N Korea nuclear crisis taken to new level

[jesuitsdidit]

Stepping up its rhetoric amid growing US pressure against the country, North Korea says it could use nuclear weapons "as a merciless offensive" if provoked.

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/Detail.aspx?id=97513&sectionid=351020405


N Korea nuclear crisis taken to new level
Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:54:13 GMT

Stepping up its rhetoric amid growing US pressure against the country, North Korea says it could use nuclear weapons "as a merciless offensive" if provoked.

"Our nuclear deterrent will be a strong defensive means ... as well as a merciless offensive means to deal a just retaliatory strike to those who touch the country's dignity and sovereignty even a bit," the official Korean Central News Agency quoted Pyongyang's state-run Minju Joson newspaper as saying.

The tough talk came as the US has been pushing for tougher measures against North Korea in recent weeks in response to the communist nation carrying out nuclear and short-range missile tests.

US President Barack Obama has said that "North Korea's actions over the last couple of months have been extraordinarily provocative", adding that Washington was not "intending to continue a policy of rewarding provocation".

On Sunday, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) briefed President Lee Myung-Bak on plans for a counter-attack on North Korea should Pyongyang fire missiles at ships controlled by the South.

"North Korea's firing of ground-to-ship missiles at our navy ships would prompt counter-attacks simultaneously from surface, air and sea," JCS chairman Kim Tae-Young said.

[jesuitsdidit]

so

all it takes 2 trigger ww3

is for 1 missile
to be fired
at 1 S Korean ship..


lots of ppl cd pull that off

dangerous times

[tracker]

Stepping up its rhetoric amid growing US pressure against the country, North Korea says it could use nuclear weapons "as a merciless offensive" if provoked.

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/Detail.aspx?id=97513&sectionid=351020405


N Korea nuclear crisis taken to new level
Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:54:13 GMT

Stepping up its rhetoric amid growing US pressure against the country, North Korea says it could use nuclear weapons "as a merciless offensive" if provoked.

"Our nuclear deterrent will be a strong defensive means ... as well as a merciless offensive means to deal a just retaliatory strike to those who touch the country's dignity and sovereignty even a bit," the official Korean Central News Agency quoted Pyongyang's state-run Minju Joson newspaper as saying.

The tough talk came as the US has been pushing for tougher measures against North Korea in recent weeks in response to the communist nation carrying out nuclear and short-range missile tests.

US President Barack Obama has said that "North Korea's actions over the last couple of months have been extraordinarily provocative", adding that Washington was not "intending to continue a policy of rewarding provocation".

On Sunday, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) briefed President Lee Myung-Bak on plans for a counter-attack on North Korea should Pyongyang fire missiles at ships controlled by the South.

"North Korea's firing of ground-to-ship missiles at our navy ships would prompt counter-attacks simultaneously from surface, air and sea," JCS chairman Kim Tae-Young said.

there is no crisis about this .
ITS ALL HYPE !

fine its OK for the westarn world to have weapons of mass destruction , and we have used them , but its not ok for others .
typical NWO thinking .

so far to date , only the west have used them .
one cannot argue with history and it proves we are more likely to use them than any other country .

the reason why there is so much hype because they are trying to justify why we should have another war , and besides , what THEY dont want is a country that can simply say "we have nukes too so piss off and dont tell us what to do"---------thats all .

thanks for the thread though , its good to have the heads up on the times .

:cool:

[anthony65]

Unbelievable to think that the absolutely and totally bogus Korean War of the early 1950's should still be "threatening" global peace.

The Korean War was manufactured by the globaists of the CFR and they sent American soldiers to needless deaths by refusing the American commander general MacArthur to fight the enemy in the way he felt fit.

One of the chief traitors was marshall of marshall plan fame and pearl harbour infamy...

And in Vietnam it was no different. American forces pushed into a conflict that wasn't necessary. A conflict that JFK wanted to end before he was murdered.

And then the American forces were obliged to fight with both hands tied behind their backs as they allowed the North Vietnames to be resupplied and watched as their government funded the soviets who passed on the funds to the north vietnamese.

and so the story continues and the world trembles...

And the sell outs, traitors and cowards of the media and security forces just watch this happen and do nothing.

And we are supposed to be fruit cakes?

[motleyhoo]

Regardless of who already has nuclear weapons, who has actually used them, or what conspiracies are afoot, I can assure everyone here that a nuclear North Korea is not a good thing for any of us. I don't know what the solution to the problem is, but I do know it's a problem.

What we have here is a closed, technologically backward country, that for years has deprived its people in favor of building one of the world's biggest armies, that is ruled over by a psychotic, oppressive regime, that condemns its own citizens for the slightest infraction against the state, and who has already shown time and time again that it is quite prepared to use the threat agression against its neighbors to get aid and concessions. In fact the govt of North Korea is the one of the very types of dictatorial govts that this forum is tasked with fighting. The day they get a bonafide nuclear weapons program up and running is the day they begin to threaten their neighbors or worse. The real question is, what are we prepared to do about it?

You have to ask yourself why a country that can barely feed and provide electricity for its people, and that has isolated itself from every other country the world, needs to be building nuclear warheads and firing missiles.

.

[decim]

Regardless of who already has nuclear weapons, who has actually used them, or what conspiracies are afoot, I can assure everyone here that a nuclear North Korea is not a good thing for any of us. I don't know what the solution to the problem is, but I do know it's a problem.

What we have here is a closed, technologically backward country, that for years has deprived its people in favor of building one of the world's biggest armies, that is ruled over by a psychotic, oppressive regime, that condemns its own citizens for the slightest infraction against the state, and who has already shown time and time again that it is quite prepared to use the threat agression against its neighbors to get aid and concessions. In fact the govt of North Korea is the one of the very types of dictatorial govts that this forum is tasked with fighting. The day they get a bonafide nuclear weapons program up and running is the day they begin to threaten their neighbors or worse. The real question is, what are we prepared to do about it?

You have to ask yourself why a country that can barely feed and provide electricity for its people, and that has isolated itself from every other country the world, needs to be building nuclear warheads and firing missiles.

.

eg israel, pakistan & india

same same.

[jesuitsdidit]

Regardless of who already has nuclear weapons, who has actually used them, or what conspiracies are afoot, I can assure everyone here that a nuclear North Korea is not a good thing for any of us. I don't know what the solution to the problem is, but I do know it's a problem.

What we have here is a closed, technologically backward country, that for years has deprived its people in favor of building one of the world's biggest armies, that is ruled over by a psychotic, oppressive regime, that condemns its own citizens for the slightest infraction against the state, and who has already shown time and time again that it is quite prepared to use the threat agression against its neighbors to get aid and concessions. In fact the govt of North Korea is the one of the very types of dictatorial govts that this forum is tasked with fighting. The day they get a bonafide nuclear weapons program up and running is the day they begin to threaten their neighbors or worse. The real question is, what are we prepared to do about it?

You have to ask yourself why a country that can barely feed and provide electricity for its people, and that has isolated itself from every other country the world, needs to be building nuclear warheads and firing missiles.

.

i dont think the question is whether or not
NK shd hav nuc weapons

the more important qu is whether there
are enough pieces in place to use it
as an excuse to trigger a wider conflict

there is a massive financial problem
at the moment

a large war wd b a good way to get out of it

war always benefits the elites
their own kids rarely get involved
and they dont give a shit about us
so why not??

[realy]

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/seattle-warned-of-imminent-nuke-attack/

"A US congressman has raised doubts over the country’s capability to intercept long-range trans-Pacific strategic missiles once fired from ‘rogue regimes’.

Missouri Congressman Todd Akin has warned about a looming nuclear threat on the US’s West coast as adversarial regimes such as North Korea expand their nuclear and rocket launching capacities."

[sloppy]

What i dont understand is from what i have read and heard, no one actually supports N.Korea. Could somone explain to me who would back the North Koreans, because as it stands right now i really dont see WW3 happening from this.

[rhydra]

What i dont understand is from what i have read and heard, no one actually supports N.Korea. Could somone explain to me who would back the North Koreans, because as it stands right now i really dont see WW3 happening from this.

It would be unlikely China would back them up this time. However, it would not be impossible for China to become embroiled if a conflict looked like it was going to threaten them in one way or another especially if a Chinese vessel was sunk. It could be a US ship accidentally firing on them or a NK attempt to draw China into the war. If it was the latter China might have entered the war, then it would be far too late.

[coco]

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/seattle-warned-of-imminent-nuke-attack/

"A US congressman has raised doubts over the country’s capability to intercept long-range trans-Pacific strategic missiles once fired from ‘rogue regimes’.

Missouri Congressman Todd Akin has warned about a looming nuclear threat on the US’s West coast as adversarial regimes such as North Korea expand their nuclear and rocket launching capacities."

Alaska expresses concern about this:

http://www.adn.com/news/military/story/822088.html

Defense Secretary Gates remains confident in US Defense Shield:

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=63063

[jesuitsdidit]

What i dont understand is from what i have read and heard, no one actually supports N.Korea. Could somone explain to me who would back the North Koreans, because as it stands right now i really dont see WW3 happening from this.

Could somone explain to me who would back the North Koreans

NK is communist
so is China

Russia which was communist at the time
supported NK during Korean War

so Russia n China both hav reasons to support NK

remember we r not dealing with reality
all they r concerned about is can they sell
the story to the public

thats the only test they r interested in

not whether it makes sense
not whether its right
not whether its within international law

ONLY
will the public buy the story

if they will
then theyve got what they want..

[cafetimes1991]

How long has Obama been, allegedly, in power now? It's almost been six months, so maybe North Korea is his challenge.
I used to think this sort of war was impossible, because if one country fired a missile, there would be a response missile etc, so eventually the whole Earth's surface would be destroyed. Of course now the Illuminati have their bunkers.

[coco]

Didn't Biden say Obama would face a challenge soon after he assumes the Presidency?

[jesuitsdidit]

we definitely need to stay abreast
of this story
it could go critical very quickly..

[jesuitsdidit]

they r in their final stages
they hav 2 throw evrything at this

USA debt doesnt matter
coz if they win its all wiped out

if they lose its not their problem

it has to be completed in the next 6 months
or never

everything now is geared around that time-table

expect to see irrational behaviour..

[elrafaargentino]

La infor en español = http://lucasraffablog.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/tension-mundial-la-onu-prepara-las-sanciones-y-corea-del-norte-advierte-con-guerra-mundial/

[sloppy]

Could somone explain to me who would back the North Koreans

NK is communist
so is China

Russia which was communist at the time
supported NK during Korean War

so Russia n China both hav reasons to support NK

remember we r not dealing with reality
all they r concerned about is can they sell
the story to the public

thats the only test they r interested in

not whether it makes sense
not whether its right
not whether its within international law

ONLY
will the public buy the story

if they will
then theyve got what they want..

Cheers Jesus

[cornilouse]

another war in Korea, will only involve America,the Koreans and japan.

China and Russia will look on disapprovingly but they are not capable militarily of taking on the "west".

And anyways it is highly doubtful that N.Korea has managed to construct nukes small enough to fit on the tip of missiles

NO worries

[jesuitsdidit]

The resolution "condemns in the strongest terms" the North Korean nuclear test and demands Pyongyang "not conduct any further nuclear test or any launch using ballistic missile technology."

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/Detail.aspx?id=97934&sectionid=351020405


UN resolution bans N. Korea arms exports
Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:49:50 GMT

The UN Security Council approves tougher sanctions on North Korea, banning all its weapons exports and most arms imports into the communist state.

The 15-nation assembly convened on Friday to unanimously approve a sanctions resolution which also allows the UN member-states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land shipment.

The resolution, which does not authorize the use of force, also requires them to seize and destroy any commodities transported in violation of the sanctions. It also calls on the member-states to prevent the transfer of financial or other assets that could help North Korea's nuclear or ballistic missile programs.

Once in two minds on punitive measures against Pyongyang, both China and Russia turned out to vote for the "binding" US-drafted resolution, which came following wide condemnation of North Korea's nuclear tests on May 25.

The resolution "condemns in the strongest terms" the North Korean nuclear test and demands Pyongyang "not conduct any further nuclear test or any launch using ballistic missile technology."

It says Pyongyang "shall abandon all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs in a complete, verifiable and irreversible manner and immediately cease all related activities."

The resolution calls on the communist regime to immediately "retract its announcement of withdrawal from the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty)" and return immediately to the six-party talks without precondition.

North Korea drew a strong wave of condemnation from the Security Council, launching a long-range missile in April.

It still dared for more when it retorted by announcing on May 25 that it had staged a second nuclear weapons test following the one in 2006.

[monkeyboy]

so is korea one of the only none nwo countrys left in the world or is this another iran?

[the nine]

so is korea one of the only none nwo countrys left in the world or is this another iran?

i think iran, north korea and sudan dont have rothschildes controlled central banks.

[the nine]

The 15-nation assembly convened on Friday to unanimously approve a sanctions resolution which also allows the UN member-states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land shipment.

.

they have already stated that anyone who intervenes one of their ships will be an act of war..
so the weak UN should just push for all out nuclear wars then, FFS.

[monkeyboy]

i think iran, north korea and sudan dont have rothschildes controlled central banks.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad mwo muppet?


http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/ahmadinejad.jpg

[jesuitsdidit]

NORTH Korea said on Tuesday it would use its nuclear weapons both to defend itself and to carry out a reprisal for any attack by its enemies.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_387904.html


June 9, 2009
We'll strike back mercilessly

SEOUL - NORTH Korea said on Tuesday it would use its nuclear weapons both to defend itself and to carry out a reprisal for any attack by its enemies.

The communist country would answer any pre-emptive strike with 'an advanced pre-emptive strike' of its own, the cabinet newspaper Minju Joson said.

The nuclear deterrent would be a strong tool to protect regional peace and carry out a 'just retaliatory strike' which would be 'merciless' on those who infringe on its dignity and sovereignty, it said.

The communist party daily Rodong Sinmun carried a similar warning in a commentary on Tuesday, 15 days after the North carried out its second nuclear test.

'It is the revolutionary spirit of the army and people and the mode of counter-action for self-defence to decisively wipe out the aggressors, reacting to the enemy's high-handed acts with the toughest measures and its pre-emptive attack with the advanced pre-emptive strikes of Korean style,' it said.

'The US imperialists had better give up their war gambling as it would only invite their self-destruction.' International efforts to negotiate an end to the North's nuclear programmes stalled in December and virtually collapsed in early April when the North launched a long-range rocket.

After the UN Security Council censured the launch, the North announced it was quitting the six-nation talks and restarting a programme to make weapons-grade plutonium.

It followed up with a nuclear test and has also launched six short-range missiles, renounced the truce which ended the 1950-1953 Korean War and threatened possible attacks on the South.

The North is now said to be preparing to test-launch an intercontinental ballistic missile as well as several medium-range missiles. -- AFP

[jesuitsdidit]

so is korea one of the only none nwo countrys left in the world or is this another iran?

good question
not sure..

[bones]

un trying to strongarm n korea... only we can have nukes and no one else...


sounds like a dictatorship? oh it is, !!!

[jesuitsdidit]

In reaction to UNSC new sanctions, North Korea threatens to start enriching uranium, change all its extracted plutonium into weapons and to respond any blockade with military action.

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=97982&sectionid=351020405


N Korea to counter any blockade militarily
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:01:06 GMT

In reaction to UNSC new sanctions, North Korea threatens to start enriching uranium, change all its extracted plutonium into weapons and to respond any blockade with military action.

The UNSC earlier on Friday imposed new sanctions against Pyongyang for missile firings and a nuclear test, banning all weapons exports from North Korea and most arms imports into the state.

The 15 members also convened to approve a sanctions resolution which also allows the UN member-states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land shipment.

North Korea's foreign ministry said in a statement on Saturday that it would consider any blockade as an act of war and it would retaliate militarily.

"Firstly, all plutonium to be extracted will be weaponised. One third of used fuel rods have so far been reprocessed," the ministry said.

"Secondly, we will start uranium enrichment," it added.

The North has successfully developed technology needed to enrich uranium after it decided to build its own light water reactors, according to the statement.

North Korea over the past months test fired missiles, restarting a plant to produce arms-grade plutonium and holding the May 25 nuclear test.

Pyongyang had earlier threatened to resume its halted nuclear program in the event of more UN sanctions.

Six nations -- the US, Russia, China, South Korea and Japan -- have been negotiating with Pyongyang in an attempt to persuade it into eliminating its nuclear weapons program in exchange for economic aid and a return to the international community.

The North blew up a water cooling tower at a facility in June 2008 in a dramatic show of its commitment to denuclearization but later talks collapsed after North Korea complained that the US had not kept its promise.

[jesuitsdidit]

After a new round of UNSC sanctions against its nuclear program, North Korea says it will continue to weaponize its spent plutonium rods and to take "resolute military actions" against efforts to isolate it.

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/Detail.aspx?id=98029&sectionid=351020405


North Korea says it is weaponizing plutonium
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:08:27 GMT

After a new round of UNSC sanctions against its nuclear program, North Korea says it will continue to weaponize its spent plutonium rods and to take "resolute military actions" against efforts to isolate it.

In a statement on Saturday, an unnamed spokesman for Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said the country can no longer "even think about giving up its nuclear weapons".

It added that Pyongyang had weaponized more than one third of its spent plutonium rods and would begin a new program to enrich uranium.

"Firstly, all plutonium to be extracted will be weaponized. One third of used fuel rods have so far been reprocessed," read the statement. "Secondly, we will start uranium enrichment."

Earlier on Friday, the UN Security Council imposed tougher sanctions against the country over its most recent nuclear test. The sanctions include a wider ban on arms sales and the inspection of North Korean ships.

Tension in the troubled Korean peninsula has built up since May 25, when Pyongyang staged it second nuclear test and fired a series of short-range missiles.

Senior officials in Washington have said that the US will do what it deems necessary for the security of its allies in the troubled region.

North Korea said it would view any US-led attempts to "blockade" it as an "act of war".

[jesuitsdidit]

The United States has said that North Korea must stop its "provocative" actions and return immediately to stalled six-party talks on its nuclear program.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090613/twl-us-n-korea-must-stop-provocative-act-41f21e0.html


US: 'N Korea must stop provocative action'

4 hours 10 mins ago

The United States has said that North Korea must stop its "provocative" actions and return immediately to stalled six-party talks on its nuclear program.

In response to new UN sanctions agreed to on Friday, Pyongyang said it will start a uranium enrichment program and vowed to weaponise all of its plutonium.

A State Department official said: "(North Korea) needs to cease provocative actions and rhetoric, and return unconditionally to the six-party process."

[jesuitsdidit]

The United Nations Security Council has approved expanded sanctions and a trade and arms embargo against North Korea.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090613/twl-un-expands-sanctions-against-north-k-41f21e0.html


UN expands sanctions against North Korea

34 mins ago

The United Nations Security Council has approved expanded sanctions and a trade and arms embargo against North Korea.

The move follows the hermit state's nuclear test on May 25 and ballistic missile launches, which were in defiance of previous UN resolutions.

The sanctions resolution bans all weapons exports from North Korea and most arms imports into the communist state.

It also authorises UN member states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land cargo, requiring them to seize and destroy any goods transported in violation of the sanctions.

Both China and Russia, which had been reluctant to support punitive measures against North Korea in the past, supported the resolution, which is now binding under international law.

US envoy Rosemary DiCarlo told the 15-nation Security Council that the resolution created "markedly stronger sanctions" against Pyongyang to persuade it to abandon its atomic weapons ambitions.

China's UN ambassador, Zhang Yesui, said the resolution showed the "firm opposition" of the international community to North Korea's nuclear ambitions, but he urged countries to exercise caution when inspecting North Korean cargo.

Council diplomats said that it was not yet clear whether China, the closest its neighbour North Korea has to a major ally, was prepared to actively implement the new sanctions resolution.

Beijing ignored an earlier round of sanctions against Pyongyang passed after North Korea's first nuclear test in October 2006.

[jesuitsdidit]

i was under the impression
NK had agreed to de-commission its nuke plant
last yr

but
then they realised
there wd be no enemy
and lo and behold
(after new orders issued)

NK decides to rescind its agreement
and rebuff the int'l community..

remember folks
u r in a theatre..

[sithnemesis]

i was under the impression
NK had agreed to de-commission its nuke plant
last yr

but
then they realised
there wd be no enemy
and lo and behold
(after new orders issued)

NK decides to rescind its agreement
and rebuff the int'l community..

remember folks
u r in a theatre..

Indeed :)

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/07.02.13.NukeBoost-X.gif

Ryugyong Hotel North Korea :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3447&stc=1&d=1230910588
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3448&stc=1&d=1230910611 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3449&stc=1&d=1230910629

Nuke me Nuke me Nuke me... till I lose control http://www.wahgames.com/play/files/image/nukeme.gif http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/white_viberant/nuke.gif

[realy]

http://blogs.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel (< not my own myspace)

[jesuitsdidit]

"Under the present situation where the Korean People's Army (KPA) is technically at war with the U.S. imperialists, and as the Armistice Agreement has lost its legal binding force, the KPA will promptly exercise the right to a pre-emptive strike to beat back the enemies' slightest provocation," Pak said.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/15/content_11547835.htm


DPRK threatens to launch pre-emptive strike against U.S.

www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-15 23:49:41
·The DPRK has warned it would launch a pre-emptive attack against the United States.
·The DPRK will respond to any attempt to blockade it with "resolute and deadly blows."
·The U.N. Security Council on Friday unanimously approved wider sanctions against the DPRK.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) holds a conference of 100,000 people to condemn United Nations Security Council 1874 Resolution, in Pyongyang, in this photo released on June 15, 2009 by Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). (Xinhua/KCNA)
Photo Gallery>>>

PYONGYANG, June 15 (Xinhua) -- The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) has warned it would launch a pre-emptive attack against the United States.

Pak Jae Gyong, vice-minister of the DPRK People's Armed Forces, made the remark at a mass rally that attracted some 10,000 people to denounce a newly endorsed U.N. Security Council Resolution, the official KCNA news agency said Monday.

"Under the present situation where the Korean People's Army (KPA) is technically at war with the U.S. imperialists, and as the Armistice Agreement has lost its legal binding force, the KPA will promptly exercise the right to a pre-emptive strike to beat back the enemies' slightest provocation," Pak said.

He threatened to deliver blows to the "vital parts of the U.S." and "wipe out all its imperialist aggressor troops no matter where they are in the world."

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) holds a conference of 100,000 people to condemn United Nations Security Council 1874 Resolution, in Pyongyang, in this photo released on June 15, 2009 by Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). (Xinhua/KCNA)
Photo Gallery>>>

Meanwhile, Kim Ki Nam, secretary of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea, told the rally that the U.N. resolution was "another grave provocation."

"This is, in essence, a wicked pressure offensive launched by the U.S. imperialists to disarm the DPRK, strangle its economy and undermine its ideology and system," Kim said.

The DPRK will respond to any attempt to blockade it with "resolute and deadly blows," he said.

The U.N. Security Council on Friday unanimously approved wider sanctions against the DPRK over its May 25 nuclear test.

The resolution bans all weapons exports from the DPRK and most arms imports into the country. It authorizes U.N. member states to inspect the DPRK's sea, air and land cargoes, requiring them to seize and destroy any goods transported in violation of the sanctions.




Related

U.S. to enforce U.N. sanctions on DPRK: Biden

WASHINGTON, June 14 (Xinhua) -- U.S. Vice President Joe Biden said the United States would enforce sanctions set in the 1874 UN Security Council Resolution on the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), NBC networks reported on Sunday.

The United States will enforce the resolution, said Biden in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press," adding "It is important that we make sure those sanctions stick and those sanctions prohibit them from exporting or importing weapons."

U.S. lawmakers vote against "hostile" DPRK

WASHINGTON, June 15 (Xinhua) -- U.S. lawmakers adopted a resolution on Monday, demanding the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) immediately stop its "hostile rhetoric" toward the Republic of Korea (ROK) and give up its nuclear program on the eve of a U.S.-ROK summit meeting.

The DPRK should "immediately stop any hostile rhetoric and activity towards the Republic of Korea and engage in mutual dialogue to enhance inter-Korean relations," the House of Representatives said in the resolution.

[cafetimes1991]

http://michandanjoshtyn.com/mediac/400_0/media/interesting_cat.jpg

[jesuitsdidit]

dunno if this is relevant

NB - not recent

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x559875


Ryongchon Explosion Eight Times as Great as North Claims

Sun May-16-04 11:00 PM

TOKYO -- Japan's Kyodo News, citing numerous diplomatic sources in Vienna, reported Saturday that the force of April 22's train explosion at the North's Ryonchon Station was about that of an earthquake measuring 3.6 on the Richter scale, which would have required about 800 tons of TNT -- about eight times that officially announced by North Korea.

The sources referred to earthquake figures gotten by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization.

The North's official Korean Central News Agency had previously reported that the destructive power of the blast was that of 100 tons of dynamite, and explained that the accident was caused by "the electrical contact caused by carelessness during the shunting of wagons loaded with ammonium nitrate fertilizer and tank wagons".

The CTBTO feels that the cause of the explosion may differ from the North's explanation, and noted the explosion might have been caused by highly-explosive materials like military-use fuel going off. Officials at the CTBTO plan to look into the causes of the accident.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200405/2004...

[jesuitsdidit]

Ryongchon disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryongchon_disaster

[jesuitsdidit]

http://en.rian.ru/world/20090615/155250057.html


Russia says N.Korea has reduced activity at nuclear facilities
meaning all preps 4 ano launch completed.j.

15/06/2009

MOSCOW, June 15 (RIA Novosti) - North Korea has scaled down activity at its nuclear facilities after announcing plans for a new nuclear test, a source in Russia's General Staff said on Monday citing intelligence data.

"Data currently available, including satellite surveillance data, indicate that the intensity of movement in the area of the nuclear facilities has declined in the last few days," the official said. "This means the North Koreans have either completed preparations for another underground test or opted for a pause."

The UN Security Council on Friday toughened previous sanctions against North Korea and imposed new ones following Pyongyang's nuclear test May 25.

The fifteen Council members supported resolution 1874, which expands the arms embargo and allows searches of the nation's ships on high seas, but does not authorize use of force.

North Korea said on Saturday it would respond with war to attempts by the United States and its allies to isolate the country, and that it would start enriching uranium and using plutonium for military purposes.

[manxboz]

I'm sorry but i stand by North Korea, it's stupid that just because they don't follow the rules that the Imperialist West want they are condemmed, North Korea is probaly more free than most west conutries as they don't want to be part of any NWO unions or follow the sheep of many other countries. I would join the DPRK if they were attacked.

[jesuitsdidit]

The US Navy does not plan to board by force suspected North Korean ships but will only intercept them to their next port if they refuse to be inspected, a report says.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98239&sectionid=3510203


'US Navy to intercept suspected North Korean ships'
Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:24:17 GMT

The US Navy does not plan to board by force suspected North Korean ships but will only intercept them to their next port if they refuse to be inspected, a report says.

The Navy is to request permission to check North Korean ships suspected of carrying arms or nuclear technology, but would not forcibly board those ships that refuse inspection at sea, US administration officials told the New York Times on Monday.

The planned move by the Navy to intercept the North Korean vessels till the next port, where the US will push again for the inspections, is seen as part of "enforcement" of the UN Security Council resolution approved Friday.

Meanwhile, South Korean President Lee Myung-bak is reportedly seeking a guarantee of continued US nuclear protection amid tension with the North over its nuclear program.

The new resolution by the UNSC approved in reaction to the Communist country's recent nuclear and missile tests calls for inspection of suspected North Korean ships while forbidding any weapons shipment to North Korea.

[jesuitsdidit]

I'm sorry but i stand by North Korea, it's stupid that just because they don't follow the rules that the Imperialist West want they are condemmed, North Korea is probaly more free than most west conutries as they don't want to be part of any NWO unions or follow the sheep of many other countries. I would join the DPRK if they were attacked.

yeah
but
they r prob just ano puppet
providing the excuse 4 conflict

the octopus is too powerful
to hav rogue countries running around outside the pen
duznt add up
Kim Jong-Il, ano fake rebel imo..

their control is total..

[manxboz]

yeah
but
they r prob just ano puppet
providing the excuse 4 conflict

the octopus is too powerful
to hav rogue countries running around outside the pen
duznt add up
Kim Jong-Il, ano fake rebel imo..

their control is total..

Or maybe we are to far down the rabbit hole that we beleive that no country can be free when truely there is one or two.

[ronisron]

Back to the Nuclear Threat, eh?

So when they launch a false flag missile or blow up a "dirty nuke" somewhere in NA, we'll have some folks to blame. Maybe trigger a war that wipes out much of Asia. Either that, or they're just using that crushing fear of nuclear holocaust that's always been so effective. Anyone gowing up in the '80's can remember the US "almost" going to war with Russia, and all the very graphic made for TV and theatrical movies that were made to show the effects of nuclear war. The war only seemed to be over how many strategic missiles each side had and just what to do with them. Or those from the late '50's and early '60's who remember air raid sirens and "get under your desk" at school. Fallout shelters and all the rest. JKF and Kruschev at Cuba.

[jesuitsdidit]

^
they r very close to total global takeover..

just one excuse
thats all they need..

[veritasvoice]

I'd love to know what we expect NK to attack the USA with, considering their repeatedly demonstrated ability for their missiles to just about hit the ocean.

[manxboz]

I'd love to know what we expect NK to attack the USA with, considering their repeatedly demonstrated ability for their missiles to just about hit the ocean.

They don't need missiles to attack U.S. with, they can do suitcase nukes and all and you watch it'll be the grand and powerful U.S.A. with there Allies who make the first move calling it a pre-emptive strike against the monster that is North Korea.

[jesuitsdidit]

I'd love to know what we expect NK to attack the USA with, considering their repeatedly demonstrated ability for their missiles to just about hit the ocean.

that is irrelevant
if ptb can ignite war
and the public buys it its perfect

n Korea is especially dangerous
as, being a closed country, like Burma, there is no
way to know wots really going on in there

so we can be sold a pup
n we wdnt know till its too late..

[jesuitsdidit]

Or maybe we are to far down the rabbit hole that we beleive that no country can be free when truely there is one or two.

well
u hav to look at the evidence

if they orchestrated the French Revolution
the Russian Revolution, WW1, WW2,
the Vietnam War, the Korean War,
Karl Marx and Communism
effectively took control of the USA in 1868 (14th amendment)

then the chances of some puny little enclave
professing an out-of-date form of political control
being independent, is, in all honesty, highly unlikely

emperor hirohito worked with ptb during WW2
and that in the one country
that passed in to law
a decree on pain of death
that the Jesuits shd never again
be permitted on their shores

i know the whole thing is so laughable
that it actually stretches the credibility
but i'm afraid its true

the Jesuits hav actually managed to steer
this world, for most of the past 500 years
towards their final goal

Pope as Universal Monarch..

[mephibosheth]

But surely if NK was 'shown' to have lauched a nuclear attack against the US, wouldn't that simply be all she wrote for NK? I mean a rain of death from above via nuke after nuke to end the so-called 'Democratic Republic'? The US doesn't seem strong enough to beat them on the ground, but there's no denying that they only need to press a few buttons to remove them from existence entirely.

Unless that would displease China.

8)

[jesuitsdidit]

^
they r very close to total global takeover..

just one excuse
thats all they need..

at this stage
it could be

" we've discovered a new terrorist threat
its an offshoot of al quaeda
they exist in every country
have nuclear technology
and, recent intelligence
indicates they r threatening to detonate
(add details here eg dirty bombs)
unless all political prisoners and those convicted of terrorism
are released from jail.
we cannot allow this so we have decided
for your own safety to implement UN code xxxxx
empowering all states to take in to custody,
for safe keeping, their populations until this threat
has been eliminated"

[newspresenter]

I can't workout if North korea are illuminati puppets or freedom fighters.

[rhydra]

The people at the top in the DPRK close to the late Kim Jong Il (come on, he's dead as a dodo FFS!) know that if they peacefully capitulated to the South the generals and apparatchiks who ran the camps, authorised execution warrants etc, will find themselves in a high security prison in Seoul or in the Hague. They don't want to be taken down alive and they know that the next leader of the Socialist Monarchy is probably as useless and as crackers as his late father.
The danger is not the two Koreas but the relations between China and Japan, in particular Japan. Should Japan be forced to use it's military might it's political system may well change drastically. The country may well feel it has to become more defensive, more militaristic and perhaps less quiescent toward it's neighbours.

[jesuitsdidit]

at this stage
it could be

" we've discovered a new terrorist threat
its an offshoot of al quaeda
they exist in every country
have nuclear technology
and, recent intelligence
indicates they r threatening to detonate
(add details here eg dirty bombs)
unless all political prisoners and those convicted of terrorism
are released from jail.
we cannot allow this so we have decided
for your own safety to implement UN code xxxxx
empowering all states to take in to custody,
for safe keeping, their populations until this threat
has been eliminated"

ok everybody in?
good.
aaaachhhooooo
was that someone with swine flu?
oh, i'm afraid we r gonna have to vaccinate
everybody..

actually
it duznt really matter
once u r in the camps
they can do what they want..

[stompk]

By FOSTER KLUG, Associated Press Writer Foster Klug, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 4 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Tuesday that a nuclear-armed North Korea poses a "grave threat" to the world, and he vowed to end a cycle of allowing Pyongyang to create crises and then be rewarded with incentives to back down.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_skorea

Grave threat to who?? South Korea? They can't handle themselves? China? China could flatten N Korea. North Korea has a rocket that might be able to reach Alaska. That's if we didn't have a defense system.

If we were serious about North Korea, we would have taken out KJI a long time ago. Just like, if we were serious about Iran, Ahmadinijad would be long gone. It behooves the NEW WORLD ORDER to have loonies like this in power, because it keeps the atmosphere of fear alive. Send more money to the deep hole of Dept of Defense/ Pentagon, even though they can't account for the missing 2.3 trillion dollars that so conveniently was forgot about after 9/11.

Send more money to the bottomless pit of espionage thats called the CIA, so they can sacrifice more to their beloved god, Baphomet.

May they suffer the same as they have dished out. Little Shop of Horrors, I tell ya.

[decim]

Nagasaki part deux.

A postcard warning from the zionista to the Prince of Persia.

[stompk]

I really love this part.


Lee said he and Obama agreed that "under no circumstance are we going to allow North Korea to possess nuclear weapons." The communist government already has tested two underground nuclear devices and is believed by U.S. intelligence to possess enough material to make several nuclear bombs.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_skorea

They have already tested two nuclear devices.

"under no circumstance are we going to allow North Korea to possess nuclear weapons."

Too late, you morons. But I guess, when in Rome....

As a American, I am ashamed of our government. Abolish them, I say.

[ronisron]

Ladies and Gentleman, WWIII piecemeal style. The Middle East, Africa, Asia, and parts of Eastern Europe are at war. The doublespeak is really sounding silly these days, when this was believable a scant 10 years ago.

[jesuitsdidit]

op

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_skorea


Obama says nuclear-armed N. Korea 'grave threat'

By FOSTER KLUG, Associated Press Writer Foster Klug, Associated Press Writer – 5 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Tuesday that a nuclear-armed North Korea poses a "grave threat" to the world, and he vowed to end a cycle of allowing Pyongyang to create crises and then be rewarded with incentives to back down.

"This is a pattern they've come to expect," Obama said. "We are going to break that pattern."

Standing alongside South Korean President Lee Myung-bak in the White House Rose Garden, Obama said they agreed that a new U.N. resolution seeking to halt North Korea's development of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles must be fully enforced. The U.N. did not authorize military force to enforce the measures.

Lee said he and Obama agreed that "under no circumstance are we going to allow North Korea to possess nuclear weapons." The communist government already has tested two underground nuclear devices and is believed by U.S. intelligence to possess enough material to make several nuclear bombs.

On Capitol Hill on Tuesday, Pentagon officials told a Senate committee that North Korea's missiles could hit the United States in as few as three years if the North continues progress on its weapons system.

U.S. officials have said the North Koreans appear to be making preparations for a third nuclear test. North Korea also has said it would regard efforts to enforce U.N. sanctions as an act of war.

Asked by a reporter whether he believes his country is under threat of attack from the North, Lee said, "They will think twice about taking any measures that they will regret. North Korea may wish to do so, but of course they will not be able to" because of the strong U.S.-South Korean alliance.

Obama said that North Korea's record of threatening other countries and spreading nuclear technology around the world means it should not be recognized as a legitimate nuclear power.

"We will pursue denuclearization on the Korean peninsula vigorously," Obama said. "So we have not come to a conclusion that North Korea will or should be a nuclear power. Given their past behavior, given the belligerent manner in which they are constantly threatening their neighbors, I don't think there's any question that that would be a destabilizing situation that would be a profound threat, not only to United States' security but to world security."

Nor will the international community respond to North Korean provocations, such as additional underground nuclear tests, by offering financial incentives, Lee said.

"They will not be able to gain compensation by provoking a crisis," he said.

Lee added that his country, along with the United States, Japan, China and Russia, will be seeking new measures designed to compel the North to "irrevocably dismantle all of their nuclear weapons programs." North Korea earlier this year announced that it would no longer hold talks with those five nations.

Obama said it remains possible for North Korea to take a new path, one that could lead it away from international condemnation and toward a more prosperous future.

"Prestige and security and prosperity are not going to come through the path of threatening neighbors and engaging in violations of international law," he said.

North Korea has bargained with other countries for more than a decade about giving up its nuclear program, gaining such concessions as energy and economic aid, and then reneging.

Lee also called on the North Korean government to release two American journalists and one South Korean worker who are jailed in the North.

[jesuitsdidit]

I can't workout if North korea are illuminati puppets or freedom fighters.

explain pls..

[jesuitsdidit]

once u r in the camps
they can do what they want..

or stadiums
or reinforced school yards

duznt matter
any holding area will do

prob explains Hillsborough
a test to see how public behaves
once in a stadium
when crisis occurs

prob also one of reasons for Hurricane Katrina
- to see how easily they would go into the stadium
n wot they would do once inside..

[jesuitsdidit]

for all we know
NK may not even have nuclear technology yet

the fact that Rumsfeld gave them a reactor means nothing
if they havn't got any fuel for it

but how are we to know?
perfect

they can say what they want n we cannot check it out
all these nuclear tests
could be the HAARP mobile
a little local earthquake
seismologists record tremor
the only ones who know the truth r the USA..
perfect..

see what you can find about the true nature
of NK's nuclear programme..

[newspresenter]

explain pls..

Well we know on past experience, that the illuminati have funded all sides of every major war, organised situations for wars, guided people like adolf rothschild etc into positions of "power", maybe the north korean jong wong tong bloke was put in place to create an opportunity for war?

On the other hand, he maybe a freedom fighter who doesn't/didn't wana play the illuminati game and has been forced to defend himself against the mite of the illuminati? All we see/hear is that kong wong tong is a "bad man", like stalin, adolf and hussain.

If the estate bully came knocking on your door to tax you as an occupant of "his area" and you didn't wana take that shit, war...

[jesuitsdidit]

Wed. North Korea warns that it would launch a "merciless" attack if provoked by the US, after President Barack Obama described the state as a "grave threat" to the world.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98347&sectionid=351020405


North Korea warns of 'merciless' retaliation
Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:53:55 GMT

North Korea warns that it would launch a "merciless" attack if provoked by the US, after President Barack Obama described the state as a "grave threat" to the world.

"If the US and its followers infringe upon our republic's sovereignty even a bit, our military and people will launch a one hundred or one thousand fold retaliation with [a] merciless military strike," the state-run Minju Joson newspaper said on Wednesday.

"The nuclear program is not the monopoly of the US," the paper read.

The statement comes after at a news conference with the visiting South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak, Obama said he US would "vigorously" pursue an end to North Korea's nuclear program.

"Its nuclear and ballistic missile programs pose a grave threat to (the) peace and security of Asia and to the world," Obama noted Tuesday.

Obama also re-affirmed his commitment to defend South Korea in the face of any possible danger in the volatile region.

The US maintains a nuclear umbrella over South Korea; periodically, the US reaffirms that protection. Such security measures have been in place since the Korean War ended in 1953.

Relations between the two Koreas deteriorated after the conservative government of President Lee Myung-bak came to power in South Korea last year.

The tension in the troubled Korean peninsula has escalated over North's May 25, nuclear test and a series of missile launches. Following the tests South Korean and US troops on the volatile peninsula went on high alert near the Yellow Sea.

JR/MMN
Related Stories:

* Obama sees 'grave threat' rising from North Korea
* 'Lee seeks extended US nuclear protection'
* Seoul on alert over Pyongyang nuclear threats
* North Korea says it is weaponizing plutonium

[jesuitsdidit]

they can create any scenario they want
and especially if its in a closed country
it is very difficult to refute
this is why we need to dig until we find the facts..

[jesuitsdidit]

and regarding the power of the Catholic Church

why do all Catholic Bibles not rely on the ancient
Greek manuscripts

but are based on later fakes
like
the codex sinaticus
the codex vaticanus
jerome's latin vulgate?

[jesuitsdidit]

^

their plan is to destroy Christianity
why
bcoz they r pagans

i do not defend Christianity
for any other reason than it is being slandered

[jesuitsdidit]

^
i do not suggest it is necessarily any better
than any other mainstream religion
(comment on minor religions later)

a religion in one sense is only as good as the ppl
who practice it

but
i want people to know whats going on
so they can make an informed decision

is there a conspiracy or isn't there?
and if so, who's behind it?

[jesuitsdidit]

prob also one of reasons for Hurricane Katrina
- to see how easily they would go into the stadium
n wot they would do once inside..

a dry run for martial law..

[jesuitsdidit]

you cannot judge something/someone
if the facts are skewed

did they get in early and set Christianity on a dead-end path?

some say the Council of Nicaea in the 3rd century
was the point when Christianity lost its essential being

some say Jesus's family and close followers
never wanted it to become a huge, powerful Church

just a set of teachings
something like the Eastern Mystics
like Lao-Tzu or Confucius

[jesuitsdidit]

perhaps they knew that thats where its essential power lay
and that turning it into a huge corporation
would lead to its eventual demise??

perhaps they knew that restrictive pronouncements
would lead to it being disrespected..

[jesuitsdidit]

this is how the Jesuits have secured their power
this is why controlling the education system is so important

bcoz they will offer a very good education
often at minimal rates
to those who can be turned into
the leaders of the future
whether in politics, business or science

their motto
'give me the boy at 7, and i will give you the man at 14'
of course if you control the universities as well
then that just completes the process

[jesuitsdidit]

their abilities are formidable
they were teaching the Chinese astronomy in the 1600's

it was a Jesuit priest who discovered eugenics
by realising you could control the colour of a sweet-pea plant
by cross-breeding

some say Einstein was just a mouth-piece for the Jesuits
just as Hitler's Mein Kampf was written by Jesuit Stempfle

[jesuitsdidit]

so i say thank God for the Reformation
thank God for Martin Luther
and those who broke the power of the Catholic Church

but be warned they r fighting back
and they dont intend to take it lying down..

[jesuitsdidit]

returning to N Korea
this was on the news ticker yesterday
on the unhived mind website

U.S NUKED NORTH KOREA WITH A 2-5 KILOTON LOW-YIELD WARHEAD RIGHT IN RYONGCHON RAILWAY MARSHALLING YARDS BACK ON APRIL 22 2004!

is it true?

[jesuitsdidit]

something else i've noticed
over the past few years
no scientific data to back this up
just a feeling

there seems to be much less rainfall
than previously
all the plants/crops seem ok

so i'm wondering, coz obviously if they cd
cause a drought that wd be a major
weapon against the masses,

maybe they allow enough rain to keep the top soil moist
so we dont notice
but not enough to replenish the deep underground
water table

maybe cause majority of rain to fall into the sea
thru weather modification

just a thought..??

[jesuitsdidit]

the biggest single justification for ww3
will be when Medina and Mecca get nuked
by the CIA
oops
correction
an extremist white supremicist group..

[steevo]

Does anyone actually read your posts Jesuitsdidit ?

[cafetimes1991]

I do. :o

[decim]

Does anyone actually read your posts Jesuitsdidit ?

jesuitsdon't

[steevo]

jesuitsdon't

So me and the Jesuits have got something in common then! I KNEW it! That would explain ALOT!

[steevo]

that sounds like a stupid comment to me
r u here to help and learn
or hinder, confuse and mislead those
who dont have the full picture??

Explain to me why you keep bugging me then. You are acting like a creepy stalker. Come on Jesuitsdidit. EXPLAIN and get it out into the open.

[jesuitsdidit]

Explain to me why you keep bugging me then. You are acting like a creepy stalker. Come on Jesuitsdidit. EXPLAIN and get it out into the open.

i dont see the connection between exposing agents and acting
as a creepy stalker

ones motives are bad
the other's are good..

[manxboz]

North Korea is only trying to protect itself against the capitialist pigs that controll the western world. I would gladly sign up to the North Korea Army and help them fight if the need arises.

[jesuitsdidit]

i dont see the connection between exposing agents and acting
as a creepy stalker

ones motives are bad
the other's are good..

dont get me wrong
i'm not saying you aren't one
of the harder ones to detect
coz u definitely r..

[realy]

dont get me wrong
i'm not saying you aren't one
of the harder ones to detect
coz u definitely r..

those jesuits are sneaky for sure.

[steevo]

those jesuits are sneaky for sure.

We certainly are.....ooops,... I mean THEY certainly are. The little buggars :D;)

[halftheworldaway]

Fox News are getting rather excited. John Bolton, former UN Ambassador, has almost been purring at the thought of an imminent conflict.

U.S.Military Tracking North Korean Ship Suspected of Proliferating Missiles, Nukes
A ship named Kang Nam left a port in North Korea Wednesday and could be carrying missile parts or nuclear materials in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution.

FOXNews.com
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/military-tracking-north-korean-ship-suspected-proliferating-weapons-material/

Thursday, June 18, 2009

The U.S. military is tracking a flagged North Korean ship suspected of proliferating weapons material in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last Friday, FOX News has learned.

The ship, Kang Nam, left a port in North Korea Wednesday and could be carrying weaponry, missile parts or nuclear materials. The U.S. military has been tracking it since its departure.

"It is believed to be 'of interest,'" a senior U.S. official told FOX News.

This is the first suspected "proliferator" that the U.S. and its allies have tracked from North Korea since the United Nations authorized the world's navies to enforce compliance with a variety of U.N. sanctions aimed at punishing North Korea for its recent nuclear test.

North Korea, though, has said that any attempt to board its ships would be viewed as an act of war and promised "100- or 1,000-fold" retaliation if provoked.

The Kang Nam is known to be a ship that has been involved in proliferation activities in the past -- it is "a repeat offender," according to one military source.

FOX News' Jennifer Griffin and Justin Fishel contributed to this report.

[jesuitsdidit]

i'm very suspicious of all this NK nuke crap

rumsfeld gave NK nuclear reactor
we know how much shit goes on
behind the scenes

he's probably only got a few 18th century flintlocks
from the missionaries

and theyre blowing it up into this huge scenario
just like Saddam b4 Iraq War
to further their plans

i believe very little of what they say i'm afraid
my money says its all bullshit

but that doesnt mean they wont try
n use it for their ends does it..

[walsingham]

i'm very suspicious of all this NK nuke crap

rumsfeld gave NK nuclear reactor
we know how much shit goes on
behind the scenes

he's probably only got a few 18th century flintlocks
from the missionaries

and theyre blowing it up into this huge scenario
just like Saddam b4 Iraq War
to further their plans

i believe very little of what they say i'm afraid
my money says its all bullshit

but that doesnt mean they wont try
n use it for their ends does it..

My Grand-dad was sent to the Korean War when doing his National Serivce, an I can cleary say that the Koreans back then had modern equipment, so i can't see why they don't have today.

It's a pity that Truman didn't allow MacArthur to annex North Korea and then steamroll over China sixty years ago.

[realy]

http://www.roguegovernment.com/North_Korea_Nuclear_Crisis_Was_Engineered_By_Desig n/16033/0/13/13/Y/M.html

was just hearing about them launching some missiles in the direction of hawaii. korea for sure can have tech and very advance tech at this point.

[gilly]

Please keep this thread on topic. Perhaps any personal issues could be resolved by PMs?

[steevo]

I'm out of these forums.

[hitithard]

steveo's out

[steevo]

steveo's out

He's back hitithard (hopefully lol ). Now let's get this thread back on topic ;):)

[i_am]

May I make a suggestion guys?

We have a chat room. When two people have a dispute, why not go there and sort it?

You can do it privately there if there are others present.

It would save the mods a LOT of work, members a lot of frustration, and you could slug it out until you can at least agree to disagree.