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snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 12:17 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

The purpose of this thread is to explore the most controversial Book in the annals of Human History.

No one Book has inspired more, both in Positive and Negative ways, Humankind. Surely History denotes the Full Swing of these qualities, from the Spanish Inquisitions to the Paradigm of Yahshua Messiah(jesus)

Indeed, even Mr. David Icke has recognized the merits and qualities and values of the paradigm of Yahshua Messiah as one to be emulated.

No Book in History has been more Loved, Hated, Banned, Burned, Mis-understood, Mis-represented, mis-translated and in general, been more controversial.

It is my desire these above notated qualities may be explored in a civil and erudite manner. For those of you who may have noticed the Thread: Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara, the Book of Yahweh is a Lightning Rod.

All are welcome to come and explore and in this way, we may be able to move Knowledge forward, and some Good(an actual value)may be found.

Mass cut & paste posts will not be welcome, rather provide links and speak from your own experience and understanding.

Myself, my position is: The Book of Yahweh is the Source of all Knowledge, there is no question that cannot be answered, and Light shed in a positive manner on any subject.

Do stop by, and bring more Light than Heat, until then,

My Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Consider this: The Book of Yahweh is a large Book, even the book with just the Old Testament is indeed substantial, add the New Testament and it becomes rather daunting.

Yet it may be viewed as Six Essential Elements, and thus becomes more readily accessible.

#1. Father Yahweh, the Creator Being who is the Causal Force of this Universe and all Matter and Life within. The 'Force' of inspiration for the entire Book.

#2. The Torah, a Codex of Law that contains 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes, which apply to all Human activity. Yahweh created these Laws and Lives by these Laws Himself. The Kingdom of Heaven is Governed by these Laws. The purpose of these Laws are to develop a
robust moral character. Throughout scripture, 'sin' is defined as transgression of the Law.
'Righteousness' is defined as obedience to the Law.

#3. The Malakim(messengers of Yahweh) a 'Race','Species' of Beings created by Yahweh before Humans.

#4. The Prophets & Prophecies which establish Timelines and Events

#5. Yahshua Messiah, the exemplar of Father Yahwehs Plan concerning Humankind and their relation to the Codex of Law, the Torah. He is the personification of a fully developed Human Utilising 100% of His Brain/Mind Capacity, due to His perfect obedience to the Codex of Law. He was 'Trusted' by Father Yahweh not to bring harm to Himself or others. At this time we are partially created beings with deliberate restraint of our Brain/Mind Utility. Thus all the problems.

#6. The Scriptures, these are the 'Vehicle' by which all instruction and lessons are delivered, containing the above notated 5 essential Elements.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

The 'Beginning of the Beginning' The Scope of the Book of Yahweh is both Interdimensional and Intergalactic.

Where did Yahweh come from? I dunno. Scripture tells us He always was, beyond the bounds of Human Time, in another Plane beyond Human perception(note to the anti-Yahwists:I am aware of the Kabbalistic suppositions, they are conjecture)

There are Three Heavens noted in the Book. The First Heaven is the Earths Atmosphere, domain of clouds, birds wind and weather and oxygen, the second Heaven is the Universe we perceive, domain of Stars, Planets and the whole panopoly of wonderous mysteries. The Third Heaven is not perceptable to Humankind at this time, another 'Plane' or 'Dimension'.This is Yahwehs Kingdom of Heaven. It is from this position the story begins.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Now would be a good time to explore some aspects of this Being,Yahweh.

The 'Name' Yahweh is derived from the Hebrew letters Yod Heh Wo Heh, known as the Tetra(4)-Grammaton, this was derived from a Northern Caananite Tri(3)-Grammaton. The difference is a grammatical change of possesion.

Tri-Grammaton-"He is what causes all to come into creation" to
Tetra-Grammaton-"I am what causes all to come into creation"

Not surprisingly wars and fires break out over these definitions, the reader may find numerous similiar,yet not exactly alike, nontheless, the Tetra-Grammaton is pronounced Yahweh.

Those familiar with Hebrew know the language consists of only consonants,
the scribes add small marks to indicate vowels. These are known as Dia-Critical Vowel Marks, and is a root source of corruption of texts.

Example, by altering vowel marks, a scribe changes Yahwehs Name to Adonai(lord,baal), El(god,mighty one),Jehova, even El-ohim(plural, gods,many gods)

This is how they removed Yahwehs Name from the texts and thus from the peoples knowledge, most people never know the Name of the Creator Being who inspired this Book.

It is said His Name was removed more than 5,000 times from the scriptures,Hmmmmmm!

I ask you, the members of this board, who would like their name removed from their work and all credit given to another? This is exactly what has occured.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 01:53 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Yahweh and the Malakim are Beings with Interdimensional and Intergalactic capabilities.

Yahweh, as are, Human beings, Anthropomorphological in form. Arms, legs, head upon a neck, eyes, nose, mouth. He is also a Male.

We, Humans are created in His image to become in His likeness, keepers of His Codex of Laws. All Humans are being trained whether they realise it or not, by exercising their own judgement and freewill and incurring consequences. Many humans suffer due to other humans exercising their freedom and causing harm to others.

The character of Yahweh is vividly described throughout the entire Book, so there can be no doubt as to His Values and Judgements and Discernment.
Indeed the Book of Yahweh declares that there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.

Those who find the reading of the Torah found in the first five Books, to be 'dry' or 'disturbing',may wish to read Psalms and Solomons Proverbs, the Law is presented in an artistic way as Prose and Poetry. These two Books also illuminate much of Father Yahwehs Character and details of His Plan.

The Plan of Yahweh is to create a 'Family' of Humans with proper Moral Character(purpose of the Codex of the Law), to inherit and populate the Universe in 'Supra-Anthropomorphological form, that will have 100% use of their Brain/Mind Capacity, and be impervious to illness and other maladies.

notaslave
11-08-2007, 02:54 PM
The Plan of Yahweh is to create a 'Family' of Humans with proper Moral Character(purpose of the Codex of the Law), to inherit and populate the Universe in 'Supra-Anthropomorphological form, that will have 100% use of their Brain/Mind Capacity, and be impervious to illness and other maladies.

What is to happen to those of us who arent considered "of proper Moral Character"?

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 03:17 PM
Peace & Greetings notaslave!:

An excellent question. All answers are according to the Book of Yahweh and do not consider any other doctrines. I have not used the much used word "truth" lo, these many posts. Rather, 'accurate' or 'scholarly' as regards to the Book of Yahweh.

The Book of Yahweh Doctrine is: When one dies they sleep until one of two ressurections. It is the second ressurection 1,000 years after the first, that the bulk of Humanity who ever lived and not received proper instruction of Yahwehs Doctrine, 99.something%, they will arise, at that time they will receive approximately 100 years of correct, uncorrupted training in Father Yahwehs Doctrine.

At that time you will be judged.So ultimately the choice will be yours, and yours alone as to whether you wish to get with His program.Should you decide you do not like it,Yahweh will extinguish your soul. Nothing Personal.

This brings up two good points or three or more.

Yahweh tells us to Fear no man as they may only kill your body, He says, fear Him, as only He can destroy both body and soul. Yahweh declares He owns all souls, He created them.

There is no Hell or Limbo in the actual text. There is Outter Darkness, pit of Fire,stuff like that. There are certainly some who will be punished. The very worst of Humanity.

Yahweh is an Ironfist in a Velvet Glove and there will be much mercy except for those who harm children and the weak and defensless,He and His Son, Yahshua despise bullies. Their ass is grass.

Remember there will be a substantial period of proper training, you are currently deciding issues utilising less than 40% of your mental capacity.Keep that in Mind(pun intended).

Also bear in mind I am not providing Empirical 'Proof' as to whether this Book is 'True". The 'Endorsement' of Yahshua (jesus) Messiah, an actual figure(encyclopedia Judaica, not recognised as Messiah, yet an actual character), lends much credence to the 'Story' This is what He Taught.
He personified the Torah in behaviour.

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

To continue: Before the Creation of this Universe, from the position of the Third Heaven, Kingdom of Yahweh.

It is from this position Yahweh creates the Universe, In an earlier post in another thread I ERRED in a sequential matter, to wit:the proper Sequence:-Yahweh-Kingdom of Heaven-Malakim-Universe-Humans,my prior ERROR was Universe-Malakim. My bad! Of course, being a mortal human, I may have been correct and mistakenly think I erred. It's a tuffy, and insights from others concerning this aspect of the Book of Yahweh may help. No Talmudic or Kabbalistic theories will be entertained, only scripture.

The Malakim(see post 2) are Yahwehs workers and help control the functioning of the Universe, this I call, Desmodromic Pandemonium(positively controlled chaos).

Surely, no-one on this Board is not awestruck by the majesty and complexity and workings(what little we know of this subject)of the Universe. It is the Malakim that keep the movements of Heavenly Bodies under some contol.

Consider: Earth is considered to be in a 'Backwater" type location, a bit remote for the purpose of allowing Father Yahwehs Plan to proceed.
Contrary to Fundamentalists and Evangelical Doctrines, we can be sure the Earth has been in existence much, much longer than 6,000 years. There was much Life on Earth long before Humans, made their appearance.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Current Status: Father Yahweh, Kingdom of Heaven, Malakim and the Universe are in Play. Planet Earth exists.

At some 'time' between then and the Creation of Adam & Eve, A Nexus of Time Moment, a rebellion occurs amongst the ranks of the Malakim, see 'What is Satanism, exactly' thread in the Satanist department.

Everything in the Book of Yahweh from Bereshith(genesis) to Revelation concerns the Torah. This is a thread that runs throughout the entire Book and is a 'Baseline', 'Benchmark' which all doctrine and text must be measured by.

So, Father Yahweh has composed the Torah, and the Kingdom of Heaven and the Malakim and other beings(Cherubim) are all Governed by the Torah.
They do not have 'Freewill' in this matter. Father Yahweh Himself lives and abides according to the Torah. This is the 'Word' of Yahweh.

Well amongst some of the Malakim, discontent arose, they wanted to perhaps do things their way, to be 'Free' to make their own decisions of 'right' and 'wrong' and let the 'chips fall where they may'.They did not like Yahweh being the 'Boss' of them. So a primary 'Satan'(accuser,opponent,opposition) arose as leader of the Rebellion. This 'Satan' convinced 1/3 of the Malakim to join the rebellion, and they told Father Yahweh, from henceforth they would do as they saw fit, exercising their own 'Freewill'.

Thus becoming the 'Fallen Angels*'(please note 'el' suffix) who still have Intergalactic and Interdimensional Powers. This is all long before Humans appeared on Earth.

Summation:2/3 of the Malakim remain loyal to Father Yahweh and uphold and obey His Laws, 1/3 of the Malakim rebelled to exercise 'Freewill'.

notaslave
11-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Thankyou for your interesting reply.

Certainly more interesting that I thought it would be and less divisive than I assumed it would be.

As I have been lied to most of my life, you will forgive me if I dont rush to read his bible.

I will know my maker when I meet it again of that I have no doubt.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 05:11 PM
Peace & Greetings notaslave:

Absolutely correct. Father Yahweh is well aware of the corrupt teachers and texts and will not hold an individual accountable for information they never received. This does not count as teaching since I am not a 'Preacher Man' or 'Teacher', rather, I am a 'Janitor' cleaning up some mis-conceptions.

The greatest caveat was issued by Yahshua Messiah who advocates 'suicide' to any-one who would harm a child or weak and defenseless person. This is a 'Heady' concept, as the 'Nature' of Yahshua Messiah is very forgiving.

I do not dis-agree with Him.

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 06:03 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

BERESHITH: In the Beginning(genesis)

Chapter !: v1-5

1. In the beginning Yahweh created the Heavens and the Earth.

2. Now the Earth 'became' without form and empty; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Yahweh was hovering over the face of the waters.

3. And Yahweh said: Let there be light, and there was light.

4. And Yahweh saw the light, that it was beneficial; and Yahweh divided between the light and between the darkness.

5. And Yahweh called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and THEN the morning were the First Day.

There are profound understandings in these few verses.

According to:A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon of the Old Testament by Julian Furst, page 1460 ,'without form and empty'-can be defined as: Chaos,a vain worthless thing,full of godworship(the worship of elohim)

According to:A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon of the Old Testament by Julian Furst,page 501:'Darkness was upon the face of the deep' defines as 'to be led astray because of false doctrine'

Strongs Exhaustive Concordance: Darkness as word#2822 choshek:misery,destuction,death,ignorance,sorrow,w ickedness.

Verse 4 has commentary by the great Biblical scholar, RASHI(acronym):
Yahweh saw that the Light was righteous, and that the wicked were therefore unworthy of using it. So Yahweh therefore set the light apart, reserving it for the righteous. Isayah 8:20 Mattithyah(matthew)13:10-17

Verse 5: Notice the sequence of evening then the morning. Yahwehs day begins in the Evening, which is why to this day the Sabbath begins @sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. This is important for many subsequent verses.

This is all for now. Anyone desiring to read the entire first page of the Book of Yahweh as produced by the House of Yahweh may view it at yahweh.com

I am not a member of this group, but I admire their moral character and hardwork. I have 12 versions of the Bible and many other books pertinent to this subject.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 06:36 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

My next post upon my return will be an examination of 'The Adam & Eve Event, A Nexus of Time Moment'.

Until then, Farewell and Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kblood
11-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Just to spam a bit:

WAASSSUUPP? You know, just having a bud, oh well thats cool, yea like whatever :)

Shamelessly bumping the thread so it stays up :)

grackle
11-08-2007, 09:57 PM
Yahweh, as are, Human beings, Anthropomorphological in form. Arms, legs, head upon a neck, eyes, nose, mouth. He is also a Male.

.There's no way that Yahwaeh is no way a human. Some say pluralistically that YahWeh are a general race of the supreme gods.

snoopsnuffleopagus
11-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Peace & Greetings grackle:

No assertion has been made Yahweh is human. Consider this.Immortal, Intergalactic & Interdimensional capabilities. He is One,He is unique in the Universe,there is none like Him, He stands in judgement in the council of the gods(Yahweh is not a god)(J)ah source. I consider Him, to use a label, as a Super-being,it is our form that is like Him,obedience to the Torah is His Character.

Humans are created in His image(form). The archon theory is kabbalistic and from post BCE.

Remember, please. No Talmudic or Kabbalistic or Gnostic theories will be entertained. Torah & scripture only.

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus.

PS. Restraints of time prevent citations of verse at this time.When I return
I shall address this further.

fccool
12-08-2007, 06:08 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Myself, my position is: The Book of Yahweh is the Source of all Knowledge, there is no question that cannot be answered, and Light shed in a positive manner on any subject.

My Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Please answer the following questions for me and back it up from this mysterious bool

Question #1: What is the nature of the reality... space and time?
Question #2: How does Gravity work :)?
Question #3: How do you know that what this book is saying is true. Is there any evidence of it besides the circular refferences back to the book of Yahweh? (don't use book of Yahweh to answer this one)

Just questions.

kblood
12-08-2007, 09:15 AM
Please answer the following questions for me and back it up from this mysterious bool

Question #1: What is the nature of the reality... space and time?
Question #2: How does Gravity work :)?
Question #3: How do you know that what this book is saying is true. Is there any evidence of it besides the circular refferences back to the book of Yahweh? (don't use book of Yahweh to answer this one)

Just questions.

Being so annoyingly allknowing, I guess I will answer that what as well:

1: There should be threads about this in the matrix forum. It is more complex than space and time alone, since we have realities within realities, and it all comes down to how the individual views realitity.
2: I think Newton got a good answer for that one, but his answer is based on physiques... I think that is how it is written anyway.
3: This one I cant answer at all...

Now for a question of my own:
In what time was this book of Yaweh written? Just earliest estimated date if there isnt any exact date on it. I know I could look this up quite easily, but I think it would a good fact to go with the thread, so it can be compared to other books, and their views...

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 12:56 PM
Peace & Greetings fccool!:

#1. Reality is for those who cannot handle Drugs!..smiley emoticon..

Space & Time are measurements devised by humans to measure our position on various 'Planes'. For humans space is considered as 'Spatial Distance'. Time may also be considered this but upon a invisible 'Plane'

Benchmarks and Baselines are established through consensus of learned thinkers, example: the three Cubits,(long,short, medium)establishing lenths and then applied as neccessary. Time likewise is established by observation of repeating phenomanah(i cannot spell)The Setting and Rising of the sun, the appearances of the moon in its different phases, movements of other heavenly bodies. The movie the 'Grand Complication' is a wonderful exploration of design and invention of early chronographs.

I agree with kblood(4:20)smiley emoticon w/thumbs up! More erudite posters such as "Them" or "Edit" could knock those particular queries out of the Park.

My position on 'is this Book True' is bottom of post #7 page 1. As to the depth and breadth of knowledge contained within, I am constantly 'stunned' by the brilliance of the thoughts put forth by men and woman from ancient times.

Example: Moshe(moses)Presenting the Laws of Yahweh to the Yahdaim(people of Yahweh) on the dissertation of sexual mores laws, he informs as to how indiscrimanate sexual activities breed dis-ease, and the 'cooties' will actually travel to the Brain/Mind Complex through the bloodstream and interfere with ones thought processes creating confused thinking, this is examining STDs and their ramifications 4,000 years ago.
The great Sage also informs us, without robust Moral Character, everyone doing what they want, would lead to the destuction of Planet Earth through Nuclear Warfare. HELLO!!! What is the cause of War, but the lust(unlawful desire) in man. Coveting(unlawful desire is the causal force of most of our problems.

As you know discernment is neccessary is the rule of the day. we must prove to our own minds, Father Yahweh does not accept 'Blind Faith' . Whether the events in the Book historicaly occured, I wasn't there. For me, all scripture is a 'Vehicle' to deliver profound thought provoking concepts.

The Book of Iyyob(persecuted)job, contains astonishing information on the Nature and Movements of Heavenly Bodies. And much more.One of the Laws state: Make safe the work place. This is the foundation of all Occupational Safety and Health Administrations. 4,000 years ago.

How does Gravity work? Trick question Huh? pullin' Snoops Trunk huh?

Answer: The Earth sucks. hehehehehe...Gravity is......'Edit' & 'Them' can nail this. My understanding is it deals with Mass and Compositions of objects, Stellar, planetary and other. Shrug.Also rotational forces.

fccool. feel free to ask any question on any subject and I shall produce an answer from the Book of Yahweh. You will not find a verse on the Light Shift qualities of the Hue and colour of vermillion, but it would provide a perspective on a different
aspect.

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 01:13 PM
Peace & Greetings be upon you kblood!:

4:20

The answer to your query is: The oldest known complete text of the Pentateuch(first five books)Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Dates to approximately 700-800 BCE. Fragmented copies of various Books predate that.This is the text known as the J(ah)-Text.
Subsequent manuscripts are E(lohist), a corruption a hundred to hundredfifty years later, the P(riestly) and The D(euteronomic) texts.
Though no complete manuscripts exist, researchers agree the 'New Testament was also written in Hebrew, Fragments, Forced Logic and Deductive reasoning support this theory.

evilbible.com has information it was contrived in Bayonne New Jersey circa 1832 ce by a character named 'Johnny Shoes' and using Sith mind shenanigans has been used to dupe mankind.

All that is needed to know about the Book of Yahweh is it is for instuction of development of Robust Moral Character. The Torah is the Thread that runs from Genesis, 'The Tree of Life'(Torah) to Revelation, "see what disobedience to the 'Tree of Life'(Torah) has wrought!
Lo, these many years,humankind has relied upon their own reckoning, today we reap that harvest:Warfare,Dis-ease,Confusion, and so forth. The Book of Yahweh has been discredited by Chavs, who claimed they were agents of 'god',Priests,Kings,Politicians. The average person, without clear understanding of Father Yahwehs message are naturally dismayed.

Their Day of Reckoning will come as surely as ours, and they will be held to a greater degree of accountability. Example: GWB: "god told me to strike osama, so I did, then he said to me strike saddam, so I did" Had GWB applied a 'quality control' verse to this 'Spirit' that was instucting him. The Test for 'Spirits',"If they speak not to the Laws and Prophecies, they are not of Yahweh". Apply this 'Test' to Yahshua Messiah and one sees He fulfilled this masterfully. There are many other such 'Quality Control" verses so that we may not be deceived by false teachers and prophets and 'Spirits'.

As Moshe declared: Father Yahweh sets before you this day Blessings or Curses, Life or Death. The choice is ours.

Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
12-08-2007, 01:50 PM
Hi Snoop,

I have a question, though I know you said you would not entertain the gnostic gospel etc, but Yewah sounds alot like the male energy whom was jealous of sophia, the goddess energy, because she stayed with humanity to teach wisdom and unconditional love, the male god/energy wanted to control humanity through male energy and fear upon the earth so supressed sophia's energy, by supressing females upon the planet...

Is this the same being you refer to?

Sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick here, but I'm intersted in this subject!!:p

Best wishes to you.

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 02:03 PM
This makes interesting reading:

http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/snbBookOfYahweh.htm

Quote:

'What else can be said of The Book of Yahweh? It can only be seen, by anyone not under the control of Yisrayl Hawkins, as a perversion of the real Scriptures. It is a terrible attempt to satisfy the ego of one man.

One advertisement for BOY encourages its readers: “ORDER your COPY of this truly marvelous Translation, and BEGIN to enjoy the WORD OF YAHWEH as He inspired it to be written.” It is indeed to be viewed as a marvel, though not in the way the ad intended.

Other Sacred Name Movement leaders are right to turn away from The Book of Yahweh in disgust. It brings shame on its revisers, on its sponsoring organization, on the Sacred Name Movement generally, on the individual assemblies in particular, on the leaders of the movement, and even on the Creator whom it purports to honor. It is by no means an accurate version of the Scriptures. The word sacred cannot be connected with it. BOY redefines the word reproach.

Sacred name bibles are generally of little or no value to anyone seeking truth. The Book of Yahweh is the absolute worst of the lot. For all that, The Book of Yahweh is but the culmination of the process started by earlier sacred name bible revisers when they usurped a spiritual authority higher than the Scriptures. They sowed the wind, Hawkins has brought them the whirlwind.'

fccool
12-08-2007, 02:27 PM
Yuo still have not answered #3. How different are you to believe that book of Yahweh is the truth from all of other similar cult movements out there that feed on misinterpriting the actual meaning of words. You know JWs... By interpreting a couple words differently, all of a sudden you get a "truth" movement that prohibits its memeber to live if they want to in case of serious emmergency.
Then you get Joseph Smith, who literaly pulled the Book of Morman out of the hat.
And who can forget Mohammed (peace be unto him :)), who recited the entire Quran because he could not write.

All of these are concidered to be the corrected version of the "corrupted" originals. So on what bases do you know the "truth" other than what you read for the book of Yahweh? Seems like a circular reasoning to me. I.e. The book Of Yahweh says that he exists. Naturally, I don't give a damn if somebody calls me Andrey, or Andrew... I would understand it to be the same thing. There's not deep need to call Moses , Moshe... or any other proper pronunciation if you don't know Hebrew. So what's the point? Even if you learn it, you still back to square 1 explaining how do I know what I believe is truth and how can I prove it outside of this book?

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 02:28 PM
Peace & Greetings lydia78!:

Good question! (Yewah?) I, personally, am dispassionate about genders as regards to characters in the Book of Yahweh, it is all Algebra and the summation is to be non-personal. You do your monthly budget and what it adds up to is what it adds up to.Nothing personal.

First and Foremost Yahweh is not a god.Prior posts I cover this Fully.
Many are those who think the Book is chauvinistic, I would ask them to consider this. The womans role is exalted and very special. They conceive and gestate and bear and deliver Life, than their role is to nurture and instruct the children(particularly the Laws of the Torah, this is a commandment to teach the children these laws, they are not 'the jewish laws' they are Father Yahwehs Laws).

The Book of Yahweh primarily deals with life as Anthropomorphological(humans) and Supra-Anthropomorpological,(see above postings as to these qualities)

Yahweh is not an amorpheous gasbag or a speck of stardust with a grain of cosmic consciousness. There is a Plan at play here(see above post about inhabiting the Universe)

As you, yourself noted, the doctrines you relate are post 700 BCE,
Sophia(wisdom) is not relevant to Yahweh and His Plan, Solomons Proverbs inform us: Fear of Yahweh is the beginning of Wisdom. If you want your eyes to 'Bug Out", check out the thread, 'What is Satanism, exactly?', there is a 'Queen of Heaven' named Hillel.

Read Yechetzqyah(may Yahweh strengthen,ezekiel) Chapter 28:1-40
The way the math adds up discombobulates many preconceived notions.

Like an Athlete, I, myself, am trained to keep my 'Eye on the Ball', the Torah.

You should perhaps start a thread on Sophia and perhaps some information will arise. Anything post 90 CE, and even the 'Dead Sea Scrolls, I approach 'warily'.

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 03:00 PM
Peace & Greetings:Fullfathomfive:

I have been expecting you! You fail to inform the readers that sacred Name outfit tried to Copywrite the name Yahweh so no one else could use it without their permission and payment to them. They failed at this, they also failed in a lawsuit against the House of Yahweh because civil courts found their suit meritless. So who is surprised they would be antagonistic to the House of Yahweh, also your other sources, Talmudic Elohists(which you probably do not even understand that) who hate Yahshua, are not the most impartial critics. Like I told you before Asshole, 50$ american is a small gamble, What about RASHIs margin notes(worth the price of the book themselves), Ah, but you know nothing of RASHI do you. Or the FACT, the House of Yahweh presents evidence from dozens of VETTED sources such as Lexicons, Encyclopedias, Historical Books, never been sued by any publishers because the material they present is used in proper context. Rather than seeing with your own eyes, your 'Proxy(i am the unwitting tool of others)' agents have used you as their 'Bitch'. Your 'Beef' should be with them.

You are so concerned people do not learn to discern between Yahweh and gods, yet you offer no alternative information. Your postings in the 'Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara' thread provided sufficient evidence for me to deem you a Lying Asshole, I now add the qualifier 'Chickenshit', so since you do not provide alternative doctrines, even your own, I consider you to be a 'Lying Chickenshit Asshole'. This is scientificly based upon evidence you provide rather than an emotional response as you are merely a figment of the cyberverse.

Start a thread and share your core beliefs, your own or others, or do you just do whatever comes to mind at the moment, share with us your wisdom. Do you have a 'Sack' robust enough to do that, I say not.

2 fccool: #3:I have not once used the words, 'True,Truth' once in all my posts, besides the apparent 'Wisdom' contained in scripture, the 'Endorsement' of Yahshua(Yahweh is Salvation), an actual, historical figure(all of this I posted previously)lends great Merit to the Book of Yahweh. And has swayed my own personal Judgement as to be a paradigm to emulate.Yahshua 'Endorses' the 'Old Testament"

Fullfathomfive: The last verse of your last ditty in the Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread(in general,third page) is a 'Classic example of 'Projection', one finger pointing at me, three fingers pointing right back at your self.

Now, 'Take it on the arches' you Lying,Chickenshit Asshole Hump.
Every argument you have made is meritless. All my posts I have told the readers not to take anything at 'Blind Faith' but 'Prove' to themselves,as instructed in scripture, through their own 'Due Diligence' using many resources. What part of this don't you understand?

And deeming you a 'Lying Chickenshit Asshole' is Mathematical, not emotional, even the Blind know Bullshit when they smell it, and has nothing to do with my Moral Character. I am not a 'Doormat' for the 'I hate Yahweh & the Bible Brigade'

Toodle-oo Sally!: Snoopsnuffleopagus (Iron Fist-Velvet Glove)

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 03:13 PM
Wow, showing your true colours again.

The Book of Yahweh is riddled with inacuracies, perhaps why you deleted reference to yahweh.com from one of your posts in another thread.

It doesn't take long to strip away your sanctomonius veneer does it?

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 03:22 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive,

never deleted reference to yahweh.com once, another LIE.
Get help, it is never too late

Later Asshole.

My Character is wonderful, as I told you in the Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread(general page three), this is discernment, well within my rights to rebuke your Bullshit, looking forward to your thread, even if you do not have a 'Sack' robust enough to post your own views of life, you can start a 'I Hate the House of Yahweh' thread, you cannot 'hurt' them, only yourself.

lydia78
12-08-2007, 03:27 PM
And there we have it!! No amount of enlightened material or concept nor awakened mind can save you from the bitch slap!!!:D

Chill my friends, no need for animosity!!:o

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Peace & Greetings lydia78:

fullfathomfive is a classic case of mis-direction: 'Nothing to see here folks, move along' Even if I were to use a King James or Anchor or Cambridge Bible, which are amongst the dozen version I own,he would be attacking, he declares the Book of Yahweh from the House of Yahweh riddled with inaccuracies, without personally studying the matter, using non-impartial sources to form his thoughts and actions. yet it is in use at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

He declares the proper names are meritless, this is Bull. A greater understanding comes with use of proper names.

Are there inaccuracies, of course! not to the extant he makes. Check his critique in Krishna thread. Meritless, laughable.

All my posts point to the Torah as a codex of Law that develops character, a superior codex than those inspired by Mortal men, in New York we have 2,000,000 pages of laws. They are not so effective.

f3 has not done his own comparison of literatures concerning scripture and wages 'Proxy(i am their bitch)' arguments.

Am I Yahshua Messiah, no! Am I a perfect human,no!
But morality is important for ones health and wellbeing, and rest assured, I am more part of the solution than the problem.

All my dealings with other humans in Business and personal matters, are forthright and above board, no guile, no cunning, Honest and fair.

f3 merely wants to 'Piss in my cornflakes' and I wii not allow him to.

His behaviour is shameful.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 04:19 PM
Snoopsnuffleopagus (Iron Fist-Velvet Glove)
The ego has landed.

fullfathomfive is a classic case of mis-direction: 'Nothing to see here folks, move along' Even if I were to use a King James or Anchor or Cambridge Bible, which are amongst the dozen version I own,he would be attacking, he declares the Book of Yahweh from the House of Yahweh riddled with inaccuracies, without personally studying the matter, using non-impartial sources to form his thoughts and actions. yet it is in use at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

'I commend you on your excellent scholarship.'
—Dr. Asher S. Kaufman
Professor, Hebrew University, Jerusalem.

Apparently this qualifies as 'use'.

He declares the proper names are meritless

?

Am I Yahshua Messiah, no! Am I a perfect human,no!
This makes sense. Though no-one claimed you were in the first place.

His behaviour is shameful.

Thanks for the compliment.



Lydia78:

Chill my friends, no need for animosity!!

The best thing I've heard all day. I feel humbled.

lydia78
12-08-2007, 04:33 PM
Don't forget the smiley face at the end of it!! It's all about the smiley face!!:D;):p:)

Your pic btw? If so love the hair!!;)

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 04:45 PM
Peace & Greetings f3(really, I mean it I really do):

If I were to point out you are 'dim-witted' that does not mean I do not 'Love' you, rather it is an observation, so that you, yourself can correct your behaviour. Of all the 'Trolls' i have encountered in 'Forumland' you are the 'Lamest'

Considering the compliment Proffessor Kaufman paid to the House of Yahweh, for their scholarship, It would indicate he would find it appropriate to share with his students. Thus usage is not a big reach. Note also he did not just say "I commend you for your scholarship" he added the 'qualifier' 'excellent'. I thank you for having 'Sack' enough to share that compliment with the readers as it puts to rest most of your 'Proxy' arguments considering this particular Translation.

The attack of Zondervan Publishers 'Interlinear Bible of the Old Testament', as 'Evangelical' still mystifies me. Zondervans is not affliated with the House of Yahweh, a distinct and separate publishing house, the text is one
line of Hebrew and one line of english, based on the J-Text. I honestly do not see the connection to 'Evangelism', do enlighten me and the readers.

The 'proper names are meritless' was from your 'Proxy' argument post from the Sacred names outfit, it was you that brought it to the Table.

IronFist-Velvetglove=Reality.......I am a 'Nice Guy' but I am nobodies 'Doormat'.

What about all your Lies(notated in Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread, general page 3)?

Please start a thread and share with the Board your 'enlightened Wisdom'

With Much Love(really): Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 04:48 PM
No, it's a picture of Damien 'Jr Gong' Marley, son of Bob.

I look more like my Irish mother (olive eyes). Plus I'm better looking than Jr Gong, plus my locks flow more. Then I would say that :D

lydia78
12-08-2007, 04:50 PM
Thought it looked like marley but wasn't sure.....cool, I have the ol' celt blood too, we def have better hair than most!!!:D

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Peace & Greetings f3(really, I mean it I really do):

If I were to point out you are 'dim-witted' that does not mean I do not 'Love' you, rather it is an observation, so that you, yourself can correct your behaviour. Of all the 'Trolls' i have encountered in 'Forumland' you are the 'Lamest'

Considering the compliment Proffessor Kaufman paid to the House of Yahweh, for their scholarship, It would indicate he would find it appropriate to share with his students. Thus usage is not a big reach. Note also he did not just say "I commend you for your scholarship" he added the 'qualifier' 'excellent'. I thank you for having 'Sack' enough to share that compliment with the readers as it puts to rest most of your 'Proxy' arguments considering this particular Translation.

The attack of Zondervan Publishers 'Interlinear Bible of the Old Testament', as 'Evangelical' still mystifies me. Zondervans is not affliated with the House of Yahweh, a distinct and separate publishing house, the text is one
line of Hebrew and one line of english, based on the J-Text. I honestly do not see the connection to 'Evangelism', do enlighten me and the readers.

The 'proper names are meritless' was from your 'Proxy' argument post from the Sacred names outfit, it was you that brought it to the Table.

IronFist-Velvetglove=Reality.......I am a 'Nice Guy' but I am nobodies 'Doormat'.

What about all your Lies(notated in Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread, general page 3)?

Please start a thread and share with the Board your 'enlightened Wisdom'

With Much Love(really): Snoopsnuffleopagus

Love and respect too. We agree to disagree?

I'm sure you are a nice guy. Hopefully I am too.

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 05:00 PM
we def have better hair than most!!!:D

True, though my 37 years have put a certain gray slant on things:D

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive:

It's all 'Good', for even in the 'Heat of Argument' thoughts will come forth that may otherwise have remained dormant and unsaid.This is a well known 'Device' to some 'investigators'.

Besides 12 versions of the Book of Yahweh(bible),kjv, anchor,zondervans,cambridge etc,)I have a library of Comparative religious studies, traveled to Mexico to study Toltec Shamanism(ah, youth), love the Tao Tse Ching, Khalil Ghibran,Bhuddism.Read the 'Eckankar' books,jordan maxwell,etc.

What I 'Love' about the Torah is its specificity as to everyday life and occurences, as 'Endorsed' by Yahshua Messiah, who is an example of the merit of this Codex. 613 Laws and the scriptures is the complete 'Course', no Talmud, No Kabbala, I remain focused on the 'core'.

I do not attack other theologies, I believe at this time, all are 'Free' to seek for themselves whatever they feel is right for them.In my appearences in other threads, my intent has been to shed light on mis-understandings, providing alternative scripture and interpretation.

Already in this thread I have put forth core elements of Father Yahwehs Plan for humanity and the 'whys and wherefors', I, personally find it endlessly fascinating, and feel the study of Yahwehs doctrine have provided me with much clarity as to the 'State of Affairs' today.The 'Causal Factors'

With much Love and Kind Regards(swear to Yahweh): Snoopsnuffleopagus

PS. Still would love to hear your core beliefs

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 05:39 PM
My core beliefs:

See the good in everyone.

God is improbable, though not impossible.

Say nothing about anyone you would not be prepared to say to their face.

Nothing is free from ridicule. A god of laughter would be perfect.

Love your friends & family.

Be prepared to lay down your life for what you believe. Don't acquiesce or lose your courage.

Question everything. Including 2+2=4.


These are just a few. I don't know myself well enough. Obviously I stray from these but I recognise my limitations (sometimes).

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 06:12 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive!:

Bravo! and thankyou, Okay : qualifier: Chickenshit: DELETE,(you provided your beliefs), pronoun: ASSHOLE: DELETE(misguided exuberance), pronoun: LIAR: DELETE (not yours, you were the vehicle of less than Honourable sources)

It's a big world out there with lots of treachery and deceit and one must be wary of much. When one finds thoughts they admire and trust, they must hold them close. Beware of those posing as sheep, for inwards they are Ravening wolves(paraphrase Yahshua,& Yahweh)

A short story to illustrate the dangers of Falsehoods: (folklore)

There was a small town and just outside of that town lived a humble and reclusive person, did no harm to no one and was very quiet.

One of the towns rascals began to tell 'tales' of this person, 'tales' that were not true. Time went by and one day the rascal got to actually meet this quiet and reclusive person and found that this person was actually quite nice and actually learned some good thoughts.

The rascal went home and contemplated upon this, and the next day he went to the reclusive person and confessed he had borne false tales about this person. He said he was sorry and inquired what he could do to make amends for his lapse of judgement. The recluse accepted his heartfelt apology and thought for a moment.

The recluse than suggested to the not so rascally anymore rascal, that he take a feather pillow to the top of a nearby mount and rip it open and let the winds carry the feathers away, and when done with that, report back.

The not so rascally rascal thought, hmmm, thats not so tough to make things right, so he ran home, took his sisters pillow and went to the mount, ripped it open and let the winds carry the feathers away, feeling satisfied he dashed to the recluses abode and declared he had accomplished the task,"every thing cool now" he inquired, the recluse replied,"almost, now go gather all the feathers"

Let us all proceed cautiously and be heedful of the ramifications of our actions.

Very Kind Regards!!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Oh Snoop, I'm sure if we ever met in real life we would be friends. Not sure who the rascal is though :D.

I have endless 'discussions' with my father-in-law regarding religion and we still love each other. I'd respect him less if he kept his mouth shut.

Would love to hear what your core beliefs are. I'm all lexiconed out :D.

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive!:

To Love Father Yahweh with all my heart, mind, and might and to Love my neighbor(for these two commandments encompass the whole of the Law, 613 laws, judgements and statutes.)
Yahshua Messiah

I just noticed the krishna thread is perculating and noticed the verse you provided. Use of the word 'Elohim (many gods') this is to the best of my knowledge, El=singular, El-ohim is plural, if I am mistaken as to the grammatical usage in the passage, feel free to inform and I shall consider myself corrected, the usage of Elohim (to my understanding as plurality of god to gods) converts the book from monotheism to polytheism, Also, to the best of my understanding, use of el and el-ohim are sourced to the Elohist Text, do you agree or dis-agree. Interesting.

Kindest Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
12-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Ouch!!

But well put.

Tolerance and patience of each other while we learn our truth is probably our biggest challenge and lesson yet.

Peace out bros :);)

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 08:37 PM
'I'd respect him less if he kept his mouth shut.'

Read it again.

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 08:45 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive!:

Pray tell, of what are you speaking?

pssst. the elohim stuff? whats upwitdat?

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
12-08-2007, 08:46 PM
I give up.

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 08:48 PM
Peace & Greetings fullfathomfive!

Me smokum peacepipe 4:20 est

Kindest Regards!!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

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12-08-2007, 09:00 PM
pronoun: (http://exposedplanet.com/index.php?showimage=66)

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Peace & Greetings edit!:

Thankyou for reply! I realise you are not the wordiest lad or lass, so I respectfully request a little further clarification I posed to fullfathomfive.

I was aware El and Elohim as pronouns, generic 'Title of Office' ,'mighty one(s)',. So I am taking your reply to indicate the usage of 'Elohim' in this passage is an amplification of the singular El and is not to be considered as Plural, still to be considered 'Monotheistic and not Polytheistic. Is that an 'affirmative' or 'Negatory'. Also from which source text was this verse from: J, E, P, or D.

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

PS. thank you for that interesting link

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12-08-2007, 09:52 PM
Also from which source text was this verse from: J, E, P, or D.

:cool: ^

* D 'or (http://donnadonella.com/images/suits_and_seperates/ChristianDior_3suit.jpg)

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 10:14 PM
Peace & Greetings edit!!!:

Don't sugarcoat, spititout! Put some meat on the bone, (lad/lass, extraterrestial Lifeform)

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Please note in my prior posts I have announced I am a 'Janitor', we 'Janitors' require greater degress of specificity. For obvious reasons.

I am taking your response as: Deuteronomic Source

'kay?

edit
12-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Peace & Greetings edit!!!:

Don't sugarcoat, spititout! Put some meat on the bone, (lad/lass, extraterrestial Lifeform)

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Please note in my prior posts I have announced I am a 'Janitor', we 'Janitors' require greater degress of specificity. For obvious reasons.

I am taking your response as: Deuteronomic Source

'kay?Deuteronomic Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jani%C4%8Dar

htthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ten_Commandments_%281956_film%29

Vir
p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_Decalogue

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-08-2007, 11:05 PM
YO!! edit!!!:

I may be a 'Janitor', but even I don't use 'Wiki'pedia. Sheeeesh!

frowny emoticon.........tear(ocular saline discharge)

Still, my Kindest Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
13-08-2007, 11:31 AM
Hi Snoop,

So you got 100% in the test hey? Good for you, it's quite an acheivement, don't suppose you could sit my exams for me in August could you?:D

The human brain.....what would you like me to discuss, there is much to cover, we could look at cognition, the area of psychology that using the computer analogy to describe it's processes, for example;

Psychology is the science of human thought, feelings and behaviour as they are influenced by and have influence on other people. Within this broad definition thought has always occupied a pivotal role: People think about their social world, on the basis of thought they act in certain ways. Thought is the internal language and symbols we use, it is often conscious at least something we are or could be aware of.
In contrast, cognition is largely automatic, we are unaware of it and only notice it wth difficulty, let alone characterise it in language and/or shared symbols.
Perhaps a useful way to think about cognition is as a computer program: it operates in the background, running all the functions of the computer that we are aware of.

mmmmmmmmmm, prefer a little biopsych?

you'd have to let me know what it is you would like to discuss on the brain/mind topic, it's pretty diverse...

As far as telling me about the horrors of the world and how my 'sunshine' does not cut the crust as a spiritual warrior, I can assure you I certainly am not blinded by the dark deeds of humanity, nor do I shrug off the after effects of any 'evil' that has been done. this girl ain't no airy-fairy type at all.




Peace & Greetings lydia78!:

'Turning of the worm' at the 'Crux of the Crux of the Crux'=the pivotal point at the essence, core of the matter at hand.

This Utilisation of the Brain/Mind Complex is very important. You should be familiar with the points I made above concerning our(humans) msot important muscle.

There is a Mechanical & Mathematical essence to life on this planet. When I poop into the water upstream from you, it effects the water you are receiving downstream. Now, I was a Level 'A' Labourer=70$ hour, Level 'A' Hazardous Waste Worker,(environmental hazard remediation technician) First Union Labourer in the United States to get 100% on Federal Radiation Workers Exam.(puffs up and preens) I have actually shoveled up many, many tons of very nasty 'stuff'. This is Pro-Active.

You can 'Beam Sunshine' all day but it won't get the Prions, Depleted Uramium, The PCBs. Humanity is divided between the 'Technocratic Civilised' societies and the 'Natural Peoples', the Xingu Indians, The Inuits, The Tibetans, and so on.

It is our Techno-cratic societies that have already, at this date, done enormous harm to the earths environment. Check out PRIONS and their ramifications. Where I live Albany N.Y., we had a munitions Plant that made D.U., it has contaminated a wide area, cluster illnesses around the site, this is a densly populated area, A 10 acre site has already cost 175,000,000$
and it still isn't done.

These PRIONS and D.U Particles are Airborne. They have become embedded in our food supplies. Root Cause(causal factor) Individual Deficit of Moral Character. Usually incited by Money and Perceived Power.

GM Crops. Frankenfood. The 'School I am in' we do not speak of the NWO, the Illumiwhattis, the Zorghanixians from Planet Urbex, we speak of the 'Beast System, Satan, Babylon.

The Iraq War= New Babylon versus Old Babylon, the 'Snake is eating its tail.

To the Author of this thread I apologize for being so off topic, one post has led to another.

Miss Lydia78, please stop by the Yahweh thread and discuss more, I must leave now, but I desire to speak with you about the Brain/Mind Complex Utilisation Factor. This is a Key Element of the Algebraic Equation we humans are 'crafting.

Until then, my Kindest Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus



I have spent a great deal of my life fighting the bastards who would corrupt and manipulate the minds and hearts of others, I have witnessed first hand the power of darkness, the frenzy of spiritual power and money, the greed, the suffering, how? I lived with a master mason (step-father and his cronies) and I can assure you, it was no picnic in the park!! During those times, I was awakened, my families survival came in the form of spiritual guidence in a ways many would not think possible. The bottom line is no scriptures were needed to understand the higher power, it just is. It teaches you through intuition, love and about responsibilty of the self, through this I have witnessed the mass transformation of the people around me who were on their knees in emotional, mental,physical and spiritual pain resume their higher self and spiritual strength that fears not fear itself.

Your scriptures seem to have made your mind up for you, your words not mine. I prefer to make up my own mind, and btw, after everything my family and I have been through, it would be too easy to remain in fear, to not trust humanity, to join the masses and segregate humanity to the waste skip.......I think not, what kind of spiritual warrior does that?

Humanity is amazing, even a quick glimpse of physical structure and systems of the human body is a universe in itself an that's not even touching on the mental, emotional and spiritual structures!!

Humanity is awakening, and that awakening is accerlerating.

Humanity has been duped, by too many Gods, Influences, Aliens, it is time we took back our power and I feel this is to be so.

Kind regards to you.

snoopsnuffleopagus
13-08-2007, 01:39 PM
A Very Good Morning to You Miss Lydia78!: (est ny)

Thank You for your enlightening communique. Your last sentence I am in full agreement with. I, myself am not a godworshipper, and this is not semantics I use. I do recognise and worship the Super-Being whos Name is Yahweh, Title of Office is Father, Father Yahweh translates to Supreme Teacher of Righteousness.

The scriptures are the 'Vehicle' the Torah is delivered by for anecdotal inferences of points of the Law.

Consider: One is motoring down the Motorway and to the left and to the right are small indicator sticks deliniating the borders of the Motorways boundaries. Guide markings. The use of these Laws provide specificity of action for any conceivable occurence,and application and adherence to these Laws will prevent many errors of judgement that may have produced negative ramifications.

A wondeful occurence occured(smiley emoticon) last evening about 9:00pm est. I received a call from an Elder of the House of Yahweh, and we spoke enpointe concerning matters we discussed yesterday.

I apologise for my 'snarky' comment 'beam sunshine' and attribute it to the 'Heat of the Moment'. My bad!

He validated your prime point: The 'End' is not 'Carved in Stone' only the Torah is. Though I was aware of this, I honestly had lost 'Faith' in my fellow 'Techno-cratic' humans to 'do the right thing'. I have no 'beef' with the Xingu Indians, Inuits and other 'Natural Peoples of this world.

He made a statement to me that shook my tea-cup. He posited, George W. Bush may 'Repent' see the error of his ways and work to bring the Techno-cratic societies back from the brink of the Abyss they are heading for.

He also informed me, how if the Techno-cratic societies would stop putting the pollutants(du,pcb,chemicals and biologicals,etc.) into the environment, the Earth, itself has the ability to cleanse itself over a period of time.

A quite cheerful conversation. There is still hope for humanity, so Father Yahweh, through the agency of one of His executives, amplified your position,hmmmmm, and I concur.

The matter of the Brain/Mind Complex Capacity Utilisation(Tis I who has 'coined' this term, I made it clear through the 11th grade don't you know)
This is where the 'Human Potential' resides. As I so boldly declared:'99% of humans are utilising less than 50% of their Brain/Mind Capacity.And I believe the theory that it is an outside causal force that is restraining this, not an evolutionary restraint. This is evindenced by what some have referred to as 'Overshadowing' examples like Mozarts compositions at age nine that are superior to the compositions of the Julliard School of Music Graduates. Tesla, Davinci, so throughout history there are examples of humans who have utilised impressive percentages of their Brain/Mind Capacity. The statement I made of the human Brains ability as being greater than the worlds most powerful super-computer is borne out by any book on the nuero-sciences, this is relevant to your endeavors.

At this juncture, I please ask you to consider this: The most vivid example of a mortal(at the time)human utilising 100% of their Brain/mind Capacity is Yahshua(Yahweh is Salvation) Messiah. He personifies the penultimate 'Human Potential', what is attributed to as 'miracles' and 'magic' is evidence of the power of the human Brain/Mind Complex.100% use of the Brain/Mind. Scripture bears this out:
Yahshua declared, we all would do more marvelous and wonderful things than He had.

The reason for this ability to Utilise 100% of His Brain/Mind was perfect obedience to Father Yahweh and His Laws, thus being trusted by Father Yahweh as to not bring harm to Himself or any othe living Being or the Environment. Without our Heavenly Fathers trust, this ability in humans remain restrained.

Please note: I am not in the 'conversion' business, merely, I 'believe' through much studies of many doctrines, this particular one makes the most sense to me. Do not harm yourself, do not harm others and respect the Environment, which Father Yahweh happens to own, since He created it.

If anything, it is a lack of 'Respect' for ourselves, others and the Environment that has brought us to such a dismaying 'State of Affairs'.

I mus t attend to duties now, I would like to address some points of a post you made of that car journey you related, my eyes were 'bugging out of my head'':eek:

Until we speak again!: My Kindest Regards!!::) Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
14-08-2007, 10:59 AM
Morning Snoop,

Thankyou for the apology, I appreciate it, I too extend the olive branch as I understand things get said in the heat of the moment, least you called me 'sunshine' and not 'asshole bitch' LOL :D

Anyway, yes, I understand what you mean by our not using the full capacity of our brainpower, you are of course right in your explanation that the human mind-brain is indeed more powerful than any supercomputer.

The common myth about our usage (or lack of) brain power ie, "we only use 10% of our brain" is wrong, what it refers to is that the electrical activity (ie, energy) of the nervous system and brain (CNS and PNS) is not being used to it's full potential. This in my opinion, is due to the education system et al, whom are as David Icke said, are creating left brain prisioners....the right hemisphere, (ie, creativity) is being blocked, there is no flow or harmony between each hemisphere and therefore we are locked into a 'certain' perceptions or social constructs based on the needs of the NWO.

When it comes to inspirational spiritual 'leaders or messiah's' or/and so-called geniuses, it is my belief that they are using near and/or their full brain potential.

But how.

These fully activated individuals are channelling a higher force which then 'powers' electrical activation in the brain hence bridging 'heaven on earth'. or ' high frequency spiritual energy and grounding it into the material-the brain'.
What is this high frequency energy?
In my experience it is Love.

This may suggest if we love more we are open to receiving more love, hence increased electrical brain activation, however, you don't have to be a genius to recognise the truth when it speaks to you, and as for the messiah's, I believe we are all that.

Kind regards!!

kblood
14-08-2007, 11:21 AM
Very nice post Lydia :) I can't do anything but agree with that.

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 01:22 PM
couldn't agree more lydia78!:

In the Book of Yahweh, this 'Higher Force'' is known as the 'Holy Spirit'. it is a 'Force' not a 'Being'. Also known as the 'Helper'.

It is written that when this 'Force' enters a human, not only does the utilisation of the Brain increase, but there is also an 'Evolution' of the Humans DNA. This would be an interesting 'Scientific Observation'.

Good fortune with your studies, as the Science, of your focus, is Key to Humanitys future benefit.

Back to work!

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Peace & Greetings lydia78!:

I would like to pose two questions to you, if you would be so kind as to entertain them.

First: Is Mineral Salt or Sea Salt a part of your diet?

I have read it is vital for the 'Electrical Charge' in every cell of ones body.

Second: As a semi-professional Guitarist, I endeavored to 'Memorize' 100 pages of classical & Jazz sheet music. I see it as one side of the Brain is the 'Database' and the otherside is the 'Flava'. Would you agree or disagree that this is an example of a 'Union' of both sides(utilised for a 'Benign' Purpose?

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

synergy777
14-08-2007, 05:02 PM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7093/swastika1kf4.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4237/yhvhsj7.gif

archangel
14-08-2007, 05:57 PM
In my Opinion, He Was Satan....

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 06:07 PM
Peace & Blessings be upon you synergy777!:

My deepest gratitude for placing before the readers eyes, Yahweh Name as the 'Tetra-Grammaton'. Read from top to bottom: Yowd(Y) Heh(H) Waw(W)* Heh(H), four consonants from the Hebrew Alephbet. As found in the J(ah)-Text, oldest(700 BCE) complete Text of the Pentateuch, (first five books) of the Book of Yahweh.

Imagine! 'Title' ing the Book after the 'Creator Being' who inspired it to be written.

My Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

*Waw(W) may also be Vav(V)

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 06:10 PM
Peace & Greetings archangel!:

It would be fascinating to explore that 'Theory' in the, 'What is Satanism, Exactly?' thread in the Satanism Department.

I personally shall look forward to that Post.

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
14-08-2007, 06:14 PM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7093/swastika1kf4.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4237/yhvhsj7.gif

Are you saying that the tetragrammaton is the inspiration for swastikas, or vice versa? I can see how it could be rearranged to form a swastika.

archangel
14-08-2007, 06:21 PM
Peace & Greetings archangel!:

It would be fascinating to explore that 'Theory' in the, 'What is Satanism, Exactly?' thread in the Satanism Department.

I personally shall look forward to that Post.

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

I don't know if Satan is the correct word.

I mean he was a Extra terrestrial who did not really love man. There were other Anunaki who helped mankind much more than he. And he certainly should not be worshiped as GOD.

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Peace & Greetings archangel!:

I too, am aware of these Theories and my understanding is their origin cannot be traced back further than the early centuries of this 'Common Era'.

You used the word 'Was' or do you prefer 'is'?

I, personaly have never worshipped Father Yahweh as a Generic Title of Office 'god'. Prior Posts in this thread and the Satan thread make the case Yahweh is not a god, gods are other 'beings'.

To posit Yahweh was Satan(accuser, adversary) is to say Yahshua Messiah was Satan. In the Book of Ephesians it is written 'Yahshua' is the 'Image' of Yahweh.

I would like to see you make your case, but not in this thread. I would suggest the more appropriate thread 'What is Satanism, exactly?' thread.

Should you Post it here, I would be compelled to post dozens of Verses of Scripture refuting your theory.
Your posting in this Thread would be a hinderance of amplification of points already made, as to the purpose of Father Yahwehs Plan is Moral Character Development. The instruction of the Torah.

Do you Posit?: Yahweh, Yahshua and the Torah are Satanic?

I await your reply, Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
14-08-2007, 07:00 PM
Hi Kblood and Snoop,:)


How are we all this eve?

Well snoop, I don't have a salt-lick or anything like that, I tend to use salt more on an external bases rather that internal.
But you're right, salt has properties that are essential for polarisation of the electrical charge as neutrons fire and pathways are built by the perphieral and central nervous systems. So yes, but too much will fuck you over.

And absolutely yes, Guitar playing, memorizing music, etc, is most definatly a harmony between hemispheres. You must be pretty good hey snoop!!:)


Peace & Greetings lydia78!:

I would like to pose two questions to you, if you would be so kind as to entertain them.

First: Is Mineral Salt or Sea Salt a part of your diet?

I have read it is vital for the 'Electrical Charge' in every cell of ones body.

Second: As a semi-professional Guitarist, I endeavored to 'Memorize' 100 pages of classical & Jazz sheet music. I see it as one side of the Brain is the 'Database' and the otherside is the 'Flava'. Would you agree or disagree that this is an example of a 'Union' of both sides(utilised for a 'Benign' Purpose?

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Laters;)

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Thank you for your replies lydia78!:

Yes, the books I have read on Salt and the Nuero Sciences simply take my breath away.

I was motivated to memorise so much, so that when performing, the division of Mind, neccessitated by reading would be eliminated, relying on internal database and overlaying with spontaneous creative nuances.

Yes, I have received many accolades for my playing, but the fact of arising at 4:30 am six days a week and then labouring ten twelve hours always checked my ego.

It's all good!

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

archangel
14-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Peace & Greetings archangel!:

I too, am aware of these Theories and my understanding is their origin cannot be traced back further than the early centuries of this 'Common Era'.

You used the word 'Was' or do you prefer 'is'?

I, personaly have never worshipped Father Yahweh as a Generic Title of Office 'god'. Prior Posts in this thread and the Satan thread make the case Yahweh is not a god, gods are other 'beings'.

To posit Yahweh was Satan(accuser, adversary) is to say Yahshua Messiah was Satan? In the Book of Ephesians it is written 'Yahshua' is the 'Image' of Yahweh.

I would like to see you make your case, but not in this thread. I would suggest the more appropriate thread 'What is Satanism, exactly?' thread.

Should you Post it here, I would be compelled to post dozens of Verses of Scripture refuting your theory.
Your posting in this Thread would be a hinderance of amplification of points already made, as to the purpose of Father Yahwehs Plan is Moral Character Development. The instruction of the Torah.

Do you Posit?: Yahweh, Yahshua and the Torah are Satanic?

I await your reply, Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

I don't want to Junk up your thread. But I'm not sure how you would refute my theory or show me verses to refute my theory. It's very clear for Summerian, Egyptian,Greek mythology, that Enlil was not a kind god. He was ruthless. But to the Victor is who gets to write history is the montage.

No, I don't think Yaweh or Jesus are Satanic. Not sure how to really define satanism. Does Sataninc mean opposer/advesary. Well if thats the case then we are all satanic because we all oppose certain things.

but I won't carry on in this thread as to junk it up. Proceed:)

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-08-2007, 09:25 PM
Peace & Greetings archangel!:

Well said! This is why I suggested the thread in the Satanism Department, authored by: clipwip. I do not think clipwip will object as long as the topic is Satan.

I have already posted verses from the Book of Yahweh concerning Satan there, check them out, and if you Post there, time permitting, I would be delighted to join you in exploring this most important subject.

Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

synergy777
14-08-2007, 11:33 PM
http://www.yhwh.com/

http://www.theblackgod.com/Trueislam_davidL_debate.htm

http://rexcurry.net/tetragrammaton.html

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/944/tetragrammatonxf3.jpg

if yashuah is true then yahweh must be true, as yashuah means yah is salvation. also snoop in the sikh religion, we say wahe-guru, wahe-yahweh sound the same. sikhs also take the same nazarite vow of rastas.

synergy777
14-08-2007, 11:45 PM
http://www.fravahr.org/spip.php?article316

Babylon, Persia and Judaism
Breakup of Assyria’s Empire and Ascent of the Moses Legend

Tuesday 13 March 2007, by Frank E. SMITHA

Assyria’s great empire lasted no longer than would the empires that began in the late 19th century — about seventy-five years. Assyria weakened itself economically by continuous wars to maintain its empire, including defending against invasions by an Indo-European tribal people, the Cimmerians, who came upon the Assyrians from the northeast. The Assyrians spent themselves expanding into Egypt and in quelling the rebellions of Egyptian princes. The Cimmerian menace increased, and more rebellions occurred within the empire. Assyria was burdened by the expense of maintaining its army. Soldiers had to be paid. Massive numbers of horses had to be cared for and fed. Siege engines had to be moved against rebellious cities.


In 655 BCE, Egypt was able to break away from Assyrian rule. The Assyrians were then weakened by conflicts over succession, by coups and civil war. During these conflicts, cities in Canaan broke away from Assyrian control and Phoenicia began ignoring Assyrian directives. Other petty kingdoms joined the rebellion against Assyria, and in 623 the well led Chaldean army drove north from around Sumer and expelled the Assyrians from Babylon.

With the independence of Egypt and Babylon, and a weakened Assyria, the new king of Judah, Josiah — the grandson of Manasseh — declared Judah independent. The hereditary Yahweh priesthood, which had suffered a loss of status during Assyrian domination, seized independence as an opportunity to advance its cause. With the support of Josiah and the zeal of the newly liberated, they moved against the religious influences that had gained ascent during Assyria’s domination.

The Yahweh priesthood claimed to have found in a secret archive within Solomon’s temple a scroll signed by Moses — a document to become known as the Book of the Covenant. (2 Chronicles 34:1) How a work of such importance as Moses’ scroll had been lost or misplaced and forgotten for the two hundred years since the building of Solomon’s temple, remains a mystery. King Josiah treated the scroll as genuine. He supported the Yahwist priests, and he complained that previous generations had not listened to Yahweh. Now began an official intolerance that had not been the policy of kings David, Solomon, Jeroboam, Ahab, Jehu and Manasseh. According to the Old Testament, king Josiah, accompanied by a great crowd, went to Solomon’s temple and there made a covenant with Yahweh. Josiah ordered all objects of worship that were not Yahwist taken from Solomon’s temple, and these were burned in a field outside Jerusalem.

The high priest of Yahwism ordered lesser priests to Jerusalem, and he issued a new code that forbade all subjects of Josiah to practice religious rituals of “foreign” origin. According to the Old Testament, the code’s proscriptions included religious ordeals of passing through fire. It included practicing witchcraft, sorcery, using omens, worshiping images of gods in wood or stone, and it included a prohibition against orgiastic fertility festivals — festivals held in the spring and autumn that were accompanied by mass drunkenness and religious frenzy. The new code forbade all religious worship outside of Solomon’s temple. Temples outside of Jerusalem were rendered unusable. The new code forbade human sacrifices. According to the Second Book of Kings (23:10), Josiah defiled a place called the “Topheth”, a word meaning drums, which had been beaten loudly to drown out the screams of children being burned to death in sacrificial offerings. And the new code forbade the sacred prostitution that had been attached to temples, including the homosexual prostitution that was a part of Ba’al fertility worship.

The penalty for adhering to any of the newly forbidden practices was death, and death was the punishment too for the priests of rival religions. According to the Second Book of Kings 23:20, king Josiah led the assault:

And all the priests of the high places who were there he slaughtered on the altars and burned human bones on them.

Those who had been indulging in the now forbidden religious practices were great in number, and their religious practices had become habits not easily surrendered. And rather than try to force people to completely eradicate all of their old habits, the priests gave Josiah’s subjects a new meaning to various rituals that could fit with Yahweh worship. In the place of human sacrifices, animal sacrifices were to be performed. Instead of fertility festivals, they would engage in festivals that demonstrated their gratitude and devotion to Yahweh. The most important of these festivals, the spring festival, became the Passover — a commemoration of the exodus from Egypt led by Moses.

Babylon and The Jewish Captives
Between Mesopotamia and the Caspian Sea, tribes of an Indo-European people called Medes had become united under a single king. A later king of the Medes, Cyaxares, reorganized his army and attempted to expand westward against the Assyrians. He allied his army with the Chaldeans, who were now in control of Babylon and Sumer. The Medes and Chaldeans attacked, and together they defeated the Assyrians, overrunning Assyria’s capital, Nineveh, in 612. Nineveh’s walls were broken by the siege engines that Assyria had introduced centuries before. A community that had existed for more than two thousand years was obliterated. Those who escaped from Nineveh took refuge in Haran, and they fought on, but they were defeated in 609. Such a terrible revenge was taken on the Assyrians that two hundred years later the area would was still sparely populated. And the Assyrian empire was forgotten.

The Medes conquered as far as the Halys River in Asia Minor. The Chaldeans conquered as far as Cilicia and the Taurus Mountains. Meanwhile, with the demise of Assyria a revitalized Egypt felt free to move into Palestine. And when King Josiah heard that an Egyptian army was coming, he went south with an army to do battle against them, believing that Yahweh would protect him. Instead, he was promptly killed.

A contributor to the Old Testament’s Second Book of Chronicles was to claim that Yahweh had failed his faithful servant Josiah because Josiah had neglected to listen to Egypt’s pharaoh proclaim that Egypt was moving with Yahweh’s help, not against Judah but against others. But the Egyptians took control of Judah as Josiah had feared. They carried Josiah’s son and designated heir, Jehoahaz, back to Egypt and placed on Judah’s throne, as their puppet, his brother, Jehoiakim. Disaster was still seen as the result of displeasing the gods, and the Old Testament (2 Kings 23:29) describes Jehoahaz as it does other Hebrew victims: as having done evil in the eyes of the Lord.

The Chaldeans Overrun Judah
The Hebrews continued to suffer the misfortune of living on a bridge of land between great, imperial powers. The Chaldeans saw Egypt as a rival to be reckoned with. Their army went against the Egyptians in Syria. They drove the Egyptians back to Egypt, and while doing so they conquered Judah. In 587, eleven years later, the people of Jerusalem rebelled against Chaldean rule, and the Chaldeans responded by burning Jerusalem and tearing down its walls. Only remnants of the temple that Solomon built remained, never to be rebuilt. The Chaldeans rounded up about forty thousand from Judah as captives, including political leaders and high priests, and took them to their capital, Babylon, while some people from Judah fled into Egypt or into Arabia, and some went north into Chaldean controlled Mesopotamia.

Again many Hebrews saw Yahweh as having abandoned them. Some Hebrews believed that the god of the Chaldeans, Marduk, had defeated Yahweh. Contributors to the Old Testament would describe Judah’s loss of independence as more of Yahweh’s punishment for his people failings. The Old Testament would describe another prophet, Jeremiah, as having warned the people of Judah about their failure to obey Yahweh and of their failure to achieve economic and social justice — something lacking across all of civilization.

Yahweh as the Only God, and Awaiting Deliverance
The Hebrews who fled from Judah and went to Mesopotamia were allowed to settle where they wished and to take up whatever occupation they chose. These Hebrews found in Mesopotamia a prosperity that the priests of Yahweh had claimed Yahweh would provide them in Judah. Some of these Hebrews became farmers. Some prospered as merchants, rent collectors, contractors or bankers. Some among them adopted local names, converted to the worship of local gods and were content to remain in Mesopotamia permanently.

Those who were taken to Babylon as captives were also allowed to live according to their customs, including a freedom to worship Yahweh. These captives found Babylon a magnificent city compared to what they had known in Jerusalem. Like some other devout people who were to arrive in a big city people, they found Babylon filled with wickedness and temptation, and in combating these temptations they clung desperately to their worship of Yahweh. Believing like others that gods dwelled in places, the captives in Babylon asked themselves how they could “sing the Lord’s song in a foreign land?” (Psalms 137:4) They wondered whether Yahweh had accompanied them to Babylon. And some among them claimed that they could feel Yahweh’s presence among them.

Prior to their exile, worshipers of Yahweh had seen him as one of many gods. The Old Testament’s Book of Deuteronomy, 10:17, describes Yahweh as saying to Moses: «For the Lord your God is the God of gods». The worshipers of Yahweh had seen Yahweh as other peoples saw their god: as territorial, as ruling from a place. But now, in Babylon, they heard derision spoken against Yahweh and they responded defensively. Was not Yahweh, they asked, the god who had formed and made the earth? They concluded that rival gods were false and that Yahweh was the only true god. A late entry in the Book of Isaiah, amid descriptions of the captives in Babylon, would state the issue of Yahweh and other gods differently than is expressed in Deuteronomy: «There is no other god besides me…», it reads. «There is none but me.» (Isaiah 45:21.)

The captive worshipers of Yahweh found community and consolation in regular meetings that differed from what they had known in Judah. There was no temple and no altar at which they could worship, and their worship gave new emphasis to prayer, fasts, confession, and study. Believing that their exile was punishment for their sins, they hoped that their faith and dedication to Yahweh would win for them Yahweh’s forgiveness. They prayed for redemption and for Yahweh to allow them to return to Judah and to restore their homeland. They prayed for a king — a word that in Hebrew translates to messiah. The captive worshipers of Yahweh prayed not for a meek or suffering messiah but a man of strength like David, and preferably someone descended from David.

Persia, the Jews and Zoroastrianism
Alongside the Mede people, south of the Caspian Sea, was another Indo-European people: the Persians. The Persians had arrived from Central Asia sometime before 800 BCE, and they had come under the rule of the Medes. To weaken the Medes, the Chaldeans supported a Persian rebellion. A Persian prince, to be known as Cyrus II, led the rebellion, and some in the Mede army joined his rebellion. Cyrus and his army deposed the Mede king, and Cyrus united the Persians and Medes under his rule.

With Cyrus, the Chaldeans got more than they had bargained for: Cyrus was an able administrator and military leader. He consolidated his power over tribes in central Persia, and then he started building a greater empire. He moved his army of cavalry and light infantry into Asia Minor, and there, in 547, he overthrew King Croesus of Lydia, who had ruled all of Asia Minor west of the Halys River. Cyrus acquired Croesus’ great riches, and in name he acquired all of Croesus’ empire. The Greek cities on the western coast of Asia Minor submitted peacefully to Cyrus’ rule, but, in the more rugged terrain in southwestern Asia Minor, Cyrus’ generals had rebellions to crush.

Cyrus took annual tribute from the Greeks of Asia Minor while leaving them to their religion and customs. He connected his empire by a royal road that stretched from the city of Sardis in western Asia Minor to Susa, a road with post stations one day’s ride apart, with riders covering as many as 1600 miles in a week (9.5 miles per hour, 24 hours per day). For six years Cyrus embarked on more expeditions, his army conquering eastward from central Persia. And, occupying the trade route between Europe and the Far East, Cyrus’ empire prospered economically.

Persia Expands and Releases the Jewish Captives
Cyrus’ army was strengthened by warriors he had gained from newly conquered peoples, and he turned his greater army southward against the Chaldeans. He claimed that Babylon’s god, Marduk, had been awaiting a righteous ruler and that Marduk had called upon him, Cyrus, to become ruler of the world. The Old Testament gives a different interpretation of these events. It describes Cyrus as Yahweh’s agent and claims that Cyrus was stirred by Yahweh into taking revenge against Babylon’s wickedness and that Yahweh had «taken Cyrus by the right hand.» (Isaiah 45:1.)

In October 539, Babylon fell to Cyrus without a struggle. According to the Old Testament, the captive worshipers of Yahweh expected Cyrus to wreak Yahweh’s vengeance upon the wicked Babylonians. But Cyrus failed to punish Babylon, and the disappointed Yahwist captive’s found Cyrus honoring Babylon’s gods and treating Yahweh as just minor god of some distant place.

With his conquest of Babylon, Cyrus acquired rule of the Chaldean empire, and kings who had been vassals of the Chaldean king came and paid homage to him. A king of kings, Cyrus now ruled as far as Egypt. He saw himself as the benefactor of all those he ruled, and he permitted a captive named Zerubbabel — a descendant of one of Judah’s former kings — to lead forty thousand or so Jewish captives back to their homeland.

Some among the returning exiles believed that Yahweh had promised them good things to come, but in Jerusalem they found impoverishment, foreigners and few worshipers of Yahweh. Nearly half a century had passed since the exile from Jerusalem, and Zerubbabel found people in Jerusalem unwilling to accept his authority and resenting the intrusions of those returning from captivity. Those who returned to Jerusalem began laid a foundation for the new temple, but the hostility of local people and Yahweh’s failure to intervene on their behalf led them to abandon the project.

Cambyses and Darius the Great
In conquering Babylon, Cyrus acquired control over a vast trading network: through Canaan, Arabia to the Red Sea, Egypt and Africa. In his sixties, Cyrus sought additional territory farther east. In 529 he led his army across the Jaxartes River at the foot of the Hindu Kush mountains. There a queen called Tomyris, told him to rule his own people and to bear the sight of her ruling her’s. During this expedition, Cyrus died, and his son, Cambyses, succeeded him.

Cambyses tried to win glory to his name by conquering new territory, and after four years of preparation he conquered a portion of Egypt, bringing an end forever to the rule of the pharaohs. Cambyses absorbed the island of Cyprus, which surrendered to him voluntarily. Meanwhile, in Egypt, Cambyses scoffed at Egypt’s religion. His Persian religion opposed the worship of idols, and, to cure the Egyptians of what he saw as their superstitions, he had their idols burned. Cambyses is said to have killed with his dagger the bull representing the Egyptian god Apis and to have opened royal Egyptian tombs.

Cambyses’ stay in Egypt was disrupted by news of an attempted usurpation of his power in Persia. He had been away three years, and when he returned to Persia he found insufficient support against a formidable opposition. His death was reported as a suicide. And the Egyptians saw his death as the revenge of their gods.

The rising against Cambyses was led by Darius, an exceptionally able soldier and a member of Cyrus’ extended family — the Achaemenids. Darius had allied himself with some other aristocrats. A son of Cyrus — an heir to the throne — had been killed, and Darius claimed that it was Cambyses who had killed him. Darius presented himself as having thwarted a takeover by someone impersonating the murdered son, and he claimed that as a member of Cyrus’ family he was restoring legitimate rule. Not everyone accepted Darius’ claims, and in many places Darius had to combat uprisings and competing claims to the throne. Succeeding at this, Darius turned his attention to expanding the empire he had acquired. Stating that his god had chosen him as king of the entire world, Darius extended Persian rule in Egypt and beyond into what is now Libya. And, attracted by tribal divisions and wars in India, in 517 BCE he extended Persian rule through the Kyber Pass to the Indus River.

Darius made his capital Persepolis, in the south of Persia. He built highways, maintained postal service across his empire and encouraged commerce. He built a canal 150 feet wide, linking the Red Sea and the Nile. He reformed the empire’s money and revised its administration, dividing the empire into twenty provinces, called satrapies.

Darius carried with him a portrait of his beloved wife, Artystone. He respected the religions of the various peoples he ruled, and he wished for and won the good will of people across his empire. Inspired by the tradition of law that he found in Babylon, he codified what he believed were just laws for his empire, and he wanted the various peoples he ruled to have local laws that pertained to their own customs.

Religion and Other Customs among the Persians
Under the Achaemenid dynasty, before Darius, temples had appeared for the first time in Persia. Related to the Aryans who had invaded India, or a least having a language closely related to the Aryans, the Persians had gods similar to those found in the sacred Hindu Vedas. Having mixed with the Medes, among the Persians a Mede priesthood called the Magi had come to dominate their religion. The major god of the Medes was Zurvan, a god of time and destiny. Another god of the Persians was Mazda, whom Darius adopted in an effort to unify his empire. And in western Persia the god Mithra and goddess Anahita were also worshiped.

The Persians buried their dead above ground, their faith holding that a corpse defiled the earth. As a religious people they saw virtue in modest eating, in having only one meal a day and nothing to drink but water. They valued cleanliness and associated a lack of cleanliness with the devil and his diseases. Severe penalties were given to those thought to have spread disease by their uncleanness. And concern with the evils of the Devil led to stern laws against what the Persians saw as sinful sexuality, including masturbation, promiscuity and prostitution.

Etiquette was important to the Persians. Persians holding superior positions in society offered their cheeks to be kissed by those of a lower status, while equals embraced each other and kissed on the lips. The Persians thought it unbecoming to eat or drink anything in the street, or to spit, and like the Japanese today they thought it rude to blow one’s nose around others. And in this age of travel and contacts among people, Persians were described by others as a hospitable, generous, warm hearted, open, and honest in speech.

In keeping with their concern for others, Persian punishments for crimes were severe. The punishment for manslaughter was ninety strokes with a horsewhip. Capital crimes included treason, rape, sodomy, cremating or burying the dead, murder, accidentally sitting on the king’s throne, invading the king’s privacy or approaching one of his concubines. Death was administered by poisoning, stabbing, crucifixion, hanging, stoning, burying one up to his head, smothering one in hot ashes, crushing one’s head between huge stones or other methods of serving Mazda in his battle against the Devil.

Thus Spake Zarathustra
According to legend, Zoroastrianism had origins in a prophet named Zoroaster, also called Zarathustra, who appeared sometime after the Persians had arrived in Iran. It was said that when Zarathustra was born his laugh scattered the evil spirits that had been hanging around him as they did around all people. Legend claims that Zarathustra grew up with a love of wisdom and righteousness. It was said that when he was thirty he immersed himself in water during a spring religious festival and when he emerged in a state of purity he had a vision of a shining being who introduced himself as Good Purpose. According to the legend, Good Purpose took Zarathustra up a mountain to the great god, Mazda. And Zarathustra came down off the mountain with a message that he wished to preach to all humanity.

Legend describes Zarathustra as having had a vision of Mazda as all wise and the source of all justice and goodness, from which all other divine supporters of goodness emanated. Zarathustra perceived wickedness and cruelty as residing in Mazda’s adversary: the Devil. Here, according to Zarathustra, was the answer to why righteous people suffered.

According to Zarathustra, when Mazda and the Devil first met, Mazda created life and the Devil created its opposite: death. Thereafter, according to Zarathustra, a struggle took place between Mazda and the Devil. Zarathustra described Mazda’s goodness and creation of life as the force of light, and he described the Devil as the ruler of darkness, including the world of hell under the earth. Zarathustra described the Devil as the leader of all the evil spirits that hovered in the air, tempting people to commit crime and sin. He described the Devil as creating not only darkness but winter, ants, locusts, vermin, serpents, sin, sodomy, menstruation and the other plagues of life that had ruined the paradise into which Mazda had placed the first humans.

According to Zarathustra, in the great battle between Mazda and the Devil, people were responsible for their thoughts, and, in choosing between right and wrong, people became their own saviors. Zarathustra called people to a rigid discipline to support Mazda’s goodness. And he claimed that in this struggle between right and wrong, every man, woman and child had a guardian angel that was under Mazda’s leadership — an angel that helped them achieve virtue.

According to legend, people ridiculed Zarathustra and persecuted him. But then a king was converted to Zarathustra’s teachings, and the religion of Zarathustra spread. When this might have hapened is unknown, for none of the Persian kings mentioned Zoroaster in their inscriptions nor mentioned supernatural beings that were unique to Zoroastrianism, and the early Zoroastrians left no records. Long after Zarathustra, Zoroastrians priests declared writing unfit for Zarathustra’s holy words, but the Zoroastrian priesthood did leave a legend of Zarathustra’s death. Zarathustra, they said, was consumed by a flash of lightening.

The Optimism of the Zoroastrians
Zoroastrians did not see evil as inherent in nature or inherent in the human body. They saw nature as good because of the power of their god Mazda, whom they thought stronger than the Devil and omnipotent except for the temporary battle he was facing with the Devil. Zoroastrians were optimistic, believing that Mazda’s triumph was assured. They believed that the birth of Zarathustra had been the beginning of a final epoch that was to last three thousand years — ending perhaps around the year 2000 CE. They believed that Mazda’s message would be carried throughout the world, that those who followed the Devil’s lies would dwell in darkness and misery, that the final epoch would end with the pronouncement of a Last Judgment and the utter destruction of the Devil and all his forces of evil. They believed that with this ending would come a great resurrection of all good souls and that all good people (the followers of Truth) would cross the bridge into Mazda’s kingdom, free of decay, old age and death.

The New Jewish State
Judah was fifty miles at its widest point and one hundred miles long — a small land within the Persian Empire. There, the Persians allowed Zerubbabel and his priesthood subordinate authority over Judah’s internal affairs. One member of this priesthood, Jehozadek, spoke around 520 BCE of the people of Judah having harvested little, not having enough food to satisfy their hunger nor enough clothing for warmth (Haggai 1:6). He blamed this on their own errancy, and he called for a renewed effort at rebuilding Solomon’s temple, which he believed would strengthen them spiritually.

After permission was received from Darius, work on the temple began, and it was finished in 516. It was a meager structure compared to the temple Solomon had built, but the temple’s opening ceremony was grand. It included the sacrifice of one hundred bulls, two hundred rams, four hundred lambs and twelve male goats — paid for by Darius. (Ezra 6:17.)

As is written of Cyrus in the Book of Isaiah, 44:28 and 45:1, the Yahweh priesthood looked kindly upon Persia’s kings. For Cyrus had freed the Hebrew captives, and Cyrus and his successors had protected them from the aggressions of others and allowed them to worship their own god. The Persians and the Yahweh priesthood, moreover, believed in one supreme god, and both stressed morality and a strict adherence to a code of laws.

Persian officials and their families were stationed in Judah, and in Judah were colonies of Persian merchants. With them in Judah were Persian temples and priests. And with the good feelings of Yahwists toward the Persians, Yahwists might have been open to receiving religious ideas from the Persians. Not known to have been a part of Yahweh worship before the coming of the Persians were hierarchies of angels, demons in conflict, Satan as an independent and evil force rather than an agent of Yahweh, reward and punishment after death, the immortality of the soul, the coming of a final judgment ending in a fiery ordeal and resurrection of the dead. It appears that the aristocratic Yahwist priesthood — the Sadducees — resisted these ideas and that commoners in Judah accepted them — ideas to be championed by those to be known as Pharisees.

Satan and the Book of Job
In the sacred writings of the Yahwists, Satan had not been a ruler over evil. In the Old Testament’s Book of Numbers, Satan is described as an angel (from the Greek word angelos), as a messenger and a bringer of unexpected obstacles, sent by God to obstruct wrongful activity. And in the Book of Job this Satan appears again as one of Yahweh’s obedient servants, an angel messenger, sent to test Job’s devotion to Yahweh, a test to see if Job would blame and curse Yahweh.

The story of Job attempts to resolve the problem of Yahweh being well meaning and powerful while those loyal to him suffer. Job is described as a wealthy man, with “7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yokes of oxen and 500 female donkeys”, the kind of man the prophet Amos might have despised. But the Book of Job describes him as a good man: devout and fearing Yahweh. Job is advised by a friend that the innocent do not perish and that the upright are not destroyed, that whoever sows trouble harvests it. The message for Job is to be patient, that if he endures his suffering Yahweh will do right by him. Job endures and is faithful to Yahweh, and Yahweh restores his good fortunes.

The Book of Esther
Because of its account of the rule of Xerxes (from 486 to 465 BCE), the Book of Esther appears to have been written sometime after the early 400s, perhaps as late as the 100s BCE. In the Book of Esther, the Persian monarch, Ahasuerus, dumps his queen, Vashti, and marries Esther, a young Jewish woman. Esther’s cousin and foster-father, Mordecai, warns the Persian monarch that a plot is afoot against his royal life. A Persian grand vizier, Haman, who opposes Mordecai, convinces the monarch to decree death against Mordecai and other Jews in his empire, selected by lot, on a certain date. The queen, Esther, intervenes, and the Grand Vizier is instead hanged. Mordecai is made grand vizier in his place. And on the day that Jews were to be executed, they defend themselves and slay as many as seventy-five thousand.

Among Persian writings no record of any queen named Esther or a Persian minister named Mordecai or Haman has been found. Esther is an Aramaic name for the goddess Ishtar. Mordecai means worshiper of Marduk. The story of Esther resembles an ancient Persian story about the shrewdness of Harem queens. The description in the Book of Esther of the parade through the streets dressed in royal robes, the mock combat and other happenings are similar to the Persian celebration of the New Year. This celebration had mock combat between one team representing the old year and other team representing the New Year, with the old year being hanged in effigy. Apparently, Jews also took part in this New Year celebration, and eventually the story of Esther had been invented to explain the celebration and to turn it into a Jewish celebration — much as Christians were to change pagan holidays into Christian holidays.

Artaxerxes and Ezra
Darius spent his later years at his palace enjoying his expanded harem, which had women of various races. In 486, at the age of sixty-four, he fell ill and died, and he was succeeded by his son Xerxes, who ruled for twenty-one years. Under Xerxes, some women at court acquired great influence, and jealousies surrounded him. Then a eunuch commander of the guard conspired with others and assassinated Xerxes and Xerxes’ first son. The conspirators put on the throne another of Xerxes’ sons: an eighteen-year-old named Artaxerxes, the son of a foreign woman from the royal harem. Artaxerxes asserted his authority and had the eunuch commander executed. And Artaxerxes ruled over the vast Persian Empire for forty-two years.

Like Darius, Artaxerxes was interested in the peoples of his empire remaining orderly under their local laws and religion. He appointed as Judah’s new governor a Yahwist scholar and priest named Ezra, who had been living in Babylon, and he instructed Ezra to appoint magistrates and judges who would keep Judah in the laws of its god, Yahweh.

According to the Old Testament, Ezra and a following of eighteen hundred males moved to Judah. And what Ezra found must have been far from what he had expected, for when he arrived he tore at his hair, his beard, his garment, his robe, and he sat down appalled. He found that the Hebrews of Judah had not separated themselves from other peoples and that they had been practicing “abominations”.

Ezra wanted to separate the worshipers of Yahweh from foreign influences and to advance their identity as a community of worshipers of Yahweh. He called the people of Jerusalem to assemble, and he told the assembly that new demands would be put upon them. Judah was to become a Yahwist state and its people to be considered one people. Ezra ordered foreign women expelled from the community. He commanded that no one could marry any of the foreign women and that any man who had already married such a woman must expel her from his house.

Already the people of Judah were a mix of peoples. Solomon himself had been the son of a woman described as a Hittite: Bathsheba. Nevertheless, Ezra was concerned with lineage of the Yahwist priesthood, and he purged from the priesthood those who could not prove that they were descended from purely Hebrew families. But rather than attempt to extend this stricture to those who were not priests, he made observance of Yahwist practices the deciding issue whether one belonged to his community — beginning what would eventually be Judaism’s racial tolerance. Judaism — a word associated with the word Judah — was a faith based on the worship of Yahweh and adherence to Yahweh’s laws as described in the Moses legend. And, like most other religions at this time, rather than evangelistic, its concern was essentially with its own community.

Judah’s New Laws
Ezra’s laws were Yahweh’s laws, just as Hammurabi’s laws were Marduk’s laws. And Ezra’s laws included the traditional eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But the custom of an entire family being considered guilty for the act of any one of its members was discarded in favor of individual responsibility: the father was to continue to have supreme authority within the family, but a father would not be punished for the sins of a son, or a son for the sins of the father.

Marriage was strictly regulated as before. Fathers were to arrange the marriages of their sons and daughters without their consent. Marriage was recognized as the basis of a family, and marital promises were supported by the harshest of measures: if an engaged woman copulated with another man, both she and the man were to be stoned to death; if a married man or a married woman committed adultery they were to be stoned to death — unless the man copulated with a slave, in which case he was merely beaten. (Leviticus 19:20.)

If a father found his son stubborn, rebellious and disobedient, he could take him to the city elders, and then the son could be stoned to death. In a dispute that went to court, the man judged wicked would be whipped, but no more than forty times. If a man had two wives and one was loved and the other unloved and the unloved one gave birth to the first son, that son would remain favored as the first son. If a neighbor needed help with his stray oxen, sheep or donkeys, one should help him. And one should not move a neighbor’s boundary marker.

The Jewish priesthood expected people to look after their health by following Judaic law. Touching the dead or touching persons having certain types of ailments was prohibited. To clean a leper, one was obliged to sacrifice a male lamb to Yahweh and to sprinkle the patient with the blood of a bird mixed with running water. In the Old Testament’s Book of Leviticus, Yahweh is described as giving laws to Moses that rejected Canaanite ways. Moses is described as prohibiting the wearing of garments made of both linen and wool or garments with tassels, as was custom among the Canaanites. And it was written that one should not eat pork or any animal that did not both chew its cud and have cloven feet. Pork had been the major source of meat among the Canaanites, who, having been a settled people could raise pigs. The nomadic Hebrews had raised sheep and goats, which, unlike pigs, could be herded over long distances. And, with pork having been a food eaten by the detested Canaanites and not traditional among Hebrews, it had been described as unclean, although there is no evidence that the Canaanites suffered from eating their pigs anymore than the Hebrews suffered from eating their sheep or goats.

The Five Books of Moses
Apparently by the time that Ezra was in Judah, the first five books of the Old Testament were assembled: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. These books were declared to have been written by Moses himself, inspired by God. In Hebrew they were called the Torah of Moses. They appear to have been assembled with national unity in mind, as a compilation of the history of the Jewish people, with a clear distinction between the people favored by Yahweh and the outsiders detested by Ezra. Included was the long list of who begat whom that expressed Ezra’s concern about lineage, and also included were the priestly matters and legalities about which Ezra was concerned. Not included among the books were those writings that supported one group or another rather than the Jewish nation as a whole, writings that were later to be described as apocrypha (hidden things) and pseudopigrapha (falsely attributed writings).

Wisdom and the Book of Proverbs
Among the sacred writings of the Hebrews were The Proverbs. Legend held that Solomon was its author, but some Biblical scholars believe that Proverbs may have been written after the year 400 BCE. Proverbs begins with the statement that “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge”. From there, Proverbs advises its readers to avoid being enticed by greed into joining with others in thievery and mugging. Do not envy sinners, it states. «Drink water from your own well. Pay your debts, and fear the Lord.» By fearing the Lord, it claims, one acquires security and wisdom. Integrity, it states, brings security, and hatred and arrogance stir up strife. Be kind and true, Proverbs admonishes. «Trust the Lord with all your heart.» If you honor the Lord «your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will overflow with new wine.» Do not weary yourself to gain wealth. Wisdom and a good name are better than silver and gold. Do not boast about tomorrow. Do not slander a slave to his master. Be good to your neighbors. Smell good for the sake of others. Do not be enticed by an absent neighbor’s wife. Do not associate with one given to anger. And wives, do not be idle, and be happy in your work.

The Jews Await a Great King
The prosperity that the followers of Yahweh had expected continued to elude them. In and around Jerusalem poverty continued, and famine appeared. As described in the Book of Nehemiah, 5:1-5, the poor protested:

We are mortgaging our fields, our vineyards, and our houses that we might get grain because of the famine… We have borrowed money for the king’s tax on our fields and our vineyards. And now our flesh is like the flesh of our brothers, our children like their children. Yet behold, we are forcing our sons and our daughters to be slaves. And some of our daughters are forced into bondage already, and we are helpless because our fields and vineyards belong to others.
The priests who governed Judah after Ezra attempted economic and social reforms. As described in the Book of Deuteronomy, usury within the community of Hebrews was prohibited, but usury against non-Hebrews was allowed. As a part of these reforms, every seventh year debts were to be abolished. And every seventh year, fellow Jews who had been enslaved were to be set free — while the slavery of others was to remain. And adversity and hardship continued among the Jews. Suffering Jews continued to look nostalgically to the glorious days of King David. And they looked forward to Yahweh bringing them another great king — a messiah — like David.

Copyright © 1998 by Frank E. Smitha. All rights reserved.

synergy777
14-08-2007, 11:50 PM
http://www.yahwehyoga.net/

http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=416

Richard Dawkins discusses why religion is both inane and dangerous. Of course he’s mostly talking about the Abrahamic religions, because as he accurately observes, belief in Apollo and Thor has pretty much died out.

I’m no expert on Buddhism, but it’s said that Buddha tried to teach his followers not to be followers. He encouraged them to reject arguments from authority and to test the validity of his teachings through personal experience and analysis.(same thing yashuah said,"test them by their fruits").

dawkins slams yahweh without addressing the corruption from rome, people always do this. attack yahweh, whilst conviently forgetting the text they are using is from rome.

http://www.freewebs.com/billmcmurdo/

http://www.eliyah.com/yhwhdss.html

Yahweh's name in the Dead Sea Scrolls

This is a photo of Psalms 119:59-64 in the Dead Sea Scrolls which are a collection of Hebrew Scriptures that date back 2000 years. Note Yahweh's name in the ancient Hebrew script while the rest of the text is in a more modern Hebrew that was used at the time. Also note that each line begins with the Hebrew letter "Heth" which corresponds with it's part in the acrostical 119th psalm.

Compare this to the Masoretic Hebrew Text:

Now in English
Psalms 119:56-64 (NKJV)
59 I thought about my ways, And turned my feet to Your testimonies.
60 I made haste, and did not delay To keep Your commandments.
61 The cords of the wicked have bound me, [But] I have not forgotten Your law.
62 At midnight I will rise to give thanks to You, Because of Your righteous judgments.
63 I [am] a companion of all who fear You, And of those who keep Your precepts.
64 The earth, O , is full of Your mercy; Teach me Your statutes.

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 12:24 AM
Peace & Blessings upon you synergy777!

Nice piece, and honestly, I was partly motivated to register, to post at this site, due to some profound mis-conceptions of the Book of Yahweh.

Yahweh, Yahshua and the Torah, though distinctly different entities, reflect each other from Genesis to Revelation without changing once.

Everybody wants to change the Book of Yahweh, because everytime you turn around it is in your face.

The Book of Yahweh, a beautiful piece of Music of Classical proportion, has been usurped, and been transformed into a horribly atonal and discordant racket!

Thank you for your positive input. Very Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 03:38 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

I appreciate synergy777 presenting enpointe materiel in a restrained manner.

As all materiel will be read and considered by myself, I, the 'Janitor' must due my duty, and correct errors, as I perceive them, as in conflict with 'Scholarship' concerning the Book of Yahweh.

I call 'Top of Post 70, page 7, subject: Tetra-Grammaton, into account for a grave lack of 'scholarship'. For Shame!

The Tetra-Grammaton is rendered correctly in the graphic above the text. It is the body of the text where error resides.

First Error: First line of text states "this is the name of the hebrew god'.
This is not correct as Yahweh is not a god. Historically proven with artifacts. Yahweh is a Superbeing who is 'Unique'

Second Error: Third line of text: Author informs readers that the Tetra Grammaton is composed of the 'Yod' character four times, this is incorrect, the Tetra-Grammaton is composed Yod Heh Waw Heh, three different letters, and Ironicaly, the graphic above the text supports this conclusion.

Hebrew is read from Right to Left. The 'Yod' is the first small character(glyph) on top right side of graphic: Yod, than Heh, than Waw, than Heh. Tetra-Grammoton

The Author also states the Tetra-Grammaton may be pronounced as jehova.
This is also incorrect. Since the Hebrew language Alephbet is composed of Consonants only, Vowels are added by scribes making small marks at the bottom of the letters, these are known as Dia-Critical Vowel Marks. This is were error comes in. As evident in the name jehova, there is an extra vowel(O) inserted into the middle of Yahwehs Name.

Through these marks, scribes have transformed the Tetra-Grammaton(Yahweh), into Names of others, Adonai,lord, Baal,El(god), even Elohim(many gods) all incorrect. Readers seeking amplification of this point, I direct to yahweh.com Indepth 'Scholarship' makes these points conclusively. First page of site yahweh.com Book of Yahweh section. Introduction.

I was observing some other posts in another thread, not surprisinly the discussion was central to the Book of Yahweh. Belive in jesus and you will be saved. This is erroneous. The point is: by using the correct name for the Messiah, the argument dissapears. Correct name of jesus: YAHSHUA, means, YAHWEH is SALVATION. jesus is not salvation, neither is Yahshua, Yahshua is our one and only Mediator', Proper Names and Titles of Office are important to reach greater understanding of this most important subject.

Beware the 'Lying Pens of the Scribes'

As always the readers must prove to themselves.

Good Evening and Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

synergy777
15-08-2007, 12:27 PM
snoop, its a honour and blessing to know you bro. for too long i have been on my own regarding yhwh/yashuah, thank you.

on the road to zion, what do you think of rastas. i know some of them are a bit misled with regards to some racial issues etc. but its the rastas, who have told me about the bible/nicea, the superbeing/creator aspect and not god. they don't even celebrate christmas, and see it for saturnalia, which it is.

yashuah ben yosef, all praises be.

also is it yashuah yahsuah yahshua.

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 01:33 PM
Peace & Greetings synergy777!:

Within 200 years of the J(ah)-Text creation 800-700 BCE, the E(lohist) text
appeared and through the use of Dia-Critical Vowel Marks began altering Yahwehs Name, the Tetra-Grammaton. The reason for these corruptions is based on an unfounded superstition of not saying or using Yahwehs name. Thus it became Lost.

Likewise with Yah-Shua, the word 'Shua' of course is 'will save' Yah is Yahweh, when they alter it to Ye-Shua they insert the pronoun 'He', so Yeshua reads, 'He will Save'

At the House of Yahwehs website, yahweh.com complete information concerning proper Names and Titles is provided in The Book of Yahweh section, the introduction sheds much Light upon this topic,

Notice to Readers: As could be expected, the House of Yahweh is continually reproached and excoriated for their beliefs and teachings.
I will tell you this, they will not accept just anyone as a member of their Congregation, they do Baptise, but only if the individual has proven this matter to themselves, through 'Scholastic' research, using vetted and sourced texts such as encyclopedias, Lexicons and other recognised research resources. 'Blind Faith' does not count!

Brother Synergy777, a Prophet of the Old Testament declared: Yahwehs Name would become great amongst the Gentiles, now is the Time of the restoration of His Name. May Father Yahweh Bless our understanding in this matter.

In one of my first posts in this thread, I reduced the Book of Yahweh to Six
Essential Elements, use these as 'Benchmarks, Baselines, Standards' for comparing whatever doctrines or theories are being presented. an example: If they speak not to the Laws and the Prophecies, there is no Light(legality) in them!

When I observe the Sikh Culture in its Pure form, one witnesses great Moral Character, likewise with authentic Yahdaim(people of Yahweh) what the 'jews' should be emulating.

Notice all the attacks of Yahwehs doctine never mention the development of Moral Character.

A People or Nation begin obeying the 'Sexual Mores' Laws of the Torah and in two or three generations, STDs will be eliminated. Likewise obedience to Father Yahwehs Laws concerning Marriage and Slavery, Homelessness is eliminated, Fatherless children become a flaw of the past, divorce is eliminated, removing, what for many spouses and children. is a traumatic and emotionaly stressful occurence.

Synergy777, I am delighted you understand, and since my skills with computers are so meager, I am limited to posting what I type.
Perhaps you could visit yahweh.com House of Yahweh and 'copy and Paste' some of their materiel, as it is backed by substantial evidence of Scholastic Research.

As I said in above post, the Book of Yahweh is a wonderful composition of Classical Music, rascals have corrupted the Text and Message beyond the bounds of understanding, confusing people, rather than enlightening.

From Genesis to Revelation, the Message is all about the Torah, the 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes.

Peace & Blessings be upon you!, My Kindest Regards: Snoopsnufflopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 01:56 PM
Brother Synergy777!

Your query regarding the Rastafarians requires a separate response.
I Posit: The Root of the Rastafarians resides in the account of the Ethiopian Eunuch who was instructed personally by a Disciple of Yahshua. The Ethiopian returned to his Land, and informed and instructed his fellow Ethiopians, on matters concerning Yahweh and His Plan.

To this day, there is a very devout and pious 'Sect' in Ethiopia, thus providing the foundation of Rastafarianism. It traces back to the Ethiopian Eunuch (Book of Acts 8:27). Did Haile Sallasie Keep and Teach the Laws of Yahweh?, I cannot say. Keeping(at least trying to) and Teaching Yahwehs Laws, without 'Oral and Written' traditions is the BENCHMARK.

With your help synergy777, this issue can be amplified.

This is the ONLY way to Peace in Palestine(Canaan), and ultimately to the Earth. The Keeping and Teaching of Father Yahwehs Laws, as the Legal Contract between Yahweh and the Yahdaim explicitly informs.

As you pointed out syn, many people have this Book, but they do not read or study, or ask Father Yahweh to 'Open their Mind', rather, they 'throw' a coupla bucks($) at someone else to 'Tell Them" what it says. The 'Irony' astonishes me.

My very kindest regards! Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
15-08-2007, 02:22 PM
The House of Yahweh predicted nuclear war to begin on September 12, 2006:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/15749/nuclear-war-begins-september-12-2006

"The House of Yahweh issued a news release in 2006-AUG stating that nuclear war will begin on SEP-12. The war will start around the Euphrates River. Their leader, Yisrayl Hawkins, says that the countdown to the nuclear war began with the signing of the Oslo accords on 1993-SEP-13. He interprets the Book of Daniel as stating that this is a seven year agreement but would take 14 years to be fully carried out. He interprets Revelation as implying that nuclear war will begin a year, a month and a day prior to the end of the Oslo agreement." http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_house.htm

synergy777
15-08-2007, 02:42 PM
could yahweh be a superbeing, like archangel michael, from the source/creator. it makes sense to have a structure eg source/creator = superbeings/angels = humans.

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 03:10 PM
Peace & Greetings kasalt!:

Thank You for providing this as it shall inform the readers. Elder Yisrayl Hawkins has been 'predicting' this since 1995 or 1997. He thought it may occur in the late 90s, than september 2006, more recently the 'Prediction', for 2007, always based on scriptural research. Since it has not occured, the 'Mocking and Disdain' has increased. Oh well.

My 'opinion' is: His 'prediction' of events that have not occured, does not diminish the Scholastic Research that is the 'Body of their Work'

Elder Hawkins went 'out on the skinny limb', and is incurring the consequences. The Doctrines he provides are not doctrines of 'fear', rather 'awareness'

Who wii deny? At this moment in time, numerous nations have arsenals of 'Armed and Ready' nuclear weapons, targeted at 'Peoples and Nations'.

The use of a fraction of these weapons will destroy all life on Earth.

'End of the Day' the only thing 'Carved in Stone' is the Torah, the rest is up to us, you and I.

Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-08-2007, 03:28 PM
Peace & Greetings synergy777:

I was approaching that issue in your Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread.

In a word: No. Reason: Father Yahweh, in the Book of Yahweh, is the 'Fountainhead', the 'Causal Force' of all Matter and Life in this Universe and the Kingdom of Heaven.

Before Yahweh created Human Beings, He created the Malakim(errantly termed angels)

Yahweh also created Cherubim, which are very Interesting.

Name for Michael should be Michayah, defined: 'Who is like Yahweh'

Note the text in Book of Jude verse 9 of the one chapter in this Book.

Book of Yahdah(jude) verse 9: Yet Micahyah, the Malak Gadol, when SHE contended with the devil in a dispute over the body of Mosheh(moses), did not dare to bring a reviling accusation against HER(the devil), but said: May Yahweh rebuke you.

There is much information in this one verse, be assured, the Malak Gadol Micahyah is subject to Yahweh.

Kind Regards Synergy777: Snoopsnuffleopagus

binhdinh_khiwarrior
22-08-2007, 10:32 PM
it's on mojo flix, just search guy summons ufo on mojo flix.

I have some empahc abiltiy and connect to energy very easily, what ever was inside the ship was fuckin strong, and i didn't like it, i could almost see him but didn't want my mind to get too close. i thik this my be part of the overt control tactic

fullfathomfive
22-08-2007, 11:03 PM
it's on mojo flix, just search guy summons ufo on mojo flix.

I have some empahc abiltiy and connect to energy very easily, what ever was inside the ship was fuckin strong, and i didn't like it, i could almost see him but didn't want my mind to get too close. i thik this my be part of the overt control tactic

That may be. But what are your thoughts on the Malak Gadol Micahyah being subject to Yahweh? :D

binhdinh_khiwarrior
22-08-2007, 11:22 PM
...fuckin scary.

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23-08-2007, 12:29 AM
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binhdinh_khiwarrior
24-08-2007, 06:45 AM
the reason i find it scary is coz the guy can actually make shit happen! do you understand what this means?

ok let me roll it out for you....

there's a guy, a nobody, but deeply religious-and so he studies , so deeply that he learns aramaic (a nice feat considering it's dead, japanese was hard enough for me!) and learns the meaning behind the pslams-which to my prior recollection are "spells" so to speak -and no im not talking about commonly held knowledge here in reference to psalms as spells- and guess what an alien turns up! bam! suddenly a voice is in your head-the dude who wrote the bible and probably planted the correct method of psychic communication within the spells- telling u shit. alot of religions say there will be a "Great Teacher" of sorts that will come, and everyone's heard of the false prophets n shit. dadada...false profits look crap, real teacher steps in-is an alien- takes over overtly?/brings peace and prosperity for all?.... the end im not so sure about, u guys with me??

kblood
24-08-2007, 07:39 AM
Aliens have been somewhat bothering me quite a few times in my life. I have forced them to come, but most I have seen or heard, are in fact humans in UFOs. Probably because they know I am very good at using astral travel, telepathy and so on, to search for them, when they are near.

Learning ancient languages is alot easier, if you can simply learn it from ancient spirits ;) Some times you could simply let a spirit with the knowledge of that language, possess you, and you should be able to speak that language. Or at least seem able to, since it probably wont be you talking, but the spirit.

I have tried this, with arabian I think it was. I even tried pronouncing what I knew he had said through others before. After letting him inside me again, I could say the words flawlessly. Very scary. Especially since I knew he then tried to possess the rest of my body afterwards. Emotions as well. I cannot recommend experimented with summoning the dead, or UFOs. The UFOs seems to want the best for us, but still, they do have secrets to keep. I do not know how far they will go to keep them. As for long dead ghosts... they can probably get angry, and might need to be exorcised again. I try to exorcise or "purify" every ghost I find. I try to do it by redeeming them. Making them forgive themselves, and then move on. Otherwise I would simply had to banish them, and I guess that could make them angry if it fails.

binhdinh_khiwarrior
24-08-2007, 02:32 PM
thats the problem ,once it is inside it dosn't want to leave! like getting a taste of a really good ice cream u don't wanna give it back! i stopped practising majik from books when i got to the summoning level sumthing inside told me i wasn't ready, and 10 years later wen i did get attacked and possesed (or at least it tried to) i realised that if it had happened when i was younger i probably couldn't do anything....lucky me

revolution 9
24-08-2007, 11:47 PM
I used to do that shit all the time and nothing ever bothered me. I cursed a co-worker once and he couldn't get a sale for like two weeks.

synergy777
25-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Peace & Greetings synergy777:

I was approaching that issue in your Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara thread.

In a word: No. Reason: Father Yahweh, in the Book of Yahweh, is the 'Fountainhead', the 'Causal Force' of all Matter and Life in this Universe and the Kingdom of Heaven.

Before Yahweh created Human Beings, He created the Malakim(errantly termed angels)

Yahweh also created Cherubim, which are very Interesting.

Name for Michael should be Michayah, defined: 'Who is like Yahweh'

Note the text in Book of Jude verse 9 of the one chapter in this Book.

Book of Yahdah(jude) verse 9: Yet Micahyah, the Malak Gadol, when SHE contended with the devil in a dispute over the body of Mosheh(moses), did not dare to bring a reviling accusation against HER(the devil), but said: May Yahweh rebuke you.

There is much information in this one verse, be assured, the Malak Gadol Micahyah is subject to Yahweh.

Kind Regards Synergy777: Snoopsnuffleopagus

there are some schools of thought that suggest archangel michael/micah etc is the spirit that came as yashuah. also remember the battle, the archangels against satan/fallen = 1/3rd of angels that rebelled against the creator = hence the masonic 33 degrees. the fallen angels came to earth, bred with earthwomen,created the nephilm. these fallen to me are the ancient astronauts/annunaki/flying serpents/icke's reptilians of legend/myth. also it is archangel miachael/micah that slew the devil/satan. michael is the general of the creators angelic army. its a heavyweight name, is you know scripture.

revolution 9
25-08-2007, 03:58 PM
It's mainly Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses that believe that.

binhdinh_khiwarrior
26-08-2007, 03:13 AM
I used to do that shit all the time and nothing ever bothered me. I cursed a co-worker once and he couldn't get a sale for like two weeks.

there are different levels of majik, what iv only realised now ture majik has no ritual andno form-i thin the book was illuminatti-to facilitate possetion of majikally talented ppl.

binhdinh_khiwarrior
26-08-2007, 03:19 AM
there are some schools of thought that suggest archangel michael/micah etc is the spirit that came as yashuah. also remember the battle, the archangels against satan/fallen = 1/3rd of angels that rebelled against the creator = hence the masonic 33 degrees. the fallen angels came to earth, bred with earthwomen,created the nephilm. these fallen to me are the ancient astronauts/annunaki/flying serpents/icke's reptilians of legend/myth. also it is archangel miachael/micah that slew the devil/satan. michael is the general of the creators angelic army. its a heavyweight name, is you know scripture.
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very inetresting i did not know that about the 33 degrees comming from the 1/3 that left the holy host! wow....i have a feeling what u said is correct. at least to some degree

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-08-2007, 04:46 AM
Peace & Greetings!:

Syn, I would have to say that Yahshua is a distinct separate Individual. He was not pre-existant to birth by Miriam.

I think Micayah is stiil in Yahwehs service. The Book of Yahweh distinguishes between the Loyal Malakim and the Rebel Malakim who become the 'gods'. Satan creating this 'Office' herself, to exalt herself above Yahweh. The 'Fallen Angels', are 'behind' most of earths ancient history. Lemuria, Atlantis, Sumeria, Babylon.

Considering Satan(hilel, lucifer, queen of heaven), as Yahwehs wife, estranged, makes perfect sense. Apply this to the Book of Iyob(job,persecuted), and it becomes clear. A domestic dispute. A spiteful spouse pulling Yahwehs 'chain'. The Book of Iyob(job) is astonishing for the amount of information one gleans about the mechanics of the Universe,
Deep personal loss, deep personal suffering, but always in relation to aspects of the Torah for instruction. The Book of Iyob could make a blockbuster movie.

Yahweh and Yahshua have their own personal Malaks, 'special forces'. Yahshua sent his personal Malak(messenger) to Yachannan(john) of Patmos, to transmit The Book of Revelation.

An interesting Fact of the Book of Revelation is the 'order of transmission'.
The source is Father Yahweh, This is all according to His Plan. Yahweh transmits the Book of Revelation to Yahshua, who transmits to His Personal Malak. This Malak(messenger) is dispatched to Yachannan of Patmos and transmits the Book of Revelation. Yachannan than puts the Book of Revelation to paper. About year 90, Common Era.

The Fallen Angels are the reason a 'Test of Spirits' is included in the scripture. The 'Test of Spirits':' If they speak not to the Laws and the Prophecies, there is no light in them'. Lets you know whos who. Cyrus the Great, a servant of Yahweh, Cornelius the Centurion, a servant of Yahweh, King Melchizedek a servant of Yahweh. Micayah, Malak Gadol, personal servant of Yahweh. Everything is about the Plan and the application of the Torah, every story in every Book of the Book of Yahweh(bible) illuminates Yahwehs Plan and His Laws. Every story. This is what is hated, the Torah, thats why it gets altered and watered down or done away with.

Like Thomas Jefferson said: Regardless of how emotionally or mentally disturbing, I must "know the truth' of the matter.

Syn, for gauging material concerning the Book of Yahweh, assess how they address the issues of The Law, and the Prophecies, Father Yahwehs Plan.

Satan and her rebel malakim(fallen angels) have been wreaking havoc about the Earth and the Universe for Eons, long before any men on earth.
All the Planets of our solar system are named after gods, all the days of the week are names of gods.

My next post will be about Adam & Eve, a Nexus of Time Moment.
As I stated above, every story is about Yahwehs Plans and Laws, this concerns coveting, unlawful desire.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

binhdinh_khiwarrior
26-08-2007, 07:48 AM
this yahweh probly did create us, but he is not the God, only part of it like us.....

revolution 9
26-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Please explain how God has a wife.

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-08-2007, 03:31 PM
Peace & Greetings!: binhdinh_khiwarrior,

What is the Ultimate Root Source? who knows.

According to Father Yahwehs Plan, humans are being trained to become part of His family. Humans will inherit the Universe after training is complete. The reason being: If Humans went out to the stars and other planets, they would still be the same assholes they were on earth. At this time, the assholishness of humans are confined to earth and the immediate solar system.

The humans who complete training and decide to be part of Father Yahwehs family and plan, will be transformed into spiritual beings with a Head, torso, arms, legs, eyes, mouth,hands....etc. No sickness, 100% use of the Brain/Mind Capabilities. The full human potential.

Yahshua Messiah(jesus) was an example of Father Yahwehs Plan for humans. Yahshua is the exact image of Father Yahwehs Laws, the Torah. He has 100% use of His Mind, thus what people perceived as miracles, or magic, is an example of what a human can do with 100% use of their Brain/Mind Capabilities.

Father Yahwehs Plan is for all humans to colonise and populate the Universe, living by His Laws. No human concieved laws will be allowed.

Keep in mind also: Father Yahweh and Yahshua Messiah can be considered as 'Iron Fists in a Velvet Glove', Wonderful, loving Beings, fully generous and helpful, if you obey. Disobey, and the velvet glove comes off.

Many will obviously say: oh, they need a big daddy,its polarity, the Carnal Mind vs. the higher mind. Good vs Evil, Right vs wrong... yet they do not speak of the solution, the Torah 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes, that develop a robust Moral Character that eliminates most problems.

No unwanted pregnancies, no stds, no homelessness, no starvation, no police forces, no militaries. The Transformed Humans energy will be used for positive productive output, enhancing the qualities of life for the benefit of all.

Mankind will be transformed from Hunters(one who expends the energy of another for the hunters benefit), to Shepards( one who expends his energy for the benefit of others).

I find it all to be actually 'Unique', in many ways. The Future certainly holds more promise utilising Father Yahwehs Plan, than the current Status Quo.

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-08-2007, 03:57 PM
Peace & Greetings reveolution 9!:

I posted the background information on that issue in the 'What is Satanism, exactly?' thread, in the satanist department. Long story made short. The Book of Ezekeiyl chapter 28.

The Malakim(messengers of Yahweh) were created before humans. They are both Male and Female. Hillel, was created a female Malak(messenger) of Yahweh. Yahweh selected her to be His wife. Made jewelry for her in the day of her creation. Married her on the Holy Mountain, and now being a wife of Yahweh recieved a Ministering Position with many beings and children under her Stewardship, she was to instruct them of the Laws of Yahweh. She sat next to Yahweh while she upheld His Laws.

Hillel is the 'Queen of Heaven', known also as Lucifer, Satan, Ashera, Venus

not Lillith though. Shes a whole nuther critter.

Read those posts in the Satan Thread and read your own copy of chapter 28. Understand this, and you understand the Book of Yahweh. It is all duality. Yahweh vs Satan Yahwehs Laws vs Mankinds Laws Carnal Mind vs Higher Mind. Righteousness vs Sin. The Status Quo(current state of affairs) is the Fruit of Sin

It does seem we are part of a 'Domestic Dispute',:eek: read the Book of Job with this perspective. This reminds me of an old oddity of two Beatles songs.

These were album songs, I forget which albums. Octopuses Garden and Maxwells Silver Hammer. Now being albums, there playing speed was 33rpms. Play those two tunes at 45rpm and they make more sense.

A 'Shift of Perspective'.

I think the Book of Yahweh is endlessly astonishing.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
26-08-2007, 06:13 PM
Peace & Greetings reveolution 9!:

I posted the background information on that issue in the 'What is Satanism, exactly?' thread, in the satanist department. Long story made short. The Book of Ezekeiyl chapter 28.

The Malakim(messengers of Yahweh) were created before humans. They are both Male and Female. Hillel, was created a female Malak(messenger) of Yahweh. Yahweh selected her to be His wife. Made jewelry for her in the day of her creation. Married her on the Holy Mountain, and now being a wife of Yahweh recieved a Ministering Position with many beings and children under her Stewardship, she was to instruct them of the Laws of Yahweh. She sat next to Yahweh while she upheld His Laws.

Hillel is the 'Queen of Heaven', known also as Lucifer, Satan, Ashera, Venus

not Lillith though. Shes a whole nuther critter.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus



Fantastic!!:)

Talk about syncroncity

Just last night mum and I were discussing the 'negative feminine' and it's

connection to the goddess symbolism ( I say negative but is it really?) she

saw in the masonic lodge during ladies night.

The conversation led to our wondering if lucifer was the feminine energy, the

morning star bringer of light. So what does this mean?

Also how does lilth fit into the picture?

Thanks for the post......gonna dust off me reading specs get down to some

Yahweh, could you direct me to the answers please Snoop?

:)

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-08-2007, 06:53 PM
Peace & Greetings!: lydia78,

Throughout the Book of Yahweh, the word 'light' is a metaphor for the Torah, the Laws. In the: 'What is Satanism?,exactly; thread, satanist department. I provide background on Satan(adversary, to the Torah), according to the Book of Yahweh. Hebrew phrase: Ben Schachar, can translate to 'pupil of the laws'

Lillith is Queen of the succubines and succubusses. Earliest references to her are Babylonian Talmud and later in the Kabbala.

Hillel(satan, lucifer, Queen of Heaven) led 1/3 of Yahwehs Malakim in rebellion to Father Yahweh, His Plan and th Torah. These 1/3 malakim are the fallen angels, who present themselves as gods and demons and angels.
Which is why the 'Test' is provided in scripture.

My next post will clarify Satan, like I did in the satanist thread.

The 'good, light' side and the 'bad, dark' side are both comprised of male and female Beings. More later, must work.

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
26-08-2007, 08:43 PM
Peace & Greetings!: lydia78,

Throughout the Book of Yahweh, the word 'light' is a metaphor for the Torah, the Laws. In the: 'What is Satanism?,exactly; thread, satanist department. I provide background on Satan(adversary, to the Torah), according to the Book of Yahweh. Hebrew phrase: Ben Schachar, can translate to 'pupil of the laws'

Lillith is Queen of the succubines and succubusses. Earliest references to her are Babylonian Talmud and later in the Kabbala.

Hillel(satan, lucifer, Queen of Heaven) led 1/3 of Yahwehs Malakim in rebellion to Father Yahweh, His Plan and th Torah. These 1/3 malakim are the fallen angels, who present themselves as gods and demons and angels.
Which is why the 'Test' is provided in scripture.

My next post will clarify Satan, like I did in the satanist thread.

The 'good, light' side and the 'bad, dark' side are both comprised of male and female Beings. More later, must work.

Kind Regards!: Snoopsnuffleopagus


Thanks Snoop will check out the satan thread

I have come to regard lilth alternately as goddess, a protective deity and

depending on what sources you agree with an evil spirit

The demonization of her somewhat resonates as a split between truth and

man made truth

It's all very interesting....cheers:)

revolution 9
27-08-2007, 03:24 AM
I'm not asking for the D&D version. I get all that. I'm saying, how can GOD have a wife? Or to put it another way, how can God HAVE a wife? How is it possible for an omnipresent, bodiless being to have a wife, and why do I have to actually explain why this isn't making much sense?

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-08-2007, 04:10 AM
Greetings and Salutations!, revolution 9:

The answers to your queries are in the first posts of this thread.
I use the word,'anthropomorphic'. This is considered to have the physical characteristics of humans: Head ona neck, eyes, hair, nose, mouth, torso, arms, legs. Like your body.

Yahweh is Male. He is Interdimensional & Intergalactic, with 100% use of His Brain/Mind.

This is not dungeons and dragons.

This is another uniqueness of the Book of Yahweh.

Yahweh is not a god, He is our Father,

Yahweh is not a gaseous blob of stardust with consciousness, He has a body, of which our bodies are like His, without His capabilities.

Revolution 9: This anthropomorphic business is a big part of the plot. Are you not impressed with the human body? Imagine, yourself with the demeanor, wisdom and capabilities of Yahshua Messiah(jesus). This is the fullness of human potential.

So Father Yahweh definitely wed Hillel(satan), and since the Laws allow polygamy, He probably has a few more wives.

I am now going to post on origins of Satan, as revealed in the Book of Yahweh.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-08-2007, 04:54 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

Now is the time to explore Satan, an important character in the Book of Yahweh. From the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelation, Satan plays an important and profound role. Satan is the 'Antagonist' to Father Yahweh, the 'Protaganist'.

The word SATAN is defined as: accuser, adversary, opponent. A 'generic' title.

In earlier posts, I presented the creation of the Malakim(messengers of Yahweh), these beings are also anthropomorphic, a body and form like ours. Like Father Yahweh they have Interdimensional & Intergalactic capabilities. And certainly more Brain/Mind usage. These beings were created male and female. It is from amongst the females Yahweh selected
a bride for Himself, a bride who would go on to forment a rebellion against Yahweh and take 1/3 of the Malakim with her.

One verse from the Book of Isayah reveals her name and status.

Isayah 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!

The word Lucifer is translated from the Hebrew word Hillyl (this beings original name). this word, hillyl, is derived from Hebrew root word Hallal.

Hallal is listed as word #1984 in Strongs Exhaustive Concordance, Hebrew Dictionary. Defined as: to make a show, to boast, to rave, to celebrate, give in marriage, sing, to be worthy of praise. This is amplified by the definition in The Lexicon In Veteris Testamenti Libros, page 235, defined as:a beautiful woman, a wife who is praised by her husband, a woman whose work praises her. This is further amplified by the definition in The New Wilsons Old Testament Word Studies: to be given to marriage, worthy to be praised.

Words have meanings and this is where the word Lucifer has led.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-08-2007, 05:17 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

To further investigate the verse from Isayah, we shall explore the phrase: son of the morning. This phrase is translated from the Hebrew: Ben-Shachar.

The word, Ben, is usually translated as: son; can also be non-gender specific: child. Also defined as: Pupils. The Analytical Hebrew Lexicon, page 95 supports this. The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon, page 709 informs us that when the word Ben is connected to an abstract noun, it denotes possession of a quality or virtue.

The word, Shachar(morning), is defined in the The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon, page 709, as: Light, also; by the Laws and the Testimony. The word, Light, is used several thousand times throughout the Book of Yahweh as a metaphor for the Torah.613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes.

Ben-Shachar can be translated: Pupil of the Law. Also as, Child of the Light.

This one verse in Isayah has revealed much; Lucifers given name, gender and training. Next Post:Yechetzqyah 28

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

revolution 9
27-08-2007, 03:45 PM
Greetings and Salutations!, revolution 9:

The answers to your queries are in the first posts of this thread.
I use the word,'anthropomorphic'. This is considered to have the physical characteristics of humans: Head ona neck, eyes, hair, nose, mouth, torso, arms, legs. Like your body.

Yahweh is Male. He is Interdimensional & Intergalactic, with 100% use of His Brain/Mind.

So your god is basically an alien?

Are you not impressed with the human body?

No, I'm not. The human body is poorly designed and unevolved.

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Peace & Greetings! revolution 9:

The word 'god' is a generic title of 'office', there are many gods both mortal and immortal. Yahweh is not a god. His title of office is Father/ Father Yahweh translates to Supreme teacher of Righteousness. He is a Super-Being. Satan also may be considered a Super-Being.

Is He an Alien? By no means. Yahweh created this Universe, it is His. He is not an Alien. If you were to see Him, He would appear as a mature Man with white hair and beard.

The Book of Yahweh is unique in many ways.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Addendum: Rather than the overuse of the word, 'god', try 'source', or 'fountainhead'

This is how Yahweh may be percieved: as 'original source', or 'fountainhead' of this Universe and Life and objects within it.

anticipated
27-08-2007, 11:14 PM
Hey snoopsnuffleopagus, I'm enjoying reading your posts. I played my maxwell and octopus mp3s on my comp sped up approx a third (133%) and I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary, no change of perspective. What do you hear?

Looking forward to more posts about yahweh and all that ;)

revolution 9
28-08-2007, 03:13 AM
How can a material being create the material universe?

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 06:38 AM
Peace & Greetings!, anticipated:

Thank you for your kind words, I am heartened that someone enjoys these posts. Nothing secretive or extraordinary is revealed by increasing speed of tunes, rather the 'perspective', is the Tempo of the music and the pitch of the vocals 'seem', more appropriate. The vocals should sound like: Alvin and the Chipmunks, I do not know if that means anything to you, but the Chipmunks were a Band of singing Chipmunks, in cartoonville. High Pitched voices. By increasing the speed sufficiently, the character of the tune changes.

Thank you and Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 06:42 AM
Peace & Greetings!, revolution 9:

I set the stage in post #8, of this thread, that, from the location of the Third Heaven, Kingdom of Yahweh, a 'Plane', or Dimension we cannot percieve, Yahweh created this Universe. He was outside of this Universe at the time of its creation.

revolution 9: The day will come when you may ask Yahweh yourself, as to 'How' He created this material Universe. Myself?, Colour Me!: Clueless. Yahwehs reputation is that of a Man with extraordinary creative abilities, governed by a Codex of Law, the Torah, 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes, which He composed and lives by. Father Yahweh enjoys the greatest endorsement of all time, His only Son, begotten in the 'Flesh', Yahshua(jesus).
Yahshua means: Yahweh is Salvation!.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 08:27 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

To further amplify the Character of the Being commonly known as Satan(adversary). We shall explore: Isayah 14:13-14 and Yechetzqyah(may Yahweh strengthen)ezekiyl. Chapter 28, various verses.

When Hillel(Satan, Lucifer, Queen of Heaven, Ashera, Venus, etc.), rebelled against Father Yahweh, she became Satan(accuser, adversary), and created the 'Office' of God(el), to rival or even surpass Yahweh, exalting herself above her Creator. This does make for some amusing verses throughout the Books.

This rebellion occurs before there was any Hominid Life on Earth.

Isayah 14:13 For you have said in your heart, I will ascend above the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of Yahweh. I will sit in the highest place on the holy mountains of the congregation.

14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.

Hillels error resides in her unlawful desire(coveting) for a 'Position of Authority designated for a Male Being'. She was unqualified for the position in many ways, and, it was not part of Father Yahwehs Plan.

Hang Fire

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

The focus of this post is Yechetzqyah(may Yahweh strengthen) 28

28:1 The word of Yahweh came to me again(channeling?), saying:

28:2 Son of man, say to that prince of Tyre, This is what Father Yahweh says: Because your heart is lifted up, and you have said; I am a god(el); I sit in the seat of a god(el), in the midst of the seas--I, Yahweh, therefore say to you: Yet, you are a created being, and not the Almighty, though you set your heart to be the Almighty.

28:9 Will you say to the face of him who slays you, 'I am God(el)?'. You will be but a created being, and not the Almighty, in the hands of him who slays you.

28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him; This is what Father Yahweh says: You were the seal of the full measure of perfection, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

28:13 YOU WERE IN EDEN, the garden of Yahweh; every precious stone was your covering; the ruby, the topaz, the emerald, the chrysolite, the onyx, the jasper, the sapphire, the turquoise, and the beryl. The workmanship of your settings and mountings were made of gold. In the day you were created they were prepared for you.

28:14v1 You are the anointed cherub that covers, for I have set you so. You were upon the holy mountain of Yahweh; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

28:14v2 You were the guardian cherub, and I married you on the holy mountain of Yahweh; you have walked up and down between the stones of fire.

28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until iniquity(sin) was found in you.

28:17 Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty, and have corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. I will cast you to the ground. I will lay you before kings, so that they may behold you.

verse 28:14 has a lot of 'meat on the bone'. The phrase, 'the anointed cherub that covers, reveals to us the position that Hillyl was given as a wife of Yahweh. Hillyl was anointed, ordained by Yahweh into a specific Office.
This is calling attention to the Cherubim with outstetched winged arms, on the Ark, that holds Father Yahwehs Tallit(shawl) when he sits upon it. The Tallit represents the Torah, Codex of Law. The cherubim are next to Him.
This was Hillyls job as a wife and helper to uphold and teach Yahwehs Laws, specifically to those placed under her as Yahwehs wife. Hillyl had direct access to Yahweh.

The phrase, 'I have set you so', as translated by The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon, page 678, derived from Hebrew word NATHAN: 'give woman to man as wife'. Which corresponds to her given name Hillyl.

The 'gender' issue does create pertubations in the pond. Recall the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, where an Opus of Michylangelo has been painted. The scene is the Garden of Eden, present are Adam, Eve; and Hillyl(Satan, da debil!), rendered as a female.

The phrase: prince of Tyre and King of Tyre are metaphors suggesting a 'Bigshot', a 'prince of demons'. Borne out by many verse; Isayah 14:12-17, ll Corinthians 11:13-15 Satan, at times for purposes of deception will pose as a male. No historical prince or king of Tyre, meet the criteria noted above: Presence in the Garden of Eden. Having a Ministerial Position with direct access to Yahweh. Yahweh did not create the most spectacular jewelry in the Universe for them.

Further posts will examine the "Queen of Heaven' and Ashera.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Addendum: All scriptural text is from the Book of Yahweh, from the House of Yahweh yahweh.com

Professor Kaufman of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem: commends the House of Yahweh for their excellent scholarship

I, Snoopsnuffleopagus, am not a member of this congregation. I admire their scholarship.

binhdinh_khiwarrior
28-08-2007, 11:33 AM
[QUOTE=revolution 9;109683]So your god is basically an alien?

um actually everyone's god is an alien, thats what he is saying (altho he wuldn't admit it, he uses the term superbeing) we in fact (from his perspective-are the aliens...we were made later) this yahweh is real, as to whether hge has enuff power to rule us is still to be seen, iv felt his presences didn't seem that all mighty to me...

revolution 9
28-08-2007, 04:51 PM
revolution 9: The day will come when you may ask Yahweh yourself, as to 'How' He created this material Universe.

Thanks for the detailed answer

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Salutations! revolution 9:

Think nothing of it, mon amie! :)

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
28-08-2007, 07:56 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

The 'Adam & Eve Event', 'The Forbidden Fruit'. A Nexus of Time Moment!:

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground, Yahweh, made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight, and desirable for food. The Tree of Life was in the midst of the Garden, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Righteousness and Evil was in the midst also.

2:16 And Yahweh commanded the man, saying: Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;

2:17 But of the Tree of the Knowledge of Righteousness and Evil you must not eat, for in the day you eat of it you will surely die.

3:1 Now the serpant was more subtle and crafty than any beast of the field which Yahweh had made. And she said to the woman; has Yahweh indeed said: You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

3:2 And the woman said to the serpant: We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden;

3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, Yahweh has said: You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, or you will die.

3:4 And the serpant said to the woman: You will not surely die!

3:5 For He knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be as gods(elohim), knowing Righteousness and Evil.

3:6 So when the woman saw the tree was desirable for food. That it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise. She took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

snoopsnuffleopagus
29-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

As I have stated in prior posts; The Torah, Codex of Law, 613 Laws Judgements and Statutes, are the focus of every story in the Book of Yahweh, from Genesis to Revelation. This is precisely the central thought in this story.

The Tree of Life represents the Torah, obedience to the Laws merits eternal life as part of Father Yahwehs family. The Tree may be considered as perfect righeousness. Yahshua Messiah says in Mattithyah(matthew) 5:48, to become perfect as Yahweh is perfect. This is true love

The Tree of the Knowledge of Righteousness and Evil, represents the ways of the gods. Not all bad, but not all good either. This Tree represents Babylon, which means confusion. Also considered a 'Gate of God(el)', also, 'Gate of Confusion'.

It was Hillyl(satan, lucifer, queen of heaven) who created the position of El(god) as opposition to Yahweh. Hillyl is God(el) number 1. The rest of Her Fallen Angels assume many other roles in their interface with humans.

What Satan was telling Eve, was, Her way was superior to Yahwehs, Eve would be empowered to do what she thought was right.

What Satan was actually presenting was covetnous, unlawful desire. As Satan Herself, as wife of Yahweh, had the finest of all resources and a position of authority, she desired more; resources and positions of authority that were not Hers to possess. She taught this to Eve. Eve taught this to Adam.

Before this dreadful occurence, Adam & Eve lived a Blissful Life in the Garden of Yahweh, every need satisfied by nature itself. They were one with the Earth and Father Yahweh.

A profound change occured the day Yahweh had Adam name the animals. Until then, Adam thought he was like them, just different. So he gathered the animals and the first one he named, he called a Unicorn. Yahweh liked this, so He touched the beast upon the head and a single horn grew from the Unicorns forehead, and Father Yahweh declared the Unicorn: Lord of All Beasts. Adam & Eve would ride the Unicorn through the Garden. Life was 'Good'.

Now Adam & Eve having consumed the knowledge of Satans way, 'realised' they were naked and were 'ashamed'. Yahweh noticed also and came to kick them out of the Garden. Yahweh brought Adam & Eve and the Unicorn to the Gate of the Garden, and placed Malakim with Flameing Swords at the Gate to prevent their return.


Appocryphal Anecdote:
Father Yahweh turned to the Unicorn, and said, 'You are Blameless in this sordid affair, you may remain in the Garden if you wish, or you may accompany Adam & Eve out into the world, where there is pestilence and war, and pain in childbirth and death'. The Unicorn looked at the Gate of the Garden of Yahweh, Eden, with Malakim with Flameing Swords guarding the entrance, turned and looked at Adam & Eve, and chose to accompany them.

Forever after the Unicorn was Blessed for its compassion. It could have remained in Yahwehs Garden, Eden, a place of ideal beauty and delight, but instead, out of Love, the Unicorn chose the hard way, the Human way.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
08-09-2007, 09:07 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen: Cordial Felicitations!

As I cyberstroll through the many Boards & Forums, There is much talk and referencing of the Book of Yahweh. More often than not it is mis-represented.
This is due to the nearly complete alteration of Texts & Doctrines, sowing confusion.

I have Posted: the Torah, 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes are the focus of every story in the Book of Yahweh, From the Book of Bereshith(Genesis) to the Book of Revelation. This is the 'Thread of Continuity'.

I will attempt to present some information on Yahshua(Yahweh is Salvation). The Man & Message of Yahshua Messiah has been Hi-Jacked and been transformed into a Disney World, Erzatz, Mithratic, Hellenized, opposite of what Yahshua actually taught, and was as a 'Being' (never a god).

More than 100 Prophecies are in Part 1 of the Book of Yahweh( old testament). These Prophecies provide very accurate details of when, where, how, the Messiah would be born and behave. Isayah said He would be a 'Sign' for all, Immanuyah, bringer together of the Congregation of Yahweh. For ALL Mankind.

Yahshua was trained in the Laws, and practised and taught the Laws. Christianity does away with the Laws. The Book of Yahweh, Part 1 & Part 2 (old testament & new testament). Part 1 (old testament) an adherent of Part 1, is Known as a Yahwist( Cyrus the Great was a Yahwist). An adherent of Part 1, and Part 2, is known as a Messianic Yahwist( also known as; non-normative judaism). It is the Messianic Yahwist who were slain in 10 Roman Persecutions, the Slaughters in the Colloseums. Christianity arose about 200 ce, after the House of Yahweh and its Peoples were wiped out. The Yahdaim(people of yahweh)(jews) where still 'Tolerated', yet exiled from Yahdah(judah)(Holy Land). It remains likewise today, adherents of Part 1, are tolerated, adherents of Part 1 & Part 2, which means we believe: Yahshua taught the Laws of Yahweh. This seems to 'Bug' everybodies mind.

To 'Prove' Yahshua taught, practised and obeyed the Laws of Father Yahweh is as simple as reading any page of the New Testament(part 2), hundreds, if not a thousand verses( even in the most corrupted translations), the 'Proof' is amply evident(hundreds of verses). So a complete fraud is pulled off right under everybodies noses. A total mis-representation. This is important because christianity does not inform the 'Seeker' of these Facts: Yahshua, an individual was Subject to Father Yahweh and obeyed Him in All Ways, by keeping and teaching His Laws.

It really is a simple Book, yet also the most complex, like Guitars, the easiest and the hardest instrument to play.

Friday Sundown beginning of Yahwist weekly Sabbath, until Saturday Sundown, 7th(number of completion) day of the week, converted to "Sun'day, 1st day of the week.
613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes for instruction, converted to christain Doctrine of 10 Commandments, of which christains are breaking themselves upon several of those 10 Commandments., Pagan Rituals instead of Yahwehs Seven Holy Feast Days for everyone, All Mankind. Lunar Calendar converted to Solar.

The Missionaries never taught Messianic Yahwism. Hence today there are over 800 sects of christianity. Babylon(confusion)(gate of god).

A Doctrine to dispel is the teaching: Yahshua( Yahweh is Salvation)existed prior to His birth, through Miriam, and the help of Yahweh, after all, this is Hillels(satan, Queen of Heaven Ashara, Astarte, Lucifer) World. Recall: there was a Mass Infanticide, many babies were slain in an attempt to prevent His teaching. Also a Mass Infanticide occured with the birth of Moses. 'Kill the Messenger(Malak)'. Yahshua was born according to Yahwehs Plan. Yahweh does state that: Nothing happens that is not part of the Plan; Yahshua was at that time, a Mortal Male, subject to all the urges and temptations that afflict all Humankind. Yahshuas benefit came from the instruction of Yahwehs Laws from Miriam, His Mother, and re-inforced and amplified by example His earthly Father, Yahseph. as is commanded in the Law. 'Teach your children the Laws of Yahweh'. Yahshua is an example of Yahweh in 'the flesh'. Yahwehs 'Character'. As noted in prior posts, Yahshua Messiah was utilising 100% of His Brain/Mind. Yahshua is not Yahweh. The Holy Spirit is a 'Force', not a Being. It is said, when one begins keeping the Laws and is Baptised Correctly, they recieve the Holy Spirit, and their DNA 'changes'. The Holy Spirit will not 'Dwell, Reside' in a Being not trying to keep the Laws of Yahweh. So when you are familiar with the 613 Laws, you may make an informed decision on whether or not a Doctine or teaching conforms to the Law. On whether or not the Institution in question are "Children of the Light', or 'Children of the Darkness'.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
13-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Shalom:


The Book of Yachanan Ben Zabdyah

Yachanan(Yahweh is Merciful) Ben(son of) Zabdyah(bestowed by Yahweh)

Also known as the Book of John


1:1 In the beginning was the plan of Yahweh, and the plan was with Yahweh, and the plan was Yahwehs.

1:2 The same plan was in the beginning with Yahweh.

1:3 All things were done according to it, and without it nothing was done, that was done.

1:4 In this plan was life, and that life was the light to mankind.

1:5 Now that light shines in the darkness, but the darkness does not take hold of it.

What is the Plan? To Create a Race of Beings that are like Him, Father Yahweh, in Appearance & Character. To Inherit, Colonize and Inhabit the Universe.

Governed by Yahweh, His Appointed Servants and The 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes.

Humans shall have rulership over the Malakim, the Faithful Messenger Servants of Yahweh.

The 'Ultimate Outcome' of the Book of Yahweh is quite 'Glorius' indeed.

AFTER, mankind 'screws the pooch' and 9 out of 10 humans are dead, due to Nuclear Warfare, Yahshua returns to defeat the remaining 'Forces of Evil'.

Yahweh Shamai (new Jerusalem) descends from the clouds to the Earth, and the rehabilitation of the Earths Eco-Systems begins immediately.

Through the use of Nuclear Warfare, mankind has made the Entire Planet unfit for Human habitation. Also DU-NDU, Prions, STDs.

Mankind itself is responsible for its own demise.

Shalom: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-10-2007, 08:50 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

The Book of Mattithyah(Gift of Yahweh)(matthew)

1:18 Now this is how the Birth of Yahshua Messiah came about: When His mother Miriam had been betrothed to Yahseph, and before they came together, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

1:19 Then Yahseph her Husband, being a just man, and not willing to expose her to public humiliation, had in mind to divorce her quietly.

1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, the malak of Yahweh appeared to him in a dream, saying: Yahseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miriam as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is through the Holy Spirit.

1:21 And she will give birth to a Son, and you will call His name Yahshua(Yahweh is Salvation); for Yahweh will save His people from their sins.

1:22 Now all this was done to fulfill what Yahweh had spoken through the Prophet, saying:

1:23 Behold, a virgin will conceive, and bear a Son, and will bring forth the sign IMMANUYAH-which means, to bring forth the sign that 'Yahweh of Hosts is With Us'.

1:24 When Yahseph awoke from sleep, he did as the malak of Yahweh had commanded him, and brought Miriam home to him as his wife.

1:25 But had no relations with her until she had given birth to her firstborn Son, and he called His Name Yahshua.

Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
15-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

The First Letter of Shaul(paul) to the Congregation of the Corinthians

13:1 Though I speak with the languages of men and malakim, but have no love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all deep secrets and all knowledge, and though I have all faith so that I can remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

13:3 And though I bestow all my possessions to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it is no advantage to me.

13:4 Love is patient, and is kind; love is not jealous; love is not boastful, is not puffed up with pride;

13:5 Does not behave rudely, does not seek its own advantage, is not provoked, thinks no evil

13:6 Does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;

13:7 Does not betray, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will be fulfilled; where there are languages they will cease, where there is knowledge, it will be replaced by complete truth.

13:9 For we know in part, and prophecy in part;

13:10 But when that which is perfect comes, then that which is in part, will vanish away.

13:11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

13:12 Now we are looking in a mirror that only gives a blurred reflection, but then, face to face with perfection. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully; even as I am now fully known.

13:13 But now these three things endure: Faith, Hope, and Love-but the greatest of these is Love


Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
18-10-2007, 05:14 AM
Dear Snoop

when will you realise that belief in God is not an academic excercise, to be used as a weapon to further your futile ego?

You sound like a cross between a lawyer and a computer.

Does this compute?

snoopsnuffleopagus
18-10-2007, 06:27 AM
Dear Snoop

when will you realise that belief in God is not an academic excercise, to be used as a weapon to further your futile ego?

You sound like a cross between a lawyer and a computer.

Does this compute?

Cordial Felicitations Fullfathomfive:

That is not my belief nor is it my intent.

Thank you for your insight and input.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

blue
18-10-2007, 09:09 AM
Humanity is amazing, even a quick glimpse of physical structure and systems of the human body is a universe in itself an that's not even touching on the mental, emotional and spiritual structures!!

Humanity is awakening, and that awakening is accerlerating.

Humanity has been duped, by too many Gods, Influences, Aliens, it is time we took back our power and I feel this is to be so.

Kind regards to you.

This is what we are here for, to take back our power. Great reply Lydia:):)

snoopsnuffleopagus
18-10-2007, 03:46 PM
Cordial Felicitations Blue:

Thank You, Blue, and Lydia for your insight and input.

For Clarification: My 'Belief' is: Father Yahweh is the 'Causal Force' of Creation of and in this Universe.

At this Time we are as: 'Clay upon the Potters Wheel'.

The actual information I have presented in this Thread is a 'Restoration' of Doctrines & Thoughts provided by the Book of Yahweh. This is not widely known or disseminated, at this Time.

Due to corruptions of the Translators & Scribes and Teachers, the actual information became distorted.

The Aim of this Thread is to Clarify where there has been confusion.

My last Entry, an excerpt from the Book of Corinthians speaks Enpointe as to our degree of completion as Beings. At this time we are partially completed Beings.

Evidence of this is provided by Scientific Analysis of the Brain/Mind Complex Capabilities. Also Human History.

The Book of Yahweh presents Yahshua Messiah as an example of Humanitys potential. A "Fully CREATED Being with 100% use of the Brain/Mind Complex Capabilities.

Again, Thank You Blue for your Time & Consideration.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

blue
19-10-2007, 05:35 AM
to snoop: considering the fact that humans cant utilize 100% potential of their brain, what will happen if they are able to do so?

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-10-2007, 06:42 AM
Cordial Felicitations Blue:

Briefly: Consider the emotional, character development as is common in Techno-Cratic Societies. Witness Adolescent Behaviour extending beyond the Teens well into the Years that were once considered Adulthood.

This Emotional and Character underdevelopment, COMBINED, with 100% use of the Brain/Mind would have catastrophic consequences for all Life on Earth. A 12 year old, in a fit of pique, would be able to destroy the Earth. Easily

Yahshua Messiah was TRUSTED by Father Yahweh not to mis-use this Power. Yahshua informed us, that upon our Transformation, when we use 100% of our Brain/Mind, WE would perform greater Feats and Acts than He, Yahshua Himself had performed at that Time: Walking on Water, changing Water into Wine, Healing the ill and infirmed.

To be TRUSTED by Yahweh requires the individual to realize the benefits of obeying Yahwehs Laws. The 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes. If one does not obey these Laws, they will not be part of Yahwehs Plan. At a future time, most Humans who ever lived will be given an opportunity to be Trained and Vetted.

Prior Posts in this Thread provide more information on the Plan(Post 120).

Blue, think of some people you yourself probably know. With 100% use of their Brain/Mind, without robust Moral Character, their nonsense would be amplified alarmingly, with negative consequences for many.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-10-2007, 07:48 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


PSALM 82

Yahwehs Judgement Against Satan, the Goddess (Elohim) of This World.


1: Yahweh stands in the assembly of the gods (elohim) and He gives judgement among the gods (elohim).

2: Yahweh says: How long will you defend the unjust, and show partiality to the sinners.

3: You should defend the weak and the fatherless! You should maintain the rights of the poor and the oppressed!

4: You should rescue the poor and the needy, and deliver them from the hands of the wicked.

5: You know nothing, you understand nothing; you walk about in darkness, and all the foundations of the earth are shaken because of you!

6: I have said: You are gods (elohim), you sons of the Most High;

7: And like Adam you will die. Just like all the other rulers, you will fall.

8: Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth! For You shall forcibly seize all nations!



Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-10-2007, 08:19 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

The 'Best' example of Yahwehs Character is Yahshua Messiah.

To 'Know' Yahshua is to 'Know' Yahweh.

Yahshua was Subject, and obeyed Father Yahweh in all ways. He kept and taught the 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes of the Torah.

He said: Be like Me.

That inspired many to kill Him.

Fullfathomfive posited: Belief in god is not an Academic Exercise.

That may be, I do not study the ways of the gods to the depth I study the Ways of Yahweh.

The Belief of Yahweh is an Academic Exercise, and as is the Nature of Exercise, the benefits are multiple.

To understand Yahweh requires careful reading of the Book Yahweh inspired to be written.

For those who have read the early Posts of this Thread: Recall: The Six essential Elements. These Elements are continuous Threads from the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelation.

The Book of Yahweh Parts 1 & 2 (old testament & new Testament) is the Doctrine of Messianic Yahwism, this is the Doctrine christianity usurped.

Compare the Translations of the well known examples of scripture in this thread.

Examine a King James 1611, Examine a Cambridge Bible, Examine a Jehovas Witness Bible.

Massive and vitaly important differences occur. Which one is right?

You have to study. J Text; E Text, D Text, P Text What's the difference?

You are required to 'Prove' to your own mind you understand.

Examine the: Book of Yahweh


yahweh.com

Of course, at this time, the gods (elohim) rule, we may all do as we damn well see fit. See Psalm 82

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 09:14 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


Matithyah (Gift of Yahweh) Chapter 5



5:1 Now seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain and sat down. His disciples came to Him.

5:2 And He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:

5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Yahweh.

5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they will be filled.

5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will obtain mercy.

5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see Yahweh.

5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers; for they will be called the sons of Yahweh.

5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the Kingdom of Yahweh.

5:11 Blessed are you, when men will revile and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake.

5:12 Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad, for greatest is your reward in Heaven, for in the same manner they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

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23-10-2007, 09:18 AM
Shalom & Kind Regards to You Snoopsnuffleopagus

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23-10-2007, 09:18 AM
And to everybody else here :p

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 09:25 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

FEAR.

FEAR YAHWEH

FEAR YAHWEH ONLY



Why?


Doctrine of the Book of Yahweh: Yahweh 'Created' all 'Souls' in this Universe.

Yahweh 'owns' all souls in this Universe

Yahweh says: Fear no man; they may kill your body but they cannot destroy your soul, only I, Yahweh, can destroy BOTH Body & Soul.


Fear may also mean: Respect

asin:

The fear of Yahweh is the beginning of wisdom.

Next Post will be a: Birds Eye Lo-Down

Unsugarcoated Doctrines of the Book of Yahweh that are not 'Politicaly Correct'. Oh well.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 09:40 AM
SHA LOM Dear edit:

:)

'But man in his Divinity I saw standing like a giant in the midst of Wrath & Destruction, mocking the anger of the earth and the raging of the elements.


Like a pillar of light Man stood amidst the ruins of Babylon, Ninevah, Palmyra and Pompeii, and as he stood he sang the song of immortality:


Let the earth take

That which is hers,

For I, Man, have no ending'.




Kahlil Gibran


Thank You, and, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 11:21 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Shalom:

"Every Planet has a Dark Side", Boris Blackshadow

Does Yahweh have a Dark Side? I say no! Yahweh has a Hard Side, a Resolute Side, that supports His 'Light' Side.

Example: Yahshua Messiah

Doctrines that are unpopular:

Yahweh is the Only Source of Power in this Universe.

Yahweh 'Owns' all the Souls.

It is Yahweh who Bestows Eternal Life. Eternal Life(immortality) is not a 'Given. Eternal Life is contingent upon obedience to the 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes of the Torah. It is upon the individual, after Proper Training from Yahwehs Official Representatives, asto whether they choose to be part of Father Yahwehs Family.

Re-Incarnation is not part of Yahwehs Plan.

Astrology is not part of Yahwehs Plan.

Homo-Sexuality & Promiscuous Hetero-Sexual Behaviour is 'Against the Law'.

Slavery, as practiced according to the Laws of Yahweh are beneficial to mankind.

Polygamy for males, as practiced according to the Laws of Yahweh are beneficial to mankind.

Father Yahweh loves BBQs, the Aroma, a little 'Fatty' Meat, Smoke.

Yahweh killed 80,000 Philistines in one night.

Father Yahweh in no way could be considered: A 90s kinda Guy.

Dietary Restrictions: No Swine, No Shell-Fish

A 'Strict Father'.

It's Yahwehs 'Way' (Torah) or the HiWay.

Everything for 6,000 years, from Adam, is to prepare Humans to inherit and populate the Universe. Governed by Father Yahweh and the Laws of the Torah.

This is the Book of Penultimate Social Engineering. With Yahshua Messiah as the Paradigm.

And at this time it is all Free-Will.

One BIG WARNING: Do not harm children & the 'weak'.

Yes!, a great deal of 'Thoughts & Doctrines' that many do not like, or desire to embrace.

Such is the Nature of mankind, at this time.

Shalom, & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-10-2007, 11:56 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Shalom:

The Book of Isayah (Yeshayah)(Salvation of Yahweh)


59:1 Behold, Yahwehs hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, nor His ear heavy, that it cannot hear.

59:2 But your own iniquities have separated you from your Father; and your own sins have caused Him to hide His face from you, so He will not listen.

59:3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken lies, your tongue has uttered perverseness.

59:4 No one calls for justice, nor does any plead for truth; they trust in vanity(& confusion); and speak lies,(scriptural untruths). They conceive mischief; and give birth to evil.

59:7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood; their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

59:8 They do not know the way of peace, and their is no judgement in their goings; they have made themselves crooked paths, whoever walks on them will not know peace.


Selah: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-10-2007, 08:37 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

The Torah: 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes created by Father Yaheh to instill 'Good' Moral Character into His creation: Human Beings.

Without 'Good' Moral Character, Human Beings would incur many 'problems'.

Wars, Famines, Pestilences.

Under the Governence of the Torah, ALL Human Beings would live in Peace & Harmony with one another and nature.

No Wars, Famines, Pestilence.

Yahshua Messiahs Position regarding the Torah.

Mattithyahyah (Gift of Yahweh) (matthew) 5:17-20


5:17 Do not even think I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to establish them.

5:18 For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh(the smallest of the hebrew letters), will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected.

5:19 Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh.

5:20 For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the kingdom of Yahweh.

Selah: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-10-2007, 08:52 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


Mattithyah 22:34-40

22:34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they came together.

22:35 And one of them, a Lawyer, an expert in the Law of Yahweh, asked Him a question, to test Him, saying;

22:36 Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law?

22:37 Yahshua said to Him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.

22:38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

22:39 And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

22:40 On these two commandments hang (depend); all the Law and the Prophets.


Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

fullfathomfive
30-10-2007, 08:37 AM
Hiya snoopsnuffleopagus

what's your take on the whole 'dualism' thing? Do you think this place was created by a demiurge?

snoopsnuffleopagus
30-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Cordial Felicitations Fullfathomfive:

Duality: Light-Dark

These are the Metaphors most commonly used in the Book of Yahweh.

These qualities extend well beyond the Realm of Five Senses.

The Book of Yahweh is quite rigid in its definition.


Children of the Light are those who are obedient to Yahweh by recognising and obeying Yahwehs Laws.

Children of Darkness do not.

Yahwehs plan is for most Humans to become Children of the Light, so they may inherit and populate the Universe.

There is behaviour amongst Humans on this Planet that would not be welcome elsewheres.

Yahweh is one, He declares He is Unique, He alone created THIS Universe, and this is His plan that is being worked out.

My Mysteries: The Kingdom of Heaven, another Dimension or Plane of existence we cannot perceive.

My Question: The Kingdom of Yahweh is Located in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Are there other Kingdoms of Beings in the Kingdom of Heaven? (shruggy emoticon)

The Book of Yahwehs primary goal is Social-Engineering.

To learn and obey the Torah.

The Traditions of the Talmud are not neccessary, and some of them are flawed.

Gnosticism is conjecture, alot is based on Kabbalism

Kabbala: Suggested to have 30+ years of Torah studies before studying the Kabbala.

Father Yahwehs premise is: Obedience to the Torah will promote Loving Kindness and Unconditional Love for all Humans, Creatures and the Earthly environment.

The Torah is the Battleground.

Personally, I 'See' and 'Understand' the Wisdom of this Codex of Law.

Many others are appalled and shocked by the Laws.

In the Fullness of Time, all will be made clear.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
06-11-2007, 04:11 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

I have extended an invitation to tintin & vera susa to 'stop by' and discuss aspects of the Book of Yahweh.

vera susa has a different understanding of the matter at hand.

Examples: Moses led the Hebrew Tribes from the Continents of North and South America to Australia during the time when Earth was Super-Continents.

The Time-Lines, Births & Deaths of Characters in the Book are inaccurate and of no value.

They are not advocates of the Torah as a Tool to develop Moral Character.

I have desired that vera susa would begin a Thread devoted to 'Australia is Zion'. Instead she: Drip,Drip, Drips little bits & pieces of her beliefs into whatever Thread she is engaged in.

Examine the works of tintin & vera susa: Neuro Linguistic & Visual Programming.

What is their Message?

Australia is the Promised Land to be inherited by who?

Stay Tuned Peeps.

A 'Hot' Wind is gonna blow!

Shalom: Snoopsnuffleopagus

anticipated
06-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Interesting read. May I ask what is your understanding of what will happen to people not abiding by the laws given in the book of Yahweh? Is hell real? Is it of any use to read the King James Bible?

Sorry if you already answered these Qs, but I think I read all the pages during the last few months.

Oh, one more thing. What lead you to the David Icke forum?

best regards.. keep it up

snoopsnuffleopagus
06-11-2007, 08:55 PM
Interesting read. May I ask what is your understanding of what will happen to people not abiding by the laws given in the book of Yahweh? Is hell real? Is it of any use to read the King James Bible?

Snoops: Cordial Felicitations Anticipated:

1: This is why there is two Ressurections, 1,000 years apart in time.
All Humans who have died are 'Asleep' until the First or Second Ressurection.

The First Ressurection includes all who have been informed of Yahweh accurately. This is a tiny percentage of all humans that have lived. There will be a Judgement and some will be acquitted, some will not.

The 'Not-Aquitted' will have their Soul extinquished.

The Second Ressurrection (1,000 years later) includes all humans who ever lived who were NOT accurately informed of Yahweh. At this time, from servants of Yahweh, all will be instructed accurately for 100 or so years.

At that time, after your Training, you yourself will have a decision to make: Be a part of Yahwehs Family, Governed and Living by the Laws of the Torah.

If you choose no, your Soul will be extinquished, this is known as the Second Death, which is permanent.

You will examine 6,000 Years of Humanity living with an abscence of Yahwehs Laws.

1,000 years of Humanity living with Yahwehs Laws.

As for Hell: No, not the Hollywood or classical literature type. Yahshua does advocate suicide to those who would hurt children and the weak,so the worst will be punished. Those who do not wish to inherit & inhabit the Universe under Yahwehs Governance will be extinquished.

He wants ALL HUMANS singing from the same sheet of Music.

This is a 'Tough' Book and I will not 'Sugar Coat' it.

The KJV, with its mistranslations and additions and subtractions STILL has the 'Message' of obedience to the Law, from Genesis to Revelation.

Should you have the Time & the Inclination: Read both the Book of Yahweh and the KJV side by side. You will be favourably impressed. And your understanding will grow.

I like ICKE. An affable & sincere man. I have read several of his books and enjoyed his videos. One Forum leads to another. I was an 'Thoughtful Observer', on the old Forum.

My first Post in this Thread declares my intention. Establish some Bench Marks & Base Lines. For comparison.

Thank You for your interest & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus


Anticipated: Sorry if you already answered these Qs, but I think I read all the pages during the last few months.

Oh, one more thing. What lead you to the David Icke forum?

best regards.. keep it up .

anticipated
07-11-2007, 12:38 AM
Thanks for your reply. I think I will actually get my hands on this book of Yahweh. My mission in life is to get to the bottom of human history and the big why. My current view of the bible is that I hate the 'God' in it. And it is all very confusing. I don't have the brainpower to determine which 'holy' scriptures are real and which are not. I never read the Koran, or the bhagdavita (sorry for bad spelling), so I cant really judge. I thought I'd start by reading the Bible really carefully.

How could Yahweh, who I understand to be perfect, create something which is not; Satan (I think you referred to Satan as Hillyl or something in an earlier post. I'm just not good at remembering names :)

Thank you!

synergy777
07-11-2007, 02:02 AM
satan has free will, like all of us, you can choose to be good or evil.

he chose evil so he could gain control, power and become like the creator/father, eg worshipped.

hence his followers follow his methods and aims, power, control, etc.

wheras satan wants our power/spirit, wants to control us by fear or giving us what we desire.

the creator/father/source gives us power and wants us to be empowered, free and to live in love and peace.

octopusrex
07-11-2007, 04:32 AM
66 books in the Bible

How many times is Satan named?

How many is Yahweh?

Where your mind goes, there goes your heart.

snoopsnuffleopagus
07-11-2007, 07:01 AM
Cordial Felicitations Anticipation:

A Wise decision. The burden is upon you to Prove this information to yourself.

Another Doctrine of Yahweh that is contrary to contemporary ideas is: The Mind must rule the Heart. You are to Prove Yahwehs Doctrines to your own mind.

Current trends are teaching the Heart must rule the Mind.

I think both Schools of thought honor 'intuition',

You will enjoy the Book of Yahweh, from........... yahweh.com


Have you examined the sample pages on the yahweh.com webpage?

First Page of Genesis and the First Page of the Book of Yahchannan (John)

What amazes me is how Roman Catholic Clergy, who should be expert in this Book, raped Children.

They must know the Verses where Yahshua advocates suicide before harming a child. These people are crazy.

Whatever you choose to study, I wish you well, you present yourself as sensible and cautious, these are fine qualities.

Comparitive religious studies are neccessary and your caution and intuition will serve you well.

Even College Level Texts can be rife with error.

But the Main Thrust of the Book of Yahweh is to instill 'Good Moral Character'.

By not being sexually promiscous you may avoid: contracting a Sexually Transmitted Disease.

Emotional Distress when an unstable Relationship fails.

Not Coveting others possessions, working for what you want and achieving your goals by honest methods.

It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance Anticipation, please inform me if you do get a Book of Yahweh.

I have noted a few other Posters quoting the Book of Yahweh.

An excellent addition to any Library.

Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
07-11-2007, 07:14 AM
Cordial Felicitations Synergy777:

Good to see you back Mon!

The Journey, even when it is Brutal is still Beautiful.

My Sister suffers from Terminal Breast Cancer yet she has remained Stalwart in the face of constant pain and suffering.

Is it neccessary to suffer to be truly beautiful? She is.

Yahwehs Plan is for all of us to 'witness' 6,000 years of History under Satans rule, than, after the First Ressurrection, 1,000 years of Yahwehs Rule.

This will be an interesting comparison.

There is an Entire Universe to Inherit & Inhabit, we shall have rulership over the Malakim.

Syn: the Greeks have a word: Agape; Ah-gah-pe

Unconditional Brotherly & Sisterly Love.

This is the Ultimate Future.

Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
07-11-2007, 07:32 AM
Hola! & Cordial Felicitations, Octopusrex:

Interesting points!

Consider: Most translations remove or alter (jehova) Yahwehs name. so much so it is barely known even today, and often misunderstood.

Yahwehs name should appear more than 5,000 times, as it is also used in combinative form: Yahshua=Yahweh is Salvation.

The Role of the adversary is to decieve. To steal worship due to Yahweh.

So who is being worshipped today on Sunday mornings, at Easter, on Xmas.

Try the Lords Prayer' on anyone.

'Our FATHER, who is in Heaven, Honoured is Your Name':

Well, there is Yahwehs Title of Office: FATHER

Ask anyone what His Name is, 90% do not know. They usually say: God

Father Yahweh can be translated as: Supreme Teacher of Righteousness

Few people are aware of this.

My intent of this Thread is to Share.

Shareing is Careing :)

Nice to meet you Octopusrex! I have enjoyed your postings.

I love Mexico, I lived in Vera-Cruz in the late 70s.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

h1s_l0rdsh1p
07-11-2007, 07:41 AM
Whom is to say all of this is true?
The Catar Gnostics, like many "Christian" gnostics before them believed that Jesus had come to save them FROM GOD.

The one of this world, being a creature that was born too far from the true God of Love, never truely saw the light, and became ignorant of his origins, and trys to mimick the true God's creation.
Which is why we have suffering. Get it?

The only reason this is not believed, is because the of Catholic Supremesy.
(My apologizies for my spelling. It's still early)

snoopsnuffleopagus
07-11-2007, 08:36 AM
Cordial Felicitations Your Royalness:

This Thread is not to make the case that the Book of Yahweh is True.

This Thread attempts to present the actual Thought and Goal of the Book.

Have you heard of the Plan of Yahweh?

It is endorsed by the actual historical figure Rabbi Yahshua the Messiah.

The Crux of the Crux of the Crux of the Book is the Torah.

Does it apply to all?

Is it still in effect?

90% of the various Sects and Advocates of the Book of Yahweh dismiss the Torah.

Read just the last few pages of this thread and you will read Yahshuas opinion of the Torah.

This knowledge will enable you to discern Classical from Jazz.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
07-11-2007, 09:09 AM
I thought some here might find this interesting. It is a quote from a 19th century book called Tattva-vivek by an Indian guru named Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura. In this passage, he describes what he perceives as flaws in Christian doctrine.

Quote:

Some philosophers say that because of the first living entity's sin all the other living entities are imprisoned in the material world. Later, punishing Himself for their sins, God delivers the living entities.

Deliberating on the virtues and faults of this world, some moralistic monotheists concluded that the material world is not a place of pure happiness. Indeed, the sufferings outweigh the pleasures. They claim that the material world is a prison to punish the living entities. If there is punishment, then there must be a crime. If there were no crime, then why would there be any punishment? What crime did the living entities commit? Unable to properly answer this question, some men of small intelligence gave birth to a very wild idea. God created the first man and placed him in a pleasant garden with his wife. Then God forbade the man to taste the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Following the evil counsel of a wicked being, the first man and woman tasted the fruit of the tree of knowledge, thus disobeying God's command. In this way they fell from that garden into the material world filled with sufferings. Because of their offense, all other living entities are offenders from the moment of their birth. Not seeing any other way to remove this offense, God Himself took birth in a humanlike form, took on His own shoulders the sins of His followers, and then died. All who follow Him easily attain liberation, and all who do not follow Him fall into an eternal hell. In this way God assumes a humanlike form, punishes Himself, and thus liberates the living entities. An intelligent person cannot make sense of any of this.

To accept this mixed-up religion one must first believe these rather implausible things: "The living entity's life begins at birth and ends at death. Before birth the living entity did not exist, and after death the living entity will no longer stay in the world of material activities. Only human beings have souls. Other creatures do not have souls." Only extremely unintelligent persons believe this religion. In this religion the living entity is not spiritual in nature. By His own will God created the living entities out of matter. Why are the living entities born into very different situations? The followers of this religion cannot say. Why is one living entity born into a house filled with sufferings, another living entity born into a house filled with joys, another living entity born into the house of a person devoted to God, and another living entity born into a wicked atheist's house? Why is one person born in a situation where he is encouraged to perform pious deeds, and he performs pious deeds and becomes good? Why is another person born in a situation where he is encouraged to sin, and he sins and becomes bad? The followers of this religion cannot answer all these questions. Their religion seems to say that God is unfair and irrational.

Why do they say that animals have no souls? Why do birds and beasts not have souls like human beings? Why do the human beings have only one life, and, because of their actions in that one life are rewarded in eternal heaven or punished with eternal hell? Any person who believes in a truly kind and merciful God will find this religion completely unacceptable.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:BjMKjGzYC-EJ:www.krishnamedia.org/e-books/Tattva-Viveka.pdf+Tattva-vivek&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Comments?

snoopsnuffleopagus
07-11-2007, 09:23 AM
Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:

Thank you for providing this thought>

The Author is entirely off the tracks, and is surmising what he thinks without a correct understanding of the Book and its Doctrines.

First: The Book of Yahweh is the Opposite of Christianity.

Yahweh did not descend to Earth as Yahshua.

There are two trees: The Tree of Life, Yahwehs Tree

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Satans Tree

No Book is more mis-understood than the Book of Yahweh.

Yahshua actually has nothing to do with any sect of christianity.

Yahweh is not a god.

Rabbi Yahshua Taught the Torah, He Taught all to be obedient to Our Father Yahweh by obeying His Laws.

Then there would be 'Peace on the Borders and Rain in its Season'.

There is Specificity to Yahwehs Plan.

Most Christians are not aware of this.

Thank You again & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Kasalt: The information presented has for the most part been addressed by this Thread.
The Author presents arguments that are Ficticious, and then declares it unacceptable.

Read this Thread and prove it to yourself: The Author seems to be an Eastern version of Bushby. 2nd to last line. Addressed a couple of times. Complete Falsehood.

drael
23-11-2007, 06:30 AM
Tree of life :wholism/monism/wholistic duality aka yin/yang, faith, love, life.

Tree of knowledge of good and evil: judgement, heirarchy/power, critical thought, fear, envy, hatred, babylon, death, duality.

Both books fairly similar in message about threatening god authority, and claiming knowledge of "good" and "evil" above god.

Very similar to the egyptian symbols of life and death IMO.

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-11-2007, 04:11 PM
Cordial Felicitations Drael:

The Book of Yahweh provides a great deal of Specificity as regards the Doctrines it is a 'Vehicle' for.


Eternal Life is not a given. There is no Re-Incarnation.

The Entire History of the Universe is according to a Plan, Yahwehs Plan.

To Create a 'Race' of Beings that are like Him, to Inherit & Inhabit the Universe.

Before Human Beings will be ALLOWED to Inherit & Inhabit the Universe they must be Trained to become like Yahweh in Character.

An example of this Character is Yahshua Messiah (jesus).

Obedience to the 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes of the Torah is the Key.

This WILLING obedience will result in Eternal Life.

THIS is what the Tree of Life represents in the Book of Yahweh

The Tree of Righteousness & Evil is of course a Mixture. Some of Yahwehs Laws(righteousness) and some of whatever the Hell strikes your Fancy.

The Duality occurs in the Mind.

The Tree of Life is your Higher Mind, that of the Shepard(Yahshua), expending your Energy to benefit others.

The Tree of Righteousness & Evil is your Carnal Mind, that of the Hunter,expending the Energy of others for your own benefit.

Lustings, Covetnous are the Fruit of the Tree of Righteousness & Evil.

These two deficiencies of Character are Root Causes of much of Todays challenges.

We must overcome our Base, Carnal Desires and Honour our Higher Mind, thus Honouring all those around us.

All the Wars & Mayhem and Calamities recounted In The Book of Yahweh occur according to His Plan, to develop Robust Moral Character in Human Beings so that they may Inherit & Inhabit the Universe, and not F**K It Up like they did Planet Earth.

Messenger Drael: As you see, there are similarities, yet, vast & profound differences.

Thank You & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

drael
24-11-2007, 07:29 AM
Well, there certianly are differences. For me the tree of knowledge of good and evil is about "knowledge" of "good and evil". When the apple was eaten, suddenly it was perceived to be a sin to be naked, before this there was only the innocence of the tree of life. For me, anyone that claims to know what is true, anyone that judges, anyone that creates "sin" through there judgement is eating of the tree of "knowledge" of 'good and evil". For me, carnality existed naturally in innocence before the discovery that it was "wrong". I would say your judgement of carnality is from the tree of "good and evil". Just like when jesus says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". The tree of life is reality, the way it exists, no matter how messed up, you must accept life, reality beyond your judgements.

The tree of life is like the innocence of animals and humans without corruption. The tree of knowledge of good and evil is like the jadedness of humans corrupt with duality, the idea of knowing a truth beyond the pure wisdom of god. Of course YMMV, but the truth of the stories of babylon, job and the garden of eden are simple and clear to my reading - do not assume you are right/better/smarter than God, only god can Judge the human soul.

Personally for me, there is no story of carnality in the bible. There is the story of arrogance against god. If the stars should desire to mate, i would not avert my eyes, they would be captivated, in awe. If a man decides to mate it is the seed of life, not of sin. Only in "knowledge" of "good and evil" can one judge such matters to be wrong.

There certainly are vast difference, brother. But study of the mystery is the begining, for both of us either way.

snoopsnuffleopagus
24-11-2007, 03:01 PM
. . But study of the MYSTERY is the begining, for both of us either way.

Cordial Felicitations Drael: Right here is the 'CORE' of the Matter: The Book of Yahweh is not a Mystery. There is provided enough detailed Specificity as to dispel any Doubts as to what the 'Message' is.

The Prophet Isayah informs us HOW to read this Book to understand: 'Precept upon Precept upon Precept'.

'Line upon Line upon Line'.

'Here a little and there a little'

Any questions concerning a particular Story or Doctrine will be answered by Verse of Scripture themselves, scattered throughout the Book from Genesis to Revelation.

This results in 'Absolutes'.

For example, definitions:

Righteousness: Keeping of the 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes of the Torah. Yahwehs Standards of Conduct.

Sin: Transgression of any of these Laws of the Torah

You say there is no Carnality in the Bible: What of King Davids unlawful desire for Bathsheba, Uriahs Wife?

Even arranging the Death of Uriah

This is a vivid example of Lust and Covetnous, resulting in Tragedy, Sorrow & Separation. This is the Fruit of Carnality.

Judgement is Discernment. This is what Humans do.

Condemnation is to be eschewed as much as possible.

By the definition of Sin above, we can say: 99+% of all Humans are sinners, so drop the Stone.

We must still Judge & Discern so as to make Decisions.

The Two Trees are Allegories which I Presented some Posts and Pages ago.

The Tree of Life represents Yahwehs Government built upon the Torah, which He Himself Composed before Humans were Created.

The Tree of Righteousness & Evil is Hillals(satans) Tree representing a Mixture. Some 'Good' & some 'Bad'.

The ramifications of the 'Bad' we Witness in every waking moment of Life.

Wars, STDs, Pollution, Separations of Family Members, Greed.

Sin brings Curses.

Matithyah 4:4 ....Man does NOT LIVE by bread alone, BUT by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh.

This is a direct quote from the Torah.

Deuteronomy 8:3 So he humbled you and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you did not know of, nor did your fathers know of it; so He might make you to KNOW that man does NOT LIVE by bread only, but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the MOUTH OF YAHWEH, does man LIVE.

LIVE>Hebrew>Chayah=give(promise)life, Quicken, restore to life

word #2421 Strongs Exhaustive Concordance Hebrew Dictionary.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
24-11-2007, 07:01 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Shalom:


Galatians

5:13 For you were called into liberty, brothers, but not liberty to be instruments of carnality; but through the love of Yahweh, serve one another.

5:14 For truly, everything in the Law through the plan of Yahweh, has been accomplished through this: You will love your neighbor as yourself.

5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering; patience, kindness, righteousness, The Faith;

5:23 Meekness; (gentleness, humility), temperence; (self-control)-such things are not against any Law.


5:24 And those who are the Messiah's have sacrifised the flesh; (the carnal mind), with its passions and lusts.

5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

5:26 Let us not become full of empty pride and ambition, not challenging nor defying one another, not being jealous of one another.





1 Timothy

1:5 Now the ultimate result of the Law is: love out of a pure heart, a clear conscience, and unfeigned; (genuine), faith.




Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

drael
25-11-2007, 03:05 AM
Hmm. Good quotes; interesting.

Although i dont have time now to dig out any bible quotes (ill have a look for some latter perhaps) ...let me be clearer on my interpretation of the bible.

What i am saying is before the tree of knowledge of good and evil, there was no _concept_ of sin. Before the concept of sin, there was no actual sin, no carnality & we lived in peace (That is to say, it was not merely the name that was missing, but the whole thing) . This is because we accepted the authority of God, and lived under his guidance (In the garden of eden). We did not claim to know gods will, we listend to "him" rather than our own words and interpretation. Back then there was no need for a bible.

Now i dont personally beleive moral living can be spelled out into a set of rules, but the authority of god/lust/sefl-lessness are certainly themes of the bible. In fact, to my reading merely following a set of rules and guidlines is the anti-thesis of following gods rule, after all the bible is written by humans and anyone can use their higher principles and listen/speak to god. This kind of thinking can be found a few places in the bible. But you may disagree here. There are certainly parts of the bible very heavy on rules, if you read the bible literally and take it all as the word of god. But that has its own problems, ie you have to sacrifice sheep or whatever, and many places conflict (one quote will say we can speak to god to figure out whats right, another sets out a bunch of rules, one place demands animal sacrifices, another condemns the pratice)

However i agree that christs example of selflessness and non-materialism is the example set forth by the bible. Certainly the bit about the eye of the needle and a camel comes to mind, in terms of materialism. In mysticism and eastern religion, one of the primary rules is detachment, freedom from want and the flesh. It is a common theme across religion, and no doubt is part of the original mystery teachings.

As for the bible not being a mystic text, i personally disagree. The bible is full of poetic and coded language, it is certainly not all literal (take genesis, proverbs or the many proverbs jesus taught, and a host of other parts).

Mystery/mysticism does not mean open to any interpretation, or secret , it simply refers to symbolism and symbols, which are supposed to be universal, not subjective (and also a way to think about truth). I dont think anyone doubts that the bible contains symbols and symbolic meaning.

Whatever is not coded in the bible is IMO under suspicion anyway because of editing and manupulation of the text by the NWO. If the bible were true and literal, it would be a prime target for manipulation by anyone in control. This is why i reckon the bible is full of specific rules, and we are encouraged to take it literally by the church, so no one reads the mystery within.

Did a quick search for quotes on interpreting the bible and found this which i like: (i like all of job actually)

Job 34
1 Then Elihu said:
2 "Hear my words, you wise men;
listen to me, you men of learning.
3 For the ear tests words
as the tongue tastes food.
4 Let us discern for ourselves what is right;
let us learn together what is good.

But actually reading the bible I have to say alot of it is about old prejudices between religions and old moral systems. There is some great symbolism, and some good stories and poetry, but it is scarce compared with the stuff that seems largely cultural and time-period based. Still a great book, but equally filled with what is fairly nonsense to me. Youd probably quite like all that stuff im dismissing, so YMMV!

As a side note, i dont really understand how "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" becomes "the tree of some good and some evil"/satan. Isnt satan the snake (why have two completely seperate symbols for satan?) Is this a translation issue? It seems your veiw of the eden story is fairly interpretive and also quite specific, unless im missing some information....My reading of the story of eden seems downright simple next to yours, and yet you also say the message of the bible is completely clear. How is it we can disagree about the message then, if it is clear?

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-11-2007, 04:54 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Shalom:


The Book of Yachanan Ben Zabdyah

Yachanan(Yahweh is Merciful) Ben(son of) Zabdyah(bestowed by Yahweh)

Also known as the Book of John


1:1 In the beginning was the plan of Yahweh, and the plan was with Yahweh, and the plan was Yahwehs.

1:2 The same plan was in the beginning with Yahweh.

1:3 All things were done according to it, and without it nothing was done, that was done.

1:4 In this plan was life, and that life was the light to mankind.

1:5 Now that light shines in the darkness, but the darkness does not take hold of it.

What is the Plan? To Create a Race of Beings that are like Him, Father Yahweh, in Appearance & Character. To Inherit, Colonize and Inhabit the Universe.

Governed by Yahweh, His Appointed Servants and The 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes.

Humans shall have rulership over the Malakim, the Faithful Messenger Servants of Yahweh.

The 'Ultimate Outcome' of the Book of Yahweh is quite 'Glorius' indeed.

AFTER, mankind 'screws the pooch' and 9 out of 10 humans are dead, due to Nuclear Warfare, Yahshua returns to defeat the remaining 'Forces of Evil'.

Yahweh Shamai (new Jerusalem) descends from the clouds to the Earth, and the rehabilitation of the Earths Eco-Systems begins immediately.

Through the use of Nuclear Warfare, mankind has made the Entire Planet unfit for Human habitation. Also DU-NDU, Prions, STDs.

Mankind itself is responsible for its own demise.

Shalom: Snoopsnuffleopagus


Cordial Felicitations Drael:

I get the impression you have not read this Thread from the beginning as it presents Positions that would clarify your queries.

Your belief that: Moral living cannot be defined by a set of rules is contrary to the main thrust of the entire Book.

Yahweh has provided us, His Children, complete (without mystery) instruction for living Moral lives.

613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes=The Torah, for all Human Beings.

First to Individuals: Adam

In the Garden of Yahweh. Eden, it was Eve who was deceived. Adam willfully disobeyed Yahweh.

If you read this Thread from the beginning, I recognise Yahweh as the Creator Being. He is not god.

His Estranged Wife Hillal, the Queen of Heaven is Satan.

It is Satan who created the Position of god. There are many, many gods: The Rebel Malakim (Fallen Angels).

Father Yahweh, the Loyalist Malakim(angels), the Cherubim, All the Prophets, Yahshua Messiah (jesus), all the Disciples & Apostles are Pro-Torah.

Hillal, Queen of Heaven, Satan, Lucifer, Ashera..(she has many names), all the Rebel Malkim (fallen Angels), and many others are: Anti-Torah

The Torah was the Root Cause of the Malakims (angels) Rebellion. 1/3 of the Malakim (angels) rebelled against the Governance of Yahwehs Torah.

I think it is safe to say: ALL the problems on Earth today are due to individual deficits of Moral Character.

There is certainly Symbolism, Metaphors, Allegories; all subject to the Torah.

Crawl>Walk>Stroll

This Thread was initiated to provide a Mechanical & Mathematical basis of understanding of this Book.

There are: Absolutes

The Absolutes provide: Benchmarks & Baselines

There is: Quality Control

Read the Thread: Page 12 has information about the Garden of Eden event.

It is all about the Torah.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-11-2007, 04:59 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

As I have stated in prior posts; The Torah, Codex of Law, 613 Laws Judgements and Statutes, are the focus of every story in the Book of Yahweh, from Genesis to Revelation. This is precisely the central thought in this story.

The Tree of Life represents the Torah, obedience to the Laws merits eternal life as part of Father Yahwehs family. The Tree may be considered as perfect righeousness. Yahshua Messiah says in Mattithyah(matthew) 5:48, to become perfect as Yahweh is perfect. This is true love

The Tree of the Knowledge of Righteousness and Evil, represents the ways of the gods. Not all bad, but not all good either. This Tree represents Babylon, which means confusion. Also considered a 'Gate of God(el)', also, 'Gate of Confusion'.

It was Hillyl(satan, lucifer, queen of heaven) who created the position of El(god) as opposition to Yahweh. Hillyl is God(el) number 1. The rest of Her Fallen Angels assume many other roles in their interface with humans.

What Satan was telling Eve, was, Her way was superior to Yahwehs, Eve would be empowered to do what she thought was right.

What Satan was actually presenting was covetnous, unlawful desire. As Satan Herself, as wife of Yahweh, had the finest of all resources and a position of authority, she desired more; resources and positions of authority that were not Hers to possess. She taught this to Eve. Eve taught this to Adam.

Before this dreadful occurence, Adam & Eve lived a Blissful Life in the Garden of Yahweh, every need satisfied by nature itself. They were one with the Earth and Father Yahweh.

A profound change occured the day Yahweh had Adam name the animals. Until then, Adam thought he was like them, just different. So he gathered the animals and the first one he named, he called a Unicorn. Yahweh liked this, so He touched the beast upon the head and a single horn grew from the Unicorns forehead, and Father Yahweh declared the Unicorn: Lord of All Beasts. Adam & Eve would ride the Unicorn through the Garden. Life was 'Good'.

Now Adam & Eve having consumed the knowledge of Satans way, 'realised' they were naked and were 'ashamed'. Yahweh noticed also and came to kick them out of the Garden. Yahweh brought Adam & Eve and the Unicorn to the Gate of the Garden, and placed Malakim with Flameing Swords at the Gate to prevent their return.


Appocryphal Anecdote:
Father Yahweh turned to the Unicorn, and said, 'You are Blameless in this sordid affair, you may remain in the Garden if you wish, or you may accompany Adam & Eve out into the world, where there is pestilence and war, and pain in childbirth and death'. The Unicorn looked at the Gate of the Garden of Yahweh, Eden, with Malakim with Flameing Swords guarding the entrance, turned and looked at Adam & Eve, and chose to accompany them.

Forever after the Unicorn was Blessed for its compassion. It could have remained in Yahwehs Garden, Eden, a place of ideal beauty and delight, but instead, out of Love, the Unicorn chose the hard way, the Human way.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Cordial Felicitations Drael:

In this Thread I chose to exclude the Speculative: Gnosticism, Kabbala, Tarot, Astrology, Numerology.

the First Positive Commandment: Believe in Yahweh as the only source of Power in the Universe

My personal Belief & Position is this Life is Training, to gain understanding through experience.

Again similarities with other Schools of Thought, yet, vast and profound differences.

The Torah: 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes are the Granitic Bedrock of the Book of Yahweh.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

drael
26-11-2007, 04:27 AM
>I get the impression you have not read this Thread from >the beginning as it presents Positions that would clarify >your queries.
>Your belief that: Moral living cannot be defined by a set >of rules is contrary to the main thrust of the entire Book.
>Yahweh has provided us, His Children, complete (without >mystery) instruction for living Moral lives.
>613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes=The Torah, for all >Human Beings.

No i hadnt read the whole thread. Perhaps the thrust of the torah is rules for being good. However, i dont feel like i need 613 laws to know what is right - my heart knows, spirit fills me and i know. I follow what "god" wants me to be. Looking at the rules you posted, that all seems common sense. Nothing i disagree with, but why does one need rules when its as obvious as the stars?

Also arent there some really weird rules in the bible? i remember someone sent a bunch to me via email once. Stuff like sacrificing goats and such.... Wish i still had the email...

I only really relate to some verses of the bible, some of it just seems unnessasary or overly literal to me. But each to their own, certainly i am no tower of truth or godliness and i respect your beleifs.

I am glad you reposted you take on the story of eden. While i differ on points of symbolism, it is basically similar to my interpretation. For me the story of babylon and eden are about trying to claim "gods" authority/power for our own. I beleive this occurs because of duality and knowledge, essentially judgement (only "god" can judge or know anything), but the overall idea i think is very similar.

Your info on angels etc is interesting, ive always been interested in that part of the mythology. I seem to recall there are some angels who disgagreed, where punished and then welcomed back into the fold. (the angel of secrets is one, cant remember the name). I thought some of the disagreement was about mans being able to choose whether to break the rules or not, or have i got that wrong? (that angels arent allowed to "mess up", like we can?). Interesting stuff, thanks for the post.

>the First Positive Commandment: Believe in Yahweh as the only source of Power in the Universe

Well im not sure about the word yahweh (I beleive it means "I am that I am", which does seem like an okay name when translated), but this i can agree is an important part of truth and the bible. I just like you dont like the word "god", or any names for that matter...ive been using "mystery", the nameless one seems good too.

octopusrex
26-11-2007, 03:38 PM
The old law of Abraham and Moses tells you what animals you can eat and how..

Where does eating meat enter into higher awareness?

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-11-2007, 06:34 PM
The old law of Abraham and Moses tells you what animals you can eat and how..

Where does eating meat enter into higher awareness?




Cordial Felicitations Octopusrex:

The eating of Meat is more a Mechanical Process than an Esoteric exercise.

The Sacrifice of the Meat is Esoteric in Nature.

BAR-B-Q!!!

Yahweh created all things on Earth for Humankinds benefit.

Some of our Meat-Space Suits require T-Bone Steaks, Chickens, Ducks, Turkeys, Trouts, Sea-Bass etc. for sustanance.

Not being equipped with a Vegan Meat Space-Suit



Now those of us who 'Dig' Bar-B-Q, are aware that Father Yahweh loves the Aroma of a roasted cow, and the fatty parts, and those morsels of meat that are close to the bone.


SUBLIME


tear



The segragation of Animals: Noah took 7 (seven) Pairs of the 'Clean' Animals aboard his Yacht


And 2 (Two) Pairs of the 'Unclean' Animals


Consider the 'Unclean' Animals (including) Sea-Life, as Filters for the Earth.

The Nature of these Critters are not suitable for Human Consumption.

The Sea-Food MUST have BOTH: Fins & Gills


Octopus is not on our Menu.



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
26-11-2007, 06:53 PM
Cordial Felicitations Drael:

In a: Thread, Far, far away. Posted a long, long time ago, I Posted:

"Evil may be defined as: Behaviour that is harmful to oneself or to others"

Experience will help us discern.


All the time, the Elders of Our Tribes WARN us: Hey!!! Kiddz!! Play with Fire you are gonna get BURNED!!!! :eek:

And most of us must find out for ourselves this is so.

Many do not survive or are scarred for life. :eek: :eek:


"We must walk consciously only part way toward our goal, and then leap in the dark to our success". Henry David Thoreau



"The 'Proof' of the 'Pudding', is in the 'eating' "! Bullwinkle the Moose

I bid you: Bon Voyage! :) upon your journey.

Be Well

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

octopusrex
27-11-2007, 01:30 AM
No wonder Bhaaaaaal has troubles with YVHV!

snoopsnuffleopagus
27-11-2007, 02:59 AM
No wonder Bhaaaaaal has troubles with YVHV!



TETRA-GRAMMATON



Yodh Heh Vau Heh YHVH

or Right to Left HVHY



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
06-12-2007, 12:03 AM
Duplicate post I know........

The Book of Yahweh is still unproveable much the same as the Bible and all other religions, in so much as it cannot PROVE what it says. It's a book no more or lessn no more than a Book of Pooh. Sorry if this offends but no proof, no do!!!!

I have no faith in anything at all and would defy anyone to prove me otherwise but I am not an aethiest or anything. Much better that way. In the mean time I'll just wait and see what happens but in the mean time I'm not going to lend myself to a God because it soothes my otherwise fragile ego and self...

Most kind regards to you Snoops,

Optimus pigpot........

snoopsnuffleopagus
06-12-2007, 06:32 AM
Cordial Felicitations Optimus Pigpot:

Thank you for your insight & input.


Let us cherish the Freedom we enjoy to believe as we wish.


The 'Fullness of Time' shall reveal all.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

adimon
06-12-2007, 07:15 AM
If you read this Thread from the beginning, I recognise Yahweh as the Creator Being. He is not god.

His Estranged Wife Hillal, the Queen of Heaven is Satan.

It is Satan who created the Position of god.

Crawl>Walk>Stroll

If Yahweh is the creator being, I assume he created Hillal? Why then did he not have the power to destroy her/it?

If he had the power to create THE UNIVERSE, why not remove one being from it?

Perhaps you can expand on how satan created the position of god. I thought it was men that had done that.

Crawl>Walk>Stroll>Run

Cheers

Chris

optimus pigpot
06-12-2007, 07:28 AM
Cordial Felicitations Optimus Pigpot:

Thank you for your insight & input.


Let us cherish the Freedom we enjoy to believe as we wish.


The 'Fullness of Time' shall reveal all.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

I shall reveal all.......

Be at piece my friend across earth... But I do not believe, even though you may!!!!!

snoopsnuffleopagus
13-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen:

The purpose of this thread is to explore the most controversial Book in the annals of Human History.

No one Book has inspired more, both in Positive and Negative ways, Humankind. Surely History denotes the Full Swing of these qualities, from the Spanish Inquisitions to the Paradigm of Yahshua Messiah(jesus)

Indeed, even Mr. David Icke has recognized the merits and qualities and values of the paradigm of Yahshua Messiah as one to be emulated.

No Book in History has been more Loved, Hated, Banned, Burned, Mis-understood, Mis-represented, mis-translated and in general, been more controversial.

It is my desire these above notated qualities may be explored in a civil and erudite manner. For those of you who may have noticed the Thread: Krishna=Jerusalem=Tara, the Book of Yahweh is a Lightning Rod.

All are welcome to come and explore and in this way, we may be able to move Knowledge forward, and some Good(an actual value)may be found.

Mass cut & paste posts will not be welcome, rather provide links and speak from your own experience and understanding.

Myself, my position is: The Book of Yahweh is the Source of all Knowledge, there is no question that cannot be answered, and Light shed in a positive manner on any subject.

Do stop by, and bring more Light than Heat, until then,

My Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus





Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


At this juncture in Time, we can see several of the points put forth in above Post have proven True.


Has anyone else noticed: The Book of Yahweh, Yahweh and Yahshua, referred to as: The Bible, god and jesus, are one of the most popular topics on this Board, usually to defame or disparage.

I would say it is Ironic, a group of people who desire open mindedness, Truth, cessation of Mis-representation, Mis-information. Dis-information, engage and promote the very qualities they claim to abhor.


"As the Forum goes, so goes Rome, as Rome goes, so goes the World"


Anybody see the Forum lately?


I depart in 3 weeks. Snoopsnuffleopagus shall not return. Snoops account shall close.


The information I have Posted in this Thread is my attempt to Clarify a very confused Topic.

I have not presented my own interpretations, rather, let Scripture speak for itself.


The most prevalent False Doctrine taught is Yahshua, (jesus) did away with the Laws. One of Satans greatest deceptions.


I have Posted Scripture that thoroughly refutes that claim.


A Poster on this Board was informing Readers. Rabbi Yahshua did not like Judaism and did away with the Laws.


Postings Provided refute that claim.



The Laws of Yahweh are intended for the benefit of ALL MANKIND



Going our own way has brought us to the present circumstances at this Time.




Before I leave I will Post a Summation, and Amplify a bit more.



Look Up! Look Forward! The Best is Yet to Come!



SHALOM: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
13-12-2007, 06:20 PM
Cordial Felicitations Adimon:


Yes Yahweh has the ability to destroy her. The Book of Isayah and others each speak of her ultimate destruction, when Yahwehs Plan is Fullfilled.


The Reason Yahweh allows this is: First Yahweh created a Race of Beings: The Malakim, Angels, they were 'Forced' to live under the Governance of the Laws of the Torah.

Hillal was selected from amongst these Malakim to become Yahwehs Wife, to Teach and Uphold Yahwehs Laws.


Somewheres along the way, Hillal thought she could do better, she convinced 1/3 of the Malakim to join her.


War in Heaven.



So Yahweh has experience with a species of Beings that rebelled because they were forced to live by His Laws, so when He created Humans, He allowed them Free-Will. He would Advise us, but we could do as we please.



These are the Two Trees in Eden. Yahwehs and Satans


Yahwehs: The Tree of Life-obedience to the Laws 'earns' Eternal Life in Yahwehs Kingdom (an Immortal Soul is not a 'given' in the Book of Yahweh)


Satans, the Queen of Heaven: The Tree of Righteousness & Evil



Righteousness: Obedience to the Laws of Yahweh



Evil: Behaviour that is Harmful to Oneself and/or Others. An absence of Yahwehs Laws.


Sin: As defined in the Book of Yahweh: Transgression of the Laws.


Humankind has chosen and embraced Satans Tree: Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.


So a few thousand years of this Philosophy has led us to our current situation.


Adimon, a unique perspective of the Roadmap for Peace, including information from Madsen Report about that B-52 with Nuclear Tipped Cruise Missiles, may be found in this months Newsletter at: yahweh.com




Creation of Position of God: Etymology traces god back to el elohim, yl, wyl,

Canaanite Semitic Lanquage: Mighty One etc.


Satan (hillal) apparently has rule over the Earth from long before the Adam & Eve event.

She is known by MANY names: Queen of Heaven, Venus, Diana, Ashera, Ashteroth and many, many more.

She has been embedded here, ultimately as part of Father Yahwehs Plan.


"The Playa who is Playin is ultimately Played"


So the History of Humankind, just from Adam & Eve is for a Historic Record of Life with the Absence of Yahwehs Laws. 6,000 years (the Earth is Billions of Years old)(many Societies prior to Adam & Eve)


Even the Jewish People, with a History of Disobedience to Yahweh (Stiff necked backsliders) do not keep His Laws properly, having added the Talmud, which creates separation.


So when Humans 'Screw the Pooch and destroy themselves with Nuclear wars & ensuing Disease epidemics' Yahweh takes control of the Earth from Satan, and Locks her up.


Now the 1,000 year rule of Yahweh & Yahshua begin, Those in the First Ressurection help them Clean & Restore the Earth.


Environmental Hazard Remediation, of which I happen to be a Level 'A' Technician. A Labourer who shovels up the 'Poo'.

Now the Earth is Radio-Active, plus Industrial Toxins and the Sexually Transmitted Diseases which have also crossed into the Environment.

As has all the Pharmaceuticals.

And the Top-Soil is ravaged also. and the Water, and the Seeds


So there will be 1,000 years of Yahweh, Yahshua and a whole bunch of others restore the Planet and 'Set Up Shoppe'.


Now the Second Ressurection occurs, when most Humans who ever lived arise.


So by the Time they arise, the Earth will be restored and the Humans present will be living under the Governance of Yahwehs Laws.



They will be able to view 6,000 years of History under Satans Rule as comparison to 1,000 years under Yahwehs and Yahshuas Rule.



Thus Humans had Free-Will and could realise the consequences of their decisions.



The whole Book is about Yahwehs Plan, this Plan is endorsed by Yahshua Messiah.



Churchianity informs differently.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

zero1
14-12-2007, 01:00 AM
I'll tell you the answer zero1....... Don't bother because what you have said will be out in next weeks children's comics..

You qouted, Snoops as saying, "you say Yahweh is an anthropomorphic being, who looks Human. And that he is not a "God", and that "God" was invented by Satan, who is a woman!"

Fucking hell it just gets better as time goes by.......

What do you mean by "...will be out in next weeks children's comics"?!

Please allow Snoops to answer. I understand your contempt for everything you don't understand, that's fine: but I addressed my post to him, specifically, for a reason.

Thank you.

zero1
14-12-2007, 01:10 AM
Obviously, I just should have just PM'd Snoopsnuffleopagus the story. Why didn't I think of that? :rolleyes:

kasalt
14-12-2007, 08:04 AM
P.S. to Snoop: Why do you say you are leaving this forum in a couple of weeks?

snoopsnuffleopagus
14-12-2007, 08:52 AM
P.S. to Snoop: Why do you say you are leaving this forum in a couple of weeks?


Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:


Spend a few months in Florida, I always try to leave about Jan. 3-7, return Mid-April.

There will be no time to Forumize due to Work & Play Schedule.

I am not departing due to these recent conflicts, which at most are a minor annoyance. I love everybody, and pray for all Humans Peace & Welfare.


But it is up to each individual to Master themselves, or others will do it for you.


We'll schmooze tomorrow, so you a 'Coon Ass' or what. Did you see my Post, I worked in Grand Island & Port Sulphure and Barataria Bay.

Had a Helluva Time!!!!:D:D:D:D

optimus pigpot
14-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:


Spend a few months in Florida, I always try to leave about Jan. 3-7, return Mid-April.

There will be no time to Forumize due to Work & Play Schedule.

I am not departing due to these recent conflicts, which at most are a minor annoyance. I love everybody, and pray for all Humans Peace & Welfare.


But it is up to each individual to Master themselves, or others will do it for you.


We'll schmooze tomorrow, so you a 'Coon Ass' or what. Did you see my Post, I worked in Grand Island & Port Sulphure and Barataria Bay.

Had a Helluva Time!!!!:D:D:D:D

Please Snoops.. Don't go because we've conflicted.... Now you're making me feel guilty that I've made you leave the country.........

zero1
14-12-2007, 12:11 PM
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Cordial Felicitations Zero:


That is an excellent revelation. As the Muslims pray to Allah 5 Times a Day, Yahwists pray to Yahweh 24/7.

Ones actions And Deeds are a reflection of the Degree of their Faith.


One is not expected to Keep all 613 Laws perfectly at once, but learn and implement them gradually.

Example: One may wish to begin observing the Dietary Laws. No Swine, no Sea-Food unless it has both Fins and Scales. Omitting these from ones Diet is a nice beginning. The Reason some Critters are deemed unclean is they do not process the food they intake to be safe for Human Consumption.


A Cow has two stomachs, and the Intake of the Cow is processed thoroughly rendering the Cow safe for Human Consumption,

The Beloved Swine processes the Food it eats into Meat on the Bone in 6 Hours. Most People are aware of Trichynosis, a parasite found in Swine Flesh: Hamm, Bacon, Pork Chops. People say cook it thoroughly yet Scientists have cooked Pork at 1500 Degrees for 8 hours and Trichynosis Parasites were still present.

The 'Unclean' Animals & Sea Creatures are Filters for the Environment.


The True Torah Groups are still Tamudic: Oral & Written Traditions that upon inspection create Separation between Peoples instead of Uniting.


Yahweh not a God: Based on First appearance of Tetra-Grammaton in 'J'ah Text>7-800 BCE. Remember as Yahweh is giving the Hebrews the Land of Canaan to possess He tells them: Do not worship me as the gods of Egypt are worshipped, nor worship me as the Canaanites worship their gods.

The gods themselves are Creations of Yahweh, these are the El-ohim, the 'Fallen Angels'.

Jeremiah: The Lying Pens of the Scribes will cause the People to forget My Name.


The Torah is complete to itself. Yahweh composed the Torah Himself, the Talmud is the work of Men.


The History of Satan I have Posted, I will find the Posts and give you the # and Page, tomorrow.

The Book of Yahweh is very unique in many ways and causes much debate.

Zero, you are welcome here anytime, even after I leave.


minimus pigpot is only proving points I made in Prior Posts.

Tomorrow morning I shall invite Kasalt here to explain his submission of an Orientalist Defamation of the Book of Yahweh without ever reading the Book. The assertions made by the Orientalist prove this as they are baseless and without merit. This is not the quality of an enlightened Teacher.

To be a 'Debunker' you should have first-hand (as opposed to proxy) Knowledge of the subject they attempt to debunk.

minimus pigpot is the Posterpig of an inept 'Debunker', he/she is clueless.

Zero, nice to meet you, I shall return tomorrow about 11 am, EST, (new York.

Slow & Steady wins the race & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus


At the House of Yahweh website, they provide the First Page of Genesis and the Book of John, in the Book of Yahweh section. Read the Margin Notes on the Genesis Page, that will answer many of your questions.



Addendum: The Doctrine of Re-Incarnation is not in the Book of Yahweh.


One lives, one dies, one 'sleeps' until the First or Second Ressurection.


This puts to rest many of the Hell & Limbo & Heaven theories.


Neither the First or of course the Second Ressurections have occured as of yet. The First Ressurection is AFTER humankind screws the pooch themselves, The Second Ressurection is 1,000 years AFTER the First.

Yahshua (jesus) is a SEPARATE & DIFFERENT BEING THAN YAHWEH.


Yahweh has many sons, but only one Begotten in the Flesh.

Yahshuas Multi-Faceted Mission included representing the Character of Yahweh.


Notice how many say: Jesus is OK, but I do not like the god of the old testament, they have different character. This is not so.

Yahshua succeeded in Representing Yahweh. Quite Well.

To UNDERSTAND Yahshua (Jesus) is to UNDERSTAND Yahweh.


This is not a Mystery Religion.

All Cards are on the Table.

My approach to the Book of Yahweh is: Mechanical & Mathematical ( algebraic )

Not Esoteric. Good Lexicons, Concordances and Dictionary.


No Gnosticism

No Kabbalah ( suggested to have 30 years study of the Torah as a pre-requisite)



Oh, my last word for tonight: So many are concerned because: 'CHURCH LADY' Sez: YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL YOU DEBIL WORSHIPPIN HEATHENS< YadaYadaYada



Let us re-call Yahshuas Last words as He died upon the Stake: Father, ( separate persona) FORGIVE THEM, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!


Anthropomorphism: No Vaporous Clouds as god or anything, Heads, Eyes, Hands, Legs..etc.


We are going to inherit and inhabit the Universe & work & Play.

With 100% use of our Minds, governed by Yahweh & Yahshua and Their appointed representatives.


You should read the Book, the House of Yahwehs Translation is well regarded. And absolutely compare it to ALL other Translations. As anyone can see from the two sample pages, it is a work of quality.

OK, thanks for the reply, Snoops. :)

kasalt
19-12-2007, 04:01 AM
A recently published book by Yisrayl Hawkins states that he "is a Jew whose family was severely persecuted and forced to flee from Europe to the United States. He was raised without synagogue, but was strictly taught by his Jewish parents, both of whom trace their lineage to the tribe of Levi."

When this passage was read to one of Hawkins' brothers, he sighed before saying, "Bill's my brother, but he ain't got both oars in the water, if you know what I mean. Our daddy was a Dutchman, our mother was three-quarters Cherokee, and we don't have a drop of Jewish blood in us."

Newsweek magazine, in covering doomsday cults reported that among Hawkin's group in Abilene many hundreds have pierced their ears as a sign of being a slave or servant to Yahweh and Hawkins. This sign of loyalty can now be seen on many cult members.

One of his daughters remembered how he reacted when she and her sister burned the potatoes one evening: "He threw them against the wall and made us go to our rooms. Then he came in with a wire hangar and whipped our legs till they bled. And then he pulled off his belt and whipped us some more."

http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/cults/yisrayl-hawkins.html



Hawkins stated on television in 1998 that the United States would be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust in the fall of the year 2000. Then in 1999 he began saying the end may not come for another several years.

"Millions are prophesied to die in the next two years, in fulfillment of bible prophecy, because of what the Catholic Church plans to bring about. ("Newsletter dated 11/1998).
"According to Daniyl's prophecy this destruction will take place in the next two years. ("Newsletter dated 12/1998)
Y. Hawkins says, "This same religion, called the great whore and her daughters, will still be in power at the time of Yahshua Messiah's coming, approximately TWO YEARS from now." ("The End" Book 1998 p. 153.) Continuing on p. 190 "If you do not believe Yahweh's inspired prophets now, you will come to believe them in the next two years. There will be greater troubles in 1998, than in 1997. But the worst time of trouble will not be seen until late 1999, early 2000.

http://www.letusreason.org/sacna1.htm



False prophecy quotes from House of Yahweh newsletters:

Newsletter dated 1/1997- "You need to start reading these books now! We only have four years left and these four years will be filled with tribulation. MILLIONS WILL DIE in the next four years."

Newsletter dated 2/1997- To all World Leaders…But do not destroy this letter. File it away, and when these things come to pass, remember that I wrote you, WARNING you of these prophecies…You will start seeing these things take place in 1997. And they will be fulfilled in the next four years."

Newsletter dated 12/1997- "According to prophecy we only have three more years of work left before the end comes."

Newsletter dated 1/1998- "These books also disclose why the world will be ALMOST TOTALLY DESTROYED and four-fifths of mankind killed in the next three years."

Newsletter dated 7/1998- "The destruction, prophesied in your bible in absolute detail, which will destroy a large majority of the earth's population, will come to pass in the next two and one-half years…
The next two and one-half years will be FILLED WITH DESTRUCTION…I beg you to please obtain this information now! There are ONLY TWO AND ONE-HALF YEARS LEFT BEFORE THE END!"

Newsletter dated 12/1998- "According to Daniyl's prophecy this destruction will take place in the next two years."

The Prophetic Word dated 8/1999 p. 22- "The earth will be completely devastated by the use of nuclear weapons in the next three and one-half years."

On and on it goes...

http://www.orgsites.com/tx/yahwehs-people/index.html



House of Yahweh
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House of Yahweh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Current events
In July of 2006, the infant son of a couple with ties to the House of Yahweh, died from malnourishment and traumatic asphyxiation, according to autopsy reports. No charges have been filed in the child's death.

In October 2006, a House of Yahweh member pleaded guilty to injury to a child by criminal negligence for performing surgery on her 7-year-old daughter, which led to her death, according to authorities.

On October 16, 2007, Yedidiyah Hawkins, an Elder at the House of Yahweh and purported number two spiritual leader for the group, was arrested for sexual assault of his 14 year old stepdaughter. During a forensic interview at the Abilene Police Department's Child Advocacy Center, the child disclosed that the abuse began when she was eight. Documents released by the Callahan County District Attorney's Office following the arrest allege that Yedidiyah Hawkins was preparing to marry the unnamed stepdaughter. [2]

In their February 2006 Newsletter, Yisrayl Hawkins announced that the world should prepare for a nuclear war which will start 12 September 2006[1]. Despite the fact that the prophesied nuclear war did not start on the predicted date, the official website of House of Yahweh continues to insist on the accuracy of its prophecy. They have since modified their teaching by saying that September 12, 2006 was only the start of a nine month period; at the end of that time (June 12, 2007)[2], the prophesied nuclear war would start. As of December, 2007 the website states that "It's 100% true and coming soon" although the nine month period has passed.

Recently, the leaders of the sect in Kenya were arrested, and subsequently released on bail after giving assurances that they would refrain from inciting fear in the local population. Following the predicted "doomsday" date predicted by the Kenyan sect, leaders of the group have reportedly fled Kenya.


YAAQOB HAWKINS ADMITS HE IS NOT ONE OF THE TWO WITNESSES:

http://franklin4yahweh.tripod.com/JacobsLetter.html


This page contains information The Rick A. Ross Institute has
gathered about House of Yahweh.

http://www.rickross.com/groups/yahweh.html

Check out these news headlines on the House of Yahweh:

A House of Yahweh member accused of molesting teen
Doomsayers see doom out of the hole
Texas woman convicted of operating on child who later died
Woman gets probation in daughter's death after home surgery
Another doomsday prediction proven false
Confusion as prophecy by doomsday cult fails
Residents of Nyandarua village in central Kenya are full of relief, after a local sect's doomsday predictions failed to materialise.
Religious sect predicts end of world starts today
Salvation on my windshield
Kenya sect bunkers down for doomsday
Mother linked to cult
Mother jailed in death of girl after 'surgery'
2 Yahweh sect members buy up land
Sect member threatens to seize city's property
One man's view of Yisrayl Hawkins' world
Local sect considered worrisome
Attempt to get all family members out unsuccessful
House of Yahweh critic arrested
House of Yahweh may be breaking foodstamp law
Daughter of Yisrayl Hawkins responds to food stamp issue
Neighbors prepare for group's celebration of Passover
House of Yahweh has ties to anti-government group Posse Comitatus
House of Yahweh featured in national magazine
Families turn to courts to retrieve loved ones
Cult leader's wife delighted with magazine's portrayal
Magazine explores local cult
House of Yahweh member responds
Baby in critcal condition
Yahweh leader's ex-wife to open mobile home park
Millennium cults pose bigger threat than terrorists
Findings on petition to modify child custody
Scanned Pages of Findings
Apocalypse Now. No, Really. Now!
Recent court victories may help keep children out of House of Yahweh

optimus pigpot
19-12-2007, 07:34 AM
kasalt 10000000000000000000000000 X Infinity

SnoopspileofshitIguess -1000000000000000000000000000000000000000.

What a buch of crap.

Top research kasalt...

Fucking paedophile Messianic Yahweh perverts... No different to the others...

Sick, entirely sick!!!

kasalt
19-12-2007, 08:36 AM
(AP, October 19, 2007)

Abilene, USA - A member of the House of Yahweh religious sect is accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl he was preparing to marry.

Yedidiyah Hawkins, 40, remained jailed on $500,000 bail after his arrest on a child sexual assault charge.

Callahan County's investigation began with an anonymous report to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services by former members of the Yahweh sect.

Both sources had been told by current members of the House of Yahweh that Hawkins had molested the girl, whom he had begun preparing to marry, according to documents filed in the case.

Child Protective Services then interviewed the teen, who said she has been molested since she was 8, most recently by Hawkins in his bedroom earlier this month, the affidavit said.

When Hawkins came to pick up the girl after she spoke to officials in Abilene on Tuesday afternoon, he was arrested, police said.

The phone number listed on the House of Yahweh's Web site rang unanswered on Friday.

The House of Yahweh is an Old Testament-based religious group with headquarters and a compound of about 50 acres in Callahan County. Bill Hawkins, a former Abilene police officer who left the department in 1977, founded the sect in 1980.

Hawkins later changed his name to Yisrayl Hawkins, and many members of the House of Yahweh have changed their last name to Hawkins and adopted an unusual spelling of their first name.

The sect has had run-ins with the law several times. Last year Abilene police investigated the death of a 1-month-old boy whose death and burial had not been reported to authorities. An autopsy later indicated that the child died of malnourishment and traumatic asphyxiation. No charges have been filed in the boy's death.

Also last year, a sect member pleaded guilty to injury to a child by criminal negligence and was sentenced to five years' probation for performing surgery on her 7-year-old daughter who later died.

http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=26636&sec=69&cont=all


FACTNet Message Board: Yisrayl Hawkins and the House of Yahweh

Has anyone here heard, or been a member of, the House of Yahweh in Clyde (Abilene)< Texas?
This is a dangerous cult!
In October, an elder with the HOY was arrested on child molestation charges. http://www.reporternews.com/news/2007/oct/18/hawkins-arrested-on-sexual-assault-charge/
Since this story broke, Yisrayl Hawkins has "preached" that the child making the accusations against Yedidiyah is a LIAR.
THere are families who now want to leave the HOY but can't, because Yisrayl Hawkins takes everything they have! He tells them that if they leave, they will lose their salvation!
Please, if there is anyone that you know who is in this cult.....help get them out. There are innocent women and children who need our help.
A&E did a special that was aired on Sunday night (Dec 2) about this cult.
Yisrayl Hawkins claims to be "The Witness" from the book of Revelation!!!! Well, it started as he and his brother, but his brother is now deceased.
PLEASE....pass this along and help these innocent people.
Young girls are being "married" to old men. This is sick! The men have to PAY for their "brides". The money goes to Yisrayl Hawkins!!!!!
Also, most of his "followers" have changes their last name to Hawkins...for him
We desperately need help for these people.
Since the case against Yedidiyah Hawkins started, Yisrayl Hawkins is now LOCKING the sanctuary doors during services, for fear of being raided! I am afraid that if these people do not get help....it is going to turn into another "Waco" or that Yisrayl Hawkins will be another Jim Jones. He has already gotten his "faithful" to agree with him, that they would rather DIE than leave the HOY.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/40970.html?1196865572

kasalt
19-12-2007, 08:36 AM
House of Yahweh member arrested - YouTube

optimus pigpot
19-12-2007, 09:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFldfRWAnV4

More shit for snoops......

Oh!! Sorry Yahweh must be right then!!

More bollocks!!!!!!!!!!!

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-12-2007, 03:21 PM
Cordial Felicitations:


Kasalt, thank you for bringing forth the Material on the Child Molester.

My position on this has been Posted Prior.



Most of the Rest of your ALLEGATIONs have been proven FALSE. These may be VETTED by the Abilene Police Department, which I checked with 6 years ago. The Police Department has their own Cult Specialist.


But you did not VETT these ALLEGATIONs, did you Kasalt?


You do not KNOW Jacob Hawkins Reconciled with his brother before Passing away. You have not Studied the Subject, as always you provide PROXY arguments that are meritless. Like The Orientalist promoting Mystery Doctrines.


Ladies & Gentlemen: Those who can log in should examine: 'Where did all the religious nuts go? Thread in the Rant Room. Very interesting.


I put Forth a challenge to Optimus Pigpot & Kasalt.


I now put it to any readers of this Thread.



At: yahweh.com



The Prophetic Word Magazine



Issue: 12-2004


The Truthabout Messiah




All readers are urged to examine this one Magazine, as it is Perfectly Indicative of the Scholarship presented by the House of Yahweh.


The House of Yahweh does not Recruit. They put out their information to anyone who wants it. And they do not accept just anybody as a Member.

You MUST be attempting to Live by Yahwehs Laws or they will not accept you. Any public organisation will attract individuals that are Deceitful and Phoney.


As I have Posted, I am not a Member, nor have I tried to Recruit or Suggest anyone Join this Group.


Rather: Examine their WORK.


Excellent Scholarship




THE INFORMATION THE PTBs DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW



yahweh.com



The Prophetic Word Magazine


Issue 12-2004



The Truth about Messiah


Examine this yourself, and decide the Merits of the Materiel according to your own standards.



Kasalt & Optimus really do not want you to examine this material.


I requested they examine it and share their opinion with me, as yet, they have not.




The House of Yahweh is an OPEN BOOK, as Kasalt has posted: Yisrayl was a Former Police Officer, who knows, maybe he was a Freemason, I cannot say. But he is well known to the Community.



Anyone, who actually teaches what the Bible actually says will be Persecuted.



The Book of Yahweh, the Translation of the Bible by the House of Yahweh is another example of their excellet scholarship, as Praised by a Professor from: The Hebrew University in Jerusalem.


The Being Satan, shown to be Female was well known in Ancient Times. Archaelogical artifacts have been found with an inscription: Yahweh and His Ashera (Yahweh and His Wife Ashera), The Ancients knew who the 'Queen of Heaven' is.



Michylangelo rendered Satan as a Female on the Sistine Chapel Ceiling.



The Material The House of Yahweh is disturbing because they do not Sugar-Coat what the Bible actually says. This makes them very unpopular and pisses lots of People off.


And again, nobody wants you to read what is printed in:



yahweh.com


The Prophetic Word Magazine


Issue: 12-2004


The Truth about Messiah



Examine it yourself, and you will realise why they want to suppres this information.



The Book of Yahweh is not a MYSTERY RELIGION, that distinquishes it from most others. the PTBs prefer that you embrace the MYSTERY SCHOOLS, like the one Kasalt belongs to.



Whatever you do, don't read that issue, 12-2004, it will piss everybody off!



I am departing December 31, I intend to return Mid-May.

A few more Posts and I will be a Ghost. Optimus and Kasalt and Others will turn their 'Love' upon others. Much can be learned by examining their Postings.

We shall see, what we shall see.


Be back soon with a Post.


Thanks again Kasalt & Optimus, always a pleasure!


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus


Addendum: Anyone can call the House of Yahweh and they will discuss these ALLEGATIONS, they are an OPEN BOOK




1-800-613-9494


(325) 893-5899


(325) 672-5424


Call them, inquire as to these ALLEGATIONs Kasalt has provide, decidde for yourself.


I, also checked with the Police Department, the Better Business Bureau and the Abilene Chamber of Commerce and numerous Cult Watch groups.


It is the DUTY of the individual to become informed themselves, Myself, or Kasalt can provide so much, the individual must do the work themselves, but whatever you do: Do not read the 12-2004 Issue of the Prophetic Word Magazine, The Truth about Messiah. They, the PTBs, really, really do not want you to know this information.



Thanks again Kasalt.


Any answers yet Kasalt?



I did not think so.

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-12-2007, 04:03 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


A Religious Suppression Battle is now taking place in various parts of this Forum, even here in the Religion Department, Optimus Pigpot is distressed this information is being brought forth.

I have two weeks til departure, I shall present until that time.


Optimus Pigpot declares there was no Jesus because: Mr. David Icke says so.

I presented counter evidence which he does not accept. I shall present it to you:


The Encyclopedia Judaica Volume 5, page 509


'Jesus and His First Disciples. As has been indicated before, the Teaching and Activity of Jesus cannot be properly described under the heading Christianity.

THERE IS NO VALID REASON for doubting His Historical Reality or ASSUMING Him to be a purely Mythical Figure.


be back soon: Snoops

octopusrex
19-12-2007, 05:12 PM
Funny how molestation charges are branded on York, HOY, the Mormons..

I see a pattern emerging.

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-12-2007, 05:24 PM
Cordial Felicitations Octopusrex:

I think that report about Yeddidayah Hawkins is Correct, but does not reflect on the Organisation he affiliated himself with.


These Pieces of Shit are everywhere: Churches, Schoolhouses, Boy Scout Troops....etc.


They are: Deceivers


So the actions of a Deceiver may be used to cast a Negative Light upon whatever group they are Affiliated with.



You are a reasonable person and I think you would recognise the merit of the Scholarship the House of Yahweh presents, as regarding the Book of Yahweh. The Isuue of the Prophetic Word Magazine: 12-2004. Refutes Eternal Spirit, Optimus Pigpot and Kasalt.

They are afraid to read it for it would shatter their Egos.

What those on the receiving end do with it is another matter.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
19-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:


A Religious Suppression Battle is now taking place in various parts of this Forum, even here in the Religion Department, Optimus Pigpot is distressed this information is being brought forth.

Many thanks snoops for judging my state of mind!!!

I have two weeks til departure, I shall present until that time.


Optimus Pigpot declares there was no Jesus because: Mr. David Icke says so.

Why then again do you persist, when you claim that the HOY does not recruit, in stumbling through a forum which concentrates on the information provided by a man called Icke.

I presented counter evidence which he does not accept, IS INCORRECT. I shall present it to you:


The Encyclopedia Judaica Volume 5, page 509

I encourage everyone to read this drivel and make up their own mind!!!!!

be back soon: Op

snoopsnuffleopagus
19-12-2007, 06:54 PM
be back soon: Op

Answers to Pigpots queries:

1: You, yourself, have presented your State of Mind in many Posts. I have not Judged, merely observed and Related.


2: AGAIN: Snoops is here to Clarify common errors encountered with the Book of Yahweh. The Book of Yahweh (bible) is a popular subject of discussion on this Forum, and is often Mis-Represented.



3: What you refer to as 'drivel' is: Sourced, Vetted, Peer-Reviewed Consensus Scholarship



WARNING: The House of Yahweh isa Religious Cult.

There are many ALLEGATIONS of wrong doing.


Use Caution & Due Diligence




Optimus Pigpot: Have you finished your Reading Assignment? What is your evaluation of: The Prophetic Word Magazine


Issue: 12-2004


The Truth About Messiah



@ yahweh.com




Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

octopusrex
20-12-2007, 02:17 AM
Okay, I'll fall for it.

Can you put all the rules and regulations of the book in one single, simple to read thread?

snoopsnuffleopagus
20-12-2007, 06:44 AM
Okay, I'll fall for it.

Can you put all the rules and regulations of the book in one single, simple to read thread?


Cordial Felicitations Octopusrex:

Perhaps when I return in May with advanced (for me) computer skillz.

In the Book of Yahweh, at the rear of the Book they place a Torah: 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes. These are the Laws as delivered by Moses, found in Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Exodus.

I do wish HOY would put these on their web-site as it is the Heart of the Book.


Sorry, No Can Do, at this Time.


And believe me, some of these Laws realy Piss people off, yet, Yahshua endorsed them all.


Thats why so many people make the False Claim: The Laws were done away with.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
20-12-2007, 09:07 AM
Answers to Pigpots queries:

1: You, yourself, have presented your State of Mind in many Posts. I have not Judged, merely observed and Related.
Agreed, I have. A free thinking individual who follows nothing and no-one, until it is proved to be absolute. You on the other hand are a needy fellow who maintains that his book is absolute. But I have met thousands snoops, who will argue with you that their version is right, so it is my judgement that if "God" is so fucking clever he's not done a particularly good job!!!!

2: AGAIN: Snoops (Only by the power of snoops, none of the rest of us says that you have been appointed chief clarifications officer) is here to Clarify common errors encountered with the Book of Yahweh. The Book of Yahweh (bible) is a popular subject of discussion on this Forum, and is often Mis-Represented.Hath "God" given you a mission snoops or are you a deranged lunatic who once again considers himself to be ready for salvation and lead the way for others who, regardless of your drivel will not follow!

3: What you refer to as 'drivel' is: Sourced, Vetted, Peer-Reviewed Consensus Scholarship
For the next time. By whom has this been Sourced, Vetted, Peer-Reviewed Consensus Scholarship

WARNING: The House of Yahweh is a Religious Cult.

There are many ALLEGATIONS of wrong doing.


Use Caution & Due Diligence

Optimus Pigpot: Have you finished your Reading Assignment? What is your evaluation of: The Prophetic Word Magazine

~ YAHWEH Has Power Over All The Gods ~
If you don't worship Yahweh, you have no salvation Who says this other than Yahweh?. All religions will tell you that their worship is not in vain, but the Savior says it is. The only Prophecies concerning them are Prophecies of sickness, disease, confusion, hatred, war, death and destruction ...

You Need To Know
We Are Persecuted But Not Forsaken
Religious persecution has not stopped, even in America it continues to this very day. The religions use the news media, which are owned by them.The same Laws that Yahshua taught But this is only whether Yashua even existed, which Icke has proven beyond all doubt that he did not and you would know this snoops...having read the books of Icke..., that caused Yahshua to be persecuted and killed, the established House of Yahweh teaches today.

Neither the news media, nor the religions know why they persecute us today. Because there are paedophiles and abusers of the truth within "Your" SNOOPSSNUFFLEOPAGUS' ranksThey are blind to the Plan of Yahweh. They hate anyone who uses the Name of Yahweh. They hate anyone who keeps the Seventh Day Sabbath according to the Ten Commandments. So why do they persecute those who keep Yahweh's Laws?...



Issue: 12-2004


The Truth About Messiah



@ yahweh.com




Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Now let me ask you snoops, something a little different..

Why then do you ally yourself with an organisation that has molesters in it's ranks?

Why do you give yourself an inviting name, childlike and innocent?

In the next breath you talk too much of the time about not wanting to harm amongst other things, CHILDREN....

Why is there a word within your name that tends towards the obscene!!!!

Icke has talked about these people who are from much the same mindset as you, established religion. He has rejected them and demonised them and now here you are purveying the very same views as these offenders....

Do you have any children of your own? I guess not!!

I wonder why??????

Your homework snoops....

I would like you to present a piece of work based upon all what you have read from the David Icke books proving especially what he says of Yahweh to be wrong!!!!!!

Please answer all the questions above snoops.. Do not skip any and I will think you may deserve my shallow attention....Op

snoopsnuffleopagus
20-12-2007, 10:00 AM
Now let me ask you snoops, something a little different..


ss: k




Why then do you ally yourself with an organisation that has molesters in it's ranks?



SS: ONE Member is involved, not members. He is a Piece of Shit, like you, who infiltrated an Honourable Congregation. Yeddidiyahs actions warrant the Death Penalty under Yahwehs Laws. In no way is this condoned by HoY





Why do you give yourself an inviting name, childlike and innocent?



SS: That is your Perception. My intentions are Benign as are my Postings. This is History.




In the next breath you talk too much of the time about not wanting to harm amongst other things, CHILDREN....


SS: Again, History, since my School Days I have Championed the weak and harmless against Predatory Bullies, such as yourself. My Physique is Robust, Muscular and Healthy, and I have smacked Down numerous Abusive Punks, such as yourself.




Why is there a word within your name that tends towards the obscene!!!!




SS: That line is a 'Classic' with four (4) Exclamation Points!!!!!!


well, I'll tell ya Opie! I scrolled up, gandered at my name for 40 50 seconds, I can't see anything like you suggest as: "Tend to the Obscene'.


Why don't you share that insight with us. I, of course, do not wish to ProLong your departure, but you have 'Piqued my curiosity. so


DO TELL!


Icke has talked about these people who are from much the same mindset as you, established religion. He has rejected them and demonised them and now here you are purveying the very same views as these offenders....



SS: So this is where Optimus Pigpot ACCUSES Snoopsnuffleopagus fof being a Paedophile.



Honestly, I had no idea my ilk were so unwelcome on this Board.


Tear



Do you have any children of your own? I guess not!!

I wonder why??????



SS: I do, and I am Smiling and Laughing that they are nothing like you.


Hey!!! I made a Rhyme!!!! :)



Your homework snoops....

I would like you to present a piece of work based upon all what you have read from the David Icke books proving especially what he says of Yahweh to be wrong!!!!!!



SS: Optimus, you are the Conquered, I present nothing to you.





Optimus Pigpot: Please, Pretty Please, I beg of You, answer all the questions above snoops.. Do not skip any and I will
think you are the WINNER and deserve my deepest, most profound and Heartfelt Apologies....Op





SS: Maybe I'll think about it.........;)



Now go away, I have Work to do hear. SeeYa, Wouldn't Wannbeya!!




Kind Regards & All That Jazz: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
20-12-2007, 11:37 AM
SS: Maybe I'll think about it..[/COLOR].......;)

I sincerely hope you do.... It is not with ill meaning that I wish to cause an issue snoops.... You see I thought you had no ego but I can see that it is bruised. Oh well, an ego bruised is an ego that sets itself up to be bruised.

Now go away, I have Work to do hear. SeeYa, Wouldn't Wannbeya!! [COLOR="purple"]Strange how you thought the battle was won singing victory cries...... Strange how now, you a man of "faith", wishes me to leave.

Kind Regards & All That Jazz: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Quote:
Originally Posted by optimus pigpot
Now let me ask you snoops, something a little different..

ss: k

Quote:
Why then do you ally yourself with an organisation that has molesters in it's ranks?

Quote:
SS: ONE Member is involved, not members. He is a Piece of Shit, Strange how you change when you find your up against it eh!! snoops, who infiltrated an Honourable Congregation. Yeddidiyahs actions warrant the Death Penalty under Yahwehs Laws. In no way is this condoned by HoY. [COLOR="purple"]Are you the head of HoY and if you are not who are you to condone this. God / Yahweh does not condone this, as you say he speaks through the voice of men!!

Quote:




Why do you give yourself an inviting name, childlike and innocent?


SS: That is your Perception So thus you believe in perception. . My intentions are Benign as are my Postings Your postings seek to enlighten those unenlightened by Yahweh to become enligtened and thus cannot be by default "BENIGN" . This is History. No snoops, this is what I am helping your "belief" system to become, exactly that HISTORY.





Quote:
In the next breath you talk too much of the time about not wanting to harm amongst other things, CHILDREN....


SS: Again, History, since my School Days I have Championed the weak and harmless against Predatory Bullies, such as yourself Snoops, you are nothing more than a virtual character over a phone line, you do not exist!!! . My Physique is Robust, Muscular and Healthy, and I have smacked Down numerous Abusive Punks, such as yourself. Here we are again folks, the true side of the religious devotee......... Believe me or, I'll force you to do so!!


Oh!! Please wake up.. Phildee3 and others such as zero1... Snoops may be lost but you do not have to be. Read the books that challenge what "YOU KNOW"!!!!!!!

Quote:
Why is there a word within your name that tends towards the obscene!!!!

SS: That line is a 'Classic' with four (4) Exclamation Points!!!!!!

well, I'll tell ya Opie! I scrolled up, gandered at my name for 40 50 seconds, I can't see anything like you suggest as: "Tend to the Obscene'.

Why don't you share that insight with us. I, of course, do not wish to ProLong your departure, but you have 'Piqued my curiosity. so PIQUE ON FRIEND, PIQUE ON!!!!

Maybe I need to have a brief input now and again to ensure you aren't spilling shit over the side of your wagon!!!!

DO TELL!



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Icke has talked about these people who are from much the same mindset as you, established religion. He has rejected them and demonised them and now here you are purveying the very same views as these offenders....



SS: So this is where Optimus Pigpot ACCUSES Snoopsnuffleopagus fof being a Paedophile.

Not at all my friend, as I said, "these people who are from much the same mindset as you, established religion."


Honestly, I had no idea my ilk were so unwelcome on this Board.

You are not, that is for the mods to decide!!!

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Do you have any children of your own? I guess not!!

I wonder why??????

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SS: I do, and I am Smiling and Laughing that they are nothing like you.

Why not, if they were "FREE"minded people like me!

Hey!!! I made a Rhyme!!!!
Haven't got time!! Seriously how lame, this just shows how badly the world needs changing!!!! BUT NOT TO ANY KIND OF RELIGION!!!!!

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Your homework snoops....

I would like you to present a piece of work based upon all what you have read from the David Icke books proving especially what he says of Yahweh to be wrong!!!!!!


SS: Optimus, you are the Conquered, I present nothing to you.


SO WHERE ARE YOU'RE ICKE LIKE CONCLUSIONS SNOOPS. I'VE POSTED FROM YOUR BOOK OF POO!!!

WHERE'S YOUR'S!!! YOU SHOW ME YOURS BECAUSE I'VE SHOWN YOU MINE!!!


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Optimus Pigpot: Please, Pretty Please, I beg of You, answer all the questions above snoops.. Do not skip any and I will
think you are the WINNER and deserve my deepest, most profound and Heartfelt Apologies....

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SS: Maybe I'll think about it.........



Now go away, I have Work to do hear. SeeYa, Wouldn't Wannbeya!!




Kind Regards & All That Jazz: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
20-12-2007, 06:57 PM
You have: LOST THE PLOT



Take a Break :)

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God (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message477674/pg1)
User ID: 339063
12/20/2007 2:18 PM
Don't Be Afraid of Me Don't Be Afraid of Me


I'm not scary.

I have feelings, emotions

I get happy, sad

I don't want to hurt anybody

Please people, don't associate me with that evil fellow JHVH from the old testament.

All he wanted was to strip my authority, take my throne, he's so jealous of me

Do you really think I would require you to slay all those precious animals, just to appease me?

I love you all so much, I gave my only Son for you

This Christmas, all of you try to get along, whatever religion you believe in, that would make me very happy.

Try not to take everything out of the bible as truth

There's A LOT of gumbly gook in there - a lot of it is true, but also a lot is not.

Don't worry about the bible too much, as Anthony from the Chili Peppers says, "Life is more than just a read through"

There's a party I want to invite you all to.

love - God




anonymous coward
User ID: 339607
12/20/2007 2:41 PM Re: Don't Be Afraid of Me Quote

Christains are such lying sacks of shit. The god
is a fictional character. No power, Doesnt exist.
Pure crapola.

invited i hope! (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message424119/pg183) Re: Question. Is Destiny the... Quote

Question for the Real Destiny...

Aren't you expected to marry the King of Kings soon?

Please tell us the name of the lucky guy!!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/heartflowers.gif


godlikeproductions.com

synergy777
21-12-2007, 12:20 AM
yhwh does not ask for sacrifices, only for prayer and incense.

satan does, just look at sra, sex majick, sacrifices of goats/chickens etc. so all those who try to disprove the most high, only need to look at satanists to know they are wrong.

in fact it could be satanists who try to discredit yhwh and then praise satanism as misunderstood, which is insane and funny.

the times up, the most high will soon cleanse this evil from ourselves and the cosmos.

zero1
21-12-2007, 02:09 PM
yhwh does not ask for sacrifices, only for prayer and incense.

satan does, just look at sra, sex majick, sacrifices of goats/chickens etc. so all those who try to disprove the most high, only need to look at satanists to know they are wrong.

in fact it could be satanists who try to discredit yhwh and then praise satanism as misunderstood, which is insane and funny.

the times up, the most high will soon cleanse this evil from ourselves and the cosmos.

Amen to that, bro. :)

optimus pigpot
21-12-2007, 09:05 PM
yhwh does not ask for sacrifices, only for prayer and incense.

satan does, just look at sra, sex majick, sacrifices of goats/chickens etc. so all those who try to disprove the most high, only need to look at satanists to know they are wrong.

in fact it could be satanists who try to discredit yhwh and then praise satanism as misunderstood, which is insane and funny.

the times up, the most high will soon cleanse this evil from ourselves and the cosmos.

You seem like a really well meaning bloke Synergy but all you are doing is propagting myth when you quote, "yhwh does not ask for sacrifices, only for prayer and incense."

When did anybody ever, prove to us that yahweh is real!

I thought better of you Synergy than to start parading around like the rest of sheeple that inhabit this forum.

in fact it could be satanists who try to discredit yhwh and then praise satanism as misunderstood, which is insane and funny.

Quoted by Synergy, "the times up, the most high will soon cleanse this evil from ourselves and the cosmos. " Who told you this, your fellow bullshitters in arms herotozero1 and snoopsshovelshitIguess? I want proof Synergy, not this mumbo jumbo crap people are peddling. 100% Irrefutable proof please!

Sorry crap posts like this keep bringing me back. Oh and shitforbrainsuphisownarse you still haven't answered any of my questions concerning David Icke you no mark!!!!!!

Still waiting but your probably out buying the book now so as you don't look like a stupid fool. How much have you read of Icke Synergy because it seems like you're always disputing his claims by sucking up to this religion bollocks???????

Peace out and 8 love man, yeah!!! Coolio bro' can you dig this shit....

What??????? Wankbots everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!

optimus pigpot
21-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Amen to that, bro. :)

Amen to WHAT?

Bollocks!!!!!!!

You've just been PURPLED!!!!!!!

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Different Aspects of Lord Shiva (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Teahouse/6538/Shivapage2.html)
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Teahouse/6538/ShivaGanga1.jpg

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Kind Regards

kasalt
22-12-2007, 12:16 AM
From Wikipedia:

Yisrayl Hawkins was interviewed on the Channel 4 web show Thisisaknife about his apocalyptic predictions:

thisisaknife August 31st - Short Version - YouTube

Amongst other things, he claimed that Abilene, Texas would be saved from the impending destruction and invited the show's presenter to join him there so he would be safe.

Despite nuclear war not starting on September 12, his website nonetheless stated that the prophecy had been fulfilled. On September 22, 2006, Hawkins updated the website ( http://www.yisraylhawkins.com ) to change his prediction. He said September 12 was only the starting point for nine months of nuclear war which will kill a third of all humanity, followed by a further four months of war that will darken the skies. He did not explain why there has been no sign of nuclear war since his predicted start date.

Hawkins claims the nine months are analogous to the nine months of a human pregnancy but did not explain how.

A countdown of days remaining until the beginning of nuclear war on 12 September 2006 remained on his website, and ran into the negative for some time. On 2 October 2006, the counter read 10 days until the start of nuclear war, The reason for this change is unknown. The counter has since been removed from his website.

Nuclear war starting June 12, 2007
As of May 7, 2007, a new counter has been put up on his website, counting down to the June 12 date when supposedly, the "Nuclear Baby" (conceived 12 September) will be born.

Recently, Hawkins amended his prediction to state that a nuclear war was only conceived on September 12, 2006, and that it would follow the natural birth cycle of a woman, finally being "born" nine months later on June 12, 2007. Whether the entire nuclear event will take place on that date, or in the months leading up to it is left unclear. He also states that by four months after June 12, October 13, 2007, four-fifths or 80% of the human race will be dead from nuclear war.

There was no nuclear war anywhere on Earth on June 12, 2007. On Yisrayl Hawkin's web site, the counter indicating the time left to the birth of the "Nuclear Baby" has counted into negative numbers, as of June 13, 2007. His credibility has evidently lost ground. As of about August/September 2007, the counter has been removed.

Nuclear war by October 13, 2007
By October 13, 2007, Hawkins' prophecy predicted that four-fifths of the human race would be dead from nuclear war, disease, and other catastrophes. As of October 15, 2007, no nuclear-related events or casualties have been reported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisrayl_Hawkins

octopusrex
22-12-2007, 12:53 AM
Om nama shivaya!

blue
22-12-2007, 02:47 AM
Different Aspects of Lord Shiva (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Teahouse/6538/Shivapage2.html)
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Teahouse/6538/ShivaGanga1.jpg

whats up with shiva? he's just a mythological character, one of the many gods of the hindu gods...

optimus pigpot
22-12-2007, 03:04 AM
whats up with shiva? he's just a mythological character, one of the many gods of the hindu gods...

Keep up the relevance dear boy. Top post......

octopusrex
22-12-2007, 06:25 AM
If you don't know, you dont know..

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Gentlepeople; Cordial Felicitations:


December 31 will be my last Post until May 16th.

The Focus of this Thread is to put forth the: Correct Hebrew Names and Correct Title of Office.

Also, to Highlight the FACT the Torah,( 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes) is a continuous Fundamental Principal of the Entire Book. From Genesis to Revelation.

Also, I presented Yahshua as an example of the full human potential,

utilising 100% of His Brain/Mind Complex.


This may well explain what others describe as: Miracles & Magic.


Yahshua had this ability because Father Yahweh TRUSTED
Him.


Yahweh TRUSTED Yahshua because Yahshua Kept and Obeyed Yahwehs Laws.


Yahshua would not Mis-Use this awesome Power.


The Torah is the Key to the whole Book.



Mattithyah-Matthew


19:16 And behold, one came to Him, and said: Teacher, what righteous thing may I do, so that I may have Eternal Life?


19:17 But He said to him: Why do you question me about righteousness? There is only One Who is the standard of perfection, and that is Yahweh; so if you would enter into Life, keep the Laws of Yahweh.


Dozens if not hundreds more verses in the New Testament amplify the above thought.

I have Posted the Quality Control Verses: Do not add, or take away from or change.


The Book of Revelation was the Final Message until Messiah returns.


KASALTS POST: Adresses a very serious subject: Global Nuclear War.


Yisrayl Hawkins has the Temerity to go out on the Skinny Limb and put a Date on the Nuclear Holocaust.


That Date has come & gone, so of course it will thrown in his face. This is human nature.


Those reveling in 'seeming' to be error, are themselves not aware of why he did this.


Yisrayl has Balls. The Book of Yahweh (any bible) clearly states: When the Poo intersects with the Rotary Cooling device, it will be the beginning of the End of all 'Flesh' on Earth, this is when Yahshua returns, to prevent TOTAL eradication of Life on Earth.

The Planet Earth will be entirely Radio-Active


Now consider this: For the last 16 years; Low-Level Nuclear Warfare has, and is being waged.

This is through usage of Depleted and Non-Depleted Uranium Munitions.

Those informed on this subject know what I am talking about.

Right Now: A new Member: Whale has made a Post about this subject. It is in the General area, 'Covert Radiation Genocide' please read.


Also check out Wayne Madsens take on the B-52 incident.

Tied in with the Israeli Attack on Syrias Nuclear Facility.


DIG THIS :cool:


REVELATION 7: 1-3


1: And after these things I saw four messengers (Malak, Angel) standing on the Four corners of the Earth, holding the Four winds of the Earth, so that the wind should not blow on the Earth, nor on the Sea, nor on any Tree.


2: And I saw another Malak ascending from the East, having the Seal of the Living Father, and he cried with a loud voice to the Four Messengers (Quartet), to whom it was given to hurt the Earth & the Sea.


3: Saying: Hurt not the Earth, neither the Sea, nor the Trees, until we have sealed the Servants of our Father in their Foreheads.



Kasalt has generously provided: One Side of the Story.


The House of Yahweh is an: Open Book


The House of Yahweh position is found at:


yahweh.com



The Prophetic Word Magazine



11-2007


The Nuclear Baby.





To all who are Posting: My Heartfelt Thanks and Gratitude.

They shall serve as a 'Snapshot of the Times'.

An Historical Record of the emotions and thoughts evoked by Yahweh.


I think it is: Awesome



Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
22-12-2007, 10:14 AM
"Despite growing up non-Jewish, having no direct link to Judaism, and no childhood instruction in Judaism, it is of some importance to Hawkins that he be Jewish. He claims to have descended from one of the families of the priesthood and bases this claim largely on the fanciful notion that the name Hawkins is a corruption of Ha Cohen, Hebrew for “the priest.” Of course, such is in no case the true derivation of the name Hawkins."

Source: http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/snbBookOfYahweh.htm

What does Yisrayl Hawkins have to offer us? Lies upon lies upon lies. Take caution with this "House of Yahweh", Snoop, take caution...

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 11:16 AM
"Despite growing up non-Jewish, having no direct link to Judaism, and no childhood instruction in Judaism, it is of some importance to Hawkins that he be Jewish. He claims to have descended from one of the families of the priesthood and bases this claim largely on the fanciful notion that the name Hawkins is a corruption of Ha Cohen, Hebrew for “the priest.” Of course, such is in no case the true derivation of the name Hawkins."

Source: http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/snbBookOfYahweh.htm

What does Yisrayl Hawkins have to offer us? Lies upon lies upon lies. Take caution with this "House of Yahweh", Snoop, take caution...



Thanks for this Kasalt.


Kasalt, I have informed everyone from the beginning I am not a Member.

Yet I, Professor Albert Kaufmen of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and many, many others RECOGNISE the EXCELLENT SCHOLARSHIP.

Particularly the Book of Yahweh, produced by the House of Yahweh.

Anyone who desires to be able to read the Bible and actually be able to understand what is being purveyed by Scripture as derived from Meticulous Research can do a whole lot worse than The Book of Yahweh as their choice for the Reading. You, yourself have no understanding of what this Book says, yet you condemn it and say its worthless.


My Point is: You should at the least, read the Book before condemning it.

The Posts you have provided on the The Book of Yahweh Subject (Mullet jesus, orientalist review) where False, leading people away that may have an interest. You seem pretty insecure.


I am Touched by your concern, but I feel my assessment of your Character in the Rant Room: 'A Dis-Ingenous Phoney' is 'Spot-On'.


You have not answered my queries to you. To be expected for one of such Character.


The Doctrines of the House of Yahweh are the Doctrines of the Book of Yahweh. They are actually Living this, under the Authority of Local Government. Thus no Polygamy or whatever else is illegal under Local Authority.


For Living according to Yahwehs Laws they will be Hated.


I know more than 90% of the ALLEGATIONs are REFUTED, I saw them on one Page, I shall seek.


Kasalt, when I was 18, went to the Orient, well traveled, experienced, seasoned. In New York I have access to any Doctrine that one could possibly imagine. I have explored and sampled many


I think I have excellent discernment and this is borne out in my Life History.



This Thread is Verses and Concepts from The Book of Yahweh


Feel free to attack the Scholarship of the Verses Presented.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

lydia78
22-12-2007, 11:45 AM
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Teahouse/6538/Shiva2.jpg

Another version of Hecate, another demonised goddess. she is the triple headed goddess who oversees the development of women, she was banded in with Lilith and medusa.

Talking of which snoops, you may not like this but although you say lilith has nothing to do with Yahweh, there are alot of references that suggest that Lilith tricked yahweh into giving her his secret name:

"According to the Talmud, Lilith went to Yahweh (God) and tricked him into giving his secret name, his name of power. Because Lilith now had power over Yahweh, she demanded he give her wings and she flew to the desert. Adam begged Yahweh to send Lilith back to him and Yahweh sent the three angels Senoi, Sansenoi and Samangloph to find her and bring her back. They found her on the banks of the Red Sea, copulating with demons, and giving birth to hundreds of demon children. She refused to return.

Adam was given a new mate: Eve. You know the story, they fell from favour with Yahweh and Adam decided upon celibacy. Then Lilith had her revenge. Every night she came to him as succuba, capturing his semen and making demon babies. In some versions of the legend, Samael, the Demon King was one of these and she took him for her mate and companion."
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2214/Temple.htm#Story

And your really not going to like this bit:

"Another legend says that Jehovah (god) and Lilith are actually god and goddess. Although usually the feminine half of god is known as Yahweh."
http://www.lilithgallery.com/library/

Guess you can try and take the yahweh out of lilith but can't take the lilith out of Yahweh. :D;)

kasalt
22-12-2007, 11:49 AM
Regarding the "scholarship" behind the Book of Yahweh:


SACRED NAME BIBLE REVIEWS: THE BOOK OF YAHWEH (Abbr. BOY)

Hawkins is founder, pastor, and overseer of House of Yahweh at Abilene, Texas. He is well known among sacred name people for his failed, then revised prophesies. Beside this dubious distinction as end time prophet, he also lays claim to the title “Yahweh's Last Days Anointed Witness.” These claims would be part and parcel of his teaching that he and his late brother Yaaqob are ( perhaps were?) the two witnesses of the Book of the Revelation. No word is forthcoming from The House of Yahweh on whether Yaaqob has risen from the dead.

The Book of Yahweh, though more extreme than any sacred name bible before it, has most of what we have come to expect to be in a sacred name bible. It replaces the tetragrammaton with Hawkins’ favored pronunciation of the tetragrammaton. It puts Yahweh in places in the Old Testament where the tetragrammaton never was in the Hebrew text. For example at Genesis 1:1 : "In the beginning Yahweh created..." The Hebrew text has Elohim, not Yahweh. But, Hawkins doesn't like the word Elohim.

The Hebrew text of the Old Testament has the tetragrammaton almost seven thousand times. The Book of Yahweh has added Yahweh in so many instances it likely exceeds ten thousand occurrences.

The name Yahweh is repeatedly put into the New Testament where it was not written, never even once, by the original writers. An example from the Gospel of Matthew 11: 20 : "... the malak of Yahweh appeared to him in a dream ..." The Greek text has Theos - God, not Yahweh.

With these and many other changes, this bible revision shows little regard for reason, logic, real scholarship, the original text, or the injunction not to add to the Scriptures. Nevertheless, the editors have a goal and press forward to attain it. BOY outstrips all other sacred name bibles in many areas. It particularly reaches new heights in finding inventive ways to put the word Yahweh before the reader.

Moreover, the reader need not be surprised by this cavalier attitude toward the text. A warning of just such excesses is issued in the preface of the book. Regarding the additions and insertions BOY says, "The House of Yahweh has purposed to go far beyond all other conscientious scholars." It does not fail to achieve this purpose. The word Yahweh is shoe-horned into the text at the slightest opportunity.

Additionally, any House of Yahweh teaching found lacking in scriptural foundation, without hesitation has simply been given a foundation by making up additions to the scriptures.

Jacob's Bethel, becomes Beth Yahweh. (Apparently "EL" - God - like its kindred word Elohim, has incurred the displeasure of Hawkins.) The textually correct kingdom of heaven in Matthew is replaced with Kingdom of Yahweh. Hallelujah (Praise ye Yah) in the Old Testament, and Alleluia in the New Testament have become Hallelu Yahweh, voiding the introductory claims of accuracy made for this version. The disappointment is deepened because of BOY's preface rebuke of most translations for their alteration of Yahweh's Scriptures by words untranslated and mistranslated.

In numerous instances, BOY gives us a hodge podge of translations and substitutions. Amen is a prime example of this. Sometimes it is translated as “so be it.” Other times Hallelu Yahweh is used as a substitute. At some points a mixture of these two is seen as, may it be so, Hallelu Yahweh.

As with other more recent sacred name bibles, The Book of Yahweh has a special distaste for the word Lord and its Hebrew counterparts, Adon and Adonai. When Adon YHWH appears in the O.T. text, Adon is often just overlooked as if it were not there at all. In other instances it becomes Yahweh our Heavenly Father. Again it is Yahweh our Sovereign King. At least once the reader is obliged to see Yahweh, King of the World.

Adonai Yahweh is cast in a similar miscellany of such corrections. We see Our Father Yahweh often. Yahweh our Father is also frequent. Father Yahweh is found upon occasion. With Yahweh my Father, Yahweh your Father, and Yahweh the Father, each getting a turn at substituting for Adonai YHWH.

These changes imply that Adonai can be legitimately translated as some form of father. Adonai in no case means father. This translation is made up from whole cloth. BOY has simply substituted father for a perfectly good Hebrew word which means Lord. Hawkins simply has a strong dislike for the word Lord. He has put it into the same class as Elohim, a pagan word.

None of these translations, rather substitutions, have any basis in real scholarship. Each variation seems to be at the whim of BOY's revisers. Perhaps Hawkins reasoned that Father would make a good substitution for Adonai and he used it as such. Perhaps, and more likely, Hawkins thought God revealed to him that Father should be put into these verses. Such scholarship, while obvious in all sacred name bibles, is prominent in BOY.

These are examples of the pseudo scholarship permeating the Sacred Name Movement. Perhaps this is not simply pseudo scholarship. BOY lets the thinly veiled false anointing (Think of it as a kind of usurped right to change what the bible says.) assumed by many sacred name teachers and by all sacred name bible revisers show through more than most. Because of these and other changes, many sacred name people who are not in the House of Yahweh decry Hawkins’ book as excessive. He has certainly shown a willingness to go where no sacred name bible reviser has gone before.

Such a damaging way of translating, changing, substituting, and revising should not be thought of as unique to BOY. This is the real aim of all sacred name bibles. One of the purposes of such bibles is to put Yahweh into the text as frequently as possible. Another, is to remove even Hebrew and Greek words, especially the name of Jesus, which are not thought proper by the revisers. In both regards BOY is extreme, but it is only extending the liberties taken by earlier sacred name bibles.

All of this brings us to additions into the text in order to explain and clarify. It is a sort of Amplified Bible syndrome with a Sacred Name Movement twist. [Please understand twist as a double entendre’.] BOY has multiplied instances of this kind of revision.

A few examples will illustrate. One, apparently inserted to explain, is in Genesis 49: 26. "... let all these rest on the head of Yahseph; on the crown of the one set apart; consecrated to a specific task, from his brothers." At least BOY has set this addition in italics. Numerous additions are not.

Any number of these insertions seem altogether unnecessary. Leviticus 18: 12 has your aunt put in to explain and clarify "your father's sister." Such minutia say a great about the revisers of BOY and what they thought of the intelligence of their prospective readers.

Sometimes additions play the part of a bible dictionary. Matthew 4: 25 shows such an example. "And a great multitude of people followed Him from Galilee, from Decapolis; the district of the ten cities east of the Sea of Galilee..."

Such additions as these and many, many more could have and should have been put in footnotes. Certainly BOY’s readers would have been better served if such had been the case.

Then there are BOY's changes for the sake of some pet teaching of the revisers. An example of this is in Acts 20: 7, usually translated as “On the first day of the week...” BOY, translated by Sabbath keepers, has "On one of the Sabbaths..." This was done so that Paul and the people at Troas would not be seen as meeting on the first day of the week, but on the seventh day.

The Book of Yahweh takes every opportunity to set the name of its sponsoring organization in the text. At Ephesians 2: 22 the substitution "The House of Yahweh" in place of "habitation of God" is made.

Conforming to The House of Yahweh teaching that a man may have plural wives, BOY at I Timothy 3: 2, has “... in unity as husband and wife” in place of “…the husband of one wife.”

The Book of Yahweh also goes far afield by cutting up and reassembling Paul's words to Timothy concerning eating meats. "Abstain from meats..." of I Timothy 4: 3 when put thorough BOY's grinder comes out as "Abstain from instruction." It is a neat magic trick. This sacred name bible performs it to our amazement.

Since The House of Yahweh does not accept Paul's teaching about the new covenant, BOY is compelled to accomplish some fancy twists and turns in the book of Hebrews. In the eighth chapter, verse seven, it is not the first and second covenants under consideration, it is the first and second priesthoods. Again in verse eight it is not a new covenant, but a “renewed covenant” Paul teaches. In verse nine, BOY quietly forgets to put in the negative "not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers" found in both the Greek of Paul and the Hebrew of Jeremiah whom Paul quotes. Compounding the destruction of these scriptures, verse ten adds the word "same" to teach against the idea of another covenant.

A crescendo of discord is reached at verse thirteen, the last in the chapter. "When he says; 'renew,' He has made the former: original, the first in importance; for that which is former, and grown old, is near to being done away."

The Book of Yahweh fails in its attempt to wrest Paul's words into enough convolutions to conform to The House of Yahweh's concept of no new covenant. The verse is distorted to such an extent as to make no sense at all when compared to Paul's original words. Neither does it clearly teach The House of Yahweh point of view.

One of the most blatant and horrendous additions ever made to the Scriptures is found at Zechariah 5: 5 - 11. The quote is given here just as it appeared in an early edition of BOY. In later editions, much of the spelling, misplaced words, spacing, and punctuation errors were edited out.

This quote is quite long, but is necessary to illustrate what Hawkins has done to these verses. Open your Bible and scan it as you read this quote from BOY.

"5 Then the malak who was speaking with me came forward, and said to me: Lift up your eyes now, and understand that which is sent by commandment.
6 And I asked: What is this? And he answered: This is the ephah; The Standard of Perfection, which is sent by Yahweh's Law. Then he added: This is honor, knowledge, and understanding throughout the whole earth.
7 And behold, the sum total of the heaviest cover; the deception and delusion, was taken. And there was the First Woman; The First Era of The House of Yahweh, established in the midst of ephah; The Standard of Perfection which is sent by Yahweh's Laws.
8 And this is the wickedness: And Satan overthrew the House of Yahweh within the midst of ephah; The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws – by casting the same weight of lead; cover of deception, against her mouth; successfully [sic] suppressing the Word of Yahweh (the Law and the Prophets).
9 Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold: Two women; The Last Two Eras of The House of Yahweh, sent with commandment. The Spirit of Yahweh came to overspread them; and they were covered with the covering of saints. And they exalted, magnified, and extolled the ephah; The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws, separatingthe [sic] of the world from the Way of Yahweh.
10 Then I said to the malak who was speaking with me: Where are they; The Two Witnesses, going with the ephah?
11 And he said to me: To build The House of Yahweh according to The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws, in a Babylonish [sic] land which does not yet exist. And it will be established at that time; when the Two Witnesses are called out to their work; as the Established Place; the Habitation of Yahweh; THE HOUSE OF YAHWEH."

In order to see the egotistical temerity of this man, Hawkins, please compare this horrible addition to the Scriptures with any other version of the Scriptures you may have. Such a pitifully contrived addition to the text could only have been done to accomplish a single goal – that of giving at least the semblance of credibility to Hawkins’ own establishment of the House of Yahweh in Abilene in 1980.

Of course, for the average Bible believer, such action took any and all credibility away from The House of Yahweh. But, perhaps the ardent HOY believers cheered at such an inspired correction of the God's Word.

With its many such changes and additions to comply with the needs of the book's creator, BOY is a defining study of Hawkins and his relationship to his idea of the real Creator. He takes liberties with the scriptures which make other sacred name bible revisers blush. He thinks he has authority greater than all who have gone before him.

The Book of Yahweh has followed the example of all sacred name bibles before it by changing the bible in order to have it conform to the needs of its sponsoring organization. Such revisions have nothing to so with the original text of Scripture. If Hawkins thinks the text is unclear, he clarifies it. If he thinks the text needs an explanation, he adds in words of explanation. If he doesn't like what the text says, he puts in something he does like. It is quite obvious this man thinks he has the authority to do what he will with God's Word.

For most people, extreme is too mild a word to describe this kind of action. But a strong disregard for what the Scriptures say and willingness to add to and change them is very much the mind set of all sacred name teachers. Whether they revise a bible or not, they are willing to revise it as they teach their doctrine. The doctrine demands it.

In the preface of BOY, Hawkins makes direct reference to his manipulation of scripture as "... the corrections Yahweh inspired to be written in his Book." This man actually thinks himself infused with inspiration and authority equal to the apostles and prophets. Some of his followers think his authority equals that of Jesus. He certainly adds, subtracts, or otherwise changes the text on the pretext that it has been corrupted by others throughout history.

The Book of Yahweh demonstrates the results of Hawkins' use of the assumed authority from God. The book is fairly a mockery of the Holy Scriptures.

What else can be said of The Book of Yahweh? It can only be seen, by anyone not under the control of Yisrayl Hawkins, as a perversion of the real Scriptures. It is a terrible attempt to satisfy the ego of one man.

http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/snbBookOfYahweh.htm

blue
22-12-2007, 12:28 PM
If you don't know, you dont know..

you mean regarding shiva.

octopusrex
22-12-2007, 04:44 PM
Siva is...

WONDERFUL.

Kinda like the old testament God of the Jews without pretentions of master-races or of being a nice guy.

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 06:51 PM
Regarding the "scholarship" behind the Book of Yahweh:


SACRED NAME BIBLE REVIEWS: THE BOOK OF YAHWEH (Abbr. BOY)

Hawkins is founder, pastor, and overseer of House of Yahweh at Abilene, Texas. He is well known among sacred name people for his failed, then revised prophesies. Beside this dubious distinction as end time prophet, he also lays claim to the title “Yahweh's Last Days Anointed Witness.” These claims would be part and parcel of his teaching that he and his late brother Yaaqob are ( perhaps were?) the two witnesses of the Book of the Revelation. No word is forthcoming from The House of Yahweh on whether Yaaqob has risen from the dead.

The Book of Yahweh, though more extreme than any sacred name bible before it, has most of what we have come to expect to be in a sacred name bible. It replaces the tetragrammaton with Hawkins’ favored pronunciation of the tetragrammaton. It puts Yahweh in places in the Old Testament where the tetragrammaton never was in the Hebrew text. For example at Genesis 1:1 : "In the beginning Yahweh created..." The Hebrew text has Elohim, not Yahweh. But, Hawkins doesn't like the word Elohim.

The Hebrew text of the Old Testament has the tetragrammaton almost seven thousand times. The Book of Yahweh has added Yahweh in so many instances it likely exceeds ten thousand occurrences.

The name Yahweh is repeatedly put into the New Testament where it was not written, never even once, by the original writers. An example from the Gospel of Matthew 11: 20 : "... the malak of Yahweh appeared to him in a dream ..." The Greek text has Theos - God, not Yahweh.

With these and many other changes, this bible revision shows little regard for reason, logic, real scholarship, the original text, or the injunction not to add to the Scriptures. Nevertheless, the editors have a goal and press forward to attain it. BOY outstrips all other sacred name bibles in many areas. It particularly reaches new heights in finding inventive ways to put the word Yahweh before the reader.

Moreover, the reader need not be surprised by this cavalier attitude toward the text. A warning of just such excesses is issued in the preface of the book. Regarding the additions and insertions BOY says, "The House of Yahweh has purposed to go far beyond all other conscientious scholars." It does not fail to achieve this purpose. The word Yahweh is shoe-horned into the text at the slightest opportunity.

Additionally, any House of Yahweh teaching found lacking in scriptural foundation, without hesitation has simply been given a foundation by making up additions to the scriptures.

Jacob's Bethel, becomes Beth Yahweh. (Apparently "EL" - God - like its kindred word Elohim, has incurred the displeasure of Hawkins.) The textually correct kingdom of heaven in Matthew is replaced with Kingdom of Yahweh. Hallelujah (Praise ye Yah) in the Old Testament, and Alleluia in the New Testament have become Hallelu Yahweh, voiding the introductory claims of accuracy made for this version. The disappointment is deepened because of BOY's preface rebuke of most translations for their alteration of Yahweh's Scriptures by words untranslated and mistranslated.

In numerous instances, BOY gives us a hodge podge of translations and substitutions. Amen is a prime example of this. Sometimes it is translated as “so be it.” Other times Hallelu Yahweh is used as a substitute. At some points a mixture of these two is seen as, may it be so, Hallelu Yahweh.

As with other more recent sacred name bibles, The Book of Yahweh has a special distaste for the word Lord and its Hebrew counterparts, Adon and Adonai. When Adon YHWH appears in the O.T. text, Adon is often just overlooked as if it were not there at all. In other instances it becomes Yahweh our Heavenly Father. Again it is Yahweh our Sovereign King. At least once the reader is obliged to see Yahweh, King of the World.

Adonai Yahweh is cast in a similar miscellany of such corrections. We see Our Father Yahweh often. Yahweh our Father is also frequent. Father Yahweh is found upon occasion. With Yahweh my Father, Yahweh your Father, and Yahweh the Father, each getting a turn at substituting for Adonai YHWH.

These changes imply that Adonai can be legitimately translated as some form of father. Adonai in no case means father. This translation is made up from whole cloth. BOY has simply substituted father for a perfectly good Hebrew word which means Lord. Hawkins simply has a strong dislike for the word Lord. He has put it into the same class as Elohim, a pagan word.

None of these translations, rather substitutions, have any basis in real scholarship. Each variation seems to be at the whim of BOY's revisers. Perhaps Hawkins reasoned that Father would make a good substitution for Adonai and he used it as such. Perhaps, and more likely, Hawkins thought God revealed to him that Father should be put into these verses. Such scholarship, while obvious in all sacred name bibles, is prominent in BOY.

These are examples of the pseudo scholarship permeating the Sacred Name Movement. Perhaps this is not simply pseudo scholarship. BOY lets the thinly veiled false anointing (Think of it as a kind of usurped right to change what the bible says.) assumed by many sacred name teachers and by all sacred name bible revisers show through more than most. Because of these and other changes, many sacred name people who are not in the House of Yahweh decry Hawkins’ book as excessive. He has certainly shown a willingness to go where no sacred name bible reviser has gone before.

Such a damaging way of translating, changing, substituting, and revising should not be thought of as unique to BOY. This is the real aim of all sacred name bibles. One of the purposes of such bibles is to put Yahweh into the text as frequently as possible. Another, is to remove even Hebrew and Greek words, especially the name of Jesus, which are not thought proper by the revisers. In both regards BOY is extreme, but it is only extending the liberties taken by earlier sacred name bibles.

All of this brings us to additions into the text in order to explain and clarify. It is a sort of Amplified Bible syndrome with a Sacred Name Movement twist. [Please understand twist as a double entendre’.] BOY has multiplied instances of this kind of revision.

A few examples will illustrate. One, apparently inserted to explain, is in Genesis 49: 26. "... let all these rest on the head of Yahseph; on the crown of the one set apart; consecrated to a specific task, from his brothers." At least BOY has set this addition in italics. Numerous additions are not.

Any number of these insertions seem altogether unnecessary. Leviticus 18: 12 has your aunt put in to explain and clarify "your father's sister." Such minutia say a great about the revisers of BOY and what they thought of the intelligence of their prospective readers.

Sometimes additions play the part of a bible dictionary. Matthew 4: 25 shows such an example. "And a great multitude of people followed Him from Galilee, from Decapolis; the district of the ten cities east of the Sea of Galilee..."

Such additions as these and many, many more could have and should have been put in footnotes. Certainly BOY’s readers would have been better served if such had been the case.

Then there are BOY's changes for the sake of some pet teaching of the revisers. An example of this is in Acts 20: 7, usually translated as “On the first day of the week...” BOY, translated by Sabbath keepers, has "On one of the Sabbaths..." This was done so that Paul and the people at Troas would not be seen as meeting on the first day of the week, but on the seventh day.

The Book of Yahweh takes every opportunity to set the name of its sponsoring organization in the text. At Ephesians 2: 22 the substitution "The House of Yahweh" in place of "habitation of God" is made.

Conforming to The House of Yahweh teaching that a man may have plural wives, BOY at I Timothy 3: 2, has “... in unity as husband and wife” in place of “…the husband of one wife.”

The Book of Yahweh also goes far afield by cutting up and reassembling Paul's words to Timothy concerning eating meats. "Abstain from meats..." of I Timothy 4: 3 when put thorough BOY's grinder comes out as "Abstain from instruction." It is a neat magic trick. This sacred name bible performs it to our amazement.

Since The House of Yahweh does not accept Paul's teaching about the new covenant, BOY is compelled to accomplish some fancy twists and turns in the book of Hebrews. In the eighth chapter, verse seven, it is not the first and second covenants under consideration, it is the first and second priesthoods. Again in verse eight it is not a new covenant, but a “renewed covenant” Paul teaches. In verse nine, BOY quietly forgets to put in the negative "not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers" found in both the Greek of Paul and the Hebrew of Jeremiah whom Paul quotes. Compounding the destruction of these scriptures, verse ten adds the word "same" to teach against the idea of another covenant.

A crescendo of discord is reached at verse thirteen, the last in the chapter. "When he says; 'renew,' He has made the former: original, the first in importance; for that which is former, and grown old, is near to being done away."

The Book of Yahweh fails in its attempt to wrest Paul's words into enough convolutions to conform to The House of Yahweh's concept of no new covenant. The verse is distorted to such an extent as to make no sense at all when compared to Paul's original words. Neither does it clearly teach The House of Yahweh point of view.

One of the most blatant and horrendous additions ever made to the Scriptures is found at Zechariah 5: 5 - 11. The quote is given here just as it appeared in an early edition of BOY. In later editions, much of the spelling, misplaced words, spacing, and punctuation errors were edited out.

This quote is quite long, but is necessary to illustrate what Hawkins has done to these verses. Open your Bible and scan it as you read this quote from BOY.

"5 Then the malak who was speaking with me came forward, and said to me: Lift up your eyes now, and understand that which is sent by commandment.
6 And I asked: What is this? And he answered: This is the ephah; The Standard of Perfection, which is sent by Yahweh's Law. Then he added: This is honor, knowledge, and understanding throughout the whole earth.
7 And behold, the sum total of the heaviest cover; the deception and delusion, was taken. And there was the First Woman; The First Era of The House of Yahweh, established in the midst of ephah; The Standard of Perfection which is sent by Yahweh's Laws.
8 And this is the wickedness: And Satan overthrew the House of Yahweh within the midst of ephah; The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws – by casting the same weight of lead; cover of deception, against her mouth; successfully [sic] suppressing the Word of Yahweh (the Law and the Prophets).
9 Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold: Two women; The Last Two Eras of The House of Yahweh, sent with commandment. The Spirit of Yahweh came to overspread them; and they were covered with the covering of saints. And they exalted, magnified, and extolled the ephah; The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws, separatingthe [sic] of the world from the Way of Yahweh.
10 Then I said to the malak who was speaking with me: Where are they; The Two Witnesses, going with the ephah?
11 And he said to me: To build The House of Yahweh according to The Standard of Perfection sent by Yahweh's Laws, in a Babylonish [sic] land which does not yet exist. And it will be established at that time; when the Two Witnesses are called out to their work; as the Established Place; the Habitation of Yahweh; THE HOUSE OF YAHWEH."

In order to see the egotistical temerity of this man, Hawkins, please compare this horrible addition to the Scriptures with any other version of the Scriptures you may have. Such a pitifully contrived addition to the text could only have been done to accomplish a single goal – that of giving at least the semblance of credibility to Hawkins’ own establishment of the House of Yahweh in Abilene in 1980.

Of course, for the average Bible believer, such action took any and all credibility away from The House of Yahweh. But, perhaps the ardent HOY believers cheered at such an inspired correction of the God's Word.

With its many such changes and additions to comply with the needs of the book's creator, BOY is a defining study of Hawkins and his relationship to his idea of the real Creator. He takes liberties with the scriptures which make other sacred name bible revisers blush. He thinks he has authority greater than all who have gone before him.

The Book of Yahweh has followed the example of all sacred name bibles before it by changing the bible in order to have it conform to the needs of its sponsoring organization. Such revisions have nothing to so with the original text of Scripture. If Hawkins thinks the text is unclear, he clarifies it. If he thinks the text needs an explanation, he adds in words of explanation. If he doesn't like what the text says, he puts in something he does like. It is quite obvious this man thinks he has the authority to do what he will with God's Word.

For most people, extreme is too mild a word to describe this kind of action. But a strong disregard for what the Scriptures say and willingness to add to and change them is very much the mind set of all sacred name teachers. Whether they revise a bible or not, they are willing to revise it as they teach their doctrine. The doctrine demands it.

In the preface of BOY, Hawkins makes direct reference to his manipulation of scripture as "... the corrections Yahweh inspired to be written in his Book." This man actually thinks himself infused with inspiration and authority equal to the apostles and prophets. Some of his followers think his authority equals that of Jesus. He certainly adds, subtracts, or otherwise changes the text on the pretext that it has been corrupted by others throughout history.

The Book of Yahweh demonstrates the results of Hawkins' use of the assumed authority from God. The book is fairly a mockery of the Holy Scriptures.

What else can be said of The Book of Yahweh? It can only be seen, by anyone not under the control of Yisrayl Hawkins, as a perversion of the real Scriptures. It is a terrible attempt to satisfy the ego of one man.

http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/snbBookOfYahweh.htm



Gentlepeople: Cordial Felicitations



By all means compare Scriptures.

The Sacrednames Group had attempted to Copywrite the Name: Yahweh


They were unsuccessful. Like you, they HATE the House of Yahweh


KASALT: Explain Professor Albert Kaufman, of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Why does he feel: The Book of Yahweh is commendable for its excellent Scholarship?


Kasalt: What about Zondervans Interlinear Translation?


I may switch to that, start another Thread called:


Zondervans Interlinear Book of Yahweh, whats up with that.


So heres a little head start for you to begin investigating Zondervan Publishing.


Kasalt answer my question about Professor Kaufman.



Kasalt: I will be Posting more Verses from the Book of Yahweh, please enjoy.



LYDIA: I am not offended in the least. What you present is Modern Myth.

The Book of Yahweh, first five Books is from 7-800 BCE.


What is the Dates of your Materiel?


Enjoy your Hatred!



Kasalt, Lydia, Optimus: Your Hatred is Poison to your own Blood.


The Passage of Time shall inform you of this.


Be back soon with more Verse from the Book of Yahweh.


Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 07:55 PM
Gentlepeople, Cordial Felicitations:


Notice how Kasalt attacks without being informed on the Subject he attacks.


The Sacredname Group critisises The House of Yahweh for poor Translation, yet their very first example EXPOSES them as the Deficient in Scholarship.


They claim Yisrayl Hawkins replaced the Hebrew word: Elohim with Yahweh.


This is laughable.


Here is why:


In the very First Posts of this Thread, I presented a Chronological Timeline of the Four Common 'Source Texts'



First: The OLDEST Complete Text of the First Five Books is the 'J'ah Text. Dated to 7-800 BCE


This is called the Jah Text, because only the Tetra-Grammaton is used for reference to the Creator Being.

The Tetra-Grammaton is pronounced Yahweh.


This is the Oldest Translation.


150-200 years later came the 'E'lohist Text. The Tetra-Grammaton remains, but the scribes add Dia-Critical Vowel Marks, indicating to the Reader to pronounce Yahweh as El-ohim.

These are the Canaanite gods.


After the 'E'lohist Text came the: 'D'euteronomic Text and The 'P'riestly Text.


So Sacrednames, are reading from a later Text, of course they will find dis-crepancies.

Notice they refer to Yahweh as: god


The Sacrednames Group is OBVIOUSLY using one of the Three Later Sources


Had the Sacrednames Group used a 'J'ah Text, they would not have an argument.


There is No Name or Doctrines more Hated on Earth, hence the Zeal of the Attacks.





Notice: People will tell you the Tetra-Grammaton means: Orgasm, Climax.


They do not realise they are defining the Tri-Grammaton.


As if Moses, Abraham, Yahshua and all the Prophets and Servants of Yahweh are telling you to worship a Climax. :rolleyes:



People will also tell you the Torah is derived from the Tarot.


The Torah instructs asto develop a Robust Moral Character ( which is why it is hated ),

The Tarot does not.


The House of Yahweh teaches the Torah.


I have already explained all this in my earliest Posts, yet, review is always welcome.


KASALT: Your understanding of the Source Texts is what?


The Sacrednames fail to make their case, as they do not understand the Subject.


The First Source Text is the Standard. In a few Posts, I have suggested reading a Prophetic word magazine: 12-2004

The Truth about Messiah


Any Adult could peruse this Issue and determine for Themselves the quality of Scholarship offered by the House of Yahweh.



As always, I laugh at those presenting Proxy Arguments.

Not knowing the Subject themselves they unknowingly offer feeble arguments.


The Sacrednames group is offering a comparison of a Later Text to the Original 'J'ah Text.


Not surprising it is the Sacrednames who are wrong.



KASALT: Examine Zondervans Publishing ( not affiliated in anyway with HoY ): Interlinear Translation of the Book of Yahweh.


This Sacrednames Critique has the same Value as your Orientalist Critique of the Book of Yahweh:


Zero, Zilch, Bupkis!


Since the First Post of this Thread I have advised readers to: Prove to Themselves, take nothing at Face Value.


Exercise: Due-Diligence.


I cannot even say nice try Kasalt, as what you present is Crap, as always.


But even Crap serves as Fertilizer, so I will spread it about this Garden.



As Always, Thank You & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus



KASALT: I still await your replies to my queries. I shall repost the Orientalist Critique and you may join me in a review of the review.


You are so transparent....

lydia78
22-12-2007, 08:46 PM
Gentlepeople: Cordial Felicitations



By all means compare Scriptures.

The Sacrednames Group had attempted to Copywrite the Name: Yahweh


They were unsuccessful. Like you, they HATE the House of Yahweh


KASALT: Explain Professor Albert Kaufman, of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Why does he feel: The Book of Yahweh is commendable for its excellent Scholarship?


Kasalt: What about Zondervans Interlinear Translation?


I may switch to that, start another Thread called:


Zondervans Interlinear Book of Yahweh, whats up with that.


So heres a little head start for you to begin investigating Zondervan Publishing.


Kasalt answer my question about Professor Kaufman.



Kasalt: I will be Posting more Verses from the Book of Yahweh, please enjoy.



LYDIA: I am not offended in the least. What you present is Modern Myth.

The Book of Yahweh, first five Books is from 7-800 BCE.


What is the Dates of your Materiel?


Enjoy your Hatred!



Kasalt, Lydia, Optimus: Your Hatred is Poison to your own Blood.


The Passage of Time shall inform you of this.


Be back soon with more Verse from the Book of Yahweh.


Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus


No Snoop, you can not attribute my post as hateful...have i verbally attacked you in your belief? never. You and I differ in our perspective of the God, so what? variety is the spice of life no? I'm interested in researching Lilith and the supressed feminine aspect of God, you advocate Yahweh which is your calling and i wish you well, many paths and all that, so what's the problem? i was also responding to a past post on lilith and wanted to show you that there are many references of lilith and yahweh....that's it. If you perceive hate in my opinion, your the only one feeling it because that certainly was not the intention.

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 08:49 PM
Gentlepeople, Cordial Felicitations;


The House of Yahweh is the ONLY group on Earth that Teaches the Torah WITHOUT the Talmud.


This is what Yahshua did and was Hated and Despised for it amongst the Yahdaim (jews)


The: WORD of Yahweh is His Laws & Prophecies, which informs the Reader of Yahwehs Plan.


Everybodyelse talks about Gods (generic title of office) plan.


Yahwehs Plan

compared to :


Gods plan




YAHWEHS PLAN: Obey my Laws, after being Properly Trained and Informed, and receive Eternal Life as Part of My Family, to Inherit and Inhabit the Universe.

This is what Yahshua Messiah Promoted and Endorsed.


Gods Plan: Do what thou whilst, you have an Eternal Spirit regardless



I think it is Telling, that one Thread on this Board that presents a NON-MYSTERY DOCTRINE should receive such Ardent, Negative Attention.


Kasalt has yet to address a Single Doctrine I have presented in this Thread, asto Yahwehs Plan.


Reason being: Kasalt is not Fond of Yahweh or His Plan.



Yet Kasalt thought fit to present Channeled Spirit Mullet Jesus to the Board for their perusal. This Channeled Spirit Mullet Jesus must have presented Doctrines Kasalt found more Embraceable, yet not of Yahweh or Yahshua.


Kasalt, you are doing a 'Helluva'' Job of: 'Whippin' the Bishop', you are quite Expert at that.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 08:55 PM
No Snoop, you can not attribute my post as hateful...have i verbally attacked you in your belief? never. You and I differ in our perspective of the God, so what? variety is the spice of life no? I'm interested in researching Lilith and the supressed feminine aspect of God, you advocate Yahweh which is your calling and i wish you well, many paths and all that, so what's the problem? i was also responding to a past post on lilith and wanted to show you that there are many references of lilith and yahweh....that's it. If you perceive hate in my opinion, your the only one feeling it because that certainly was not the intention.



Dates Please, Lydia.


I am Presenting Classical Sheetmusic, everyone else is offering Jazz Themes.


You have made your Position Clear in Prior Posts.



Yahweh, Yahshua and others happen to not be: 90s kinda guys, Oh Well.


There is no actual connection between Yahweh and Lillith. Check the Dates of your source Materiel and it will be much later than 7-800 BCE.


Nothing Personal


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus



Bonus Question: What is the Gender of Satan as rendered by Michylangelos Opus on the Sistine Chapel Ceiling?

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 09:50 PM
Gentle People:


Please Note: ALL the Attackers in this Thread embrace; wittingly or unwittingly, Doctrines of the Mystery Religions.


The Book of Yahweh is not a Mystery.

The Scriptures purpose is to deliver the Torah, as a continuous thread from the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelation.


Nobody else has ever told you this.


Torah Only, no Talmud, No Kabbala, No Gnosticism, no MYSTERY


Yahweh has succeeded in getting His Message out, with Yahshua Messiah Amplifying His Position in the Flesh. As an example to ALL Humankind, asto the Benefits of Keeping Yahwehs Laws.



Notice how all the Mystery Religions try to Co-Opt Yahshua Messiah, and along the way the Laws of Yahweh are: 'Done Away With'.


This is their Common Thread: The Laws are unimportant.




Yet the Laws are the PRIMARY FOCUS.



This INFORMATION IS ALREADY POSTED



The Attackers are closing the proverbial door after the proverbial cow has departed the proverbial Barn.


evilbible.com presents a multitude of weak arguments against the Book of Yahweh.

A single Verse of a poor translation taken out of context.


Looking at the Torah through the Lens of the Penalties.


Mixing the Talmud with the Torah.


Kasalt and his ilk depend on the reader not being informed.


Kasalts Position of the Book of Yahweh: Any Translation at all is worthless.

There is nothing to learn or admire about Yahweh or Yahshua as they are accurately represented in Scripture.


What evilbible.com and my adversaries do not realise: Is that although corrupt Translaters have defiled the Book since the advent of the 'E'lohist Source Text.

Even in the Most Corrupted Texts, the Reader will see the Points I have put forth are Present. Just more Laborious to sift through.


That is why I said: Keep your eye on the Torah.


Everybody wants to: Do Away with the Laws or Cover them with Oral & Written Traditions, ( the Talmud)


The House of Yahweh presents the Torah only, no Talmud.

This makes them Unique & Hated.


Yahshua Messiah presented the Torah only, no Talmud.

This made Him Unique & Hated.


To embrace Father Yahweh and His Plan and Doctrines, as endorsed and Promoted by Yahshua Messiah (jesus) will bring out the Hatred.




SELAH: Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus



Examine the Book of Yahweh, note all the Margin Notes and Footnotes. Every alteration from say a KJV is Notated, presenting the reason for alteration.


Again: Any Adult can examine Two Sample Pages of their work at:


yahweh.com



The Book of Yahweh Section.



First Page of Genesis is presented for examination.


An unbiased Adult should be favourably impressed.


Also the First Page of the Book of John is posted for examination.



The House of Yahweh has nothing to hide. They are an open Book.


Kasalt: I provided the Phone Numbers of HoY. People can call to inquire about the Allegations, they can call to share a Hateful message, or they may not desire to call at all and don't care.


They have the Freedom to make their own choice.



As Always, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
22-12-2007, 11:03 PM
Gentlepeople, Cordial Felicitations:


Other common mis-understandings is Yahweh and Yahshua are the same Being. This is not so:


Yachanan Mark Chapter 12


12:28 Then one of the scribes came, and listened to all their discussion, and had noted how well He answered. So he asked Him; What is the First Commandment of all?


12:29 And Yahshua answered him: The first of all commandments is: Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father, Yahweh is one.


12:30 And you must love Yahweh with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your might.



Deuteronomy Chapter 6


6:4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father, Yahweh is one.

6:5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.



Mattithyah Chapter 4


4:10 Then Yahshua said to her; You get away, Satan! For it is written: Yahweh your Father you must reverence, and Him only you must serve!



Deuteronomy Chapter 6


6:13 Yahweh your Father you must reverence, and Him only you must serve, and by His Name you must take your oaths.




Yachanan (John) Chapter 12


12:49 For I have not spoken on My own; but the Father Who sent Me gave Me the Laws-what I should say and what I should speak.


12:50 And I know that His Laws are life everlasting; so whatever I speak, I am saying exactly what My Father has told Me to say.




Yachanan Chapter 14-


14:28 You have heard that I told you; I go away, but come again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.



So............ When one purports Yahshua Messiah did away with the Laws, I say, Scripture itself proves otherwise. When one purports Yahshua and Yahweh are the same Being, Scripture proves otherwise


Yahshua ESTABLISHED the Laws.


Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
23-12-2007, 01:11 AM
Yet Kasalt thought fit to present Channeled Spirit Mullet Jesus to the Board for their perusal. This Channeled Spirit Mullet Jesus must have presented Doctrines Kasalt found more Embraceable, yet not of Yahweh or Yahshua.

You have your wires crossed Snoops. I have never posted anything about that subject in this thread. I started my own thread on that, into which you jumped (not that I minded). Here's the link:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10134


KASALT: Explain Professor Albert Kaufman, of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Why does he feel: The Book of Yahweh is commendable for its excellent Scholarship?

Kasalt answer my question about Professor Kaufman.

I will answer your question about Professor Kaufman, Snoop, but first answer me this question: What was Kaufman a professor of at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem? What did he teach?

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 01:30 AM
You have your wires crossed Snoops. I have never posted anything about that subject in this thread. I started my own thread on that, into which you jumped (not that I minded). Here's the link:



SS: I am aware it was not Posted in this Thread, yet the question remains,: What Merit do you Perceive in this information?

Kasalt: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10134



Kasalt: I will answer your question about Professor Kaufman, Snoop, but first answer me this question: What was Kaufman a professor of at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem? What did he teach?




SS: Asher Kaufman: Emiritus Professor of Physics


Also an Archeologist. Most interesting studies of Temple Mount.


The House of Yahweh does agree with his findings in this matter.


Mutual Admiration?


Oh No!


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
23-12-2007, 01:52 AM
SS: Asher Kaufman: Emiritus Professor of Physics

Also an Archeologist. Most interesting studies of Temple Mount.


Right, Dr. Asher S. Kaufman is retired Professor of Physics at the Racah Institute of Physics of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In other words, physics is his area of expertise. I do not see how that qualifies him as an expert on this issue of the Book of Yahweh. Get me a bona fide biblical scholar to comment on the scholarship of the Book of Yahweh, not a retired physics professor.

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 02:17 AM
Right, Dr. Asher S. Kaufman is retired Professor of Physics at the Racah Institute of Physics of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In other words, physics is his area of expertise. I do not see how that qualifies him as an expert on this issue of the Book of Yahweh. Get me a bona fide biblical scholar to comment on the scholarship of the Book of Yahweh, not a retired physics professor.



Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:


Born & Raised Jewish


A Lifetime of Study of the Torah, and probably Talmud.

Midrish, Mishnas. A Lifetime immersed in The Book of Yahweh


I would not be surprised if he probably has Kabbala knowledge. A Pre-Requisite of the Kabbala Studies is 30 years study of the Torah. What do you think of that?


So the good Professor is not up to your Standards of Standardness.

Golly :confused:


He is not Retired: He is currently Teaching in a School of International Peace at Notre Dame University. By the way. The Notre Dame Library has a full Collection of the House of Yahweh publications.


He is a Bona-Fide Biblical Scholar who applied his knowledge of the Physical Sciences to determine what he and others agree is: The exact location of the 2nd Temple.


The Foundation Stone


On the Temple Mount to the North of the Dome of the Rock.


By building the Third Temple on Temple Mount. The Instructions provided in the Books of Ezekiel and Revelation reveal the Temple omits the outter Courtyard and fits nicely NEXT to the Dome of the Rock.


The Third Temple and the Dome of the Rock, side by side.


As you may imagine this is quite controversial.


Professor Kaufman has adequate Credentials to support his assessment of the quality of the Book of Yahweh as produced by the House of Yahweh..


Now answer some of my queries.


1: When I return in May, I will utilise another Translation, no House of Yahweh materiel at all, WHAT SAY YOU?

2: Since alternate Translations are very abundant, is there a Doctrine or Conclusion or Premise I have put forth in this Thread you dispute?


3: Please share your opinion of the Torah with us, as this is the entire underpinning of the Book of Yahweh.


Thank You & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
23-12-2007, 02:21 AM
Cult leader's [Ex-]wife delighted with magazine's portrayal
Abilene Reporter-News
By ANTHONY WILSON

While many Abilenians might consider "Texas Monthly's" cover story on cult leader Yisrayl Hawkins an embarrassment, Kay Hawkins calls it a godsend.

"The Heavenly Father has granted my prayers," the ex-Mrs. Yisrayl Hawkins said Thursday, shortly after reading the article. " 'Texas Monthly' shows you the true man."

The magazine's July issue boasts an ominous black cover with the warning, "Abilene's House of Yahweh believes ... Satan is a woman, the Pope is her puppet, and the world will end in three years." The accompanying article probes Hawkins' rise as leader of a cult based on rigid adherence to 613 laws.

While Kay Hawkins has been agreeable to interview requests, her former husband has met with only a handful of television reporters. He reportedly thought "Texas Monthly" was a TV show, asking senior editor Robert Draper the whereabouts of his camera crew when he arrived at the cult's Eula compound.

Draper's piece chronicles Buffalo Bill Hawkins' rise from rockabilly ne'er-do-well to Abilene cop to preacher.

Sources accuse Hawkins of manipulating religious texts and his idealistic followers for personal gain. And Kay Hawkins admits she helped, doing much of her husband's research and writings for him, believing she was married to one of Yahweh's two holy messengers.

Not until Hawkins sanctioned multiple marriages did his wife come to believe he was a fraud.

"This man is not the man I thought I knew," she said.

She praised Draper for painting a "right on the money" portrait of her ex, saying he erred only in reporting the couple had two children instead of five.

His late brother, Jacob, who led a House of Yahweh congregation in Odessa, allegedly wrote his sibling was "deliberately deceiving" followers. And the magazine quotes a brother-in-law calling Hawkins one of the world's biggest liars.

Although Hawkins has preached the world will end in nuclear holocaust in October 2000, Kay Hawkins is certain the cult won't do anything rash as did the Branch Davidians or Heaven's Gate members.

"There's no profit in a person dying," she explained, saying Hawkins has stashed an "enormous" bankroll somewhere.

"When 2000 comes and it's a bright and sunny day ... he'll change his story like he has before," she said. "In the Bible, the Messiah says, 'No man knows the day or hour, not the Son of Man, but my Father only.' He's put his foot in his mouth this time."

She added, "It's my prayer the House of Yahweh one day will return to the purpose of serving the creator and not the man."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/yahweh/yahweh10.html

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 02:57 AM
Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:


Had you ever read the Book of Yahweh (any bible version), you would be aware Yahweh has utilised all kinds of Characters


The Prophets, wasn't it Isayah who walked around Jerusalem for three years Buck Naked. My goodness, what would you have to say about him Kasalt. I know!


Kasalt opining about Isayah: Lookit dat damn Yahweh fool, walking about with no clothes on. Man! He is Out to Lunch!! and then some


Or Samson: A Hard Drinker and Whoremonger, yet a servant of Yahweh, what of Him or the Hooker who helped Yahshua Ben Nun capture Jerico?


What of Cyrus the Great?


Cornelius the Roman?


The Talking Donkey?


Buffalo Bill married poorly: His wife did not evolve with him.

Many good men have been disparaged by their former spouses.

You really should respond to some of my queries.


Don't sugar-coat them either.

And Kasalt; since you are spending so much energy and time here, please introduce yourself to the Readers and share your beliefs and Avatars, Teachers, Doctrines.
this could be good comparative 'Schools of Thought'


Snoop Representin': Book of Yahweh


Kasalt Representin': ?

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
23-12-2007, 02:59 AM
Cordial Felicitations Kasalt:


Born & Raised Jewish

Yes, unlike "Yisrayl" Hawkins, who only claims--and falsely so--to be Jewish. He can't even get the derivation of his name correct! Hawkins is not derived from "Ha Cowen" as he laughably claims. If he cannot even interpret his name correctly, so how am I supposed to assume that he can interpret the scriptures?

A Lifetime of Study of the Torah, and probably Talmud.

Midrish, Mishnas. A Lifetime immersed in The Book of Yahweh

I would not be surprised if he probably has Kabbala knowledge. A Pre-Requisite of the Kabbala Studies is 30 years study of the Torah. What do you think of that?

So the good Professor is not up to your Standards of Standardness.

Golly :confused:

Professor Kaufman has adequate Credentials to support his assessment of the quality of the Book of Yahweh as produced by the House of Yahweh..

Why is it that you can only find ONE Jewish physics professor who will endorse the "Book of Yahweh"? And NO, he isn't up to standards. Get me a biblical scholar who endorses the Book of Yahweh, not a physics prof.

1: When I return in May, I will utilise another Translation, no House of Yahweh materiel at all, WHAT SAY YOU?

Fine and dandy. Good for you.

2: Since alternate Translations are very abundant, is there a Doctrine or Conclusion or Premise I have put forth in this Thread you dispute?

Why should I bother disputing a belief that you have put forth? Can a belief be proven? Can a belief be disproven? If they could, they would no longer be beliefs, would they! Beliefs are irrelevant to the facts.

3: Please share your opinion of the Torah with us, as this is the entire underpinning of the Book of Yahweh.

My opinion of the Torah is that it is arguably the most Draconian document ever written, originating overwhelmingly from the reptilian brains of its authors.

Note: "Draconian" refers to:

-Laws created by Draco, an Athenian law scribe under which small offenses had heavy punishments. The stringency of his legal code gave rise to the modern English word "draconian," meaning marked by extreme severity or cruelty, especially about laws or governments.
-Draconian bloodline refers to the belief in conspiracy theories and popular fiction of an alien/Reptilian humanoid bloodline

Source: Draconian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 03:33 AM
Kasalt: Yes, unlike "Yisrayl" Hawkins, who only claims--and falsely so--to be Jewish. He can't even get the derivation of his name correct! Hawkins is not derived from "Ha Cowen" as he laughably claims. If he cannot even interpret his name correctly, so how am I supposed to assume that he can interpret the scriptures?

SS: Why do you think one man is soley responsible for the Work?

As far as I know, a TEAM is required for such a large project.




Kasalt: Why is it that you can only find ONE Jewish physics professor who will endorse the "Book of Yahweh"? And NO, he isn't up to standards. Get me a biblical scholar who endorses the Book of Yahweh, not a physics prof.


SS: Hey, you're the researcher. The entire spectrum of reviews are out there for whoever wants to investigate. Sample Pages at: yahweh.com for whoever wnts to peruse them.

Your assessment of Professor Kaufmans opinion reeks of jealousy.

This is an educated man of Science. He is not a One Note Melody nor a One Trick Pony. Are you?

His Credentials are Superb. If you cannot perceive this, the fault lies with you.


Kasalt: Fine and dandy. Good for you.



SS: Gosh! A little snippy eh! You say: 'Good for You' yet I detect sarcasm, I do not feel the love and warmth of an enlightened Being.

You really would prefer I don't Post on Yahweh or Yahshua at all? Yet you Posted a Mullet Jesus Channeled Spirit report.

What was up with that?



Kasalt: Why should I bother disputing a belief that you have put forth? Can a belief be proven? Can a belief be disproven? If they could, they would no longer be beliefs, would they! Beliefs are irrelevant to the facts.



SS: Kasalt, the points put forth are backed up by Black & White Print, any Translation you want.

The Book actually says something, this is not a belief, it is a reality.

The Base Premise of this Thread is: What does the Book actually Say.


Again, the fault lies with you as you do not know what the Book says.


Remember, mon amie, there is no MYSTERY




Kasalt: My opinion of the Torah is that it is arguably the most Draconian document ever written, originating overwhelmingly from the reptilian brains of its authors.

Note: "Draconian" may refer to:

-Laws created by Draco, an Athenian law scribe under which small offenses had heavy punishments. The stringency of his legal code gave rise to the modern English word "draconian," meaning marked by extreme severity or cruelty, especially about laws or governments.
-Draconian bloodline refers to the belief in conspiracy theories and popular fiction of an alien/Reptilian humanoid bloodline

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draconian




SS: Of course you do, this is of course your conclusion based upon careful study. Why then the interest in Yahshua?

How could Yahshua Messiah promote and endorse such a Horrible Document?

Are we to believe your knowledge and insight is Greater than Yahshua Messiah?


Do Tell.



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
23-12-2007, 03:33 AM
His tiresome quotations simply defy belief when the only thing he offers is the book of yahweh!!

He is not an intelligent man (having not responded to any of my questions about how much Icke he has read), so yes snoops hasn't lost the argument as there was no argument in the first place....... He simply has no point to make....

Much admiration for your work Kasalt......

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 05:29 AM
Gentlepeople, Cordial Felicitations:


All this Mud Slinging brings to mind a story of King David.


King David, a major character in The Book of Yahweh, himself sinned greatly, became aware in his own mind of his wrongdoing and repented and atoned.


David had risen from a Shepard to become King of Yahdah (Judea), as a King, he wanted for nothing. He had unknowable wealth and many wives & concubines.


And Yet........


There was a woman he desired that was not his to have.


She was the wife of Uriah, a Trusted Friend and General.

King David made arrangements for the death of Uriah occur on the Battlefield, and thus take Uriahs wife.


Pretty Rotten? HUH?


Yahweh sent the Prophet Nathan to King David



II SAMUYL: Chapter 12



12:1 Yahweh sent Nathan to David. He came to him, and said; There were two men in the city, one was rich, the other was poor.


12:2 The rich man had a very large number of flocks and herds.


12:3 But the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb he had bought. He nourished it, and it grew up together with him and his children. It ate his own food, drank from his own cup, and slept in his arms. It was like a daughter to him.


12:4 Now a traveler came to the rich man, but the rich man refused to take from his own flock and from his own herd to prepare for the man who came to him, so he took the poor mans lamb and prepared it for the man who came to him.


12:5 Then Davids anger burned against that man, and he said to Nathan, as surely as Yahweh lives, the man who has done this deserves to be put to death!


12:6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and because he had no pity.


12:7 Then Nathan said to David; You are the man........







I, myself, am far from sinless.


I understand


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
23-12-2007, 09:38 AM
Tigger, with a capital T.......

This is still the same crap you spout snoops...... Your book of yahweh is crap!!! Were you there when these events happened? No, you were not there and you still YOU have not answered my QUESTION, ABOUT HOW MUCH OF DAVID ICKE HAVE YOU READ!!!!!!!
Op

snoopsnuffleopagus
24-12-2007, 11:48 PM
GENTLEPEOPLE, A Reprise for your perusal:







The Book of Mattithyah(Gift of Yahweh)(matthew)

1:18 Now this is how the Birth of Yahshua Messiah came about: When His mother Miriam had been betrothed to Yahseph, and before they came together, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

1:19 Then Yahseph her Husband, being a just man, and not willing to expose her to public humiliation, had in mind to divorce her quietly.

1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, the malak of Yahweh appeared to him in a dream, saying: Yahseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miriam as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is through the Holy Spirit.

1:21 And she will give birth to a Son, and you will call His name Yahshua(Yahweh is Salvation); for Yahweh will save His people from their sins.

1:22 Now all this was done to fulfill what Yahweh had spoken through the Prophet, saying:

1:23 Behold, a virgin will conceive, and bear a Son, and will bring forth the sign IMMANUYAH-which means, to bring forth the sign that 'Yahweh of Hosts is With Us'.

1:24 When Yahseph awoke from sleep, he did as the malak of Yahweh had commanded him, and brought Miriam home to him as his wife.

1:25 But had no relations with her until she had given birth to her firstborn Son, and he called His Name Yahshua.

Shalom & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

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25-12-2007, 02:13 AM
...A Reprise...Kasalts Position of the Book of Yahweh: Any Translation at all is worthless.

There is nothing to learn or admire about Yahweh or Yahshua as they are accurately represented in Scripture.

There is NOT a need for any dream to be Reprised or for that metter the sac to be reptured, .. as a morning breath brings somthing else than the light of a any dream can have --s-c ripture-- seek repture -as- sac-repture --see picture (http://weblogs.nrc.nl/weblog/tango/wp-content/uploads/august/condor.jpg) --to pass -- pas is a dog in sl. sirius is a dog star -- dog is at the door - krava pase travu (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:NxHAgBw9BhIJ:bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korisnik:Bvully+krava+pase+travu+wiki&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=nl) -cow eats grass (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:3cP3KlqjNdQJ:yourcraftfinder.com/funfingerplay.cfm%3Ffingerplayid%3D28+cow+eats+gra ss&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=nl)- pase ..in sl. is a verb word -8s >> "krava pase travu" becomes "kravare pasare travare" Language game (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:bEL2zPLK3S4J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_(linguistics)+krava+pase+travu+wiki&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=nl)
Con-dor Pasa
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
sirius is is a cow 2.. now >>
10 sentences about cow? - Yahoo! Answers India- [ In-di-a ]
Cow has two thorns. Cow has a long tail. Cow eats grass. Cow is mammal. ... cow gives us milk. Cows eat grass and hay. Cows can be a lot of colors. ...
in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070911031928AAAkGEY&show=7

popwat
25-12-2007, 02:42 AM
Helo all,

It is good to know that I'm not alone in my thought processes of NWO,money, IRS, medicine, relgion, The whole nine.

Glad to be a part of the group

kasalt
25-12-2007, 03:10 AM
Wikipedia -- "Jahwist" text:
Jahwist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Literary Terms and Definitions: Yahwist Text
http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/lit_terms_Y.html

YAHWIST TEXT (aka J Text): In biblical studies, this textual tradition contrasts with the E Text and the P Text appearing in Genesis and other parts of the Torah. As for the abbreviation "J," in German transliteration of Hebrew, the letter "J" is used for "Y." Thus, scholars today refer to the "J Text" or the Yahwist Text when they discuss a textual tradition referring to God as Yahweh or Yahweh Elohim but which never refers to God as Elohim alone.

The J Text was once thought to have been written about 999-800 BCE, but more recent scholarship suggests it should be dated after the period of exile (597, 587/586 BCE). It is written in a dialect we associated with the city of Jerusalem and the kingdom of Judah, the more southerly of the tribal nations. This contrasts with the E Text, in which the material is associated linguistically with the region of Ephraim and which probably dates between 799-700 BCE. These two textual traditions of the E Text and the J text probably existed independently of each other for some time, but the northern kingdom of Israel was destroyed toward the end of the eighth century. The priests of Judah seem to have incorporated the E Text into their J Text tradition after that. This resulted in occasional duplications and repetition of detail in the Pentateuch; often the same tale would be told twice, once with a northern orientation and once with a southern perspective. We can see the same phenomenon in the biblical books of Kings and Chronicles. The resulting blend, complete with more recent additions such as late foreign loanwords, late religious rituals like the Sabbath, and imagery borrowed from Mesopotamian poetry and religions, is called the "P Text" or the Priestly Document. If students are reading a study Bible like the Anchor Bible series, the editors helpfully mark which sections come from the E Text, the J Text, and the P Text. A sample of material that comes from the J Text includes the material in Genesis 1:1-2:3, which probably was actually written much later than the subsequent material in Genesis 2:4 and afterward. Click here for a more detailed discussion:

What Are the J, E, and P Texts of Genesis?
http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/Genesis_texts.html

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-12-2007, 03:45 AM
Avast Matey!



Still I wonder how it is to be a bird,
Singing each dawns sweet effusions;
Flying far away when all the world has stirred
Yet seek no vain conclusions . . . . . .peter sinfield



Felicitations Cordiale: Sn:):)psnuffle:)pagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-12-2007, 03:56 AM
Cordial Felicitations Popwat:


Welcome to the Forum.


I shall look forward to your input.

There are sections for every thought, make yourself: At Home :)



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-12-2007, 04:05 AM
Por Edit:



Where Have I Known You Before

Where have I known you before
Where did we play among galaxies bright
Laughing and dancing, creating each night
Deciding the course, to then venture on out
Love, you, space and I
Free from fear, free from doubt
Where have I known you before

Where have I loved you before
Was it just yesterday
Or millenia ago
I kissed, touched, held and needed you so
Your face is different
Yet you, you're you, just you
Still glowing and silvery bright
Wonderous dancingly bright
I knew you the moment you entered my room
That infinite eternal night
Where have I loved you before


Where have I hurt you before
Where did I hurt you so deep - so deep
To hear you say you knew me not
When you alone could save me there
And free me from that tyrant's keep
Defender of the Vulcan worlds
Where filled my mind with blackened sleep

Where did I lose you before
Was it when you gave your life
To save that Pharoah king
Or when our golden mothership took flight
Far away from Saturn's rings
Was it when we made the pact
Then drifted into violet space
So certain we would meet the other side
But there was no such place
Where did I lose you before



Where have I known you before
The moment I saw you I knew
I had found again the singer of a thousand songs
That haunted my every dream
The painter of the colours of my mind
Reminding me of places we had been
I'm seeing clearer now - the truth unfolds
The past all drifts away
You're back again my dearest friend

You never went away




neville potter




Until we meet again, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

kasalt
25-12-2007, 04:15 AM
Here's some Yahwist text-based preaching I found on the net. Thought you might find this interesting, Snoop...

The Meaning of Original Human Experiences

The analysis of the first chapters of Genesis forces us, in a way, to reconstruct the elements that constitute man's original experience. In this sense, the character of the Yahwist text makes it a special source. Speaking of original human experiences, we have in mind not so much their distance in time, as rather their basic significance. The important thing is not that these experiences belong to man's prehistory (to his "theological prehistory"), but that they are always at the root of every human experience. That is true even if in the evolution of ordinary human existence, little attention is paid to these essential experiences. They are so intermingled with the ordinary things of life that we do not generally notice their extraordinary character.

On the basis of the analyses carried out up to now, we have already realized that what we called at the beginning the "revelation of the body," helps us somehow to discover the extraordinary side of what is ordinary. That is possible because the revelation (the original one, expressed first in the Yahwist account of Genesis 2:3, then in the text of Genesis 1) takes into consideration precisely these primordial experiences. In them, there appears almost completely the absolute originality of what the male-female human being is: as a man, that is, also through his body. As we discover it in the biblical text quoted, man's experience of his body is certainly on the threshold of his whole subsequent "historical" experience. However, it also seems to rest at such an ontological depth that man does not perceive it in his own everyday life. This is so even if at the same time, and in a certain way, he presupposes it and postulates it as part of the process of formation of his own image.

Without this introductory reflection, it would be impossible to define the meaning of original nakedness and tackle the analysis of Genesis 2:25, which runs as follows: "And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed." At first sight, the introduction of this detail, apparently a secondary one in the Yahwist account of man's creation, may seem something inadequate or misplaced. One would think that the passage quoted cannot bear comparison with what has been dealt with in the preceding verses and that, in a way, it goes beyond the context. However, this judgment does not stand up to a deeper analysis. Genesis 2:25 presents one of the key elements of the original revelation. It is as decisive as the other texts of Genesis 2:20 and 2:23, which have already enabled us to define the meaning of man's original solitude and original unity. To these is added, as the third element, the meaning of original nakedness, clearly stressed in the context. In the first biblical draft of anthropology, it is not something accidental. On the contrary, it is precisely the key for its full and complete understanding.

This element of the ancient biblical text makes a specific contribution to the theology of the body that absolutely cannot be ignored. Further analyses will confirm this. But before undertaking them, I take the liberty of pointing out that the text of Genesis 2:25 expressly requires that the reflections on the theology of the body should be connected with the dimension of man's personal subjectivity. It is within the latter that consciousness of the meaning of the body develops. Genesis 2:25 speaks about it far more directly than other parts of that Yahwist text, which we have already defined as the first recording of human consciousness.

The sentence, according to which the first human beings, man and woman, "were naked" and yet "were not ashamed," unquestionably describes their state of consciousness, in fact, their mutual experience of the body. It describes the experience on the part of the man of the femininity that is revealed in the nakedness of the body and, reciprocally, the similar experience of masculinity on the part of the woman. By saying that "they were not ashamed," the author tries to describe this mutual experience of the body with the greatest precision possible for him. It can be said that this type of precision reflects a basic experience of man in the "common" and pre-scientific sense. But it also corresponds to the requirements of anthropology and in particular of contemporary anthropology, which likes to refer to so-called fundamental experiences, such as the "experience of shame."

Referring here to the precision of the account, such as was possible for the author of the Yahwist text, we are led to consider the degrees of experience of historical man, laden with the inheritance of sin. However, these degrees methodically start precisely from the state of original innocence. We have already seen that, referring to "the beginning" (which we have subjected here to successive contextual analyses), Christ indirectly established the idea of continuity and connection between those two states. This allows us to move back from the threshold of man's historical sinfulness to his original innocence. Genesis 2:25 makes it especially necessary to cross that threshold.

This passage, together with the meaning of original nakedness inherent in it, takes its place in the contextual setting of the Yahwist narrative. After some verses, the same author writes: "Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked, and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons" (Gn 3:7). The adverb "then" indicates a new moment and a new situation following the breaking of the first covenant. This situation follows the failure of the test connected with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. At the same time that test constituted the first test of "obedience," that is, listening to the Word in all its truth and accepting love, according to the fullness of the demands of the creative Will. This new moment or new situation also implies a new content and a new quality of experience of the body, so that it can no longer be said: "They were naked, but were not ashamed." Here, shame is an experience that is not only original, but a "boundary" one.

The difference of formulations that divides Genesis 2:25 from Genesis 3:7 is significant-in the first case, "They were naked, but they were not ashamed"; in the second case, "They knew that they were naked." Does that mean that, to begin with, "They did not know that they were naked," or that they did not see the nakedness of each other's body? The significant change testified by the biblical text about the experience of shame (of which Genesis speaks again, especially in 3:10-12), takes place at a deeper level than the pure and simple use of the sense of sight.

A comparative analysis of Genesis 2:25 and Genesis 3 leads necessarily to the conclusion that it is not a question here of passing from "not knowing" to "knowing." Rather, it involves a radical change of the meaning of the original nakedness of the woman before the man and of the man before the woman. It emerges from their conscience, as a fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil: "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" (Gn 3:11).

This change directly concerns the experience of the meaning of one's body before the Creator and creatures. Subsequently, the man's words confirm this: "I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself" (Gn 3 :10). That change, which the

Yahwist text portrays so concisely and dramatically, concerns directly - perhaps in the most direct way possible - the man-woman, femininity-masculinity relationship.

We will have to return again to the analysis of this change in other parts of our further reflections. Now, having arrived at that border which crosses the sphere of the "beginning" to which Christ referred, we should ask ourselves if it is possible to reconstruct, in some way, the original meaning of nakedness. In Genesis, nakedness constitutes the immediate context of the doctrine about the unity of the human being as male and female. That seems possible, if we take as a reference point the experience of shame as it was clearly presented in the ancient biblical text as a "liminal" experience. We shall attempt this reconstruction in our following meditations.

Source (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/audiences/catechesis_genesis/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_19791212_en.html)


THE SECOND ACCOUNT OF CREATION: THE SUBJECTIVE DEFINITION OF MAN

With reference to Christ's words on the subject of marriage, in which he appealed to the "beginning," we directed our attention last week to the first account of man's creation in the first chapter of Genesis. Today we shall pass to the second account, which is frequently described as the "Yahwist," since it uses the name "Yahweh" for God.

The second account of man's creation (linked to the presentation both of original innocence and happiness and of the first fall) has by its nature a different character. While not wishing to anticipate the particulars of this narrative—because it will be better for us to recall them in later analyses—we should note that the entire text, in formulating the truth about man, amazes us with its typical profundity, different from that of the first chapter of Genesis.

Ancient description

It can be said that it is a profundity that is of a nature particularly subjective, and therefore, in a certain sense, psychological. The second chapter of Genesis constitutes, in a certain manner, the most ancient description and record of man's self-knowledge. Together with the third chapter it is the first testimony of human conscience. A reflection in depth on this text—through the whole archaic form of the narrative, which manifests its primitive mythical character(1)—provides us in nucleo with nearly all the elements of the analysis of man, to which modern, and especially contemporary philosophical anthropology is sensitive. It could be said that Genesis 2 presents the creation of man especially in its subjective aspect. Comparing both accounts, we conclude that this subjectivity corresponds to the objective reality of man created "in the image of God." This fact also is—in another way—important for the theology of the body, as we shall see in subsequent analyses.

First human being

2. It is significant that in his reply to the Pharisees, in which he appealed to the "beginning," Christ indicated first of all the creation of man by referring to Genesis 1:27: "The Creator from the beginning created them male and female." Only afterward did he quote the text of Genesis 2:24. The words which directly describe the unity and indissolubility of marriage are found in the immediate context of the second account of creation. Its characteristic feature is the separate creation of woman (cf. Gn 2:18-23), while the account of the creation of the first man is found in Genesis 2:5-7.

The Bible calls the first human being "man" ('adam), but from the moment of the creation of the first woman, it begins to call him "man" (ish), in relation to ishshah ("woman," because she was taken from the man—ish).(2)

It is also significant that in referring to Genesis 2:24, Christ not only linked the "beginning" with the mystery of creation, but also led us, one might say, to the limit of man's primitive innocence and of original sin. Genesis places the second description of man's creation precisely in this context. There we read first of all: "And the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man; then the man said: 'This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man'" (Gn 2:22-23). "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh" (Gn 2:24). "And the man and his wife were both naked, and they were not ashamed" (Gn 2:25).

Tree of knowledge

3. Immediately after these verses, chapter 3 begins with its account of the first fall of the man and the woman, linked with the mysterious tree already called the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" (Gn 2:17). Thus an entirely new situation emerges, essentially different from the preceding. The tree of knowledge of good and evil is the line of demarcation between the two original situations which Genesis speaks of.

The first situation was that of original innocence, in which man (male and female) was, as it were, outside the sphere of the knowledge of good and evil, until the moment when he transgressed the Creator's prohibition and ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge. The second situation, however, was that in which man, after having disobeyed the Creator's command at the prompting of the evil spirit, symbolized by the serpent, found himself, in a certain way, within the sphere of the knowledge of good and evil. This second situation determined the state of human sinfulness, in contrast to the state of primitive innocence.

Even though the "Yahwist" text is very concise, it suffices with clarity to differentiate and to set against each other those two original situations. We speak here of situations, having before our eyes the account which is a description of events. Nonetheless, by means of this description and all its particulars, the essential difference emerges between the state of man's sinfulness and that of his original innocence.(3)

Systematic theology will discern in these two antithetical situations two different states of human nature: the state of integral nature and the state of fallen nature. All this emerges from that "Yahwist" text of Genesis 2-3, which contains in itself the most ancient word of revelation. Evidently it has a fundamental significance for the theology of man and for the theology of the body.

The "Yahwist" text

4. When Christ, referring to the "beginning," directed his questioners to the words written in Genesis 2:24, he ordered them, in a certain sense, to go beyond the boundary which, in the Yahwist text of Genesis, runs between the first and second situation of man. He did not approve what Moses had permitted "for their hardness of heart." He appealed to the words of the first divine regulation, which in this text is expressly linked to man's state of original innocence. This means that this regulation has not lost its force, even though man has lost his primitive innocence.

Christ's reply is decisive and unequivocal. Therefore, we must draw from it the normative conclusions which have an essential significance not only for ethics, but especially for the theology of man and for the theology of the body. As a particular element of theological anthropology, it is constituted on the basis of the Word of God which is revealed. During the next meeting we shall seek to draw these conclusions.

Source (http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2tb3.htm)



MAN'S AWARENESS OF BEING A PERSON

In the preceding talk we began to analyze the meaning of man's original solitude. The Yahwist text gave us the starting point, in particular by the following words: "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him" (Gn 2:18). The analysis of the relative passages in the second chapter of Genesis has already brought us to surprising conclusions which concern the anthropology, that is, the fundamental science about man, contained in this book. In relatively few sentences, the ancient text portrays man as a person with the subjectivity that characterizes him.

God-Yahweh gave this first man, so formed, the order that concerned all the trees that grew in the garden of Eden, especially the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This adds to the features of the man, described above, the moment of choice and self-determination, that is, of free will. In this way, the image of man, as a person endowed with a subjectivity of his own, appears before us, completed in his first outline.

The concept of original solitude includes both self-consciousness and self-determination. The fact that man is "alone" conceals within it this ontological structure and at the same time indicates true comprehension. Without that, we cannot understand correctly the subsequent words, which constitute the prelude to the creation of the first woman: "I will make a helper." But above all, without that deep significance of man's original solitude, it is not possible to understand and interpret correctly the whole situation of man, created in the image of God, which is the situation of the first, or rather original, covenant with God.

Partner of the Absolute

2. The narrative in the first chapter says that this man was created in the image of God. In the second narrative he is manifested as a subject of the covenant, that is, a subject constituted as a person, constituted in the dimension of "partner of the Absolute." He must consciously discern and choose between good and evil, between life and death. The words of the first order of God-Yahweh (Gn 2:16-17) speak directly of the submission and dependence of man the creature on his Creator. They indirectly reveal precisely this level of humanity as subject of the covenant and "partner of the Absolute." Man is "alone." That means that he, through his own humanity, through what he is, is constituted at the same time in a unique, exclusive and unrepeatable relationship with God himself. On its part, the anthropological definition contained in the Yahwist text approaches what is expressed in the theological definition of man, which we find in the first narrative of creation: "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (Gn 1:26).

Conscious of being "alone"

3. Man, thus formed, belongs to the visible world; he is a body among bodies. Taking up again and, in a way, reconstructing the meaning of original solitude, we apply it to man in his totality. His body, through which he participates in the visible created world, makes him at the same time conscious of being "alone." Otherwise, he would not have been able to arrive at that conviction which he reached (cf. Gn 2:20), if his body had not helped him to understand it, making the matter evident. Consciousness of solitude might have been shattered precisely because of his body itself. The man, 'adam, might have reached the conclusion, on the basis of the experience of his own body, that he was substantially similar to other living beings (animalia). On the contrary, as we read, he did not arrive at this conclusion; he reached the conviction that he was "alone." The Yahwist text never speaks directly of the body. Even when it says that "The Lord God formed man of dust from the ground," it speaks of man and not of his body. Nevertheless, the narrative taken as a whole offers us a sufficient basis to perceive this man, created in the visible world, precisely as a body among bodies.

The analysis of the Yahwist text also enables us to link man's original solitude with consciousness of the body. Through it, man is distinguished from all the animalia and is separated from them, and also through it he is a person. It can be affirmed with certainty that man, thus formed, has at the same time consciousness and awareness of the meaning of his own body, on the basis of the experience of original solitude.

Meaning of his corporality

4. All this can be considered as an implication of the second narrative of the creation of man, and the analysis of the text enables us to develop it amply.

At the beginning of the Yahwist text, even before it speaks of the creation of man from the "dust of the ground," we read that "there was no one to till the land or to make channels of water spring out of the earth to irrigate the whole land" (Gn 2:5-6). We rightly associate this passage with the one in the first narrative, in which God's command is expressed: "Fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion..." (Gn 1:28). The second narrative alludes specifically to the work that man carries out to till the earth. The first fundamental means to dominate the earth lies in man himself. Man can dominate the earth because he alone—and no other of the living beings—is capable of "tilling it" and transforming it according to his own needs. ("He made channels of water spring out of the earth to irrigate the whole land.") This first outline of a specifically human activity seems to belong to the definition of man, as it emerges from the analysis of the Yahwist text. Consequently, it can be affirmed that this outline is intrinsic to the meaning of the original solitude and belongs to that dimension of solitude through which man, from the beginning, is in the visible world as a body among bodies and discovers the meaning of his own corporality.

Source (http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2tb6.htm)

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-12-2007, 04:21 AM
YHWH. The personal name of the God of Israel is written in the Hebrew Bible with the four consonants yhwh and is referred to as the "Tetragrammaton". At least until the destructions of the First Temple in 586 b.c.e., this name was regularly pronounced with its proper vowels, as is clear from the *Lachish Letters, written shortly before that date. But at least by the third century b.c.e., the pronunciation of the name yhwh was avoided, and Adonai, "the Lord", was substituted for it, as evidenced by the use of the Greek word Kyrios, "Lord", for yhwh in the Septuagint, the translation of the Hebrew Scriptures that was begun by Greek-speaking Jews in that century. Where the combined form *Adonai yhwh occurs in the Bible, this was read as *Adonai *Elohim, "Lord God". In the early Middle Ages, when the consonantal text of the Bible was supplied with vowels points to faciliate its correct traditional reading, the vowel points for 'Adonai with one variation - a sheva with the first yod of YHWH instead of the hataf-patah under the aleph of 'Adonai7 were used for YHWH, thus producing the form Yehowah. When Christian scholars of Europe first began to study Hebrew, they did not understand what this really meant, and they introduced the hybrid name "Jehovah". In order to avoid pronouncing even the sacred name *Adonai for YHWH, the custom was later introduced of saying simply in Hebrew ha-Shem (or Aramaic Shemc, "the Name") even in such an expression as "Blessed be he that cometh in the name of YHWH" (Ps. 118:26).

The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 7, page 680, further states this fact:
The true pronunciation of the name yhwh was never lost. Several early Greek writers of the Christian Church testify that the name was pronounced "Yahweh." This is confirmed, at least for the vowel of the first syllable of the name, by the shorter form Yah, which is sometimes used in poetry (e.g., Ex. 15:2) and the -yahu or -yah that serves as the final syllable in very many Hebrew names.


TETRAGRAMMATON: The quadrilateral name of God, ().
The Tetragrammaton is the ancient Israelitish name for God. According to actual count, it occurs 5,410 times in the Bible, being divided among the books as follows: Genesis 153 times, Exodus 364, Leviticus 285, Numbers 387, Deuteronomy 230, (total in Torah 1,419); Joshua 170, Judges 158, Samuel 423, Kings 467, Isaiah 367, Jeremiah 555, Ezekiel 211, Minor Prophets 345 (total in Prophets 2,696); Psalms 645, Proverbs 87, Job 31, Ruth 16, Lamentations 32, Daniel 7, Ezra__Nehemiah 31, Chronicles 446 (total in Hagiographa 1,295).
In connections with () the Tetragrammaton is pointed with the vowels of "Elohim" (which beyond doubt was not pronounced in this combination); it occurs 310 times after (), and five times before it (Dalman, "Der Gottesname," etc., p.91), 227 of these occurrences being in Ezekiel alone. The designation "YHWH Zeba'ot," translated "Lord of hosts," occurs 260 times, and with the addition of "God" four times more. This designation is met with as follows: Isaiah 65 times, Jeremiah 77 times, Minor Prophets 103 (Zechariah 52; Malachi 24), Samuel 11, Kings 4; but it does not occur, on the other hand, in the Pentateuch, in Joshua, in Judges, or in the Hagiographa. Adding these 264 occurrences and the 315 just noted to the 5,410 instances of the simple Tetragrammaton, the word "YHWH" is found to occur 5,989 times in the Bible. There is no instance of it, however, in Canticles, Ecclesiastes, or Esther; and in Daniel it occurs 7 times (in ch. ix.)__a fact which in itself shows the late date of these books, whose authors lived at a period when the use of the Tetragrammaton was already avoided, its utterance having become restricted both in the reading of the Bible and still more in colloquial speech. For it was substituted adonai; and the fact that this name is found 315 times in combination with "YHWH" and 134 times alone shows that the custom of reading the Tetragrammaton as if written "ADONAI" began at a time when the text of the Biblical books was not yet scrupulously protected from minor additions. This assumption explains most of the occurrences of "ADONAI" before "YHWH"; i.e., the former word indicated the pronunciation of the latter. At the time of the Chronicler this pronunciation was so generally accepted that he never wrote the name "Adonai." About 300 b.c., therefore, the word "YHWH'' was not pronounced in its original form. For several reasons Jacob ("Im Namen Gottes," p. 167) assigns the "disuse of the word "YHWH" and the substitution of "ADONAI" to the later decades of the Babylonian exile."

snoopsnuffleopagus
25-12-2007, 04:45 AM
CORDIAL FELICITATIONS KASALT:


THANK YOU!, No doubt John Paul II was a learned man, yet at the end he embraced a darwinistic form of evolution, and in this Essay, never relates the Tree of Life to the Codex of Law which becomes apparent in subsequent passages.

Why do you think the Papacy don't embrace the Torah?


By what authority do they change the Book of Yahweh?


Kasalt, thank you again, but no more Papal Views.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus