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Anders Lindman
17-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Obviously the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are at each other's throats. Or that could be the case. Who is going to win?

bicycle
17-07-2007, 09:59 PM
Obviously the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are at each other's throats. Or that could be the case. Who is going to win?

How do you know it is obviouse:confused:

Anders Lindman
17-07-2007, 10:04 PM
How do you know it is obviouse:confused:

I have listened to some interviews and I came up with this idea. Probably just fiction, but it's fun to speculate. :D

On one side we have the Rothschilds who have global warming as their weapon. On the other side are the Rockefellers who use war on terror as their main weapon. Let's Get Ready to Rumble! :D

graflok
17-07-2007, 10:12 PM
Maybe all 13 families will do themselves in while fighting over the spoils.

That works for me.:)

bicycle
17-07-2007, 10:21 PM
From what I hear the Rothschilds detest the British Royal family and vice versa, while the Rockefellows are subservient and take orders from the Rothschilds.

Anders Lindman
17-07-2007, 10:37 PM
From what I hear the Rothschilds detest the British Royal family and vice versa, while the Rockefellows are subservient and take orders from the Rothschilds.

Benjamin Fulford said in the Rense interview that the Rockefellers was funded by the Rothschilds but had become a powerful independent force, or something like that.

cruise4
18-07-2007, 02:53 AM
Who's above the Rothschilds and Rockefellows?

tickles
18-07-2007, 02:56 AM
Who's above the Rothschilds and Rockefellows?

Good question.

Anders Lindman
18-07-2007, 07:08 AM
Maybe it was not fair of me to blame the Rothschilds and Rockefellers for fighting each other, even if it was a bit of a joke. They may be working together. However, the banking system in general is too opaque it seems, like a playground of their own where they can set up their own rules and operate above the heads of even governments. And in the past at least, it looks as if the bankers have been involved in heavy dirty business.

synergy777
18-07-2007, 01:02 PM
rothschild are very powerful. they own banks, they funded the two world wars, they created israel, balfour declaration, they built the new supreme court in israel. the windsor/saxe coburg gothas are a proxy monarchy. look at the rothschilds power, they use their friend murdoch to print stories about the family. rothschild's are not to be undestimated.

tru3
18-07-2007, 02:55 PM
rothschild are very powerful. they own banks, they funded the two world wars, they created israel, balfour declaration, they built the new supreme court in israel. the windsor/saxe coburg gothas are a proxy monarchy. look at the rothschilds power, they use their friend murdoch to print stories about the family. rothschild's are not to be undestimated.

yes, and it goes farther back than that:

A strategic opportunity presented itself when deep social antagonisms began to threaten America's stability. The ILLUMINATI fanned the sparks knowing that they would reap a golden harvest if they could divide the North and the South ideologically and then prod both sides into a protracted and bloody civil war.

It is not to be doubted, I know with absolute certainty, that the separation of the United States into two federations of equal powers had been decided upon well in advance of the Civil War by the top financial power of Europe. -- OTTO VON BISMARCK, Chancellor, Germany.

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/illuminati/civil_war_and_the_role_of_Illuminati.htm

However much of the Rockefeller wealth may be attributed to old John D.'s
rapacity and ruthlessness, its origins are indubitably based in his initial
financing from the National City Bank of Cleveland, which was identified in
Congressional reports as one of the three Rothschild banks in the United
States and by his later acceptance of the guidance of Jacob Schiff of Kuhn,
Loeb & Company, who had been born in the Rothschild house in Frankfort and
was now the principal Rothschild representative (but unknown as such to the
public) in the United States .

With the seed money from the National City Bank of Cleveland, old John D.
Rockefeller soon laid claim to the title of "the most ruthless American".
It is more than likely that it was this quality which persuaded the
Rothschilds to back him . Rockefeller realized early in the game that the
oil refinery business, which could offer great profits in a short time, also
was at the mercy of uncontrolled competition. His solution was a simple
one-crush all competition . The famous Rockefeller dedication to total
monopoly was simply a business decision . Rockefeller embarked on a
campaign of coercing all competing oil refineries out of business . He
attacked on a number of fronts, which is also a lesson to all would be
entrepreneurs . First, he would send a minion, not known to be working for
Rockefeller, with an offer to buy the competing refinery for a low price,
but offering cash. If the offer was refused, the competitor would then come
under attack from a competing refinery which greatly undercut his price . He
might also suffer a sudden strike at his refinery, which would force him to
shut down . Control of labor through unions has always been a basic
Rockefeller technique . Like the Soviet Union, they seldom have labor
trouble . If these techniques failed, Rockefeller would then be saddened by
a reluctant decision to use violence; beating the rival workers as they went
to and from their jobs, or burning or blowing up the competing refinery .

These techniques convinced the Rothschilds that they had found their man .
They sent their personal representative, Jacob Schiff, to Cleveland to help
Rockefeller plan further expansion . At this time, the Rothschilds
controlled 95% of all railroad mileage in the United States, through the
J.P. Morgan Company and Kuhn Loeb & Company according to official Department
of Commerce figures for the year 1895 . J.P.Morgan mentions in his Who's
Who listing that he controlled 50,000 miles of U.S. railways . Schiff
worked out an elaborate rebate deal for Rockefeller, through a dummy
corporation, South Improvement Company . These rebates ensured that no
other oil company could survive in competition with the Rockefeller firm .
The scheme was later exposed, but by that time Rockefeller had achieved a
virtual monopoly of the oil business in the United States . The daughter of
one of his victims, Ida Tarbell, whose father was ruined by Rockefeller's
criminal operations, wrote the first major expose of the Standard Oil Trust
She was promptly denounced as a "muckraker" by the poseur, Theodore
Roosevelt, who claimed to be a "trust buster". In fact, he ensured the
dominance of the Standard Oil Trust and other giant trusts .

During the next half century, John D. Rockefeller was routinely caricatured
by socialist propagandists as the epitome of the ruthless capitalist . At
the same time, he was the principal financier of the world Communist
movement, through a firm called American International Company Despite the
fact that the House of Rothschild had already achieved world control, the
sound and fury was directed exclusively against its two principal,
representatives, John D. Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan. One of the few
revelations of the actual state of affairs appeared in Truth magazine,
December 16, 1912, which pointed out that "Mr. Schiff is head of the great
private banking house of Kuhn, Loeb &Company, which represents the
Rothschild interests on this side of the Atlantic . He is described as a
financial strategist and has been for years the financial minister of the
great impersonal power known as Standard Oil." Note that this editor did
not even mention the name of Rockefeller .

http://www.apfn.net/rockefeller.htm

synergy777
18-07-2007, 05:37 PM
http://planetquo.com/Illuminati-Design-And-Symbolism-In-The-Israeli-Supreme-Court-Building

look who paid for it, who chose the flag of israel, the rothschilds.

synergy777
18-07-2007, 05:46 PM
Rothschild family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[edit] Zionism
The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. As prominent Jews active in politics as well as business, the Rothschild family has been a target for anti-semitism throughout its history. Many family members were persecuted by the Nazis, and one, Elisabeth de Rothschild, died in Ravensbrück concentration camp; she was a Rothschild only by marriage, having been born a Catholic.

In 1901, with no male heir to take it on, the Frankfurt House closed its doors after more than a century in business. It was not until 1989 that they returned when N M Rothschild & Sons, the British investment arm, plus Bank Rothschild AG, the Swiss branch, set up a representative banking office in Frankfurt


their coat of arms is nearly the same as the uk monarchy's. they also have the full family tree, showing the importance of bloodline.

synergy777
18-07-2007, 05:50 PM
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

they are ashke-nazi jews. there house is bigger than buckingham palace, they are much richer than the windsors.

synergy777
18-07-2007, 06:07 PM
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.html

The Illuminati and the House of Rothschild
2005 08 23

By Johnny Silver Bear | SilverBearCafe.com


Two-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire (Roman Empire) on a Red Shield - Today this is the Russian coat of arms.

The "Illuminati" was a name used by a German sect that existed in the 15th century. They practiced the occult, and professed to possess the 'light' that Lucifer had retained when he became Satan.

In an attempt to document the origins of an secret organization which has evolved into a mastodonic nightmare, successfully creating and controlling a shadow government that supercedes several national governments, and in whose hands now lay the destiny of the world, one must carefully retrace its history. The lengths to which this organization has gone to create the political machinery, and influence public sentiment to the degree necessary to propel its self-perpetuating prophecy, are, quite frankly, mind boggling. Yet the facts provide for the undeniable truth of its existence.

In 1743 a goldsmith named Amschel Moses Bauer opened a coin shop in Frankfurt, Germany. He hung above his door a sign depicting a Roman eagle on a red shield. The shop became known as the Red Shield firm. The German word for 'red shield' is Rothschild.

Amschel Bauer had a son, Meyer Amschel Bauer. At a very early age Mayer showed that he possessed immense intellectual ability, and his father spent much of his time teaching him everything he could about the money lending business and in the basic dynamics of finance. A few years after his father's death in 1755, Mayer went to work in Hannover as a clerk, in a bank, owned by the Oppenheimers. While in the employ of the Oppenheimers, he was introduced to a General von Estorff for whom he ran errands. Meyer's superior ability was quickly recognized and his advancement within the firm was swift. He was awarded a junior partnership. Von Estorff would later provide the yet-to-be formed House of Rothschild an entré into to the palace of Prince William.

His success allowed him the means to return to Frankfurt and to purchase the business his father had established in 1743. The big Red Shield was still displayed over the door. Recognizing the true significance of the Red Shield (his father had adopted it as his emblem from the Red Flag which was the emblem of the revolutionary minded Jews in Eastern Europe), Mayer Amschel Bauer changed his name to Rothschild (red shield). It was at this point that the House of Rothschild came into being.

Through his experience with the Oppenheimers, Meyer Rothschild learned that loaning money to governments and kings was much more profitable than loaning to private individuals. Not only were the loans bigger, but they were secured by the nation's taxes.


Five Sons, Five Arrows, Five Directions.
Meyer Rothschild had five sons, Amschel, Salomon, Nathan, Karl and Jakob. Meyer spent the rest of his life instructing them all in the secret techniques of money creation and manipulation. As they came of age, he sent them to the major capitals of Europe to open branch offices of the family banking business. Amschel, stayed in Frankfurt, Salomon was sent to Vienna. Nathan was sent to London. Karl went to Naples, and Jakob went to Paris.

Although all the sons became astute branch managers, Nathan exhibited a superior affinity for the banking business. When he got to London, he became a merchant banker and began to cement ties between the House of Rothschild and the Bank of England.

The House of Rothschild continued to buy and sell bullion and rare coins. Through their shrewd business transactions they successfully bought out or dismantled most of the competition in Europe. In 1769, Meyer became a court agent for Prince William IX of Hesse-Kassel, who was the grandson of George II of England, a cousin to George III, a nephew of the King of Denmark, and a brother- in-law to the King of Sweden. Before long, the House of Rothschild became the go between for big Frankfurt bankers like the Bethmann Brothers, and Rueppell & Harnier.


Rotschild Coat of Arms - Concordia, Integritas, Industria = Unity, Integrity, Industry.

In 1785, Meyer moved his entire family to a five story dwelling he shared with the Schiff family. In 1865 The Schiffs' not-yet-born grandson Jacob would move to New York and in 1917 become the mastermind behind the funding of the Bolshevik Revolution. This action would successfully instate communism as a major world movement, which was, (and still is), a basic tenet of the Illuminati and their collectivist agenda, (but more Jacob Schiff and the Illuminati agenda later). From this point on the Rothschilds and the Schiffs would play a central role in the rest of European financial history, and subsequently that of the United States and the world.

Meyer Rothschild began to realize that in order to attain the power necessary to influence and control the finances of the various monarchs in Europe, he would have to wrest this influence and power from the church, which would necessitate its destruction. To accomplish this, he enlisted the help of a Catholic priest, Adam Weishaupt, to assemble a secret Satanic order.

Adam Weishaupt was born February 6, 1748 at Ingoldstadt, Bavaria. Weishaupt, born a Jew, was educated by the Jesuits who converted him to Catholicism. He purportedly developed an intense hatred for the Jesuits. Although he became a Catholic priest, his faith had been shaken by the Jesuits and he became an atheist. Weishaupt was an ardent student of French philosopher Voltaire (1694-1778). Voltaire, a revolutionary who held liberal religious views, had written in a letter to King Frederick II, ("the Great"):

"Lastly, when the whole body of the Church should be sufficiently weakened and infidelity strong enough, the final blow (is) to be dealt by the sword of open, relentless persecution. A reign of terror (is) to be spread over the whole earth, and...continue while any Christian should be found obstinate enough to adhere to Christianity."

It is believed that, as a result of Voltaire's writings, Weishaupt formulated his ideas concerning the destruction of the Church. In 1775, when summoned by the House of Rothschild, he immediately defected and, at the behest of Meyer, began to organize the Illuminati. The 1st chapter of the order started in his home town of Ingolstadt.

As the name implies, those individuals who are members of the Illuminati possess the 'Light of Lucifer'. As far as they are concerned, only members of the human race who possess the 'Light of Lucifer' are truly enlightened and capable of governing. Denouncing God, Weishaupt and his followers considered themselves to be the cream of the intelligentsia - the only people with the mental capacity, the knowledge, the insight and understanding necessary to govern the world and bring it peace. Their avowed purpose and goal was the establishment of a "Novus Ordo Seclorum" - a New World Order, or One World Government.

Through the network of the Illuminati membership, Meyer Rothschild's efforts were redoubled and his banking empire became firmly entrenched throughout Europe. His sons, who were made Barons of the Austrian Empire, continued to build on what their father had started and expand his financial influence.

During the American Revolution, the House of Rothschild brokered a deal between the Throne of England and Prince William of Germany. William was to provide 16,800 Hessian soldiers to help England stop the Revolution in America. Rothschild was also made responsible for the transfer of funds that were to pay the German soldiers. The transfer was never made. The soldiers were never paid, which may account for their poor showing. The Americans prevailed. At this point Meyer Rothschild set his sights on America.


LCF Rothschild Group. The Group established by Edmond de Rothschild and presided over today by his son, Benjamin, is one of the most prominent organisations in the global financial sector.


The "Illuminati" was a name used by a German sect that existed in the 15th century. They practiced the occult, and professed to possess the 'light' that Lucifer had retained when he became Satan.

Meanwhile Benjamin Franklin, having become very familiar with the Bank of England and fractional reserve banking, (see goldsmiths above), understood the dangers of a privately owned Central Bank controlling the issue of the Nation's currency and resisted the charter of a central bank until his death in 1791. That was the same year that Alexander Hamilton pushed through legislation that would provide for the charter of The First Bank of the United States. Ironically, the bank was chartered by the Bank of England to finance the war debt of the Revolutionary War. Nathan Rothschild invested heavily that first bank. He immediately set about to control all financial activity, between banks, in America.

There were a couple of problems, though. The U.S. Constitution put control of the nation's currency in the hands of Congress, and made no provisions for Congress to delegate that authority. It even established the basic currency unit, the dollar. The dollar was Constitutionally mandated to be a silver coin based on the Spanish pillar dollar and to contain 375 grains of silver.

This single provision was designed to keep the American money supply out of the hands of the banking industry. The Bank of England made several attempts to usurp control of the U.S. money supply but failed. Still, through their Illuminati agents, they continued to enlist supporters through bribery and kickbacks.

Any proponent of a fractional reserve banking system is an economic predator.

During the next twenty years the country would fall prey to contrived financial havoc as a result of the bankers policies of creating cycles of inflation and tight money. During times of inflation the economy would boom, there would be high employment, and people would borrow money to buy houses and farms. At that point the bankers would raise interest rates and incite a depression which would, obviously, cause unemployment. People who could not pay their mortgages would have their homes and farms repossessed by the bank for a fraction of their true value. This is the essence of the Illuminati ploy, and it would recur, time and time again. In fact, it's still happening today.

By 1810,The House of Rothschild not only had a substantial stake in the Bank of the United States, they were quietly gaining control of the Bank of England. Although foreign owners were not, by law, allowed a say in the day to day operations of the Bank of the United States, there is little doubt that the American share holders and directors were, if not affiliated, complicit in the aims and goals of the Illuminati and their central bankers.

In 1811 the charter for the First Bank of America was not renewed. As a result, the House of Rothschild lost millions. This enraged Nathan Rothschild so much that he, almost single handedly fomented the War of 1812. Using his formidable power and influence, he coerced the British Parliament to attempt to retake the Colonies. The first military attempt failed. The second strategy was to divide and conquer. Any serious historian will find that the Civil War was largely stirred up by Rothschild's illuminati agents in the United States.


Rothschild's coat of arms at the entrance to Rotschild's burial place at the Ramat Hanadiv gardens in Israel.

Meyer Amschel Rothschild died on September 19, 1812. His will spelled out specific guidelines that were to be maintained by his descendants:

1) All important posts were to be held by only family members, and only male members were to be involved on the business end. The oldest son of the oldest son was to be the head of the family, unless otherwise agreed upon by the rest of the family, as was the case in 1812, when Nathan was appointed as the patriarch.

2) The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, so their fortune could be kept in the family, and to maintain the appearance of a united financial empire. For example, his son James (Jacob) Mayer married the daughter of another son, Salomon Mayer. This rule became less important in later generations as they refocused family goals and married into other fortunes.

3) Rothschild ordered that there was never to be "any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate...Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance."

Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who, by 1820, had established a firm grip on the Bank of England stated:

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

The Second Bank of the United States, was also chartered by the Bank of England to carry the American war debt. When its charter expired in 1836, President Andrew Jackson refused to renew it, saying a central bank concentrated too much power in the hands of un elected bankers.

In 1838 Nathan made the following statement:

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."

During the first quarter of the nineteenth century the Rothschilds expanded their financial empire throughout Europe. They crisscrossed the continent with railroads, which allowed the transport of coal and steel from their newly purchases coal mines and iron works. Through a loan to the government of England, they held the first lien on the Suez Canal. They financed the Romanov dynasty in tsarist Russia, provided the funding that allowed Cecil Rhodes the opportunity to plunder and sack South Africa as well as the funding that allowed the government of France to plunder and sack North Africa.

As I have stated many times before, "the Dark Side" has been on both sides of every war that has been fought in modern times. American and British Intelligence have documented evidence that the House of Rothschild has financed both sides of every war, since the American Revolution. Financier Haym Salomon, an Illuminati agent, supported the patriots during the American Revolution, then later made loans to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe. As explained earlier, during the Napoleonic Wars, one branch of the family funded Napoleon, while another financed Great Britain, Germany, and other nations.

One of the most prominent Illuminati Orders in the U.S. was the secret "Order of Skull & Bones". Illuminati agents, William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft, founded Chapter 322, at Yale University in 1833. Then, in 1856 the Order was incorporated as the Russell Trust. William Russell became a member of the Connecticut State Legislature in 1846 and a General in Connecticut National Guard in 1862. Alphonso Taft became Secretary of War in the Grant Administration in 1876, U.S. Attorney General in 1876 and U.S. Ambassador to Russia in 1884. Alphonso Taft's son later became Chief Justice and United States President.

In the years preceding the Civil War, a number of "Skull and Bones" Patriarchs were to become leaders in the Secessionist movements of various Southern States. It has been suggested that these pressures exacerbated an already tenuous situation, and set the stage for the fomentation of the Civil War. The Rothschild Banks provided financing for both the North and the South during the war. After the civil war, the more clever method was used to take over the United States. The Rothschilds financed August Belmont, Khun Loeb and the Morgan Banks. Then they financed the Harrimans (Railroads), Carnegie (Steel) and other industrial Titans. Agents like Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff, Bernard Baruch were then sent to the United States to effect the next phase of the takeover.

By the end of the 19th. Century, the Rothschilds had controlling influence in England, U.S., France, Germany, Austria and Italy. Only Russia was left outside the financial sphere of world domination. England, through the Bank of England, ruled most of the world. Jacob Schiff, president of Khun Loeb Bank in New York was appointed by B'nai B'rith (A secret Jewish Masonic Order meaning "Bothers of the Convenent") to be the Revolutionary Leader of the Revolution in Russia. A cartel, made up of the Carnegies, Morgans , Rockefellers, and Chases would contribute to the manifestation of communism. On January 13, 1917, Leon Trotsky arrived in the United States and received a U.S. Passport. He was frequently seen entering the palatial residence of Jacob Schiff.

Jacob Schiff, and his supporters, financed the training of Trotsky's Rebel Band, comprised mainly of Jews from New York's East Side, on Rockefeller's Standard oil Company property in New Jersey. When sufficiently trained in the techniques of guerrilla warfare and terror, Trotsky's rebel band departed with twenty million dollars worth of gold, also provided by Jacob Schiff, on the ship S.S. Kristianiafjord bound for Russia to wage the Bolshevik revolution.

After the Bolshevik Revolution and the wholesale murder of the entire Russian royal family, Standard Oil of New Jersey brought 50% of the huge Caucasus oil field even though the property had theoretically been nationalized. In 1927, Standard Oil of New York built a refinery in Russia. Then Standard Oil concluded a deal to market Soviet Oil in Europe and floated a loan of $75 million to the Bolsheviks. Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg at the Kuhn Loeb Bank started a campaign for a central bank in the United States. They then helped the Rothschild's to manipulate the financial Panic of 1907.

Then, the panic of 1907 was used as an argument for having a central bank to prevent such occurrences. Paul Warburg told the Banking and Currency Committee: 'Let us have a national clearing house'."

The Federal Reserve Act was the brainchild of Baron Alfred Rothschild of London. The final version of the Act was decided on at a secret meeting at Jekyll Island Georgia, owned by J.P. Morgan. Present at the meeting were; A. Piatt Andrew, Assistant secretary of the Treasury, Senator Nelson Aldrich, Frank Vanderlip, President of Kuhn Loeb and Co., Henry Davidson, Senior Partner of J.P. Morgan Bank, Charles Norton, President of Morgan's First National of New York, Paul Warburg, Partner in Khun Loeb and Co. and Benjamin Strong, President of Morgan's Bankers Trust Co.

Jekyll Island, Georgia, USA
A Talk by G. Edward Griffin Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, brought about the decimation of the U.S. Constitution and was the determining act of the international financiers in consolidating financial power in the United States. Pierre Jay, Initiated into the "Order of Skull and Bones" in 1892, became the first Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. A dozen members of the Federal Reserve can be linked to the same "Order."

The Rothschilds operate out of an area in the heart of London, England, the financial district, which is known as 'The City', or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their main offices here, along with branch offices for 385 foreign banks, including 70 from the United States. It is here that you will find the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts), Fleet Street (home of publishing and newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange (to trade coffee, rubber, sugar and wool), and the London Metal Exchange. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.

What You Didn't Know About Taxes & The 'Crown'

Positioned on the north bank of the Thames River, covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the "wealthiest square mile on earth"), it has enjoyed special rights and privileges that enabled them to achieve a certain level of independence since 1191. In 1215, its citizens received a Charter from King John, granting them the right to annually elect a mayor (known as the Lord Mayor), a tradition that continues today.

Des Griffin, in his book Descent into Slavery, described 'The City' as a sovereign state (much like the Vatican), and that since the establishment of the privately owned Bank of England in 1694, this financial center has actually become the last word in England's national affairs. He contends that the country is run by powers in 'the City' and that the throne, the prime minister, and parliament are simply fronts for the real power. E. C. Knuth, in his book Empire of the City, suggests that when the queen enters 'The City,' she is subservient to the Lord Mayor (under him, is a committee of 12-14 men, known as 'The Crown'), because this privately-owned corporation is not subject to the Queen, or the Parliament. The Rothschilds have traditionally chosen the Lord mayor since 1820.

The last national election in the United States provided its citizenry with a choice between two known members of a the same Satanic cult. And even then, the outcome of this election has come under extreme scrutiny. For further exploration into the 2004 Presidential election please follow this link.

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
- Joseph Stalin

References:

Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe by John Robinson
(http://www.bilderberg.org/lucis.htm)

The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, and The Illuminati by Conrad Geiger
(http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment)

A Bavarian Illuminati Primer by Trevor W. McKeown
(http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/Writings/Illuminati.html)

The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations by Myron C. Fagan
(http://100777.com/node/view/13)

Merchants of Debt by Hans Schicht
(http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/schichtndx.html)

The Eagle and the Serpent by Dr. Wesley A. Swift
(http://www.childrenofyahweh.com/Swift/the_eagle.htm)

Article from: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/rothschild.html


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tickles
19-07-2007, 12:52 AM
Thats some good points youve raised synergy777.

655321
22-05-2012, 09:32 AM
Rockefeller vs Rothschild - YouTube

inversedivinity
22-05-2012, 09:35 AM
I don't give a fuck what anyone says, Rockefeller's are way bigger than Rothschild. It's a simple case of the former being based in America a greater nature with more resources in comparison to anglo european.

655321
22-05-2012, 09:48 AM
Rockefellers are the Romulus and Rothschilds are the Remus of the NWO.

valmar
22-05-2012, 12:03 PM
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.html

The Illuminati and the House of Rothschild
2005 08 23

By Johnny Silver Bear | SilverBearCafe.com


Two-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire (Roman Empire) on a Red Shield - Today this is the Russian coat of arms.

The "Illuminati" was a name used by a German sect that existed in the 15th century. They practiced the occult, and professed to possess the 'light' that Lucifer had retained when he became Satan.

In an attempt to document the origins of an secret organization which has evolved into a mastodonic nightmare, successfully creating and controlling a shadow government that supercedes several national governments, and in whose hands now lay the destiny of the world, one must carefully retrace its history. The lengths to which this organization has gone to create the political machinery, and influence public sentiment to the degree necessary to propel its self-perpetuating prophecy, are, quite frankly, mind boggling. Yet the facts provide for the undeniable truth of its existence.

In 1743 a goldsmith named Amschel Moses Bauer opened a coin shop in Frankfurt, Germany. He hung above his door a sign depicting a Roman eagle on a red shield. The shop became known as the Red Shield firm. The German word for 'red shield' is Rothschild.

Amschel Bauer had a son, Meyer Amschel Bauer. At a very early age Mayer showed that he possessed immense intellectual ability, and his father spent much of his time teaching him everything he could about the money lending business and in the basic dynamics of finance. A few years after his father's death in 1755, Mayer went to work in Hannover as a clerk, in a bank, owned by the Oppenheimers. While in the employ of the Oppenheimers, he was introduced to a General von Estorff for whom he ran errands. Meyer's superior ability was quickly recognized and his advancement within the firm was swift. He was awarded a junior partnership. Von Estorff would later provide the yet-to-be formed House of Rothschild an entré into to the palace of Prince William.

His success allowed him the means to return to Frankfurt and to purchase the business his father had established in 1743. The big Red Shield was still displayed over the door. Recognizing the true significance of the Red Shield (his father had adopted it as his emblem from the Red Flag which was the emblem of the revolutionary minded Jews in Eastern Europe), Mayer Amschel Bauer changed his name to Rothschild (red shield). It was at this point that the House of Rothschild came into being.

Through his experience with the Oppenheimers, Meyer Rothschild learned that loaning money to governments and kings was much more profitable than loaning to private individuals. Not only were the loans bigger, but they were secured by the nation's taxes.


Five Sons, Five Arrows, Five Directions.
Meyer Rothschild had five sons, Amschel, Salomon, Nathan, Karl and Jakob. Meyer spent the rest of his life instructing them all in the secret techniques of money creation and manipulation. As they came of age, he sent them to the major capitals of Europe to open branch offices of the family banking business. Amschel, stayed in Frankfurt, Salomon was sent to Vienna. Nathan was sent to London. Karl went to Naples, and Jakob went to Paris.

Although all the sons became astute branch managers, Nathan exhibited a superior affinity for the banking business. When he got to London, he became a merchant banker and began to cement ties between the House of Rothschild and the Bank of England.

The House of Rothschild continued to buy and sell bullion and rare coins. Through their shrewd business transactions they successfully bought out or dismantled most of the competition in Europe. In 1769, Meyer became a court agent for Prince William IX of Hesse-Kassel, who was the grandson of George II of England, a cousin to George III, a nephew of the King of Denmark, and a brother- in-law to the King of Sweden. Before long, the House of Rothschild became the go between for big Frankfurt bankers like the Bethmann Brothers, and Rueppell & Harnier.


Rotschild Coat of Arms - Concordia, Integritas, Industria = Unity, Integrity, Industry.

In 1785, Meyer moved his entire family to a five story dwelling he shared with the Schiff family. In 1865 The Schiffs' not-yet-born grandson Jacob would move to New York and in 1917 become the mastermind behind the funding of the Bolshevik Revolution. This action would successfully instate communism as a major world movement, which was, (and still is), a basic tenet of the Illuminati and their collectivist agenda, (but more Jacob Schiff and the Illuminati agenda later). From this point on the Rothschilds and the Schiffs would play a central role in the rest of European financial history, and subsequently that of the United States and the world.

Meyer Rothschild began to realize that in order to attain the power necessary to influence and control the finances of the various monarchs in Europe, he would have to wrest this influence and power from the church, which would necessitate its destruction. To accomplish this, he enlisted the help of a Catholic priest, Adam Weishaupt, to assemble a secret Satanic order.

Adam Weishaupt was born February 6, 1748 at Ingoldstadt, Bavaria. Weishaupt, born a Jew, was educated by the Jesuits who converted him to Catholicism. He purportedly developed an intense hatred for the Jesuits. Although he became a Catholic priest, his faith had been shaken by the Jesuits and he became an atheist. Weishaupt was an ardent student of French philosopher Voltaire (1694-1778). Voltaire, a revolutionary who held liberal religious views, had written in a letter to King Frederick II, ("the Great"):

"Lastly, when the whole body of the Church should be sufficiently weakened and infidelity strong enough, the final blow (is) to be dealt by the sword of open, relentless persecution. A reign of terror (is) to be spread over the whole earth, and...continue while any Christian should be found obstinate enough to adhere to Christianity."

It is believed that, as a result of Voltaire's writings, Weishaupt formulated his ideas concerning the destruction of the Church. In 1775, when summoned by the House of Rothschild, he immediately defected and, at the behest of Meyer, began to organize the Illuminati. The 1st chapter of the order started in his home town of Ingolstadt.

As the name implies, those individuals who are members of the Illuminati possess the 'Light of Lucifer'. As far as they are concerned, only members of the human race who possess the 'Light of Lucifer' are truly enlightened and capable of governing. Denouncing God, Weishaupt and his followers considered themselves to be the cream of the intelligentsia - the only people with the mental capacity, the knowledge, the insight and understanding necessary to govern the world and bring it peace. Their avowed purpose and goal was the establishment of a "Novus Ordo Seclorum" - a New World Order, or One World Government.

Through the network of the Illuminati membership, Meyer Rothschild's efforts were redoubled and his banking empire became firmly entrenched throughout Europe. His sons, who were made Barons of the Austrian Empire, continued to build on what their father had started and expand his financial influence.

During the American Revolution, the House of Rothschild brokered a deal between the Throne of England and Prince William of Germany. William was to provide 16,800 Hessian soldiers to help England stop the Revolution in America. Rothschild was also made responsible for the transfer of funds that were to pay the German soldiers. The transfer was never made. The soldiers were never paid, which may account for their poor showing. The Americans prevailed. At this point Meyer Rothschild set his sights on America.


LCF Rothschild Group. The Group established by Edmond de Rothschild and presided over today by his son, Benjamin, is one of the most prominent organisations in the global financial sector.


The "Illuminati" was a name used by a German sect that existed in the 15th century. They practiced the occult, and professed to possess the 'light' that Lucifer had retained when he became Satan.

Meanwhile Benjamin Franklin, having become very familiar with the Bank of England and fractional reserve banking, (see goldsmiths above), understood the dangers of a privately owned Central Bank controlling the issue of the Nation's currency and resisted the charter of a central bank until his death in 1791. That was the same year that Alexander Hamilton pushed through legislation that would provide for the charter of The First Bank of the United States. Ironically, the bank was chartered by the Bank of England to finance the war debt of the Revolutionary War. Nathan Rothschild invested heavily that first bank. He immediately set about to control all financial activity, between banks, in America.

There were a couple of problems, though. The U.S. Constitution put control of the nation's currency in the hands of Congress, and made no provisions for Congress to delegate that authority. It even established the basic currency unit, the dollar. The dollar was Constitutionally mandated to be a silver coin based on the Spanish pillar dollar and to contain 375 grains of silver.

This single provision was designed to keep the American money supply out of the hands of the banking industry. The Bank of England made several attempts to usurp control of the U.S. money supply but failed. Still, through their Illuminati agents, they continued to enlist supporters through bribery and kickbacks.

Any proponent of a fractional reserve banking system is an economic predator.

During the next twenty years the country would fall prey to contrived financial havoc as a result of the bankers policies of creating cycles of inflation and tight money. During times of inflation the economy would boom, there would be high employment, and people would borrow money to buy houses and farms. At that point the bankers would raise interest rates and incite a depression which would, obviously, cause unemployment. People who could not pay their mortgages would have their homes and farms repossessed by the bank for a fraction of their true value. This is the essence of the Illuminati ploy, and it would recur, time and time again. In fact, it's still happening today.

By 1810,The House of Rothschild not only had a substantial stake in the Bank of the United States, they were quietly gaining control of the Bank of England. Although foreign owners were not, by law, allowed a say in the day to day operations of the Bank of the United States, there is little doubt that the American share holders and directors were, if not affiliated, complicit in the aims and goals of the Illuminati and their central bankers.

In 1811 the charter for the First Bank of America was not renewed. As a result, the House of Rothschild lost millions. This enraged Nathan Rothschild so much that he, almost single handedly fomented the War of 1812. Using his formidable power and influence, he coerced the British Parliament to attempt to retake the Colonies. The first military attempt failed. The second strategy was to divide and conquer. Any serious historian will find that the Civil War was largely stirred up by Rothschild's illuminati agents in the United States.


Rothschild's coat of arms at the entrance to Rotschild's burial place at the Ramat Hanadiv gardens in Israel.

Meyer Amschel Rothschild died on September 19, 1812. His will spelled out specific guidelines that were to be maintained by his descendants:

1) All important posts were to be held by only family members, and only male members were to be involved on the business end. The oldest son of the oldest son was to be the head of the family, unless otherwise agreed upon by the rest of the family, as was the case in 1812, when Nathan was appointed as the patriarch.

2) The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, so their fortune could be kept in the family, and to maintain the appearance of a united financial empire. For example, his son James (Jacob) Mayer married the daughter of another son, Salomon Mayer. This rule became less important in later generations as they refocused family goals and married into other fortunes.

3) Rothschild ordered that there was never to be "any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate...Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance."

Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who, by 1820, had established a firm grip on the Bank of England stated:

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

The Second Bank of the United States, was also chartered by the Bank of England to carry the American war debt. When its charter expired in 1836, President Andrew Jackson refused to renew it, saying a central bank concentrated too much power in the hands of un elected bankers.

In 1838 Nathan made the following statement:

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."

During the first quarter of the nineteenth century the Rothschilds expanded their financial empire throughout Europe. They crisscrossed the continent with railroads, which allowed the transport of coal and steel from their newly purchases coal mines and iron works. Through a loan to the government of England, they held the first lien on the Suez Canal. They financed the Romanov dynasty in tsarist Russia, provided the funding that allowed Cecil Rhodes the opportunity to plunder and sack South Africa as well as the funding that allowed the government of France to plunder and sack North Africa.

As I have stated many times before, "the Dark Side" has been on both sides of every war that has been fought in modern times. American and British Intelligence have documented evidence that the House of Rothschild has financed both sides of every war, since the American Revolution. Financier Haym Salomon, an Illuminati agent, supported the patriots during the American Revolution, then later made loans to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe. As explained earlier, during the Napoleonic Wars, one branch of the family funded Napoleon, while another financed Great Britain, Germany, and other nations.

One of the most prominent Illuminati Orders in the U.S. was the secret "Order of Skull & Bones". Illuminati agents, William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft, founded Chapter 322, at Yale University in 1833. Then, in 1856 the Order was incorporated as the Russell Trust. William Russell became a member of the Connecticut State Legislature in 1846 and a General in Connecticut National Guard in 1862. Alphonso Taft became Secretary of War in the Grant Administration in 1876, U.S. Attorney General in 1876 and U.S. Ambassador to Russia in 1884. Alphonso Taft's son later became Chief Justice and United States President.

In the years preceding the Civil War, a number of "Skull and Bones" Patriarchs were to become leaders in the Secessionist movements of various Southern States. It has been suggested that these pressures exacerbated an already tenuous situation, and set the stage for the fomentation of the Civil War. The Rothschild Banks provided financing for both the North and the South during the war. After the civil war, the more clever method was used to take over the United States. The Rothschilds financed August Belmont, Khun Loeb and the Morgan Banks. Then they financed the Harrimans (Railroads), Carnegie (Steel) and other industrial Titans. Agents like Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff, Bernard Baruch were then sent to the United States to effect the next phase of the takeover.

By the end of the 19th. Century, the Rothschilds had controlling influence in England, U.S., France, Germany, Austria and Italy. Only Russia was left outside the financial sphere of world domination. England, through the Bank of England, ruled most of the world. Jacob Schiff, president of Khun Loeb Bank in New York was appointed by B'nai B'rith (A secret Jewish Masonic Order meaning "Bothers of the Convenent") to be the Revolutionary Leader of the Revolution in Russia. A cartel, made up of the Carnegies, Morgans , Rockefellers, and Chases would contribute to the manifestation of communism. On January 13, 1917, Leon Trotsky arrived in the United States and received a U.S. Passport. He was frequently seen entering the palatial residence of Jacob Schiff.

Jacob Schiff, and his supporters, financed the training of Trotsky's Rebel Band, comprised mainly of Jews from New York's East Side, on Rockefeller's Standard oil Company property in New Jersey. When sufficiently trained in the techniques of guerrilla warfare and terror, Trotsky's rebel band departed with twenty million dollars worth of gold, also provided by Jacob Schiff, on the ship S.S. Kristianiafjord bound for Russia to wage the Bolshevik revolution.

After the Bolshevik Revolution and the wholesale murder of the entire Russian royal family, Standard Oil of New Jersey brought 50% of the huge Caucasus oil field even though the property had theoretically been nationalized. In 1927, Standard Oil of New York built a refinery in Russia. Then Standard Oil concluded a deal to market Soviet Oil in Europe and floated a loan of $75 million to the Bolsheviks. Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg at the Kuhn Loeb Bank started a campaign for a central bank in the United States. They then helped the Rothschild's to manipulate the financial Panic of 1907.

Then, the panic of 1907 was used as an argument for having a central bank to prevent such occurrences. Paul Warburg told the Banking and Currency Committee: 'Let us have a national clearing house'."

The Federal Reserve Act was the brainchild of Baron Alfred Rothschild of London. The final version of the Act was decided on at a secret meeting at Jekyll Island Georgia, owned by J.P. Morgan. Present at the meeting were; A. Piatt Andrew, Assistant secretary of the Treasury, Senator Nelson Aldrich, Frank Vanderlip, President of Kuhn Loeb and Co., Henry Davidson, Senior Partner of J.P. Morgan Bank, Charles Norton, President of Morgan's First National of New York, Paul Warburg, Partner in Khun Loeb and Co. and Benjamin Strong, President of Morgan's Bankers Trust Co.

Jekyll Island, Georgia, USA
A Talk by G. Edward Griffin Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, brought about the decimation of the U.S. Constitution and was the determining act of the international financiers in consolidating financial power in the United States. Pierre Jay, Initiated into the "Order of Skull and Bones" in 1892, became the first Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. A dozen members of the Federal Reserve can be linked to the same "Order."

The Rothschilds operate out of an area in the heart of London, England, the financial district, which is known as 'The City', or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their main offices here, along with branch offices for 385 foreign banks, including 70 from the United States. It is here that you will find the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts), Fleet Street (home of publishing and newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange (to trade coffee, rubber, sugar and wool), and the London Metal Exchange. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.

What You Didn't Know About Taxes & The 'Crown'

Positioned on the north bank of the Thames River, covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the "wealthiest square mile on earth"), it has enjoyed special rights and privileges that enabled them to achieve a certain level of independence since 1191. In 1215, its citizens received a Charter from King John, granting them the right to annually elect a mayor (known as the Lord Mayor), a tradition that continues today.

Des Griffin, in his book Descent into Slavery, described 'The City' as a sovereign state (much like the Vatican), and that since the establishment of the privately owned Bank of England in 1694, this financial center has actually become the last word in England's national affairs. He contends that the country is run by powers in 'the City' and that the throne, the prime minister, and parliament are simply fronts for the real power. E. C. Knuth, in his book Empire of the City, suggests that when the queen enters 'The City,' she is subservient to the Lord Mayor (under him, is a committee of 12-14 men, known as 'The Crown'), because this privately-owned corporation is not subject to the Queen, or the Parliament. The Rothschilds have traditionally chosen the Lord mayor since 1820.

The last national election in the United States provided its citizenry with a choice between two known members of a the same Satanic cult. And even then, the outcome of this election has come under extreme scrutiny. For further exploration into the 2004 Presidential election please follow this link.

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
- Joseph Stalin

References:

Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe by John Robinson
(http://www.bilderberg.org/lucis.htm)

The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, and The Illuminati by Conrad Geiger
(http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment)

A Bavarian Illuminati Primer by Trevor W. McKeown
(http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/Writings/Illuminati.html)

The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations by Myron C. Fagan
(http://100777.com/node/view/13)

Merchants of Debt by Hans Schicht
(http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/schichtndx.html)

The Eagle and the Serpent by Dr. Wesley A. Swift
(http://www.childrenofyahweh.com/Swift/the_eagle.htm)

Article from: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/rothschild.html


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The Bankers Manifesto of 1892

The Rothschild Dynasty

Financial Wizzards & Wealthy Cults, The Rothschild Bloodline

The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin

Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier

The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

Rothschild's Articles - Cliff Shack

French Rothschild Branch Behind the Planned Genocide Of Armenians

Rothschild-British Intel Alliance Behind Chechen Terror?

The Rothschilds and their "Nazi" Pope

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What You Didn't Know About Taxes & The 'Crown'

The Illuminati-Staged US Presidential Election

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baron von zach
22-05-2012, 12:36 PM
I don't give a fuck what anyone says, Rockefeller's are way bigger than Rothschild. It's a simple case of the former being based in America a greater nature with more resources in comparison to anglo european.

Which facts make you come to this conclusion, please?

inversedivinity
22-05-2012, 12:41 PM
I meant nation. America has more wealth and untapped resources which Rockefeller's tapped severely. Then you got the american military which pretty much in my opinion kow tows to corporations. Then of course Rockefeller's probably are in on the military industrial complex as well.

655321
01-06-2012, 03:57 AM
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Speeches/Slides-nwo/tim99-12.jpg

http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-11-4.html

"This satanic plot (New World Order/One World Government) was launched back in the 1760s when it first came into existence under the name 'Illuminati' ('Enlightened'). This Illuminati was organized by one Adam Weishaupt, born a Jew, who converted to Catholicism and became a Catholic priest. At the behest of the then newly organized House of Rothschild, Weishaupt defected (Catholicism) and organized the Illuminati.

Naturally, the Rothschilds financed that operation and every war since then, beginning with the French Revolution. The headquarters of the great conspiracy in the late 1700's was in Frankfurt, Germany where the House of Rothschild had been established by Mayar (or Mayer) Amschel who adopted the Rothschild name and linked together other international financiers who had literally sold their souls to the devil.

After the Bavarian government's exposure in 1786 (of the Illuminati's intent to start the French Revolution), the conspirators moved their headquarters to Switzerland, then to London."

As is the case with unscrupulous bankers and industrialists whose only motive is Greed, Rothschilds have reportedly sometimes financed both sides of a war. Such as in the case of WW II and Hitler's Third Reich, for example, one of their former clients. Nor were they alone among the Jewish bankers in doing so, according to Fagan.

It was certainly a winning strategy for war profiteers with no morals. They win no matter who loses the war. But only in a material sense. Just as the "death merchants" and their financiers of the wars of the 1990s did. Meanwhile, back to Fagan…

"Since World War II (after Jacob Schiff, the Rothschild's (errand) boy in America, who organized and funded the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia), the headquarters of the American branch has been in the Harold Pratt Building in New York City, and the Rockefellers, originally proteges of Schiff, have taken over the manipulation of finances in America for the Illuminati…

They have been promoting the Illuminati operating under various names and guises. I say under various names and guises because after the Illuminati was exposed and became notorious (and thus ineffective as a secret society), Weishaupt and his (subsequent) co-conspirators began to operate under various other names.

In the United States, immediately after World War I, they set up what they called the 'Council on Foreign Relations,' commonly referred to as the CFR. This CFR is actually the Illuminati in the United States and its hierarchy."

inversedivinity
01-06-2012, 04:28 AM
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Speeches/Slides-nwo/tim99-12.jpg

http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-11-4.html

"This satanic plot (New World Order/One World Government) was launched back in the 1760s when it first came into existence under the name 'Illuminati' ('Enlightened'). This Illuminati was organized by one Adam Weishaupt, born a Jew, who converted to Catholicism and became a Catholic priest. At the behest of the then newly organized House of Rothschild, Weishaupt defected (Catholicism) and organized the Illuminati.

Naturally, the Rothschilds financed that operation and every war since then, beginning with the French Revolution. The headquarters of the great conspiracy in the late 1700's was in Frankfurt, Germany where the House of Rothschild had been established by Mayar (or Mayer) Amschel who adopted the Rothschild name and linked together other international financiers who had literally sold their souls to the devil.

After the Bavarian government's exposure in 1786 (of the Illuminati's intent to start the French Revolution), the conspirators moved their headquarters to Switzerland, then to London."

As is the case with unscrupulous bankers and industrialists whose only motive is Greed, Rothschilds have reportedly sometimes financed both sides of a war. Such as in the case of WW II and Hitler's Third Reich, for example, one of their former clients. Nor were they alone among the Jewish bankers in doing so, according to Fagan.

It was certainly a winning strategy for war profiteers with no morals. They win no matter who loses the war. But only in a material sense. Just as the "death merchants" and their financiers of the wars of the 1990s did. Meanwhile, back to Fagan…

"Since World War II (after Jacob Schiff, the Rothschild's (errand) boy in America, who organized and funded the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia), the headquarters of the American branch has been in the Harold Pratt Building in New York City, and the Rockefellers, originally proteges of Schiff, have taken over the manipulation of finances in America for the Illuminati…

They have been promoting the Illuminati operating under various names and guises. I say under various names and guises because after the Illuminati was exposed and became notorious (and thus ineffective as a secret society), Weishaupt and his (subsequent) co-conspirators began to operate under various other names.

In the United States, immediately after World War I, they set up what they called the 'Council on Foreign Relations,' commonly referred to as the CFR. This CFR is actually the Illuminati in the United States and its hierarchy."

It's all bull. You would sell weapons to both sides maybe but why would you fund both sides? Yes to get a strangle hold on the nations resources after the war blah blah.

But gold is branded. Your talking about a period in time with no technology as in the means to set up fronts and electronically transfer money.

It would involve people and even then gems and other valuables are also traceable. People don't keep their mouths shut. How would the two sides not find out they where being financed by such entities.

Hence this shit would be common historical knowledge and not the sole preserve of conspiracy. You really need to reason things out.

Shady going on's aren't the sole preserve of the Jews, Let me tell you a story about Britain and India. Indians had superior embroidery skills, the Brits bought it, and the materials required to make it. Then they reversed engineered it. Gave themselves a pat on the back and then sold it back to the Indians.

blackyblue
01-06-2012, 05:16 AM
Obviously the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are at each other's throats. Or that could be the case. Who is going to win?

Rocky wins, remember

655321
01-06-2012, 05:25 AM
Rockefellers are supposed to be Rothschilds errand boys. There's no way Rocky will win.

655321
01-06-2012, 05:34 AM
Deal ties Rockefeller, Rothschild dynasties
By Emily Jane Fox @CNNMoney May 30, 2012: 1:49 PM ET

http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/30/news/companies/rockefeller-rothschild/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Two of the most storied families in the business world -- the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers -- are coming together in an investment partnership.

The Rothschilds' London-listed RIT Capital Partners said Wednesday that it will acquire a 37% stake in Rockefeller's wealth advisory and asset management group from Société Générale Private Banking for an undisclosed sum.

The deal gives the Rothschild trust, whose net assets total £1.9 billion, a toehold in the United States.

RIT said the partnership stems from a personal relationship between David Rockefeller, 96, and Jacob Rothschild, 76, that spans five decades.

But the thread that sews these dynasties together dates back much further. In the 1890s, after fierce competition between them, the Rothschilds and John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil attempted to form a global oil marketing alliance that was eventually thwarted by Russia's government, according to Penn State University's College of Earth and Mineral Studies.

Since John D. Rockefeller, several family members have risen to prominence in finance and politics. They include Nelson Rockefeller, who was governor of New York and vice president of the United States, and John D. Rockefeller IV, currently the senior U.S. senator from West Virginia.

The Rothschild dynasty was established in Frankfurt by Mayer Amschel Rothschild in the late 18th century. The family's wealth, once estimated as one of the largest private fortunes in the world, allowed it to help finance Britain's war against Napoleon and a loan for the British government to purchase the Suez Canal. (What business leaders can learn from the Renaissance)

"The connection between our two families remains very strong," David Rockefeller said in a statement. "I am delighted to welcome Jacob and RIT as shareholders and partners in the ongoing development of our investment management and wealth advisory businesses."

The deal is expected to close by the end of September. To top of page

gan ainm
01-06-2012, 09:26 AM
Did'nt you know this is the time of year all of the groups get together to chose their wives.

Obviously the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are at each other's throats. Or that could be the case. Who is going to win?

farros
01-06-2012, 09:29 AM
Who's above the Rothschilds and Rockefellows?

38th level Archdemon Lord Metatron.

gan ainm
01-06-2012, 09:31 AM
Give you a clue, she owns about a sixth of the planets surface thus all the riches that lie beneath it, her men at arms and ladies in waiting run the whole show in her name.

Who's above the Rothschilds and Rockefellows?

gan ainm
01-06-2012, 09:53 AM
He is wrong, If you look at who has the best raw materials in the house and is keeping them to themselves whilst at the same time stealing other dynasties wealth you will find the fat controller lurking, when the others riches and stores have been used up, out comes the same dynasties to rule again but this time in the open with the remaining rations to eat.

The land owners with hidden riches beneath are the rules and takers.



Which facts make you come to this conclusion, please?

infinityandlove
01-06-2012, 10:05 AM
Obviously the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are at each other's throats. Or that could be the case. Who is going to win?

There is known much infighting between those bunches. That type of thing never ends well.