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danceswithbunnies
15-09-2009, 09:04 PM
I was wondering if anyone had used energy medicine to alleviate or release trauma...i am struggling with some deep traumas and looking for a way to release it..

(yes i know about EFT which does not work on me)

I was wondering if anyone has tried this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Psychology-Interactive-Interventions-Lasting/dp/0972520708/ref=pd_sim_b_6

I have seen a naturopath recently about health problems and we spoke about getting some kind of cranial sacral therapy, but she doesn't appear to interested in assisting me in that direction...This is some fairly deep trauma i experienced as a child and i really want to release it.
(i get the intrusive memories etc..)

If anyone has anything that they have tried that has worked, i would be deeply grateful...thanks

rowan22
15-09-2009, 09:47 PM
I was wondering if anyone had used energy medicine to alleviate or release trauma...i am struggling with some deep traumas and looking for a way to release it..

(yes i know about EFT which does not work on me)

I was wondering if anyone has tried this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Psychology-Interactive-Interventions-Lasting/dp/0972520708/ref=pd_sim_b_6

I have seen a naturopath recently about health problems and we spoke about getting some kind of cranial sacral therapy, but she doesn't appear to interested in assisting me in that direction...This is some fairly deep trauma i experienced as a child and i really want to release (I get the intrusive memories etc..)

If anyone has anything that they have tried that has worked, i would be deeply grateful...thanks




Hi Dances. Speaking from my own experience of childhood trauma I would say that the reason memories and feelings keep coming back is because they want resolution. In my own case I realised that I had separated from my feelings about what had happened to me and repressed the painful memories along with them.

I had extensive Person Centred Counselling to reintegrate the feelings which I had banished to the dark corners of my being. It was a painful but incredibly rewarding journey of self acceptance my feelings demanded of me. And once I had listened and honoured what I had suffered the intrusion steadily subsided and moved into a feeling of first white hot anger, and then real aguish and finally a calm grieving almost like mourning. For me this was the way to respect the child I had been and to grow beyond the past and have a future which is fully connected to it but not determined by it.

linda28
15-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Hmmm I too have some trauma I am trying to heal.

Thing is, it takes time, and sadly, it might not heal 100% ever. But we are all different.

What helps me a lot is aromatherapy - I use pure organic essential oils of ylang ylang, neroli, frankincense, lavender, rosemary etc. They will uplift your mood and emotions, so using it over time, your life will get better.

Also, flower essences. You have the bach's star of betlehem for traumas and shock in childhood. It helped me some. Also other flower essences of mimulus and rescue remedy.

The EFT - if it doesn't work on you, how about singing mantras daily. You can get some cd with mantras - because they will purify your mind after some weeks.

And of course, make your system, body, strong. Do yoga and meditation.

You can maybe get something out of using in combination with these things - some gemstones of high quality (since they have the strongest energy). Like red jasper and tiger eye - to increase self confidence.
Also red or pink coral - as it rebuilds the emotional body.

To get rid of trauma - you must move on and forgive. Understand that it's all in the past and get some new personal power. :)
It's important to uplift yourself from old behaviour patterns and not be a slave to them, or what other traumatized you with.

danceswithbunnies
15-09-2009, 10:27 PM
Thanks rowan i will have to check that out..

yeah the intrusive memories..i try to talk them out and that seems ineffective..maybe i should stick with the white hot anger for awhile and let it go into grief.That could be part of the reason for the lumps in my thyriod...stuck grief. Usually people demand that i stuff the anger back down so that becomes depression.

Thanks linda,

Will try that as i like stones and have quite the collection.
Also have a number of Goldman CDs with mantras..might help.

I do forgive even though the people involved (my parents) have never apologized and in fact persist in the same manipulative type of behavior every single time i have to deal with them (over the phone)...which is what is triggering me.

So many of my closest friends have suggested cutting off communication just for a few years..
That might alleviate alot of it, but then i feel guilty because my parents are getting up there in age..but what about self preservation?
that is something i was never allowed as a child.

linda28
15-09-2009, 11:11 PM
I do forgive even though the people involved (my parents) have never apologized and in fact persist in the same manipulative type of behavior every single time i have to deal with them (over the phone)...which is what is triggering me.
So many of my closest friends have suggested cutting off communication just for a few years..
That might alleviate alot of it, but then i feel guilty because my parents are getting up there in age..but what about self preservation?
that is something i was never allowed as a child.

I have the same problem with my parents. It goes round and round in this manipulative behaviour and it makes me dizzy because I am not like them. I always put up with it, or not put up with it, but allowed myself to become angry and yell at them whenever they hurt me, but this is exactly what they want I think. So from now on I won't do that anymore. I decided to have very little contact with them. And I do not feel any guilt because of that. It's important to grow as a person, without their energy. Because if you then meet them again, you will see how you have changed, and you almost feel sorry for them. If you stay in touch with them, what happened to me for years is that I can never get rid of that circle they created for me. And you just have to make up your mind and decide you got other things to do in life and never wanted to be a part of their agenda.

Have you tried the Star of Betlehem in Bach flower essences?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy_advice/Remedies/FLOWER_REMEDIES/star_b_b.html

It can really make old emotions surface intensely, and then you release them and move on.

It's so dangerous if anger and bitterness takes root in the body. I mean to become ill because of a fear someone else placed in you is just crazy.
So the Holly remedy can help release the anger.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy_advice/Remedies/FLOWER_REMEDIES/holly_b.html

danceswithbunnies
16-09-2009, 12:18 AM
I have the same problem with my parents. It goes round and round in this manipulative behaviour and it makes me dizzy because I am not like them. I always put up with it, or not put up with it, but allowed myself to become angry and yell at them whenever they hurt me, but this is exactly what they want I think. So from now on I won't do that anymore. I decided to have very little contact with them. And I do not feel any guilt because of that. It's important to grow as a person, without their energy. Because if you then meet them again, you will see how you have changed, and you almost feel sorry for them. If you stay in touch with them, what happened to me for years is that I can never get rid of that circle they created for me. And you just have to make up your mind and decide you got other things to do in life and never wanted to be a part of their agenda.

Have you tried the Star of Betlehem in Bach flower essences?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy_advice/Remedies/FLOWER_REMEDIES/star_b_b.html

It can really make old emotions surface intensely, and then you release them and move on.

It's so dangerous if anger and bitterness takes root in the body. I mean to become ill because of a fear someone else placed in you is just crazy.
So the Holly remedy can help release the anger.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy_advice/Remedies/FLOWER_REMEDIES/holly_b.html


THANK YOU

totally relate..i am going to get some of that Bach Flower Essence next time i am out...they usually work well on me. i have not tried the Star of Bethlehem..or Holly..

How do you release those emotions?
(because i usually try to breath into them, and just observe, but they can stay stuck there for weeks)

When they call, it is a rough ride (edited...too personal) ...the cognitive dissonance is almost overwhelming.

You probably know where i am coming from..

There is so much stuff it seems like it would be hopeless to try to get to the bottom of it.

rowan22
16-09-2009, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE=danceswithbunnies;1271540]Thanks rowan i will have to check that out..

yeah the intrusive memories..i try to talk them out and that seems ineffective..maybe i should stick with the white hot anger for awhile and let it go into grief.That could be part of the reason for the lumps in my thyriod...stuck grief. Usually people demand that i stuf f the anger back down so that becomes depression.
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I understand, a lot of people have a real problem accepting that anger can be a normal reaction given the circumstances. Feelings can't (I feel) be controlled without some kind of backlash to your soul/system. For my own part as I say I have been through what I now understand to be a perfectly normal process of emotional resolution. Counselling with someone who you trust and feel a sense of connection with is well worth the emotional investment, even though trusting for survivors can be a big ask.

My experience suggests to be wary of anyone advising you to "be reasonable" the plain fact is that emotions aren't always open to being (made) reasonable and that is healthy and part of a movement towards being able to be happy. It came down to quite simple truths for me. On the one hand there was my life spent drinking and running away from my pain. A lifestyle which threatened my health my relationships my life.

On the other there was an, at first stumbling decision not to drink. Then to try and eat well, to exercise. Slowly I realised that the running from the pain was destroying my sense of self worth. Cut off from my hidden pain, what was left was smouldering anger and resentment and self loathing.

Anger at them, but I realised the most of the anger actually was at my self for being in pain. Pain which, because I had been abused by people who were supposed to be beyond reproach I had blamed myself for.

Since they didn't take responsibility I took it and deep down felt it was my fault. Counselling helped me to feel these feelings and to realise how fundamental these hidden feelings had been in shaping my view of myself and of everything else.

I've probably said too much. I hope it helps take care Rowan.

relax
16-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Meditation

danceswithbunnies
16-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Meditation

Yes... meditation may have exacerbated the problem...it helps to open the door to the subconscious. I was at a six hour intensive and i think that may have been like taking the lid off a boiling pot.

But thanks for the suggestion anyway.

danceswithbunnies
16-09-2009, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=danceswithbunnies;1271540]Thanks rowan i will have to check that out..

yeah the intrusive memories..i try to talk them out and that seems ineffective..maybe i should stick with the white hot anger for awhile and let it go into grief.That could be part of the reason for the lumps in my thyriod...stuck grief. Usually people demand that i stuf f the anger back down so that becomes depression.
________________________


I understand, a lot of people have a real problem accepting that anger can be a normal reaction given the circumstances. Feelings can't (I feel) be controlled without some kind of backlash to your soul/system. For my own part as I say I have been through what I now understand to be a perfectly normal process of emotional resolution. Counselling with someone who you trust and feel a sense of connection with is well worth the emotional investment, even though trusting for survivors can be a big ask.

My experience suggests to be wary of anyone advising you to "be reasonable" the plain fact is that emotions aren't always open to being (made) reasonable and that is healthy and part of a movement towards being able to be happy. It came down to quite simple truths for me. On the one hand there was my life spent drinking and running away from my pain. A lifestyle which threatened my health my relationships my life.

On the other there was an, at first stumbling decision not to drink. Then to try and eat well, to exercise. Slowly I realised that the running from the pain was destroying my sense of self worth. Cut off from my hidden pain, what was left was smouldering anger and resentment and self loathing.

Anger at them, but I realised the most of the anger actually was at my self for being in pain. Pain which, because I had been abused by people who were supposed to be beyond reproach I had blamed myself for.

Since they didn't take responsibility I took it and deep down felt it was my fault. Counselling helped me to feel these feelings and to realise how fundamental these hidden feelings had been in shaping my view of myself and of everything else.

I've probably said too much. I hope it helps take care Rowan.


Yeah, i would have said more too but it is better to not reveal too much because we are online..

And i can totally relate to where you are coming from with the drinking...i used to anesthetize myself too, i dislike the effects of most drugs, and alcohol was the only thing that numbed me out to the waves of emotional pain that were boiling up..

So you are not alone there, i think there may be alot of people that have suffered similar treatment, it may be instrumental in making these generations search harder.

Thank you again, and thanks for sharing..

danceswithbunnies
17-09-2009, 04:41 PM
I found something that says that they can CURE trauma.

Picked up a book by Peter A. Levine called "Waking the Tiger".


Here is his website..
http://www.traumahealing.com/somatic-experiencing/index.html

This is body centered therapy, and it is not necessary to dredge up old memories..This fellow says that Trauma is not well understood by the mental health professionals or medical community. Trauma is energy that has been frozen in the body.Delving into past memeories and talking about them simply re-traumatizes the individual...because what they are really seeking is somatic body release.

We all know we have 3 brains.
The reptillian-brainstem (instinctual), the Mamallian (emotional), and the human (rational) -neocortex

Okay so what happens is that when an animal experiences trauma, after ward there is shaking and trembling in a release of energy.
With humans this does not occur because the neo-cortex interferes with the process..so the nervous energy gets stored in the body which can go unnoticed for years..

By getting that energy vortex and activating it and renegotiating it by letting the instinctual brain and the mammalian brain do their job the trauma can be released..

Now i am not saying that THIS IS IT..but it sure looks like it is worth a shot.
AND he does have CDs that can guide you through the process, or you can see someone trained to facilitate.