first swine flu case at my sons school!

[omnit]

Now I dont let this shit bother me, but i have an 8 year old at this school and a 2 year old at home!

I dont want to worry, or to worry them, but its a concern now for me.

Now what? wait to see if we get it? take tamiflu or say no?

Ive done my research on this earlier in the year, and i know its normal flu with a mutation (poss from swine flu) that just makes it very contagious. we are all luckily very healthy, so should I worry? should we take our boy out of school for the last week?

I dont know, personally I'm not worried about me, i will be ok either way, but my 8 and 2 year olds? how will they cope?

[lizzy]

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6671

[bane]

I hear you. We have cases at my 8 year old son's school and at my place of work. I have a 3 year old who suffered 2 collapsed lungs a year ago. Now I'm bricking myself.

[omnit]

I hear you. We have cases at my 8 year old son's school and at my place of work. I have a 3 year old who suffered 2 collapsed lungs a year ago. Now I'm bricking myself.

Yeah i can see why people in your position will be even more on edge, I hope all goes well for you and the nippers!

Its very real when it gets this close isnt it.

[omnit]

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6671

erm thanks, I think? not really helping me that though is it?

[lookfar]

I totally understand your concern omnit, it is a worry when it's so close to home. However, I strongly feel that this flu is no worse than normal flu & would highly recommend stocking up on some olive leaf extract if you don't have any. It's antiviral & will help fight/prevent it (& is suitable for children), also vitamin c or Lysine C (which is vit c with an amino acid to help with asorbtion).

Here are a couple of links which you may find useful:

http://www.amazinghealth.co.uk/olive-leaf-extract.htm

http://www.revital.co.uk/Olive_Leaf_Extract

http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=131

Try not to worry too much though as this won't help matters, positive thought is a big factor to staying healthy imo:) You'll all be fine!:D

[bane]

Yeah i can see why people in your position will be even more on edge, I hope all goes well for you and the nippers!

Its very real when it gets this close isnt it.


I'm sure it will. Hope all stays well with you and yours. It's when it affects the kids it's worrying.
Take Care.

[fekdemasons]

Of course could just be normal flu but their not closing schools down anyumore.

WHY ?? Almost like they want it to spread.

I fucking hate this rotten country and all the dumb fucks who cant see through this shit.

Keep saying " Look at the pharma SHARE PRICES !!" Still they dont get it...

[omnit]

Of course could just be normal flu but their not closing schools down anyumore.

WHY ?? Almost like they want it to spread.

I fucking hate this rotten country and all the dumb fucks who cant see through this shit.

Keep saying " Look at the pharma SHARE PRICES !!" Still they dont get it...

I understand you, but its not that they dont get it, its that they cant get it as they dont want to get it, I can also understand them for being like this! once you see it for what it is, its a fucking hard place to be and I was happier when i was still plugged in to be honest!

I can point out all sorts of problems, but I struggle to come up with any alternative ways to live, without a complete colapse of society and as I have kids, I dont want a mad max style world to live, but thats whats needed to change anything.

plug me back in ffs :(

[enga]

Now I dont let this shit bother me, but i have an 8 year old at this school and a 2 year old at home!

I dont want to worry, or to worry them, but its a concern now for me.

Now what? wait to see if we get it? take tamiflu or say no?

Ive done my research on this earlier in the year, and i know its normal flu with a mutation (poss from swine flu) that just makes it very contagious. we are all luckily very healthy, so should I worry? should we take our boy out of school for the last week?

I dont know, personally I'm not worried about me, i will be ok either way, but my 8 and 2 year olds? how will they cope?

Yeah theres a boy and a girl with it at my Sons school too. Since there's only 2 days left of school and the kids are being kept home my Son is still going to school. I think it has been overhyped.

[omnit]

Yeah theres a boy and a girl with it at my Sons school too. Since there's only 2 days left of school and the kids are being kept home my Son is still going to school. I think it has been overhyped.

I hope so, but what if its the opposite?

They want us in school and work etc, if we arent then the system starts to fail!

I really dont know about this!

[citroen999]

had first case at work today.....

should i notify the health and safety people? as our manager has sort of shrugged it off and handed out a leaflet asking us to keep an eye on ourselves

[alpha]

my son is autistic and 12 and his school has sent a letter home saying a boy has got it at his school. my best friends daughters boss has it. a bloke my husband works with told him that he thought he should know that he has it. my sons first concern is that jeremy clarkson might die of it !!! as my son is a major petrolhead. as a family we are taking colloidal silver,echinachea,vitc,andvitd3. no fucking way r we having the vaccine!!

[tom bombadil]

Pig Flu is a virus made in pigs and you cant catch that!

See it this way.

It is not a cold... A cold is a contagious viral disease which infects the soft lining (mucous membrane) of the nose. There are more than 100 different viruses which can result in a cold. The characteristic symptom is a runny nose.

Usually, it is a mild condition, recovery taking place within about a week. However, sometimes the same symptoms occur with other illnesses like influenza.

It is most common during the cold winter months and affects children and adults of all ages. Most people will catch a cold two to four times a year.

virus = ((virology) ultramicroscopic infectious agent that replicates itself only within cells of living hosts; many are pathogenic; a piece of nucleic acid (DNA or RNA) wrapped in a thin coat of protein)

.......or bateria that you can catch.

Its not A disease......a disease or medical condition is an abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions, associated with specific symptoms and signs. It may be caused by external factors, such as invading organisms, or it may be caused by internal dysfunctions, such as autoimmune diseases.

In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes extreme pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.

So what is a virus for real? It is an inert cleaning agent that the host (you or me) makes for itself. We make it when we need to detoxify ourselves. The same with a common cold. We allow the bacteria to do the bussiness on us to clense our selves when the time requires it. The crap that you and I eat and digest everyday is stored in our bodies untill we cant cope anymore and we, us, ourselves will produce a clenser to clean you, the individual, out. We alow it to happen. If the simptoms of a particular virus (there is one type for each of our cell types, so there are simply thousands of possabilities) make you snot into the face of another bloke or through your mouth in a kiss then you will not hand over your virus to another. You just wont. If your virus however gets into the blood of your victim :) then your victim still wont get your problems but might show the same sympoms as your own as your victim now tries to get rid of your clensing agent, not your reason for the clensing agent.

So how do you catch it? It has to go into your blood system. It wont happen if you digest it. At all. We eat crap all day. We would all be dead by now if our bodies could not cope with all that fly shit or bitten lip from your gal in a fun-time situation, or the kiss on the knee of your fallen child.

Think though... there are ways into your blood that is easier for these viruses. Your eyes, a cut or wound, your gums, an infected needle..... So if they get in then there is a chance of you suffering from the virus.

The way that a tiny amount (but ample for the required control) of flouride is put into your bodies blood stream is via the floride in your toothpaste being pushed into the gums and put next to the vessals that are there by your teeth. Direct control from TPTB.

So. How to get swine flu. You cant ingest it. You wont be kissing a sick pig. Or brushing your teeth with NEW IMPROVED PIG-PASTE from Colgate. So the only way for you to get the virus is to have it put into you by someone with a needle.


It is possable (dont know) that a contaminated (on purpose) set of anti-flu jabs had been given the pig virus so that when they started showing symptoms of swine flu it was down to the fact that the pig virus (or bits of pig DNA esentialy) was found in the victims blood and kidneys. Some will die as a result of the virus in the same way that some die from a human flu. And thousands do die from human flu every year. But they are dieing from there own reaction to the pig flu and not as a result of the pig flu having an effect on them like it did the host.




Look now at the facts.

Money to be made in tamiflu supplies.

Some chap was arested with stocks of the virus (at an airport) that just so happened to work for one of the companies that is suplying 60.000 doses of tamiflu to the uk. The virus should not even exist outside a host.!!!

Folk are not dropping like flies.

They soon will. If they take the infected tamifle or other type jab.




Just my two pennith. Nelly.

[golden lady]

Have these cases been actually tested for swine flu or just diagnosed by symptoms over the phone. I bet it's the later, so well maybe 'normal flu'?

[qeutey]

Have these cases been actually tested for swine flu or just diagnosed by symptoms over the phone. I bet it's the later, so well maybe 'normal flu'?

"Normal (seasonal) flu" is practically unheard of at this time of the year.

[nicolaj]

Now I dont let this shit bother me, but i have an 8 year old at this school and a 2 year old at home!

I dont want to worry, or to worry them, but its a concern now for me.

Now what? wait to see if we get it? take tamiflu or say no?

Ive done my research on this earlier in the year, and i know its normal flu with a mutation (poss from swine flu) that just makes it very contagious. we are all luckily very healthy, so should I worry? should we take our boy out of school for the last week?

I dont know, personally I'm not worried about me, i will be ok either way, but my 8 and 2 year olds? how will they cope?

I came down with it 2nd july..doc diagnoised me on the 6th with it. you feel pretty rough with the aching, sweating and shivering and ear ache..I've had worse flu than this before. I'm almost over it now..still don't feel on top form yet.. I was offered tamiflu but refused it. I though my youngest was coming down with it last week..screaming with ear ache and telling me his legs where hurting him..gave him calpol when he felt like than and was running a temp and he went ok. Doctor said to leave him off school, which I did..he wasn't that ill though, so I don't know if he got it or not.

Do what your gut feeling tells you to do..

[thirdwave]

at times like this, just spend a bit more on shopping.. get some decent minerals in.. lots of decent fruit and veg and make sure your kids eat it.... the flu is no worse than many others that have gone past the radar.. just hyped and twisted...

make sure your kids drink lots of water and not coke and stuff.... they probably wont like it but make them..

[darkman]

Pig Flu is a virus made in pigs and you cant catch that!

See it this way.

It is not a cold... A cold is a contagious viral disease which infects the soft lining (mucous membrane) of the nose. There are more than 100 different viruses which can result in a cold. The characteristic symptom is a runny nose.

Usually, it is a mild condition, recovery taking place within about a week. However, sometimes the same symptoms occur with other illnesses like influenza.

It is most common during the cold winter months and affects children and adults of all ages. Most people will catch a cold two to four times a year.

virus = ((virology) ultramicroscopic infectious agent that replicates itself only within cells of living hosts; many are pathogenic; a piece of nucleic acid (DNA or RNA) wrapped in a thin coat of protein)

.......or bateria that you can catch.

Its not A disease......a disease or medical condition is an abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions, associated with specific symptoms and signs. It may be caused by external factors, such as invading organisms, or it may be caused by internal dysfunctions, such as autoimmune diseases.

In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes extreme pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.

So what is a virus for real? It is an inert cleaning agent that the host (you or me) makes for itself. We make it when we need to detoxify ourselves. The same with a common cold. We allow the bacteria to do the bussiness on us to clense our selves when the time requires it. The crap that you and I eat and digest everyday is stored in our bodies untill we cant cope anymore and we, us, ourselves will produce a clenser to clean you, the individual, out. We alow it to happen. If the simptoms of a particular virus (there is one type for each of our cell types, so there are simply thousands of possabilities) make you snot into the face of another bloke or through your mouth in a kiss then you will not hand over your virus to another. You just wont. If your virus however gets into the blood of your victim :) then your victim still wont get your problems but might show the same sympoms as your own as your victim now tries to get rid of your clensing agent, not your reason for the clensing agent.

So how do you catch it? It has to go into your blood system. It wont happen if you digest it. At all. We eat crap all day. We would all be dead by now if our bodies could not cope with all that fly shit or bitten lip from your gal in a fun-time situation, or the kiss on the knee of your fallen child.

Think though... there are ways into your blood that is easier for these viruses. Your eyes, a cut or wound, your gums, an infected needle..... So if they get in then there is a chance of you suffering from the virus.

The way that a tiny amount (but ample for the required control) of flouride is put into your bodies blood stream is via the floride in your toothpaste being pushed into the gums and put next to the vessals that are there by your teeth. Direct control from TPTB.

So. How to get swine flu. You cant ingest it. You wont be kissing a sick pig. Or brushing your teeth with NEW IMPROVED PIG-PASTE from Colgate. So the only way for you to get the virus is to have it put into you by someone with a needle.


It is possable (dont know) that a contaminated (on purpose) set of anti-flu jabs had been given the pig virus so that when they started showing symptoms of swine flu it was down to the fact that the pig virus (or bits of pig DNA esentialy) was found in the victims blood and kidneys. Some will die as a result of the virus in the same way that some die from a human flu. And thousands do die from human flu every year. But they are dieing from there own reaction to the pig flu and not as a result of the pig flu having an effect on them like it did the host.




Look now at the facts.

Money to be made in tamiflu supplies.

Some chap was arested with stocks of the virus (at an airport) that just so happened to work for one of the companies that is suplying 60.000 doses of tamiflu to the uk. The virus should not even exist outside a host.!!!

Folk are not dropping like flies.

They soon will. If they take the infected tamifle or other type jab.




Just my two pennith. Nelly.

well said that man its just the flu you get yearly dam it

[thirdwave]

Some chap was arested with stocks of the virus (at an airport) that just so happened to work for one of the companies that is suplying 60.000 doses of tamiflu to the uk.

shit, really? ... you got any link for this?

[strengthofknowledge]

yea its everywhere...make sure you have good supplies of food, set back from buying useless things and buy more food... and vitamins... 2 cases in a small ass town near me.. im prepared i hope you all are too

[decode reality]

I would say refuse the vaccine and check out some of those health suggestions as a prevention.

Also, I would say gather some strong, compelling information showing this thing to be a hoax and on the dangers of vaccines generally. There may come a time (i.e. if enforced vaccination is literally just around the corner) when those of us who resist this scaremongering are gonna have to speak out. If others don't get it, that's too bad and a real shame....but in that case, we just have to help ourselves until the penny drops with other people.

Best of luck.:)

[tom bombadil]

shit, really? ... you got any link for this?

I know of it and am looking for it again now. It was big news (for some) a few weeks ago.

I thought someone would ask me :rolleyes: now that I dont have it.



Nelly :)

[tom bombadil]

Start at the bottom. I made an error.

Look here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc

And here... http://www.naturalnews.com/026526_health_influenza_vaccines.html

Here... http://www.infowars.com/innoculations-the-true-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

There... http://rense.com/general86/legl.htm

and everywhere... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNS0Q-uxycA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0SHFEgGo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fcontent%2Fbl ogcategory%2F30%2F82%2F100%2F200%2F&feature=player_embedded


This is the one though... http://preventdisease.com/news/09/031109_baxter.shtml You will see that It was not the swine flu. It was the bird flu type. I must have miss read something similer recently. I could have sworn... Thanks for making me double check.

http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1321609

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FGVIij3sU&feature=related



Nelly.

[thirdwave]

You can see how the PTB are doing there magic with all this..

the very fact people are so worried about it is what they want.... think of the energy created by all those people going into work with that extra worry in their conciousness..

I think the reality is, is that there are no more people dyeing of flu this year than there was last year.

and just because they have named one of them and it is now a famous word and we can say "wow John has swine flu" ... it is made to be different...

[thirdwave]

Start at the bottom. I made an error.

Look here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc

And here... http://www.naturalnews.com/026526_health_influenza_vaccines.html

Here... http://www.infowars.com/innoculations-the-true-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

There... http://rense.com/general86/legl.htm

and everywhere... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNS0Q-uxycA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0SHFEgGo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fcontent%2Fbl ogcategory%2F30%2F82%2F100%2F200%2F&feature=player_embedded


This is the one though... http://preventdisease.com/news/09/031109_baxter.shtml You will see that It was not the swine flu. It was the bird flu type. I must have miss read something similer recently. I could have sworn... Thanks for making me double check.

http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1321609

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FGVIij3sU&feature=related



Nelly.

thanks...

[swirly]

hello, i work within a childcare setting and we have just had our first case in the baby room...all the staff are panicking and i seem to be the only sane one in the place!!!!i cant talk openly about my views with regards to the evil system running the world but would like to help people to understand that THEY MUST NOT GIVE THEIR CHILDREN THE VACCINE! i want to do this in a positive way and not promote too much fear so was wandering if anyone new of a leaflet or letter i could print out or copy which contains concise and valid information on why not to take the jabs and how to support your imune system naturally etc

this info would be greatly appreciated if anyone can help

xxx

[thirdwave]

hello, i work within a childcare setting and we have just had our first case in the baby room...all the staff are panicking and i seem to be the only sane one in the place!!!!i cant talk openly about my views with regards to the evil system running the world but would like to help people to understand that THEY MUST NOT GIVE THEIR CHILDREN THE VACCINE! i want to do this in a positive way and not promote too much fear so was wandering if anyone new of a leaflet or letter i could print out or copy which contains concise and valid information on why not to take the jabs and how to support your imune system naturally etc

this info would be greatly appreciated if anyone can help

xxx


its a good idea, and maybe a good thing to create...

[resistance]

If I was a parent I think that I would be more concerned about what my children are learning, or not learning to be more precise, in schools, rather than a media over hyped virus, which is less severe than common flu.
The real virus is being downloaded into your childrens brains, it's called state sponsored education/indoctrination.

[tom bombadil]

hello, i work within a childcare setting and we have just had our first case in the baby room...all the staff are panicking and i seem to be the only sane one in the place!!!!i cant talk openly about my views with regards to the evil system running the world but would like to help people to understand that THEY MUST NOT GIVE THEIR CHILDREN THE VACCINE! i want to do this in a positive way and not promote too much fear so was wandering if anyone new of a leaflet or letter i could print out or copy which contains concise and valid information on why not to take the jabs and how to support your imune system naturally etc

this info would be greatly appreciated if anyone can help

xxx

It is a good idea. But do try not to hide from your views as you may have to stand by them when questioned about the leaflet content. I am not trying to put you off but also remember that some folk will go out of their way to discredit you. So get the facts straight. And dont be diverted from your original point.

You could get someone to help by organising a leaflet handout outside your work place. Something small. Play the uninformed recipitant and ask loud questions. Tell others that you will look into this at home, and take a mate from work with you. Together you will trawl the web. Dont go to you tube sites. Go to reports and the like. Send the mate home with a spinnng head......This is all deception of course, Stand by your convictions. :) By hook or by crook, get the info to them.


Nelly.

I think parents should be more concerned about what their children are learning, or not learning to be more precise, in schools, rather than a media over hyped virus, which is less severe than common flu.
The real killer virus is being downloaded into your childrens brains, it's called state sponsored education/indoctrination.

Agreed. But one topic at a time. This might be the straw that breaks my back and I decide to bring the kids out of school.


Nelly.

[jaggysnake]

I totally understand your concern omnit, it is a worry when it's so close to home. However, I strongly feel that this flu is no worse than normal flu & would highly recommend stocking up on some olive leaf extract if you don't have any. It's antiviral & will help fight/prevent it (& is suitable for children), also vitamin c or Lysine C (which is vit c with an amino acid to help with asorbtion).

Here are a couple of links which you may find useful:

http://www.amazinghealth.co.uk/olive-leaf-extract.htm

http://www.revital.co.uk/Olive_Leaf_Extract

http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=131

Try not to worry too much though as this won't help matters, positive thought is a big factor to staying healthy imo:) You'll all be fine!:D

are you insane!!! take the tamiflu, olive leaf extract isn't going to save your life

[resistance]

are you insane!!! take the tamiflu, olive leaf extract isn't going to save your life

Save our lives from what precisely? I don't see anybody around me dropping dead, neither will there ever be...Maybe from dodgy Celvapan given to us from that lovely company Baxter, but not from pigy flu. The fact that the vaccine is being fast tracked without any real tests or research should have alarm bells ringing in everybody.

[lookfar]

are you insane!!! take the tamiflu, olive leaf extract isn't going to save your life

No I'm not insane, are you?:) The tamiflu vaccine is definitely not gonna save your life either so I know which option I'll be choosing!

[bettyboo]

One of the sad truths about post modern society is that everything is triaged to the hilt. This is the result of a hyped need to become more “competitive” as the corporations systematically offshore middle income jobs to low-income countries. But it’s also just a fashion system — which pomos take very seriously.

So the risk that people will forget about the Swine Flu Scam until Big Pharma and Big Government spring their next version on us, this time with a “vaccine” ready to fly off the shelves, is very very high.

It does rather look like Big Pharma, Big Media and Big Government are going to do this — in the fall — after they’ve quietly passed laws mandating vaccinations for everyone over the age of 3 months.

Engdahl reports that a law dictating mandatory vaccines has already been put in place in Massachusetts (I couldn’t find a second source on the web) and France is getting ready to follow suit.

Here are the facts. Memorize them. Repeat them. Be ready.

1. No one has isolated the virus to photograph it.

2. There is no proven test for the virus.

3. 36,000 people die of flu-related complications, every year, in the United States alone.

4. Most of the globally reported 15,000 cases of “Swine Flu” recovered within a week to 10 days.

Know your facts cold, before mandatory vaccinations try to come to your town.

To date neither the WHO nor the US Government’s Center for Diseases Control (CDC) have succeeded to isolate, photograph with an electron microscope and chemically classify the H1N1 Influenza A virus.

Even more bizarre is the admission by the US Government’s Food & Drug Administration, an agency responsible for health and safety of its citizens, that the ‘test’ approved for premature release to test for H1N1 is not even a proven test.

More to the point, there is no forensic evidence in any of the deaths reported to date that has been presented that proves scientifically that any single death being attributed to H1N1 Swine Flu virus was indeed caused by such a virus.

What we know conclusively is that the people who died often had prior respiratory complications of an undisclosed nature. People die every day with respiratory diseases. In the USA alone some 36,000 flu-related deaths are recorded yearly.

Also worth noting is that in the counting of the more than 15,000 ‘confirmed’ H1N1 Swine Flu cases worldwide the vast majority made miraculous recovery within three to seven days.

http://gnn.tv/headlines/20548/Getting_the_Swine_Flu_Virus_Straight


My own view is that it is clear to me that many thousands of people with nothing more than the common cold or flu are being told they have swine flu when that can not possibly be determined if there is indeed no proven test for the virus or that they have even been tested at all. It's a scam.

[enga]

I hope so, but what if its the opposite?

They want us in school and work etc, if we arent then the system starts to fail!

I really dont know about this!

I read what you said above last night and thought much the same as I previously thought. I still think there is no real harm but what you said made me think 'why risk it'. I let my Son stay home today and he will stay home tomorrow as well..then he is on holiday anyway. He had no complaints I can tell you!!

[drhemp]

are you insane!!! take the tamiflu, olive leaf extract isn't going to save your life

What? Haven't you read the vast amount of information there is about Tamiflu on this web site?

Tamiflu will weaken your immune system. One of the people behind Tamiflu is none other than Donald Rumsfeld (also behind aspartame and a key architect of the War on Terror).

They are pushing Tamiflu to make Big Pharma lots of money and then even more money as people take more drugs because they get more ill as a result of impaired immune system from taking Tamiflu.

After reading the info about Tamiflu on this web site and other sites linked to I'd suggest you'd have to be insane to take Tamiflu.

[lookfar]

I had a letter from my sons school today, they have their first case too. One of the mums said her friends son had it last week & was a bit poorly but is over it now, just like normal flu.

It's being hyped upto the hilt to promote the vaccine.