Put newborn babies into care!

[tyler]

Has anyone else sensed something sinsiter about this latest headline. The head of Dr. Barnados, ex-head of the Prison Service, a Mr. Narey, has called for more powers for social workers to to take away babies from bad mothers and put them in the care of the state and to be put up for adoption more quickly. He wants them taken away almost as soon as they are born!!

This follows hot on the heels of the latest shock, horror story of the two "feral" boys who battered two other more sensitive children. Comparisons are made to the Jamei Bulger case rousing the ire of the proles.

Am I the only one that sees some kind of link between the two stories? More research needed possibly but our pedophile masters are working on something nasty.

[rixxmixxhell]

Indeed.

Have you seen that film called 'No Child of Mine'?

I suspect you would be able to watch it, as most can't, for whatever reason.

These children will suffer more so than not. No child left behind is their moto. Get them when they are young..also provides many opportunities for 'education'. If you get my meaning.

They use these methods to seed the idea and ease it in so it goes excepted and thus supported. The ones who speak out and unheard.

When you're weary, feeling small, when tears are in your eyes, i will drive them home was used i think in the film.

Definitely nasty.

[entrainment]

OUR children dont belong to us:mad:

The state has been slowely taking our parental rights for years but now they are ramping up the machine and letting us all know that if we dont toe thier line OUR kids can & will be taken from us. Least thats how i see it

Or is it just PC and we have nothing to fear cause its all for the greater good and the kids will be better off ?

:mad:

[rixxmixxhell]

Quote...

The architect of No Child Left Behind (NCLB), President Bush’s first senior education advisor, Sandy Kress, has turned the program, which has consistently proven disastrous in the realm of education, into a huge success in the realm of corporate profiteering. After ushering NCLB through the US House of Representatives in 2001 with no public hearings, Kress went from lawmaker—turning on spigots of federal funds—to lobbyist, tapping into those billions of dollars in federal funds for private investors well connected to the Bush administration.

The Rest...

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/12-bush-profiteers-collect-billions-from-no-child-left-behind/

Nationally, there are over 1,800 approved providers of supplemental educational services, but little in the way of regulation. To the contrary, Michael Petrilli, former member of the Department of Education, purports, “We want as little regulation as possible so the market can be as vibrant as possible.” To that end, Kress is currently lobbying on behalf of another bipartisan coalition to win reauthorization of NCLB for another six years.

No Child Left Behind... It's all related..

[pipsicle]

Yes - this was chilling.

Narey effectively said there's no point leaving kids with "bad" parents, when organisations such as his would only have to undo the "damage" at a later date.

[ms hope]

http://nameshamesocialworkers.blogspot.com/

child trafficking is completely out of control, all the MP's know but keep it hidden, they are all part of the problem.

judges/family courts are completely corrupt and hidden behind the closed doors,
(children do belong to the Crown/State and the Judges are trustees,)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5743419/Is-the-state-guilty-of-child-kidnap.html#postComment

The Tories even steal from there own, most authorities are Tory run, so what do you think is going to happen once they get in , all parties are de facto and all know what is happening, they are all in bed together, because of the amount of infrastructure and jobs created,

None of them could care less, all public pretenders:(

[ms hope]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6073914/Secret-agenda-to-score-adoptions.html#postComment

why is is the Lords/Judges only speak out now an then???

could it be they know that families are going to track their stolen children down and make them accountable for their actions.

[ms hope]

tyler

where is the link to this report?

[tyler]

I'll have a shufti. Hang on a sec.

[tyler]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/children_shealth/6145313/More-babies-should-be-taken-into-care-to-protect-them-from-poor-parents.html

[largejack]

Naturally most people agree with it. :mad: 86 % in Mail online poll think it's a good idea.

What worries me especially is what is the definition of 'bad' parents?:mad:

[cpfc12]

wow this is crazu

[kweli]

Has anyone else sensed something sinsiter about this latest headline. The head of Dr. Barnados, ex-head of the Prison Service, a Mr. Narey, has called for more powers for social workers to to take away babies from bad mothers and put them in the care of the state and to be put up for adoption more quickly. He wants them taken away almost as soon as they are born!!

This follows hot on the heels of the latest shock, horror story of the two "feral" boys who battered two other more sensitive children. Comparisons are made to the Jamei Bulger case rousing the ire of the proles.

Am I the only one that sees some kind of link between the two stories? More research needed possibly but our pedophile masters are working on something nasty.

I see the link too Tyler. I see only too well how the case in Edlington (my home village) is being used to further their agenda. The village & neighbouring area (Warmsworth) are currently under dispersal orders, meaning any more than two people hanging out together can be split up, and removal of under 16's to their place of residence. The order runs from June 29 until November 30, 2009 and includes parks and other recreational areas where the kids usually hang out.

Police dispersal order targets village anti-social behaviour
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnews/Police-dispersal-order-targets-village.5388570.jp

Also - the mainstream media seem to be omitting the following fact in recent reports on the case:


"TWO boys being questioned by detectives in connection with a vicious attack on two boys in Edlington were in foster care, it has emerged.
Doncaster Council has admitted that they boys, aged ten and 11 were in the care of social services when the incident happened."

http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free/Boys-held-by-police-in.5146272.jp

[adzboarder]

THis was "debated" on the Wright Stuff TV show my wife watches on daytime telly. I stated to her that it sets a dangerous precedent and you will see children being taken away from who are otherwise excellent parents.

Stuff like, say a young mum who dotes on her children gets caught stealing some beans from the local corner shop (to FEED her children) - should she have her children taken away from her for this desperate act?

I feel not personally, but it was well worth chucking into the mix while they fawn on TV and say how wonderful it all is....

[adzboarder]

...IF however, the "care" system was not a paedophile/masonic run institution that puts children in even greater danger then I might even find myself supporting this motion to a degree.

Its seriously difficult to find balance on this issue, particularly as a parent myself.

[drhemp]

If the Nazis we have in Government now get their way, one day from looking at the DNA, they will chose whether the child is to be taken away from the parents by the State.

[rodin]

If the Nazis we have in Government now get their way, one day from looking at the DNA, they will chose whether the child is to be taken away from the parents by the State.

Nazis?

http://www.lordbothwell.co.uk/mandelson.jpghttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40677000/jpg/_40677939_miliband203.jpg

[ms hope]

The Councils apply for gagging orders in the royal courts of justice, (in secret of course, cant let the public know
whats really going on, can we now)if they dare speak to anyone let alone put pictures, and I mean anyone including the useless MP,s
who pretend to give a s**t. Over 200 a year are imprisoned, of course the 'common purpose' BBC/media/papers wont tell the sheeple that ,
it might frightened them.

But they will report and use tragic cases like baby Peter's inorder to increase child trafficking, whilst leaving children in
abusive homes to die.

Most children are classed as being at risk of emotional abuse, no family stands a chance in our de facto courts with a de facto parties/government in place,
you can not win.

Over 4,000 children a year are being taken, over a 1,000 of these alone come from Kent and rising.

Is it any surprise when Peter Gilroy the chief executive of
Kent County Council is a psychiatric social worker (highest paid in the country about £250,000 a year) talk about putting the lunatics in charge of the asylum !
Virtually half of the MP's come from SS backgrounds and the other half are lawyers (corruption has no boundaries)the SS are also queuing up to get into the tory party and become MP's.

Children are trafficked, because that is what is really happening, these children are simply being stolen
and not all are going to families , if the secret family courts Cafcass/Coram and rubber stamping judges are not corrupt
why all the secrecy?

You only have to put forced adoption into utube to see all the desperate parents/relatives, funny how the government keep taking down the childrens debate in parliament were the incompetent ministers talk on the children bills , about grandparents only having to be good enough parents, that's funny because all of them are invited (made) to take psychological tests, if they are silly enough to agree and they never pass, its called hoop jumping.

The councillors know and so do the MP's including the Cabbage Patch doll , commonly known as David Cameron (do we really want a cabbage for our next leader , dont we already have one ?)

The only way is to tell the world and everyone you know; before they come for yours, forewarned is forearmed.The family courts and corrupt judges must be exposed ,not kept hidden to do their dirty work behind closed doors, which is exclusively for their protection not the childrens.

Council's are using your council tax , in order to steal your own children.

[pipsicle]

Naturally most people agree with it. :mad: 86 % in Mail online poll think it's a good idea.

What worries me especially is what is the definition of 'bad' parents?:mad:

They can propagate inhumane moves such as these in the DM because they know some of their readers are small-minded snobs. They'd rather join in bitching about the poor parents than think about what's really going on.

[ms hope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrS2qzk8S10

this is right on the button ..

[ms hope]

bet they dont answer this one:(

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/family_courtsservice_complaints#incoming-43468

7 September 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,

Can you please provide details of how many complaints received
about unlawful practices of Judges and Council SS Legal Team
(children social services) , barrister's etc Cafcass Legal teams
etc , regarding Children taken into ‘care’ by Kent County Council.

Relatives who put themselves forward are considered guilty until
proven innocent, and demands are made that they jump through
assessment hoops, when the House of Lords made it quite clear that
grandparents only have to be good enough parents. The system as it
stands is no better than a 'child trafficking ring.'

It is appalling that in Family Court’s so many children are being
taken into care based on mere opinion of – so-called professionals
and placed for adoption with strangers rather than relatives.

In 2007,local authorities in England applied for 8,173 care orders.
7,624 orders were made. 336 applications were withdrawn, 290 "no
orders" decisions and 21 orders were refused.

In other words, the judgement of the social workers working for the
council was so good, they were only refused by the judge 21 times
(0.27%)

More importantly 93% of the time the judge merely rubber-stamped
the care orders.

House of Lords - Down Lisburn Health and Social Services Trust.
Baroness Hale of Richmond. Judgement

34. There is, so far as the parties to this case are aware, no
European jurisprudence questioning the principle of freeing for
adoption, or indeed compulsory adoption generally. The United
Kingdom is unusual amongst members of the Council of Europe in
permitting the total severance of family ties without parental
consent. (Professor Triseliotis thought that only Portugal and
perhaps one other European country allowed this.) It is, of course,
the most draconian interference with family life possible.

Although kinship placements are supposed to be the preferred option
in this country, only 1 per cent. of social worker-instigated
placements ended up with kinship carers, compared with 45 per cent.
in Denmark, for example(EVIDENCE given in parliament 16th June 2008
by Tim Loughton MP shadow minister for children)

Yours faithfully,

Susan Web

[analog]

Has anyone else sensed something sinsiter about this latest headline. The head of Dr. Barnados, ex-head of the Prison Service, a Mr. Narey, has called for more powers for social workers to to take away babies from bad mothers and put them in the care of the state and to be put up for adoption more quickly. He wants them taken away almost as soon as they are born!!

This follows hot on the heels of the latest shock, horror story of the two "feral" boys who battered two other more sensitive children. Comparisons are made to the Jamei Bulger case rousing the ire of the proles.

Am I the only one that sees some kind of link between the two stories? More research needed possibly but our pedophile masters are working on something nasty.

Problem-Reaction-Solution

Yes we need to sieze all babies at birth and put them in PC indoctrination centres.

[ms hope]

http://www.resolution.org.uk/kent/news/

1st September 2008 designated Family Law Judge for Kent His Honour Judge Polden (second from the right, bottom of page) used to be a practising partner in a local Kent firm of solicitors...anyone spot a conflict of interest ?:rolleyes:

[ms hope]

http://www.familylore.co.uk/2009/07/barely-functioning.html


Barely Functioning
written by John Bolch on Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Following Sir Mark Potter's recent comments regarding the crisis in the family courts, I requested an interview with His Honour Judge Polden, the designated Family Law Judge for Kent, on the subject. I chose him because I have always practised in Kent and therefore know something about the courts in this county. He declined the interview. Perhaps this is not entirely surprising, given the state of some of the courts over which he presides.

As I will shortly be no longer using the courts for my work, I feel I can now say something about their state. Take my local court, Medway County Court, for instance. I would not say that it was any exaggeration to state that it is barely functioning at all, with even the most straightforward matters taking months to deal with.

Like other local solicitors, I have been issuing in other courts, just to avoid the delays at Medway. Perhaps that is the plan: reduce the service to such a level that everyone goes elsewhere - problem solved!

I would be interested to hear the experiences of others up and down the country.

[ms hope]

http://protectfamily.ning.com/profiles/blogs/six-years-of-lobbying-mps-and

too many people are speaking out for the government & mp's to ignore it

[kweli]

Has anyone else sensed something sinsiter about this latest headline. The head of Dr. Barnados, ex-head of the Prison Service, a Mr. Narey, has called for more powers for social workers to to take away babies from bad mothers and put them in the care of the state and to be put up for adoption more quickly. He wants them taken away almost as soon as they are born!!

This follows hot on the heels of the latest shock, horror story of the two "feral" boys who battered two other more sensitive children. Comparisons are made to the Jamei Bulger case rousing the ire of the proles.

Am I the only one that sees some kind of link between the two stories? More research needed possibly but our pedophile masters are working on something nasty.

I see the link too Tyler. I see only too well how the case in Edlington (my home village) is being used to further their agenda. The village & neighbouring area (Warmsworth) are currently under dispersal orders, meaning any more than two people hanging out together can be split up, and removal of under 16's to their place of residence. The order runs from June 29 until November 30, 2009 and includes parks and other recreational areas where the kids usually hang out.

Police dispersal order targets village anti-social behaviour
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnews/Police-dispersal-order-targets-village.5388570.jp

Also - the mainstream media seem to be omitting the following fact in recent reports on the case:


"TWO boys being questioned by detectives in connection with a vicious attack on two boys in Edlington were in foster care, it has emerged.
Doncaster Council has admitted that they boys, aged ten and 11 were in the care of social services when the incident happened."

http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free/Boys-held-by-police-in.5146272.jp

Just an update that further validates what Tyler was saying.


Take away problem children, says MP

The MP for the village where brothers aged 10 and 11 tortured two young boys called today for children in some problem homes to be removed "sooner rather than later".

Former housing minister Caroline Flint said she agreed with Martin Narey, the chief executive of Barnardo's, who called earlier this month for less focus on "fixing families that can't be fixed" and for social workers to be more pro-active about removing children at risk.

Ms Flint is the MP for Don Valley, in South Yorkshire, which includes the former pit village of Edlington, where a nine-year-old and an 11-year-old were subjected to a series of horrific attacks by the two brothers in April.

The brothers have admitted offences including causing grievous bodily harm with intent and are due to be sentenced later this year.

Today, writing in the Yorkshire Post, Ms Flint said: "Sadly some parents are badly dysfunctional. No parent is perfect but some are hopeless, and even cruel."

The MP added: "I agree with Martin Narey, chief executive of Barnardo's. In some cases children should be removed sooner rather than later."

Ms Flint said nothing could excuse what happened in Edlington but asked what lessons can be learned.

She also highlighted the work of the charity Coram as a possible way forward with children in problem families.

The MP said the charity links possible adoptive parents with children whose futures are being decided by judges in family courts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/take-away-problem-children-says-mp-1793049.html

[ms hope]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=14375&id=1301472159&ref=mf#/photo.php?pid=213866&id=1301472159&ref=mf


sounds about right so they can justify taking even more children from families
who are no risk, and are considered go enough to care for other children....but not those that are of adoptable ages

[ms hope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5G_TyMgIA

Please Listen a newborn baby being stolen

anybody know what a blanket offense is ???

[wildhorse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5G_TyMgIA

Please Listen a newborn baby being stolen

anybody know what a blanket offense is ???

i couldnt listen to all of that....heartbreaking

evil

[sannox]

leave people alone .

[rodin]

OUR children dont belong to us:mad:

Our calves you mean

[ms hope]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/02/martin-narey-banardos-child-protection

how fast can this man back track;)

what does he know about child protection, when his backgrounds is in prisons:(

[ms hope]

Has anything really changed...some would say its got worse

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8285000/8285167.stm

[ms hope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB7ABAZ0QT0

cafcass money pit this will be peanuts once coram take over completely

[ms hope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i17dWD9npg

this is the system today unless we stop it

[ms hope]

This baby is not smiling and it doesn't sound like the parents are either

but neither the less it made me smile:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPSLWCVbQQ&feature=related