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miracles

17-08-2009, 04:45 PM

I have put this together simply as a record of what the Christian faith actually means. You don't have to belive it, but this is it.

John 14:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&v=6&t=NKJV#6)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Evidently no one gets near God with out going through Jesus first.

What does Jesus mean by this? Let’s open our eyes.

Gen 3:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=3&v=5&t=KJV#5)
For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Gen 3:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=3&v=7&t=KJV#7)
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew…

What happened here? It talks about eyes, where they physically blind before? I would suggest no they weren’t. So what happened? Some go as far as to say Satan was doing man a favor here, like opening our eyes to see what God sees so that we can be just like God. I don’t buy that for a New York second. What happened was that they knew good and evil. Before this they only knew “good”, they where innocent. Now knowing and seeing it in the spiritual, they knew they had done an evil thing. Where they now evil? Maybe, maybe not) they where out of fellowship with God, who is “all that is good”.

As the story goes, this is called “the fall of mankind” This is where sin and death entered into the equation, spiritual death and spiritual blindness. Their eyes where opened to their death and sin. What a horrible wake up call. Thanks Satan. Yeah right! I happen to believe that Adam and Eve, whilst they reaped the consequence of their sins, God saved them with the promise of the saviour in Gen 3:14. Not only that; he made the first sacrifice of an innocent animal in order to cover their sins and their nakedness, which was both physical and spiritual nakedness. He got it sorted right there and then for Adam and Eve. They were forgiven.

Num 22:31 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Num&c=22&v=31&t=KJV#31)
Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

The Lord opened his eyes to see into the “Spiritual Realm”. You can have this too, no I’m not talking about seeing angels and demons and what have you. I’m talking about spiritual vision too see what’s really going on in the world. IE what our so called leaders are up to, including religious institutions that allege to be Christian but aren’t!

2Ki 6:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ki&c=6&v=17&t=KJV#17)
And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

I believe Elisha saw these things literally, God opened his spiritual eyes, and He opens ours up to see it in His word. When we look into Gods word we look into the spiritual realm. God’s word can not, not, touch you on a spiritual level. It’s guaranteed too.

Isa 35:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=35&v=5&t=KJV#5)
Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

This is referring to a spiritual awakening.

Mat 9:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=9&v=30&t=KJV#30)
And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it.

Jesus didn’t want others to know yet what this spiritual awakening had shown them. What was it? That He was God in the flesh. They couldn’t see it before even though he had been with them for three years. Even after witnessing many of the miracles Jesus did the apostle Philip still wasn’t convinced as to who he was, and he asked for another sign. In order to see who He is; Jesus must open our spiritual eyes. He still does it today IE Opens people’s spiritual eyes in a spiritual way.

Mat 20:33 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=20&v=33&t=KJV#33)
They say unto him, Lord, that our eyes may be opened.

Luk 24:31 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=24&v=31&t=KJV#31)
And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

They asked the Lord to open their eyes, and He opened them and they knew who he was.
Pray this simple prayer: Lord; if you are who you say you are, please open my eyes to the truth.

Don’t be afraid of the truth, it’s a beautiful thing.

Jhn 9:32 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=9&v=32&t=KJV#32)
Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind.

I believe we are born spiritually blind. So what is the solution? There is a lot of talk about eyes being opened again, eyes opened to what? Well; eyes opened to the Spiritual truth and reality of what is really going on in the world today. Why become “awakened” to the problem, which many now are seeing. There is a lot of good work going on by people who are opening people’s eyes to the problem, the thing is, they are not offering the solution, and a lot of the time, these people who are opening peoples eyes to the problem, are in fact directly opposed to the solution and they go to great lengths to attempt to disprove it with propaganda, disinformation and outright lies. To me these people are all illuminati shills, every last one of them.

I’m not going to mince about here folks, the solution is Jesus Christ. I pray that your eyes may be opened and I sincerely mean that. Here are extracts taken from the Gospel of John. This is an excellent book to start reading.

Now, I’m no great evangelist, I’m not even a regular church goer, quite simply, if you are reading this now, the Holy Spirit is most likely working in your life. No man can lead you to the truth of Christ. No man can open your spiritual eyes, and you certainly can’t do it yourself. This is solely the work of the Holy Spirit. Now I’m going to use a sappy cliché here, but try to take it on board, it’s because God loves you so much and he has an awesome plan for your life. You’re special, so very special to God you.

Are you born again? Or are you still dead? I am talking again about spiritually re-born. Please don’t let the words “born again” put you off just because some nut bar “born again Christian” put you off somewhere done the track. We are all a peculiar people.

Jhn 3:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=3&v=3&t=KJV#3)
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Without this (what ever it is) we aren’t getting to heaven folks? Know what it is yet?

Jhn 3:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=3&v=7&t=KJV#7)
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Don’t be amazed…

1Pe 1:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Pe&c=1&v=23&t=KJV#23)
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides for ever.

This means we need to be born again out of corruption. Are we corrupted?

Jhn 3:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=3&v=4&t=KJV#4)
Nicodemus said to him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

See, don’t worry your not the first to ask that question. How on earth do we do it? It’s a valid question. If this is important for seeing heaven, we had better figure it out huh? The following scriptures are exceedingly important directions.

What is the Way?

The word is “the Way”. Jesus is the Word. The bible is the way to Christ. The way (Christ), the truth (Christ) and the life (Christ). Confused? I hope not.

John 1:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1&v=23&t=NKJV#23)
He said: "I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: "Make straight the way of the LORD," ' as the prophet Isaiah said."

Isaiah 40:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=40&v=3&t=NKJV#3)
The voice of one crying in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.

John 14:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&v=5&t=NKJV#5)
Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?"

Act 16:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=16&v=17&t=NKJV#17)
This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation."

Act 18:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=18&v=25&t=NKJV#25)
This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught accurately the things of the Lord, though he knew only the baptism of John.

Act 18:26 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=18&v=26&t=NKJV#26)
So he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately.

Act 19:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=19&v=9&t=NKJV#9)
But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them and withdrew the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus.

Act 19:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=19&v=23&t=NKJV#23)
And about that time there arose a great commotion about the Way.

Mat 21:32 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=21&v=32&t=KJV#32)
For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

Rom 3:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=3&v=17&t=KJV#17)
And the way of peace have they not known:

Hbr 9:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Hbr&c=9&v=8&t=KJV#8)
The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

Hbr 10:20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Hbr&c=10&v=20&t=KJV#20)
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Jam 5:20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jam&c=5&v=20&t=KJV#20)
Let him know, that he which converts the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

2Pe 2:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Pe&c=2&v=2&t=KJV#2)
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

2Pe 2:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Pe&c=2&v=15&t=KJV#15)
Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2Pe 2:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Pe&c=2&v=21&t=KJV#21)
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

Jud 1:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jud&c=1&v=11&t=KJV#11)
Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

"I am the way

the way of God
the way of the Lord
the way of righteousness
the right way
his way shall save a soul from death
the way of salvation
a new and living way
the way of peace
the way into the holiest of all
the way of truth

Jesus is the way to all of the above

What is the truth?

the way of truth
John 8:32 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&v=32&t=KJV#32)
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

What a wonderful promise.

Psalms 25:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=25&v=5&t=NKJV#5)
Lead me in Your truth and teach me, For You are the God of my salvation; On You I wait all the day.

Psalms 25:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=25&v=10&t=NKJV#10)
All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth, To such as keep His covenant and His testimonies.

Psalms 33:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=33&v=4&t=NKJV#4)
For the word of the LORD is right, And all His work is done in truth.

Psalms 40:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=40&v=10&t=NKJV#10)
I have not hidden Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your faithfulness and Your salvation; I have not concealed Your loving kindness and Your truth From the great assembly.

Psalms 51:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=51&v=6&t=NKJV#6)
Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts, And in the hidden part You will make me to know wisdom.

Inside in your spirit.

Psalms 57:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=57&v=3&t=NKJV#3)
He shall send from heaven and save me; He reproaches the one who would swallow me up. Selah God shall send forth His mercy and His truth.

God is merciful. Full of mercy.

Psalms 57:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=57&v=10&t=NKJV#10)
For Your mercy reaches unto the heavens, And Your truth unto the clouds.

Psalms 69:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=69&v=13&t=NKJV#13)
But as for me, my prayer is to You, O LORD, in the acceptable time; O God, in the multitude of Your mercy, Hear me in the truth of Your salvation.

God can only hear you through the truth of Salvation.

Psalms 85:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=85&v=11&t=NKJV#11)
Truth shall spring out of the earth, And righteousness shall look down from heaven.

Psalms 89:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=89&v=14&t=NKJV#14)
Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne; Mercy and truth go before Your face.

Psalms 96:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=96&v=13&t=NKJV#13)
For He is coming, for He is coming to judge the earth. He shall judge the world with righteousness, And the peoples with His truth.

Psalms 100:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=100&v=5&t=NKJV#5)
For the LORD is good; His mercy is everlasting, And His truth endures to all generations.

Psalms 108:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=108&v=4&t=NKJV#4)
For Your mercy is great above the heavens, And Your truth reaches to the clouds.

Psalms 117:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=117&v=2&t=NKJV#2)
For His merciful kindness is great toward us, And the truth of the LORD endures forever. Praise the LORD!

Psalms 119:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=30&t=NKJV#30)
I have chosen the way of truth; Your judgments I have laid before me.

Psalms 119:43 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=43&t=NKJV#43)
And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth, For I have hoped in Your ordinances.

Psalms 119:160 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=160&t=NKJV#160)
The entirety of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever.

Psalms 145:18 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=145&v=18&t=NKJV#18)
The LORD is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth.

The lord can not hear you unless you call him through the truth

Psalms 146:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=146&v=6&t=NKJV#6)
Who made heaven and earth, The sea, and all that is in them; Who keeps truth forever,

Pro 3:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=3&t=NKJV#3)
Let not mercy and truth forsake you; Bind them around your neck, Write them on the tablet of your heart,

Pro 16:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=16&v=6&t=NKJV#6)
In mercy and truth atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the LORD one departs from evil.

There is no atonement without truth

Pro 22:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=22&v=21&t=NKJV#21)
That I may make you know the certainty of the words of truth, That you may answer words of truth To those who send unto you?

Pro 23:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=23&v=23&t=NKJV#23)
Buy the truth, and do not sell it, Also get wisdom and instruction and understanding.

John 8:32 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&v=32&t=KJV#32)
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

miracles

17-08-2009, 04:46 PM

What is the life?

Gen 2:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=2&v=7&t=KJV#7)
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Breath is what gives life to our soul, God’s breath.

Gen 2:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=2&v=9&t=KJV#9)
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Adam and Eve where cast out so that they could not eat the tree of life and live forever, because that would have meant to live forever sinful and cut off from God

Gen 3:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=3&v=22&t=KJV#22)
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Why did God not want us to live forever in this condition, but He said we would be like God, isn’t that a good thing? Because Evil had not yet been defeated. An example of why would be “what if someone like Adolph Hitler could live forever?”

Psa 91:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=91&v=16&t=KJV#16)
With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

Ask God to show you his salvation

Psa 103:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=103&v=4&t=KJV#4)
Who redeems thy life from destruction; who crowns thee with loving kindness and tender mercies;

Pro 3:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=2&t=KJV#2)
For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to you.

It appears that following Gods will leads to a long life on earth
Pro 3:18 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=18&t=KJV#18)

She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retains her.

What? What is this tree of life?

Pro 3:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=22&t=KJV#22)
So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.

The soul can have life, eternal life.

Pro 4:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=10&t=KJV#10)
Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many.

Pro 4:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=13&t=KJV#13)
Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life.

Pro 4:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=22&t=KJV#22)
For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

Pro 4:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=23&t=KJV#23)
Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.

Pro 6:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=23&t=KJV#23)
For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

The law shines the light on sin, so we can see it and deal with it. The law is a blessing.

Pro 8:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=8&v=35&t=KJV#35)
For whoso finds me finds life, and shall obtain favor of the LORD.

This refers to Christ, without Christ we find no favor from the Lord. Ask God to reveal Christ to you.

Pro 11:19 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=11&v=19&t=KJV#19)
As righteousness tends to life: so he that pursues evil pursues it to his own death.

There is no righteousness and no life without Christ – eternal life that is. There is none righteous, not even one. We need the righteousness of Christ to save us.

Pro 11:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=11&v=30&t=KJV#30)
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that wins souls is wise.

Winning souls to eternal life and away from eternal death. I believe the only reasons born again people are not immediately raptured is because there soul purpose is to win other souls.

Pro 12:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=12&v=28&t=KJV#28)
In the way of righteousness is life; and in the pathway thereof there is no death.

Christ was the only righteous life, in Him we find the path to eternal life

Pro 13:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=13&v=14&t=KJV#14)
The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

The law leads us to life – Christ – the law shines the light on sin

Pro 14:27 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=14&v=27&t=KJV#27)
The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

Fear of God leads us to life which is Christ

Pro 15:24 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=15&v=24&t=KJV#24)
The way of life is above to the wise that he may depart from hell beneath.

Pro 19:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=19&v=23&t=KJV#23)
The fear of the LORD tends to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.

Pro 21:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=21&v=21&t=KJV#21)
He that follows after righteousness and mercy finds life, righteousness, and honour.

Christ is rightesouness, and it is found only in him

Pro 22:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=22&v=4&t=KJV#4)
By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honor, and life.

Mat 7:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=7&v=14&t=KJV#14)
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there are who find it.

It would appear that not many people find the truth, don’t miss it, please.

Mat 10:39 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=10&v=39&t=KJV#39)
He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it.

Mat 16:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=16&v=25&t=KJV#25)
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Mat 18:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=18&v=8&t=KJV#8)
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

This is talking about entering into the next life, eternal life or everlasting fire. Christ is the only way into eternal life.

Mat 18:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=18&v=9&t=KJV#9)
And if your eye offends thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 19:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=19&v=16&t=KJV#16)
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 20:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=20&v=28&t=KJV#28)
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Its Christ life that saves our life, its Christ life that paid the ransom for our sins.

Mat 25:46 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=25&v=46&t=KJV#46)
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Righteousness is found in Christ, without receiving Christ as saviour the penalty is everlasting punishment.

Mar 8:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=8&v=35&t=KJV#35)
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

If you reject the truth, you will lose your life.

Mar 9:43 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=9&v=43&t=KJV#43)
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:45 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=9&v=45&t=KJV#45)
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Fire that never goes out.

Jhn 4:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=4&v=14&t=KJV#14)
But whosoever drinks of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jhn 4:36 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=4&v=36&t=KJV#36)
And he that reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit unto life eternal: that both he that sows and he that reaps may rejoice together.

It is my sole function in this life to sow the seeds of the truth unto salvation.

Jhn 5:24 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&v=24&t=KJV#24)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Here is the solution and the way to heaven, the good news pf the gospel, believe that God sent Christ as saviour.

Jhn 5:26 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&v=26&t=KJV#26)
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

God Gave Christ to save you and give you eternal life

Jhn 6:33 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=33&t=KJV#33)
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and gives life unto the world.

Jesus is came down from heaven to save you

Jhn 6:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=35&t=KJV#35)
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Jhn 6:40 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=40&t=KJV#40)
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You have to see Jesus as He really is. The saviour from God.

Jhn 6:47 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=47&t=KJV#47)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

If you believe in Jesus as the saviour, you will have everlasting life.

Jhn 6:48 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=48&t=KJV#48)
I am that bread of life.

Jhn 6:51 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=51&t=KJV#51)
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eats of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jesus Gave himself over to death by crucifixion to pay the price for your sins

Jhn 6:53 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=53&t=KJV#53)
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Jhn 6:54 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=54&t=KJV#54)
Whoso eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

These two scriptures are about receiving Christ into your heart and soul

Jhn 6:63 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=63&t=KJV#63)
It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

As you believe and digest what you are hearing you will be reborn in the spirit, your spirit will be quickened

Jhn 6:68 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=68&t=KJV#68)
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

Jhn 8:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&v=12&t=KJV#12)
Jesus said, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Jhn 10:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=10&t=KJV#10)
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Jhn 10:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=11&t=KJV#11)
I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=15&t=KJV#15)
As the Father knows me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=17&t=KJV#17)
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

Jhn 10:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=28&t=KJV#28)
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Jhn 11:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=11&v=25&t=KJV#25)
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Jhn 12:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=12&v=25&t=KJV#25)
He that loves his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

Jhn 12:50 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=12&v=50&t=KJV#50)
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Jhn 13:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=13&v=37&t=KJV#37)
Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.

Jhn 13:38 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=13&v=38&t=KJV#38)
Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.

Jhn 14:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&v=6&t=KJV#6)
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jhn 15:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=15&v=13&t=KJV#13)
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Jhn 17:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=17&v=2&t=KJV#2)
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Jhn 17:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=17&v=3&t=KJV#3)
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Jhn 20:31 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=20&v=31&t=KJV#31)
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Act 2:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=2&v=28&t=KJV#28)
Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shall make me full of joy with thy countenance.

Act 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=3&v=15&t=KJV#15)
And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

1Jo 1:1 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#1)
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

1Jo 1:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=2&t=KJV#2)
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen [it], and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1Jo 2:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=16&t=KJV#16)
For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1Jo 2:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=25&t=KJV#25)
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, [even] eternal life.

1Jo 3:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=14&t=KJV#14)
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death.

1Jo 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=15&t=KJV#15)
Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

1Jo 3:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=16&t=KJV#16)
Hereby perceive we the love of God because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

1Jo 5:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=11&t=KJV#11)
And this is the record that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

1Jo 5:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=12&t=KJV#12)
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

1Jo 5:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=13&t=KJV#13)
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Yes, you can know that you have eternal life, with assurance

1Jo 5:20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=20&t=KJV#20)
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Jud 1:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jud&c=1&v=21&t=KJV#21)
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

I will leave you to ruminate over these scriptures about life. In them may you find eternal life. I suggest you buy a “red letter bible” where every recorded word Jesus has spoken is highlighted in red, read just His words only. I will be very surprised if your eyes are not spiritually opened and you are born again

God Bless you.

stfd

17-08-2009, 04:48 PM

What is the life?

Gen 2:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=2&v=7&t=KJV#7)
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Breath is what gives life to our soul, God’s breath.
Gen 2:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=2&v=9&t=KJV#9)
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Adam and Eve where cast out so that they could not eat the tree of life and live forever, because that would have meant to live forever sinful and cut off from God

Gen 3:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=3&v=22&t=KJV#22)
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Why did God not want us to live forever in this condition, but He said we would be like God, isn’t that a good thing? Because Evil had not yet been defeated. An example of why would be “what if someone like Adolph Hitler could live forever?”

Psa 91:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=91&v=16&t=KJV#16)
With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

Ask God to show his salvation
Psa 103:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=103&v=4&t=KJV#4)
Who redeems thy life from destruction; who crowns thee with loving kindness and tender mercies;

Pro 3:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=2&t=KJV#2)
For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to you.

It appears that following Gods will leads to a long life on earth
Pro 3:18 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=18&t=KJV#18)
She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retains her.

What? What is this tree of life?
Pro 3:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=22&t=KJV#22)
So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.

The soul can have life, eternal life.
Pro 4:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=10&t=KJV#10)
Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many.
Pro 4:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=13&t=KJV#13)
Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life.
Pro 4:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=22&t=KJV#22)
For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.
Pro 4:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=23&t=KJV#23)
Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
Pro 6:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=23&t=KJV#23)
For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

The law shines the light on sin, so we can see it and deal with it. The law is a blessing.
Pro 8:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=8&v=35&t=KJV#35)
For whoso finds me finds life, and shall obtain favor of the LORD.

This refers to Christ, without Christ we find no favor from the Lord. Ask God to reveal Christ to you.

Pro 11:19 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=11&v=19&t=KJV#19)
As righteousness tends to life: so he that pursues evil pursues it to his own death.

There is no righteousness and no life without Christ – eternal life that is. There is none righteous, not even one. We need the righteousness of Christ to save us.
Pro 11:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=11&v=30&t=KJV#30)
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that wins souls is wise.

Winning souls to eternal life and away from eternal death. I believe the only reasons born again people are not immediately raptured is because there soul purpose is to win other souls.

Pro 12:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=12&v=28&t=KJV#28)

In the way of righteousness is life; and in the pathway thereof there is no death.

Christ was the only righteous life, in Him we find the path to eternal life
Pro 13:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=13&v=14&t=KJV#14)
The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

The law leads us to life – Christ – the law shines the light on sin
Pro 14:27 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=14&v=27&t=KJV#27)
The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

Fear of God leads us to life which is Christ
Pro 15:24 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=15&v=24&t=KJV#24)
The way of life is above to the wise that he may depart from hell beneath.
Pro 19:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=19&v=23&t=KJV#23)
The fear of the LORD tends to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.
Pro 21:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=21&v=21&t=KJV#21)
He that follows after righteousness and mercy finds life, righteousness, and honour. Christ is righteousness, and is found in Him.
Pro 22:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=22&v=4&t=KJV#4)
By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honor, and life.

Mat 7:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=7&v=14&t=KJV#14)

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there are who find it.

It would appear that not many people find the truth, don’t miss it, please.
Mat 10:39 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=10&v=39&t=KJV#39)
He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat 16:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=16&v=25&t=KJV#25)
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat 18:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=18&v=8&t=KJV#8)
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

This is talking about entering into the next life, eternal life or everlasting fire. Christ is the only way into eternal life.
Mat 18:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=18&v=9&t=KJV#9)
And if your eye offends thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 19:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=19&v=16&t=KJV#16)
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 20:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=20&v=28&t=KJV#28)
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Its Christ life that saves our life, its Christ life that paid the ransom for our sins.
Mat 25:46 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=25&v=46&t=KJV#46)
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Righteousness is found in Christ, without receiving Christ as saviour the penalty is everlasting punishment.

Mar 8:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=8&v=35&t=KJV#35)
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

If you reject the truth, you will lose your life.
Mar 9:43 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=9&v=43&t=KJV#43)
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mar 9:45 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mar&c=9&v=45&t=KJV#45)
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Fire that never goes out.
Jhn 4:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=4&v=14&t=KJV#14)
But whosoever drinks of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jhn 4:36 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=4&v=36&t=KJV#36)
And he that reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit unto life eternal: that both he that sows and he that reaps may rejoice together.

It is my sole function in this life to sow the seeds of the truth unto salvation.

Jhn 5:24 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&v=24&t=KJV#24)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Here is the solution and the way to heaven, the good news pf the gospel, believe that God sent Christ as saviour.

Jhn 5:26 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&v=26&t=KJV#26)
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

God Gave Christ to save you and give you eternal life
Jhn 6:33 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=33&t=KJV#33)
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and gives life unto the world.

Jesus is came down from heaven to save you
Jhn 6:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=35&t=KJV#35)
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Jhn 6:40 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=40&t=KJV#40)
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You have to see Jesus as He really is. The saviour from God.
Jhn 6:47 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=47&t=KJV#47)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

If you believe in Jesus as the saviour, you will have everlasting life.
Jhn 6:48 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=48&t=KJV#48)
I am that bread of life.
Jhn 6:51 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=51&t=KJV#51)
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eats of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jesus Gave himself over to death by crucifixion to pay the price for your sins
Jhn 6:53 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=53&t=KJV#53)
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Jhn 6:54 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=54&t=KJV#54)
Whoso eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

These two scriptures are about receiving Christ into your heart and soul
Jhn 6:63 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=63&t=KJV#63)
It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

As you believe and digest what you are hearing you will be reborn in the spirit, your spirit will be quickened
Jhn 6:68 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=6&v=68&t=KJV#68)
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

Jhn 8:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&v=12&t=KJV#12)
Jesus said, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Jhn 10:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=10&t=KJV#10)
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Jhn 10:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=11&t=KJV#11)
I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=15&t=KJV#15)

As the Father knows me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Jhn 10:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=17&t=KJV#17)
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Jhn 10:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=28&t=KJV#28)
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Jhn 11:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=11&v=25&t=KJV#25)
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Jhn 12:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=12&v=25&t=KJV#25)
He that loves his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Jhn 12:50 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=12&v=50&t=KJV#50)
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Jhn 13:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=13&v=37&t=KJV#37)
Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
Jhn 13:38 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=13&v=38&t=KJV#38)
Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.
Jhn 14:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&v=6&t=KJV#6)
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jhn 15:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=15&v=13&t=KJV#13)
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Jhn 17:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=17&v=2&t=KJV#2)
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Jhn 17:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=17&v=3&t=KJV#3)
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Jhn 20:31 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=20&v=31&t=KJV#31)
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Act 2:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=2&v=28&t=KJV#28)
Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shall make me full of joy with thy countenance.
Act 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Act&c=3&v=15&t=KJV#15)
And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
1Jo 1:1 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#1)
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jo 1:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=1&v=2&t=KJV#2)
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen [it], and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1Jo 2:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=16&t=KJV#16)
For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jo 2:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=25&t=KJV#25)
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, [even] eternal life.
1Jo 3:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=14&t=KJV#14)
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death.
1Jo 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=15&t=KJV#15)
Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jo 3:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&v=16&t=KJV#16)
Hereby perceive we the love of God because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
1Jo 5:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=11&t=KJV#11)
And this is the record that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=12&t=KJV#12)
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jo 5:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=13&t=KJV#13)
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Yes, you can know that you have eternal life, with assurance

1Jo 5:20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=5&v=20&t=KJV#20)
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Jud 1:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jud&c=1&v=21&t=KJV#21)
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

I will leave you to ruminate over these scriptures about life. In them may you find eternal life. I suggest you buy a “red letter bible” where every recorded word Jesus has spoken is highlighted in red, read just His words only. I will be very surprised if your eyes are not spiritually opened and you are born again

God Bless you.

you 2 dude.

mightyoak

17-08-2009, 09:08 PM

miracles Sincere question here. Can i ask which form/ branch/ sect off Christianity/ gospel you follow ?

miracles

18-08-2009, 12:45 AM

miracles Sincere question here. Can i ask which form/ branch/ sect off Christianity/ gospel you follow ?

Why do you ask? This post is scripture, sects and churches are irrelevant for the purpose of the OP. There is only one gospel. Having said that, I think it's a reasonable enough question, but I am not wanting to be dragged off topic without knowing your motives for asking first.

mightyoak

18-08-2009, 10:41 PM

Why do you ask? This post is scripture, sects and churches are irrelevant for the purpose of the OP. There is only one gospel. Having said that, I think it's a reasonable enough question, but I am not wanting to be dragged off topic without knowing your motives for asking first.

Do not wish to spoil your thread miracles However as gospel is the supposedly divine word off god as you rightly point out. But as with all devine words off all religious text There are very many different interpretations and differing belief mechanisms to what God is all about.
I just asked out off curiosity which yours where ? No malice intended in the question.

miracles

19-08-2009, 02:07 AM

Do not wish to spoil your thread miracles However as gospel is the supposedly divine word off god as you rightly point out. But as with all devine words off all religious text There are very many different interpretations and differing belief mechanisms to what God is all about.
I just asked out off curiosity which yours where ? No malice intended in the question.

No problem mate, I have answered you privately. The scriptures posted in this thread only leave themselves open to "misinterpretation" in my opinion. There is no interpretation required other than a basic reading ability of a seven year old. Although if there is one that is misunderstood, it is this one. It means one must lose their life in Christ, IE receive Christ as saviour, rather than trying to save yourself.

Mat 16:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=16&v=25&t=KJV#25)
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

tannah

19-08-2009, 02:20 AM

You humans are off your heads. if you think a real God exists that will give you what your judgemental hearts desire, you're wrong. We're in it together, get used to it.

The most pathetic message is the Islam/Christian one. We're tired of your dualing ferking claims about God dudes. We're ready to spread a most adequate message about a Creator nowadays. No Creator could ever be as your silly perception thinks it is. And if it really was as you reckon, then I'm outta here, looking for a better God.

It's BS to think a real Creator exists that condemns souls to hell. You're off your heads. You don't know what hipnotized shit you're going on about. Get a reality check people. These are your judgments, because you are sulky little ferkers who think little "Timmy" shouldn't have taken you're ice cream from you when you were a kiddie. Grow the fuck up.

Like, do you really know what you're saying when you think a real human spirit is going hell? Do you really know what that would mean. STFU idiots. Start expressing realaity, and stop the childish hurt stuff.

I'm not saying christians or muslims are idiots, just their so called beliefs about certain stuff. It's stooopid unrealistic idiocy, and you need to grow up.

miracles

19-08-2009, 05:39 AM

michael christopher

19-08-2009, 05:50 AM

The fact that you cant handle another persons contribution, IE a person that believes different from you, in a religious discussion forum no less, only serves to confrim what a hate filled, arrogant, self centered in the extreme, egocentric, bullying biggot you are.

So how about you, to use a favourite of yours, stfu for a while unless you have something of value to contribute instead of your sick, twisted, whiney, little girls blouse, hate speach. You're a lunitic on the loose.

See how far you push people?

If people really want to see some bullying arrogant hatred they should run a search on all of your posts and compare them to tannah's. It's only fair people see all sides of the story, in my honest opinion.

kappy0405

19-08-2009, 05:54 AM

miracles

19-08-2009, 07:08 AM

It's only fair people see all sides of the story, in my honest opinion.

I agree, which is why I made this thread for the record, only to have the same old same old from you lot. The fact that it survived more than 24 hours without you takeing a dump in it is a flabergasting miracle of epic proportion.

miracles

19-08-2009, 07:14 AM

kappy0405

19-08-2009, 08:19 PM

Jesus did not was we are God. Okay. The fact that you like someone full of vitriol, says a lot.

with all due respect, you implied that tannah should slash his wrists before. I think his aggressive tone is justified here. ;)

No need to start to introduce lies about the bible in a thread about the truth as set out in the bible.i'm not.. I'm just reading it literally, rather than following the interpretation that the ptb introduced to us: that this 'God' is a being separate from us worthy of worship and submission. You weren't around 2000+ years ago, so you can't be certain as to what the true teachings are. By flat-out accepting the traditional version, you're putting a whole lotta faith in the honesty of the system over quite a long period of time. You need to realize that many of us here have studied the Bible and have gone through the conditioning process of religion. We've just looked for an even bigger picture and seem to have found it. Many of us do live modest, honorable lives and do live according to some of the teachings of the Bible, but we don't need the book to do that, and we don't need to accept the conventional interpretation of it to do that either. If there's an all powerful deity up there waiting to condemn us all to hell based on a simple yes/no answer, then screw him. You're telling me that someone like me who lives completely modest, helps people whenever I can, tries my best to love everyone and everything will go to hell, or not experience eternal life because that asshole said so? Meanwhile, someone like George Bush could experience that eternal life simply because he accepts the conventional version of 'God'? Nonsense. If that's God, the fuck him. No, God is 'within us' as Jesus said. God is within us, as Icke says. God is infinite consciousness.

I give up with you guys, you can send this thread to hell if you like. I am past being bothered by anything you have to say (in fact I never was) and the fact that I am totally and utterly under some of your skins on the other hand, is telling as well.
I don't think you're under anyones skin.:rolleyes: I do find it funny that you've created several threads saying the exact same thing only to bash and belittle anyone who offers another perspective though.

tannah

19-08-2009, 09:05 PM

a little vitriolic, but I think I like you. :) lol

Jesus was God.. Fine, fair enough. In his own words, so are we.

"the kingdom is within you..."

no interpretations, right? Then, by all rights.. we are 'God', just as Icke says.

"...Split a piece of wood and I am there - lift a stone and you will find me."

That's it, life energy , all the elements, sub-atomic, everything has a creative imprint.

The reason I kept hold of what they call the Lord's pray is that it is a prayer for Self Government, as promised by Jesus when he said the law will be written on the Heart. That will always threaten those that want it written as a set of texts. But the Lord's Prayer says "your kingdom come", and obviously it means an inner awakening. Then it says "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven", and again with the inner kingdom being awake, it is bound to spill outwards. So Self Government is no more than Love awake, and it's an action that will spread outwardly. Love as a feeling is generally not that kind of Love. Without action that kind of love is generally selfish.
We can know this becuase that kind of love is still regulated by outside laws. But when heavenly Love awakens there are no outside laws to regulate it and so paves the way for Self Government.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:01 AM

Let me give everyone a hint, miracles favorite tactic is to drag you down to his level. Just like the pagan god Saturn/Satan that he worships, he wants to drag you down into the depths of hell with him if he's got to go there himself.

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:06 AM

with all due respect, you implied that tannah should slash his wrists before. I think his aggressive tone is justified here. ;)

i'm not.. I'm just reading it literally, rather than following the interpretation that the ptb introduced to us: that this 'God' is a being separate from us worthy of worship and submission. You weren't around 2000+ years ago, so you can't be certain as to what the true teachings are. By flat-out accepting the traditional version, you're putting a whole lotta faith in the honesty of the system over quite a long period of time. You need to realize that many of us here have studied the Bible and have gone through the conditioning process of religion. We've just looked for an even bigger picture and seem to have found it. Many of us do live modest, honorable lives and do live according to some of the teachings of the Bible, but we don't need the book to do that, and we don't need to accept the conventional interpretation of it to do that either. If there's an all powerful deity up there waiting to condemn us all to hell based on a simple yes/no answer, then screw him. You're telling me that someone like me who lives completely modest, helps people whenever I can, tries my best to love everyone and everything will go to hell, or not experience eternal life because that asshole said so? Meanwhile, someone like George Bush could experience that eternal life simply because he accepts the conventional version of 'God'? Nonsense. If that's God, the fuck him. No, God is 'within us' as Jesus said. God is within us, as Icke says. God is infinite consciousness.

I don't think you're under anyones skin.:rolleyes: I do find it funny that you've created several threads saying the exact same thing only to bash and belittle anyone who offers another perspective though.

I trust the Lord and his word, because I know it is his word. You can believe a man if you want IE Icke, he is not the authority on these thinks. I dont know how you can read the good news of salvation and keep harping on about being condemned Krappy, but you do your thing, and Ill do mine. DOnt tell me what you believe I dont need to know, this thread is simply a statement of biblical scripture.

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:07 AM

That's it, life energy , all the elements, sub-atomic, everything has a creative imprint.

The reason I kept hold of what they call the Lord's pray is that it is a prayer for Self Government, as promised by Jesus when he said the law will be written on the Heart. That will always threaten those that want it written as a set of texts. But the Lord's Prayer says "your kingdom come", and obviously it means an inner awakening. Then it says "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven", and again with the inner kingdom being awake, it is bound to spill outwards. So Self Government is no more than Love awake, and it's an action that will spread outwardly. Love as a feeling is generally not that kind of Love. Without action that kind of love is generally selfish.
We can know this becuase that kind of love is still regulated by outside laws. But when heavenly Love awakens there are no outside laws to regulate it and so paves the way for Self Government.

God's will and laws is in the bible, not what you decide it is in make believe land.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:09 AM

seanx

20-08-2009, 12:16 AM

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:16 AM

God's will and laws is in the bible, not what you decide it is in make believe land.

The bible seems to have blinded your reasoning powers Miracles. Or were they blinded already by other events in your life?

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:16 AM

Hey miracles, don't you think it would be fairly easy for a demon to code the entire Bible numerologically since time-space doesn't exist in spirit-world?

I mean, haven't demons pulled off crazier shit before according to you?

Satan can only cast doubt on the word of God, He is powerless to change it, but he can lead people to misinterpret it. In the garden he said to Eve, "did God really say this?" He cant say, "God didnt say this"

Satan uses people to write books all the time, but they do not have the wonderful design throughout them like the bible does. However thats a decision you are going to have to make for yourself. Did God write the "Conversations with God" books that made the author famous and rich, or did satan?

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:17 AM

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:19 AM

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:19 AM

The bible seems to have blinded your reasoning powers Miracles. Or were they blinded already by other events in your life?

They where blinded with alchohol and drugs and promiscuity and a wrecked life before yes. I was blind but now I see. Halleluliah, what a saviour.

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:20 AM

Do you want everyone to think like you? I dare say you dont. Its a free country, Im allowed to post my views.

I thoroughly encourage it. I'm learning loads from you.

With gratitude

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:24 AM

Satan can only cast doubt on the word of God, He is powerless to change it, but he can lead people to misinterpret it. In the garden he said to Eve, "did God really say this?" He cant say, "God didnt say this"

Satan uses people to write books all the time, but they do not have the wonderful design throughout them like the bible does. However thats a decision you are going to have to make for yourself. Did God write the "Conversations with God" books that made the author famous and rich, or did satan?

How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?

You really have no evidence that only God can numerically encode such an enormous text. I mean, isn't Satan supposed to be extremely impressive?

What's more impressive than pulling off a BS religion like Christianity for 1700 years? Let's be honest here, after all, Christianity nor the Bible even existed until around 325 AD, where it was put together by a bunch of Jews and pagans, including the pagan emperor Constantine who didn't convert to Christianity until he lay dying on his deathbed. Also it seems more likely to me that Satan would be commanding the murder of women and children than God. You know how Constantine saw a sign in the sky that made him create the religion and all that crap? You are aware that the sign communicated to him "go forth and conquer" correct? How is Christ's God of Love going to be telling people to go conquer anything?

Is conquering in alignment with love? Is killing your enemies the same as loving them? You don't think that's fucked and perverted like the rest of humanity, and it doesn't bother you that people think you are perverted as well for openly proclaiming that these things are good? You're not even like the other Christians who will just make apologies and pretend I'm misinterpreting those passages, you flat out say it's good that God killed the pagan women and children, including babies too young to even be pagan.

Doesn't it bother you that Jesus says "Turn the other cheek" and then says "The Law (Judaism) will stand until the end of time" where part of Judaic law is "an eye for an eye" - doesn't that just bother you a little bit? :)

No?

Okay. :)

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:25 AM

I thoroughly encourage it. I'm learning loads from you.

With gratitude

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer huh? :)

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:27 AM

How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?

You really have no evidence that only God can numerically encode such an enormous text. I mean, isn't Satan supposed to be extremely impressive?

What's more impressive than pulling off a BS religion like Christianity for 1700 years? Let's be honest here, after all, Christianity nor the Bible even existed until around 325 AD, where it was put together by a bunch of Jews and pagans, including the pagan emperor Constantine who didn't convert to Christianity until he lay dying on his deathbed. Also it seems more likely to me that Satan would be commanding the murder of women and children than God.

.
Doesn't it bother you that Jesus says "Turn the other cheek" and then says "The Law (Judaism) will stand until the end of time" where part of Judaic law is "an eye for an eye" - doesn't that just bother you a little bit? :)

No?

Okay. :)

I know because when I read it and apply it to my life, it gets better and not worse. It bothers me that I dont turn the other cheek as often as I should. :) The law still stands in many countries IE the death penalty,
Satan has pulled off counterfeit Christianity all over the shop mate, and you now that.

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:29 AM

They where blinded with alchohol and drugs and promiscuity and a wrecked life before yes. I was blind but now I see. Halleluliah, what a saviour.

Hmmmm, I've seen that pattern before. You're just projecting your own judgment on yourself, about deserving hell. Only you have found a great destraction, but here's the rub; the more you run from your conscience, the greater your destraction has to become in order to fight if off. So you become more and more of a narrow-minded supporter of your particular destraction. Alcohlics and junkies do this all the time.

Substituting one drug and addiction for another is not liberation.
It's not real change, it's rearranging.

Take a month off from believing what you do, and give the guilt a chance to really manifest again. This time forgive yourself, and mankind, and get on with what you were created to be.

Resentment needs feeding. It will come up if you are not squashing it with destractions. The road to liberation is always a good ol observing of one's ego, how it clings to all manner of stuff and blocks the true light from emmerging.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:29 AM

I know because when I read it and apply it to my life, it gets better and not worse. It bothers me that I dont turn the other cheek as often as I should. :) The law still stands in many countries IE the death penalty,

No, the Law is not the death penalty, the Law are the laws laid out in the Old Testament.

Why do I know my Bible much better than you seem to?

So your life got better once you decided to worship a God that commanded the murder of babies? Cute. Hey miracles, why don't you actually do what the Bible says and go out and kill pagans yourself? Maybe you do though, I should stop being so presumptuous. Such a bent to violence is clearly part of your inherent nature.

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:30 AM

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer huh? :)

You're not my enemy. I try not to think that way. If I perceive an enemy any time I have learnt that it is probably an aspect of myself I still need to work on.

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:31 AM

Hmmmm, I've seen that pattern before. You're just projecting your own judgment on yourself, about deserving hell. Only you have found a great destraction, but here's the rub; the more you run from your conscience, the greater your destraction has to become in order to fight if off. So you become more and more of a narrow-minded supporter of your particular destraction. Alcohlics and junkies do this all the time.

Substituting one drug and addiction for another is not liberation.
It's not real change, it's rearranging.

Take a month off from believing what you do, and give the guilt a chance to really manifest again. This time forgive yourself, and mankind, and get on with what you were created to be.

Resentment needs feeding. It will come up if you are not squashing it with destractions. The road to liberation is always a good ol observing of one's ego, how it clings to all manner of stuff and blocks the true light from emmerging.

Ive taken years off and walked away from the faith many times. Sadly. God always brings me back. Many junkies join cults I agree. Resentment is the silent killer, its a poisen that kills you and not the ones you resent. The lords paryer deals with resentment, "forgive those who sin againts you"

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:34 AM

You're not my enemy. I try not to think that way. If I perceive an enemy any time I have learnt that it is probably an aspect of myself I still need to work on.

Thats very good. :)

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:35 AM

No, the Law is not the death penalty, the Law are the laws laid out in the Old Testament.

Why do I know my Bible much better than you seem to?

So your life got better once you decided to worship a God that commanded the murder of babies? Cute. Hey miracles, why don't you actually do what the Bible says and go out and kill pagans yourself? Maybe you do though, I should stop being so presumptuous. Such a bent to violence is clearly part of your inherent nature.

I have killed the sin nature and try to do so on a daily basis.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/copyChkboxOff.gif1Pe 5:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Pe&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#comm/9) Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. [/URL] (http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/tsk/tsk.cfm?b=1Pe&c=5&v=10&t=KJV)
(http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Pe&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#comm/10)
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Its not an easy path.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:38 AM

I have killed the sin nature and try to do so on a daily basis.

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Its not an easy path.

Miracles, doesn't the Bible say that you should not suffer a witch to live?

So why do you?

Doesn't that make you a sinner and mean you are going to hell for eternity? I mean you have already stated it was righteous of God to command the murder of all those babies and women... so if it's good enough for God, isn't it good enough for you?

Why do you get to ignore some of the commandments? Are you the special chosen one? :)

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:40 AM

Miracles, doesn't the Bible say that you should not suffer a witch to live?

So why do you?

Doesn't that make you a sinner and mean you are going to hell for eternity? I mean you have already stated it was righteous of God to command the murder of all those babies and women... so if it's good enough for God, isn't it good enough for you?

Why do you get to ignore some of the commandments? Are you the special chosen one? :)

I am not God. I am saved though grace, I can not boast, the lord knows the number of hairs on my head, he knitted me together in my mothers womb, I am very special to him, as are you.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:41 AM

I am not God. I am saved though grace, I can not boast, the lord knows the number of hairs on my head, he knitted me together in my mothes womb, I am very special to him, as are you.

Answer my question, miracles, why don't you kill witches?

stfd

20-08-2009, 12:43 AM

Answer my question, miracles, why don't you kill witches?

-to NOT kill - is quite an obvious statement in the 10 commandments.

what kinda stupid question is that?

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:44 AM

-to NOT kill - is quite an obvious statement in the 10 commandments.

what kinda stupid question is that?

But what about this passage where God commands the murder of women and children and everything that breathes?

Deuteronomy 28:16: "But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth."

Isn't that a little contradictory? :)

Also, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" is also pretty obviously contradictory to "Thou shalt not kill" and anyone who can't see that is probably clinically retarded.

tannah

20-08-2009, 12:45 AM

Ive taken years off and walked away from the faith many times. Sadly. God always brings me back. Many junkies join cults I agree. Resentment is the silent killer, its a poisen that kills you and not the ones you resent. The lords paryer deals with resentment, "forgive those who sin againts you"

What did you do when you walked away? Relapse back into drink drugs and nookie? If so, it's understandable why you'd go back and forth. In truth you never left your addiction. I'm not having a go at you here btw. This isn't a personal thing about you. We all have the same traits and part of our waking process is to learn to observe ourselves deceiving ourselves. That's why meditation is not always a bad thing. But even there it can be used as a drug for the ego to destract itself. So observe even your motivation for meditating. One isn't meant to feel good about themselves straight away. If meditation is really working you'll feel terrible for a while. Don't run back to the safety of destraction. Face yourself and the judgment of schmuck you once uttered. Notice that when you judge yourself you accordingly judge others the same way.

This is just common sense really. Except that society is geared toward that very deception and destraction that keeps one away from the light. It's big bucks to keep you enslaved to your attachments.

Deception is a religion.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:47 AM

What did you do when you walked away? Relapse back into drink drugs and nookie? If so, it's understandable why you'd go back and forth. In truth you never left your addiction. I'm not having a go at you here btw. This isn't a personal thing about you. We all have the same traits and part of our waking process is to learn to observe ourselves deceiving ourselves. That's why meditation is not always a bad thing. But even there it can be used as a drug for the ego to destract itself. So observe even your motivation for meditating. One isn't meant to feel good about themselves straight away. If meditation is really working you'll feel terrible for a while. Don't run back to the safety of destraction. Face yourself and the judgment of schmuck you once uttered. Notice that when you judge yourself you accordingly judge others the same way.

This is just common sense really. Except that society is geared toward that very deception and destraction that keeps one away from the light. It's big bucks to keep you enslaved to your attachments.

Deception is a religion.

What really kills me is that the real spirit of the Christ is trying to communicate the truth these people and yet they continue to worship their evil distortion of it. I don't think it could be anymore obvious what the difference between love and hate is, but some people are apparently quite confused on the issue, since we have genocide defenders on here now.

stfd

20-08-2009, 12:48 AM

But what about this passage where God commands the murder of women and children and everything that breathes?

Isn't that a little contradictory? :)

Also, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" is also pretty obviously contradictory to "Thou shalt not kill" and anyone who can't see that is probably clinically retarded.

lol you think youre smart and have insight when you paste lines that back you up?
pffft

those lines are in certain context , and are to be used and understood in THOSE contexts and NOT by themselves.

But whatever , is just idiotic to start this woth you , you're WAY too agressive.

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:48 AM

Answer my question, miracles, why don't you kill witches?

What do you think? :)

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:49 AM

lol you think youre smart and have insight when you paste lines that back you up?
pffft

those lines are in certain context , and are to be used and understood in THOSE contexts and NOT by themselves.

But whatever , is just idiotic to start this woth you , you're WAY too agressive.

Listen dude, I have read through Deuteronomy 5 times, don't tell me I'm taking the passages out of context when you clearly don't even know what the context is. Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me for someone who claims to be a Christian. If you want to debate, go find the damn passages - should be easy since I posted them - and tell us all what the proper context is, please. Because so far as I can tell, my context is pretty f-king accurate.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:49 AM

What do you think? :)

Because you are a hypocrite who selectively decides what parts of the Bible to follow?

stfd

20-08-2009, 12:51 AM

Listen dude, I have read through Deuteronomy 5 times, don't tell me I'm taking the passages out of context when you clearly don't even know what the context is. Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me for someone who claims to be a Christian.

omg youre hillarious ... actually you're not - dude

okay bye

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:51 AM

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:52 AM

omg youre hillarious ... actually you're not - dude

okay bye

Nice, I didn't expect you to stand up to any sort of actual argument since you don't know what you're talking about. If you want to come back and let us know how I got the context wrong, feel free to do so at any time, I mean it must be pretty easy since you clearly know I got it wrong, right?

If you know the context is wrong, why can't you just off the top of your head explain to us what the proper context is? If you can't, I'll take it as a submission on your part.

miracles

20-08-2009, 12:53 AM

Nice, I didn't expect you to stand up to any sort of actual argument since you don't know what you're talking about. If you want to come back and let us know how I got the context wrong, feel free to do so at any time, I mean it must be pretty easy since you clearly know I got it wrong, right?

If you know the context is wrong, why can't you just off the top of your head explain to us what the proper context is? If you can't, I'll take it as a submission on your part.

I already did on another thread MC. The answer is the same.EVil people have to go down, and their children suffered the conseqences.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:54 AM

I already did on another thread MC. The answer is the same.EVil people have to go down, and their children suffered the conseqences.

Right, so why don't you kill them? God clearly tells you to kill witches.

That's a question you've just been avoiding. Like you avoid all of my questions.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 12:58 AM

tannah

20-08-2009, 01:02 AM

What really kills me is that the real spirit of the Christ is trying to communicate the truth these people and yet they continue to worship their evil distortion of it. I don't think it could be anymore obvious what the difference between love and hate is, but some people are apparently quite confused on the issue, since we have genocide defenders on here now.

I know what you mean. Once one comes to terms with the humanness of the bible, the cultural stuff and how God gets used by man, and accepts it has its nasty stuff. The rest ain't too bad really. The parable of the field and the pearl for example. A man walks into a field looking for a pearl. He finds the pearl and sells the field. I eventually found the pearl and threw the bible in the bin for a good while.:) The pearl is love. One goes out there and does it, help anyone they can whenever it is asked for, stand their ground against being corrupted, and they are winners!

God smiles down on them of love. But love without action or just shown to one's group is like a fart that only hears its own echo.:D

tannah

20-08-2009, 01:05 AM

I meditate on the word of God.

Sorry to insist. Actually I'm not. You probably meditate on the bible, not the actual word of God. Guess where that would be? Meditating on text appeals to a textual conversion. Or else all the holy books are correct about God and there are about one hundred different heavens, all for each particular sect.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 01:07 AM

I know what you mean. Once one comes to terms with the humanness of the bible, the cultural stuff and how God gets used by man, and accepts it has its nasty stuff. The rest ain't too bad really. The parable of the field and the pearl for example. A man walks into a field looking for a pearl. He finds the pearl and sells the field. I eventually found the pearl and threw the bible in the bin for a good while.:) The pearl is love. One goes out there and does it, help anyone they can whenever it is asked for, stand their ground against being corrupted, and they are winners!

God smiles down on them of love. But love without action or just shown to one's group is like a fart that only hears its own echo.:D

The Bible has a lot of great scripture in it, it's too bad so much of it was shit on by religious zealots. I want to learn Greek so I can read the original scriptures of the New Testament, although I am also willing to admit that the original scriptures may not even exist anymore.

The best way I can tell the difference between what is corrupt and what is not is by simply saying "Is this something a god of unconditional love would ever say?"

I find much of the Bible seems to be purposely malicious and viral.

tannah

20-08-2009, 01:12 AM

The best way I can tell the difference between what is corrupt and what is not is by simply saying "Is this something a god of unconditional love would ever say?"

Yep same here. For a God to create the conditions to say something is an unconditional thing in itself. Luckily humans can perceive, even dimly, the concept of unconditional love.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 01:13 AM

Yep same here. For a God to create the conditions to say something is an unconditional thing in itself. Luckily humans can perceive, even dimly, the concept of unconditional love.

Well, some of us can anyway. You would think the words "unconditional" and "love" would have a fairly obvious definition when put together, but most people think unconditional actually means conditional. It's pretty funny, or at least it would be if it weren't so tragically stupid.

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:28 AM

You know miracles, your inability to actually even read the questions I'm asking you, and your tendency to respond by talking about something that isn't even an answer to the question, is indicative of brainwashing. You can't even comprehend what I'm asking you, I'm afraid.

Bro the fact that you can even ask me if I am going to kill witches shows me what an absolute bannana brain you are. Are you a member of the hair bear bunch or what?

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:29 AM

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:31 AM

Well, some of us can anyway. You would think the words "unconditional" and "love" would have a fairly obvious definition when put together, but most people think unconditional actually means conditional. It's pretty funny, or at least it would be if it weren't so tragically stupid.

if you practised what you preached, you would demonstrate your love for me, however you only show your hatred, and you have a great deal of trouble controlling it, if there was no moderators in here, Id love to see what youd come out with then. How ever FEAR of the consequences leads you to curb your ascerbic tounge. Funny huh? Okay bananna brain?

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:33 AM

Sorry to insist. Actually I'm not. You probably meditate on the bible, not the actual word of God. Guess where that would be? Meditating on text appeals to a textual conversion. Or else all the holy books are correct about God and there are about one hundred different heavens, all for each particular sect.

Well you already know my views on that.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 01:38 AM

Bro the fact that you can even ask me if I am going to kill witches shows me what an absolute bannana brain you are. Are you a member of the hair bear bunch or what?

Okay, miracles.

I think I've proven my point by just letting you respond. The Bible says to kill witches, yet you won't do it. Hypocrite!

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 01:39 AM

if you practised what you preached, you would demonstrate your love for me, however you only show your hatred, and you have a great deal of trouble controlling it, if there was no moderators in here, Id love to see what youd come out with then. How ever FEAR of the consequences leads you to curb your ascerbic tounge. Funny huh? Okay bananna brain?

Hey dude, if you practiced what you preach you would kill witches. Also, I stopped bashing you because I can see what kind of a demon you really are - a veritable blackhole of negativity and destruction.

Instead now I'll just continue to ask you questions that you won't answer, and in the process you will make yourself look rather ignorant without any help from me.

Wait, isn't that what I've always done anyway? :)

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:44 AM

Hey dude, if you practiced what you preach you would kill witches. Also, I stopped bashing you because I can see what kind of a demon you really are - a veritable blackhole of negativity and destruction.

Instead now I'll just continue to ask you questions that you won't answer, and in the process you will make yourself look rather ignorant without any help from me.

Wait, isn't that what I've always done anyway? :)

Oooowwww, that made me laugh out loud. Your good sauce. :D

miracles

20-08-2009, 01:46 AM

Okay, miracles.

I think I've proven my point by just letting you respond. The Bible says to kill witches, yet you won't do it. Hypocrite!

Okay then lets meet up and I will kill you. Lets do this thing. :) (moderators, Im kidding already) But MC has a death wish.

michael christopher

20-08-2009, 01:47 AM

Okay then lets meet up and I will kill you. Lets do this thing. :) (moderators, Im kidding already) But MC has a death wish.

Ah, you have to make shit up instead of responding to my posts again. Keep at it, Satan worshiper. ;)

tannah

20-08-2009, 02:09 AM

What is "unconditional" love. Please explain?

It's pre-duality and pre dual-mindedness. It's probably one of the main reasons Jesus would have said that loving one's own is not enough, because even the devils (illusion, duality) do that. Not only is it all embracing, but conditions do not exist where God stops being love, and decides to kill babies perhaps.

When asked how many times one should forgive their brother, Jesus replied by suggesting we do it lots and lots.:D Good training you see for getting to understand unconditional love. It appeals to the higher self. A great way to conquer attachments, which can only occur within the dual thinking mind.

IMO of course mate.:) Which I know you just love.:D

miracles

20-08-2009, 06:49 AM

It's pre-duality and pre dual-mindedness. It's probably one of the main reasons Jesus would have said that loving one's own is not enough, because even the devils (illusion, duality) do that. Not only is it all embracing, but conditions do not exist where God stops being love, and decides to kill babies perhaps.

When asked how many times one should forgive their brother, Jesus replied by suggesting we do it lots and lots.:D Good training you see for getting to understand unconditional love. It appeals to the higher self. A great way to conquer attachments, which can only occur within the dual thinking mind.

IMO of course mate.:) Which I know you just love.:D

When asked how many times one should forgive their brother, Jesus replied he said 70 x 7 (theres thos pesky 7s again)

Right! So whats dualism and pre duality?

quetzalcoatl

20-08-2009, 08:43 AM

Ah, you have to make shit up instead of responding to my posts again. Keep at it, Satan worshiper. ;)

Pffff! - ^ das bout where I'd start ignoring someone.. ;)

miracles

20-08-2009, 08:51 AM

Pffff! - ^ das bout where I'd start ignoring someone.. ;)

He knows not what he is doing....:D

quetzalcoatl

20-08-2009, 08:57 AM

He knows not what he is doing....:D

You know it man! ;)

Think he got me on his ignore-list, from 'last time'.. LOL! :D

miracles

20-08-2009, 08:58 AM

You know it man! ;)

Think he got me on his ignore-list, from 'last time'.. LOL! :D

Lucky you. :D

tannah

20-08-2009, 05:34 PM

When asked how many times one should forgive their brother, Jesus replied he said 70 x 7 (theres thos pesky 7s again)

Right! So whats dualism and pre duality?

Funny. The secret to understanding non duality is in them 7s.:-)

Things exist and manifest due to dual forces. But it is really only one force expressing itself in those two ways. Think about sine waves and frequencies, about positive and negative, with the neutral. The neutral centre is where those forces become one again, before crossing over and positive becomes negative and vice versa for another cycle. But the duality is maya. The real incorruptible is in the neutral that controls the dual flows. Things of the duality decay. Dual thinking, as James explains in the bible, is subject to decay. That's because its foundation would be built on illusion (sand).
Conditional decays. Unconditional doesn't.

That's why we do well to meditate on the unconditional aspect of our selves. A law exists there, and a person walking in that inner law won't be tempted by illusion.

The bible was put together and specifies conditions. Think about it and how subtle it is that it both attempts to deliver us and also keep us away from the place of life at the same time.

miracles

21-08-2009, 08:08 AM

Funny. The secret to understanding non duality is in them 7s.:-)

Things exist and manifest due to dual forces. But it is really only one force expressing itself in those two ways. Think about sine waves and frequencies, about positive and negative, with the neutral. The neutral centre is where those forces become one again, before crossing over and positive becomes negative and vice versa for another cycle. But the duality is maya. The real incorruptible is in the neutral that controls the dual flows. Things of the duality decay. Dual thinking, as James explains in the bible, is subject to decay. That's because its foundation would be built on illusion (sand).
Conditional decays. Unconditional doesn't.

That's why we do well to meditate on the unconditional aspect of our selves. A law exists there, and a person walking in that inner law won't be tempted by illusion.

The bible was put together and specifies conditions. Think about it and how subtle it is that it both attempts to deliver us and also keep us away from the place of life at the same time.

There is no shadow of turning with God. Ill leave you to figure that one out with your mates.

miracles

21-09-2009, 12:31 PM

nicolaj

21-09-2009, 02:19 PM

Again to mr Miracles - why do you feel to spread this mind control
program on here?

It's like me going on to a Christian forum and wanting to covert all
the people there to Icke's view of reality.

Such a thing would be pointless and a waste of time.

So why do you feel the need to want EVERYBODY to think like you
and believe your mind-control program ?

what is this forum about then
All aliens are gods,
I've been abducted by an alien....and
I'm a god myself..though i'm stuck in this plane and can't really do jack about it.
I'm a reptilian and I lived 7000 years ago..
I have sex with my spirit guide...:D

I swear to tell the whole david icke truth and nothing but the whole david icke truth. so help me David Icke you are my lord and master..and I will keep making your bank balance bigger..

The list goes on and on..all with different agenda.

btw wonder what should be wrote about in this religion forums then?

nicolaj

21-09-2009, 04:05 PM

The usual suspects can stay away from this thread this time, we know what you believe.

What do others think of the bibles view on the way the truth and the life, which is what Christ said He was?

Cheers

I firstly I would say it wouldn't really matter how long some people studied the bible unless they are guilded by the Holy Spirit they will never understand Gods word.....they are spiritual dead. We have been given eyes to see the truth. Praise God.
Peoples attitude here is the same that mine used to be. So I can see where they are coming from. I've attended church on occiaions before I became a born again Christian..It went in one ear and out the other I hadn't a clue what was going on and couldn't really see the point in any of it...

I do see a lot of bitterness and unhappiness here and thats a shame, I also feel demonic forces at work here on this forum.

tannah

21-09-2009, 04:49 PM

I firstly I would say it wouldn't really matter how long some people studied the bible unless they are guilded by the Holy Spirit they will never understand Gods word.....they are spiritual dead. We have been given eyes to see the truth. Praise God.

Hallelujah sister beginner. I'm dazzled.:)

I do see a lot of bitterness and unhappiness here and thats a shame, I also feel demonic forces at work here on this forum.

But you're here now, and with other spiritual warriors like Miracles you can defeat these nasty forces asking nasty questions about your chosen God.

Your spiritually dead brother.

seanx

21-09-2009, 07:42 PM

nicolaj wrote:
I swear to tell the whole david icke truth and nothing but the whole david icke truth. so help me David Icke you are my lord and master..and I will keep making your bank balance bigger..

Soory, darling, blindly following gurus and doing exactly what they say
in your instruction manual i. e the bible is your gig.

That your programming. Try not to confuse it with what you read here .

I firstly I would say it wouldn't really matter how long some people studied the bible unless they are guilded by the Holy Spirit they will never understand Gods word.....they are spiritual dead. We have been given eyes to see the truth. Praise God.
Peoples attitude here is the same that mine used to be. So I can see where they are coming from. I've attended church on occiaions before I became a born again Christian..It went in one ear and out the other I hadn't a clue what was going on and couldn't really see the point in any of it...

I do see a lot of bitterness and unhappiness here and thats a shame, I also feel demonic forces at work here on this forum. g.

As i said, this is just pure programming.

And at long last you used the trigger word - you are a
born-again christain!

I mean, I could tell exactly what you would write from just reading
the first couple of your posts.

So could most people here. You are just sprouting a religious
mind-control program that is particualrly popular in America.

The so-called born again movement. jUST another version of the
Elite's VERSION of christainty.

More hate and fear and terror of the FINAL JUDGEMENT IF you all
don't do what you are told!

seanx

21-09-2009, 07:48 PM

Miracles wrote:
The usual suspects can stay away from this thread this time, we know what you believe.

What do others think of the bibles view on the way the truth and the life, which is what Christ said He was?

Cheers

Sorry, Bud you don't own this forum.

tHERE are no no-go areas here.

it seems you want a little space to sprout all your propaganda about
this sick violent God of yours - and you want no opposition to this
nonsense.

Tell me what do you do to your kids when they make terrible mistakes.

Crucifty them on your garden porch as a warning to all your other
kids!!

Ever get the idea that your 'religion' is quite sick!!

miracles

21-09-2009, 11:43 PM

I firstly I would say it wouldn't really matter how long some people studied the bible unless they are guilded by the Holy Spirit they will never understand Gods word.....they are spiritual dead. We have been given eyes to see the truth. Praise God.
Peoples attitude here is the same that mine used to be. So I can see where they are coming from. I've attended church on occiaions before I became a born again Christian..It went in one ear and out the other I hadn't a clue what was going on and couldn't really see the point in any of it...

I do see a lot of bitterness and unhappiness here and thats a shame, I also feel demonic forces at work here on this forum.
Thats true. God bless you sister.

miracles

21-09-2009, 11:45 PM

Miracles wrote:

Sorry, Bud you don't own this forum.

tHERE are no no-go areas here.

it seems you want a little space to sprout all your propaganda about
this sick violent God of yours - and you want no opposition to this
nonsense.

Tell me what do you do to your kids when they make terrible mistakes.

Crucifty them on your garden porch as a warning to all your other
kids!!

Ever get the idea that your 'religion' is quite sick!!

I get the idea that what you write is sick

tannah

22-09-2009, 02:25 AM

I get the idea that what you write is sick

I get the idea that you have been allowed to infiltrate this forum, without having to exercise the decency of using some reason behind your lame arguments. Not only do you have nothing valid to say about questions asked of you, but yours is the most disgusting faith to walk this earth. And I used to think Islam beat you to it, but I desist now.

You have presented nothing of any value when someone asks you to defend the god who kills innocent children You choose to be unpenetrable in your hipnotised, dangerous belief system.

It's about time fundamentalist bullshitters were asked to explain themselves without the usual speil about their bible justifying them.

Whatever psychological problems these fundamentalists may suffer from, it isn't right to leave it unchallenged for younger people to be influenced by. You bible thumpers need a psychiatrist, badly. You have the worst image of mankind imaginable. As if your attitude is any better than anyone else, that you should think yourselves worthy of being chosen ones. There's no chosen about you.

The latest hipnotised child nicolaj is just typical of total mental garbage to hit the scene. You are simply judgemental, and arrogant, and smug, and think God would waste its time bringing about your sordid dreams.

All the while, you don't use your energies to really help this planet in any meaningful way. What are any of you christians here really doing to help God's planet? Nothing. You're so busy looking down on people that don't buy your BS. You've given up on this planet as satans and then you wonder why its so polluted. The christians like you are the first to fail your responsabilities. I think you should get less smug and actually listen to what others have to say for a change.

Come on, wake up. Jesus wouldn't support you idiots for all the blood in the universe. You're simply blind people. It takes very little observation to see the fact. Nothing special about you at all at the moment.

manxboz

22-09-2009, 02:45 AM

tannah

22-09-2009, 03:13 AM

I think it's very unfair to attack these people, how do you know they look down apon others? How do you know that they aren't helping the World? You don't, i help all i can, my fellow human, the Planet, i believe The Lord Jehovah sent me to this Earth to gain a mortal body and so i may one day return to live with him in his kingdom, but i can't sit by a let my fellow brothers and sisters go about and lose themselves, so i try and help, but by no means force myself apon them, The Lord gave us free agency and i thank him for that but if i can bring about only one person to The Lord in my lifetime it would have been worth it.

I don't consider it help to sit on a pedestal and tell others they will go to hell if they don't believe IN Jesus. I'm not attacking anyone.

So you think your job is about bringing people to the lord? How arrogant. The "lord" is very capable of working within everyone's heart. There's people here that reckon this planet is just a satanic playground. And all they see is a sense of bringing people to the lord so that when the shit hits the fan they think they'll be raptured away from the mess. Wake the heck up. If this planet is allowed to get into a worse mess, you'll be around to reap it dudes.

Jehovah slaughtered first born babies, why should he give a real shit about the health of this planet? You're belief is total illusion. I'd like nothing more than for you to come to your senses.

What makes you think your role is to save others somehow? What do you think you've been saved from then? You say I'm looking down on others, but surely it's the other way round, with you looking down from a heaven you mentally allow yourself to believe in.

Not sure you people really know how to reason your take on life.

manxboz

22-09-2009, 03:19 AM

I do not look down apon people, i am with them. You have every right to believe in what you believe and good for you. But i believe you are wrong, i won't fight it because thats wrong, i can only send you love and prayers. Yes The Lord works in peoples hearts but the person still has to except it, God didn't make slaves he made a race that were free to do what they want so that they may have the same test as he had.

tannah

22-09-2009, 03:29 AM

But i believe you are wrong,

Wrong about what? Explain it to me. What are you sending me prayers about?

manxboz

22-09-2009, 03:33 AM

tannah

22-09-2009, 03:55 AM

That this is an Illusion, that im looking down on others, that The Lord doesn't give a rat about us. I pray for many people, i pray that The Lord will work in their hearts and help them to come to know him more.

I said Jehovah, the child slaughterer doesn't give a shit about this planet. Christ does. Do you think there's a difference there? I really do. Christ doesn't commit atrocities, Jehovah is said to.

So actually the Lord does give a rat about us, and you are not quite quoting what I said correctly.

armoured_amazon

22-09-2009, 03:59 AM

I trust the Lord and his word, because I know it is his word.

+1

Great thread, miracles. :)

edit: I managed to wade through all the hatred and read what is worthwhile.

miracles

22-09-2009, 04:06 AM

I get the idea that you have been allowed to infiltrate this forum, without having to exercise the decency of using some reason behind your lame arguments. Not only do you have nothing valid to say about questions asked of you, but yours is the most disgusting faith to walk this earth. And I used to think Islam beat you to it, but I desist now.

You have presented nothing of any value when someone asks you to defend the god who kills innocent children You choose to be unpenetrable in your hipnotised, dangerous belief system.

It's about time fundamentalist bullshitters were asked to explain themselves without the usual speil about their bible justifying them.

Whatever psychological problems these fundamentalists may suffer from, it isn't right to leave it unchallenged for younger people to be influenced by. You bible thumpers need a psychiatrist, badly. You have the worst image of mankind imaginable. As if your attitude is any better than anyone else, that you should think yourselves worthy of being chosen ones. There's no chosen about you.

The latest hipnotised child nicolaj is just typical of total mental garbage to hit the scene. You are simply judgemental, and arrogant, and smug, and think God would waste its time bringing about your sordid dreams.

All the while, you don't use your energies to really help this planet in any meaningful way. What are any of you christians here really doing to help God's planet? Nothing. You're so busy looking down on people that don't buy your BS. You've given up on this planet as satans and then you wonder why its so polluted. The christians like you are the first to fail your responsabilities. I think you should get less smug and actually listen to what others have to say for a change.

Come on, wake up. Jesus wouldn't support you idiots for all the blood in the universe. You're simply blind people. It takes very little observation to see the fact. Nothing special about you at all at the moment.
That gave me a chuckle. God bless you.

miracles

22-09-2009, 04:08 AM

I don't consider it help to sit on a pedestal and tell others they will go to hell if they don't believe IN Jesus. I'm not attacking anyone.

So you think your job is about bringing people to the lord? How arrogant. The "lord" is very capable of working within everyone's heart. There's people here that reckon this planet is just a satanic playground. And all they see is a sense of bringing people to the lord so that when the shit hits the fan they think they'll be raptured away from the mess. Wake the heck up. If this planet is allowed to get into a worse mess, you'll be around to reap it dudes.

Jehovah slaughtered first born babies, why should he give a real shit about the health of this planet? You're belief is total illusion. I'd like nothing more than for you to come to your senses.

What makes you think your role is to save others somehow? What do you think you've been saved from then? You say I'm looking down on others, but surely it's the other way round, with you looking down from a heaven you mentally allow yourself to believe in.

Not sure you people really know how to reason your take on life.

Emm, I thought you said you dont believe in the bible, and your still harping on about slaughtered babies. I guess you do believe it then.

By the way, the planet travels 98 billion miles through deep empty space in a year, the old dunga is doing just fine. Save the children first.

miracles

22-09-2009, 04:14 AM

+1

Great thread, miracles. :)

edit: I managed to wade through all the hatred and read what is worthwhile.
Thank you armoured one.

nicolaj

22-09-2009, 08:45 AM

+1

Great thread, miracles. :)

edit: I managed to wade through all the hatred and read what is worthwhile.

+1 we shall know them by their fruits.

Jas 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, since you know that we will be judged more severely.

Jas 3:2 For we all stumble in many ways; if someone does not stumble in what he says, he is a mature man who can bridle his whole body.

Jas 3:3 If we put a bit into a horse's mouth to make it obey us, we control its whole body as well.

Jas 3:4 And think of a ship — although it is huge and is driven by strong winds, yet the pilot can steer it wherever he wants with just a small rudder.

Jas 3:5 So too the tongue is a tiny part of the body, yet it boasts great things. See how a little fire sets a whole forest ablaze!

Jas 3:6 Yes, the tongue is a fire, a world of wickedness. The tongue is so placed in our body that it defiles every part of it, setting ablaze the whole of our life; and it is set on fire by Gei-Hinnom itself.

Jas 3:7 For people have tamed and continue to tame all kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures;

Jas 3:8 but the tongue no one can tame — it is an unstable and evil thing, full of death-dealing poison!

Jas 3:9 With it we bless Adonai, the Father; and with it we curse people, who were made in the image of God.

Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing! Brothers, it isn't right for things to be this way.

Jas 3:11 A spring doesn't send both fresh and bitter water from the same opening, does it?

Jas 3:12 Can a fig tree yield olives, my brothers? or a grapevine, figs? Neither does salt water produce fresh.

Jas 3:13 Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him demonstrate it by his good way of life, by actions done in the humility that grows out of wisdom.

Jas 3:14 But if you harbor in your hearts bitter jealousy and selfish ambition, don't boast and attack the truth with lies!

Jas 3:15 This wisdom is not the kind that comes down from above; on the contrary, it is worldly, unspiritual, demonic.

themime

22-09-2009, 08:50 AM

Nice work miracles. Good to see a heart felt view expressed despite the haters.

miracles

22-09-2009, 09:46 AM

Nice work miracles. Good to see a heart felt view expressed despite the haters.
Thank you very much. :)

bluegrazz

22-09-2009, 10:02 AM

miracles

22-09-2009, 11:13 AM

Miracles, earlier in this thread someone posted this regarding you...

"with all due respect, you implied that tannah should slash his wrists before. I think his aggressive tone is justified here."

Is that true? I read this post and other post's you have written and while I dont agree (I am not a Christian) I always thought you seemed intelligent, friendly and patient even amongst alot of hatred being spewed at your belief system... In fact, I usually involve myself in these debates (normally I dont go to the 'religions' sub-forum) when they pop in general or 'News' on the side of Christians who I feel are really discriminated against and hated on more than any other religion- And I feel a kinship with Christians since the Nation I live in was founded on Christian Ideals (Not trying to debate that statement guys- I know what your going to say and your right but I am talking about the general populace)

...But, if you said that or if you have said similar stuff in posts I havnt seen, that really hurts my respect for you (for what its worth) and if its true, perhaps there is a reason for some of the 'bashing' going on- If you are representing a faith of peace and forgivness and then telling someone to "slit their wrists"

Sorry to derail, but I was reading what you had written (all good stuff) and then came across that comment and thought, How can this guy be promoting Christianity if he said something like that-

Anyhow...
That was a joke, obvioulsy I wouldn't imply that and mean it (i t was said about 6 months ago, he has said the same thing to me since then as well as calling me a wanker. Its just been resurected again recently by my best mate Michael Christopher which is usual baiting tactic. The bashing has gone on from day one mate, but its par for the course. And tannahs aggressive tone has been a constant with me and other Christians. So with all due respect thanks for your input but as far as Im concerened its just another excuse and you have jumped on the band wagon.

Anyhow...

There is no excuse for the Christian bashing that goes on, there never has been, other than the fact that it is a David Icke forum and is to be expected. Im not about to allow myself to be scapegoated as an exuse for the abuse though. No siree bob. That said, I have learened my lesson not to allow flipancy to enter into the debate or any form of humour or irony as it goes over the top of everybodies head as does the truth of the gospel. Quite happy for you to drag me out and have be beheaded though.

Just for the record this was one of his first ever post to me

Mate, your god can go to hell, as they say.:D Honestly, stfu (shut the fuck up) with your rubbish.

PS. Im not really here looking to be respected by people I don't even know by the way Nor do I really care for the opinions of people who dont know me .

bluegrazz

22-09-2009, 11:30 AM

Wow, I am certainly not jumping on any bandwagon- Nor wanting to behead anyone. Sorry I (apparently) came across as that.

I was merely asking a question based on an earlier comment.

miracles

22-09-2009, 11:46 AM

Wow, I am certainly not jumping on any bandwagon- Nor wanting to behead anyone. Sorry I (apparently) came across as that.

I was merely asking a question based on an earlier comment.

Well no you weren't actually you where quite happy to jump to conclusions and let me and everyone know your level of respect (or lack thereof) for me as well as passing judgement. That said Im glad you added a positive comment regarding the OP. Thank you.

nicolaj

22-09-2009, 03:33 PM

Miracles..:)

Joh 15:17 This is what I command you: keep loving each other!

Joh 15:18 "If the world hates you, understand that it hated me first.

Joh 15:19 If you belonged to the world, the world would have loved its own. But because you do not belong to the world — on the contrary, I have picked you out of the world — therefore the world hates you.

manxboz

22-09-2009, 03:36 PM

Very good quotes Nicolaj, it's so very true, the members of The Lords church will be attacked by many but those that weather the storms will come out stronger and sit with The Lord in his kingdom.

nicolaj

22-09-2009, 03:44 PM

manxboz

22-09-2009, 03:48 PM

Thats so true, we can never truely understand what The Christ did for us. But i will continue to be his soldier until the day i die and if that be because some government forces me to then so be it.

tannah

22-09-2009, 04:38 PM

Miracles, earlier in this thread someone posted this regarding you...

"with all due respect, you implied that tannah should slash his wrists before. I think his aggressive tone is justified here."

Is that true? I read this post and other post's you have written and while I dont agree (I am not a Christian) I always thought you seemed intelligent, friendly and patient even amongst alot of hatred being spewed at your belief system... In fact, I usually involve myself in these debates (normally I dont go to the 'religions' sub-forum) when they pop in general or 'News' on the side of Christians who I feel are really discriminated against and hated on more than any other religion- And I feel a kinship with Christians since the Nation I live in was founded on Christian Ideals (Not trying to debate that statement guys- I know what your going to say and your right but I am talking about the general populace)

...But, if you said that or if you have said similar stuff in posts I havnt seen, that really hurts my respect for you (for what its worth) and if its true, perhaps there is a reason for some of the 'bashing' going on- If you are representing a faith of peace and forgivness and then telling someone to "slit their wrists"

Sorry to derail, but I was reading what you had written (all good stuff) and then came across that comment and thought, How can this guy be promoting Christianity if he said something like that-

Anyhow...

Personally I think I'm done here. Going round in childish circles is not my idea of positive progress.

Miracles calls sensible questions an attack on Christians. But actually it's an enquiry on christianity. And when no reasonable answers are being given, but just parroting, regarding senstive things like a God slaying first born babies,
it does get a bit personal. A person starts off with observations, and within a few posts hits a brick wall, and then the emotions start getting hot and it becomes another childish round.

I think the majortity of the so called religious people around here are arrogant. Have them telling me I go to hell for not accepting their doctrine, and then denying me the right to a reaction, based on my own spiritual insights. Or rather sitting on a pedestal and lookign down on anything I may have to say, just because they have a book that justifies them. Very dangerous stuff, but they put it down to love. They see no worth in mankind, only that which God can do in their place.

It's no different to a silly regimented dictatorship, where we get an ego rush from thinking we have God in a box and then can use it to feel justified.

It's sick, the whole thing here is sad, and I admire those like seanx who will probably keep going. I'm not for now. Had enough of it.

Onward Christian soldiers, infiltrate and establish base
But not for me
Coz I won't worship a God with a double face.

The difference between what I say to Miracles and what he says to me is that I don't ever think of reporting him for abuse. Whereas he does, and it has got me a few warnings. And he is supposed to be the christian that turns the other cheek. Yet, as usual, words are cheap, and God knows it.

The parable of the good Samaritan, that's worthy of any book. A God that slays babies is a nasty shite and a destestful example, and those that are influenced by such a being can only take on its qualities. And to make it worse they can then feel justified through the other face, this Jesus Christ story, which is a total distortion of the path we are to walk to get to the true source of God.

michael christopher

23-09-2009, 12:06 AM

I think the majortity of the so called religious people around here are arrogant. Have them telling me I go to hell for not accepting their doctrine, and then denying me the right to a reaction, based on my own spiritual insights. Or rather sitting on a pedestal and lookign down on anything I may have to say, just because they have a book that justifies them. Very dangerous stuff, but they put it down to love. They see no worth in mankind, only that which God can do in their place.

Isn't it funny how you have just pointed out in one paragraph what Christians are unable to realize in their countless reiterations of stupid dogma?

I really think needing an external source and relying on a book (filled with murder and contradiction) may be a sign of spiritual - and perhaps even slightly mental - retardation.

The difference between what I say to Miracles and what he says to me is that I don't ever think of reporting him for abuse. Whereas he does, and it has got me a few warnings. And he is supposed to be the christian that turns the other cheek. Yet, as usual, words are cheap, and God knows it.

Isn't it funny that M isn't banned yet? And how many times has he said he's leaving? About 666 times now?

miracles

23-09-2009, 12:06 AM

armoured_amazon

23-09-2009, 12:10 AM

Very good quotes Nicolaj, it's so very true, the members of The Lords church will be attacked by many but those that weather the storms will come out stronger and sit with The Lord in his kingdom.

Praise God

We could never pay back in a billion years what our Lord did for us..so to be abused by the world is a small price to pay.

Thats so true, we can never truely understand what The Christ did for us. But i will continue to be his soldier until the day i die and if that be because some government forces me to then so be it.

+1 to all the above. :)

miracles

23-09-2009, 12:15 AM

Personally I think I'm done here. Going round in childish circles is not my idea of positive progress.

Miracles calls sensible questions an attack on Christians. But actually it's an enquiry on christianity. And when no reasonable answers are being given, but just parroting, regarding senstive things like a God slaying first born babies,
it does get a bit personal. A person starts off with observations, and within a few posts hits a brick wall, and then the emotions start getting hot and it becomes another childish round.

I think the majortity of the so called religious people around here are arrogant. Have them telling me I go to hell for not accepting their doctrine, and then denying me the right to a reaction, based on my own spiritual insights. Or rather sitting on a pedestal and lookign down on anything I may have to say, just because they have a book that justifies them. Very dangerous stuff, but they put it down to love. They see no worth in mankind, only that which God can do in their place.

It's no different to a silly regimented dictatorship, where we get an ego rush from thinking we have God in a box and then can use it to feel justified.

It's sick, the whole thing here is sad, and I admire those like seanx who will probably keep going. I'm not for now. Had enough of it.

Onward Christian soldiers, infiltrate and establish base
But not for me
Coz I won't worship a God with a double face.

The difference between what I say to Miracles and what he says to me is that I don't ever think of reporting him for abuse. Whereas he does, and it has got me a few warnings. And he is supposed to be the christian that turns the other cheek. Yet, as usual, words are cheap, and God knows it.

The parable of the good Samaritan, that's worthy of any book. A God that slays babies is a nasty shite and a destestful example, and those that are influenced by such a being can only take on its qualities. And to make it worse they can then feel justified through the other face, this Jesus Christ story, which is a total distortion of the path we are to walk to get to the true source of God.
If you had been of the attutide of manking genuine inquires and sensible questions, which is 100% the opposite of your approach from day one, things would be a lot different. To report abuse is not being unchristian I might add. Im not an abusive person. There are people here, namely MC who would jump on any opportunity to have me band, if I had been abusive as you say I have been, I would have been banned, but the truth is I am not. The fact that you make mention of seanx who does nothing but attack and redicule is telling of your true anti-christ colours.

michael christopher

23-09-2009, 12:16 AM

If you had been of the attutide of manking genuine inquires and sensible questions, which is 100% the opposite of your approach from day one, things would be a lot different. To report abuse is not being unchristian I might add. Im not an abusive person. There are people here, namely MC who would jump on any opportunity to have me band, if I had been abusive as you say I have been, I would have been banned, but the truth is I am not. The fact that you make mention of seanx who does nothing but attack and redicule is telling of your true anti-christ colours.

You are one of the most hateful, angry, negative and domineering people I've ever seen on the internet, so yes, let me back you up and say I would definitely like to see you banned. You have broken TOS so many times it's absurd, you are nothing but an attacker.

I even remember one night when the warnings were being handed out that you started going through as many old posts as you could to edit out the insults!

Now will you deny having done that?

miracles

23-09-2009, 12:17 AM

Isn't it funny how you have just pointed out in one paragraph what Christians are unable to realize in their countless reiterations of stupid dogma?

I really think needing an external source and relying on a book (filled with murder and contradiction) may be a sign of spiritual - and perhaps even slightly mental - retardation.

Isn't it funny that M isn't banned yet? And how many times has he said he's leaving? About 666 times now?

LOL @ 666. You would have had me banned if you could have, you even had a massive hissy fit about it, when are you going to grow up?

Yes I have said I am leaving, and I have left, I have also come back again. get over it.

miracles

23-09-2009, 12:18 AM

You are one of the most hateful, angry, negative and domineering people I've ever seen on the internet, so yes, let me back you up and say I would definitely like to see you banned. You have broken TOS so many times it's absurd, you are nothing but an attacker.

I even remember one night when the warnings were being handed out that you started going through as many old posts as you could to edit out the insults!

Now will you deny having done that?
Oh Dont be so silly. Thats a massive lie. Do you have to resort to such under hand tactics as that? Yes I suppose you do. I remeber one night you posted something in general about the terrible Christians ruining the forum and 90 percent of people didnt agree with you.

michael christopher

23-09-2009, 12:18 AM

LOL @ 666. You would have had me banned if you could have, you even had a massive hissy fit about it, when are you going to grow up?

Yes I have said I am leaving, and I have left, I have also come back again. get over it.

Uh, if you came back, that means you never left. :)

BTW, leaving for two hours doesn't even count as leaving.

miracles

23-09-2009, 12:21 AM

Uh, if you came back, that means you never left. :)

BTW, leaving for two hours doesn't even count as leaving.
What ever you say. *sigh*

tannah

23-09-2009, 03:05 AM

If you had been of the attutide of manking genuine inquires and sensible questions, which is 100% the opposite of your approach from day one, things would be a lot different. To report abuse is not being unchristian I might add. Im not an abusive person.

Uh huh.

Actually, before I go do something a bit more useful, but not to slash my wrists as you would suggest, here's a little something I found. I wasn't really looking for this; I just wanted it clear again in my mind who's attitude it was, mine or yours, that has led to this silly to and fro. But look what I find from your "Irrefutable proof that God wrote the bible" thread:

Originally Posted by miracles
Oh dear wanky Planky. Who wants the freaken british army running around their manner, every one hates Poms, especially the Irish. My dearest Plank, I'm one of these people who know somethings, your one of these idiots who know nothings okay plank

Originally Posted by bealert
see you have turned to insults yet you call yourself a man of god...most unlikley. Its a shame Ireland had its problems but i can see why it did with people like you around

Miracles:
Get lost prick. You couldn't give a fuck about Ireland unless it suits your wanked up view of religion. I dont call my self a man God either nobache. The thread is about the poof of the bible, not my spirituality. Im just getting started, carry on, Ill wipe the floor with your snivelling snotty nose.

Do christians have another word except abusive for your kind of attitude?

I'm sure we can all find examples of this kinda stuff. The point is stop being holier than thou you hipocrite. Just be thankful your posts probably don't tend to get reported as much. I've never reported one single post where you have abused me in some way. What's more, I won't. So don't be shy, give it some more.

miracles

23-09-2009, 03:25 AM

Uh huh.

Actually, before I go do something a bit more useful, but not to slash my wrists as you would suggest, here's a little something I found. I wasn't really looking for this; I just wanted it clear again in my mind who's attitude it was, mine or yours, that has led to this silly to and fro. But look what I find from your "Irrefutable proof that God wrote the bible" thread:

Do christians have another word except abusive for your kind of attitude?

I'm sure we can all find examples of this kinda stuff. The point is stop being holier than thou you hipocrite. Just be thankful your posts probably don't tend to get reported as much. I've never reported one single post where you have abused me in some way. What's more, I won't. So don't be shy, give it some more.
Lol he started it, I finished it. Bye now

tannah

23-09-2009, 03:35 AM

Lol he started it, I finished it. Bye now

Sure, why am I not surprised by that answer. It's always others that start it right Miracles? Started what exactly? Started refusing to believe that your irrefutable proof that God wrote the bible, through Panin's number system, isn't a proof but just another claim? And when you read people disagreeing with you, you simply dismiss them arrogantly, tell them they are spiritually dead and can't understand, and reiterate your claim? You call that a discussion? I think you need some real lessons in discussion skills, before you drive everyone away in despair. Let's see if we can expose this dreamworld of yours.

Hello again.

tannah

23-09-2009, 03:55 AM

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Evidently no one gets near God with out going through Jesus first.

Or without taking on Christ Self. Your way implies any standard of spirituality can get into heaven. My way implies that rewards are for those who work at it.

The lack of credibility in the statement you make regarding that passage is in the idea that it makes a mockery of the many good deeds done by our fellow humans towards others. You imply God will simply snub this.

I would challenge the image of a christian fanfare, cheerleaders , obstinate deaf egos entering heaven (obviously that doesn't mean all christians, but most of those who seem to park their butts on this forum, and their type). I prefer the procession of open people, those that led their life in service to others whenever possible, mindful of spiritual growth.

What do you think Miracles? Does God run a second hand rag and bone shop, or is heaven what the enlightened spirits experience?

tannah

23-09-2009, 04:03 AM

What happened here? It talks about eyes, where they physically blind before? I would suggest no they weren’t. So what happened? Some go as far as to say Satan was doing man a favor here, like opening our eyes to see what God sees so that we can be just like God. I don’t buy that for a New York second. What happened was that they knew good and evil. Before this they only knew “good”, they where innocent. Now knowing and seeing it in the spiritual, they knew they had done an evil thing. Where they now evil? Maybe, maybe not) they where out of fellowship with God, who is “all that is good”.

As the story goes, this is called “the fall of mankind” This is where sin and death entered into the equation, spiritual death and spiritual blindness. Their eyes where opened to their death and sin. What a horrible wake up call. Thanks Satan.

Trouble is, this is just a story. And as far as stories go, it was borrowed from somewhere else. It's up to you if you want to live your life on a story, but to use it to spread the idea of a fall into sin means that one really really needs to research the origins of this story.

The question is, why do you choose to believe this story?

miracles

23-09-2009, 04:06 AM

Sure, why am I not surprised by that answer. It's always others that start it right Miracles? Started what exactly? Started refusing to believe that your irrefutable proof that God wrote the bible, through Panin's number system, isn't a proof but just another claim? And when you read people disagreeing with you, you simply dismiss them arrogantly, tell them they are spiritually dead and can't understand, and reiterate your claim? You call that a discussion? I think you need some real lessons in discussion skills, before you drive everyone away in despair. Let's see if we can expose this dreamworld of yours.

Hello again.

Heres a few lovely words of wisdom and insight from you on the orthodoxy thread.

I did read twat head, and it's one of the reasons you can fuck off with your pathetic religion

Fuck off you pathetic little shit-ass. Stop being deceitful, you who is inspired by the frickin egoistic lying ferk-head daddy-o-illuson.

Anyway, fuck your brand of christianity, you narrow minded lack of reasonable debate robot

And thanks for helping me realize just what a load of shit Cristianity has turned into. Move over robots.

The only thing you'll be taking pleasure in, stfd STFU twat, is in reporting this post.

All the best to everyone else.

tannah

23-09-2009, 04:16 AM

Heres a few lovely words of wisdom and insight from you on the orthodoxy thread.

Oh right, still want to dwell on those moments right? Well, stfd started it and I finished it.:D What do you think of that? Why not rewind, like you claim I should rewind to what led you to make your statements?

Acted better than me at times have you?

Yes, I freely admit it, you guys wind me up at times. Why? because no matter how many times a perfectly sensible question is asked of you, you have no intention of replying sensibly. One asks and asks why a God of Love can justify the mass murder of babies. And what do you respond with? Go on, lets hear it again.

Also, tell me Miracles, are you the one to throw a stone at me?
Can you think of a statement I've made that is worse than you telling me I should slash my wrists? Where was your cheerleader when you said that, eh? Where was your +1?

I'm going to make sure you guys don't wind me up in the future, because some of us are going to expose your dream world. This forum isn't for you to stamp out any real growth by the usual robotic propaganda. Hang around.

PS..you still refuse to accept responsability for your own abuse.

miracles

23-09-2009, 04:25 AM

Oh right, still want to dwell on those moments right? .
Oh right only since you keep casting them up yeah. Why not, lets do it.

STFD took all of that crap from you one the chin.

tannah

23-09-2009, 04:28 AM

Oh right only since you keep casting them up yeah. Why not, lets do it.

Casting them up? I don't quite get you.

Are you going to respond on the other points raised, not just who can say the W word more?
I'll be reminding you till you do.

miracles

23-09-2009, 04:30 AM

Casting them up? I don't quite get you.
Im not suprised

tannah

23-09-2009, 04:32 AM

Im not suprised

Got nothing to say about your robotic story telling from your book then?
Surely you don't think you can be a robot here, and suddenly become a human in heaven do you?

miracles

23-09-2009, 04:39 AM

Got nothing to say about your robotic story telling from your book then?
Surely you don't think you can be a robot here, and suddenly become a human in heaven do you?
Youve been dribblng about the baby killing God from day one, I have responded with sound reasoning as to why that happened, you have ignored it.

Ive been reading Ickes theories that the powers that be come from the nephalim blood lines and that these leaders are deomically possessed, the thing is these where all wiped out in the flood so that's a crock, Oh and he used the bible to back up the theory too. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

mind1universe

23-09-2009, 04:40 AM

Im not suprised

I want to be surprised. ;)

Now I'm going to ask you ask you a rhetorical question.

What is Satan
and who is Satan

miracles

23-09-2009, 04:41 AM

I want to be surprised. ;)

Now I'm going to ask you ask you a rhetorical question.

What is Satan
and who is Satan
In other words you dont require an answer??

tannah

23-09-2009, 05:07 AM

[QUOTE]Youve been dribblng about the baby killing God from day one, I have responded with sound reasoning as to why that happened, you have ignored it.

Really? When? Where's the link to your post that explains? Or try again here.

It isn't just about baby killings, it's about a number of things that do not add up.

miracles

23-09-2009, 05:21 AM

[quote=miracles;1058279269]

Really? When? Where's the link to your post that explains? Or try again here.

It isn't just about baby killings, it's about a number of things that do not add up.
Read "Is God a War Criminal thread"

mind1universe

23-09-2009, 05:47 AM

In other words you dont require an answer??

No, I can predict the obvious, but go on answer it

miracles

23-09-2009, 05:55 AM

No, I can predict the obvious, but go on answer it
Oh I thought you realised what rhetorical meant? It means requiring no answer. What was the question again? Oh right who and what is satan.

Satan is God's number one fallen angel. Some say He is still employed by God to do His bidding, IE He still serves God. Im not too sure about that one. But as God is ultimately in Control, it probably has some merit to it. Job seems to show that He does this.

he is the prince of the power of the air, he is also a musical instrument.

mind1universe

23-09-2009, 05:16 PM

Oh I thought you realised what rhetorical meant? It means requiring no answer. What was the question again? Oh right who and what is satan.

Satan is God's number one fallen angel. Some say He is still employed by God to do His bidding, IE He still serves God. Im not too sure about that one. But as God is ultimately in Control, it probably has some merit to it. Job seems to show that He does this.

he is the prince of the power of the air, he is also a musical instrument.

He "fell" to create this world.

Thats all i'm going to say. You do not know Satan. He does not serve god. God does not serve lucifer either. Take it from me ;) The universe gives. No entity serves another. It would be advised to get out in the real world and get to know yourself. You do not know the reasons why these names come up in the bible. You also don't even know what God means(only from what you have read) Get to know yourself and please stop taking notes from people and then changing so it comes out of your ass! We have to deal with it you know.

But I will tell you this.This reality is a game. Just a test of the divine and we all be going home soon.

Stop forcing your brainwashed beliefs onto others. What you believe is your choice. What you believe to be real is what you looked outside yourself. You have to look within yourself to find truth. Your not going to show people the way by telling people what is said in the bible. You do not have that authority as do I. People have their own individual path. Your disrespecting yourself and others in this regard.

The bible has a lot of hidden meanings and codes you would not understand. People have to read between the lines to really know what it's trying to tell you. I would also state to you, not to take the bible so literally. The bible has some merit, but the Vatican had taken many scripts out of it. The bible you see and read is censored too. The bible was given to humanity like it's a trump card, or a backbone to the relevations that are coming. But the truth is, humans are so predictable one only has to read the bible and then the words written will store in your subconscious and therefore acts out in reality.

Stop been so gulllable in future.