Your Right To Keep Your Medical Records

[wakeupworld]

I`m moving home soon and have very little faith left in the medical profession.
I was mucked around by my doctor regarding getting proof of identity for my solicitor for the house move.Was kept waiting along with my 83 year old mother for 50 minutes.
Having been told to bring the photographs in on a specific day at lunchtime by a receptionsit so the doctor would see us. After the 50 minute wait the doctor acted as if she hadn`t read the letter that I had already handed in when I arrived at the surgery.
I stated that the solicitor requested letter headed paper of her statement that she witnessed our signatures. Basically she wouldn`t do it, she was prepared to sign the photographs but wouldn`t do a statement on letterheaded paper. The letter I gave the doctor also stated that she could bill us for the service.
I reminded her that she was a public servant who wouldn`t do a service for us as members of the public.
By their stupid rules according to the British Medical Council they don`t have to provide this service.
Apologies for delaying my question, "Using the freeman way there must be a way to obtain and keep my own medical records?"
As "their" rules stand I can request to see my medical records and have a copy of them which I have to pay for the photocopying, which should be claimed under the doctors expenses.
At this stage I do not want to re-register under another doctor when I move so I want my medical records.
Of course all these laws about proof of identity needed for the solicitor are needless in common law but unfortunately as I spend a lot of time looking after my mother and trying to explain this all to her is near impossible and for now we are just trying to provide what the solictor needs.
Would great appreciate some help about the medical records from some of those much more knowledeable on freeman-on-the-land.
Many Thanks

[whitenight639]

try this:



Your address
Their Address
Date


Dear Sir/Madam
Your name:
Account No/ No’s xxxxxx
DATA PROTECTION ACT 1998 SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST
I understand that you currently hold details of my personal and financial information within your internal record systems with regard to personal loan accounts And or credit cards
Please supply me with a complete list of transaction and charges relating to my history with your organization, INCLUDING Loans and or credit cards, payment protection insurance and other products. Alternatively a complete set of statements for the accounts or associated accounts is acceptable. I would be grateful if you would provide the following for ALL accounts or associated accounts I have held with your organization:

Full copies of all contracts which you believe exist or have existed between myself and your organization, including true copies of any documents you hold in support of the same.


A complete list of all transactions or statements relating to ALL of my Loan Accounts and or credit card with your organization.


Copies of all documents which include any of my personal information including copies of any contacts or invoices, emails or computer records containing my personal information, or any records which pertain to this information.


Full copies or transcripts of any correspondence in postal, email or any other format which you have entered into with any individual, organization or third party which contains my personal or financial information, or which pertains to me.


Where any previous information or records held have been deleted or disposed of, the methods used to do so, including dates, certificates or references confirming details of destruction. Where you are unable to provide such certificates, please provide a declaration, signed by an authorised officer of your company, confirming the dates and methods of destruction of this data.


Full hard copy print outs of my personal or financial information, held in a digital, magnetic or any other format which is held in any archives, backups or other storage devices / locations.
I enclose a cheque in the sum of £10 to cover your fee.
IF YOU UNABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS REQUEST, YOU SHOULD IMMEDIATELY FORWARD IT TO THE PERSON WITHIN YOUR ORGANISATION RESPONSIBLE FOR DATA PROCECTION.
I look forward to hearing from you in the first instance of receipt.
Yours faithfully

Your name



obviously amend it so its applicable to your medical records, or maybe you could re-word it to get them to release the info to your new doctor if thats what your trying to do. The data they have about you should be covered by the DPA but medical records might have some special protection but it might be worth a try.

this is not legal adice its for educational purposes only. Try it at your own risk.

[wakeupworld]

Thanks very much for your response.
If you have read the latest David Icke newsletter it just about sums up my own thoughts and feelings about doctors.
I really want as little to do with doctors as possible and have no plans to register with a doctor when I move home.
The rights of a freeman I would hope would be on having rights to obtain and keep all the medical records my doctor has for me. Not wanting just copies.
To gain copies which is not what I want, the cost of the copies in fairness should be claimed on the doctors expenses.
I do understand the payment required for the banks however.

Thanks for your help anyway, the letter is certainly interesting and I feel could be used in someway as you said in edited form.

[wakeupworld]

I have moved home now and have no intention of registering with a doctor.
As this is the case does anyone know how I can obtain and keep my medical records from my last doctor as I will be using natural health therapists only. Thanks.

[tien an]

Hi wakeupworld,

I sympathise entirely with your desire to retrieve your medical records from the nhs, however, I think whitenight639's suggestion is the way to go about this...let me explain:

The medical records are their records of you.
Whilst you are within your right to demand a copy of the records (as I believe you are, under the FOI act), the originals must logically belong to them.

It is my comprehension that records such as those held by the DVLA are theirs too, as is your registration (the sequence of letters and numbers on your number plate).

If this is the case, then it follows that the medical records belong to the nhs.

However....I would demand copies and then demand a certification of destruction on the grounds that you have no intention of re-entering 'the system'.
(I don't know if you could demand that, but it may be a way of doing it).

Best of luck to you,
tian an.

[wakeupworld]

tien an, many thanks for your informative reply. Using a freeman approach the fact that they own my records is all to do with their statatory duties, and I want to live under common law and they have no right to own them so your suggestion once copies obtained by me for them to destroy them is a very good one.

I will try this yet I can anticipate that this has not been requested before for the medical centre my `doctor` is working and that they would refuse this which would mean that I would have to look into it further.

[tien an]

tien an, many thanks for your informative reply. Using a freeman approach the fact that they own my records is all to do with their statatory duties, and I want to live under common law and they have no right to own them so your suggestion once copies obtained by me for them to destroy them is a very good one.

I will try this yet I can anticipate that this has not been requested before for the medical centre my `doctor` is working and that they would refuse this which would mean that I would have to look into it further.

Just my opinion...

I'd make the FOI Act request at the medical centre; I'm sure they can handle that.
As for the destruction of the medical records, I think you'd have to go a little higher: Each county in England (I'm assuming you live in England) is divided into regions, administrated by a Regional Health Authority.
I'd start there.

All the best,
tian an.

[tom bombadil]

I have moved home now and have no intention of registering with a doctor.
As this is the case does anyone know how I can obtain and keep my medical records from my last doctor as I will be using natural health therapists only. Thanks.

Is it such a big deal that you have those docments (or copies) for your next therapist wakeupworld?

I supose that you have not told your old doc where you are going? And as you will be entering into the new and free world of the freeman concept, you can keep yourself private to the new therapist, then just let it go. Drop the worry. Is there a reason that you need them? Your new 'doc' will examin you o a different level to the old one. The new doc will acces you on what you can tell them. I know for a fact that when one goes to the hospital in an emergancy, the first thing the docs there want is not a complete medical history, but just what you are taking now, if any.

The body, Your body has a way of kicking out the crap that the docs have given it over the years and is only clinging on to the stuff given over the last few years (sometimes more with certain things) and your new doc will want to get rid of that for you, while concentrating on the damage done in the past.

Can you drop it? If you can you will feel a lot better for it.


Nelly :)

[veritasvoice]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Data

[wakeupworld]

Is it such a big deal that you have those docments (or copies) for your next therapist wakeupworld?

I supose that you have not told your old doc where you are going? And as you will be entering into the new and free world of the freeman concept, you can keep yourself private to the new therapist, then just let it go. Drop the worry. Is there a reason that you need them? Your new 'doc' will examin you o a different level to the old one. The new doc will acces you on what you can tell them. I know for a fact that when one goes to the hospital in an emergancy, the first thing the docs there want is not a complete medical history, but just what you are taking now, if any.

The body, Your body has a way of kicking out the crap that the docs have given it over the years and is only clinging on to the stuff given over the last few years (sometimes more with certain things) and your new doc will want to get rid of that for you, while concentrating on the damage done in the past.

Can you drop it? If you can you will feel a lot better for it.


Nelly :)


Thanks Tom for your reply, first I have no plans to see a next or any therapist as I`m perfectly well but obviously that could change but I`m looking at preventative and natural therapy, haven`t taken so much as an aspirin in years.
There`s nothing sinister about me wanting my medical records to keep, it`s more a final ritual if you like of having them destroyed as I want nothing more to do with GP`s in general and my former one mostly.

I know for a fact my former doctor prescribed blood pressure tablets for my mother without even talking about diet as my mother has a high salt and sugar diet, virtually addicted to sugar and now the pills, this doctor also tried to sweep under the carpet info I found out about hospital negligence that contributed to my fathers death.

No, my former doctor does not as yet know where I`ve moved to and I will let the medical centre know tomorrow, as the doctor will still getting a patient retainer for still having on the books.

I also want my mother to obtain a copy of her medical records to find out what the doc put down about treatment for her high blood pressure.

Also I told my former doctor my thoughts (against in general) vaccinations and have noticed since I have been treated with much more contempt that even before. So hell knows what is put down on my notes, but really it is not a worry and as I said to obtain a copy of my medical records and then have the originals destroyed is really just a way of drawing a line under my time certainly in recent years of negative experiences with the medical health profession.

[wakeupworld]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Data


Thanks for this info.