1914?

[kay123]

After seeing the 11:11 thread, I remembered something that is currently troubling my cousin.

As a bit of backstory, he was brought up in the Jehovahs Witness cult and eventually "broke free" around ten years ago. Of course, given all the brainwashing they do I'm pretty certain he just sort of blocks any thought into the "deeper meaning" into the back of his mind which may possibly be causing this? I don't know.

He is seeing 1914 everywhere. As soon as the time 19:14 appears on a clock, he looks at it and has said he doesn't feel any desire to stop looking until it turns to 19:15. He's done it countless times in front of me and apparently he "just gets a feeling to look at the time" as soon as it turns to 19:14.

1914 was the start of the first world war and was also a significant year for Jehovahs Witnesses: The Witnesses interpretation, as set forth in pages 136-141 of their You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, extracts a prophecy which sets 1914 as the year in which Christ begins to rule as king of the "heavenly government." but I'm just curious as to what you guys think could be causing this/what it could possibly mean?

[nambo]

Hey Kay, have a look at the post I did in this thread, it might help, http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77858&page=2

Chances are he might feel a bit damned by leaving the JWs, tell him to check out some of the JW forums where people in the know can help him see that though they might have a lot more truth than Christendom in general, they are still not the chosen religion, that doesnt come untill the real two witnesses from Revelation return and show the real way.

As an example, tell him to look up Jehovahs Witnesses joined United Nations.

[dont_play_nice_]

Former Witness here also.
That year to them is important as the time they believe Jesus began to rule invisibly in Heaven. Or some other Biblical timeline nonsense they continually dream up to dupe their followers into a life of imprisonment.
Anyway, the funny thing is since starting to awaken to the lies around me, funny things have started happening.
I will be in charity shops and just the right ind of book will happen to be there to help me along etc. Silly things like that (probably just co-incidence though eh?)
Funnily I was also thinking about 1914 today, as it was the start of world war 1 and wondered if that had any numerical significance? Then happened to stumble upon this thread.
Strange...

[golden lady]

I have freinds who are JWs and have studied the bible with them. One of the many reasons I didn't "join" them was the belief their relegion is the one and only true relgion. Having said that there may well be a lot of truth in what they say.
Anyhow back to 1914. After receiving the Kingdom of Heaven Jesus threw out Satan and the demon angels from Heaven and cast them down to earth. (rev 12.9) "Woe for the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time." (Rev12.12)
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Well it certainly has got a lot worse since then. The prophesy in the scriptures does seem to fit our times!
Maybe seeing these numbers is some sort of clarification that this is so?

[holylucifer]

2:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their (human) lives unto the death (John 12:25).
12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the "earth" and of the "sea"! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (6,000 years).

Luke 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what kind of spirit ye are of (Rev. 12:7-9; Matt. 8:22).

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,

8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.


rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the holy people.
13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and it had two horns like a lamb, and he (Hitler) spoke as the dragon.
13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the presence of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by the sword, and did live (the Roman Empire - eagle and swastika emblems).
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Deutsch) in their right hand, or in their foreheads (Marx-ism):
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name.

[nambo]

I have freinds who are JWs and have studied the bible with them. One of the many reasons I didn't "join" them was the belief their relegion is the one and only true relgion. Having said that there may well be a lot of truth in what they say.
Anyhow back to 1914. After receiving the Kingdom of Heaven Jesus threw out Satan and the demon angels from Heaven and cast them down to earth. (rev 12.9) "Woe for the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time." (Rev12.12)
Copied from Knowledge thats leads to everlasting Life book.

Well it certainly has got a lot worse since then. The prophesy in the scriptures does seem to fit our times!
Maybe seeing these numbers is some sort of clarification that this is so?

The scripture says the Devil knows he has a short period of time, that short period of time is getting on for 100 years, 100 years is also one tenth of Jesus 1000 year reign, so hes only got 900 years left, on both accounts nothing much appears to be happening.

I think when Satan is really cast down, you are really going to know about it, the tribulations are going to be pretty unpleasant.

Though we think of the first world war as like the worst war ever, as if nothing like that happened before, if you read a few history books, I just read one on the history of Prussia, the whole history of Europe is one long serious of horrific wars, its nothing new.

I belive Jesus prescence is due shortly though, what with the coming New World Order which will be the beast of Revelation 13.
I think the signs of peoples nature in the last days as recorded in 2nd Timothy 3 are looking a lot more like they are coming true than they did even 20 years ago, never mind 100.