Any way to UNREGISTER a BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

[michellebrouse]

Hi everyone,

Just found out about this forum, and would like to know (since I haven't been through many of the posts yet) - is there a way that I can "un-register" my children's birth certificates?

Both were born before we were married, so the marriage license would not matter I'm thinking - in that case. But I didn't have the knowledge that I am gathering now on the birth certifications, straw men and the like.

Is it possible to get them un-registered in any way?

Thanks!
Michelle

[yozhik]

From a suggestion from burnttoast in another thread, I am looking into the "Revocation of Signature" process to do exactly this.

Well worth looking into.

[merlincove]

many of us are working on this Michelle, it is a work in progress.

keep your ears peeled for some news via john harris, he has been working on it too.

[thegoodnessisgood]

Hi everyone,

Just found out about this forum, and would like to know (since I haven't been through many of the posts yet) - is there a way that I can "un-register" my children's birth certificates?

Both were born before we were married, so the marriage license would not matter I'm thinking - in that case. But I didn't have the knowledge that I am gathering now on the birth certifications, straw men and the like.

Is it possible to get them un-registered in any way?

Thanks!
Michelle

the act of informant that the parents played which gave weight to the document the government created, which birthed the legal fiction which the state is owner of, (as creator) means it is their property. However, because they don't want to admit that out in the open, you can claim that and copyclaim and / or trade mark the name in all capitol letters as a transmitting utility, thereby making YOU the holder in due course. This is like saying your name is like Coca cola and nobody else can use that name for commerce (unless they already have that name) or like for a better example, Jim Plumber, who is a plumber and trades under "his" own name. (it is really not the same thing).

You are not your name, you go by it.

Another way that is more sophisticated is with :Judge: David-Wynn: Miller's "claim of the life" which is free to do but you need to study about 50 - 200 hours of his technology before you would probably be competent to do it unless somebody is helping you who knows how to do it properly.

What this basically does is salvages and stops and corrects and birth certificate as a document. It says "I see the error in this document and I have the volition to stop and correct what I see is wrong, becuase I am the claimant with knowledge to do so, with the highest claim and the highest knowledge" it's very powerful and basically the best I've seen. You must know how to use it though and it's like any of this technology - it's no joke if you can't back it up if tested, it may not help at all.

This does as far as I am aware in a lawful sense completely remove joinder that the state has over you the living person as being surety for their created fiction (slave). You are now saying you are a living person with a claim of life that they cannot any longer assume you are surety because you have evidence to show you are not. The punctuation of the name further distinguishes the living person from the legal fiction, which is also captured under maritime salvage with an autograph and seal through the birth certificate. Nobody from the state can do this or claim higher knowledge of the facts. So it's pretty air tight excuse the maritime pun...

In my opinion the whole thing is a moot point. There was no full disclosure given, the trust / certificate is usually in a box, with italisized letters and or other voidance of contract features. The lack of full disclosure means the concept that a trust and or contract was created by the informants (parents) is really null and void and is all based on assumption / presumption. In other words it only really matters if you believe it does and / or do or do not have the knowledge to back that claim up (that it does not hold weight). It is not you, it's just a piece of paper.

[hagbard_celine]

many of us are working on this Michelle, it is a work in progress.

keep your ears peeled for some news via john harris, he has been working on it too.

Thanks, MC:). I want to do this. I've destroyed my own copy, but I want the original voided too.

[burnttoast]

Hi everyone,

Just found out about this forum, and would like to know (since I haven't been through many of the posts yet) - is there a way that I can "un-register" my children's birth certificates?

Both were born before we were married, so the marriage license would not matter I'm thinking - in that case. But I didn't have the knowledge that I am gathering now on the birth certifications, straw men and the like.

Is it possible to get them un-registered in any way?

Thanks!
Michelle

I would personally advise against un-registering, but rather reversing the certification of the BC....as the certificate holder is the beneficiary and holder of the document, the same can be done by the holder back to the grantor of the document who sits as the trustee.

In other words, there is a remedy which provides the certificate holder the right to accept and return with claim AS TRUSTEE to the BC bond.

They gave you certification, now you certified it right back....

For more info I highly suggest listening to the Introduction Mp3's at the Creditorsincommerce.com (http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/audio-living-temple.php) website (actually all of the audio's are excellent), which does go into the BC bond breakdown (private and public) aspects...

Peace

[rosix]

yea I'm wanting to take control and be the captain of my vessel in the sea of commerce, not to abandon ship and chill on an island :P

[skaarlaw]

Get the original copy.
Get your parents to rip it apart.

As far as I know, registration is a contract, if you want to revoke your registration, you can do so by cancelling the contract saying "X is the owner, X is the registered keeper"

Not 100% sure, but it seems simplistic yet suprisingly logical to me.

[burnttoast]

Get the original copy.
Get your parents to rip it apart.

As far as I know, registration is a contract, if you want to revoke your registration, you can do so by cancelling the contract saying "X is the owner, X is the registered keeper"

Not 100% sure, but it seems simplistic yet suprisingly logical to me.

Ripping apart the original "copy" won't unregister or revoke the contract..if you revoke your contract of the trust....it will be very, very difficult to maneauvre in the commerced based society system....if you don't know how to bond the resources now entrenched with your current contracts with the public. You could be doing more harm than good.....with great power comes great responsibility (Spiderman 1)

Another angle as previously mentioned would be to take control of the "trust" of the BC...you already do...but put it on public record via a notice to the affected parties you wish to address. The BC is a POWERFUL tool....look at it as a gift. It's up to you to research and use it in your favour.

Peace

[theoneandonly]

There was me thinking a Birth Cirtificate was like a congratulations you have been born :rolleyes: ohh how decieved we are in this world :P

[michellebrouse]

Wow, lots of information to digest here.

Some of it a bit over my head, although I only read through once here so far. I'll have to go back and re-read again.

Thanks so much everyone, looking forward to figuring a LOT of this stuff out. Been slammed in the "graphic mines" for too long, and just now getting a chance to peek above water long enough to get back to my post here.

The new vid on this homepage (David Icke's) was one that again irritated me. I get a bit angry when I hear all the stuff they are planning without public knowledge. I know I shouldn't get angry and it's all an illusion/game - a program - but it still irks me.

Leads me to believe there isn't much more TIME to figure it out - before some goofball comes busting through our door trying to force a vaccine down our throats, and cutting off our food supply if we don't comply.

I have a lot of missions at this time is seems, mostly to protect my family and my kids first. Stockpile some food, water, and other supplies, figure out how to get out of the system, figure out a way to keep my kids out of the main grid, etc and so on.

To do all that I need some CASH. (yep, even though it's nothing but a piece of paper that others base their TRUST on) - it's the current method of trade. Therefore I've been trading a lot of time for online graphics, just to get my numbers in the paypal account up enough to trade for the supplies I think we'll need around here to survive the onslaughts.

Hoping to do everything we can peacefully first - lots to do on "un-controlling" our minds. Kind of like "un-schooling" for kids who have been in the public school system for any long period of time. Thankfully, my oldest had nothing but good experiences with preschool, and my youngest hasn't been privy to any of it.

And. luckily - my family, kids are pretty open minded. Enough to listen to some of my goofy tirades on this or that, and the hubby is totally behind me on canning/saving/buying food and other supplies. We'd love to be off the grid.

So far this year, we've grown a ton of veggies, have canned strawberry jam, green beans, peppers, corn, salsa, and we're working on tomato juice tomorrow in fact. We have a lot of old heirloom seeds saved. We LOVE growing our own food! :D

We have MMS - and are looking to purchase some vaccination cleansers that were PM'd to me from some other real nice folks - plus good clean water. My boys have been taking MMS for a few days now, cause they picked up a bug - and it's wonderful to see they are not going downhill, but UP instead.

Colds usually hit my youngest pretty hard, move into his lungs, and he has them for two weeks. This time I started with one drop of MMS the night he started coming down with a cold, and in 3 days now - he's starting to clear up already, without the nasty junk in his chest. He's had about 5 doses of one drop.

My oldest started requesting MMS today, and has had 3 doses of 2 drops on his request, cause he doesn't want to get sick - and knew it was coming with a sore throat that started last night.

Even I had what felt like swollen glands in my throat and an ear issue - took about 3 doses of 3-5 drops, and feel great now. I think everyone should have that in their house - even if they just use it to clean water in case things get ugly.

We get ours from Dennis Richard - from this page http://www.miraclemineral.org/links.php - heh. I see his blog is down. Go figure.

Now I'm just rambling, and need to get back to work - so I apologize for the delay on this post. Usually I don't ask a question, then not show back up for the answer - but been busier than a long tailed cat in a room full of rockin' chairs!

Keep me posted if you find out anything, and I'll do the same. Some days my research time is at the bottom of the barrel, until I get everything else done.

But thanks!
Michelle

[juttkeys]

There was me thinking a Birth Cirtificate was like a congratulations you have been born :rolleyes: ohh how decieved we are in this world :P


Totally with you on that one! I never even thought about it before I recently started looking into it, Why the fuck should any living being born have to have some form of 'certificate'?? it's as 'important' as being 'christened' both are forms of control only difference is that one is more devious and slave like than the other... which one? either choice of answer is correct IMO.

no registration nor christening necessary for me thanks..... unless you intend to enslave me (at an early age when im too young to understand) that is

devious bastards all !

[deem]

The admiralty/law of the sea. Most ships have female names, and bring products across the sea. The pregnant bondslave female is regarded in the same way as a vessal, the babyproduct sits in the womb in water as does the cargo in a ship. Before birth/berth, it comes down the birth 'canal' to berth/birth at the dock/doc-tor. Any products that come off a ship and onto land are registered, in the same way are children. Once registered it all belongs to tptb. Everything we think we own, is only for our equity use. Same as our kids, equity use.Everything in admiraty law and commerce have terms related to the sea; Capital/Captain, currency/current, the flow of money, Bank and so on. :( Theres even a link with seamen, a ship and semen, female vessal. All relative terms.

[scottmurray]

Hi everyone,

Just found out about this forum, and would like to know (since I haven't been through many of the posts yet) - is there a way that I can "un-register" my children's birth certificates?

Both were born before we were married, so the marriage license would not matter I'm thinking - in that case. But I didn't have the knowledge that I am gathering now on the birth certifications, straw men and the like.

Is it possible to get them un-registered in any way?

Thanks!
Michellei have just discovered that the procees can be reversed until the child is seven years old just not yet sure how

[hagbard_celine]

There are posters on the walls on the maternity department of my hospital that say:

"Remember mothers, you can register your baby's birth here before you go home."

The bastards are keen to get us swimming into the net as soon as possible,:mad::rolleyes::(

[wildhorse]

ok...I am wondering if I can un-register my baby girl before she gets adopted :confused:

(just had dejavu of writing this post - weird)

[girlgye]

Well I won't be revoking mine. Nosireee.

[girlgye]

ok...I am wondering if I can un-register my baby girl before she gets adopted :confused:

(just had dejavu of writing this post - weird)

come again?

Is that you on the avatar mrs?

[wildhorse]

come again?



:D

aye its me...gunna do a winter version...turtle neck fleece zipped all the way up :rolleyes:

[ms hope]

i have just discovered that the procees can be reversed until the child is seven years old just not yet sure how

Are you talking about lost at sea until 7 years & great fire of London

would you care to share what you have discovered or are there any further up-dates ?