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mountain

01-10-2009, 12:23 AM

I recently posted these vids in Stepford Wives thread and the Cobain one. They got burried though. I think these are pretty good and thanks to Esoteric Kitten for producing them :)

They touch on the Hollywood side of MKultra, they have certainly made me more aware, have a watch! :)

I apologize for the missing ones in this post, the originator is still making them so make sure you bookmark the channel on Youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4QcW8y5ou8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZgVk2-7IhA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyXTNvEXna4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqn1w63FI84&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVVJNJfHiDI&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9OA0Ck_gk&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPb7-3j66DQ&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JftG5ogtzBM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv_rydq-ArU&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceqAXNUR9_c&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6b384sKUA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU9FvRGZobA&feature=channel

armoured_amazon

01-10-2009, 12:25 AM

Subbed. :)

manxboz

02-10-2009, 02:35 AM

Good find Pixie.

beldazar

02-10-2009, 08:24 AM

Excellent! I will sit and watch these later. Thanks Mountain! :)

antiem

02-10-2009, 08:34 AM

Well done, I've seen them before and it's very well done in my opinion. The topic is so very complicated, it's a relief to watch this! :)

All my love, Antiem

infin8_possibility

02-10-2009, 09:15 AM

beldazar

02-10-2009, 09:23 AM

Haha infin8! Classis scepticism. Not watched them yet, will make a judgement after :D

infin8_possibility

02-10-2009, 09:46 AM

Haha infin8! Classis scepticism. Not watched them yet, will make a judgement after :D

I just need a push in the right direction! ;):D (Preferably not in front of a car or off a cliff) :eek::D

beldazar

02-10-2009, 10:52 AM

I just need a push in the right direction! ;):D (Preferably not in front of a car or off a cliff) :eek::D

:cool: :D

mr_pixie

02-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Good find Pixie.

Are you refearing to me? because I havent found or posted anything to do with this thread???? Mountain posted this on my visator messages?

infin8_possibility

02-10-2009, 04:39 PM

Are you refearing to me? because I havent found or posted anything to do with this thread???? Mountain posted this on my visator messages?

Lol, that is funny :D

lostworld

03-10-2009, 12:44 AM

sithnemesis

03-10-2009, 02:20 PM

What brilliant find Mountain!!

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/nucamern.htm

James Cameron
and MK-ULTRA
by "Morning Star the Light Bearer"

Mar 17 1998
From: Anonymous nobody@replay.com [Morning Star the Light Bearer]

There is obviously no way to communicate with the author about the veracity of this work, which he sent by anonymous E-mail. It is featured here for critical analysis.

Being one of the most successful movies in the world is an astounding statement from people who have seen James Cameron's "Titanic". It is a reflection of how many people have been affected by the imagery and emotion within the film. Although there have been those who have found fault in parts of Titanic's technical side, the emotional side turned out to be perfect; or was it deliberately engineered that way? Some have called the emotion within Titanic manipulative to the point of deliberately having scenes that elate, sadden, shock and anger the audience.

This manipulation is an interesting aspect of Mr. Cameron's work. No matter what he works on or writes, the emotional atmosphere always is perfect in the finished product and according to Cameron is "biographical" of his life. Born in Canada in 1956, James Cameron has always strived to be the best, whether they were class projects or playing soldier with his friends. According to Cameron's "official" biography, his childhood created the drive to overcome obstacles which stood in his way and would help later in life.

At this point in history, another person, who shares the surname Cameron, was at work making progress manipulating behavior and emotion for a deliberately engineered goal. The person is Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron.

Dr. Cameron began his career in psychology assisting the Office of Special Services (O.S.S.), interrogating prisoners during World War II. His most famous patient was Rudolf Hess, who flew in a plane to Britain in order to make a peace deal between Germany and the Allies. Hess was captured and imprisoned and later was interviewed by several psychiatrists, including Dr. Cameron. Much of Dr. Cameron's work, involved psychiatric techniques designed to modify and control a persons behavior patterns. Dr. Cameron's work was also derived from experiments performed on concentration camp prisoners in Nazi Germany and brought to the U.S. after World War II by the O.S.S. under "Operation Paper Clip".

In the 1950's, Dr. Cameron's successful work led to his appointment as head of the American Psychological Association (APA), the Canadian Psychological Association (CPA) and the World Psychological Association (WPA). By this time the O.S.S. had changed it's name under President Harry Truman's Administration to become the Central Intelligence Agency (C.I.A.) in 1947. Dr. Cameron was contracted by the C.I.A. to continue his work in behavior manipulation under Projects Bluebird and Artichoke which would later become MK-ULTRA in 1953.

MK-ULTRA had several sub-programs, approximately 149, from fields ranging from biology, drugs, sexual activities, technology, physics, psychology and even motion pictures. It's no accident that movies created in the McCarthy era in the 1950's, were designed to scare the public about the threat of Communists, brainwashing or space aliens. Hollywood's motion pictures became a tool of MK-ULTRA.

In the world of psychiatry, Dr. Cameron was a relentless, merciless man driven by a need to know how to control and modify human behavior, in other words, direct it. His most common experiments were drug inducement, sensory deprivation, sensory overload, as well as "psychic driving", the process of replaying his voice recorded in previous sessions with his patients. Dr. Cameron also performed prefrontal lobotomies and electro-conclusive shock treatments.

According to the CIA's charter, Dr. Cameron's work, especially in creating potential "Manchurian Candidates" would have violated the ban on domestic CIA operations within the United States. With the help of the Canadian government and C.I.A. Director Allen Dulles, who was one of Cameron's colleagues in the O.S.S., Dr. Cameron relocated his work to the Allen Memorial Psychiatric Institute in Montreal, Canada in 1957 and stayed there until 1963.

On a side note, Allen Dulles would run the C.I.A. until after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, when he and General Charles Cabell (brother of Earl Cabell, the mayor of Dallas) were fired by President John F. Kennedy in 1961. After the tragedy of John F. Kennedy's assassination on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, Dulles was appointed to Warren Commission by Chief Justice Earl Warren to help investigate the assassination and the background of supposed assassin or patsy, Lee Harvey Oswald.

The Allen Institute would soon become an infamous brain butchery under Dr. Camerons control. Many patients were subjected to extreme and harsh conditions that included drug induced comas that lasted months, lobotomies, bright lights, sounds, moving images and electro-shocking that were in such excesses that it killed the patients. Other creations of Dr. Camerons butcher shop included the development of psychedelic drugs, most notably, LSD.

After Dr. Cameron left Montreal, he retired to private life in the United States and vanished from the picture, but his work continued on in MK-ULTRA until it was supposedly shut down by CIA Director Richard Helms in 1973. Many of the documents from MK-ULTRA were destroyed on orders from Helms. Helms was also responsible for providing E. Howard Hunt with the information necessary for the break-in at the Watergate hotel in 1972 for the purpose of helping President Richard Nixon smear Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon aide who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Watergate would eventually lead to the resignation of Nixon in 1974.

The murky world of intelligence operations became murkier as names changed to protect secrecy. MK-ULTRA simply assumed the new name MK-SEARCH and continued on into 1984.

In the late 1970's as MK-SEARCH (MK-ULTRA) continued on the intelligence front, a yet unknown film maker in California, named James Cameron decided to quit his job driving trucks and get into the film making business.

According to "official history" James Cameron, after attending five semesters at Fullerton College in Orange County, California, convinced a consortium of dentists from Tustin, California seeking a tax writeoff to finance a short film. The word "consortium" is interesting in itself; it's dictionary term is given as "international business alliance". Since these dentists are from a local area, why are they described in this manner? If "business" is dropped from the definition, we're left with "international alliance" meaning they belong to some large organization which envelops the world.

In actuality, these "dentists" were "psychiatrists" and operatives connected to the CIA's MK-ULTRA program and Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron. James Cameron as well as the "psychiatrists" knew each other from a fraternal organization they belonged to. This secret brotherhood helped finance Cameron's first film and would continue to help his career. He had entered this organization when he turned 21 years of age. The majority of persons in intelligence community, including Dr. Cameron belonged to the same organization, which is commonly known as the Freemasons.

The Freemasons are a global fraternal organization that exist for the express purpose of enlightening those who choose to join it's ranks. According to public sources, Freemasonry was created in the 1700's in Europe, but if one delves deeper into the mysteries that make up Masonry, it is learned that the origins of the brotherhood trace back to a highly advanced civilization named Atlantis which existed before the one we're in now. Much of the high technology, advanced thinking and philosophical ideals were handed down through the generations in secret after the "Great Flood" destroyed Atlantis.

This technology would be revealed to the people of the world once again at a prescribed moment in time. It's no accident the 20th Century is one of the most technological achieving centuries in our civilization. This century saw the creation of techniques that would be used to control the mind as we saw earlier in this document with the CIA's implementation of Dr. Cameron's mind experiments and MK-ULTRA technology.

The reason the "consortium" approached James Cameron was for the opportunity to use in the motion picture field for the purposes of subliminal imagery and emotional manipulation on mass numbers of people and prepare them for an engineered future.

James Cameron continued on from his short-film project to enter the world of Roger Corman. The studio owned by Corman was aptly named "New World Pictures". The "New World" was short for "New World Order" a phrase that embodies the idealism of Freemasonry, a global government. The phrase wouldn't be uttered in public until 1991 by President George Bush(Former Director of the CIA and 33rd Degree Mason).

Cameron worked as miniature builder, model unit DP and matte painter on a film called "Battle Beyond the Stars" in which the title was symbolic of a belief held by many in the UFO community as well as Freemasons, that an ancient battle took place in this solar system about 12,000 years ago. The idea was to use MK-ULTRA technology to begin preparing the masses for the belief in extra-terrestials for the purpose of bringing humanity into the "New World Order". More of this would be used later in Cameron's film career.

Determined to get into directing, Cameron worked on another sci-fi film with a symbolic name, "Galaxy of Terror". Cameron became second unit director.

In 1982, during the early years of the administration of President Ronald Reagan (33rd Degree Mason), Cameron wrote "The Terminator" along with his 2nd wife Gale Anne Hurd, who's a member of the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic women's organization.

The basic idea of "The Terminator" involved sending a man back through time to prevent a cyborg from killing a woman who would give birth to humanity's savior who would save humanity from a world ruled by machines. The symbology of this story was taken from the Bible with the woman's situation somewhat compared to the "virgin mary" and humanity's savior paralleled to her son.

The Freemasonic symbolism in the Terminator was prevalent through out the movie. One of the first signs was the use of "blue light" used in dark situations and would later become one of Cameron's directing styles.

The blue light was symbolic of Cameron's ascension from the first three degrees of Masonry which are known as the blue lodges, to the next level of degrees which are known as the York Rite.

The next symbol was the use of a particular set of words by one of the characters who described the machines as "a new order of intelligence". You can hear the words "New World Order" in the sub-text.

The most concrete symbol was the name of the distributor for the film. Although Cameron worked with Hemdale and HBO to get the film made, the film was distributed by Orion Pictures. Orion is symbolic of Osiris, the ancient Egyptian god of the Sun and fertility.

This sun-worship symbol is heavily used in Freemasonry to represent light and fertility or the "compass" in the square and compass symbology of Masonry. Osiris's counterpart Isis, is symbolic of Sirius, the star system in which Freemasons believe they came from as well as being the symbol for the carpenter's square in the "square and compass" symbol.

The purpose of Orion's release of "The Terminator" was to be the first mass use of Dr. Cameron's work in a James Cameron film. The film was designed to imprint a subliminal message to unconsciously prepare the public for a higher form of technology to arrive on Earth in the future and if they didn't go along with it, they would be exterminated. Note that "terminated" is part of "exterminated".

While Cameron was unknowingly getting financing from the "consortium" for "The Terminator", he wrote two more scripts, "Rambo: First Blood Part II" and "Aliens". The subtitle "First Blood Part II" from the Rambo title was symbolic of Cameron's ascension throughout the York Rite degrees, while "Aliens" was being prepared as another step in manipulating the minds of the public with MK-ULTRA technology.

After "The Terminator's" success, Cameron directed "Aliens" and began production in 1985 in England. The film was directed in England so Cameron could receive the rest of his York Rite degrees in the town of York while on breaks from shooting the film.

Aliens, was the sequel to Alien, a 1979 movie about Earth explorers searching another planet for use as a mining colony. When they got there, they were slowly hunted down by the inhabitants of that world, which were acid-blooded creatures; insect like as adults, and as snake-like parasites when young that used the humans as hosts and eventually killed them by bursting out of their chests. Aliens debuted in 1986.

The film became one of the highest grossing ŒR' rated films and also won Oscars for Best Visual Effects and Best Sound. It was fairly obvious to anyone with the knowledge in this document that the fear and excitement generated by the sounds and effects of the movie was the result of mind manipulation for the purpose of further solidifying the fact that humans will one day face a threat from outside this world and force them to unify as one.

Once Cameron has finished this film, he had completed his York Rite degrees in Masonry and had moved on into the Scottish Rite. It's also worthy to note during this time in 1985 and 1986, 33rd Degree Mason President Ronald Reagan had made several speeches alluding to a threat from the "outside" that would unify the world.

Next on Cameron's list of films was the Abyss, a film about a group of oil rig workers who help recover a sunken nuclear submarine and are unknowingly being watched by another form of intelligence. In the special edition of the film, it was made clear that the aliens were warning the human race to come together as one or face destruction.

During the shooting of the movie, Cameron had been "trained" by the "consortium" in techniques similar to Dr. Cameron's "Psychic Driving" by pushing the workers and actors on the set to the limit. According to published reports, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio was pushed to such a limit that she now avoids Cameron like the plague. To this day, Ed Harris refuses to even talk about his experience with Cameron on the set. "The Abyss" was also the first movie with the "morphing" technique which makes a photo-realistic computer animation which was used to spellbound the audience. The film had also gained Oscars for Best Visual effects, more proof of MK-ULTRA now being involved with the addition of computer technology.

The film was released to the public in 1989. This was the same year as the swearing in of President George Bush and fall of the Berlin Wall in Germany which was a staged event by the Masons to prepare the world for a global coming together as one. The name "Abyss" was symbolic of Cameron getting ever deeper into information which is privy to the Freemasons.

In 1990 Cameron co-wrote "Point Break" with his third wife and Order of the Eastern Star member, Kathryn Bigelow, who directed. He became an executive producer on the film and the film was released in 1991 and went on to make $100 million and topped the video rental charts. Although the film was about a group of persons who robbed banks, a lot of subliminal imagery was added to the film, which explains why the film was popular.

Lightstorm Entertainment became a new production company created by Cameron and financed by the "consortium". The name Lightstorm was allegedly symbolic of the appearance of the Terminator in the films but was really symbolic of Cameron receiving more intellectual light from the Masons. The first film that would be produced by Cameron's new company was Terminator 2. Judgment Day, the sequel to the Terminator.

The title of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" was symbolic of the future war to come because of technology, to further embolden the public to a form a destruction beyond of their control.

The film also featured the use of computer technology to make a morphing character that would leave the audience with chills. The character was created at Industrial Light and Magic. "Light and Magic" is symbolic of the mysteries inside of Masonry. All of the revenues from Terminator 2, including the box office receipts, video, TV and merchandising made close to 1 Billion dollars.

More incidents of "psychic driving" had also taken place. One of them being an incident involving Edward Furlong, who played John Connor in the film, and lip balm. He was coerced by an under-cover "consortium" member to use the lip balm. After shooting a scene and congratulating Furlong for his performance, Cameron noticed the lip balm on Furlong's lips and yelled at him for screwing up the scene. After this, Furlong admitted in an interview that the incident left him paranoid about the rest of the shoot.

To some people outside of the "consortium" this mind control technology was becoming apparent and needed to be covered up. Cameron's script for the film was rewritten with some parts removed to conceal facts related to the technology. One such example of proof follows when describing Sarah Connor's treatment in the mental institution with electro-conclusive-therapy;

--------- SCENE REMOVED BY THE CONSORTIUM FROM T2 SCRIPT --------

INT. HOSPITAL CORRIDOR

Sarah, straight-jacketed and strapped on to GURNEY, is being wheeled down the corridor by Douglas and the other orderlies. Silberman is right behind her with the interns. Sarah's eyes are full of suppressed rage as she stares up and back at them.

SILBERMAN (to the interns) What's fascinating about her case is that the architecture of the delusion --

SARAH Don't talk about me like I'm not here. I'm right goddamn here!

SILBERMAN We know where you are,Sarah... (continuing to the interns, as before) ..the delusion seems to have begun with the boyfriend and then been adopted by the patient. He believed he was a soldier from the next century, send to protect her from a killer machine called a "terminator".

Frustrated, Sarah begins struggling against her restraints. Douglas, blocking the action from the doctors, casually smacks her solar plexus with his baton. Sarah gasps for air. Douglas winks at her.

SILBERMAN You see, it's all about machines, for her. We're seeing more and more of this new syndrome, a sort of acute phobic reaction to technology. It's a defensive response to the dehumanization of relationships in a high-tech world.

They sweep through a set of double doors. The doors swing closed into CLOSEUP. Big block letters stenciled across them read:

ELECTRO-CONVULSIVE THERAPY. Yes, they still do this shit to people.

INT. E.C.T. ROOM

Sarah's eyes go wide, clocking the sign on the door as she is wheeled in to a room full of ominous machines. Aging shock therapy equipment.

SILBERMAN Sarah, today we're going to be trying ECT...electro-convulsive therapy --

SARAH No! Don't do this. Okay, look, Silberman -- hey! Don't put that -- HEY!

She struggles vainly against the gurney straps as a NURSE tapes electrodes to her head. Silberman leans down to Sarah. The interns and the orderlies watch from near the door.

SILBERMAN Now relax, we're found this very helpful with problems like yours. Such as this feeling that you're being persecuted --

SARAH I'm not being persecuted, you fucking moron! I'm not a threat to them anymore. I told you. It's my son who's the target!

Silberman sighs. They finish placing the electrodes on her temples.

SARAH You've got to let me go so I can protect him! He's naked if they come for him now! Why won't you listen? You know how important this is?

The nurse sets the dials on the machine. Sarah starts to thrash now, becoming irrational. Starts shrieking at everyone in the room. She sounds exactly like what they say she is -- a whacko

SARAH Goddamnit. Let me go!! I'll kill you, FUCKER!!

She screams incoherently as they jam the rubber biscuit down between her teeth so she won't bite through her tongue when the voltage jump starts her brain. Silberman is smooth and cheerful as he turns to the interns.

SILBERMAN ECT is coming back into favor lately, and we've had good results with it. It looks worse than it is. As soon as the current hits her brain, she's out. It's a bit like punching the restart button on a computer when the program crashes.

He nods to the nurse and the current blasts through Sarah's brain, locking every muscle in her body into a painful contortion. It triggers an epilepsy- like seizure and she bucks and flops on the gurney.

SILBERMAN She's not feeling anything right now.

TIGHT ON SARAH'S FACE, contorted, jerking spasmodically. Then...

STROBOSCOPIC FLASH CUTS speeding up in rhythm, images coming at us like a roaring freight train:

TERMINATOR'S STEEL HAND lunging for her in the punch press. A CHROME SKULL, eyes burning red, a demon after her soul. STEEL FINGERS closing on her throat. Then... SARAH'S FINGERS groping endlessly for the switch to the press. Then...

TERMINATOR'S RED EYES filling frame. Lightning arcing all around as the press crushes the hideous machine. But even as it dies it has her by the throat. Even now, long after it's dead, it still has her by the throat. The lightning gets brighter and brighter... WHITING OUT FRAME

------------- END MISSING SCENE FROM TERMINATOR 2 ----------

Cameron's description of the ECT scene would not be tolerated by the "consortium" who funds Cameron. This scene was removed in order to prevent any person's who have been unknowingly affected by MK-ULTRA technology at the movies to discover that they've been mind controlled. This scene also made the "consortium" wonder about Cameron's loyalty to them.

In 1993 Cameron began doing research for a future project called "Titanic" which would fit into this pattern of mind-control and Masonic symbolism.

True Lies, released in 1994, became the next big film for Cameron. The title "True Lies" was symbolic of the inversion of words and meanings commonly found in Masonry to confuse outsiders. The best way to understand the title was to remember a phrase created by English Occultist/Freemason Aleister Crowley; "If you want to understand, learn to think backwards".

Symbols that appeared in the film varied from helicopters shilouetted against the morning sun so they appeared black as in "black helicopters" which have been seen all over the United States that year and the use of the name "Trilby" for the leader of the Omega group. "Trilby" was symbolic of the type of hats Masons would wear at many of their gatherings. A play based on a novel called "Trilby" was written in 1848 by a Mason, the same year in which Freemasons were nearly driven out of the United States after the murder of Albert Pike who had revealed many Masonic secrets.

By this time Cameron had gained enough momentum to move further up in the Scottish Rite degrees of Masonry to receive guidance and direction from an established Hollywood "consortium" known as the Hollywood Twelve. "Hollywood-12" was a mirror group for the U.S. government's Majestic-12. MJ-12, which was created in 1947 after the crash of the extra-terrestial vehicle in Roswell, New Mexico and designed to manipulate history to control information on extra-terrestials. HW-12 was originally created in the 1950's during the "Red Scare" and McCarthy witch hunts.

When the Masons and their "consortium" of psychiatrists first introduced the MK-ULTRA technology to Hollywood to prepare the public for extra-terrestials and the New World Order, it was determined that a consortium would have to be built among those experienced in film making to implement this technology and to keep it in the proper hands. All of this culimated to become Hollywood Twelve, made up of film studios and television networks. Among HW-12's members today are;

20 Century Fox, Universal, Paramount, Warner Brothers, Sony/Columbia Pictures, Amblin Entertainment, Disney, Orion, CBS, NBC, ABC.

It is the mission of HW-12 to use MK-ULTRA technology to it's limits in ALL entertainment mediums, including, films, television, magazines, computers and now the internet.

In 1995, the world saw "Strange Days", a film written and "produced" by Cameron and directed by his 3rd wife(now ex-wife) Kathryn Bigelow. "Strange Days", named after a "Doors" song was symbolic of the weird things that would be occurring from 1995 onward that would shape history toward the world government by the millennium.

The film was based on a type of technology called "SQUID" - Superconducting QUantum Interference Device. This device could be used to record human experiences on a CD ROM and play them back for later use. "SQUID" was an actual device created from MK-ULTRA technology to record and play back memories as well as for use as a "psychic driving" tool for mind control as Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron did by replaying his voice to mental patients to cause "de-patternization" of human consciousness and multiple personalities.

A lot of the SQUID imagery in "Strange Days" was loaded with subliminal messages which were inserted by "consortium" members who had infiltrated "Digital Domain" a special effects company created by Cameron in 1994. The film didn't make much at the box office and it was designed that way for the purposes of determining what kinds of subliminal images would draw a person to Cameron's films.

The negative portrayal of the SQUID technology was influenced by Cameron and the "consortium" began to see him as a problem that needed to be handled. It turns out that while writing and researching Strange Days, Cameron discovered the MK-ULTRA connection and read about Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron's brain butchery in Montreal in the 1950's and was horrified to discover that his great artistic talents had been used in this way. He would try to break away from this madness.

The next big project on Cameron's list was "Titanic". A culimation of five years worth of research, Cameron was finally going to make a film that would be free of MK-ULTRA's influence. Since "Strange Days", Cameron had learned that all of this time, he had been manipulated and controlled. by a group of "bad" Freemasons who work for evil purposes.

In order to understand this, you have to trace the history of the Freemasons from Atlantis. In ancient Atlantis, there was originally ten republics that made up the island continent located in the Atlantic. During it's history, a disagreement over how Atlantis was going to be managed split the Atlanteans into two factions, the Sons of Belial and the Law of One. The disagreement evolved into a civil war which led to the suppression of the Law of One, which emphasized spiritual existence, and the creation of a dictatorship by the Sons of Belial which emphasized materialism.

The continuing materialism of the Sons of Belial led to the creation of changes in the Earth's climate, via pollution and waste of resources and the eventual sinking of the Atlantean continent as described in many ancient texts, including the book of "Genesis" in the Bible. The Law of One preserved the intellectual and philosophical idealism from Atlantis and stored it inside of two hollow pillars they named Boaz and Jachin that floated away from Atlantis and were later discovered by ancient travelers in Europe. Boaz was the Atlantean word for "strength" while Jachin was the word for "stability". From the information found inside these pillars by travelers who were known as "sojourners", they founded the earliest remnants of Freemasonry with the precepts of "strength and stability" and passed them down through the generations.

As Freemasonry evolved into the 1700's, several members had quarreled with other members and secretly revived the Sons of Belial into their own faction also known as the Illuminati. Upon discovery, the rest of the Masons became the Law of One faction. Both factions worked toward the same goal, the recreation of Atlantis. Thus with the help of several of their members from both sides, including George Washington of the American Masons and Adam Weishaupt of the Bavarian Illuminati, they created the United States of America in 1776. Since then, both factions have two versions of the same goal. The Sons of Belial faction wants to enslave the human race in a "New World Order" while the Law of One Faction wants to create a "Pax Humana" or Human Peace.

The Sons of Belial faction are responsible for events that set back human history and creativity while The Law of One faction has been responsible for advancing the human race toward the it's ultimate goal, to rejoin the community of civilizations in the universe where humanity originally came from.

After breaking from the Sons of Belial faction of Masonry, Cameron was finally approached by members of the Law of One faction to help him create one of the most emotionally moving and popular film of all time.

When Cameron casted actors to fill the roles, the Law of One faction helped him find other Law of One members who would make the film a success.

Among them were Order of Eastern Star members, Kate Winslet and Gloria Stuart for the young Rose and old Rose roles. For the Jack Dawson role, Cameron had chose Leonardo Dicaprio, who is a Freemason. He had admitted to being a Mason in a 1995 German television interview. When the reporter had pressed for further details, Leo became uncomfortable and abruptly ended the interview. This was because he's been followed by members of the Son's of Belial faction and they've intimidated him into silence.

Cameron wouldn't remain completely free from the Sons of Belial faction for long. During part of the filming in Nova Scotia, someone had spiked clam chowder that was going to be fed to crew members with PCP. This had sickened many people, including Cameron who's eyes had become as red as the eyes of the Terminator. Everyone recovered but more events would take place. Another Son of Belial member posing as a Mexican mafia hitman had threatened Cameron's life on the Titanic set in Baja, Mexico.

The Law of One continued to help Cameron make Titanic into a "religious experience" and to serve as a metaphorical warning to the world of the consequences of the Sons of Belial faction taking over with their "New World Order" and moving carelessly into the future with only technology. Under the Sons of Belial, the population of the world would be coerced into slavery and finally destruction. Similar ideas of the choice between servitude or destruction have been placed in several Hollywood recent movies ranging from films like "Independence Day" to "The X-Files Movie" as warnings of the future to come.

The number of Oscar nominations received by Titanic explained the Law of One's influence on the "religious experience" side while the MK-ULTRA technology held by the Sons of Belial influenced the films subliminal imagery and created repeated viewing by audience members to the point of the film taking in 1 Billion dollars. The success of the film created a rewarding situation for Cameron who had now achieved the status of a 32nd Degree Mason and in August of 1997 he had married Linda Hamilton, who played Sarah Connor in Terminator 2 and is also a member of the Order of the Eastern Star.

The Academy Awards will be held at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. The building was built in 1927 by The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, better known as the Shriners. The Shriners are an organization which admits only 32nd degree Masons and was founded in New York City in the 1870's by American actor William Florence.

Upon entering the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, on March 23rd, 1998, James Cameron will become instated as a 33rd Degree Mason. The outcome of the Oscars will determine which side James Cameron is being influenced by in Freemasonry, the Law of One faction or the Sons of Belial and the "consortium".

This document is delivered by C.S.M. to bring the truth to reality.

Morning Star the Light Bearer

Very interesting post real6 Thanks

JAMES CAMERON'S CURRENT PROJECT AVATAR

An avatar is a computer user's representation of himself/herself or alter ego, whether in the form of a three-dimensional model used in computer games, a two-dimensional icon (picture) used on Internet forums and other communities, or a text construct found on early systems such as MUDs. It is an “object” representing the embodiment of the user. The term "avatar" can also refer to the personality connected with the screen name, or handle, of an Internet user.

Origin
In English, the word has come to mean "an embodiment, a bodily manifestation of the Divine." However, the Sanskrit word Avatara means "incarnation." The term is used primarily in Hindu texts. For example, Krishna is the eighth avatar (incarnation) of Vishnu the Preserver, whom many Hindus worship as God. The Dasavatara are ten particular "great" incarnations of Vishnu.

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/avatarcharacterconcept.jpg http://www.reelmovienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/421508987_837ce827e5.jpg http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/01/13/avatar-james-cameron.jpg http://z.hubpages.com/u/19752_f260.jpg http://www.avatarplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/fake_poster_for_avatar_movie_by_ludo38.jpg http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_4/AvatarMoviePoster.jpg http://avatartrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/avatarar_concept_art_5.jpg http://www.avatarplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/james-cameron-avatar-02.jpg http://www.avatarplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/avatar-alien.jpg http://sarahconnorsociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/340x6.jpg

joe2005

03-10-2009, 03:05 PM

10 years ago showed me a SER (FACE ONLY) BLUE NEON COLORS, VERY LIKE THIS PHOTO.
http://www.avatarplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/avatar-alien.jpg

mr_pixie

03-10-2009, 03:11 PM

Lol, that is funny :D

Why ?

beldazar

03-10-2009, 03:21 PM

Cos its Mounties other name :)

(well someone had to put him out of his misery :rolleyes: :D)

mountain

03-10-2009, 03:37 PM

I don't mean to bring the spirits down on this thread and guide it down a negetive path. But, unless there is some empirical evidence, or valid strong arguments supporting the subject matter. I'm not going to waste my time watching it, if its riddled with speculative straw grasps such as the information viewable on certain threads in this sub-forum.

So a question to the people that have watched the video posted in the OP: Is there any reliable theories that could stand up, that are not just subjective, dicey observations from someone who read TFOA and obsessively formulated some hairbrained investigative work?

Throw me a bone Stepford enthusiasts, this is your time to shine...

I understand your speculation my dear friend and its always good to question things and be weary of them. Its your choice whether you want to view these or not, ofcourse. :)

I must say though that alot of whats presented in these videos were very obvious and blatant, but that is me. I have done extensive research into this and sadly alot of Hollywood figures seem suspect.

mountain

03-10-2009, 03:39 PM

Hi Mountain :)
I'm sorry if those vids got burried over at Stepford.
I remember your post though and I think you got some comments about it...

I've only seen a few of them but it seems interesting so far. :)

Yes I know! Its alright, Lostworld, no biggie :)

I understand your thread is quite bustling with a myriad of people going to and fro. I thought that these vids deserved a thread of their own for discussion.

lostworld

03-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Yes I know! Its alright, Lostworld, no biggie :)

I understand your thread is quite bustling with a myriad of people going to and fro. I thought that these vids deserved a thread of their own for discussion.

:)

Absolutely, I did the same thing not long ago regarding Agent Provocateur and the New World Order. Some things just need a little extra exposure.

lostworld

03-10-2009, 03:51 PM

I don't mean to bring the spirits down on this thread and guide it down a negetive path. But, unless there is some empirical evidence, or valid strong arguments supporting the subject matter. I'm not going to waste my time watching it, if its riddled with speculative straw grasps such as the information viewable on certain threads in this sub-forum.

So a question to the people that have watched the video posted in the OP: Is there any reliable theories that could stand up, that are not just subjective, dicey observations from someone who read TFOA and obsessively formulated some hairbrained investigative work?

Throw me a bone Stepford enthusiasts, this is your time to shine...

There's that talk about evidence again, the same speech you just gave on Stepford. All the symbolism, witnesses and tragic fates of these people is evidence enough. And there's plenty of rapports and documents supporting these claims.
The Elite will never let you have the "impossible evidence" that you're demanding though.

On Stepford you said you like Freeman and Tsarion's work but at the same time you can't say, or prove, that they support more evidence than many of the threads here.
So it's all about your preference IMO.

infin8_possibility

03-10-2009, 07:08 PM

There's that talk about evidence again, the same speech you just gave on Stepford. All the symbolism, witnesses and tragic fates of these people is evidence enough. And there's plenty of rapports and documents supporting these claims.
The Elite will never let you have the "impossible evidence" that you're demanding though.

On Stepford you said you like Freeman and Tsarion's work but at the same time you can't say, or prove, that they support more evidence than many of the threads here.
So it's all about your preference IMO.

Thats fair enough, the things you suggest are strong arguments towards. Why do I have to say or prove anything about Freeman's and Tsarion's work in comparison to your thread? I never claimed they bring more or less evidence to the table than the man on the street, if you carefully read my posts, that is self-evident. I like their research, that's what I said... I don't appreciate having my words twisted and manipulated.

I've had enough of arguing with you LostWorld, because the more I do, the colder you get. I'm not going to waste my time or energy, I have more important things to use them for, not playing one-up-manship games with you. If you have anything more to say, PM me.

I understand your speculation my dear friend and its always good to question things and be weary of them. Its your choice whether you want to view these or not, ofcourse. :)

I must say though that alot of whats presented in these videos were very obvious and blatant, but that is me. I have done extensive research into this and sadly alot of Hollywood figures seem suspect.

Hey matey, Thank you for that post. You are always respectful of people's rights of free speech and don't judge, condemn or berate. Thats a fine quality you have there.

I know you have done extensive reseach, this is your area. If my post came across as aggressive, it wasn't - sometimes I just like to play devils advocate.

I will watch the videos and I'll let you know what I think, either privately or on this thread. :)

amethyst

03-10-2009, 07:23 PM

Thanks for highlighting these videos Mountain...they are very well done.

lostworld

03-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Thats fair enough, the things you suggest are strong arguments towards. Why do I have to say or prove anything about Freeman's and Tsarion's work in comparison to your thread? I never claimed they bring more or less evidence to the table than the man on the street, if you carefully read my posts, that is self-evident. I like their research, that's what I said... I don't appreciate having my words twisted and manipulated.

I've had enough of arguing with you LostWorld, because the more I do, the colder you get. I'm not going to waste my time or energy, I have more important things to use them for, not playing one-up-manship games with you. If you have anything more to say, PM me.

"I don't appreciate having my words twisted and manipulated" - well, me neither! :mad: And I don't like hypocrites.

Again, I will not PM you. You started this "war" on Stepford so I don't think you get to chicken out now...

In what way do I get cold? Just cause I call your bluff?

My problem with you is that you demand "evidence", here and on Stepford, and still you like the work of others who DON'T necessarily have to provide the same evidence! That's a contradiction if any...

Like whatever you like, but don't demand "impossible evidence" from Stepford and other threads here if you "like" other sources who don't!
Cause THAT makes you a hypocrite.

infin8_possibility

03-10-2009, 08:46 PM

"I don't appreciate having my words twisted and manipulated" - well, me neither! :mad: And I don't like hypocrites.

Again, I will not PM you. You started this "war" on Stepford so I don't think you get to chicken out now...

In what way do I get cold? Just cause I call your bluff?

My problem with you is that you demand "evidence", here and on Stepford, and still you like the work of others who DON'T necessarily have to provide the same evidence! That's a contradiction if any...

Like whatever you like, but don't demand "impossible evidence" from Stepford and other threads here if you "like" other sources who don't!
Cause THAT makes you a hypocrite.

I already said I will PM you with a response when I have the time...

I'm not going to drag a personal squabble out on here or any other thread for that matter. Cause thats all it is, personal disagreements between you and I.

lostworld

03-10-2009, 09:06 PM

I already said I will PM you with a response when I have the time...

I'm not going to drag a personal squabble out on here or any other thread for that matter. Cause thats all it is, personal disagreements between you and I.

You do that.

Again, if you attack me personally on threads here I think it's fair if I get to answer on the same forum. And now I have.

mountain

06-10-2009, 06:11 AM

"I don't appreciate having my words twisted and manipulated" - well, me neither! :mad: And I don't like hypocrites.

Again, I will not PM you. You started this "war" on Stepford so I don't think you get to chicken out now...

In what way do I get cold? Just cause I call your bluff?

My problem with you is that you demand "evidence", here and on Stepford, and still you like the work of others who DON'T necessarily have to provide the same evidence! That's a contradiction if any...

Like whatever you like, but don't demand "impossible evidence" from Stepford and other threads here if you "like" other sources who don't!
Cause THAT makes you a hypocrite.

Oh my, did I miss something?! What war is going on....?

Thanks to all of yall for commenting on this thread :)

I am still learning and I admit, these videos aren't definite just speculative from another fellow researcher's viewpoint. I intend to follow Esoteric Kitten because her work reminds me of the content on Pseudo Occult Media blog, which i find to be very informative.

kappasweet

07-10-2009, 06:31 PM

This is NECESSARY viewing for anyone who wants to understand what is going on with Hollywood women. Watch these videos and the scales will fall from your eyes. It may not be clear while you are watching the videos, but trust me the themes are recurring and blatant, you will spot them almost wherever you look. I watched the movie Selena recently and OMG and I had a totally new understanding of that tragedy, all the MK ULTRA signs were present, not totally sure if they pertained to Selena, Jennifer Lopez, or both. It is everywhere you look, and many of the symbols and signs are not so general. Watch the interview with the De La Hoya woman.

nectars

07-10-2009, 08:46 PM

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/201/1/2/fake_poster_for_AVATAR_movie_by_Ludo38.jpg

Now that is interesting.

"Prepare for a new dimension".

:cool:

mountain

08-10-2009, 09:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/EsotericKitten

mountain

10-10-2009, 05:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktg79Uwtgcc&feature=related

mountain

10-10-2009, 05:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSzkm6nZUg&feature=related

mountain

10-10-2009, 05:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqYfYSRZZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZifm-2p15w&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc8oFArgr2Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMXO99g52k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZMU8FZ9BU&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VKe334TdHA&feature=related

sithnemesis

10-10-2009, 06:16 PM

Brilliant find Mountain :)

http://www.zensory.com/ImportMedia/x/blogger/3483/716/1600/39343/mkultra.jpg http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o314/aptekachicago/MkUltraJan7th.jpg

dainis bophary

18-10-2009, 03:49 AM

sithnemesis

18-10-2009, 06:58 PM

mountain

19-10-2009, 05:46 PM

mountain

19-10-2009, 05:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJUFZ-X_R0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJUFZ-X_R0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJUFZ-X_R0&feature=player_embedded)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0g_MShg1HQ&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0g_MShg1HQ&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0g_MShg1HQ&feature=player_embedded)

DAVE CHAPPELLE... respect dude :)
Thank you :)
Yes Dave Chappelle is THE MAN!! I have a few videos of him I'd like topost...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwnpcnvJDlQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniNubupbQ4&feature=related

mountain

19-10-2009, 05:56 PM

Here is Esoteric Kitten's Youtube channel for those of you who cannot see the original vids I posted in the start of the thread..

http://www.youtube.com/user/EsotericKitten

mountain

19-10-2009, 05:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwo47XAEOX8

dainis bophary

19-10-2009, 09:52 PM

MK Ultra/Iluminati Branding (Tats)

Mena Suvari
http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2009/8/12/13/enhanced-buzz-22683-1250098864-8.jpg
http://www.joblo.com/moviehotties/images/news/celebrity_tattoos_1.jpg
3 on her chest, a lion and word, sound, power on her back.

So what do you suppose the tattoos are meant for? A sort of branding, a secret code perhaps? Would love to hear people's observations here...

I would say both.

"Trigger" Word, sound, power.

It means to bring something false into this reality.

Voice is our primary vessel for expressing and directing our will. Sound is vibration, one of the most potent and tangible forms of energy that can be applied to spiritual works. Even outside of spiritual and magickal works, words are a method of directing our will and expressing it to the outside world.

Words are a powerful method of giving an occult practice substance because it's energy that we are capable of manifesting naturally. The greater the intonation, the greater the frequency and vibration. This is why wiccans chant in what's referred to as a "cone of power" with increasing sound and frequency as a spell progresses. Similar practices can be found throughout most spiritual and magickal systems for the same reason. It's potent sound energy that is raised, shaped, and directed by the practitioners will. Hope that helps.

The Lion Tattoo could be representative of the beast inside of herself (MK sex-kittens cat alter programming).

More on the above can be found here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19099564/Occult-Mockery-Of-Police

dainis bophary

19-10-2009, 10:03 PM

http://aslcdn.celebuzz.com/images/2007/01/factory_girl_013007_21-thumb.jpg

Dressed like a Cat (Re: Sex Kitten).

kappasweet

20-10-2009, 07:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwo47XAEOX8

Yeah, I think even the media made it clear along the lines that the dogs were "just accessories." And as all accessories go, they were discarded after small dog season was over. That story about Jessica Simpson's dog being "carried off" by a coyote was laughable. And whatever Ellen was boo-hooing about, could that possibly be serious? Do the dog police really come and raid homes?

mountain

21-10-2009, 03:08 PM

http://i34.tinypic.com/16gafcz.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/24vmot3.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/23szv2u.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/14e8nk7.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2hn9jz6.jpg

Victoria Beckham has a similar one to Eva Longoria...

http://i35.tinypic.com/2zp2qug.jpg

And Brtiney does too...

http://i36.tinypic.com/166ws1s.jpg

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 08:30 PM

This is one disturbing M'Feckin' track :eek:

http://newsroom.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/russianroulette_515.jpg http://thebosh.com/upload/2009/10/20/listen_to_rihannas_russian_roulette/rihanna.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbc48xe20I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbc48xe20I)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbc48xe20I

Take a breath, take it deep
Calm yourself, he says to me
If you play, you play for keeps
Take a gun, and count to three
I’m sweating now, moving slow
No time to think, my turn to go

[Chorus -- JustJared.com]
And you can see my heart beating
You can see it through my chest
And I’m terrified but I’m not leaving
Know that I must must pass this test
So just pull the trigger

Say a prayer to yourself
He says close your eyes
Sometimes it helps
And then I get a scary thought
That he’s here means he’s never lost

(Chorus)

As my life flashes before my eyes
I’m wondering will I ever see another sunrise?
So many won’t get the chance to say goodbye
But it’s too late too pick up the value of my life

(Chorus)

http://www.limelife.com/R/ResourceModule/generated/rs_infphoto_1079195_w_201_h_300_w_300_h_395.jpg

The not-so-hidden message
Is Rihanna playing "Russian Roulette" with her new song? It's already getting some criticism, but we actually really like it! And the message of the song is pretty powerful, especially coming from Rihanna.

Rihanna's "Russian Roulette" is the first single off her upcoming album, Rated R, and she wrote and produced it with Neyo. The song is clearly about Rihanna's relationship with Chris Brown, at least in some sense.

Some of the key lyrics in the song say, "You can see my heart beating, you can see it through my chest/I'm terrified, but I'm not leaving/Know that I must pass this test/So just pull the trigger."

And, of course, at the end of the song there's a gunshot. We're left unsure about whether Rihanna has killed herself or Chris Brown. Um, in a metaphorical sense, of course.

Rated R is due for release on November 23. We're counting on Rihanna's album to sell really well, but she's also up with some tough competition on that date, including Adam Lambert, Lady Gaga, and Britney Spears.

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Rihannas-New-Song-Russian-Roulette/23893.html (http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Rihannas-New-Song-Russian-Roulette/23893.html)

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 08:47 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vWEkJwDUlf4/SH6eqEoUO6I/AAAAAAAAATs/QVretzmVETM/s400/rihanna_instyle_interview_61.jpg http://tattooloaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rihanna-tattoos.jpg http://federalfashionista.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/rihanna-tattoo.jpg http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2009/03/RIHANNA%20TATTOO.jpg http://worldentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/rihanna-tribal-hand-tattoo.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RMM5j0PrdB0/SdHepsA6pAI/AAAAAAAAA8A/VYA2gJD1MEM/s400/rihanna+tattoo+shoulder.bmp http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/242974752_1371d786b3_b.jpg http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/02/21/rihanna-tattoo_hzYQX_2263.jpg http://www.tattoodesigns.org.uk/wp-content/img/2008/02/rhiannas-pisces-tattoo.gif http://ohellnawlblog.com/newohnblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rihanna-shows-off-her-shhh-tattoo-2-400x495.jpg

dainis bophary

21-10-2009, 09:14 PM

Christina Ricci

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Celebrity+Tattoos+-NNzyInkf3Il.jpg
http://amygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Christina-Ricci-Tattoo-Photo.jpg
http://threadtrend.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/christina-ricci-penelope-premiere-09.jpg
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XZpR8PU7PPXEpM:http://widget.uproxx.com/b/3

dainis bophary

21-10-2009, 09:20 PM

Symbolic Meaning of Lion Tattoos

The fact that it is a nocturnal creature means that the lion is a symbol of authority and command over subconscious thought (as night is an ancient symbol of the subconscious - or dream states).

It’s interesting that the lion is considered by many ancient cultures to be a solar animal symbol, however it is primarily a nocturnal creature, conducting its hunting activity mostly at night. Further, the lioness is considered a lunar animal.

In Egypt, the lion represented the ferocious heat of the sun and was seen in the likeness of Sekhmet who is the Egyptian goddess known as the Eye of Ra. She is the power that protects the good and annihilates the wicked.

In ancient Greece, lions were identified with Dionysus, Phoebus, Cybele, and Artemis because myth indicates lions drew the chariots for these gods and goddesses. Here, the symbolic meaning of lions revolved around protections and they were viewed as guardians of the dead as well as guardians of palaces, doorways, shrines and thrones. They were also ultimate protectors of hearth and home.

In Hinduism, the lion is an avatar (embodiment or personification) of Vishnu.

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 10:36 PM

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 10:50 PM

http://www.shorthaircutstrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/victoria-beckham-tattoo-neck.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KZ5qdgu3avM/Sm8kp_uovjI/AAAAAAAABjg/YEkJ2HvIRF8/s400/victoria-beckham+roman+numbers+tattoo.jpg http://disturbinginfluence.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/tattoo-victoria-beckham-400a0611071.jpg http://www.beckhamtattoos.com/img/vbeckham4stars.jpg

dainis bophary

21-10-2009, 10:56 PM

http://www.eviltattoo.com/celeb/siennamiller2.jpg http://justjared.buzznet.com/images/2006/04/sienna-miller-star-tattoos.jpg http://images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/5345310.jpg http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/naridyard/SIENNAMILLERRHYS1231.jpg http://goremasternews.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/sienna-miller-in-gi-joe.jpg http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/imageBank/cache/s/Sienna-Miller-HUB.jpg_e_78137be33a967c29f10c2b17980b3f17.jpg http://fibers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dress-like-sienna-miller.jpg

Good find... A Bird, Three Stars and 883?

These sites are worth a read-

Occult Symbolism In The Number 12:
http://perdurabo10.com/id1812.html

The significance of the number 13 in occult circles:
http://www.helium.com/items/1524291-13-occult-magick-sigils-freemasonry-egypt-osiris-horus-isis

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 11:46 PM

http://mediatakeout.s3.amazonaws.com/photo/1210339100nicktattoo1.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/images/532158/0_62_tattoo_mariah320.jpg

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/images/news/1014mariah.jpg http://dc107.4shared.com/img/75894714/7c1f305d/Mariah_Carey_-_Greatest_Hits.jpg

the seeker

22-10-2009, 04:23 AM

Tattoos are hideous.

When I see a woman with a tattoo, I think "diseased."

astrochicken

22-10-2009, 10:43 AM

Tattoos are hideous.

When I see a woman with a tattoo, I think "diseased."

Not necessarily "diseased", but it is a total turnoff.

I must say the tattoos are like a red thread through those that have been
*reached*.. it's all stars, butterflies, alehp bais..

mountain

22-10-2009, 07:14 PM

Gisele Bundchen

http://i33.tinypic.com/11w6olz.jpg

Angie Everheart

http://i36.tinypic.com/25fhpvt.jpg

Lena Headeys

http://i38.tinypic.com/2q3cd1u.jpg

Avril Lavigne

http://i34.tinypic.com/2pqj3sx.jpg

Sarah Connor

http://i34.tinypic.com/ip6t1w.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/wv36g6.jpg

mountain

22-10-2009, 07:16 PM

Much appreciation to everyone who is posting and contributing to this thread :) Would love to see and discuss more!

It seems they love those li'l blue birdies (Project Bluebird?? :confused:)

sithnemesis

22-10-2009, 10:49 PM

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/images/tattooed3x/mirren-tats_10.jpg http://files.abovetopsecret.com/uploads/ats43262_helenmirrentattoo1x.jpg http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00609/Mirren_embed_180_609671a.jpg http://www.helenmirren.net/images/articles/bio.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/29/article-1050722-02744F8400000578-143_468x444.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/3/D/helen_mirren.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/01/16/helenmirren_narrowweb__300x427,0.jpg http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00443/news-graphics-2007-_443898a.jpg http://www.lamarsmoviepalace.com/thequeen.jpg

http://theenvelope.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-02/28017505.jpg

...

dainis bophary

22-10-2009, 11:02 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RMM5j0PrdB0/SdHepsA6pAI/AAAAAAAAA8A/VYA2gJD1MEM/s400/rihanna+tattoo+shoulder.bmp

That tattoo is a date in roman numerals on her shoulder… XI•IV•LXXXVI (11-04-86) which means the date is April 11, 86.

This has a very special and important meaning to Rihanna. It’s her handlar’s birthday(Melissa Forde).

http://o.aolcdn.com/dims/PGMC/1/294/-/80/http://o.aolcdn.com/feedgallery/fotosrch/0/20090617LRRihannaand_C__Peters_57715409_WI.jpg
http://getfreshdaily.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/09/melissa3.jpg

Interesting article.

Tell The Truth and Shame The Devil: Melissa Forde, Lil Kim and Oprah
http://aliyasking.com/2009/03/10/tell-the-truth-and-shame-the-devil-melissa-forde-lil-kim-and-oprah/. It

sithnemesis

29-10-2009, 09:31 PM

I just wanted to know if any MKU in her music video?

There is masonic symbolism in her music video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONnUBKcNZI

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONnUBKcNZI)

Best wishes
Aronia

...

mountain

07-11-2009, 05:10 PM

That tattoo is a date in roman numerals on her shoulder… XI•IV•LXXXVI (11-04-86) which means the date is April 11, 86.

This has a very special and important meaning to Rihanna. It’s her handlar’s birthday(Melissa Forde).

http://o.aolcdn.com/dims/PGMC/1/294/-/80/http://o.aolcdn.com/feedgallery/fotosrch/0/20090617LRRihannaand_C__Peters_57715409_WI.jpg
http://getfreshdaily.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/09/melissa3.jpg

Interesting article.

Tell The Truth and Shame The Devil: Melissa Forde, Lil Kim and Oprah
http://aliyasking.com/2009/03/10/tell-the-truth-and-shame-the-devil-melissa-forde-lil-kim-and-oprah/. It
Interesting stuff, thank you :)

I wonder if those other celebs with Roman numeral tattoos are significant dates to a handler, perhaps like say Victoria Beckham's...

mountain

08-11-2009, 02:26 PM

http://i35.tinypic.com/29esklw.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2l9ib6s.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/9pykjl.jpg

mountain

01-01-2010, 04:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD7Pr1F8jX4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U8JpooprT4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APP1OeA1I-Y&feature=related

sithnemesis

03-01-2010, 01:59 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SmIVLpin6jI/AAAAAAAATIQ/9OFVF4HF7Bw/s400/Sacr_C3_A9mentInspir_C3_A9e07.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SmIT8h2b66I/AAAAAAAATIA/OeRdHBqrKoc/s400/Sacr_C3_A9mentInspir_C3_A9e05.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SmITBOhmwMI/AAAAAAAATHI/N4tyZHWe4ls/s400/Sacr_C3_A9mentInspir_C3_A9e02.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SmI0yvBKQZI/AAAAAAAATK8/64QF87M8_Zw/s1600/lanvin6de.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SmJBayJzJ8I/AAAAAAAATPM/s6uH5Zh3NEA/s400/lilyne4.jpg

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/07/luciferian-mannequin-lily-donaldson.html (http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/07/luciferian-mannequin-lily-donaldson.html)

soulja

03-01-2010, 10:00 PM

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z242/sjashideout/kittycopy.gif
Painting is called ''Illuminati Kitty''

found it on this site
http://copronason.com/illuminati4.html

If you look at the prices of some of these paintings it should become clear to what kind of clientele they are sold.

here another painting from that site
http://www.copronason.com/images/illuminati/korin_lg.gif
''inside the circle''

Illuminati kitty was painted by Lisa Petrucci. Her work is full of MK and Illuminati lifestyle references. It's beyond coincidence. below are just some examples.

http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/045mondo_pazzo_08.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/012missmasquerade00.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/016missfrankenstein01.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/016killerklown02.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/018hatchetwielding.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/art/025shrinekitty_03.jpg
http://www.lisapetrucci.com/html/index.html

Cisco Wheeler:
Even when they got a hold of us in the first five years of our therapy, and they did get a hold of us, and they did torture us, and they did apply electrical shock, they did drug us, and they did rape us, over and over, they continued these things the first five years. Even after the trauma, it was still worth it. Because it was the first time we knew we were human. We had been so dehumanized from the trauma of the mind control, that just to have a spark of humanism, to really have the reality, "I am not a kitten." "I am a child, I am a woman, I was once a little girl."
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/ciscowhe ... an98.shtml

Beta--This is the second Greek letter, and it represents the sexual models and sexual alters that the Programmers are creating. The primitive part of the brain is involved in this type of programming. An early sexual abuse event will be used to anchor this programming. These sexual slaves will develop sexual abilities that are far beyond what the public is aware is even possible. They also receive the worst kind of abuse far beyond what most people’s imagination can picture. Beta alters generally see themselves as cats.

Marion Peck is another artist to check out.
http://www.marionpeck.com/paintings/gallery2/index.html

Same goes for Colette Calascione
http://calascione.com/index.htm

the intropiece on her site, roses, mask, 3 birds/doves in disney/bluebird style, a handsignal to her bros and sisters.
http://calascione.com/layout/home.jpg

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/previous/018.jpg
4-legged Psyche

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/new/a_010.jpg
Sleeper

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/new/a_008.jpg
coincidental gathering

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/new/a_009.jpg
dream of the hungry ghost

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/previous/016.jpg
bird girl breeder?

Or how about this one?
http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/new/018.htm

http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/big/previous/014.htm
alien abduction, another recurring theme with MK

also the masks, sex and goddess references, and the monkey who also plays a role in Mk, the two faced figures (multiple personalities), all that is worth mentioning.
http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/previews.htm
http://crossbreeddesign.com/colette/work/recent.htm

soulja

03-01-2010, 11:19 PM

Sas Christian
http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/sas_christian/01/_images/Amandaland.jpg

http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/sas_christian/00/_images/Dr.jpg

http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/sas_christian/01/angelofvengeance.html

http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/sas_christian/01/angelheart.html
http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/sas_christian/paintings.html

Alex Gross
http://www.alexgross.com/images/index/spacer.gif
http://www.alexgross.com/paintings/index.html
http://www.alexgross.com/mixed-media/index.html

http://copronason.com/images/illuminati/Poppyfield.gif
''Poppyfield''

The Flowers used in the movie and books, are also used in the programming. The witch uses poppy flowers to put the lion and Dorothy to sleep. Opium and cocaine are used to tranquilize Monarch slaves. An alter of a slave will get trancy when they enter the poppy field. (Heroin and cocaine come from poppies.) In the film, Dorothy says, “What is happening? I’m so sleepy.” She and the lion get sleepy for no apparent reason very quickly. Monarch slaves do the same thing. Waking up with snow in the movie is nothing less than an allusion to cocaine which is a common substance given to Monarch slaves to help make them dependent.

http://101smackdowns.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/poppy-field.jpg

Isabell Samaras
http://www.astrocat.com/samaras/images/paintings/wednesday.jpg
http://www.astrocat.com/samaras/images/paintings/Noble_Herman_small.jpg
http://www.astrocat.com/samaras/paintings.html

Daniel Martin Diaz
http://www.danielmartindiaz.com/images/artwork/BlattaRegina.jpg
http://www.danielmartindiaz.com/images/artwork/Illuminati.jpg
http://www.danielmartindiaz.com/gallery01.html

Kathie Olivias
http://www.miserychildren.com/miserychildrenimages/new7/cadmobgr.jpg
http://www.miserychildren.com/

Ron English
http://www.operagallery.com/artistes/english/2009ehr019n.jpg
http://www.popaganda.com/

greydove

04-01-2010, 12:41 AM

I could swear this was already posted on the Cobain thread, but it fits here.

Have lately started to wonder whether Alice In Wonderland was among other things, an esoteric vehicle for hypnotizing children who served the satanic elite!

What is the real meaning of the command "eat me, drink me" found on the little table in Alice in Wonderland? Games of blood drinking [mad tea parties], orgies [a game played with humans as props croquet], and masked parties where drugged and hypnotized children believed cats and egg men spoke to them...?? :(

From the references in pop culture this meaning appears to have some accuracy of which perhaps real satanists had been aware of all along. Marilyn Manson's album "Eat me, Drink me"

http://melbourne.diarystar.com.au/images/marilyn-manson-eat-me-drink-me.jpg

The painting below, titled "Eat me, Drink me" below comes from a gallery in Rome called the Dorothy Circus Gallery Looks a lot like the 'Mark Ryden' type of paintings.

http://www.dorothycircusgallery.com/img/exhibitions/Eat-me-Drink-me_200.jpg

Here's the description of the gallery:

"Dorothy Circus Gallery is a new space in Rome dedicated to "Lowbrow" and "Pop Surrealism", two of the most controversial, vital and exciting movements of contemporary art.

The gallery conceived by Alexandra Mazzanti and Jonathan Pannacciò is situated near a classic Roman aqueduct that provides the perfect location for the surreal-chic interior of the exhibition's space. Black wooden floor and walls frame the white wall, whilst protruding sculptures upon neo-Gothic arches contrast with the ironic pink in the Artshop and the Bookshop's coloured textures. These aesthetic games provoke and excite the eye, using the same weapons of these inspirational art tendencies. "Lowbrow" and "Pop Surrealism" are born from an unusual alchemical fusion, a multicultural mix in which memories of childhood games blend with aspects of noir carnival, reinventing an ectoplasmic reality that reflects the complications of everyday life. The confusing and hallucinated psychic automatisms of the surrealist movement are now mixed with the American hot rod culture, underground comics and punk music, creating a perfect chaos , where absolute iconographic anarchy reigns."

soulja

04-01-2010, 01:55 AM

I could swear this was already posted on the Cobain thread, but it fits here.

Yup you're right, parts of it was posted in the cobain thread, but most pics are gone because my photobucket accounts expired. More than half of it is new stuff though.

mountain

15-01-2010, 07:21 PM

WOW!! I am seeing these symbols and trends on alot of young ladies now - kitten masks and makeup, animals prints, red shoes that don't match the outfit and Snow White themes. SCARY!

I am hoping its a trend or something and not actual Monarch in your face but sadly I feel it just may be the latter :(

mountain

27-01-2010, 01:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVGXDmP59yQ

hannah50

28-01-2010, 01:51 AM

interzone

28-01-2010, 03:47 AM

Alrighty...just spent the last two hours watching all the vids in the OP. Well done by the maker, and much appreciated post.

I get everything but one bit. What does the "Got Milk" segment have to do with anything?

Personally, NOT a fan of any advertisement that has a bit of food on the face. So these sorts of pics always have a gross-out factor for me. :p

ETA: I'd like to see some MKUltra links to the OLD stars/days. When did this all begin? Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, and even prior (Clara Bow, Fatty Arbuckle, et al). When did it all begin? I know MKUltra did not begin 'formal' until the 50's/60's...so was Hollywood just earnest artists back then or no? How was control of content/personalities/messages to the masses, enforced way back when?

If we are to believe in the MKUltra Hollywood theory, it is my belief that the MKUltra controlled Hollywood began some time in the late 60s perhaps. During the late 1950s into the 60s the studio system in Hollywood was being broken down. This system had its stars signed to exclusive contracts that tied them to a certain studio, i.e. MGM owned Greta Garbo, Fox owned Betty Grable, Warner Bros. owned Bette Davis. There were very few free agents in Hollywood at the time and the idea was risky since there was less of a guarentee you would receive work. However, in the 60s things began to change and by the 70s the old system was completely thrown out. My theory is perhaps with the new crop of MK actors there was less need for binding contracts and extreme control of the stars through the studio system. Remember in the 1930s and 1940s it was very taboo by Hollywood standards for an actress to be seen photographed in public without makeup or proper attire. The studios required their stars maintain and uphold a certain image. There also much done to keep any indiscretions, affairs, shady dealings under wraps and only within the circle of Hollywood as to avoid gossip magazies and tabloids from knowing too much. Of course it is likely today the tabloids are more controlled by Hollywood studios themslves than in the past, so they print any positive or negative stories on their stars for publicity and sales.

Just some ideas I've been mulling over.

Of course, considering The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland was quite manipulated by MGM using weight loss and sleeping pills. These of course allowed the studio to control her, at the same time making her completely unstable. I have read before that the old Frances Farmer stories were examples of what was being done to form her into a mind control slave or at least a level of obedience. Not completely sure, but these could be examples of Hollywood forming and perfecting mind control techniques.

wolf367

28-01-2010, 04:05 AM

mountain

28-01-2010, 09:16 AM

Anyone see Baphomet's top half delving into her waistline?

Omyfrakkin gawd YES! :eek::eek: The red dress in her waistline YEP!
You have excellent eyes....

mountain

28-01-2010, 09:23 AM

mountain

28-01-2010, 09:29 AM

If we are to believe in the MKUltra Hollywood theory, it is my belief that the MKUltra controlled Hollywood began some time in the late 60s perhaps. During the late 1950s into the 60s the studio system in Hollywood was being broken down. This system had its stars signed to exclusive contracts that tied them to a certain studio, i.e. MGM owned Greta Garbo, Fox owned Betty Grable, Warner Bros. owned Bette Davis. There were very few free agents in Hollywood at the time and the idea was risking since there was less of a guarentee you would receive work. However, in the 60s things began to change and by the 70s the old system was completely thrown out. My theory is perhaps with the new crop of MK actors there was less need for binding contracts and extreme control of the stars through the studio system. Remember in the 1930s and 1940s it was very taboo by Hollywood standards for an actress to be seen photographed in public without makeup or proper attire. The studios required their stars maintain and uphold a certain image. There also much done to keep any indiscretions, affairs, shady dealings under wraps and only within the circle of Hollywood as to avoid gossip magazies and tabloids from knowing too much. Of course it is likely today the tabloids are more controlled by Hollywood studios themslves than in the past, so they print any positive or negative stories on their stars for publicity and sales.

Just some ideas I've been mulling over.

Of course, considering The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland was quite manipulated by MGM using weight loss and sleeping pills. These of course allowed the studio to control her, at the same time making her completely unstable. I have read before that the old Frances Farmer stories were examples of what was being done to form her into a mind control slave or at least a level of obedience. Not completely sure, but these could be examples of Hollywood forming and perfecting mind control techniques.

Hello and welcome to the forum :)
Thanks so much for this information, I had no idea but I kinda sorta figured that before. They say that Marilyn Monroe was the first Presidential Model Monarch but there may have been others before her.

Interesting you bring up Francis Farmer. A friend was telling me stories about her being forced into mental institution by her mother and being raped there and other horrid things. :(

mountain

28-01-2010, 09:51 AM

Some possible Sun symbolism here...

http://i46.tinypic.com/x2uzut.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2rm3961.jpg

Split personality symbolism ....

http://i48.tinypic.com/2dl0u88.jpg

mountain

08-02-2010, 08:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfH8UsfqPo0

wyndham

08-02-2010, 08:48 PM

...

No one can defend the system like the abused

mountain

09-02-2010, 03:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wBh35cio&feature=related

delamo1999

10-02-2010, 08:45 AM

What in the world is this all about? Avril showed up in this costume when she was a guest judge on American Idol in LA this season.

http://i48.tinypic.com/19ui44.jpg

mountain

10-02-2010, 01:24 PM

This has to be some sort of clear case of disassociation. Here is Robin meade, said to be a MK Kitten by others...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOcOActmys&feature=player_embedded

Eerie indeed :eek:

mountain

10-02-2010, 03:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffKw3_HNP64&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA2-WwrB58w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKv6LSzpX4o&feature=related

graflok

10-02-2010, 06:50 PM

Are all these videos exposing something or promoting it?

mountain

10-02-2010, 09:24 PM

Are all these videos exposing something or promoting it?

They are EXPOSING it... made by fellow truthers.

graflok

10-02-2010, 10:59 PM

^ I'm glad you're sure but I'm not.

delamo1999

11-02-2010, 01:44 AM

Some possible Sun symbolism here...

http://i46.tinypic.com/x2uzut.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2rm3961.jpg

Split personality symbolism ....

http://i48.tinypic.com/2dl0u88.jpg

I saw the movie about Frances Farmer and it really creeped me out. That mother of hers must have been in with the entire thing. In the beginning of the movie, they showed Frances receiving an award for an essay she wrote, indicating that she was really intelligent. Then leave it up to people in her life who proceeded to break her down.

Really sad.