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hank_scorpio
07-08-2009, 12:52 AM
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5638

Richard Heinberg posted at the Oil Drum with a very interesting essay with full sources about the recession/peakoil/peakeverything. Very interesting.

Ian2day
07-08-2009, 04:18 AM
If anyone thinks things are bad now. Wait for 31st October. Oh silly me I forget, its all a fake world for the boy in the bubble.

motleyhoo
07-08-2009, 06:08 AM
The entire so-called recovery is a complete scam, and the only reason the stock markets are rising is because the loosening of even more regulations since 2007 i allowing the big financial houses to manipulate it with money that is backed by worthless collateral that they are allowed to set the value of themselves with no oversight.

They say home sales have increased for the foruth straight months, but take a closer look. The % of people who own a home has actually fallen to 1982 levels and it is still falling as foreclosures continue to rise.

They say manufacturing and warehouse inventories have fallen, but this is only because of bailout money which is going to runout eventually.

If you made a list of all the flaws in regulation and oversight that allowed the housing bubble to occur, you would find that exactly zero of anything on the list has been fixed. It's actually even worse than that. As soon as the crash happened the big financial houses lobbied to have even more regulations relaxed. They are using this to manipulate the market, suckering more people in so they can short it all and crash the market same as they did in '07. It's a sucker's rally, and all of the common folk buying into will be left with nothing again while Goldman Sachs, et al walk away with billions.

Our entire financial system has always been run by a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths because that is the kind of people with the mentality and cronyistic connections it takes to get into those positions, but it has never been as bad as it is right now, not even back in the 20s when JP Morgan, Prescott Bush, and Sachs tried to steal the entire country.

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hadabusa
07-08-2009, 06:25 AM
there will be no prosperity for decades.
actually, in this system, it will be impossible for honest, lawfully behaving midclass people to get anywhere but the next paycheck.

my mother said its more important not having trouble with law enforcement and be able to sleep calm.

this political correctness bs along with laughable education topped by consumerism/ignorance(caused by complexes) along with random fear of anything opens up a huge oppurtunity for tyrannts.
i cant blame them, if it wasnt them, certainly some other group will take the spot.

then ppl sometimes notice the world ges backwards.
somethings wrong.
they read, browse the www, many run into zeitgeist and aj.
the smarter fellars look further, find its actually the vatican .
then they copy nufffrespects pathetic channel and call themselves patriot,change and niburi.lol.:):D

they say nwo, omfg, somebody runs shit.
yet they still all own a creditcard.

guess what?
theres no new world order to except anytime soon, it was always there.duuuh.
so, these internet patriot,change ppl listen to aj regularly instead of looking further.
so whos supposed2run stuff once the system is overthrown?
nufffrespect?
alex jones?
most subscribed youtube truther?
ron paul?
i like him, but hes a charlatan,a jesuit and old and sick(random tremors).
and, lol, he isnt even interested in potus.

btw, imo restoring the constitution would be insane.
it has failed in so many ways, but foremost, doesnt apply2single citizen, they arent part of it.
its just a paper pretending people are free.
a control tool.
every new statute is there to control , not to give freedom.
people are blatantly blind on such issues, so, gimme the actual govt before these truthers take over.lol.

ron paul is for open borders n apartheid in rsa was ok from his pov,btw.

so, bottomline, as long as ppl dont awake themselves (its pointless forcing truth down some1s throat), aj will remain in business yelling about some uprise till kingdom comes.

id settle to usa if ron paul became potus and kept promises.
nah, not endthefed(haha, the fed knows theyre done.on purpose).
all drugs legalised, for that alone,itbe worth it.
drugs4cheap, and probably leniant statutes overall.


prosperty is dead, politicans avoid that word since decades.
its all about economy growth whilst national deficit grows.
its magic;)

hadabusa
07-08-2009, 06:41 AM
lol, the truthers and patriot strawmen also forget that america is rather into invading nations with joke armies.
a possible fullout revolution would be the biggest mess there ever was.
haha, u.n. would be OBLIGATED to invade, thats no conspiracy, its a treaty.
oh, a revolution would not be a very easy to do thing.

would be ironic if u.n. would have bases, checkpoints within the usa.
the sheeple would get some example how the dozens nations theyve invaded feel.

cant happen?.....
the nyse and all stockmarkets are scams.
indexes indicate nothing.
comeon,madoff had oversight(was even founder of some stockmarket????)over nyse , theres no thing to add.
goldmansuks hasa manipulation software.
and ppl havent brought down wallstreet by force.see?
theyre assured courts will ?punish? the bad guys and theyll get media coverage whilst the hoax goes on.