Free Energy... this is incredible!

[cruise4]

I've been looking at this stuff over the last day or so and find it incredible. Free Energy, Zero Point, Over Unity, Hydrogen, Solar... you name it. All appears to be Technology that has existed for years, could have been utilised for years and has been deliberately suppressed for years. Not only that but anyone with a bit of DIY skill should be able to make the kit needed in their back yard. We have all been universally screwed by these so called Fuel Companies. Please look at these links for further information and I urge anyone that can, to download and archive the information. There does seem to be agencies not happy with this info becoming widespread... but they are too late.

Anybody seriously concerned with the environment, the third world, poverty and pollution needs to see this stuff. This tech could do more to end the suffering in this world than anything else I have seen.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/

http://www.waterpoweredcar.com

http://www.knowledgepublications.com/

Media Files
http://befreetech.com/media.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+c ar+inventor+murdered

Distilled water
http://www.solaqua.com

Windmills and solar
http://www.otherpower.com/otherpowerfront.shtml

http://www.penguinslab.com/

http://www.ldolphin.org/energetic.html

http://www.creative-science.org.uk/gensimple1.html

Magnets
http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm

User Groups
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hydroxy/

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=121&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[auron]

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[yeiayel]

Using Tesla and others tecnology we can give free energy to whole planet earth. Milions and milions of watts free. And this fools make war for petroleum!

[synergy777]

will check the posts/links, also look inot the electric universe hypothesis, and you realise, its everywhere.

[hagbard_celine]

Let nobody believe the hype about them "desperately searching for a practical alternative to fossil fuels, other than dirty, dangerous nuclear fission". When someone actually finds such an alternative the elite show their true colours.

Prime example: In Llanelli, south Wales a few years ago a man decided to start running his diesel car on cooking oil. This is perfectly possible and safe, and it's actually very low emission, less than 20% that of diesel (Don't try this is your car has a petrol (gasoline) engine. It will bung it up good and proper!) The oil doesn't even need to be clean. This guy just went down the local chippie at closing time and asked for the oil they usually just pour down the drain; he took it home, strained the bits out with a sieve and siphoned it into his car's tank. He was crucified by the law! He was dragged up into court and prosecuted for evading the fuel tax! He was fined £1000 for not paying tax on a product he hadn't bought! This shows what a panic the authorities were in to stop him! It also shows the true situation we're in. From the moment we receive a driving license or buy our first car, we are legally obliged to use the fuel provided by official sources. If we don't, well... muggers and burglars sometime get treated more leniently in court.

I mean, what are we going to do!? go up to the chairman of Shell or Exxon and say "Sorry, your services are no longer required."?

[synergy777]

its a racket, run by a cartel, who have a monopoly.

[truthsayer]

People who've invented new, clean and free energy have been killed for it.

Their was a guy in Ireland, I remember my dad telling me about him he was under constant guard because of all the attempts on his life; they got him in the end. He'd invented a new car engine that could run on free fuel; water. That was years ago.

I've know about alternative fuels for years through my dad who was always expressing his frustration at how held back we were and all these great new inventions never used because of greed and power mongers.

Back in the 80's my dad informed me they were already doing road side recycling in Germany and we've only really started recycling here in the UK. The UK is pretty slow to pick new things up anyway.

We are being deliberately held back technologically in general though; globally.

Blue Ray for example, fully developed back in the 80's and possibly even earlier, yet is only being utilised now (PS3, etc.).

Its no conspiracy; we are being help back and already have a great many advancements not being used and hidden from us as well as those we know about.

I think, if we knew the full extent of technology in reality of the hidden advancements, we'd be blown away and think we were viewing a sci-fi.

[ashyr]

theres so many of these type of sites out there. i think that was a plan from the start , purchase all the crazy types who think they have free energy and manufacture all these hoad free energy devices to confuse and deter the rest of the people working with it.

which are the real ones/. anyone know?

[phoenixchilde]

There's a scientist who lives and works just a few cities over from me. He's actually the guy who invented the Canadarm, for those of you who've heard of it. He took the money he made from that(loads) and started his own company devoted to something called the Sterling Engine. It's supposed to be some kind of clean generator, but I have no idea how it works. The company he started is off in the country, protected by high hedges and fences all around. Based on his credentials, and the amount of security he's got, I'd say he's for real.

[cruise4]

The J-cell and water stuff is for real. People have built them and they work. I'd have to say its probably all real until proved otherwise. Looking at the discussion forums helps. There are plans and real products amonst those links you know. And never write anything Tesla did off. True genius!

[ngawaka19]

........ anything Tesla did off. True genius!

I think true alien.

Sad part is 'they' have known about it since 'those ones' arrived early this century.

Why have they chained us to pay for something thats disfunctional to our environment and something we could of had for free and friendlier to our environment....................???????

Why would humans do this??"????

The real question is........who is in control? human or alien??

[ashyr]

the jcell is that what divers use?
my father is a profesional diver. "free and tank etc' i rmemeber he had tehse cool little plastic things. looked like GIANT bits of lego. and u put them in salt water and they react making it like a battery so u can have LIGHTS down under the sea.

[phoenixchilde]

Why have they chained us to pay for something thats disfunctional to our environment and something we could of had for free and friendlier to our environment....................???????

Money and power, the oldest stories in the book. The gas companies are rich, they've got a monopoly as long as they get along with each other, so they won't give it up.

It's the same reason that the northern hemisphere is largely capitalistic. It's clearly a failed system, but it's still in place because the people in power are all benefitting from it, while the rest of us suffer.

[cruise4]

3 weeks ago a few friends and I decided to make a joe cell...

INTRODUCTION
The results were fasinating, so we went on to make an electrolysis
unit of the same design. We decided as patience is required to make
joe cells, we would continue with the joe cell experiment and move on
to some 'basic' electrolysis in the hope that we could use the extra
current from a cars alternator to improve efficiency (like the hydro
boost system, but bigger!)

316 STAINLESS STEEL
Luckily, we know lots of people that use 316L stainless steel, so off
we went to raid a few scrap bins from local companies...

STAINLESS PARTS LIST:
1 x 11" by 5" Tube
1 x 7" by 4" Tube
2 x 7" by 3" Tube
1 x 7" by 2" Tube
1 x 13" Circle 5mm Thick
1 x 3m threaded bar
32 x Nuts for the threaded bar
4 x bolts for feet (on the base)
1 x massive bolt for the negative electrode
1 x 12" square of 1mm sheet
2 x 3mm by wahtever (it is scrap) plates to use as lids

RUBBER:
Solid O-RING Rubber (spacing tubes)
5mm deep O-RING for the base bolt
3mm Neoprene Sheet
1mm Reinforced Rubber

HYDRAULICS
High Pressure Tube and Connectors
Pressure Gauge 1bar
Pressure Cut Off Switch 15 psi
Gas Tap
Acetylene Torch (to use the gas for welding and cutting)

POWER SYSTEM
1 x pair of jump leads or cable with crocodile clips
1 x rubbish car battery

ELECTROLYTE
water
caustic soda (99.99% sodium hydroxide)

HOW TO BUILD (in brief)
The tubes were positioned on the large stainless circle base, marked
and removed, the circle base was then drilled and tapped to accomodate
the various pipe fittings.
A piece of stainless sheet was cut to make a star shape which is used
to hold the inner tube to the centre bolt (which is also the negative
terminal) see joe cell designs...
The concentric tubes were then fitted together and held in place with
small pieces of solid o-ring rubber. 5" outer tube, with the 4", 3"
and 2" tubes inside, leaving 4cm of free space underneath.

The spare 3" tube is just a flashback bubbler, probably the most
important thing in the system, designed like a bong. The gas coming in
bubbles through the water and the gas going out doesn't. Flashbacks do
occur as acetylene torch arresters do not quite stop the Browns Gas
(Hydroxy, Oxyhydros, HHO...)

The threaded bar was cut into equal lengths (4 x 13" and 4 x 11") and
the whole system is then bolted together. The pressure gauge is fitted
to the bubbler, along with a tube to the acetylene torch.

The cutting torch is amazing...

RESULTS
We bubbled the gas into a full bottle of inverted water to measure the
displacement and therefore the volume of gas produced Wink

Using a current limiting (brand new) power supply and a high quality
(brand new) multimeter we discovered we were producing between 60 and
100 litres of gas per hour with between 12 and 20amps at 12 volts. The
results varied tremendously as you can see, based on electrolyte
concentrations and temperature, the warmer the better.

These results seemed quite promising so we asked an electrical
engineer to do the same power/production test with us and he concluded
the following:

60 litres = 100Wh = 1.6Wh per litre

This is totally rounded down at every stage to give the worst possible
results(ie worst litre production figures used)

Then I noticed Kanarev's results for highly efficient electrolysis:

1000 litres = 4 KWh = 4Wh per litre

FORKLIFT TRUCK
We fitted the gas genertor to a forklift truck, set up to run on
propane. The truck tried to start but didn't seem to have enough gas.
To solve this problem we safely filled a propane can with Brown's Gas
and then reconnected it to the truck. It ran really smooth!

WELDING AND CUTTING
The flame is like a laser, ultra sharp piont and very controllable.
It is true what you read on the web, the flame is not that hot but
when it hits the surface of something it reaches whatever temperature
is required to melt, burn, etc...

CONCLUSION
At least 50% of the people involved have high level degrees and other
qualifications suitable for this kind of experimentation, but to be
honest, no one thought it would work so well... The physics books must
be full of lies! And it easy to see why, if every physics, maths or
chemistry student new that you could 'easily' run a car, cook and heat
your house with water, with no environmental impact and save money, no
one would be pissing about with GREENPEACE and FRIENDS OF THE EARTH...

ARMCHAIR SCIENTISTS
If anyone decides to post negative remarks regarding this project,
please remember, we have done it, it works, it has been checked and
for less than a days work and £200 max, you could help to save the
planet too!

Go on, have a go!


Update:

Since making the torch we have discovered that much smaller tubes can be used. If you use just three tubes of 75mm length, with the biggest diameter being 50mm, then two smaller concentric tubes with no more than 2mm gap between the walls.
Put spacers in between the tubes so they cannot touch each other.
Connect a wire to the bottom of your centre tube
Connect a wire to the top of your outside tube
Now put the tubes in a container tall enough to cover the top of the tubes, like a coffee jar, then fill it with water
Connect the outside tube to the positive of a 12v car battery
Connect the inside to the negative

For instant results you can add a little rock salt or pure caustic soda but with patience the water will produce gradually more and more gas without electrolyte, but if it's slow use salt. I keep meaning to use an acid electrolyte but I've only just remembered it now.

Two of the above devices in Lucozade pop bottles were producing the same amount of gas as the big torch.

For a simple proof you can do the same as above but just use one tube a jar and a stainless bolt, connect the bolt as negative and tube as positive. This is small but you will get bubbles that you can explode with a lighter!

Use 316 food grade stainless steel, this has very little magnetism which helps the electrolysis process.

Thanks for your interest and I really do hope you give it a try, the hydroxy yahoo group seems to be disinformation, they're obsessed with flat plates but I promise you tubes are MUCH better.

Other good stuff is on http://jnaudin.free.fr/ but I haven't made any of it yet.
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[cruise4]

ashyr... tip: Click on the links:p

[adzboarder]

You are all right as usual. I am just going to offer one word, stick it in evil-google if you like and see what happens. Ready:

TESLA

[hagbard_celine]

for me, the most interesting "Free Energist" was Viktor Schauberger. he discovered a zero point energy source that is used by nature. It something anyone can observe if you can find a shallow, clear river where you can see the fish swimming. Schauberger, an Austrian, noticed that in winter the trout were able to propell themeselves very forcibly without moving their fins. He found out that this is because they use their gills for propulsion. The water forced through their gills is driven in a particular path that resembles a coiling implosion pattern. If the water flows in this path , and its temperature is below 3 degrees, something out-of-this-world happens: It gains more force than it loses to friction.

Schauberger built a working model of this system and it reached the attention on the Nazis who may well have used it in some of their flying saucer craft.

[cruise4]

Vortex technology:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/vtxtech.htm

Its all good stuff:o

[cruise4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btSTfzgtZm8

A single simple turbine design, by Joe Holden, (Rolce Royce engine), can power 30 homes! Upwardly scalable. End of the era

[cruise4]

Free Energy Plans and Designs

http://panaceauniversity.org/

You can right click on the page and select 'Download All' (if you have a download manager installed). Filter to PDF and download the lot easily.

http://www.nanodetonator.com/
http://www.nanodetonator.com/TECHNICAL_OVERVIEW.html

Apparently we are about to go massively Nuclear in Britain. What a mockery it all is when we could have free energy for all now.

[kblood]

Nice to see so many of these inventions comming forth :) I hope they will give up covering it up and let some of it be mass produced soon.

[jinjo5]

Using Tesla and others tecnology we can give free energy to whole planet earth. Milions and milions of watts free. And this fools make war for petroleum!
Petroleum is the distraction,the powers that be would crap themselves if the truth were known,where would there power be then?
We are living a lie,this is not the true nature of things,we are being manipulated something rotten,but most seem to be happy in their ignorance.

[resistance]

Yep there is without a doubt sources and knowledge of alternative energy, we are being sold big time by the present system just because it keeps just a hand fall (the ruling elite) insanely rich. On top of that they now have the global warming scam up and running on us! brainwashing people to feel guilty about their so called carbon print when its them in the first place that choose tu use fossil fuels, anybody seen that pathetic carbon print government add? well anyway just tu be a different i named my boat global warmer (it has 2 engines) yu should see the look on some peoples faces when i'm filling her up or towing her around they have all totally bought this global warming scam haven't they! not tu say that i am not aware of fossils fuels causing some environmental damage mind, but nothing on the scale that most people are being mislead tu believe.

[jinjo5]

Yep there is without a doubt sources and knowledge of alternative energy, we are being sold big time by the present system just because it keeps just a hand fall (the ruling elite) insanely rich. On top of that they now have the global warming scam up and running on us! brainwashing people to feel guilty about their so called carbon print when its them in the first place that choose tu use fossil fuels, anybody seen that pathetic carbon print government add? well anyway just tu be a different i named my boat global warmer (it has 2 engines) yu should see the look on some peoples faces when i'm filling her up or towing her around they have all totally bought this global warming scam haven't they! not tu say that i am not aware of fossils fuels causing some environmental damage mind, but nothing on the scale that most people are being mislead tu believe.
...exactly...
the government,or who controls it,have quite deliberately shifted the blame on to us ordinary folk with the carbon footprint bollocks.
People need to realise that the oceans create more CO2 than we could ever create naturally.
global warming is natural,its got not nowt to do with man,we are just another species occupying the planet...........mother nature is bigger than us,cold.she may be,she has no love for the current tennant or any other past or present.

[hagbard_celine]

Petroleum is the distraction,the powers that be would crap themselves if the truth were known,where would there power be then?
We are living a lie,this is not the true nature of things,we are being manipulated something rotten,but most seem to be happy in their ignorance.

If they only knew then they wouldn't be happy! Ignorance is the key to the whole scam. When the secret fianally comes out it's going to blow our minds!

You're dead right. It's so naive when people get this idea that the energy companies are "Desperately seeking Free Energy... honest!" It would like a Turkey trying to invent Christmas! What are we going to do? just go up to the chairman of Shell and say "Sorry, your services are no longer required"? Would they tolerate that?

[reptilianshapeshifter]

Companies would still need to deliver and provide an infrastructure for energy so what would it matter where they got it from? Free energy doesn't mean free cost. It means producing energy from nowhere or extremely cheaply and without cost to the environment (or that last clause should be a prerequisite).

The only real problem would be if people could create free energy machines and install them cheaply at home, but let's be serious. If this was possible then we would all be able to use plans off the net from someone who has created a free energy machine and right now you can't even get those.

If free energy existed the oil companies could even hoodwink us. Pretending to drill for oil when they are burning nothing of the sort and make even more profit by delivering us energy they are making from nowhere. In all serious, I don't think people have really thought it through other than thinking that the major oil companies would lose out. I don't necessary believe that to be the case. I think it's more likely there are no working prototypes of free energy.

[hagbard_celine]

Companies would still need to deliver and provide an infrastructure for energy so what would it matter where they got it from? Free energy doesn't mean free cost. It means producing energy from nowhere or extremely cheaply and without cost to the environment (or that last clause should be a prerequisite).

It might not mean free cost, but it doesn’t mean extremely reduced cost. If what investigators like Stephen Greer are saying is true, we’re talking about generators small enough to keep in a cupboard, that cost a relative pittance, that could fuel everything in your house indefinitely, totally free of charge.

The only real problem would be if people could create free energy machines and install them cheaply at home, but let's be serious. If this was possible then we would all be able to use plans off the net from someone who has created a free energy machine and right now you can't even get those.

This scenario is what would happen. So the power companies, instead of creaming thousands of pounds a year off us for an energy source they completely control, we have small machines that cost a few hundred pounds that are one time only sales. The only running profit that could be made would come through maintenance and repair and some of these devices are said to be very reliable, being fitted to craft that travel through space and even other dimensions. these generators would be completely under private control. We'd own the source of our own power! A SUV can cost less than £20,000, but in its lifetime on the road it will guzzle £100,000 worth of petrol. Are you seriously planning on going up to the chairman of Shell and saying: “Sorry, your services are no longer required.”

What’s more, this issue is not just about money. the fossil fuel industry is the pivotal engine of the global political status quo. The introduction of Free Energy would have effects that we can only begin to guess at. It would immediately end the dominance of the West over the Third World. This would be a good thing for most of us, a very good thing. but if you’re in power then it would mean the deat of your empire. Of course the powers-that-be will try to suppress Free energy; it’s a poison to them! The Elite know that for them official Disclosure is effectively an act of suicide.

It's not just about how Free Energy will make their rule impossible for its inherent properties, but also through the fact that with Disclosure will come the bombshell that Black Budget science developed Free Energy at least 60 years ago, and probably quite a bit earlier. So all the environmental destruction, all the species that have died out and forests that have been cut down, all the pollution, all the filthy chimneys and deaths from poisoning, all the six-lane highways and pylons... have been for nothing! They could have been prevented with just five words: "We know about Free Energy". Will we ever trust the elite again? The Elite know that the question is rhetorical.

If free energy existed the oil companies could even hoodwink us. Pretending to drill for oil when they are burning nothing of the sort and make even more profit by delivering us energy they are making from nowhere. In all serious, I don't think people have really thought it through other than thinking that the major oil companies would lose out. I don't necessary believe that to be the case. I think it's more likely there are no working prototypes of free energy.

This kind of scam is an amusing idea, but impossible. Without the need for centralized power station-based electricity generation then there will be power lines, no wires, no pylons. It’s hard to see where they could disguise their source

[revolutionary_jam]

does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?

[hagbard_celine]

does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?

Many such devices are advertized across the net. As far as I know they are all amateurish and unworkable and many are fakes. The real Free Energy deivces tend not to be shouted from the rooftops in that fashion! Things like the Searl-effect machine and the Scahuberger implosion coil have been classified by the govt, like the Nazis did their flying saucer project. In some cases, like Frank Searl and Wilhelm Reich, the inventers end up in jail!:mad:

[kashmirz]

very interesting

[whitenight639]

does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?


www.keelynet.com
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watercar/
http://panaceauniversity.org (http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf)

[dinachick]

Anyone want to get ahold of the joe cell parts and instructions/book can check this site http://www.nutech2000.com I might just attempt to try this one day (with some help)!:D

If the link doesn't work just google joe cell parts and the website nutech2000 will come up.

[whitenight639]

Anyone want to get ahold of the joe cell parts and instructions/book can check this site http://www.nutech2000.com I might just attempt to try this one day (with some help)!:D

If the link doesn't work just google joe cell parts and the website nutech2000 will come up.

Dont build the joe cell it dosnt work, you'll keep getting wet when u have to take it apart! try a meyer replication or some of the others detailed in the warcar group or on panacea uni website- trust me i tried!