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blindspot
04-08-2007, 05:23 PM
From what I have found about the freemasons I think there are two separate groups (Orders)

The reason I think this is because Hitler hated the freemasons and sent them to the gas chambers with the Jews homosexuals Etc…. Hitler hunted them down as much as any Jew or Etc.
He even made plans to high light the grand lodge of England on the “operation sea loin” So he could get the members lists and round them up and kill them.

The thing that made me confused is the fact that the Nazi regalia is Masonic? Confused?! (Iam!!)

See the all seeing eye on Hitler’s Hat, in the middle. This is a Masonic symbol for god

http://www.leninimports.com/adolf_hitler_biography_4.jpg
(Hitler)
http://templumsion.com/images/all_seeing_eye_rays.jpg
(Masonic all seeing eye)

http://yooha.meepzorp.com/der-feurher/index_files/der-feurher.jpg
http://www.churchph.com/firstimpressions/images/first_impressions_wave.jpg
(The Freemason Salute)

http://indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/may2006/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_nazipriestssalutehitler.jpg
(The Nazi salute)

http://www.holokausztmagyarorszagon.hu/images/portraits/himmler.jpg
(The skull and bones on Himmler’s hat is a Masonic symbol)

http://www.gaiaguys.net/masonicapron.jpg
(Skull and bones Masonic symbol)


I have come to think that there are two different Masonic orders in this world Good and Bad maybe Black and white.

Could there be an on going secret battle between good freemasons and bad freemasons good against evil? Were the freemasons that got sent to the gas chambers the good freemasons and the Nazi machine part of the bad ones?
Are our local freemasons the only reason the The N.W.O do not show them selves?
And remain hidden.

I think our local freemasons are our protectors against the Evil ones.

Can any one add anything from Icke to help this?

"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth".
Adolf Hitler

eternal_spirit
04-08-2007, 07:52 PM
Interesting. One story is this........In Public to make out he was against masons and secret societies in general, he killed off some Masons as you've described in the post above.

While in reality some of the Elite Lodges of higher Masonry, would work from behind the scenes working for both sides during the war. Rothschilds Zionist bankers funded both sides Nazi's and those they fought.

Hitler wanted to take all the occult knowledge from masons and other secret orders, mystery schools and hoard this knowledge for himself, so other wouldn't use it against him.

tinmenace
04-08-2007, 09:52 PM
The Scottish Rite Freemasons are a bit different to other Freemasons, but it boils down to the same thing. The lower ranking Freemasons are simply an energy source for the higher ranking sorcerers. That's the beginning and the end of it.

The guys at the bottom are working hard to be good people, and to do good deeds, and provide a wonderful cover for the guys at that top that are manipulating events and suffering around the world.

singularities
04-08-2007, 10:32 PM
Quite right Tin Menace : that's the point of the 'Round Table', 'Lions Club' (although the name LION should be a BIG clue to anyone looking for manipulation) and ALL the other 'fronts' which invite good, whole people to express themselves in good works - all the strands are controlled from the perverted epicentre of all the rings and sections in the circle - the skull and crossbones and the most evil, perverted, pernicious and devious minds that a Satanic mind could ever have thought up. But the 'good people' operating everywhere except the Zionist-Illuminati centre can't see or hear or even perceive the Mutant Kontrollers pulling their strings. They are so evil that they need to hide behind those with symbolism and goodness to hide their deviousness and perverted brains - and get off on the symbolism of gnosticism and those with symbolism, whether they know about it or not.
And if you know anything about alchemy you'll know what sort of a future the entire human race can look forward to, if they're not Jewish or have loadsa money.
There's no such thing as good and evil freemasons, or good and evil people anymore - only those who know what's going on and those who don't. And it's about knowing EXACTLY who's on which side. There is only ONE agenda - it's just a question of whether we individually are advancing it or fighting it.

blindspot
05-08-2007, 02:02 AM
Interesting. One story is this........In Public to make out he was against masons and secret societies in general, he killed off some Masons as you've described in the post above.

While in reality some of the Elite Lodges of higher Masonry, would work from behind the scenes working for both sides during the war. Rothschilds Zionist bankers funded both sides Nazi's and those they fought.

Hitler wanted to take all the occult knowledge from masons and other secret orders, mystery schools and hoard this knowledge for himself, so other wouldn't use it against him.

I don't mean to sound nasty. but I Hitler killed 1000's of Freemasons and planned to kill them all.

Hitler didn't care for "The holy Grail" and such like, that was others in the Nazi machine.
Hitler hated the idea of wasting time looking for mistic objects.

Hitller didn't care for the secrets of Freemasory.(I know as fact)

Thank you

Rita x

blindspot
05-08-2007, 02:13 AM
The Scottish Rite Freemasons are a bit different to other Freemasons, but it boils down to the same thing. The lower ranking Freemasons are simply an energy source for the higher ranking sorcerers. That's the beginning and the end of it.

The guys at the bottom are working hard to be good people, and to do good deeds, and provide a wonderful cover for the guys at that top that are manipulating events and suffering around the world.









Sorry but your post is very wrong to me as you think its right, with respect to you.

"The Scottish Rite Freemasons are a bit different to other Freemasons"

The Scottish rite is just a side Degree? Is it not?


I find from your threads that you are a freemason hater?! So this could really mess up your ideas and twist the truth for you?

Take a step back, take in what I said.

Rita --

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 02:26 AM
Sorry but your post is very wrong to me as you think its right, with respect to you.

"The Scottish Rite Freemasons are a bit different to other Freemasons"

The Scottish rite is just a side Degree? Is it not?


I find from your threads that you are a freemason hater?! So this could really mess up your ideas and twist the truth for you?

Take a step back, take in what I said.

Rita --


Freemason hater? Your opinion of me is none of my business....think whatever you want.

I just find it interesting that someone whose very first thread on this forum is about Freemasons and Hitler, and whose signature is apparently a quote from Hitler, calls me a hater. :rolleyes:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/blindspot.jpg

So, say....which of David's books have you read?

warrior
05-08-2007, 02:34 AM
Freemason hater? Your opinion of me is none of my business....think whatever you want.

I just find it interesting that someone whose very first thread on this forum is about Freemasons and Hitler, and whose signature is apparently a quote from Hitler, calls me a hater. :rolleyes:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/blindspot.jpg



thanks for that useless contribution to education

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 02:41 AM
thanks for that useless contribution to education

You're welcome. Any time. ;) Haven't heard your input yet.

blindspot
05-08-2007, 02:50 AM
You're welcome. Any time. ;) Haven't heard your input yet.



P.A.J.S

When I done my Masters in history I made the point of interviewing a lot of Nazi German officers and EX military from the local register as I could to get a fair Idea of there ways(For Me)
All I found after a year of listening to stories of the war, some good some bad, is just people living and doing there job.
Even my Grandmother just did her job.

But one day some old SS officer called Hirumer (I think?)said, I quote: “P A J S !”
Whats this I asked?

He said, : “People are just stupid”.

I quote Hitler and know more about him than any one on this web site because I am interested in it.

Apologise to me for that comment as it’s just a low blow, I am not a racist, just a strong historian.

P A J S

Rita -x


Remember P A J S

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 02:57 AM
Masters in history. Nice to be proud of that. But for me, all it says that is that you are successful in the matrix, in THEIR version of history. I wonder how much digging you've done past the approved curriculum that earned you that degree....

I won't argue any further. We have different opinions and different paths, and that's just the way it is.

Good luck to ya.

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:05 AM
Masters in history. Nice to be proud of that. But for me, all it says that is that you are successful in the matrix, in THEIR version of history. I wonder how much digging you've done past the approved curriculum that earned you that degree....

I won't argue any further. We have different opinions and different paths, and that's just the way it is.

Good luck to ya.





OK your right but as the the Matrix is not going to change soon, I have done very well!!

When it does let me know, PAJS

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:06 AM
I don't mean to sound nasty. but I Hitler killed 1000's of Freemasons and planned to kill them all.

Hitler didn't care for "The holy Grail" and such like, that was others in the Nazi machine.
Hitler hated the idea of wasting time looking for mistic objects.

Hitller didn't care for the secrets of Freemasory.(I know as fact)

Thank you

Rita x

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Lol nothing nasty :) Don't take all of what's passed off as the official version that's written in the History books. Some is true, some is false.

One of the first things Hitler would do when invading a major City, was to raid the Museums, he had an obsession with ancient artifacts.
The spear of destiny was a much sought after item. This spear was said to have been the spear that pierced the side of Christ while on the Cross at the Crucifixion. Legend has it that who ever decodes the mystery of the spear has the power to rule over the world. He also had a thing for Egyptian relics.

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:09 AM
The Thule society was the true force behind Hitler some say, which connected to other secret Masonic lodges - Ordo Templi Orientis ( OTO ) I'll have to check my books can't spell the German names lol.
I'll get back to this thread later. :D

nickatnoon61
05-08-2007, 03:09 AM
Masters in history. Nice to be proud of that. But for me, all it says that is that you are successful in the matrix, in THEIR version of history. I wonder how much digging you've done past the approved curriculum that earned you that degree....

I won't argue any further. We have different opinions and different paths, and that's just the way it is.

Good luck to ya.







Yes TinLady,I am still trying to forget everything I learned, in "school"! Did you know it is a crime to question the official version of the "Hollowcaust"! Just ask Ernst Zundel, who spent 3 yrs. in a Canadian jail, but was never charged with anything! I am half German, and I find it offensive, that the Zionists created the Holocaust Industry, and villified the German people to the rest of the world! The Royal Family(Windsors) are also German/Reppies,:eek: according to Icke's books.

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 03:12 AM
OK your right but as the the Matrix is not going to change soon, I have done very well!!

The Matrix has you...

When it does let me know, PAJS

It's changing right now. There, I've just let you know. :)



Have you read any of David's books?

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 03:14 AM
Yes TinLady,I am still trying to forget everything I learned, in "school"! Did you know it is a crime to question the official version of the "Hollowcaust"! Just ask Ernst Zundel, who spent 3 yrs. in a Canadian jail, but was never charged with anything! I am half German, and I find it offensive, that the Zionists created the Holocaust Industry, and villified the German people to the rest of the world! The Royal Family(Windsors) are also German/Reppies,:eek: according to Icke's books.

Hey Nicks :)

Yes, to be truly free, we have to unsubscribe from the indoctrination.

Yep, vilify opposite sides is a typical loomie "divide and conquer" tactic.

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:15 AM
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Lol nothing nasty :) Don't take all of what's passed off as the official version that's written in the History books. Some is true, some is false.

One of the first things Hitler would do when invading a major City, was to raid the Museums, he had an obsession with ancient artifacts.
The spear of destiny was a much sought after item. This spear was said to have been the spear that pierced the side of Christ while on the Cross at the Crucifixion. Legend has it that who ever decodes the mystery of the spear has the power to rule over the world. He also had a thing for Egyptian relics.

I know more about Hitler, than you know about your Mum!!

Read what you have quoted again!!

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:17 AM
Have you read any of David's books?





Please you seem very silly, please do not waste our time with your silly trys to craw back!

Thanks

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:20 AM
Please this is going now where please stop with silly posts!!

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:22 AM
I know more about Hitler, than you know about your Mum!!

Read what you have quoted again!!
............

You heard of Indiana Jones and his films?

There is much truth in so called fictional movies, hard to believe for some but true.
Clue-Wonder where they got the idea for these films.

BTW the Holy grail isn't a physical thing that Jesus drank from at the last supper. The Spear of Destiny might not be either( although there is an actual spear that was stolen from Vienna museum I think by Hitler but it's a mystery where it is today I'm not stating this was the spear that was used on Christ that's doubtfull). The Nazi Elite and the whole movement was governed by black occult magick according to many researchers, Aleister Crowley,an Englshman who some say was close to Churchill see the Elite are on the same side, they put the masses of two countrys to war, see they don't care about the common people. Anway Crowley was Head of the German OTO Lodge.( Masons)

BTW are you m3 in disguise?

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 03:24 AM
Please you seem very silly, please do not waste our time with your silly trys to craw back!

Thanks

I'll take that as firm NO, that you have not read his books.

They're really good. You can find them HERE (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php)

nickatnoon61
05-08-2007, 03:29 AM
[QUOTE=tinmenace;90795]
I'll take that as firm NO, that you have not read his books.

They're really good. You can find them HERE (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php)[/


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Blindspot, I know a thing or 2 about soup. MORE THAN YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAD!!!:eek: I AM THE SOUP NAZI!!!:eek:

tinmenace
05-08-2007, 03:30 AM
Blindspot, I know a thing or 2 about soup. MORE THAN YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAD!!!:eek: I AM THE SOUP NAZI!!!:eek:

http://www.geocities.com/themole7/m-ani.gif

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:32 AM
Hitler was a puppet he was controlled by other who knew the real plan. he may even of been mind controlled only to play his part in a bigger more secret game.

nickatnoon61
05-08-2007, 03:32 AM
http://www.geocities.com/themole7/m-ani.gif


LMAOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF:D:D:D

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:35 AM
Sorry my first post, i am not a Nazi and this is going no where:

Hello my name is Rita I live in Germany and I do have a sense of humour!! I come across a article about David Icke in a local paper and found his Ideas different to any thing I have ever come across.

I do not know much about David Icke but that’s why I am here, to learn.

I work in the History department in Berlin and have more of an interest for world war II as my family were very close to Hitler and my Grandmother (who I am named after) spent the last part of the war with Hitler in the bunker.

I hope I can put in as much as I hope to take from this forum.

If there is any questions you would like to ask me about my families history please go a head.

Or just world war II to…..

Rita x

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:37 AM
............

You heard of Indiana Jones and his films?

There is much truth in so called fictional movies, hard to believe for some but true.
Clue-Wonder where they got the idea for these films.

BTW the Holy grail isn't a physical thing that Jesus drank from at the last supper. The Spear of Destiny might not be either( although there is an actual spear that was stolen from Vienna museum I think by Hitler but it's a mystery where it is today I'm not stating this was the spear that was used on Christ that's doubtfull). The Nazi Elite and the whole movement was governed by black occult magick according to many researchers, Aleister Crowley,an Englshman who some say was close to Churchill see the Elite are on the same side, they put the masses of two countrys to war, see they don't care about the common people. Anway Crowley was Head of the German OTO Lodge.( Masons)

BTW are you m3 in disguise?


Uhh? Sorry you have lost me, Undo?

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:41 AM
Uhh? Sorry you have lost me, Undo?
.............

I know my stuff ;) Do you're research.

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:42 AM
Uhh? Sorry you have lost me, Undo?
Which bit don't you understand?

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:46 AM
Which bit don't you understand?

Oh you little monkey!!!

Read what I posted:

Hello my name is Rita I live in Germany and I do have a sense of humour!! I come across a article about David Icke in a local paper and found his Ideas different to any thing I have ever come across.

I do not know much about David Icke but that’s why I am here, to learn.

I work in the History department in Berlin and have more of an interest for world war II as my family were very close to Hitler and my Grandmother (who I am named after) spent the last part of the war with Hitler in the bunker.

I hope I can put in as much as I hope to take from this forum.

If there is any questions you would like to ask me about my families history please go a head.

Or just world war II to…..

Rita x

So what has that quote got to say you little monkey!!!

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 03:55 AM
Oh you little monkey!!!

Read what I posted:



So what has that quote got to say you little monkey!!!
....................


:D You asked about Hitler an masons what I've posted is relevant. You'll have to be specific with you're questions. Some of this info is hard to understand, unless you have heard of different versions from the official version. I'm giving you an alternative explanation.

blindspot
05-08-2007, 03:58 AM
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:D You asked about Hitler an masons what I've posted is relevant. You'll have to be specific with you're questions. Some of this info is hard to understand, unless you have heard of different versions from the official version. I'm giving you an alternative explanation.

Thank you my angel, now I see what you mean!!

Message me if you want, as I am a bout to go bed!!


Love you, with hugs

Rita xx

archangel
05-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Hitler was against the Illuminati, and Free masons.

He did not like how they were secretly trying to enslave the mankind nor did he like how they tried to suppress the occult histories and knowledge of the world in order to further their agenda.

He wanted to free the world from the evils of the Illuminati.

He was trying to save the world.

Watch this video on the Thule society. There are 8 parts to it.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

nickatnoon61
05-08-2007, 08:17 AM
Hitler was against the Illuminati, and Free masons.

He did not like how they were secretly trying to enslave the mankind nor did he like how they tried to suppress the occult histories and knowledge of the world in order to further their agenda.

He wanted to free the world from the evils of the Illuminati.

He was trying to save the world.

Watch this video on the Thule society. There are 8 parts to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHrwbJG8kU


Why do people fear those who debate the "Holocaust"?

Source: American Chronicle

By Ian Brockwell, June 18, 2007

It is perhaps human nature for some of us to question historic events, this might simply be because it is an interesting subject to discuss, or because some of the facts do not appear to add up.

Take the JFK assassination for example, could one lone shooter really have done it? We are asked to believe the government's version of events, but they won't release records that could prove it. What do they have to hide?

Many believe the 9/11 'attack' was an inside job, and there is certainly evidence to suggest that the official explanation is questionable. But once again, information is withheld and there is surprise when people become suspicious.

Religion is also a topic that always attracts heated discussion, as people argue about their faith.

There are of course many other examples that could be presented, and whilst questioning the aforementioned subjects might upset some, the important thing is that you can! And by allowing such debates to take place, it is possible for both sides to state their case (as they would in a court of law).

Unfortunately, some feel that the 'Holocaust' is a special subject that can not be debated in any shape or form, and should be accepted without question. Surely, if people have doubts, isn't it better to discuss these openly and try to convince them with the facts, rather than gag them? If something happened in a certain way, why be afraid of doubters if the truth is on your side?

However, as many are already aware, to deny that the 'Holocaust' ever existed can result in a prison sentence, and some are sitting in prison right now for doing just that. If these same people had stated that the WTC was not destroyed by Islamic terrorists, they would be walking around free. Is this not a denial of the historical 'facts' as well, which involved the deaths of a large number of people?

In many cases it is not the 'Holocaust' that is in question, but the numbers involved. Some believe that the total of 6 million is not accurate and there appears to be some evidence to support this.

Some may argue that the numbers are not that important, and the extermination of 200,000 Jews would be just as horrific as 6 million. Whilst I agree that both would be equally terrible, is it so wrong for people to seek confirmation of this figure, in order to eliminate any doubts they may have?

We are told that by keeping the "Holocaust" memories alive we are helping to prevent a repetition of this in the future, but has it? Has mankind really behaved any better since this event? If it doesn't reduce the killing or "ethnic cleansing" we constantly hear about on the news, why do we support it so strongly, and who does it serve?

Would it not be better to target those who are really responsible for these crimes (governments, certain businessmen and dictators), rather than throw members of the public into prison, or brand them as anti-Semitic, because they dared to ask questions?

If reminders of the past do not prevent the horrors of the future, we should look for an alternative way of achieving this. Perhaps, after more than 60 years, the 'Holocaust' should be allowed to take its place in the history books, along with other such tragic events. The Russian's lost many more millions during the Second World War, but they have learnt to live with their losses and move on. Sadly, we can not turn the clock back.

This does not mean forgetting the past and pretending it never happened, but accepting that it did and that those responsible are longer around or have been brought to justice. Punishing future generations for an event they had no hand in is not the way to move forward, and will only create more hatred and new problems.

I once asked the question why a new 'Holocaust' memorial in Germany only remembered the Jews that were killed, and not the "other" 5 million who shared the same fate. The reply I was given was "They can build their own memorial if they want to". Perhaps others would have responded differently, but this person gave me the impression that the memorial was for the sole benefit of Jews and not a reminder to the rest of the world that a "Holocaust" is wrong no matter who the victims are. I was of course immediately branded an anti-Semitic for bringing up the subject, but the question remains. Are 'Holocaust' reminders designed to help protect all races and religions from such an event, or not?

Censoring people's thoughts does not make them go away, they just resurface later, much stronger and often more violently than before. Let the people have their say and try to win the battles with words, not censorship, accusations or prison sentences.

This article was written in response to a story called "Switzerland Offered To Host Holocaust Deniers' Conference".



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eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 05:32 PM
The Vril Society
By Theo Paijmans

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1931882533.01._AA_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931882533/ref=nosim/clavicula) After decades of painstaking research, this book unveils the darkest history of a secret Nazi occult order. The Vril Society counted among their minions the black adepts Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler. More than any other secret society or occult order, the Vril Society influenced the history of the world. The godmen of the Vril Society sought to rule a world where enslaved subhumans would toil beneath the purple flames of the black sun and serve the arcane purposes of a master race. From the stupendous Atlantis technologies to the most secret occult rituals, theirs was the universe to conquer and subjugate

celtic isis
05-08-2007, 08:32 PM
The Scottish Rite Freemasons are a bit different to other Freemasons, but it boils down to the same thing. The lower ranking Freemasons are simply an energy source for the higher ranking sorcerers. That's the beginning and the end of it.

The guys at the bottom are working hard to be good people, and to do good deeds, and provide a wonderful cover for the guys at that top that are manipulating events and suffering around the world.







haha you half admitted it there tin!

hey blindspot :)

and welcome aboard!

fantastic post and very interesting it is too...i actually have a book on the occult and hitler/nazi movement and if someone could tell me how to upload it i will. It might be of help.

There IS a type of battle as you said going on within freemasonry...some people are just there for power and that's it, whereas the others are there to learn the knowledge and apply it in their lives, and i see it myself, take it into society to try and make things better...of course this is most likely just to keep the lower level masons happily thinking thaey're changing society and making a difference when all the while the ones at the top are just using them as pawns, just like the rest of us who aren't freemasons.

Either way, being a freemason, if you're smart about it, you don't help to keep the network in place, really, it isn't as clear cut as that. When i know more i will elaborate more.

And what was freemasonry? It was just a craft, through their craft the early stonemasons who later became freemasons, they studied and became masters of the esoteric knowledge, sacred geometry etc and applied it to architecture to build the cathedrals etc all around the world. By travelling all around the world as they did this knowledge was spread between the fellow workers, which is why we have similar architecture and even the pyramids in all different parts of the world. They believed they coul apply these tools of knowledge to their lives and therefore to society as a whole and thus became the free masonic movement type thing :D

The all seeing eye in the pyramid is not purely masonic as such...it's esoteric and i'm sure it was used before the masons got hold of it...in fact, it was found on some either cave paintings or carved into some stones around the time of the first settlers in america i think it was...or at least something to that effect! :o

i'll see if i can find the video clip of it...

have you seen this symbol? It's remarkably "masonic" also...

(hang on i have to go get it!)

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/22018/2005856041095939091_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005856041095939091)

The symbol found at the "recently" discovered family tomb of jesus...

eternal_spirit
05-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Good post :D celtic. I think Icke says that the ancient mystery schools of Babylon,Sumer, Egypt and greece maybe hijacked Masonry as a way of keeping their knowledge and passing it's secrets through many different levels of secret societies.

blindspot
06-08-2007, 12:15 AM
haha you half admitted it there tin!

hey blindspot :)

and welcome aboard!

fantastic post and very interesting it is too...i actually have a book on the occult and hitler/nazi movement and if someone could tell me how to upload it i will. It might be of help.

There IS a type of battle as you said going on within freemasonry...some people are just there for power and that's it, whereas the others are there to learn the knowledge and apply it in their lives, and i see it myself, take it into society to try and make things better...of course this is most likely just to keep the lower level masons happily thinking thaey're changing society and making a difference when all the while the ones at the top are just using them as pawns, just like the rest of us who aren't freemasons.

Either way, being a freemason, if you're smart about it, you don't help to keep the network in place, really, it isn't as clear cut as that. When i know more i will elaborate more.

And what was freemasonry? It was just a craft, through their craft the early stonemasons who later became freemasons, they studied and became masters of the esoteric knowledge, sacred geometry etc and applied it to architecture to build the cathedrals etc all around the world. By travelling all around the world as they did this knowledge was spread between the fellow workers, which is why we have similar architecture and even the pyramids in all different parts of the world. They believed they coul apply these tools of knowledge to their lives and therefore to society as a whole and thus became the free masonic movement type thing :D

The all seeing eye in the pyramid is not purely masonic as such...it's esoteric and i'm sure it was used before the masons got hold of it...in fact, it was found on some either cave paintings or carved into some stones around the time of the first settlers in america i think it was...or at least something to that effect! :o

i'll see if i can find the video clip of it...

have you seen this symbol? It's remarkably "masonic" also...

(hang on i have to go get it!)

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/22018/2005856041095939091_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005856041095939091)

The symbol found at the "recently" discovered family tomb of jesus...

Yeah tin has it, P A J S.

Loves your post

celtic isis x

Rita x

tinmenace
06-08-2007, 12:16 AM
haha you half admitted it there tin!



haha, I've said it before, but you were paying only half attention.;)

blindspot
06-08-2007, 12:23 AM
haha, I've said it before, but you were paying only half attention.;)

Tin if you think you know it all what is this thread missing? "KT Cross?"
What is it like in the Nazi medals?

X

tinmenace
06-08-2007, 12:39 AM
Tin if you think you know it all what is this thread missing? "KT Cross?"
What is it like in the Nazi medals?

X

Hi Blindspot,

I'm sorry, I didn't say I knew it all. I have my opinions based on my research, and that's it. But, you want to know what I really think about your initial post? Ok, I don't see the all-seeing-eye on his hat....sorry. Maybe it's just the quality of the photo.

Also, why didn't you use a picture of an actual Freemason waving? This guy in the picture is just someone waving on the side of the road. Do you see where I'm having problems with this....?

You haven't provided any references for your info in your first post. And you expect me to take you perfectly seriously?

So, I just took your post with a pinch of salt... but I can see you want to be confrontational about it, so I thought it was time to point out what I look for in a post before taking it seriously (for the most part).

Now you know :)

I really thought that someone as highly "educated" as yourself would know that when you offer information, other than speculation or opinion, you post a reference so that people can verify it or do further research for themselves.

blindspot
06-08-2007, 12:46 AM
Hi Blindspot,

I'm sorry, I didn't say I knew it all. I have my opinions based on my research, and that's it. But, you want to know what I really think about your initial post? Ok, I don't see the all-seeing-eye on his hat....sorry. Maybe it's just the quality of the photo.

Also, why didn't you use a picture of an actual Freemason waving? This guy in the picture is just someone waving on the side of the road. Do you see where I'm having problems with this....?

You haven't provided any references for your info in your first post. And you expect me to take you perfectly seriously?

So, I just took your post with a pinch of salt... but I can see you want to be confrontational about it, so I thought it was time to point out what I look for in a post before taking it seriously (for the most part).

Now you know :)

I really thought that someone as highly "educated" as yourself would know that when you offer information, other than speculation or opinion, you post a reference so that people can verify it or do further research for themselves.






"but I can see you want to be confrontational about it,"

Blue on blue ring a bell? So for this I better stop this.

Rita __

tinmenace
06-08-2007, 12:48 AM
So for this I better stop this.

Rita __

Yes, that suites me fine...

See ya round the forum... ;)

eternal_spirit
06-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Esoteric Unveiled and Revelations in
High Masonic Tradition

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/images/Michael.GIFMichael fought with his Angels, and the Dragon fought with his.
The compilers of Revelations wove the esoteric with the
exoteric, combining Egyptian, Persian and Babylonian
terminology and symbology together. On one side of the 'battle'
we see the 'good angels,' each angel's name ending with 'el,'
the semitic term for the sun. The 'good guys' were really the
summer signs of the Zodiac, the Hebrew names being Micha-el,
Abdi-el, Azra-el etc.. The' bad guys' bore the Egyptian names
for the winter months, their names ending with -on, the Egyptian
name for the sun; the sun in winter bringing signs of impending
evil. Therefore we have Abadd-on, Apolly-on etc..Taken in context we see a Hebrew interpretation of a 'heavenly'battle between the Egyptian and Hebrew 'gods,' for the exoteric
explanation. The 'Lord' of the Opposite,' was said to be
domiciled in the sign in opposition of where the sun happened
to be. This' contrary' god was called Beli-el. Baalzebub was
domiciled in Scorpio, which gives the 'kiss' of death to god's sun
every autumn, causing his 'fall.' The esoteric meaning is the
battle of winter against summer. The very word Autumn is
comprised of the Egyptian names Atum, old god of the world
and darkness, matter, and Aten, title of the 'beneficent' sun. Hellwas always said to be in the north, the great abyss referring to
the constellation Draco revolves in an endless serpentine loop.
Draco is one of the latin terms for 'snake.' Drag-on is an
Egyptian term for the north 'pole' where eternal winter was said
to hold his carnival or Circus(circuit}. Helping him were his
'Baals' and 'Ons' Of Chaldea and Egypt.
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eternal_spirit
06-08-2007, 01:02 AM
http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/acatalog/110.ht31.jpg

The iron cross the highest award for Bravery

blindspot
06-08-2007, 01:11 AM
http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/acatalog/110.ht31.jpg

The iron cross the highest award for Bravery

Oh thank you, I got a email from a friend in Spainabout this, but I needed someone else to post it to make this thread not all my work, Thank you eternal_spirit! xxx

Someone with a brain!! You worked out what I was saying!!

Rita xxxxx

Tin did'nt have a clue and started to be nasty.??

eternal_spirit
06-08-2007, 01:21 AM
The Story of the Maltese Cross

The badge of a fireman is the Maltese Cross. This Maltese Cross is a symbol of protection and a badge of honor. Its story is hundreds of years old. http://www.nsfire.org/assets/maltese_cross.gif
When a courageous band of crusaders, the Knights of St. John, fought the Saracens for possession of the Holy Lands, they were faced with a new device of war – fire.
As the crusaders advanced on Jerusalem, the Saracens pelted them with glass bombs full of naphtha and then threw down laming torches. Hundreds of knights were burned alive while others risked their lives to save their kinsmen from painful deaths. Thus these became the first firefighters. Their heroic efforts were recognized by fellow crusaders who awarded them with a badge of honor similar to the cross firefighters wear today.
Since the Knights of St. John lived nearly four centuries on the island of Malta, in the Mediterranean Sea, the cross came to be known as the Maltese Cross. The firefighter who wears this cross is willing to lay down his life for others, just as the crusaders sacrificed their lives for their fellow man so many years ago.
http://www.posterpop.com/images/merchandise/patches/fd-patches/fdp.ironcross.jpg

tinmenace
06-08-2007, 01:40 AM
Oh thank you, I got a email from a friend in Spainabout this, but I needed someone else to post it to make this thread not all my work, Thank you eternal_spirit! xxx

Someone with a brain!! You worked out what I was saying!!

Rita xxxxx

Tin did'nt have a clue and started to be nasty.??

It's your thread, hun. It's up to you to provide us the information you're trying to get across. Playing damsel in distress to cover up an alternate agenda doesn't fool me.



Oh, one more thing....

Nasty? Really? I'm not the one calling names.

blindspot
06-08-2007, 02:10 AM
It's your thread, hun. It's up to you to provide us the information you're trying to get across. Playing damsel in distress to cover up an alternate agenda doesn't fool me.



Oh, one more thing....

Nasty? Really? I'm not the one calling names.








Free truth seekers, please take this from my heart, Tin has won.
I do not wish him to waste my post with pointless threads, so Tin has won.

Rita

No more please Tin, waste of time!!!"

nickatnoon61
06-08-2007, 02:26 AM
Free truth seekers, please take this from my heart, Tin has won.
I do not wish him to waste my post with pointless threads, so Tin has won.

Rita

No more please Tin, waste of time!!!"


Blindspot is obviously more interested in playing games, than rational debate. She loses credibility, by this behavior,IMO.

blindspot
06-08-2007, 11:28 AM
this is what I didn't want to happen.

I have alot to learn about posting on this web site, not easy being new here

mentalogirl
06-08-2007, 01:37 PM
What is "operation sea loin"?

Is this about the fact that,as David Icke points out,the Illuminati are aligned about the overall agenda,but they disagree about 'the spoils' - therefore it makes sense that Hitler would persecute other freemasons?

edelweiss pirate
06-08-2007, 07:56 PM
What I suspect is that in the business of 'civilisation' it is necessary to have a certain desire to do evil in order to do good.

The masons and other groups are employed as the stooges who carry out all the evil but necessary (?) work in order to maintain order..

However within this base there are individuals who for one reason or another are more powerful and think they know best. Often they go out of control and become insane with power, that's often when they make their mistakes. Countless Roman Emprerors, Napoleon and Hitler fit this mould, as would Thatcher. Blair however was a man lacking personal conviction which meant he could be controlled by what now appear to be Roman Catholic elements.

He is not of that mould, he had less power than his invisible comanders so he became a 'yes' man.

All the orders resemble each other is the fundamental psychic experience of the initiates but that does not mean they have to cooperate.

Hitler destroying the masons makes perfect sense because his order was a
'new order' which could not risk being opposed by an old order.

Anyway, it is my belief that Hitler was Jesuit and the Jesuits created Masonry as a stooge organisation to do all their dirty work.

cruise4
07-08-2007, 07:18 AM
Don't worry about it Blindspot. You want to see some of my posts:)

blindspot
07-08-2007, 01:53 PM
What I suspect is that in the business of 'civilisation' it is necessary to have a certain desire to do evil in order to do good.

The masons and other groups are employed as the stooges who carry out all the evil but necessary (?) work in order to maintain order..

However within this base there are individuals who for one reason or another are more powerful and think they know best. Often they go out of control and become insane with power, that's often when they make their mistakes. Countless Roman Emprerors, Napoleon and Hitler fit this mould, as would Thatcher. Blair however was a man lacking personal conviction which meant he could be controlled by what now appear to be Roman Catholic elements.

He is not of that mould, he had less power than his invisible comanders so he became a 'yes' man.

All the orders resemble each other is the fundamental psychic experience of the initiates but that does not mean they have to cooperate.

Hitler destroying the masons makes perfect sense because his order was a
'new order' which could not risk being opposed by an old order.

Anyway, it is my belief that Hitler was Jesuit and the Jesuits created Masonry as a stooge organisation to do all their dirty work.

I take your point and made think about the early 1930's when Hitler was no more than a normal House Painter, Hitler was an Actor and was a shy man in private.

The Hitler we see and fill in the rest with our brain is not the real Hitler.

The only problem with your post is it has no proof, but a lot of "I think"
This is not a bad thing but from my point of view, very hard to take in and use in facts.
If I was to present this, round the garden history lesson to my fellow Masters they would think I am joking or I have lost it.

Perhaps if you could bring me some proof of this to work with.


Ritax

albie
07-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Consider this. If Communism was Jewish plot, then why did they attack the monarchy, who are bloodline?

This would put the Jews against the Illuminati.

Why would they kill their own?

tru3
07-08-2007, 05:35 PM
There IS a type of battle as you said going on within freemasonry...some people are just there for power and that's it, whereas the others are there to learn the knowledge and apply it in their lives, and i see it myself, take it into society to try and make things better...of course this is most likely just to keep the lower level masons happily thinking thaey're changing society and making a difference when all the while the ones at the top are just using them as pawns, just like the rest of us who aren't freemasons.



ah! here comes the rank and file, ready to make the world a better place!

CHAAAAAAARGE!!!!

http://data1.blog.de/blog/p/parametric/img/shriners.jpg

i'm sorry, i know it's a loomie org, evil and all, but i just LOOOOOOVE those leetle beety teeny tiny cars! :D

blindspot
07-08-2007, 10:27 PM
CHAAAAAAARGE!!!! on your country!!!


Welcher sinnloser Posten, den Sie gemacht haben, versuchen Sie, vor Dose zu kriechen?

Leute sind gerade dumm?

Danke alot, tru3, um hinzuweisen, wie dieses Forum zu mir, mit allen Typen des Stiers yank Scheiße arbeitet

tru3
08-08-2007, 04:33 AM
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess he had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

"unforgiven"

nickatnoon61
08-08-2007, 04:41 AM
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess he had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

"unforgiven"


That movie "The Unforgiven" was filmed outside of Calgary,Alberta.

phoenix1
09-08-2007, 09:42 AM
Please this is going now where please stop with silly posts!!


Says the person who posts personal info on other people shame on you , Glad you found an ally in Celtic Isis rolling on the floor laughing my fucking head off (sorry for the fucking profanity CI.. get over it )

Blindspot YEP YOU HAVE A BIG BLINDSPOT DONT YOU !! ??you get a spun out Masters and take it as good information learned, better you UN-Learn it. Brainwashed in THEIR "education" is no education at all.

Accedemia ??? = BULLSHIT.

REAL KNOWLEDGE AINT IN ACCEDEMIC LAND and WISDOM IS MISSING COMPLETLY HAHHAAH ,

Original Masonry was with the Egyptians and in all their wisdom, it came with them to Egypt (from elsewhere but my lips are sealed here cos of Masonic infiltration in this site).

Original "Masonry " WAS and still is Mystery School based, and for good reasons certain people WITH the ORIGINAL WISDOM ARE STILL AROUND THANK GOD they are too ..THEY are waiting for a cycle to come about.. THIS CORE ORIGINAL is inpenetratable by modern Charleton TWISTED Wanna be real "Modern Free Masonry ( of any rite)" They would love the KEYS but will never have them.

The Present Corruptions IE "Corrupted Modern Masonry" does NOT hold ALL the Keys to the Original wisdom Meant for ALL HUMANKIND AND UNIVERSAL KIND knowledge and wisdom attainment.

The Modern Masons think they are deep under.. they however KNOW there are certain individulas deeper than they will ever be... THESE are the Players that really can play cards as it where (they are the cards)... and Modern Masonry of any kind would just love to know the REAL COOL CARD HOLDERS and theend game (or rather beggining game).

Thats it from me here .. Im just telling you ..Modern Freemasonry at all levels sucks .. BUT its the PURE FORM that has the correct intent... its why its sooooo deep you cant touch it. The reason is a good one. To keep it from would be "free masons" lower case "free masons" to show my disdain of them.

freemasonry HA!! Fuck em



In The Phoenix House....Without the Indoctrination , without Dogma, without, Lies, True to the HeartFlame.

If this sounds like .. crap.. dont ask me to clarify.. the answer will be NO!

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:13 PM
Interesting. One story is this........In Public to make out he was against masons and secret societies in general, he killed off some Masons as you've described in the post above.

While in reality some of the Elite Lodges of higher Masonry, would work from behind the scenes working for both sides during the war. Rothschilds Zionist bankers funded both sides Nazi's and those they fought.

Hitler wanted to take all the occult knowledge from masons and other secret orders, mystery schools and hoard this knowledge for himself, so other wouldn't use it against him.

that's exactly it eternal spirit.

I know he raided the freemasonic headquarters in Paris cause he was sure they had some incredible knowledge...and probably destroyed anything he found after...though i don't think he actually found anything of great importance!


Nothing (regarding the symbolism etc) is MASONIC ok, it is OCCULT, ESOTERIC...knowledge that was passed down by word of mouth in the mystery schools even before freemasonry existed.

We think of these symbols as being masonic as a force of habit but they're not. They have always been around, long before freemasons began to use them.

Freemasons look for guidance (in their personal lives, and for society) by studying the ancient esoteric knowledge, whether this knowledge is turned inside out at the higher levels it doesn't matter cause at least the masons down in the lower degress will have learnt the good positive freeing knowledge, and will then bring this into society as a whole.

I'm desperate to know if it's satanism in the higher or rather inner degress, but how can i know for sure unless i became one too? And i can't cause i'm female, and i'm not one of the elite! :( So i will never know this, i will never enter this selective circle, none of us will.

That doesn't make what the lower masons study and talk about bad.

Read any book by CW Leadbeater. There's one here:

http://www.anandgholap.net/Hidden_Life_In_Freemasonry-CWL.htm

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:15 PM
Says the person who posts personal info on other people shame on you , Glad you found an ally in Celtic Isis rolling on the floor laughing my fucking head off (sorry for the fucking profanity CI.. get over it )

Blindspot YEP YOU HAVE A BIG BLINDSPOT DONT YOU !! ??you get a spun out Masters and take it as good information learned, better you UN-Learn it. Brainwashed in THEIR "education" is no education at all.

Accedemia ??? = BULLSHIT.

REAL KNOWLEDGE AINT IN ACCEDEMIC LAND and WISDOM IS MISSING COMPLETLY HAHHAAH ,

Original Masonry was with the Egyptians and in all their wisdom, it came with them to Egypt (from elsewhere but my lips are sealed here cos of Masonic infiltration in this site).

Original "Masonry " WAS and still is Mystery School based, and for good reasons certain people WITH the ORIGINAL WISDOM ARE STILL AROUND THANK GOD they are too ..THEY are waiting for a cycle to come about.. THIS CORE ORIGINAL is inpenetratable by modern Charleton TWISTED Wanna be real "Modern Free Masonry ( of any rite)" They would love the KEYS but will never have them.

The Present Corruptions IE "Corrupted Modern Masonry" does NOT hold ALL the Keys to the Original wisdom Meant for ALL HUMANKIND AND UNIVERSAL KIND knowledge and wisdom attainment.

The Modern Masons think they are deep under.. they however KNOW there are certain individulas deeper than they will ever be... THESE are the Players that really can play cards as it where (they are the cards)... and Modern Masonry of any kind would just love to know the REAL COOL CARD HOLDERS and theend game (or rather beggining game).

Thats it from me here .. Im just telling you ..Modern Freemasonry at all levels sucks .. BUT its the PURE FORM that has the correct intent... its why its sooooo deep you cant touch it. The reason is a good one. To keep it from would be "free masons" lower case "free masons" to show my disdain of them.

freemasonry HA!! Fuck em



In The Phoenix House....Without the Indoctrination , without Dogma, without, Lies, True to the HeartFlame.

If this sounds like .. crap.. dont ask me to clarify.. the answer will be NO!


EXCUSE ME I'M NOT AN ALLY OF ANYONE.

You should get over yourself, you do seem to have huge issues with freemasons for all your big talk there , so fuck them so lol as you said what's it got to do with you?

i'm not even going to argue with you cause it is pointless.

I don't know what i ever did to you for you to be like this. :confused: I'm not part of the masonic infiltration lol and i even feel spooked by it now to be honest. Blindspot etc they're here to give their opinion as we should all be free to do so without getting harassed phoenix.

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Good post :D celtic. I think Icke says that the ancient mystery schools of Babylon,Sumer, Egypt and greece maybe hijacked Masonry as a way of keeping their knowledge and passing it's secrets through many different levels of secret societies.

cheers hunny :D

love your posts!

sorry haven't been checking in on this the past few days...must say reading through now it's the most confusing thread ever :confused:

mr_moon
09-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Is everyone ok?

The World has enough War without us!

We need to end the War inside ourselves if we want to see a difference...

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:43 PM
haha, I've said it before, but you were paying only half attention.;)

:o

ah tin can we be friends *again* ? I really hate all this bad feeling, and i'm sorry i annoyed you on your freemason thread. :(

i only say sorry when i really mean it, and i really mean it now.

It makes me sad, in general, i mean, not regarding you at all, but how this forum is going lately.

None of us know the real truth, and i don't know if we ever will. But it would make more sense if we banded together and things were more lighter, and we just went back to contributing the info we have to contribute cause we all have our own things, our own qualities here, it's a shame to waste it arguing.

I have been keeping away more cause i'm too stressed at the mo anyway in my life in general, i'm really trying here to be more diplomatic lol and it sure isn't my strongpoint!

anyway, take care all.

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:44 PM
Is everyone ok?

The World has enough War without us!

We need to end the War inside ourselves if we want to see a difference...

Much Love,

Jay
xxx

funny you just posted that Jay ;)

yes end the war please! :(

mr_moon
09-08-2007, 06:47 PM
Ill feeling, arguments, conflicts... they'll be short lived if we acknowledge we're doing it! Merely recognising the conflict within ourselves, is enough to diffuse and calm an argument... and the world... ;)

It is funny how i posted that...

celtic isis
09-08-2007, 06:54 PM
Ill feeling, arguments, conflicts... they'll be short lived if we acknowledge we're doing it! Merely recognising the conflict within ourselves, is enough to diffuse and calm an argument... and the world... ;)

It is funny how i posted that...

i know, i need to read my richard carlson book again :o

i meant it's funny you posted that, in the middle of us arguing and then i posted my apology and then i saw your post. :)

nickatnoon61
09-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Is everyone ok?

The World has enough War without us!

We need to end the War inside ourselves if we want to see a difference...

Much Love,

Jay
xxx
Yes Mr.Mooonie:) To attain world peace....we need inner peace.......

nickatnoon61
09-08-2007, 07:03 PM
:o

ah tin can we be friends *again* ? I really hate all this bad feeling, and i'm sorry i annoyed you on your freemason thread. :(

i only say sorry when i really mean it, and i really mean it now.

It makes me sad, in general, i mean, not regarding you at all, but how this forum is going lately.

None of us know the real truth, and i don't know if we ever will. But it would make more sense if we banded together and things were more lighter, and we just went back to contributing the info we have to contribute cause we all have our own things, our own qualities here, it's a shame to waste it arguing.

I have been keeping away more cause i'm too stressed at the mo anyway in my life in general, i'm really trying here to be more diplomatic lol and it sure isn't my strongpoint!

anyway, take care all.

Hi Celtic, I will be your friend, on one condition! :)You put your "sheep with teeth":eek: signature back on! When I first got on the forum a few weeks ago, I never laffed so hard after reading that!!!:D I thought to meself....this Irish lassie has attitude....reminds me of meself!!!!:eek:

tinmenace
09-08-2007, 10:45 PM
:o

ah tin can we be friends *again* ? I really hate all this bad feeling, and i'm sorry i annoyed you on your freemason thread. :(

i only say sorry when i really mean it, and i really mean it now.

It makes me sad, in general, i mean, not regarding you at all, but how this forum is going lately.

None of us know the real truth, and i don't know if we ever will. But it would make more sense if we banded together and things were more lighter, and we just went back to contributing the info we have to contribute cause we all have our own things, our own qualities here, it's a shame to waste it arguing.

I have been keeping away more cause i'm too stressed at the mo anyway in my life in general, i'm really trying here to be more diplomatic lol and it sure isn't my strongpoint!

anyway, take care all.

Alright, we'll give it a go. Clean slate. :)

nickatnoon61
09-08-2007, 11:14 PM
Alright, we'll give it a go. Clean slate. :) Way to go Tinny!!!! This forum is back to one BIG happy disfunctional family!!!!:eek:

phoenix1
10-08-2007, 12:16 AM
EXCUSE ME I'M NOT AN ALLY OF ANYONE.
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OK cool .. dont you see Blindspots posting personal info as like not on ??? Its why my signature is the way it is.. with my persomal details on... now some loke Tin ans many others dont like this kinda thing out in public.. Me ?? I dont give a damn , my details are allready well on file believe me.. so I dont care at all persomally.. I saw you posting in The wake is all,after Blindspots posts impinginging on Tins (personal data) reason why the posts were taken out..good

Me I do have allys ?? Yes , why ?? cos I chose to have good allys i know and trust implicitly and see them for who they REALLY ARE.. its difficult to really "see" someone on a forum
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You should get over yourself, you do seem to have huge issues with freemasons for all your big talk there , so fuck them so lol as you said what's it got to do with you?
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Big talk ??do you wanna know more ?? I dontsee the anglle there please explian it to me as I dont see what you are saying

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I am with myself in the high side .. in the low side everone is getting over themselves when we have to come down to do this stuff.. Im no different in 3D. than anyone else CI so we are all the same essentially in 3D

In 3D also I have a ptoblem with Freemasonry yes.. as ive seen it in my family.Also Ive seen the Rosicrussiam angles in my family too.

I am at odds with the messed up top end mostly.. bit the otheres at any end know where they are headed and why. Its got a lot to do with me personally.

Masons ans Rosicrucians in my family... Its personal and not persnal.. I dislike the power trip.. there is no sprititual jewel in Masonry. Period.

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i'm not even going to argue with you cause it is pointless.
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Yes arguement is pointless with me or anyone else is.. an exercise into futility as no thing is gained from arguement.... you mentioned Argue NOT me. Howeever mnone of us here totally avoid it do we. Yes its stipid to argue...

You can reach me .. in discussion and friendship.. I will afford you the same courtesy.

Good to have each other off our own backs. I cold have been more fiery Celtic Isis .. I wanted to see how you played the ball... today with tin you BOTH scored. Congratulations... Movement from stagnation all round.
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I don't know what i ever did to you for you to be like this. :confused: I'm not part of the masonic infiltration lol and i even feel spooked by it now to be honest. Blindspot etc they're here to give their opinion as we should all be free to do so without getting harassed phoenix.
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Youhave done NO THING to me.. im impervious... however i did take a dislikeing to you constantly chasing Tin... so now you know...

I "see" the inner Tinmenace .. and shes cool in my book...OK OK i woildnt get into the Masonic stuff if I were you .. it blinds the inner eye.. the stoned they set are misleading Celtic Isis.. I hope you get to see it .. and not in bad way .. I just hope ou see it for what it really is in todays edition.
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As for Blindspot . I kow about the pulled post .. you saw it right ?? or no ??
either way wht Blindspot did was not on at all, pesonal details released by another without permission sureley cannot be right eh ??

BTW I make my peace with you Celtic Isis .. I see you have extended the hand of friendship and reconcilliation to Timenace.. I am glad to see that. It took a lot ,, Im proud of you for doing so.. respect is due for that Lady

I too bury my hidenn hatchet with you .. in the nearest block of wood.

I admire you for doing thatCeltic Isis... I look forward to some more engaging stuff,
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At the end of the day Celtic Isis ... you have gianed a good light today..

I love everyone here Celtic Isis ,, you are no exception Honey. I hope the white flag stays up and growth on al sides is made.

:):):)

Happy Phoenix

tinmenace
10-08-2007, 01:16 AM
:)

mr_moon
10-08-2007, 01:53 AM
You Lovelies xxx

Jay
xxx

avalon
10-08-2007, 06:01 AM
The Free Mason are ONE group today, and they originally were not the Illuminati - that they were infiltrated with and taken over by. Today and for over a century, the Free Masons has been and IS the Illuminati .
They even had the Bio of them on the history channel not long ago. But I've studied all this for years, is how I know.

phoenix1
10-08-2007, 07:47 AM
:)

You Lovelies xxx

Jay
xxx


Hi Tin Hi mr-moon .. I hope Celtic Isis sees this. Its what I call positive cresting .

Reconcilliations eh ?? Nothing like them .:):):)

Tip stuff Celltic Isis and Tin Hooooorayyy !!!!

Yep !! HappyPhoenix

celtic isis
10-08-2007, 07:15 PM
Hi Celtic, I will be your friend, on one condition! :)You put your "sheep with teeth":eek: signature back on! When I first got on the forum a few weeks ago, I never laffed so hard after reading that!!!:D I thought to meself....this Irish lassie has attitude....reminds me of meself!!!!:eek:

awwwww! hehe nickatnoon :D

i'll do it just for you!

you're the only one who noticed it :) glad it gave you a laugh!

celtic isis
10-08-2007, 07:24 PM
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Youhave done NO THING to me.. im impervious... however i did take a dislikeing to you constantly chasing Tin... so now you know...

I "see" the inner Tinmenace .. and shes cool in my book...OK OK i woildnt get into the Masonic stuff if I were you .. it blinds the inner eye.. the stoned they set are misleading Celtic Isis.. I hope you get to see it .. and not in bad way .. I just hope ou see it for what it really is in todays edition.
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As for Blindspot . I kow about the pulled post .. you saw it right ?? or no ??
either way wht Blindspot did was not on at all, pesonal details released by another without permission sureley cannot be right eh ??

BTW I make my peace with you Celtic Isis .. I see you have extended the hand of friendship and reconcilliation to Timenace.. I am glad to see that. It took a lot ,, Im proud of you for doing so.. respect is due for that Lady

I too bury my hidenn hatchet with you .. in the nearest block of wood.

I admire you for doing thatCeltic Isis... I look forward to some more engaging stuff,
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At the end of the day Celtic Isis ... you have gianed a good light today..

I love everyone here Celtic Isis ,, you are no exception Honey. I hope the white flag stays up and growth on al sides is made.



Happy Phoenix


YAY! :D:D:D happy phoenix lol

Yep, i *hope* i've learned a bit from this...i didn't mean to chase tin and i didn't realise i was doing it, that's the honest truth...oh well what's done is done...just hope it's not too late to reconcile...make things more fun round here!

I guess i have realised we're all on this path to truth, it's not going to help if we're all fighting...and i know the freemason thing isn't good...i know it, my guy is an extremely good guy though, and is only looking for truth, he's not brainwashed "yet" and i'll always keep my eye on him. there's no mason meetings all summer and it's kool! I like it like this ;) But i respect him to do it for as long as he wants. Anyway it's only two meetings a month.

I just was making me sad to think you think i'm engaged to a mindless brainwashed type person, when he's the opposite.

Anyway i'm getting him on here soon (i'm sure you'll be thrilled to hear that lol ;)) so he can fight his own battles lol he won't though cause he's the coolest person around, almost as cool as auron! :D and that's cool!

so infinite love to you all :p (this is a blowing kiss, not a sticky outy tongue in this context ok:)

PS i don't know about a pulled post...but i'm guessing it was something i said in a private message? :(

if it is i just say what's done is done, and i apologise.

celtic isis
10-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Alright, we'll give it a go. Clean slate. :)

awww thanks tin :)

nickatnoon61
10-08-2007, 08:11 PM
awwwww! hehe nickatnoon :D

i'll do it just for you!

you're the only one who noticed it :) glad it gave you a laugh!

Thanx Hun!!!:) I want to copy it and use it for my signature on my emails!:eek:

celtic isis
11-08-2007, 07:33 PM
Thanx Hun!!!:) I want to copy it and use it for my signature on my emails!:eek:

kool!

go ahead!

haha i should do it too! :D just to say i got it from the nine inch nails website, i didn't make it up myself though i wish i did!

I want to get it printed on a t shirt! :D

nickatnoon61
11-08-2007, 07:42 PM
kool!

go ahead!

haha i should do it too! :D just to say i got it from the nine inch nails website, i didn't make it up myself though i wish i did!

I want to get it printed on a t shirt! :D
Thanx Celtic,. the fact that it stood out to you, and carries credence is the most important thing. The T-shirt is a GREAT idea too...cheers.....:)

celtic isis
11-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Thanx Celtic,. the fact that it stood out to you, and carries credence is the most important thing. The T-shirt is a GREAT idea too...cheers.....:)

haha, yep it's so true though isn't it, poor sheep, and we're the ones who can give them their claws...though fighting isn't the answer to all this...i can't help it it's in me blood goddamnit! no it's not :o

you mind me asking how you came to find out all about this agenda nickatnoon? :) It's always interesting how people came upon it...

nickatnoon61
11-08-2007, 08:25 PM
haha, yep it's so true though isn't it, poor sheep, and we're the ones who can give them their claws...though fighting isn't the answer to all this...i can't help it it's in me blood goddamnit! no it's not :o

you mind me asking how you came to find out all about this agenda nickatnoon? :) It's always interesting how people came upon it...

I had a spiritual awakening in 1992, and after that I have had an even more burning desire to know TRUTH! I have left the "clawless/mindless" sheeple friends, and family of mine behind. "How can you soar like an eagle, when you allow turkeys to pull you down?" I guess you could say I am the black "sheep" of my family. The first book(booklet) I ever read on "conspiracy" was "Billions For Bankers,Debt For the People".(1993) I really took off,tho, when I saw an ad, in1997 or 1998, for Icke's seminar,in a small, free publication called "Issues". It is a local metaphysical/health rag. I didn't go that year to see Icke, because I could not get anyone with wheels to go. I did go see him the next year,tho ,in Vernon,BC Canada! I instantly became a fan of his, right then and there. I have never heard anyone speak as clearly and concisely, with humor, as he does! He is very effective,no? I have since read all of his books,videos,etc. I have also read tons of links in the same genre, from Mind-Control, religion,Reppies, Inner Earth,911, banksters,chemtrails,natural health, spirituality,etal. It has become my passion of life! So, what's your story,Isis?:)

celtic isis
11-08-2007, 08:46 PM
I had a spiritual awakening in 1992, and after that I have had an even more burning desire to know TRUTH! I have left the "clawless/mindless" sheeple friends, and family of mine behind. "How can you soar like an eagle, when you allow turkeys to pull you down?" I guess you could say I am the black "sheep" of my family. The first book(booklet) I ever read on "conspiracy" was "Billions For Bankers,Debt For the People".(1993) I really took off,tho, when I saw an ad, in1997 or 1998, for Icke's seminar,in a small, free publication called "Issues". It is a local metaphysical/health rag. I didn't go that year to see Icke, because I could not get anyone with wheels to go. I did go see him the next year,tho ,in Vernon,BC Canada! I instantly became a fan of his, right then and there. I have never heard anyone speak as clearly and concisely, with humor, as he does! He is very effective,no? I have since read all of his books,videos,etc. I have also read tons of links in the same genre, from Mind-Control, religion,Reppies, Inner Earth,911, banksters,chemtrails,natural health, spirituality,etal. It has become my passion of life! So, what's your story,Isis?:)

very interesting awakening there nickatnoon, all the different avenues in life that take or lead us to this path, it's incredible.

Yep i know what you mean about turkeys :D hehe Reppies!

You're right about icke, no one puts the whole agenda down in black and white, or gives it a voice quite like he does. His wit is so unique and typically english i love it. And still he is seen as a nutter, lunatic and so many people miss out on what he has to offer, if they'd only just pick up one of his books...this pisses me off no end! lol

i know i'm a black sheep too, though my dad already knew about the NWO and stuff when i wouldn't shut up about it...

I found out when my OH got the book "behold a pale horse" by William Cooper, that's getting on for two years ago now and been digging around ever since..; i saw icke when i was a kid on irish tv...you can imagine what a mocking he got...but he made an impression on me even then though i forgot about it being just a kid...i saw his books on amazon last year looking for something else, recognised the name and then realised it was that ICKE :) and ordered I am Me, i am FREE and loved it and been reading his others since. :)

I have so much respect for icke, his health isn't good, you see how he's bloated now, i know it's middle age spread but it's also the steriods he must be on for his arthritis...if they give steroids for that :confused: i should know but i don't.

My god, i wouldn't want his job. I get enough stress trying to wake up my bozos nevermind having the media ruining your reputation at every opportunity in the public arena. I feel really sorry for him sometimes. And for his family.

I really do feel he's genuine, just cause as a writer he is learning his craft, he isn't calculating in the slightest. You see how human he in the way he talks to you when he writes...

There's only a small amount of his work i'm not entirely sure about...and that's my prob lol Icke's da man! I wish everyone would see him or read him!

here's to the next book ;)

celtic isis
11-08-2007, 08:51 PM
i forgot to say bloody hell that's brave of you to leave your family behind too now that you're on this path...i'm facing having to do that too. Well i've lost the only one who was on this path too, and the rest are so caught up in the falseness of society, survival of the fittest and looking after number one first kind of thing...it's a waste of time trying to make them see anything let alone arouse passion in them to fight for it, to fight for justice and our freedom.

celtic isis
11-08-2007, 09:18 PM
www.anotherversionofthetruth.com

have you clicked on it? it's so kool! you have to click on the screen and drag to wipe away the first image :D

nickatnoon61
11-08-2007, 10:04 PM
i forgot to say bloody hell that's brave of you to leave your family behind too now that you're on this path...i'm facing having to do that too. Well i've lost the only one who was on this path too, and the rest are so caught up in the falseness of society, survival of the fittest and looking after number one first kind of thing...it's a waste of time trying to make them see anything let alone arouse passion in them to fight for it, to fight for justice and our freedom.


]i forgot to say bloody hell that's brave of you to leave your family behind too now that you're on this path..

That wasn't hard to do, as I always felt different from them. My mother passed on around 5 yrs. ago.(cancer) I talk to her more now, than I did when she was in her space-suit! :)I mention Icke and his philosophies to most people I meet. It gives me an idea of where they are at in their awareness.But I don't waste as much time trying to wake them up as I used to. Setting an example, by my own lifestyle, behavior, is more effective! To each their own, so long as they are not harming others! I was baptized Catholic but our family did not attend church very often.Luckily, just a few Xmas functions, and that's about it! Religion =division=CONTROL. Look at what happened to Ireland, under the guise of religious freedom! Who cares if you are Cathloic or Protestant? It's all BS, anyhow! I always wanted to go there, but I get an impression/image of dark,gloomy,cloudy all the time, like it was in Vancouver growing up.Maybe I'll go in the Summer. County Cork is where my families roots lie. Have you been there? I think the Irish are the koolest, because they wud rather drink than go to war!!!:eek: LOL

celtic isis
13-08-2007, 05:25 PM
]i forgot to say bloody hell that's brave of you to leave your family behind too now that you're on this path..

That wasn't hard to do, as I always felt different from them. My mother passed on around 5 yrs. ago.(cancer) I talk to her more now, than I did when she was in her space-suit! I mention Icke and his philosophies to most people I meet. It gives me an idea of where they are at in their awareness.But I don't waste as much time trying to wake them up as I used to. Setting an example, by my own lifestyle, behavior, is more effective! To each their own, so long as they are not harming others! I was baptized Catholic but our family did not attend church very often.Luckily, just a few Xmas functions, and that's about it! Religion =division=CONTROL. Look at what happened to Ireland, under the guise of religious freedom! Who cares if you are Cathloic or Protestant? It's all BS, anyhow! I always wanted to go there, but I get an impression/image of dark,gloomy,cloudy all the time, like it was in Vancouver growing up.Maybe I'll go in the Summer. County Cork is where my families roots lie. Have you been there? I think the Irish are the koolest, because they wud rather drink than go to war!!!:eek: LOL

hey nick :)

first off, i have to reassure you Ireland is not all cloud and gloom! It's a fantastic country, really beautiful with really friendly people :) You'll love it! Make sure you go to dublin ;) the north is beautiful too, like Donegal, and Kerry is breathtaking in the south. I'm from Limerick, in the south west, the city that gave us the cheeky poems of the same name. ;) Limerick is meant to have the best looking girls too but you will see for yourself if that's true!

Ireland's just been robbed of its own heritage, it's all "european" now and that makes me sad. We're a nation of fighters, like for justice and yet, i don't know, irish people are living in la-la land it seems and actually have been for a long time. They've settled for "half-freedom" all these years, in so many different ways. They've sold their souls to be left alone...now that i understand the whole agenda/manipulation (well half understand it!) i can see how this has happened and for what purpose. I feel sorry for my country, i love it alot and am proud to be irish, for what it means.

I hope you go sometime, even to cork as you say, you have ties there. I've been to cork a few times, for a wedding last year in fact.

So you grew up in Vancouver, wow i'd love to visit there. I used to always want to go cause i knew the x-files was filmed there... haha i posted a lot of fan letters there actually! :o It's rainy but i bet it's beautiful by the sea there. You're right, it is actually like cork in a way. I have family in Ontario who emigrated there and they love it!

You're right about not trying to wake people up as much, i'm still in the slapping people in the face kind of mood but i guess i'm a relative newbie still ;). I get to the point where i can't be bothered anymore, and then i get fired up again...it's hard work though ain't it.


hehe i don't know if irish would rather drink and party rather than go to war...:o i think irish are tired after so many crap years of hunger, fighting, and general depair that they just want to be cooler now...we'll have to wait and see when the NWO comes in i guess.

Yep i was catholic too, and my mam was a nun! I had a pretty hard slog when i was 12 and realised it was a load of crap and refused to go to church anymore...in the end i won :o. So you were raised catholic too. I know, it's so obvious now religon is just a tool to control, divide and imprison...I know icke writes alot about the goings on in northern ireland i have to read it again. Its all so orchestrated i can't believe more people don't wake up to the senselessness of it all.

I'm really sorry about you losing your mum too, i know how hard it is. I love what you said about talking to her more now than when she was in her spacesuit! I don't really talk to my mam at all since she died, i guess it's too soon for me yet, though i feel her around me all the time. And even in grief, it helps to know our mum's are happy and free now, though i miss mine terrible. They are everywhere and everything and eternal.

so nick, i better go for now, see you around and take care.

seanx
13-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Good post, Celtic Isis.

Isn't it amazing Ireland frought for nearly 800 years, again and
again against British rule - and yet, in the space of a few years -
given away virtually all of our freedom to the so-called
'European union'.

tru3
14-08-2007, 11:02 AM
first off, i have to reassure you Ireland is not all cloud and gloom! It's a fantastic country, really beautiful with really friendly people You'll love it! Make sure you go to dublin the north is beautiful too, like Donegal, and Kerry is breathtaking in the south. I'm from Limerick, in the south west, the city that gave us the cheeky poems of the same name. Limerick is meant to have the best looking girls too but you will see for yourself if that's true!

Ireland's just been robbed of its own heritage, it's all "european" now and that makes me sad. We're a nation of fighters, like for justice and yet, i don't know, irish people are living in la-la land it seems and actually have been for a long time. They've settled for "half-freedom" all these years, in so many different ways. They've sold their souls to be left alone...now that i understand the whole agenda/manipulation (well half understand it!) i can see how this has happened and for what purpose. I feel sorry for my country, i love it alot and am proud to be irish, for what it means.

my wife and i went on our honeymoon in ireland. we'd go back any day. :)

don't be too hard on your compatriots; 800 years of struggle! that would wear anyone down. people just get tired. that's part of the overall strategy: apply constant stress until people get the "thousand yard stare" and check out.

maybe it's time for someone else to pick up the challenge. :confused:

nickatnoon61
14-08-2007, 11:11 AM
hey nick :)

first off, i have to reassure you Ireland is not all cloud and gloom! It's a fantastic country, really beautiful with really friendly people :) You'll love it! Make sure you go to dublin ;) the north is beautiful too, like Donegal, and Kerry is breathtaking in the south. I'm from Limerick, in the south west, the city that gave us the cheeky poems of the same name. ;) Limerick is meant to have the best looking girls too but you will see for yourself if that's true!

Ireland's just been robbed of its own heritage, it's all "european" now and that makes me sad. We're a nation of fighters, like for justice and yet, i don't know, irish people are living in la-la land it seems and actually have been for a long time. They've settled for "half-freedom" all these years, in so many different ways. They've sold their souls to be left alone...now that i understand the whole agenda/manipulation (well half understand it!) i can see how this has happened and for what purpose. I feel sorry for my country, i love it alot and am proud to be irish, for what it means.

I hope you go sometime, even to cork as you say, you have ties there. I've been to cork a few times, for a wedding last year in fact.

So you grew up in Vancouver, wow i'd love to visit there. I used to always want to go cause i knew the x-files was filmed there... haha i posted a lot of fan letters there actually! :o It's rainy but i bet it's beautiful by the sea there. You're right, it is actually like cork in a way. I have family in Ontario who emigrated there and they love it!

You're right about not trying to wake people up as much, i'm still in the slapping people in the face kind of mood but i guess i'm a relative newbie still ;). I get to the point where i can't be bothered anymore, and then i get fired up again...it's hard work though ain't it.


hehe i don't know if irish would rather drink and party rather than go to war...:o i think irish are tired after so many crap years of hunger, fighting, and general depair that they just want to be cooler now...we'll have to wait and see when the NWO comes in i guess.

Yep i was catholic too, and my mam was a nun! I had a pretty hard slog when i was 12 and realised it was a load of crap and refused to go to church anymore...in the end i won :o. So you were raised catholic too. I know, it's so obvious now religon is just a tool to control, divide and imprison...I know icke writes alot about the goings on in northern ireland i have to read it again. Its all so orchestrated i can't believe more people don't wake up to the senselessness of it all.

I'm really sorry about you losing your mum too, i know how hard it is. I love what you said about talking to her more now than when she was in her spacesuit! I don't really talk to my mam at all since she died, i guess it's too soon for me yet, though i feel her around me all the time. And even in grief, it helps to know our mum's are happy and free now, though i miss mine terrible. They are everywhere and everything and eternal.

so nick, i better go for now, see you around and take care.

Thanx Celtic, I would like to see my homeland before I croak! I would probably never come back to Canada if i did! I have watched many National Georaphic type shows on the telly about Ireland, Wales, coastal towns.etc.They are very romantic, and it takes me back in time it seems. My mum and dad went there in the 70s and I looked at all the pics. Very green! I moved from Vancouver in 1993. It is being named New Asia soon, I think!! )=It is overrun with Chinese and Hindus! When I first came to Kelowna, in 1988,I went to a corner store and there was I white man behind the counter! I jokingly said,"can I take picture because my friends in Hongcouver won't believe this!!!! Those who don't know the agenda behind forced emigration will whine and call me a racist! Vancouver is still a beautiful city with lots of parks,waterways,harbour,mountains,ocean,etc.It is similar to Seattle in many ways. They have filmed many movies,tv series there in the last 20 years. They call it Hollywood North. I lived in the West End for Expo 86. It was right where the action is. I was only 8 blks. from the site itself! That was the best year of my life! I had an apartment on the 16th floor with a SW view of English Bay, and Stanley Park. Very famous and wesome sunsets there! Also only a few blks away, was the small ferries that take you to Granville Island. There is a big market there and restaurants and theaters.I never drove my car while I lived there as everything was just outside the door! It is very crowded now, but I still like to stroll down Robson St. and Denman Ave.once in a while and check out the great variety of cafes and pubs. So you are in France now? Hugs, Celtic. bye bye :) Nick.

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 01:00 PM
Good post, Celtic Isis.

Isn't it amazing Ireland frought for nearly 800 years, again and
again against British rule - and yet, in the space of a few years -
given away virtually all of our freedom to the so-called
'European union'.

hey seanx :) thank you my friend.

Yep i know, and i only realise it now!

You know a few years ago, before i heard about the NWO etc, i remember over hearing people saying jeez, this european union thing, we don't even have control over our own country anymore - this is forbidden according to EU legislation or whatever, this is banned, that is banned...we're told we're not "irish" anymore, we're european now...and this was before the euro currency even came into play...it's sad and everytime i'm back in ireland i see people are losing their irishness, do you see it too? I mean little by little...

But we're not european, we're irish first! We're seperated by water...i see in france that people are european, and different to us...(not to acknowledge the false separation of us as human beings) but just in talking about this subject. People on the continent of europe are slightly nuts! I can't put my finger on it, but in ireland we're just different, cause we have our own way of being. I guess we used to be more isolated, whereas here cause they're all joined at the borders they inter mingle wiht eachother more, so this "nutsness" they have gets carried around! :D

I shouldn't say it like this, but it's true, i'm sure anyone who has ever gone on holiday to another european destination will have seen it too, or maybe i'm the one who is nuts. It's quite possible!

But yeah, i think if or rather when the UK adopt the euro...they'll see IT then. It's a dictatorship the EU! Once you're in, your country isn't your own anymore. Fact. And we know it don't we.

We were watching a documentary the other day and a "historian" in dublin, i think it was trinity college was actally blindly stating that the irish aren't Celts! OMG! :eek: You bastard! lol No so what are we, let me guess...European? :mad:

hehe don't get me started!

They really want to rob us of our identity, our heritage. Aside from the "we are all one" etc, i like being irish, i'm proud of it. And it's something that we share with the welsh, with scottish with french too, we're all celtic.

I'm gone off topic a bit there now...:o

nickatnoon61
14-08-2007, 01:10 PM
hey seanx :) thank you my friend.

Yep i know, and i only realise it now!

You know a few years ago, before i heard about the NWO etc, i remember over hearing people saying jeez, this european union thing, we don't even have control over our own country anymore - this is forbidden according to EU legislation or whatever, this is banned, that is banned...we're told we're not "irish" anymore, we're european now...and this was before the euro currency even came into play...it's sad and everytime i'm back in ireland i see people are losing their irishness, do you see it too? I mean little by little...

But we're not european, we're irish first! We're seperated by water...i see in france that people are european, and different to us...(not to acknowledge the false separation of us as human beings) but just in talking about this subject. People on the continent of europe are slightly nuts! I can't put my finger on it, but in ireland we're just different, cause we have our own way of being. I guess we used to be more isolated, whereas here cause they're all joined at the borders they inter mingle wiht eachother more, so this "nutsness" they have gets carried around! :D

I shouldn't say it like this, but it's true, i'm sure anyone who has ever gone on holiday to another european destination will have seen it too, or maybe i'm the one who is nuts. It's quite possible!

But yeah, i think if or rather when the UK adopt the euro...they'll see IT then. It's a dictatorship the EU! Once you're in, your country isn't your own anymore. Fact. And we know it don't we.

We were watching a documentary the other day and a "historian" in dublin, i think it was trinity college was actally blindly stating that the irish aren't Celts! OMG! :eek: You bastard! lol No so what are we, let me guess...European? :mad:

hehe don't get me started!

They really want to rob us of our identity, our heritage. Aside from the "we are all one" etc, i like being irish, i'm proud of it. And it's something that we share with the welsh, with scottish with french too, we're all celtic.

I'm gone off topic a bit there now...:o

Celtic, yer funny! Dump FMBoy, and let's get hitched!!!:eek: IAM GOOD WITH SOUP! WHAT MORE COULD A GIRL ASK FOR???? (=

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 01:25 PM
"hehe i don't know if irish would rather drink and party rather than go to war...:o i think irish are tired after so many crap years of hunger, fighting, and general depair that they just want to be cooler now...we'll have to wait and see when the NWO comes in i guess. "

i know tru3 that's why i said this up there too! :D

that's kool you had your honeymoon there awww :) whereabouts did you go?

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 01:26 PM
Celtic, yer funny! Dump FMBoy, and let's get hitched!!!:eek: IAM GOOD WITH SOUP! WHAT MORE COULD A GIRL ASK FOR???? (=

HAHA! nicky boy, i was just goingto answer your post now! (i'm just finishing the cookin lol) :D

hey less of the "FMboy"! He's a musician/composer/healer as well and a free spirit ;)

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 02:43 PM
i'll have to catch ya later cause i'm in the middle of changing flights cause mine's been cancelled :eek::confused::(

lova ya aerlingus :rolleyes:

revolution 9
14-08-2007, 04:50 PM
Ireland rules. I'd like to go there, but I'd like to go everywhere, really. A shame that in our culture, seeing the whole world isn't a part of some coming of age ritual or something.

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 05:49 PM
Ireland rules. I'd like to go there, but I'd like to go everywhere, really. A shame that in our culture, seeing the whole world isn't a part of some coming of age ritual or something.

What a lovely thought revolution9:)

I agree, we'd probably see eachother in a whole different light if we got to meet and see how people all around the world live...i'd love to do it too but i think i'm a tad squeamish to travel in some places :eek: i'm a bit of a "princess" sometimes lol :o

celtic isis
14-08-2007, 08:21 PM
Thanx Celtic, I would like to see my homeland before I croak! I would probably never come back to Canada if i did! I have watched many National Georaphic type shows on the telly about Ireland, Wales, coastal towns.etc.They are very romantic, and it takes me back in time it seems. My mum and dad went there in the 70s and I looked at all the pics. Very green! I moved from Vancouver in 1993. It is being named New Asia soon, I think!! )=It is overrun with Chinese and Hindus! When I first came to Kelowna, in 1988,I went to a corner store and there was I white man behind the counter! I jokingly said,"can I take picture because my friends in Hongcouver won't believe this!!!! Those who don't know the agenda behind forced emigration will whine and call me a racist! Vancouver is still a beautiful city with lots of parks,waterways,harbour,mountains,ocean,etc.It is similar to Seattle in many ways. They have filmed many movies,tv series there in the last 20 years. They call it Hollywood North. I lived in the West End for Expo 86. It was right where the action is. I was only 8 blks. from the site itself! That was the best year of my life! I had an apartment on the 16th floor with a SW view of English Bay, and Stanley Park. Very famous and wesome sunsets there! Also only a few blks away, was the small ferries that take you to Granville Island. There is a big market there and restaurants and theaters.I never drove my car while I lived there as everything was just outside the door! It is very crowded now, but I still like to stroll down Robson St. and Denman Ave.once in a while and check out the great variety of cafes and pubs. So you are in France now? Hugs, Celtic. bye bye :) Nick.


hehe before you croak! :D

omg, i think i need to take a wee bit of a break from the NWO type stuff, i actually thought for a second that you were serious about the new asia renaming...!!!!:D:D:D seriously i did! i went what§ new asia? OMG...oh ok, he's joking! Phew! :D:o

HONGCOUVER!

Wow it's a real out-door-sey life over there! Sounds great!

What was expo 86? :o Sounds fantastic but i have no idea what it is or was! Hey i'm just a relative young'un here!


That's how it is here too, everything is just by the door. we're right on the coast, well almost, 15-20 mins, around the border of france and italy. It's kool but a mental city! I love being by the sea though, really makes you see how wonderous nature is and helps you to pause from this crazy life, even from all the NWO stuff, sometimes it doesn't matter. It's just you, the one you love, the sea and the air in your lungs.

Aww shucks lol you've gotten me all romantic now!

goodnight and god bless ;)

nickatnoon61
14-08-2007, 10:01 PM
hehe before you croak! :D

omg, i think i need to take a wee bit of a break from the NWO type stuff, i actually thought for a second that you were serious about the new asia renaming...!!!!(= seriously i did! i went what§ new asia? OMG...oh ok, he's joking! Phew! :D:o

HONGCOUVER!

Wow it's a real out-door-sey life over there! Sounds great!

What was expo 86? :o Sounds fantastic but i have no idea what it is or was! Hey i'm just a relative young'un here!


That's how it is here too, everything is just by the door. we're right on the coast, well almost, 15-20 mins, around the border of france and italy. It's kool but a mental city! I love being by the sea though, really makes you see how wonderous nature is and helps you to pause from this crazy life, even from all the NWO stuff, sometimes it doesn't matter. It's just you, the one you love, the sea and the air in your lungs.

Aww shucks lol you've gotten me all romantic now!

goodnight and god bless ;)

Celtic said: Aww shucks lol you've gotten me all romantic now!


That's part of me Irish charm Celtic!!!:eek: I guess you are familiar with the Irish foreplay....Irish accent from across the room: "brace yerself Mary!!!!"(= D Expo 86 (1986)was the Worlds Fair Exhibition. It was a hoot,people from all over the world there to party, and spend all their money! yeah I was kidding about the rename of BC (New Asia)(= Where are you at in France? Sounds balmy, Riviera-ish!!! I have seen some breathtaking scenes of France on "Smart Travels". It is in Hi -Def, and almost like being there, without the French attitude!!!!:eek: ha ha ! There were some towns that are preserved in Medieval style with absolutely no modern structures at all! Like going back in time! That is romantic!:p This is neato eh,Celtic! Corresponding with like-minds all around the world! The net is too kool that way!!! bcnya....Nick :)

celtic isis
15-08-2007, 03:49 PM
Celtic said: Aww shucks lol you've gotten me all romantic now!


That's part of me Irish charm Celtic!!!:eek: I guess you are familiar with the Irish foreplay....Irish accent from across the room: "brace yerself Mary!!!!"(= D Expo 86 (1986)was the Worlds Fair Exhibition. It was a hoot,people from all over the world there to party, and spend all their money! yeah I was kidding about the rename of BC (New Asia)(= Where are you at in France? Sounds balmy, Riviera-ish!!! I have seen some breathtaking scenes of France on "Smart Travels". It is in Hi -Def, and almost like being there, without the French attitude!!!!:eek: ha ha ! There were some towns that are preserved in Medieval style with absolutely no modern structures at all! Like going back in time! That is romantic!:p This is neato eh,Celtic! Corresponding with like-minds all around the world! The net is too kool that way!!! bcnya....Nick :)


hehe nick!

brace yerself mary!!!! OMG so funny! lol

yep that's why i found myself a frenchman lol ;) no offence to any of the wonderfully deep and romantic irish men on here, well if you're on here than you're already different to the usual. :o

Yep, i tell ya, there's no flies on you are there, i am riviera-ish :o

You're right, France is a breathtakingly beautiful country and it's full of medieval villages! hehe
I've been to quite a few of them now, EZE is the most beautiful, the way it's built perched right atop the top of the mountain/hill, with the sea all around.

I'm used to the attitude here now, french have a brilliant sense of humour, of course they are snobby and pretentious, thinking they've the best food, the best cars, the best wine, the best...nookie:eek: hehe but they're very welcoming and polite, everyone says hello to you when you're out and about each day...i love it now. And everything is so stylish, like they really go out on decor etc and making things special :)

less of the nookie now ok ;) oops it was me who said it! me bad!

kool expo 86 was a bit like woodstock, only without the bands?! and possibly the drugs and freeloving...ok people coming from all over the world, share their crafts and party, sounds good to me!

so nicky boy i better be going for now dude, hehe this thread is completely off topic now! I bet if the others knew what we were nattering about they'd be over too, everyone's sick of talking about freemasons!
lol ciao