Flooding…..Just Mulling……

[myeika]

Hi…..

Last night and again today my mum phoned me, and was going on about the floods and how bad it was (my mum bless her frets about everything)…..Then whilst I have been out today, that’s all I heard everyone talking about……..

I don’t normally watch tv, but this evening I put the ‘news’ on! Just to see exactly how bad it is……And what it was that was getting many people talking about and feeling so scared about…..

Yes there were pictures on the news about the damage and the upsetting sites that is worrying many people…..
Then this chap came on….(don’t know who it was lol…) saying why it was happening….. I wasn’t really listening, until he started going on about man made global warming (!!!) etc etc, then he started talking about that it is the gulf stream that is bringing the rain…….

Hang on………………………….

For some time many of us have known that ‘they’ have been messing with the weather…….

After watching hours of dvd’s/video’s etc I seem to remember someone linking the gulf stream to controlling the weather…..?

Well they are certainly getting some fear energy right now…..

I still cant yet put my finger on why tho…….what are they hoping to gain from doing this?......

Or have I been watching too many dvd’s lol…..

Your thoughts?

In Love and Peace……

[mari]

I'm not watching anymore. I'm fed up with the same old doom-mongering; the news presenters on locations (let out of the studio for a change) , mike in hand & tousled hair, with the inevitable " hey - we're on the telly!" crowd in the background loving it all.
Nature throws a wobbly & there's the usual media feeding frenzy. Do I sound jaded? - you bet.
Icing on the cake for me was this afternoon (monday) & a presenter was talking about the proposed building of all these new homes -( a sizable portion of them on flood plains) & would the govt now give the go -ahead?
I'll wager that they will, after stating the usual 'but there'll be strict guidelines, etc'mantra.
Environmentalists warned decades ago about the stupidity of building on such land - they were of course ignored in favour of the profit motive.
Same will happen again.

[lumukanda]

you know what's interesting? a few years back i went for an interview for a job on a british movie, the subject? the massive flooding of the UK. i didn't take the job, i got another one, but i just thought it was interesting, it's a pretty broad topic, but i have no doubt that this is not completely natural, weather patterns are fucked all over the world.

[paolo]

Well, they promote the desertification of the Mediteranean region which of course means all the moisture has to go elsewhere. Where better than first the more working class regions of Northern England - Sheffield Barnsley and Hull - and then pitching it to the genteel classes of Middle England in Gloscestershire, the Cotswolds and the Home Counties.
A problem created, no doubt the le nina origin will be dumped for the global warming one, and the targets will cry out for the solution of carbon taxes and the subsequent restrictions on free travel and cheap flights for the less well off whilst the rich and superrich continue about their business in the same way.
That jet stream has been deliberately maintained in its southerly projection, whilst a combo of Haarp and chemtrailing have slowed the resultant fronts down to ditch their inundating loads in targetted areas
Wow we can bring in the army, airforce and navy along with the lifeboat, mountain rescue and thge usual emergency services to deal with a real life realtime national emergency
They've been creaming for this work out, wanting it for years, and now's their opportunity

[hagbard_celine]

Well, they promote the desertification of the Mediteranean region which of course means all the moisture has to go elsewhere. Where better than first the more working class regions of Northern England - Sheffield Barnsley and Hull - and then pitching it to the genteel classes of Middle England in Gloscestershire, the Cotswolds and the Home Counties.
A problem created, no doubt the le nina origin will be dumped for the global warming one, and the targets will cry out for the solution of carbon taxes and the subsequent restrictions on free travel and cheap flights for the less well off whilst the rich and superrich continue about their business in the same way.
That jet stream has been deliberately maintained in its southerly projection, whilst a combo of Haarp and chemtrailing have slowed the resultant fronts down to ditch their inundating loads in targetted areas
Wow we can bring in the army, airforce and navy along with the lifeboat, mountain rescue and thge usual emergency services to deal with a real life realtime national emergency
They've been creaming for this work out, wanting it for years, and now's their opportunity

It makes no difference whether these floods are natural or man-made because the the govt will exploit them either way. Though both situations are possible! Yes, HAARP is very real.

The propaganda of the flood works on many fronts: It creates fear and insecurity. The pictures on TV are starting to remind me of the Katrina disaster! It gives us an opportunity to glorify the military; to portray them as the brave heroes we're meant to see them as.

As for the Climate change cult (Have you noticed that it's not called "global warming" any more"?), they win either way. Every extreme weather event is woven into a convoluted arguement to support their case. If it's a heatwave it's easy, but heavy rain is because of climate change. But even cold weather can now be used to support climate change! They can't lose! :rolleyes:See this: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1417462122542337359&q=horizon+the+big+chill&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[lottie]

well my opinion is - its probably engineered (the flooding) and its working two-fold, its supporting/promoting the 'global warming campaign' in a timely fashion (P-R-S) and its probably to hide whats going on elsewhere- check what the governments-politicians-other countries etc etc etc are up to, signing any important papers/documents around now?? i'd say its possibly a distraction as they tend to do this when they want to get away with murder!

[magicmerlin]

I think this is just nature. Take a look at the UK's weather over the centuries and you will see countless examples of 'freak' weather.

[paolo]

I think this is just nature. Take a look at the UK's weather over the centuries and you will see countless examples of 'freak' weather.
Of course there's always freak Weather.That's the cover they hide behind. This is ultra-freak weather. The weather wars against their own population
http://www.weatherwars.info/chemtrails.htm

[largejack]

If this is freak weather then we're having an awful lot of bad luck these days.

I'm afraid there has to be something more to it. Certainly not 'Global warming', that's the patsy I'm afraid; I'm thinking more along the lines of chemtrails or hharp (I don't think it is beyond modern technology to influence weather patterns) or it just might be the increasing gravitational pull of planet X as it looms ever closer.

One thing for sure it's certainly helping those in power who want to create mass fear and panic in the countdown years.

[largejack]

i'd say its possibly a distraction as they tend to do this when they want to get away with murder! QUOTE


Absolutely! Did anyone notice Tony Blair start his new 'job' today as Middle east 'Peace' envoy, or whatever his stupid title is?

[_neo_]

Totally engineered i believe,a convienent cover whilst Blair
and Brown slip into new roles also ticking the order from
chaos box with a bit of global warming fear added as a bonus.
I'm sure they will make plenty on the rebuild to..

[redhead]

This freak weather is man made, its summer for gods sake and it feels like winter, weather modification is real folks just do some research. The chemtrails work in league with microwave towers, the GWEN, ELF tower system and HAARP installations (expanding more each year around the world) to control weather in any direction desired.

I can only guess at the reasons for forcing destructive weather:

-They want to increase their control over our lives and they do that by artificially creating "crisis" situations that "require" drastic and urgent emergency responses. Extreme and destructive weather obviously serves that agenda.

-They want to push the bogus "Global Warming" thesis in order to install draconian controls and greater regulations-making money off of us,all the way down the line. Look how much obscene windfall profits were gained by Cheney's rip-off Haliburton Corporation as a result of the artificially induced Iraq War. There's Big Money to be made in the Emergency Response Game, very big money.

-Big weather storms fill up the News Hour with extensive coverage, pushing other matters off the screen; particularly POLITICAL matters that are robbing you of your liberties and privacy. Diversion is the first rule of Machiavellian subterfuge.

PEACE

RED

[redhead]

On a side note, if people are familiar with the work of Matthew Delooze (how the powers that be get into our subconsious and use various methods to siphon off our energy to use against us), have a look at whats been number one in the UK for a number of weeks now. Imagine all the people singing along with this tune and giving the words energy and power. Heres the chorus

Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we still have each other
You can stand under my Umbrella
You can stand under my Umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh eh eh eh)

If you check out the lyrics theres pleny of other referances to pouring rain etc

Just a thought.

PEACE

RED

[chattanova]

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/9/7/24/f_FloodmapGPXm_8a3754d.jpg

350 000 britains is without water.
Power cuts have already hit 50,000 homes and there are fears that the rising water could knock out a major electricity substation that supplies 500,000 people in and around Gloucester.

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/7/24/f_flood1GETTYm_3c11976.jpg

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/7/24/f_flood3GETTYm_607f150.jpg

With millions of gallons of water from the torrential rain surging downstream, some rivers are expected to be 20ft higher than normal, sending a torrent of dirty water into streets and homes.

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/9/7/24/f_flood4Gettym_7429fe6.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmstandard/article.html?in_article_id=470461&in_page_id=711&ct=5

[truthseeker1980]

Weather modification is very real. What with HAARP and chemtrails, it hasn't stopped raining since the heavy chemtrail day at the start of June.

Last year the BBC reported on the evening news that China had sprayed the sky with a substance, which caused it to rain in an area which had been suffering from drought, apprently they sprayed a metallic like substance which with a chemical reaction created H2O.

This is why i posted that topic last week about starting to record the news, they don't keep it from us, they blatantly put out there for the people who want to notice, but because no-one else remembers when we bring something like that up, we're the ones who are mad, not the sheeple brain washed non remembering people who take the piss.

I was thinking last night, why dont we get some fly posters printed, they don't cost much. we could post them on every HAARP control box next to the masts all over the UK, http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/?action=view&current=Kfcweald1.jpgwith titles such as GLOBAL WARMING OR WEATHER MODIFICATION!! in bold letters then web addresses for info, or MIND CONTROL MASTS?? with the same.

Anyone agree, obviously if this was to be done we would need to be secret about it and not discuss openly on here.

[friendsinthesky]

have a look at whats been number one in the UK for a number of weeks now. Imagine all the people singing along with this tune and giving the words energy and power. Heres the chorus

Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we still have each other
You can stand under my Umbrella
You can stand under my Umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)


If you check out the lyrics theres pleny of other referances to pouring rain etc

Just a thought.

PEACE

REDI so don't like that song, it reminds me of other recent hits that have a particular rhythm.

BTW, The U.K is mimicking Australia. Also, we've already had floods, yet I'm sure more will come.

[whatnofish]

haha thats like giving jack the ripper the job of" working girls welfare officer.....

the only thing i can see why it may be haarp is.... america the britain getting hit.!!!!one year the states then then the uk.? and all we have rammed down our throat is G.warming

[whatnofish]

blair peace envoy!!!!....haha thats like giving jack the ripper the job of" working girls welfare officer.....

the only thing i can see why it may be haarp is.... america the britain getting hit.!!!!one year the states then then the uk.? and all we have rammed down our throat is G.warming

[notaslave]

Global warming, climate chaos

"flip them the bird"

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u22/magswozhere/mooninite.gif

[hagbard_celine]

On a side note, if people are familiar with the work of Matthew Delooze (how the powers that be get into our subconsious and use various methods to siphon off our energy to use against us), have a look at whats been number one in the UK for a number of weeks now. Imagine all the people singing along with this tune and giving the words energy and power. Heres the chorus

Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we still have each other
You can stand under my Umbrella
You can stand under my Umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(ella ella eh eh eh eh eh eh)

If you check out the lyrics theres pleny of other referances to pouring rain etc

Just a thought.

PEACE

RED

It's a very catchy song and Rihana has a lovely voice. A lot of this song's success comes out of the bad weather at the time of its release. Whether that's a coincidence or not is open to debate, but I believe in coincidence less and less with every passing day!

[phoenix1]

Yeah.. enginered.. Weather Manipulation easy con these days with the tech available to the machine,OMG!!!! GLOBAL FUCKIN WARMING !!!!! (Remember The Report From Iron Mountain) or (Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars) ???

.... Also C.O.B.R.A are involved too... British VERY top secret until recently Emergency Management Agency here...

The Brish equivelant of FEMA in the US. They have some awesome powers under Martial Law.. and Civil Law too.

Its hard to find much info on at all on C.O.B.R.A allways googling back to Cobra (without the dotted CAPITAL LETTERS) .. even in a . mil or .gov search ... eith the word (minuites) inguded ... it is very hard for me to get much info on them.

Maybe someone can dig deeper on them, right now I cant get much at all..not suprising .. as the INTRANET there will be on Clampdown.

Involved 9/11. 7/7 etc they are in the plot BIG TIME.

Allready on the Lies Show (The News lol) there was talk of preparation for evacuating London.

If that happens DONT follow EMERGENCY PROCEDURE ... swim like fuck the other way.

Chaires by Brown no doubt now.. this below is an article on them from 2006.. no doubt there are a few more.
SCOURCE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4663369.stm

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Cobra: The UK's emergencies team
Number 10
Tony Blair and Charles Clarke have chaired Cobra meetings
Cobra is the dramatic name for the civil contingencies committee which leads responses to national crises.

The group is named after the Cabinet Office Briefing Room A in the bowels of Downing Street where it normally meets.

It has been convened in recent years for the 7 July London bombings, the fuel protests and 11 September attack.

Its members vary according to the issue being dealt with, and can often include Tony Blair, senior ministers and police and intelligence chiefs.

The committee is meeting now to discuss the UK's first case of bird flu in the wild - after a dead swan was found to have the disease near Cellardyke in Fife, Scotland.

The only minister at Thursday's first meeting is environment minister Ben Bradshaw.

There are also representatives from the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), the Scottish Executive, the Department of Health, the Cabinet Office and 10 Downing Street will.

The seniority of Cobra's members is intended to ensure it gets things done quickly, and ensure that what needs to be done is done.

Cobra meetings are frequently chaired by the prime minister and home secretary, which happened after the London bombings on 7 July in which 56 people died.

Then, the committee covered the investigation and looked at what steps could be taken to avoid further attacks.

A hastily arranged meeting of Cobra was also called following the incidents on the 21 July.

Secure meetings

Cobra does not necessarily meet in Number 10 - there are a number of secure meeting places in the Whitehall area.

An emergency meeting of the committee was called on 11 September 2001 as soon as the enormity of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon became clear.

It was also convened after two suicide car bombings in Istanbul hit the British Consulate General and the HQ of HSBC bank in the city in November 2003, killing 61 people including British Consul-General Roger Short.

The committee considers issues such as whether to invoke the powers contained in part two of the Civil Contingencies Act, which gives considerable extra powers in times of a serious emergency.

They were designed to cope with a far larger incidents than that which struck London on 7 July, particularly one involving chemical or radiological material, such as a nuclear "dirty bomb".

They would allow a minister to suspend sittings of Parliament if necessary and to declare a bank holiday to shut down businesses.

By executive decree, property could be destroyed or requisitioned, assemblies banned, freedom of movement limited, the Armed Forces mobilised and special courts set up to deal with suspects if it was felt another atrocity was planned.



Dont let THEM SELL YOU the FEAR.


All the Love People.. FuckEmPhoenix

[hagbard_celine]

.... Also C.O.B.R.A are involved too... British VERY top secret until recently Emergency Management Agency here...

The Brish equivelant of FEMA in the US. They have some awesome powers under Martial Law.. and Civil Law too.


Every natural disaster the USA has suffered has been twisted into a body-building session for FEMA. We in Britain usually have more gental weather than the States, but the UK govt may well have taken a leaf out of FEMA's book.

[paolo]

Weather modification is very real. What with HAARP and chemtrails, it hasn't stopped raining since the heavy chemtrail day at the start of June.

...........................................
I was thinking last night, why dont we get some fly posters printed, they don't cost much. we could post them on every HAARP control box next to the masts all over the UK, http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/?action=view&current=Kfcweald1.jpgwith titles such as GLOBAL WARMING OR WEATHER MODIFICATION!! in bold letters then web addresses for info, or MIND CONTROL MASTS?? with the same.

Anyone agree, obviously if this was to be done we would need to be secret about it and not discuss openly on here.

Not a bad idea actually. Of course we should also secrete a towerbuster or two nearby to actually disable the perverse multifunctionalism of these ubiquitous environmental and population control mechanisms.
But yes, it would be good to bring to the attention of the passerby that these fuction as haarp relay stations, as well as electronic mind control platforms, and that they allow targetting of particular populations, regarding either mind control or weather control functions.
It would be good if people could create some eye-catching designs for such signage.
I'm not sure that at this stage secrecy is particularly necessary. After all the same forces that control haarp and the mobile phone mast network are also in control of the Echelon electronic message spying and the starwars project. In the UK most paths lead back to Menwith Hill as the main creative destructive centre, while its Pine Gap twin in Australia simultaneously strives to produce desertification in the populous South Eastern areas

[magicmerlin]

Hi everyone - I posted a comment yesterday saying that this may be a natual occurance. I thought I would add a bit more deatil. Please note I am not against you guys, I am simply weighing up the options.

Fist of all I think people are falling for the crap that the media themselves promote all the time, such as 'worst floods on record' etc. However, after the huge 2007 media push on 'CO2 and climate change', I would have though a summer of drought with weeks of 100 degrees weather would have been more appropriate weather manipulation? In my opinion they are already looking like fools because July is going to be cooler than average - although I admit that they could potentially make August a month of record breaking heat, which would give the perfect illustration of a climate going mad (we will have to wait and see of this happens, but if it does, credence is given to the weather manipulation theme).

Back the natural variability of the UK's climate....I have a book on the history of Kent's weather and believe me it is full of 'ultra-freakish' weather, with pictorial evidence. In the book it displays snow storms in June, a frozen english channel, snow as high as buses, the storm of 1987. I could go on and on, but the fact is the media don't talk about this - I urge you to do some research to balance your arguments.

[paolo]

Hi everyone - I posted a comment yesterday saying that this may be a natual occurance. I thought I would add a bit more deatil. Please note I am not against you guys, I am simply weighing up the options.

Fist of all I think people are falling for the crap that the media themselves promote all the time, such as 'worst floods on record' etc. However, after the huge 2007 media push on 'CO2 and climate change', I would have though a summer of drought with weeks of 100 degrees weather would have been more appropriate weather manipulation? In my opinion they are already looking like fools because July is going to be cooler than average - although I admit that they could potentially make August a month of record breaking heat, which would give the perfect illustration of a climate going mad (we will have to wait and see of this happens, but if it does, credence is given to the weather manipulation theme).

Back the natural variability of the UK's climate....I have a book on the history of Kent's weather and believe me it is full of 'ultra-freakish' weather, with pictorial evidence. In the book it displays snow storms in June, a frozen english channel, snow as high as buses, the storm of 1987. I could go on and on, but the fact is the media don't talk about this - I urge you to do some research to balance your arguments.

Hot and dry is being applied to the desertification happening around the Med at this very moment, to the extension of the Sahara, to the South East of Australia. All that removed moisture has to be dumped somewhere. Where better than on the pleasant middle class fairly comfortably off and liberal-minded people of semirural England.
Let the military rescue them from their well-saturated dreams, and let them be grateful for small comforts
I long to see some irate burgher on the telly say "the reptilian bastards are responsible for this" as this would sadly seem to be the case

[phoenix1]

Every natural disaster the USA has suffered has been twisted into a body-building session for FEMA. We in Britain usually have more gental weather than the States, but the UK govt may well have taken a leaf out of FEMA's book.

Hi Hagbard .. yep agreed , natural and unnatural.. FEMA and it above government are allways looking at new and contrived ways to flex their muscles.

The weather here is less severe than the States usually .. I remember it used to go like this.. like is America had bad snowstorms for instance... we would allways catch the tail end shortly after. If it was hot there.. we could expect some high pressure and nice weather. It aint the same as when i was a kid thats for sure .. at 42 I see the difference in this lifetime..as you prolly do aswell.

Yep me I think the US has allways been the "Testing Ground" for new dynamic weather experiments.. and other equally insidious things.. wasn't is ex Jesuit (whisleblower) Alberto Rivera that called the US "The greatest Jesuit Success" ?? or words like that ??

Britain are not bieng slow to see the results in that testing ground are they?? with 7/7 and so forth coming leter on... I would most deffinately say that
they are using the same techniches for fear based control with C.O.B.R.A as FEMA is using over there.

Which reminds me (Thanks H) i'll heve to did out my thread I never did finish on
Opperation Cablesplicer.. sometime.

All the Love HC.

Phoenix;):cool:

[lottie]

.... Also C.O.B.R.A are involved too...

yes and do you remember how many times C.O.B.R.A. was mentioned suring the 'London/Scotland Incidents' a few weeks ago? they couldnt wait to say it on every news channel - flaunting the serpent right under our noses...:rolleyes:

[magicmerlin]

Ok, I seem to be in the minority thinking this may be a natural phenomena (and I am not some anti-conspiracy person trying to distort your views, far from it generally). However, you seem to be suggesting that these floods are a complete freak occurance - by doing that I feel you are actually falling for the media hype which most people on this forum hate. If this is the actions of the NWO then why the hell isn't this flooding worse?

Having done some more research, I can cite 3 other summers in the last 50 years with downpours matching last week's in volume and geographical extent: 25 Aug 1986; 28 July 1969 & 10 July 1968. On the latter date, the area with rainfall totals exceeding 4" was much larger with 65 rain gauges exceeding this threshold. And the resulting floods were much more extensive than anything this summer. The hot summers of the last decade have been very unusual and the 'normal' UK summers are somewhere between what we are now experiencing and what we have become used to.

So all this quoting of unprecedented rainfall is nonsense. If this is being created by human forces/technology, than was this also to blame in 1968, 1969 and 1986?

Furthermore, yes this flooding bad, but it is not a total disaster. If I was wanting to control the weather like you suggest is being done, then why not make it worse? Why not have a flood which kills hundreds and REALLY scares the hell out of people?

Thanks fo considering my words, I'm not against your cause and I believe in the hell this world is becomming.....but I will continue arguing this one until I am convinced otherwise.

[magicmerlin]

Ok, I seem to be in the minority thinking this may be a natural phenomena (and I am not some anti-conspiracy person trying to distort your views, far from it generally). However, you seem to be suggesting that these floods are a complete freak occurance - by doing that I feel you are actually falling for the media hype which most people on this forum hate. If this is the actions of the NWO then why the hell isn't this flooding worse?

Having done some more research, I can cite 3 other summers in the last 50 years with downpours matching last week's in volume and geographical extent: 25 Aug 1986; 28 July 1969 & 10 July 1968. On the latter date, the area with rainfall totals exceeding 4" was much larger with 65 rain gauges exceeding this threshold. And the resulting floods were much more extensive than anything this summer. The hot summers of the last decade have been very unusual and the 'normal' UK summers are somewhere between what we are now experiencing and what we have become used to.

So all this quoting of unprecedented rainfall is nonsense. If this is being created by human forces/technology, than was this also to blame in 1968, 1969 and 1986?

Furthermore, yes this flooding bad, but it is not a total disaster. If I was wanting to control the weather like you suggest is being done, then why not make it worse? Why not have a flood which kills hundreds and REALLY scares the hell out of people?

Thanks for considering my words, I'm not against your cause and I believe in the hell this world is becomming.....but I will continue arguing this one until I am convinced otherwise.

[lottie]

Ok, I seem to be in the minority thinking this may be a natural phenomena (and I am not some anti-conspiracy person trying to distort your views, far from it generally). However, you seem to be suggesting that these floods are a complete freak occurance - by doing that I feel you are actually falling for the media hype which most people on this forum hate. If this is the actions of the NWO then why the hell isn't this flooding worse?

Having done some more research, I can cite 3 other summers in the last 50 years with downpours matching last week's in volume and geographical extent: 25 Aug 1986; 28 July 1969 & 10 July 1968. On the latter date, the area with rainfall totals exceeding 4" was much larger with 65 rain gauges exceeding this threshold. And the resulting floods were much more extensive than anything this summer. The hot summers of the last decade have been very unusual and the 'normal' UK summers are somewhere between what we are now experiencing and what we have become used to.

So all this quoting of unprecedented rainfall is nonsense. If this is being created by human forces/technology, than was this also to blame in 1968, 1969 and 1986?

Furthermore, yes this flooding bad, but it is not a total disaster. If I was wanting to control the weather like you suggest is being done, then why not make it worse? Why not have a flood which kills hundreds and REALLY scares the hell out of people?

Thanks fo considering my words, I'm not against your cause and I believe in the hell this world is becomming.....but I will continue arguing this one until I am convinced otherwise.

ok this is fair comment- i agree- i suppose i am just looking at it from a 'conspiracy perspective' because i think its something they are more than capable of (and nothing surprises me anymore!) and also im just looking back over the last 26yrs and thinking- 'this is the worst rainfall ive ever witnessed in MY lifetime'- i think thats the point- my lifetime is just the blink of an eye so far!! bu i still think it needs to be debated because we are all aware of what they are capable of and what the agenda is that they are so desperately pushing towards! :)

[phoenix1]

yes and do you remember how many times C.O.B.R.A. was mentioned suring the 'London/Scotland Incidents' a few weeks ago? they couldnt wait to say it on every news channel - flaunting the serpent right under our noses...:rolleyes:


Hi Lottie darlin ....yep how could we forget it ... totally letting us know they are there (General Pubic thinking its such a good idea to have C.O.B.R.A there.

BTW Hope hope you and N are not having too much hassle bieng Mods..Maybe you will need to moderate me lol... I doubt it though. lol

All the Love Lottie Darlin.. ya little sweety you !!:p:p:D

A XX

[lookfar]

BTW Hope hope you and N are not having too much hassle bieng Mods..Maybe you will need to moderate me lol... I doubt it though. lol
A XX

Hehe Phoenix honey, you'd better not need "moderating" or you'll have both of us to contend with, lol!!:p ;) :eek:

Nah it's not been too bad sweetie, well so far anyhow... :eek::p You get my PM?:)

Oh & to be on topic with this thread, I personally think it's a bit of both... engineered & natural. & yeah COBRA has reared it's serpent head quite a lot lately, hmmmm talk about in your face!! :rolleyes::(

Anyhow on an upnote, I reckon we should all be doing our own little bit to combat this crappy weather... we all have the power & if we stuck together & kept at it I reckon we'd see drastic changes to it for the better!!! :D Beat em at their own game!!!

[garth]

Hot and dry is being applied to the desertification happening around the Med at this very moment, to the extension of the Sahara, to the South East of Australia. All that removed moisture has to be dumped somewhere. Where better than on the pleasant middle class fairly comfortably off and liberal-minded people of semirural England.
Let the military rescue them from their well-saturated dreams, and let them be grateful for small comforts
I long to see some irate burgher on the telly say "the reptilian bastards are responsible for this" as this would sadly seem to be the case

Your not wrong, as dry as toast over here, not rained for years in some places still. Where I live we have had 1/2 our normal average rainfall & were the lucky ones....mongrels have been chem trailing the hell out of us to:mad:

[magicmerlin]

Thanks for your considered response - as I say, I am not saying I am right and you are wrong, I'm just making a debate because I don't think for sure anyone can answer this issue for sure either way?

I think perhaps the biggest issue here is the fact that the media are not 'hounding' the government over the fact that this July is going to be colder than 'average'! I mean, surely we can't have reduced our 'carbon footprint' enough already to make the world cooler lol. The media should be making a big thing about this.

[truthseeker1980]

Ok, I seem to be in the minority thinking this may be a natural phenomena (and I am not some anti-conspiracy person trying to distort your views, far from it generally). However, you seem to be suggesting that these floods are a complete freak occurance - by doing that I feel you are actually falling for the media hype which most people on this forum hate. If this is the actions of the NWO then why the hell isn't this flooding worse?

Having done some more research, I can cite 3 other summers in the last 50 years with downpours matching last week's in volume and geographical extent: 25 Aug 1986; 28 July 1969 & 10 July 1968. On the latter date, the area with rainfall totals exceeding 4" was much larger with 65 rain gauges exceeding this threshold. And the resulting floods were much more extensive than anything this summer. The hot summers of the last decade have been very unusual and the 'normal' UK summers are somewhere between what we are now experiencing and what we have become used to.

So all this quoting of unprecedented rainfall is nonsense. If this is being created by human forces/technology, than was this also to blame in 1968, 1969 and 1986?

Furthermore, yes this flooding bad, but it is not a total disaster. If I was wanting to control the weather like you suggest is being done, then why not make it worse? Why not have a flood which kills hundreds and REALLY scares the hell out of people?

Thanks for considering my words, I'm not against your cause and I believe in the hell this world is becomming.....but I will continue arguing this one until I am convinced otherwise.

They have had the weather manipulation technology way before those freak weather incidents happened, i'm not against what you are saying but someone posted this link the other day, together with other links i've read, has swayed my oppinion to the manipulation answer.
http://www.greatdreams.com/weather/weather_manipulation.htm
There's alot to read, but it all starts to make sense, Brussels have called meetings to try and get the real uses for this technology out.

Makes you think why Michael Fish said there would be no hurricane in 1987, then suddenly there was. The why was the flooding not really bad answer, maybe they are testing the water, (excuse the pun) seeing how far the floods spread with just one particulary small downpour. Imagine if it rained like that for over 12 hours, the whole country would be under water.

[redhead]

http://www.greatdreams.com/weather/weather_manipulation.htm

Fantastic article truthseeker, this is a must read for anybody researching or intrested in finding out about HAARP/ weather modification.

Heres a quote from the above article

World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that

"US military scientists · are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods."(2)

[phoenix1]

Hehe Phoenix honey, you'd better not need "moderating" or you'll have both of us to contend with, lol!!

HA !! Well that wold be interesting girls lol...what ya gonna do well maybe I oughta get more naughty.. then maybe I will get a good moderating LOL Hmmmm LOL :p

Nah it's not been too bad sweetie, well so far anyhow... :eek::p You get my PM?:)
Well you say you aint busy ??? hmm OK well i know I dont envy ya lol.. good choice of mods if we gotta have em ,can't think of anyone more committed as you pair glad you can take it on .. I couldn't.. for my own reasons ...I wouldnt want the "privallages" nor the bullshit;) Yep got your PM sweety... and i'll be on it as soon as possible k... you are a litle darlin for as per the N i know..sweet, loving , caring and committed to fucking them up! Vive la Change (if thats how they speel it in french lol)

Oh & to be on topic with this thread, I personally think it's a bit of both... engineered & natural. & yeah COBRA has reared it's serpent head quite a lot lately, hmmmm talk about in your face!! :rolleyes::(
On topic ? Whats that ?? Could be a bitta both,,, but KNOW this they have the kit and they will use it


Anyhow on an upnote, I reckon we should all be doing our own little bit to combat this crappy weather... we all have the power & if we stuck together & kept at it I reckon we'd see drastic changes to it for the better!!! :D Beat em at their own game!!!

Allways with the positives N .. yep the only way to combat fear and negativity is with positivity to bring the ballance back. Its a shame they named tis unit COBRA as a snake is allied with knowledge and more importantly Wisdom.. allways has been... the serpent has allways taken a bum rap.. with no real justification ,, especially when viewd in Biblical bullshit terminology.. in some places the Serpent is still known as a positive life elemenal... not recently in this forum though.. all to often people do not see serpent wisdom... but theres no point me debating mant things here as it would take me an eternity and .. people dont tnd to see through missconceptions on here.. I mean If the Serpent is depicted as evil and with total bad intent ..it must be right ... right??;) Wrong.. its not an evil symbolism.. a prrversion on real truth ....?? Yes
All the Best Galls

MMMMWWWWWWWWAAAAA!!!!!!Phoenix


Yepgotya PM .. reply as soon as BabyXXXXX

[hagbard_celine]

The floods have come to my town.

I was talking to a 77-year-old lady who's lived in Oxford all her life and she's never seen floods this bad.

My own home is not in a danger zone, but I feel very sorry for those that are. A friend of mine has about 6 inches of water in his house.

[umbrex]

Hi…..

Last night and again today my mum phoned me, and was going on about the floods and how bad it was (my mum bless her frets about everything)…..Then whilst I have been out today, that’s all I heard everyone talking about……..

I don’t normally watch tv, but this evening I put the ‘news’ on! Just to see exactly how bad it is……And what it was that was getting many people talking about and feeling so scared about…..

Yes there were pictures on the news about the damage and the upsetting sites that is worrying many people…..
Then this chap came on….(don’t know who it was lol…) saying why it was happening….. I wasn’t really listening, until he started going on about man made global warming (!!!) etc etc, then he started talking about that it is the gulf stream that is bringing the rain…….

Hang on………………………….

For some time many of us have known that ‘they’ have been messing with the weather…….

After watching hours of dvd’s/video’s etc I seem to remember someone linking the gulf stream to controlling the weather…..?

Well they are certainly getting some fear energy right now…..

I still cant yet put my finger on why tho…….what are they hoping to gain from doing this?......

Or have I been watching too many dvd’s lol…..

Your thoughts?

In Love and Peace……

check out the sun and other planets warming up before u proceed any further........

[juttkeys]

Hi this is my first post so be gentle.....
It seems obvious to me that whatever the weather may be it will be turned around to the advantage of the global warmists 'our fault' brigade thus we need taxing... Imagine a lovely hot summer this year.. Mmmmm ... but its our fault too much sun, hail, cloud, snow, rain, heat etc I do feel for the people in Tewksbury and the areas around the M5 and junction M50, I personally saw a little of the devastation myself on my journeys to Cornwall and back last week. I so despise the rubberknecking glamourising 'media'.... how we need to turn off our BBC FOX CNN 'news' Im sorry they are so pathetic.

[john white]

Hi this is my first post so be gentle.....
It seems obvious to me that whatever the weather may be it will be turned around to the advantage of the global warmists 'our fault' brigade thus we need taxing... Imagine a lovely hot summer this year.. Mmmmm ... but its our fault too much sun, hail, cloud, snow, rain, heat etc I do feel for the people in Tewksbury and the areas around the M5 and junction M50, I personally saw a little of the devastation myself on my journeys to Cornwall and back last week. I so despise the rubberknecking glamourising 'media'.... how we need to turn off our BBC FOX CNN 'news' Im sorry they are so pathetic.

Nice post! :)

;)

And your quite right, whatever the weather actually is it is proof of something or other from the climate change gang: its becomming reflexive. People say "oh must be global Warming" now whenever the weather is simply not what they expected/hoped for that day!

[somewarez]

Welcome Jutt :) Hi all :)

This subject I am sceptical about. It seems that its a *good* disaster for Mr G Brown to look good with the fixing, so soon after his (non PUBLIC elected position of power... LOL democracy my arse) The timing of it seems very suspicious. Maybe I think a little more into things than I should, but I don't feel that this is natural.

It seems to me like a Public relations oppottunity for Mr Brown (he deals with this well and will pick up a lot of support for the next election). He really doesn't have long to get the people support behind him.

So we're getting bombarded with mass global warming and global weather change theories from the establishment. Don't get me wrong, I am all for the cut down on pollution! BUT I feel there is something behind this, I haven't studied anyone else's theories on this as I like to look at what is happening and then study what other people think so I can get a view point of others.

I think A:- Were trying to surpress up and coming global communities, such as China and India. Making them cut their omissions so that they cant industrialize as fast.

B:- We're trying to make the public cut down on electricity supplies for some unknown to me reason.... The only answer I can think of for this, is that they are suddenly finding that they need more electricity and power for some technology...

call me paranoid or just take a few minutes to think why they may need more electricity suddenly..

If this is purely a freak weather dissaster then Its timing has sort of been strange, maybe I just watch too many videos and I am trying to hard to see proof of what is going on. I do feel all answers are only found when you know the question.

anyway just my views upon this :)

takecare all

Warez

[myeika]

Hi juttkeya

Welcome......

Your so right about turning the hypno box off too! lol

Have fun

[hagbard_celine]

It seems obvious to me that whatever the weather may be it will be turned around to the advantage of the global warmists 'our fault' brigade tI.

Too right. You must have noticed how it's been "rebranded" (:D) as Climate change; it's never called Global warming anymore.

The people you perceptively label the "our fault" brigade can't lose! If there's aheatwave then they jump on their original arguement, but if the weather's wet they say it's because of increased heat creating more water vapour. But they still win if the weather's cold! If we get a cold winter they say it's because the Gulf Stream is weakening from man-made climate change! it's the ultimate Heads-I-win-Tails-you-lose situation!

[dondaz]

Allready on the Lies Show (The News lol) there was talk of preparation for evacuating London.

If that happens DONT follow EMERGENCY PROCEDURE ... swim like fuck the other way

Too bloody right mate! DO NOT FALL FOR THE SERPENTS DECIET (COBRA)


To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's
doing is good . . .
Ideology - that is what gives devildoing its long-sought
justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steatfastness
and determination. That is the social theory Which helps to make
his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and others' eyes, so
that he won't hear reproaches and curses but will receive praise
and honors."
-Russian dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn

The Gulag Archipelago - A masterpiece everyone should read!

Good thread;)

[them]

RE COBR

There are loads of Cabinet Office Briefing Rooms that the Civil Contingencies Committee can meet in. I think there are at least 15 of them all differing in size.

I went to a session on contingency planning for Bird Flu there once. We were split into different rooms, I was in COBRG. Not nearly as evocative as COBRA, is it?

[chattanova]

25 000 000 Homeless In South Asia Flooding

At least 25 million people have been displaced by flooding in South Asia as the worst monsoon rains in decades continue to hit the region.

More than 250 people have died over the past 11 days after torrential monsoon rains lashed northern India, Bangladesh and Nepal.

About 10 million are homeless or cut off in their villages in the three countries, with little or no access to food and health care.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ABBA4685-1076-4692-A4B0-C578993FEAB2.htm

[cruise4]

Just looking at piers Corbyn and Weather Prediction based on the Moon and Sun and found this site:

http://www.predictweather.com/articles.asp?ID=39

From the page referenced above:


Floods..not unusual

Apparently now it's official: that the heavier rainfall in Britain is being caused by climate change. But there have been lots of previous floods, in 2004 in north Cornwall, in 2002 in Shrewsbury, in 2000, the Severn - that flooded and Shropshire got hit, with peak flows on five major rivers - Thames, Trent, Severn, Wharfe, Dee - in October and November 2000. It lasted 90 days and at first they said the river levels were the highest for sixty years - then they decided that rainfall for September to November 2000 was the highest since records began in 1766 which was 230 years - then they revised that and said the floods of 2000 over England and Wales were of an intensity not seen in 270 years, which takes one back to 1630.
So there's always a competition to outdo the previous historian.
There was a big flood also in 1947 when 3,000 properties were flooded in Oxford alone, and some 1,000 km2 (386 mi2) of farmland was under water for up to three months. Also, most of Britain was covered in flood waters in 1894, 1875 and 1852. For instance, in 1894, up to 75 mm (3 inches) of rain fell EVERY DAY in southern Britain between October 23 and November 16, leading to severe flooding throughout central and southern England. The difference is that now they are raving-on that global warming, due to driving SUVs and flying in aeroplanes, is somehow to blame for floods. Well, what was to blame back in 1894? Were the horses walking too fast? What about 1630 - no factories, no cars, no emissions, so what caused the floods? And, if nature caused them THEN, why couldn't nature be causing them NOW?
The logic is flawed. If climate was changing then forward predictions would be impossible. If climate was changing and this was known, then how it was changing would be known and longrange weather would be known. If such was the case then the recent floods would have been predicted months, years ago. Yer forecasters in Britian have miserably failed to adequately warn of these worst floods in 60 years for Gloucestershire and now 10,000 are homeless and 45,000 without power.

It is nature, but people do have to take some responsibnility for building in the wrong place. Flooding is not always about rain. Often it is about management of rivers and stopbank maintenance by regional councils, and repeat tragedies can come abouit because of people building dwellings on flood-prone reclaimed land. The New Orleans event was due to human neglect of the levee system and in NZ early action on river diversions after a flood event has sometimes ensured that it hasn't happened again despite similar heavy rain. The news channels are carrying a story about similar UK floods in 1947. One wonders if ANY preventative action was taken after them. But it seems the opposite is the case. Two million homes have been built in the natural floodplain of rivers or the coast and are now vulnerable to flooding - which is property, land and assets to the value of £214 billion that is at risk in England and Wales.

Well, I can understand why global warming would be the official line, they would not sell as many newspapers if they said a completely non-comforting "NOT AS BAD AS 1947" just when everyone is suddenly homeless. Much better to gain SOME little joy out of the fact that it is the worst ever, because to those poor uninsured people who have lost everything it IS the worst ever.
What is surprising is that the national news has not (yet) picked up on yesterday's farmers' reports that many animals had drowned in the flooded fields and that a large number of crops, particularly potatoes, were totally ruined. Home grown vegetable prices are bound to increase considerably.

Coming up for UK

Wed July 25th, fine weather coming in from the SW of course it will hit Ireland first
Thursday 26th, a big fine spell comes right across Ireland and Britain
Fri 27th, fine and warm right across both land masses
Sat 28th, hot and dry across W to E
Sun 29th, hot again
Mon 30th, v hot
Tues 31st, more hot
Wed Aug 1st, cooler, odd showers
Thurs 2nd, hot up in N Ireland and Scot, but cooler south of those, rain S of Ireland and S of Eng
Fri, 3rd, the hot spell up north passes over, a bit of rain in Dublin mixed with fine periods
Sat, 4th, rain widespread but coming from SE so not in great quantity
Sun, 5th, Ireland dry and fine but England rain
Mon 6th, changeable in Ireland , hot in N Atlantic but wet in E
Tues, 7th, wet
Wed 8th, wet
Thurs 9th, dry again in Ireland , wet in England
Fri 10th, dry everywhere for the two land masses except E and SE of England
Sat 11th, wet again
Sun 12th, a lot of rain everywhere, big chance of flooding
Mon 13th, wet everywhere
Tues 14th, wet everywhere
Wed 15th, wet
Thurs 16th, starting to clear in Ireland but still wet England
Fri 17th, clear and dry but not hot
Sat 18th, quite hot across Britain but dry and mild in Ireland
Sun 19th, dry in Ireland , some rain in England
Mon 20th, v hot in Ireland and W of England
Tues 21st, more v hot temps everywhere
Wed 22nd, starting to cloud over again
Thurs 23rd, dry and warm over Ireland (SD)
Fri 24th, hot again
Sat 25th, dry, warm
Sun 26th, dry and warm, hot in the north
Mon 27th, dry, cooler
Tues 28th, dry, cooler
Wed 29th, starting to go wet again
Thurs 30th, wet in Dublin but drier in N Ireland and Scot
Fri 31st, dry everywhere

Piers Corbyn on June Floods:
Today Piers is a respected astrophysicist and through his company Weather Action is in demand for his predictions.

This summer was supposed to be the warmest on record, according to some experts. Piers, however, had other ideas and in January was back to his betting ways, raising the stakes and inviting bets from anyone who would put their money where there mouth was.

“Nobody came forward to place a bet,” he says.

Piers has again been proved largely correct with his weather predictions. He warned about the large scale flooding of June six months ago.

And as far as the rest of the summer - what summer?
“Just don’t throw away those wellies and woollies,” he says.
http://www.shropshirestar.co.uk/2007/07/is-something-fishy-going-on/


Piers Corbyn Website: http://www.weatheraction.com/