View Full Version : pleaidians and 'benevolent' beings
soltru
10-08-2007, 08:15 PM
i'd like to talk to people hea bout this subject, seems to have been relegated to the side lines,
even in a forums like hea it seems that negativity is consuming people,
i just red 'bringers of the dawn'
i was fuckin blown away, happened after the 'matariki' in nz
all positive, uplifting,
the details don't matter to me,
please i would love to see what the sceptics have to say ;)
logic bomb
10-08-2007, 10:18 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6611
lb
lyricusmagna
30-09-2010, 10:03 PM
I wouldn't put the Pleiadians in the 'benevolent' pile myself. Not all of them anyway.
zsymon
30-09-2010, 10:04 PM
In my experiences they are everything but benevolent.. far as I know they
came to Earth 89.000 years, and they are the main cause our civilization
is as rotten and based on greed and hatred as it is now. They started to
incarnate as humans in massive amounts and they took over completely.
They can't incarnate anymore now, but there's still a lot of them around
as humans.
asleepawake
30-09-2010, 10:16 PM
Saying all pleaidians are benevolent is equal to sayin all reptillians are malevolent.
lyricusmagna
30-09-2010, 10:20 PM
Saying all pleaidians are benevolent is equal to sayin all reptillians are malevolent.
+1
Its differentiating who of them has your best interests in mind. The problem is, all Pleiadians look and speak the same way. So one can't know for sure.
any explanation of what is a pleaidian?
lyricusmagna
30-09-2010, 10:37 PM
any explanation of what is a pleadian?
In short: A humanoid extraterrestrial.
In short: A humanoid extraterrestrial.
like you and me? but from a different planet? how do you distinguished them from us?
ambler1980
02-10-2010, 06:31 AM
there are no absolutes
omnisense
03-10-2010, 06:23 AM
In my experiences they are everything but benevolent.. far as I know they
came to Earth 89.000 years, and they are the main cause our civilization
is as rotten and based on greed and hatred as it is now. They started to
incarnate as humans in massive amounts and they took over completely.
They can't incarnate anymore now, but there's still a lot of them around
as humans.
What is stopping them in your theory?
zsymon
03-10-2010, 06:26 PM
These beings are what I call non light (service to self), and where there is
too much Light energy, they cannot be. In 2008 the Light vibration of the
Earth has become so incredibly high, that non light souls can not incarnate
on Earth, or anywhere in this solar system, ever again.
This massive increase of Light vibration was meant to happen in the year
2012, why there is so much fear around that date, but it was pushed up
by four years, through massive efforts of the Light. This completely throws
their plans into disarray, and prevents them from completing any of their
intended plans.
Most factions do not know this yet, as they cannot gauge the amount of
Light that is flooding into the solar system, but some factions do. They've
been trying to lower the Light vibration here ever since, but now two years
later (2010), the Light vibration is already hundreds of billions of times
higher than it was in 2008. This basically means the non light have failed,
their grip on this solar system is broken and they will never be able to come
incarnate here again.
In time the Light will continue flooding into this space, and in the year 2012
there will be an absolutely gargantuan shift of Light into the solar system.
This will be the kick start to the Age of Light, in which the spiritual changes
will start manifesting physically. Meaning that our civilization will become
more and more benevolent, equal, friendly, loving, compassionate, graceful,
understanding and forgiving.
This changes will occur during the next decades, and within our lifetime we
will experience a complete turnaround of our civilization. There won't be a
massive collapse though, right now there are still too may non light souls
incarnated physically. The changes can only happen gradually, as more and
more Light souls come to Earth.
I'm guessing that within fourty years, about 50% of all life on Earth will be
Light (service to others), and within eighty years almost 100% of all life on
Earth will be Light. That is also when the remaining non light will be pushed
out of this solar system by the incredible amount of spiritual Light here.
The astral world of this solar system will dissolve, and only the Light world,
(our afterlife), will be left, this solar system will be a space of only Light.
These are not wild predictions and prophecies, they are the logical and
unstoppable consequences of the non light's inability to incarnate here any
longer, and the enormous amounts of incoming Light.
Imagine all the water on this planet being the Light, storming into a basin
that has one single pea of darkness. The pea will dissolve and its energy
will be thrown out of this solar system for all times. There is no way that
the pea can stay there, as it has no way to withstand the gentle but
overwhelming force of the oceans of water (Light).
For 9 billion years the darkness was the ocean and the Light was the pea,
but the pea has grown into the oceans and the oceans have shrunk into
the pea. It took the Light 9 billion years to restore the flow of Light here,
but now is the final time.
This is indeed the end of the world, the end of the world for the darkness,
while it is the beginning of a new world for the Light. This end will not
come with violence, cruelty, war and destruction, but it will come gently
and kind, understanding, loving, forgiving and compassionate. The Light
has great love and compassion for the darkness, and it will do everything
to help the darkness through this transition with as little discomfort for
them as possible.
romas
03-10-2010, 08:09 PM
Any empyrical data? :p
zsymon
03-10-2010, 09:27 PM
Any empyrical data? :p
Well, while I was out of my body I observed a non light being trying to
incarnate into a newborn, and failing. There was nothing the being could
do to connect itself with the baby's heart/mind. Only Light souls can
incarnate now.. service to other souls in other words.
manxboz
04-10-2010, 01:37 AM
I don't trust these Pleaidians at all, I truely don't.
siriusc
04-10-2010, 01:51 AM
+1
massai
04-10-2010, 08:44 AM
+1
bump...
+1 for the Avatar.:)
These beings are what I call non light (service to self), and where there is
too much Light energy, they cannot be. In 2008 the Light vibration of the
Earth has become so incredibly high, that non light souls can not incarnate
on Earth, or anywhere in this solar system, ever again.
This massive increase of Light vibration was meant to happen in the year
2012, why there is so much fear around that date, but it was pushed up
by four years, through massive efforts of the Light. This completely throws
their plans into disarray, and prevents them from completing any of their
intended plans.
Most factions do not know this yet, as they cannot gauge the amount of
Light that is flooding into the solar system, but some factions do. They've
been trying to lower the Light vibration here ever since, but now two years
later (2010), the Light vibration is already hundreds of billions of times
higher than it was in 2008. This basically means the non light have failed,
their grip on this solar system is broken and they will never be able to come
incarnate here again.
In time the Light will continue flooding into this space, and in the year 2012
there will be an absolutely gargantuan shift of Light into the solar system.
This will be the kick start to the Age of Light, in which the spiritual changes
will start manifesting physically. Meaning that our civilization will become
more and more benevolent, equal, friendly, loving, compassionate, graceful,
understanding and forgiving.
This changes will occur during the next decades, and within our lifetime we
will experience a complete turnaround of our civilization. There won't be a
massive collapse though, right now there are still too may non light souls
incarnated physically. The changes can only happen gradually, as more and
more Light souls come to Earth.
I'm guessing that within fourty years, about 50% of all life on Earth will be
Light (service to others), and within eighty years almost 100% of all life on
Earth will be Light. That is also when the remaining non light will be pushed
out of this solar system by the incredible amount of spiritual Light here.
The astral world of this solar system will dissolve, and only the Light world,
(our afterlife), will be left, this solar system will be a space of only Light.
These are not wild predictions and prophecies, they are the logical and
unstoppable consequences of the non light's inability to incarnate here any
longer, and the enormous amounts of incoming Light.
Imagine all the water on this planet being the Light, storming into a basin
that has one single pea of darkness. The pea will dissolve and its energy
will be thrown out of this solar system for all times. There is no way that
the pea can stay there, as it has no way to withstand the gentle but
overwhelming force of the oceans of water (Light).
For 9 billion years the darkness was the ocean and the Light was the pea,
but the pea has grown into the oceans and the oceans have shrunk into
the pea. It took the Light 9 billion years to restore the flow of Light here,
but now is the final time.
This is indeed the end of the world, the end of the world for the darkness,
while it is the beginning of a new world for the Light. This end will not
come with violence, cruelty, war and destruction, but it will come gently
and kind, understanding, loving, forgiving and compassionate. The Light
has great love and compassion for the darkness, and it will do everything
to help the darkness through this transition with as little discomfort for
them as possible.
So... they are bad guys:)
blackstar76
04-10-2010, 12:14 PM
Gee if Pleadians and Reptiles are bad then who are the good guys? I don't think the Pleadians are bad if they exist. They all can't be bad. There is something positive keeping us from Nuking the planet and each other right now.
Gee if Pleadians and Reptiles are bad then who are the good guys? I don't think the Pleadians are bad if they exist. They all can't be bad. There is something positive keeping us from Nuking the planet and each other right now.
Nosy guys :D
king triad
04-10-2010, 12:28 PM
There are pleadians in our army, all good men..I don't know how the rumor they are evil started?...
There are pleadians in our army, all good men..I don't know how the rumor they are evil started?...
Someone asked that, someone stated that...:confused:
romas
04-10-2010, 01:08 PM
There are pleadians in our army, all good men..I don't know how the rumor they are evil started?...
Are there any pleadians in Iranian army? ;)
king triad
04-10-2010, 01:18 PM
Are there any pleadians in Iranian army? ;)
Lol ..that's doubtful..I read back and the resident authority's Lyricus and zygon labeled pleaidians all evil so it must be true:rolleyes:
Lol ..that's doubtful..I read back and the resident authority's Lyricus and zygon labeled pleaidians all evil so it must be true:rolleyes:
Is there any pleaidian out there willing to post out there?:D
king triad
04-10-2010, 02:09 PM
Is there any pleaidian out there willing to post out there?:D
On ATS there are a few claiming to be pleiadian...
On ATS there are a few claiming to be pleiadian...
what's ATS??
king triad
04-10-2010, 02:17 PM
what's ATS??
Above top secret forum....this is a better forum though...
above top secret forum....this is a better forum though...
thanks:)
zsymon
04-10-2010, 06:18 PM
Gee if Pleadians and Reptiles are bad then who are the good guys? I don't think the Pleadians are bad if they exist. They all can't be bad. There is something positive keeping us from Nuking the planet and each other right now.
With benevolent I mean: completely service to others.. beings that would
never harm another.. not under any circumstances. Beings that would
never lift a hand or weapon to hurt another being.. beings I call Light.
None of what I say is a fact obviously, they are just my own observations,
based on subjective experiences and subjectively perceived evidence.
Benevolent beings from other star systems don't come to Earth, and they
never have. Maybe someday in the future, when the Earth has become a
paradise devoid of all negativity, which is its purpose, they might come
here to share their technology and knowledge of the Universe.
This means that all extraterrestrials and interdimensionals that come here,
have the same intentions. They all come to steal and/or dominate, they
all come to manipulate us and prevent us from awakening. Because when
we awaken, they will have no way to fulfill any of their goals and plans.
Some of them are malicious, some of them are neutral, at times maybe even
friendly, but all of them have the same goals.. to steal, dominate and control.
Only the methods they use vary between eachother.
This doesn't mean we are alone.. non physical Light beings guide and support
and protect us every moment, and have been ever since the solar system
existed. But these Light beings are us, they are us when we are not physically
incarnated. When you die and enter the Light world, our afterlife, you become
one of the trillions of Light souls who support their incarnated friends on Earth.
We are never alone when we are on Earth, the Light is constantly guiding us,
sending us dreams, giving us messages and gentle lessons to evolve and to
grow, to awaken and to remember who we really are, to remember our past
lives. Your soul family is always with you, even if you can't see or hear them
yet.
But none of the extraterrestrials that come here are Light, none of them are
out there to help us, not in any way. Which is why accepting channelings as
gospel is not a good idea.
romas
04-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Man the beings who never harm anyone, never really change anything the way we humans want to see changed. If there are two guys, an idiot and a normal dude and the idiot wants to kill the normal dude, those beings would theoretically just observe the slaughter because they love both sides equally, they are a-polar. So they aren't doing anything about NWO either or however you want to abstractify the famous "phenomena"
Humans really want an apocalypse, the great revelation, because most people think they know everything better than others, which is logical/genetic legacy from the survival game we've been playing here(kill or be killed). Humans want the great war, ie war in heavens, there is a reason this theme is persistent through different religious texts.
I don't really know what this "awakening" is all about really, everyone is hoping subjectively about different things I guess. But the current system would crash if it's what I'm thinking it would be, no one would go to their stupid cubicle jobs, probably no one would slaughter animals for food either, so most of the food is now gone, most of administration jobs are gone(maybe this is good). So if we awaken to how shitty this existence right now is without finding a solution to make it better, lots of people might even just end their life.
zsymon
04-10-2010, 07:30 PM
You are right, many people want global war and destruction, they want the
world to explode into an apocalypse, they want billions of people to suffer
and die in most horrible ways.
They want to sit on a rock and watch everything blow up, the sky purple
and red, the ground split, lava bursting up from deep rifts in the ground and
soldiers and marauding gangs moving through the cities, killing and enslaving
any women and child they can find.
They want to sit in a bunker and take pot shots with their rifles at anyone
who dares to come close. They want to be survivalists and warriors that
will live through it all and come out on top victorious with a few select people,
who agree with them about everything.
Many people on this forum want this to happen, and I find this very sad.
Boy will they be disappointed when 2012 has passed and nothing happened..
and they will be disappointed, because nothing will happen, not physically.
manxboz
04-10-2010, 07:31 PM
Above top secret forum....this is a better forum though...
AS much as we don't always see eye to eye, We agree on what is important :D The DIF even though it isn't as good as it use to be, is still one of the best forums for this genre out there.
Any scientific explanation or evidence that pleaidians exist, are here or whatever?
It's just because for someone like me who never heard that name before it's kinda hard to imagine based only on what another person is saying...
sh3lly
04-10-2010, 09:08 PM
You are right, many people want global war and destruction, they want the
world to explode into an apocalypse, they want billions of people to suffer
and die in most horrible ways.
They want to sit on a rock and watch everything blow up, the sky purple
and red, the ground split, lava bursting up from deep rifts in the ground and
soldiers and marauding gangs moving through the cities, killing and enslaving
any women and child they can find.
They want to sit in a bunker and take pot shots with their rifles at anyone
who dares to come close. They want to be survivalists and warriors that
will live through it all and come out on top victorious with a few select people,
who agree with them about everything.
Many people on this forum want this to happen, and I find this very sad.
Boy will they be disappointed when 2012 has passed and nothing happened..
and they will be disappointed, because nothing will happen, not physically.
I sure don't want that to happen. I don't think anything is going to happen in 2012 either.
manxboz
04-10-2010, 09:16 PM
You are right, many people want global war and destruction, they want the
world to explode into an apocalypse, they want billions of people to suffer
and die in most horrible ways.
They want to sit on a rock and watch everything blow up, the sky purple
and red, the ground split, lava bursting up from deep rifts in the ground and
soldiers and marauding gangs moving through the cities, killing and enslaving
any women and child they can find.
They want to sit in a bunker and take pot shots with their rifles at anyone
who dares to come close. They want to be survivalists and warriors that
will live through it all and come out on top victorious with a few select people,
who agree with them about everything.
Many people on this forum want this to happen, and I find this very sad.
Boy will they be disappointed when 2012 has passed and nothing happened..
and they will be disappointed, because nothing will happen, not physically.
I agree with the 2012 part, this is what I think
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs047.snc4/34724_158869664142977_100000598342747_414492_35487 15_n.jpg
sh3lly
04-10-2010, 09:19 PM
lol
loveisthelaw
04-10-2010, 09:21 PM
please i would love to see what the sceptics have to say ;)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__xRYO66RUu4/TGakUGnGUOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/WKlhctWajZA/s1600/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_origins.jpg
Look benevolent, unless you work for Sony, of course.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__xRYO66RUu4/TGakUGnGUOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/WKlhctWajZA/s1600/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_origins.jpg
Look benevolent, unless you work for Sony, of course.
so... pleaidians are turtles :D now i can put a face to pleadianas! thanks guys...:rolleyes:
kahn2010
04-10-2010, 11:35 PM
this forum is getting better. Less shills about atm (fortunatly).
Most people on here want things to get better. They dont want the world to end.
Sometimes i want the world to end as i sometimes think: 'They have already won, why fight?' but i, like many other people on this forum, keep going.
Its all we can do until things get better.
The only thing that bothers me is:
What will WE become once we reach this higher plane/awakening?
will we just start doing what the reppies and plaidians are doing now? Thinking our race is superior? or will we remember what these races did to ours and protect other unenlightened races?
or will we just sit on Earth and advance our technology and colonise other worlds?
Any scientific explanation or evidence that pleaidians exist, are here or whatever?
Reading through all the contactee threads it looks a bad idea to ask for any kind of evidence. Those that kept at it were accused of 'trolling'. Wanting evidence in these threads is having unrealistic expectations.
ken1960
05-10-2010, 01:47 AM
Reading through all the contactee threads it looks a bad idea to ask for any kind of evidence. Those that kept at it were accused of 'trolling'. Wanting evidence in these threads is having unrealistic expectations.
You said it Sir.
It's like beating your head against a wall: painfull, pointless and good when you stop.
You cannot reason with idiots.
hoovermat
05-10-2010, 02:48 AM
Soltru wrote:
i just red 'bringers of the dawn'
i was fuckin blown away, happened after the 'matariki' in nz
all positive, uplifting,
the details don't matter to me,
please i would love to see what the sceptics have to say
A really mindblowing book which was yes, uplifting, if I recall. Believe I read it in the 90:s. By Barbara Manchiniak?
If you wan´t more pleiadian stuff read "Visions from the pleiades" by someone called "something Hand Clow" . But that book can really change your view of reality forever.
omnisense
05-10-2010, 02:54 AM
i think it's not as simple as "the ones that come here are all bad", or what Greer says 'There are only benevolent ETs'.
I think there is both. A balance. Not an extreme imbalance.
lyricusmagna
05-10-2010, 02:12 PM
There are pleadians in our army, all good men..I don't know how the rumor they are evil started?...
Lol ..that's doubtful..I read back and the resident authority's Lyricus and zygon labeled pleaidians all evil so it must be true:rolleyes:
Read about those coming from Atlas and Alcyone.
Gee if Pleadians and Reptiles are bad then who are the good guys? I don't think the Pleadians are bad if they exist. They all can't be bad. There is something positive keeping us from Nuking the planet and each other right now.
Only some of them are manipulative and have really fucked with mankind. Not all though. Those from Merope are really doing a positive thing around here.
A really mindblowing book which was yes, uplifting, if I recall. Believe I read it in the 90:s. By Barbara Manchiniak?
If you wan´t more pleiadian stuff read "Visions from the pleiades" by someone called "something Hand Clow" . But that book can really change your view of reality forever.
Its Barbara Hand Clow. And some of the information in there is faulty.
The only thing that bothers me is:
What will WE become once we reach this higher plane/awakening?
will we just start doing what the reppies and plaidians are doing now? Thinking our race is superior? or will we remember what these races did to ours and protect other unenlightened races?
or will we just sit on Earth and advance our technology and colonise other worlds?
Read the book "the other side of power". We are currently on the other side of power. Victims.
When we grow to our potential, I don't think we will become the monsters we used to fight. At least not the majority of us. Because of what we went through.
PS: Yes, we will colonize other worlds. Very soon.
lizzyking
05-10-2010, 02:25 PM
The Light
has great love and compassion for the darkness, and it will do everything
to help the darkness through this transition with as little discomfort for
them as possible.
As little discomfort as possible? So they will be using lubrication?
omnisense
05-10-2010, 08:31 PM
Reading through all the contactee threads it looks a bad idea to ask for any kind of evidence. Those that kept at it were accused of 'trolling'. Wanting evidence in these threads is having unrealistic expectations.
One thing is true. Contactees have given little evidence. But theres a line between trolling and constantly spamming your doubt and negative thoughts on contactees just telling their story or answering questions, and just doubting it or needing evidence and never adding anything beneficial to the conversation. People dont have to be so against each other just because one person says something happened to them that is beyond the norm. Mido posts nothing but negative posts against contactees here from what i've seen. You contribute nothing but doubt and negative thoughts. Thats why some were called trolls. I agree sometimes the word is used too freely though.. Not by me.
lizzyking
06-10-2010, 08:32 AM
You said it Sir.
It's like beating your head against a wall: painfull, pointless and good when you stop.
You cannot reason with idiots.
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mike_ascends
06-10-2010, 06:27 PM
pleadians are NOT bad, dont get it twisted, they're the guardians of the earth, literally angels, or what was depicted as angels. Ill admit i'm sure there're bad ET humanoids that are service to self or have their own agenda, but the ones that look like us are loving
zsymon
06-10-2010, 06:41 PM
pleadians are NOT bad, dont get it twisted, they're the guardians of the earth,
literally angels, or what was depicted as angels. Ill admit i'm sure there're bad
ET humanoids that are service to self or have their own agenda, but the ones
that look like us are loving
How do you know?
kahn2010
06-10-2010, 09:19 PM
How do you know?
Is the human race gonna start 'awakening'? Cos atm it seems the PTB are in total control and are running amok, furthering their goals without hinderence.
We need to start a revolution to slow them down.
manxboz
06-10-2010, 09:22 PM
Ok may I ask those who believe in the Pleaidians who was the First to contact them? Who was their main point of contact at first?
zsymon
06-10-2010, 11:19 PM
Is the human race gonna start 'awakening'? Cos atm it seems the PTB are in total control and are running amok, furthering their goals without hinderence.
We need to start a revolution to slow them down.
I was just wondering why Mike thought all Pleiadeans were benevolent.
I have seen these beings in their own dimension, their afterlife, and I
base my beliefs about them on that. Not saying that I know the truth
about them, just wondering if he had experience with these beings,
because he seems so sure they are good and benevolent.
zsymon
06-10-2010, 11:22 PM
Ok may I ask those who believe in the Pleaidians who was the First to contact them? Who was their main point of contact at first?
They have been incarnating on Earth since 89.000 years from what I know,
they don't just contact spiritual people telepathically, they incarnate as
well. So the first contact humans had with them was long ago, way before
our civilization.
All of these aliens have been coming to Earth for thousands of years, some
even for millions of years. None of them are "new" to Earth.. though they
never had the right to enter this solar system, none of them. They were
never given permission.
manxboz
06-10-2010, 11:24 PM
They have been incarnating on Earth since 89.000 years from what I know,
they don't just contact spiritual people telepathically, they incarnate as
well. So the first contact humans had with them was long ago, way before
our civilization.
All of these aliens have been coming to Earth for thousands of years, some
even for millions of years. None of them are "new" to Earth.. though they
never had the right to enter this solar system, none of them.
Ok, I know this, but let me reword it.
Who do you think (Those that believe in the Pleaidian theory, because remember the word Pleaidian is only new) was first person who (truthfully) contact and told the world about them?
king triad
06-10-2010, 11:26 PM
Ok, I know this, but let me reword it.
Who do you think (Those that believe in the Pleaidian theory, because remember the word Pleaidian is only new) was first person who (truthfully) contact and told the world about them?
Who Billy Meir?...
manxboz
06-10-2010, 11:30 PM
Who Billy Meir?...
If you believe it was Billy Meier then ok (Yes he gave the world the word, but do you think he was in contact with them).
zsymon
06-10-2010, 11:34 PM
Ok, I know this, but let me reword it.
Who do you think (Those that believe in the Pleaidian theory, because remember the word Pleaidian is only new) was first person who (truthfully) contact and told the world about them?
I think the Pleiadeans have contacted humans using all kinds of names
for themselves, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades and Hera are some of those
names.. they were reincarnations of the Pleiadean leaders in ancient
Greek. I think they've only recently started calling themselves to be
Pleiadeans, because mankind is looking out for aliens now, not gods
like in the old times.
In short, in old times they were called gods, many different names for
the same beings, and in modern times they are called aliens (Pleiadeans).
I don't know who the first person was who was contacted by them
when they started calling themselves by the name of their star system
though.
Wikipedia says that Billy Meier was the first who spoke of contact
with the Nordic aliens (Pleiadeans).
manxboz
06-10-2010, 11:38 PM
I think the Pleiadeans have contacted humans using all kinds of names
for themselves, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades and Hera are some of those
names.. they were reincarnations of the Pleiadean leaders in ancient
Greek. I think they've only recently started calling themselves to be
Pleiadeans, because mankind is looking out for aliens now, not gods
like in the old times.
In short, in old times they were called gods, many different names for
the same beings, and in modern times they are called aliens (Pleiadeans).
I don't know who the first person was who was contacted by them
when they started calling themselves by the name of their star system
though.
Wikipedia says that Billy Meier was the first who spoke of contact
with the Nordic aliens (Pleiadeans).
Do you personally Believe Billy Meier was at anytime in contact with the Pleiadians?
Wiki also says Adamski met the Nordics (So Wiki is contridicting themselves)
zsymon
06-10-2010, 11:57 PM
I believe it's very well possible Billy Meier met the Pleiadeans, he's not the
only one. But I can't tell for sure, I never met Billy Meier and I didn't read
much of what he said.
kobe christ
06-10-2010, 11:57 PM
http://www.pleiadians.net/
LMFAO is this ^^ a hoax?
manxboz
07-10-2010, 12:00 AM
I believe it's very well possible Billy Meier met the Pleiadeans, he's not the
only one. But I can't tell for sure, I never met Billy Meier and I didn't read
much of what he said.
Ok, thank you for your answer. I'll wait for a few more.
manxboz
07-10-2010, 12:02 AM
http://www.pleiadians.net/
LMFAO is this ^^ a hoax?
Most likely not, but once again this site shows the inability of those who even believe in the Pleiadians to research their own history. Just like Christians know little about their own past (Yes I am well aware I am generalising, but you get my meaning)
kobe christ
07-10-2010, 12:50 AM
Most likely not, but once again this site shows the inability of those who even believe in the Pleiadians to research their own history. Just like Christians know little about their own past (Yes I am well aware I am generalising, but you get my meaning)
http://pleiadians.com/
^^ is this ^^ a hoax
manxboz
07-10-2010, 12:52 AM
http://pleiadians.com/
^^ is this ^^ a hoax
Once again I'll say That these Pleaidian believers have not looked at their own history and thus yes I believe that she is a hoax.
kobe christ
07-10-2010, 12:59 AM
Once again I'll say That these Pleaidian believers have not looked at their own history and thus yes I believe that she is a hoax.
What is their history?
manxboz
07-10-2010, 01:07 AM
What is their history?
Are you a believer? Do you believe in the Galactic Federation of Light? How much do you know about the subject of the Pleaidians/Nordics/Space Brothers?
kobe christ
07-10-2010, 01:15 AM
Are you a believer? Do you believe in the Galactic Federation of Light? How much do you know about the subject of the Pleaidians/Nordics/Space Brothers?
I believe in everything Illuminati, MK, aliens, anything Illuminati related.
Aliens is a subject I am still learning via this section. I would like to know as much as possible. I know nothing of what u mentioned.
lizzyking
07-10-2010, 01:38 AM
I believe in everything. Everything is true! Don't hurt me, I believe!
I will wake up, I pwomise I will!
I am awake now, I bought your book and your magic crystal!
manxboz
07-10-2010, 01:48 AM
I believe in everything Illuminati, MK, aliens, anything Illuminati related.
Aliens is a subject I am still learning via this section. I would like to know as much as possible. I know nothing of what u mentioned.
Well to learn is good, so long as you always learn and look at everything, even the things you don't agree with. To truely learn means to be able to destroy and rebuild constently.
Well ok, lets say that Billy Meier, considered the "father of the Pleaidians", was talking the truth about his contacts. This would mean that No one since his last contact in 1995 has spoken to them.
I will back this up by two passages taken from two of his sessions:-
This is from his 251st Contact on February 3, 1995
Ptaah: Now that we have withdrawn from Earth, I want to reiterate the issue, once again, that neither we Plejarans nor any of the allies within our federation are maintaining any contacts whatsoever with terrestrial human beings; neither in a physical nor a telepathic form.
And this is from his 232nd Contact on November 17, 1989
Ptaah: "... It still must be clarified that no other human beings or spirit forms or other powers of our allies in the Federation maintain contacts with humans on earth, accidentally, unconsciously or consciously; therefore neither in physical nor telepathic nor in any other form. Claims to the contrary by some human beings of earth, no matter from which region throughout the world, are nothing but conscious or unconscious lies, deceit and fraudulent actions; or they are simply activities to make a profit through dishonesty by liars, deceivers, delusional people, profit seekers, busy-bodies or those who consciously falsify the truth through their own fanaticism and hatred…"
So surely that means that all these GFL people and those maintaining 'contact' with Pleiadians are lying, or that Meier was lying which means that the Pleiadians don't exist thus making the Channellers today lying also.
We also have those that spoke to Pleaidians before Meier but called them by other names like Adamski's Venusian Nordic alien Space Brothers. But if Meier is right then Adamski was wrong. Not only this, but does anyone see the connection between these Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes super strong, tall, handsome Aliens and those spoken of by Hitler and his Esoteric Circles?
All you need to do is look at the Virl society and it's so called channelings. Then there is the Thule society and it's experiments.
I mean take a look at some of Adamski pictures :-
http://www.eyepod.org/images/ufo_george_adamski_1_.gif
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_myX5Q4qMDhY/S9rxEhmC5VI/AAAAAAAAEiE/PPLsr71u2vY/s1600/adamski1.jpg
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/adamski_1.jpg
Now let's look at some Nazi pictures:-
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs381.snc3/23363_129302147099729_100000598342747_239432_12791 5_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs381.snc3/23363_129302240433053_100000598342747_239443_21269 40_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs157.snc4/37176_159656834064260_100000598342747_418535_65898 73_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs724.snc4/64438_159656790730931_100000598342747_418533_40737 3_n.jpg
Very Similar, even supposed plans of the Haunebu 2 look so like Adamski's UFOs.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs421.ash1/23363_129302133766397_100000598342747_239429_37259 72_n.jpg
Also who were these 'Nazi's' contacting? Oh wait, Blonde Hair, Blue eyed, handsome, tall, beautiful, intelligent aliens.
Now some will disagree, that is a given, I'm not saying all "my" pictures are 100% true (But they also have yet to fail any photo test they have been put through). I'm only saying what I have come accross in my time researching and I will happily look at any other evidence or articles that show a different view of what I have presented.
I hope this helps Kobe, it is good to meet another person who researchs.
kobe christ
07-10-2010, 02:56 AM
In another thread you called Billy Meier 'bogus'.... so why feed dat to me if it's bogus
manxboz
07-10-2010, 03:23 AM
In another thread you called Billy Meier 'bogus'.... so why feed dat to me if it's bogus
Please read it again and you'll see what I am getting at. ;)
mike_ascends
07-10-2010, 06:22 AM
When you try dmt, you will know foreal that the aliens are real...its deep, it wakes you up to that reality
manxboz
07-10-2010, 06:32 AM
When you try dmt, you will know foreal that the aliens are real...its deep, it wakes you up to that reality
Yeah, if you need mind altering drugs to 'experience' something then it isn't worth it.
indolering
15-10-2010, 03:54 AM
Yeah, if you need mind altering drugs to 'experience' something then it isn't worth it.
I don't believe i'm alone in checking you here--you do realize men and women have used sacred plants and chemicals for many millennia to go beyond symbolic consciousness, to get high, to see God.... As i recall, the inspiration for this forum has benefitted from his forays into higher consciousness. Many of us have. I personally haven't met the aliens on acid or anything else but many have...Terrence McKenna spoke highly of the ability of DMT to put one in touch with other-worldly beings. Have you never had a good trip under your belt...?
kingmob
15-10-2010, 04:48 AM
The interesting thing about DMT is that it doesn't really alter your mind at all. Almost everyone who experienced it, relates the fact that your mind follows you completely, and it simply feels like a far away travel more than anything else....
And talking about how good or bad the pleaidians are is just silly. None of you ever met them, and all of this is pure speculation and fantasy.
sh3lly
15-10-2010, 05:57 AM
And talking about how good or bad the pleaidians are is just silly. None of you ever met them, and all of this is pure speculation and fantasy.
How do you know?
kingmob
15-10-2010, 06:12 AM
How do you know?
How do I know that you never met Pleadians? LOL
sh3lly
15-10-2010, 06:19 AM
How do I know that you never met Pleadians? LOL
It has nothing to do with me.
You said
None of you ever met them, and all of this is pure speculation and fantasy.
So how do you know?
kingmob
15-10-2010, 06:27 AM
It has nothing to do with me.
You said
So how do you know?
Its not Rocket Science. How many people do you think actually met Pleadians?
I met Pleadians, my uncle is a Pleadian, and my mother in law is from Sirius B. Do you believe me?
Its not Rocket Science. How many people do you think actually met Pleadians?
I met Pleadians, my uncle is a Pleadian, and my mother in law is from Sirius B. Do you believe me?
Ridicule, ridicule, ridicule.... One can always hide the thruth, showing it in plain sight!
If you deliver that info in a mocking tone, it will be discarded... Like media does:D
manxboz
15-10-2010, 12:46 PM
I don't believe i'm alone in checking you here--you do realize men and women have used sacred plants and chemicals for many millennia to go beyond symbolic consciousness, to get high, to see God.... As i recall, the inspiration for this forum has benefitted from his forays into higher consciousness. Many of us have. I personally haven't met the aliens on acid or anything else but many have...Terrence McKenna spoke highly of the ability of DMT to put one in touch with other-worldly beings. Have you never had a good trip under your belt...?
Yes I agree to a certain extent, but if by using DMT we can 'see real-life aliens' that means every who uses said drugs would. Drugs are used to enter ones own mind, to help drag out the closed pockets from within. I do not doubt the usefulness it has had in many areas like meditation etc but to say that aliens are 100% real due to using drugs is kinda a little 'close-minded' in its own right, do you not agree?
I also have had some good trips under my belt, as you put it.
indolering
15-10-2010, 03:03 PM
Yes I agree to a certain extent, but if by using DMT we can 'see real-life aliens' that means every who uses said drugs would. Drugs are used to enter ones own mind, to help drag out the closed pockets from within. I do not doubt the usefulness it has had in many areas like meditation etc but to say that aliens are 100% real due to using drugs is kinda a little 'close-minded' in its own right, do you not agree?
I also have had some good trips under my belt, as you put it.
Yes, i agree with you. In fact, seeing aliens while stoned on strong psychedelics is no guarantee that your seeing aliens at all, hallucinations being common during trips.... On the other hand, when many trippers report very similar experiences, it becomes worthy of investigation. I suspect that the beings encountered during DMT sessions are of a different variety than the usual suspects (greys, reptilians, nordics, etc). And then there's the question of benevolent or malevolent. I tend to agree with the RA Material that only the bad aliens come down and interact with us, while the positive ones monitor us but don't interfere beyond sending us love.
kingmob
15-10-2010, 08:57 PM
Ridicule, ridicule, ridicule.... One can always hide the thruth, showing it in plain sight!
If you deliver that info in a mocking tone, it will be discarded... Like media does:D
I'm afraid there is very little truth to discuss here, more like fantasy for the fantasy deprived...Being open minded is one thing, but discussing this as some sort of a fact is just beyond my comprehension. May be a little ridicule is in order?
sh3lly
15-10-2010, 10:28 PM
Its not Rocket Science. How many people do you think actually met Pleadians?
I met Pleadians, my uncle is a Pleadian, and my mother in law is from Sirius B. Do you believe me?
You said no one here has ever met one. So, how do you know that. Sure, a lot of people are lying. That doesn't mean no one here has met one.
kingmob
15-10-2010, 11:16 PM
You said no one here has ever met one. So, how do you know that. Sure, a lot of people are lying. That doesn't mean no one here has met one.
The point I wasn't trying to make is that conversations like this have little merit since its mostly hearsay and wild speculation due to the fact that most of us have no idea what a Pleades is. Speculating whether they are benevolent or malevolent just because some douche likes the attention and makes up wild claims is not something we should waste our time with.
romas
16-10-2010, 07:33 AM
The point I wasn't trying to make is that conversations like this have little merit since its mostly hearsay and wild speculation due to the fact that most of us have no idea what a Pleades is. Speculating whether they are benevolent or malevolent just because some douche likes the attention and makes up wild claims is not something we should waste our time with.
LoL! :D
zsymon
16-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah, if you need mind altering drugs to 'experience' something then it isn't worth it.
Mind altering drugs often allow you to see the aliens and interdimensional
beings that are attached to you. That is why many people see these beings
when they are on such drugs. Some people have literally thousands of such
entities attached to them.. personally I only had a few hundred, but I met
someone who had over three thousand interdimensional beings attached to
him, and almost two thousand extraterrestrial souls attached to him. These
beings attach to you to block you from spiritually awakening, they feed us
subliminal thoughts constantly, and they are the main cause why we feel
fear, anger, hatred, jealousy.. they empower the ego energy within us, to
block us from being who we really are.
Let me know if anyone is interested in having these beings disconnected
from their etheric body.. it is done remotely and free of charge. A lot of folks
on this forum have a great amount of such beings blocking their awakening,
so if you feel something is holding you back, then odds are you can be helped
greatly by this healing. Once they are disconnected, no new beings can ever
attach themselves to you again. It doesn't mean they can no longer influence
you, but it means their control over you, over your thoughts, and over your
feelings, is greatly reduced.. and it means their energy is no longer attached
to yours.
kingmob
16-10-2010, 06:38 PM
Mind altering drugs often allow you to see the aliens and interdimensional
beings that are attached to you. That is why many people see these beings
when they are on such drugs. Some people have literally thousands of such
entities attached to them.. personally I only had a few hundred, but I met
someone who had over three thousand interdimensional beings attached to
him, and almost two thousand extraterrestrial souls attached to him. These
beings attach to you to block you from spiritually awakening, they feed us
subliminal thoughts constantly, and they are the main cause why we feel
fear, anger, hatred, jealousy.. they empower the ego energy within us, to
block us from being who we really are.
Let me know if anyone is interested in having these beings disconnected
from their etheric body.. it is done remotely and free of charge. A lot of folks
on this forum have a great amount of such beings blocking their awakening,
so if you feel something is holding you back, then odds are you can be helped
greatly by this healing. Once they are disconnected, no new beings can ever
attach themselves to you again. It doesn't mean they can no longer influence
you, but it means their control over you, over your thoughts, and over your
feelings, is greatly reduced.. and it means their energy is no longer attached
to yours.
I'd be willing to try it. May be it will improve my astral successes :cool:
zsymon
16-10-2010, 06:58 PM
I'd be willing to try it. May be it will improve my astral successes :cool:
Please don't get me wrong, I didn't say taking mind altering drugs is a good
thing, because I really don't think it is. But it explains why people see aliens
or other creatures when they take them.
These drugs often create doorways into your soul, through which even more
beings can come through and attach themselves to your etheric body. If you
don't know how to close these doorways, then it's best to stay far away from
such drugs. Ayahuasca is one of those nasty drugs that make you vulnerable
to a whole range of otherdimensional negative beings.
Then if you actually start believing what these beings tell you, after they've
come to you through the doorways opened by Ayahuasca, you will be very
far away from your spiritual path.
kingmob
16-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Please don't get me wrong, I didn't say taking mind altering drugs is a good
thing, because I really don't think it is. But it explains why people see aliens
or other creatures when they take them.
These drugs often create doorways into your soul, through which even more
beings can come through and attach themselves to your etheric body. If you
don't know how to close these doorways, then it's best to stay far away from
such drugs. Ayahuasca is one of those nasty drugs that make you vulnerable
to a whole range of otherdimensional negative beings.
Then if you actually start believing what these beings tell you, after they've
come to you through the doorways opened by Ayahuasca, you will be very
far away from your spiritual path.
Umm what?
Mind altering drugs are great :D
sh3lly
16-10-2010, 09:13 PM
The point I wasn't trying to make is that conversations like this have little merit since its mostly hearsay and wild speculation due to the fact that most of us have no idea what a Pleades is. Speculating whether they are benevolent or malevolent just because some douche likes the attention and makes up wild claims is not something we should waste our time with.
You seem to be here wasting time telling everyone else they shouldn't be wasting their time. ;) If you think it's a waste of time, the solution should be simple for you. Stop posting in threads like this. If other people want to "waste" their time discussing possibilities and the unknown, why shouldn't they continue? :)
lyricusmagna
16-10-2010, 10:11 PM
i'd like to talk to people hea bout this subject, seems to have been relegated to the side lines,
even in a forums like hea it seems that negativity is consuming people,
i just red 'bringers of the dawn'
i was fuckin blown away, happened after the 'matariki' in nz
all positive, uplifting,
the details don't matter to me,
please i would love to see what the sceptics have to say ;)
Only some Pleiadians are positive. The rest have a personal agenda, with no particular interests in humanity and its welfare.