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geo2
08-08-2007, 10:34 AM
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Why microwave users are so unhealthy
Consumers are dying today in part because they continue to eat dead foods that are killed in the microwave. They take a perfectly healthy piece of raw food, loaded with vitamins and natural medicines, then nuke it in the microwave and destroy most of its nutrition. Humans are the only animals on the planet who destroy the nutritional value of their food before eating it. All other animals consume food in its natural, unprocessed state, but humans actually go out of their way to render food nutritionally worthless before eating it. No wonder humans are the least healthy mammals on the planet.

The invention of the microwave and its mass adoption by the population coincides with the onset of obesity in developed nations around the world. Not only did the microwave make it convenient to eat more obesity-promoting foods, it also destroyed much of the nutritional content of those foods, leaving consumers in an ongoing state of malnourished overfeeding. In other words, people eat too many calories but not enough real nutrition. The result is, of course, what we see today: Epidemic rates of diabetes, cancer, heart disease, depression, kidney failure, liver disorders and much more. These diseases are all caused by a combination of malnutrition and exposure to toxic chemicals (plus other factors such as emotional trauma, lack of exercise, etc.). Microwaves make malnutrition virtually automatic, and being exposed to toxic chemicals is easy to accomplish by simply eating processed foods (which are universally manufactured with the addition of toxic chemicals that act as preservatives, colorings, flavor enhancers and so on).

Microwaving is, technically, a form of food irradiation. I find it interesting that people who say that would never eat “irradiated” food have no hesitation about microwaving their food. It’s the same thing (just a different wavelength of radiation). In fact, microwaves were originally called “radar ranges.” Sounds strange today, doesn’t it? But when microwaves were first introduced in the 1970’s, they were proudly advertised as radar ranges. You blast your food with high-intensity radar and it gets hot. This was seen as some sort of space-age miracle in the 1970’s. Perhaps someday an inventor will create a food heating device that does not radically alter the nutritional value of the foods in the process, but I’m not holding my breath on this one. Probably the best way to heat foods right now is to simply use a countertop toaster oven, and keep the heat as low as possible.

The microwave does work as advertised, by the way. It makes your food hot. But the mechanism by which heat is produced causes internal damage to the delicate molecular structures of vitamins and phytonutrients. Minerals are largely unaffected, however, so you’ll still get the same magnesium, calcium and zinc in microwaved foods as you would in non-microwaved foods, but the all-important B vitamins, anthocyanins, flavonoids and other nutritional elements are easily destroyed by microwave ovens.

The microwave is the appliance of the living dead. People who use the microwave on a regular basis are walking down a path towards degenerative disease and a lifelong battle with obesity. The more you use the microwave, the worse your nutritional state gets, and the more likely you are to be diagnosed with various diseases and put on pharmaceuticals which, of course, will create other health problems that lead to a grand spiraling nosedive of health
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/microwave-ovens-destroy-the-nutritional-value-of-your-food/969/#more-969

king
08-08-2007, 10:42 AM
microwaved food is poison!
get a microwave meter/reader.
check the radiation.
you will see that there is 100 times more radiation at 6 feet distance than safe levels!
if you are close to it, say less than 6 - feet -- you are being nuked!!!

i used my trimeter to check my microwave oven out -- and when i have seen the results -- i do not want that thing next to me.

danielg
08-08-2007, 11:36 AM
Far Infrared technology is the future of heating food without damaging it.
edit, ops!

synergy777
08-08-2007, 11:48 AM
of cause its bad, radiation, i nuke food now and then, but only as a last resort. what do peopel think, magic heatwaves warm it up, lol

logic bomb
08-08-2007, 12:25 PM
"In most research[conducted by the Russians]," Kopp writes, "the foods were exposed to microwave
propagation at an energy potential of 100 kilowatts per cubic centimeter per second, to the
point considered acceptable for sanitary, normal ingestion." [Kopp, William. "Microwave
Madness: The Effects of Microwave Apparatus on Food and Humans" in Perceptions,
May/June 1996, p. 30]

Under these "acceptable" conditions,

* Microwaved meats contain d-nitrosodiethanolamine, a well-known carcinogen.
* Cancer-causing agents are created in the protein-hydrolysate compounds in milk and
grains.
* The molecular composition of proteins and natural sugars is unnaturally altered.
* Even brief exposures of raw, cooked or frozen vegetables to microwaves enhance the
production of alkaloids (such as caffeine, morphine and strychnine) that are harmful to the
human body.
* The availability of vitamin complexes A, B, C and E, and essential minerals is vastly
reduced.
* The microwaves in the food bind with atmospheric radioactivity, creating additional harmful
radiation.

Simply put, because microwaved food is

1.) chemically and molecularly altered,
2.) its nutrients are lost and
3.) harmful compounds are created.

The body,

1.) exposed to foreign and dangerous substances and further
2.) deprived of the nutrients it needs, becomes sick.

Cancer is especially high in those eating microwaved food.
"A statistically higher percentage of cancerous growths result in [the stomach and
intestines]," Kopp writes, "plus a generalized breakdown of the peripheral cellular tissues and
a gradual degeneration of digestive and excretory functions." [Kopp, William. "Microwave
Madness: The Effects of Microwave Apparatus on Food and Humans" in Perceptions,
May/June 1996, p. 31]

www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/microwave_cooking.pdf

lb

deca
08-08-2007, 04:14 PM
yeah I have a detector and its frightening how much a microwave oven kicks out, do not stand in front of your microwave oven when using it,

also it will still emit high levels when not in use(still plugged in and clock on)
but have to be close to it.

when it use you get high levels even meters away,well I do have a cheap made
in china supermarket special perches one.:mad:


I will do a video of readings from it soon and post.

cleft_asunder
08-08-2007, 04:27 PM
Microwaves make me cringe. My family still uses them, and when I hear the buttons being pressed, I get angry. You also want to stay away from gas grills. The propane get's into the food, and it makes you high. I can't sleep at night when I use a gas grill, so I switched to a charcoal grill with natural briquette's.

synergy777
08-08-2007, 06:08 PM
cheers for the pdf, microwave radiation, they leave the radiation part out.

king
08-08-2007, 09:05 PM
i do not use microwave for many years now

a year or two ago I replaced a built in microwave above the stove, it used to power on by itself!
the microwave had a built in exaust fan instead of that
hood above stove with separate fan.

the only reason i replaced the microwave was because i needed the built in fan to pull out the fumes/smell while cooking on stove.

when i got my tri-meter, i turned microwave on 'defrost', so every 20 seconds it went on or off... and i watched the needle for microwave energy range go from zero to full swing -- 100 times the safe levels by Russian standards!
the needle was pegged, way in dangerous zone -- and this was measured from 6 feet.
then i switched the meter to magnetic field, and there was pretty strong mag field as well.

now, imagine standing next to it, 2 or 3 feet away while cooking, day after day?!

how bad is that? cancer coming up!
not to even mention dead food that people eat.

if anyone is using microwave for cooking their food -- you need to STOP USING IT NOW!!!

soglad
08-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Hmm, no more using the microwave for me. I rarely us it anyway.

auron
08-08-2007, 10:28 PM
There is one in the house here, but i don't use it. Read too much dodgy stuff about them.

energy
09-08-2007, 05:07 PM
yea absolutely, the most unnatural way of cooking, have a read through this page
The Proven Dangers of Microwaves
http://www.bariumblues.com/microwave_%20ovens.htm
If you've got one get rid

accuracy
11-08-2007, 09:38 AM
Please also check out this thread:

The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612&highlight=toxic+chemicals

infinitetruth
11-08-2007, 09:47 AM
There is a lot of radiation coming from the computer too! Does anyone remember the news report years ago about growing radiation in our homes?

The way to stop it being switching off all appliances, no standby having good ventilation etc etc. Then the report disappeared and we all have computers, and are encouraged to insulate our houses to the extreme leaving no fresh air going through our homes.

i_am
11-08-2007, 09:57 AM
Please also check out this thread:

The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612&highlight=toxic+chemicals


I haven't used a microwave in years.

I was just about to post that article from Nexus :)

Here 'tis anyway (seeing as how I already had it copied to paste)

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/microwave.html

auron
11-08-2007, 06:22 PM
There is a lot of radiation coming from the computer too!
Looks like I'm fucked then!! :D

fantana
12-08-2007, 12:27 AM
What about the children, the babies, whose mothers nuke their bottles of fake milk to feed it to them?

Thats nice and fair isnt it.

thisisactuallymyluciddream
12-08-2007, 01:37 AM
Ughh I know, everytime my cousin puts her childs bottle in I cringe:s. Ever since I can remember my father would refer to them as "nuking" and that just turned me off of them. It is an exact description though.

cleft_asunder
12-08-2007, 03:13 AM
Yeah, it makes me cringe when my friend uses it. I remember when my friend threw a get-together with some people, he dethawed frozen chicken in the microwave, which I didn't know about. As we were all eating, I noticed that the chicken fucking sucked. Everyone was commenting on how good it was, which surprised me. Although I do have very high standards for food, and therefore I'm more perceptive, I was still unable to grasp how they didn't notice how funny it was. The texture was off too.

A day later, my face broke out in acne. I'm extremely sensitive to anything that's bad like additives or fake food, but the microwave just does me in. You can show me 100 documents saying microwaves are safe, but my body says differently.

Get a toaster oven.

Also, I said this before, but gas used to cook food makes it toxic. The gas gets me high and I can't sleep at night, and it makes my skin bad. I switched to natural charcoal, and I'm never going back.

And above all, it's extremely easy to eat well, all you have to do is appreciate the basics. There are just so many simple foods out there, like canned beans, real pasta, rice, good meat, fruits, vegetables. Once you go natural, you save money because you only buy what your body needs, and your cart isn't filled to the fucking top like everyone elses.

whitenight639
12-08-2007, 03:44 AM
What about the children, the babies, whose mothers nuke their bottles of fake milk to feed it to them?

Thats nice and fair isnt it.

Thats a good point and did you hear the 'news' report on radio1 about how women can't be arsed to breast feed anymore because it hurts and isnt convienient its madness. Also freezing food is just as bad, anything that contains water and cells will be screwed because as the water freezes it makes ice crystals in the cells and rips them apart, hence why we cant freeze people yet.

king
12-08-2007, 06:08 AM
There is a lot of radiation coming from the computer too! Does anyone remember the news report years ago about growing radiation in our homes?

The way to stop it being switching off all appliances, no standby having good ventilation etc etc. Then the report disappeared and we all have computers, and are encouraged to insulate our houses to the extreme leaving no fresh air going through our homes.

you are talking about magnetic field, a very strong field.

i cannot measure any other form of energy with my trimeter that is way out of range BUT magnetic field.
what kind of radiation are you talking about?

fccool
12-08-2007, 08:05 AM
In 1991, there was a lawsuit in Oklahoma concerning the hospital use of a microwave oven to warm blood needed in a transfusion. The case involved a hip surgery patient, Norma Levitt, who died from a simple blood transfusion.

It seems the nurse had warmed the blood in a microwave oven. This tragedy makes it very apparent that there's much more to "heating" with microwaves than we've been led to believe. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed, but not in microwave ovens. In the case of Mrs. Levitt, the microwaving altered the blood and it killed her.

It's very obvious that this form of microwave radiation "heating" does something to the substances it heats. It's also becoming quite apparent that people who process food in a microwave oven are also ingesting these "unknowns".

Because the body is electrochemical in nature, any force that disrupts or changes human electrochemical events will affect the physiology of the body. This is further described in Robert O. Becker's book, The Body Electric, and in Ellen Sugarman's book, Warning, the Electricity Around You May Be Hazardous to Your Health.

i_am
12-08-2007, 09:04 AM
Microwaved Milk
Damages Babies' Brains

Mums who heat babies' milk in a microwave oven are exposing them to brain and liver damage, scientists warn in the leading medical journal The Lancet.

Researchers were shocked to find the super-fast ovens turn proteins in milk into poisons which attack vital organs

If you are thinking of buying a microwave oven, DON'T

Wait until the manufacturers have made the tests they should have carried out years ago.

(John Pullman, The Sun [UK], January 18, 1990)

Full Article here:

http://www.keepwell.com/microwaves.htm

That was written 17 years ago. Have they done those tests? Have they even told people of the dangers? :rolleyes:

kblood
12-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Mmmmmmmmm... radiation :p

Microwaved food doesnt taste all that nice, but I sometimes use it anyway. Mostly for popcorn and sometimes for making a sauce or boiling water :) Still it is very tasteable that the food isnt completely natural after a heating from what is basicly heatrays of radiation.

king
13-08-2007, 06:30 AM
When you call Customer Service and speak to someone in India who speaks English, but who cannot resolve your problem, perhaps it's a fault in the wiring?



http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7417/att1284188qp0.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1763/att1284187vs4.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4056/att1284186lh6.jpg

kblood
13-08-2007, 06:33 AM
Masters of pew pew :p

auron
13-08-2007, 06:37 AM
That looks similar to the back of my computers. :D

infinitetruth
14-08-2007, 09:31 AM
Yeah, it makes me cringe when my friend uses it. I remember when my friend threw a get-together with some people, he dethawed frozen chicken in the microwave, which I didn't know about. As we were all eating, I noticed that the chicken fucking sucked. Everyone was commenting on how good it was, which surprised me. Although I do have very high standards for food, and therefore I'm more perceptive, I was still unable to grasp how they didn't notice how funny it was. The texture was off too.

A day later, my face broke out in acne. I'm extremely sensitive to anything that's bad like additives or fake food, but the microwave just does me in. You can show me 100 documents saying microwaves are safe, but my body says differently.

Get a toaster oven.

Also, I said this before, but gas used to cook food makes it toxic. The gas gets me high and I can't sleep at night, and it makes my skin bad. I switched to natural charcoal, and I'm never going back.

And above all, it's extremely easy to eat well, all you have to do is appreciate the basics. There are just so many simple foods out there, like canned beans, real pasta, rice, good meat, fruits, vegetables. Once you go natural, you save money because you only buy what your body needs, and your cart isn't filled to the fucking top like everyone elses.

I totally understand. I physically cannot eat processed food because I get palpitations. I eat less now, but I eat higher quality food. I cannot stand gas - and we will be getting rid of our gas boiler soon. The cleaner my lifestyle has become the more sensitive I am to additives, chemicals etc. It's a good thing. My mum told me once that your children are always superior to you - I wasn't sure what that meant, but later I realized that when allergies are passed down genetically they are usually worse in the kids than in the parents and I believe this is because the kids have evolved, they are more senstiive to the lifestyle and their body is doing something about it.

I see people in the supermarket with tons of rubbish. They say organic is expensive - but when you only buy organic, untouched food it limits you to what you can buy - you end up spending a lot less. We see couples out with their kids feeding them pop drinks and icecream. My kids drink only water and never have icecream or sweets. They don't miss it. In fact they don't even want it when offered by other people. I have instinctively tried not to sway them in their food choices. They do not have TV to entice them to junk food, and I do not say what I like or don't like in front of them. I try to let them learn.

My youngest wanted a tangerine and he ate the skin and I let him - he ended up leaving the skin after a while. So he made the choice.. not me. When I give them meat to eat I leave everything on and they always decide to eat the fat first. I was always disgusted by fat as a child because I was brought up in the 'fat is bad' era. But I try not to question their choices of food - I want them to grow up with a true sense of taste rather than the dulled senses we get from eating MSG and horredous stuff these days.

infinitetruth
14-08-2007, 09:34 AM
you are talking about magnetic field, a very strong field.

i cannot measure any other form of energy with my trimeter that is way out of range BUT magnetic field.
what kind of radiation are you talking about?

I am not qualified enough to know what radiation. But one of my relatives worked for a famous computer company testing the microwaves and radiation from computer products.

If you work in an office full of computers, the computers themselves can heat up the room.

energy
14-08-2007, 08:28 PM
you are talking about magnetic field, a very strong field.

i cannot measure any other form of energy with my trimeter that is way out of range BUT magnetic field.
what kind of radiation are you talking about?

I think it's the wireless Internet wi-fi that is a radiation threat have A read of this Article.http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=913

whitenight639
14-08-2007, 10:04 PM
My youngest wanted a tangerine and he ate the skin and I let him - he ended up leaving the skin after a while. So he made the choice.. not me. When I give them meat to eat I leave everything on and they always decide to eat the fat first. I was always disgusted by fat as a child because I was brought up in the 'fat is bad' era. But I try not to question their choices of food - I want them to grow up with a true sense of taste rather than the dulled senses we get from eating MSG and horredous stuff these days.

thats a great way to raise kids, I will do the same when i have kids, thats real freedom when they make there own decisions about how and what they eat, the bodies chemical processes are still not fully understood and i believe that if you get that strange urge for cucumber at 3am then thats what your body needs, simple but people ignore these urges and eat so much crap all they have urges for these days is caffine and processed sugar, because there addicted to there diet and there body has adjusted to survive on crap.
2 generations ago during the war they practically ate lard sandwiches and i they didnt have an obesity epedemic.

infinitetruth
15-08-2007, 12:03 PM
thats a great way to raise kids, I will do the same when i have kids, thats real freedom when they make there own decisions about how and what they eat, the bodies chemical processes are still not fully understood and i believe that if you get that strange urge for cucumber at 3am then thats what your body needs, simple but people ignore these urges and eat so much crap all they have urges for these days is caffine and processed sugar, because there addicted to there diet and there body has adjusted to survive on crap.
2 generations ago during the war they practically ate lard sandwiches and i they didnt have an obesity epedemic.

Very true. You know, the most shocking thing is that my son gets the most sweets not from my parents but from his TEACHERS! Nearly every week at school he comes home with a sweet because he has been 'good' or the class has done well. Although its just a tiny sweet, it annoys me sometimes because they seem to glorify these foods- why I don't know. Usually he lets me put it in my pocket, sometimes he forgets about it sometimes he doesn't. But he never asks for sweets when we go to the shops. Its always 'can I have an apple' or strawberries or grapes or something which is cool.

infinitetruth
15-08-2007, 12:04 PM
I think it's the wireless Internet wi-fi that is a radiation threat have A read of this Article.http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=913

hmmm, thats pretty scary. I know I get a headache with bluetooth, I can't use it at all. Been a bit heady with wifi too - maybe time to give it up. (even though i only just got it LOL)

geo2
16-08-2007, 03:11 PM
:) thanks for the additional info... i waited years to see a short/simple article on Micro-Wave-Ovens.........

:cool: back about 30years ago a friends Mexican 'daddy' who was in his 'eighty's' and drank a bottle of 'Rum' + other 'stuff' a day and also 'smoked' and worked as a 'mechanic' on cars even in his eighty's, { on his back2, under the cars/taxi's } said "eat' just what your mind says to eat while we were 'juicing-it-up' and eating in a Mexican/American Restaurant on East 116 St in 'Spanish-Harlem' {nyc]... good advice to let the young ones pick and eat what they like with some 'good-data' also supplied................................... Infinity

whitenight639
16-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Very true. You know, the most shocking thing is that my son gets the most sweets not from my parents but from his TEACHERS! Nearly every week at school he comes home with a sweet because he has been 'good' or the class has done well. Although its just a tiny sweet, it annoys me sometimes because they seem to glorify these foods- why I don't know. Usually he lets me put it in my pocket, sometimes he forgets about it sometimes he doesn't. But he never asks for sweets when we go to the shops. Its always 'can I have an apple' or strawberries or grapes or something which is cool.

That is cool, hes going to be healthy i think during childhood is esspecially the most important time to eat right, and if i were in your situ id have a word with a teacher you wouldnt feed someone else dog sweets etc without asking the owners permission first (well thats how i was brought up). but its ok because were only human, less than dogs we work for the banks and besides they are 'educating' your son so its ok. Processed sugar is more addictive than cocaine. Anyway its good he asks for fruit and has a short memory regarding the sweets! lol Keep up the good work, if everyone else were to bring up there kids in a simalar fashion we would have a healthier and happier future with less avoidable deaths and diseases.

king
01-09-2007, 06:40 AM
wrong thread

e7304
01-09-2007, 09:26 AM
I lived on microwave cooking for years. When I left my "home" in the north of Western Australia in Nov 2005, the first thing I throw out was my microwave. I had, being an avid reader of Nexus, always known it was not good for me, but being single and "food" being not an "essential" part of my life..ie I ate when I was hungry but thats it!!...I kept thinking "I know its bad...but its so bloody convienient!!!!!".

A slow cooker , i think is better if you like easy foods and the fact that the authorities DO NOT talk about the problems is another arrow in the quiver of people who can see how Industrialists lie and can get away with it.

The BEST USE OF A MICRO WAVE is too kill micro chipped cards. Sapp them now but obviously the technology wil be upgraded soon. It KILLS those pesky RFID chips. If YOU ARE SERIOUS, PUT YOUR UNDIES, JEANS, SHIRTS ...WHATEVER IN THE MICROWAVE. I do it, but its just habit. I dont know if it does work.......BUT it causes some real funny conversations in my shared house.

Its the only time I use the microwave.......it really causes arguements.

king
31-10-2007, 02:14 AM
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eternal_spirit
31-10-2007, 02:43 AM
wrong thread

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LOL, anyway good job done
this is a good thread.

king
01-11-2007, 01:53 AM
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LOL, anyway good job done
this is a good thread.


for some reason my auto login RoboForm always remember this page, so when i try to post sometimes quickly it goes on this thread.

king
05-12-2007, 04:54 AM
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cew91
06-12-2007, 12:30 AM
Just adding somthing ive noticed with microwaves. ive seen two cases of this. One person has a microwave on the fridge, the woman got a brain tumour. Another was a friend of mines mother who kept the microwave just above the bench chest height... she died of breast cancer.

shellygurrrl
06-12-2007, 01:03 AM
Yeah, I've often wondered about this. I have one and use it for convenience sometimes.

You can't make a boogeyman out of everything though. It's easy to, but we shouldn't.

You could say cell phones are harmful, computers, anything and everything is harmful! At the same time, none of it is, in my opinion.

You control it with your mind.
Keep thinking something is harmful and eventually it will be!

2tuff
06-12-2007, 04:06 AM
Whats good is that in Japan and soon here we will have the STEAM OVEN take over as a craze from the dreadful Microwave which the Russians banned incidentally.

sweetspirits
08-12-2007, 02:32 AM
I haven`t had one in my home in years and I don`t ever plan on having one again. It disgusts me that everyone, practically everyone use those things everyday like its nothing.
I`m glad to hear that there are people (not in person that I know of) don`t use those shits. Thanks for sharing this bit of info, simple things like this does make a difference in matters to live a better healthier life. Its the small things that matter and make a difference.

millhouse
27-12-2007, 08:50 PM
My microwaves getting chucked out tomorrow! its a 30 minute trip to the nearest skip , but i should do this one in 2 minutes!

zarah
27-12-2007, 09:13 PM
When we moved I didn't replace the microwave we had after Id read some pretty nasty stuff about it and I don't miss it at all.

Ive had the same thing with meat thawed in the microwave..it doesn't taste right at all. Kinda rubbery and tough, I can always tell. Yuck..

i_am
27-12-2007, 11:51 PM
I haven`t had one in my home in years and I don`t ever plan on having one again. It disgusts me that everyone, practically everyone use those things everyday like its nothing.
I`m glad to hear that there are people (not in person that I know of) don`t use those shits. Thanks for sharing this bit of info, simple things like this does make a difference in matters to live a better healthier life. Its the small things that matter and make a difference.


I threw mine out about 15 years ago.

I have honestly never missed it..

weston white
28-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Where can you purchase a gauge at? That sort of scares me I hardly use my microwave, but I keep it on top of the fridge so it is out of the way, I will be getting rid of it now though.

swoarg
28-12-2007, 08:28 PM
i will never use one that gause on the front aperently stops
the microwaves getting out caus the microwaves are larger then the gause :confused:phew dodgey if you ask me i wonder what the range is when they first came out i am sure you could feel urself cooking :eek:

gordonfreeman
28-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Screw Microwave! I prefer to use Fire and sometimes conventional oven.

chromeranger
29-12-2007, 02:32 PM
I used to work at a vegan co-op as a kitchen assistant and worked my way up to chef.
This place was more of a vegan junk food joint (like Red-Veg) rather than promoting a healthy plant based diet.
I say this because all the food was microwaved! Sure all the produce we would use was locally grown organic veg but whats the point of nuking it all before serving the customer?
At busy times there was two microwaves constantly on full power reheating orders since all cooked food would be cooked beforehand and kept in the fridge. The kitchen was too small to acommodate steam tables, although we did use a smallish one for sunday breakfast.
By the end of my shifts I was almost always feeling intoxicated, like I just walked out of a nuclear reactor.

whitenight639
29-12-2007, 07:17 PM
I used to work at a vegan co-op as a kitchen assistant and worked my way up to chef.
This place was more of a vegan junk food joint (like Red-Veg) rather than promoting a healthy plant based diet.
I say this because all the food was microwaved! Sure all the produce we would use was locally grown organic veg but whats the point of nuking it all before serving the customer?
At busy times there was two microwaves constantly on full power reheating orders since all cooked food would be cooked beforehand and kept in the fridge. The kitchen was too small to acommodate steam tables, although we did use a smallish one for sunday breakfast.
By the end of my shifts I was almost always feeling intoxicated, like I just walked out of a nuclear reactor.

the co-op in my local town has illumanti written all over it it recently got refitted and theve put Tvs on the wall you face when our at the checkout, it has a big eye symbol and some text runs across the screen with the latest 'news' its like that scene out of children of men, the TV's dont even advertise products just 'news' and there symbolism, bearing in mind this town isnt massive and niether is the shop i will get a picture next time im in there its shocking.

otto vollov
29-12-2007, 07:28 PM
Compare that to the mega mall in our town that has TVs hanging on the walls everywhere and all they show is commercials for stuff to buy. No news just commercials, all the time.

In the states the PTB are talking about gamma raying everything that we eat before it goes to market. Pastuerizing almonds, before sale. All of the because a few got sick from e-coli. Problem, Reaction, Solution, and presto everyone's sick and dieing from gamma radiation.

misscpb
14-01-2008, 11:03 PM
I used to work at a vegan co-op as a kitchen assistant and worked my way up to chef.
This place was more of a vegan junk food joint (like Red-Veg) rather than promoting a healthy plant based diet.
I say this because all the food was microwaved! Sure all the produce we would use was locally grown organic veg but whats the point of nuking it all before serving the customer?
At busy times there was two microwaves constantly on full power reheating orders since all cooked food would be cooked beforehand and kept in the fridge. The kitchen was too small to acommodate steam tables, although we did use a smallish one for sunday breakfast.
By the end of my shifts I was almost always feeling intoxicated, like I just walked out of a nuclear reactor.

Oh No, thats one place you would not have expected that :rolleyes:

ozpixie
27-07-2011, 03:09 AM
I've always had an aversion to eating food that has been microwaved. This media release on how the technology can be used to control weeds supports my feeling that the food is irrevocably damaged as the microwaves are applied.

http://www.rirdc.gov.au/news-&-events/news-display.cfm?article=972F69CA-04AE-5D2F-EEB5-BA03A70BBCFF

ufochick
27-07-2011, 03:33 AM
I have never liked them either. We didn't have one in the house until the 9o's and then nothing the kids are went in it and only potatoes for us.

deca
27-07-2011, 04:15 AM
interesting:cool:

eternal_spirit
27-07-2011, 05:51 AM
Indeed. Never knew that.

allure
27-07-2011, 08:43 PM
I had dinner in my parents house on Sunday and it was the first time I'd eaten anything that had been microwaved in about 3 years. It was just a baked potato, started in the micro and finished in the oven.

My old microwave I just used as a cupboard until I told my landlord to take it away.

gracist
28-07-2011, 02:47 PM
I stopped eating microwaved food because I thought it was probably bad for you. About a year ago I ate something that was microwaved and immediately got a horrible headache for about an hour. Now I know I was right and I won't eat microwaved food again.

dude111
30-07-2011, 10:50 AM
Consumers are dying today in part because they continue to eat dead foods that are killed in the microwave. They take a perfectly healthy piece of raw food, loaded with vitamins and natural medicines, then nuke it in the microwave and destroy most of its nutrition. Humans are the only animals on the planet who destroy the nutritional value of their food before eating it. All other animals consume food in its natural, unprocessed state, but humans actually go out of their way to render food nutritionally worthless before eating it. No wonder humans are the least healthy mammals on the planet.Very good indeed!

Yes i dont like putting stuff in the microwave BECAUSE IT RUINS IT! (It becomes soggy,etc)

I would rather wait the extra few minutes warming the stove/oven up and get a good warm meal instead of 1/2 hot,1/2 cold...........

fancellu
03-12-2011, 05:32 PM
http://www.foodmatters.tv/_webapp_195175/What_Is_Your_Microwave_Doing_To_Your_Health

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/18/microwave-hazards.aspx

I have never had one thankfully, never will.

ufochick
03-12-2011, 07:01 PM
I have always been suspect of them. I have one I use it very little. I prefer to reheat things on the stove. What really bothers me is the number of people who warm baby milk in them... that's scary.

Many years ago, when microwaves were out there and being sold but not everyone had one and there were no built-in models I worked in a pediatric unit of a hospital. I was one who helped mothers with the babies. Many of the little babies had cancer.

The one thing that almost all of the mothers had in common was they loved to cook and had a lot of kitchen apliances. I began asking what appliances they had, all of them I talked with had microwaves and many other appliances that they used daily/frequently.

I came (no proof except to me, I am making no claims but giving you something to think about) to the conclusion that all of these appliances being run at belly height had contributed to the cancer in the babies.

Most of the women had, microwave, blender, toater, electric can opener, food processor, toaster oven, beverage maker, counter top mixer and more on their counters. They all said they cooked from scratch while pregnant so they got healthy food.

I always tell the women close to me to limit what appliances they use during pregnancy, or use ones you can turn on and walk away and to avoid microwaves and electromagnetic fields.

alienbiketrail
03-12-2011, 07:10 PM
My microwave is my main cooking appliance I even make nuked scrambled eggs sometimes,but rarely.

gracist
04-12-2011, 05:07 AM
I stopped using microwaves on suspicion and then after about a year had something that was microwaved and immediately had a terrible headache. Haven't used one since-that was enough for me

dreamweaver
04-12-2011, 05:47 AM
I suspect that "ready meals" are more harmful than the microwave process itself, due to their high sugar, additives and general processed crap content. The problem with the two articles in the OP is that they rely on vague scaremongering and are very short of actual hard data.

The very first post in response to the first link looks to me to be quite a good critique: "You don't offer any scientific explanation for what is going on whatsoever. As a result I find this article questionable. Making comments like this you need to be specific as to what precisely the microwaving is doing that causes toxins, and seeing as it's hardly new technology, it shouldn't be too hard to explain. What is the evidence and what is it doing that is wrong? My dad has a physics degree, and cancer, which he spends much time researching, and he reckons the way microwaves work is not only harmless, but actually cooking vegetables that way kills less vitamins than conventional boiling and steaming because the vegetables are cooked quicker and don't require the same level of heating. Apparently microwaving is not good for protein though, which becomes altered in structure in the microwave, perhaps this is why it damaged the person's blood. However, without citing any other details of the case, it's pretty hard to prove it was the microwaving of the blood that killed them.. "

Personally I do occasionally use a microwave to heat up real food, e.g. potatoes or leftover home-made soup that I had previously frozen.

But it's a very personal thing. If you don't feel safe using one, then don't use one. Trust your instincts.

mistergreen
04-12-2011, 06:28 AM
http://www.foodmatters.tv/_webapp_195175/What_Is_Your_Microwave_Doing_To_Your_Health

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/18/microwave-hazards.aspx

I have never had one thankfully, never will.

me too :D

nirvana
04-12-2011, 07:31 AM
How are microwaves bad for you and what % of people get ill from using them. Too much speculation leads to paranoia and fear.:eek:

pepsi78
04-12-2011, 07:53 AM
How are microwaves bad for you and what % of people get ill from using them. Too much speculation leads to paranoia and fear.:eek:

I think you get ill in time, it's not over night. The idea is that microwaves modifies the organic structure of the food when it heats it up, making modifications to the cells of the food that you ingest.

This is similar to the notion of ultra violets, just like when you go sunbathing and sit in the sun the UV impacts your organic material just like microwaves do to your food, you are in fact predisposed to skin cancer from the ultra violets do to cellular modification in your tissue. I won't argue sunbathing poses a greater risk from the two, but they bolth do the same thing, they modify the organic tissue. My opinion is that in time you could get cancer from the microwave oven.

truthseeker512
11-12-2011, 11:55 PM
Why Did Russia Ban The Use Of Microwave Ovens?

http://wakeup-world.com/2011/06/15/why-did-russia-ban-the-use-of-microwave-ovens/

http://wakeup-world.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Microwave-Water-300x200.jpg
Plants grown with microwaved/purified water

In Russia, microwave ovens were banned in 1976 because of their negative health consequences as many studies were conducted on their use. The ban was lifted after Perestroika in the early 90’s.

Here are some of their findings on microwaving food:

1. Microwaved foods lose 60 ~ 90% of the vital-energy field and microwaving accelerates the structural disintegration of foods.

2. Microwaving creates cancer-causing agents within milk and cereals.

3. Microwaving alters elemental food-substances, causing digestive disorders.

4. Microwaving alters food chemistry which can lead to malfunctions in the lymphatic system and degeneration of the body’s ability to protect itself against cancerous growths.

5. Microwaved foods lead to a higher percentage of cancerous cells in the bloodstream.

6. Microwaving altered the breakdown of elemental substances when raw, cooked, or frozen vegetables were exposed for even a very short time and free radicals were formed.

7. Microwaved foods caused stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues, and a gradual breakdown of the digestive and excretive systems in a statistically high percentage of people.

8. Microwaved foods lowered the body’s ability of the body to utilize B-complex vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotropics.

9. The microwave field next to a microwave oven caused a slew of health problems as well.

10. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:

* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere.
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains.

11. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behaviour of glucoside – and galactoside – elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way.

12. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods.

13. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables.

14. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune systems’ capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth.

15. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system.

16. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function.

17. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

Read the full report by Larry Cook entitled “Micro-waved Food Isn’t Safe To Eat” here (http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine/articles/kathy/microwave.html)

neutrino
12-12-2011, 12:03 AM
That's me finished using microwaves.

psilocybin
12-12-2011, 02:20 AM
I threw my microwave out after reading about its dangers in the NWO survival guide, the best site which covers everything about health, NWO and other scams.

dude111
12-12-2011, 08:29 AM
That's me finished using microwaves.I dont really hardily ever use it,i dont feel its safe!!!!

ufochick
12-12-2011, 01:51 PM
Yeah, it makes me cringe when my friend uses it. I remember when my friend threw a get-together with some people, he dethawed frozen chicken in the microwave, which I didn't know about. As we were all eating, I noticed that the chicken fucking sucked. Everyone was commenting on how good it was, which surprised me. Although I do have very high standards for food, and therefore I'm more perceptive, I was still unable to grasp how they didn't notice how funny it was. The texture was off too.

A day later, my face broke out in acne. I'm extremely sensitive to anything that's bad like additives or fake food, but the microwave just does me in. You can show me 100 documents saying microwaves are safe, but my body says differently.

Get a toaster oven.

Also, I said this before, but gas used to cook food makes it toxic. The gas gets me high and I can't sleep at night, and it makes my skin bad. I switched to natural charcoal, and I'm never going back.

And above all, it's extremely easy to eat well, all you have to do is appreciate the basics. There are just so many simple foods out there, like canned beans, real pasta, rice, good meat, fruits, vegetables. Once you go natural, you save money because you only buy what your body needs, and your cart isn't filled to the fucking top like everyone elses.

I can taste a difference too. It's almost like a lack of taste in the food. I literally can't drink tea that has been made by heating the water in a microwave, it's nasty.
I recently bought a high end toaster over (150 $) for our little cottage. It only has propane for the stove and the oven eats fuel and the food tastes bad like propane when I use it.
I love this little oven , it has an infared heater and it bakes things great, even cookies, biscuits et as well as chicken and one dish dinners. I highly suggest getting a good quality toaster over with the convection feature. Convection just means there is a blower to move th heat around.
More and more I see packaged foods that require the use of microwaves to fix. My daughter (she and the grandkids eat with us a LOT, her husband is an over the road truck driver) has finally gotten the point that we don't use the microwave to cook things much. She used to nuke everything.
I think there is a connection to microwaving baby formula and the babies still being hungry after they eat and then becoming fat children. they are eating but not getting any nutrition.

silverwand
12-12-2011, 03:21 PM
I've never liked microwaves. I wouldn't even dream of radiating any of my food in one.

silverwand
12-12-2011, 03:22 PM
That's me finished using microwaves.

Wise man :)

herbes
12-12-2011, 08:03 PM
yea absolutely, the most unnatural way of cooking, have a read through this page
The Proven Dangers of Microwaves
http://www.bariumblues.com/microwave_%20ovens.htm
If you've got one get rid

wowser how can any one use em after reading this lot

jon galt
12-12-2011, 08:26 PM
Microwaving is, technically, a form of food irradiation. I find it interesting that people who say that would never eat “irradiated” food have no hesitation about microwaving their food. It’s the same thing (just a different wavelength of radiation).

All heat is a form of radiation as is all light.

"
Thermal radiation is electromagnetic radiation generated by the thermal motion of charged particles in matter. All matter with a temperature greater than absolute zero emits thermal radiation."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_radiation

So I suppose conventional ovens, halogen light cookers, or all forums of cooking can be seen as irritating food.
Microwave ovens have no radioactive sorce rather the Microwaves are produced in a way similar to radio waves ( another form of radiation, shock) involving electricity ( electromagnetic radiation ,double shock.) And wire coils. if microwaves were leaking from your oven they would boil the water in you skin. When studying electronics the only thing we were told not to atempt to fix were microwave ovens because once removing the protective cover this was a real possiblity
The article in the op should properly explain radiation, but deliberately uses the word for shock effect,

bjornyvan
12-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Most cordless phones work on the same frequency as microwave ovens: 2.4 Ghz.

Wireless routers too, but their radiation is a little bit weaker.

jon galt
12-12-2011, 09:22 PM
Microwaved water kills plants , known hoax

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

bjornyvan
12-12-2011, 09:27 PM
That's not a hoax. Many people have verified this truth. It's common sense too:

Plants crave water. Water has a certain molecular composition. By microwaving the water you change this molecular composition and get something which may look like water, but isn't really water. Same thing with food.

jon galt
12-12-2011, 09:46 PM
That's not a hoax. Many people have verified this truth. It's common sense too:

Plants crave water. Water has a certain molecular composition. By microwaving the water you change this molecular composition and get something which may look like water, but isn't really water. Same thing with food.

The molecular composition of water is h20 , microwaving water does not change this

bjornyvan
12-12-2011, 09:50 PM
Water is much more than simply H2O.

Water is a compound of about 10 different elements in a particular ratio to each other. It also has energetic qualities that contemporary science does not take into account. Ever heard of "fresh water"?

I recommend you to study the work of history's greatest expert on water, Viktor Schauberger.

+ I recommend you to actually do the plant experiment yourself. + maybe drink microwaved water for a few weeks, months, or maybe for the rest of your life.

jon galt
12-12-2011, 09:52 PM
Water is simply h2o, given most water can have other things in it tho

bjornyvan
12-12-2011, 09:58 PM
Yes, wonderful. I suggest that from now on you strap a cellphone tower to your head and live on only microwaved food and water for the rest of your life just to prove your point.

jon galt
12-12-2011, 10:39 PM
Yes, wonderful. I suggest that from now on you strap a cellphone tower to your head and live on only microwaved food and water for the rest of your life just to prove your point.


There are other ways to prove that water is h2o

rbl_4nik8r
13-12-2011, 03:21 AM
Well by Right I should have a few different types of cancer by now, been using them since 1978 now, don't cook everything in them but I do heat leftovers, but been heating coffee up in one for 30+ years so I guess that makes me a walking timebomb Hahaha.

Anyways I just cooked 2 one in a half inch T-bone steaks on the grill tonight along with some twice baked potatoes, and some green beans, and not one thing was cooked in the microwave but I don't have a problem nuking leftovers. I have heard that smoking meats is bad for you to, but I got 30 years of that to and my ribs just melt off the bone.


4nE

dude111
13-12-2011, 05:48 AM
Microwaved water kills plants , known hoax

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.aspFUCK WHAT SNOPES SAYS!!!!

This is run by MSM assholes who only want you thinking WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!! (Its as bad as MSM tv)

terrorworld
14-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Water is not just a composition of hydrogen and oxygen, this is an extremely chemically-materialistic view (what's the number for materialistic: 6 - and 666 is totally materialist - Illuminazi). Fluid water has changing H2O molecular clusters, similar to the crystalline state (tridymite structure, normally). This is the reason, e.g., for the density anomaly of cold water. This structure can obviously be changed into a 'levitated', 'energetized', 'orgonized' state, and I suppose then there are portions with a quartz-like structure.
I think the strongest effect of microwave ovens and cellphone towers is even not the microwaves themselves, but accompanying destructive ultrasonics. As I've studied the technology of cellphone towers some time ago. Positive opposite: orgonite.
By the way: Which molecular oscillations are they exciting with microwaves?
As I can find in my chemistry books that the characteristic oscillations of the H2O molecule itself are lying IN THE INFRARED-SPECTRUM. So, please, why don't they heat it with infrared radiation???
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This forum, like others, is heavily infiltrated with disinfo agents, who are obviously not searching for the truth, but have the goal to mislead. Typically detectable by mainstream-conformist debunking-answers, superficial comments or showing links to MS debunker websites.

allure
15-12-2011, 12:09 AM
Well by Right I should have a few different types of cancer by now, been using them since 1978 now, don't cook everything in them but I do heat leftovers, but been heating coffee up in one for 30+ years so I guess that makes me a walking timebomb Hahaha.

Anyways I just cooked 2 one in a half inch T-bone steaks on the grill tonight along with some twice baked potatoes, and some green beans, and not one thing was cooked in the microwave but I don't have a problem nuking leftovers. I have heard that smoking meats is bad for you to, but I got 30 years of that to and my ribs just melt off the bone.


4nE

It is said that cancer begins growing in the body a decade, sometimes longer, before it becomes apparent.

Just because someone smokes 20 a day for 30 years and appears to be fine doesn't mean they are, and even if they were, that doesn't mean smoking is.