Mark of Beast on forehead/hand

[weddings]

Why do you think the mark of the beast (the RFID chip most probably) will go on either the forehead of the hand (according to scrupture)?

[suicidal_martyr]

Yeh, wonder when the chip implant thing is going to be introduced. Would like to see the outcome of townhall meetings on that one. I doubt it will ever be pulled off, NWO scum is going to crumble in due time. Scripture or not, I won't take no damn chip, we are organic beings not fricking robots or computers you can just place chips in. if you think about it, the powers that be really have no power at all. They just took over and we believe its normal. Tables will turn in time, evil can't just keep prevailing. Karma needs to get off her butt, vacation time is over.

[libertad101]

I've heard it's most suitable due to body temperature or something of that nature, if I recall correctly, let me look for the video..

[libertad101]

The Satanic Illuminati Conspiracy
look this series up in youtube, there's a part where a man is speaking in a church about it, and he (reportedly) helped design/manufacture/etc. the chip.

[amethyst]

Maybe it's the chip or maybe it's a MARK, a tatoo.....a symbol of loyalty to someone or something....

The forehead.....the seat of decision making

The hand.......following thru on a decision

Could be one or the other...

Do you choose to take the MARK of the beast (according to scripture)or do you choose not to?

That is the question....

[aura]

It seems like there pushing the RFID chip soon, due to the whole Swine Flu.
Wonder how quick this will be used futher - once people are used to the idea.

Next step in Swine Flu/H1N1: Microchip implants
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79430

[angelx666]

have you see yet Obama-care bill yet ? http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

you wont get healtcare without chip !

....
The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable?

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

http://www.verichipcorp.com/
http://www.healthlinkinfo.com/

its no 'conspiracy theory' anymore but reality- due to Obamarama

[solarwindspirit]

Well,


guess it's all coming to a 'head' with the two world currency. . .

one world currency of water with flouride

and the verichip. . technology. . .how clever. . .I guess Obama look like of solomon doesn't really have a key does he? Lest it's been by evolution since today he doesn't have a female curvature than that of ancient days. . .although they are now polluting the waters with antiandrogens and turning male fish to females. . .But I like him because he is a natural. . .look alike unlike some alien species. . .on the planet today

and the stone cut out without hands. . .at the bottom of the ocean. . .it's square several miles high that caused the tsaunami

Who's to judge the coming days? Is god gonna square with man and just where he sits?

I wonder. . .perhaps the world will turn literally upside down

This is all avoidable. . .but when we stray from the percepts of a divine plan and that which is not in harmony with gods laws. . .it will culminate.

morgellons. . .(robotics disease) and chemtrails. . .and other 'harmless' things against humanity. . .god forbid if a child is born with the disease. ..there's no hope for man. .

the termites have already gnawed their way up the staff. . .

god will not be mocked (or judges against the truth with that set before you) I bet his sitting there wondering what to do with all the outer space junk too. . .what do you bet?


No healthcare no needles. . .great with me:-) His pseudo church. . . They give us psuedo explanations but it doesn't have psuedo ramifications

[deem]

They'l mostly push it 'to protect the children.' Thats why they let the peados roam the streets letting them prey on our kids instead of keeping them locked up. Then the next step would be to chip them at birth as a matter of course like the birthcert. Kids in the future will get chippyday cards. Parents would be easily, more willing to have their kids chipped than themselves. In a matter of 50 years the tradition to chip the newborns would be the every day thing, the unchipped would get fewer and fewer then cease to be.:D

[chocousbro77]

i aint getting no damn chip or scanning barcode on my damn body.....my ass will fucking fight if that was trynna be pushed upon me....

[phildee3]

Why do you think the mark of the beast (the RFID chip most probably) will go on either the forehead of the hand (according to scrupture)?



On the hand primarily -
because that's the most convienient place have it to swipe the bar-code machines.

On the forehead as backup.
In case someone loses their hand, or is otherwise unable to do the swipe themselves, the forehead is the most convienient place for the machine operator to swipe with a hand-held reader.

[arty2000]

Maybe it's the chip or maybe it's a MARK, a tatoo.....a symbol of loyalty to someone or something....

The forehead.....the seat of decision making

The hand.......following thru on a decision

Could be one or the other...

Do you choose to take the MARK of the beast (according to scripture)or do you choose not to?

That is the question....

or maybe thats another smokescreen and it could be in the vaccines:)

[solarwindspirit]

or maybe thats another smokescreen and it could be in the vaccines:)



you don't see the hand and the forehead as 'one' darlin

you're right. . .it isnt today LOL what rationalizing

intellectual knowledge can do for you. . .which will

side track you from your innate wisdom and

intelligence. . .but

sadly today they are simple starting over on the same path
.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr__EgM3c9U




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d50yPLNEgvY

[derekiscool]

have you see yet Obama-care bill yet ? http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

you wont get healtcare without chip !

....
The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable?

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

http://www.verichipcorp.com/
http://www.healthlinkinfo.com/

its no 'conspiracy theory' anymore but reality- due to Obamarama

wtf?

[decim]

Those who have had the jab & those that haven't.

[ectocooler hic]

I've heard it's most suitable due to body temperature or something of that nature, if I recall correctly, let me look for the video..

Yep, that was it..recommended places for body temp. very interesting and too much of a coincidence imo. Especially the you won't be able to "buy or sell" without it part. A little too close to home. And people say the bible is broad

[bobbydiva]

They already have them for dogs etc - its getting closer. All we need to an exploited Madelin McCan and some news saying "get your kids chipped"

[anthony65]

Yep, that was it..recommended places for body temp. very interesting and too much of a coincidence imo. Especially the you won't be able to "buy or sell" without it part. A little too close to home. And people say the bible is broad

That would be an incredible "coincidence" regardless of whether or not the Bible has been tampered with, written by the Piso family or whatever...

This prophecy is ancient and is now absolutely feasible.

http://www.bibleprophesy.org/666mark.htm

Here are the main verses on 666, the mark of the beast:

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

http://bible.cc/revelation/13-16.htm

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

http://bible.cc/revelation/13-17.htm

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)

http://bible.cc/revelation/13-18.htm

We already have the 666 barcode.

Even 50 years ago, who could have made sense of these lines?

Prophecy anticipating reality?

Reality moulded to meet prophecy?

[tien an]

have you see yet Obama-care bill yet ? http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

you wont get healtcare without chip !

....
The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable?

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

http://www.verichipcorp.com/
http://www.healthlinkinfo.com/

its no 'conspiracy theory' anymore but reality- due to Obamarama

F**k me angelx666, I've just gone cross-eyed trying to find what you quoted...did you bookmark it by any chance?
Can you point me in the right direction?
(They don't even have a search facility within the document...they don't want you to read it!)

thanks in advance,
tian an.

[angelx666]

F**k me angelx666, I've just gone cross-eyed trying to find what you quoted...did you bookmark it by any chance?
Can you point me in the right direction?
(They don't even have a search facility within the document...they don't want you to read it!)

thanks in advance,
tian an.

there's PDF file of the bill somewhere on Internet from where you can search and the rest on verichip website, I'm off to bed, sorey

[deafbred]

Mat 5:29 "If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.

Mat 18:8 "And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire.

Mar 9:43 "And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.

Mar 9:47 "And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell,

Mat 5:30 "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3636232693_e0f7d1fa0d.jpg


Now when you look at this disgusting hand image below, think.. how sick it is to see.. imagine.. how hell is sickening, and how free you'de be, if you lop off your hand, and save your soul and body from being cast into eternal mashing of teeth flame of fire.. - that rotten hand represents your sin, your filth, your cowardice, your unfaithfullness, - all cut off, you don't have to die eternally in the second death hell fire which justice will deliver to those deserving of punishment.




http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2449/3647240704_f35e380577.jpg

It is better for you to enter life(the kingdom of heaven) crippled or lame than be thrown into the eternal fire.


in this video, the women describes at points where 'the implantable chip won't be able to be removed'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrMY9vsiCc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrMY9vsiCc
so one would expect, that , you would have to chop off your hand to remove it. eh...

[armoured_amazon]

Maybe it's the chip or maybe it's a MARK, a tatoo.....a symbol of loyalty to someone or something....

The forehead.....the seat of decision making

The hand.......following thru on a decision

Could be one or the other...

Do you choose to take the MARK of the beast (according to scripture)or do you choose not to?

That is the question....

I wonder how long it will take unbelievers to figure there might just be something to this Scripture stuff?

[eternal_spirit]

Could the mark of the beast be circumcision? Muhammad the anti christ? A Jew helped transcribe Muhammeds visions and messages from Gabriel which became the Koran.

I'll go into more detail about this one day, there's a lot more and it's quite convincing evidence.

OOPs didn't notice the OP sorry you're on about micro-chips, (but ya know the micro chip may not be the mark)

[kidsarocker]

I wonder how long it will take unbelievers to figure there might just be something to this Scripture stuff?

Do you know what is written in the hadiths of Islam about the antichrist? If you want to know if you don't know it yet then don't hesitate to contact me and I'll show you something else that makes the scriptures feasible

[armoured_amazon]

Do you know what is written in the hadiths of Islam about the antichrist? If you want to know if you don't know it yet then don't hesitate to contact me and I'll show you something else that makes the scriptures feasible

No, I don't. Please write it here or PM me. :)

[kidsarocker]

Could the mark of the beast be circumcision? Muhammad the anti christ? A Jew helped transcribe Muhammeds visions and messages from Gabriel which became the Koran.

I'll go into more detail about this one day, there's a lot more and it's quite convincing evidence.

OOPs didn't notice the OP sorry you're on about micro-chips, (but ya know the micro chip may not be the mark)

Why do you think Islam or mohamed is the anti christ? did you know that islam warns of the very same entity as the antichrist, thay call him Dajjal -the one eyed false messiah. How can the false messiah claim to be or pretend to be the messiah if he is Muslim? The antichrist/dajjal will be Jewish, contact me if you want to see more evidence because I'd like to see where you came to the conclusion that Islam are the followers of Satan? lets exchange

[kidsarocker]

No, I don't. Please write it here or PM me. :)

Ok here goes but I first must explain that one of the most formidable weapons that the false Messiah would use to achieve his goal of ruling the world from Jerusalem would be that of reducing mankind to such a state of internal spiritual blindness that they would be incapable of perceiving his diabolical strategies and would thus be deceived.

Every Jewish child knows about, and believes in, a divine promise communicated to the Israelite people in which God promised that history would end with one man, whowould be a Prophet and the Messiah, ruling the whole worldfrom the throne of David in Holy Jerusalem with eternal rule. Jews concluded there-from that history would endwith Pax Judaica (a Judeo-world-order), and with Jerusalemonce more at the center of the world as it was at the time of Solomon.

It is quite remarkable that Muslims and Christians both share with Jews the belief that the historical process would culminate with the Messiah ruling the world with justice from Holy Jerusalem. However, unlike Jews, Muslims and Christians both believe that Jesus, the son of the Virgin Mary, was the divinely promised Messiah. They also both believe that he was raised into the heavens at the time of the attempt to crucify him, and that he would return to rule the world from Jerusalem exactly as divinely prophesied.

Jews, on the other hand, reject Jesus as the Messiah, and await another Messiah who would liberate the Holy Land for Jews, bring them back to the Holy Land to reclaim it as their own, restore the Holy State of Israel in the Holy Land (i.e., the Holy Israel that was created by the Prophets David and Solomon), and then cause that Israel to become the ruling state in the world. That Messiah would then rule the world from Holy Jerusalem with Pax Judaica and bring back the Jewish golden age.

There is compelling evidence that continues to mysteriously unfold in the world that appears to validate the
Jewish claim to truth. After all, the 'liberation' of the Holy Land took place in 1917. Then the world witnessed the subsequent return of the Jews to the Holy Land to reclaim it as their own some 2000 years after they were expelled from it by divine decree. The establishment of the present (imposter) State of Israel then followed in 1948, and subsequently growth of Israel to super-power status in the world became evident. Along the way the Judeo-Christian alliance that brought modern western civilization into being has made steady progress towards the establishment of a world government. It now appears to be only a matter of time before Israel replaces USA

Now the Islamic hadith bukhari description of the antichrist/Dajjal
He will be one eyed (seen this symbol before?)
He will rule for 40 days, 1 day like a year, 1 day like a month, 1 day like a week and the rest of his days like your (our) days where he will appear in our dimension. 1 heavenly day is a 1000 years, therefore doing the maths (in bold) and studying history we clearly see a connection to what God warned us about.

1 Day like a year (1000 years),
From this we know that the British monarchy dated around the year 900 (x1000) = 1900 and that Britain was the superpower of the world (the British Empire) and that the Brittish pound was the currency that the world traded in, after WW1 Britain took over the holyland that was Palestine from the Ottoman empire that collasped and during this time Britain created the Balfour Declaration in support for a Jewish homeland). We can now deduce that the false messiah has liberated the holy land and his work form Britain has been completed.

1 Day like a month (1000/12 = 83.33),
After WW1 Britain handed the title of superpower to the United States and the US dollar soon became the currency that the world will trade in. During this period, WW2 saw the creation of the UN and the establishment of the state of Israel and a mass migration of jews to the holy land. Here we can clearly see that the holy land has been reclaimed along with the return of the Jews. Now the remiaining piece of his work is to restore the holy state of Israel. We can clearly see in todays political world that the US and Israel have a special relatsionship - even more special than the relationship between the US and Britain.

Now he can get to work (ruling form the US) to restore Israel by financial, military and political aid. back to the math 1000/12 = 83.33 years therefore from the declaration of bourfour 1917 + 83.33 = 2000/20001

And now it is time for the Dajjal to move his HQ from the US to Israel and for the US to hand the title of superpower to Israel and how will he achieve that? Somethiing that is happening now..today, by destroying the US dollar to bring down all the paper money system sin the owrld and introduce money you cannot see - electronic money - the new economic system where money is computerised and your wallet has been replaced by some technology to access this system to deduct/add money into your account (remember Revelation 13: 16-18?) Is it dropping yet?

1 day like a week - 1000/52 = 19.2 (2000+19= 2019)

Israel will be the ruling state

And the rest of his day like ours

He will enter our dimension and take the throne of Jerusalem..the Capital of the NWO for 37 Days until the return of the true messiah.

Now do you see how things fit, why the troubles in the middle east are about, why Islam is standing up against this NWO and therefore are sold to the western public as the enemy by our leaders.

From this we should know that it is not Islam that is the enemy and that the common denomonator of Christianity and Islam is the antichrist and that we both worship the one Creator.

This plan is too perfect for humans to have designed and can only lead to a supernatural force - Now do you see the big picture, the grand design - it is time to unite with our muslim brothers and sisters.

For the believers, when you have read what I just posted you should have no problem at all in the connection of the islamic warning and what has and is happening since 1917 and our own christian warnings both given by the same creator. Now how much proof do the unbelievers need that Gopd exists and gave us this warnings in both the hadith and in revelation. As we all know God has his ways of revealing himself to us and works in mysterious ways through signs and symbols, something the unbelievers don't get when they ask the believers why he never shows his face

BTW I am not Muslim, I have just done a lot of research into the Antichrist from both Religions

[amethyst]

I wonder how long it will take unbelievers to figure there might just be something to this Scripture stuff?

Hopefully before it's not too late...ya know, there's so much disinfo goin' around......

[amethyst]

Ok here goes but I first must explain that one of the most formidable weapons that the false Messiah would use to achieve his goal of ruling the world from Jerusalem would be that of reducing mankind to such a state of internal spiritual blindness that they would be incapable of perceiving his diabolical strategies and would thus be deceived.

Every Jewish child knows about, and believes in, a divine promise communicated to the Israelite people in which God promised that history would end with one man, whowould be a Prophet and the Messiah, ruling the whole worldfrom the throne of David in Holy Jerusalem with eternal rule. Jews concluded there-from that history would endwith Pax Judaica (a Judeo-world-order), and with Jerusalemonce more at the center of the world as it was at the time of Solomon.

It is quite remarkable that Muslims and Christians both share with Jews the belief that the historical process would culminate with the Messiah ruling the world with justice from Holy Jerusalem. However, unlike Jews, Muslims and Christians both believe that Jesus, the son of the Virgin Mary, was the divinely promised Messiah. They also both believe that he was raised into the heavens at the time of the attempt to crucify him, and that he would return to rule the world from Jerusalem exactly as divinely prophesied.

Jews, on the other hand, reject Jesus as the Messiah, and await another Messiah who would liberate the Holy Land for Jews, bring them back to the Holy Land to reclaim it as their own, restore the Holy State of Israel in the Holy Land (i.e., the Holy Israel that was created by the Prophets David and Solomon), and then cause that Israel to become the ruling state in the world. That Messiah would then rule the world from Holy Jerusalem with Pax Judaica and bring back the Jewish golden age.

There is compelling evidence that continues to mysteriously unfold in the world that appears to validate the
Jewish claim to truth. After all, the 'liberation' of the Holy Land took place in 1917. Then the world witnessed the subsequent return of the Jews to the Holy Land to reclaim it as their own some 2000 years after they were expelled from it by divine decree. The establishment of the present (imposter) State of Israel then followed in 1948, and subsequently growth of Israel to super-power status in the world became evident. Along the way the Judeo-Christian alliance that brought modern western civilization into being has made steady progress towards the establishment of a world government. It now appears to be only a matter of time before Israel replaces USA

Now the Islamic hadith bukhari description of the antichrist/Dajjal
He will be one eyed (seen this symbol before?)
He will rule for 40 days, 1 day like a year, 1 day like a month, 1 day like a week and the rest of his days like your (our) days where he will appear in our dimension. 1 heavenly day is a 1000 years, therefore doing the maths (in bold) and studying history we clearly see a connection to what God warned us about.

1 Day like a year (1000 years),
From this we know that the British monarchy dated around the year 900 (x1000) = 1900 and that Britain was the superpower of the world (the British Empire) and that the Brittish pound was the currency that the world traded in, after WW1 Britain took over the holyland that was Palestine from the Ottoman empire that collasped and during this time Britain created the Balfour Declaration in support for a Jewish homeland). We can now deduce that the false messiah has liberated the holy land and his work form Britain has been completed.

1 Day like a month (1000/12 = 83.33),
After WW1 Britain handed the title of superpower to the United States and the US dollar soon became the currency that the world will trade in. During this period, WW2 saw the creation of the UN and the establishment of the state of Israel and a mass migration of jews to the holy land. Here we can clearly see that the holy land has been reclaimed along with the return of the Jews. Now the remiaining piece of his work is to restore the holy state of Israel. We can clearly see in todays political world that the US and Israel have a special relatsionship - even more special than the relationship between the US and Britain.

Now he can get to work (ruling form the US) to restore Israel by financial, military and political aid. back to the math 1000/12 = 83.33 years therefore from the declaration of bourfour 1917 + 83.33 = 2000/20001

And now it is time for the Dajjal to move his HQ from the US to Israel and for the US to hand the title of superpower to Israel and how will he achieve that? Somethiing that is happening now..today, by destroying the US dollar to bring down all the paper money system sin the owrld and introduce money you cannot see - electronic money - the new economic system where money is computerised and your wallet has been replaced by some technology to access this system to deduct/add money into your account (remember Revelation 13: 16-18?) Is it dropping yet?

1 day like a week - 1000/52 = 19.2 (2000+19= 2019)

Israel will be the ruling state

And the rest of his day like ours

He will enter our dimension and take the throne of Jerusalem..the Capital of the NWO for 37 Days until the return of the true messiah.

Now do you see how things fit, why the troubles in the middle east are about, why Islam is standing up against this NWO and therefore are sold to the western public as the enemy by our leaders.

From this we should know that it is not Islam that is the enemy and that the common denomonator of Christianity and Islam is the antichrist and that we both worship the one Creator.

This plan is too perfect for humans to have designed and can only lead to a supernatural force - Now do you see the big picture, the grand design - it is time to unite with our muslim brothers and sisters.

For the believers, when you have read what I just posted you should have no problem at all in the connection of the islamic warning and what has and is happening since 1917 and our own christian warnings both given by the same creator. Now how much proof do the unbelievers need that Gopd exists and gave us this warnings in both the hadith and in revelation. As we all know God has his ways of revealing himself to us and works in mysterious ways through signs and symbols, something the unbelievers don't get when they ask the believers why he never shows his face

BTW I am not Muslim, I have just done a lot of research into the Antichrist from both Religions

That's interesting......

[eternal_spirit]

Does it give a number in the Bible or Koran of how many people will have the mark:confused:

[eternal_spirit]

Death of kaffirs/infidels by a Muslim suicide Bomber and those fighting Jihad for Allah will reward them in heaven with 72 mansions with 72 rooms with 72 virgins -
72 (7+2) = 9
72 (7+2) =9
72 (7+2) =9
= 999 = reversed 666 :eek:

:D



The symbol to me looks like a eclipse a sun with a moon in front plus a inverted pentagram (probably Venus which ties to Lucifer) fallen angel Satan! (islmvslizards had an avatar that he's since changed and I can't find it anywhere on the net, that's what I was describing here.
So this is as close as I can get with another pic

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/islam-moon-goddess.jpg

Hence moon shadow, sun, moon and Venus/Lucifer worship. Some claim Baphomet is (Mahomet)
= Mohammed. Hermaphrodite, yes they say there's a man in the moon



Followers of
Baphomet "Goat of Mendes". Mahomet aka "Muhammed".


http://www.hailsatan.co.uk/Images/baphomet.png

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_002/baphomet.gif

Bear with me. If the anti christ was the opposite of Christ then Muhammad would make a good candidate, killing looting raping slave owner etc. (the false prophet) who many will follow and emulate his behaviour.

Qur'an 48:29 essentially denies the Golden Rule, by restricting benevolence only to fellow Muslims:
"Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” (Qur'an, Sura 48:29).
Ibn Ishaq: 204 - “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”


Ibn Ishaq:231 - “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”

From an Indian Sufi Muslim 'saint', demolishing the comforting myth that the mystical Sufis are somehow 'nicer' and gentler than other Muslims, the following remarks:
"The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. {NOTE: the zero sum game. I win means you lose. You win means I have lost! No concept that win/win, compromise, equality, etc. are even possible}
"One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims...
"The real purpose of levying jiziya {i.e. 'protection' money, mafia-style} on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur.
"They should constantly remain terrified and trembling.
"It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honour and might of Islam".
Sufi saint Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624), letter #163


And as reported by American missionary and observer of the Muslim world, Samuel Zwemer, in "Moslem World," Vol. 10, pp. 154-155) -
"A few years ago one of the leading Moslems of Baghdad wrote, in an article for a French journal entitled, 'The Final Word of Islam to Europe':
- ‘For us {Muslims} in the world there are only believers and unbelievers; love, charity, fraternity toward believers; contempt, disgust, hatred, and war against unbelievers.'"
Gang mentality, gang warfare, just scaled-up onto a global level. The Ummah vs the Rest.
Let's finish off with the lapidary quote from Joseph Schacht's "An Introduction to Islamic Law":
'the basis of the Islamic attitude towards unbelievers is the law of war; they must be either converted, or subjugated, or killed."


he goat represents fire and is at the same time the symbol of generation. Two goats, one pure and one impure, were consecrated in Judea; the first was sacrificed in expiation for sins; the other, loaded with those sins by imprecation, was set at liberty in the desert – a strange ordinance, but one of deep symbolism, signifying reconciliation by sacrifice and expiation by liberty! Now, all the fathers of the Church, who have concerned themselves with Jewish symbolism, have recognized in the immolated goat the figure of Him Who assumed, as they say, the very form of sin. Hence the Gnostics were not outside symbolical traditions when they assigned this same mystical figure to Christ the Liberator. All the Kabalah and all Magic, as a fact, are divided between the cultus of the immolated and that of the emissary goat. We must recognize therefore a Magic of the Sanctuary and that of the wilderness, the White and the Black Church, the priesthood of public assemblies and the Sanhedrim of the Sabbath. The goat which is represented in our frontispiece bears upon its forehead the Sign of the Pentagram with one point in the ascendant, which is sufficient to distinguish it as a symbol of the light. Moreover, the sign of occultism is made with both hands, pointing upward to the white moon of Chesed, and downward to the black moon of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect concord between mercy and justice. One of the arms is feminine and the other masculine, as in the androgyne of Khunrath, those attributes we have combined with those of our goat, since they are one and the same symbol. The torch of intelligence burning between the horns is the magical light of universal equilibrium; it is also the type of the soul, exalted above matter, even while cleaving to matter, as the flame cleaves to the torch. The monstrous head of the animal expresses horror of sin, for which the material agent, alone responsible, must alone and for ever bear the penalty, because the soul is impassible in its nature and can suffer only by materializing. The caduceus, which, replaces the generative organ, represents eternal life; the scale-covered belly typifies water; the circle above it is the atmosphere, the feathers still higher up signify the volatile; lastly, humanity is depicted by the two breasts and the androgyne arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences. Behold the shadows of the infernal sanctuary dissipated! Behold the sphinx of mediaeval terrors unveiled and cast from his throne! Quomodo cedidisti, Lucifer!

I have another theory based on circumcision and other topics may get round to it one day.

[kidsarocker]

Does it give a number in the Bible or Koran of how many people will have the mark:confused:

Now I know you have not read the Qur'an, the Dajjal is not mentioned in the Qur'an but in the Hadiths that complement the Qur'an.

So if I were you I'd shut up about stuff you have no knowledge about

[eternal_spirit]

Now I know you have not read the Qur'an, the Dajjal is not mentioned in the Qur'an but in the Hadiths that complement the Qur'an.

So if I were you I'd shut up about stuff you have no knowledge about
Wahhh shut up ya big baby.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00521/SNN01BB04A-280_521181a.jpg

You said the Mahdi was the anti christ before LOL proves how much you know.
Stop trying to be a smart ass and answer my question.


Jeez I know what a bleedin hadith is . Only thing you got right is I have not read ALL the Koran and have no intention of ever doing so, same goes for the Bible.

[kidsarocker]

Bear with me. If the anti christ was the opposite of Christ then Muhammad would make a good candidate, killing looting raping slave owner etc. (the false prophet) who many will follow and emulate his behaviour..

A Muslim is not a good candidate to impersonate the Messiah. Jesus was Jewish..therefore the false Messiah must come from the house of David.

[kidsarocker]

Wahhh shut up ya big baby.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00521/SNN01BB04A-280_521181a.jpg

You said the Mahdi was the anti christ before LOL proves how much you know.
Stop trying to be a smart ass and answer my question.




I did not say the Mahdi was the antichrist, I said that people will claim that he is.

Anyway thanks for the pic, nearly pissed myself laughing..its good to have a sense of humor..cheers

[eternal_spirit]

I did not say the Mahdi was the antichrist, I said that people will claim that he is.

Anyway thanks for the pic, nearly pissed myself laughing..its good to have a sense of humor..cheers
Cool :D

The six pointed star is associated with the worship of Saturn. Therefore, the beast is Saturn (Satan) and his mark is the 6-pointed star." Oh snap, 666. Maybe. PS my Muhammad anti christ post was made half jokingly satire tbh, just seeing what I could come up with easy to make stuff up with numbers and symbols.

[weddings]

Maybe it's the chip or maybe it's a MARK, a tatoo.....a symbol of loyalty to someone or something....

The forehead.....the seat of decision making

The hand.......following thru on a decision

Could be one or the other...

Do you choose to take the MARK of the beast (according to scripture)or do you choose not to?

That is the question....

I won't be taking it but it will cost people their lives most probably, but they will have eternity to look forward to.

[weddings]

Maybe it's the chip or maybe it's a MARK, a tatoo.....a symbol of loyalty to someone or something....

The forehead.....the seat of decision making

The hand.......following thru on a decision

Could be one or the other...

Do you choose to take the MARK of the beast (according to scripture)or do you choose not to?

That is the question....

I won't be taking it but it will cost people their lives most probably, but they will have eternity to look forward to.

[marpat]

Jews wear little pouches containing biblical phrases on the hand and on their head. I think that the mark is meant as a reference to these ritual items. A lot of it also depends on what you think the beast represents.

[let it shine]

may God bless you, kidsarocker, and guide you on the straight path always.

this thread has put the fear of God back into me. that video with the woman talking about the swine flu virus vaccine, road blocks, and that bracelet...i can't even put into words what i feel after viewing that. definitely a reality check.

but the main reason for this post is in response to eternal_spirit. (hi.) i am a muslim. i officially reverted during this last ramadan, after nearly ten years of spiritual study and truth seeking. i am not sure if i have the patience to dissect your tirade against islam at this hour, however i would like to make a few points:

suicide is a grave sin in islam. there are many hadiths warning against suicide. in bukhari, janaiz 84: "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."

murder is the second-worst sin one can commit, the first is associating partners to God. in the quran, surah maa'idah, chapter 5, verse 32: "On account of this We prescribed (this Commandment in the Torah sent down) to the Children of Israel that whoever killed a person (unjustly), except as a punishment for murder or for (spreading) disorder in the land (i.e. punishment for bloodshed and robbery etc.), it would be as if he killed all the people (of society); and whoever (saved him from unjust murder and) made him survive, it would be as if he saved the lives of all the people (of society; i.e. he rescued the collective system of human life). And indeed Our Messengers came to them with evident Signs. Yet, even after that, the majority from among these people are certainly those who commit excesses in the land."

it is not for me to make judgements about these suicide bombers, but i personally think they are sorely misguided. i would also like to point out that the majority of muslims i have come to know frown upon their actions. whether God will have mercy for these terrorists is not for any man to say.

i'm not sure if i need to say this, but 'jihad' means 'struggle' in arabic. i am performing jihad by the writing of this communication.

it is important to note that evil has infiltrated all parts of this world in the present time. you can't spit without hitting some illuminati symbol anymore. it is distressing to me that this symbolism has made its way into my religion, but it is something that also keeps me very focused on God. i must stress that a belief in paganism and the worship of symbols goes against the nature of islam. the crescent moon and star are pagan symbols that predate islam, and they are only associated with islam because of their widespread use within the ottoman empire. there really is no 'official' symbol for islam, and in fact many muslims reject the concept of taking a symbol for our religion, much less a pagan one, as doing this can lead to the worst sin one can commit: shirk, or associating partners to God.

mohammed was a man and a prophet of God. he was not a transexual devil-worshipping pirate rapist. he fought a people given in to great sin, to the teeth, with bravery we only wish we had. can't you see that what he fought against is exactly what we here at these forums are fighting against? mohammed fought for the truth and the right and for God.

you must understand that the false prophet is the antichrist that is yet to come. we do believe in jesus and we do follow his teachings and a day will come when jesus will come back to this earth. the false prophet is the dajaal that kidsarocker was telling you about.

as for sufism, the quran specifically states that there are to be no sects in islam. these sufis aren't catering to God, but to themselves and the devil. also, there are no 'saints' in islam.

you are condemning a whole religion and all of it's followers based on hearsay, misinterpretation, and fear. congratulations, you are exactly where "they" want you to be. i highly recommend that you take the time to read the quran so you may understand what our belief system is about.

PEACE.

[let it shine]

Cool :D

The six pointed star is associated with the worship of Saturn. Therefore, the beast is Saturn (Satan) and his mark is the 6-pointed star." Oh snap, 666. Maybe. PS my Muhammad anti christ post was made half jokingly satire tbh, just seeing what I could come up with easy to make stuff up with numbers and symbols.

ugh. now i see it. not funny. this is serious stuff, man. wise up.

peace.

[deafbred]

Why do you think the mark of the beast (the RFID chip most probably) will go on either the forehead of the hand (according to scrupture)?

All i can say about the chip program is that i heard rockefeller on tv the past few days talking healthcare.

arron rusoo who died recently and is/was a friend of a rockefeller said that the rockefeller said to him that it is their desire/plan to have everyone microchipped in the near future.

that said. im listening to jd rockefeller in the congress talk about medicare and a prgram called CHIPS, the 'CHIP program' he says. and he's talking about children. also..

during the healthcare meeting medicare council in the chambers of congress.. he speaks like this.. things like this, speaking in the LIVE~here and now~consciousness stream of real reality life, truth brought to the surface in understanding totality.

he says.. "what are we going to do about the children in the CHIPS program" and things like


"yeah but the CHAIRMANS MARK" 'MARK' 'THE CHAIRMANS '''MARK''''''


he speaks these words, and it is obvious what they mean when uttered in backroom dealings. when you put it into prespective, the CHAIRMAN, who is the 'CHAIRMAN' who sits on the CHAIR? yes it is a council member and in congress. but when you think about it.. 'THE CHAIRMAN' 'THE MARK' its obviously has to be LUCIFER. Sitting on the Chair and soon to be on the rise. Obama took a CHAIR on the UN seating council. and 'mark' being ''mark of the beast'''

it would be cool if i made a youtube video and recorded these people on C-SPAN speaking and then showed you how i see/hear it.

Rockefeller:
"the chairman's mark" "the chips program for children"

they use the word CHIPS for the program they created

CHIPS program in MEDICARE


it can't get any more in your face- the trouble is, i hear them saying

"yeh, but how do we impliment it"




they scurry and stumble and mumble and go on. conditioning us slowly over time. soon it will be acceptable, words that would previously seem and be blasfimous or wicked. "unspeakable"