Lunar Society: the "true" Illuminati

[swethirte]

Forget all the guff about the Illuminati, they were just a failed offshoot of Freemasonry. Take a look instead at the Lunar Society:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Society

The best way to hide something is to put it in full view, and the Lunar Society have been known about by historians for two centuries, yet are they ever mentioned by conspiracy theorists? I've never seen them mentioned, anyway. Look at its membership - both grandfathers of Charles Darwin (yes, both of them), the founders of the Industrial Revolution (Matthew Boulton, James Watt, Richard Arkwright etc.), the founders of the American Revolution (Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson), the founders of the Scientific Revolution (Joseph Priestly, Antoine Lavoisier), and much else besides.

So why has it been virtually ignored? What's going on here?

[boots]

Interesting.

As the name Luna being of course meaning the moon is an enigma in of it's self.

There are some funny things going on with the moon, regarding NASA and there cover ups.

Will check it out later.

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[swethirte]

Interesting.

As the name Luna being of course meaning the moon is an enigma in of it's self.

There are some funny things going on with the moon, regarding NASA and there cover ups.

Will check it out later.

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The society was called the Lunar Society because it held its meetings on the full moon.

[boots]

The Lunar Men who shaped the future http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif

http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/db/media/lrg/1951_S_00088_00008.jpg
http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif
Murdock locomotive | © Thinktank Trust | Come and see it in the Power Up gallery at Thinktank
http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif
This miniature locomotive (http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/story_page.php?id=11&type=fo&page=1&now=240) was the very first self-propelled vehicle in England. Steam moved a tiny 20mm piston inside a small cylinder, which gave power for the vehicle to travel. It was designed in about 1784 by William Murdock (http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/story_page.php?id=11&type=fo&page=1&now=241), a friend and employee of Matthew Boulton and James Watt, members of the famous Lunar Society of Birmingham.
Between about 1760 and 1800, the ‘Lunar Men’ made many experiments, discoveries, innovations and inventions. Because of them industrial Birmingham also became known as an intellectual and scientific centre.
Find out more about the Society and its members..

[swethirte]

The Lunar Men who shaped the future http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif

http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/db/media/lrg/1951_S_00088_00008.jpg
http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif
Murdock locomotive | © Thinktank Trust | Come and see it in the Power Up gallery at Thinktank
http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/images/bit.gif
This miniature locomotive (http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/story_page.php?id=11&type=fo&page=1&now=240) was the very first self-propelled vehicle in England. Steam moved a tiny 20mm piston inside a small cylinder, which gave power for the vehicle to travel. It was designed in about 1784 by William Murdock (http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/story_page.php?id=11&type=fo&page=1&now=241), a friend and employee of Matthew Boulton and James Watt, members of the famous Lunar Society of Birmingham.
Between about 1760 and 1800, the ‘Lunar Men’ made many experiments, discoveries, innovations and inventions. Because of them industrial Birmingham also became known as an intellectual and scientific centre.
Find out more about the Society and its members..

And it still exists too. Or rather, was resurrected around 1990.

[cheeney1]

I Think you Are on to something here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Enlightenment

This is a Branch off of These Turkeys and Quess What some are FreeMasons as Well

[boots]

And it still exists too. Or rather, was resurrected around 1990.

Yes I saw that that swethirte. Mmmmm.

Would like to explore this further. When i came back.;)

[swethirte]

There's also a link to the Hellfire Club, through Benjamin Franklin, who was a member of both.

[lessgov2007]

Very interesting...

A couple weeks ago or so I put together some general research regarding the origins of the Illuminati in response to a radio show host. It's a little to extensive to past here, but I'll leave a small portion of the material, and a link to view the rest.

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Founded in 1560, the Roshaniya were a mystery school, political movement, and army all rolled into one. While an Islamic sect on the surface the Roshaniya operated under a highly mystic doctrine and it's founder, Bayezid Ansari, was known as the "Apostle of Light". Similiar to the Alumbrados the Roshaniya also had a practice of intense meditations known as "khilwats" where they proportedly were able to communicate with the Supreme Being(10) and recieve premonition. Ansari wrote a number of books and raised his Illuminati up in arms against the Mughal empire. Branded a religious heretic, Ansari was mockingly dubbed the "Apostle of Darkness" and the Roshaniya movement is said to have ended in 1736 with the death of their last leader. However, Roshaniya teaching says that the spirits of their deceased members would remain to enjoy time on Earth with full knowledge of their past lives and the ability to act through the bodies of still living members.

The Illuminaten of Bavaria was created by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 and are by far the most controversial sect of the Illuminati. Depending on who you ask, they were either one of the most the most powerful secret societies of all time or one of the most impotent. They were either the "real Illuminati" or poor imitations of the real Illuminati. They were either quashed 1786, or they are still in operation today. Much literature on this order is slanted to the point of being nearly worthless. But fortunately there are many writings from the Illuminaten themselves available. The book "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by James Robison republishes numerous letters of correspondence between members of the Illuminaten where their goals and plans are outlined. Founder Adam Weishaupt, known in correspendence as "Spartacus", describes how the mainly academic and political Illuminaten was structured in the image of a mystic sect. Weishaupt envisioned himself as the creator of a new religion. The holy faith of Reason.

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Mysterious Beginnings
(1) Islamic Parallels

"Sufi historian Indries Shah traces the name of the Illuminati back to a verse in the Koran which mentions a shining star..."
- Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger

See Patar and the Judean Illuminator for ancient Egyptian and Judean connections to the "Illuminati".

"The term 'Illuminati' was used by one early writer, Menendez Pelayo, as early as 1492 and is attributable to a group known as the 'Alumbrados' of Spain. The Alumbrados were said to receive secret knowledge from an unknown higher source, resulting in superior human intelligence. This group was condemned by an edict of the Grand Inquisition in 1623..."
"Some writers claim that a group know as the 'Illuminated Ones' was founded by Joachim of Floris in the eleventh century and taught a primitive, supposedly Christian doctrine of 'poverty and equality'."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"The sixteenth century saw the rise of a powerful society based upon a secret cult, in the mountains of Afghanistan - the Roshaniya, Illuminated ones."
"The earliest figure named in the history of the cult is one Bayezid Ansari, of Afghanistan, whose family claimed descent from the Ansar - the 'Helpers', who assisted Mohammed after his flight from Mecca nearly fourteen hundred years ago. As a reward for this service, he stated, his ancestors had been granted initiation into the mysteries of the Ishmaelite religion: the secret, inner training which dated from Abraham's rebuilding of the Temple at Mecca, the mystical Hiram."
"Not far from Peshawar, which is now in the north-west of Pakistan, Bayezid set up a small school, where he carefully coached those who had been initiated by him in the knowledge of the supernatural that he claimed. A period of probation was expected from each candidate, during which he would to into periods of concealment or meditation, known as khilwat - silence. During this time he was to receive the illumination which was emanated from the supreme being, who desired a class of perfect men- and women- to carry out the organization and direction of the world."

Merchants and soldiers "contributed lavishly to the chief's upkeep and his most expensive military, political and espionage system." At this stage of success, Bayezid now preached that there was "no after-life of the kind currently believed in: no reward or punishment, only a spirit state which was completely different from earthly life. The spirits, if they belonged to the Order, could continue to enjoy themselves and be earthly powers, acting through living members....Eat, drink and be merry. Gain power, look after yourself. You have no allegiance except to the Order, he told them: and all humanity which cannot identify itself by our secret sign is our lawful prey."

"Forty years after the last religio-military leader of the Afghan Illuminate Ones died, a society of the same name (the Illuminati) came into being in Germany, formed, it is said, by Adam Weishaupt, the young professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University. Coincidences of date and beliefs connect these Bavarian Illuminati with the Afghan ones, and also with other cults which called themselves 'Illuminated'."
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies

One of my correspondents has pointed out that in Mary Shelly's novel Frankenstein, Victor Frankenstein was also in Ingoldstatdt around 1790 creating his famous monster. "Coincidence...or was there something Mary Shelly was trying to tell us?"
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If you'd like to read the rest http://lessgov2007.blogspot.com/2009/05/roshaniyailluminati.html

[dawnismygoddess]

I've said it once, I'll say it again:


The Lunar, Solar, & Stellar cults have never gone away.


BTW, that would be Illuminary (for Lunar), not Illuminati.

[swethirte]

Personally I don't believe the Illuminati are all they're cracked up to be. If anything, the emphasis on the Illuminati derives from an attempt to divert attention from the true power brokers, who were in full view all the time, in the Lunar Society, which really has shaped the world we live in.

[creamspyder]

.... the Moon is considered the 'foe' of the the "Sun" (son of god?)

[swethirte]

.... the Moon is considered the 'foe' of the the "Sun" (son of god?)

The full moon is also traditionally the time for witchcraft and things like that.

[dawnismygoddess]

I think the international bankers have had a lot more sway...

think about it: who's effecting your life more - crazy mystics or those in control of your currency? (And therefore: wars, governments, conditions of living, etc)

[watson_k]

Forget all the guff about the Illuminati, they were just a failed offshoot of Freemasonry. Take a look instead at the Lunar Society:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Society

The best way to hide something is to put it in full view, and the Lunar Society have been known about by historians for two centuries, yet are they ever mentioned by conspiracy theorists? I've never seen them mentioned, anyway. Look at its membership - both grandfathers of Charles Darwin (yes, both of them), the founders of the Industrial Revolution (Matthew Boulton, James Watt, Richard Arkwright etc.), the founders of the American Revolution (Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson), the founders of the Scientific Revolution (Joseph Priestly, Antoine Lavoisier), and much else besides.

So why has it been virtually ignored? What's going on here?

Seeing as The Moon rules the Mental, and these men are intellectuals, The Lunar Society is a very fitting name. Illuminatus means Enlightened. These people you speak of here were involved in the age of Enlightenment, it is possible they are the Illuminati. - Well were...

[decim]

The "hebrew" calendar is lunar oriented.

[1776]

I think the international bankers have had a lot more sway...

think about it: who's effecting your life more - crazy mystics or those in control of your currency? (And therefore: wars, governments, conditions of living, etc)

Sure, and you are right. BUT -- look behind the international bankers to the men controlling them, and who do you see?

Did a light bulb go off yet in your head? ;)