode 32

"BOAT PEOPLE" and so much more:

http://www.internationalbenchmarking.org/iview/#/view/461526

vera susa
10-11-2009, 11:11 AM
Tough love breeds smart kids

By Emma Alberici for The World Today

The World Today | abc.net.au/worldtoday

Posted 4 hours 44 minutes ago
Updated 4 hours 9 minutes ago

Building relationships:
the tough love style of parenting
combines warmth and discipline.
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Building relationships:
the tough love style of parenting
combines warmth and discipline.
(stock.xchng: Asif Akbar)

* Audio: Tough love the top tip to tame toddlers (The World Today)
* Audio: Listen to an extended interview with Sonia Sodha (The World Today)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/10/2738773.htm

A new study in the United Kingdom has found that children whose parents take a "tough love" approach are better prepared to achieve in life.

The research by think tank Demos tracked the lives of 9,000 families over eight years.

The head of the research team, Sonia Sodha, says the tough love style of parenting combines warmth and discipline, and is far more important in a child's success than parents' income or social background.

"Parents are able to set rules, apply them consistently and fairly and that means that children know what the boundaries are to their behaviour," she said.

Ms Sodha says tough love parenting helps children to develop key skills such as emotion control and empathy.

"They are skills that we've termed character capabilities, and what I mean when I say that is skills like self-regulation, so being able to regulate your own emotions in difficult circumstances," she said.

"Skills like empathy, say being able to understand how other people are feeling - which is a really key skill for being able to develop good relationships with others - and skills like applications, so children being able to concentrate on the task, to be able to motivate themselves.

"This set of character capabilities are the skills that are really important in enabling children to make the most of school when they get there."

Wealthy parents

Ms Sodha said the research showed wealthier parents were likely to use the tough love parenting style.

"Parents from poor backgrounds, wealthy backgrounds, average backgrounds, they are just as likely to show warmth and affection to their children," she said.

"Where we notice the difference however was in terms of discipline, so in the ability of parents to set rules and apply them consistently. And what we found was that was a more common trait amongst parents from wealthier backgrounds."

Ms Sodha says several factors contribute to the trend.

"The first I think is the changing nature of society," she said.

"We all know we are becoming increasingly consumerist ... and if you look at the amount of direct advertising that is directed at children, that has gone up a lot in previous years.

"And what this advertising tends to do is target children to get them to pester their parents for particular goods and items, and that makes it very difficult for some parents to say no."

Family structure

Ms Sodha says a second factor is the combination of income and family structures.

"They probably all do impact on parenting style, so we know that if you are a parent who is parenting alone or if you are a poor parent, you are under a lot more stress than a wealthier parent or someone who is parenting as part of a supportive couple, so that also is important I think," she said.

Ms Sodha also says the study does not aim to tell parents exactly what they should do in every situation.

"That won't work and
government doesn't know best," she said.

"What we think the implications are is that
government should be ensuring
that early years services ... need to be geared
to helping parents develop the skills they need
in order to be able to give their kids
the best start in life possible."

Tags: community-and-society, family-and-children, education, research, parenting, research-organisations, united-kingdom

vera susa
10-11-2009, 01:19 PM
So even how we mine is being tidied up,
NOW...

CSIRO
Media Release

CSIRO helps redefine
large open pit design

10 November 2009
Reference: 09/175

The front cover of
Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design.
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The front cover of
Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design.


New guidelines for open pit slope design
have been released for the first time
in more than 30 years.


The 496-page Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design
aims to address many of the uncertainties surrounding
the development of large open pit mines.

Open pit mining is an efficient way to mine many deposits,
but there are complications.

Make the slope of the pit too shallow and you have to
move millions of additional tonnes of valueless overburden.
But if it’s too steep, you risk failure with subsequent risk
to people and property.

Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design aims to address many of the uncertainties surrounding the development of large open pit mines.

Up until now, the only handbook of this type available
to open pit mine slope design practitioners including
engineering geologists, geotechnical engineers,
mining engineers, civil engineers and mine managers
has been the CANMET manual last published in 1977.

The new Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design
was officially released at the Slope Stability conference
in Santiago, Chile, on November 9.

It is a direct outcome of the
CSIRO Minerals Down Under
National Research Flagship’s
Large Open Pit research project
and is comprised of 14 chapters
that follow the life of mine sequence
from project development to closure.

CSIRO’s Dr John Read is one of two editors
and has also authored a number of chapters in the book.

Dr Read has over 40 years experience as a practitioner
and consultant in the mining industry, with special interests
and expertise in rock slope stability and open pit mine design
and investigation tasks in Australia, Fiji, Papua New Guinea,
Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Canada, South Africa and Zambia.

He says that each chapter is written by an industry practitioner
with specific experience in the topic being described.

"The purpose of the book is to be
a new generation guideline
that links innovative mining
geomechanics research
with best practice" Dr Read said.

"The book outlines for today’s practitioners what works best
in different situations and why, what doesn’t work and why not,
and what is the best approach to satisfy best practice in a range
of situations."

The publication is the result of
four years of effort and support
from a group of 12 mining companies
representing the majority of
the world’s production of
diamonds and base metals.


Guidelines For Open Pit Slope Design
is available from CSIRO publishing for A$195.

CSIRO initiated the National Research Flagships
to provide science-based solutions in response
to Australia’s major research challenges and opportunities.
The ten Flagships form multidisciplinary teams
with industry and the research community
to deliver impact and benefits for Australia.

vera susa
10-11-2009, 01:31 PM
And today's Wiki,
In The News:

Finland and Sweden approve construction of
the controversial Nord Stream –
a natural gas pipeline from Vyborg, Russia,
to Greifswald, Germany –
in their exclusive economic zones...

...and if I was a European, I would NOT
be relying on this pipeline supplying....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Baltic_sea_map_with_pipeline.jpg

Nord Stream - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

vera susa
11-11-2009, 12:43 AM
O.K., MONEY, you use it to pay for
the resources to live by...like GAS,
IRON ORE, WATER, FOOD, ;)...
...but as a Nation Australia already
HAS ALL THAT! EVERYTHING NEEDED
to be SELF RELIANT!

"What about LABOUR!" you cry?
What The VATICAN being involved
in SMUGGLING PEOPLE IN...and
DEPORTING those they don't want,
isn't a BIG ENOUGH HINT?... that
labour will never be a problem here
beyond a FAKE shortage 'they' INVENT
to 'Push another few barrows by'.

Now the ORIGINAL, 'News Behind The News'
Thread I had on The Unhived Mind site was;

"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO..."

and as we KNOW, Throughout ALL of man's History,
LOCATIONS of GLOBAL POWER CENTRES HAVE MOVED.

So what do think it MEANS WHEN 'They' ARE
MOVING 'THEIR" MONEY "HOME" TO....and
TAKING IT FROM those in an UNstable, WAR TORN
EUROPE still SEETHING with ENMITY for their
neighbours across constantly shifting borders...

...the neighbours they have to PAY for things like,
GAS to prevent them FREEZING TO DEATH, or SKILLED
Labour to MAINTAIN "SAFE" NUCLEAR POWER Plants...

~~~~~~~~~


Be afraid,
Aussie tax dodgers
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7159653,00.jpg
Be afraid,
Aussie tax dodgers

THE tax office is
hunting down
secret Swiss bank details
as it targets overseas
tax havens.


Australian Tax Office
seeking details of
secret UBS bank accounts

By Business Editor
Edmund Tadros

news.com.au

November 11, 2009 07:23am


* ATO seeking account details from UBS
* UBS has already handed over details to the US
* More difficult to hide money overseas: expert

Video:
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,26330852-462,00.html

THE tax office is using a landmark US case
to crack open details of secret Swiss bank accounts
held by wealthy Australians as it continues to
target off-shore havens.

The Australian Tax Office has requested account-holder details
from Zurich-based UBS, after the Swiss bank
handed over about 4450 client names to US authorities
in August to settle a tax case.

The revelation that UBS may hand over more client information will send clients rushing to their lawyers, said David Drummond, a tax expert from professional services firm KPMG.

He estimated that there could be at least hundreds of millions
in hidden funds in the Swiss bank.

A spokesman for Assistant Treasurer Nick Sherry would not comment
on the request but said the Government continued to take a
"zero tolerance approach" to Australians hiding money
in off-shore havens.


Days of hiding money off-shore
"long gone"


The UBS move to hand over account details is one of a number
of developments that have dealt blows to the tradition of
strict Swiss bank secrecy laws .
This tradition has seen it become the world's world's (MURDOCH'S
DOUBLE UP of "WORLD'S" ;))
largest offshore tax haven.

"This (move by the ATO) would be a real source of concern to anyone
who has taken the view that they can hide money off-shore," Mr Drummond said.

"This is highlighting to those wealthy individuals that
the days of being able to conceal money off-shore are over."

He said that there was increasing cooperation between financial institutions in countries previously considered tax havens and tax authorities around the world.

"There's been a shift in the psyche of the world in terms of
concealing wealth off-shore," he said.

He said that "hundreds of millions" could be held in the accounts,
based on extrapolating out the tax liabilities identified by the ATO
in its off-shore programs.

The ATO's two key programs targeting overseas tax havens,
Project Wickenby and the Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Initiative,
have already managed to identify almost $500 million in tax liabilities,
according to the Federal Government.

Many countries seeking account information

UBS said in a note to its third-quarter financial statement,
published last week, that tax and regulatory authorities in
a number of jurisdictions had requested information on
cross-border wealth management services
provided by UBS and other banks.

The ATO confirmed that
investigations were underway,
Swiss newspaper Sonntag
reported on Sunday,
but said it declined to
give further details.

UBS only said in its statement that the ATO had requested information
on offshore services from UBS and other Swiss and non-Swiss financial
institutions.

US clients confess tax sins

UBS caused a frenzy when it
handed over its client information
to the US tax department,
the Internal Revenue Service.

Clients had to decide if they should
take advantage of an amnesty offered
by IRS and reveal their offshore accounts
or risk prosecution.

In the end, more than 3000 people
made voluntary disclosures to the IRS.

The US investigation into how UBS helped rich Americans hide money
in Switzerland has hurt the bank's reputation and prompted offshore
customers to withdraw assets, with the bank reporting last week that
third-quarter net outflows totaled US$36 billion.

The Sonntag newspaper said that
the Swiss tax authorities would
on November 17
reveal the precise criteria
determining which UBS client data
is handed over to the US authorities.

- With Reuters

~~~~~~~~~

Now The Conspiracy INDUSTRY simply loves
to drag seekers of understanding and truth,
through MOUNTAINS of DEVILISH "Details"
about things WE HAVE NO POWER TO CHANGE
(making us 'feel' ANGRY and DOOMED and so
easier to 'STAMPEDE' Where 'They' WILL) ,
also BECAUSE while staring closely at "detail"
you can NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE.

Oh yes, I to post LOTS of details and links to
further self study, but as a way of 'Framing'
THE BIG PICTURE for people to SEE WHERE
The Story The Picture Tells, BEGINS and ENDS.

And it BEGAN LONG BEFORE there was a "ROME"
COMMISSIONING "ARTS" to PAINT OVER
The ORIGINAL Picture of, The Story of MAN & GOD.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 01:06 AM
Funny to, because I PUT OFF posting this 'news':

Goldman Sachs boss says banks do "God's work",
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90639

(which like MOST NEWS
WE GET AHEAD of The NORTH,
EVEN WHEN IT'S HAPPENING
IN The NORTH! ;))

BECAUSE I didn't want to
'contaminate' the REAL WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
of such 'news' with a whole bunch of
AGENTS FOR ROME jumping in to "Bash God's Faithful",
and sure enough, I was right to WAIT FOR THE NEWS
OF SECRET SWISS BANK Accounts, BETRAYING 'their'
Clients, to BETTER UNDERSCORE THE GOOD NEWS...

As I've often mentioned, NOT all the 'Ruling Elite' are,
'bad guys', but working in a BAD SYSTEM, it's often hard
to tell when They ARE making HARD but JUST decisions,
but even the VERY BAD amongst them STILL, RULE BY
UNDERSTANDING GOD'S WORD IS TRUE...and in trying
to 'second guess' HIS WARNINGS, play right into the
NEXT PROMISE to BE FULFILLED.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 01:51 AM
So anyway, while The Conspiracy INDUSTRY
runs around "warning against" The VATICAN,
ROYALS, MASONS and ALL of The Inner Circles,
it also DEMANDS that 'truth seekers' REJECT
The TRUTH of GOD'S WORD...:confused: WHY,
when "They" KNOW it has been 'Their' UPPER HAND,
to SELL US THE EGYPT BS, while 'They' REALLY DO,
STUDY HIS WORD, KNOWING to read 'Egypt' AS
MITSRAYIM, THE LAND GOD DESCRIBED TO BE
AMERICA!

http://us1.harunyahya.com/Image/makaleler/mason.jpg
King James Version of
Masonic Bible on the Altar.
Masons prefer KJV because
King James I was
Scottish Templar Mason.

THE KING JAMES BIBLE,
IS THE MASONIC BIBLE OF CHOICE.
http://www.catholicapologetics.net/images/0000cROSS.gif

http://www.catholicapologetics.net/images/MMb.jpg

http://www.catholicapologetics.net/images/Masonic_Bible_2.jpg

http://www.catholicapologetics.net/images/masonic_bible3.jpg

http://www.catholicapologetics.net/Freemasonry_KJV.htm

But now when reading that page, REMEMBER:

"ALL BUT The Very Elect SHALL BE DECEIVED."

HOW, when so many do study 'the bible'?

Because ALL BUT The Very Elect have BOUGHT
The LIE that MITSRAYIM is 'Egypt'
and so, have
ALSO BOUGHT The HOODWINKING,
WAY TOO SHORT, 'Time-Line'
and FALSE Locations that
ARE DELIBERATELY TIED TO IT!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 02:08 AM
And now a further point made in
Today's News...

A lovely recession for
comfortable old folks

This article contains a video that will play automatically.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/oh-what-a-lovely-recession-x2026-for-comfortable-old-folks-20091110-i7i6.html?autostart=1

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/03/03/403725/90ross-gittins-90x60.jpgROSS GITTINS

Politicians run the economy
for the benefit of the old,
not the young.

The less interest young people
take in politics,
the more they're likely
to be screwed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And WHO ARE THE LEST STUDIED
in HOLY SCRIPTURE?

Well those YOUNG PEOPLE who have had
GENERATIONS of "Them" LYING and PUSHING
the young AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD, to 'ways'
such as INSANE HINDU 'science' and ANY OLD
LONG AGO PROVEN TO HAVE FAILED 'ways', of
LONG AGO DESTROYED NATIONS and 'cultures'!

And what do all those "RULING ELITE" ROYALS
and MASONIC POLITICIANS STUDY...

http://www.catholicapologetics.net/images/MMb.jpg

http://us1.harunyahya.com/Image/makaleler/mason.jpg
"SCREWED"...
AND Run Through and "SKEWERED"!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 02:47 AM
And yet More of "Them"
AGENTS of THE LIE,
CONDEMNING HUMAN LIFE...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90565


Do you get mad at lions for eating zebras?

Do you get mad at polar bears eating seals?

Do you get mad at frogs for eating insects?

This kid did nothing wrong.

NO!

I DON'T, but then UNLIKE
GREENIES and ANIMAL "LIBERS",
WHO CAUSE MORE ANIMAL DEATHS
than they 'save'... AS DELIBERATELY
DESIGNED BY the TAVISTOCK AGENDA,
I LOVE Animals FOR WHAT THEY ARE.

YES!

The Kid Did NOTHING WRONG....

UNLIKE those NWO AGENDA PUSHERS
who CONDEMNED a CHILD,
WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING to Read
the story that got them on
"Their" HIGH HORSE!

Frozen with fear:
stranded teen v polar bears
ARJUN RAMACHANDRAN
November 11, 2009 - 10:32AM

Shot a polar bear dead ...
Jupi Nakoolak
is seen trapped on a floating chunk of ice.
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Shot a polar bear dead ...
Jupi Nakoolak
is seen trapped on a floating chunk of ice.
Photo: AP

When it comes to scary, life-threatening situations,
being 17 and stranded in minus-15 degree temperatures
on a sheet of Arctic ice that has snapped off and
is drifting out to sea in the dark is one thing.

Knowing there are three hungry polar bears stalking you
on the same 30-metre wide ice floe is another.

But, battling hypothermia and frostbite,
Inuit teenager Jupi Nakoolak
survived his four-day ordeal ...
only by shooting the adult bear.

"It would have been a defensive kill.
I don't know what would have been scarier --
drifting in the dark with no gear or coming across a bear,"
said Ed Zebedee, director of the Government of
Nunavut's protection services branch.

Jupi - also named in local media as
Jupi Angootealuk -
had been on a polar bear hunting trip
with his 67-year-old uncle, Jimmy Nakoolak,
since last Friday.

They had left their snowmobile and stepped onto the sea ice
when it cracked and floated off,
Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper reported.

The ice cracked again the next day,
splitting the uncle and his nephew.

They were reported missing on Saturday,
prompting a search operation.

Rescuers found the uncle on Sunday morning close to shore,
said Mr Zebedee.

"He was all soaked and wet and started crawling at least two miles
on his knees because he was so tired and it was hard for his legs,"
Jerry Panniuq, the local mayor who spoke to Mr Nakoolak in hospital,
told the Globe and Mail.

By Sunday, the sheet of ice Jupi was on
had drifted four kilometres from the shore
when he spotted three polar bears,
an adult and two older cubs.

"Polar bears are the only animal that will
definitely stalk a human and eat them.
Nobody goes out on the land here without a gun,"
Mr Zebedee told the National Post.

Jupi had a gun and, in self-defence,
authorities say he was forced to shoot the adult bear.

On Sunday, pilot Phil Amos
spotted the teen on the ice patch
and circled him for about 40 minutes,
but Jupi did not wave at all,
perhaps fearing it might provoke the two cubs.

"I don't think he really wanted to move
because the bears were so close," Mr Amos told local media.

"I kind of flew down to see if I could get the bears to move away,
but they were very adamant about sticking around their mum."

While the air crews were able to drop Jupi
some chocolate and an emergency kit containing torches,
darkness set in before they could rescue him
and the teen was consigned to another freezing night on the ice sheet.

The need to suspend the search because of darkness
has now prompted calls for infrared sensors
to be installed aboard Canadian search aircraft.

At daybreak on Monday,
an aerial search team spotted Jupi again
and parachuted down to rescue him.
Authorities were amazed at his condition.

"Even after spending hours alone, huddling in temperatures
that dipped below -15C, the teen appeared to be in decent shape.
He was conscious, slightly hypothermic and appeared to have some
frostbite," Canadian rescue official Jean-Pierre Sharp told the Toronota Star.

Rob Hedley, senior administrative officer at Coral Harbour,
told Canadian TV: "It's quite incredible that he's in such good shape ….
As much as the polar bear is a bit of a dramatic aspect of it,
he had his weapon with him, thank goodness.

"But also it's basically surviving three days out on the land
with little food or water.
I was expecting this not to end
as happily as it did."

There was a similar happy ending in the the same region
about a year ago, when Australian Oliver Edwards-Neil
survived 18 hours floating on a sheet of ice
after his plane crashed.

The 25-year-old survived without food or water
in -20 degree temperatures, and was aware of
the threat of attack by polar bears but, unlike Jupi,
did not confront any.

"We saw a couple of seals in the morning ...
apparently there are polar bears but thank God
we didn't see them," Mr Edwards-Neil said last year.

Mr Edwards-Neil, and his flying partner who was stranded with him,
ended up hopping from one ice-sheet to another in a bid to
reach land before they were rescued by a fishing vessel.

Jupi's amazing survival was
described as "bittersweet"
by Joan Griffin,
general manager of the aviation company
that first spotted Jupi, as two cubs had been left orphaned
while a young man had been found alive.

"That's the glory of the Arctic," she told the Globe and Mail.
"A 17-year-old young man and he's seasoned enough
that he was able to save his own life - so very resilient.

"It is amazing."....
~ ~ ~
....that ARSEHOLES would even TRY
to CONDEMN THIS BOY!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 03:16 AM
And yet another sign of "Them"
COMING "HOME" to Shore Up
'The Safe House'...

CSIRO
Media Release
4 November 2009

New Chief for CSIRO
Food and Nutritional Sciences
Reference: 09/202

The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
http://www.csiro.au/files/images/ptgs.jpg
The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
Photo: CSIRO

Internationally recognised
food scientist and science leader,
Professor Martin Cole,
will start as the Chief of CSIRO’s
Division of Food and Nutritional Sciences
(FNS) in January 2010.


Professor Cole is currently
Director of the National Centre for
Food Safety and Technology (NCFST)
in the United States and
Research Professor of Biology
at Illinois Institute of Technology.

Born in the United Kingdom,
Professor Cole graduated with
a Bachelor of Science from the
Manchester Metropolitan University
and completed a PhD at the
University of East Anglia in 1988.

His career has included research and
management appointments with
food companies
Unilever and Nabisco.

From 1999 to 2004 Professor Cole was based at
Food Science Australia (FSA) –
a joint venture between CSIRO and the
Victorian Government
and the predecessor to FNS.

His time at FSA included 15 months as acting CEO.

With many years of experience
in food policy
and the development
of international
food safety standards,
Professor Cole has frequently been called upon
as an expert by organisations such the
World Health Organization (WHO),
the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
well as the US House of Representatives.
“A strong research effort is important to ensuring we can sustainably produce enough food, food that is healthier and safer. It is an exciting challenge.”
Professor Cole

He has received numerous awards including
election as a fellow of the
International Academy of
Food Science & Technology
and he currently chairs the
International Commission on the
Microbiological Specifications for Food.

“I’m looking forward
to the opportunity
to return to Australia and CSIRO,”
Professor Cole said.
“Australia, and hence CSIRO,
have a huge role to play
in global food production.
A strong research effort is important
ensuring we can sustainably produce
enough food, food that is
healthier and safer.
It is an exciting challenge.”

Professor Cole takes over from interim Chief and
FSA CEO Professor Alan Bell,
who has overseen the move from
Food Science Australia to
CSIRO Food and Nutritional Sciences.
Professor Bell will return as
Chief of CSIRO Livestock Industries.

CSIRO established FNS in July
in a new research collaboration with
the Victorian Government
to continue the research capability
and portfolio operated by FSA.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 04:53 AM
Now don't go DONNING
The JACK BOOTS,
just because they FIT.

These News Articles are FOR
The GENUINE SEEKERS of
TRUTH and UNDERSTANDING,
NOT The Dyed In Wool AGENTS
of "Them" :p .... ;)


It's NOT RIGHT
to DEMONISE
mental illness

CATHERINE JONES
November 11, 2009 - 11:06AM

I take strong issue with the reporting of the horrific and terribly sad Waterlow slayings in Randwick.

I believe leading with a reference to Anthony Waterlow's alleged mental illness, something which to this point is only hearsay, is both irresponsible and demonstrates a sensationalism that would be better suited to a tabloid.

It has been demonstrated, time and time again, in studies, that statistically, people living with a mental illness are no more violent that the rest of the community.

Yet still, in a situation like this, where there is no certainty if the suspect has been diagnosed with schizophrenia or was even ill at the time, the Sydney Morning Herald's journalists chose to jump on this as a lead, thus further stigmatising and demonising people with schizophrenia and exacerbating the terrible discrimination they face in society every day.

Thankfully, I do not have schizophrenia.

I do have though, another mental illness, which, like schizophrenia, is treatable and episodic and controllable and is similarly demonised in the media all the time.

As a former journalist who lost one highly successful career due to bigotry and ignorance when a boss simply learned I had this diagnosis, reading something like this story incenses me.

It is stories like this that create this type of bigotry and ignorance in the first place.

Anthony Waterlow, according to friends, resented his father and sister and blamed them for his failures and problems. He also allegedly used drugs heavily and felt entitled to a unit next door to his father's in Woollahra.

In my opinion, this would have made a much more interesting, appropriate and logical lead to the article and would have grabbed the reader's attention just as effectively as some vague possibility that he may have been diagnosed with schizophrenia.

It was completely unnecessary to lead on Waterlow's alleged mental health issues when it has not even been proved if he has any or if they played any role in these killings whatsoever.

The only purpose this serves is to stoke community fear and perpetuate the erroneous clichés and myths “out there” about people living with a mental illness.

People with these sorts of “labels” have a heavy enough burden without contributing to the belief that they are all somehow potential knife-wielding, psychotic killers, about to knock off their fathers and sisters and stab small children.

Like SANE president Barbara Hocking said in her article in the National Times only last week, a large number of people living with a mental illness are indistinguishable from everyone else: we have families, friends and successful social and working lives and most people would never even know we are anything other than “normal”. Please, Herald staff, you can do better. The SMH sends mixed and confusing messages when it publishes an article like Barbara Hocking's one week and follows it up the next with one that typifies the sort of ignorance Ms Hocking was attacking in her opinion piece.

I believe the SMH has a duty to try to educate people about the truth of living with mental illness; not perpetuate the myths surrounding it.

* The author's real name has been changed for personal reasons

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And this MAKES ME ANGRY :mad: !!!!!

"THE" 'man' BEHIND MAKING
THE ALREADY SUFFERING,
HOMELESS,
DR. STEEL HORTON,
of BALLARAT'S LAKESIDE Hospital
(FEATURED in ERIC BANA'S,
ROMULUS MY FATHER, and NOW,
"PRIME REAL ESTATE by The Lake"
after it's CLOSER!),
kicked off this idea of
KICKING THE ILL OUT ON THEIR OWN!

He also used to DEAL DRUGS to
His VICTIMS to sell on the streets.

I know this as I WITNESSED IT and MORE
when HE WAS MY HUSBAND'S SHRINK!

He also kicked off a run of ATTEMPTS
ON MY LIFE, by DECLARING him an
INCURABLE SOCIOPATH
set on destroying me, IN FRONT OF ME!



National Breaking News

Scheme to support mentally ill
a failure, says Ombudsman

AAP

November 11, 2009 11:55am

A GOVERNMENT service aimed at
preventing people with a mental illness
from becoming homeless has failed,
the New South Wales Ombudsman says.

The Joint Guarantee of Service for
People with Mental Health Problems (JGOS)
was set up in 1997
(also about the time I KNOCKED BACK
the offer of a job in Mental Health
with a $26. MILLION a year budget to
" USE HOWEVER I WANTED",
SO LONG AS I ALSO COVERED UP any reports
of The CHURCHES CHILD VICTIMS!)
so that NSW Health and Housing NSW
could work together to address housing and support needs
of people with mental health problems and disorders.

In 2003 other organisations including the
NSW Aboriginal Housing Office also got involved.

A NSW Ombudsman's investigation has found
the scheme has not worked because of
poor communication between organisations.

"People with a mental illness
are particularly vulnerable
after being discharged from hospital,"
Ombudsman Bruce Barbour said in a statement.

"Poor communication and planning
can result in individuals becoming homeless
when they are entitled to support."

The Ombudsman said a key reason JGOS had failed
was because there had been confusion
over when client information could be shared,
which in turn had
placed the well-being of individuals at risk.

Related Coverage

* 1000 new mental health homes needed
Adelaide Now, 11 Nov 2009
* Incidents of neglect not isolated
The Australian, 23 Oct 2009
* Public service 'ethics, integrity not optional'
NEWS.com.au, 22 Oct 2009
* Authorities failed starved girl - watchdog
NEWS.com.au, 6 Oct 2009
* Child put in care of sex offender
The Australian, 17 Sep 2009
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26335226-29277,00.html


"There needs to be
a simple and practical system in place
that enables agencies to exchange information
about vulnerable people when necessary
for their safety or welfare," he said.

While a recent injection of
State and Federal Government funding
had seen an increase in the amount of social housing,
Mr Barbour said there was
still a shortage
of supported accommodation
for people with a mental illness
who needed extra help to enable them
to live independently.


~~~~~~~~

But kicking the ill out on the streets,
to become such a huge problem was
only a part of the plot...'they' then
spent years convincing everyone with
REAL REASONS to BE DEPRESSED,
like being STARVED of JUSTICE and
The SPIRITUAL FOOD & WATER to
SUSTAIN them, to "GET MEDICATED",
BY WHICH they ALSO
"GOT ON THE MENTALLY ILL LIST"!

Now watch for all the CONTROLS...
umm, sorry, "help" :rolleyes: :mad:,
that starts to come their way...WANT IT,
OR NOT!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 05:54 AM
And yet another sign of "Them"
COMING "HOME" to Shore Up
'The Safe House'...

CSIRO
Media Release
4 November 2009

New Chief for CSIRO
Food and Nutritional Sciences
Reference: 09/202

The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
http://www.csiro.au/files/images/ptgs.jpg
The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
Photo: CSIRO

Internationally recognised
food scientist and science leader,
Professor Martin Cole,
will start as the Chief of CSIRO’s
Division of Food and Nutritional Sciences
(FNS) in January 2010.


Professor Cole is currently
Director of the National Centre for
Food Safety and Technology (NCFST)
in the United States and
Research Professor of Biology
at Illinois Institute of Technology.

Born in the United Kingdom,
Professor Cole graduated with
a Bachelor of Science from the
Manchester Metropolitan University
and completed a PhD at the
University of East Anglia in 1988.

His career has included research and
management appointments with
food companies
Unilever and Nabisco.

From 1999 to 2004 Professor Cole was based at
Food Science Australia (FSA) –
a joint venture between CSIRO and the
Victorian Government
and the predecessor to FNS.

His time at FSA included 15 months as acting CEO.

With many years of experience
in food policy
and the development
of international
food safety standards,
Professor Cole has frequently been called upon
as an expert by organisations such the
World Health Organization (WHO),
the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
well as the US House of Representatives.
“A strong research effort is important to ensuring we can sustainably produce enough food, food that is healthier and safer. It is an exciting challenge.”
Professor Cole

He has received numerous awards including
election as a fellow of the
International Academy of
Food Science & Technology
and he currently chairs the
International Commission on the
Microbiological Specifications for Food.

“I’m looking forward
to the opportunity
to return to Australia and CSIRO,”
Professor Cole said.
“Australia, and hence CSIRO,
have a huge role to play
in global food production.
A strong research effort is important
ensuring we can sustainably produce
enough food, food that is
healthier and safer.
It is an exciting challenge.”

Professor Cole takes over from interim Chief and
FSA CEO Professor Alan Bell,
who has overseen the move from
Food Science Australia to
CSIRO Food and Nutritional Sciences.
Professor Bell will return as
Chief of CSIRO Livestock Industries.

CSIRO established FNS in July
in a new research collaboration with
the Victorian Government
to continue the research capability
and portfolio operated by FSA.

Now more discussion of REAL EVENTS
that I HAVE WARNED OF ALL ALONG...

...but I won't ask those who don't recall
those many posts of mine, to go back and
SEE FOR THEMSELVES, as like so many
KEY Points I made, they are probably,
"WINSTONED AWAY" TO ;)

Yeah im thinking they are cranking the ionosphere modifiers up this week, as we have 40 degree C weather (over 100 F) in some parts, and torrential flooding that has been labelled a 'natural disaster' not too far away.

Again the large irrigated food producing regions are bearing the brunt of it with a stationary high pressure system sitting smack bang on the heart of the Murray Darling Basin, cooking eastern south australia, victoria and southern NSW, while not so far away in northern NSW vehicles and roads are being washed away in floods.

Way to sell it, carbon tax peeps, is that all you got, bring it bitches, turn it up some more...a few hot days strung together a man made climate change it does not maketh...

HAARP SWITCH
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/5/4923343_47665f7c6b.jpg

nah they are too afraid that everyone will leave Adelaide if it persists lol.

You cant get many people to build Lockheed parts in your factories all summer if its always 40 degrees.

I feel for those who have lost crops though, looks like much of the stonefruit in Riverland and Sunraysia is damaged and unpresentable now, all this just after the South Australian Farmers Federation announce they have had a gutful of Coles and Woolworths and want to start up their own supermarket chain, because we have the highest food prices in the developed world while farmers get sqaut.

Them coles and woolies
do have some connections,
being majority owned by US UK and Vatican
held sharholders, leading back to the usual suspects, who are the same stakeholders of the crown, and have their hands on the aforepictured knob.
.

YES....

http://www.fambiz.org.au/images/familyfaithfooty.jpg
Family, Faith and Footy -
Edited by Des Tobin

FRANK COSTA -
Family, Faith and Footy

This is the story of a
remarkable Australian
and will be enjoyed by
those who are
interested in Australian
football,
business,
family life,
and what makes successful people.

Frank Costa OAM
(born 1938 in Geelong)
is an entrepreneur,
1997 Order of Australia Medal recipient,
and philanthropist.

The Geelong native has been
a prominent figure in the region
for more than four decades,
after inheriting the family's
produce business
in the late 1950s.

Costa was the eldest of five sons
born to Sicilian immigrants
that moved to Australia in the 1880s.

His great-uncle established the
Geelong Covent Garden in 1888 —
a produce grocery which
he ran until the 1920s,
at which time he turned it over
to Costa's father.

The company has become largest
service wholesaler of fruit & vegetables
in the country
with operations in five major states.

In 1998, he became president of
the Geelong Football Club.
Frank Costa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On ya, ownoiz! :D ;)

Cant help but laugh when i see the title ... Professor Nutt Sacked.

Nut Sack.

Quote:
science really does seems to be in fantasy land

But serioulsy, yeah, i have noticed even today, since the Liberal Party politicians have come out and stated in various media outlets (like ABCs 4 corners here) that they are skeptics...the tax puppet scientists have ramped it up today, addressing the skeptics head on for a change, with comments like "We wouldnt be spending millions reasearching climate change
if it was a hoax, that would be crazy"

Well heres a Newsflash for you ,
you white coat wearing mad scientist puppets,
you WOULD spend millions,
if the return was BILLIONS,
gotta spends money to makes money...

Rothschild Australia and E3 International to take the lead in the global carbon trading market...

Emissions Trading Scheme ETS Australia (http://www.prisonplanet.com/rothschild-australia-and-e3-international-to-take-the-lead-in-the-global-carbon-trading-market.html)

Its also quite humourous to watch a half chinese,
and a fluent mandarin speaking
former diplomat to china,
defend themselves as not being communist,
i dont think ive ever before seen
the usually smug Wong
so flustered and defensive :p
.

Last UPDATED: November 11, 2009

Standing up to standover men

* Keith Moor
* From: Herald Sun
* October 30, 2006 12:00AM

COLES knew for years that the Calabrian mafia
charged a 50c tax on every case of fresh produce
bought by the giant supermarket chain.

The company obviously didn't like paying
more than it should for its fruit and vegetables.

But it also knew it could endanger staff
if it chose to tackle the mafia head on.

So it put up with the extortion racket as an unavoidable overhead,
just as rival Safeway did.

The supermarket chains passed on the cost of the scam to their customers -- meaning Victorians paid more than they should have for fresh produce for decades.

Members of the Costa family, including Geelong Football Club president Frank Costa and his younger brother Anthony, were threatened after bravely deciding to take a stand against the Calabrian mafia extortion racket.

The Geelong-based Costa Group is one of Australia's largest wholesale fruit and vegetable suppliers.

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The eldest son of Sicilian immigrants, Frank Costa developed the family business into an $800 million operation covering five states.

He said prominent Coles board member Lindsay Fox and Coles chairman Solomon Lew approached him in 1990 and asked him to help them end the Calabrian mafia's 50c-a-case scam.

A Coles executive later told police the extortion racket was costing Coles about $5 million a year.

Frank Costa told the authors of new crime book Mugshots2 that Mr Fox and Mr Lew had become aware of the extortion racket and were determined to stop it.

"Those two men (Fox and Lew) were telling me, 'Mate, you have got to fix things up for us. You've got to clean it up'," Mr Costa said in his first interview about the Calabrian mafia tax.

"They were on the board at the time. They said, 'Get in there and speak to Geoff Sadler'."

Geoff Sadler was a senior Coles executive and later became a St Kilda Football Club director.

"So I was talking with Geoff Sadler, and he said to me, 'Frank, we know we have got a problem. We want you to come and help us fix it, but we have got to wait until we get the right manager for you to work with. Someone with enough strength to be able to cope with the challenge'.

"Everybody was nervous. They said they would give me a ring as soon as they had found somebody."

Coles did eventually appoint a new manager to work with the Costa Group to try to break the Calabrian mafia's grip.

A decision was made that the Costa Group would start supplying about 30 per cent of the fruit and vegetable needs of Coles supermarkets from September 1990.

Word soon spread at the Melbourne wholesale fruit and vegetable market in Footscray Rd that the Costa Group was about to get a hefty slice of Coles business -- and the Calabrian mafia wasn't happy about it.

"We had rented some space near the market. About two or three weeks before we were due to start it got set on fire one Sunday night," Mr Costa said.

"It was huge. The place was burning like crazy. We lost a lot of our records. That was the first warning.

"The second warning was a week or two later, a week before we actually started our Coles distribution centre. The Coles distribution centre manager was arriving for work about 6 or 7 in the morning. When he got out of his car he got hit by two blokes.

"The two blokes belted the living daylights out of him and he was carted off to hospital. That was the second warning."

The third warning came in December 1990, soon after the Costa Group started supplying Coles.

As state manager for fresh produce at Coles, one of John Vasilopoulos' jobs was to investigate the extortion racket.

He was enjoying a night at his Ivanhoe home when his front doorbell rang about 10.30pm.

At first he didn't open the door, calling out, "Who's there?". After a voice said, "Open the door John", he opened it slightly.

Two shotgun blasts hit him in what police described as a classic operation.

Mr Vasilopoulos had shotgun pellets removed from his knees, thighs, stomach, chest and arms.
"He was physically hurt, but it also shattered him mentally," Frank Costa said.

"I got a phone call from Geoff Sadler the next morning and I came up from Geelong to see him and another Coles executive. They told me what had happened and they were really upset that one of their guys had been shot like that.

"They asked me if I was prepared to take over all the supply of fruit and vegetables to Coles, knowing the challenge it would be.

"I looked them straight in the eye and said if I had their support I would do it.

"I said, 'I am prepared to put myself and my senior guys on the line, but I will need your support' and they told me they would give me that support.

"Then we took over the whole supply.

"That's when the trouble really came."

The Costa brothers -- Frank, Anthony, Kevin and Robert -- were 25 per cent shareholders in the company, but Anthony did most of the hands-on work at the Melbourne market.

He set about finding new suppliers among stallholders at the market, different stallholders from those who had been supplying Coles in the past.

A prominent Calabrian mafia identity from the market soon approached Anthony Costa offering $1 million if he followed instructions as to which stallholders he bought produce from.

After discussing it with his brothers, Anthony Costa went back to the Calabrian mafia identity and told him the Costa Group didn't work like that and it would continue to buy fruit and vegetables from whoever it wanted.

The mafia agent told Anthony Costa the Costa Group would suddenly have difficulty selling fruit and vegetables to Coles.

Within days a Coles official started knocking back fruit and vegies supplied by the Costa Group.

"If we bought the best produce for the best price in the market he would send it back because we did not purchase it from the preferred supplier," Anthony Costa told police three years later.

"He would simply say it was not good enough. You can always find something.

"For example, it might be because of the grade or the size.

"If you want to be picky you can find fault with any produce purchased."

Anthony Costa admitted to police that the Costa Group caved in to pressure from the Calabrian mafia and started buying from stallholders who paid the 50c-a-case mafia tax.

As if by magic, the Coles official suddenly started accepting all the produce supplied by the Costas.

Anthony Costa told police it was common knowledge some of the Coles buyers were crooked.

His statement to police named the Calabrian mafia figure who demanded that he buy from certain stalls in the market.

It said that after the deal was done, the mafioso warned him, "I'll shoot you" if he tried to renege on the agreement.

"I couldn't see any other way other than to go along with what he wanted.

"If we lost the contract to supply Coles it would have been real financial hardship for us," Anthony Costa said.

"I told the others (his brothers) that it was against our grain, but if we wanted to survive we are going to have to meet the demands that (the mafia figure) put to us.

"So we agreed that that was the way to go and that I would go back and say, 'Yes, we will buy off their preferred suppliers'.

"Basically we would buy from whoever we were told to buy from.

"I basically told him that we would play the game the way he wanted us to play.

"We knew that the suppliers were paying this 50c levy.

"During the period of the 50c levy, when we were forced to purchase produce from preferred suppliers, we made our best money.

"Effectively, when we were forced to buy produce at a higher price from the preferred supplier, we would receive a percentage of that purchasing price.

"For example, if we paid an extra dollar, we would get an extra 10c in our pocket.

"In money terms the cost was passed on to Coles. This was not the way we wanted to do business, but it was the only way, otherwise we would lose the lot."

Frank Costa said he was outraged the Calabrian mafia had threatened him and Anthony.

He said the threats were not just to the Costa family, but also to Costa Group employees.

"I remember one staff member in particular who had a young family. He was very nervous," Frank Costa said.

He said he told Anthony to go back to the Calabrian mafia identity with a warning.

"I said, 'You go back and tell him that if one hair of any of my family is touched at all, he will get double that back in return to his family -- whatever that might be'.

"Now I wouldn't know where to start finding somebody to go and do that sort of thing, but he doesn't know that.

"It worked.

"He backed off."

Frank Costa said he believed the extortion racket was now over.

But he confirmed some of the mafia figures involved in the 50c-a-case levy were still heavily involved in the Melbourne market.

"Father Time has removed some of them out of the place," he said.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 05:55 AM
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http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fotos/FOTO-GALERIEN-R/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/hannover/enke-robert-torwart-tod/robert-enke__12400110__h-blutige-kopf-1,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349 .jpg

Nah,
SCREW THAT,
SIDEWAYS WITH A SHOVEL!

KICK those BLOODY, GREENIE,
ORANGE ORDERS LOYAL TO
THE VATICAN, "DOGS" back
where 'They' BELONG...
with The LEGION of BEASTLY
SLAVES of The BEAST!

And yet More of "Them"
AGENTS of THE LIE,
CONDEMNING HUMAN LIFE...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90565


Do you get mad at lions for eating zebras?

Do you get mad at polar bears eating seals?

Do you get mad at frogs for eating insects?

This kid did nothing wrong.



NO!

I DON'T, but then UNLIKE
GREENIES and ANIMAL "LIBERS",
WHO CAUSE MORE ANIMAL DEATHS
than they 'save'... AS DELIBERATELY
DESIGNED BY the TAVISTOCK AGENDA,
I LOVE Animals FOR WHAT THEY ARE.

YES!

The Kid Did NOTHING WRONG....

UNLIKE those NWO AGENDA PUSHERS
who CONDEMNED a CHILD,
WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING to Read
the story that got them on
"Their" HIGH HORSE!

Frozen with fear:
stranded teen v polar bears
ARJUN RAMACHANDRAN
November 11, 2009 - 10:32AM

Shot a polar bear dead ...
Jupi Nakoolak
is seen trapped on a floating chunk of ice.
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/11/850259/Jupi%20Nakoolak-420x0.jpg
Shot a polar bear dead ...
Jupi Nakoolak
is seen trapped on a floating chunk of ice.
Photo: AP

When it comes to scary, life-threatening situations,
being 17 and stranded in minus-15 degree temperatures
on a sheet of Arctic ice that has snapped off and
is drifting out to sea in the dark is one thing.

Knowing there are three hungry polar bears stalking you
on the same 30-metre wide ice floe is another.

But, battling hypothermia and frostbite,
Inuit teenager Jupi Nakoolak
survived his four-day ordeal ...
only by shooting the adult bear.

"It would have been a defensive kill.
I don't know what would have been scarier --
drifting in the dark with no gear or coming across a bear,"
said Ed Zebedee, director of the Government of
Nunavut's protection services branch.

Jupi - also named in local media as
Jupi Angootealuk -
had been on a polar bear hunting trip
with his 67-year-old uncle, Jimmy Nakoolak,
since last Friday.

They had left their snowmobile and stepped onto the sea ice
when it cracked and floated off,
Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper reported.

The ice cracked again the next day,
splitting the uncle and his nephew.

They were reported missing on Saturday,
prompting a search operation.

Rescuers found the uncle on Sunday morning close to shore,
said Mr Zebedee.

"He was all soaked and wet and started crawling at least two miles
on his knees because he was so tired and it was hard for his legs,"
Jerry Panniuq, the local mayor who spoke to Mr Nakoolak in hospital,
told the Globe and Mail.

By Sunday, the sheet of ice Jupi was on
had drifted four kilometres from the shore
when he spotted three polar bears,
an adult and two older cubs.

"Polar bears are the only animal that will
definitely stalk a human and eat them.
Nobody goes out on the land here without a gun,"
Mr Zebedee told the National Post.

Jupi had a gun and, in self-defence,
authorities say he was forced to shoot the adult bear.

On Sunday, pilot Phil Amos
spotted the teen on the ice patch
and circled him for about 40 minutes,
but Jupi did not wave at all,
perhaps fearing it might provoke the two cubs.

"I don't think he really wanted to move
because the bears were so close," Mr Amos told local media.

"I kind of flew down to see if I could get the bears to move away,
but they were very adamant about sticking around their mum."

While the air crews were able to drop Jupi
some chocolate and an emergency kit containing torches,
darkness set in before they could rescue him
and the teen was consigned to another freezing night on the ice sheet.

The need to suspend the search because of darkness
has now prompted calls for infrared sensors
to be installed aboard Canadian search aircraft.

At daybreak on Monday,
an aerial search team spotted Jupi again
and parachuted down to rescue him.
Authorities were amazed at his condition.

"Even after spending hours alone, huddling in temperatures
that dipped below -15C, the teen appeared to be in decent shape.
He was conscious, slightly hypothermic and appeared to have some
frostbite," Canadian rescue official Jean-Pierre Sharp told the Toronota Star.

Rob Hedley, senior administrative officer at Coral Harbour,
told Canadian TV: "It's quite incredible that he's in such good shape ….
As much as the polar bear is a bit of a dramatic aspect of it,
he had his weapon with him, thank goodness.

"But also it's basically surviving three days out on the land
with little food or water.
I was expecting this not to end
as happily as it did."

There was a similar happy ending in the the same region
about a year ago, when Australian Oliver Edwards-Neil
survived 18 hours floating on a sheet of ice
after his plane crashed.

The 25-year-old survived without food or water
in -20 degree temperatures, and was aware of
the threat of attack by polar bears but, unlike Jupi,
did not confront any.

"We saw a couple of seals in the morning ...
apparently there are polar bears but thank God
we didn't see them," Mr Edwards-Neil said last year.

Mr Edwards-Neil, and his flying partner who was stranded with him,
ended up hopping from one ice-sheet to another in a bid to
reach land before they were rescued by a fishing vessel.

Jupi's amazing survival was
described as "bittersweet"
by Joan Griffin,
general manager of the aviation company
that first spotted Jupi, as two cubs had been left orphaned
while a young man had been found alive.

"That's the glory of the Arctic," she told the Globe and Mail.
"A 17-year-old young man and he's seasoned enough
that he was able to save his own life - so very resilient.

"It is amazing."....
~ ~ ~
....that ARSEHOLES would even TRY
to CONDEMN THIS BOY!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 06:28 AM
Every phone call, email & web click to be stored
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90500

I thought this was the "News" section...

yet for years here, I've been WARNING
of CATHOLIC IBM BALLARAT,
DOING JUST THIS!

http://www.ballarat.edu.au/images/logo_250208.gif

Iconic Tenants

* IBM Ballarat
* State Revenue Office
* IBM - Regional Software Solutions Centre
* Ambulance Victoria
* ID Research
* Emergency Services Telecommunication Authority


IBM Ballarat
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/ibm_ballarat.jpg
[IBM Ballarat]

The leading enterprise on the UBTP is IBM's headquarters for computing services for South East Asia. Services available for customers in Australia as well as for IBM worldwide include: application management services, a customer care management centre, technical software services, database and data communications services, technical consulting services, security services, storage services and project management.

IBM's Client Service Centre, which provides helpdesk facilities to over 80 clients across a range of industries, was announced joint-winner of the National Award for Excellence in Customer Service. This achievement is the latest in a series of service excellence milestones for the regional facility, which IBM operates in partnership with the University of Ballarat’s School of Information Technology & Mathematical Sciences, with support from the Victorian State Government.

For more information about IBM Ballarat
visit the IBM website at http://www.ibm.com.au/

State Revenue Office
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/sro_ballarat.jpg
The State Revenue Office (SRO) is a $5million world-class purpose built revenue collection facility employing over 200 staff. SRO relocated 40 per cent of its operations from Melbourne CBD to UBTP, creating more than 180 skilled employment opportunities for people from the local region.

The Ballarat facility houses the majority of the SRO’s operations area and utilises state-of-the art technology. UBTP was chosen as a result of a feasibility study that identified Ballarat as the ideal regional centre to host the new SRO facility.

The UBTP enables SRO to be in close proximity to an existing cluster of business and technology initiatives, as well as education and training opportunities for staff at the nearby University of Ballarat.

For more information about the SRO visit their website at http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/.

IBM -
Regional Software Solutions Centre
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/irssc_ballarat.jpg
The RSSC, with approx 175 staff today,
also enables IBM to offer clients a world class,
lower cost, regional centre that provides a wide range of
innovative Application Management Services offerings.

In late 2004 Optus awarded IBM a three-year services contract that specifically centred around software development and maintenance being shifted from its Sydney offices to RSSC Ballarat, where the cost of doing business is significantly lower. This contract was extended for another 2 years in IBM - Regional Software Solutions Centre2007. Today Optus is one of a number of clients that leverage the low cost advantage of the IBM Regional Software Solutions Centre in Ballarat.

For information on the Bachelor of Information Technology (Professional Practice) undergraduate program visit the University of Ballarat website: http://www.ballarat.edu.au/coursefinder/display.php?ID=93

For information on the IBM Application Management Service offerings visit the IBM website http://www.ibm.com.au/

Ambulance Victoria
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/rav_ballarat.jpg
Rural Ambulance VictoriaAmbulance Victoria (AV) provides a quality ambulance service which meets the needs of people in rural, regional and remote areas of Victoria. AV’s head office located on the UBTP provides all management, administration and financial support for eight geographic rural operations areas. The Technology Services Division based at Ballarat develops strategies, and implements support systems for the organisation as a whole and individual divisions. To undertake these tasks the division has a team of more than 20 communications and IT professionals.

For more information about Ambulance Victoria visit their website at http://www.rav.vic.gov.au/.


iGlass
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/idr_ballarat.jpg
ID ResearchiGlass

develops and manufactures digital film glass products with their unique Polymer Dispersed LCD technology. The patented conductive inter-layer, composed of polymer and liquid crystals, and a proprietary production process enables the manufacture of large panels that have application in a number of rapidly expanding markets.

Production facilities and equipment at the UBTP have been commissioned and were completed in 2005. The inter-layer has application in residential, commercial, automotive and aircraft windows, interiors, skylights, as well as video projection screens, and other light transmission control devices.

For more information about iGlass visit their website at
http://www.iglass.biz

Emergency Services Telecommunication Authority
http://www.ubtp.com.au/images/esta_ballarat.jpg
The Emergency Services Telecommunication Authority (ESTA) is a statutory authority that has the responsibility for the ongoing delivery of emergency communications to the public and Victoria's emergency service organisations. ESTA provides Triple Zero call taking and dispatches event information to the police, fire brigade, ambulance service and the SES.

In doing this, it is responsible for the staff, technology and operational advancements that allow emergency services to arrive at the right place, on time and with vital information and critical support. The purpose built State Emergency Communications Centre located in the UBTP has redundancy capabilities that surpass many standards on an international level. As a state-of-the-art facility with a 4-star energy rating, ESTA demonstrates its pursuit for excellence in every facet of its business.

While there are two pre-existing metropolitan based communication centres, this new facility has provided the ability to take Triple Zero calls from anywhere in the state for any emergency right here at Mt Helen. Although often 'behind-the-scenes' ESTA offers world-class service to people in their greatest time of need. www.esta.vic.gov.au

http://www-07.ibm.com/innovation/au/smarterplanet/topics/itinfrastructure/images/DynamicInfrastructire_icon_170x150.jpg
http://www.ibm.com/au/en/

1. IBM Press room - Internet Commerce Security Laboratory, Ballarat - Australia
IBM Press Room -
The Internet Commerce
Security Laboratory (ICSL).
A joint venture between the University of Ballarat,
the Westpac Banking Corporation, IBM Australia,
and the Victorian Government. Opened in Ballarat
on the 14th of May
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/photo/24210.wss

2. IBM Press room - 2008-08-27 IBM Announces Major Development at the UB Technology Park ...
IBM Press Room - The University of Ballarat and IBM Australia will construct a new $10.8 million IT Services Centre at the University of Ballarat Technology Park (UBTP).
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/24990.ws...

3. IBM Press room - 2008-05-14 Australian Internet Security Laboratory opened - Australia
IBM Press Room -
The Internet Commerce
Security Laboratory (ICSL),
a joint venture between the University of Ballarat,
the Westpac Banking Corporation, IBM Australia,
and the Victorian Government, will be opened
in Ballarat today, 14
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/24208.ws...

4. IBM Press room - 2009-11-04 IBM E.X.I.T.E Camp encourages Indigenous Australians to...
Australia’s greatest ‘Learning Cities’, Ballarat is hosting the EXploring Interests in ... November 2009. Organised by IBM, E.X.I.T.E Ballarat is a four day camp involving a range
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/28764.ws...

5. IBM Press room - 2007-09-20 Glen Boreham's Speech to the American Chamber's of...
undergraduate program at the University of Ballarat where we have a Regional IT Services ... difference it makes is that Centre in Ballarat employs over 600 people in regional Australia
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/24300.ws...

6. IBM Press room - 2007-03-07 National Press Club Address, Glen Boreham, Managing...
employed by IBM’s Software Centre in Ballarat to be part of our global delivery network ... undergraduate program with the University of Ballarat, where students work at IBM and IBM experts
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/24561.ws...

7. IBM Press room - 2009-08-27 IBM partners with Monash University to prepare future...
industry and economy. This includes a decade-long association with Ballarat University which continues to provide employment and economic benefits in Victoria, as well as providing Ballarat graduates with industry-ready skills and
URL: http://www.ibm.com/press/au/en/pressrelease/28253.ws...

8. IBM - Communities - Partnering with IBM - Australia
Centre Anchor Foster Care Asylum Seeker Resource Centre Australian Doctors International Australian Theatre for Young People 5th Ballarat Scouts Banyule District Scouts Beacon Hill Fire Brigade Bushwalkers Wilderness Rescue Squad Career Keys
URL: http://www-07.ibm.com/ibm/au/responsibility/communit...

9. IBM - Classic Blue - Australia
Dedicated Business Continuity specialists 6 Australian and New Zealand specialist recovery centres including Adelaide, Auckland, Ballarat, Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney Over 1,500 shared and dedicated end-user positions Shared and dedicated data
URL: http://www-07.ibm.com/services/au/classicblue/index....

10. IBM Redbooks | System Programmer's Guide to: Workload Manager
particularly interested in Workload Manager and z/OS performance. He is the owner of Black Hill Software Pty. Ltd. located in Ballarat, Australia. The Web site is: Andrew Rowley Paola Bari ISBN 073848993X IBM Form Number SG24-6472-03 Number of
URL: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246472.html

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vera susa
11-11-2009, 06:46 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/63px-Wikipedia-logo.png

Today's featured picture
Sinai and Palestine Campaign
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Turkish_trenches_at_Dead_Sea2.jpg/250px-Turkish_trenches_at_Dead_Sea2.jpg
Turkish trenches that were dug along the Dead Sea
in the course of the Sinai and Palestine Campaign of World War I.


The campaign was a series of battles which took place in
the Sinai Peninsula, Palestine, and Syria
between 28 January 1915 and 28 October 1918.

Photo credit: American Colony, Jerusalem

Restoration: Lise Broer

American Colony
(Jerusalem)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/AmericanColony.jpg
Historical American Colony photo


The American Colony was a colony
established in Jerusalem in 1881
by members of a Christian utopian society
led by Anna and Horatio Spafford.

Now a neighborhood in East Jerusalem,
it is still known by that name today.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Jerusalem_panorama_early_twentieth_century2.jpg/250px-Jerusalem_panorama_early_twentieth_century2.jpg
Panorama of Jerusalem,
c. 1900-1940
by American Colony Jerusalem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jerusalem_panorama_early_twentieth_century2.j pg
(Have a CLOSE LOOK at
THIS DESERT HELL-HOLE
and KNOW it TOOK an
ANCIENT, GLOBAL CONSPIRACY
to convince The WORLD that IT IS
"THE GLORIOUS PROMISED LAND",
and that AUSTRALIA "IS STILL AN,
UNLIVEABLE, DANGEROUS DESERT"! :confused:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colony_%28Jerusalem%29

vera susa
11-11-2009, 08:24 AM
:D ;)
Online privacy activists
Control Your Info
'hijack' 289 Facebook groups

By staff writers and wires

news.com.au

November 11, 2009 12:27pm

Facebook
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7161506,00.jpg
The activists say a major design flaw let them become administrators of 289 Facebook groups. Picture: AFP.

* Group claims it hijacked 289 groups
* Warns users to protect their privacy
* Facebook says privacy not affected
* Technology: More gadget news, reviews
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,26335314-5014239,00.html

ACTIVISTS say they have seized control
of nearly 300 Facebook community groups
in an effort to expose how vulnerable
online reputations are to tampering.

An organisation called Control Your Info (CYI) has claimed credit for commandeering 289 Facebook Groups, saying it was simple to get into poorly protected administrative settings at the website.

Members of the affected Facebook groups had a warning message posted on their walls this week, according to CNN.

"Hello, we hereby announce that we have officially hijacked your Facebook group," the message said.

"This means we control a certain part of the information about you on Facebook. If we wanted we could make you appear in a bad way which could damage your image severly (sic)."

The activists had the ability to change anything in the group, including pictures, descriptions and settings, and christened each one with CYI's name and logo.

Related Coverage

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* Reader's Comments:
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NEWS.com.au,
* Facebook fixation harms student grades
NEWS.com.au, 13 Apr 2009
* Please don't leave, says Facebook
Adelaide Now, 19 Feb 2009
* Facebook protest over breastfeeding removal
Australian IT, 31 Dec 2008

Your Say

Social media sites = Hackers / Spammers / Data Miners paradise.

(Read More)
NotOnFacebook of Melbourne

Not a hack

However, Facebook denies the groups were hacked.

"There has been no hacking and there is no confidential information at risk," Facebook said.

CYI claims its motives were pure and that the move was more of a "take-over" than a hack, as it involved a loophole with group administrator roles.

The activist organisation's website says the Facebook incident is "just one example that really shows the vulnerabilities of social media."

"If you chose to express yourself on the internet, make sure the expressions are your own and not a spammers.

"This isn't some kind of scare tactic, nor is it a hack, it's a feature that can be used, and is being used, in bad ways."

How it works

Groups are themed pages that Facebook users can join to socialize online with people who have shared interests.

"Facebook Groups suffer from a major flaw," said a message on the CYI blog.

"If an administrator of a group leaves, anyone can register as a new admin. So, in order to take control of a Facebook group, all you really have to do is a quick search on Google."

But Facebook denies this is a flaw.

"The groups in question have been abandoned by their previous owners, which means any group member has the option to make themselves an administrator in order to continue communication to the group," Facebook said.

"Group administrators have no access to private user information and group members can leave a group at any time. "

"For small groups, administrators can simply edit a group name or info, moderate discussion, and message group members. The names of large groups cannot be changed nor can anyone message all members. "

"In the rare instances when we find that a group has been changed inappropriately, we will disable the group, which is the action we plan for these groups."

CYI promised to restore the violated groups to their original conditions after it made its point.

"Our main goal is to draw attention to questions concerning online privacy awareness," CYI said.

"People have even lost their jobs over Facebook content. We wanted to do something about this."

11/11 - Updated with Facebook's response


Funny, I had go back and
EDIT MY USUAL HACKS!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 08:47 AM
ENKE died at EILVESE
part of city "Neustadt am Rübenberge".

Coat of arms Eilvese:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Wappen_Eilvese.png

What on earth is that. A pott on arms...surrounded by 11 sunbeams, nuclear colors
looks like the HOLY GRAIL?
A strong POT on arms - ARMSTRONG?



Named after elf Huts built up by Fishers at the lake:
ELF AT THE SEA

SOCCER = ELF = ELEVEN = 11

and:

HEDGEHOG and BANK (HEDGEFONDS):

ENKE anagram KNEE.

KNEE = german "KNIE" or "KNICK".

"KNICK" = english "HEDGE BANK".


Now SEE, WHY I DON'T get confused, lost,
MISS-led and DECEIVED,
by "Information Overload", is that I GO TO
THE ORIGINAL SOURCE of ALL UNDERSTANDING:


Jeremiah 1

1 The words of Jeremiah son of Hilkiah,
one of the priests at Anathoth in the territory of Benjamin.
2 The word of the LORD came to him in the thirteenth year of
the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah, 3 and through
the reign of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah,
down to the fifth month of the eleventh year of Zedekiah
son of Josiah king of Judah,
when the people of Jerusalem went into exile.

The Call of Jeremiah

4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,

5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

6 "Ah, Sovereign LORD," I said,
"I do not know how to speak; I am only a child."

7 But the LORD said to me, "Do not say, 'I am only a child.'
You must go to everyone I send you
to and say whatever I command you.
8 Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you
and will rescue you," declares the LORD.

9 Then the LORD reached out his hand and touched my mouth
and said to me, "Now, I have put my words in your mouth.
10 See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms
to uproot and tear down,
to destroy and overthrow,
to build and to plant."



13 The word of the LORD came to me again:
"What do you see?"
"I see a boiling pot,
tilting away from the north," I answered.

14 The LORD said to me,
"From the north disaster will be poured out
on all who live in the land.
15 I am about to summon
all the peoples of the northern kingdoms,"
declares the LORD.
"Their kings will come and set up their thrones
in the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem;
they will come against all her surrounding walls
and against all the towns of Judah.

16 I will pronounce my judgments on my people
because of their wickedness in forsaking me,
in burning incense to other gods
and in worshiping what their hands have made.

17 "Get yourself ready!
Stand up and say to them whatever I command you.
Do not be terrified by them,
or I will terrify you before them.
18 Today I have made you a fortified city,
an iron pillar and a bronze wall
to stand against the whole land—
against the kings of Judah, its officials,
its priests and the people of the land.
19 They will fight against you but
will not overcome you,
for I am with you and will rescue you,"
declares the LORD.


Jeremiah - Chapter 1
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=1&v=13&t=KJV#13

vera susa
11-11-2009, 09:12 AM
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/11/852022/scadding192-192x128.jpg
Les
$81m:
that's why Les is laughing

British IT workers who
call themselves the
Magnificent Seven
win record payout.

* 'Last $10'


The Clash -
The Magnificent Seven
The Clash - The Magnificent Seven - YouTube


They feared the sack,
but they'd won $81m
November 11, 2009 - 2:08PM


Les and Samantha Scadding
have scooped Britain's biggest
lottery prize of 45 million pounds
or $80 million.

* Video
http://www.smh.com.au/world/they-feared-the-sack-but-theyd-won-81m-20091111-i7vo.html

A group of British IT workers who won £45 million
($81 million) in a record lottery payout feared,
when they received the call about the win,
they were going to be sacked.

They are rich beyond their wildest dreams. But as the nine winners of Britain's largest lottery prize spoke of their good fortune, their dreams turned out to be surprisingly modest.

Sports cars, superyachts and exotic holidays? Not quite. A Vauxhall Corsa and a trip to Menorca were the biggest extravagances that some of the new millionaires could countenance as they tried to come to terms with their windfalls.

Winners .... from left to right,
Emma Cartwright, Ceri Scullion, Sean Connor,
Alex Parry, James Bennett, Donna Rhodes and
John Walsh celebrate.
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/11/851502/lottery-420x0.jpg
Winners .... from left to right,
Emma Cartwright, Ceri Scullion, Sean Connor,
Alex Parry, James Bennett, Donna Rhodes and
John Walsh celebrate.
Photo: AFP

The holders of the two jackpot-winning tickets in Friday's £91 million Euromillions draw were unveiled as Les Scadding and his wife Samantha Peachey-Scadding, from South Wales, and a syndicate of IT workers from Merseyside, who call themselves The Magnificent Seven. Each ticket was worth £45,570,835.50.

Mr Scadding, 58, who recently overcame cancer, declared himself "a very lucky man". "I'm lucky to be here today even without my winnings," he said.

The father of three grown-up children from a previous marriage and his 38-year-old wife live in a three-bedroom end of terrace house in Caerleon, near Newport. He bought a lucky dip ticket because he forgot to take the card bearing his usual numbers on his trip to Tesco.

The mechanic and haulage driver was made redundant a year ago and, until yesterday, was £68 overdrawn.

He said he was looking forward to spoiling his wife, who runs a marketing and public relations business.

"We have struggled this year but now it is my turn to make it up to Sam," he said. His first purchase would be a black Range Rover Sport with ivory interior, he added.

Mr Scadding described the win as "fate".

"It's a funny thing but for the last 12 years I have always said I'm going to win the lottery. My family all laughed at me. My daughter, who lives in Abu Dhabi, always asked, 'Have you won the lottery?' I rang her at the weekend and when I told her the whoop at the end was just incredible."

At a separate press conference on Merseyside, the other seven winners, who will each bank £6.5 million, reflected on their new lives. John Walsh, 57, James Bennett, 28, Sean Connor, 32, Alex Parry, 19, Emma Cartwright, 23, Ceri Scullion, 35, and Donna Rhodes, 39, have already quit their jobs at the BT office in Liverpool, where they were employed by Hewlett Packard on salaries of between £15,000 and £18,000 a year.

They formed the syndicate only four months ago and won also with a lucky dip ticket. Mr Walsh said he had been unable to sleep after the draw and had "checked the numbers on Teletext at 3am".

"I had to wake up my wife, son and daughter so they could double check I wasn't dreaming," he added.

On alerting his colleagues, he said: "I didn't quite get the response I expected because, with the economy in the state it's in, they all thought I was calling them to tell them they had been made redundant."

Mrs Scullion, who is planning a holiday to Menorca, said she fell off her stool in a nail salon when told the good news.

Miss Parry, the youngest winner, had been saving for a year to buy her first car "and so the first thing I will do is treat myself to a blue Vauxhall Corsa".

Amid the celebrations, one person was left thinking of what could have been.

Miss Parry's sister, Natasha, works in the same office but did not join the syndicate.

"She was happy for me but I think she was secretly a bit gutted when she found out the news," said Miss Parry.

Winners' words

"I fell off the stool in the nail salon'

" We are in a daze; it is so much to take in. But this will change us for the better. There is so much we can do for the people we love.? Samantha Peachey-Scadding

"I have never owned a house and we have already been searching on the internet. It is the most amazing feeling to be able to click the button which says 'no maximum price'. It is hard to believe that these dream homes we are looking at are now in our price range." James Bennett

"I was in my hair salon getting my nails done and thought he was joking. I'd got a message: 'Call me as soon as possible.' I thought I'd left my PC on or done something wrong. I was in total shock. I fell off the stool and ran around the salon. Then I went back and said, 'Can you finish my nails?' Ceri Scullion

"I always wanted to go to university but was worried about the debt I would be in. Now I don't have to worry." Alex Parry

London Telegraph

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now read the Lyrics,
CAREFULLY...

Ring! Ring! It's 7:00 A.M.!
Move y'self to go again
Cold water in the face
Brings you back to this awful place
Knuckle merchants and you bankers, too
Must get up an' learn those rules
Weather man and the crazy chief
One says sun and one says sleet
A.M., the F.M. the P.M. too
Churning out that boogaloo
Gets you up and gets you out
But how long can you keep it up?
Gimme Honda, Gimme Sony
So cheap and real phony
Hong Kong dollars and Indian cents
English pounds and Eskimo pence

You lot! What?
Don't stop! Give it all you got!
You lot! What?
Don't stop! Yeah!

Working for a rise, better my station
Take my baby to sophistication
She's seen the ads, she thinks it's nice
Better work hard - I seen the price
Never mind that it's time for the bus
We got to work - an' you're one of us
Clocks go slow in a place of work
Minutes drag and the hours jerk

"When can I tell 'em wot I do?
In a second, maaan...oright Chuck!"

Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss
It's our profit, it's his loss
But anyway THE lunch bells ring
Take one hour and do your thanng!
Cheeesboiger!

What do we have for entertainment?
Cops kickin' Gypsies on the pavement
Now the news - snap to attention!
The lunar landing of the dentist convention
Italian mobster shoots a lobster
Seafood restaurant gets out of hand
A car in the fridge
Or a fridge in the car?
Like cowboys do - in T.V. land

You lot! What? Don't stop. Huh?

So get back to work an' sweat some more
The sun will sink an' we'll get out the door
It's no good for man to work in cages
Hits the town, he drinks his wages
You're frettin', you're sweatin'
But did you notice you ain't gettin'?
Don't you ever stop long enough to start?
To take your car outta that gear
Don't you ever stop long enough to start?
To get your car outta that gear
Karlo Marx and Fredrich Engels
Came to the checkout at the 7-11
Marx was skint - but he had sense
Engels lent him the necessary pence

What have we got? Yeh-o, magnificence!!

Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi
Went to the park to check on the game
But they was murdered by the other team
Who went on to win 50-nil
You can be true, you can be false
You be given the same reward
Socrates and Milhous Nixon
Both went the same way - through the kitchen
Plato the Greek or Rin Tin Tin
Who's more famous to the billion millions?
News Flash: Vacuum Cleaner Sucks Up Budgie
Oooohh...bub-bye

Magnificent seven
Magnificence!!
:D

palomino
11-11-2009, 09:26 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90620 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90620)

The Vatican joins the search for alien life





http://www.australianrulesfootball.com.au/system/images//Stadiums/Sisters%20of%20Mercy.jpg
(old photo)

The Church of Scientology's premises in Melbourne. Location Cnr of Mt Alexander, South St and Ailsa St, Ascot Vale. Yes practically the whole block. Its stll being refubished.

The previous owner was Sisters of Mercy/Australian Catholic University

Previous owner before that
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:lrUcI6rKa2tKNM:http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/logo.gifEssendon Bombers

http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-dep...?page=fullpage (http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-dep...?page=fullpage)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23646204-2,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23646204-2,00.html)
http://www.realestatesource.com.au/V...s-Auction.html (http://www.realestatesource.com.au/V...s-Auction.html)


http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-life/partying-like-its-2009-is-still-in-vogue-20091027-hj2c.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-life/partying-like-its-2009-is-still-in-vogue-20091027-hj2c.html)

No-one has bought their previous premises in Russell Street.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 09:29 AM
The Clash -
Safe European Home

The Clash - Safe European Home - YouTube

Well I just got back an’ I wish I never leave now (where’d you go?)
Who dat Martian arrival at the airport yeah? (Where’d you go?)
How many local dollars for a local anaesthetic? (Where’d you go?)
The Johnny on the corner wasn't very sympathetic (where’d you go?)

I went to the place where every white face is an invitation to robbery
Sitting here in my safe European home
Don’t wanna go back there again

Wasn’t I lucky and wouldn’t it be loverly? (Where’d you go?)
Send us all cards, and have a lay in on Sunday (where’d you go?)
I was there for two weeks, so how come I never tell (where’d you go?)
That natty dread drinks at the Sheraton Hotel yeah? (Where’d you go?)

I went to the place where every white face is an invitation to robbery
Sitting here in my safe European home
Don’t wanna go back there again

Ah-ah
Ah-ah
Ah-ah

They got the sun and they got the palm tress (where’d you go?)
They got the weed, and they got the taxies (where’d you go?)
Whoa, the harder they come, n’ the home of ol’ Bluebeat (where’d you go?)
Yes I’d stay and be a tourist but can’t take the gun play (where’d you?)

I went to the place where every white face is an invitation to robbery
An’ sitting here in my safe European home
Don’t wanna go back there again

Yeah? Rudie come from Jamaica Rudie can’t fail
Rudie come from Jamaica Rudie can’t fail
Rudie come from Jamaica cos Rudie can’ t fail
Rudie come From Jamaica rude cant fail
Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie can’t fail
Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie can’t fail
A-Rudie loot and a-Rudie shoot and a-Rudie come up then back down
Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie *&^$&£”£%£*
Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie can’t fail
Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie, Rudie he can’t fail
Nice guy European home
Explosive European home
Twenty Four Track European home
Yes he come and yes he go knows what Rudie knows...

...and what Rudie KNOWS is,
he went to The AMERICAS...
and EUROPE is NOT "Safe" but
EXPLOSIVE...so that leaves...;)

palomino
11-11-2009, 09:50 AM
http://news.efinancialcareers.co.uk/newsandviews_item/newsItemId-21997

GUEST COMMENT: Why it’s time to move Down Under
9 November 2009
Rachel Baldy (http://news.efinancialcareers.co.uk/newsSearch/type-newsandviews-author-Rachel__Baldy_.htm), Hays
(it came up that colour when I posted so I'll leave it like that)


Since the financial crisis erupted in 2007, we’ve been seen increasing numbers of British-based people seeking to move to Australia and New Zealand.


Hays now has up to 200 enquiries a week in the UK from people seeking work in Australia and New Zealand. 20% of these are people from Australia and New Zealand who have used the downturn to reassess their priorities and decided they’d rather be closer to their families, or who can’t find opportunities here. But 60% are people from the UK and Ireland who are looking for new lives Down Under.


The appeal of the Antipodes is clear. Australia is the only developed country that has not technically entered a recession; this, coupled with its appealing weather and lifestyle has made it an increasingly popular choice for British migrants looking to flee the challenging British employment market. According to our latest research, the number of Brits seeking jobs in Australia and New Zealand has risen by 20% in the past year.

The Australian employment market is comparatively buoyant and there remains a demand for people with specialist skill sets. Headcount freezes are lifting and we are beginning to see more vacancies for short and long-term temporary staff to work on new projects or to clear backlogs. Employers are starting to recruit staff that can drive more revenue, minimise risk and improve business processes. The focus is namely on replacement or restructuring hires. In particular, international companies are looking for professionals with experience of business turnarounds.

British professionals considering a relocation need to investigate their sector and gain an understanding of if and where their skills are needed. Unfortunately, it is largely only individuals with very specialist skills who will be able to get through the strict immigration policies.

Cost accountants, financial and commercial analysts and internal auditors are all currently in demand within the commercial sector. Supervisors, managers and senior managers are in demand across taxation and business services. The public sector seeks management accountants with public sector experience, systems accountants and processing staff.




My two cents: have faith and ask for guidance.

palomino
11-11-2009, 09:53 AM
Thank you so much Vera Susa for warning people ahead of time.

Where is the Global Power Base shifting to ?

palomino
11-11-2009, 10:12 AM
http://www.manmonthly.com.au/Article/Industry-wins-in-SA-defence-expansion/504136.aspx

Industry wins in SA defence expansion

Air Warfare Destroyer and Collins Class Submarines will embark upon multi-billion dollar contracts with the South Australian Government as the state seeks to expand its defence industry.

The State Government has launched an initiative to help South Australia’s defence industry secure a competitive and productive workforce.
Employment, Training and Further Education Minister Michael O’Brien says a key objective of the Defence Industry Workforce Action Plan is to establish a clear future direction for the industry.

“If we’re to build on our reputation as the nation’s ‘Defence State’, it’s critical we also build a high-skill, high-tech and adaptable workforce,” said Mr O’Brien.

“Significant new defence projects are driving industry growth, including the $8 billion Air Warfare Destroyer contract and the multi billion dollar Collins Class Submarine assembly contract.”

The state plan aims to develop industry leadership in workforce planning and skills development, attract and recruit a highly skilled workforce, and develop and promote industry-led pathways from school to VET and/or higher education.

“The Rann Government has secured around $44 billion worth of defence projects over the past five years, and we’re committed to increasing the number of defence jobs in South Australia to 28,000 by 2014,” said Mr O’Brien.

“Ensuring the defence industry has sufficient numbers of highly skilled workers is critical to achieve the State Government’s target to double the defence industry’s economic contribution to $2 billion per annum by 2013.”




And no, I'm not bragging or happy about it.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 10:54 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90620 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90620)

The Vatican joins the search for alien life





http://www.australianrulesfootball.com.au/system/images//Stadiums/Sisters%20of%20Mercy.jpg
(old photo)

The Church of Scientology's premises in Melbourne. Location Cnr of Mt Alexander, South St and Ailsa St, Ascot Vale. Yes practically the whole block. Its stll being refubished.

The previous owner was Sisters of Mercy/Australian Catholic University

Previous owner before that
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:lrUcI6rKa2tKNM:http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/logo.gifEssendon Bombers

http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-dep...?page=fullpage (http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-dep...?page=fullpage)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23646204-2,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23646204-2,00.html)
http://www.realestatesource.com.au/V...s-Auction.html (http://www.realestatesource.com.au/V...s-Auction.html)


http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-life/partying-like-its-2009-is-still-in-vogue-20091027-hj2c.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-life/partying-like-its-2009-is-still-in-vogue-20091027-hj2c.html)

No-one has bought their previous premises in Russell Street.

Thank you so much Vera Susa for warning people ahead of time.

Where is the Global Power Base shifting to ?


And THAN YOU SO MUCH for simply and SOUNDLY
CARING to DO YOUR OWN STUDY into the topic :)!

Like BOTHERING to NOTICE what you SEE in your REAL,
day to day life, and not waiting for MSM to 'make it news' ;),
as with The CATHOLIC CHURCH and SCIENTOLOGY.

So WHY don't others 'click' that this same
GLOBAL INSTITUTION that
FINANCIALLY ASSISTED SCIENTOLOGY,
also FUNDS things like 'education', 'health',
'science', 'archaeology', IBM and such
VERY LONG ESTABLISHED CONTROL Systems,
like "The Arts" that also SOLD US ALIEN
HORROR STORIES and STILL people in
The Conspiracy INDUSTRY, PUSH 'ALIENS'
and TRASH THE WORD of GOD
JUST LIKE THE VATICAN!

vera susa
11-11-2009, 08:58 PM
Now SEE, WHY I DON'T get confused, lost,
MISS-led and DECEIVED,
by "Information Overload", is that I GO TO
THE ORIGINAL SOURCE of ALL UNDERSTANDING:


Jeremiah 1

1 The words of Jeremiah son of Hilkiah,
one of the priests at Anathoth in the territory of Benjamin.
2 The word of the LORD came to him in the thirteenth year of
the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah, 3 and through
the reign of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah,
down to the fifth month of the eleventh year of Zedekiah
son of Josiah king of Judah,
when the people of Jerusalem went into exile.

The Call of Jeremiah

4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,

5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

6 "Ah, Sovereign LORD," I said,
"I do not know how to speak; I am only a child."

7 But the LORD said to me, "Do not say, 'I am only a child.'
You must go to everyone I send you
to and say whatever I command you.
8 Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you
and will rescue you," declares the LORD.

9 Then the LORD reached out his hand and touched my mouth
and said to me, "Now, I have put my words in your mouth.
10 See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms
to uproot and tear down,
to destroy and overthrow,
to build and to plant."



13 The word of the LORD came to me again:
"What do you see?"
"I see a boiling pot,
tilting away from the north," I answered.

14 The LORD said to me,
"From the north disaster will be poured out
on all who live in the land.
15 I am about to summon
all the peoples of the northern kingdoms,"
declares the LORD.
"Their kings will come and set up their thrones
in the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem;
they will come against all her surrounding walls
and against all the towns of Judah.

16 I will pronounce my judgments on my people
because of their wickedness in forsaking me,
in burning incense to other gods
and in worshiping what their hands have made.

17 "Get yourself ready!
Stand up and say to them whatever I command you.
Do not be terrified by them,
or I will terrify you before them.
18 Today I have made you a fortified city,
an iron pillar and a bronze wall
to stand against the whole land—
against the kings of Judah, its officials,
its priests and the people of the land.
19 They will fight against you but
will not overcome you,
for I am with you and will rescue you,"
declares the LORD.


Jeremiah - Chapter 1
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=1&v=13&t=KJV#13

And on the Birthday of my First Born...
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7163691,00.jpg
Australia records
more births in 2008
than any other year
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26339072-36398,00.html

They also say that isn't enough to
'replace old people', but...

Boatpeople
offered resettlement
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7163651,00.jpg
Boatpeople
offered resettlement

THE Sri Lankans aboard the
Oceanic Viking have been offered
resettlement in Australia.
(Gee, RE-settlement, they weren't 'settled'
to begin with, but then God Did Promise,
RE-GATHERING the Scattered and Lost of
Israel ;))
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26337559-421,00.html

* Boatpeople:
'Emotional blackmailers'

SRI Lanka's ambassador
to the United Nations
has condemned
78 asylum seekers
aboard an Australian Customs ship
as emotional blackmailers. ...
...
He defended his government's decision
to expel Australian UNICEF
spokesman James Elder from the country
after he spoke out
about conditions in the camps.
...
"It is not for them to go out
making statements which could
embarrass a host government.''
(Yep, it's about,
"STOP SHOWING THE WORLD
HOW BADLY WE TREAT OUR OWN!)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26339073-29277,00.html

Plan to boost migrants

Rudd
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/07/28/652047/rudd65-90x60.jpg
Rudd Government is considering
ways to allow more Sri Lankans
to emigrate to Australia.

Secret plan to boost
migrants from Sri Lanka
MATT WADE IN COLOMBO
AND YUKO NARUSHIMA
November 12, 2009
http://www.smh.com.au/national/secret-plan-to-boost-migrants-from-sri-lanka-20091111-i9zs.html

Gee, now who told me to post all this,
YEARS BEFORE it 'became news'?

Oh, that's right, The Living Creator
who KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES,
including answering those who
SEEK HIM with their
Whole HEARTS and MINDS and
Do His WILL...which on today's advice,
was to WARN THOSE Plotting with
SMOOTHNESS to Kill those HE
CALLED OUT to WITNESS and WARN.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 09:12 PM
Airline will allow you to
jump the queues
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7163781,00.jpg
Airline will allow you to
jump the queues

QANTAS frequent flyer cards
to be microchipped
to become a
permanent boarding pass.

Qantas lets microchipped
frequent fliers skip the queues

By Andrew Carswell

The Daily Telegraph

November 12, 2009 12:01am

Qantas
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7163782,00.jpg
Passengers will simply scan their card
at stand-alone kiosks in the terminal
then go through security to their gate / File

* Qantas frequent flyers to check in with cards
* Microchip will be a permanent boarding pass
* Aiming to halve domestic check-in times
* MP wants to stop Kiwis coming

QANTAS is aiming to halve its
domestic check-in times
by using microchips in its frequent flyer cards,
giving holders their own permanent boarding pass
and allowing them to skip the queues.

In the new system, passengers will simply scan their card at stand-alone kiosks in the terminal then go through security to their gate.

A simplified baggage drop will be provided, with frequent flyers given a permanent microchipped bag tag electronically linked to their pass, The Daily Telegraph reports.

Qantas boss Alan Joyce said the technology, to start next year, will benefit all Qantas passengers by cutting check-in times.

The service will be available to the six million members of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program and all Qantas Club members.

Related Coverage

* Migration: 'Stop the flood of Kiwis'
* Qantas speeds up boarding
Adelaide Now, 12 Nov 2009
* Qantas to halve check-in times
Perth Now, 11 Nov 2009
* Qantas rules out Frequent Flyer IPO
NEWS.com.au, 11 Nov 2009
* Qantas rolls out new check-in technology
NEWS.com.au, 11 Nov 2009
* Qantas plan to cut check-in times
Herald Sun, 11 Nov 2009

Your Say

What a cool idea :)

(Read More)
Lila

Chief executive Alan Joyce says the Qantas' Airport of the Future initiative will begin next year with the introduction of the next generation check-in.

"Qantas Frequent Flyers' cards will be embedded with an intelligent chip, transforming them into personal boarding passes linked to permanent bag tags," Mr Joyce said.

"This will enable Qantas passengers to swipe their Frequent Flyer card on a reader and head to a simplified baggage drop, or straight through the security process to their departure gate, or Qantas lounge."

The airline boss also confirmed his commitment yesterday to maintaining Qantas' premium services, promising not to "Jetstar-ise" the full-service air carrier under his watch.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26339111-5014090,00.html

And to underscore the "DOMESTIC" message,
at the bottom of this 'news':

http://www.news.com.au/files/184x100_story_hertz_holdrives_promo.jpg
http://www.news.com.au/hertzholidaydrives?from=storypage

vera susa
11-11-2009, 09:42 PM
And what happens when anyone puts
MAN and his MYTHS ABOVE what IS REAL>>>>

Guru accused of
torturing French aristocrats
for years

AISLINN LAING IN LONDON
AND HENRY SAMUEL IN PARIS
November 12, 2009

A FRENCHMAN based in Oxford
has been arrested over claims he
kidnapped, tortured and brainwashed
several generations of an aristocratic family
into giving up their fortune.

Thierry Tilly, 45, allegedly posed as a secret agent
to persuade the Vedrines family that they were
the lost descendants of an ancient society called
L'Equilibre du Monde (The Balance of the World),
and that he had ''superhuman powers'' to help them
reclaim their illustrious past and its ''limitless treasure''.

Eleven members of the family,
headed by matriarch Guillemette, aged 88,
severed ties with relations and friends
and barricaded themselves in their chateau near Bordeaux
for five years after meeting Mr Tilly in the late 1990s.
They went on to sell off €3 million ($4.8 million) worth of furniture,
jewellery and properties including the family seat.

Yesterday, his alleged victims played down the claims of abuse,
saying Mr Tilly was simply a ''good family friend''.

Three years ago, the group moved to Oxford
and lived in various suburban homes, several of which
they failed to pay rent on.
They were taken to the small claims court as a result.

Mr Tilly was arrested in Switzerland last month
and extradited to Bordeaux where he stands accused of
''fraud, abuse of weakness, extortion, kidnapping
and acts of torture and barbarism''.

Christine de Vedrines, the wife of Guillemette's son Charles-Henri,
went to police in March alleging she had suffered violent abuse
at the hands of her family and Mr Tilly because she could not provide
the ''key'' to the family fortune they believed she possessed.

''She lived in the dark for days,
with only water to sustain her,'' a French police source said.

Charles-Henri's brother Philippe, 71,
a former oil company executive,
left the group in February 2008,
attacking Mr Tilly's methods.

Jean Marchand, 62, who has not seen his wife, Ghislaine de Vedrines,
or his two adult children since September 2001, alleged that Mr Tilly
used brainwashing techniques
which were
''extremely complicated''.

Daniel Picotin, an anti-cult campaigner
acting as a lawyer for Mr Marchand, said of Mr Tilly:
''He ruined an entire family -
three generations.''

Charles-Henri said he had ''nothing to say''
about Mr Tilly's arrest or the allegations.
Diane, the daughter of Charles Henri and Christine,
who manages an ice-cream parlour in Oxford, said:
''Thierry Tilly is a really good friend of my family and of mine.''

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now SERIOUSLY CONSIDER what we BLACKBALLED by
The VATICAN and it's LEGION of LYING MYTH SALESMEN,
FROM ELITE, POWERFUL FAMILIES are up against, when
EXPOSING "THEM"...then, SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHO IS
The Only ONE who CAN and DOES SAVE US from "Their" PLOTS.

Good Readers, it is still the case that NONE of those
who attack and cause me much "worldly" grief,
HAVE DARED address THE QUESTION I put to all:

WHY has NO CONSPIRACY GURU or "Church",
RE-MAPPED The Lands DESCRIBED in Holy Scripture,
since SCIENCE has MAPPED the WHOLE WORLD that
GOD DESCRIBED, FROM the Age of The Super-Continent
that GOD ALSO DESCRIBED, that SCIENCE ALSO found
TO BE TRUE?

vera susa
11-11-2009, 09:52 PM
AND, WHY can mention of THE SAVIOUR
BE REJECTED from a thread who's author,
'professes' to 'be like Him', while that same
author MAKES A "CHAMPION" out of The one,
who TRASHES HIM?

Jeremiah (Hebrew:יִרְמְיָה, Yirmĭyahu, meaning “Yahweh exalts”, in English pronounced /dʒɛrɨˈmaɪ.ə/) was one of the prophets of the Hebrew Bible.

I don't care much for the bible.
I focus on much older, nature religions, and northern mythology is part of that older belief,
which is also shown in christianity, where they used all the old belief and turned it around in order to match with new dogma.
Besides, I don't think God spoke to people either, and if he did, then he lied, as paranormal research shows.
Btw paranormal phenomenon is the same as religious phenomenon.
It's like amok runners, that later say, God told them to kill.
The word GOD or GOTT btw comes from Godan or Wodan, origin indogerman Fatati and also means Father, and Fairy.
THOR (thunder) was the same. The loud flying phenomenon of genius-demons along the sky, also known as Percht (french pere = father).
Thats what they named God after. The paranormal phenomneon of all sorts of fairies.
Anything else is a matter of belief and you always mix up belief with knowledge, but that is what fanatics always do, that's why we call them fanatic's.

And I don't much care for willing ignorance,
and get heated against deliberate deceivers,
who hate anyone with understanding.

Nice of you at least to admit that you serve the
Northern Invaders, The Enemy's of Life and
Truth, and Australia, as they lose.

And God knows that anyone who can so fanatically
ignore the ages of man on earth during the age of
the super-continent and prior to the scattering of
The Tribes of Israel OUT OF Australia to the North,
and keep lying of ANY beliefs being OLDER than
THE OLDEST PEOPLES, Australian Natives, IS,
A DELIBERATE DECEIVER.

But then "you" MUST ignore the native peoples of
THE OLDEST LAND, as their HISTORY DOES go
back to The Beginning and AGREES with God's Word,
as DOES SCIENCE.

It is NOT The 'Christian WEST' that poisoned the world,
but the SELFISH, PRIDEFUL 'Mighty NORTH' that took
and TWISTED God's Word into 'Fairy Stories of HORROR',
as The Vatican, The 'Jews' AND "YOU", continue to do today.

You would have been better off simply posting,
"I don't much care.", and left it that, at least that
is not a self damning lie, but a warning to readers
of why you are so "In Love" with SELLING FEAR
of DEMONS and hopelessness.

Oh, and that KNOWLEDGE YOU ADMIT I HAVE,
comes from TAKING GOD'S ADVICE and STUDYING
what IS REAL in The Whole, Real World and NOT
making 'gods' or Gurus of LYING MEN.

vera susa
11-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Right, so now what did I always say about
The RE-Planting and RE-BUILDING of THIS,
GLORIOUS LAND, and HOW IMPORTANT
The EAST IS to "Them"...IMPORTANT ENOUGH
to WITHHOLD Development then BURN OUT the
LOCALS, readying to DEVELOP what The 'ELITE'
of EUROPE INTEND TO TAKEOVER....

Building leads the region's recovery
BY KIM STEPHENS
11 Nov, 2009 11:18 PM

BUILDING permits issued in Victoria's north-west
jumped by 46 per cent in the September quarter,
according to new statistics -
the second-strongest growth rate in the state.

Increases in building activity from the September 2008 quarter
were recorded across regional Victoria and outer Melbourne,
Deputy Building Commissioner Sarah McCann-Bartlett said yesterday. However, some areas fared better than others.

The state's north-west,
encompassing Ballarat, Bacchus Marsh,
Ararat, Maryborough and Mildura,
was eclipsed only by Victoria's north-east,
where building permits issued
climbed by 54 per cent.

Ms McCann-Bartlett said the Federal Government's economic stimulus
had largely driven the growth in regional Victoria -
the largest rises in
the north-west had come from
the hospital and health-care sector,
with a rise of more than
5000 per cent, public buildings
(185.68 per cent) and residential permits (100.46 per cent).

"Regional Victoria has been protected
from some of the largest drops in the residential sectors
that have hit inner Melbourne," she said.

Ms McCann-Bartlett said construction work at
public schools,
including a $5 million permit
for new buildings at Lake Gardens,
comprised the majority of the public buildings permits.

The massive jump in health-care permits
was largely due to a $2.5 million extension to
an aged-care hostel in Maryborough.

Also in the September quarter,
domestic construction rebounded strongly
in the north-west,
thanks to increased
state and federal building incentives
for first-home buyers.

Domestic permits rose by 30 per cent,
consistent with recent data released by
the Housing Industry Association that showed
residential land sales had boomed in the same period.

However, it was not all good news.
Industrial permits dropped by 26 per cent
and retail permits fell by 66 per cent.
(BECAUSE "THEY" ARE ALSO BRINGING
"THEIR" BUSINESSES to REPLACE OURS!)

vera susa
12-11-2009, 06:38 AM
Dollar shoots up
to 15-month high
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7165566,00.jpg
Dollar shoots up
to 15-month high

THE dollar shot up
almost three quarters of a cent
to a 15-month high
after the release of
positive employment figures.
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,26340135-462,00.html

So what was that about a GFC that
the rest of the world is suffering under....

vera susa
12-11-2009, 07:07 AM
YES!

Even 'The DOGS',
CAN COME HOME...

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/12/854402/sabi192-192x128.jpg
Dog of war's
year in the desert

Aussie bomb sniffer dog
Sabi rescued
after a year lost
in the Afghan desert.

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/12/853870/600-sabi9-600x400.jpg

A BRAVE young Aussie warrior
who went missing in action
during the heat of battle
has been found safe and well
after spending a year in
the Afghan desert....
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/12/853871/600-sabi11-600x400.jpg

Yes, when you Hunger and
THIRST For Justice...
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/12/853867/600-sabi7-600x400.jpg

''Sabi'', a black Australian
labrador, aged around four,
is back home now...

Sabi come home:
dog of war's
year in the desert
KATHARINE MURPHY
November 12, 2009
http://www.smh.com.au/world/sabi-come-home-dog-of-wars-year-in-the-desert-20091112-ib6z.html

vera susa
12-11-2009, 07:43 AM
:D ;)


I wonder who's gold
this really is ?

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=86392&sn=Detail

They are bringing much of their American based bars home of late, this is not a good sign

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6546.5026.0.0

Its seems to be everywhere.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90777

:D :p :) ;)

O.K., MONEY, you use it to pay for
the resources to live by...like GAS,
IRON ORE, WATER, FOOD, ;)...
...but as a Nation Australia already
HAS ALL THAT! EVERYTHING NEEDED
to be SELF RELIANT!

"What about LABOUR!" you cry?
What The VATICAN being involved
in SMUGGLING PEOPLE IN...and
DEPORTING those they don't want,
isn't a BIG ENOUGH HINT?... that
labour will never be a problem here
beyond a FAKE shortage 'they' INVENT
to 'Push another few barrows by'.

Now the ORIGINAL, 'News Behind The News'
Thread I had on The Unhived Mind site was;

"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO..."

and as we KNOW, Throughout ALL of man's History,
LOCATIONS of GLOBAL POWER CENTRES HAVE MOVED.

So what do think it MEANS WHEN 'They' ARE
MOVING 'THEIR" MONEY "HOME" TO....and
TAKING IT FROM those in an UNstable, WAR TORN
EUROPE still SEETHING with ENMITY for their
neighbours across constantly shifting borders...

...the neighbours they have to PAY for things like,
GAS to prevent them FREEZING TO DEATH, or SKILLED
Labour to MAINTAIN "SAFE" NUCLEAR POWER Plants...

~~~~~~~~~


Be afraid,
Aussie tax dodgers
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7159653,00.jpg
Be afraid,
Aussie tax dodgers

THE tax office is
hunting down
secret Swiss bank details
as it targets overseas
tax havens.


Australian Tax Office
seeking details of
secret UBS bank accounts

By Business Editor
Edmund Tadros

news.com.au

November 11, 2009 07:23am


* ATO seeking account details from UBS
* UBS has already handed over details to the US
* More difficult to hide money overseas: expert

Video:
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,26330852-462,00.html

THE tax office is using a landmark US case
to crack open details of secret Swiss bank accounts
held by wealthy Australians as it continues to
target off-shore havens.

The Australian Tax Office has requested account-holder details
from Zurich-based UBS, after the Swiss bank
handed over about 4450 client names to US authorities
in August to settle a tax case.

The revelation that UBS may hand over more client information will send clients rushing to their lawyers, said David Drummond, a tax expert from professional services firm KPMG.

He estimated that there could be at least hundreds of millions
in hidden funds in the Swiss bank.

A spokesman for Assistant Treasurer Nick Sherry would not comment
on the request but said the Government continued to take a
"zero tolerance approach" to Australians hiding money
in off-shore havens.


Days of hiding money off-shore
"long gone"


The UBS move to hand over account details is one of a number
of developments that have dealt blows to the tradition of
strict Swiss bank secrecy laws .
This tradition has seen it become the world's world's (MURDOCH'S
DOUBLE UP of "WORLD'S" ;))
largest offshore tax haven.

"This (move by the ATO) would be a real source of concern to anyone
who has taken the view that they can hide money off-shore," Mr Drummond said.

"This is highlighting to those wealthy individuals that
the days of being able to conceal money off-shore are over."

He said that there was increasing cooperation between financial institutions in countries previously considered tax havens and tax authorities around the world.

"There's been a shift in the psyche of the world in terms of
concealing wealth off-shore," he said.

He said that "hundreds of millions" could be held in the accounts,
based on extrapolating out the tax liabilities identified by the ATO
in its off-shore programs.

The ATO's two key programs targeting overseas tax havens,
Project Wickenby and the Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Initiative,
have already managed to identify almost $500 million in tax liabilities,
according to the Federal Government.

Many countries seeking account information

UBS said in a note to its third-quarter financial statement,
published last week, that tax and regulatory authorities in
a number of jurisdictions had requested information on
cross-border wealth management services
provided by UBS and other banks.

The ATO confirmed that
investigations were underway,
Swiss newspaper Sonntag
reported on Sunday,
but said it declined to
give further details.

UBS only said in its statement that the ATO had requested information
on offshore services from UBS and other Swiss and non-Swiss financial
institutions.

US clients confess tax sins

UBS caused a frenzy when it
handed over its client information
to the US tax department,
the Internal Revenue Service.

Clients had to decide if they should
take advantage of an amnesty offered
by IRS and reveal their offshore accounts
or risk prosecution.

In the end, more than 3000 people
made voluntary disclosures to the IRS.

The US investigation into how UBS helped rich Americans hide money
in Switzerland has hurt the bank's reputation and prompted offshore
customers to withdraw assets, with the bank reporting last week that
third-quarter net outflows totaled US$36 billion.

The Sonntag newspaper said that
the Swiss tax authorities would
on November 17
reveal the precise criteria
determining which UBS client data
is handed over to the US authorities.

- With Reuters

~~~~~~~~~

Now The Conspiracy INDUSTRY simply loves
to drag seekers of understanding and truth,
through MOUNTAINS of DEVILISH "Details"
about things WE HAVE NO POWER TO CHANGE
(making us 'feel' ANGRY and DOOMED and so
easier to 'STAMPEDE' Where 'They' WILL) ,
also BECAUSE while staring closely at "detail"
you can NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE.

Oh yes, I to post LOTS of details and links to
further self study, but as a way of 'Framing'
THE BIG PICTURE for people to SEE WHERE
The Story The Picture Tells, BEGINS and ENDS.

And it BEGAN LONG BEFORE there was a "ROME"
COMMISSIONING "ARTS" to PAINT OVER
The ORIGINAL Picture of, The Story of MAN & GOD.

vera susa
12-11-2009, 08:08 AM
Guru hasn't eaten for 65 years
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90644&page=13

But if I were to tell you all, how my son
Did NOT BREATH for 10 minutes
and REVIVED to NORMAL, BP, HEART, PULSE,

(before the Ambos. got there...oh, and the
TIME and DETAILS WERE RECODED as my
other son was on the phone, describing it all!),

from ANSWERED PRAYER that SAID,
"FORGET FIRST AID, THUMP HIS CHEST!"...

...Long before the medical profession 'found',
that in REAL LIFE & DEATH situations,
THAT IS WHAT TO DO...I WOULD BE ATTACKED
for MY PROVEN FAITH in THE CREATOR...

Oh that's right, I DID and I WAS!

vera susa
12-11-2009, 10:39 AM
On Australian SBS TV
10:00 P.M.TONIGHT:

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_2/LivesOfOthersMoviePoster.jpg

This is a VERY IMPORTANT movie,
of 'living' under
The EAST GERMAN STAZI, i.e.
ANYWHERE TODAY

vera susa
12-11-2009, 10:51 AM
So yesterday, Wiki gave us that
FAKE 'Jerusalem' desert, and today...

Today's featured picture
Sydney at dusk
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Sydney_skyline_at_dusk_-_Dec_2008.jpg/400px-Sydney_skyline_at_dusk_-_Dec_2008.jpg
A panorama of Sydney,
the most populous :D city in Australia
with a population of 4.4 million, :p;)
at dusk, with the Sydney Opera House on the left
and Sydney central business district on the right.

The site of the first British colony in Australia,
Sydney was established in 1788 at Sydney Cove
by Arthur Phillip, commodore of the First Fleet.

The city is built on hills surrounding Sydney Harbour—
an inlet of the Tasman Sea on Australia's southeastern coast.
Photo credit: David Iliff

(yeah, just stay the hell out of this
'over crowded, unliveable' country,:p
and keep slaughtering for
more bits of Middle Eastern desert :rolleyes:)

vera susa
12-11-2009, 08:31 PM
IT'S ABOUT TIME...
IT'S ABOUT PLACE...
IT'S ABOUT THE TRUTH...
OF THE HUMAN RACE...

Public Release: 10-Nov-2009
Trends in Genetics
Ancient penguin DNA
raises doubts about accuracy of
genetic dating techniques
Penguins that died 44,000 years ago in Antarctica
have provided extraordinary frozen DNA samples
that challenge the accuracy
of traditional genetic aging measurements,
and suggest those approaches have been
routinely underestimating the age
of many specimens by 200 to 600 percent.
National Science Foundation

Contact: Dee Denver
[email protected]
541-737-3698
Oregon State University

vera susa
12-11-2009, 09:03 PM
Public release date: 2-Nov-2009
("public" release, means
"how the hell do we NOT LET
this "break" 'Egypt time-lines'?")
Contact: Cathleen Genova
[email protected]
617-397-2802
Cell Press

New clues to the
Falklands wolf mystery

Ever since the Falklands wolf was described by Darwin himself, the origin of this now-extinct canid found only on the Falkland Islands far off the east coast of Argentina has remained a mystery. Now, researchers reporting in the November 3rd issue of Current Biology who have compared DNA from four of the world's dozen or so known Falklands wolf museum specimens to that of living canids offer new insight into the evolutionary ancestry of these enigmatic carnivores.

"One of the big draws for an evolutionary biologist is that this species had a big influence on Darwin's ideas about how species evolve," said Graham Slater of the University of California, Los Angeles, noting that Darwin recognized differences between the East Falkland and West Falkland wolves as evidence that species are not fixed entities. But the wolves' circumstances were also just downright puzzling.

"It's really strange that the only native mammal on an island would be a large canid," Slater explained. "There are no other native terrestrial mammals—not even a mouse. It's even stranger when you consider that the Falklands are some 480 kilometers from the South American mainland. The question is, how did they get there?"

Possible explanations for the wolves' presence on the islands, which have never been connected to the South American mainland, range from dispersal by ice or logs to domestication and subsequent transport by Native Americans. Ultimately, the Falklands wolf died out because it was perceived as a threat to settlers and their sheep, although fur traders took out a lot of the population as well.

Biologists have also puzzled over
the Falklands wolf's ancestry.
It had been suggested that
they were related to domestic dogs, North American coyotes, or South American foxes. Slater said the wolves were the size of a coyote, but much stockier, with fur the color of a red fox. They had short muzzles, just like gray wolves, and thick, wooly fur.

Slater's team now reports that the Falklands wolf's closest living relative is actually the maned wolf—an unusually long-legged, fox-like South American canid. The researchers also found that the four Falklands wolf samples that they examined shared a common ancestor at least 70,000 years ago, which suggests that they arrived on the islands before the end of the last ice age and before humans ever made it into the New World. That rules out the prevailing theory that Native Americans had anything to do with their presence on the islands.

"The biggest surprise was that the divergence of the Falklands wolf from its closest living relative, the maned wolf, occurred over 6 million years ago," Slater said. "Canids don't show up in the South American fossil record until 2.5 million years ago, which means these lineages must have evolved in North America. The problem is that there are no good fossils that can be assigned to the Falklands wolf lineage in North America."

Given that maned and Falklands wolves split so long ago, there should be fossils of their close relatives in South America, Slater said. And in fact, the researchers may have a candidate: a species from Patagonia called Dusicyon avus, which went extinct 6,000 to 8,000 years ago. Slater says that's a possibility that study coauthor Alan Cooper at the University of Adelaide in Australia is further investigating now.

###

The researchers include Graham J. Slater, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA; Olaf Thalmann, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA; Jennifer A. Leonard, Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden, Rena M. Schweizer, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA; Klaus-Peter Koepfli, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA, John P. Pollinger, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA, Nicolas J. Rawlence, University of Adelaide, South Australia, Australia; Jeremy J. Austin, University of Adelaide, South Australia, Australia; Alan Cooper, University of Adelaide, South Australia, Australia; and Robert K. Wayne, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA.

vera susa
12-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Ah, "THE TIMING"!

Just to let 'those who know, know',
that critter DNA/HISTORY 'anomalies'
(that are NOT anomalies),
HIDE the TRUTH of HUMAN HISTORY:

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7167870,00.jpg
A man claiming to have
bushranger Ned Kelly's
long-lost skull -
which was stolen in 1978 -
has handed it over for
forensic tests that could
finally solve one of
Australia's great mysteries
More
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26343254-421,00.html

P.S. I only went to The News,
AFTER those last two posts :D ;)

vera susa
13-11-2009, 01:33 AM
Hey, want to KNOW why I was
BETRAYED by a certain 'name'?

A certain NORTHERNER...

...a certain PRO-CATHOLIC NORTHERNER...

...'they' AGREE with The CATHOLIC PLOT,
that I WARNED OF...


Misery in Marysville -
nine months on
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7168973,00.jpg
Misery in Marysville -
nine months on

SPECIAL:
Marysville still has
no school, supermarket
or police station -
so how are they coping?
http://media.news.com.au/multimedia/2009/02/bushfires/?id=rebuilding


* Black Saturday:
Rising from ruin
http://media.news.com.au/multimedia/2009/02/bushfires/

This was
NOT a natural DISASTER,
but AN ACT OF WAR!

"Them" BLOODY NORTHERN INVADERS,
CLEARING Land OF IT'S RESIDENTS...
readying to MOVE THEMSELVES IN!

Don't believe me?

Go back and SEE how 'they' FLOOD OVER
ALL MY FOREWARNINGS,
with Barely Hidden, CODED,
MOCKING THREATS,
and absolutely NO compassion for what
CARING to share THE GOOD NEWS
has already, dearly cost me!

vera susa
13-11-2009, 06:27 AM
Right, so anyone wonder why it was
A "VIKING" that we SENT TO
THE NORTH to HAVE INVOLVED
in this INTERNATIONAL
REFUGEE/MIGRANT SCANDAL...

...when it's natural 'home' is
The ANTARCTIC SOUTH...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rudd denies doing
asylum boat deals

AAP

November 13, 2009 12:37pm

WATCH VIDEO:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26344428-421,00.html
Some asylum seekers to get off
Some asylum seekers on board Oceanic Viking
have accepted Australia's offer of
rapid resettlement.

PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd has denied the Government
has given special treatment to a group of asylum seekers
refusing to leave an Australian customs vessel moored in
Indonesian waters.

Up to 20 of the 78 Sri Lankans aboard the Oceanic Viking
have agreed to leave the ship and enter
an Indonesian detention centre after accepting an offer
to fast-track their resettlement.

"Absolutely not,'' Mr Rudd told Fairfax Radio from India today,
when asked whether they were given special treatment, adding
the processing of their asylum claims was consistent with
the approach taken elsewhere in the world.

The Prime Minister also rejected suggestions any member
of the group would automatically be resettled in Australia.

"Any assumption that any individual ...
will automatically end up in Australia is wrong,'' Mr Rudd said.

"Individuals will be sent where ... vacancies exist around the world.''

Mr Rudd said it was "dead wrong'' for anyone to think that
"rolling protest activity'', including threats of self harm,
would advance their case.

"Our border protection policy
won't be changed.''


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oceanic Viking
Hobart
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hC30sWZ-gmw/SutJT5mBP5I/AAAAAAAAICA/LtYypl08De8/s1600/FV%2520Taruman%2520escorted%2520by%2520Oceanic%252 0Viking-%2520Sept%25202005-AFMA.jpg
FV Taruman in foreground below
being escorted by Oceanic Viking
Sep 2005 AFMA

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hC30sWZ-gmw/SutJUIFCZFI/AAAAAAAAICI/lwiQy1Fh1_8/s1600/FV_Taruman_foreground_%2520OceanicViking_Sep2005_A FMA.jpg
Source of images:
Sea Shepherd Forum

Caption:
This is the Oceanic Viking
arresting illegal Patagonian toothfish
(Dissostichus eleginoides) fishermen
and excorting the ship back to Hobart.



SoutHERn ocEAn pAtRoL vESSEL -
('Their FONTS!)
Oceanic Viking


Page 1
The Australian Government
takes the protection of its sovereign
territories and assets very seriously.

Illegal, unreported and
unregulated (IUU) fishing in
the Southern Ocean
presents a
threat to Australia’s
Heard Island
and McDonald Islands (HIMI)
and Macquarie Island
exclusive economic zones (EEZ),
its
valuable Patagonian toothfish fishery
and the fragile Southern
Ocean environment.

The remoteness of the HIMI and hostile
Southern Ocean sub-Antarctic waters
makes the detection and apprehension of
vessels carrying out IUU fishing even more challenging.

Illegal activity in the Southern Ocean is being fuelled by rising
fish prices, over fishing elsewhere in the world and excess fishing
capacity in northern hemisphere fishing fieets.

There is concern
that, if left unchecked, such fishing could eventually lead to
the commercial extinction of stocks of the Patagonian toothfish.

In response to this, the Australian Government, through the
Australian Customs and Border Protection Service, the Australian
Fisheries Management Authority (AFMA) and the Australian
Defence Force, has provided surveillance and apprehension of
vessels operating illegally in this remote region. This has included
on-the-water cooperation with other countries with similar
Southern Oceaninterests, in particular France who share an
Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) boundaries with Australia.
The Southern Ocean Maritime Patrol and Response (SOMPR)
program provides a dedicated vessel, Oceanic Viking, which
is able to conduct year-round patrols in sub-Antarctic weather
conditions.
ABOUT THE OCEANIC VIKING
Oceanic Viking is
the Australian Customs and
Border Protection Service and
the Australian Fisheries Management Authority
(fisheries)
Southern Ocean patrol vessel.

The vessel is contracted from P&O
to conduct year-round patrols
as part of the Southern Ocean patrol program.

The Oceanic Viking undertakes a minimum of
200 days
in the Southern Ocean per year
and can conduct up to 300 days per year.

These patrols are part of Australia’s commitment
to intercepting vessels and apprehending people
suspected of illegally fishing
in the ecologically fragile sub-Antarctic waters.

When not operating in the Southern Ocean,
Oceanic Viking is available to patrol
Australia’s coastline.
http://tasphotos.blogspot.com/2009/10/oceanic-viking-hobart.html
~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200801/r215445_836699.jpg
Oceanic Viking ...
no whaling mointoring this season.
(ABC: James Bennett)
Posted Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:41am AEDT
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/21/2425776.htm

Yes well, you see, PATAGONIAN TOOTHFISH,
just don't draw as many GREENIE FANATICS
as 'whales'...

Whale War Update:
Australia Sends in Vikings
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/scouse99/1907Vikings.jpg
Who even knew Australia had a navy?

Turns out they do and today
they sent the good ship Oceanic Viking
to the rescue of two protesters from Sea Shepherd
who are being "held hostage" on board a Japanese whale ship.

CNN--Australia has sent a customs ship to retrieve two activists
who were seized by a Japanese whaling vessel, the country's foreign minister said. The transfer, if successful,
would end a tense two-day standoff in Antarctic waters.

The Australian ship, the Oceanic Viking,
was within sighting distance of the Japanese whaler Thursday.

So that just leaves us with one question: What Now?

Japans whaling fleet is on target to harvest 1000 whales this year,
thus far they have only taken an estimated 300. Regardless of this
"hostage drama" side event which has all the earmarks of a classic
"don't taze me bro" moment, the question remains, how to stop
another 700 whales from being slaughtered this year?
http://sharkdivers.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This is the sort of
MEANINGFUL CODED 'NEWS' that
I TRIED to SHOW folk HOW to "READ",
that was first FLOODED OVER, before
I WAS BETRAYED, THREATENED, ROBBED
and PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED,
And WORSE for
STANDING BY THE TRUTH!

vera susa
13-11-2009, 06:55 AM
oh, and REMEMBER that
The DUTCH ROYALS ARE
CHINESE (HUN) BLOOD:eek: ;)

ANOTHER reason "they" DON'T want
readers focusing on the 'purpose' of
inventing a VERY Short, FALSE 'Time-line'
of Human History on ALL The EARTH...

Bugger that GOD WARNED us
FROM THE BEGINNING, 'They'
only don't want you KNOWING
WHO THE ENEMY REALLY ARE
NOW!

vera susa
13-11-2009, 07:00 AM
Think it's a coincidence that
this image;

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/scouse99/1907Vikings.jpg
comes with THIS title:

See more indonesia oceanic viking pictures
+
Follow
http://media.photobucket.com/image/indonesia%20oceanic%20viking/scouse99/1907Vikings.jpg

vera susa
13-11-2009, 07:20 AM
Remember I posted about
my UKRAINIAN mother's
first husband, a UKRAINIAN
have BLACK BROTHERS,
that BLACK People were
NOT uncommon in that area...

http://www.garwood-voigt.com/catalogues/H25612TartariaBlaeu.jpg

http://www.budsbigadventure.com/USERIMAGES/Mongolia%20map(2).jpg

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/commonwealth/commonwealth.jpg

http://www.bikeabout.co.uk/images/map.gif

Lou Jing
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858099/loujing300-300x368.jpg
Reality show sparks
racism debate in China

When Lou Jing competed to be
China's next reality TV pop star,
her black skin,
not her voice,
caused a stir.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/oriental-angel-triggers-china-race-row-20091113-ie3f.html?autostart=1

vera susa
13-11-2009, 08:50 AM
Where did CAMELS COME FROM?

LIKE HORSES AND DOGS>>>:cool:

AMERICA! :D

QI:

from 2:44 minutes;
but again, the whole episode,
SAYS A LOT ;)...

[SIZE="6"]like,
WOODPECKER PROVE
THE CREATOR EXISTS:):

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

vera susa
13-11-2009, 03:00 PM
November 14, 2009

Breaking News

* 12:33am

USA is a Pacific nation,
says Obama

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26348424-23109,00.html

vera susa
13-11-2009, 09:06 PM
This is from the SYDNEY paper,
Sydney, were they had 'those riots'
after more than 20 years of
The Government giving 'em run of the joint',
and now it's time to say;

Not having a go at you mate,
but you can leave your bloody cult-chas
in the fucked-up countries you came from. :cool: ;) :)



http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/859117/birrell-300x368.jpg
Birrell
Australian a prisoner of gender apartheid

An Australian is trapped with her children
in Saudi Arabia while her husband languishes
in jail.

The Australian who has become
a prisoner of gender apartheid
November 14, 2009
Jennifer Birrell
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858768/jenniferbirrell-420x0.jpg
Nightmare ... Jennifer Birrell, above
with three of her children,
has appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah,
top left, for help in getting an exit visa.
Inset, her jailed husband, Mohammed Nagi.
Photo: Harry Afentoglou

An Australian is trapped with her children
in Saudi Arabia
while her husband languishes in jail,
both victims of a campaign by her former husband.
Rick Feneley and Tim Elliott report.

At first glance Jennifer Birrell is a free woman
living a privileged life in the Saudi capital, Riyadh.

"It's a weird prison," she concedes. "A big house with a pool
and a nice new car, all behind massive concrete walls
that no one can see inside of. That's the prison.
So I live here with my maid and my kids and my driver."

But here the 33-year-old Muslim convert is trapped,
unable to obtain an exit visa to return to Australia,
and with no right to visit her husband,
Mohammed Ahmed Nagi, in jail. Also 33,
he has been held in the Malaz prison for more than 15 months.
He has another 21 months to serve.
He has endured 200 lashes, 50 at a time,
and will be subjected to 100 more.

Why?

The couple's hellish predicament –
detailed in Birrell's pleading letter to the Saudi king –
rests on several flimsy pieces of paper,
all wielded by her abusive former husband.
This is the Yemeni man she married in Australia in 1998
and who fathered three of her children,
all Australian citizens.
They moved to Saudi Arabia in 2004,
but she fled from him two years and three months ago,
fearing for her life, after he allegedly threatened to kill her
and bashed her three times with a candle stick,
caving in her forehead.

Among his pieces of paper was an old mobile phone bill.
He had her account redirected to him while they were separated,
and he took the bill to police in July last year,
five months after he granted her a divorce in court.

By now Birrell's colleague Mohammed Nagi
had offered to become her guardian, or mahram.
In accordance with Muslim custom,
he had asked her father's permission and they married
in June last year, in accordance with Sharia law,
at the Egyptian embassy in Riyadh.
Their marriage certificate was legalised in
the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and
the Saudi Ministry of Justice.
After all, the law in the kingdom
requires a woman have a male guardian.

But that phone bill? It showed that Birrell,
after separating from her former husband,
called Nagi almost daily for two months.
That is not surprising, she says.
She had been the director of English at Al-Yamamah University,
where she managed more than 50 English teachers from around
the western world. Nagi was her finance manager.
She needed to consult him often in day-to-day business.
The calls rarely lasted more than two minutes, she says.

Nevertheless, the phone bill –
without the details of a single conversation –
was enough to convince a judge that Nagi was guilty of takbeeb,
"destruction of the family".
Nagi's lawyer was forbidden from giving evidence, Birrell says.
She was not allowed to testify about the abuse she suffered
in her previous marriage.

"This issue could easily be settled
if the judge from the criminal court
would speak to the judge in the family court,
where my ex-husband confessed to his abuse with no shame,
as though it was his right," Birrell said.

In August last year, nearly two months after his wedding,
Nagi was sentenced to three years' jail and the 300 lashes,
essentially for being a home wrecker.
"With no proof – only my ex-husband's malicious false claim," Birrell says.

Her former husband retains another critical piece of paper.
In March last year, the month after their formal divorce,
he illegally renewed on his residence permit his sponsorship of her –
falsely stating they were still married.
He held the passports of Birrell and her eldest daughter, now 11.

The family court judge ordered in February last year
that the former husband transfer this sponsorship to her employer.
He did not comply and the judge subsequently ordered him
to transfer her sponsorship within 10 days or risk going to jail.
The former husband ignored that order too,
and no action has been taken against him.

The Australian embassy wrote to the former husband in April last year, demanding that he return his former wife's passport.
That request, too, has been ignored.

Birrell got a new passport,
but cannot get a visa to leave Saudi Arabia
without the approval of the man who,
on paper, is still her nominated sponsor – her former husband.
The embassy has been unable to advance her case.

She also begged for protection from the Governor of Riyadh,
who she says asked police to arrest her former husband
over his failure to transfer her sponsorship –
but again nothing happened.
And she has taken her appeal to the highest authority, seeking the mercy, help and protection of King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud. She is hopeful of a response.

However, worried that her options are running out, Birrell has agreed – with reservations – to speak out about her ordeal. "I know perhaps I'm seen as a silly blonde who married a Bedouin," she told the Herald.

Birrell has been a senior manager at three universities in Saudi Arabia. She is no silly blonde. Her troubled journey to Saudi Arabia began, in some ways, 14 years ago in Adelaide, where she was raised. Then 19, she married a fellow pentecostal Christian. He was soon diagnosed with a rare cancer and – seven months after their wedding – he died of a surgical complication. "It made me weaker in my faith, made me question stuff."

She began reading about the prophet Muhammad. At 21, while area manager for the Bank of South Australia, she turned up at the Adelaide Mosque. She converted six months later. After a brief, failed second marriage, from which she had her first child, her Imam and "other good Muslims I trusted" recommended her the man who would become her next husband.

"I had only met him three times, and there was zero attraction," she said. But she was impressed with his knowledge of Islam. While a Yemeni national, he carried a Saudi passport and came from Saudi Arabia – "the heartland of Islam, the 'Kingdom of Humanity' ".

"I was naive. I do blame myself. But I wanted a good man – a good Muslim according to the Islam I had read and learned about."

In 2004, six years after marrying, they moved to Saudi Arabia. "Being close to Mecca was wonderful," she says. "It clouds your eyes to all the rest that is going on around you."

But it was here that her husband became abusive and severely beat her, she tells the king in her letter. Birrell fled their Riyadh home in August 2007 and took refuge with a Saudi prince and his wife, whose children she had been tutoring in English. She says she dared to return to the family home on September 12 that year, only after her husband promised he would be gone.

She writes to the king: "On entering my home he was waiting – he screamed, 'I will kill you, I will kill you' and bludgeoned me over the head three times with a candle-stick holder, my head was caved in and full of blood."

Police arrested him. However, at Sahafa police station, officers suggested she bargain with him. Police asked if she wanted money, but that did not interest a woman who had been the family bread winner while the former husband refused to work.

"I requested a divorce and a restraining order against him, as I feared he would try to kill me."

She added: "He verbally divorced me in accordance with Islamic Sharia in the presence of two male witnesses."

Police had refused her copies of his signed confession and bargain agreement. Australian embassy requests were similarly declined.

In court on February 2 last year he divorced her a second time. But he would subsequently call her at work, threatening to kill her. He followed her home from work. One night, she says, he rammed his car into the door of her car. In a cafe he assaulted a family member visiting from Australia.

Birrell won custody of their youngest son, 4. Her former husband was granted custody of their other two children, 6 and 8. The children spend time with both parents.

She says her former husband lodged another complaint against her – for supposedly "lewd conduct" – for appearing before a neighbour's 19-year-old son without a face veil when he was helping her removalist. "He asked the children and they said I did not have my face covered," she says. "There is no law that says a woman must have her face covered, but a husband has these powers – the right to complain about his wife's actions – for a year after the divorce."

While she does not cover her face, Birrell chooses to wear the black hijab. She prefers modesty in a country where strangers commonly declare their love and propose marriage. "Even when I went to Saudi Human Rights to seek help, the man there suggested I divorce my current husband and marry him."

She is told her former husband dropped the face veil case. But his hold over her continues.

If she could, she would take her eldest daughter back to Australia. All her children have Australian passports, but she has no visas for the other children. Nevertheless, she could then travel between the countries while she fought for the release of her husband, the Egyptian-born Nagi – "the only man who was there to help me".

Egypt's Foreign Ministry has told Nagi's father the evidence against him includes a signed confession. In court, Nagi swore on the Koran he made
no such confession and that the paper was a fake.

Birrell's former husband
has not responded to the Herald's
detailed questions.
Nor has the Saudi embassy in Canberra.
Neither the Australian embassy in Riyadh
nor the Foreign Affairs department
in Canberra would comment, citing privacy.

Even if we do not have the full story,
the question remains:

what nation has a right
to treat a woman this way?
In Saudi Arabia, that "right" rests on
an entrenched system of sexual apartheid.
Despite Saudi claims of reform,
women continue to be treated
not even as second-class citizens
but as a lower species.

In the meantime, Birrell has her big house, her children, her maid and her driver.

"And I have a great job, but it's still a daily struggle to survive under such oppression."

Despite her appeals, she cannot visit her husband in jail. She admits to making bad choices.

She blames her "trusting Aussie nature" for
always hoping to see the best in people.
She repeats her "silly blonde" line.

"But I'm still a human, an Australian
and perhaps a classic case of warning
for all the future silly blondes
contemplating the same."

vera susa
13-11-2009, 09:32 PM
...from the same SYDNEY paper...

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858752/kevin-rudd-172x115.jpg
Shape-shifter:
Just when we think
we're getting to know PM.

A shape-shifter in the Lodge
November 14, 2009

Rudd
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858761/1411-ruddillo-420x0.jpg
Illustration: Harry Afentoglou

Just when we think we're getting to know Kevin Rudd,
he goes and changes again, writes Annabel Crabb.

The Wharf Revue,
playing at the Sydney Theatre Company,
depicts Kevin Rudd as Harry Potter -
an earnest, nerdy boy-wizard
with a delicately placed scar and
a weakness for phantasmal buzz-words.
The visuals are perfect.
story:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/a-shapeshifter-in-the-lodge-20091113-iem9.html

vera susa
13-11-2009, 10:10 PM
...from the same SYDNEY paper...

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858752/kevin-rudd-172x115.jpg
Shape-shifter:
Just when we think
we're getting to know PM.

A shape-shifter in the Lodge
November 14, 2009

Rudd
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858761/1411-ruddillo-420x0.jpg
Illustration: Harry Afentoglou

Just when we think we're getting to know Kevin Rudd,
he goes and changes again, writes Annabel Crabb.

The Wharf Revue,
playing at the Sydney Theatre Company,
depicts Kevin Rudd as Harry Potter -
an earnest, nerdy boy-wizard
with a delicately placed scar and
a weakness for phantasmal buzz-words.
The visuals are perfect.
story:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/a-shapeshifter-in-the-lodge-20091113-iem9.html

WIKIPEDIA

Today's featured article
"I Don't Remember"

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Powderfinger in 2007


"I Don't Remember"
http://www.getmusic.com.au/images/local/300/c8091201-7b08-48fe-82d8-d68fadb916b0.jpg
is a song by Australian alternative rock band Powderfinger,
from the album
Dream Days at the Hotel Existence.

It made its radio debut on 9 July 2007 on Australian radio stations,
and was subsequently released as a single
and digital download on 4 August 2007 in Australia,
3 September 2007 in New Zealand,
and 13 August 2007 in the United States.

The song was written by Powderfinger lead singer Bernard Fanning,
and influenced by bassist John Collins.
The riff was then developed by guitarist Ian Haug.

The song is about reconciling difficulties and arguments,
rather than shifting the blame.
"I Don't Remember"
was lauded by some reviewers,
who appreciated its energy, while other reviewers were more critical, dubbing it an "advertisement song".
The music video also received critical acclaim,
especially for the parodies it contained.
Despite the reviews, the single charted poorly, reaching number 42
on the ARIA Singles Chart.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Powderfinger_performing_September_2007_%28b%29.jpg
Powderfinger performing September 2007 (b).jpg
An photograph of Australian rock band Powderfinger performing
"These Days" at a 2007 tour, at Sydney's ACER arena,
on September 8, 2007.
:confused:
(more...)
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Powderfinger performing
"I Don't Remember" on
the Across the Great Divide tour.[/COLOR]



Powderfinger I Don't Remember
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://www.myspace.com/powderfinger

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I Don't Remember

Tonight my heart well it broke like glass
I made a mistake that i'll never surpass
I'm floating in space unattached to the world
I cast off the memory of the spell of that girl
Whatever I get I guess its what I deserve

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

I smashed the mirror just to look whats behind
Picked through the pieces just to see what i'd find
I found my heart and it broke like glass
I made that mistake that i'll never surpass
I let go of my grip on the past

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

Hey, hey don't you look away
Hey, hey I've got something to say

vera susa
13-11-2009, 11:03 PM
Did my fun little,
"Wiki, Wiki, on the wall.."
after straying on to the
DALMATIAN PELICAN...
From:

Today's featured picture
Great White Pelican
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Whitepelican_edit_shadowlift.jpg/250px-Whitepelican_edit_shadowlift.jpg
The Great White Pelican (Pelecanus onocrotalus)
is a large pelican species found
from southeastern Europe through Asia and in Africa.
At a mass of 10 kg (22 lb), 160 cm (63 in) long and
with a 280 cm (110 in) wingspan,
it is second in size only to the Dalmatian Pelican.
Photo credit: Dakoman

Then, clicking on,
"RANDOM" ARTICLE,
First I get...


Bruce Duperouzel
(born 21 April 1950 in Northam)
is a former Australian rules footballer
who played with St Kilda
and Footscray in the VFL.

Duperouzel started his career at
WANFL club Claremont,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Claremontfc.jpg
Claremont Football Club - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
playing 86 games in his five seasons
and winning their 1971 Fairest and best award.

While in Western Australia
he represented his state
in five first-class cricket matches.

The rover joined St Kilda in 1974
and finished the year as their leading goalkicker with 28 goals.
He was their top vote getter in the 1980 Brownlow Medal
and in the same year earned All-Australian selection
while representing Western Australia
at the Adelaide State of Origin Carnival,
one of six times that he would play for them.

For the second half of the 1981 season and all of 1982,
Duperouzel
was the Saint's captain.

He crossed to Footscray in 1983
where he played a further two VFL seasons.

Bruce Duperouzel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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=========


Bruce Duperouzel
Australia

Full name Bruce Duperouzel

Born April 21, 1950,
Northam, Western Australia

Current age 59 years 206 days

Major teams Western Australia

Batting style Right-hand bat
http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/5004.html

================


Cottesloe
Perth, Western Australia
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View of
Cottesloe Beach in summer 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Cottesloe
The Town of Cottesloe is a Local Government Area
in the western suburbs of the
Western Australian capital city of Perth,
located 11 kilometres (7 mi)
west of Perth's central business district.

The Town covers an area of 3.9 square kilometres (1.5 sq mi),
maintains 45.7 km of roads
and has a population of 7,256 (2006).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/TownOfCottesloe.gif
The suburb of Cottesloe is the only suburb
within this local government area,
but four short streets with the suburb of
Claremont
fall under its jurisdiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont,_Western_Australia

Claremont
Perth,
Western Australia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/ChristChurchClaremontWA_gobeirne.jpg/270px-ChristChurchClaremontWA_gobeirne.jpg
Christ Church,
Claremont.
Built 1892.

Christ Church Grammar School
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/CCGS_Crest.png
Latin: Deus Dux Doctrina Lux
("God is our leader,
learning is our light")

Notable alumni

* Robin Bell - 2005 West Australian ANZ
Sports Star of the Year for canoeing,
2008 olympic bronze medallist
* Andrew Browne - AFL Footballer (Fremantle Dockers)
* Matthew Boyce - Australian Junior Field Hockey Player
* Matt Burston - NBL Basketballer (Perth Wildcats and South Dragons)
* Hal Gibson Pateshall Colebatch - Author
* Ric Charlesworth - Australian Field Hockey Player
(1986 World Champion and Player of the Tournament,
1976 Olympic Silver Medallist),
Coach (1996, 2000 Olympic Gold Medallist);
WA Cricketer
* Jaxon Crabb - Sandover Medalist 2005 and Captain of Claremont Tigers
* Rod Eddington - former CEO of
Cathay Pacific, Ansett Australia and British Airways
* Tony Evans - AFL Footballer (West Coast Eagles)
Premiership Player '92 and '94 and member of Team 20
* Bill Kirby - Gold medallist and world record holder
in the 4x200m freestyle relay at the 2000 Summer Olympics
* Peter Leedman -
Renowned Genetic Researcher,
and member of
the Christ Church school council.
* Chris Lewis - AFL Footballer (West Coast Eagles).
Premiership Player 1992 and 1994 and member of Team 20
* Eric Mackenzie - AFL Player (West Coast Eagles)
* David McComb - singer, Songwriter (The Triffids)
* Stuart MacGill - Australian Cricketer
* Wayne Martin -
Chief Justice of
Western Australia
since 2006
* Tim Minchin -
comedian, actor,
composer, songwriter
* Luke McPharlin - AFL Footballer (Fremantle Dockers)
* Nick O'Halloran - Australian Water Polo Team
* Ryan Turnbull - AFL Footballer (West Coast Eagles)
Premiership Player 1994 and Sandover Medalist 2001
* Scott Webster - Australian Field Hockey Player
(2002 World Championships Silver Medallist,
1997 Under 21 World Champion)
* Jamie Brooksby - 2006 Big Brother winner
* Tom Swift (Australian footballer) -
AFL Footballer (West Coast Eagles)
Christ Church Grammar School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

vera susa
14-11-2009, 12:09 AM
:D 'Lots of love,
despite attempted murder'
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7172214,00.jpg
'Lots of love,
despite attempted murder'

A WOMAN who poisoned three men's puddings
left notes apologising for trying to kill them.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2729086/Stripper-laced-lovers-dessert.html#ixzz0WmKsdpwv

vera susa
14-11-2009, 12:14 AM
World Breaking News
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French navy storms pirate ship, arrests 12

Agence France-Presse

November 14, 2009 01:26am

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FRENCH commandos have stormed aboard a Somali pirate "mothership" and arrested 12 gunmen, the military announced, adding that the gangs are increasingly operating in the deep waters of the Indian Ocean.
Tipped off by spotters on a Luxembourg maritime reconnaissance plane, the French frigate Floreal intercepted a dhow towing two motorised skiffs 500 nautical miles northwest of the Seychelles on Thursday.

A helicopter from the warship fired a warning shot across the vessel's bows as its crew began to throw incriminating material over the side. French troops boarded the ship and arrested the pirates without violence.

On board they found grappling hooks, GPS navigation devices and assault rifles, French military spokesman Admiral Christophe Prazuck told AFP in Paris.

"Last year or at the start of this one the centre of gravity was in the Gulf of Aden," Mr Prazuck said, referring to the straits between Arabia and the Horn of Africa that have become notorious for pirate attacks.

"The European team in place has significantly reduced the number of boats taken hostage. Though they still threaten the Gulf of Aden, the pirates have switched their activity further offshore into the Indian Ocean."
Related Coverage

* Pirates in second long-range attackNEWS.com.au, 11 Nov 2009
* Pirates seize container ship in oceanNEWS.com.au, 15 Oct 2009
* Pirates attack warship in errorThe Australian, 8 Oct 2009
* 74 Aussies aboard Somali pirate raidThe Australian, 27 Apr 2009
* French warship captures 11 piratesNEWS.com.au, 16 Apr 2009

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Mr Prazuck said pirates were now striking in areas up to 800 nautical miles from their bases on the coast of Somalia, a lawless and largely ungoverned African state plagued by faction-fighting.

Several naval task forces now carry out anti-piracy patrols, including flotillas commanded by the European Union, NATO and the United States. Floreal is fighting under EU colours as part of Operation Atalante.

vera susa
14-11-2009, 12:47 AM
WIKIPEDIA

Today's featured article
"I Don't Remember"

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Powderfinger in 2007


"I Don't Remember"
http://www.getmusic.com.au/images/local/300/c8091201-7b08-48fe-82d8-d68fadb916b0.jpg
is a song by Australian alternative rock band Powderfinger,
from the album
Dream Days at the Hotel Existence.

It made its radio debut on 9 July 2007 on Australian radio stations,
and was subsequently released as a single
and digital download on 4 August 2007 in Australia,
3 September 2007 in New Zealand,
and 13 August 2007 in the United States.

The song was written by Powderfinger lead singer Bernard Fanning,
and influenced by bassist John Collins.
The riff was then developed by guitarist Ian Haug.

The song is about reconciling difficulties and arguments,
rather than shifting the blame.
"I Don't Remember"
was lauded by some reviewers,
who appreciated its energy, while other reviewers were more critical, dubbing it an "advertisement song".
The music video also received critical acclaim,
especially for the parodies it contained.
Despite the reviews, the single charted poorly, reaching number 42
on the ARIA Singles Chart.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Powderfinger_performing_September_2007_%28b%29.jpg
Powderfinger performing September 2007 (b).jpg
An photograph of Australian rock band Powderfinger performing
"These Days" at a 2007 tour, at Sydney's ACER arena,
on September 8, 2007.
:confused:
(more...)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Powderfinger_performing_September_2007_%28c%29.jpg
Powderfinger performing
"I Don't Remember" on
the Across the Great Divide tour.[/COLOR]



Powderfinger I Don't Remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc32FbOF-S4

http://www.myspace.com/powderfinger

http://image.lyricspond.com/image/p/artist-powderfinger/album-dream-days-at-the-hotel-existence/cd-cover.jpg

I Don't Remember

Tonight my heart well it broke like glass
I made a mistake that i'll never surpass
I'm floating in space unattached to the world
I cast off the memory of the spell of that girl
Whatever I get I guess its what I deserve

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

I smashed the mirror just to look whats behind
Picked through the pieces just to see what i'd find
I found my heart and it broke like glass
I made that mistake that i'll never surpass
I let go of my grip on the past

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

Hey, hey don't you look away
Hey, hey I've got something to say

From Today's MELBOURNE AGE
(Fairfax), On Line News Front Page:



Powderfinger

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play song:.
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Exclusive
Powderfinger reveal
tracks from
their new album.
Golden Rule realeased
November 13th 2009
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Golden Rule -


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vera susa
14-11-2009, 12:48 AM
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vera susa
14-11-2009, 01:24 AM
It's no accident
Australia
has avoided a severe recession
this time around
November 14, 2009

THE mild recession we've experienced bears no comparison with
the much-mentioned Great Depression.
But the difference is more the result of hard lessons learnt
than better luck.

This week David Gruen of Treasury gave a lecture
about what economists have learnt from the Depression.

In Australia, the lead-ups to the two crises were quite different.

In the present episode, we'd experienced 17 years of uninterrupted growth, falling unemployment and, in the past five years, booming export prices, leading to hugely improved terms of trade. By contrast, in the lead-up to the Depression we experienced no real growth for five years, with the unemployment rate rising to 7 per cent. After the Depression began, real GDP fell by almost 10 per cent in 1930-31. The unemployment rate peaked at just under 20 per cent in 1930.

This time, the economy hasn't contracted and is forecast to grow reasonably strongly next year.

Gruen says the Depression in Australia had three main causes. First, the extremely unfavourable conditions in the world economy, particularly a large and prolonged deterioration in our terms of trade caused by a fall in the price of wool. This deterioration started in the mid-1920s, well before the Depression began.

By contrast, the deterioration in the terms of trade this time has been much smaller, with the latest level still more than 50 per cent above the average of the 1990s.

The second cause of our Depression was our adherence to the ''gold standard''. The value of the Australian pound was fixed to a certain amount of gold and anyone could demand that their pound note be exchanged for gold.

Without the gold standard, countries have ''fiat money'', where the value of a $5 note comes simply from the issuing government's command that it be accepted as legal tender in payment of five dollars of debt.

For a long time people disapproved of fiat money, fearing that governments could erode the value of money by permitting inflation or by deciding to devalue their currency against other countries' currencies.

Trouble is, a country that suffers a major fall in the value of its exports needs to respond by devaluing its currency. So sticking with the gold standard ensured the avoidance of inflation, but did so by crunching the economy.

Despite pressure from our deteriorating balance of payments to devalue our currency, we held the line until March 1931, when we left the gold standard and devalued by 25 per cent against the British pound. By then, however, our foreign exchange reserves were run down.

Subsequent research has shown that the sooner a country left the gold standard, the sooner it recovered from the Depression. Big Mistake No. 1.

By contrast, in the present crisis our dollar was floating. It acted as a shock absorber for our economy, first by depreciating by 25 per cent in the four months to November last year, then by recovering almost as rapidly.

The third cause of our Depression was our inability to borrow abroad from early 1929. Australian governments had borrowed heavily from the London capital market during the 1920s, rapidly increasing our foreign debt.

London banks pressed Australian governments for repayments. Our banks restricted their loans to businesses, which put pressure on the economy.

By contrast, although the latest crisis would have shut our banks out of world capital markets, our Government guaranteed the banks' overseas borrowings, for a fee.

Turning to monetary (interest-rate) policy, it was ''tragically tight'' in the run-up to the Depression because of the defence of the gold standard, and even after the devaluation the banks delayed cutting interest rates for two years. Big Mistake No. 2. By contrast, this time the official interest rate was slashed, even while our exchange rate was depreciating rapidly. That we got away with this without adverse reaction from the market is a testament to the credibility of the inflation-targeting framework we installed in the early 1990s.

Turning to fiscal (budgetary) policy, the low level of foreign exchange reserves caused by the delay in devaluing the pound prevented fiscal policy from being used to stimulate activity and actually forced governments to curtain their spending.

Then, under the Premiers' Plan of 1931, government spending was cut by 20 per cent and federal and state taxes were increased. So fiscal policy was managed in a way that made the economy worse rather than better. Big Mistake No. 3.

By contrast, this time the Federal Government's financial position was strong and it quickly lashed out with big stimulus spending.

You can conclude that this time we were lucky to have the economy in good shape when the crisis struck. But we weren't in better shape by accident. Economists have been studying the mistakes of the Depression for decades and have been taking steps for just as long to ensure they aren't repeated.

One lesson was to steer clear of the gold standard
and (later) to move to floating exchange rates.

Another was that fiscal and monetary policies
should be used to stimulate private demand during downturns,
but also (and more recently) that they
should be ''reloaded'' during the good times
to be ready for the next recession.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/its-no-accident-australia-has-avoided-a-severe-recession-this-time-around-20091113-ieu0.html

vera susa
14-11-2009, 02:13 AM
:DInstant Answer Tarot:D


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YOUR ANSWER: NO

Do not go against your personal beliefs and morals
for anyone or anything,
no matter how much power
it or they seems to command.

You inherently know what right and wrong is
and do not need others
to enforce their personal beliefs on you.

Stick with what you know in your heart
and you will never go wrong :D :) ;) :)

vera susa
14-11-2009, 02:30 AM
WAITING FOR MY REAL LIFE TO BEGIN

Album : "Going Somewhere"

(written by: Colin Hay / Thom Mooney)

Colin Hay


WAITING FOR MY REAL LIFE TO BEGIN

Any minute now my ship is coming in
I'll keep checking the horizon
And I'll stand on the bow
And feel the waves come crashing
Come crashing down, down, down on me

And you said,"Be still, my love
Open up your heart
Let the light shine in"
Don't you understand?
I already have a plan
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

When I awoke today suddenly nothing happened
But in my dreams I slew the dragon
And down this beaten path
And up this cobbled lane
I'm walking in my own footsteps once again

And you say,"Just be here now
Forget about the past
Your mask is wearing thin"
Let me throw one more dice
I know that I can win
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

Any minute now my ship is coming in
I'll keep checking the horizon
And I'll check my machine
There's sure to be that call
It's gonna happen soon, soon, oh so very soon
It's just that times are lean

And you say,"Be still, my love
Open up your heart
Let the light shine in"
Don't you understand?
I already have a plan
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

Hey heyeyeyeyey
Hey yeeeeeee
Hey heyeyeyeyey
Eeh eeh eeh eeh eh x5

On a clear day
I can see, see for a long way

On a clear day
I can see, see a very long way

Waiting for my real life to begin
- Colin Hay
Waiting for my real life to begin - Colin Hay - YouTube

vera susa
14-11-2009, 02:42 AM
WAITING FOR MY REAL LIFE TO BEGIN

Album : "Going Somewhere"

(written by: Colin Hay / Thom Mooney)

Colin Hay


WAITING FOR MY REAL LIFE TO BEGIN

Any minute now my ship is coming in
I'll keep checking the horizon
And I'll stand on the bow
And feel the waves come crashing
Come crashing down, down, down on me

And you said,"Be still, my love
Open up your heart
Let the light shine in"
Don't you understand?
I already have a plan
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

When I awoke today suddenly nothing happened
But in my dreams I slew the dragon
And down this beaten path
And up this cobbled lane
I'm walking in my own footsteps once again

And you say,"Just be here now
Forget about the past
Your mask is wearing thin"
Let me throw one more dice
I know that I can win
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

Any minute now my ship is coming in
I'll keep checking the horizon
And I'll check my machine
There's sure to be that call
It's gonna happen soon, soon, oh so very soon
It's just that times are lean

And you say,"Be still, my love
Open up your heart
Let the light shine in"
Don't you understand?
I already have a plan
I'm waiting for my real life to begin

Hey heyeyeyeyey
Hey yeeeeeee
Hey heyeyeyeyey
Eeh eeh eeh eeh eh x5

On a clear day
I can see, see for a long way

On a clear day
I can see, see a very long way

Waiting for my real life to begin
- Colin Hay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4tcRlHY-3Q&feature=related

Hay sang Kookaburra
in live Down Under
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7113201,00.jpg
Hay acknowledged he has benefited
from royalties from Down Under.
MEN At Work lead singer Colin Hay
has admitted singing the words
to the children's folk song Kookaburra
during live performances of
the band's anthem
Down Under. [/COLOR][/I][/B]
Adelaide Now (Entertainment) - 1:15 p.m.
Thursday 29th October 2009 EST
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"Are You Lookin' at Me?"
Colin Hay

Colin Hay "Are You Lookin&#39; at Me?" Video - YouTube

Well I loved the Lone Ranger an' ah loved that Dennis Law
Him an' George Best, sure knew how tae kick a ba'
I wanted tae be a cowboy, an' learn tae crack a whip
Tae stand up in that lonely street, two six guns on ma hip

Along the mighty Beatles came, an' everyone went ahhh
They could play and sing and everything, and of course that John could draw
Well that wis it fur me, ah never once looked back
Ah'd tricks tae learn, waves tae catch, had a plan of attack

"Are you lookin' at me?"
I said "Are you lookin' at me, pal?"

Then we headed south, where the surf came crashin' in
From black an white tae colour, from innocence tae sin
It was summer in December, blowing heatwaves in ma mind
People talkin' funny, some cruel an' some were kind

From the crackle of the cane, to the frown of a big black snake
From the breakers at Bondi, down to Wallaga Lake
From the sound of a million fly screen doors, closing on the past
Like that chimney the fires couldn't burn, I was built to last

"Are you lookin' at me?"
I said "Are you lookin' at me, pal?"

When I flew across the ocean, ah wis number 1
People gave me everything, an' ah didn't need a gun
Walkin' down that avenue, I never felt so alive
People callin' out ma' name, an' ah'd only just arrived

There wis a tight rope walkin' bagpiper, in the middle of Central Park
Steam wis risin' from the ground, an' ah wore my cape out after dark
I had myself a moment, my day out in the sun
It's an unfinished story, but it's more than just begun

An' ah know more than one thing, but not more than two or three
An ah'll tell ye if you'll listen, an' ah'll tell ye for free
It's no life being a cowboy, an' eatin' aw them beans
The coffee's cold, the herd is gone, an' aw ye've got's yer dreams
You can always put yer spurs back on, but save them fur Halloween
Ye're better off heading north, or somewhere ye've never been

"Are you lookin' at me?"
I said "Are you lookin' at me, pal?"

vera susa
14-11-2009, 03:01 AM
Psalms are songs...

The Promise

- Tracy Chapman
The Promise - Tracy Chapman - YouTube

vera susa
14-11-2009, 03:09 AM
Psalms are songs...



I Am Yours
(If You Are Mine)

I Am Yours (If You Are Mine) - YouTube



:)

vera susa
14-11-2009, 03:23 AM
:)

THE DEAD SALESMEN DUO -
Anchor and Hope
on UBlive

THE DEAD SALESMEN DUO - Anchor and Hope on UBlive - YouTube

vera susa
14-11-2009, 06:39 AM
Justin Haywood...
remember him at 17,
first pub gig,
back of the 'stage',
back to the punters...

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/47/l_44b07b798ed7b4a1dcb5f09a49c81af5.jpg

Search Light
http://www.myspace.com/thedeadsalesmen

and the depth of his music
still blows me away...and of course,
the best isn't on line...

but anyway, yet more local,
Ballarat GOLD: :)

The DEAD SALESMEN DUO -

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200909/r443574_2145080.jpg
A ten year hiatus
and a comeback gig to remember:
the Dead Salesmen,
play in Ballarat on Grand Final night 2009
(ABC Ballarat: Jarrod Watt)

Hangtown

on UBlive
The DEAD SALESMEN DUO - Hangtown on UBlive - YouTube

The Dead Salesmen
1988-

Member Name Instrument played
Justin Hayward Vocals
Justin Charleson Acoustic/Electric Guitar
Patrick Bath Bass,Vocals 91-
Lenny Hyatt Drums 91-
Adam Simmons Tenor/Sopr Sax (guest)
Terry Cole Violin (guest)

Band Information:
Started as an acoustic duo in 1988 at
The Banana Arcade,
soon after, adding bass and drums.

Have developed an endearing cult audience
from as far away as Nth Qld, UK and US.

The bands' emotional intensity derives from
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the heart-felt lyrics of Hayward.

One of Ballarat's
most popular electric/acoustic acts,
and quite diverse in format.

Discography: Title Format Year Comments


'The Dead Salesmen' 14 tr Cass EP Banana 1991 Recorded by Lyndon Kriss in Ballarat

'Jealousy' 12 tr CD LP Banana 1992 Recorded by Lyndon Kriss in Ballarat

'Fallacy' 4 tr Cass EP Ind 1994 Recorded by Lyndon Kriss in Ballarat

'The Dead Salesmen/
Jealousy' DoubleCD
Way Over There 1995 Double CD re-release of both albums.

'Bluestoned' 14 tr CD LP Way Over There 1997 Recorded by Lyndon Kriss in Haddon

'Amen' 12 tr CD LP Way Over There 1998 Recorded by Andy Stewart in Melbourne
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Pictures: Coming soon!
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RealVideo:
Watch The Dead Salesmen's 'BEER' Film Clip
RealPlayer Stereo 37kbs Clip
Watch THE DEAD SALESMEN DUO Live
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(I have art by these artist: word, music and image)

'What Is The Right Thing To Do?'
Bridge Mall Inn - Jan 23rd 1999
RealPlayer 24kbs Clip

Sounds:
Listen to The Dead Salesmen
CD recording of "Amen" -
Title track of the new CD
RealPlayer Mono 16kbs Clip
http://www.ballarat.net.au/big/hbb/HistDeadSales.htm
No other information available


While most of Victoria
either celebrated or commiserated
the result of the 2009 Grand Final,
in a pub in Ballarat

a packed crowd had gathered
for an entirely non-sporting piece of history:

the return of the Dead Salesmen
to the stage after 10 years.

The Ratstock series of gigs
have been run perennially since May this year;
billed as an effort
to draw
Ballarat's
disparate music community together
and celebrate the town's
rich culture of original music
and performance,
it also acts as a bridge
between
the 'grunge' generation
who filled the town's pubs in the early 90s,
and the inheritors to Generation X
who get their music from websites
and listen to it on their mobile phones.

Upon this chilly Grand Final night the music was a mix
of wild and loose rhythm and blues from Ballarat 'supergroup'
Los Grande Rancheros, funky stripped-down grooves
from all-female act Hip-popatamus,
mainstream rock from BJ Lloyd and the Cold December,
crunching power-trio funk from The Guilliano Project -
with a return to stage of the four-piece band
known as the Dead Salesmen.

Old grudges,
disputes
and rivalries
appeared dissolved
as the band took to the stage
and delivered a tight, flawless 45 minute set
to a wildly appreciative crowd,
with the lingering promise
of perhaps another re-union
before Christmas.

A Wedding Present for a Small
http://www.myspace.com/thedeadsalesmen

vera susa
14-11-2009, 07:43 AM
Edmund Rice Camps Benefit
http://www.pbsfm.org.au/SiteImages/img37131.jpg
A fundraiser show for the Edmund Rice Camps
which offer holiday programs for some of
Victorias most disadvantaged children.

The camps take place every school holidays
and are staffed by young adult volunteers
who provide care, supervision and
sound role- modelling for participants
on a minimum one to one ratio.

This fundraiser show offers a great afternoon and evening
of music featuring some of Australia's biggest performers
all donating their time to support the Edmund Rice Programs.

Featuring:

* Deb Conway

* Things Of Stone and Wood(Duo)

* Paul Kelly

* Rob Clarkson

* Dead Salesman(Duo)

* Jaimi Faulkner

* Band plus more to be announced...


When: Sunday 16th October, 5-11Pm.
Where: Corner Hotel, 57 Swan St Richmond 3121
Tickets: $25+bf
Bookings: 03 9427 9198 or www.cornerhotel.com

Throughout Australia approximately 4000 men and women work as professionals and volunteers in education, welfare and community groups which take their inspiration from Edmund Rice.

WHO IS EDMUND RICE?
Edmund Rice was an Irish businessman who used his wealth for the service of the poor,
particularly through education.
A small proportion of the 4000 working in Australia in education,
welfare and the community are Christian Brothers,
members of the Catholic Religious Order founded by Edmund Rice.
The vast majority are not,
but are part of the Edmund Rice Family Movement.
In varying ways they draw inspiration for their lives and work
from Edmund and from his service of the most disadvantaged.

In the tradition of Edmund, education is seen as a key way
of assisting young people to develop as people who
are able to live fully human lives and make their best contribution
to the human community.

A special emphasis is placed on the values of social justice.

Apart from mainstream schools, the Edmund Rice Family network
includes a number of schools established to serve the needs
of young people who are not suited to
the structure of traditional schooling.

Through Edmund Rice Camps,
young people assist in providing holidays
for children who would otherwise not have this experience.

Edmund Rice Family volunteers can also be found
in aboriginal communities throughout
Australia, in East Timor, in Africa
and other places throughout the world.

vera susa
14-11-2009, 08:31 AM
Turnbull slams
'fast-tracked deal'
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7173005,00.jpg
Turnbull slams
'fast-tracked deal'

OCEANIC Viking debacle
one of Australia's
most humiliating episodes,
Opposition says.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,7173006,00.jpg
Sri Lankan refugees
wave from a Australian Customs' life boat
after being transported from the Oceanic Viking
/ AP

Malcolm Turnbull
slams Oceanic Viking
asylum-seeker deal

November 14, 2009
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26349910-421,00.html


* Video: 22 men leave boat
http://player.video.news.com.au/news/#MjBEzPUPE9RWLITiJnnRUoahKVHp24_8

vera susa
14-11-2009, 08:39 AM
US commitment to Asia
'unshakeable'
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/resize/index/id/132987/w/107/h/80/1132167_pic.jpg
US President Barack Obama
called on Asia to embrace
'balanced and sustained'
economic growth.
(Getty Images)


14 Nov 2009, 12:49PM

Asia-Pacific |
US President Barack Obama
has delivered a major foreign policy speech in Japan,
discussing economic and human rights issues.
Read more
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1132167/Obama-hails-China%27s-expanded-role-in-world-affairs
* APEC focuses on global economy
* Obama launches Asia tour in Japan
* Obama to skip 'funny shirt day'
* China's currency to dominate APEC

********

Rudd rejcts claims of
special asylum deal
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/resize/index/id/133027/w/107/h/80/1132212_pic.jpg
Twenty-two asylum seekers
came off the Oceanic Viking
and were taken to
a refugee centre in Tanjung Pinang. (AAP)

14 Nov 2009, 3:02PM

Australia |
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
denies Australia is sending a dangerous message
to future asylum seekers,
denying a special deal was made.
Read more
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1132212/Rudd-rejcts-claims-of-special-asylum-deal

* Liberals split on immigration
* Jakarta: Australia to sort out crisis
* Bulk of Tamils 'likely to be accepted'
* First Sri Lankans leave Oceanic Viking

vera susa
14-11-2009, 08:46 AM
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/11/13/858053/powderfinger-strap.jpg
http://images.watoday.com.au/2009/11/14/859789/tiger-236x289.jpg
tiger
Three-way tie
at Australian Masters

WA's Greg Chalmers
tied for the lead with
Tiger Woods and
James Nitties.

http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/woods-clings-to-share-of-the-lead-20091114-ifh5.html?autostart=1

vera susa
14-11-2009, 08:58 AM
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WIKIPEDIA


WIKIPEDIA
Today's featured article

"I Don't Remember"


"I Don't Remember" on
the [B]Across the Great Divide tour.[/COLOR]



Powderfinger
I Don't Remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc32FbOF-S4

http://www.myspace.com/powderfinger

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I Don't Remember

Tonight my heart well it broke like glass
I made a mistake that i'll never surpass
I'm floating in space unattached to the world
I cast off the memory of the spell of that girl
Whatever I get I guess its what I deserve

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

I smashed the mirror just to look whats behind
Picked through the pieces just to see what i'd find
I found my heart and it broke like glass
I made that mistake that i'll never surpass
I let go of my grip on the past

I don't remember
Just what made it so hard before
I know you needed someone to take the fall
I know you needed someone to blame it on

Hey, hey don't you look away
Hey, hey I've got something to say

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Sure thing ... Woods
is in the box seat
after 36 holes.
George Salpigtidis

vera susa
14-11-2009, 09:34 AM
And yet another sign of "Them"
COMING "HOME" to Shore Up
'The Safe House'...

CSIRO
Media ReleaseThe CSIRO Renewable Energy Integration Facility.
A step towards zero emission communities

A new CSIRO research centre to help transform Australian electricity networks and lower greenhouse gas emissions was opened today at the CSIRO Energy Centre in Newcastle, NSW.

4 November 2009

New Chief for CSIRO
Food and Nutritional Sciences
Reference: 09/202

The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
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The Chief of CSIRO’s Division of
Food and Nutritional Sciences (FNS) –
Professor Martin Cole.
Photo: CSIRO

Internationally recognised
food scientist and science leader,
Professor Martin Cole,
will start as the Chief of CSIRO’s
Division of Food and Nutritional Sciences
(FNS) in January 2010.


Professor Cole is currently
Director of the National Centre for
Food Safety and Technology (NCFST)
in the United States and
Research Professor of Biology
at Illinois Institute of Technology.

Born in the United Kingdom,
Professor Cole graduated with
a Bachelor of Science from the
Manchester Metropolitan University
and completed a PhD at the
University of East Anglia in 1988.

His career has included research and
management appointments with
food companies
Unilever and Nabisco.

From 1999 to 2004 Professor Cole was based at
Food Science Australia (FSA) –
a joint venture between CSIRO and the
Victorian Government
and the predecessor to FNS.

His time at FSA included 15 months as acting CEO.

With many years of experience
in food policy
and the development
of international
food safety standards,
Professor Cole has frequently been called upon
as an expert by organisations such the
World Health Organization (WHO),
the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
well as the US House of Representatives.
“A strong research effort is important to ensuring we can sustainably produce enough food, food that is healthier and safer. It is an exciting challenge.”
Professor Cole

He has received numerous awards including
election as a fellow of the
International Academy of
Food Science & Technology
and he currently chairs the
International Commission on the
Microbiological Specifications for Food.

“I’m looking forward
to the opportunity
to return to Australia and CSIRO,”
Professor Cole said.
“Australia, and hence CSIRO,
have a huge role to play
in global food production.
A strong research effort is important
ensuring we can sustainably produce
enough food, food that is
healthier and safer.
It is an exciting challenge.”

Professor Cole takes over from interim Chief and
FSA CEO Professor Alan Bell,
who has overseen the move from
Food Science Australia to
CSIRO Food and Nutritional Sciences.
Professor Bell will return as
Chief of CSIRO Livestock Industries.

CSIRO established FNS in July
in a new research collaboration with
the Victorian Government
to continue the research capability
and portfolio operated by FSA.



A step towards
zero emission communities
http://www.csiro.au/files/images/ptme.jpg
A new CSIRO research centre
to help transform
Australian electricity networks
and lower greenhouse gas emissions
was opened today at the
CSIRO Energy Centre in
Newcastle, NSW.

http://www.csiro.au/news/New-Renewable-Energy-Integration-Facility.html

*****

Military watched
pirates hijack UK tourists

Posted 5 hours 57 minutes ago
Updated 14 minutes ago

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r469858_2346727.jpg
Hijack:
The couple were sailing near the Seychelles
on their yacht the Lynn Rival.

Hijack: The couple were sailing near the Seychelles on their yacht the Lynn Rival. (AFP)

* Related Story:
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The crew of a British military ship watched as a British couple were taken hostage by Somali pirates but were ordered not to open fire, the Ministry of Defence said.

The ministry insisted that the ship, the Royal Fleet Auxiliary replenishment tanker Wave Knight, could not have acted without endangering the lives of Paul Chandler, 59, and his wife, Rachel, 55.

The couple were sailing near the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean on their yacht the Lynn Rival when pirates boarded as they slept on October 23.

The British ship was carrying 75 merchant seamen and 25 Royal Navy sailors as well as a helicopter at the time of the incident.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "Every effort was made by the Royal Navy and the international maritime fleet to locate the Lynn Rival.

"We did everything we could possibly do without further endangering the lives of Paul and Rachel Chandler.

"We do not comment on operational detail but RFA Wave Knight did very well under the circumstances."

In a phone call on October 29, the couple said they were initially moved from their yacht to a Singapore-flagged container ship, which was under the pirates' control.

One of the pirates, Abdi Yare, told AFP on October 31
that the couple had then been moved
to a location near the pirate lair of
Harardhere
on the central coast of Somalia.

The pirates have demanded a ransom of
$7 million but the British government
has insisted it will not make any payment.

- AFP

Tags: navy, law-crime-and-justice,
somalia, united-kingdom, england
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/14/2742875.htm


NASA tries to dispel
2012 film myths

Posted Thu
Nov 12, 2009
10:30am AEDT

2012
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r468559_2334378.jpg
End-of-the-world movie
2012 hits cinemas today.
(www.imdb.com)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/apollo-11/images/promo-banner.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/12/2740607.htm

vera susa
14-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Obama endorses
Pacific
free trade bloc

Photo
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r469839_2346378.jpg
The US President gave
the much-hoped-for endorsement
of the eight-member
Trans-Pacific Partnership
during a speech in Japan.
(AFP: Mandel Ngan)

Posted 2 hours 15 minutes ago
Updated 58 minutes ago

Barack Obama has endorsed a push
to set up a free trade bloc in the Pacific.

Tags:
business-economics-and-finance, trade,
government-and-politics, foreign-affairs,
world-politics, agreements-and-treaties,
australia, japan, united-states, pacific
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/14/2742930.htm?section=justin

vera susa
14-11-2009, 10:00 AM
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/sites/all/themes/project_next/css/images/hungry-beast-logo.png

In Episode 7 of HUNGRY BEAST:

A message from P&O
What's the weather forecast for Channel 9?
The Pacific's Great Garbage Patch
Robots are fine!
Parliament's biggest mouth: Wilson Tuckey
Can paedophilia be treated?
How to waste time at work

And our regular segments:
Things We Think Might Be Bullshit
Stuff Said This Week
The Other News
Follow The Money.
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/episodes/episode-7

vera susa
14-11-2009, 10:22 AM
ABC TV

The LOST WORLD of
COMMUNISM

http://www.internationalbenchmarking.org/iview/#/view/457894

palomino
14-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Rage playlist for Saturday 14 November 2009
http://www.abc.net.au/rage/archive/s2742104.htm



THE SUNNYBOYS Alone With You (BMG)
THE SAINTS Ghost Ships (Festival)
THE STRANGLERS Peaches (EMI)
REG AND PETE'S DOG TRUMPET I'm So Handsome (Fest/Mush)
SPARKS No. 1 Song In Heaven (Roadrunner)
SPLIT ENZ I See Red (Fest/Mush)

23:30pm
GODLEY & CREME An Englishman In New York (Polydor)
THE B-52'S Rock Lobster (Warner)
DEVO Freedom Of Choice (Warner)
HOT CHOCOLATE Everyone's A Winner (EMI)
XTC Making Plans For Nigel (Virgin)
DAVE EDMUNDS Girls Talk (SBME)

12:00am
STEVE MILLER BAND Abracadabra (Polydor)
DAVID BOWIE China Girl (EMI)
LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM Trouble (Warner)
10CC I'm Not In Love (Polydor)
RUSSELL MORRIS Sweet Sweet Love (Fest/Mush)
ABBAChiquitita (Mercury)
THE DREAM ACADEMY Life In A Northern Town (WEA)

12:30am
ELVIS COSTELLO (I Don't Want To Go To) Chelsea (Shock)
LOU REED I Love Women (BMG)
THE BEACH BOYS I Get Around (EMI)
EDDY GRANT Electric Avenue (EMI)
ZZ TOP Legs (Warner)
CREAM - Live at Royal Albert Hall White Room (Warner)
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL Heard It Through The Grapevine (Festival)

1:00am
ROD STEWART & THE FACES Twistin' The Night Away (Warner)
THE ROLLING STONES 2,000 Light Years From Home (Sony)
DAVE DOBBYN Slice Of Heaven (Sony)
SUZI QUATRO Devil Gate Drive/Can The Can/48 Crash (Polydor)
SLADE Mama Weer All Crazee Now (Polydor)
SCHNELL FENSTER - Live on Countdown Revolution OK Alright Uh Huh Oh Yeah (Warner)
DADDY COOL Come Back Again (Festival)

1:30am
DRAGON Still In Love With You (Polydor)
NORMAN GUNSTON Delilah (Fest/Mush)
BUTTHOLE SURFERS Pepper (EMI)
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS Istanbul (Not Constantinople) (Warner)
SCHNAPPI Das Kleine Krokodil (Universal)
EMINEM My Name Is (Universal (MCA))
PUBLIC ENEMY Do You Wanna Go Our Way? (MDS)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING The Nips Are Getting Bigger (Sony)

2:00am
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Come Around (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Romeo & Juliet (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Berserk Warriors (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Spirit Got Lost (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING You're So Strong (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Let's Go To Paradise (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING He's Just No Good For You (Warner)
MONDO ROCK Come Said The Boy (WEA)
THE FLOWERS We Can Get Together (Festival)

2:30am
ICEHOUSE Great Southern Land (Festival)
AUSTRALIAN CRAWL Reckless (EMI)
COLD CHISEL Flame Trees (Warner)
INXS Don't Change (Warner)
THE EXPRESSION Small Brave Land (Festival)
DROP BEARS Fun Loving (Independent)
THE REELS Pre-Fab Hearts (Mercury)

3:00am
THE SWINGERS Counting The Beat (Festival)
PAINTERS AND DOCKERS Die Yuppie Die (Mushroom)
THE HARD-ONS Something About You (Festival)
THE HITMEN Don't Hit Girls (BMG)
THE BIRTHDAY PARTY - Live Dead Song (Mushroom)
PEL MEL No Word From China (Independent)
TACTICS Second Language (Festival)
MACHINATIONS Execution of Love (Mushroom)
DEAD CAN DANCE The Protagonist (Shock)

3:30am
THE DIVINYLS Science Fiction (Virgin)
EUROGLIDERS Heaven (Must Be There) (Sony)
GOANNA Solid Rock (Warner)
MATT FINISH Always Another (Sony)
SPY VS. SPY One Of A Kind (Warner)
MIDNIGHT OIL Armistice Day (Sony)
REDGUM I Was Only 19 (Sony)

4:00am
MOVING PICTURES What About Me? (EMI)
1927 If I Could (Warner)
AUSTEN TAYSHUS Australiana (Independent)
JOE DOLCE Shaddup Your Face (Sony)
STEPHEN CUMMINGS Back Stabbers (Polydor)
BILLY FIELD You Weren't In Love With Me (Warner)
RICK SPRINGFIELD Jessie's Girl (Sony)
JOHN FARNHAM Pressure Down (Sony)

4:30am
VITABEATS Boom Box (EMI)
DECKCHAIRS OVERBOARD That's The Way (Independent)
COCKROACHES Wait Up (Independent)
THE MODELS Out Of Mind Out Of Sight (Festival)
HOODOO GURUS I Want You Back (BMG)
THE STEMS For Always (Independent)
CROWDED HOUSE Mean To Me (EMI)
PAUL KELLY & THE COLOURED GIRLS Dumb Things (Mushroom)
ED KUEPPER Not A Soul Around (Polydor)

5:00am
HUNTERS & COLLECTORS Say Goodbye (Mushroom)
MICHAEL HUTCHENCE Rooms For The Memory (Warner)
JENNY MORRIS - Live on Countdown Revolution She Has To Be Loved (Warner)
PETER BLAKELEY Crying In The Chapel (Capitol)
DO RE MI Adultery (Virgin)
LITTLE RIVER BAND The Night Owls (Capitol)
PARTY BOYS, THE - Live He's Gonna Step On You Again (CBS)
BOOM CRASH OPERA Great Wall (WEA)

5:30am
GANGGAJANGWalking On Sunshine (Polydor)
GEISHA Part Time Love Affair (EMI)
KIDS IN THE KITCHEN Current Stand (Independent)
WA WA NEE Stimulation (Sony)
THE RADIATORS Life's A Gamble (EMI)
KOO DE TAH Too Young For Promises (Polydor)
OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN Landslide (Fest/Mush)

6:00am
PSEUDO ECHO Funky Town (EMI)
REAL LIFE Send Me An Angel (BMG)
CHRISTIE ALLEN - Live On Countdown Goosebumps (Mushroom)
SKIPPING GIRL VINEGAR Sinking (Independent)
THE SNOWDROPPERS Rosemary (Independent)
ERNEST ELLIS Heading For The Cold (Dew Process/UMA)
THE MESS HALL Bell (Ivy League)
MIDNIGHT JUGGERNAUTS This New Technology (Bandroom)

palomino
14-11-2009, 07:22 PM
http://www.mymooneevalley.com.au/news/local/news/general/scientology-permit-for-up-to-600/1647851.aspx


Scientology permit for up to 600


BY EUGENE BENSON
13 Oct, 2009 11:10 AM

Yep - last Friday!!!!!!!

DESPITE objections from resident and doubts from one councillor, Moonee Valley Council has amended a planning permit to allow up to 600 people to meet at the Church of Scientology's Mt Alexander Road headquarters up to six times a year.


The religion's headquarters are under construction at the former site of a Sisters of Mercy convent, opposite the Essendon tram depot.
The council had previously granted a permit to allow up to 300 people at the building but the Church of Scientology subsequently requested an increase to 600 as it expects to host up to six events a year that could attract that many.

The permit amendment was supported by all councillors except South Ward's Rose Iser.

Ascot Vale resident Paul Norman said he thought the decision would add to existing parking problems. "It's going to be chaos - how do you control where 600 people park?

"Whether it's 150-300 or 600 people for the special events the problem is still going to be there when there are only 45 or 50 parks for parishioners."
Mr Norman said he hoped the council would act to enforce any parking breaches and ensure residents could still get parking spaces for themselves.

"What I would like to think could happen is zoned parking for residents like they have in Moonee Ponds near the restaurant precinct."

Church of Scientology property manager Andre Kortbawi said he was pleased the council had listened and the major events at the site were similar to those all churches had.

He said people harbouring fears about a lack of parking should consider that many Scientologists preferred to travel by public transport.
"We chose this spot for our headquarters mainly because we like its appearance.

"An extra important feature is that it's right on the tram line and most of our parishioners are sustainability-oriented, they catch trams or ride push bikes or scooters or motorbikes.

"If you come to our building in the city you can see that."
Cr Iser said following the planning scheme was more important than trying to meet the requests of the board of the Church of Scientology.
"Something like 83per cent of all travel is by car so [if we pass this] we are taking on trust that there is going to be an anomalous statistical arrangement with the people attending events at this site that they won't get there by car."

palomino
14-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Rage playlist for Saturday 14 November 2009
http://www.abc.net.au/rage/archive/s2742104.htm



THE SUNNYBOYS Alone With You (BMG)
THE SAINTS Ghost Ships (Festival)
THE STRANGLERS Peaches (EMI)
REG AND PETE'S DOG TRUMPET I'm So Handsome (Fest/Mush)
SPARKS No. 1 Song In Heaven (Roadrunner)
SPLIT ENZ I See Red (Fest/Mush)

23:30pm
GODLEY & CREME An Englishman In New York (Polydor)
THE B-52'S Rock Lobster (Warner)
DEVO Freedom Of Choice (Warner)
HOT CHOCOLATE Everyone's A Winner (EMI)
XTC Making Plans For Nigel (Virgin)
DAVE EDMUNDS Girls Talk (SBME)

12:00am
STEVE MILLER BAND Abracadabra (Polydor)
DAVID BOWIE China Girl (EMI)
LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM Trouble (Warner)
10CC I'm Not In Love (Polydor)
RUSSELL MORRIS Sweet Sweet Love (Fest/Mush)
ABBAChiquitita (Mercury)
THE DREAM ACADEMY Life In A Northern Town (WEA)

12:30am
ELVIS COSTELLO (I Don't Want To Go To) Chelsea (Shock)
LOU REED I Love Women (BMG)
THE BEACH BOYS I Get Around (EMI)
EDDY GRANT Electric Avenue (EMI)
ZZ TOP Legs (Warner)
CREAM - Live at Royal Albert Hall White Room (Warner)
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL Heard It Through The Grapevine (Festival)

1:00am
ROD STEWART & THE FACES Twistin' The Night Away (Warner)
THE ROLLING STONES 2,000 Light Years From Home (Sony)
DAVE DOBBYN Slice Of Heaven (Sony)
SUZI QUATRO Devil Gate Drive/Can The Can/48 Crash (Polydor)
SLADE Mama Weer All Crazee Now (Polydor)
SCHNELL FENSTER - Live on Countdown Revolution OK Alright Uh Huh Oh Yeah (Warner)
DADDY COOL Come Back Again (Festival)

1:30am
DRAGON Still In Love With You (Polydor)
NORMAN GUNSTON Delilah (Fest/Mush)
BUTTHOLE SURFERS Pepper (EMI)
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS Istanbul (Not Constantinople) (Warner)
SCHNAPPI Das Kleine Krokodil (Universal)
EMINEM My Name Is (Universal (MCA))
PUBLIC ENEMY Do You Wanna Go Our Way? (MDS)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING The Nips Are Getting Bigger (Sony)

2:00am
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Come Around (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Romeo & Juliet (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Berserk Warriors (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Spirit Got Lost (Sony)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING You're So Strong (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING Let's Go To Paradise (Warner)
MENTAL AS ANYTHING He's Just No Good For You (Warner)
MONDO ROCK Come Said The Boy (WEA)
THE FLOWERS We Can Get Together (Festival)

2:30am
ICEHOUSE Great Southern Land (Festival)
AUSTRALIAN CRAWL Reckless (EMI)
COLD CHISEL Flame Trees (Warner)
INXS Don't Change (Warner)
THE EXPRESSION Small Brave Land (Festival)
DROP BEARS Fun Loving (Independent)
THE REELS Pre-Fab Hearts (Mercury)

3:00am
THE SWINGERS Counting The Beat (Festival)
PAINTERS AND DOCKERS Die Yuppie Die (Mushroom)
THE HARD-ONS Something About You (Festival)
THE HITMEN Don't Hit Girls (BMG)
THE BIRTHDAY PARTY - Live Dead Song (Mushroom)
PEL MEL No Word From China (Independent)
TACTICS Second Language (Festival)
MACHINATIONS Execution of Love (Mushroom)
DEAD CAN DANCE The Protagonist (Shock)

3:30am
THE DIVINYLS Science Fiction (Virgin)
EUROGLIDERS Heaven (Must Be There) (Sony)
GOANNA Solid Rock (Warner)
MATT FINISH Always Another (Sony)
SPY VS. SPY One Of A Kind (Warner)
MIDNIGHT OIL Armistice Day (Sony)
REDGUM I Was Only 19 (Sony)

4:00am
MOVING PICTURES What About Me? (EMI)
1927 If I Could (Warner)
AUSTEN TAYSHUS Australiana (Independent)
JOE DOLCE Shaddup Your Face (Sony)
STEPHEN CUMMINGS Back Stabbers (Polydor)
BILLY FIELD You Weren't In Love With Me (Warner)
RICK SPRINGFIELD Jessie's Girl (Sony)
JOHN FARNHAM Pressure Down (Sony)

4:30am
VITABEATS Boom Box (EMI)
DECKCHAIRS OVERBOARD That's The Way (Independent)
COCKROACHES Wait Up (Independent)
THE MODELS Out Of Mind Out Of Sight (Festival)
HOODOO GURUS I Want You Back (BMG)
THE STEMS For Always (Independent)
CROWDED HOUSE Mean To Me (EMI)
PAUL KELLY & THE COLOURED GIRLS Dumb Things (Mushroom)
ED KUEPPER Not A Soul Around (Polydor)

5:00am
HUNTERS & COLLECTORS Say Goodbye (Mushroom)
MICHAEL HUTCHENCE Rooms For The Memory (Warner)
JENNY MORRIS - Live on Countdown Revolution She Has To Be Loved (Warner)
PETER BLAKELEY Crying In The Chapel (Capitol)
DO RE MI Adultery (Virgin)
LITTLE RIVER BAND The Night Owls (Capitol)
PARTY BOYS, THE - Live He's Gonna Step On You Again (CBS)
BOOM CRASH OPERA Great Wall (WEA)

5:30am
GANGGAJANGWalking On Sunshine (Polydor)
GEISHA Part Time Love Affair (EMI)
KIDS IN THE KITCHEN Current Stand (Independent)
WA WA NEE Stimulation (Sony)
THE RADIATORS Life's A Gamble (EMI)
KOO DE TAH Too Young For Promises (Polydor)
OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN Landslide (Fest/Mush)

6:00am
PSEUDO ECHO Funky Town (EMI)
REAL LIFE Send Me An Angel (BMG)
CHRISTIE ALLEN - Live On Countdown Goosebumps (Mushroom)
SKIPPING GIRL VINEGAR Sinking (Independent)
THE SNOWDROPPERS Rosemary (Independent)
ERNEST ELLIS Heading For The Cold (Dew Process/UMA)
THE MESS HALL Bell (Ivy League)
MIDNIGHT JUGGERNAUTS This New Technology (Bandroom)

PSEUDO ECHO Funky Town (EMI)

Gotta make a move to a town thats right for me

Talk about it, talk about it... talk about moving

Gotta move on