masonic dmt

[shansuke]

the last book i read was dmt the spirit molicule,what a book a must read for anyone wanting to experience these other dimensions that can be accessed thru smoking this drug,if you can call it a drug.this drug has such life changing effects that its a conspiricy in its self,but for me its simply the gateway to the other side,fact.............ps also i read in the book that the tests where founded by the scottish rite of freemasons,because of ther intrest in scitzophrenia,ye right i believe that,not.more like keeping an eye on him incase he stumbled upon something that could be proven to the public.

[thoth]

the last book i read was dmt the spirit molicule,what a book a must read for anyone wanting to experience these other dimensions that can be accessed thru smoking this drug,if you can call it a drug.this drug has such life changing effects that its a conspiricy in its self,but for me its simply the gateway to the other side,fact.............ps also i read in the book that the tests where founded by the scottish rite of freemasons,because of ther intrest in scitzophrenia,ye right i believe that,not.more like keeping an eye on him incase he stumbled upon something that could be proven to the public.

Proper meditation can produce the same effects.

[skel8tor]

Proper meditation can produce the same effects.

Yeah I fkn agree with this!
DMT, Silvia Divinorum, LSD can be like landing on a roller coaster mid-ride, pretty scary. Wheras meditation can be like building the whole roller coaster ride yourself then having a go on it.

psI havn't had dmt or meditated to higher levels (yet & yet)

The book sounds good though. And no doubt there are meditation instructions on other threads Thoth?

[auron]

Proper meditation can produce the same effects.
So true! :)

But why spend 10 years meditating to levitate across the river, when you can walk over the bridge in 10 seconds? - Terence Mckenna

[soglad]

The way I see it. Drugs should be taken to show you the path, the all you have to do is seek it through meditation.

I have had some experiences during meditation that reminded me of mushrooms, like heart chakra explosions, nothing like the real thing though...

[shansuke]

sorry scel8tor but lsd and salvia divinorum are nothing like dmt.just because they are calssed as psychedelics does not mean that all psychedelics take you to the same place.i dont see how meditation can take you to these places when they are different,would it be a case of today ill meditate to reach the state of salvia and tomorow ill acheve the state of dmt,i think not.it would also be wise to remember that wee all have dmt inside our body,not lsd,or salvia for that matter.dmt is endogenous to us, meaning its created by our body,our brain seeks it out every night and our pineal gland creates it,its like food for the brain in the same way glucose is.without dmt ther woud be no us,like without blood ther would be no us.........you see this is a verry tall order for a drug to have........and ps scel8tor never mind the book, you wanna try the real thing before commenting,not that i would want anyone messing with a class a.......wait a minute that means were all drug carriers.....shit who made these rules.

[auron]

:)

[clipwip]

the last book i read was dmt the spirit molicule,what a book a must read for anyone wanting to experience these other dimensions that can be accessed thru smoking this drug,if you can call it a drug.this drug has such life changing effects that its a conspiricy in its self,but for me its simply the gateway to the other side,fact.............ps also i read in the book that the tests where founded by the scottish rite of freemasons,because of ther intrest in scitzophrenia,ye right i believe that,not.more like keeping an eye on him incase he stumbled upon something that could be proven to the public.

I read most of the book quite a while ago. Maybe the whole thing (I read it non-sequentially). I don't recall seeing anything about Scottish Rite Freemasonry. Where does it say that? When I was really into psychedelics I never could get my hands on the supposed "Holy Grail" of them all, DMT. Hard as shit to find. Tried to grow the phalaris grass but shit didn't pan out. Also, I don't recall the book having come to any conclusions as to when or whether or not our pineal gland secretes DMT during sleep or any other time. By the way, your writing is sloppy and nearly illegible. Is English your native language? It's not like it takes more than a split second to type legibly.

[shansuke]

hi clipwip,sorry about the writing its a major problem,i dont post mutch because of this.it tells you at the start of the book when he is trying to get the funds to do the testing,and also near the end when the freemasons withdraw ther investment because of bad publicity about the tests.as for how the pineal gland works,yes he came to the conclusion that the pineal makes dmt while asleep,its exactly how mutch gets released that could not be mesured.my friend has a loan of the book at the moment but when i get it back i will quote these pages to you.and as for phalaris grass,i wouldnt bother.phalaris grass contains more 5meo dmt than nn dmt,and a few other nasty things to.mimosa hostilis root bark is the one you want if you want to extract..............again sorry about the writing.

[clipwip]

hi clipwip,sorry about the writing its a major problem,i dont post mutch because of this.it tells you at the start of the book when he is trying to get the funds to do the testing,and also near the end when the freemasons withdraw ther investment because of bad publicity about the tests.as for how the pineal gland works,yes he came to the conclusion that the pineal makes dmt while asleep,its exactly how mutch gets released that could not be mesured.my friend has a loan of the book at the moment but when i get it back i will quote these pages to you.and as for phalaris grass,i wouldnt bother.phalaris grass contains more 5meo dmt than nn dmt,and a few other nasty things to.mimosa hostilis root bark is the one you want if you want to extract..............again sorry about the writing.

Well, really I can't be fucking with hallucinogens anymore. Too many meds and supposed mental problems. Legal system doesn't help either. Wish we truly did live in a free world with a true Shamanic tradition. Someday...

Would still like the citations, though. Sorry to sound nasty about the writing. I really don't care. You shouldn't let it hinder your posts. Sounds like you have some fascinating interests you should share.

[bennett211085]

does anyone know if I can obtain dmt without leaving the country? (uk).

[shansuke]

the good thing about elfspice is youve gotta learn about it before you can obtain it.this elliminates the kids and the buzz junkies.all you need is google.ps cheers for the vote of confidence clipwip.

[ho1ogram]

I was in a bookshop today and checked this book out, it seems pretty interesting.

There are chapter summaries here: http://www.rickstrassman.com/dmt/chaptersummaries.html

There's some interesting stuff on the pineal gland and dmt on the net: http://www.google.com/search?q=pineal+gland+dmt&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLD

And fluoride accumulates in the pineal gland... http://www.google.com/search?q=pineal+gland+fluoride&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLD

Hmmmm.......

[dmt head]

Lo and Behold Ive read this book:D, unfuckinbeleivable like seriously, he talks about the quantum physics of it all, he uses a TV as an analogy, like how were tuned to this frequency as Icke says, and DMT can take you to different stations :eek:, he says like were tuned to this station in a sense and when a TV's all snowy thats it in its natural state, which some people got to in his experiments, maybe thats what happened to Icke full of aya!

I was actually talking about meditation VS DMT/psychedelics with my brother the other week and as shansuke said you cant meditate and think I want a DMT trip today and ill have a salvia one tomorrow as auron quoted mckenna why wait ten years when it can happen in 10 seconds ;) heres mckenna talking bout it,

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Peace and Love

[auron]

:D

Damn right mate!

[barbitone]

I'm fortunate enough to have some DMT on me right now.......it's so damn good!:D It's just the smoking mix though. Which is a blend of various plants like passion-fruit flower etc, which has been soaked in DMT.

It is mostly body feeling more than visuals. I think it could be that MEO-5 DMT or whatever....not nn DMT.

I couldn't recommend it more! It feels so natural compared to the regular drug experience. No grinding teeth or come down....just bliss.:) And if anything it will only improve your health! I've never heard a single negative attribute about it. All that can really happen is that you might get scared really. Which usually only teaches you more....

FIND SOME DMT AND GET INTO THE STUFF!!:D

[auron]

FIND SOME DMT AND GET INTO THE STUFF!!:D
Most certainly! :)

[dmt head]

Somebody posted this on www.dmt-nexus.com

The only lasting effects of DMT that I can see is OBSESSION. Since the first time I smoked DMT, not a minute has gone by without me thinking about it. I think about it all day, write about it in these forums, talk about it with my friends, extract it in my kitchen, DREAM about it, write songs and draw pictures about it, seek out DMT-inspired music, etc, etc, etc. I'm not addicted, I'm obsessed.

Someone was asking about a hangover from it and somone replied with this lol, Ive been like that since the first time I had it, really quite obsessed in a way, though I do advise you have a sitter ;)

[thoth]

sorry scel8tor but lsd and salvia divinorum are nothing like dmt.just because they are calssed as psychedelics does not mean that all psychedelics take you to the same place.i dont see how meditation can take you to these places when they are different,would it be a case of today ill meditate to reach the state of salvia and tomorow ill acheve the state of dmt,i think not.it would also be wise to remember that wee all have dmt inside our body,not lsd,or salvia for that matter.dmt is endogenous to us, meaning its created by our body,our brain seeks it out every night and our pineal gland creates it,its like food for the brain in the same way glucose is.without dmt ther woud be no us,like without blood ther would be no us.........you see this is a verry tall order for a drug to have........and ps scel8tor never mind the book, you wanna try the real thing before commenting,not that i would want anyone messing with a class a.......wait a minute that means were all drug carriers.....shit who made these rules.



I know so! Through experience. The shit I have experienced during meditation tops ANY psychadelic I have taken, by far! What is the difference between dmt from the pineal and the shit you take orally? I bet the kind your brain produces is better and safer than the sythetics. You can start off as high as you can handle, or as hard as you can concentrate. Each time I could go higher and higher, but its a little scary and can last long periods of time, oh yes. You can be doing it and open up your eyes and still have the reaction going on. Its the real deal.

[dmt head]

Can I ask thoth if youv tried DMT? Cos its nothing like other psychedelics, Ive not tried ayahuasca or any other orally active DMT Ive only smoked the crystals and its nothing like any mushrooms or LSD ive had in the past its beyond :eek: :D

Im really interested in trying meditation never tried it before but I find it hard to imagine personally how you can get to crazy ridiculous worlds by meditating the way you can with DMT.

[montag]

Would still like the citations, though. .
"A generous research grant from the Scottish Rite Foundation for
Schizophrenia Research helped establish the earliest phases of the DMT
project's scientific merit. Later, more substantial funding for the DMT
and psilocybin research came from the National Institute on Drug Abuse,
a division of the U.S. National Institutes of Health.1 " - Page 10

[mada88]

Joe Rogan talks about DMT - YouTube

Everybody trips on DMT every night! HA HA everyones a druggy. It's even more funny when you think about the people who are against drugs! It's like a wet fish slap in there faces.
Isn't the pineal gland (the third eye) the part of the brain that is attacked the most by things like aspartame? Isn't it the part that does connect us to the other dimensions?

[clipwip]

"A generous research grant from the Scottish Rite Foundation for
Schizophrenia Research helped establish the earliest phases of the DMT
project's scientific merit. Later, more substantial funding for the DMT
and psilocybin research came from the National Institute on Drug Abuse,
a division of the U.S. National Institutes of Health.1 " - Page 10

thanks.