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sidreighn

22-08-2007, 12:46 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have read about ley lines previously and how they ?? Energy around the world....

http://www.newscloud.com/image_files/story_17656.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Lightning_striking_the_Eiffel_Tower_-_NOAA.jpg/396px-Lightning_striking_the_Eiffel_Tower_-_NOAA.jpg

I recently stumbled on this, and thought hmmmn, electricity, massive energy, hits steel and thus goes straight into the floor....

This got me started....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Statueofliberty.JPG/288px-

Statue of liberty....made from copper, and also highly conductive, was a gift by masons to the people of america....(Does anyone know if this site is where lay lines converge??

Most churches are built on sacred Druid and Pagan sites, where lay lines converge, of, and on the spire, that regularly get hit by lightening, they thread copper wire to the ground to discharge lightening.

I am just curious if the power wielded by lightening if distributed, or targeted at specific sites on the earth could damage the earth frequency and field, and ergo us??

I know its random, but would any one be up for pursuing this with me? I need to find large phalic structures, to plot them to see if they fall on dragon/lay lines and then look into it further.

http://physics.syr.edu/~xxing/teaching/phy212/DC_lightning002.jpg

http://www.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/g/GrahamF/4.jpg

http://www.newscloud.com/image_files/story_17656.jpg

OH LOOK A PYRAMID???!!!!

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/monumentstruck_web.jpg

And another.....

Then I found this in one of Davids books: -

"Another key Brotherhood symbol is the pyramid or the pyramid with the capstone missing. The street plan of Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was killed is shaped like a pyramid with the capstone missing and Dealey actually means ‘Goddess Line’ as in Dea (goddess) and ley (ley line)"

Full article -

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret17.htm

Ley lines could be seen to be discussed in Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum, when the novel weaves telluric currents into the narrative and talks of ancient sacred sites as being transmitters or receivers of this energy. This is developed within the story to include modern structures such as the Eiffel Tower and linked to the overarching "conspiracy" or "The Plan" that underpins the novel.

Ley lines were also used in the game Broken Sword: The Sleeping Dragon, where a mad recluse and the Knights Templar try to gain power by standing at a convergance of ley lines, at the moment their power peaked and would surge through the Earth, into the person being there at that precise time.

Taken from Wikepedia Lay Line Info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line

lookfar

22-08-2007, 04:02 PM

Hi sidreighn

What an interesting thought!! I've been fascinated by ley lines for some time now & am currently reading "The Sun & The Serpent (http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Serpent-Hamish-Miller/dp/0951518313/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2658559-6969743?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187791412&sr=8-1)" by Paul Broadhurst & Hamish Miller about the main St Michael line in the UK, which I'm finding very interesting.

I wouldn't mind helping you out a bit with this, it'd be interesting to see what crops up....:)

eternal_spirit

22-08-2007, 04:46 PM

That's an interesting theory about lightning sideghrin.
Take into account other planets, the Pyramids on Mars, the sun and moon, astrological aspects and influences, these leylines literally go off planet. Mars Pyramid named Cydonia, it's not been proven if it is a natural mountain or man/alien made. But there is a Mountain in the UK, One of the highest named Snowdon, the mountain range is known as Snowdonia (Mars cydonia?) Could be a natural leyline energy hotspot. It's an amazing place you can walk to the top of mount Snowdon, I was blown away by the energy there.

lookfar

22-08-2007, 04:56 PM

eternal_spirit

22-08-2007, 05:02 PM

Hi Eternal

Interesting thought on a connection with Snowdon & Cydonia. I agree though, it is a beautiful & very energetic place :)

.................

It was cloudy when I was on top, hard to say if it was mist, fog or I was up in the clouds, would like to see the view on a bluesky day. :D Like it's been here to day since 7 am.

lookfar

22-08-2007, 05:08 PM

.................

It was cloudy when I was on top, hard to say if it was mist, fog or I was up in the clouds, would like to see the view on a bluesky day. :D Like it's been here to day since 7 am.

It was a bit cloudy when I was there too (although that's going back a few years now). Hmm I wonder if there's a constant cloud over the place??? Sort of makes it more mystical though doesn't it.

Hey don't rub it in about the sun, send some this way cos it's cloudy & miserable down south!!:rolleyes::p

logic bomb

22-08-2007, 05:29 PM

http://www.whale.to/b/belinus_line.html

lb

lookfar

22-08-2007, 05:32 PM

http://www.whale.to/b/belinus_line.html

lb

Cool link, thanks LB, I'll check it out in more detail when I get home :) St Catherines Hill is not far from me & a lovely place - nice maze on the top too :)

sidreighn

22-08-2007, 06:48 PM

I've overlaid modern and 800BC Maps of Britain over the lay line that was posted by Lookfar.

I will upload these when fully finished.

A lotof important cities have stood at some point on this leyline, I don't live near any of them so don't know the local are's, it would be good to know if there are more important site on these ley lines.

The lay line its self runs close to the M6 Motorway, I will come back with soome thing.

With the greatest respect, can we keep it on topice please other wise the thread will be lost as is the way....

Thanks very much.

logic bomb

22-08-2007, 08:11 PM

Cool link, thanks LB, I'll check it out in more detail when I get home :) St Catherines Hill is not far from me & a lovely place - nice maze on the top too :)

Oops that was the wrong link. Here is the one I meant.

http://www.whale.to/b/ley_h.html

http://www.whale.to/b/images/leyireland1x.jpg

lb

sidreighn

22-08-2007, 08:48 PM

I wonder if you laid the circle of life Geometry pattern in some ratio that these lay lines fall on them or through their key points.

The locations on the map appear to create a rather angular patter where as opposed to the circular patterned Geometry of the circle of life one.

It almost looks like (sorry best metaphor I could thinbk of) some "Geometry graffiti artist is defacing the planet.

More on lay lines here:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.simonthescribe.co.uk/articles/lilymapsm.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.simonthescribe.co.uk/articles/Templates/DragonLine.htm&h=322&w=250&sz=22&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=w7WNnwgpa28ubM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddragon%2Blines%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1% 26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN

lookfar

22-08-2007, 09:18 PM

Hi sidreighn

I think the link you were referring to back there was the one posted by logic bomb :) Wow, thanks for the other one too LB, excellent stuff honey :)

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished version. Am a bit busy at the mo, but will check out sacred sites etc along the line soon & post back. As a start though, the ones along the St Michael line (taken from the Sun & Serpent book) are;

Carn Les Boel
St Michael's Mount
Cheeswring
St Michael's Church, Brentnor
St Michael's Church, Trull
Burrowbridge Mump
St Michael's Church, Othery
Glastonbury
Stoke St Michael's Church
Avebury
Ogbourne St George
St Michael's Church, Clifton Hampden
Royston
Bury St Edmonds
St Margaret's Church, Hopton

mcmenek1

22-08-2007, 11:03 PM

As a start though, the ones along the St Michael line (taken from the Sun & Serpent book) are;

Carn Les Boel
St Michael's Mount
Cheeswring
St Michael's Church, Brentnor
St Michael's Church, Trull
Burrowbridge Mump
St Michael's Church, Othery
Glastonbury
Stoke St Michael's Church
Avebury
Ogbourne St George
St Michael's Church, Clifton Hampden
Royston
Bury St Edmonds
St Margaret's Church, Hopton

Hi

Yeah I agree with lookfar The Sun & The Serpent is a great book for showing where Ley Lines travel......this map shows the location of the sites on lookfar's list

http://www.mythospress.co.uk/stmichael.png

Love
&
Peace

lookfar

22-08-2007, 11:20 PM

Hi

Yeah I agree with lookfar The Sun & The Serpent is a great book for showing where Ley Lines travel......this map shows the location of the sites on lookfar's list

http://www.mythospress.co.uk/stmichael.png

Love
&
Peace

Hi honey

Thanks for posting that link :) Am juggling a few things at the mo & didn't have time to look it up :o There's one in London too, which I discovered from lb's great link... perhaps we could check out what's along it on Saturday eh??

EDIT: This is taken from that site about it:

The London Earthstars Ley
A particularly good example of a ley indicating subconscious siting is the alignment between St. Mary’s East Barnet and Pollard’s Hill, described by C.E. Street in his book Earthstars, and which seems to be an axis ley for his subsequently found star patterns, which indicate that the whole area of London was laid out geometrically, whether by human agency or by some other influence affecting human activity:

Some points of interest this alignment passes through are:

St. Mary’s, East Barnet; Halliwick Hospital, Friern Barnet; Muswell Hill; The Pavilion in Highgate Woods; St. Joseph’s at the summit of Highgate Hill; Pond Square, Highgate Hill; The United Reform Church, South Grove, Highgate; The Catacombs in Highgate Cemetery; Highgate Baptist Chapel at the corner of Chetwynd Road, NW5; The Church of the Holy Trinity, Clarence Way, NW1; Our Lady of the Halo, Arlington Road, Camden; St. Mary Magdalene, Munster Square, NW1; The Central Synagogue, Hallam Street, W1; The Queen Victoria Memorial Fountain in front of Buckingham Palace; Westminster Cathedral; The Church of St. George and St. Andrew, Patmore Street, Nine Elms; St. Peter’s Parish Church, Clapham Manor Road; St. Leonard’s Parish Church, Streatham; The Church of Immanuel with St. Anselm, Streatham Common; St. Bartholomew’s Catholic Church, South Streatham; Pollard’s Hill, Norbury.

What is immediately striking from the list is the preponderance of places of worship; the second prominent point is the immense variation in age and type of worship of each of the buildings. Westminster Cathedral rubs shoulders with the Central Synagogue as well as Baptist and United Reform churches, and no doubt the others represent various shades of opinion in between. Few would seem to have very many points of agreement on matters of religion, yet the proportion of modern buildings indicates the element of subconscious siting. All have been placed on the line for some reason by powers which for most would be unimaginable; there must be some common denominator which links them all. But if a single ley, even one as good as this, is convincing, how much more so is a centre - a convergence of leys on one spot, with a monument to mark it. It is one of these we consider next, which even more strikingly illustrates the ley system’s acceptance of many and varied places of worship.

In keeping with your thread sidreighn, these places could be checked out to see whether they have high spires / phallic symbols along them. The churches would almost certainly fall into that category.

whitenight639

23-08-2007, 12:06 AM

some people think the earth is hollow and some that other races live below the surface, put this together with leylines HAARP and chemtrails + lightning and it could be plausable that all this HAARP and chemtrails is to try sturr up some lightning to strike at key points and give energy to the people below??
just a theory.

sidreighn

23-08-2007, 12:37 AM

Hi honey

Thanks for posting that link :) Am juggling a few things at the mo & didn't have time to look it up :o There's one in London too, which I discovered from lb's great link... perhaps we could check out what's along it on Saturday eh??

EDIT: This is taken from that site about it:

In keeping with your thread sidreighn, these places could be checked out to see whether they have high spires / phallic symbols along them. The churches would almost certainly fall into that category.

Ah but for this we'd be better with local knowledge to make the most of it.

I will search as best I can, but I hardly suspect if there were man made grassy mounds, wood henges, stone circles, Druidic Alters etc. etc., they won't be anything other than "something thats been there for ages) locally.

I live near Alderly egde and there are some caves, where, back in the day, they used to do rituals and shit. Someone down south is hardly like to know about this, unless they either know someone up here or are involved with gnostic movements to a high level.

Similarly, I would struggle to find something, if I don't know what I am looking for, but one thing I can do is look at buildings certainly in the UK as most are well known, like all those in the City of London etc.

In Manchester city centre, the HSBC has twin obelisks on the corners.

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_Midland_Bank.jpg

SYMBOLOGY ON THIS BUILDING IS MASSIVE.

Can't see the obelisks?? Above the door you will see the HSBC logo, look to the ledge and slightly left, now follow the ledge to the right, again its there, with a cap stone.

There is aso a really nice Masonic Lodge on King Street MCR, the architecture is amazing. (I was going to post a link to this but found another interesting article on the free masons / illuminati, the pic appears to have an alter of sorts, again, are these sites on hot spots??

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bilderberg.org/18DEGREE.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm&h=1178&w=802&sz=85&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=5f_OHoouit8oEM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmanchester%2Bmasonic%2Blodge%26svnum% 3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26cr%3DcountryUK%257Ccount ryGB%26sa%3DN

http://www.bilderberg.org/lodge.jpg

lookfar

23-08-2007, 01:27 AM

I agree, local knowledge would be good, but there's still plenty of info to be found on the net. Just on a quick hunch, I checked out the Catacombs at Highgate Cemetery from the list above & found this...

Highgate Cemetery: London's Spookiest Cemetery

For a vivid contrast to Kenwood's genteel atmosphere, visit the nearby Highgate cemetery. This deliciously creepy Victorian cemetery has spectacular obelisks, catacombs, mausoleums and vaults scattered over 37 acres of overgrown woodland. Among the famous people buried here are Karl Marx, George Eliot, Christina Rossetti, Michael Faraday, the family of Charles Dickens, six Lord Mayors of London and the founders of many of London's most famous businesses, such as the venerable Foyle's bookshop and shoemakers John Lobb.

There's more interesting info here http://www.timetravel-britain.com/columns/london/london03.shtml

Burial ground, site of historic buildings and managed woodland. Features include bizarre Victorian buildings, Colonnade, Chapels, Catacombs, Lebanon Circle and Egyptian Avenue, all of outstanding architectural importance.
http://www.visitlondon.com/attractions/detail/149369

Plus, just found this guys pics on Flickr of Highgate Cemetry, which show the church spire in the background.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/castrovalva/106888914/in/photostream/

Haven't got the time now to check out the others as I've gotta get to bed, but will get onto it tomorrow...

auron

23-08-2007, 01:32 AM

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_Midland_Bank.jpg

I pass this building all the time. Quite a spectacle i must say.

mcmenek1

23-08-2007, 01:42 AM

Hi honey

Thanks for posting that link :) Am juggling a few things at the mo & didn't have time to look it up :o There's one in London too, which I discovered from lb's great link... perhaps we could check out what's along it on Saturday eh??

Hi lookfar,

Great idea it looks really interesting......if we find anything we can take some snaps for this thread......:)

Love
&
Peace

lookfar

23-08-2007, 10:53 AM

Hi lookfar,

Great idea it looks really interesting......if we find anything we can take some snaps for this thread......:)

Love
&
Peace

Glad you think so sweetpea :) We'll have cameras at the ready & go on search for some obelisks & stuff (& I bet there's loads!!).... cool!!:cool:

thirdwave

23-08-2007, 10:58 AM

those pictures are amazing lighting actually looks so cool!

lookfar

23-08-2007, 11:35 AM

Just found this about the Buckingham Palace ley line (which I didn't even know existed!) The map below shows it from St Edward's Brookward through to Charing Cross. There's loads of phallic stuff along this one too!!

Buckingham Palace
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/262/bpalatb9.jpg

Charing Cross Station
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7336/charingcrossgy2.jpg

Here's an interactive map of it...
http://www.ahsoc.fsnet.co.uk/royal-ley/intmap.htm

Plus The Mall, the map here shows the obelisks etc...
http://www.ahsoc.fsnet.co.uk/royal-ley/mall.htm

sidreighn

23-08-2007, 06:50 PM

Thats fantastic!

Wow there is more too this isn't there. The world live live in is then, by design.

I am going to keep digging, I will upload the maps as soon as I can, just sorting my web site out. : - )

Also, can us few moderate this topic ourselves, i.e. anyone gos off on a tangent can we politely ask tem not to post waffle and get back on it, I feel in this way we may actually get somewhere rather than having ream after ream of waffle.

: - )

Wit respect.

john white

23-08-2007, 08:40 PM

http://www.britishdowsers.org/

binhdinh_khiwarrior

23-08-2007, 11:41 PM

lookfar

24-08-2007, 01:36 AM

very intersting, i shall do alittle reasearch and have a look...

it's funny actually ley lines have been on my mind lately (specifically about some different but interconnecting reasearch i'm doing) and i was never that interstedi n them, until realy realy recently...

Hi BK

I came across the E Line earlier today, which runs around the world though the UK, Peru, Australia (through Uluru), NZ, Nepal & Mount Everest etc.

E Line around the world
http://www.goddardmultimedia.fsnet.co.uk/semg/roundwld.htm

Map of E Line with links for Nepal, NZ & St Michael (UK) line connection
http://www.goddardmultimedia.fsnet.co.uk/semg/eline.htm

sidreighn

24-08-2007, 02:08 AM

Hiya,

finally sorted what I was doing.

http://www.reefinc.com/images/Combined Old Map.jpg

The above map is "supposedly" roughly how our isle would have looked way back when (800BC), I'm unsure if the straight black lines are supposed to be roads or trade routes or small counties, or lay lines? Probably trade routes.

http://www.reefinc.com/images/Combined New Map.jpg

This is the lay of the country at the min, with the lines covering a number of sites of interest.

http://www.reefinc.com/images/UK Motorways.gif

This is a modern day map, as you can see, the M6 motorway runs along the lay line at the centre(roughly) ofthe isle.

I am more interested in the placements of these buildings, specifically the ones that have lightning conductors. It is these I want to see if lie on lay lines.

The maps are not the best quality, but you get the idea. :)

I have read about the Nazca but didn't know about this ELine, though on one of Davids videoe's can't remember which one, was long time ago, I swear I could see a superstructure under the Atlantic Ocean, angular and very deffinaltely about the length of south America. Thats close to Bermuda Triangle,

"Bermuda Triangle
One of this positions was held and which is in the area you now term the Bermuda Triangle and associated with the Island of Bimini. This was once a great city and was scattered in the great earthquakes and the land shifted.
A great temple fell under the sea. Its energy point is still felt. For the crystals still hold the energy there. It needs balancing again...and it is why many strange things occur in that point. Partly because some of the crystals where removed from that vortex point...and needs replacing back on that gridline or layline."

Source http://www.geocities.com/atlanteanacademy/atlantis2.html

I have found details about a church in france, this has been known about for a while, and I had read of it being built to face a particular direction but this infomation is good enough to go on....as the church is in france, the next step for me is to plot the lay line from this church towards the two earlier ones from the UK to see if they interconnect.

I think the best approach is similar to how the internet works, start from here and work our way out, perhaps heading in a direction each??

http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%20Gothic%20Cathedrals_bestanden/html.44.gif

http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%20Gothic%20Cathedrals_bestanden/html.45.gif

http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%20Gothic%20Cathedrals_bestanden/html.46.gif

http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%20Gothic%20Cathedrals_bestanden/html.47.gif

http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%20Gothic%20Cathedrals_bestanden/html.48.gif

Source File for your interest http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%2520Gothic%2520Cathedrals_bestanden/html.44.gif&imgrefurl=http://members.home.nl/peregrine/The%2520Gothic%2520Cathedrals.html&h=556&w=1066&sz=361&hl=en&start=8&sig2=WiEAX6na8XNgeLPB1pZRkw&um=1&tbnid=2FsrXVp1Xhn0aM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=150&ei=VSvORrvcDIuewwH95bGrAg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlay%2Blines%2Bbuildings%26svnum%3D10% 26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Now I need to figure out how to link the lines....graphically. Hmmmn. I need a satelite image of the church, can anyone help?

This cathedral is built to the Golden Phi ratio (The Golden Number) - now that I know this, I can use the following to possible hlp plot lay lines??

http://www.phimatrix.com/

Now I need a good image of the northern Hemmisphere UK France Germany.....

Cheers.

Never mind....thanks Logic Bomb, for the image below: -

http://www.whale.to/b/images/leyireland1x.jpg

I am going to see ehere the cathedral falls on this map. Will get bak to you all.

sidreighn

24-08-2007, 02:18 PM

Ok, this is where I am up to...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/83/Charlemagne_notredamedeparis.jpg/400px-

Charlemagne - FOUNDER OF EUROPE AND ONE NASTY PIECE OF WORK! This statue is found at Notre Dame.

king of the Franks and Holy Roman Emperor; conqueror of the Lombards and Saxons (742-814)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Charlemagne (c. 742 or 747 – January 28, 814) (or Charles the Great, in German Karl der Große, in Latin Carolus Magnus, giving rise to the adjective form "Carolingian"), was king of the Franks from 771 to 814, nominally King of the Lombards, and Holy Roman Emperor — Imperator and Augustus.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne

(742-814) Charles the Great. Son of king Pepin, he became king of all the Franks in 771. Waged a ruthless war in Europe against the Saxons, Lombards and Magyars. Ruled over over Gaul and Italy, and much of Spain and Germany. Crowned the first Holy Roman Emperor by the pope in Rome on Christmas Day, 800. His revival of the Western Empire was the foundation of the Holy Roman Empire. 'In a geographiocal and political sense, Charlemagne "made" Europe.' [PRS. RE. EI.]
www.embassy.org.nz/encycl/c2encyc.htm

768 - 814 CE - Charles the Great or Charlemagne was a charismatic and powerful ruler of the Frankish peoples. He was said to be very intelligent, aggressive, capable on the battlefield, and an exceptional statesman. Charlemagne undertook fifty-four military campaigns with the small Frankish army, about 8,000 men. ...
www.2ad.com/~john/history/unit2_defs/

[shär luh mAYn] Charles the Great; Carolingian monarch who established substantial empire in France and Germany c. 800. (p. 377)
occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/stearns_awl/medialib/glossary/gloss_C.html

['shär-l&-"mAn] (742 - 814) A Frankish king who became emperor of the west and founded the Holy Roman Empire. He is known for being crowned as the Holy Roman Emperor by the pope.
www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/dictionary/600-1450.htm

http://www.reefinc.com/images/European Leylines.jpg

This is further to Logic Bombs Post. As we know the patterns of Geometry are often symetrical, so I have used that as a basis to get started on plotting the course of the lay lines.

Please note the are I have circled in yellow, top right. This area is Kazakstan, if this lay line were in fact true, the line would pass through a number of interesting poins in that country:

Aqtobe
Orsk (This hold a lot of interest for me as on the map below a lot of lines converge at this point)

http://www.reefinc.com/images/kazakhstan_rel94 Ley Line.jpg

sidreighn

24-08-2007, 02:36 PM

Hi Everyone, I have discussed this project with Lime Lady, and she has agreed to alow this to be a research only thread.

What this means is this, should your post go off topic, it will be deleted, so if you are not adding your own research etc, please don't post as we do not wish to offend.

It is interesting to see if this can work, there is a lot of talent and technical expertise to be found within the David Icke Forum, all I ask is that we collectively pool our knowledge and abilities to see if we can progress this research.

If ever you have heard of distributed computing, I hope this will work somthing similar to that, where we handl a task in small clusters rather than one person doing it all.
Any and all help you offer in relation to the main theme "Large Phalic Buildings built on Lay Lines, with lightening strips to disperse the energy of lightening into laylines to disrupt their effectiveness" would be welcome

Peace - Love - Unity

sidreighn

24-08-2007, 02:40 PM

I have just noticed also, in logic bombs post, the lay line consists of a different star than the one found within Notre Dame, which is 5 pointed.

Can anyone with knowledge of Sacred Geometry tell us anything please?

Also, anyone with knowledge of the symbolism of either type of star, can you bring me up to speed please?;)

***CERN France Switzerland***

I am trying to find out if the massive Magnet they are installing at CERN in france is on or close to the lay line. I am fairly sure it will be.

Massive magnet, lay line.....electrical flow....as with Lightening. I have tried countless times to get a map via MSN maps and Multi Map, but both "crash" when I try and zoom out to a high enough view of Geneva. Can someone post me a map please for Geneva France/Swiz border....I need to see the countries from high up, similar to the scale of the lay line map earlier in the thread.

Google Earth doesn't seem to want to work ither, even if I uninstall and re-download, Theres no spy ware or viruses on PC either....please help.

Thanks in advace.

sidreighn

25-08-2007, 04:33 PM

http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-58995.html - Fantastic Thread about Paris Lay Lines.

This is what I found particularly interesting....

The Alignment

If one looks at a map of inner city Paris, it is not difficult to spot a long alignment of prestigious monuments originating at the palace of the Louvre alongside the river Seine, then heading towards the Concorde obelisk all the way up to the Arc de Triomphe on top of the Champs-Elysees. These spots are not only the tourist centre of Paris, but a significant feature of its mystic centre as well.

The story goes back to the Dark Ages. Around year 1200, King Philippe-Auguste had a castle built on the spot where the Louvre stands today. Officially, this fortress was to protect the entrance to Paris and house the Royal Treasury. In fact, the French Kings were shrewd enough to rely on magickal as well as temporal power, and the location had long been identified as a Cray, a place of mystical import, what would today be called a Node. The Order of Hermes helped supervise the construction of the building and in exchange assured the French royalty of a number of "services".

This arrangement worked as long as the line of Capetian kings did. When the direct line died with Charles the IVth, the Order of Hermes quietly retired in the secret rooms they had assembled under the palace and all existence of the Node faded from the knowledge of the French kings. In 1546, the upper edifice was replaced by a palace more suitable to be the residence of the French kings, but none of the lower installations were affected. In the meantime, the Hermetics determined that the Node lay along a particularly significant ley line, and that if the flow of Quintessence of this line could be focused, it would make the node all the more powerful.

The opportunity to bring this plan to fruition did not come until the regency of Catherine of Medicis, in 1564, when the queen regent, decided to have a palace built for her along the Seine, a few hundred yards down river from the Louvre. The architect that she commissioned, Philippe Delorme, secretly worked for the Order of Hermes and, although a sleeper, he had a great mastery of the principles of Secret Geometry. The Order of Reason finally realised this and had him eliminated in 1570, but the ground work for the channelling of the Essence of the ley line was finished by then. The palace of Tuileries was erected and stood there until 1871.

Catherine de Medicis was very close to her astrologer, Cosme Ruggieri, a man who secretly worked for the Celestial Masters. Before the Tuileries were built, there was in its place a small summer castle where Catherine liked to retire when she wanted piece and quiet in her schemings. There was a man there called Jean who slaughtered cattle for the royal kitchens. Catherine suspected the man of being a spy and asked Cosme Ruggieri to have him killed.

De Neuville, an assassin who worked for Catherine and Cosme, went in the man’s house one night and proceeded to murder him. When the deed was done, as he was walking back towards the castle, he thought he was followed. He turned around, and saw John the Scorcher following him, surrounded by a red haze of blood. He struck with his sword, but it was like slashing through thin air.

The ghost of the Red Man was born. It haunted Catherine and Cosme on several occasions, and made regular appearance over the centuries until the palace was destroyed in 1871. The Red Man seems to have always borne a particular grudge towards members of the Order of Reason and indeed, has been instrumental in preventing the Technocracy from wresting control of the Alignment in recent years.

The Order of Hermes kept control of the node. During the French Revolution, they went even deeper into hiding, not knowing who the forces behind the uprising were and fearing of being caught in the cross-fire of factions who, they suspected, could not be wholly asleep…

Once the dust settled though, a young and promising mage from the Order, whose name is now unknown to most (see Architects of the Essence) decided to further the strategies of his elders and magnify the ley line even more by establishing two more points of mystical significance along the ley line. Through manipulation and geometrical genius, the faction that would soon be known as the Architects of the Essence manages to have the Arc de Triomphe and soon thereafter, the Concord Obelisk erected. They were now in control of the most powerful node in Paris, if not in the whole of France.

From that point on until the late XXth Century, , the Technocratic Union tried to wrest control of the node from these Hermetic mages. They tried it by force, but were repelled both by the power of the mages they opposed and the assistance of several ghosts, including the Red Man and a ghost called Belphegor (who would become famous in the 1960s through a television series).

They then tried to pervert it. Baron Haussman, the prefect of Paris under the reign of Napoleon the IIIrd was manipulated by Technocratic forces, into destroying many places of mystical significance in Paris during the years he was in charge of Urbanism. He even reorganised the surroundings of the Arc de Triomphe into the current Place de l'Etoile, but to no avail.

During the uprising of the Commune in 1871, Technocratic agents took advantage of the confusion to set fire to the Tuileries palace. The fire lasted for three days, but the deep foundations that channelled the Quintessence of the lay line were mostly unaffected.

On November 11th, 1923, the Technocracy tried another tactic and tried to alter the resonance of the Arc de Triomphe by making it a monument to the death of the French soldiers. It didn’t have the expected impact. In fact, if anything, it fed the fascination for death now held by Antonius Block (See Architects of the Essence).

The technocracy was, on the whole, without success until the late 1980s, when they undertook a huge building project in La Défense, in a spot exactly symmetrical to the Louvre in relation to the Arc de Triomphe. The Arch of La Défense, a pharaonic undertaking, was part of the Alignment but designed to attenuate its flow, being "out of synch" and of an absolutely opposite resonance. In July 1989 after hosting the G7 world summit, the Arch was inaugurated.

However, the Architects of the Essence had identified the threat early on and taken steps to counter it through a design of their own. Through their strong influence with the Ministry of Culture, they managed to finance a project that would enhance the mystical weight of the Louvre and thus counterbalance the perversions of the Arch. This project was the Louvre Pyramid, an edifice made of 666 panes of glass, standing in the middle of the Palace and overlooking the antique museum below. Thanks to Master Qi Lan (see Architects of the Essence), the architect in charge, a chinese-american man by the name of Ieoh Ming Pei* integrated their design to his plans and the pyramid was inaugurated in April 1989, mere months before the erected the Arch was finished...

The Technocracy was thwarted once again…

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Can anyone help with a reasonable qaulity map Of the Genevea Swiz Border from a hight so we can read the towns and also see the lake next to Geneva??

Thanks in advance.

ah42

30-08-2007, 03:01 PM

Hi, sidreighn.
I have a particular interest in this subject as I have a connection with the st. Michael /Mary line which has been so extensively documented in that I was born on the line in Aylesbury, had my first holiday as a child on the line (Hopton) and currently live on the line in cornwall, all of which I only discovered after reading the Sun and the Serpent. If you are interested, I have a few thoughts on the matter. First, this line has several names, all associated with the mystical "elite" which is the subject of a good proportion of discussion on this forum, the most prevalent being the serpent line and the dragon line. It has occured to me that there is something sinister in the promotion of the book "The sun and the serpent" in that it is aiding in the association of the concept of a positive energy line with sun and serpent worship. Also, the names given to the line seem to be laying claim to the energies by the serpent/ dragon clan known as the illuminati.
The place which has interested me the most is Lostwithiel in Cornwall. The church, St. Bartholomews, seems to have some features which are directed at affecting the nature/ energies of the line. You can read about them in these links.
http://www.simonthescribe.co.uk/articles/Templates/CuriousFont.htm

http://www.fosb.org.uk/building.htm

http://www.simonthescribe.co.uk/articles/Templates/DragonLine.htm

Here is a more comprehensive map of the line
http://www.greatdreams.com/newline.gif

sidreighn

30-08-2007, 09:30 PM

AH42, Thank you very much.

I will read these links, but I am warring with paypal atm so my other activities are on hold.

If when you are done with the Sun and the Serpent book, I would happily swap for one on Sybology in the Church and ancient structures?? Will obviously swap back, it just negates the need to buy another book.

Book case falling apart as it is!:o

http://www.greatdreams.com/newline.gif

If the squiggly line around the straight line is the real lay line, this looks to me mlike an Audio wave. A wave imprint of a noise.

I am a music producer and I have long thought sound and sound vibrations are important in all this.

thoth

30-08-2007, 11:05 PM

Some of you have seen this already, but for those who havent, here you go:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172

Its a disscusion of the state of In-DIANA in America. Indianapolis, or In-DIANA-PAN-opolis, is the capitol. Diana as we all know is a very important brotherhood deity. This is very interesting work.

thoth

30-08-2007, 11:09 PM

‘Sacred Union’ between sun and moon, the crossroads of Ishtar, the raised platform. The other mound of great interest to Washington was the mound where the solstices and equinoxes are reconciled. The place where the Nations capitol currently sits.

These two mounds are connected by the path of the sun. The Nations capitol in Washington and the lesser Capitol in Indiana both complete with the ‘raised platform’.
The map of the mounds in America reveals the mounds that were placed in this path between Washington’s Federal triangle and the sacred union in Indiana.
(This is straight out of Egyptian Magic! As a matter of fact, I believe that the square on the map showing the inside of Indianapolis, is 6x6 miles!)

And so it was the Northwest Territories (originally called the Indiana Territories) was laid out with invisible boundaries, an invisible foundation, into 6X6 mile squares, measured out with a 66’ chain (Gunter chain).

The 6X6 square is known as the ‘Table of the Sun’ square. This was the foundation of a ‘special temple’ that Alexander the Great was in search of. This 6X6 Table of the Sun would become the foundation for the Indiana Territories, that sacred place, a special garden that was in the path of the Sun god and his consort, the ‘morning star’ – Ishtar.

This 6X6 square was used to comply with the serpent’s instructions to ‘make an image’. (Contrary to Gods 2nd commandment, “Make not the image.”) The serpent instructs man to make an image to the beast, whose number is 666, and whose number is the number of a man’s name (all men have the name of ‘son’).

A ‘graven image’ is not just a statue but rather the original meaning of the word was ‘talisman’. The 6X6 square is a talisman, (i.e. graven image), a magic square that has the ability to speak, to whisper to man, to give him all kinds of knowledge and power to rule.
This magic square of the sun, or Table of the Sun is a graven image of the Beast of Revelation 13, for the sum of this square equals 666 and has the name of man, the sun.

The exact location of the ‘sacred union’ of the sun and moon had been found, or should we say ‘re-discovered’ and this ‘sacred union’ was quickly enclosed with a 330’ ‘magic circle’ and declared as the Crossroads of America (Ishtar). On this spot they would erect the image of their god of earth complete with an ascending/descending staircase of 330 steps.

On top of these magic squares (talisman) they built their kingdom of 3 pyramids in replication of the 3 stars of Orion’s belt, thus a doorway was made from the underworld into the physical realm which was at the same time the celestial realm, unlocking the prison of the lower realm as well as allowing it access into heaven to make war, as if they were storming the Bastille in France.

From Egypt to Rome and from Rome to America the forbidden knowledge was transferred to the next kingdom that obeyed its voice. But with each kingdom they came closer and closer to completing the ‘Great Work’ and making this ‘teleporter of the gods’ operational.

By looking at the map of the ancient mound builders here in America (which no doubt were the original colonizers of this country) had the right idea but not the mechanical means to find the exact location of this ‘sacred union’ (Crossroads of Ishtar) nor the ability to lay out the ‘Table of the Sun’ (6x6 talisman) foundation.

Indianapolis (the capitol of the Indians) was connected to the Nations Capitol by more than just the National Road, it is forever connected in the heavens as the two Capitols connected by the path of the sun/moon. From the raised platform they gods travel to the place where the solstices and equinoxes are reconciled, that heavenly kingdom built in replication to the Virgo Constellation where they ascend back into that celestial realm to establish their domain.

Are these doorways for interdimensional parasitic cockeaters? I think so. Maybe more to this than we know!

lostinstrangeworld

31-08-2007, 06:23 PM

I am have become very interested in leylines, especially since reading 'truth vibrations'. I have felt I have wanted to take part in such healing for some time, but haven't known where to start. It would be really cool to eventually meet any like-minded people.....

I think the work you want to do is an excellent idea, sidreighn :)

sidreighn

01-09-2007, 12:27 AM

"lostinstrangeworld" - thanks for your kind words but don't thank me yet...thank me when we have something tangible to present you with.

I deffinately think there is more to the lay lines and I have found what I beleive to be a new one!!! (Some one please ask me about Italy, France, UK)

Again I need a map....but this proves my earlier theory about CERN in Geneva!!! Happy Days people, happy days!!!

lookfar

01-09-2007, 09:51 AM

I deffinately think there is more to the lay lines and I have found what I beleive to be a new one!!! (Some one please ask me about Italy, France, UK)

Again I need a map....but this proves my earlier theory about CERN in Geneva!!! Happy Days people, happy days!!!

Hi sidreighn

Great work so far and sorry for not contributing much this week, but I haven't had time for research. Will try to add some more next week...

Sooooo cmon, tell us all about Italy, France & the UK then....:D Does it go through the Le Mont St Michel & the Carnac stone circle by any chance???? Spill the beans!!!:D

sidreighn

03-09-2007, 01:11 PM

Still working on it and thought my argument was open to "interpretation" so I am doing more work till I am absolutely sure.

Basically, from the tip of italy through to UK many prominent cities fall on what appear to be a straight line, the varyence is due to scale on the map I was using, butr even then there appears not to be too much deviation from a deffinate line.

lydia78

03-09-2007, 01:11 PM

Hey Si :)

Here's the full article about the 'A Line', this is just up the road from me too!!

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/wandlebury.html

In the Gogmagog Hills, just four miles south-east of Cambridge there stands an ancient and colossal earthworks called Wandlebury Fort. Shrouded in mystery and now shaded by a canopy of trees, this most eerie place is a popular summer-time picnic area. Few people munching their sandwiches on a balmy afternoon pause to wonder why a group of men toiled countless years ago to create the great mound; fewer still know of the old legend.

Go to Wandlebury on Midsummer Night, if you dare, and in a loud voice exclaim: “Knight to knight – come forth”! A knight in shining armour will then ride out on his snorting charger and do battle with you. The story was taken so seriously in mediaeval times that the nearby university proctors forbade students from going to the Wandlebury site at summer solstice.

If there are ghosts anywhere in the kingdom, Wandlebury is the place is the place for them. Spirits of many a crippled warrior should glide between the trees, as they have since Roman soldiers trudged along the Icknield Way close by. The earthworks, called a “fort”, would have been used by the ancient Iceni people to command the high ground there. But long before even that distant time, when men were scraping fish with flint tools, there existed a group of people whose skills and knowledge were not equalled for thousands of years.

The history of Wandlebury earthworks, according to new evidence, spans not 20 centuries, but 50, and its original purpose was not military, but scientific.
For the past five years, Tim O’Brien, retired head of an international oil consortium, has devoted himself to researching the monuments’ mysteries. During this period, he has fed masses of data into a computer, and, after groping through the mountains of statistics gushing from it, he says he can tell us why the mound was built and, amazingly, he is “pretty sure” he knows who supervised the building of it 5,000 years ago.

The Wandlebury site seen from a low aerial view.

Wandlebury, says O’Brien, was built at roughly the same time as Avebury, the early part of Stonehenge, and hundreds of other ancient stone circles around the country. A lack of local stone near Cambridge obliged the builders to use mud instead. As with the other monuments, the builders were able to plot and predict the exact movements of the sun, moon and stars through the heavens.

But that was not all. O’Brien has stumbled upon evidence which indicates that the builders of Wandlebury, and other nearby earthworks, knew that the Earth was a sphere. Nearly 5,000 years before photographs of the Earth taken from space finally quietened the Flat Earth Society, these people knew that the Earth was round. They even knew, to within one per cent., the circumference of the world.

Tim O’Brien, at 64, is an unlikely scholar, though he studied natural sciences, physics and geology at Christ’s College, Cambridge. He was, until his retirement a few years ago, managing director and chairman of the boards of Iranian Oil Operating Companies. As head of this consortium, he had to advise the Shah and it was while he was in Iran that he developed a passion for archaeology. This new interest, coupled with his formidable mathematical brain, gave him a unique set of tools for solving the Wandlebury earth-works’ enigma.

He recently published a detailed paper on his findings with the awesome title “An Integrated Astronomical Complex of Earthworks at Wandlebury and Hatfield Forest from the Third Millenium BC”.

To research a subject requiring so much arduous on-site investigation, you need enormous reserves of energy and have be 100 per cent. Fit. Some of the locations which had to be visited would have daunted much younger men, but not the inexhaustible Mr O’Brien.

“You’ve got to keep your legs in order,” he announced, dismounting the exercise bike standing beside the vast desk in his office (a converted stable in the garden). Then, with no hint of breathlessness, he pulled on a pair of stout boots, and prepared to stride out into the country.

O’Brien and his wife Joy who writes poetry live in Thaxted, Essex, and their interest in East Anglian monuments began when, a few years ago, they attended a lecture in London about Ley Lines, said by the late Alfred Watkins to have been surveyed in prehistoric times. These lines were thought to be straight tracks connecting landmarks like hilltops, ponds, and even church steeples.

“We had always been fascinated by enigmas and ancient history, and after that lecture, we spent months studying the so-called Ley Lines,” said Mr O’Brien. “At the end of our study we had agreed that most of the lines were random. They may have appeared straight on a small-scale map, but on a larger scale they were not so convincing. We did obtain remarkable results when joining Wandlebury, through the gaps in its banks, to other known ancient landmarks, but ultimately we decided that they, too, were random…all except one.”

The chance discovery of one straight line inspired the O’Briens to follow through with a detailed study of Wandlebury, and their discoveries now demand a complete reappraisal of the ancient history of East Anglia.

Their line of great significance linked to Wandlebury with Hatfield Forest to the south, site of another great earthworks which they have now studied. Between the two earthworks the line passed through several well-known stone and earth landmarks in Essex.

Some of the rocks, though clearly shaped by hand, have long stared archaeologists in the face. As if mocking us, the stones have defied explanation for years, and no one has made a detailed study of them.

Plumb on the O’Briens’ line, for instance, is Littlebury Ring, another earthworks, close to Newport, near Saffron Walden. The line also passes through the Uttlesford Mutlow, an ancient local meeting place, Eight Wantz Ways, a forest clearing, and a massive stone beside the A11 road at Shortgrove, near Newport, known locally as the Leper Stone. There is no evidence of a leper colony ever existing nearby. O’Brien calls the stone the Shortgrove Monolith.

To O’Brien’s amazement, a close survey of his line (he calls it Line A), showed that it was not quite straight. It was, in fact, a perfect loxodrome. That is to say that wherever a person stood on the line between Wandlebury and another stone (the Priory Stone) at Hatfield Broad Oak, the North Star would always be at the same oblique angle.

Little by little, O’Brien began to put the jigsaw together. There were too many “coincidences” for Line A to have been a random chance. The Shortgrove Monolith, for instance, was not just “about halfway” between Wandlebury and Hatfield stone… it was halfway within an inch or two!

With his wife, he set off across country to look for more landmarks. According to his calculations (by using a lowest common denominator) there should have been 26 markers alone the line. These markers (he calls them “stations”) should have been at 1,430 metres intervals, and this distance (his megalithic mile) relates exactly to calculations by other experts of prehistoric units of measurement.

“Of the 26 stations which we think originally existed along Line A, we found evidence of 11 in exactly the right place. There were also several of the distinctively shaped stones near the line, which were probably moved by farmers years ago because they impeded agriculture,” said O’Brien. There is evidence in local records’ offices of at least one such operation.

O’Brien estimated that the chances of so many markers being in the right place by pure chance was many millions to one.

"Stations" in a straight line from Wandlebury to the lake, linked several well known Essex landmarks, including those at Newport, Shortgrove, Great Chesterford and Littlebury.

As O’Brien delved deeper into the subject, he was constantly reminded of the ancient scientists accuracy. They would have had only primitive equipment with which to do the work, such as plumb lines, artificial water horizons (needed to give astronomers a level plane from which to make eye-level observations of the rising sun), trestles and lines, yet they achieved amazing results.

Satisfied that his Line A was not coincidence, O’Brien turned his attention to the earthworks site itself. This began with a meticulous study of Wandlebury which he estimated would have taken 600 men at least 130 days to build. This archaic highway, incidentally, connected King’s Lynn with the ancient Ridgeway Path, straddling England and passing close to Avebury, Stonehenge and Silbury Hill (Europe’s largest manmade monument).

The survey showed that Wandlebury carved a perfect circle through the hill, save a corneal bump at one side. A plan looks like an eye.

The established view, endorsed by the Cambridge University Department of Archaeology and Anthropology, is that the mound was an Iceni fort, and certainly it could have been used for military purposes at some stage of its history. However, O’Brien believes that the accuracy of the circle is significant here. Warriors toiling for months to construct so massive a monument would have been disinclined to clutter their military minds with such geometric precision.

The earthworks has a circumference of 1,000 yards, and a diameter of 300 yards. The outer bank is now only 14 feet or so above the bottom of the inner ditch, but O’Brien thinks that when it was built the bank alone would have stood 12 feet high. Cut into the bank, and still clearly visible, are six indentations. The “dents”, O’Brien says, were used for observing the movements on the sun, moon and stars.

O’Brien’s calculations show that the ancient astronomers would have had a solar-year calendar, and a full19-year lunar calendar at Wandlebury. The odds against random chance have, by now, rocketed to 10 million to one, says the O’Brien computer.

The earthworks at Hatfield Forest including Portingbury Hills, and a large lake and ditch, also indicated that midsummer sunrise and other events were marked and observed.

The lake at Hatfield Forest, and the 50ft wide ditch emerging form it, is enclosed by ancient woodland and endowed with the same mystical atmosphere that exists at Wandlebury – not oppressive, but eerie. The lake itself was formed only 230 years ago by the damming of a stream, but one of its shores forms the continuation of the sweeping half-circle of the ditch into which the water has also spilled.

O’Brien believes that the ditch originally went a full circle, forming an observatory like Wandlebury, but half as big again. Around the lake are several of the distinctively shaped boulders found along Line A.

Line A itself passes through a corner of the lake and continues for a short distance to Hatfield Broad Oak, a picturesque Essex village. Close to the ruins of an old priory, O’Brien found his last stone (the Priory Stone) buried in the garden of a private house. The stone does appear to mark the end of Line A, but there are other lumps of rock close to all the Line A “stations” which also have geometric significance, O’Brien thinks.

If O’Brien’s theories are right, they would show that the surveying was done 2,000 years before Pythagoras. However, Pythagorean triangles (right-angled triangles with sides of a 3 : 4 : 5 ratio) figure prominently in the calculations.
At Wandlebury, for instance, O’Brien constructed the largest 3 : 4 : 5 triangle which could be accommodated, with one line pointing towards the summer solstice gap. The right angle was on his Line A, and to his amazement the spot marked by a stone set deep in the ground.

“This really was a thrilling and unexpected discovery. We now knew how the initial alignment of Line A was obtained, and that it was mathematically tied to the direction of midsummer sunrise,” said O’Brien. It meant that anywhere along Line A somebody could have easily worked out the direction of the midsummer sunrise.

There is evidence at Wandlebury of other small ditches. These, O’Brien calculates, were used by the builders as eye-level water horizons. Each of the dents in the Wandlebury bank has several astronomical purposes. From the exact centre, for instance, there is one pointing towards the North Star. Another points the way to the midsummer sunrise, and another to the lunar summer maximum.

The precision of the builders has helped O’Brien to calculate when Wandlebury was built. Because of the Earth’s lazy drift through space there is a minute deviation in the position of sunrise. The cycle takes 20,000 years to complete, but it gives experts a “clock” to look at.

Assuming therefore that the builders constructed Wandlebury so that the rising sun would have been exactly in the centre of the dent in the mound, O’Brien can say, to within 200 years, when it was build. “From our calculations we believe that Wandlebury was constructed no less than 4,500 years ago. That is about contemporary with Avebury and the first part of Stonehenge."

During his study, O’Brien has, rather like St Paul, sought to disprove, rather than prove, some of his theories. But as fact piled upon fact he found it harder to escape the conclusion that Wandlebury was a sophisticated, if unwieldy, calendar. It may have been used to calculate when crops should be planted and harvested, but more likely it was for assessing quarter days and religious festivals. A few surviving customs, in particular the old village maypole, may originate in local peasants’ mimicry of the wise men’s actions.

Intricate mathematical comparisons between Avebury and Wandlebury established a close similarity between the two circles which, O’Brien says, were built not only about the same time but almost certainly by the same group of people. Indeed, most of Britain’s monuments are so similar in design that some experts (O’Brien included) have suggested they were built form the same pattern book. A sort of “inspectorate of monuments” probably toured sites to check that the work was done properly.

It was the amazing accuracy of the ancient builders which most nagged O’Brien’s mind, in particular the precision of his Line A. This line, as far as he has ascertained, is unique.

“Had the old astronomers wanted just to know the direction of midsummer sunrise from anywhere along the line, accuracy of the kind they achieved would have been quite unnecessary,” pondered Mr O’Brien.

After long consideration he concluded that what the builders must have been calculating was the difference in latitude between Wandlebury and Hatfield Forest. The direction of sunrise depends, of course, on the latitude from which it is observed.

The original surveyors would have had a system for measuring circles, and indeed there is evidence of some ancient races having used the same 360-degree system that is used today. Assuming that they used a 360-degree circle they would have calculated a difference in latitude between the points of 0.299°.

They would have known already the exact distance on the ground along Line A, and so the sagacious builders would have had to do some fairly simple multiplication (Line A distance time 360/0.299) to obtain the polar circumference of Earth.

O’Brien has done his arithmetic and found that they would have been no more than one per cent. out, a matter of a few miles. His views will not please archaeologists, some of whom would prefer the monuments to go away (there being so little about them that can be certain).

Several established experts in the history of astronomy have studied O’Brien’s paper, but most are reserving judgement, preferring to think it over. As Archie Roy, Professor of Astronomy at Glasgow University, said after reading the paper: “The conclusions are so astounding that one immediately has to step back, look again, and ask, ‘Can this really be so?’ Had he written this paper 20 years ago, people would have laughed at it, but recent studies have revealed a picture of an elite in Britain who seem to have run the country.

“No equivalent to his Line A has been found so far, but that does not mean one does not exist. I don’t see why, if it was built by them, it could not have been straight. The Chinese in the 11th century AD surveyed from a straight line 3,000 kilometres long. However, in the absence of a more convincing explanation, this conclusion also has to be taken very seriously.”

O’Brien was delighted with Professor Roy’s comments. “I am very flattered that he was taken the trouble to read my paper. My explanation for Line A being a loxodrome would be that builders, for some unexplained reason, wanted to achieve an amazing degree of accuracy, which they would not have got had the line been straight.”

However, not all experts are quite so charitable as Professor Roy. One man who has spent many years studying and writing about Britain’s heritage of megalithic observatories is Professor Alexander Thom, former Professor of Engineering Science at Oxford University. He says he is not yet persuaded that Wandlebury is anything but an Iron Age fort.

He said: “I have some doubts and am going slow on this. Why use this method for measuring the earth? Early people, in China and Egypt, for instance, mostly had recourse to measuring the sun’s altitude at midsummer stations far apart but on the same meridian.”

Glyn Daniel, Professor of Archaeology at Cambridge University, thought O’Brien’s paper was “nonsense”. He said, “I can find nothing in it to make me revise my views on Wandlebury.”

If Tim O’Brien ha a fault, it is his innocent assumption that we are all as clever as he is, though he would be terribly embarrassed if he knew that he were talking above our heads. He is a most placid man, but becomes agitated when the topic of archaeologists and historians is raised.

“Unfortunately, there is a tendency among pre-historians to label as ‘religious’ or ‘cultic’ all artefacts that cannot be clearly defined a secular – thus all pot-bellied female figurines become fertility goddesses, and all-important building foundations that cannot be shown to be dwelling places are invariably said to be temples or shrines.”

Many of these objects, even those as massive as Wandlebury, may well have been built for purely practical use. The fact that midsummer rites may have been danced there during the Middle Ages does not affect their original purpose.

Joy O’Brien’s life revolves round her poetry, her husband and her belief in his work. She says: “This study is very important. If these findings are correct they open the doors of time, and make sense of much that seems nonsense in history. They draw together many mysteries. By lighting up the past, this information could help us in the future”.

For O’Brien himself the work goes on: “The astronomically aligned earthworks and megalithic erections at Stonehenge, the Cyclopean earthworks at Silbury Hill and Avebury, and the solar and lunar observatory at Wandlebury are, quite simply, ‘there’ – monuments to the technical expertise of a culture which, according to traditional archaeological thinking, never existed, although the monuments have survived for nearly 5,000 years.

“There is no written evidence nor any substantial oral tradition in Britain concerning the builders of our megalithic monument, which is why our pre-historians have largely neglected this important quest.

“The search for these builders is more important than repetitive surveys of the stones they left behind. If we find them we should find also the inspiration behind the development of Western Civilisation.”

sidreighn

03-09-2007, 01:17 PM

Thanks you, just about 2/3rds through the original link you sent me. : - )

Good stuff ta.

Keep up the good work.

None of these ancient structures apear phalic, or conductive, but if this "lay line" knowledge has been revised year on year, I see it as a "technology", and thus, modern lay lines very much work in progress by the elite. ;)

Perhaps lay lines are like rivers of energy, can engineers not stear rivers by desighn?? Perhaps its possible to shift the flow of energy too?? Just a thought.;)

simonthescribe

05-09-2007, 10:30 AM

lookfar

05-09-2007, 10:41 AM

sidreighn

05-09-2007, 03:42 PM

Most interested in this strand and happy to be included - I am presently working on a novel on this very topic. Have been mapping ley lines round Lostwithiel in Cornwall and found a 123 foot obelisk placed exactly on the line - see it at:
http://www.boconnocenterprises.co.uk/history.html
These edifices would be conductive since they would include lightening conductors, very much like the many church towers placed along ley lines in Cornwall. Am I right in thinking that although lightening appears to 'come down' the energy actually discharges upwards? This might have the effect of emptying the 'line' of any energy.
I also note that many miles of electricity pylons, and supply, follow the ley lines in this part of Cornwall until they disappear into the dug-up clay mining country.

Hi Simon,

I have read your web site with interest though I do not get much time these days to re-visit as I am busy with my own site.

My intial thought was that these Dragon lines have been surpressed by the powers that be, and have long known about the negative energies of pylons etc, but it never occurred to me these lines could be having their power asperated.

I am also convinced, that the george and the dragon story of English legend is pure reversed symbology. I suspect this sybolises the establishments murder of these powerful energy lines! This is typical to con society into celebrating something detrimental.

Do you think its possibl to find an "un-tapped" dragon line any where?? I read that many years ago, around a famous dragon line near Avalon, that people used to walk its entire spiral length to absorb some form of energy, have you heard of this and is it possible to find a dragon line to walk??

In the interest of keeping this away from the establishment, if you do happen to know of one, would you be kind enough to PM me??

How interesting that the dragon lines could be getting vented, discharging the energy they posses into the atmosphere!!

It seems we have similar thoughts, I would be interested to read any further informtion you have. If I can be of assistance in any way, please contact me.

I had suspected the lay lines were being destroyed and I am conCERNed about CERN on the Geneva/Switerland Border.

http://www.reefinc.com/images/European%20Leylines.jpg

http://www.reefinc.com/images/Cern on Lay Line.jpg

My graphic wizardry is cack, but you get the idea. Cern is a Large Hydron Collider of particles, they are apparantly looking for the god molecule the Higgs Bosson, please see the following article for more information: -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3546973.stm

CERN information http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2007/PR06.07E.html

What worries me is this, this "experiment" is largely theorised, and they are placing MASSIVELY powerfull magnets on a lay line?? This I suspect id not good news! Perhaps these lines are the "Life blood" of earth, and if you know about old earth religions, Mother Earth is in essence god herself, creation.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/Images/CERNLogo.gif Cerns logo is a 666 too??? Does anyone get a bad vibe about this??

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PhotoDatabase/views.jpg
27 Miles in circumference....in numerology 27 = 2+9 = Signifies completion, a full cycle.

Good stuff.

Sid

simonthescribe

06-09-2007, 03:08 PM

lookfar

06-09-2007, 03:18 PM

Hey its good to find you all discussing this. Thanks for the welcome, the information and the inspiration, which has kick-started me into writing more of the second novel in my trilogy about the Michael and Mary line. The first episode is published with lulu.com and if you are into self-publishing I can strongly recommend this as a route to publish your own books. Because I’ve written about 1500 words on ‘The Ley lines of Cornwall’ today and I don’t want search engines to find it yet, I’ve published this as a PDF download – please help yourself at: http://www.simonthescribe.co.uk/CRANTIP/posttoicke.PDF

I think what has happened with global brainwashing certainly goes beyond conspiracy theories and regard Icke’s ‘Robot’s Rebellion’ as a key text on this. I suspect stuff at Cerne is just the tip of the iceberg! Keep up the good work!

simon

Hi Simon

Hey I love your avatar, very Green Man!!:) :cool:

Good to hear that you're progressing well with your writing too and thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out later (am still at work at the mo!)

Yeah let's keep this thread going, there's some excellent info coming out of it & loads more to be revealed. I'm gonna check into the Dragon Line stuff a bit tonight if I get chance...

Take care

thoth

06-09-2007, 03:54 PM

I dont think you guys understand all the things they can do with ley lines and vortex points. These points are aleady bringing higher dimensional as well as filtering out lower frequency energies. These can be doorways as well as points where energy filters out to us! Much like electrical wiring. All one would need is to have some bad things happen in these places to resonate that energy out towards us, and at the same time feed what other demons, jinn, or reptilians nasties on the other side.

ah42

06-09-2007, 04:43 PM

Most interested in this strand and happy to be included - I am presently working on a novel on this very topic. Have been mapping ley lines round Lostwithiel in Cornwall and found a 123 foot obelisk placed exactly on the line - see it at:
http://www.boconnocenterprises.co.uk/history.html
These edifices would be conductive since they would include lightening conductors, very much like the many church towers placed along ley lines in Cornwall. Am I right in thinking that although lightening appears to 'come down' the energy actually discharges upwards? This might have the effect of emptying the 'line' of any energy.
I also note that many miles of electricity pylons, and supply, follow the ley lines in this part of Cornwall until they disappear into the dug-up clay mining country.

Hi, Simon.
You are correct in that lightening is actually a discharge caused by the meeting of oppositely charged electrical energies from both the ground and the atmosphere. This would have the effect of removing some energies from the lines, and it would only affect the local area as the main energies would recoup and continue to flow. But it would also have the effect of adding atmospheric energy to the line during the exchange, therefore not so much removing the energy, but changing it. It has occured to me that the point of putting these structures on the lines is an attempt to manipulate the energy rather than dissipate it. This is why so many churches are built around them, in order to input atmospheric energies, which are chaotic, into the structure instead of the earth energies which are grounded and consistent. Also, as the reasons for a lot of activities by the ptb is multi levelled, the chaotic energies can be used to confuse the congregations in order for them to be open to accepting the messages handed down to them from the pulpit making the people a conduit for transfer of manipulated controling energy to the leyline and the wider community into which they will then return.
As for the obelisks,which are phallic structures representing male dominant and aggressive energy, their main contribution to the energetic transfer would be to input that male energy into the predominantly feminine earth energies at specific points or nodes, therefore weakening the nurturing grounding effect of the earth energies naturally found at these points. This, it seems to me is why the ancients built stone circles on the lines in order to nurture the feminine energy, as circles are feminine in nature. Have you noticed the destruction of the Cornish stone circles? 150 have apparently been found on bodmin moor alone, most of which have been destroyed or at least damaged by farming and mining activities. And what about the huge obelisk that overlooks Bodmin. Do you know anything about that? I haven't had time to look into it, but it seems a bit dominant for it to be placed there for no reason.
Appologies if I come across as mad or ranting:D, these are just some of my thoughts on the subject having read most of David ickes work. I posted your articles as I have seen very little information on St. Barts and found it very interesting. As a fellow Lostwithiel resident I am sure there is far more to research about this place and I am looking foreward to finding the time to do so.

ah42

06-09-2007, 04:52 PM

Hi Simon,

I have read your web site with interest though I do not get much time these days to re-visit as I am busy with my own site.

My intial thought was that these Dragon lines have been surpressed by the powers that be, and have long known about the negative energies of pylons etc, but it never occurred to me these lines could be having their power asperated.

I am also convinced, that the george and the dragon story of English legend is pure reversed symbology. I suspect this sybolises the establishments murder of these powerful energy lines! This is typical to con society into celebrating something detrimental.

Do you think its possibl to find an "un-tapped" dragon line any where?? I read that many years ago, around a famous dragon line near Avalon, that people used to walk its entire spiral length to absorb some form of energy, have you heard of this and is it possible to find a dragon line to walk??

In the interest of keeping this away from the establishment, if you do happen to know of one, would you be kind enough to PM me??

How interesting that the dragon lines could be getting vented, discharging the energy they posses into the atmosphere!!

It seems we have similar thoughts, I would be interested to read any further informtion you have. If I can be of assistance in any way, please contact me.

I had suspected the lay lines were being destroyed and I am conCERNed about CERN on the Geneva/Switerland Border.

http://www.reefinc.com/images/European%20Leylines.jpg

http://www.reefinc.com/images/Cern on Lay Line.jpg

My graphic wizardry is cack, but you get the idea. Cern is a Large Hydron Collider of particles, they are apparantly looking for the god molecule the Higgs Bosson, please see the following article for more information: -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3546973.stm

CERN information http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2007/PR06.07E.html

What worries me is this, this "experiment" is largely theorised, and they are placing MASSIVELY powerfull magnets on a lay line?? This I suspect id not good news! Perhaps these lines are the "Life blood" of earth, and if you know about old earth religions, Mother Earth is in essence god herself, creation.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/Images/CERNLogo.gif Cerns logo is a 666 too??? Does anyone get a bad vibe about this??

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PhotoDatabase/views.jpg
27 Miles in circumference....in numerology 27 = 2+9 = Signifies completion, a full cycle.

Good stuff.

Sid

Hi, Sid.
I think you may be onto something there. I will try to look into it myself and will post anything I come up with. Meanwhile, try to get hold of a book called Pi in the sky by Michael Poynder if you want to get a better idea of how these lines work. I realise you are busy and your bookshelf is creaking but it really is worth a read.

lookfar

06-09-2007, 05:12 PM

sidreighn

06-09-2007, 07:15 PM

Just reading the German pyramid thread made me have a quick look for ley lines in Germany. Haven't had time to check out much yet, but have discovered that the German word for them is "Geisterwege". I'm gonna google that soon, but might have to call on some help translating the German as I'm a bit rusty on it, I've not used it in years.

In google use this tool as a research aid for words and unfamiliar phrases: -

define: "Then your phrase or word here without the quotation marks!"

Bang return and Roberts your mums brother.;)

lottie

06-09-2007, 07:36 PM

yeah defo worth lookin into the the great pyramids' proposed location with regard to ley lines etc...

sidreighn

09-09-2007, 08:04 PM

Proposed location?

sidreighn

11-09-2007, 09:48 PM

Right thanks for that, how to kill a thread!!

Lookfar, have you got anything for me??

Simon and the Scribe, One problem I have found with plotting lay lines acurately on a 2d map is that the curvature of the line adds a margin or error.

I am trying to research more into lightening and large scale magnets but my suspicion is that they will be oposites, if a magnet was to pervert the flow of the line. Do these lines circum navigate the globe??

lookfar

11-09-2007, 11:51 PM

simonthescribe

12-09-2007, 12:38 PM

Found reference on lines centred on Alaise village in France and am interested to see how near to the site of Cern this is. The page is at:
http://www.ufoarea.com/main_ley_lines.html
but check out the map here:
http://www.ufoarea.com/pictures/alaise.jpg

There is an interesting article on dowsing the lay lines and their use at:
http://www.geo.org/dowse1.htm
this states that ancient monuments placed on ley lines or ley centres "harbor the potential for universal creative power that can be directed for the progress of humanity. In India, such spots are called tantrapieds, places for liberation and enlightenment. These sacred places have a very spiritual vibration, facilitating deep meditation and contemplation".

The nearest I have found to a global map of ley lines is at:
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter7.html

sidreighn

12-09-2007, 09:27 PM

I have read about the apposing attitudes to the lines in the west (Straight) and the East (Wavy) - I think the Chines will have it right, it seems the west have a habbit of perverting everything, ancient gnosis tends to hold true in countries the West haven't got their claws into yet!!

http://www.reefinc.com/images/Geneva.gif

This answer your query about CERN Simon?? Alaise village is the red circle towards the top of the map. Hope this helps.

It crosses a lay line.

sidreighn

01-10-2007, 09:02 PM

Hi all,

on my way home th other day in Manchester UK i noticed somethingquite odd!!

MOLEC staring me in the face! Plain as day?!! (U know the Owl that the wierdo's worship at Bohemian Grove??)

Check the photo....

Can you see the Owl??

http://www.reefinc.com/images/molec.png

I wonder if this is on a lay line?? Manchester town hall is dripping with gothic architecture, serpants and dragons.

Just interested me, I have lived in Manchester all my life and never noticed this before!!

turtonlea

11-10-2007, 02:30 AM

Manchester in Latin Means Mans Camp (Mancunian) Manchester is well known for it's worship of the dark side. Manchester United was first called Newton Heath F.C. know as The Heathens, in fact the Witch on a broom was the symbol of the team. Today the world famous club is known as the "Little Red Devils". At Newton Heath Library painted on the side is a large witch on a broom, the local solicitors are called Heath Son and Broom. Newton Heath has many secrets the worlds first Botany Bay was named next to the Heath, The local church 1556 is also shaped like Molec. In Elizabeth Gaskell's book Mary Barton she wrote over 150 years ago about some of the secrets of the Heath. Blackpool Tower was first built in Newton Heath . Manchester connections to the satanic side is well documented in history. Some of the worlds most powerful families are connected to Manchester and many refuse to live even though they are very wealthy any where else. Does anyone know about the hidden worship that took place in Newton Heath in the late sixties and was in all the media showing many private jets landing at A.V. Rose's air base bringing famous people to a secret gathering in woods called Blue Dells Harold Evens the editor of the Sunday Times is seen talking to President Richard Nixon at the local cricket ground stood also with now Lord Alf Morris of Manchester. Talking of families who run the world take Lord Alf, both he and brother Charles were members of Parliament, Charles daughter Estelle Morris was Education Minister in Blairs government and is now a Baroness. These people hold great power and control large amounts of money. Yet when one goes into who who of this world one can see that it is just a small group who hold the power. To look at Newton Heath you would think that there's nothing special there until you see who owns property there and how they have reached some of the most powerful positions in Britain. Mike Atherton Captain of England, Judy Finnigan journalist and TV Presenter, John Stalker Ass Chief Constable of GMP (Shoot to Kill North/Ireland Ass to James Anderton Aids sent by God) all born and lived and own property within a square mile of Blue Bell Woods at Newton Heath , the list goes on and on from actors to politics. These people all have connections with the elite and the power is just past on down. Just like the Bush family the Clinton's power is past on down regardless of how we vote. The Morris family two seats in the Lords soon Mike Atherton will be in the Lords that's three people who all went to the same school. Soon Mrs Clinton will be President talk about keeping it in the family! How can we get any true freedom??

freethinker

08-03-2008, 02:15 PM

does anybody know anything about a famous church in scotland

thought by many to be a portal

i saw it on TV some time ago

lookfar

08-03-2008, 02:25 PM

does anybody know anything about a famous church in scotland

thought by many to be a portal

i saw it on TV some time ago

Hi freethinker

Do you mean Rosslyn Chapel?

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/majorsites/rosslyn.html

http://www.rosslynchapel.org.uk/

diamond dogs

23-03-2008, 08:22 PM

Hi and what a great thread..I know from the belinus line that St Margaret's Church Hopton Norfolk has been 'vandalised' in the past and the original burnt down but the ruins still remain

Updated: Sunday, 28 November, 2004,
Friday night, St Margaret's church in Hopton, Norfolk, was so badly damaged church officials were unsure if anything was stolen.

Thought I'd also post the image of the cydonian peak on Mars ..did not realise how close it is to the 'face' imag and other pyramids.....
http://web2.kwangju.ac.kr/~tak/cosmos/planets/Mars-Cydonia.jpg

sidreighn

19-04-2008, 01:17 PM

lookfar

19-04-2008, 01:29 PM

I've been thinking about what I read by one of the moderators in another thread, about the story of George and the Dragon being symbolic of the male energies dominence overthe female...

We all know that churches are built on the earths energy grid. Some of us also know that a church spier represents a male phallus, and that the church entrance are often made in the style of a ladies most private of private bits.

Is it possible that there used to be henge/round/femae type structres on the laylines rather than ma spiers and phalic structures??

Hi sidreign:)

That's a good point, I'm sure that the male obelisks etc are being made so abundant (mainly by masons) to overcome the female energies on the leylines. The must pose some sort of threat to them in order for this to be so common in cities & all over the place. Like a male dominance sorta thing. Although there are female (round) structures too, but these are far fewer that the obelisks, well from what I've noticed anyway.

It could also have to do with whether the leylines represent male/female energy & how that relates I don't wholly know yet, but could be a contributing factor....:confused:

I'm hoping to get hold of the Bruce Cathie info soon, so will be able to map out leylines in more detail....:D

sidreighn

21-04-2008, 10:03 PM

Hi sidreign:)

That's a good point, I'm sure that the male obelisks etc are being made so abundant (mainly by masons) to overcome the female energies on the leylines. The must pose some sort of threat to them in order for this to be so common in cities & all over the place. Like a male dominance sorta thing. Although there are female (round) structures too, but these are far fewer that the obelisks, well from what I've noticed anyway.

It could also have to do with whether the leylines represent male/female energy & how that relates I don't wholly know yet, but could be a contributing factor....:confused:

I'm hoping to get hold of the Bruce Cathie info soon, so will be able to map out leylines in more detail....:D

Mother nature ill win against the illuminati you know....I've no doubt.

I could do with a version of the laylin softwarebut I am not abl to pay for it....I might wright to him directly and ask for it on licence?? Do youthink he's support us?

lookfar

22-04-2008, 12:05 AM

Mother nature ill win against the illuminati you know....I've no doubt.

I could do with a version of the laylin softwarebut I am not abl to pay for it....I might wright to him directly and ask for it on licence?? Do youthink he's support us?

Yeah I've no doubt that she will too:D

I'm not sure, it might be his only income so I doubt it if it is. You're more than welcome to send me co-ordinates etc if you want & I could look them up for you (once I fathom out how to use it that is, I'm starting to have doubts I'll be able to understand it all tbh, but hope so, lol):)

sidreighn

23-04-2008, 01:10 AM

Yeah I've no doubt that she will too:D

I'm not sure, it might be his only income so I doubt it if it is. You're more than welcome to send me co-ordinates etc if you want & I could look them up for you (once I fathom out how to use it that is, I'm starting to have doubts I'll be able to understand it all tbh, but hope so, lol):)

Plot the national grid and motorways

lookfar

23-04-2008, 01:15 AM

Plot the national grid and motorways

Fooking hell, that sounds like a big job already, lol!:eek::D When I get it honey, I'll try my best to & let you know the results. I don't really know what the software is gonna look like yet till I get it, so it's gonna take me a bit of time to come to grips with it & work it all out. Looking forward to it though....:D

exicutioner151

23-04-2008, 11:01 AM

Oops that was the wrong link. Here is the one I meant.

http://www.whale.to/b/ley_h.html

http://www.whale.to/b/images/leyireland1x.jpg

lb

Hi Logic Bomb,
An interesting site on ley lines and human body chakra system .
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid06.htm

Exicutioner151

exicutioner151

23-04-2008, 11:14 AM

Ley lines dragons ??? europe
http://www.goldenmean.info/portugal/index.html

Exicutioner151

sidreighn

23-04-2008, 11:10 PM

Fooking hell, that sounds like a big job already, lol!:eek::D When I get it honey, I'll try my best to & let you know the results. I don't really know what the software is gonna look like yet till I get it, so it's gonna take me a bit of time to come to grips with it & work it all out. Looking forward to it though....:D

Sorry, that sounded like an order....I was drunk last night and needed to hit sack....sorry hun.

Just start in one area, plot say 20 pilons, then another, if you get consistent results on a few, then you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be a uniform pattern.

Can't wait!!!

:cool:

sidreighn

23-04-2008, 11:14 PM

lookfar

23-04-2008, 11:17 PM

Sorry, that sounded like an order....I was drunk last night and needed to hit sack....sorry hun.

Just start in one area, plot say 20 pilons, then another, if you get consistent results on a few, then you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be a uniform pattern.

Can't wait!!!

:cool:

Ah no worries honey:)

Yeah that sounds much simpler & easy to manage for a novice like me, lol:D

Will be cool to track the lines, I can't wait either!!

sidreighn

23-04-2008, 11:24 PM

Ah no worries honey:)

Yeah that sounds much simpler & easy to manage for a novice like me, lol:D

Will be cool to track the lines, I can't wait either!!

I'm gutted, I closed my web site and the earlier images I had uploaded have now been lost off earlier threads! rubbish!

I think we need to impress upon the Icke foundation to allow our research materials to be uploaded to his web space.... Just a thought...MODERATORS, WOULD YOU ASK THE BIG MAN PLEASE??? (With sugar on top and everythin!) :)

lookfar

24-04-2008, 12:27 AM

I'm gutted, I closed my web site and the earlier images I had uploaded have now been lost off earlier threads! rubbish!

I think we need to impress upon the Icke foundation to allow our research materials to be uploaded to his web space.... Just a thought...MODERATORS, WOULD YOU ASK THE BIG MAN PLEASE??? (With sugar on top and everythin!) :)

Oh that's a bummer hun:( But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by losing images from ealier threads - do you mean they've been lost from threads on here or your website?

Also what did you want to upload on here? You can PM me the details if you like & I'll check it out with Sean for you (with sugar on top & everythin of course, lol:))....

sidreighn

24-04-2008, 08:20 PM

It was the images that I had started to plot the eaarth grid on, you know off the pic on page 1 , 2 , or 3 (can't remember) with a map of Erope, I reversed the lines as patterns in nature are often geometric and remember we found the lines converged in Eastern Europ and we were trying to see if they ran through CERN???

I had hosted the images on a server I paid for, but did't renew so the pics were deleted and ergo, they have vanished off the D.I. site too.

lookfar

25-04-2008, 01:24 PM

sidreighn

25-04-2008, 07:49 PM

Oh that's a bummer honey, it's a shame you didn't have them saved somewhere else:(

I'd be surprised if CERN wasn't on a leyline tbh, they have some BIG plans for that place don't they!:eek:

Kind of resembles a stargate....

I thought about it immidiately. I was pretty sure Geneve was bang on it, and there is a large lake right next to it.....on a documentary I recently read water has to be used in stargates to prepare the body for propulsion......hmmmn.....drained lake anyone??

lookfar

26-04-2008, 02:29 PM

Kind of resembles a stargate....

I thought about it immidiately. I was pretty sure Geneve was bang on it, and there is a large lake right next to it.....on a documentary I recently read water has to be used in stargates to prepare the body for propulsion......hmmmn.....drained lake anyone??

Yeah I agree. I saw a doco on it but can't recall which one now, it was very interesting though. I also listened to a William Henry interview recently & he spoke quite a bit about it too. I'm not too sure what's gonna happen there tbh (good or bad), but I reckon it's gonna be big & the location would've been essential to the planning of it all for sure:eek:

sidreighn

27-04-2008, 03:00 PM

We could do with inviting mcmenek1 to this thread, I am reading a lot of the information that he has been posting for a good while.

I've just read about number vibrations and thought there has to be further correlation between our two different projcts, I think we could potentially pull this together.

I think a good way to start to upset the balance back in favour of humanity would be to celebrate life rather than death on 9/11 - this I don't think would be that hard to promote.

curly

04-11-2008, 10:46 PM

has anyone come across any strange features in rocks either out of water or underwater whilst following ley lines,i was down in the lydford gorge in devon basically following the michael and mary lines as described in the sun and the serpent by hamish miller and paul broadhurst and came across an amazing piece of rock under about 3/4 foot of water it was totally different to all the rock around it very light in colour about 20 feet long and ten feet wide.There was a skull face and i think a skeleton body on it but this bit was obscured by a large piece of slate and i could't be sure also a snake on it which was between the skeleton and what appeared to be some sort of vessel[bowl jar whatever.I'm going to go back soon and get the bit of slate off to get a better look but this was in the rock part of it as you see very lifelike faces in the stones at avebury and it was right on the leyline,in the book it says it follows the water at this point, i think it was in between points 20 to 23 on the official walk just down from the devils cauldron,for anyone interested in this stuff i'd say go and have a look as it's definitely not right imo and is like something out of an indiana jones film,and it's just the fact it is right on the line that has got me wondering about it as i don't pretend to know how faces/skulls get in rocks but i know it doesn't look like a natural phenomenon to me.I've got it on video and pictures of it so if anyones interested i might post it up but the photo's don't get the completely sinister aspect of the skull as it's underwater and you have to be right next to it to see it properly.

eyepod

04-11-2008, 11:21 PM

Oops that was the wrong link. Here is the one I meant.

http://www.whale.to/b/ley_h.html

http://www.whale.to/b/images/leyireland1x.jpg

lb

Hmmn interesting...
I know St. Marys Church in Walton-on-Thames which is mentioned in that article as the crossing point for two ley lines. When I was at school I used to work in Safeways which was next door to it and me and an ex-girlfriend used to go and get up to stuff in the graveyard :p. I am not usually a big fan of graveyards but it was remarkably tranquil there. I used to live in Addlestone for awhile also and got hammered in the Dukes head quite a few times. Mysterious forces at work!

The Hampton Court ley line and the Lyne Ley must have cut across or come very close to my old secondary school.

There is a famous and very expensive golf club in Fox Hills which is the starting point for the Lyne Ley and down the same road there are number of mysterious looking non named-companies which I always took to be pharmacuetical or MoD type companies.

eyepod

04-11-2008, 11:55 PM

Looking at some of the places on those Leyline maps made me think of something else...

The famous book by HG Wells, War of the Worlds about an martian invasion begins in many of those towns.

The Martians first landed in Horsell which is a small village in Woking the second landing was in Addlestone, more landings in Bushy Park, Walton-on-Thames is also mentioned as is Wimbledon. All these places were on ley lines according to those maps.

HG Wells was a member of the Fabian Society, wrote a book called The New World Order and other "elite" orientated books and was well connected to the so called PTB ;)

The same book was dramatised on American radio in 1938, encouraged and financed by the Rockefellars. Huge numbers of listeners off that show were convinced that a real Martian invasion was underway and panic ensued with people fleeing the areas.

http://www.ahsoc.fsnet.co.uk/royal-ley/intmap.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/ley_h.htmlT

swoarg

11-12-2008, 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=curly;599250]has anyone come across any strange features in rocks either out of water or underwater whilst following ley lines,

i found this head on the coast in cornwall.
i realy like this theory, could well marry up with the hollow earth theory.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=1460&albumid=182&dl=1229021173&thumb=1

curly

20-01-2009, 10:56 PM

[QUOTE]

i found this head on the coast in cornwall.
i realy like this theory, could well marry up with the hollow earth theory.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=1460&albumid=182&dl=1229021173&thumb=1

sorry mate you'll have to get me up to speed on the hollow earth bit,not sure what you mean,sorry i missed your post.nice pic

curly

20-01-2009, 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=swoarg;661874]

sorry mate you'll have to get me up to speed on the hollow earth bit,not sure what you mean,sorry i missed your post.nice pic

definitely a cyclops:D