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eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 03:52 AM

We have more infighting than any other religion!

Discordian

Discord \Dis*cord"\, v. i. [OE. discorden, descorden, from the French. See Discord (http://www.dictionary.net/searchbox.php?st=2&query=Discord&PHPSESSID=c3a920ee0a96576954dd3a00e62cba06), n.]

To disagree; to be discordant; to jar; to clash; not to suit. [Obs.]

1. Want of concord or agreement; absence of unity or harmony in sentiment or action; variance leading to contention and strife; disagreement; -- applied to persons or to things, and to thoughts, feelings, or purposes. [1913 Webster] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. --Prov. vi. 19. [1913 Webster]
Peace to arise out of universal discord fomented in all parts of the empire. --Burke. [1913 Webster]

Relevant:confused:

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:54 AM

Discordian

Relevant:confused:

Boby sands was a terrorist.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:59 AM

Discordian

Relevant:confused:

Yes. Eris is The Goddess of Chaos and confusion. It's vitally important that the last thing a sincerely religious person ever does is know the answer. Much better for a religious person, like myself, to have lots of answers which fight it out forever.

The starting point of Discordianism is the sigh of someone who realises you cannot 'win' the game of life. In the presence of Eris that sigh becomes one of relief. You can't win and you can't lose. You just play...

eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 03:59 AM

Boby sands was a terrorist.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I'm not so sure you are who you say you are Miracles old boy.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:02 AM

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I'm not so sure you are who you say you are Miracles old boy.

Miracles is trying to distract you. He's a Christian and they get upset by Eris because she's older than their God. And sexier. C'mon, even you have got to admit that, Miracles old boy. Your God's a bit dour and ... ahem ... male for my tastes and I'm guessing yours as well?

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:09 AM

Apollo trumps Eris.

O Discordia.

eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 04:12 AM

Yes. Eris is The Goddess of Chaos and confusion. It's vitally important that the last thing a sincerely religious person ever does is know the answer. Much better for a religious person, like myself, to have lots of answers which fight it out forever.

The starting point of Discordianism is the sigh of someone who realises you cannot 'win' the game of life. In the presence of Eris that sigh becomes one of relief. You can't win and you can't lose. You just play...
Okay, sounds like a philsophy. Do you say prayers? or do rituals?

suicidal_martyr

03-09-2009, 04:15 AM

I'm a Discordian and that's by far the best religion of them all.

Another Religion...just what the world needs..especially if it's the "best".

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:21 AM

Apollo trumps Eris.

O Discordia.

Eris uses an air freshener and asks Apollo to stop trumping.

Okay, sounds like a philsophy. Do you say prayers? or do rituals?

Yes however most of them are secret and can only be revealed to initiates and, as I said, we're not currently looking for new members.

One of them is quite well known outside the Order, it's called the 23 enigma.

I see no reason why I can't explain it to you now.

Make a note of all the times 23 pops up in your reality. It's Eris's way of saying hello. It's not a lucky number but it is important. Crucially it's an enigma.

If you're new to numerology it's a bit tricky to get into the habit. For example, if I look around my room right now ... what have we got? Well, it's exactly 20 past 3 as I write this post up. There's my 23 observance.

Try it yourself...

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:37 AM

Eris uses an air freshener and asks Apollo to stop trumping.

Yes however most of them are secret and can only be revealed to initiates and, as I said, we're not currently looking for new members.

One of them is quite well known outside the Order, it's called the 23 enigma.

I see no reason why I can't explain it to you now.

Make a note of all the times 23 pops up in your reality. It's Eris's way of saying hello. It's not a lucky number but it is important. Crucially it's an enigma.

If you're new to numerology it's a bit tricky to get into the habit. For example, if I look around my room right now ... what have we got? Well, it's exactly 20 past 3 as I write this post up. There's my 23 observance.

Try it yourself...

I take it by association then that other spirits communicate using numbers as well. Would you happen to be privy to these numbers? Is this part of an ancient tradition or something? How did these deities come to be associated with these numbers?

I'm fascinated. BTW I'm drinking a 32 ounce Pepsi. LOL.

Eris uses an air freshener and asks Apollo to stop trumping.

How dare you, Apollo is a proper lady.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:39 AM

Another Religion...just what the world needs..especially if it's the "best".

My thoughts exactly. One of the problems in our world is that we have a lot of people who are worshiping Gods who claim to tell the truth but only to get caught out telling porky pies.

The Bible's a good starting point. In the Garden of Eden God lies to Adam and Eve about the fruit from the tree - claiming it'll kill them. He knows it'll actually make them intelligent. Eris was in the garden smiling at Him as he messed with their heads. She won't have approved I don't think.

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:40 AM

My thoughts exactly. One of the problems in our world is that we have a lot of people who are worshiping Gods who claim to tell the truth but only to get caught out telling porky pies.

The Bible's a good starting point. In the Garden of Eden God lies to Adam and Eve about the fruit from the tree - claiming it'll kill them. He knows it'll actually make them intelligent. Eris was in the garden smiling at Him as he messed with their heads. She won't have approved I don't think.

Do you believe Eris to be the same type of being as Enlil that was the God in Eden?

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:42 AM

This is just too bizarre. I look for synchronicity all the time. I'm listening to the Dark Tower audio books lately and the word for nothingness/despair is Discordia. There is also a castle Discordia.

Eris' name is Discordia in Latin.

And you go making this post. WEIRD.

I would think it's a bad omen to be visited by the goddess of discord and strife.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:45 AM

I take it by association then that other spirits communicate using numbers as well.
Would you happen to be privy to these numbers? Is this part of an ancient tradition or something? How did these deities come to be associated with these numbers?

Yes but I don't regard other spirits much to be honest. 666 is supposed to be the mark of the Christian's (or their Beast or whatever) as is the number 13. Various numbers go with different entities but the difference here is that Eris's number isn't lucky or unlucky. It's an enigma. It pops up and the more you observe it the more it will come to you. It's a sign you're on a certain path and acts as a magnet for the Discordian reality tunnel.

I'm fascinated. BTW I'm drinking a 32 ounce Pepsi. LOL.

23 is easier to observe the more you observe it. Pope Bob lays it down in a YouTube video somewhere... lemme see... here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7RxbBIGo54

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:49 AM

Yes but I don't regard other spirits much to be honest. 666 is supposed to be the mark of the Christian's (or their Beast or whatever) as is the number 13. Various numbers go with different entities but the difference here is that Eris's number isn't lucky or unlucky. It's an enigma. It pops up and the more you observe it the more it will come to you. It's a sign you're on a certain path and acts as a magnet for the Discordian reality tunnel.

I see 44, 14 and 17 all the time. Amongst about 7 or 8 others. I get them in conjunction which leads me to believe it's not random. I have reason to believe that 44 indicates a Jupiter/Zeus influence. I don't know what 17 represents. I'm just interested in communicating with spirits via observation. It's certainly fun. It's nice to know what to assign 23 to.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:52 AM

Do you believe Eris to be the same type of being as Enlil that was the God in Eden?

No.

This is just too bizarre. I look for synchronicity all the time. I'm listening to the Dark Tower audio books lately and the word for nothingness/despair is Discordia. There is also a castle Discordia.

The concept of nothing is VERY important to Discordianism but to be honest I think it'd take a little long to explain in this context. Discordians can talk about nothing forever.

I would think it's a bad omen to be visited by the goddess of discord and strife.

It might be if you have that sort of attitude.

Discordians do not have the same sort of relationship you might have with (for example) the Christian God. You're not her servant nor she yours. She owes you nothing and you're not indebted to her either. Don't snub her though. She hates that.

cheeb

03-09-2009, 04:52 AM

Miracles is trying to distract you. He's a Christian and they get upset by Eris because she's older than their God. And sexier. C'mon, even you have got to admit that, Miracles old boy. Your God's a bit dour and ... ahem ... male for my tastes and I'm guessing yours as well?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/479/gypsiegirl.jpg

The Gypsy Girl...

might be Gaea, goddess of the Earth.
Hesiod...says that in the beginning there was Chaos, which in Greek means "yawning."
Into that yawning, or void, came Gaea (Earth),

In Ancient Greek cosmology, Chaos was the first couple of things to exist and the womb from which everything emerged.
For Hesiod and the Olympian mythos, Chaos was the 'vast and dark' void from which the possible first deity, Gaia, emerged. In the Pelasgian creation myth,
Eurynome ('goddess of everything') emerged from this Chaos and created the Cosmos from it.
For Orphics, it was called the 'Womb of Darkness' from which the Cosmic Egg that contained the Universe emerged.
It is sometimes conflated with 'Black Winged Night'.

The idea is also found in Mesopotamia and associated with Tiamat the 'Dragon' of Chaos, from whose dismembered body the world was formed.

Genesis refers to the earliest conditions of the Earth as "without form, and void", a state similar to chaos

I Particulary Go For The Cthulhu Mythos...

El-aka gryenn'h

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7594/cthulhusquid.jpg

N'kgnath ki'q Az-Athoth
R'jyarh wh'fagh zhasa phr-tga nyena phrag-n'glu

N'kgnath ki'q Y'gs-Othoth
R'jyarh fer-gryp'h-nza ke'ru phrag-n'glu

I'a ry'gzenghro
I'a ry'gzenghro

Kh'rensh n'fha'n-gnh khren-kan'g N'yra-l'yht-Otp
Hfy'n chu-si whr'g zyb'nos thu'nby jne'w nhi quz-a

I'a Sh'b-N'ygr'th aem'nh El-aka gryenn'h
I'a aem'nh kyl-d zhem'n

I'a aem'nh
I'a aem'nh urz'vuy-kin w'hren'j El-aka gryenn'h

K'fung'n zyb'nos z'j-m'h kyns el-gryn'hy
Ki'q zyb'nos k'El-aka gryenn'h

Ki-iq kyl-d zhem'n
Ki-iq Sh'b-N'ygr'th aem'nh El-aka gryenn'h

Zhar'v zy-d'syn
Zhar'v zy-d'syn

Nal Y'gs-Othoth krell N'yra-l'yht-Otp
I'a Y'gs-Othoth, I'a N'yra-l'yht-Otp

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9530/cthulhucthucksbysalshep.jpg

The Many Tentacled One Eats Discordians Before Breakfast...!!!

:mad:

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 04:53 AM

No.

The concept of nothing is VERY important to Discordianism but to be honest I think it'd take a little long to explain in this context. Discordians can talk about nothing forever.

It might be if you have that sort of attitude.

Discordians do not have the same sort of relationship you might have with (for example) the Christian God. You're not her servant nor she yours. She owes you nothing and you're not indebted to her either. Don't snub her though. She hates that.

But if she is just the spirit of strife and discord, what goodness can she bring?

Tough lessons?

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:56 AM

Hesiod...says that in the beginning there was Chaos, which in Greek means "yawning."
Into that yawning, or void, came Gaea (Earth),

That's right. Eris is the void and she predates any silly little God with a willy who claims otherwise.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 05:02 AM

But if she is just the spirit of strife and discord, what goodness can she bring?

Tough lessons?

Just the spirit of strife and discord? No. Eris is not JUST anything. She'll dish out some tough lessons if you treat her with disdain like that!

She'll bring you BOTH good and bad as she pleases.

However, it's very important to understand that Eris has a sense of humor. She's the God who laughs more than any other. That's why all the rest are so serious all the time. She's more powerful than any of them. Recall the saying "angels fly because they take themselves lightly" whenever you think of her. That'll give you a better idea.

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 05:06 AM

Just the spirit of strife and discord? No. Eris is not JUST anything. She'll dish out some tough lessons if you treat her with disdain like that!

She'll bring you BOTH good and bad as she pleases.

However, it's very important to understand that Eris has a sense of humor. She's the God who laughs more than any other. That's why all the rest are so serious all the time. She's more powerful than any of them. Recall the saying "angels fly because they take themselves lightly" whenever you think of her. That'll give you a better idea.

I am just trying to understand it better, that's all. From my perspective the "gods" or "angels" are just different forces of nature and reality. The spirit of Apollo is the spirit of creativity, the spirit of Jupiter/Zeus is the spirit of justice and law, the spirit of Saturn/Kronus is the spirit of restriction and time, etc.

So Eris must represent the spirit of something, and I would imagine it would be disdain/strife/discord since that is her traditional role. I am just saying it seems that her presence would be ominous. She must bring about these things in some way, since it is what she is an avatar of. And of course I would view strife and discord negatively as they are by definition negative.

cheeb

03-09-2009, 05:10 AM

Just the spirit of strife and discord? No. Eris is not JUST anything. She'll dish out some tough lessons if you treat her with disdain like that!

She'll bring you BOTH good and bad as she pleases.

However, it's very important to understand that Eris has a sense of humor. She's the God who laughs more than any other. That's why all the rest are so serious all the time. She's more powerful than any of them. Recall the saying "angels fly because they take themselves lightly" whenever you think of her. That'll give you a better idea.

You Will Have Noticed My First Post On This Was No 23...!!!
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6029/haileris.jpg

I Am Already In Your Movement...!!!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://imaginaction.pbwiki.com/f/Collage%2520Hail%2520Eris.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pages.videotron.com/drroots/&usg=__BJ1OxIJFSE_RuISmRh3gxVAvF7s=&h=768&w=1024&sz=216&hl=en&start=38&um=1&tbnid=S0l8ZQ7q8eTJIM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhail%2Beris%2Ball%2Bhail%2Bdiscordia% 26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1B3GGGL _enGB244GB244%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1

;););)

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 05:15 AM

So Eris must represent the spirit of something, and I would imagine it would be disdain/strife/discord since that is her traditional role. I am just saying it seems that her presence would be ominous. She must bring about these things in some way, since it is what she is an avatar of.

Well if you must know, I'll explain in a little more detail. The crux of it is this. Most people are scared of Eris because she's the real deal. She actually is the one who created the world, the Universe and everything in it. If you need proof of this look around you, the Chaos and confusion alone is her fingerprint.

Most religions, including the Greeks, try to put her down and label her as a spirit or Goddess rather than give her the credit she deserves. This is part of a Holy and profound story known as The Original Snub. Imagine it like this, all the Gods, Goddesses and people are having a party and Eris isn't invited. No one wanted to be upstaged. So she chucks in an apple with "to the most sexy" written on it. All the people at the party fight over the apple claiming it must be for them. Confusion reigns as we all know that the most sexy is Eris herself and she wasn't invited to the party.

Moral of the story - DON'T SNUB ERIS.

All major religions try to ignore Eris and/or put her down. That's why none of them are working properly anymore. They're all fighting over the apple of Discord.

One of our sacred books is The Principa Discordia. Maybe you should read a bit of that, you seem ready. It's more complex than The Bible or The Koran though... very tricky to understand.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 05:16 AM

You Will Have Noticed My First Post On This Was No 23...!!!
[B]I Am Already In Your Movement...!!!

WIN.

However, I'm afraid you're not in my movement. I'm the only true Discordian, all the rest are liars. ;)

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 05:18 AM

That said, I'm off to bed. I'm pretty sure Cheeb can take it from here.

michael christopher

03-09-2009, 05:19 AM

Well if you must know, I'll explain in a little more detail. The crux of it is this. Most people are scared of Eris because she's the real deal. She actually is the one who created the world, the Universe and everything in it. If you need proof of this look around you, the Chaos and confusion alone is her fingerprint.

Most religions, including the Greeks, try to put her down and label her as a spirit or Goddess rather than give her the credit she deserves. This is part of a Holy and profound story known as The Original Snub. Imagine it like this, all the Gods, Goddesses and people are having a party and Eris isn't invited. No one wanted to be upstaged. So she chucks in an apple with "to the most sexy" written on it. All the people at the party fight over the apple claiming it must be for them. Confusion reigns as we all know that the most sexy is Eris herself and she wasn't invited to the party.

Moral of the story - DON'T SNUB ERIS.

All major religions try to ignore Eris and/or put her down. That's why none of them are working properly anymore. They're all fighting over the apple of Discord.

One of our sacred books is The Principa Discordia. Maybe you should read a bit of that, you seem ready. It's more complex than The Bible or The Koran though... very tricky to understand.

This is all fascinating to me. I really do believe in spirits and that they visit people, and I believe perhaps I am being visited by this spirit out of the mere coincidences I have had lately. I am not saying I buy your interpretation of Eris because I only know what I have researched about her, and until now, I have never taken a particular interest in her in comparison to the other gods I have always been interested in. I had an astrology report done for me today and it was pretty accurate, and described that I might be entering a period of disillusionment over the next 10 months or so. I was reflecting on this earlier today. It's literally only been within the last 48 hours that I have had the word Discordia repeating in my head as well, and when you mentioned the 23 thing, I saw the 32 as soon as I looked to my right. Hmm. Perhaps the universe is inviting me to experience the shift in my energies in a more positive and understanding light.

Can I find this Principa Discordia thing on the web? I am not interested in converting to a religion, but I like to take my own truth from different sources because I find there is a great deal of wisdom in many different teachings. This sort of thing sounds right up my alley for study.

cheeb

03-09-2009, 05:24 AM

WIN.

However, I'm afraid you're not in my movement. I'm the only true Discordian, all the rest are liars. ;)

That Makes Me A Thelemitic God Then...!!!

My thoughts exactly.
One of the problems in our world is that we have a lot of people who are worshiping Gods who claim to tell the truth but only to get caught out telling porky pies.

The Bible's a good starting point.
In the Garden of Eden God lies to Adam and Eve about the fruit from the tree - claiming it'll kill them.
He knows it'll actually make them intelligent.
Eris was in the garden smiling at Him as he messed with their heads.
She won't have approved I don't think.

;)

arty2000

03-09-2009, 05:26 AM

I'm a Discordian and that's by far the best religion of them all. We have a sexy Goddess - my avatar is a picture of her. We have more infighting than any other religion! We are newer than most of them, only got going in the 60's. Discordianism totally rules.

However, I'm afraid you can't join as we're not currently looking for any converts.

Any questions about my new amazing religion will be answered here.

odin and thor rock and they can drink eris under the table:)

arty2000

03-09-2009, 05:32 AM

eris=rise

cheeb

03-09-2009, 05:52 AM

This is all fascinating to me. I really do believe in spirits and that they visit people, and I believe perhaps I am being visited by this spirit out of the mere coincidences I have had lately. I am not saying I buy your interpretation of Eris because I only know what I have researched about her, and until now, I have never taken a particular interest in her in comparison to the other gods I have always been interested in. I had an astrology report done for me today and it was pretty accurate, and described that I might be entering a period of disillusionment over the next 10 months or so. I was reflecting on this earlier today. It's literally only been within the last 48 hours that I have had the word Discordia repeating in my head as well, and when you mentioned the 23 thing, I saw the 32 as soon as I looked to my right. Hmm. Perhaps the universe is inviting me to experience the shift in my energies in a more positive and understanding light.

Can I find this Principa Discordia thing on the web? I am not interested in converting to a religion, but I like to take my own truth from different sources because I find there is a great deal of wisdom in many different teachings. This sort of thing sounds right up my alley for study.

If You Get Into Discordianism,
You Will Have To Get A Whole New Reality Tunnell...

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4499/kerrythornleyidlewarrio.jpg

Thornley began writing a novel based on his disillusioning experience in the Marines.
After hearing that ol' Oswaldskovitch really meant it with that commie stuff when he defected to the Soviet Union,
Thornley transformed the book, called The Idle Warriors, into a roman à clef about Oswald

-- making Thornley the only person to write a book about Lee Oswald before that fall day in Dallas.

Thornley was living in New Orleans when John F. Kennedy was killed, hanging out, according to his own recollections (which some friends suspect Thornley invented) with a curious cast of characters.

Among them were some unfortunates caught in New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's feckless investigation into the JFK assassination.

What is definitely not Thornley's imagination, though, is that he was dragged into the "Who Killed Kennedy?" melodrama,

testifying before the Warren Commission and targeted by Garrison,

who thought Thornley might have been part of the conspiracy as a "second Oswald."
The two men allegedly looked quite similar, and there was a weird series of coincidences linking them.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7776/illuminatustrilogy.jpg

You May Even Have To Re-evaluate All You Think You Know About The Dreaded Bavarian Illuminati...???

Which Links Back Into Cthulhu...!!!

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3559/cthulhuvsyellowsubmarin.jpg

Here Is A Thornley Zen Article...

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/zenarchy.html

:eek:

phildee3

03-09-2009, 06:04 AM

Why does she have holes in her neck?

cheeb

03-09-2009, 06:23 AM

Why does she have holes in her neck?

I Think It Is What We In The Tantric Branch Of The Thelematic Revolution Refer To As A Pearl Necklace...

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3958/eris.gif
Themis and Eris

http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeV/Unleashing_the_Beast.htm

Seems That Our Mate Sting Was Also Aware Of This Tantric Path...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5889/stingthesoulcages18352.jpg

Here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/nov/12/biography.popandrock

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4739/illuminati6wq.jpg

Hello...!!!

:mad:

cheeb

03-09-2009, 06:56 AM

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5889/stingthesoulcages18352.jpg

Here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/nov/12/biography.popandrock

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4739/illuminati6wq.jpg

Hello...!!!

:mad:

Here Is A Little Bit More That Should Give You A Clue...!!!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3461/policealbumzenyattamond.jpg

And This...

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3874/policeghostinthemachine.jpg

666

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Copeland_III

:mad:

fallensoul

03-09-2009, 06:58 AM

Eris is my bitch!

jason sands

03-09-2009, 07:40 AM

My religion is the best

Nuh uh! My religion is the bestest of all the religions. Just ask my prophet Baruba-methuselah. His nose everything :eek:

miracles

03-09-2009, 09:09 AM

phildee3

03-09-2009, 11:12 AM

I Think It Is What We In The Tantric Branch Of The Thelematic Revolution Refer To As A Pearl Necklace...

Pearls??!!
What a cheap-skate!

My goddess has stars for her jewels!!

miracles

03-09-2009, 11:15 AM

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I'm not so sure you are who you say you are Miracles old boy.

He was in jail for blowing people up, innocent people and 70 more men would have died from starvation because he wouldnt wear prison clothes.

As it happened 9 did die because he ordered then to hunger strike.

Im not sure who I said I was that you say I am not.

major seven

03-09-2009, 12:27 PM

That's right. Eris is the void and she predates any silly little God with a willy who claims otherwise.

So your god is a Lesbo?

She kinda looks more like a 1920's film star.
Lillian Gish?
Dig the curls. Could be a "speak easy" Party Babe.
Your god would look good doing the Charleston.

Eris! God of Partys.
And you say you ain't taking any new initiates?

Eris must be must be a fraud then.
With any GOOD party, MORE is always the MERRIER.

How lame is that.
A Lesbo god, that limits the number of party goers.

fallensoul

03-09-2009, 12:31 PM

So your god is a Lesbo?

She kinda looks more like a 1920's film star.
Lillian Gish?
Dig the curls. Could be a "speak easy" Party Babe.
Your god would look good doing the Charleston.

Eris! God of Partys.
And you say you ain't taking any new initiates?

Eris must be must be a fraud then.
With any GOOD party, MORE is always the MERRIER.

How lame is that.
A Lesbo god, that limits the number of party goers.

What if she is a personal god in the literal meaning of the word. Like spirit guide!

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 01:09 PM

This is all fascinating to me. I really do believe in spirits and that they visit people, and I believe perhaps I am being visited by this spirit out of the mere coincidences I have had lately. I am not saying I buy your interpretation of Eris because I only know what I have researched about her, and until now, I have never taken a particular interest in her in comparison to the other gods I have always been interested in. I had an astrology report done for me today and it was pretty accurate, and described that I might be entering a period of disillusionment over the next 10 months or so. I was reflecting on this earlier today. It's literally only been within the last 48 hours that I have had the word Discordia repeating in my head as well, and when you mentioned the 23 thing, I saw the 32 as soon as I looked to my right. Hmm. Perhaps the universe is inviting me to experience the shift in my energies in a more positive and understanding light.

Can I find this Principa Discordia thing on the web? I am not interested in converting to a religion, but I like to take my own truth from different sources because I find there is a great deal of wisdom in many different teachings. This sort of thing sounds right up my alley for study.

The Principa is available on the net. Look for the earlier copies. As I said, we're not looking for converts at the moment but maybe you could become a Pope. Eris is real and I wouldn't be surprised if she was making her presence felt if you are about to go through a head change. Discordians like to change their minds about things as often as possible, it's one of our more important rituals.

Read Cosmic Trigger by Pope Bob.

odin and thor rock and they can drink eris under the table:)

Factually inaccurate. Odin and Thor aren't real for a start.

eris=rise

Nope. Some people think Discordianism is just an elaborate joke. This is mainly because when a Discordian gets bored of talking about their religion it's not uncommon for them to laugh and shout "a ha HA HA! I was only joking you f**king prick". If the potential initiate gets angry and leaves it there then they were not fit to join the order in the first place. Unlike most other religions Discordians do their laughing in front of new converts and not behind their backs. It's a filter technique.

miracles

03-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Nope. Some people think Discordianism is just an elaborate joke. This is mainly because when a Discordian gets bored of talking about their religion it's not uncommon for them to laugh and shout "a ha HA HA! I was only joking you f**king prick". If the potential initiate gets angry and leaves it there then they were not fit to join the order in the first place. Unlike most other religions Discordians do their laughing in front of new converts and not behind their backs. It's a filter technique.

I think in that case on this thread at least were all discordians

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 01:20 PM

Why does she have holes in her neck?

She doesn't.

Eris is my bitch!

No she's not. You're lucky I don't tell her that.

My religion is the best

Nuh uh! My religion is the bestest of all the religions. Just ask my prophet Baruba-methuselah. His nose everything :eek:

That'd be "he knows everything". Your typo means you lose and thus I win. Hail Eris, supreme Goddess! I accept this victory in Her name.

Does being blown about by all manner of strange doctrines ring any bells Mike? You'll buy anything if you dont buy the truth mate, seriously. SPririts are visiting you now are they?

I think you should be asking for some proof no? Or is a voice in your head proof enough and a few numbers floating about in space.

Serious question: DO you take mind altering substance like narcotics and alchohol often??

The God of dispute and war is calling you MIKE, heed the call.....man your a worry.

Ok dude - I notice you fear a direct debate with me now I reveal myself as a Discordian. That figures, Christians have no idea what to make of Erisians like myself. They fear debate with us lest they look foolish.

C'mon baby - dive in!

Show me your proof and I'll show you mine. Hands down my Goddess beats your little Johnny-Come-Lately-God. Eris predates Christianity by a long shot. I can sense another mighty victory for her just round the corner. I'm waiting baby - where's your proof? I can give you chapter and verse on the proof Eris is real. Why is it that your God only arrives so very recently in human history? Why is it your God thought the world was flat? Why is it your God's followers are so thick?

You've been very rude about my religion and I am profoundly offended by that. However in the spirit of charity I apologise for my slightly over enthusiastic tone in the preceding questions.

miracles

03-09-2009, 01:30 PM

She doesn't.

No she's not. You're lucky I don't tell her that.

That'd be "he knows everything". Your typo means you lose and thus I win. Hail Eris, supreme Goddess! I accept this victory in Her name.

Ok dude - I notice you fear a direct debate with me now I reveal myself as a Discordian. That figures, Christians have no idea what to make of Erisians like myself. They fear debate with us lest they look foolish.

C'mon baby - dive in!

Show me your proof and I'll show you mine. Hands down my Goddess beats your little Johnny-Come-Lately-God. Eris predates Christianity by a long shot. I can sense another mighty victory for her just round the corner. I'm waiting baby - where's your proof? I can give you chapter and verse on the proof Eris is real. Why is it that your God only arrives so very recently in human history? Why is it your God thought the world was flat? Why is it your God's followers are so thick?

You've been very rude about my religion and I am profoundly offended by that. However in the spirit of charity I apologise for my slightly over enthusiastic tone in the preceding questions.

C mon baby, your taking the piss and I know it. :D

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Pearls??!!
What a cheap-skate!

My goddess has stars for her jewels!!

Who is this Goddess? She sounds a little up herself to me.

So your god is a Lesbo?

She kinda looks more like a 1920's film star.
Lillian Gish?
Dig the curls. Could be a "speak easy" Party Babe.
Your god would look good doing the Charleston.

Eris can change form as she pleases, however the last thing she'd do is try to please you. Unless you took her fancy. I'd be keen to dance with her. I doubt she'd dance with you.

Eris! God of Partys.
And you say you ain't taking any new initiates?

Eris must be must be a fraud then.
With any GOOD party, MORE is always the MERRIER.

No. She only does proper parties, VIP only. You need to do a bit of research on that more the merrier theory. Maybe look at this story here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/20/facebook-surrey-party-farnborough

How lame is that.
A Lesbo god, that limits the number of party goers.

I don't know where your idea that she's a lesbian came from but I wouldn't have a problem with her sexuality if that were the case. I like lesbians! I've had REAL fun with lesbians in my past so if Eris did turn out to be anything like THAT, ahem, quids in baby!

Furthermore my link proves that good parties do put a limit on those who can attend so I'm afraid it's another WIN for me here.

Therefore in answer to your rhetorical question - "How lame is that" I'd like to add the answer "not very". I'd also ask you not to be so rude about Eris. She's not like the Christian God, she'll f**k you up if you piss her off. For your own good I implore you to exercise a bit of caution.

What if she is a personal god in the literal meaning of the word. Like spirit guide!

It's a nice idea but I don't think you're right. I'm not the only Discordian to have ever lived, or even to be alive today. I am the only one who actually understands Discordianism properly but certainly we Discordians are many in number. Like I said, I don't regard most of them, but just take a look at all the Chaos that is rife in society and try telling me that Erisian agents don't have their hand on the wheel. We're the ones the NWO are trying to replace and what's more Eris is the reason they'll never manage it.

Hail Eris. 23. Law of fives. Don't eat the bun. Watch out for Fnords & remember the snub.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 01:42 PM

C mon baby, your taking the piss and I know it. :D

Eris is not afraid of piss takers. She's coming from a place of absolute authority where laughter worries her not. Can you say the same about your God?

miracles

03-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Eris is not afraid of piss takers. She's coming from a place of absolute authority where laughter worries her not. Can you say the same about your God?

Yes my God laughs at your calamity. :D

Pro 1:26 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=1&v=26&t=ASV#26)I also will laugh in [the day of] your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh

Psa 37:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=37&v=13&t=ASV#13)The Lord will laugh at him; For he seeth that his day is coming

Psa 2:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=4&t=ASV#4)He that sitteth in the heavens will laugh: The Lord will have them in derision

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gifPsa 59:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=59&v=8&t=ASV#8)But thou, O Jehovah, wilt laugh at them; Thou wilt have all the nations in derision.

Got any scripture for us to laugh at????

fallensoul

03-09-2009, 02:02 PM

No she's not. You're lucky I don't tell her that.

Go ahead, I would love to meet this charmer.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 02:10 PM

Got any scripture for us to laugh at????

Sure, here's one...

"True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth". The Principa Discordia.

This explains why hierarchical systems are destined to always rise and fall. Any relationship founded upon a master servant basis will not stand the test of time. You worship your God and bow down to him whereas I can look mine in the eyes. I only ever worship her for fun.

You lie to your God, I tell mine the truth.

flereous

03-09-2009, 02:11 PM

No. She is DIVINE. Don't be so rude about my religion.

The Greeks knew about her but she didn't really like them, they were rude and didn't invite her to parties. She appears in ALL religions but we call her Eris. Hence my name Mr Erisian.

She just as ugly as Mary in my opinion. But maybe I shouldnt disrespect her, shes probably going to call me today and yell at me. By the way, IM NOT JOKING

agneau

03-09-2009, 02:29 PM

I’ve been reading the posts about the earthquakes today, as I am very interested in earthquakes and understand reasonably well how they come to occur.

However, I want to impose a magical anteater (called Clive, for those of you who are interested) who can, by divine breath from his rear end, increase the pressure between two tectonic plates to the point that an earthquake will happen. Furthermore, the almighty Clive knows us all (in the biblical sense) and is thus as one with everything.

BUT because he is a ghost and his penis is microscopically small, there is no way to scientifically prove that this is the case.

Do not ask me for evidence for the existence of the omniscient and omnipotent Clive, because I have all I need in my faith in his existence (even though his existence doesn’t explain anything and isn’t needed to explain anything) and this is a good thing because I have none anyway.

Even so, I expect others to treat my theory as serious and sensible because I know I'm right and my feelings will be hurt if anyone mocks my sincerely held beliefs…..

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:10 PM

Sure, here's one...

"True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth". The Principa Discordia.

This explains why hierarchical systems are destined to always rise and fall. Any relationship founded upon a master servant basis will not stand the test of time. You worship your God and bow down to him whereas I can look mine in the eyes. I only ever worship her for fun.

You lie to your God, I tell mine the truth.

This explains why any further discourse with you would be discordiant and discourteous and disconcerting and dissintersting... distasteful etc etc oh and dis.. never mind

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:17 PM

This explains why any further discourse with you would be discordiant and discourteous and disconcerting and dissintersting... distasteful etc etc oh and dis.. never mind

Perhaps it does. If we are to enter into discussion I should first say that I accept you as an equal, if you are prepared to do the same with me?

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:19 PM

Perhaps it does. If we are to enter into discussion I should first say that I accept you as an equal, if you are prepared to do the same with me?

Of course I accept you as an equal, but I honestly thought you where joking about your religion.

How did you find this belief?

phildee3

03-09-2009, 03:22 PM

Of course I accept you as an equal, but I honestly thought you where joking about your religion.

How did you find this belief?

Oh, what irony!!
This is the guy who told me to get a sense of humour!!!

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:25 PM

Oh, what irony!!
This is the guy who told me to get a sense of humour!!!

Yes I see you havent got one yet, who pushed your buttons now?

phildee3

03-09-2009, 03:28 PM

I see you havent got one yet,

You'll see I have one in the "have a laugh" section - which is where this thread should be.

I'm laughing my head off at the way he got you!

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:29 PM

Of course I accept you as an equal, but I honestly thought you where joking about your religion.

How did you find this belief?

That's a good question. I started with a chap called Alan Watts, he used to be a secret Pope, I found his take on the world to be intuitively correct. I moved from him through to Pope Bob Wilson and the rest.

That said, I think earlier posts regarding the 23 enigma point to the fact that more often than not a belief like this finds you. Although, as I said, if it finds you right now I'm afraid we're full up at the moment and not accepting any new members. Some of the less reputable Churches might be keen to sign you up but a true is almost impossible to find so be suspicious of anyone who wants your cash. ;)

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:31 PM

You'll see I have one in the "have a laugh" section - which is where this thread should be.

Wrong. Just because you don't understand Discordianism doesn't mean others can't. Eris will have fun with you if you're not careful.

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:35 PM

You'll see I have one in the "have a laugh" section - which is where this thread should be.

I'm laughing my head off at the way he got you!

Actually I think he is serious? Maybe he did get me. DOH!:)

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:41 PM

:DThat's a good question. I started with a chap called Alan Watts, he used to be a secret Pope, I found his take on the world to be intuitively correct. I moved from him through to Pope Bob Wilson and the rest.

That said, I think earlier posts regarding the 23 enigma point to the fact that more often than not a belief like this finds you. Although, as I said, if it finds you right now I'm afraid we're full up at the moment and not accepting any new members. Some of the less reputable Churches might be keen to sign you up but a true is almost impossible to find so be suspicious of anyone who wants your cash. ;)
Ive already been excomunicated from the reputable churches. :D

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:43 PM

Actually I think he is serious? Maybe he did get me. DOH!:)

I am serious but equally Discordians believe that you should never take religion too seriously. Religion is clearly meant to be funny. Obviously Christians are having a laugh when they eat bits of bread and wine or whatever ritual they want to partake in but over time people have forgotten that religion should be fun and the dour grim dutiful types have taken over. Greyface rules in The Vatican!

Like I said, most people don't understand Discordianism and I don't see that tide turning any time soon. It's not my intent to convert the world, we're far too full up already so you can't join upto the true High Church, even if you wanted to.

For my part I'd prefer you to think of me as a joke than as a "serious character". Jokes are at worst irritating whereas a "serious character" might break your legs or do something "serious".

eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 03:43 PM

He was in jail for blowing people up, innocent people and 70 more men would have died from starvation because he wouldnt wear prison clothes.

As it happened 9 did die because he ordered then to hunger strike.

Yeah but he also died on hunger strike.

Same as some Muslims are doing all over in different countries (big difference but some things are the same) "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."

The cause originally of the IRA to have a united Ireland and it's own government and the British protestants and Zionists out.
I have family on both sides Catholic/Protestant although I was born English. Boo hiss etc. This is one reason Religion was never promoted by my parents, no Bible preaching from them or anything.

Point is some of my family would have still been caught up in the Catholic Protestant North south divide nonsense because they were unfortunate by chance born into two different religious sects etc.

So when arriving in England things had changed and Catholics and Protestants could marry each other here without any hassle. Weird thing is where I live earlier this century there was still animosity and some division between Catholics and Protestants, not to mention the reformation and all the other stuff for centuries before that. (oh and William the bleedin Concker and his doomsday Poll tax lark.

Answer this if you feel like -
So what are you saying sorry? The IRA was infiltrated, lead by double agents or something? And it's original purpose and aims have been hijacked?

Then we have alleged false flag operations (someone pretending to be IRA who were not yet they where bombing and killing to make it look like it was the IRA when it was not the IRA)

Then we have those who called themselves the real IRA!
Sorry going off topic (maybe you can start a thread or post on a relevant one?)

Im not sure who I said I was that you say I am not.May have mistaken you for someone else.

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:44 PM

I am serious but equally Discordians believe that you should never take religion too seriously. Religion is clearly meant to be funny. Obviously Christians are having a laugh when they eat bits of bread and wine or whatever ritual they want to partake in but over time people have forgotten that religion should be fun and the dour grim dutiful types have taken over. Greyface rules in The Vatican!

Like I said, most people don't understand Discordianism and I don't see that tide turning any time soon. It's not my intent to convert the world, we're far too full up already so you can't join upto the true High Church, even if you wanted to.

For my part I'd prefer you to think of me as a joke than as a "serious character". Jokes are at worst irritating whereas a "serious character" might break your legs or do something "serious".

If you keep joking about, someone might break your legs

miracles

03-09-2009, 03:47 PM

Yeah but he also died on hunger strike.

Same as some Muslims are doing all over in different countries (big difference but some things are the same) "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."

The cause originally of the IRA to have a united Ireland and it's own government and the British protestants and Zionists out.
I have family on both sides Catholic/Protestant although I was born English. Boo hiss etc. This is one reason Religion was never promoted by my parents, no Bible preaching from them or anything.

Point is some of my family would have still been caught up in the Catholic Protestant North south divide nonsense because they were unfortunate by chance born into two different religious sects etc.

So when arriving in England things had changed and Catholics and Protestants could marry each other here without any hassle. Weird thing is where I live earlier this century there was still animosity and some division between Catholics and Protestants, not to mention the reformation and all the other stuff for centuries before that. (oh and William the bleedin Concker and his doomsday Poll tax lark.

Answer this if you feel like -
So what are you saying sorry? The IRA was infiltrated, lead by double agents or something? And it's original purpose and aims have been hijacked?

Then we have alleged false flag operations (someone pretending to be IRA who were not yet they where bombing and killing to make it look like it was the IRA when it was not the IRA)

Then we have those who called themselves the real IRA!
Sorry going off topic (maybe you can start a thread or post on a relevant one?)

May have mistaken you for someone else.
I was born in Belfast, If my parrents didnt take me to New Zealand as kid who knows what would have happened to me. THE IRA are terrorists, but the paramiltary groups on the other side are terrorists aswell.

Murdering hatefilled sad gunmen thuggs who are victims (pawns) of higher powers.

truth finder

03-09-2009, 03:52 PM

all i can say each to there own, as long as it gives you peace...but be carefull times are nearing and false idols will be shown.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 03:55 PM

If you keep joking about, someone might break your legs

That's their choice, not mine.

eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 04:00 PM

I was born in Belfast, If my parrents didnt take me to New Zealand as kid who knows what would have happened to me. THE IRA are terrorists, but the paramiltary groups on the other side are terrorists aswell.

Murdering hatefilled sad gunmen thuggs who are victims (pawns) of higher powers.
My grandfather was born there but left on a ship aged 15 that became best part of his life, married a Welsh woman but he did go back at times. (I know genealogy . com or summat) :D

Too much trouble and a dangerous life, that's why people leave, they don't know who is who and who to trust half the time.

So yeah I am not religious.
But seen hotter looking pics of Mary than Eris Goddess.

PS Do you take any herbs or substances as part of rituals Mrerisian?

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:04 PM

seen hotter looking pics of Mary than Eris Goddess.

PS Do you take any herbs or substances as part of rituals Mrerisian?

Cheeb posted some good Eris pics above. The problem with Mary is that she's neither real nor a Goddess.

In answer to your question I'd have to put quite a firm yes. All religions should have a Holy sacrament. One of ours is called Hot Dogs.

phildee3

03-09-2009, 04:18 PM

The problem with Mary is that she's neither real nor a Goddess.

Your sacred text, the Principia Discordia, says this:

Greater Poop: Is Eris true?
Malaclypse the Younger: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

So Mary is just as real (or false) as Eris.

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:19 PM

Your sacred text, the Principia Discordia, says this:

Greater Poop: Is Eris true?
Malaclypse the Younger: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

So Mary is just as real (or false) as Eris.

It's very important that Discordians do not believe anything they read. The Principia is, like all good religious texts, open to interpretation. Besides you're quoting out of context.

miracles

03-09-2009, 04:25 PM

It's very important that Discordians do not believe anything they read. The Principia is, like all good religious texts, open to interpretation. Besides you're quoting out of context.
:D Yeah so there Phildee

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:29 PM

:D Yeah so there Phildee

Sigh... I'll explain. Sorry, I'm just a little distracted at the moment with a DVD burn I'm doing. Bloody thing just froze my 'puter.

The quoted piece explains the mystery of fiction as regards fact. How can you say something which exists only as an idea has no form whatsoever? It exists within one's mind. Surely it can be said to exist in that respect.

Mary exists in your mind, no doubt about that. When I said she doesn't exist what I mean is she's not real in the same sense that Eris is.

eternal_spirit

03-09-2009, 04:33 PM

Cheeb posted some good Eris pics above. The problem with Mary is that she's neither real nor a Goddess.

In answer to your question I'd have to put quite a firm yes. All religions should have a Holy sacrament. One of ours is called Hot Dogs.
Mary she was so hot even the holy Ghost slipped her one!
Hot dogs wtf:confused:

phildee3

03-09-2009, 04:37 PM

phildee3

03-09-2009, 04:45 PM

I'm afraid you can't join

This, from the Principia:

HOW CAN YOU BECOME A DISCORDIAN?
Properly, the question should be: "How may i join the Legion of Dynamic discord and, hence, learn the esoteric truths of the Erisian Mysteries?" The answer is quite simple: just write a letter announcing your desire to enter The Legion and present it to the Legionnaire that has shown you this pamphlet; he will pass it on to an Episkopos who will officially admit you.
...our doors are open! (Except that we don't have a building.)
===== Gather 'round Children! The time has come to DISORGANISE!

But then, as you say, Discordians are required to believe nothing they read. So you're right - you can't join.
Unless you can find an Episkopos who is illiterate.
Is that how you became a member?

phildee3

03-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Sorry, I'm just a little distracted at the moment with a DVD burn I'm doing. Bloody thing just froze my 'puter.

Why are you sorry?
Surely that is Discordian glory manifest!

Chaos rules!!

You have obviously found favour with Eris
and she has bestowed a great disblessing upon you!

mrerisian

03-09-2009, 04:56 PM

This, from the Principia:

HOW CAN YOU BECOME A DISCORDIAN?
Properly, the question should be: "How may i join the Legion of Dynamic discord and, hence, learn the esoteric truths of the Erisian Mysteries?" The answer is quite simple: just write a letter announcing your desire to enter The Legion and present it to the Legionnaire that has shown you this pamphlet; he will pass it on to an Episkopos who will officially admit you.
...our doors are open! (Except that we don't have a building.)
===== Gather 'round Children! The time has come to DISORGANISE!

But then, as you say, Discordians are required to believe nothing they read. So you're right - you can't join.
Unless you can find an Episkopos who is illiterate.
Is that how you became a member?

No.

You're right about my DVD writer though - I thought the very same as it happened.

arty2000

03-09-2009, 05:43 PM

The Principa is available on the net. Look for the earlier copies. As I said, we're not looking for converts at the moment but maybe you could become a Pope. Eris is real and I wouldn't be surprised if she was making her presence felt if you are about to go through a head change. Discordians like to change their minds about things as often as possible, it's one of our more important rituals.

Read Cosmic Trigger by Pope Bob.

Factually inaccurate. Odin and Thor aren't real for a start.

Nope. Some people think Discordianism is just an elaborate joke. This is mainly because when a Discordian gets bored of talking about their religion it's not uncommon for them to laugh and shout "a ha HA HA! I was only joking you f**king prick". If the potential initiate gets angry and leaves it there then they were not fit to join the order in the first place. Unlike most other religions Discordians do their laughing in front of new converts and not behind their backs. It's a filter technique.

:D:D...good thing Im not an initiate...but lets just say the lovely eris (she is really hot) is looking for some new members,maybe in the future...how would one go about you know get involved;)

arty2000

03-09-2009, 05:50 PM

You'll see I have one in the "have a laugh" section - which is where this thread should be.

I'm laughing my head off at the way he got you!

;)...eris is truely wonderful:D

phildee3

03-09-2009, 05:55 PM

:D:D...good thing Im not an initiate...but lets just say the lovely eris (she is really hot) is looking for some new members,maybe in the future...how would one go about you know get involved;)

I think, with this religion, you would get outvolved wouldn't you?

Seriously, though (or not!) I've reproduced what the Principia says about this in msg.82.

arty2000

03-09-2009, 06:19 PM

I think, with this religion, you would get outvolved wouldn't you?

Seriously, though (or not!) I've reproduced what the Principia says about this in msg.82.

hmmm...maybe being outvolved is the first step...very clever:cool:

thats why they are called discordians...no order out of chaos...maybe thats the first rule:cool:

phildee3

03-09-2009, 06:36 PM

no order out of chaos...maybe thats the first rule:cool:

If it is, that's where it falls down.
Order does come out of chaos - it's a natural law.

Although I must admit, as the goddess of chaos, Eris does have a claim to being the first principle.

arty2000

03-09-2009, 06:48 PM

If it is, that's where it falls down.
Order does come out of chaos - it's a natural law.

Although I must admit, as the goddess of chaos, Eris does have a claim to being the first principle.

yes but this discordian stuff is starting to make sense:D

phildee3

03-09-2009, 06:56 PM

this discordian stuff is starting to make sense

Oh, no!
That's the end of Discordianism, then!

arty2000

03-09-2009, 08:35 PM

Oh, no!
That's the end of Discordianism, then!

there is no end...sounds like youre picking up on this too;)

good for you:)

reality man

03-09-2009, 08:44 PM

I'm a Discordian and that's by far the best religion of them all. We have a sexy Goddess - my avatar is a picture of her. We have more infighting than any other religion! We are newer than most of them, only got going in the 60's. Discordianism totally rules.

However, I'm afraid you can't join as we're not currently looking for any converts.

Any questions about my new amazing religion will be answered here.

Is it full of naive harebrained hypnotised sleepwalkers like all the other religions?

phildee3

03-09-2009, 08:59 PM

No I am not. I don't know who that is but if they claim to be a Discordian they're lying.

Swethirte is a "Daughter of Freya" and very serious.
She's not been around for a while. I think her knees finally gave out.

Like miracles, a potential convert.

phildee3

03-09-2009, 09:03 PM

Is it full of naive harebrained hypnotised sleepwalkers like all the other religions?

None of them are full (have you seen inside an Anglican church on a Sunday?).
All are half-full (or is it half-empty?)

michael christopher

04-09-2009, 12:09 AM

That's a good question. I started with a chap called Alan Watts, he used to be a secret Pope, I found his take on the world to be intuitively correct. I moved from him through to Pope Bob Wilson and the rest.

That said, I think earlier posts regarding the 23 enigma point to the fact that more often than not a belief like this finds you. Although, as I said, if it finds you right now I'm afraid we're full up at the moment and not accepting any new members. Some of the less reputable Churches might be keen to sign you up but a true is almost impossible to find so be suspicious of anyone who wants your cash. ;)

I don't understand how you can have an official church. Spirits don't demand strictly regimented rules to follow when they need appreciation. They return any and all appreciation if they are benevolent spirits and demand no strict rules and regulations.

At least, this has always been my experience.

Any attempt to create an elaborate system is like implanting a virus into 3D. It's inherently malevolent.

I will say though I have felt the presence of Erisian energy (is Eris different from Iris?) today for sure, and it hasn't really been negative or positive. It's been more like, "Hey, I'm here, since you're looking."

This happened to me once before when I was reading the Sandman comic book series. When Calliope refers to Dream as "Oneiros" I got the word Oneiros stuck in my head and I started having dreams about him. I've had the word Discordia stuck in my head head and now I feel the presence of this spirit.

Maybe there is something to the Latin names that invokes spiritual attention?

Of course some people would just say I'm crazy. :)

EDIT: Oh, I see now. Eris says I'm taking myself too seriously.

miracles

04-09-2009, 12:18 AM

Swethirte is a "Daughter of Freya" and very serious.
She's not been around for a while. I think her knees finally gave out.

Like miracles, a potential convert.

My knees gave out playing cricket, plus I have had Osgood Schlatters Disease. :D

miracles

04-09-2009, 12:20 AM

michael christopher

04-09-2009, 12:37 AM

Are there any number gematria patterns in the Sandman comic book series? ("sprays computer screen with coffee - choke splutter")

Actually, there probably are, it's a pretty easy trick to pull off with something if it's long enough. If you could put all the Sandman volumes together and sequence it I bet you could find secret messages that are only there accidentally, and there might even be some kind of rhythm to the numbers. Wouldn't that be funny? They do it with all the other major religious books, so maybe it could be done in a comic book or magazine run as well. Who knows. :confused::confused::confused::(

Sandman had much more valuable truthful spiritual information in it than the Bible, that much is to be sure of. :)

miracles

04-09-2009, 12:55 AM

Sandman had much more valuable truthful spiritual information in it than the Bible, that much is to be sure of. :)

I feel dark a demonic prescence when Im reading Sandman comics. :(

miracles

04-09-2009, 12:57 AM

. If you could put all the Sandman volumes together and sequence it I bet you could find secret messages that are only there accidentally,. :confused::confused::confused::(

. :)

Yeah like if you put them all in sequence from the first issue to the last, they might coincidently be in numerical order. Freaky:o

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 01:08 AM

:D:D...good thing Im not an initiate...but lets just say the lovely eris (she is really hot) is looking for some new members,maybe in the future...how would one go about you know get involved;)

Not through me.

Like I said, we're not recruiting. To be honest most of the advanced stuff is too hard to explain to people who aren't up to it. We don't need any recruits either at the moment as everything is going to plan. S.N.A.F.U.

I think, with this religion, you would get outvolved wouldn't you?

Seriously, though (or not!) I've reproduced what the Principia says about this in msg.82.

Mmm - certainly that might be best for most people.

thats why they are called discordians...no order out of chaos...maybe thats the first rule:cool:

Certainly the Order Out Of Chaos mantra is frequently laughed at by Erisians like myself. Order certainly needs chaos but the latter is the decisive force.

Although I must admit, as the goddess of chaos, Eris does have a claim to being the first principle.

It's good to see people are starting to understand some of this stuff. No doubt Eris is the first principle. She's the womb within which you were formed.

You've been around since the dawn of time, you just can't interpret that reality. It's like you've been gazing at the screen of an old black and white telly that hasn't been tuned in, white noise. Little specks of black and white flickering all over the place. 0's and 1's, positive and negative all spread out at random. Now, about 13.5 billion years into the process you've started to think the Universe makes sense. You've managed to "crack the code" behind the nonsense. Like a magic eye picture, reality has suddenly snapped into focus. Slowly you forget the chaos upon which "reality" is built. Forget the fact you don't understand it all, even worse, kid yourself you do!

You've made a MAJOR mistake. You've snubbed Eris. She'll come for you baby! When you fall back into that void and the universe once more becomes a vortex of nonsense try crying "Hail Eris" and see if she shouts back... I doubt she will.

The closest we have to Eris as a concept is the word NOthing.

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 01:15 AM

Oh, no!
That's the end of Discordianism, then!

Discordianism will probably end soon. I'm the only true Discordian left, all the rest are liars.

Is it full of naive harebrained hypnotised sleepwalkers like all the other religions?

Yup. But that's not the fault of Eris. They were like that before they became Erisians. The idea is to use Discordianism to break out of the mold you're in, whatever that might be. If, for example, you're not Christian why not pretend to be one for a bit? Go to Church, read the Bible and tell people you've found Christ. Then 23 days later give it up and try something else... perhaps have a break and be a Satanist for a few weeks.

The idea is to constantly modify your beliefs and reality tunnel in an attempt to get the most out of life.

Try on ideas like you might clothes in a shop.

Hail Eris!

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 01:32 AM

I don't understand how you can have an official church. Spirits don't demand strictly regimented rules to follow when they need appreciation. They return any and all appreciation if they are benevolent spirits and demand no strict rules and regulations.

At least, this has always been my experience.

Any attempt to create an elaborate system is like implanting a virus into 3D. It's inherently malevolent.

No, you're right about that actually. Discordians do worship Eris but she is not a Discordian. She probably regards us with slight embarrassment. Like a rockstar might do his obsessive fan club.

Furthermore Discordians frequently do not agree with each other. The main reason for that is they've all got their own unique take on Erisian worship. As I mentioned before it's widely understood that I am the only true Discordian because all the rest are liars. They think they speak the truth but it never quite matches mine, therefore they must be lying.

I will say though I have felt the presence of Erisian energy (is Eris different from Iris?) today for sure, and it hasn't really been negative or positive. It's been more like, "Hey, I'm here, since you're looking."

I 100% believe that. Treat her power with respect and try to observe the 23's. Also, don't go asking her for any favors. You need to get to know her pretty well before she'll go helping you out. Be nice to her. She's prickly, not like Jesus.

This happened to me once before when I was reading the Sandman comic book series. When Calliope refers to Dream as "Oneiros" I got the word Oneiros stuck in my head and I started having dreams about him.

I liked Sandman but was a little disturbed when a Pagan Witch who is not in the habit of fucking about told me it was an evil book. He felt it was packed with negative energy and told me I should not keep the book in my house!? I've still got copies here in my office but I've never quite managed to shake his (irrational?) visceral hatred of it.

I've had the word Discordia stuck in my head head and now I feel the presence of this spirit.

Maybe there is something to the Latin names that invokes spiritual attention?

Of course some people would just say I'm crazy. :)

EDIT: Oh, I see now. Eris says I'm taking myself too seriously.

Well, synchronicity tells us about what is important to you and informs us about what is going on in our own heads. I think, given you're a Sandman fan, you should look into Discordianism. Like I said you can't join my church it's too full but if you're lucky you might be able to become a Pope ;) . Read The Principia - there's a copy online here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/5.php

PS -

Sandman had much more valuable truthful spiritual information in it than the Bible, that much is to be sure of. :)

I don't like Christianity but I do like The Bible. Very funny book. People say Discordians are joking? Go read Job with the story about the angels who almost get bummed. Awesome!

miracles

04-09-2009, 01:40 AM

Like I said you can't join my church it's too full but if you're lucky you might be able to become a Pope ;) .

Yeah like about 48 times already we get it okay????

A religion that no one can join hardly warrants the title "My Religion is Best". Let alone telling anyone else about it.

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 02:00 AM

Yeah like about 48 times already we get it okay????

A religion that no one can join hardly warrants the title "My Religion is Best". Let alone telling anyone else about it.

That's where you're wrong. My Religion Is Best - no doubt about that. The fact any old fool can't join is integral to the whole thing. Oxford University is one of the best in the land, imagine if they let people like you ;) sign up for two bob and a conker. They'd soon go up the shoot.

miracles

04-09-2009, 02:10 AM

That's where you're wrong. My Religion Is Best - no doubt about that. The fact any old fool can't join is integral to the whole thing. Oxford University is one of the best in the land, imagine if they let people like you ;) sign up for two bob and a conker. They'd soon go up the shoot.
I can thrash anyone in the freeworld at conkers:cool: and marlies

major seven

04-09-2009, 02:16 AM

Swethirte is a "Daughter of Freya" and very serious.
She's not been around for a while. I think her knees finally gave out.

Like miracles, a potential convert.

Hey Phil
Hot new chick on the Daughters of Freya site.
Check it out
I was thinking the same thing.
I recall her saying too, that if she gets sick and misses a few days that she has to double up on her regular 1200 knee bends to make up for it.
Man! That Freya chick is a real slavedriver.

http://frya.angelfire.com

Hey Mr Erisian

Don't get too fired up.
They claim to be Celibate.
Too bad you didn't find Goddess Freya before this, so so looking, Goddess Eris, Eh What?

Goddess Freya is the Mother of all white people.
She also had two sisters, Lyda and Finda, that were the mothers of all black and yellow people respectively.
Their father is Wr-alda who is the Father of All which would also include Eris too, Right.

Now since Eris can't create anything except Chaos and good VIP partys, it stands to reason Freya, who is the Goddess of Love, Sex, Beauty and War can kick Goddess Eris's ass any day of the year, Eh What?

Can't say if Freya is a lesbo though just in case you were wondering.
All the human births were "virgin births".

Say! Since you said you had some "REAL" quality time with Lesbos in your past, and since discordians are liars by nature, I'm guessing you aint a Mr Erisian at all, but a Miss Erisian. :D

Anyway, You ought to still be able to switch sides.
Eris would expect her loyal subject to reverse loyalties anyway, Eh What?

Check this out Mr or Miss Erisian,

www.goddessfreya.info/drawingsn.htm

Don't forget to check out pages 2-5 too while you are there.

Now don't that beat the crap out of Goddesses of Chaos, or What?

If you are a Miss Erisian, the Daughters, unlike Eris, are always looking for new recruits. You even get to wear that HOT Freya designer wear, which I suspect was designed to drive men crazy, while at the same time saying, NO YOU CAN'T.

M7 (Thinking this thread should be retitled, "How To Kill A Rainy Afternoon")

eternal_spirit

04-09-2009, 12:10 PM

(http://www.goddessfreya.info/largepics/image.asp?fn=10n)Don't forget to check out pages 2-5 too while you are there.
:D

Goddess of lust and fertility, Freya is the most beautiful girl in the world (http://www.goddessfreya.info/largepics/image.asp?fn=13n)
In addition to being the love goddess, Freya is also the Goddess of Lust. Her smoldering sexuality is an overpowering storm overwhelming anyone in its path. Pure lust brings people together just as love mingles their lives together. Goddess Freya combines this most potent of magic in one Lady.

Frank LOL
There would be a mass conversion if people caught on.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 12:42 PM

Goddess of lust and fertility, Freya is the most beautiful girl in the world (http://www.goddessfreya.info/largepics/image.asp?fn=13n)
In addition to being the love goddess, Freya is also the Goddess of Lust. Her smoldering sexuality is an overpowering storm overwhelming anyone in its path. Pure lust brings people together just as love mingles their lives together. Goddess Freya combines this most potent of magic in one Lady.

I agree. She's even sweeter than Eris.
But this doesn't jive with the celibate "Daughters of Freya."
The sexy model they use on their website ain't one of them. That's fake. The DoF's are ugly (that's why they're celibate!).

major seven

04-09-2009, 01:41 PM

(http://www.goddessfreya.info/largepics/image.asp?fn=10n)
:D

Goddess of lust and fertility, Freya is the most beautiful girl in the world (http://www.goddessfreya.info/largepics/image.asp?fn=13n)
In addition to being the love goddess, Freya is also the Goddess of Lust. Her smoldering sexuality is an overpowering storm overwhelming anyone in its path. Pure lust brings people together just as love mingles their lives together. Goddess Freya combines this most potent of magic in one Lady.

Frank LOL
There would be a mass conversion if people caught on.

:D
Page 4
"Goddess Freya posing in a cloak" :)

OK! Where do I sign! :D

"The Mans Prayer"
I'm a Man
I can Change
If I Have to
I guess

M7 (Adding Cloaks to potential Chrismas present list) :D

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 01:44 PM

I think we've hit a solution here. You lot can have Freya instead. Eris is too complex for the mainstream.

michael christopher

04-09-2009, 03:09 PM

As much as I like Eris, I still prefer Apollo. The two would seem to be in fundamental opposition, although maybe it's good to bring opposites together. ^_^

I read the Principa Discordia. It was entertaining.

manxboz

04-09-2009, 03:14 PM

Eris is real for you, MC apollo is real for you, the great creator is my God, all are real. Eris is doubt you are the only of your kind, if so your religion will soon die out.

michael christopher

04-09-2009, 03:17 PM

Eris is real for you, MC apollo is real for you, the great creator is my God, all are real. Eris is doubt you are the only of your kind, if so your religion will soon die out.

I don't have a religion and I don't believe anyone should believe the things I believe unless they have personal experiences with them.

And I believe all spirits and thought-forms are real, sentient forces, including religious Gods. I just doubt their power is anywhere near as great as they claim (I know in fact it is not or I would be long dead).

Apollo is the spirit of Creativity, known by the Romans as Apollyon. Eris was known as Discordia, the spirit of Chaos/Nothingness - the feminine womb in which the masculine seed was allowed to flourish. Discordia is the Void. It is the cold that cools the heat to make life. It is one half of the necessary components of creation. Coincidentally, Discordia is the darkness that prevents the light from destroying itself, as in my opinion, Apollyon is the light that prevents the dark from destroying itself. I know some might say the dark is nothing, but I think the world of matter is smack in the middle of nothing and everything. It seems like Apollyon and Discordia would be opposing principles, both of which are equally necessary for creation to occur. Apollo can't create with Eris' art supplies, basically. They may disagree on everything but they still need each other. So the Light needs the Darkness would be a more universal way of putting that particular metaphor.

Jupiter/Zeus would be the spirit of law-giving. Harmony/Victory would be the spirit of peace. Christ-Lucifer would be the spirit of self-salvation. etc.

The names are irrelevant ways for us to personalize what are universal human experiences of emotion and feeling. The fake spirits are "real" but only in the sense that they are copies and broken models of real spirits. Almost all religions worship these false spirits in place of the real ones.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 04:24 PM

I think we've hit a solution here. You lot can have Freya instead. Eris is too complex for the mainstream.

The either/or paradigm is mainstream.

Surely both would be closer to the Discordian ethic (or antethic, if you prefer).

I've always wanted to try group sex but my religion forbids it between mortals.
A night with Eris and Freya would be Heaven (and permissable)!

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 05:56 PM

The either/or paradigm is mainstream.

Surely both would be closer to the Discordian ethic (or antethic, if you prefer).

I've always wanted to try group sex but my religion forbids it between mortals.
A night with Eris and Freya would be Heaven (and permissable)!

Yes. A lot of Discordians have it as a secondary faith Discordian/Christian is quite popular in America. As I've said though, those lot are not TRUE Discordians. I'm the only real one, all the rest are fakers.

Eris is real for you, MC apollo is real for you, the great creator is my God, all are real. Eris is doubt you are the only of your kind, if so your religion will soon die out.

No. Eris is real. Any creator God who claims her achievements is also lying.

manxboz

04-09-2009, 06:01 PM

No. Eris is real. Any creator God who claims her achievements is also lying.

ok prove it, why is your goddess more real than any other?

mrerisian

04-09-2009, 06:23 PM

ok prove it, why is your goddess more real than any other?

Well, to start with, she predates yours by a long shot.

Secondly she doesn't need followers. They annoy her. THE TRUTH does not require you to believe in it. Hence she's behaving more realistically than yours does.

Thirdly she's a She. God is without question female. That's obvious to anyone who observes the world. The feminine principle is life bearing, protective etc.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 06:27 PM

ok prove it, why is your goddess more real than any other?

Chaos exists a priori to all forms of order, all of which dissipate back into chaos eventually.

Sorry to butt in.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 06:34 PM

Yes. A lot of Discordians have it as a secondary faith Discordian/Christian is quite popular in America. As I've said though, those lot are not TRUE Discordians. I'm the only real one, all the rest are fakers.

Of course.

I accept all religions as real.
If a "real" Discordian is necessarily seperatist (like the mainstream religions) then I am the biggest fake of all!

manxboz

04-09-2009, 06:37 PM

Well, to start with, she predates yours by a long shot.

Secondly she doesn't need followers. They annoy her. THE TRUTH does not require you to believe in it. Hence she's behaving more realistically than yours does.

Thirdly she's a She. God is without question female. That's obvious to anyone who observes the world. The feminine principle is life bearing, protective etc.

Not real proof is it and 'mine' what religion do i follow, don't judge me.

coco

04-09-2009, 06:42 PM

odin and thor rock and they can drink eris under the table:)

Don't forget St. Gertrude. According to legend she could throw a few back, herself!

phildee3

04-09-2009, 06:49 PM

Not real proof is it and 'mine' what religion do i follow, don't judge me.

You're a Yahwist.
You say so here:
"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth"

manxboz

04-09-2009, 06:55 PM

just because i quote a reiligious text does not mean im part of it

phildee3

04-09-2009, 06:58 PM

just because i quote a reiligious text does not mean im part of it

True. But it would be highly unlikely for you not to be.

You do claim to be a Yahwist in post no.114.

manxboz

04-09-2009, 07:11 PM

True. But it would be highly unlikely for you not to be.

You do claim to be a Yahwist in post no.114.

No i said the great creator is my God.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 07:18 PM

No i said the great creator is my God.

...and the "great creator" is Yahweh.

You may have other names for it/him, but that is one of them.

manxboz

04-09-2009, 07:21 PM

...and the "great creator" is Yahweh.

You may have other names for it/him, but that is one of them.

Not in my world.

phildee3

04-09-2009, 07:38 PM

Not in my world.

We are living in the same world -
or we wouldn't be writing back and forth.

You mean in this world you don't use the word "Yahweh" - fine, but many people use it as a name for the great creator.

arty2000

05-09-2009, 03:34 AM

Don't forget St. Gertrude. According to legend she could throw a few back, herself!

and she could do when hellofa jig:D

this is mr. gertrude...

http://dclips.fundraw.com/400dir/excl_iryna_bodnaruk_36.gif

torus

05-09-2009, 03:41 AM

Too bad that you adhere to the strictures of language and grammar. Far too orderly...Wouldn't ACTS of chaos and discord speak louder than "this"?
You know, igniting city hall just for fun! Random acts of arson etc...

mrerisian

05-09-2009, 04:09 AM

Not real proof is it and 'mine' what religion do i follow, don't judge me.

It's not your religion I was talking about - it was your God. Like I said, Eris predates Him.

Too bad that you adhere to the strictures of language and grammar. Far too orderly...Wouldn't ACTS of chaos and discord speak louder than "this"?
You know, igniting city hall just for fun! Random acts of arson etc...

I wouldn't consider that to be fun. If it's in your will I suggest you try it.

Unlike Christians Discordians do not try to copy the ways of their Goddess. You are the instrument which makes order from chaos. YOU are the logical principle within the chaos. We just recognise who is ultimately in charge here.