Drugs of the Psychoactive Kind

[gardenofdreams]

Hi all,

I've recently been looking into Terrance Mkenna, i've known of him for a few years and have watched stuff before, but have only gone into his works deeper recently.

I just wondered what other people thought of his work but also more importantly, do people think drugs of the psychoactive kind can help to heal and does anyone have first hand experience? There are of course many creative bonuses in taking these drugs too, and maybe getting in touch with your higher vibrations.

I've often thought that it's not the drugs that are the problem but how they are consumed and abused.

I'd be greatful for any replies :)

Thanks!

[gods sun]

i belive that they are a sort off debugging of the brain fixing all mental faults etc experiancing the divine and help appriciate yourself and world around you as a great place, bringing awakening and spiritual enlightment.

makes you ask questions if what you see is just an illusion that your senses are addicted to hence where the matrix comes in.

ive tried many but you must not abuse as its like abusing a human etc the more you abuse the more bad trips you will experiance and possibly bring some nasty spirit mentally, which could possible be do the reverse of what your trying to cure.

[ormy]

Hi there GOD:eek:

Im also extremely interested in this topic and what you have written is pretty much the way I am thinking about these things at the moment. Ive been listening to a load of podcasts on the subject recently and the things that are being talked about are blowing me away.

I must say that I have no first hand experience.

Yes, I have heard its all about respect and intention when dealing with entheogens. I think that healing is very possible. One thing that I think is important to note is that these plants, indeed all plants, appear to have a conciousness. In the case of Peyote, it has been on this planet in its present form for millions of years. When interacting with that kind of ancient force, great care and reverence should be paramount I reckon.

The other amazing thing is that the human brain has receptors purpose built for the chemistry in some of these plants. Ive heard it said that humans need these plants like plants themselves need the sunlight.

McKenna is wonderful to listen to. He is too much for my poor little brain after a while though.

:):):)

[gods sun]

thing you gotta ask is why do we have these receptors? why do we have 1 for thc? dmt? mdma? san pedro? everything we have receptors if the planet did want us to have experiances with these plants why do we have recptor for them?

[gardenofdreams]

i belive that they are a sort off debugging of the brain fixing all mental faults etc experiancing the divine and help appriciate yourself and world around you as a great place, bringing awakening and spiritual enlightment.

makes you ask questions if what you see is just an illusion that your senses are addicted to hence where the matrix comes in.

ive tried many but you must not abuse as its like abusing a human etc the more you abuse the more bad trips you will experiance and possibly bring some nasty spirit mentally, which could possible be do the reverse of what your trying to cure.

Some very wise advise! Thank you for posting!

[titansound]

Well there is a reason that both LSD and MDMA were used in the treatment of marriage problems. And as gods sun said, we have the receptors so why not make use of them?

Some of my happiest times have been with friends while on mushrooms, weed and MDMA.

[gardenofdreams]

Hi there GOD:eek:

Im also extremely interested in this topic and what you have written is pretty much the way I am thinking about these things at the moment. Ive been listening to a load of podcasts on the subject recently and the things that are being talked about are blowing me away.

I must say that I have no first hand experience.

Yes, I have heard its all about respect and intention when dealing with entheogens. I think that healing is very possible. One thing that I think is important to note is that these plants, indeed all plants, appear to have a conciousness. In the case of Peyote, it has been on this planet in its present form for millions of years. When interacting with that kind of ancient force, great care and reverence should be paramount I reckon.

The other amazing thing is that the human brain has receptors purpose built for the chemistry in some of these plants. Ive heard it said that humans need these plants like plants themselves need the sunlight.

McKenna is wonderful to listen to. He is too much for my poor little brain after a while though.

:):):)

lol I get the same thing with Mckenna too, my brain almost shuts down after a while as the information is so vast. He's
such a wise and intelligent guy, what podcasts have you been listening to? I've only been watching a few things on Youtube so far.

[gardenofdreams]

Well there is a reason that both LSD and MDMA were used in the treatment of marriage problems. And as gods sun said, we have the receptors so why not make use of them?

Some of my happiest times have been with friends while on mushrooms, weed and MDMA.

I had no idea we had the receptors for them, this is so interesting and just makes so much sense! :)

[dmt head]

Theres some cool podcasts on this website,http://www.thegrowreport.com/Forums/index.php

Most are about dope but Lorenzo and Max freakout are about psychedelics but some of the other podcasts have some psychedelic stuff in them too, Ive actually been asked to go on a fledgling one which would be well cool, though I dont know what id talk about :confused: lol

I think most psychedelics can be used for healing, it can help you realise whats really important and make you appreciate life much more, after high doses of whatever you can feel almost de-fragged, like you dont know whats changed but you feel so much better for it, definite value in these things. I think all humanity would benefit from these things, I wouldnt force people to do anything but I think everyone would benefit if they dosed.

[gods sun]

its whats life about psycodelics are like portals into different realms, id like to see what annunaki have got in store, but till then i can see why such books are written in stroies of wild things that they saw, and most of bible is based on a shroom amanita muscaria the only thing is when i tired it it didnt work i heard you have to drink your urine 5-7 times for it to work :P

[ormy]

Podcasts you say? Wot DMT head said. Lorenzo is a legend. You will find him here also http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/ doing some amazing stuff for humanity. The matrix masters podcasts are my fave.

http://shamanicfreedomradio.podomatic.com/

http://the-psychonautilus.podomatic.com/

http://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/

http://entheogenic.podomatic.com/

That should keep you going for the next two or three.. thousand years.

[ormy]

its whats life about psycodelics are like portals into different realms, id like to see what annunaki have got in store, but till then i can see why such books are written in stroies of wild things that they saw, and most of bible is based on a shroom amanita muscaria the only thing is when i tired it it didnt work i heard you have to drink your urine 5-7 times for it to work :P

That's such an ace concept. Jesus was a mushroom! LOL:)

[pedsi]

That's such an ace concept. Jesus was a mushroom! LOL:)

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/

[ormy]

The Pharmacratic Inquisition right? LOL looks good! Thats me set up for the rest of the eve:) Thanks for the link (and a new batch of listenables!)

[pedsi]

The Pharmacratic Inquisition right? LOL looks good! Thats me set up for the rest of the eve:) Thanks for the link (and a new batch of listenables!)

Just noticed ormy you have Neil Kramer in your sig....Quality:)

[pegcityevolve]

I had no idea we had the receptors for them, this is so interesting and just makes so much sense! :)Just like how we have cannaboid receptors for cannabis. ;)

[drhemp]

I've long known the benefits of psychoactive drugs or plants. I believe partly the reason some of these drugs are kept on the prohibited list because the PTB know of the positive aspects they can have.

MDMA was originally used for its therapeutic purposes before the killjoys banned it. Interestingly this was discussed at a mainstream medical conference in the UK only a few days ago, I saw the report on More4 News - here is the link http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/agony%20or%20ecstasy%20the%20mdma%20dilemma/3194357

Of course, the dinosaurs we have in power will be having none of this and are probably annoyed that this made the MSM. Maybe when they're sent off to The Hague to stand trial for their crimes, the draconian drug laws will be repealed and the positive uses of these substances will be allowed.

[eyepod]

thing you gotta ask is why do we have these receptors? why do we have 1 for thc? dmt? mdma? san pedro? everything we have receptors if the planet did want us to have experiances with these plants why do we have recptor for them?

Not really true! We don't have receptors for all these drugs that you mention. The human brain has receptors for THC, opiates and GHB (:confused:) but no receptors for MDMA, DMT, San Pedro, LSD etc...The later work to get high by f'ing with the interactions and balance of dopamine, seratonin, GABA and other neurotransmitters flowing around in your brain.

Using your logic everyone should be getting off on Heroin, GHB and cannabis.

[gardenofdreams]

Podcasts you say? Wot DMT head said. Lorenzo is a legend. You will find him here also http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/ doing some amazing stuff for humanity. The matrix masters podcasts are my fave.

http://shamanicfreedomradio.podomatic.com/

http://the-psychonautilus.podomatic.com/

http://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/

http://entheogenic.podomatic.com/

That should keep you going for the next two or three.. thousand years.

Thanks for the links Ormy! I shall have fun listening to these! :D

[abigail]

HI there i have had quite a bit of experience of Ayahuasca, basically when we die our bodies secrete DMT from our pineal gland which is how we see with our 3rd eye in the centre of the forehead. So when we drink, we see beyond the vale of human existence. We see our fellow man for who they really are. It is best to do this in some kind of ceremony with an experienced Shaman as it really is something quite sacred. Usually most people develop a sacred connection with nature as a result of drinking the mother vine.

Terence Mckenna described an vision about Machine Elves.......... i saw these once too and at first was a bit wary but i just accepted them as part of the dark. Where there is light there is dark. You do get to see different worlds, dimensions. This drink is usually used to purify the soul and the heart. It really helped me regain my faith in humanity and to become Uber creative in the work that i do. Expansion of the human experience in line with nature is so important it is no wonder why they try and restrict, if everyone saw the true nature of the human spirit then the illuminati etc would be brought down in one hot minute.

The one place where you cannot be controlled is your heart. They know this and this is why humanity is being worked to the bone, we forget love, we forget to be true to ourselves because we are being governed by greed and programmed by advertising. The entheogenic experience is ultimately life changing, it is something that should not be taken lightly if you have any history of mental illness or instability. If you are strong then you can accomplish much with the unlimited power of the human spirit.
IT is the RED pill.

Any further questions, just PM me.
love to you all
Abigail

[mauviene]

Terrence is a great philosopher..same with the whole harvard/lsd research group timothy leary, ram dass, all those guys who tried to promote the vindicating power of the entheogen before they got fired and the CIA took it all underground;)

That being said..entheogens are mans oldest medicine..physical, mental, and spiritual. The biggest thing that these guys promoted was set and setting..which I also cannot stress enough from my limited experience with entheogens. Who your with and and where your at helps with the healing power of the plant..Depending on what your looking for I guess. But if if your looking just for a base medicine that is overall beneficial for everything..I'd suggest you look into marijuana..which unfortunately is stooped up as some party drug

[ormy]

HI there i have had quite a bit of experience of Ayahuasca, basically when we die our bodies secrete DMT from our pineal gland which is how we see with our 3rd eye in the centre of the forehead. So when we drink, we see beyond the vale of human existence. We see our fellow man for who they really are. It is best to do this in some kind of ceremony with an experienced Shaman as it really is something quite sacred. Usually most people develop a sacred connection with nature as a result of drinking the mother vine.

Terence Mckenna described an vision about Machine Elves.......... i saw these once too and at first was a bit wary but i just accepted them as part of the dark. Where there is light there is dark. You do get to see different worlds, dimensions. This drink is usually used to purify the soul and the heart. It really helped me regain my faith in humanity and to become Uber creative in the work that i do. Expansion of the human experience in line with nature is so important it is no wonder why they try and restrict, if everyone saw the true nature of the human spirit then the illuminati etc would be brought down in one hot minute.

The one place where you cannot be controlled is your heart. They know this and this is why humanity is being worked to the bone, we forget love, we forget to be true to ourselves because we are being governed by greed and programmed by advertising. The entheogenic experience is ultimately life changing, it is something that should not be taken lightly if you have any history of mental illness or instability. If you are strong then you can accomplish much with the unlimited power of the human spirit.
IT is the RED pill.

Any further questions, just PM me.
love to you all
Abigail

Hi Abigail,

This is something I am having trouble finding information on. Could you define mental illness? Aren't some forms of mental illness inevitable and just blips? Are people who dont have mental illness somehow stronger than those that do? Would it be dangerous for someone, say, who had some kind of brief spiritual emergency/schizophrenic break in their late 20's to be thinking about personal spiritual growth with a sacred medicine? Even though they are now in their 40s and have been 'healthy brained' for over 10 years?

How do you judge whether it is safe to experiment on yourself if you have a history (however brief or remote) of some kind of mental illness?

How do you tell if you are strong enough?

Sorry, i dont mean to sound shirty...maybe you have touched a raw nerve or something:confused::)

[whiterain]

hi ormy i think you will find many opposing answers to the questions you posed. my advice would be to just work your way up very slowly as the only way you might have a problem would be too much too soon. other cultures revere the people we view as scizophrenic, as they can have a natural insight into the things which the majority struggle to perceive.

some herbs can bring issues to the surface, but that is the point as they need to be identified in order to be worked out. i thought i had lost my mind on lsd but it came back quicker than a hangover. these things are extremely powerful healing tools and used with people who know what they are doing, i would feel there would be very little risk. i feel you already have an advantage over the uninitiated as you say you have already had an insight into this kind of experience naturally, and it doesnt seem to have dampened your spirit to expand your awareness of the field. that really is the only obstacle, and if you can deal with that fear then you are very much on your way to being ready. best of luck, hope im making sense here x

[ormy]

Yes, a lot of sense. Thanks for the reply:)

[mystic nomad]

Psychoactives are strong personal, social healers, it is a big part of the Shamanic way, to move between worlds to see the things that we are programmed not to see, to experience the connectedness of every single molecule in the cosmos. This experience of different realities will confirm that reality, which ever one you think you are in is just a fleeting illusion.

Tap into the mind of mother nature and she will show you many things beyond your imagination, you will see as many different shades of green as there are blades of grass, experience the beautiful music created by the rhythm of life, hear the messages being whispered on the wind, see the vibration of everything, animal, vegetable and mineral.

Experience the dark side and know that a being strong of mind and pure of heart, has nothing to fear.

Perhaps our "normal" state of mind is in fact mental illness, the mind cannot be contained, yet we are conditioned in this realm to do just that and perhaps by having any connection at all with the words "David Icke", you could be classed as paranoid by those that would seek to contain you.

If you are already strong minded enough to be seeking your truth and if you know who you are then take the journey :D

There is a fine line between drug use and drug abuse, as has already been said be choosy with your company and environment and do try and approach it as something sacred for after all you are special.

The Golden Rules.
For what goes up must come down.
The poison is in the dose.
Oh, and don't forget your shades :cool:

[whiterain]

great post mn. i agree in that when taking lsd it seemed at first like i was the mad one, but then the immense happiness, peace and warmth that it brought assured me that if any kind of mindset is mentally ill, then it is the conditioned western one. after realising this i laughed for a bout an hour at how completely backwards our current understanding of such things is. people were literally laughing at me and i was just thinking ha im literally in heaven and you think im the silly one :D

[supertzar]

I read The Archaic Revival back in 1992 and was astounded by Terrence's vision. In 1997 I got to see him speak at a tiny club in New York City. My consciousness heightened by the roach of sticky NYC bud I smoked in the bathroom, I felt as if he was speaking directly to me. Even my sister, who has never experienced anything more psychedelic than Cannabis, became open to the idea of tripping that night.

[drhemp]

great post mn. i agree in that when taking lsd it seemed at first like i was the mad one, but then the immense happiness, peace and warmth that it brought assured me that if any kind of mindset is mentally ill, then it is the conditioned western one. after realising this i laughed for a bout an hour at how completely backwards our current understanding of such things is. people were literally laughing at me and i was just thinking ha im literally in heaven and you think im the silly one :D

That's exactly how I felt when I've taken LSD, plus the wallpaper looked a bit funny.

[abigail]

Hi Abigail,

This is something I am having trouble finding information on. Could you define mental illness? Aren't some forms of mental illness inevitable and just blips? Are people who dont have mental illness somehow stronger than those that do? Would it be dangerous for someone, say, who had some kind of brief spiritual emergency/schizophrenic break in their late 20's to be thinking about personal spiritual growth with a sacred medicine? Even though they are now in their 40s and have been 'healthy brained' for over 10 years?

How do you judge whether it is safe to experiment on yourself if you have a history (however brief or remote) of some kind of mental illness?

How do you tell if you are strong enough?

Sorry, i dont mean to sound shirty...maybe you have touched a raw nerve or something:confused::)

:):)

Hi sweetie,

Sorry, should have been more explicit........................i should have said that anyone who has taken any type of Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor for a period of time as these drugs really do affect brain chemistry and definitely do leave some sort of impact on the brain. After speaking to a hugely experienced Peruvian Shaman, he told me that a history of psychological issues combined with drug therapy would be a recipe for disaster even possibly resulting in death in the most extreme of cases.

As someone else said on here that you should look in your heart. If you heart gives you the answer you need. Sacred medicine is what it is and should be treated accordingly as it is very intense experience.

Depends ultimately on what your intuition and research tells you.
Hope you have a fabulous time if you do x

Love to you x:):):eek:


Which drugs are dangerous with Ayahuasca?

A list of meds to be careful of with MAOIs:

* other MAOIs
* SSRI’s (any selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor)
* amphetamines (meth-, dex-, amphetamine)
* antihypertensives (high blood pressure medicine)
* appetite suppressants (diet pills)
* medicine for asthma, bronchitis, or other breathing problems
* antihistamines, medicines for colds, sinus problems, hay fever, or allergies (Actifed DM, Benadryl, Benylin, Chlor-Trimeton, Compoz, etc.)
* CNS (central nervous system) depressants
* antipsychotics
* alcohol


Some specific drugs that should not be combined with MAOIs:

* Actifed
* Amantadine hydrochloride (Symmetrel)
* Amoxapine (Asendin)
* Benadryl
* Benylin
* Bupropion (Wellbutrin)
* Buspirone (BuSpar)
* Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Epitol)
* Chlor-Trimeton
* Clomipramine (Anafranil)
* Cocaine
* Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)
* Cyclizine (Marezine)
* Desipramine (Pertofrane)
* Dextromethorphan (DXM)
* Disopyramide (Norpace)
* Doxepin (Sinequan)
* Ephedrine
* Flavoxate Hydrochloride (Urispas)
* Fluoxetine (Prozac)
* Imipramine (Tofranil)
* Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
* Levodopa (Dopar, Larodopa)
* Loratadine (Claritin)
* Maprotiline (Ludiomil)
* Meperidine (Demerol)
* Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
* Nortriptyline (Aventyl)
* Oxybutynin chloride (Ditropan)
* Orphenadrine (Norflex)
* Parnate
* Paroxetine (Paxil)
* Phenergen
* Phenelzine (Nardil)
* Procainamide (Pronestyl)
* Protriptyline (Vivactil)
* Pseudoephedrine
* Quinidine (Quinidex)
* Salbutemol
* Salmeterol
* Selegiline (Eldepryl)
* Sertraline (Zoloft)
* Tegretol
* Temaril
* Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
* Tricyclic antidepressants (Amitriptyline, Elavil)
* Trimipramine (Surmontil)
* Yohimbine


Also avoid the following herbs:

* St. Johns Wort
* Kava
* Ephedra
* Ginseng
* Yohimbe
* Sinicuichi


Using Tricyclic antidepressants within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects including sudden fever, extremely high blood pressure, convulsions, and death.

Using Fluoxetine (Prozac) within five weeks of taking MAOIs may cause high fever, rigidity, high blood pressure, mental changes, confusion and hypomania.

Using Meperidine (Demerol) with pharmaceutical MAOIs has resulted in deaths from a single dose.

Using cocaine with MAOIs may cause a severe increase in blood pressure, increasing the chances for stroke and cerebral hemorrhage and making it possible to overdose on a relatively small amount of cocaine. (A fatality has been recorded involving combining Peganum harmala and cocaine.)

Using Bupropion (Wellbutrin) within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects such as seizures.

Using Buspirone (Buspar) with MAOIs may cause high blood pressure.

Using Carbamazepine (Tegretol) with MAOIs may increase seizures.

Using CNS depressants with MAOIs may increase the depressant effects.

Using Dextromethorphan with MAOIs may cause excitement, high blood pressure, and fever, or brief episodes of psychosis.

Using Tryptophan with MAOIs may cause disorientation, confusion, amnesia, delirium agitation, hypomanic signs, shivering.

Using alcohol with MAOIs may cause side effects like angina (chest pain) or headaches. The headache may mask or be mistaken for hypertensive crisis caused by MAOI interaction.

Using Kava with MAOIs may result in hypotensive crisis (severe blood pressure drop).

Using Temaril with MAOIs may increase chance of side effects.

Special note to diabetics: MAOIs may change the amount of insulin or oral antidiabetic medication that you need. Notes on Diabetes and Ayahuasca.

[pegcityevolve]

Hi all,

I've recently been looking into Terrance Mkenna, i've known of him for a few years and have watched stuff before, but have only gone into his works deeper recently.

I just wondered what other people thought of his work but also more importantly, do people think drugs of the psychoactive kind can help to heal and does anyone have first hand experience? There are of course many creative bonuses in taking these drugs too, and maybe getting in touch with your higher vibrations.

I've often thought that it's not the drugs that are the problem but how they are consumed and abused.

I'd be greatful for any replies :)

Thanks!Psychotropic substances. I've been around them since birth. Parents always smoked cannabis, recreationally and for pain. Curiosity got to me at the age of fifteen. I saw a sandwich bag of really smelly green stuff, as they always left it out in the open, still assuming I was clueless of it. I pathetically rolled my first joint ever (with a pen) and lit it with the toaster. I do not remember the high. I gradually started to try it more, with friends this time. A year after my first time and I'm smoking it everyday. Although it took me a few months of experiencing chronic fatigue to research why this plant was causing this burn out 24/7, I found out that being higher, you generally need more vitamins and minerals(at the time I didn't even have vitamins, just scarce amounts in processed foods), and don't waste your munchies on junk food. Do some stretching, do some cardio etc.

I'll have all you know that it wasn't until a few months ago I started to use them for spiritual purposes, as this was the time I found out a lot of occult knowledge on the web. I've tried plenty of these compounds before three months ago.

Now on to the second psychotropic I ever consumed...psilocybin mushrooms. Ahhh, do I ever have encounter empowering enlightenments while under the influence. It's been awhile since I've done them, in fact it's been more than a few months, so I'm anticipating my next shroom trip will be great mind expansion. Moving on...

LSD was once mysterious to my perception, I would take it when I felt like going on a journey. My mother ingested pure LSD whilst three weeks pregnant with me. I haven't tried shrooms for months to correctly compare the two, they both have their strengths. It wasn't until about six weeks ago that I encountered the staggering effects of how it's supposed to be used....it was my ultimate awakening, ripping me out of the matrix for good. Here's a thread of that experience:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66262

Hope you enjoy. :)

[mauviene]

:):)

Hi sweetie,

Sorry, should have been more explicit........................i should have said that anyone who has taken any type of Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor for a period of time as these drugs really do affect brain chemistry and definitely do leave some sort of impact on the brain. After speaking to a hugely experienced Peruvian Shaman, he told me that a history of psychological issues combined with drug therapy would be a recipe for disaster even possibly resulting in death in the most extreme of cases.

As someone else said on here that you should look in your heart. If you heart gives you the answer you need. Sacred medicine is what it is and should be treated accordingly as it is very intense experience.

Depends ultimately on what your intuition and research tells you.
Hope you have a fabulous time if you do x

Love to you x:):):eek:


Which drugs are dangerous with Ayahuasca?

A list of meds to be careful of with MAOIs:

* other MAOIs
* SSRI’s (any selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor)
* amphetamines (meth-, dex-, amphetamine)
* antihypertensives (high blood pressure medicine)
* appetite suppressants (diet pills)
* medicine for asthma, bronchitis, or other breathing problems
* antihistamines, medicines for colds, sinus problems, hay fever, or allergies (Actifed DM, Benadryl, Benylin, Chlor-Trimeton, Compoz, etc.)
* CNS (central nervous system) depressants
* antipsychotics
* alcohol


Some specific drugs that should not be combined with MAOIs:

* Actifed
* Amantadine hydrochloride (Symmetrel)
* Amoxapine (Asendin)
* Benadryl
* Benylin
* Bupropion (Wellbutrin)
* Buspirone (BuSpar)
* Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Epitol)
* Chlor-Trimeton
* Clomipramine (Anafranil)
* Cocaine
* Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)
* Cyclizine (Marezine)
* Desipramine (Pertofrane)
* Dextromethorphan (DXM)
* Disopyramide (Norpace)
* Doxepin (Sinequan)
* Ephedrine
* Flavoxate Hydrochloride (Urispas)
* Fluoxetine (Prozac)
* Imipramine (Tofranil)
* Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
* Levodopa (Dopar, Larodopa)
* Loratadine (Claritin)
* Maprotiline (Ludiomil)
* Meperidine (Demerol)
* Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
* Nortriptyline (Aventyl)
* Oxybutynin chloride (Ditropan)
* Orphenadrine (Norflex)
* Parnate
* Paroxetine (Paxil)
* Phenergen
* Phenelzine (Nardil)
* Procainamide (Pronestyl)
* Protriptyline (Vivactil)
* Pseudoephedrine
* Quinidine (Quinidex)
* Salbutemol
* Salmeterol
* Selegiline (Eldepryl)
* Sertraline (Zoloft)
* Tegretol
* Temaril
* Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
* Tricyclic antidepressants (Amitriptyline, Elavil)
* Trimipramine (Surmontil)
* Yohimbine


Also avoid the following herbs:

* St. Johns Wort
* Kava
* Ephedra
* Ginseng
* Yohimbe
* Sinicuichi


Using Tricyclic antidepressants within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects including sudden fever, extremely high blood pressure, convulsions, and death.

Using Fluoxetine (Prozac) within five weeks of taking MAOIs may cause high fever, rigidity, high blood pressure, mental changes, confusion and hypomania.

Using Meperidine (Demerol) with pharmaceutical MAOIs has resulted in deaths from a single dose.

Using cocaine with MAOIs may cause a severe increase in blood pressure, increasing the chances for stroke and cerebral hemorrhage and making it possible to overdose on a relatively small amount of cocaine. (A fatality has been recorded involving combining Peganum harmala and cocaine.)

Using Bupropion (Wellbutrin) within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects such as seizures.

Using Buspirone (Buspar) with MAOIs may cause high blood pressure.

Using Carbamazepine (Tegretol) with MAOIs may increase seizures.

Using CNS depressants with MAOIs may increase the depressant effects.

Using Dextromethorphan with MAOIs may cause excitement, high blood pressure, and fever, or brief episodes of psychosis.

Using Tryptophan with MAOIs may cause disorientation, confusion, amnesia, delirium agitation, hypomanic signs, shivering.

Using alcohol with MAOIs may cause side effects like angina (chest pain) or headaches. The headache may mask or be mistaken for hypertensive crisis caused by MAOI interaction.

Using Kava with MAOIs may result in hypotensive crisis (severe blood pressure drop).

Using Temaril with MAOIs may increase chance of side effects.

Special note to diabetics: MAOIs may change the amount of insulin or oral antidiabetic medication that you need. Notes on Diabetes and Ayahuasca.

Good post. I currently am trying some St johns wort for some minor depression. Though I don't plan on taking any entheogens such as Ayahuasca in the meantime....I wouldn't beable to brew it in my house at this time anyhow :mad: