Prime Numbers in the Bible!

[abstra]

If a set of prime numbers were to be found embeded in the Jesus story would not this suggest the story to be of Alien origin. Since science now recognises maths as the universal language of Aliens then such a sequence of primes would be of extreme interest.

Well! Can you find them because I have and they are indeed in sequence and they add up to a primer as they do in the film contact. In actual fact three of them I found by accident in the same place.

[truth finder]

What are u on about?

[manxboz]

If a set of prime numbers were to be found embeded in the Jesus story would not this suggest the story to be of Alien origin. Since science now recognises maths as the universal language of Aliens then such a sequence of primes would be of extreme interest.

Well! Can you find them because I have and they are indeed in sequence and they add up to a primer as they do in the film contact. In actual fact three of them I found by accident in the same place.

Please go on.

[miracles]

If a set of prime numbers were to be found embeded in the Jesus story would not this suggest the story to be of Alien origin. Since science now recognises maths as the universal language of Aliens then such a sequence of primes would be of extreme interest.

Well! Can you find them because I have and they are indeed in sequence and they add up to a primer as they do in the film contact. In actual fact three of them I found by accident in the same place.

The bible is full of evidence of this, it's a well known fact. It proves God wrote it, I supposed if you want to call it alien, thats okay. I call it God.

Id like to see your evidence all the same.

[armoured_amazon]

The bible is full of evidence of this, it's a well known fact. It proves God wrote it, I supposed if you want to call it alien, thats okay. I call it God.

Id like to see your evidence all the same.

+1 :o

[abstra]

The bible is full of evidence of this, it's a well known fact. It proves God wrote it, I supposed if you want to call it alien, thats okay. I call it God.

Id like to see your evidence all the same.

God did not write the Bible. God is the universe. If you think about it like that it makes much more sense. The Bible has been written by someone else and part of it is about the universe in simple terms.

Simplicity 1
Trillogy 3
Pentagon 5
Severity 7
Complexities 11
Infinity 13

Adds up to 40 the most common number in the Bible 'a Primer' clever Boy.

[abstra]

Jesum Is One
The Three Mary’s
The Five Wounds Of The Christ
The Seven Shields of Atonement
There Are Twelve Disciples, One Is A Fake, Judas (JUDA)
There Are Twelve Disciples And A Jesum

(It Starts And Ends With Jesus. I am the 1st and the Last. (RevelationS))

[miracles]

God did not write the Bible. God is the universe. If you think about it like that it makes much more sense. The Bible has been written by someone else and part of it is about the universe in simple terms.

Simplicity 1
Trillogy 3
Pentagon 5
Severity 7
Complexities 11
Infinity 13

Adds up to 40 the most common number in the Bible 'a Primer' clever Boy.

In your opinion who wrote it then? An alien life force?

[abstra]

In your opinion who wrote it then? An alien life force?

If you look into it the Bible was more constructed from other ancient literature over thousands of years. Evidence for example suggests content of RevelationS is over 5 thousand years old.

As recently pointed out the creation of Earth by God in Seven days is wrong in terms of timing only. Allow evolutionary processes do it then the actual sequence stated is correct, not in just seven days though.

[abstra]

In your opinion who wrote it then? An alien life force?

Yes!

[miracles]

If you look into it the Bible was more constructed from other ancient literature over thousands of years. Evidence for example suggests content of RevelationS is over 5 thousand years old.

As recently pointed out the creation of Earth by God in Seven days is wrong in terms of timing only. Allow evolutionary processes do it then the actual sequence stated is correct, not in just seven days though.

he did it in six and had a rest on the seventh.

[miracles]

The Hebrew Bible consists of 39 books, of 3 x 13 (Feature 1), of which the anonymous books have thirteen and the non anonymous books have 26, or 2 x 13 (Feature 2); the same division is maintained thus: the Law and the Prophets have 26 or 2 x 13; the Writings have thirteen (feature 3). The Law comprises books 1-5; the Prophets comprise books 6-26; the Writing books 27-39. But the sum of the numbers 1, 5, 6, 26, 27, 39 is 104, or 8x13 (feature 4). The sum of the order numbers of books 1 to 39, is naturally a multiple of thirteen, namely 78-, or 13 x 60; but this number is divided thus: the only two named after women, Ruth and Esther, are books 31 and 34, their sum is 65, or 5 x 13; leaving for the other books 715, itself 13 x 5 x 11, or 55 x 13 (Feature 5); with the sum of the figures – thirteen (feature 6)

The chance for these six features of thirteen being undersigned is only one in 256,851, 595, less than one in a quarter of a billion

It so happens, however, that every thirteenth book of the 39, or 3 x 13 is: Jeremiah, Malachi, 2 Chronicles. The numbers of chapters in these three books are 52, 3, 36, or 91 in all. or, 7 x 13. (Feature 7); of which Jeremiah has 52, or 3 x 13 (Feature 8). And if Ezra is the writer of 2 Chronicles, then the numeric values of Jeremiah, Malachi and Ezra are 271, 101, 278, with 650 as their sum, or 50x 13 (Feature 9). As the authorship, however, of Chronicles by Ezra is not yet established before the reader at this stage, only two additional features of thirteen will be here considered. Now the chance for the two features to happen together is one I 325’ and the chance obtained above of only one in 256, 851, 595 is thus diminished 325 time to only on in some forty billions. A DESIGN of thirteen thus runs through the mere number of books of the Bible.

The persons named in the Hebrew as its writers are: Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the twelve so-called minor prophets, David, Solomon, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah. Their number is 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 1); of these those having odd numbers for their numeric values are 14, or 2 x 7; those having even numbers are seven (Feature 2). Their numeric value as above is 3808, or 7x17x2x2x2x2x2, itself a multiple of seven (Feature 3), with seven factors (Feature 4). The sum, 3808, or 544 x 7, is divided thus: The Law and the Prophets have 2833, or 7x419, itself a multiple of seven, with the sum of the figures if its factors 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 5); the Writings have 875, or 7x5x5x5, or 125x7 (Feature 6) ; of which in turn David has 14, or 2x7, and Solomon to Nehemiah have 861, or, 123x7 (Feature 7)

These 21 numeric values form the following and only groups of seven

Moses to Hosea have 1,554 or 7x2x3x37
Joel to Jonah have 385 or 7x55
Micah to Zephaniah have 630, or 7x90
Haggai has 21 or 7x3
Zechariah-Malachi have 343 or 7x7x7
David has 14 or 7x2
Solomon to Nehemiah have 861 or 7x123
But these are seven (Feature 8) ; of which the factors of the first group have for their sum 49, or seven (Feature9) sevens (Feature 10) ; the fifth group has 343, or seven sevens (Feature 11) of sevens (Feature 12)

As the chance for these twelve features of seven in the mere factor of the list of the Bible writers is only on in 1,302,289,781,830, less than one in THRITEEN HUNDRED BILLIONS, a design of sevens is thus seen to run through the mere list of names of the Bible writers, just as it has already been seen that a design of thirteens runs through the mere list of the Bible books.

Pretty talented Alien.

[abstra]

The Hebrew Bible consists of 39 books, of 3 x 13 (Feature 1), of which the anonymous books have thirteen and the non anonymous books have 26, or 2 x 13 (Feature 2); the same division is maintained thus: the Law and the Prophets have 26 or 2 x 13; the Writings have thirteen (feature 3). The Law comprises books 1-5; the Prophets comprise books 6-26; the Writing books 27-39. But the sum of the numbers 1, 5, 6, 26, 27, 39 is 104, or 8x13 (feature 4). The sum of the order numbers of books 1 to 39, is naturally a multiple of thirteen, namely 78-, or 13 x 60; but this number is divided thus: the only two named after women, Ruth and Esther, are books 31 and 34, their sum is 65, or 5 x 13; leaving for the other books 715, itself 13 x 5 x 11, or 55 x 13 (Feature 5); with the sum of the figures – thirteen (feature 6)

The chance for these six features of thirteen being undersigned is only one in 256,851, 595, less than one in a quarter of a billion

It so happens, however, that every thirteenth book of the 39, or 3 x 13 is: Jeremiah, Malachi, 2 Chronicles. The numbers of chapters in these three books are 52, 3, 36, or 91 in all. or, 7 x 13. (Feature 7); of which Jeremiah has 52, or 3 x 13 (Feature 8). And if Ezra is the writer of 2 Chronicles, then the numeric values of Jeremiah, Malachi and Ezra are 271, 101, 278, with 650 as their sum, or 50x 13 (Feature 9). As the authorship, however, of Chronicles by Ezra is not yet established before the reader at this stage, only two additional features of thirteen will be here considered. Now the chance for the two features to happen together is one I 325’ and the chance obtained above of only one in 256, 851, 595 is thus diminished 325 time to only on in some forty billions. A DESIGN of thirteen thus runs through the mere number of books of the Bible.

The persons named in the Hebrew as its writers are: Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the twelve so-called minor prophets, David, Solomon, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah. Their number is 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 1); of these those having odd numbers for their numeric values are 14, or 2 x 7; those having even numbers are seven (Feature 2). Their numeric value as above is 3808, or 7x17x2x2x2x2x2, itself a multiple of seven (Feature 3), with seven factors (Feature 4). The sum, 3808, or 544 x 7, is divided thus: The Law and the Prophets have 2833, or 7x419, itself a multiple of seven, with the sum of the figures if its factors 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 5); the Writings have 875, or 7x5x5x5, or 125x7 (Feature 6) ; of which in turn David has 14, or 2x7, and Solomon to Nehemiah have 861, or, 123x7 (Feature 7)

These 21 numeric values form the following and only groups of seven

Moses to Hosea have 1,554 or 7x2x3x37
Joel to Jonah have 385 or 7x55
Micah to Zephaniah have 630, or 7x90
Haggai has 21 or 7x3
Zechariah-Malachi have 343 or 7x7x7
David has 14 or 7x2
Solomon to Nehemiah have 861 or 7x123
But these are seven (Feature 8) ; of which the factors of the first group have for their sum 49, or seven (Feature9) sevens (Feature 10) ; the fifth group has 343, or seven sevens (Feature 11) of sevens (Feature 12)

As the chance for these twelve features of seven in the mere factor of the list of the Bible writers is only on in 1,302,289,781,830, less than one in THRITEEN HUNDRED BILLIONS, a design of sevens is thus seen to run through the mere list of names of the Bible writers, just as it has already been seen that a design of thirteens runs through the mere list of the Bible books.

Pretty talented Alien.

Yes but you have enough intelligence to see it so your catching up.

On a side note I note how the 'TruTh' is the suject matter of some Bilical writings. Some years ago I was watching a cosmologist Brian Cox on TV. He was speculating as to the origins of the universe and then said 'Is ThaT The TruTh'. In one line a cosmologist had bought God and the universe into the same Arena.

[disorder2k8]

You can find shapes and patterns in everything when you look long and hard enough, its the fractal nature of our society and existence.

The idea that aliens mingled with our ancient selves is very interesting, but I don't believe they wrote this book. However, I do think the writers were more intelligent than they appeared and perhaps scholarly and knowledgeable of stars and cycles, but only because language and numbers was considered a secret art form as such and nobody was allowed to 'know' much


essentially I believe the writers just knew more than the unwashed heathen masses

[miracles]

You can find shapes and patterns in everything when you look long and hard enough, its the fractal nature of our society and existence.

The idea that aliens mingled with our ancient selves is very interesting, but I don't believe they wrote this book. However, I do think the writers were more intelligent than they appeared and perhaps scholarly and knowledgeable of stars and cycles, but only because language and numbers was considered a secret art form as such and nobody was allowed to 'know' much


essentially I believe the writers just knew more than the unwashed heathen masses

Interesting opinion. Although I tend to think the patterns in bible point to more than mere human intelligence, try as we might and believe me people have tried, they cant replicate these biblical patterns.

[abstra]

The Hebrew Bible consists of 39 books, of 3 x 13 (Feature 1), of which the anonymous books have thirteen and the non anonymous books have 26, or 2 x 13 (Feature 2); the same division is maintained thus: the Law and the Prophets have 26 or 2 x 13; the Writings have thirteen (feature 3). The Law comprises books 1-5; the Prophets comprise books 6-26; the Writing books 27-39. But the sum of the numbers 1, 5, 6, 26, 27, 39 is 104, or 8x13 (feature 4). The sum of the order numbers of books 1 to 39, is naturally a multiple of thirteen, namely 78-, or 13 x 60; but this number is divided thus: the only two named after women, Ruth and Esther, are books 31 and 34, their sum is 65, or 5 x 13; leaving for the other books 715, itself 13 x 5 x 11, or 55 x 13 (Feature 5); with the sum of the figures – thirteen (feature 6)

The chance for these six features of thirteen being undersigned is only one in 256,851, 595, less than one in a quarter of a billion

It so happens, however, that every thirteenth book of the 39, or 3 x 13 is: Jeremiah, Malachi, 2 Chronicles. The numbers of chapters in these three books are 52, 3, 36, or 91 in all. or, 7 x 13. (Feature 7); of which Jeremiah has 52, or 3 x 13 (Feature 8). And if Ezra is the writer of 2 Chronicles, then the numeric values of Jeremiah, Malachi and Ezra are 271, 101, 278, with 650 as their sum, or 50x 13 (Feature 9). As the authorship, however, of Chronicles by Ezra is not yet established before the reader at this stage, only two additional features of thirteen will be here considered. Now the chance for the two features to happen together is one I 325’ and the chance obtained above of only one in 256, 851, 595 is thus diminished 325 time to only on in some forty billions. A DESIGN of thirteen thus runs through the mere number of books of the Bible.

The persons named in the Hebrew as its writers are: Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the twelve so-called minor prophets, David, Solomon, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah. Their number is 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 1); of these those having odd numbers for their numeric values are 14, or 2 x 7; those having even numbers are seven (Feature 2). Their numeric value as above is 3808, or 7x17x2x2x2x2x2, itself a multiple of seven (Feature 3), with seven factors (Feature 4). The sum, 3808, or 544 x 7, is divided thus: The Law and the Prophets have 2833, or 7x419, itself a multiple of seven, with the sum of the figures if its factors 21, or 3 x 7 (Feature 5); the Writings have 875, or 7x5x5x5, or 125x7 (Feature 6) ; of which in turn David has 14, or 2x7, and Solomon to Nehemiah have 861, or, 123x7 (Feature 7)

These 21 numeric values form the following and only groups of seven

Moses to Hosea have 1,554 or 7x2x3x37
Joel to Jonah have 385 or 7x55
Micah to Zephaniah have 630, or 7x90
Haggai has 21 or 7x3
Zechariah-Malachi have 343 or 7x7x7
David has 14 or 7x2
Solomon to Nehemiah have 861 or 7x123
But these are seven (Feature 8) ; of which the factors of the first group have for their sum 49, or seven (Feature9) sevens (Feature 10) ; the fifth group has 343, or seven sevens (Feature 11) of sevens (Feature 12)

As the chance for these twelve features of seven in the mere factor of the list of the Bible writers is only on in 1,302,289,781,830, less than one in THRITEEN HUNDRED BILLIONS, a design of sevens is thus seen to run through the mere list of names of the Bible writers, just as it has already been seen that a design of thirteens runs through the mere list of the Bible books.

Pretty talented Alien.

Don't know anything about numerology by any chance do you.

[swethirte]

God did not write the Bible. God is the universe. If you think about it like that it makes much more sense. The Bible has been written by someone else and part of it is about the universe in simple terms.

Simplicity 1
Trillogy 3
Pentagon 5
Severity 7
Complexities 11
Infinity 13

Adds up to 40 the most common number in the Bible 'a Primer' clever Boy.

1 is not a prime number, but 2 is. Prime number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[abstra]

1 is not a prime number, but 2 is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_numbers

Yeah I know it isn't. I battled with that one for a while. 2 as a prime number is the odd one out though. Its the only even prime number for example.

In the 1st list of primes I put up 'Jesus is One' but then Jesus appears as the last word of the last line 'and a Jesus' so he appears twice as if to say 'I am One but am actually 2'. A stretch of the imagination I know but it works.

[miracles]

Don't know anything about numerology by any chance do you.

Ive delved into it a little it's rather interesting. According to my birth date Im a 40/4 and some of so the called "lifes purpose" of a 40/4 are in alignment with and characteristic of my lifes journey so far.

[daseem]

I find numerology fascinating and I think it can be found in quite a few religions and religious works however usually the researchers and those putting it forward have done some manipulation or short-cutting to get the numbers right. As I understand it is big in judaism.

[abstra]

he did it in six and had a rest on the seventh.

The Earths not 12000 years old is it?

[miracles]

The Earths not 12000 years old is it?

From a biblical perspective, man has been earth for about 6000 years, the earth could be billions of years old. Who cares?? Scentists (including some bible believing scientists) seem to think there is evidence to suggest the universe it 14.5 billion years old, does that include earth? Dont know really. I know it would take about 58 billion years travelling at the speed of light to reach the end of the known universe. However I think "time" persay is only an earthly dimension.

Why what do you think?

[disorder2k8]

time is a perception we have based on the cycle of the sun and moon, but off planet time can still exist, because our time is measured as the frequency of a crystal vibration, time could still be kept to some degree when not on earth and it can be used to plan journeys. thats not to say a different form of time exists on other planets, they could have 27 hour days for example, or even just 2 'halves' one morning half and one evening half or something like that, so adjusting to time would be like adjusting to another language.

time is not just an earthly dimension. our system of 24HR time is an earthly dimension.

you are talking really about time dilation which is only effecting people who travel up to or faster than the speed of light, and only then because the light is reflecting off the object but reaching us more slowly

(like the Doppler effect when you hear a police siren passing)

[miracles]

time is a perception we have based on the cycle of the sun and moon, but off planet time can still exist, because our time is measured as the frequency of a crystal vibration, time could still be kept to some degree when not on earth and it can be used to plan journeys. thats not to say a different form of time exists on other planets, they could have 27 hour days for example, or even just 2 'halves' one morning half and one evening half or something like that, so adjusting to time would be like adjusting to another language.

time is not just an earthly dimension. our system of 24HR time is an earthly dimension.

you are talking really about time dilation which is only effecting people who travel up to or faster than the speed of light, and only then because the light is reflecting off the object but reaching us more slowly

(like the Doppler effect when you hear a police siren passing)

Cool where can I buy a watch with a 27 hour time on the face, for my next intergalactic journey, it'll need to have a vibrating crystal in it too. Any idea how much that'll sting me these days? What $3000.00? Tell em he's dreamin. Any how I dont need to know what time it is up there, Ill just get Huston to keep me informed. Huston I seem to have a problem, that $3000.00 watch disorder2k8 sold me is a fugazi!!

[disorder2k8]

eh?

well first, the 27 hour time ,is the energy grid timing of our planet

secondly, all watches have quartz in them, unless they are digital (which is why in most cases digital clocks always go out of sync and need to be reset every few weeks)

what are you on about?

[abstra]

From a biblical perspective, man has been earth for about 6000 years, the earth could be billions of years old. Who cares?? Scentists (including some bible believing scientists) seem to think there is evidence to suggest the universe it 14.5 billion years old, does that include earth? Dont know really. I know it would take about 58 billion years travelling at the speed of light to reach the end of the known universe. However I think "time" persay is only an earthly dimension.

Why what do you think?

Literature in the Bible may be about 6000 years old. Thats believable because because of its Egyptian origins. Christianity is based on Egyptian Theology.

About 4 Billion years ago the Moon and Earth collided and then settled into stable orbits. Your age of the universe statement is what I have also read but there is a problem. There is no definitive starting point with time. In actual fact time did not exist after Big Bang it is a concept that evolved within time itself. Secondly time can only be appreciated by the living, it is a mental concept.

Man can think about the past and has an appreciation of History. In that we are unique in the animal kingdom. I don't think cows think about yesterday. They just eat grass.

[foobar]

Why do prime numbers appearing in a text make it seem that it wasn't written by humans ? Humans knew what prime numbers were when the Bible was written.

[miracles]

Literature in the Bible may be about 6000 years old. Thats believable because because of its Egyptian origins. Christianity is based on Egyptian Theology.

About 4 Billion years ago the Moon and Earth collided and then settled into stable orbits. Your age of the universe statement is what I have also read but there is a problem. There is no definitive starting point with time. In actual fact time did not exist after Big Bang it is a concept that evolved within time itself. Secondly time can only be appreciated by the living, it is a mental concept.

Man can think about the past and has an appreciation of History. In that we are unique in the animal kingdom. I don't think cows think about yesterday. They just eat grass.

Where is your evidence/source that the origin of the bible is Egyptian and that 4 billion years ago the moon and earth collided? Or are you just testing out material for new sci fi novel?

Frankly mate your prime number biblical figures dont amount to much at all, random numbers assigned to names? Whats your point? I dont see what you are on about? MAy be Im not as intelligent as you think I am.

[disorder2k8]

The bible(Torah) was written in HEBREW

[miracles]

eh?

well first, the 27 hour time ,is the energy grid timing of our planet

secondly, all watches have quartz in them, unless they are digital (which is why in most cases digital clocks always go out of sync and need to be reset every few weeks)

what are you on about?

What are you on about? Was the point I was trying to make in my last post. I will spell it out more clearly in future, obvioulsy the irony went over your head. My appologies.

[miracles]

The bible(Torah) was written in HEBREW

No kidding, and?

[disorder2k8]

No kidding, and?

That was to abstra you fruitcake

You can stop being rude now.

[miracles]

That was to abstra you fruitcake

You can stop being rude now.

Oh beg your pardon.

[abstra]

Why do prime numbers appearing in a text make it seem that it wasn't written by humans ? Humans knew what prime numbers were when the Bible was written.

Because it was only recently that scientists asked the question of how Aliens would communicate with us. The only universal language would be mathamatics. They would use prime numbers because they have a simple unique quality. The receiver would be looking for them despite never having been told to by the transmitter. Both sides would have guessed independantly.

This situation is played out well in the film 'Contact' with Jody Foster.

[abstra]

Where is your evidence/source that the origin of the bible is Egyptian and that 4 billion years ago the moon and earth collided? Or are you just testing out material for new sci fi novel?

Frankly mate your prime number biblical figures dont amount to much at all, random numbers assigned to names? Whats your point? I dont see what you are on about? MAy be Im not as intelligent as you think I am.


Read your science. That period of Earths history has been proven.

The Ten commandments are straight out of the Egyptian book of the Dead. A Virgin Birth of a Sun Deity is an Egyptian concept and its enscribed on the inner walls of the Temple of Luxor.

[miracles]

Read your science. That period of Earths history has been proven.

The Ten commandments are straight out of the Egyptian book of the Dead. A Virgin Birth of a Sun Deity is an Egyptian concept and its enscribed on the inner walls of the Temple of Luxor.

Bollocks. William Cooper has exposed the truth that all the mystery school religions plagurised the bible, not the other way around. Your new age mesiahs like Jordon MAxwell and Tsarion are all illumunati disinformation agents.

[abstra]

Bollocks. William Cooper has exposed the truth that all the mystery school religions plagurised the bible, not the other way around. Your new age mesiahs like Jordon MAxwell and Tsarion are all illumunati disinformation agents.

Right I'm not being addressed like that by a fruitcake.

[rapunzel]

Read your science. That period of Earths history has been proven.

The Ten commandments are straight out of the Egyptian book of the Dead. A Virgin Birth of a Sun Deity is an Egyptian concept and its enscribed on the inner walls of the Temple of Luxor.

While I agree with you that the Ten Commandments have probably been influenced by the Negative Confession in the Book of the Dead the Virgin Birth of a Sun Deity is not an Egyptian concept and is not shown on the wall at Luxor.

What is shown is the conception and birth of Amenhotep III. As all Pharoahs were thought to be the son of a God these scenes establish the legitimacy of his rule by depicting his birth directly from the god Amun. There was no Virgin birth involved nor was there any Virgin birth involved in the birth of Horus.

[abstra]

While I agree with you that the Ten Commandments have probably been influenced by the Negative Confession in the Book of the Dead the Virgin Birth of a Sun Deity is not an Egyptian concept and is not shown on the wall at Luxor.

What is shown is the conception and birth of Amenhotep III. As all Pharoahs were thought to be the son of a God these scenes establish the legitimacy of his rule by depicting his birth directly from the god Amun. There was no Virgin birth involved nor was there any Virgin birth involved in the birth of Horus.

Well Jesus was thought to be the sun of God. Is there then no relationship.

[miracles]

Right I'm not being addressed like that by a fruitcake.

How should I address you? Sir? Your highness?. Sorry I didnt realise you where a member of the ruling elite. Fruitloop?' Yes that'll do.

[miracles]

Because it was only recently that scientists asked the question of how Aliens would communicate with us. The only universal language would be mathamatics. They would use prime numbers because they have a simple unique quality. The receiver would be looking for them despite never having been told to by the transmitter. Both sides would have guessed independantly.

This situation is played out well in the film 'Contact' with Jody Foster.

Right, if its in a hollywood movie its gotta be true. Your not into the "Ra law of one" material are you? Is this your proof?

[disorder2k8]

I have to partially agree, Abstra keeps bringing up details that are in sci-fi works

The Egyptian origins thing was in Zeitgeist
The number communication thing was in Contact


P/s numbers only mean numbers to us, they are earthen symbols we have created for ourselves. If there are aliens they will probably be using their own system, it could be bean counters, sticks, notches in a brick, whatever. It could even be telepathy.

And although the Law of One is very uplifting, it cannot be considered reasonable proof, unless its claims could be observed.

[rapunzel]

Well Jesus was thought to be the sun of God. Is there then no relationship.

Sorry I should have made it clear that I was referring specifically to a Virgin Birth and not a son of God. However the connection between Son and Sun only works in English as far as I am aware

[miracles]

I have to partially agree, Abstra keeps bringing up details that are in sci-fi works

The Egyptian origins thing was in Zeitgeist
The number communication thing was in Contact


P/s numbers only mean numbers to us, they are earthen symbols we have created for ourselves. If there are aliens they will probably be using their own system, it could be bean counters, sticks, notches in a brick, whatever. It could even be telepathy.

And although the Law of One is very uplifting, it cannot be considered reasonable proof, unless its claims could be observed.

Uplifting if you like to be uplifted by the work of demons communing via channeling, I guess. Or ficticious science fiction, written my people with an excellent imagination. One of the two.

[abstra]

Sorry I should have made it clear that I was referring specifically to a Virgin Birth and not a son of God. However the connection between Son and Sun only works in English as far as I am aware

Well I don't know either but most European languages are derivatives of Latin mixed with colloclialism (Local Language) over hundreds of years. The German Language and then Geographically going East is Tutonic based and is completely different

[abstra]

Haven't been here for a long time so the threads a bit cold.

The 3, 5 and 7 in the primes I listed have come from a historical source. Any one could list primes this way and hey presto we have aliens but that is because everyone knows that a mathamatical language based around primes is how they would communicate with us, we know it and so do they. However the source is 400 years old and set in stone - literally. The house was built by a theologian to a plan and the features had those primes built in and the plan stated this -

The three Mary's
The five wounds of the christ
The seven shields of atonement

The building still exists and by deduction so do the plans. So did this theologian know the importance of this prime sequence and it's implications for aliens or did he just know that was historically accurate. I bet it was the latter. These people would burn you at the stake for saying things like this let alone building a house around it.

I'm not giving anyone the theologians name or location of the house. It's my research material and I want to protect it from people that think it would be better gone from public view the same people that wouldn't mind burning me at the stake for heresy.

It does throw light on a statement Jesus made to Pilot, "I'm not of this world", seems he could be telling the truth. Also in Revelations (I believe) he states that man will have other God's and in another part "many false profits" but that we would all come back to him. If he is proven to have been of alien origin everyone will go back to him. They came here in a spaceship (remember the guiding light in the sky) they knew something we don't, we still can't get much further than the moon!

Unrelated. Found this. Powerful stuff.

http://www.bibledbdata.org/onlinebibles/wycliffe_nt/66_013.htm