kblood
30-07-2007, 05:11 PM
Hi everyone. I just found this forum and some of the ideas of David Icke very recently. Nice to finally find so many likeminded people :) Very interesting discussions going on here :cool:
To explain this best I will start with how I first experienced, what I realised while reading this forum, is best explained as oneness. At the age of 14 or 15 I fell in love with a girl for the first time. I didnt talk much with her and didnt really know her that well, but I liked the feeling. After having trouble sleeping for several days my mind was spinning around with thoughts about "why am I here" and all these other questions about what life really is. One night I projected this "being in love" feeling on the world instead. I great sensation of clarity came over me, and I felt like everything was possible. The kind of feeling I think everyone have tried having at some point, that you can take on all of the world by yourself. At the same time I felt connected to everything. Not just me connected to everything around me, but everything around me being connected as well. I was ecstatic with this new sensation and was wondering what to do with it. How would I make the most of it?
At first, while feeling connected to the oneness, I thought about trying to levitate, using telekinesis or whatever since it felt like everything was possible. I felt as if that was something not comprehendable for me, so not possible, but was possible to begin getting more knowledge about this. So I began what might be channeling. I thought about questions about life and why all is, and it all felt obvious and simple. Logical, purposefull and very beautifull. I have had this feeling of oneness a few times since as well, and I have never used drugs to get to it, but from what I have read, it does seem that some have been able to use drugs as a shortcut to this state of mind. But with drugs I think there is a danger of being decieved by the drugs effects, and also the bodys reaction to the oneness might be stronger. After feeling everything around you to be so great, full of love and brilliant, the after effect for me have several times been a great feeling of emptiness. Being cynical and insignificant for periods of time. Making the waves of your emotions and brainwaves. This is probably avoidable as well. Maybe you can just make do with being emotionally numb for some time, instead of becomming depressed, but I think some kind of opposite emotional reaction is going to happen.
After having the feeling of oneness, my curiosity for it begun. What could I do with what I found out? Was it real or just some emotional trip? Was it divine? It felt divine, but not condemning or limiting. If I felt any restrictions, they were my own. That is what I have come to believe since. That our restrictions is the restrictions and boundaries we have come to believe in and depend on. This has been a hobby of mine to investigate and experiment with it ever since. After reading and seeing some of David Icke's works, and reading a good part of this forum, I have gotten more words to describe my experiences and discoveries while experimenting and researching this.
My description of the oneness:
At one time I was told that there is no time. I knew it to be true when I heard it, but I have been pondering on this fact ever since, and the implications it brings with it.
The oneness is timeless because time is simply one of the things that came out of it at the "beginning" of time. Some say we live in a 3D dimensions, some say it is some other #D dimension. I think to say our dimension is 3D is to simplify it too much. Time is also a dimension so we are at least in the 4th dimension. I see this oneness to be one dimensional, and therefore like a prism that the other dimensions are connected by. If time, the universe, souls and spirits are infinite, it means that there cannot be a beginning or end of time or any of these. If there was it wouldnt be infinite. Still I will claim the oneness to be the beginning and the end of time.
David Icke tells about the Illuminati and how they decieve us, like many others have done as well. At least all those researching the Illuminati agrees that they are the top or tops of their own pyramid or pyramids. To make a lie and make it a good and believeable lie, then you need to hide it in a truth or many truths. The best lies are hidden in 90% or more of truth I would say. This is what I believe goes for just about everything in this world. It is probably all at least 90% true. I dont believe that the world is a matrix that is here to decieve us. We are here to learn and evolve, and to believe everything is an illusion is one way of looking at it, but the way I see it, to believe in matter and the laws of physics are just good and true as the former. Just different versions of the truth ;)
In some ways I have to disagree with David Icke. Maybe there is the Illuminati and maybe they are doing well on their agenda to accomplish the new world order. This doesnt make the world an evil place or a hell, this just makes the world twosided. These illuminati might have decieved us for a long time, but they are forced to make true and good things to further their goals. They are forced to hide their agenda or agenda's in truths. They then distort the truths and try to decieve us by hiding lies in what even our intuition tells us is true. What the Illuminati has done has alot of good to it as well the way I see it. Wether they meant to or not, making us live in these systems of control makes life somewhat simpler. To have a police and armies is necesary as well, since I dont believe the Illuminati to be the only ones making wars. If we had anarchy we would have even more wars than we have now. The difference now is maybe that the Illuminati has more control of where and when wars happen, and what is to come out of these wars. Still they cant control how we all have goodness in us, that we usually try to cause good in the world. To have police fighting crime is something I wouldnt like to be without, since they should want to make good come out of being police. To keep peace, and make sure that people dont impose too much on each other or be violent to each other. Maybe they sometimes arent doing this job well, and maybe some of the police around the world is corrupt, but they still have to do some good while being cops.
And even with all the world around moving on and changing at all times, even with all these forces that might be trying to decieve us, what I see is that we still find enlightenment. We are still able to use our intuition to decide for ourselves what we define for ourselves as truth and lies, real and illusion. And I my experiences so far has "shown" me that this isnt really a prison. I have felt being locked in this body to be a curse, but I have come to see it as a blessing. We are still able to connect to where we probably came from, and maybe even travel across the dimensions. We are in fact capable of "bending" the rules. To alter the laws of physics around us. The most obvious evidence for this is to see the monks and whatever that use chi, and there are many other ways as well to discover this. It would be nice to learn how to use this chi someday, but I have my own ways of not being harmed physically ;) Or at least not least change how the harm affects me and my body.
Im looking forward to see how you all respond to this :rolleyes: I hope you like how I tried to expain it and find some truth to it.
To explain this best I will start with how I first experienced, what I realised while reading this forum, is best explained as oneness. At the age of 14 or 15 I fell in love with a girl for the first time. I didnt talk much with her and didnt really know her that well, but I liked the feeling. After having trouble sleeping for several days my mind was spinning around with thoughts about "why am I here" and all these other questions about what life really is. One night I projected this "being in love" feeling on the world instead. I great sensation of clarity came over me, and I felt like everything was possible. The kind of feeling I think everyone have tried having at some point, that you can take on all of the world by yourself. At the same time I felt connected to everything. Not just me connected to everything around me, but everything around me being connected as well. I was ecstatic with this new sensation and was wondering what to do with it. How would I make the most of it?
At first, while feeling connected to the oneness, I thought about trying to levitate, using telekinesis or whatever since it felt like everything was possible. I felt as if that was something not comprehendable for me, so not possible, but was possible to begin getting more knowledge about this. So I began what might be channeling. I thought about questions about life and why all is, and it all felt obvious and simple. Logical, purposefull and very beautifull. I have had this feeling of oneness a few times since as well, and I have never used drugs to get to it, but from what I have read, it does seem that some have been able to use drugs as a shortcut to this state of mind. But with drugs I think there is a danger of being decieved by the drugs effects, and also the bodys reaction to the oneness might be stronger. After feeling everything around you to be so great, full of love and brilliant, the after effect for me have several times been a great feeling of emptiness. Being cynical and insignificant for periods of time. Making the waves of your emotions and brainwaves. This is probably avoidable as well. Maybe you can just make do with being emotionally numb for some time, instead of becomming depressed, but I think some kind of opposite emotional reaction is going to happen.
After having the feeling of oneness, my curiosity for it begun. What could I do with what I found out? Was it real or just some emotional trip? Was it divine? It felt divine, but not condemning or limiting. If I felt any restrictions, they were my own. That is what I have come to believe since. That our restrictions is the restrictions and boundaries we have come to believe in and depend on. This has been a hobby of mine to investigate and experiment with it ever since. After reading and seeing some of David Icke's works, and reading a good part of this forum, I have gotten more words to describe my experiences and discoveries while experimenting and researching this.
My description of the oneness:
At one time I was told that there is no time. I knew it to be true when I heard it, but I have been pondering on this fact ever since, and the implications it brings with it.
The oneness is timeless because time is simply one of the things that came out of it at the "beginning" of time. Some say we live in a 3D dimensions, some say it is some other #D dimension. I think to say our dimension is 3D is to simplify it too much. Time is also a dimension so we are at least in the 4th dimension. I see this oneness to be one dimensional, and therefore like a prism that the other dimensions are connected by. If time, the universe, souls and spirits are infinite, it means that there cannot be a beginning or end of time or any of these. If there was it wouldnt be infinite. Still I will claim the oneness to be the beginning and the end of time.
David Icke tells about the Illuminati and how they decieve us, like many others have done as well. At least all those researching the Illuminati agrees that they are the top or tops of their own pyramid or pyramids. To make a lie and make it a good and believeable lie, then you need to hide it in a truth or many truths. The best lies are hidden in 90% or more of truth I would say. This is what I believe goes for just about everything in this world. It is probably all at least 90% true. I dont believe that the world is a matrix that is here to decieve us. We are here to learn and evolve, and to believe everything is an illusion is one way of looking at it, but the way I see it, to believe in matter and the laws of physics are just good and true as the former. Just different versions of the truth ;)
In some ways I have to disagree with David Icke. Maybe there is the Illuminati and maybe they are doing well on their agenda to accomplish the new world order. This doesnt make the world an evil place or a hell, this just makes the world twosided. These illuminati might have decieved us for a long time, but they are forced to make true and good things to further their goals. They are forced to hide their agenda or agenda's in truths. They then distort the truths and try to decieve us by hiding lies in what even our intuition tells us is true. What the Illuminati has done has alot of good to it as well the way I see it. Wether they meant to or not, making us live in these systems of control makes life somewhat simpler. To have a police and armies is necesary as well, since I dont believe the Illuminati to be the only ones making wars. If we had anarchy we would have even more wars than we have now. The difference now is maybe that the Illuminati has more control of where and when wars happen, and what is to come out of these wars. Still they cant control how we all have goodness in us, that we usually try to cause good in the world. To have police fighting crime is something I wouldnt like to be without, since they should want to make good come out of being police. To keep peace, and make sure that people dont impose too much on each other or be violent to each other. Maybe they sometimes arent doing this job well, and maybe some of the police around the world is corrupt, but they still have to do some good while being cops.
And even with all the world around moving on and changing at all times, even with all these forces that might be trying to decieve us, what I see is that we still find enlightenment. We are still able to use our intuition to decide for ourselves what we define for ourselves as truth and lies, real and illusion. And I my experiences so far has "shown" me that this isnt really a prison. I have felt being locked in this body to be a curse, but I have come to see it as a blessing. We are still able to connect to where we probably came from, and maybe even travel across the dimensions. We are in fact capable of "bending" the rules. To alter the laws of physics around us. The most obvious evidence for this is to see the monks and whatever that use chi, and there are many other ways as well to discover this. It would be nice to learn how to use this chi someday, but I have my own ways of not being harmed physically ;) Or at least not least change how the harm affects me and my body.
Im looking forward to see how you all respond to this :rolleyes: I hope you like how I tried to expain it and find some truth to it.