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yeiayel
22-08-2007, 02:06 AM
UFO caught on camera - YouTube

This is a real ufo!

graflok
22-08-2007, 02:28 AM
He has a security camera pointed up at the sky? How clever.

Smells like the Haiti fake and looks like it was done with the same software.

Fake UFOs always look like Christmas tree ornaments or kitchen gadgets.

tinmenace
22-08-2007, 02:35 AM
Haiti was a hoax? :(

graflok
22-08-2007, 02:39 AM
'fraid so, tinny

see:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97699#post97699

Real UFO footage is almost always jittery as hell because 99% of camcorder buyers don't use a tripod.
There are other tell-tale signs of fakes but that's mostly stuff from my own opinions that others may
not agree with.

But, the cloned trees in the Haiti footage are a dead giveaway.

tinmenace
22-08-2007, 03:11 AM
Unbelievable. Such an elaborate hoax, and they screw up by cloning the trees!

WTF? It defies logic!

Unless the trees were planted to deliberately mislead? :confused:

graflok
22-08-2007, 03:28 AM
It would have been a lot more work to animate all the trees individually.
The animator just saved himself the time and effort and probably figured
nobody would notice.

Few people did. ;)

tinmenace
22-08-2007, 03:54 AM
Bugger! It was pretty impressive anyway...:o


Edit: Why do you think they needed all the trees? Don't you think one would have been enough?

graflok
22-08-2007, 04:19 AM
Yeah, one tree would've been enough. That's where he screwed up. Looks like he
was showing off by putting more movement in. Animators like lots of movement
in their films. They think it makes them look good.

That's one of the things to look for -- too much complex movement = animator
showing off. Like objects that move across the sky with spinning motions and
internal revolving parts and stuff like that. When it looks like they're trying to
dazzle you with their skills, be suspicious. Plus it looks professionally photographed,
like with a camera on a tripod.

tinmenace
22-08-2007, 04:30 AM
You're right.

bigus_dickus
22-08-2007, 06:11 AM
not only haiti was a hoax, but i suspect they are using the CT/UFO community for the Halo 3 or Crysis PC games viral marketing campaign.

yeiayel
22-08-2007, 10:20 AM
In this footage there is a bird in the sky. it is a fake! Look well.

what about this one?

Real UFO in Sarajevo Bosnia (8.10.2005) - YouTube

graflok
22-08-2007, 03:02 PM
1.
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/23802/2000370576230622308_rs.jpg
Why doesn't the camera start out centered on the announcer? He's the only
one talking. Why are they shooting him way over on the left side of the frame?

Because they want to make sure we see the "crowd reactions" that are about
to start. ;)


2.
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/22500/2000320625275542869_rs.jpg
Then a person walks into frame and points in a direction where there is
nothing to see and another onlooker looks in the same direction. But, they're
not looking at anything. The "UFO" appears a moment later but in another part
of the sky.


3.
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/23802/2000392566852646181_rs.jpg
Then several people look in a direction where there is nothing to see.


4.
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/23561/2000344334381299067_rs.jpg
Then the "UFO" appears coming into frame from the right but the crown is still
not looking in its direction at first.

They're all looking at the point where the "UFO" later passes behind the
roof of the building.

You can't tell a bunch of actors to all look at the same point in the sky because
there is no point of reference for them to agree on. So you pick a spot on
the building rooftop where you know the animator is going to fly the UFO past
and have everybody look at that spot instead.

There's another point too: the scene is obviously being shot by a pro
cameraman with a tripod mounted camera. But, as soon as the UFO appears
the camera suddenly starts zooming in and out wildly and shaking. This
makes no sense technically. It's apparently being done deliberately just to
add drama to the shot.

yeiayel
22-08-2007, 09:14 PM
I look at the video again and I'm aware what you say is true.
But now I woul'd like to ask: why mainstreem media do not show this kind of ufo fakes on the news on television.Because news on television I think are a
big fake day after day. So why do not add ufo fakes footage day after day to the other daily fakes??

graflok
23-08-2007, 01:53 AM
Good question. I don't know. :confused:

freedomnonfighter
23-08-2007, 03:21 AM
That is a good question- perhaps they will sometime soon when the time is more appropriate for their aims.

thirdwave
24-08-2007, 12:58 AM
1.
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/23802/2000370576230622308_rs.jpg
Why doesn't the camera start out centered on the announcer? He's the only
one talking. Why are they shooting him way over on the left side of the frame?

Because they want to make sure we see the "crowd reactions" that are about
to start. ;)


2.
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/22500/2000320625275542869_rs.jpg
Then a person walks into frame and points in a direction where there is
nothing to see and another onlooker looks in the same direction. But, they're
not looking at anything. The "UFO" appears a moment later but in another part
of the sky.


3.
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/23802/2000392566852646181_rs.jpg
Then several people look in a direction where there is nothing to see.


4.
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/23561/2000344334381299067_rs.jpg
Then the "UFO" appears coming into frame from the right but the crown is still
not looking in its direction at first.

They're all looking at the point where the "UFO" later passes behind the
roof of the building.

You can't tell a bunch of actors to all look at the same point in the sky because
there is no point of reference for them to agree on. So you pick a spot on
the building rooftop where you know the animator is going to fly the UFO past
and have everybody look at that spot instead.

There's another point too: the scene is obviously being shot by a pro
cameraman with a tripod mounted camera. But, as soon as the UFO appears
the camera suddenly starts zooming in and out wildly and shaking. This
makes no sense technically. It's apparently being done deliberately just to
add drama to the shot.



although the UFO in this looks a bit fishy and some of your points are fare enough and could have relevance I don't think they totally show it to be fake.... it does have a very real quality to it...

I don't really think him standing to the left is strange.. I'm not sure what he is saying but it looks to me like the building in the back is relevant to what he is saying, hence why he is positioned so it can be seen.

As for the pointing.... you cant be sure where the UFO was before the Camera moved up.... and the UFO did looks to move quite randomly... also if you point where the guy was pointing it was not to far from where the UFO was... I think you might be being a little deceived by the video positioning, the UFO is further away then you think and they are actually looking at it... but from our perspective the UFO is more above them, also that would be a silly mistake for them to make as they would have put the UFO in after the pointing was recorded...

and lastly this was shot in Serbia... and with all due respect to Serbia not all counties are as pro with TV as the likes other places like the US and so on...., you can see the cam is on a tripod at the start as it is steady apart from a slight movement to get him in the pic more.... then it looks like the cam is moved while on the tripod once the cam man is aware something is in the sky....

Im 50/50 with this one as I think many UFOs look fake even to the naked eye.... as this one does a little... only because of the way they move....

neutron flux
24-08-2007, 01:58 AM
I quoted this on another thread so I'll just repeat it here:

This guy is talking about 45. MESS (international theater festival) taking place in capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, back in 2005. Video is sort of advertising material for it, obvious hoax, though solid one. There are even pictures of UFO landing site, just in front of city theater, how appropriate! Here is part 2: http://www.mess.ba/2005/video/mess_ufo_2.wmv

graflok
24-08-2007, 02:35 AM
Im 50/50 with this one as I think many UFOs look fake even to the naked eye.... as this one does a little... only because of the way they move....

I especially like the way the UFO stops and waits for the cameraman to pan
back to the announcer to get his reaction and then pans back again to the
UFO which then starts up again and continues on it's way.

That was very polite of the UFO pilot to do that. Something you don't often
see in an alien ;)

graflok
24-08-2007, 02:38 AM
I quoted this on another thread so I'll just repeat it here: <snip> Here is part 2: http://www.mess.ba/2005/video/mess_ufo_2.wmv

That's funny! Ed Wood lives! :)

woghd
24-08-2007, 04:40 AM
It is fakes like these that make it harder and harder for the real stuff to get to the top. Damn these people. Thank god that they are so stupid as to have us believe that they point their security cameras into the sky!

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bigus_dickus
25-08-2007, 01:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpn1LvqhfO4&=1

This is a real ufo!

1. bird flying on the sky suddenly disappears towards the end of the video

2. watch the movement of the tree on the right side of the image. after the bird disappears, the tree moves unnaturally, repeated frames back and forth

3. clouds in the sky move back and forth = impossible

thirdwave
27-08-2007, 01:06 AM
I especially like the way the UFO stops and waits for the cameraman to pan
back to the announcer to get his reaction and then pans back again to the
UFO which then starts up again and continues on it's way.

That was very polite of the UFO pilot to do that. Something you don't often
see in an alien ;)

fair point...