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jimijams
11-02-2007, 08:13 AM
The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues as Alex Jones
goes totally fruitloop on his radio show. Audio and analysis.

Plus: A claimed survivor of the London 7/7 Bus Bombing is pushing
a wild story on an Alex Jones broadcast a few days ago.

And: Why the 9/11 CoverUp Will Come Apart at the Seams

http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209a.mp3

Listen and discuss..

roxanna
11-02-2007, 10:54 AM
thank you will see. cheers

jimijams
11-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Forty views and only a we'll see and a poorly edited photoshop attempt at humour..
Does'nt anybody have an opinion on this??

dinachick
11-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Very interesting view. I listened to only part of the audio and will download and finish as time permits. I found it very telling that he would allow the "Cuckoo, cuckoo, froot-loops, froot-loops!" caller to stay on line yet would rudely cut off other callers who might have had something interesting to say.

It is VERY clever of the Illuminati/Agenda to use him in this way, whether he was in on the game from day one or was bought over afterwards? I watched "Terrorstorm" and found it credible as well as "Loose Change". Think how confused the masses will be when they realize the alternative information sources are NOT reliable at all, so where do they turn to, to get honest information of what is going on in their world around them? I had at one time even read that David Icke was disinfo as well as Alan Watt, who also had alot of interesting things to say.

There seems to be "If you can't beat them , join them" campaign here and it is very cleverly done! I think now one can listen to these people what they have to say, but really feel in their gut what is truth and recognise when their information is being manipulated. Look inside yourself for your answers I guess. I am not still enough to meditate effectively and get clear answers at this point ( two young ones running around in the house - busy with other things). This is important people be aware of their info sources being manipulated in this way. Thanks for the heads up on this!;)

tonto is a faggot
11-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Forty views and only a we'll see and a poorly edited photoshop attempt at humour..
Does'nt anybody have an opinion on this??

the poor editing is the whole point :o

jimijams
12-02-2007, 12:58 AM
Very interesting view. I listened to only part of the audio and will download and finish as time permits. I found it very telling that he would allow the "Cuckoo, cuckoo, froot-loops, froot-loops!" caller to stay on line yet would rudely cut off other callers who might have had something interesting to say.

It is VERY clever of the Illuminati/Agenda to use him in this way, whether he was in on the game from day one or was bought over afterwards? I watched "Terrorstorm" and found it credible as well as "Loose Change". Think how confused the masses will be when they realize the alternative information sources are NOT reliable at all, so where do they turn to, to get honest informatin of what is going on in their world around them? I had at one time even read that David Icke was disinfo as well as Alan Watt, who also had alot of interesting things to say.

There seems to be "If you can't beat them , join them" campaign here and it is very cleverly done! I think now one can listen to these people what they have to say, but really feel in their gut what is truth and recognise when their information is being manipulated. Look inside yourself for your answers I guess. I am not still enough to meditate effectively and get clear answers at this point ( two young ones running around in the house - busy with other things). This is important people be aware of their info sources being manipulated in this way. Thanks for the heads up on this!;)
Thanks for the reply, I haven't listened to Jones for a couple of years now for the reasons put forth in the audio..

I was at one stage a subscriber to Prison Planet, I found Jones's rants entertaining but soon tired of them..

Whether or not he is an agent I believe he has the ability to damage the truth movement because he comes across as your typical 'loony conspiracy theorist' promoting fear and dumbing down a very serious topic..

The Rush Limbaugh of the conspiracy world IMO..

jimijams
12-02-2007, 04:47 AM
Forty views and only a we'll see and a poorly edited photoshop attempt at humour..
Does'nt anybody have an opinion on this??
Oh dear, another deleted post..

Having a poor sense of humor seems to be a no no..

lappitypup
12-02-2007, 06:53 AM
Good show, I have listened to quite a few of them from Break For News, and he gives a very good analysis of what Jones has been doing - all the time selling water filters and gold and gas masks and all the rest of it. This is sadly not to be unexpected, the entire Patriot Short Wave Radio system was set up as an Intelligence Front - but of course, not now? I mean, he's a man of god, right?

jimijams
12-02-2007, 07:29 AM
Good show, I have listened to quite a few of them from Break For News, and he gives a very good analysis of what Jones has been doing - all the time selling water filters and gold and gas masks and all the rest of it. This is sadly not to be unexpected, the entire Patriot Short Wave Radio system was set up as an Intelligence Front - but of course, not now? I mean, he's a man of god, right?
Yep Fintan's definitely one of the good guy's, no bullshit or hype..

The question to ask yourself is if you were going to introduce someone to this field of knowledge who would you get them to listen AJ or Fintan..? Fintan also seems a lot more upbeat about the future intead of banging the drum of doom constantly..

Listen to AJ from ten years ago and it seems we have always been on the precipice of some impending doom or disaster..
The only thing he got right was predicting 911, funny that if it was anybody else you may suspect them of having inside knowledge..:cool:

I see from your post also that your a listener of Alan Watt, another one of the good guys IMHO..

garth
12-02-2007, 10:42 AM
The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues as Alex Jones
goes totally fruitloop on his radio show. Audio and analysis.

Plus: A claimed survivor of the London 7/7 Bus Bombing is pushing
a wild story on an Alex Jones broadcast a few days ago.

And: Why the 9/11 CoverUp Will Come Apart at the Seams

http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209a.mp3

Listen and discuss..

Just downloaded and listened to the show. Bloody hell, Jones is having a hellofa meltdown. Never felt good about him, there was something about him. Problably CIA mind-controlled for the job me thinks!

tk__
18-02-2007, 07:22 AM
It is VERY clever of the Illuminati/Agenda to use him in this way, whether he was in on the game from day one or was bought over afterwards? I watched "Terrorstorm" and found it credible as well as "Loose Change". Think how confused the masses will be when they realize the alternative information sources are NOT reliable at all, so where do they turn to, to get honest information of what is going on in their world around them? I had at one time even read that David Icke was disinfo as well as Alan Watt, who also had alot of interesting things to say.


i feel the same exact way. i dn't know who to trust anymore. i feel like i'm on an island.

oneofmany
18-02-2007, 02:57 PM
I never liked his rants but i thought his info was legit. who to trust,,,, nobody methinks:confused:

jimijams
19-02-2007, 02:58 AM
I never liked his rants but i thought his info was legit. who to trust,,,, nobody methinks:confused:
Thats the way disinfo works, you either use the truth and dilute it with misinformation to discredit the lot or manipulate it in a way that herds the more aware sheep in to a safer pen.

limelady
19-02-2007, 03:10 AM
Thats the way disinfo works, you either use the truth and dilute it with misinformation to discredit the lot or manipulate it in a way that herds the more aware sheep in to a safer pen.

I'm keeping an arms distance from Fintan Dunne for the very same reasons you've mentioned here. I've done a lot of listening to him in recent times and I'm not convinced this fella IS one of the good guys - he's a passive/aggressive and quite arrogant... and he DEFINITELY his own agenda too - mostly discrediting others! And hey, what's with all that Illuminati symbolism (flame/Liberty (queen semerimus) on his main page at Breakfornews.com? To me he's every bit the ranter he levels at others....like a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Use your intuition and don't be fooled by their carefully crafted words. ;)

LL

jimijams
19-02-2007, 03:19 AM
I'm keeping an arms distance from Fintan Dunne for the very same reasons you've mentioned here. I've done a lot of listening to him in recent times and I'm not convinced this fella IS one of the good guys - he's a passive/aggressive and quite arrogant... and he DEFINITELY his own agenda too - mostly discrediting others! And hey, what's with all that Illuminati symbolism (flame/Liberty (queen semerimus) on his main page at Breakfornews.com? To me he's every bit the ranter he levels at others....like a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Use your intuition and don't be fooled by their carefully crafted words. ;)

LL
Possibly, but I was already having my doubts about AJ long before Fintan outed him.

seamus
19-02-2007, 03:31 AM
it could be that AJ is under EM assault, but man, even when he is on even keel, he's just a notch-and-a-half too table-pounding, fist-banging, vein-bulging angry for me. That's not creative anger, that's destructive anger.


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limelady
19-02-2007, 03:41 AM
Possibly, but I was already having my doubts about AJ long before Fintan outed him.

Me too Jimi, but I'm thinking more along the same lines as seamus. I think Jones has been "got at" rather than him being a CIA fake right from the start, and because he's coming unstuck would be a GREAT reason for Dunne to use him mercilessly for the purpose of discrediting all others he calls CIA fakes. In fact, Dunne labels almost EVERYBODY (including Icke) trying to do an ounce of good to expose the agenda as a "CIA Fake"...... everybody that is except himself and his bunch of merry men over at his own forum.

Suss?

oneofmany
19-02-2007, 04:11 AM
This form of infiltration is totally insidious, because the dis-info is getting harder to spot everyday and the liars and obfuscaters of the truth are getting clinical with their work.

I just hope that recognising the patterns of the way these people work will be enough for the future.

When are the Sheeple going to wake up so the freedom revolution can get the bandwagon rolling on getting rid of control?

These constant mind games are giving me the shits :mad:

jimijams
19-02-2007, 04:22 AM
Me too Jimi, but I'm thinking more along the same lines as seamus. I think Jones has been "got at" rather than him being a CIA fake right from the start, and because he's coming unstuck would be a GREAT reason for Dunne to use him mercilessly for the purpose of discrediting all others he calls CIA fakes. In fact, Dunne labels almost EVERYBODY (including Icke) trying to do an ounce of good to expose the agenda as a "CIA Fake"...... everybody that is except himself and his bunch of merry men over at his own forum.

Suss?
The truth is we'll probably never know for sure, Jones may very well have good intentions but his message of fear and over the top ranting doesn't sit well with me. Also his high profile and promotion by the media makes me suspicous the TBTB are more than happy to assist him in spreading that message.

At the end of the day you can't totally trust any commentator whether that be AJ, Fintan or even Icke, they all have an important message, but it also needs constant reassessing to avoid merely swapping one belief system for another.

The only one person you can totally trust is your self as this is the only place where truth resides.

deca
19-02-2007, 12:48 PM
Think Alex is on overload. So much lies disinfo must be hard being him he has warned us for years and a lot is comming true.. Think it would be easy to feed him false storys that he would pick up and make more out of it than there is.
Think theres a lot of truth what he says But it gets easy to blame the elite nazis
for everything after a while.

john white
19-02-2007, 01:27 PM
I'm keeping an arms distance from Fintan Dunne for the very same reasons you've mentioned here. I've done a lot of listening to him in recent times and I'm not convinced this fella IS one of the good guys - he's a passive/aggressive and quite arrogant... and he DEFINITELY his own agenda too - mostly discrediting others! And hey, what's with all that Illuminati symbolism (flame/Liberty (queen semerimus) on his main page at Breakfornews.com? To me he's every bit the ranter he levels at others....like a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Use your intuition and don't be fooled by their carefully crafted words. ;)

LL

We've had a visit from Finton recently over at www.nineeleven.co.uk

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6997

Worth a look (6 pages)

edelweiss pirate
19-02-2007, 06:17 PM
Oh no not this again ARGGGHHHHHH!!!


BREAK FOR NEWS IS DISINFO...

According to Finton, David Icke, Rense, Alex Jones and every other researcher you can think of is a CIA fake... So I guess that must mean Fakey Finton is genuine? Did you know Davidicke.com is a CIA site? Nor did I but according to fakey Finton it is...

ARGGHHHHHHH !!!

Repeat after me: BREAK FOR NEWS IS DISINFO.

Please try not to forget this... it may save your life one day..

Check out the all seeing eye, some people will notice that straightaway but I guess others don't 'see' these things..

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3589/eyepv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Alex Jones is great get a grip peeps. Some Irish guy you've never heard of with a vaguely hypnotic brogue tells you that the one man who's done more than anyone to expose the NWO (which is REAL btw) and expose the lies behind 9-11 and garner public support to hold Bush accountable and suddenly he's fake?
Why?

Because fakey Finton says so? Right.. That's a bit ridiculous peeps... come on you won't last long if you're going to be so easily duped.. It's a long distance run that we're in, mental and physical endurance are required to see it through. Don't lower your guard for a second and don't be silly...

jimijams
19-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Repeat after me: BREAK FOR NEWS IS DISINFO.

I don't do oaths, but thanks for the offer.

intruder
19-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Alex Jones "appears" to have modeled himself after the late William Cooper who was MURDERED on Nov.6/01. Alot of people, including Art "BS" Bell and Alex Jones ran with the ball that Bill tossed.

Don't you find Jones' rants a tad tiring.............?

Besides, Jones wont even touch Holocaust Revisionism with a 6 million foot pole. At least David has had the courage to STAND UP for people like Ernst Zundel who is TRULY "THE MOST DANGEROUS SPEAKER IN THE WORLD".

There's ALOT riding in keeping the "holohoax" intact. Do you realize that neither Churchill (NEVER at a loss for words), DeGaulle, and Eisenhower fail to mention "the genocidal extermination of the Jews via gassing and cremotoria" in their memoirs? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Because the Zionist/Communist conspiracy was being extended....

can anyone explain why the "Communists" razed churches and spared synagogues....? I mean, we were told that they HATED that "opiate of the masses".....

hmmmmmmmm......................

jimijams
19-02-2007, 10:49 PM
Check out the all seeing eye, some people will notice that straightaway but I guess others don't 'see' these things..

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3589/eyepv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


If you want to get picky about page headers, then what do you make of this one?

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3561/dihead2cpq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

oneofmany
19-02-2007, 11:49 PM
Oh no not this again ARGGGHHHHHH!!!


BREAK FOR NEWS IS DISINFO...

According to Finton, David Icke, Rense, Alex Jones and every other researcher you can think of is a CIA fake... So I guess that must mean Fakey Finton is genuine? Did you know Davidicke.com is a CIA site? Nor did I but according to fakey Finton it is...

ARGGHHHHHHH !!!

Repeat after me: BREAK FOR NEWS IS DISINFO.

Please try not to forget this... it may save your life one day..

Check out the all seeing eye, some people will notice that straightaway but I guess others don't 'see' these things..

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3589/eyepv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Alex Jones is great get a grip peeps. Some Irish guy you've never heard of with a vaguely hypnotic brogue tells you that the one man who's done more than anyone to expose the NWO (which is REAL btw) and expose the lies behind 9-11 and garner public support to hold Bush accountable and suddenly he's fake?
Why?

Because fakey Finton says so? Right.. That's a bit ridiculous peeps... come on you won't last long if you're going to be so easily duped.. It's a long distance run that we're in, mental and physical endurance are required to see it through. Don't lower your guard for a second and don't be silly...

Is that even an eye? it looks a lot like a jet engine to me.
but jimi's got a point. try again!

jenkalichen
20-02-2007, 12:36 AM
here in Phoenix AZ there is an invitation to pay $139.00 to attend a '9/11 was an inside job symposium'. You are then asked to join their group. Why the hefty price? It must be run by the greedy jews-maybe those who orchestrated 9/11 and they want your name for the list of who gets sent to the their concentration camps first.
The next 9/11 will be the start of a civil war in the US, covertly prearranged by Israel. Israel another name for the Secret Gov who controls (destroys) the US.

oneofmany
20-02-2007, 04:21 AM
here in Phoenix AZ there is an invitation to pay $139.00 to attend a '9/11 was an inside job symposium'. You are then asked to join their group. Why the hefty price? It must be run by the greedy jews-maybe those who orchestrated 9/11 and they want your name for the list of who gets sent to the their concentration camps first.
The next 9/11 will be the start of a civil war in the US, covertly prearranged by Israel. Israel another name for the Secret Gov who controls (destroys) the US.
Israel = Is...Isis ra...Egyptian sun god el....well just check this out http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415

just so you know.

$139 is a high price for truth IMHO, better to find the truth for free

limelady
20-02-2007, 06:37 AM
Yeah, those who say they are "exposing" the agenda all have some Illuminati symbolism on their sites for sure, so this in itself is really no measure of the intent - the symbolism is all relevant to the subject matter.

I agree too that Alex Jones is a rather loud ranter, and personally I find him VERY tiring and somewhat negative, to the point where I no longer listen to him, but as has been mentioned here, he has done more (at least vocally) to expose the agenda than anybody else, and what better person can you think of to set up for a BIG fall at this time? Just imagine how Jones having a breakdown would work against the citizen's 9-11 initiative....and possibly undermine the cohesiveness of the 9-11 truth movement as a whole?

While I don't like Jones style of presenting, I do believe he is currently being set-up to take a fall, but NOT because he's a CIA fake, more likely because the REAL CIA fakes are gunning for him. And while I happen to agree with edelweiss pirate's views about Break For news site and their "lynch-mob' tactics, its really only because my own intuition smells a rat here, therefore I respectfully allow others to make up their own minds.

limelady
20-02-2007, 07:03 AM
We've had a visit from Finton recently over at www.nineeleven.co.uk

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6997

Worth a look (6 pages)

Thanks for the link JW. I took a look and all I can say is hmmmmmmm. Dunne sure is going to a lot of trouble isn't he?

And well, whatever happens now, Dunne has already quite immeasurable damge to Alex Jones, and many will now be doubting the man's sanity, sincerity, and credibility, all the while we're left hanging about exactly WHO is behind this so-called "planned demolition".....and why.

The programming is all in the words folks.... just look at the words they are using and you will know what's RERALLY going down here. ;)

jimijams
20-02-2007, 09:42 AM
One thing I would like to say in Fintans defence is that he did go to Johns forum to answer the criticisms leveled at him and to debate his theories, he is also easily accessable on his own forum. This is something you will not see many other researchers doing.

jimijams
20-02-2007, 09:56 AM
Israel = Is...Isis ra...Egyptian sun god el....well just check this out http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415

just so you know.

$139 is a high price for truth IMHO, better to find the truth for free
That is one interpretation reseachers like Jordan Maxwell expouse, but there is also another which makes more sense to me.

According to Gnostic teachings the true meaning of Israel is the people who see god which translated to Hebrew is Ish - ra he - el.
Ish meaning people, ra he means to see or seeing and el of course is god.

Now the interesting thing about this interpretation is that the Israelites who are mentioned in the old testament as being Gods chosen people are not the Jewish race in particular, but rather the initiates, or the people who know God through direct spiritual experience.

Very much off topic but I think worth a mention.:)

john white
20-02-2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the link JW. I took a look and all I can say is hmmmmmmm. Dunne sure is going to a lot of trouble isn't he?

And well, whatever happens now, Dunne has already quite immeasurable damge to Alex Jones, and many will now be doubting the man's sanity, sincerity, and credibility, all the while we're left hanging about exactly WHO is behind this so-called "planned demolition".....and why.

The programming is all in the words folks.... just look at the words they are using and you will know what's RERALLY going down here. ;)

I thought you'd like to see it limelady. What cracks me up is that, baring his wild "COINTELPRO" accusations, the only thing people seem to find "useful" in Finton's POV is the idea that there is a UN component to 9/11. UN, as in global authority. And theres Alex Jones consistantly putting out that 9/11 was pulled off by "the globalists". So theres finton, effectively saying exactly the same thing (becuase any cabal of globalists infiltrating the US government would most certainly be infiltrating the UN!). As is so often the case, one couldn't make it up

As far as this kind of material dragging Alex jones down, well of course I've seen the same thing for years on years on end being attempted with our Dave. I dont worry about it tbh: this stuff only has credibility amongst those who havnt got the hang of doing their own thinking, often whose comfort zones are looking for any old excuse to dismiss the source of psychic stress informing them that "their cosy world view bubble is an illusion".... Well, everyones welcome to put their head back in the sand if they wish... equally, everybody's gotta learn sometime!

jimijams
20-02-2007, 10:40 AM
this stuff only has credibility amongst those who havnt got the hang of doing their own thinking, often whose comfort zones are looking for any old excuse to dismiss the source of psychic stress informing them that "their cosy world view bubble is an illusion".... Well, everyones welcome to put their head back in the sand if they wish... equally, everybody's gotta learn sometime!
Don't forget also John that you too are living in the illusion and hence creating a reality that suits your own beliefs.
I prefer to leave it to the individual to work it out themselves without appearing to have all the answers myself.

edelweiss pirate
20-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Just to remind you that if you support Finton then you must necessarily believe that David Icke is a CIA fake...

Finton has been very very clear about this point for at least a year...

You really cannot support both Icke AND Finton unless you are training for double-think based induced schizophrenia...

oneofmany
20-02-2007, 11:34 AM
Just to remind you that if you support Finton then you must necessarily believe that David Icke is a CIA fake...

Finton has been very very clear about this point for at least a year...

You really cannot support both Icke AND Finton unless you are training for double-think based induced schizophrenia...

How about, you take away the info that you think is right, and leave the rest.
just because he says that David works for the CIA, doesn't mean you have to believe it.

jimijams
20-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Just to remind you that if you support Finton then you must necessarily believe that David Icke is a CIA fake...

Finton has been very very clear about this point for at least a year...

You really cannot support both Icke AND Finton unless you are training for double-think based induced schizophrenia...

I actually don't support either of them, why should I have to take sides anyway?
It is just information, besides I have never heard Fintan of directly accusing Icke of working for the CIA. He is on his list of fakes, but Fintan also says that these sites are also knowingly or unknowingly working for the CIA.
Who knows anything for sure, I certainly don't and I doubt you do too. Like oneofmany said, take what you want and leave the rest. I don't right AJ off completely, I was a subscriber to PPTV for quite a while but somehow out grew him as I do with most researchers eventually.

You obviously are an AJ supporter and there is nothing wrong with that in my book if that is what suits you, but please stop trying to put words in to my mouth by saying who I do or do not or should support.

john white
20-02-2007, 01:27 PM
Don't forget also John that you too are living in the illusion and hence creating a reality that suits your own beliefs.
I prefer to leave it to the individual to work it out themselves without appearing to have all the answers myself.

Well, thats why I said this stuff is only an issue for folks who havnt got the hang of doing their own thinking!

(this means we agree! always nice)

jimijams
20-02-2007, 01:39 PM
Well, thats why I said this stuff is only an issue for folks who havnt got the hang of doing their own thinking!

(this means we agree! always nice)

lol.. fair enough

paulski
20-02-2007, 02:27 PM
The only one person you can totally trust is your self as this is the only place where truth resides.

Absolutley.
Unfortunately this is an area that is awash with disinfo, The Illuminati are extremely clever and need to have their agent provoceteurs inside to stir things up. Some cattle fall for all the Bull that is spread like muck, but as Jimi
said, go with the gut and see if it 'feels' right.

Alex Jones unfortunately did not come across on the programme very well, and am not sure that this use of anger will attract the kind of people to him that is hugely beneficial to bringing the house of cards down.

intruder
20-02-2007, 03:46 PM
some may think that I beat a "dead horse"......

There is ONE, and ONLY ONE issue that really seems to bring on the wrath of preachers, "historians", and govts. alike.....and that issue is to challenge the veracity of the "holocaust". It's odd that the induced famines in the Ukraine have been called a "harvest of sorrow". Yet gods "chosen people" experienced.....You know that at the end of WWII the communists who "liberated" Auschwitz imposed their habitual code of secrecy. The "holocaust" was not mentioned until 1969 at the Eichmann trial. Consider Ernst Zundel, and how Mr. Icke has been able to see through the sham.
Consider that an almost PhD. chemist, Germar Rudolf, was denied his PhD. after publishing "Dissecting The Holocaust". Rudolf is also in a German prison for "denial"

C'mon people, you KNOW what kind of reaction would be invoked in YOU if you were to be jailed, and put in solitary for denying Christ. David can do this with impunity, and it IS his right. I can deny evolution, god, Stalin, you name it and no trouble will befall me. Now, denying Allah WOULD be dangerous in some countries....however.

People rave on about how the Allies actually KNEW what was happening in the "death camps", yet they chose to ignore it.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????

Death camps with row after row of bunkers goes against the typical German stereotype of habitual "German efficiency".....why wouldn't they just shoot them as they arrived on the trains. "The Final Solutiuon" was to be a resolution of the "Jewish problem" within Germany, NOT a mass genocide.

One day...the German children WILL wake UP and realize that the real Holocaust was inflincted on them via the Lindmann Plan of March '42.
Today, Germany remains an occupied country, and NO peace treaty with the USA has been signed.

jerUSAlem

edelweiss pirate
21-02-2007, 09:15 PM
I actually don't support either of them, why should I have to take sides anyway?
It is just information, besides I have never heard Fintan of directly accusing Icke of working for the CIA. He is on his list of fakes, but Fintan also says that these sites are also knowingly or unknowingly working for the CIA.
Who knows anything for sure, I certainly don't and I doubt you do too. Like oneofmany said, take what you want and leave the rest. I don't right AJ off completely, I was a subscriber to PPTV for quite a while but somehow out grew him as I do with most researchers eventually.

You obviously are an AJ supporter and there is nothing wrong with that in my book if that is what suits you, but please stop trying to put words in to my mouth by saying who I do or do not or should support.

Here it is:
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

And these are ALL CIA fakes according to Finton:

The CIA Fakes presented by BreakForNews.com
PsyOpNews.com and Wagnews.Blogspot.com

airamericaradio.com
albasrah.net
aljazeera.net
aljazeera.com
almartinraw.com
americanfreepress.net
angieon911.com
antiwar.com
apfn.org
arcticbeacon.com


batr.org

bellaciao.org
bilderberg.org
blackboxvoting.org
bradblog.com
buzzflash.com

cloakanddagger.ca
coasttocoastam.com
conspiracyarchive.com
conspiracyplanet.com
commondreams.org
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Funny how Above top secret isn't there eh?

JimJams... I don't give a monkeys what nonsense you choose to support, just prefer you not to confuse the other decent people on here and muddy the waters with disinfo shills. 'kay.

jimijams
21-02-2007, 10:11 PM
Here it is:
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

And these are ALL CIA fakes according to Finton:



Funny how Above top secret isn't there eh?

JimJams... I don't give a monkeys what nonsense you choose to support, just prefer you not to confuse the other decent people on here and muddy the waters with disinfo shills. 'kay.
How very patronizing of you. How about we let the other 'decent' posters have access to all information and allow them to come to their own conclusions.

dondaz
21-02-2007, 10:54 PM
Check this latest on Fakey Finton

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212

Enjoy!

jimijams
05-03-2007, 10:41 AM
Bill Cooper had his doubts about Alex Jones and his message of fear seven years ago.
You can download Bill Coopers expose of Alex Jones and the Y2k hoax here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TJV5RB0X

Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5NNUB8Q

oneofmany
05-03-2007, 10:48 AM
how do you download from this site? I cant see a button or anything

don't worry I found it

DOH

klinker
05-03-2007, 12:42 PM
I wonder how many people try to open their eyes to discover what is going on in the world only to close their eyes again because the deeper they go into the rabit hole the more difficult it becomes to know who is telling the truth or what is real. In the end it's a head fuck that is best left alone.

edelweiss pirate
07-03-2007, 06:08 PM
It's the human disease mate... We all judge other people by our own criteria because we cannot judge people by their own criteria because that information is not available to us..

So we end up misjudging everyone... and out of a world of continual misunderstanding and misinformation, the bad guys build a world...

Still, any one researcher who would claim that ALL other researchers are fake is either fake or totally mad.

Anyone who follows him is even totally madder.

But then so are our leaders so you won't be alone. lol.

It's just adding 2 + 2.. It's that simple! But some people defend their nonsense because their sense of self is often tied up in that lie.

I sometimes think I must have entered the Twilight zone somewhere along the way..

jimijams
08-03-2007, 01:11 AM
Still, any one researcher who would claim that ALL other researchers are fake is either fake or totally mad.
You're missing the big picture here edelweiss. What about Alex Jones? What about Alex Jones? What about Alex Jones?
This is what I'm interested in discussing not Fintan Dunne. Would you like me to post a list of other researchers who have their doubts about Jones so you can call them mad too? Or would you care to address the question at hand, whats up with Alex Jones? He is a commercial broadcaster trading on fear, is this ok? He is given loads of free air time in the MSM to spruke his cause, doesn't this raise alarm bells? Does his insane ranting do anything to help bring new people in to this information? Or does it confirm their existing belief about tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I


Did you listen to Alex Jones's Y2k broadcast I posted? If not here it is again. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TJV5RB0X

Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5NNUB8Q

3ill
15-04-2007, 05:01 AM
The only open mind I don't know but truly trust is Grant Morrison. He's not a Conspiracy cat, but a magician, and really on point. Even David Icke worries me sometimes but yeah, never to the point of mistrust. AJ always seemed to have an agenda beyond truth in and of itself. I usually just try to read people as they speak, and go with my gut.

zedd
26-04-2007, 08:40 PM
So...infowars.com and prisonplanet.com are CIA but infowars.net and jonesreport.com aren't? Damn, Alex Jones must have a split personality, half being non-CIA and half being CIA. Does the non-CIA half know about the CIA half?

The thing about some people who believe in conspiracies is that they eventually go insane and beleve that literally everyone is part of the conspiracy.

Cleary the truth is that Alex Jones is an interdimensional shapeshifting Reptoid that manifests himself in our reality and feeds off of vibrational fields given off by the fear he induces. That is the most reasonable conclusion I can come to.

mikeproteau
29-04-2007, 07:10 AM
So...infowars.com and prisonplanet.com are CIA but infowars.net and jonesreport.com aren't? Damn, Alex Jones must have a split personality, half being non-CIA and half being CIA. Does the non-CIA half know about the CIA half?

The thing about some people who believe in conspiracies is that they eventually go insane and beleve that literally everyone is part of the conspiracy.

Cleary the truth is that Alex Jones is an interdimensional shapeshifting Reptoid that manifests himself in our reality and feeds off of vibrational fields given off by the fear he induces. That is the most reasonable conclusion I can come to.

hahahahhahalololol


fu*k all YALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 one alex is fo REAL

umbrex
01-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Never felt good about him, there was something about him.

Same here.

I have done alot of ressearch through the past year and ive only been on his site once and seen some random clips. Allways avoiding him, because he just didnt seem right. Crazy, dedicated and patriotic ..FUCK YEAH!!

But sincere ...nah.

cruise4
07-05-2007, 03:56 AM
Good show, I have listened to quite a few of them from Break For News, and he gives a very good analysis of what Jones has been doing - all the time selling water filters and gold and gas masks and all the rest of it. This is sadly not to be unexpected, the entire Patriot Short Wave Radio system was set up as an Intelligence Front - but of course, not now? I mean, he's a man of god, right?

Few people into making money from scams suggest you copy and distribute their DVD's for nothing.

Take Alex Jones over this creep any day!

bicycle
07-05-2007, 05:07 PM
Wow all these attacks on Alex Jones, he must be doing something right to have all this attention, i'll have to start listening to him again i think.

jimijams
13-05-2007, 10:03 AM
Wow all these attacks on Alex Jones, he must be doing something right to have all this attention, i'll have to start listening to him again i think.
Why did you stop listening?

amadeus
13-05-2007, 11:28 AM
Use your intuition and don't be fooled by their carefully crafted words. ;)


Couldn't agree more. My intuition tells me: AJ is ok, Fintan is creepy.Alex Jones' programs were the main reason I started waking up to reality. And look now at Bruce Willis, his awakening they say has a lot to do with him watching 'Martial Law' and 'Terrorstorm'. Of course AJ is a bit tiresome and soon you'll outgrow him. But his style is something that maybe a "sleeping" person can better relate to. I like to see AJ as the "big barking dog" who wakes the lambs up. The real education is then done by others.

Oh, by the way, has Fintan done anything else than discrediting other researchers? Any real and valuable research? I'd like to know...