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hatshepsut
25-04-2009, 09:06 PM
The Illuminati are actually a group of peoples going back to the Tartars, who started breeding horses, and expanded to breeding people. They selected locations with natural harbours and peninsulars - and gold. They grew fruit orchards, and sheep and cattle for milk and meat. They had ultimate control of all resources, and still do. I have an enormous amount of research on this, if anyone is interested. It affects every civilization in every country in the world, at all points in history, with the Archeans at the bottom of it. It also implicates both the Spanish and English languages to an astounding extent.
The Tarim mummies were part of it.
Let me know if there is any interest, and I will post some more.
stewart edwards
25-04-2009, 10:02 PM
Is arabic connected as well?
lightgiver
25-04-2009, 11:09 PM
The Illuminati are actually a group of peoples going back to the Tartars, who started breeding horses, and expanded to breeding people. They selected locations with natural harbours and peninsulars - and gold. They grew fruit orchards, and sheep and cattle for milk and meat. They had ultimate control of all resources, and still do. I have an enormous amount of research on this, if anyone is interested. It affects every civilization in every country in the world, at all points in history, with the Archeans at the bottom of it. It also implicates both the Spanish and English languages to an astounding extent.
The Tarim mummies were part of it.
Let me know if there is any interest, and I will post some more.
Everything is of interest in the world of conspiracy;)
m m m m ma ma mama more please.:D
boots
26-04-2009, 09:27 AM
The Illuminati are actually a group of peoples going back to the Tartars, who started breeding horses, and expanded to breeding people. They selected locations with natural harbours and peninsulars - and gold. They grew fruit orchards, and sheep and cattle for milk and meat. They had ultimate control of all resources, and still do. I have an enormous amount of research on this, if anyone is interested. It affects every civilization in every country in the world, at all points in history, with the Archeans at the bottom of it. It also implicates both the Spanish and English languages to an astounding extent.
The Tarim mummies were part of it.
Let me know if there is any interest, and I will post some more.
Yes I would like to read more on this.
Do they connect back to Babylonians?
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bowtiedaddy
26-04-2009, 11:54 AM
The Illuminati are actually a group of peoples going back to the Tartars, who started breeding horses, and expanded to breeding people. They selected locations with natural harbours and peninsulars - and gold. They grew fruit orchards, and sheep and cattle for milk and meat. They had ultimate control of all resources, and still do. I have an enormous amount of research on this, if anyone is interested. It affects every civilization in every country in the world, at all points in history, with the Archeans at the bottom of it. It also implicates both the Spanish and English languages to an astounding extent.
The Tarim mummies were part of it.
Let me know if there is any interest, and I will post some more.
I don't completely disagree with you but one thing hit my BS detector. They own all resources?
Okay....
So:
For one. If I attain my own resources, how can that happen if they do in fact control all resources.
also... why resort to false flags, media psy ops, or even military might if they actually controlled ALL of the resources? They own some parts of it, but mostly just the big brand stuff.. I can buy meat from a local butcher, buy vegetables from a local farmer, make my own wine, or even excevate my own gold if I wanted to... No doubt, they WANT to own all resources and try to get as close to that as possible, but I wouldn't say they currently have THAT MUCH control over ALL resources.
hatshepsut
26-04-2009, 09:34 PM
Yes I would like to read more on this.
Do they connect back to Babylonians?
.Yes absolutely, and the Scythian, Sogdiana & Selucid empires, the Chinese, Persians, Greeks, Romans - everyone. Every religion is also involved.
It's all about the joining of the Caucasian, Mongolian and African genomes to produce the modern human, with special reference to red hair - and refreshing these genomes close to the source every 400 years via a combination of inbreeding and outbreeding.
The Caucuses were the original breeding zone, which is why so many wars have been fought there. The current war in Afghanistan is also all about this, as are all the "ethnic cleansing" programmes. Al Queda means "Gold Queen".
They hide groups of people in caves, in deserts and on islands; the Greek islands, the Pacific, Corsica, Sardinia, Ibeza; All the explorers were also involved; Columbus, Cook, Tasman, Magellan.
It's who the Central American Maya were, as well as the Nth American indians.
This is also what the Elusian Mysteries were about.
Difficult to tell it all in one post.
Specific questions about people. times and locations are easier.
hatshepsut
26-04-2009, 09:42 PM
I don't completely disagree with you but one thing hit my BS detector. They own all resources?
Okay....
So:
For one. If I attain my own resources, how can that happen if they do in fact control all resources.
also... why resort to false flags, media psy ops, or even military might if they actually controlled ALL of the resources? They own some parts of it, but mostly just the big brand stuff.. I can buy meat from a local butcher, buy vegetables from a local farmer, make my own wine, or even excevate my own gold if I wanted to... No doubt, they WANT to own all resources and try to get as close to that as possible, but I wouldn't say they currently have THAT MUCH control over ALL resources.
Of course not. They need you to stay alive, breed and provide labour - and in fact, their rationale is that of the greater good of mankind. The resources they been historically intersted in, are gold, tin, copper (for making iron) blond and redheaded women, and water. Whoever controls the mountain top water, controls the fate of all those below.
hatshepsut
26-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Is arabic connected as well?
Yes, it all is. It predates writing, although you can see the start of it in sanskrit, but it is in Spanish and English that it really gets going. English in particular seems to have been contrived with the express purpose of identifying who and what is where - which is why Dan Brown refers to it as a "pure language". More on that later.
Look at SpanIsh first. The verb "to be" in Spanish is "ser". Do you know who the Seres were? Check them out on Wikipedia. Cauasian breeding stock, closed society, silk producers. The Silk Road was the primary means of transporting all cargo, including human.
The other way of being in Spanish is "estar". Do you see it? "Is TAR".
Ser refers to the serenity of the Caucasian genome -as opposed to the action based way of TarTar being.
I can go on.
hatshepsut
26-04-2009, 09:55 PM
Everything is of interest in the world of conspiracy;)
Then you know of course that the lion is one of their symbols, going way back. There are others.
hatshepsut
26-04-2009, 10:06 PM
Yes absolutely, and the Scythian, Sogdiana & Selucid empires, the Chinese, Persians, Greeks, Romans - everyone. Every religion is also involved.
It's all about the joining of the Caucasian, Mongolian and African genomes to produce the modern human, with special reference to red hair - and refreshing these genomes close to the source every 400 years via a combination of inbreeding and outbreeding.
The Caucuses were the original breeding zone, which is why so many wars have been fought there. The current war in Afghanistan is also all about this, as are all the "ethnic cleansing" programmes. Al Queda means "Gold Queen".
They hide groups of people in caves, in deserts and on islands; the Greek islands, the Pacific, Corsica, Sardinia, Gibraltar, Ibeza. All the explorers were also involved; Columbus, Cook, Tasman, Magellan.
It's who the Central American Maya were, as well as the Nth American indians.
This is also what the Elusian Mysteries were about.
Difficult to tell it all in one post.
Specific questions about people. times and locations are easier.
Central to this have been the Kypchaks, who were kind of Neanderthal celebrities, used as military and reproductive slaves of a unique status. They were the Maya of Mexico - also the Mamluks of Egypt. They actually started out as the Baka pygmies of Central Africa, who along with the Bantu, ended up in Baku in the Caucuses - which is incidentally, the home of Islam as of this year - and are still bred in Mexico. Yes, there are still Neanderthals here in Mexico.
Do you know who the Evenki were? Crucial. They had the blending gene, as in even.
stewart edwards
26-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Yes, it all is.
Look at SpanIsh first. The verb "to be" in Spanish is "ser". Do you know who the Seres were? Check them out on Wikipedia. Cauasian breeding stock, closed society, silk producers. The Silk Road was the primary means of transporting all cargo, including human.
The other way of being in Spanish is "estar". Do you see it? "Is TAR".
Ser refers to the serenity of the Caucasian genome -as opposed to the action based way of TarTar being.
I can go on.Please do and explain how arabic fits in Min Fadlak.
Also do you think that the way Spanish conjugates verbs is significant in this regard?
lightgiver
26-04-2009, 11:29 PM
Then you know of course that the lion is one of their symbols, going way back. There are others.
Of course but do enlighten us further.;)
watson_k
26-04-2009, 11:33 PM
Please do and explain how arabic fits in Min Fadlak.
Lol, Isn't Hatshepsut a female Pharaoh? If so wouldn't that be Min Fadlik :p. Or is it a guy using a female Pharaohs name?
stewart edwards
26-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Lol, Isn't Hatshepsut a female Pharaoh? If so wouldn't that be Min Fadlik :p. Or is it a guy using a female Pharaohs name?Indeed and well spotted. But did Hatshepsuit not take on the persona of a King and made herself look male in regalia etc, not of a Queen? I will stop digging now.:eek:
And for Egyptian buffs out there, can you spot any broad brush similarities with my avatar and one of Hatshepsuts names?
lightgiver
26-04-2009, 11:53 PM
Indeed and well spotted. But did Hatshepsuit not take on the persona of a King and made herself look male in regalia etc, not of a Queen? I will stop digging now.:eek:
And for Egyptian buffs out there, can you spot any broad brush similarities with my avatar and one of Hatshepsuts names?
Sekhmet
watson_k
26-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Indeed and well spotted. But did Hatshepsuit not take on the persona of a King and made herself look male in regalia etc, not of a Queen? I will stop digging now.:eek:
And for Egyptian buffs out there, can you spot any broad brush similarities with my avatar and one of Hatshepsuts names?
Oh yeah, that is right.
Hmm your avatar, I'm guessing that's a sun disk, so Ra. Ankh, breath, life. and That middle one refers to a female.
Female, Life, Sun. Err I'm not sure?? lol At a guess, it's referring to a female God.
stewart edwards
26-04-2009, 11:56 PM
SekhmetExplain? (this isnt it by the way but I am curious of how you concluded that).
lightgiver
26-04-2009, 11:58 PM
Explain? (this isnt it by the way but I am curious of how you concluded that).
Most of the official statues commissioned of Hatshepsut show her less symbolically and more naturally, as a woman in typical dresses of the nobility of her day. Notably, even after assuming the formal regalia, Hatshepsut still described herself as a beautiful woman, often as the most beautiful of women, and although she assumed almost all of her father's titles, she declined to take the title "The Strong Bull" (the full title being, The Strong Bull of his Mother), which tied the pharaoh to the goddesses Isis, the throne, and Hathor, (the cow who gave birth to and protected the pharaohs)—by being her son sitting on her throne—an unnecessary title for her, since Hatshepsut became allied with the goddesses, herself, which no male pharaoh could. Rather than the strong bull, Hatshepsut, having served as a very successful warrior during the early portion of her reign as pharaoh, associated herself with the lioness image of Sekhmet, the major war deity in the Egyptian pantheon.
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:08 AM
Before I sidetrack this thread unintentionally I had better explain. Pharoahs had 5 names. One of Hatshetsuts was maatkare. You can find what ka is easily enough on google (it is a facinating area to explore). My avatar:-
Ra, maat, ankh (pronounced maatanchhre) can mean truth of life in the source. Not that far from hatshepsuits maatkare.
It is an important name, for it is designed to reflect how you intend to live your life, the way that you will inspire others. It came to me when I was forty in an Egyptian Collection and have used it as my avatar since.
I love the eighteenty dynasty. Wonder if I was as much of a pain in the ass back then as I am today.:eek: As an aside the one part of Egyptian history that was largely written out of the history books is the one that is most well known in the world today and the one which produced the idea of a single god.
Hatshepsut why did you choose to use this name as your screenname? Just curious.
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:13 AM
Hatshepsut became allied with the goddesses, herself, which no male pharaoh could.Not strictly true. All you need to do is balance male and female energies within.
the lioness image of Sekhmet, the major war deity in the Egyptian pantheon.And one which once made Ra Cry after doing a job a wee bit too enthusiastically.
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 12:15 AM
Not strictly true. All you need to do is balance male and female energies within.
And one which once made Ra Cry after doing a job a wee bit too enthusiastically.
It came from a reputable source,so explain why its not true,or strictly true.
also,
The CT scans of the mummy believed to be Hatshepsut suggest she was about fifty years old when she died from a ruptured abscess after removal of a tooth. Although this was the cause, it is quite possible she would not have lived much longer; there are signs in her mummy of metastatic bone cancer, as well as possible liver cancer and diabetes mellitus.
Even the Pharaohs were subject to sickness death and decay,like everyone on this plane of existence.
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:18 AM
It came from a reputable source,Which one?
so explain why its not true,or strictly true.Once you have learnt how to balance your inner male and female energies (which we all have) you open doors into the esoteric. In this case you come quite a bit closer to walking with the gods. Just my personal experience.
Now your reputable source please.
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 12:25 AM
Which one?
Once you have learnt how to balance your inner male and female energies (which we all have) you open doors into the esoteric. In this case you come quite a bit closer to walking with the gods. Just my personal experience.
Now your reputable source please.
Just like Buddhism then.;)
First what is your name.
I will give it a 2nd stab,Osiris or Anubis
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:32 AM
Just like Buddhism then.;)
First what is your name.
I will give it a 2nd stab,Osiris .Lightgiver, you quoted someone without stating that you did, then claimed that the source was reputable. Who is the source? Let us all decide whether we think it is a reputable source. I may agree with you.
You know my name - Stewart Edwards, not stop having fun and state who you quoted.
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 12:35 AM
Lightgiver, you quoted someone without stating that you did, then claimed that the source was reputable. Who is the source? Let us all decide whetehr we think it is a reputable source. I may agree with you.
You know my name - Stewart Edwards, not stop having fun and state who you quoted.
No the other name for Hapshetsut and sometimes she is depicted with a beard is she not.
BTW have you just edited your post 20? that was not on before.
Now I know it.
here is my link http://books.google.fr/books?id=rLUiO9D42GIC&dq=Hatshepsut+and+Sekhmet&hl=en&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0
and,
http://ladyyatexel.deviantart.com/art/Maatkare-Hatshepsut-106746131
Her name is on both pillars as Maatkare, her throne name,
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:40 AM
No the other name for Hapshetsut and sometimes she is depicted with a beard is she not.Hatshepsuit like all pharoahs had 5 names. I gave the similar one on page 2 of this thread. It is a facinating area to study Lightgiver. I cant recommend it highly enough.
Now the source of your quote please, for the third time. Or do we have to guess who your reputable sources are? As I said I may agree with you that it is a reputable source.
Re above cross post - thank you.
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 12:43 AM
Hatshepsuit like all pharoahs had 5 names. I gave the similar one on page 2 of this thread. It is a facinating area to study Lightgiver. I cant recommend it highly enough.
Now the source of your quote please, for the third time. Or do we have to guess who your reputable sources are? As I said I may agree with you that it is a reputable source.
I do know quite a bit,my partner is obsessed with Egypt and has been many times,and she reminds me of a Pharaoh;):D
I am going to visit in a year or two.
stewart edwards
27-04-2009, 12:44 AM
I do know quite a bit,my partner is obsessed with Egypt and has been many times,and she reminds me of a Pharaoh;):D
I am going to visit in a year or two.Get her on this forum.
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 12:50 AM
Get her on this forum.
I am trying,she is with me at the moment,but when she gets back to the Uk,she is going to go on the net and this forum,I will let you know when she does;) Thats if she tells me.:D
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8633/womena6.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=womena6.jpg)
hatshepsut
27-04-2009, 02:01 AM
Before I sidetrack this thread unintentionally I had better explain. Pharoahs had 5 names. One of Hatshetsuts was maatkare. You can find what ka is easily enough on google (it is a facinating area to explore). My avatar:-
Ra, maat, ankh (pronounced maatanchhre) can mean truth of life in the source. Not that far from hatshepsuits maatkare.
It is an important name, for it is designed to reflect how you intend to live your life, the way that you will inspire others. It came to me when I was forty in an Egyptian Collection and have used it as my avatar since.
I love the eighteenty dynasty. Wonder if I was as much of a pain in the ass back then as I am today.:eek: As an aside the one part of Egyptian history that was largely written out of the history books is the one that is most well known in the world today and the one which produced the idea of a single god.
Hatshepsut why did you choose to use this name as your screenname? Just curious.
I just grabbed it off the cuff because it's a great word, because she's an interesting androgynous and gutsy phenomenon, because her temple in Luxor is fascinatingly modern (I've been there) and because she gave rise to a dynamic era.
She was one too, of course. They all were. Egypt was subject to the same dissemination of information, culture and technology as China, India, Sumeria and the Levant, from 5000 BC on. The pyramid at Saqqara for instance, is obviously a Sumerian ziggernaut. More particularly, the Hyksos invasion before the 18th Dynasty was when the genetic seeds of that particular period were sown. Redheads everywhere under those black wigs.
hatshepsut
27-04-2009, 02:10 AM
Most of the official statues commissioned of Hatshepsut show her less symbolically and more naturally, as a woman in typical dresses of the nobility of her day. Notably, even after assuming the formal regalia, Hatshepsut still described herself as a beautiful woman, often as the most beautiful of women, and although she assumed almost all of her father's titles, she declined to take the title "The Strong Bull" (the full title being, The Strong Bull of his Mother), which tied the pharaoh to the goddesses Isis, the throne, and Hathor, (the cow who gave birth to and protected the pharaohs)—by being her son sitting on her throne—an unnecessary title for her, since Hatshepsut became allied with the goddesses, herself, which no male pharaoh could. Rather than the strong bull, Hatshepsut, having served as a very successful warrior during the early portion of her reign as pharaoh, associated herself with the lioness image of Sekhmet, the major war deity in the Egyptian pantheon.
The bull came from the Myceneans, who were the Hyksos, who were the Archeans, who did the Temple of Knossos in Crete, where they performed these mating rituals. It still appears in Spanish culture today. It represents masculinity at its most dangerous and powerful.
By the way, Castillian spanish is called so because it refers to castes. As are castles. Who is inside and who is outside.
Slavery was very big in this world order. Only a few, such as Cyrus the Great of Persia had the integrity to resist it. Mostly the power they accorded themselves was abused absolutely, as absolute power frequently is.
hatshepsut
27-04-2009, 02:14 AM
Most of the official statues commissioned of Hatshepsut show her less symbolically and more naturally, as a woman in typical dresses of the nobility of her day. Notably, even after assuming the formal regalia, Hatshepsut still described herself as a beautiful woman, often as the most beautiful of women, and although she assumed almost all of her father's titles, she declined to take the title "The Strong Bull" (the full title being, The Strong Bull of his Mother), which tied the pharaoh to the goddesses Isis, the throne, and Hathor, (the cow who gave birth to and protected the pharaohs)—by being her son sitting on her throne—an unnecessary title for her, since Hatshepsut became allied with the goddesses, herself, which no male pharaoh could. Rather than the strong bull, Hatshepsut, having served as a very successful warrior during the early portion of her reign as pharaoh, associated herself with the lioness image of Sekhmet, the major war deity in the Egyptian pantheon.
These mating rituals such as the Greek Elusian mysteries were about anonymous copulation behind gold masks, followed by death for the slaves via the same ripping out of the heart as the Toltecs, Aztecs and Maya performed.
hatshepsut
27-04-2009, 02:32 AM
The Maya, which is who I started this research with, are in Hinduism, an illusion to be seen through, like an epiphany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(illusion)
The reason reincarnation is held to be ultimate reality by Hinduism is that with these core genetic groups, they can regenerate the same phenotypes over and over from scratch. Their caste system gives them tight control of inbreeding and outbreeding, which is why India keeps breeding smarter and smarter people who have all the wealth.
hatshepsut
27-04-2009, 02:34 AM
I recently discovered that the Koran is telling the same story, of core groups of people being flown around all over. This is apparently what the Salman Rushdie furor was all about.
Yes, it all is. It predates writing, although you can see the start of it in sanskrit, but it is in Spanish and English that it really gets going. English in particular seems to have been contrived with the express purpose of identifying who and what is where - which is why Dan Brown refers to it as a "pure language". More on that later.
Look at SpanIsh first. The verb "to be" in Spanish is "ser". Do you know who the Seres were? Check them out on Wikipedia. Cauasian breeding stock, closed society, silk producers. The Silk Road was the primary means of transporting all cargo, including human.
The other way of being in Spanish is "estar". Do you see it? "Is TAR".
Ser refers to the serenity of the Caucasian genome -as opposed to the action based way of TarTar being.
I can go on.
Linda Goodman the astrologer said English was the mother language ,and it was a living language .As it evolved and mutated . Something along those lines . She disappeared under mysterious circumstances to do with the death of her daughter i think .Perhaps someone here knows more on that subject .
Also has anyone here read Genisis the first book of revelation by David Woods .Genisis he says refers to the Genes of Isis.Interesting read . :D Good thread look forward t oreading more . Especially about the Red hairred links .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genisis-First-Revelations-David-Wood/dp/0859361802
lightgiver
27-04-2009, 09:43 PM
The bull came from the Myceneans, who were the Hyksos, who were the Archeans, who did the Temple of Knossos in Crete, where they performed these mating rituals. It still appears in Spanish culture today. It represents masculinity at its most dangerous and powerful.
By the way, Castillian spanish is called so because it refers to castes. As are castles. Who is inside and who is outside.
Slavery was very big in this world order. Only a few, such as Cyrus the Great of Persia had the integrity to resist it. Mostly the power they accorded themselves was abused absolutely, as absolute power frequently is.
Cheers for your Info hapshetsut ;)
and on your last paragraph on slavery,some things never change,it appears the same bloodlines are still running the show.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 12:01 AM
Linda Goodman the astrologer said English was the mother language ,and it was a living language .As it evolved and mutated . Something along those lines . She disappeared under mysterious circumstances to do with the death of her daughter i think .Perhaps someone here knows more on that subject .
Also has anyone here read Genisis the first book of revelation by David Woods .Genisis he says refers to the Genes of Isis.Interesting read . :D Good thread look forward t oreading more . Especially about the Red hairred links .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genisis-First-Revelations-David-Wood/dp/0859361802
Genes of Isis? Good pickup. That's exactly what English does. Formalises the programme by embedding it, making it simultaneously both hidden and visible.
Genome is another one. Do you know what this refers to?
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 12:06 AM
Cheers for your Info hapshetsut ;)
and on your last paragraph on slavery,some things never change,it appears the same bloodlines are still running the show.
Yes indeed. The massive wealth produced by the programme creates rampant egotism and narcissism - which finds slavery much more attractive than paying people, even when they can: power trippers consumed with both grandiose and petty power plays as a kind of vocation, since they have no other. In other words, arrogant imbeciles -the defining psychology of the world today.
lightgiver
28-04-2009, 12:29 AM
It also allows the Brahmans to say, Do not Revolt no matter how shit we treat you, or you'll find yourself in the same situation in your next life. You're the scum you are because of how you acted in previous lives. If you shut your mouth and listen to the rules, the escape is not in this life, but in some future life when sufficient good karma has been accumulated, so one can be born into luxury and power, as is something to be proud of, a well merited reward for worthy effort in past lives.
Life's only an illusion when you have the point of view of Life is suffering as did the Orientals. The Occidental doctrine is life on the basis of experience. But alas, it's your choice which way you choose.
No matter how high position one is born,one is still subject to the causes and sufferings of samsara,and no one escapes that easily including the Brahman's and elites,this is why the Buddha taught the middle way and not the Hindu version,because he saw through the flawed ideology s,and that's what the caste and elite system is,flawed to the core,just because one is born into wealth and power that does not necessarily mean one will be happy and contented,quite the opposite in some cases.
and if one person treats another like dirt,so to will that person receive the effects of their actions,it is only a matter of time and karma.;)
One must mix wisdom with compassion no matter what walk of life you are from,I have seen the poor treat the poor just as badly,just as some rich treat the poor badly and vice versa.
We all must escape samsara,this is the aim:) and to help and nurture each other the best we can.
watson_k
28-04-2009, 12:37 AM
No matter how high position one is born,one is still subject to the causes and sufferings of samsara,and no one escapes that easily including the Brahman's and elites,this is why the Buddha taught the middle way and not the Hindu version,because he saw through the flawed ideology s,and that's what the caste and elite system is,flawed to the core,just because one is born into wealth and power that does not necessarily mean one will be happy and contented,quite the opposite in some cases.
and if one person treats another like dirt,so to will that person receive the effects of their actions,it is only a matter of time and karma.;)
One must mix wisdom with compassion no matter what walk of life you are from,I have seen the poor treat the poor just as badly,just as some rich treat the poor badly and vice versa.
We all must escape samsara,this is the aim:)
If you believe in human reincarnation, then yeah it is :)
asentinel
28-04-2009, 06:40 AM
where do the original tribes come from? The ones controlling the breeding I mean. Is there any connection with the cuniform texts that are yet to be decyphered?
That name mentioned earlier sounded like the scottish name McIntyre, is there any connection to the red headed celtic peoples from Scotland and vikings of Scandinavia?
boots
28-04-2009, 10:37 AM
Yes absolutely, and the Scythian, Sogdiana & Selucid empires, the Chinese, Persians, Greeks, Romans - everyone. Every religion is also involved.
It's all about the joining of the Caucasian, Mongolian and African genomes to produce the modern human, with special reference to red hair - and refreshing these genomes close to the source every 400 years via a combination of inbreeding and outbreeding.
The Caucuses were the original breeding zone, which is why so many wars have been fought there. The current war in Afghanistan is also all about this, as are all the "ethnic cleansing" programmes. Al Queda means "Gold Queen".
They hide groups of people in caves, in deserts and on islands; the Greek islands, the Pacific, Corsica, Sardinia, Ibeza; All the explorers were also involved; Columbus, Cook, Tasman, Magellan.
It's who the Central American Maya were, as well as the Nth American indians.
This is also what the Elusian Mysteries were about.
Difficult to tell it all in one post.
Specific questions about people. times and locations are easier.
Ok mate what is the significance of red haired people?
I know they have found red headed mummies in China dating back many years before the spread of the white race.
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hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 04:19 PM
where do the original tribes come from? The ones controlling the breeding I mean. Is there any connection with the cuniform texts that are yet to be decyphered?
That name mentioned earlier sounded like the scottish name McIntyre, is there any connection to the red headed celtic peoples from Scotland and vikings of Scandinavia?
They came from monkeys, as we all did. All the apes are involved, especially the rhesus, the chimpanzee, the gibbon, the baboon, the oranguatan, the gorilla and probably the sloth. It goes back to the cambrian explosion and the permian extinction, and since then, to various ice ages and warmer periods which alternately enabled geograhical expansion and then cut groups off. It really got going after the last ice age 11,000BC.
The original tribes controlling the breeding were the Tartar mongolians from Lake Bakai, (see the Baka in there?) the oldest lake in the world. Here the Baka pygmies and the Bantus from central Africa joined with the Evenki, to form the protoype Tartars. Later, they joined with the white caucasian (Finns) probably in Baku, which is accessible via Eritria and Somalia in Africa. Note the coicidence of names there. Eritrea sounds like "·retrieve" (the core genome) and Somalia denotes "Soma" the ancient drug of the Gods, frequently mentioned in the Rig Veda- and produced where? Afghanistan (capital: Kabul, read cabal) . This region is seminal because it is also proximate to India, which had already joined the African and Mongolan genomes by sea, to produce the Indians. When the caucasian genome was introduced to the mix, the Harappan cviilzation was created.
Back to Baku.(See the Baka and Bantu in there?) Check out the names of the bars in Baku.
The Clansman", The Caledonia, "Corner Bar", "Shakespeares", "Finnigans" the "Rig Bar", "O'Malley's" and the "Phoenix Bar.
Clansman (cabal), Caledonia (Scottish redheads) Corner bar (joined genomes) Shakespeare (shaking a spear, referring to bronze age cultures) Fiinnigans (Finns, the original caucasians) Rig Bar (Rig Veda, Indians) O'Malleys (Irish redheads, celts) Phoenix bar (rising from the ashes to produce another fire). "Fire" is a fundamental symbol, referring to both redheads and reproductive heat. It is connoted by the letters "ty" (T for tartar, y for 3-way joined genome) as in Scythia, Tyre, Tyne etc. Welsh is full of such lettering, and indeed the Welsh are right in there. Ever wonder why it's such a closed society and so many Welsh emigrated to Patagonia? Breeding programme.
Back to the rhesus - the rh negative blood group is a critical factor in all this, because the groups without it are known as "blue bloods" - their blood shows blue under certain lighting. This is the group which has apponted itself as European royalty throughout history - as superior and pure. But the irony is that without the rh factor, they are genetically defective, and their inbreeding has rendered most of them complete imbeciles.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 04:28 PM
Back to the original question - yes, there is a connection. The Finns became the Vikings who deposited "pure" caucasian groups in the Scottish mountains and highlands, who then became the Caledonians (later the Calvinists) - specifically in the inaccessible Orkney and Shetland islands, and also in Kintyre, facing Ireland, where they bred joined genomes who became the Celts. Anywhere there are two very different genomes livng in close proximity there is a breeding programme going on, accompanied by almost constant warfare, a la Serbia/ Croatia.
stewart edwards
28-04-2009, 04:41 PM
Back to the rhesus - the rh negative blood group is a critical factor in all this, because the groups without it are known as "blue bloods" - their blood shows blue under certain lighting.Weeeheeeyy I am Royalty after all:eek: Now where did I place my honours?;)
This is the group which has apponted itself as European royalty throughout historyLook back to Ancient Egypt and Scotland and compare.
But the irony is that without the rh factor, they are genetically defective, and their inbreeding has rendered most of them complete imbeciles.Ah that explains me being a right Royal pain in the proverbial then.:D
Lightgiver, knowing that you are into this sort of blood stuff, do you agree with hatshepsuts analysis?
Oh I forgot I am RH Positive. Bang goes that idea.:( [Sorry it is silly afternoon time]
Hatshepsut can you point me in the direction of scientific source material for this please, it facinates me.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 04:42 PM
To be more precise, the Celts were actually created in Carthage with an African component, and a 3-way joined genome - see the NOK civilization located in present day Cameroon. See the "moor" in this word? The Moors provided the African genome in Spain (known as Iberia, derived from Iberia in the Caucauses, derived from Siberia, in Russia). The very word Caucasian tells you it is two way joined genome. The prefix "cauc" is from sanskrit "cak" meaing "to cook".
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 07:37 PM
A short word about the gibbon.
The gibbon seems to be a crucial evolutionary component.
"The Taoists ascribed occult properties to the gibbons, believing them to be able to live a thousand years and to turn into humans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
Gibbon remains have also been found in Gibraltar (see the gibbon royal altar in there?) along with Neanderthals and modern humans. Gibraltar survived the ice age, and is of pěvotal importance, having been home to the Pillars of Hercules, and historically contested by just about everyone.
"Fitzgibbon" is also a Scottish name - actually both Fitzgibbon and Cameron are in my own family.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 07:44 PM
Weeeheeeyy I am Royalty after all:eek: Now where did I place my honours?;)
Look back to Ancient Egypt and Scotland and compare.
Ah that explains me being a right Royal pain in the proverbial then.:D
Lightgiver, knowing that you are into this sort of blood stuff, do you agree with hatshepsuts analysis?
Oh I forgot I am RH Positive. Bang goes that idea.:( [Sorry it is silly afternoon time]
Hatshepsut can you point me in the direction of scientific source material for this please, it facinates me.
I've gotten it all from Wikipedia, every last bit. I know I'm all over the place and unreferenced, but I had my laptop stolen recently, so I'm posting from internet cafes in a much less coherent and streamlined fashion than I would like. Life is fairly dodgy here in Mexico, and I really want to write this all up into a book, but until I (somehow) get another laptop, I'm reduced to this scrappy, untidy raving. lol.
However if you have specific questions you can't answer via Wikipedia, let me know. I have all the sources, I just don't have the resources.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Speaking of Gibraltar, Francis Bacon was in on it (Novum Organum) and also other Elizabethans, including Philip Sydney - "Arcadia" (archeans) oh, look where I found the link -lol http://www.luminarium.org/renlit/sidbio.htm- Christopher Marlowe, Shakespeare - and others later including Tolkein (this is what LOTR is all about) George MacDonald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_MacDonald) - check out the bird, golden key and rainbow symbolism of this work Evenor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evenor_(collection)) See the Evenki in there? (aka known as Evenks and Evens). All sorts of others too, which I'll remember as soon as I leave the internet cafe, lol.
I have absolutely shitloads of material on all this, including all the American Indians, who were effectively the whole thing in microcosm, as is Mexico.
hatshepsut
28-04-2009, 08:20 PM
Here is another relevant thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45656&page=10
The pěneal gland is also highly relevant, as are pine trees, which are grown in every area this programme has founded. Guess who eats pine needles? The rhesus monkeys do. Pine trees are also fractals, reiterating their shape on every level, and I'm fairly sure the mandelbrot is in the picture too, on a fundamental morphological level.
stewart edwards
28-04-2009, 08:53 PM
I've gotten it all from Wikipedia, every last bit. I know I'm all over the place and unreferenced, but I had my laptop stolen recently, so I'm posting from internet cafes in a much less coherent and streamlined fashion than I would like. Life is fairly dodgy here in Mexico, and I really want to write this all up into a book, but until I (somehow) get another laptop, I'm reduced to this scrappy, untidy raving. lol.
However if you have specific questions you can't answer via Wikipedia, let me know. I have all the sources, I just don't have the resources.Thanks, but I am a bit cautious of Wiki as a reference source on esoteric matters. Get that book written though, even if you dont get it published, by focusing your thoughts, you may find that it helps springboard you forwards spiritually. Getting published is irrelevant (well I would say that given that I am unpublished:)), what matters is that you are forced to think hard and that can help you take steps forwards. It worked for me.
asentinel
29-04-2009, 09:12 AM
Did you mean the rh positive factor in the blood denotes this "blue blood" condition?
Are they trying to breed out any possibility of mass usage of pineal gland?
hatshepsut
29-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Thanks, but I am a bit cautious of Wiki as a reference source on esoteric matters. Get that book written though, even if you dont get it published, by focusing your thoughts, you may find that it helps springboard you forwards spiritually. Getting published is irrelevant (well I would say that given that I am unpublished:)), what matters is that you are forced to think hard and that can help you take steps forwards. It worked for me.
Oh no, I meant that all the facts are readily accessible - and riight in everyone's face. The line joining the dots is mine.
I was a freelance journalist for many years, writing for newspapers, magazines and academic journals.
Whether anyone will touch this is another question.
hatshepsut
29-04-2009, 04:20 PM
Did you mean the rh positive factor in the blood denotes this "blue blood" condition?
Are they trying to breed out any possibility of mass usage of pineal gland?
No, rh negative produces blue blood. I don't understand the second question.
What do you have on these star children? The star is certainly their leading symbol.
hatshepsut
29-04-2009, 04:54 PM
To be more precise, the Celts were actually created in Carthage with an African component, and a 3-way joined genome - see the NOK civilization located in present day Cameroon. See the "moor" in this word? The Moors provided the African genome in Spain (known as Iberia, derived from Iberia in the Caucauses, derived from Siberia, in Russia). The very word Caucasian tells you it is two way joined genome. The prefix "cauc" is from sanskrit "cak" meaing "to cook".
The Caucasian population in Nok and Carthage are the Blue Men of the Sahara.
hatshepsut
29-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Just to back up for a moment.
When the caucasian and the mongolian genome first met (about 50,000 BC), it was explosive. By the grandchildren, it was clear that the synthesis of the two types of minds was a powerful creative force. The caucasian brain contributed imagination, artistry, vision and serenity. The mongolian mind brought language, problem solving, spatial relations, analytic faculties and a thundering energy. It had acquired these faculties through its interaction with horses, who it needed to communicate with and train. Then the mongolian started travelling because he could - in groups, so logistics and organizational intelligence was developed.
When these two genomes merged, a whole new superbeing emerged. It didn't yet have the African kinetic and musical intelligence, which would facilitate the development of language further, but it had the two halves of its brain in place. And the difference was palpable. It was a fully creative energy and kept getting better with every generation as the group learned and evolved culturally.
When I started thinking about the Africans, something about the Mayans kept gnawing at me - their very short, squat, heavy stature - strongly reminiscent of the pygmies of the Phantom comics, and of the buddha too. So I researched Pygmies and came upon the Baka, now world famous for their musicality, yet historically living in close proximitiy to the tall, lean Bantu - the complete opposite kind of phenotype. Between them, they comprise the full gamut of human height and weight. This is what these core groups are about, collectively constituting pure inbred groups of all human possibilities, able to then be outbred and start the whole thing over from scratch.
asentinel
30-04-2009, 10:15 AM
Are they working in other dimensions/time lines and transporting children/adults forward/backward in time to use the dna. I met someone who suspected this, he was perhaps rejected as he was highly intelligent/musical/creatively gifted but gay. He was adopted by older parents who had military connections. Is this type of activity possible.
hatshepsut
30-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Are they working in other dimensions/time lines and transporting children/adults forward/backward in time to use the dna. I met someone who suspected this, he was perhaps rejected as he was highly intelligent/musical/creatively gifted but gay. He was adopted by older parents who had military connections. Is this type of activity possible.
Yes, yes, yes, they are retrieving the core genomes and very much reaching back in time in this fashion. This is exactly what I'm saying. The fact that your friend was gifted and adopted by military parents is highly salient. He was a form of "star child", whose biological parents are effectively invisible - instead he was inducted into a power regime, and given "grandparents". I have seen this myself here in Mexico.
Back to The Time Machine (Yes, HG Wells was right there when he wrote that, he was talking about the programnme - the inbreeding of both the Caucasian and the Mongolian genomes - and how primitive and banal they become when unjoined) - perhaps I haven't made this sufficiently clear because science doesn't quite yet support it, although with the Neanderthal genome now sequenced, it soon will - and that is this:
These core groups are using Neanderthals. This is what the Kypchaks are, what the Mayans were, what the Baka were , and still are, somewhere deep in the jungle and in various caves. They're Neanderthals. N's didn't suddenly die out or evolve in 24,000 BC . They just disappeared from view. The N genome somehow carries something of vital importance to evolution and cross breeding. And I have personally met a number of what i now realise are Neanderthals crosses here N Mexico (in the Mundo Maya region), wide large mouths, and a (kind of chimpanzee) protruding upper jaw.
Neanderthals are alive and well today. I wish I could make some money out of this information. lol.
hatshepsut
30-04-2009, 06:29 PM
And these Neanderthals are dwarves - pygmies if you prefer. They also go by the name of gnomes. Spot the genome now?
hatshepsut
30-04-2009, 06:34 PM
This image I'm using as an avatar is by Michael Parkes, whose stuf is full of beautiful (Valykrian) redheads, large cats, gargoyles, horns and dwarves.
Do you think the monkey in my avatar is accidental? No. Parkes is telling it visually. Do you think it is a baboon? The Egyptians were big on baboons.
hatshepsut
30-04-2009, 08:38 PM
All this dwarf and pygmy talk sounds bizarre, I know. lol. But there it is. I'm just reporting what I've found.
Snow white and the seven dwarves is right there - about a girl as white as snow, red as blood, and black as ebony, in the constant company of dwarves wearing phrygian caps .. which some of the Tarim mummies were also wearing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap
"..the Phrygian cap was introduced to ancient Greece around 500 B.C.E. from the nearby land of Phrygia, in what is now Turkey."
http://www.fashionencyclopedia.com/fashion_costume_culture/The-Ancient-World-Greece/Phrygian-Cap.html
** Turkey of course, is the home of the Tartar, as in Scottish tartan.
asentinel
01-05-2009, 10:31 AM
you should maybe publish an on-line book if you cannot get one done in print. Or make a documentary video, Chris Everard from Enigma Channel is running courses in France to foster new talent and also employ new people for his production house. Look into that?
My friend relayed some things to me which were quite odd and for his privacy I cannot really divulge much. He has been (I believe) "given" aids and is watched by military personnel.
Your theories are interesting and tie in with bits and pieces I have gleaned from various sources.
I wonder about various places which become bases or places of intense interest for eg. US and other military, at various times in history, what about La Paz, Bolivia?
Those caps in an ethnic wool weave and print have become quite popular with hip young travellers, musos/artists. Have you noticed?
Places where there is suddenly tribal unrest and military police in large numbers have to be sent in and usually end up staying for years. Solomon Islands comes to mind.
Have you read/seen any work of Bruce Cathie (New Zealander, ex pilot, now in his eighties), he was apparently talking to "people" in authority (his own Govt and US) who told him years ago that they had knowledge of ten dimensions at least, when he was researching the fourth. He was told that mainstream education does not allow students to know about full extent of scientific discovery. Only the very brightest (in the academic system) who will sign official secrets non-disclosure docs, are allowed "in".
Have you noticed that many gifted entertainers are small in stature and have unusual features. (not just the small person ego syndrome, and forget MJ's new features, but pixie, elf, gnome like as a description does come to mind).
Were they the Irish little people, or faeries, of mythology? I have another gay male friend who swears he is descended from this line. He has many dreams of other worlds and has much trouble fitting into this realm and culture. Also I wonder about the androgynous or gay connection in these programmes. I wonder if what they are doing with dna tends to mix up/blur the clear cut lines of gender as we know it traditionally, which may have been a lie anyway, just societal streaming for convenience. Not that this is a bad thing, or anything wrong with that as Jerry Seinfeld would say!
Just wonder if you have touched on these aspects.
hatshepsut
01-05-2009, 04:18 PM
You are right onto it. Limited time right now (have to work), but I'll keep posting when I can. You are righter than you know.
hatshepsut
01-05-2009, 04:31 PM
Btw, regarding the thread elsewhere on Malta - the name itself tells all. Bad Tar. Understand? "This location is bad for the Tartar, as the Caucasians have taken control here." Same with the Maldives. Bad divas - from the Hindu devas . Originally occupied by Dravidians, they subsequently lost control of it, so it became "bad" for them.
See what English is doing? It's right in yer face. Everywhere.
hatshepsut
01-05-2009, 04:43 PM
you should maybe publish an on-line book if you cannot get one done in print. Or make a documentary video, Chris Everard from Enigma Channel is running courses in France to foster new talent and also employ new people for his production house. Look into that?
My friend relayed some things to me which were quite odd and for his privacy I cannot really divulge much. He has been (I believe) "given" aids and is watched by military personnel.
Your theories are interesting and tie in with bits and pieces I have gleaned from various sources.
I wonder about various places which become bases or places of intense interest for eg. US and other military, at various times in history, what about La Paz, Bolivia?
Those caps in an ethnic wool weave and print have become quite popular with hip young travellers, musos/artists. Have you noticed?
Places where there is suddenly tribal unrest and military police in large numbers have to be sent in and usually end up staying for years. Solomon Islands comes to mind.
Have you read/seen any work of Bruce Cathie (New Zealander, ex pilot, now in his eighties), he was apparently talking to "people" in authority (his own Govt and US) who told him years ago that they had knowledge of ten dimensions at least, when he was researching the fourth. He was told that mainstream education does not allow students to know about full extent of scientific discovery. Only the very brightest (in the academic system) who will sign official secrets non-disclosure docs, are allowed "in".
Have you noticed that many gifted entertainers are small in stature and have unusual features. (not just the small person ego syndrome, and forget MJ's new features, but pixie, elf, gnome like as a description does come to mind).
Were they the Irish little people, or faeries, of mythology? I have another gay male friend who swears he is descended from this line. He has many dreams of other worlds and has much trouble fitting into this realm and culture. Also I wonder about the androgynous or gay connection in these programmes. I wonder if what they are doing with dna tends to mix up/blur the clear cut lines of gender as we know it traditionally, which may have been a lie anyway, just societal streaming for convenience. Not that this is a bad thing, or anything wrong with that as Jerry Seinfeld would say!
Just wonder if you have touched on these aspects.
Yes I will publish online if necessary, and am making the first moves to do so right here.
Yes, the Irish are right in there - their name is derived from the Irtysh river in Central Asia in the Oxus valley, which was one of the original ancient hotspots. "Ir" is the Spanish verb "to go". See the "ty" in there?
The Irish faeries and pixies (and Tolkein's hobbits) are related to the the rhesus monkey - check out the pointed ears.
Solomon island - absolutely implicated - as are ALL of the Pacific islands including my own country of New Zealand, and hometown province of Otago.
Local tribal unrest? Got that right. This is what the extermination and moving about of all these ethnic groups is about - the possession of people - or alternatively, their extermination, so the other side doesn't get them. See how the Evenki have been moved about so much? I need to write more about them, as they and they alone carry the "evening" gene which is critical to the blending of the three genomes. I have the source somewhere.
Today I hope to sort my notes further, and find it
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 05:31 AM
I'm now fairly sure this "swine flu" here in Mexico is actually a play for power by the lluminati - biological warfare to get rid of Calderon and his war on drug cartels etc. The breeding programme is very active here - Calderon's name overtly tells you that ("cauldron"). This sudden flu has resulted in Mexico City being effectively shut down - a stunning achievement. And take a look at where the foreign victims came from and went back to, Finnland, New Zealand etc - significant current hotspots. The Tartar is making a play.
I'm also fairly sure that Obama to the North is a factor. There is now a Black Queen in the White House (and seriously, doesn't anyone notice that "Obama" is Osama bin?) His wife is a three-way join of African & Mongolian with hidden Caucasian. Correctly mated, their daughters will have red haired children. (Did she come from Qatar? read: African Queen controlled by Tartar).
Additionally, there is much activity afoot in Mexico with 2012 coming up. The Tartar is determined to take it back from the Caucasian, which has had it for 400 years now. Its cycle is almost over. Ghengis Khan rides again.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 05:13 PM
This programme is all about the Queen as reproductive entities, like bees. The beehive is a primary symbol, a la the "beehive" seat of govt in Wellington, NZ.
Honey production is historical, and control of bees became part of the programme when they realised that hives could be made portable (and taken to Mexico for instance where they became Mayan bees.) This is why the bees are currently disappearing from certain places in the world. They've been moved.
When the Queen is not on your side, or when women take reproductive control of themselves, they are then known as "witches." Remember the three witches in Macbeth stirring the cauldron? The word for witches in Spanish is "bruja" - pronounced "brew-ha", "ha" being the Mayan word for water.
Remember Hamlet and something rotten in the state of Denmark? For Denmark, also read Schleswig-Holstein, the Frisian islands and the Netherlands.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Okay, here are some of the most recent findings re Neanderthals.
"The little "people" - who stood at around four feet tall - have caused a lively debate amongst palaeoanthropologists .. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4418363.stm
They had language capacity.
"Already, the Max Planck team has found signs of two genes that Neanderthals and modern humans might have shared: one that's thought to confer language ability, and another that makes adults unable to digest lactose in milk. "
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100648070
".. we can be sure that part of the Neanderthal population was red-haired," said study team member Michael Hofreiter of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.
Holger Rompler of the University of Leipzig, Carles Lalueza-Fox of the University of Barcelona in Spain, and their colleagues extracted the mc1r gene from the bones of a 43,000-year-old Neanderthal from El Sidron, Spain, and a 50,000-year-old specimen from Monti Lessini, Italy. They found that both Neanderthal specimens contained a unique variant of the gene, one that was not found in nearly 4,000 modern humans they compared it with .."
"The gene is responsible for producing a protein that helps regulate the balance between the red-and-yellow pigment pheomelanin and the black-and-brown eumelanin."
"In the current study, the researchers tweaked a human mc1r gene so that it matched the variant found in Neanderthals. When they put the gene into modern human cells, it functioned in melatonin production as the modern variants do.. "
http://www.livescience.com/health/071025-red-heads.html.
So the Neanderthal is an "evenor" but the Neanderthal is said not to exist any more, and the only known contemporary population with the mixing gene are the Evenkis. (I'll find the link on this any minute now).
In the meantime, here is the Baka with the oldest human DNA haplotype.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aka_(Pygmy_tribe)
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Evenki language is Ural-Altaic, caming from the Altai mountain region (Turkic people's origin) and is associated with "reindeer people". http://lingsib.iea.ras.ru/en/languages/even.shtml
Now it is being .. "taught in a number of special training schools including Anadyr higher pedagogical training school .."
Note the Evenki's location right on the Berring straight. They were integral to the Mongolian based genome which crossed the straight and went to America - about 11,00BC, as soon as the ice cap had sufficiently melted, and became Red Indians.
Remember Mitochondrial Eve?
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 08:10 PM
More on the Baka:
Women practice beekeeping.
They live in huts they call mongulu.
Their religion is similar to Jainism.
"Baka religion is animist. They worship a forest spirit known as Jengi, also called Djengi or Ejengi, whom they perceive as both a parental figure and guardian. Each successful hunt is followed by a dance of thanksgiving known as the Luma .."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_(Cameroon_and_Gabon)
In recent years, they have also been flown all over the world to current hotspots for their musicality.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Okay, here is the Evenki genetic connection.
"AbstractA maximum parsimony tree of 21 complete mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequences belonging to haplogroup X and the survey of the haplogroup-associated polymorphisms in 13,589 mtDNAs from Eurasia and Africa revealed that haplogroup X is subdivided into two major branches, here defined as “X1” and “X2 ...
It is notable that X2 includes the two complete Native American X sequences that constitute the distinctive X2a clade, a clade that lacks close relatives in the entire Old World, including Siberia. The position of X2a in the phylogenetic tree suggests an early split from the other X2 clades, likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East.
Further northeast of the Altai area, haplogroup X sequences were detected in the Tungusic-speaking Evenks, of the Podkamennaya Tunguska basin (Central Siberia).
In contrast to the Altaians, the Evenks did not harbor any West Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups other than X. However, neither of the two Evenk X haplotypes showed mutations characteristic of the Native American clade X2a. Instead, one sequence was a member of X2b and the other of X2* (fig. 2).
Thus, one possible scenario is that several X haplotypes arrived in Siberia from western Asia during the Palaeolithic, but only X2a crossed Beringia and survived in modern Native Americans. Alternatively, the presence of two phylogenetically different haplogroup X mtDNA sequences in this particular subpopulation of Evenks might be due to recent gene flow ..
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http://mathildasanthropology/blog.wordpress/2009/01/26/origin-and-diffusion-of-mtdna-haplogroup-x/
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 08:36 PM
Finns are the original Caucasian - they are a genetic isolate. (Many of the languages spoken by the key interbreeding tribes also turn out to be language isolates or of confusing etmymology, as does Finn - because it is a Finno-Ugric language -it's joined. Guess who the Ugrics are? The Tartars.
Remember - this is a programme of inbreeding and outbreeding - of pure groups and mixed groups.
"Finns show very little of any Mediterranean and African genes" - and "more than 80% of Finnish genes are from single ancient North European populations."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_people
And what of the Samis? Who do you think they are? Baka perhaps? I do.
Or at least they were.
"Principal coordinate analysis shows that Lapps/Sami are almost exactly intermediate between people located geographically near the Ural mountains and speaking Uralic languages, and central and northern Europeans.."
and
"Haplogroup U5 is estimated to be the oldest mtDNA haplogroup in Europe and is found in the whole of Europe at a low frequency, but seems to be found in significantly higher levels among Finns, Estonians and the Sami."
For Estonians, read Schleswig- Holstein.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 08:49 PM
Okay, so red hair is all about melanin.
"In 1995 a landmark study demonstrated that over 80% of humans with red hair or fair skin have a dysfunctional variant of the Mc1r gene .. one of the key proteins in regulating hair and skin color."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanocortin_1_receptor
So redheads are unable to blend their genomes with any others without help, because the redhead is actually genetically deficient in some senses, yet evidently criticial in others.
Now this is as a result of the strange climate in Finland, which experiences long periods of night followed by long periods of daylight. The melatonin receptor is repressed by light and increased by the dark. We produce it at night time during sleep.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 09:52 PM
Me Tarzan - you, Jane.
Get it?
Right in our faces all along.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 10:13 PM
See the "core" in the Koran?
Very recently, I came across this site which confirmed what I had already deduced on my own from scratch.
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_11916.shtml
See the Apiru peoples? Read apiarists (beekeepers)
For Serindip people read Seres. They became Seri when they went to North America - also a key group there and on which I have lots of info - in fact on the whole Nth American tribal interbreeding programme.
They also inhabited Cerros in Belize, proximate to Chetumal, where there are redheaded Mnemonites (memory, get it?) and from where emanted a genuine Mayan Neanderthal I personally know in Tulum, which is where my own research started - after noticing an oddly named street called Osiris.
Tulum=Turkic luminary.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 10:22 PM
Btw, notice the Evenks are also the Lamuts? = ie. Luma from the Lamani of the Vedas - also corresponding with the Lamanai - in Mayan Belize.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanai
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 10:41 PM
The unexplainable.net guy is right when he suggests that King Arthur and the Camelot crew were involved - you bet they were.
Tintagel. Tinta is both Spanish and Italian for paint, also for red wine. Gel is what glues things together.
Merlin's cave and the alchemists? Right in there. Holy Grail? That is what this is called by some.
Cornwall was mined for tin as soon as it could be. Tin was critical to the bronze age culture, and control of the tin was paramount. Later, control of the coal became paramount, as coal is needed to smelt iron ore at high temperatures.
Corn was sacred to the Mayans, the Egyptians and others - a primary symbol of life- and known as elote in Spanish. Looks very similar to the eloie of HG Wells' Time Machine, right? Golden and ripe.
Edit: Pinta is actually the formal word for paint , but they use "tinta" in the same way as we use "tint".
Tin-ta-gel.
See it?
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 10:47 PM
Get this.
Captain "Cook" was born in the village of Marton in Yorkshire, today a suburb belonging to the town of Middlesbrough. You may not be able to read these place names properly yet. Middle = in between, right? And you can see the Tar in Marton, right?
Okay.
He was introduced to Quakers in the coal trade who ran a small fleet of ships, and -"His first assignment was aboard the collier Freelove, and he spent several years on this and various other coasters sailing between the Tyne and London.
lol.
hatshepsut
02-05-2009, 10:50 PM
Both the French and the British are all over the Pacific with this - also the Dutch.
I'll post on the Solomon and other islands eg.Tuvalu later.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 01:10 AM
Just a quick word on some language basics.
"l" is for luminary; joined with "i" becomes "il" - Italian for "the"; with "e" becomes Spanish and Arabic "el" for "the" (masculine) and with "a" becomes "al" for "gold" as in alchemy.
However "e" has another, very special status.
Have you realised by now that our English alphabet is pictographic based?
The letter "e" is a spiral. It signifies all sort of things -the galaxy , the snail (caracol), the distribution and coalesence of time, energy and matter, the circle of life itself.
There are more instances of the letter "e" in English than of any other.
"English" itself starts with it, then comes the N for Nordic.
"oe" is for old joined, "ae" is also for archaic joined
Wagners Ring. What do you think that was all about: The Ride of The Valykries - who were real warrior women- in fact they were the Amazons who lived in Pontus in the Caucauses' Black Sea - right next to the Georgians with whom they used to mate, and they produced the Greeks and Italians, as in Pontius Pilate - as in Pilates yoga which has made a recent appearance in popular culture.
Georgia is probably the most critical location of all - and why there is so much military pressure on it all the time. Georgia has all the resources you could possibly want in one place, and produces - by one account, the "most beautiful of men" and is probably where we get "gorgeous" from.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 01:17 AM
Spanish is also somewhat pictographic. Check out the word for "eye": ojo.
What does it look like? It looks like two eyes and a nose with a third eye on top.
Also need to mention caballero: horseman, gentleman (same word). See the cabal? Two ll's are pronounced Y in Spanish - the code is phonetic as well as graphic, as well as cryptic, as well as colour coded.
Caballeros were the horsemen - were the Tartars - were the cabal - were those who "flew" around, as they went thundering across the EuraAsian steppe.
altruist551
03-05-2009, 01:26 AM
Thanks for the post. This subject could be fascinating if the millions of people who are personally destroyed while these people go to the country club and laugh could do something to protect their lives. There must be a hole-in-the-dike somewhere.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 04:40 AM
Thanks for the post. This subject could be fascinating if the millions of people who are personally destroyed while these people go to the country club and laugh could do something to protect their lives. There must be a hole-in-the-dike somewhere.
Yes, thank you. I have debated with myself whether to tell it at all, because it is very dangerous to certain groups, such as women and other key ethnic peoples. Also, it puts me in personal danger: I have already received what I believe was an oblique warning from Scotland Yard - where I currently live in Mexico is a small but ancient/current hotspot, and certain people know that I know something.
Nevertheless I have decided to tell all - not only because of the monstrous injustices perpetrated in its name, but because what the human being needs most is a life of meaning and significance- to understand who we are, where we came from, what it's all about - and this has been denied to us.
Who the hell do these people think they are to rob anyone of that?
They have no such right, and that's for real.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 04:55 AM
The whole Caucuses thing has been going on forever, and was dubbed The Great Game in the 19th C. It's still beig "played" today.
Yes, Rudyard Kipling was right there. Look at his name - Kip - as in Kipchak.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:02 AM
Okay, I have a lot more to tell, specifically about the religious aspects.
But before I forget, did you know Evenor was the mother of Cleito who produced five sets of twins with Poseidon, founding the Atlantis fable Plato told? Atlantis was said to be constructed of internal islands made of red, black and white rock.
Shit, the internet place is closing in two minutes.
Later.
altruist551
03-05-2009, 12:44 PM
Please post more about this.
Also, the sun is a significant symbol for this crowd. Do you have information on the origins of the sun and its use as a symbol? And what it represents? In America, we currently have Sunthis and Sunthat Corporations. It's especially noticeable in the communications for university systems. At this time, almost every state university and the individual department websites within that university are "powered by Sun[xxxx]." It's too widespread to assume that it's random.
My father-in-law told me to "watch for patterns." He was a graduate from Virginia Military Institute, Harvard School of Business, and I think he was CIA. He died after a successful surgery under the home care of his wife. He was immediately cremated with no autopsy, and no questions answered. The commercial construction company that he and his partner founded had an estimated worth of over 600 million in 2004.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Please post more about this.
Also, the sun is a significant symbol for this crowd. Do you have information on the origins of the sun and its use as a symbol? And what it represents? In America, we currently have Sunthis and Sunthat Corporations. It's especially noticeable in the communications for university systems. At this time, almost every state university and the individual department websites within that university are "powered by Sun[xxxx]." It's too widespread to assume that it's random.
My father-in-law told me to "watch for patterns." He was a graduate from Virginia Military Institute, Harvard School of Business, and I think he was CIA. He died after a successful surgery under the home care of his wife. He was immediately cremated with no autopsy, and no questions answered. The commercial construction company that he and his partner founded had an estimated worth of over 600 million in 2004.
I don't have a whole lot of specifics on the sun - other than the sun and moon being primary symbols, informing many words and pictographs, the word son for instance, also the "san" prefix, sunni muslims etc, and the confluence of the sun and the circle of life.
Yes, it's all over the universities too. That's why they teach nothing but rubbish.
I was in communication with Victor Mair of Tarim mummies fame for a while, until I realized that the University of Pennsylvania is right in there, and my emails were probably being monitored.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:15 PM
"Van" is a lake in Turkey where they breed red and white cats who like water . (I had one years ago -that's how I know.) The word Van is increasingly visible where I am - as in Vanguard.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:34 PM
Okay, I want to say lots of things, but I'm constantly pressed for time and money (I have to work like a slave just to survive here, and any spare pesos are going into this) - so bear with me if I'm patchy.
The first letters of our alphabet were T and O.
T is the first cross (join), also obviously for Turk and Tartar, and has since been appropriated by everyone else too. O is is the ring, the circle, becoming Q when impregnated by a little worm at the bottom, and the combination of T and O becoming the ankh (the pronunciation of the Spanish and English word angel).
Okay, now the S also stands for joined, also for worm and snake, and is why the snake is seen to wind around the tree of life in Mayan and Egypytian ontological statements of the big picture. It also capitaliized many of the older Achaean empires; Scythia, Sogdiania, Selucid, Sumerian etc.
Now Scythia was when things really heated up. Scythia was also Bactria - another codeword . When you insert an "e" into Bactria, you get Bacteria, which is where the worm in the tequila bottle comes from - bacteria from the agave cactus, aka as the Maguey, aka as the Magu, aka as the Magi.
Scythia aslo means a knife which cuts (scythe) as in the Russian sickle.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:46 PM
Did you notice that the "little people" in one of the links I gave were located in Georgia? There's those damned dwarves agan. They sure get around, don't they - like a travelling circus. In fact, circuses have historically been associated with genetic anomalies, haven't they. Do you know who Circe was? She turned her enemies into pigs.
How odd that the current swine flu here in Mexcio is said not to connected to pigs in any way. Then why is it called that?
Because it's all just a three ringed circus?
altruist551
03-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Your point is well taken. Since 1995, many of my family and friends have died. The pressure to keep silent is real. The problem is that if we all keep silent, then this crowd continues to hurt massive numbers of people. Keep posting. I'm reading.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Okay, so there is much to tell about the religions, but bascially it boils down to the oldest religions (Jainism, Zoroastrianism) as closely connected to nature saying "everyone has the capacity to become their own God", and the Illuminiati saying "not any more".
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 05:58 PM
Your point is well taken. Since 1995, many of my family and friends have died. The pressure to keep silent is real. The problem is that if we all keep silent, then this crowd continues to hurt massive numbers of people. Keep posting. I'm reading.
Thanks. I am actually one of them in that I am a Cameron, a gifted person, and a product of the programme myself. But having kept all the resources only for select males, it was only a matter of time before someone like me came along, especially with the internet and current knowledge. Their number is up. I just have to stay alive to tell it. Thanks the support though. I need it.
stewart edwards
03-05-2009, 06:05 PM
Your point is well taken. Since 1995, many of my family and friends have died. The pressure to keep silent is real. The problem is that if we all keep silent, then this crowd continues to hurt massive numbers of people. Keep posting. I'm reading.Hello altruist.
Am I reading you correctly - you think that someone is killing your family of for speaking out? If so are they breaking any national secrecy laws etc? Why your family?
I had a quick skim of your posts here and noticed in one that you said that a relative announced that he was ready to die and he promptly did. There may not be anything untoward there, I am fairly certain that adepts (was he an adept?) can indeed choose when to die. In which case it wouldnt have been any murder but of his own choosing.
Clearly I dont know the full facts of your situation but I do know what it is like to be hounded and broken by people and I know how confusing and lonely it can be when you dont have a clue as to why it is happening.
If you are willing to share more of your story I am genuinely interested. I probably cant help you with this, but sometimes having someone to listen to you can help you come to terms with things.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 06:07 PM
I just want to say this, as I have been researching and writing about genetics and against the ultraDarwinists for years now - unable to understand how anyone could buy into random mutation and gentic drift as any sort of of explanation, let a alone a convincing one.
Here it is: When William Paley opposed Darwin so strenuously (and the whole genetic research project is marked by over reaction to anything suggesting inherent intelligence) he was doing so from a position of control of the programme. They knew we came from apes. They had always known this.
Look at Paley's name. It comes from Pali - the luminous mind.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Gotta fly (like aspera, lol)
Later.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Btw, its also relevant that in Mexico, people are called by both their mother's and father's surname, so anyone can see at a glance exactly what both your genetic lineages are, if they know how to read it.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Okay I'm going to attempt to post some maps and images.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=548522
Bugger.
Here it is. Frisian islands, Schlewig-Holstein, Denmark, Netherlands,
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=548522
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 10:15 PM
Here is an excellent map showing all the current hotposts in Western Asia/Persia, as marked by a star.
http://merln.ndu.edu/imgUploaded/southasiamap.jpg
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Here is a very strange image of Abel Tasman landing in NZ. Who are these people sailing out to meet him? They don't look like Maoris, they look Chinese.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=548526
Abel Tasman stopped at the island of Mauritius before sailing to NZ. Why? To pick up slaves.
hatshepsut
03-05-2009, 10:37 PM
I just came across this excellent page. Check it out.
http://www.taiwandna.com/
lightgiver
03-05-2009, 10:59 PM
They came from monkeys, as we all did. All the apes are involved, especially the rhesus, the chimpanzee, the gibbon, the baboon, the oranguatan, the gorilla and probably the sloth. It goes back to the cambrian explosion and the permian extinction, and since then, to various ice ages and warmer periods which alternately enabled geograhical expansion and then cut groups off. It really got going after the last ice age 11,000BC.
The original tribes controlling the breeding were the Tartar mongolians from Lake Bakai, (see the Baka in there?) the oldest lake in the world. Here the Baka pygmies and the Bantus from central Africa joined with the Evenki, to form the protoype Tartars. Later, they joined with the white caucasian (Finns) probably in Baku, which is accessible via Eritria and Somalia in Africa. Note the coicidence of names there. Eritrea sounds like "·retrieve" (the core genome) and Somalia denotes "Soma" the ancient drug of the Gods, frequently mentioned in the Rig Veda- and produced where? Afghanistan (capital: Kabul, read cabal) . This region is seminal because it is also proximate to India, which had already joined the African and Mongolan genomes by sea, to produce the Indians. When the caucasian genome was introduced to the mix, the Harappan cviilzation was created.
Back to Baku.(See the Baka and Bantu in there?) Check out the names of the bars in Baku.
The Clansman", The Caledonia, "Corner Bar", "Shakespeares", "Finnigans" the "Rig Bar", "O'Malley's" and the "Phoenix Bar.
Clansman (cabal), Caledonia (Scottish redheads) Corner bar (joined genomes) Shakespeare (shaking a spear, referring to bronze age cultures) Fiinnigans (Finns, the original caucasians) Rig Bar (Rig Veda, Indians) O'Malleys (Irish redheads, celts) Phoenix bar (rising from the ashes to produce another fire). "Fire" is a fundamental symbol, referring to both redheads and reproductive heat. It is connoted by the letters "ty" (T for tartar, y for 3-way joined genome) as in Scythia, Tyre, Tyne etc. Welsh is full of such lettering, and indeed the Welsh are right in there. Ever wonder why it's such a closed society and so many Welsh emigrated to Patagonia? Breeding programme.
Back to the rhesus - the rh negative blood group is a critical factor in all this, because the groups without it are known as "blue bloods" - their blood shows blue under certain lighting. This is the group which has apponted itself as European royalty throughout history - as superior and pure. But the irony is that without the rh factor, they are genetically defective, and their inbreeding has rendered most of them complete imbeciles.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31736
http://www.purgatory.net/kornelia/1603/red_hair_facts.htm
also,
There were the blue-bloods of Ancient Times which extended into European Times. . They actually did have blue blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based. They were semi-human. There are still to this day, some animal species in South America that have copper based blood systems. There was a problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying. The problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper based blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix. That's where the laws against marrying commoners originated.
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesamunre.html
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/david.html
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 03:17 AM
Thanks. I'll look at all that later. Interesting hypothesis though, because I've been thinking about the red hair and how it all got started and joined onto the blonde gene, and wondering if it was indeed a mutation produced when the first pure mongolian genome met the first pure caucasian genome (as it is produced when two recessive genes meet), but I'm reluctant to invoke a mutation unless absolutely necessary. Then I started wondering if it was possible to retain red dye - say from cochineal or beetroot in the reproductive system - Polish cochineal plays a part in this story in other ways, and beetroot is a super food, increasing oxygen uptake by 400% (think Beethoven - joven means "young" in Spanish) - and now you're suggesting copper.
I had previously concluded it came from the apes, specifically the rhesus, but the RH isn't in these blue bloods.
Thanks for the input.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 03:54 AM
Okay, so the Rig Veda presents the letters "rta" as representing natural harmony or "nature's way" - and is similar to the tao and the logos. So here are the original "tar" letters, which segued into "dharma" as a first principle. It is also "sat" - the truth principle in Hinduism.
Now the Tantra is of early Hindu-Vedic thought, and denotes the philosophy, ritual and action of life, whereby sex has three dimensions: procreation, pleasure and liberation. Within this, there existed a clan initiation rite involving the transaction of sexual fluids where the male was "inseminated or insanguinated" with female sexual emissions often admixed with those of the male guru, thus being transformed into a clan member - culminating in a "sublime experience of infinite awareness".
I believe this was the start of the Elusian mysteries, reincarnation, and the idea that life and death are as one- as they quite literally were for those who were killed after (or perhaps during) the mating. "One must rise by that by which one falls" is their maxim - "changing the outgoing current into the return current."
The circle of fecundity is known as the Cakra or "circle". Here's that sanskrit word "cak" - "to cook" again.
PS: "Elusian is also spelled "elysian" as in Elysian fields - as in the magus Elymas - as in the priestly caste of Zoroastrianism, as in oestrogen- as in "The Y".
PPS: These sexual rituals were also known as Maya which takes the jiva (hive?) back to the source or root of Reality.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 05:31 PM
Back to "san" for a moment. This actually means "red sun", as in "sangria" (Spanish for "blood") and "sandia" (watermelon) originating in Sangha - the "enlightened Buddhist community".
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 05:41 PM
A quick clue.
Red Sea: "we have reds here"
Black Sea: "we have blacks here"
Caspian: "we have whites here" - as in Casper the caucasian magu - as in casper the friendly ghost.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 05:45 PM
Understand? The whole thing is able to be read at a glance by anyone who knows, and not at all by someone who doesn't. This ensures historical valence for contemporary generations.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Clarifying these two joined letters a little further. "oe" is associated with oestrogen, and also appears to be related to the older northern(finnic) tribes, whereas "ae" appears to be both archaic and slighly more modern, and relates to faeries as angels, as does the word "anglo" - from "angles".
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Now the letter M is the number three on its side, right? M is an important letter for lots of reasons, especially in forming the prefix Mar. I think it originally signposted Mongolian Tartar, and from there it denoted the very important word "married" as in Mary, Mare, and Mari. See Mari in the Oxus Valley and various other strategic locations? It also has a similar function as Merv - now called Mary in Turkmenistan.
Check Merv out. All sorts of seminal things flowed from ancient Merv.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Marx and Engels were right there. Can you read their names yet?
X as we know, marks the spot, as does the very word "mark" (k for kipchak) as in Brittany's King Mark and Tristram and Isolde.
Can you read their names too?
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 08:27 PM
De stands for Deutsche (Dutch, German) with the "e".
D originally stood for Doric from the Greeks. Does this word remind you of door? It's meant to. As in the Mirador basin of Guatemala, employing the Spanish word "mira" meaning "look" - similar to "mirror" in English.
"Look at this door. Here you will find the Maya."
PS: Can you read Tuvalu yet?
Clue: "Va" is 3rd person Spanish for the verb "to go".
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Edinburgh has historical associations with Doric things. Look at all the bars called that.
Then look at the word Edinburgh itself. Eden, odin, aden -plus "burga" from Bulgaria on the Black Sea.
lightgiver
04-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks. I'll look at all that later. Interesting hypothesis though, because I've been thinking about the red hair and how it all got started and joined onto the blonde gene, and wondering if it was indeed a mutation produced when the first pure mongolian genome met the first pure caucasian genome (as it is produced when two recessive genes meet), but I'm reluctant to invoke a mutation unless absolutely necessary. Then I started wondering if it was possible to retain red dye - say from cochineal or beetroot in the reproductive system - Polish cochineal plays a part in this story in other ways, and beetroot is a super food, increasing oxygen uptake by 400% (think Beethoven - joven means "young" in Spanish) - and now you're suggesting copper.
I had previously concluded it came from the apes, specifically the rhesus, but the RH isn't in these blue bloods.
Thanks for the input.
http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm
The regal donor of the precious stuff was Prince Charles, 36, who has become the first member of the royal family ever to give blood, in his case, O Rh-negative.
http://the-red-thread.net/blood.html
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 08:50 PM
If you think you're about to lose your mind - don't, because it gets much worse. lol. Just hold onto your Phygrian hat.
The strongest argument I have had with myself about telling this, is that it is going to seriously fuck with people's sanity.
The counter argument is that they are already insane by not knowing it.
I went through a very intense emotional rollercoaster as I had blinding epiphany after epiphany, made even more excrutiating by being right inside this stuff where I currently reside.
I dealt with it by becoming part of it. Now I can laugh at/with it a little.
Just chill out. (chila, spanish for cool, codeword for the programme, as in chilangos from Mexico city)
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:02 PM
http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm
The regal donor of the precious stuff was Prince Charles, 36, who has become the first member of the royal family ever to give blood, in his case, O Rh-negative.
http://the-red-thread.net/blood.html
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
I'm still not exactly sure where the reptiles fit in with this, but they're certainly in there - with the iguana signifying the doorway to the netherworld, (underworld, underground caves where these peope have historically been kept - away from daylight to increase their melatonin levels).
I'm reminded of a very creepy story by Roald Dahl about a very creepy guy with pale blue eyes (definitely something cold and reptilian and inhuman about pale blue eyes, eg Nazis) who ended up as a snake in a circus - identifiable by the same cold blue eyes he had as a "human".
Thanks, I'll read that later.
Right now I want to talk a little more about melatonin.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:03 PM
pS: "Yuan" means human being in Chinese.
white horse
04-05-2009, 09:16 PM
The Illuminati are actually a group of peoples going back to the Tartars, who started breeding horses, and expanded to breeding people. They selected locations with natural harbours and peninsulars - and gold. They grew fruit orchards, and sheep and cattle for milk and meat. They had ultimate control of all resources, and still do. I have an enormous amount of research on this, if anyone is interested. It affects every civilization in every country in the world, at all points in history, with the Archeans at the bottom of it. It also implicates both the Spanish and English languages to an astounding extent.
The Tarim mummies were part of it.
Let me know if there is any interest, and I will post some more.
I would be very very interested yes please!
I have been studying history for 20+ years and am just realling from the shock revelation that all traditional history is a crock of shit!! Lol!:eek:
So yeah - now interested in the REAL history!
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:23 PM
I'm just reiterating what's on Wikipedia, to consider the main points.
Melatonin is critical to the circadian (grasshopper, right?) rhythms by which our essential biology functions. It is even found in algae and is related to mitochondrial DNA, which is found in women, and which was originally bacteria, as determined by Lynn Margulis. (Just gets worse right? lol)
In mammals, it is produced and regulated by the pineal gland, and is inhibited by light and encouraged by darkness.
Now - people with low melatonin levels are associated with autism spectrum disorders, found to be responsible for learning and memory malfunctions in mice. lol.
It is also associated with hibernation. Why is Ireland also known as Hibernia?
Gets back to the Finnish climate.
But I still don't know what the evolutionary point of producing people with learning disorders might be, or what possible genetic value these blondes and redheads could possibly have which offsets that.
This is the question.
lightgiver
04-05-2009, 09:25 PM
I'm still not exactly sure where the reptiles fit in with this, but they're certainly in there - with the iguana signifying the doorway to the netherworld, (underworld, underground caves where these peope have historically been kept - away from daylight to increase their melatonin levels).
I'm reminded of a very creepy story by Roald Dahl about a very creepy guy with pale blue eyes (definitely something cold and reptilian and inhuman about pale blue eyes, eg Nazis) who ended up as a snake in a circus - identifiable by the same cold blue eyes he had as a "human".
Thanks, I'll read that later.
Right now I want to talk a little more about melatonin.
Neither am I sure also where the reppies fit in.
In higher animals, including humans, melatonin is produced by pinealocytes in the pineal gland (located in the brain, but outside of the blood-brain barrier) and also by the retina, lens, GI tract and other tissues. The largest organ in humans to biosynthesize melatonin is the skin. All machinery for melatonin synthesis has been identified in skin cells and both melatonin and its biproduct, AFMK, have been found. Both of these molecules are naturally synthesized from the amino acid tryptophan (via synthesis of serotonin). Serotonin is converted to melatonin by the enzymes N-acetyltransferase and 5-hydroxyindole-O-methyltransferase.
Now that is interesting,Melatonin is produced in the pineal gland,and we all know there is a big one(pine cone) outside the Vatican.;)
The pineal gland (also called the pineal body, epiphysis cerebri, epiphysis or the "third eye") is a small endocrine gland in the vertebrate brain. It produces melatonin, a hormone that affects the modulation of wake/sleep patterns and photoperiodic (seasonal) functions. It is shaped like a tiny pine cone (hence its name), and is located near to the centre of the brain, between the two hemispheres, tucked in a groove where the two rounded thalamic bodies join. Unlike much of the rest of the brain, the pineal gland is not isolated from the body by the blood-brain barrier system
The pineal gland is a midline structure, and is often seen in plain skull X-rays, as it is often calcified. Calcification is typically due to intake of the fluoride found in water and toothpaste.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:33 PM
Btw, just as an aside, Ghengis Khan had hazel eyes, as I do too. Hazel eyes are the exact median point between the palest of blue and the darkest of brown. Where did brown eyes come from- obviously the monekys, but what made them brown in the first place? And are blue and green eyes really mutations, or do they carry traces of our organic origins within them -blue for the sea, green for the jungle? ( I saw a green sloth in Tulum once - frogs are also interesting and relevant.)
Furthermore, is the pineal gland, which crosses the brain/body barrier, also responsible for crossing the so called "Weissman" barrier into the gametes?
Hmm?
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:34 PM
I would be very very interested yes please!
I have been studying history for 20+ years and am just realling from the shock revelation that all traditional history is a crock of shit!! Lol!:eek:
So yeah - now interested in the REAL history!
Okay, good, just hold on tight! :)
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:38 PM
Neither am I sure also where the reppies fit in.
In higher animals, including humans, melatonin is produced by pinealocytes in the pineal gland (located in the brain, but outside of the blood-brain barrier) and also by the retina, lens, GI tract and other tissues. The largest organ in humans to biosynthesize melatonin is the skin. All machinery for melatonin synthesis has been identified in skin cells and both melatonin and its biproduct, AFMK, have been found. Both of these molecules are naturally synthesized from the amino acid tryptophan (via synthesis of serotonin). Serotonin is converted to melatonin by the enzymes N-acetyltransferase and 5-hydroxyindole-O-methyltransferase.
Now that is interesting,Melatonin is produced in the pineal gland,and we all know there is a big one(pine cone) outside the Vatican.;)
The pineal gland (also called the pineal body, epiphysis cerebri, epiphysis or the "third eye") is a small endocrine gland in the vertebrate brain. It produces melatonin, a hormone that affects the modulation of wake/sleep patterns and photoperiodic (seasonal) functions. It is shaped like a tiny pine cone (hence its name), and is located near to the centre of the brain, between the two hemispheres, tucked in a groove where the two rounded thalamic bodies join. Unlike much of the rest of the brain, the pineal gland is not isolated from the body by the blood-brain barrier system
The pineal gland is a midline structure, and is often seen in plain skull X-rays, as it is often calcified. Calcification is typically due to intake of the fluoride found in water and toothpaste.
Seretonin: There's that Seres word again.
watson_k
04-05-2009, 09:38 PM
PS: "Elusian is also spelled "elysian" as in Elysian fields - as in the magus Elymas - as in the priestly caste of Zoroastrianism, as in oestrogen- as in "The Y".
Not sure about the rest of it, But this one little thing is wrong.
The word Elymas means Wise in Arabic. It's also another name for 'Bar-Jesus', who is a Jewish Magician. The priests of Persia before the Mohammedans in 652 invaded were in fact the Magi 'Follower of Zoroaster'.
lightgiver
04-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Btw, just as an aside, Ghengis Khan had hazel eyes, as I do too. Hazel eyes are the exact median point between the palest of blue and the darkest of brown. Where did brown eyes come from- obviously the monekys, but what made them brown in the first place? And are blue and green eyes really mutations, or do they carry traces of our organic origins within them -blue for the sea, green for the jungle? ( I saw a green sloth in Tulum once - frogs are also interesting and relevant.)
Furthermore, is the pineal gland, which crosses the brain/body barrier, also responsible for crossing the so called "Weissman" barrier into the gametes?
Hmm?
I would have to do more research on that one;):D
Maybe you will like these lyrics
Gene regulation
"The first law of Segregation
States that any gamete male
Or female can carry the
Determinant gene of only one
Pair of alternative characteristics.
The second law of free assortment
States that in a cross involving
One pair of alternative characteristics,
The characteristics will segregate
In the second filial generation,
In the relative proportions of
9, 3, 3, 1"
Genetix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkeZ4CauPbc
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:46 PM
Okay, now red fruit plays a large part in this, particulary the pomegranate (check out the history of this) - but also strawberries (see the tra?) cherries, oranges (the red may have come from the orangutang, not the rhesus), and the Maguey cactus is grown with bright red citrus fruits beneath it (whatever they turn out to be). Tamarindo is also in there. And the apple of course is what Eve tempted Adam with.
Carrots and beetroot also contain very high levels of betacarotene, a critical antioxidant relating to the eyes.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:50 PM
Not sure about the rest of it, But this one little thing is wrong.
The word Elymas means Wise in Arabic. It's also another name for 'Bar-Jesus', who is a Jewish Magician. The priests of Persia before the Mohammedans in 652 invaded were in fact the Magi 'Follower of Zoroaster'.
Right. What I said. Thanks anyway. lol. :)
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:53 PM
I would have to do more research on that one;):D
Maybe you will like these lyrics
Gene regulation
"The first law of Segregation
States that any gamete male
Or female can carry the
Determinant gene of only one
Pair of alternative characteristics.
The second law of free assortment
States that in a cross involving
One pair of alternative characteristics,
The characteristics will segregate
In the second filial generation,
In the relative proportions of
9, 3, 3, 1"
Genetix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkeZ4CauPbc
Not sure about those numbers, but yes, skipping generations is what allows recessive genes to meet.
Remember: The red head is produced by two recessive genes.
lightgiver
04-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Okay, now red fruit plays a large part in this, particulary the pomegranate (check out the history of this) - but also strawberries (see the tra?) cherries, oranges (the red may have come from the orangutang, not the rhesus), and the Maguey cactus is grown with bright red citrus fruits beneath it (whatever they turn out to be). Tamarindo is also in there. And the apple of course is what Eve tempted Adam with.
Carrots and beetroot also contain very high levels of betacarotene, a critical antioxidant relating to the eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27E31wrlp4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2hLDmoFO8
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 09:58 PM
I also want to mention the Flaming Mountains in the Tarim basin, for no particular reason. lol :)
Pink coloured cliffs are also relevant to the programme. Baboons sleep at cliff faces. Baboons are also red.
hatshepsut
04-05-2009, 10:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27E31wrlp4w
Thanks, I'll watch that properly a little later. "Cold Turkey" heh. Think about that one. Words and expressions relating to both heat and cold are integral, representing life and death as flip sides of the same coin.
PS: Orangatuans are now said to be a lot smarter than chimps.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 02:51 AM
I would be very very interested yes please!
I have been studying history for 20+ years and am just realling from the shock revelation that all traditional history is a crock of shit!! Lol!:eek:
So yeah - now interested in the REAL history!
May I call you Palamino? Because white horses are right in there too- think Pali and Pegasus.
Okay, look for empire rollovers every 400 years, especially between 2000 BC and 2000 AD, since the bronze age.
It seems that 400 years is what it takes to reproduce a population from scratch from these core groups. Think Noahs Ark, because this is what that was. Where did it land? Ararat, Turkey.
Also, look at the history of the Uyghur empire. These were the Kypchaks, and I'm fairly sure this is the origin and meaning of the letter "U".
PS: You will note that nine tribes or bands are frequently referred to, and I'm pretty sure they are the origin of the nine bows the Egyptians referred to as their perpetual (consolidated) enemy.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 02:57 AM
"Sumeru (Sanskrit) or Sineru (Pāli) is the name of the central world-mountain in Buddhist cosmology. It is known to the Chinese as Kun Lun. Etymologically, the proper name of the mountain is Meru (Pāli Neru), to which is added the approbatory prefix su-, resulting in the meaning "excellent Meru" or "wonderful Meru". Read Merv.
"Sumeru is the polar center of a mandala-like complex of seas and mountains. The square base of Sumeru is surrounded by a square moat-like ocean, which is in turn surrounded by a ring (or rather square) wall of mountains, which is in turn surrounded by a sea, each diminishing in width and height from the one closer to Sumeru. There are seven seas and seven surrounding mountain-walls, until one comes to the vast outer sea which forms most of the surface of the world, in which the known continents are merely small islands. The known world, which is located on the continent of Jambudvīpa, is directly south of Sumeru."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumeru
Compare this to Plato's description of Atlantis. Pretty much identical.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 03:09 AM
There seems to be a link between iguanas and Janus.
As well as being pretty much the God of Everything, Janus was also the god of the "home entrance" - the ianua.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 03:26 AM
Okay, so looking at Cro Magnons, we find that they are thought to have superceded the Neanderthals about 38,000 BC. They have a modern skeletal form (gracile) and hunted reindeer. (The reindeer /fur people are seminal here, relating to the Evenki and also to .. can you guess? Right. Santa Claus from the North pole, bearing gifts).
And indeed, it turns out that Finns are the closest to Cro Magnons "in terms of anthropological measurements" - genetically different, in that they their mtDNA has been identified as belonging to haplogroup N, which is found in the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia and North America.
So this is the joined, modern human genome -presumably the Finns who are not a genetic isolate, but who were now the Caucasians.
I believe this is the true meaning of the Mayan calendar Long Count, and what it is counting - the joining of the three genomes in modern form - 40,000 years ago in 2012.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 03:37 AM
Just looking at the "scientific" language for a moment.
Seretonin? Seres, serenity, pleasure.
Melatonin? What does this prefix look like? Melt, right? Which is exactly what it does. Also seen in Melanesians, who are quite genetically different from Polynesians.
And the word mutation itself. Look at the prefix. MUT - Egyptian sky goddess, right? Add an e and you have mute.
Are these people fucking with us?
You bet they are.
It just gets worse.
lol.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 04:44 AM
Why aren't more animals green, if its all about adaptation to the environment?
As mentioned, I saw a green sloth in Tulum - at daybreak one morning, walking along a path between the jungle and the beach, close enough to see its face. And you know what it looked like? It looked like a Slav. It was tall and gracile, pretty much upright, with a long narrow face and neanderthal brow, and apart from the shaggy green coat, it looked like a freaking human. (I would have got a shot if my bloody camera hadn't been stolen). But the other truly weird thing is that when I googled sloths, the monkeys which came up looked absolutely nothing like what I saw - couldn't be more different.
What the hell was a green sloth doing in Tulum anyway?
And why does the word Slav look like Slave?
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 04:54 AM
Okay, so talking about the word "san" I was reminded of an Australian band called Cold Chisel and their song Khe Sanh, and then another song Star Hotel and then another - Flame Trees, and another, Bow River and another - Rising Sun. And their name - Cold Chisel, something which sculpts right? Remember what I said about cutting and cold? They were orginally named Orange. One of their albums was called Circus Animals.
Jesus.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 05:02 AM
I haven't yet listed all the inclusions I know about this "Arts programme" but I will say this right now:
Is there anything ever published which hasn't been about this thing?
Wtf are these people doing? Circle jerking each other about the programme and how clever they are, and if you're not writing about it, you don't get produced?
Sure looks that way.
asentinel
05-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Just in a hurry, but am reading your stuff when I can get time, using my intuition. Will just throw in a thing here of there for you to comment on, the Catalan (spelling?) people from the Pyranees? The hill tribes from Papua New Guinea, quite often have red hair, as that gene for dark hair seems to be quite weak. Have heard that original peoples from the Canary Islands had reddish or blonde hair.
I find it suspicious that your laptop was stolen, but hey could be in conspiracy overdrive!! Cheers.
edit+++ I think I meant Basque people of the Pyranees, sorry+++
kalabaster
05-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Georgia is probably the most critical location of all - and why there is so much military pressure on it all the time. Georgia has all the resources you could possibly want in one place, and produces - by one account, the "most beautiful of men" and is probably where we get "gorgeous" from.
1-Linking it semantically to Greek and Latin roots (Greek: γεωργία, transliterated geōrgía, "agriculture", γεωργός, geōrgós, "tiller of the land", and γεωργικός, geōrgikós, Latin: georgicus, "agricultural").[16]
2-The country took its name from that of Saint George, itself a derivative of the aforementioned Greek root. Or, at the very least, the popularity of the cult of Saint George in Georgia influenced the spread of the term.
3-Under various Persian empires (536 BC-AD 638), Georgians were called Gurjhān (Gurzhan/Gurjan), or "Gurj/Gurzh people." The early Islamic/Arabic sources spelled the name Kurz/Gurz and the country Gurjistan (see Baladhuri, Tabari, Jayhani, Istakhri, Ibn Hawqal, etc.). The contemporary Russian name for the country, "Gruziya," is similar. This also could evolve or at least contribute to the later name of Georgia.[17] The Russian name was brought into contemporary Hebrew as גרוזיה ("Gruziya"), and only recently changed in official Israeli usage to גיאורגיה ("Gheorghia" with two hard g's).
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 07:55 PM
Just in a hurry, but am reading your stuff when I can get time, using my intuition. Will just throw in a thing here of there for you to comment on, the Catalan (spelling?) people from the Pyranees? The hill tribes from Papua New Guinea, quite often have red hair, as that gene for dark hair seems to be quite weak. Have heard that original peoples from the Canary Islands had reddish or blonde hair.
I find it suspicious that your laptop was stolen, but hey could be in conspiracy overdrive!! Cheers.
All that is absolutely correct. All of these people are involved - they burned manifold Basque "witches" , and the Pyrenees are an historical hotspot - as in funeral "pyre".
The Canary islands are synonymous with the canary current which flows between North Africa and the Gulf of Mexico, and is what brought them from the old world to the new world, depositing them naturally at La Venta (the window) where they became the "Olmecs" (Old Mecca, at a guess).
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 08:03 PM
1-Linking it semantically to Greek and Latin roots (Greek: γεωργία, transliterated geōrgía, "agriculture", γεωργός, geōrgós, "tiller of the land", and γεωργικός, geōrgikós, Latin: georgicus, "agricultural").[16]
2-The country took its name from that of Saint George, itself a derivative of the aforementioned Greek root. Or, at the very least, the popularity of the cult of Saint George in Georgia influenced the spread of the term.
3-Under various Persian empires (536 BC-AD 638), Georgians were called Gurjhān (Gurzhan/Gurjan), or "Gurj/Gurzh people." The early Islamic/Arabic sources spelled the name Kurz/Gurz and the country Gurjistan (see Baladhuri, Tabari, Jayhani, Istakhri, Ibn Hawqal, etc.). The contemporary Russian name for the country, "Gruziya," is similar. This also could evolve or at least contribute to the later name of Georgia.[17] The Russian name was brought into contemporary Hebrew as גרוזיה ("Gruziya"), and only recently changed in official Israeli usage to גיאורגיה ("Gheorghia" with two hard g's).
Think Geo - geology, geography, and how fundamental they are. We know about the o and the e - the G I'm still working on.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 08:05 PM
PS: The word "Australia" is pronounced exactly like the Spanish word for star - estrellla.
Think Sydney and Melboure (melt-burn, right?)
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 08:25 PM
Okay, I don't have a lot of time today myself, but I want to talk about some North American Indian tribes you can google further for yourselves.
The North Mexican Sonora and Southern Californian Sonoma regions are connected by many different tribes (think Kali and fornication) one of whom is the Seri, who speak a language isolate and live on Tiburon island (tiburon is Spanish for shark, another symbolic creature) opposite Isla Angel de la Guard. (Guardian Angel) The Seris are part of the larger Opata mixed group, which also includes the Yaqui (aqui is spanish for "here" - you can read that now, right?)
Now the Yaqui call themselves Yeomen - that is, the protectors of the Sovereign. Their cosmology is comprised of four separate worlds: the animal world, the world of people, the world of flowers, and the world of death.
They divide people into two classes: Yoeme (those with magic in their hearts) and Yori (those with confusion and fear in their hearts).
They historically cohabitated with Jesuits. Their flag bears the sun, the moon and the cross.
They also describe themselves as Haiki Nation or Pascua Hiaki, meaning Easter people.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 08:35 PM
This is another Californian tribe who have been there for more than 2000 years, and are of mixed ethnicity, comprised of black, Anglo/Irish caucasian and Hispanic blood. They also interact with Chinese and Filipino farm workers.
Their creation story is about the death of the God Mukat, and focuses on death, the need for social roles, and the proper use of supernatural powers.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 08:46 PM
A group of Northern Californian indians who had secret male societies, private dances and sexual rituals, particularly the Pomo. These were related to the Elyisian mysteries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuksu_(religion)
They are connected to the Esselens.
**Essen is German for "to eat", it is also the center of the Ruhr (colloquially known as the Ruhr pott), and is a previous and current hotspot, with coal, steel and heavy industry. Bombed heavily in WW11.
hatshepsut
05-05-2009, 11:56 PM
Okay, now Seri - despite being a language isolate, has been suugested as being related to Chontal, which has itself been suggested as an elite Mayan language.
Right. I strongly suspect that the Seri language is actually Tocharian (of Bactria and the Tairm Basin) and so is Chontal - a form of Choltan (Ch'ol), the language used to inscribe the Palenque Mayan glyphs - under the auspicious of Pakal and his mother, La Reina Roja (The Red Queen), also known as Lady Toc.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 12:04 AM
Furthermore, there can be no doubt that the Mayans were the Kypchak Uyghur tribes. Why did the Maya suddenly disappear from almost all their far flung centers in 840 AD - at once? Because they returned to their homeland to become the Orkhon Uyghur - the Idiqut (840-1209 A.D) and went on to fight both for and against Ghenghis Khan 400 years later. They were part of the Golden Hordes.
Note the introduction of the prefix "Ork" as in the Orkney Islands off Scotland and phonetically as in Auckland
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 12:17 AM
Why is the Mayan language Tzeltal pronounced Cental? (As in centaur)
Why are they both full of "chock, bok, tok" sounding words? (I've been listening to them for the last 10 months)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzotzil
And why are there nine Mayan languages spoken in Chiapas?
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 04:17 AM
One of the most mysterious yet consistent aspects of Mayan culture was the ubiquitous presence of ball courts and the playing of intense ball games, after which the winners were killed. Right -the winners. This is very confusing to Mayan scholars. It seems perverse. But not if you realise that before they were killed, they got to have sex in these religious mating orgies. I'm fairly sure this is still going on today, accompanied by hallucinogenic mushrooms (hongos) and peyote, just as it was traditionally accompanied by soma in the old world. There is a small town very close to where I am called Chila with a ball court and which I suspect many people went to over Easter (they all disappeared on Easter Sunday for three days) I overheard a young guy trying to persuade a young girl to go to Chila and have some hongos with him. It was also mentioned on the local radio station.
I also saw them burying an Omphalos in the ground two weeks before Easter - right before my eyes. No camera. Bugger.
Also close to here is a black community, and another community a little further on comprised of blonde people who grow maguey cactus and fruit orchards.
Getting the drift?
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 04:29 AM
The restaurant they buried the Omphalos outside has "Rose" in its name (I haven't even started on this Rose thing yet) and the people who own it are as mixed as possible, but fundamentally kypchak (from the closed township of Chamula in Chiapas) with pronounced Indian influences too, including a Janus-like doll with its head and feet on backwards they had hanging on the line.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 04:31 AM
We also have full blooded Dravidian women here, who you never see on the street, and I'm pretty sure they're involved too.
asentinel
06-05-2009, 08:37 AM
used to slightly sanitise wholesale murder rituals. What about the Yugoslavian situation where Nato troops were sent in and so many war criminals escaped to new places taking on new identities and in cases continuing the activities of revenge and vendettas, in a covert manner in adopted countries.
The silk road, eg in countries such as Uzbekistan, mixing of races. Places such as Barbados, West Indies come to mind, many colonial influences such as French, English, Dutch, Portugese. That creole mix with local indigenous peoples. The influence of missionaries seems to be as destructive as full on military occupancy. (eg. the stance for abstinance as a solution to spread of aids, or actively discouraging use of condoms, peversely promoted as "spreading aids", to the naieve under educated populations) You mentioned the Philippines. Hawaii has been resettled. The Australian aboriginal remote communities have a military/police presence as we speak. They are now discouraged from moving around to cultivate/harvest wild sources of food. Knowledge about healing plants and herbs, traditional ways of hunting and eating, all being lost rapidly.
The Icelandic people enjoyed a simple life in remote and harsh conditions until they were seduced into 1990's affluence, now they are in for a difficult time.
Another strange idea, some women have experienced pregnancies, still in the early stages, have just disappeared, not even evidence of miscarriage, just as if they never existed. I wonder how many have been too embarrassed to tell anyone. Have you heard of this?
I have another idea, why is the Catholic mass still given in Latin, when most of the attendees no longer know or are taught this language. Except I guess the native Italian speakers.
asentinel
06-05-2009, 12:04 PM
Have read your stuff and just coming up with various random connections and comments. I also have hazel eyes, father had pale blue, mother dark brown, have irish, english, prussian, indian (eastern), and possibly scottish. Sister with scottish ancestry husband, has two children with creamy skin, no freckles, clear blue eyes, flamed ringlet hair, pixie faces.
Interesting huh.
About reality, have no attachment to any conventional acceptable "old truths", have completely open gateway of possibility. Have always known there were massive lies about. "Alice through the looking glass" feeling about it all. I can filter information for patterns, then apply intuition for importance or synchronicity. It's like having the answer first and then working backwards to get the question last. Also applies to know where to look to connect with others.
You are right, people need to know the reason for all the suffering and pointless carnage and dislocation. I don't think anyone can heal anything or be at peace and move on until they have in their minds some logical explanation for tragedy.
The Illuminati have strong connection with KKK, could that really be XXX, for the genomes. It even looks like a spiral sideways. Or three strands side by side??
Did you know that George Bush in his second inauguration speech said some weird thing and it was reported and was out for all to see but not many seemed to pick up on it. Our orders come "from beyond the stars". Don't you find that weird, or not.
The bees, was that not a symbol of french nobility. (Wasn't there a tacky 50's science fiction movie called "return of the bee people"?) Also the Fleur de lys, with it's three petals relates to french nobility?
Easter people = Star people?
The Nine, are nine principles, or entities? Gene Rodenberry originator of Star Treck had something to do with a group chanelling "the Nine".
Was there a study of genes of NZ Maoris found to be a comb of males from Taiwan and females from Papua New Guinea that they picked up on the voyage to the islands.
Be safe and keep posting hope that you receive help you need. Be careful of offers of help however, which sounds totally counter-something, you know what I mean. Ditto that other person posting personal info.
Someone I know was going to work on his bike and was run down by a car. Later was living in a squat house and had all his camera equipt and photos disappear.
Be careful who you befriend. Keep your own counsel, as they say.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:06 PM
You're right onto it, as usual - can't slow down discuss too much right now - I need to keep pressing on with my stuff. I need to get it out there as best I can as quickly as I can.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:11 PM
Hongos (magic mushrooms) are a particular word relating to Hungarians
From Wiki: "It is believed that the origin of the name "Hungary" does not come from the Central Asian nomadic invaders called the Huns, but rather originated from 7th century, when Magyar tribes were part of a Bulgar alliance called On-Ogour, which in Bulgar Turkic meant "(the) Ten Arrows."
Right, who were in fact the kypchaks, an earlier name for Hun. The ten arrows and ten tribes thing you now start to see emerge is related to nine plus one - the OM or ON, yielding rhe prefix "Hon" as in Honalulu and Honduras.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:15 PM
PS: Noah's Ark is really spelled with a C, yiedling the prefx "arc" for Archaen.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:24 PM
Now the reason the Dravidian women are here and connected with a business with Harrapan in its name is that the Dravidians gave rise to the Harrapan civilization.
There are not just three races - there was a product and that product was the Indians, which is why there became Four Kings in certain mythologies.
The Dravidians are a product of African and Mongolian joining. They could reach Africa by sea directly without any overland interference, and this was the very first joining of those two genomes, imo - which is why India was so deeply involved in everything right from the getgo via the Incense route.
In Varanassi (I think) and other centers along the Silk road, they produced the three way join with the Caucasian.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:40 PM
Okay, so the reason I know about the current hotspots is that my work puts me in contact with tourists from all over the world, and in talking to them, I gradually came to realise that they all come from particular places with things in common, and that there was a pattern in place. (Most people are unknowing).
Places like Switzerland (read Switch erland), Quebec, Estonia, Oregon, Chile, Scotland, Ireland, Germany (Read German, germane), Scandinavia - Denmark, Sweden, Finand and especially Norway. (There is a Norwegian school here). Golden hordes of beautiful, blonde Scandinavian girls, many of whom are tall, and strongly reminsicent of the Valykries.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Okay, so just back to Easter here for a moment. I said that everyone disappeared on Easter Sunday, and by "everyone" I meant not just the locals, but also the hundred or so young people who suddenly arrived from Mexico city (university students) who all looked almost exactly the same.. Not identical, but very similar. And there were indeed about a hundred of them, and they all just vanished on Easter Sunday.
Now this 100 number is interesting, because the name of te town where there are all these blondes growing the maguey is Cienego "cien" being Spansh for 100 and take a look at ego, the Engilsh word for self.
What does that tell you? There is also a business named that here. In fact all the businesses here bear names relating to the programme.
hatshepsut
06-05-2009, 07:57 PM
Just to clarify Chilangos a little further.
This word is used to refer to a certain segment of the population of Mexico City who are mobile, young(ish), usually with no visible means of support, and who act like they're in some sort of private club, with their own shibboleth such as words like "weh", pronounced way. One of the places they use as an informal meeting spot here (a group of shops selling jewellery and creative personal effects) has a sign openly saying "cabal" to one side, and one of these guys told me that the Aztec language has lots of German words in it.
michael christopher
06-05-2009, 09:14 PM
This post is excellent, I love all of the information - what new perspectives you have presented.
I do have a question, it was slightly brought up earlier but not really elaborated on - what do you think homosexuality has to do with all of this? I believe all traits are actually genetic in the end, including homosexuality, but is this a defective trait that is emerging naturally or was it implanted at some point a very long time ago?
I am very interested as a gay person with royal blood - I feel like my being a homosexual has some enormous bearing on my presence on this planet, as though I am supposed to figure something out about it aside from the obvious conclusions (those being that there is nothing morally wrong with it).
asentinel
07-05-2009, 08:56 AM
This post is excellent, I love all of the information - what new perspectives you have presented.
I do have a question, it was slightly brought up earlier but not really elaborated on - what do you think homosexuality has to do with all of this? I believe all traits are actually genetic in the end, including homosexuality, but is this a defective trait that is emerging naturally or was it implanted at some point a very long time ago?
I am very interested as a gay person with royal blood - I feel like my being a homosexual has some enormous bearing on my presence on this planet, as though I am supposed to figure something out about it aside from the obvious conclusions (those being that there is nothing morally wrong with it).
The genes are a switching system and information carrier. Your soul is the chooser of vehicle and maybe it chose the vehicle to be what you have. Try to find a bbc production called "brain sex", and the book by the same name. It explains that sexuality difference is developed from all embrios being female to start with and there are windows in the gestation period where hormone levels produce the necessary changes in characteristics. If there are stresses in the mother, these levels may be altered to some degree and then these changes are interferred with. Maybe these can be also interferred with deliberately. Three aspects are, who you are physically attracted to, your mannerisms, your body form. You could have variations on these to produce very different outcomes. There may be other more subtle traits that have been discovered since the series was made, I am sure it was just the beginning for this topic.
Do you see the genes are just the computer programming, and the mystery is who is the designer of the programme.
There must a good reason for having these variations. I have heard a theory that perhaps we were all androdgynous before someone started meddling with the genes.
I would like to know the origin of "morals" and why is it so different from what is in our hearts.
I suspect you will find that somewhere down the line, it aligns with control of people, and exploitation.
Let's get to the bottom of it! No pun intended!
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:07 PM
I'll come back to you guys a little later, but I'll quickly say that the Latin Mass point is a very good one. Perhaps someone could post an English translation, so we can see what they're actually saying.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:10 PM
Chiapas was known to the ancient Mayans as "the bellybutton of the world".
That is, the umbilical cord.
um (ugyhur mongolian) - bi (both) -li (italian luminary) - cal (caledonian)
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:17 PM
Now the Poles were right there from the getgo, too. Met any Poles lately? I have. Bright, creative people - all there. This is why Germany has been so historically obsessed with either possessing or wiping it out. Think Warsaw ghetto - yes the Jews are of course right in there, red hair is the Mark of Cain - think Ruth.
pS: The Canaanites -who mysteriously vanished c 1200 BC along with the Hittites (and others) joined forces with the Sea People and became the Phoenecians.
ppS: 1200 BC saw a major exodus from the old world. This is when the Olmecs date from. Lots of factors played into this, but the critical moment seems to have been when they lost control of Amor.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:25 PM
Okay, back to frogs for a moment -and their wormy, spermy tadpoles (ta -d -poles).
Frogs of course are amphibious and green.
In Aristophanes' play The Frogs, they sang the "croaking chorus " (about the programme) - which is referred to in the Pirates of Penzance by Gilbert and Sullivan.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Okay, back to Mexico for a moment.
Massive breeding programme going on here. The (Rose) kypchak "family" I spoke of before has no older adult males in sight, yet the queen bee keeps popping out babies, she just popped another one the other day - with no visible father. Also includes some younger couples also popping them out - as is everyone here.
Yet I noticed quite some time ago, that while there are masses of two and three years olds, there are very few older children present. The age group from 5 - 15 seems almost entirely missing.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:51 PM
Okay, so the Chinese and Japanese are at it too. Lots of red haired Japanese now visible. China has been at it with various dynasties - especially the Manchu. Also the Tang, Song, Han and Shang - where they Shanghaid people.
The Japanese were so interested in the Tarim mummies, they paid $100,000 for a couple. I think they are trying to clone them.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Now the words Hai and Bai become relevant.
More on this later.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 08:02 PM
But first - the other notable civilization which "disappeared" in 1200 bc was the Mycean, who were the Archeans related to the Minoans, the Cretans, the Cypriots, Tyre, Carthage. If you look at the (later) Archaen empire, it controls all the hot territory of the Greco-Italian era.
The black raven seems to have appeared with the Myceneans. Thiis became a primary modern symbol - as retierated in black birds, codeword for piracy and slavery - openly known in the Pacific as blackbirding.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 09:34 PM
Okay, so the Myceans also became the Etruscans - e (infinite spiral) -t (cross) -rus (rose, red) - can (canaanite) - both cultures had very advanced art styles.
Between 1200 and 800, BC they produced the new wave of artists and peoples who would populate Italy, Carthage and Greece.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Now the Semites are very much a part of the modern archaic core - going back at least to Jericho and the Negev desert (9000 BC) - especially Syria and Assyria (A for Archean -Scythia) - and Solomon & Solon.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 09:50 PM
Okay, so I want to talk about this period - from 2000 BC when the satyrs and centaurs first appeared at the edges of certain civilizatons and the bronze age got under way - especially the synthetic AndroNova (new man) culture of the Indo Iranians associated with the Tarim basin and the Urals and Oxus regions.
"Towards the middle of the 2nd millennium, the Andronovo cultures begin to move intensively eastwards. They mined deposits of copper ore in the Altai Mountains.." right and they got tin from the Caucuses and Cornwell and produced the chariot era - probably in the caucuses.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Now, the eruption of Thera c 1600BC seemd to come right on time (lol), because it was from here that the whole thing got shaken right up (eg. Minoans disappeared, Myceaneans appeared) and even more vitally, the volcanic eruption produced some natural instances of iron - and we now see a few iron swords appear (said to be meteoric iron); Tutenkhamun had one.
But more realistically than coincidental meteorites, it seems to me that you couldn't know that iron ore smelted at very high temperatures will produce iron unless you had seen it first, right? Right. So they saw what had happened with Thera - and in the Caucuses, they used its coal and iron ore to start the iron age - and iron then became the cutting edge of the grail. (Think Lancelot's sword - and cutting).
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 10:05 PM
Okay, so archaic features are retained wherever the Archaens are present.
The word "grail" comes from the Gravatine cultural period. Corded ware culture is also in there (corta is Spanish for "cut") - and catacomb culture as in "cut - a honeycomb", right?
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 10:14 PM
was an "ancient Buddhist kingdom located on the branch of the Silk Road that ran along the northern edge of the Taklamakan Desert in the Tarim Basin" where they spoke Tocharian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kucha
The Spanish word for "knife" is "cuchilla" - pronounced kuchea.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 10:24 PM
"The site of Chiapa de Corzo .. has been occupied since 1500 BC, ... It featured three massive structures of which the tallest rose to 31 metres. .... inscribed with a long count calendar date equivalent to 32 BC in our calendar. ...""
http://berclo.net/page01/01en-hist-maya.html
Right. Except it's not 32 BC. It was orginally pronounced to be 31 BC and then revised to 32. But it turns out that that the date cannot be read completely and so there is confusion. Imo, they got it right the first time, because 31 BC is when Cleopatra fell, and the (later) Egyptian influence can be readily seen, especially in the Bonampak murals.
The archaeological digs at Chiapa de Corso are currently under control of the Mormons.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 10:28 PM
A very quick word on this parent clade of N and M haplogroups. Said to be strictly African. I wonder if this is the prottoypical joinng of the Baka and Bantu genomes. Probably. I can't see how it can be anything else.
hatshepsut
07-05-2009, 10:28 PM
N for for Nordic, M for Mongolian, right?
lol
Later.
lightgiver
07-05-2009, 10:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfBitBUJIw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXAGoPq_Kgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG-Iss6nILY
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula1chap.shtml
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:32 AM
Very good, thank you. :)
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:40 AM
but want to talk about iron some more. I think after the battle of Kadesh between Rameses 11 and the Hittites, with so much carnage and so little gain on either side, the pressure for a winning weapon intensified.
It is said iron came from Anatolia, but it actually came from the Caucuses through Anatolia. Whoever controlled that plateau, controlled the routes between everything - land and sea - hence the enduring Tartars. They lost it at Ugarit however. That whole region was devasted by 1200 BC. Between 1300 and 1200, there was a massive shift in populations from literally all over.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:43 AM
hehe, I was thinking about how that iuana word was just sitting there waiting for a "g" to form iguana , when - of course - it's G for the Ghandavas! I'm so glad. :) I've been wanting to introduce them, and there they are! Heh. I'll come back to them later ...
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:48 AM
Okay, so they bred the Italians in two parts - the Etruscans in the north -and south from Carthage (African genomic supplied at Nok - and cooked them in Syracuse.
Romulus and Remus founded Rome.
Ro (royal) Mu (sky goddess) lus (luminary - now we see luc, luce, lux and lus words emerge)
Re (regal, red) Muse(e)
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:50 AM
Okay so Carthage was founded by Alyssa from Tyre. whose brother Pygmalion killed her Archean Scythian husband - and so she founded Carthage and became known as Dido to the Greeks.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:54 AM
While she was still in Tyre, she put Polish cochineal together with a royal blue dye produced by squeezing the flesh of a certain shellfish (which is then returned to the sea unharmed), to create the colour Tyrean purple which was worth 14 times the price of gold.
This same shellfish is found in Oaxaca, Mexico (as well as in the canary islands) - as is cochineal, which was a thriving (slave) industry for the Spaniards.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 04:58 AM
The other primary colour is saffron, as supplied by the Indians.
They had red, blue, yellow and purple at that point. The royal pallete.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 06:58 PM
Of course the Scythians had been painting and weaving clothes with real gold for years. Gold was the thing, and the Myceans produced beautiful gold masks, presumably for use in the mating rituals at Knossos.
Here I am reminded of a Nicole Kidman film I didn't see, but was all about ritualistic mating behind gold masks, right?
Looking at her more closely, has Nicole Kidman ever done anything which wasn't about this?
She and Tom(b) Cruise (go) are Scientologists - the ultimate level of which, is "clear".
Lets have a look at L. Ron Hubbard.
L -(Luminary) Ron (Spanish for Rome) Hub (center) bard (of Scotland, formerly known as Scytland)
Ken Russell
Ken (Scottish woird for knowing,understanding) Rus (rose) sel ("se" is first person Spanish, meaning "I know") L (luminary)
Nicole Kidman took her second honeymoon on Bora Bora, a current Pacific hotspot.
How about Moulin Rouge and Toulouse Lautrec?
Dwarf alert!
lol
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:02 PM
Phillip (of Macedonia) + pěnes.
Imelda Marcos
Corozan (Spanish for heart) Aqui -no
Also reminded of Nelson and Winnie Mandela, who fell out after Winnie was associated with some violence involving burning tyres.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:03 PM
Thinking about the Minoans, the word "winnow" occured to me, and now I suspect that the letter W is actually an upside down M.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Okay, this is the correct spelling in order to conserve the harrapan connection, but it can also (and should be) read davas or devas). The word iauna is also not quite iguana, but close enough, and also relates to iani, which when added to D, becomes dia (or day) and also Diana, I believe.
Gand-alf /elf -from LOTR, Gandhi of course, and also Ghana, which is also involved in this.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:19 PM
Okay, so you may have noticed that this word has two suffixes - on and um, presumably depending on which strain is being described - the nordic or mongolian.
In Cambodia, we had the Khymer Rouge and Pol Pot (people pot), while in Vietnam are the Khmer Krom.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:33 PM
From Wiki: "In Hinduism, the Gandharvas (Sanskrit: gandharva) are male nature spirits, husbands of the Apsaras. Some are part animal, usually a bird or horse. They have superb musical skills. They guarded the Soma and made beautiful music for the gods in their palaces. A connection between their name and that of the Greek centaurs was proposed in the 19th century, but has met with strong opposition from some Indo-Europeanists.
In Hindu theology, Gandharvas act as messengers between the gods and humans. In Hindu law, a Gandharva marriage is one contracted by mutual consent and without formal rituals.
Gandharvas are mentioned extensively in the epic Mahabharata as associated with the Devas (as dancers and singers) and with the Yakshas, as formidable warriors. They are mentioned as spread across various territories."
One of which is China, where they became the Flying Asparas.
".. the symbol of Dunhuang art, are scattered in all the 500 grottoes of Dunhuang area. They are an embodiment of Gandharva, the God in charge of holy songs and dances..."
"Espera" is Spanish for hope or wish, with the English cognate "aspiration".
Now these "flying asperas" became kites in popular culture. I saw some flown here over Easter, and was told their name (in Spanish) is papa elote (Father Corn). They were depicting birds, and their connection with iguanas as ancient sentinels is, I think, to do with reptiles and birds as evolutionarily connected.
Stephen Jay Gould reported small reptilian teeth in bird's beaks - and in fact one of their symbols is the jay bird. Others include the raven, eagle, ibis, white doves, turtle doves, hens and roosters and lovebirds and the stork.
hatshepsut
08-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Okay, so these asparas were painted on grottoes, and seemed to perform the same (caretaking, airborne) function as angels and later - muses.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:19 AM
Okay, so "Mongolian" itself is also a construct. Look at M. Remind you of anything? Mountains? Right. Mon (world)-gol(d)-ian. Or golum.
So the V must be a Valley.
And the W, an upside down M - was needed to represent the Welsh and all their Wynthy kind of words. :)
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:31 AM
Damn. I know this song - all about a simple man from the land of the palms who wants to go to the mountains when he dies. lol.
Guan-tan-a mira.
Guantanamo Bay.
Cuba is cube, right?
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:33 AM
is also in there - via the Dominicans, the order Thomas Aqui-nas was desperate to get into, and did - where he started writing about the circularity of time.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:37 AM
and Zapatistas too, right? Sub Comandante Marcos trained in Cuba then joined the Sandanistas before launching the (kypchak) uprising in San Cristobal de Las Casas, Chiapas in 1994 - against the finnqueros. (quiero means "I want" in Spanish). They want Finns there, yes they do. Kipchak heartland.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:45 AM
was a dominant Israeli tribe, and is believed to have been associated with the Sea Peoples. Could have been subset of the Canaanites..
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:51 AM
Look at this word. Mon-key. World key.
"Monkey King is the main character in the classical Chinese epic novel Journey to the West. In the novel, he accompanies the monk Xuanzang on the journey to retrieve Buddhist sutras from India .." This is that bizarre TV Monkey programme. lol.
There's something about the monkeys that human breeding needs to keep close.
They're breeding within rhe monkeys, as well.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 03:58 AM
And the Kypchak has the Neanderthal, therefore the monopoly of a critical factor - and a very strange historical status as both slave and celebrity (The Mayans were kind of celebrity neanderthals. They loved it. They really went to town. lol) But they were administered by Jews - Pakal is extremely Semitic looking - and his descendants can still to be seen in SC de Las Casas. Many Mayan Gods also have pronounced semitic noses.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 04:00 AM
In the nearby lowlands, Palenque has howler monkeys, wild horses and hongos.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 04:02 AM
Which makes you wonder what all those monks are really up to.
Mendel was a monk, wasn't he?
Dayum. lol
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 04:05 AM
"Mendel was born into an ethnic German family in Heinzendorf bei Odrau, Austrian Silesia, Austrian Empire (now Hynčice, Czech Republic), and was baptized two days later. He was the son of Anton and Rosine Mendel, and had one older sister and one younger. They lived and worked on a farm which had been owned by the Mendel family for at least 130 years.[2] During his childhood, Mendel worked as a gardener, studied beekeeping, and as a young man attended the Philosophical Institute in Olomouc in 1840–1843. Upon recommendation of his physics teacher Friedrich Franz, he entered the Augustinian Abbey of St. Thomas in Brno in 1843. Born Johann Mendel, he took the name Gregor upon entering monastic life. In 1851 he was sent to the University of Vienna to study, returning to his abbey in 1853 as a teacher, principally of physics.
Gregor Mendel, who is known as the "father of modern genetics", was inspired by both his professors at university and his colleagues at the monastery to study variation in plants, and he conducted his study in the monastery's garden.
Between 1856 and 1863 Mendel cultivated and tested some 29,000 pea plants (i.e. Pisum sativum). This study showed that one in four pea plants had purebred recessive alleles, two out of four were hybrid and one out of four were purebred dominant. His experiments brought forth two generalizations, the Law of Segregation and the Law of Independent Assortment, which later became known as Mendel's Laws of Inheritance."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 04:09 AM
Who needs test tubes, genetic engineering or cloning programmes?? They've been at it forever!
pS: Norway has the largest gene bank in the world.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 09:44 PM
Montana (spanish -pronounced montanya) - mondo, mundo ("world" - italian /spanish) mono (spanish -monkey)
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Funny how Mendelian's genetics was "lost" until 1900, and Charles Darwin never knew of them - and then they were downplayed because ..
"A major block to understanding their significance was the importance attached by 19th Century biologists to the apparent blending of inherited traits in the overall appearance of the progeny, now known to be due to multigene interactions.."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance
They didn't care about genes, but they cared plenty about blending?
Then as soon as the genic units became known, they were incorporated into the Darwiniain/Mendelian "synthesis" - which immediately became subjected to probability theory and statistical analysis - and totally abstracted.
Any talk of (Lamarkian) acquired inheritance was (and still is) aggressively attacked, and the entire 20th C genetic "project" was reduced to following random mutations of alleles across abstract populations.
It is only with the emergence of epigenetics in the last 10-15 years that genetics have actually started to get somewhere.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:06 PM
The Bezeklik Thousand Buddha Caves (Simplified Chinese:柏孜克里千佛洞; Hanyu Pinyin: Bózīkčlǐ Qiān Fó Dňng) are complex of Buddhist cave grottos dating from the 5th to the 9th centuries between the cities of Turpan and Shanshan (Loulan) at the north-east of the Taklamakan Desert near the ancient ruins of Gaochang in the Mutou Valley, a gorge in the Flaming Mountains, China.[1] They are high on the cliffs of the west Mutou Valley under the Flaming Mountains.[2]
There are 77 rock-cut caves at the site. Most have rectangular spaces with rounded arch ceilings often divided into four sections, each with a mural of Buddha ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezeklik
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:12 PM
"Yaksha (Sanskrit यक्ष, yakṣa , yakkha in Pāli ) is the name of a broad class of nature-spirits, usually benevolent, who are caretakers of the natural treasures hidden in the earth and tree roots.[1] They appear in Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology.[1] The feminine form of the word is yakṣī or yakṣiṇī (Pāli: yakkhī or yakkhinī) ...
.. In Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist mythology, the yakṣa has a dual personality. On the one hand, a yakṣa may be an inoffensive nature-fairy, associated with woods and mountains; but there is a much darker version of the yakṣa, which is a kind of cannibalistic ogre, ghost or demon that haunts the wilderness and waylays and devours travelers, similar to the rakṣasas. .
In Indian art, male yakṣas are portrayed either as fearsome warriors or as portly, stout and dwarf-like. Female yakṣas, known as yakṣiṇīs, are portrayed as beautiful young women with happy round faces and full breasts and hips.
In the state of Kerala, in South India, Yakshis are depicted as vampire enchantresses ..
PADMAVATI DEVI
She is the dedicated deity of Lord Parshvanath, the 23rd Tirthankar. 23rd Jain tirthankar Parshvanath is always represented with the hood of a snake shading his head. The Yaksha Dharanendra and the Yakshi Padmavati are often shown flanking him.
Her color is golden and her vehicle is the snake with a cock's head. She has four arms and her two right hands hold a lotus and a rosary. The two left hands hold a fruit and a rein.
CHAKRESHWARE DEVI
She is the dedicated attendant deity of lord Adinath (Rishabhadev). She is also called by another name i.e. Apratichakra. The color of this goddess is golden. Her Vehicle is the eagle. She has eight arms. In her four right hands she holds the blessing mudra, arrow, rope and wheel. In her four left hands she holds the rein, the bow, the protective weapon of Indra and the wheel.
AMBIKA DEVI
She is the dedicated deity of Lord Neminath the 22nd Tirthankara. She is also called Ambai Amba and Amra Kushmandini. Her color is golden and the lion is her vehicle. She has four arms. In her two right hands she carries a mango and in the other a branch of a mango tree. In her one left hand she carries a rein and in the other she hasher two sons.
SARASWATHI DEVI
Saraswati, the goddess of knowledge, is considered to be the source of all learning. This divine energy is the source of spiritual light, remover of all ignorance and promoter of all knowledge. She is respected and adored by all faiths, worldly persons and saints. She has four arms, one holding a book, the other a rosary and two hands holding a musical instrument Veena. Her seat is a lotus and the peacock is her vehicle representing equanimity in prosperity. In some places it is mentioned that the swan is her vehicle.
LAKSHMI DEVI
Goddess Lakshmi represents wealth. People worship her as the goddess of wealth, power, money etc. Just like Saraswathi, She is respected and adored by all faiths, and popular amongst worldly persons. In the upper two hands, she is holding a lotus with an elephant, in the lower right hand a rosary and in the lower left hand a pot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaksha
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:25 PM
Both Chiapas and the Dominican Republic are known for amber, but at 15-17 million years, is younger than baltic amber, which is 40-60 million.
In German it is known as burn-stone.
In Mayan culture it was used as copal in religious ceremonies.
Amber comes from pine trees. "..a large number of conifers belonging to different genera are represented in the amber-flora..".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:28 PM
"In Sanskrit, ambar refers to a covering generally, or a garment in particular. Dig, an older form of disha, refers to the cardinal directions. Digambar therefore means "covered by the four directions", or "sky-clad". Svet means white and Svetambars wear white garments .."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
They also needed "W" for swedes.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:30 PM
Mosques are mosquitos in Spanish - they live on, and drink the blood of others.
hatshepsut
09-05-2009, 10:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jataka
Can't find the actual link I want there right now. I'll come back to it.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 03:46 AM
Fairly sure the "nas" in Thomas Aquinas refers to Nestorianism. The Norwegian college which sends students here is called "Nestor".
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 03:53 AM
Okay, also can't find this exact link right now, but the words "mass" and "mesa" mean the same thing in Sanskrit - mesa being Spanish for "table" and "plateau". So this was the original word for "altar" and "mass" - as in Messiah.
What does al-tar look like?
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 03:54 AM
Who do you think the (African) Zulu are? L3?
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 03:56 AM
Cro-Asian, right? And Ser(bs)
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 04:18 AM
Okay, so I'm sitting in a restaurant called Mangos with cornflowers on the table, and I smell the red and white rose on the next table, and told it's name is clavel (clave is spanish for key), so I ask the name of the black birds here, which look like minahs to me, and their name is Zanate (nate as in nativity) but their other name is cuervo, which translates as "raven" but on the ear it sounds a lot like "curve" to me, as in arc.
This is after I have patted the local red & white and black & white cats, checked out the iguana with red and white markings up its spine, said hello to the lovebirds owned by the kypchaks, watched the turtle doves and humming birds in another place, checked out the red and golden quartz striation in the local rocks , watched the large red setting sun, and ordered a carrot and beetroot juice from the waiter called Kenny, but whose other name is ankh (spelled angel), while I watch a music video chockablock full of white doves, spinning spirals, lions, fire hoops, and the word "profumare" (fumare is to smoke) - after which I go to the shop - where the lighters (en-cen-di-dors) on the counter are made by Tokai.
It's absolutely everywhere here.
I might add that the restaurant it is owned by a Caucasian mix, and administered (loosely) by two brothers who I swear are just a couple of generations removed from monkeys, and worked by hispanic mixes with the money handled by an Indian girl, with a south asian girl backing her up.
A number of businesses have Arc in their name.
Even the freaking seagulls have some red in them - as does the sea itself right now - with a red and gold foam.
What the hell is that?
Or would that to be the let the cat (cut) out of the bag?
PS: I forgot to mention the bees - that would be the melapona mayan bees.
Dig?
hatshepsut, there is a lot to assimilate in this thread—and if people are often slow to respond, it is only because the material is so overwhelming in nature. But please go on!
Much of this is similar to what Glen Kealey has apparently been saying—but everyone kind of wrote off that guy as crazy (or at least incomprehensible).
michael christopher
10-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Okay, so I'm sitting in a restaurant called Mangos with cornflowers on the table, and I smell the red and white rose on the next table, and told it's name is clavel (clave is spanish for key), so I ask the name of the black birds here, which look like minahs to me, and their name is Zanate (nate as in nativity) but their other name is cuervo, which translates as "raven" but on the ear it sounds a lot like "curve" to me, as in arc.
This is after I have patted the local red & white and black & white cats, checked out the iguana with red and white markings up its spine, said hello to the lovebirds owned by the kypchaks, watched the turtle doves and humming birds in another place, checked out the red and golden quartz striation in the local rocks , and ordered a carrot and beetroot juice from the waiter called Kenny, but whose other name is ankh (spelled angel), while I watch a music video chockablock full of white doves, spinning spirals, and the word "profumare" (fumare is to smoke) - after which I go to the shop - where the lighters on the counter are made by Tokai.
It's stuff like this that gets me. I mean, how do they control the breeding of animals? Are the owners of every restaurant there purposely finding the right colored napkins? Does the menu only contain particular types of food?
It's really hard for me to buy that such an absolutely elaborate, specific system of symbolism is used by the owners of small diners in Mexico.
Is this symbolism just as elaborate everywhere? Because I don't really see the point, if it is - what does it do to create it?
I don't know...
I think you're right about a lot of it but I don't think it's even possible to control it to the extent you are saying.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:02 PM
And of course, the red/white/black calico.
cal(edonian) i co(rta)
The kali cut.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:04 PM
Nestor(k)
nes(t)
Stork nests are common in Turkey, especially on top of minarets.
There is also a large stork nest (or perhaps eagle, as we have occasional eagles not storks) cut into the rocks.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:09 PM
So I'm passing the harapan place this morning, and here's the beatles singing -
ch(a)i guru deva - OM
and Lennon saying "Nothing's gonna change my world .."
Chi= Life, also Che, also Chai; K(a)i in Mayan, Ja(i) in Jamaica.
This must when Lennon was told - in India.
its been an interesting read hatshepsut thankyu
can yu do me a favour, perhaps yu could do a brief summary here that explains the basics of human origin on earth, id like to see a theoretic timeline that displays yur views on modern mans migration into existence on this planet.
its an extremely huge history lesson this, we have monkeys, neanderthals and humans, did either come first, or are they all their own being, similar but totally unrelated?i wanna kno how man got here, i believe so far that there is infinite forms of life especially infinite variations of human life in the universe. ive had the notion that different races of man have been brought here by their original ancestors, from other planets. for example the natives of most continents. seems like they were brought here to look over the earth as one. the white man seems to be the odd one out, with no real purpose, history or home. the jews come to mind. lol
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:15 PM
Okay, so if we look at Oscan, which was the language family which included Latin, we find that in Oscan, they subsitute P for Qu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscan_language
Thus P for plateau (mesa, altar, mass, platter) is synonmous with Queen.
So the Christian PX may be read Royal Crossed Altar.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:22 PM
The red heart is a primary symbol.
Cor(cut, core) -a- zon(e)..
Spanish has been right in there from the start.
EsTar bien? Shortened in speech to 'star bien.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:23 PM
Right, because it spins and spans.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:25 PM
for everyone's comments, but I'm really strapped for time here, and with so much to tell ..
Since you mentioned it before, the G is a pictograph of a phallus inseminating a female C ("sea"). Because Generation is the Gnosis of the Great Architect of the Universe.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:32 PM
God, so I worked out where they're doing the core breeding here, and it's obvious.
Hua (human being) tu- l - co is a very large resort complex set up by the Mexican govt - spread acoss 9 beaches in southern Oaxaca (near Chiapas) with an expansive coastline of spectacular cliffs. They're breeding there. They also have the Neanderthal, because I have met one. He is a musician, with a classic neanderthal mouth.
They are absolutely breeding from monkeys too. Too many fresh monkey faces here for them not to be.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Okay, I need to make it clear that the genomes need to be refreshed.
Red and blonde hair need be continually substantiated, because they are recessive, and they need to be refreshed close to (preferrably at) the source (pure inbreed).
This seems to also apply to all the genomes. This is why the core is so important.
I was refreshed at the Caucasian (Scottish) source by at least one (red /blonde) grandmother. I have also been recently refreshed at the Mongolian and African source too. I can tell.
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Just thinking about them for a minute. There's Diana and Dodi (dead as a dodo? a door door?) and her mother Shand Kydd (shandy is a mixed red/white drink, right?) and her step mother Raine (Reina, queen).
hatshepsut
10-05-2009, 07:53 PM
And the duck billed platypus of Australia - a genetic contrivance?
What is the role of androgyny in all of this? Crazy old Kealey goes on about the Neanderthals in the "Moho Discontinuity" trying to breed a "male hermaphrodite" for the year 6000 AD. While this can probably be dismissed as nonsense, there is a big element of this in the various esoteric streams—the whole idea of trying to rejoin the male/female Adam Kadmon and all.
asentinel
13-05-2009, 09:47 AM
Corruption and war torn states produce refugees, military occupation and inevitable mixing local people with occupation forces or those on military bases, eg. in Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Japan. etc.
Deliberate immigration programmes as we seem to have here with many asian and russian brides hooking up with local males. Usually the males are older and less appealing, and they have less opportunities to find partners locally. That is very un pc, sorry, but it is commonly spoken about. Children are an interesting blend.
Education / travel / working holiday visas for young (only up to a certain age) from certain areas, eg. there seem to be many males here from punjab region, Bollywood breakout? ha.
There seem to be local communities of Ethiopian and some other African refugees. Also communities of Pacific Islanders, with new working visas available.
Ok events in history like gold rushes bring an influx of new genetic mixes.
Afghanistan, some of the hill tribe people have unusual coloured eyes, green blue mix/hazel.
Argentina, as with other South American countries, contains many blonde germans since WWII.
Many Polish people have moved to Ireland. The EU has opened up possibilites for many gene pools to migrate and mix.
The Yeti myth or fact, alive in many parts of the world, any connection to the monkey mix.
Norway, contains largest gene bank (seed bank) as you say, is it not at Svaalbard???, and have you read the works of Philip Pullman the (childrens fantasy?) author from Britain who wrote the series "His Dark Materials" and the 3 films being made, first of which is Golden Compass, starring, Nicole Kidman. Her "daemon" in the movie is a monkey, and in this fantasy world it represents a part of the being's soul, which in the story, the "Magesterium" short for "Illuminati", is seeking scientific method of removing the "daemons" from the children, and is kidnapping them and transporting them to the north to do this. That is very rough outline, just enough to tie in your own points to get you to investigate this if you have not already.
Iceland, was the population studied genetically, as it has been one of the most isolated for so long and hence pure, probably inbred?
Any of this relevant?
I can see you are streaming info and pulling together stuff to find your answers to local questions raised. I think some people are being lost but I don't need it spelled out, can go with the pace.
Are there two or more factions doing the breeding, that seems to come across in your posts, are these factions competing to produce "slaves" and are these children of certain ages being transported through dimensional portals into future/and/or past.
It is horrible to think we are such cheap fodder for research.
cheers.
come to think of it I have met some of those people who may be part sloth/baboon/neanderthal..... sorry just couldn't resist.
hatshepsut
13-05-2009, 06:28 PM
Your inbox is full. :)
asentinel
16-05-2009, 08:30 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65336
luciferhorus
16-05-2009, 10:20 AM
Deliberate immigration programmes as we seem to have here with many asian and russian brides hooking up with local males. Usually the males are older and less appealing, and they have less opportunities to find partners locally. That is very un pc, sorry, but it is commonly spoken about. Children are an interesting blend.
The Return to Year Zero, and On Racism, Species-ism and Eugenics
Not too long ago in history, prior to the Industrial revolution, the vast majority of humanity lived not in the cities and towns, but on the land and were agriculturalists; they rarely if ever travelled more than a few miles from their home; their 'travels' would rarely ever extend beyond the local market town.
With international travel and emigration from the countryisde to the cities of the world in search of Capital, the world is slowly becoming a melting pot of races. This is an entirely good thing genetically; the mixing of the races is the ultimate form of Eugenics (‘improving the qualities of the human species’).
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/3502130-lg.jpg
The numerous 'races (from 'raca:' family) of the earth are 'all' simply slight variations in appearance from differing regional 'families', but we are all, without exception that we know of, 'homo sapiens (‘man thinking)' and thus ontologically (i.e., the type of being) the same 'species.'
It is quite probable that homo erectus (which was a different species with smaller brains, as opposed to a different 'race') could not interbreed with homo sapien, and as to the global extinction of homo erectus, since homo erectus remains have commonly been found whose bones had been cooked and gnawed prior to 'eating,' (and it is only homo sapiens on earth who cook food), it is quite possible that they were considered an 'inferior species (as opposed to 'race'),' and hunted for food.
http://learnsomethingnewtoday.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/inbreeding.jpg
Due to our advanced intelligence it is not unnatural to consider ourselves superior to other species (such as insects or fish etc); if there is a 'master race' in 'physical' terms it is probably the our darker skinned African brothers and sisters with their thick skin, their resistance to skin cancer, their stronger bodies, their physical adaptation to the earth's climate, the larger hips of the women which are more suitable for child bearing than their skinnier and physically weaker European counterparts, and so forth; however there is simply no evidence for differences in intelligence between the races which cannot be explained by educational and environmental factors; for example a middle class child of the First World who is well fed and well educated will always have an advantage in an I.Q. test over a Third World child who is uneducated and lives in shanty town of poverty, hunger and despair.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/mixedblessings/gfx/tiger-family-cp-3200430.jpg
The interbreeding of humanity is creating a melting pot and producing a new race (family) of children whose genetic ancestors are a mixture of numerous other races; this is entirely a positive step both genetically and also ideologically in terms of the eradication of the psychological disease which is racism (family-ism) which is no different to the diseases of nationalism, xenophobia (my culture is better than yours) or regionalism or even the attitude of football hooligans that 'my football team is better than yours;' all these are rather stupid barriers which divide the proletariat and pit them against each other, rather than focusing on their real enemies, the economic, aristocratic and military masters.
http://www.mothersover40.com/files/iman.jpg
To prove a point I would often ask my African male friends and acquaintances if they would prefer to have white European lovers or African lovers, and they would almost universally state their preference as white Europeans; similarly with females of African descent, they almost universally want a white European lover; this is genetically quite natural; similarly with myself I leave behind no Aryan children, but rather mixed race children and I prefer lovers of other races (families); my children are thus citizens of the New Aeon and their 'race' cannot be determined by their appearance.
http://www.newprophecy.net/post-apocalypse_2.jpg
In the modern age we live in, we have just recently passed the point where more than 50% of global population now live in the urban sprawl of the towns and cities. Towns and cities will inevitably be affected first by the breakdown of Capitalism, and particularly in the First world, due to the effects of globalisation and the export of manufacturing to the labour slaves of the Third World; the consequence of this shall inevitably be the rise of poverty, and the crime, violence and social breakdown which accompany the increase in poverty. Further with the outbreak of nuclear war, the towns and cities which constitute Capitalism's command and control centres can be expected to be the major targets of destruction and consequently also of martial law and of the culling and incarceration of the population.
http://axisofeviltour.com/nk-images/images/nk-kim-statue-hammer-sickle-brush_jpg.jpg
It is certainly an age for those who can, to flee the major state terrorist nations of Britain, America and Israel (occupied Palestine). Flee the cities and towns if you can and head for the countryside, the hills, the ocean, and begin the exodus to the Motherland (Africa), and to the third World, and return to agriculture and food production; those who can do this and their offspring shall be the more likely survivors of Armageddon, but they must also take with them the political correctness (correct politics) of the melting pots which are our cities and put behind them inbreeding, nationalism, xenophobia, tribalism and racism which are the curses of the past.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2988485149_968a5897bf.jpg?v=0
Marx's view was that the advances in technology and education of the First World must be exported to the Third World, but this is not merely about 'hardware (things),' but also about the human mind and this involves a process of education, and thus the export of 'educators (i.e. persons); the process of collectivising the Motherland cannot be initiated unless collectivists of First World bring their Capitalist wealth, their education and technological expertise there and share it with their brothers and sisters; it is only they of the First World who are the exploiters of our brothers and sisters in the Third World who are despised by our Third World brothers and sisters; they who seek to selflessly love and share what they have will find themselves welcome anywhere, love is the universal language.
The future world must in time become one race (the human race) of brothers and sisters; anti-racism, anti-nationalism, anti-tribalism and anti-xenophobia are all mandatory inclusions of 'correct politics;' the unthinkable alternative is that humanity remains divided, and we who are divided are much more easily conquered and manipulated by the economic and military masters.
Lux
lux e tenebris
http://www.luciferia.tv/animation/A.gif
One People, One Race (the human race), One Kingdom, One Law.
Love is the Law.
There can be only One.
Armageddon, the 1000 year Agricultural Revolution (swords to ploughshares) and the Revolution of the many points of Light (technological revolution).
They who are not for the revolution are against it.
No mercy on they who deserve none.
http://www.endgamethemovie.com/images/frontcoverlarge.jpg
Engame on video.google 2hours 19 minutes.
Eugenics and the New World Order.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4583630379439989634&ei=pXMOSqvaOMiG-QbNg6HTBQ&hl=en
asentinel
17-05-2009, 09:20 AM
no it was not, just stating what is happening here in this corner, in relation to other poster's ideas on deliberate control of gene pool by illuminati to refresh genes.
I am sure it is very healthy to have more mixes, and this thread has been discussing a planned restart of the species, which is an interesting concept.
The body suit is a bio-computer and it is interesting to observe programmes have been loaded up and passed on in the genes, due to local conditions, among families and regions.
I think mixed race children have amazing potential so don't get the comment skewed please.
altruist551
17-05-2009, 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by altruist551, responding to hatshepsut:
Your point is well taken. Since 1995, many of my family and friends have died. The pressure to keep silent is real. The problem is that if we all keep silent, then this crowd continues to hurt massive numbers of people. Keep posting. I'm reading.
Response from hatshepsut: Thanks. I am actually one of them in that I am a Cameron, a gifted person, and a product of the programme myself. But having kept all the resources only for select males, it was only a matter of time before someone like me came along, especially with the internet and current knowledge. Their number is up. I just have to stay alive to tell it. Thanks the support though. I need it.
My response: Cameron is a popular name in the county I live in. I guess it's not random.
altruist551
17-05-2009, 04:20 PM
stewart edwards,
Your reply is unexpected and welcome. I have a situation that is unique to me, meaning that I have never heard of anything like this happening in our world before my situation. The story begins in 1995 when I left my husband. With my children, thought I would just start a new life as a single-mother. Not so. Armed with a letter from the Battered Women's Shelter in this county dated 1994, that asked anyone who could help us to please do so, I had confidence that we would simply start over. I did not suspect anything sinister or evil b/c I just don't see it. I had a rabbi once tell me, "xxx, you have no guile, therefore you see no guile in others." Well, that's good and it's not so good.
I have been given warnings, brief tidbits of information about the family I married into, and people who try to help die. One person worked for the Women's Commission here in the county where I live, she died after agreeing to take the case. The person who filled her position at work is the daughter of friends of my in-law's. The accountant a the car dealership disappeared, most likely dead, when he showed me some information about my father-in-law's business on the company computer and gave me his personal contact information. It's turning into a serious situation. The FBI tells me that it's my x-husband. I'm trying to sell my memoirs. Are you connected with a publishing house?
P.S. What sends me to this website is that through the years I have noticed "patterns" that show up subtly. There are about 10-families who are holding hands and their presence is always associated with the questionable activity I have been reporting. So, in summary, I have "figured out" some "network" that is big. The Illuminati is a name that has come up during my years of reporting personal situations. I am on this site looking for more information to filter through what I am aware of personally.
stewart edwards
17-05-2009, 06:34 PM
stewart edwards,
Your reply is unexpected and welcome. I have a situation that is unique to me, meaning that I have never heard of anything like this happening in our world before my situation. You are very unlikely to be alone. The world does not really work that way that often. The more you post on the internet the more you are likley to find people who understand in any situation. Just remain cautious for not everyone is who they claim to be, while others have ulterior motives or are simply ego fuelled, and then there are the wannabbeeees giving advice based on heresay rather than experience. Just be careful.
The story begins in 1995 when I left my husband. With my children, thought I would just start a new life as a single-mother. Not so. Armed with a letter from the Battered Women's Shelter in this county dated 1994, that asked anyone who could help us to please do so, I had confidence that we would simply start over. I did not suspect anything sinister or evil b/c I just don't see it. I had a rabbi once tell me, "xxx, you have no guile, therefore you see no guile in others." Well, that's good and it's not so good.I suffer from a bit of that myself, but I prefer to see it as giving everyone a fair chance. It is my experience that having a good heart is the best protection you can have in life. Stuff still happens but it is less damaging when it does. And sometimes miracles do happen just when you need them.
I have been given warnings, brief tidbits of information about the family I married into, and people who try to help die. One person worked for the Women's Commission here in the county where I live, she died after agreeing to take the case.What did she die of? Could it be coincidental? How many people who have helped you die soon afterwards? Why do feel the inner drive to find out more? I know what it is like for people not to tell you much, snippets here and there, but what I have found to be most effective is just to let others get on with it while I work on myself. Yes it can stew your noddle, but after a while I just stopped bothering, if others want to play games, or be afraid of talking that is their business, I am just plodding on doing what little I can where and when I can. You may find it useful, if you can, to simply stop focusing on it all, just focus on getting some cash in to feed yourself and taking every day one at a time. It may be that what you are going through now will equip you to see your purpose in life more clearly. If anyone wanted you dead, you probably would be, and if people just want to hurt you they will, but in time they tend to move onto hurting others. You could do worse than making your peace if you can, safely, with those who are hurting you. I found once that a phone call to a powerful bloke explaining that I had had enough was sufficient. His ego was flattered, he won, he moved on, as did I. Now some years later we get on ok and I think if he were being honest he would admit that I helped him grow as a person. He near enough broke me, but I learnt to rebuild my life again.
The person who filled her position at work is the daughter of friends of my in-law's. The accountant a the car dealership disappeared, most likely dead, when he showed me some information about my father-in-law's business on the company computer and gave me his personal contact information. It's turning into a serious situation.As you describe it indeed it could be. But why do you assume dead?
The FBI tells me that it's my x-husband.I should leave it in their hands and follow their advice. Being in the UK I cant relly directly you on where to go.
I'm trying to sell my memoirs. Are you connected with a publishing house?Sadly no. If you are doing it for the money I cant help, but if you are doing it just to get your story out you could consider publishing on the web.
If the FBI are involved, I am surpised that you feel the need to seek help here. What have the FBI advised you? If you are allowed to say? If it were me I would most likely be following their advice and guidance. Mind you I have a natural advantage as I have no doubts about reincarnation so dont worry about death. I used to but having watched death creep up on a loved one and having faced death myself, I now see death as a new beginning as opposed to an end.
Why arent you feeling secure and trusting the advice from the FBI?
hatshepsut
18-05-2009, 04:03 AM
Sorry to leave y'all hanging but I've been researching, and hope to post some very interesting stuff this week.
Did you know the chemical sign for copper is the ankh?
altruist551
18-05-2009, 02:44 PM
stewart edwards,
Thanks for the feedback. I have much detail that is left out of my posts that would answer your questions directly. The internet may be exactly what I should do. The choice to sell my memoirs is my way of earning an income. Like Mark Twain who used his experiences to sell books, I thought that maybe this is one option that is a cause/effect type situation. I have approached law enforcement for 17-years only to find people re-routed in their job descriptions, people die - it can't all be random, and the connections between people are more obvious today than they were when I married into this family. My attorney told me, "xxx, you have more power than you know." Well,...
The person at the Women's Commission was one of two people who I spoke with on day one. The attorney in the office also agreed to take the case. We walked into the conference room, and I slid my separation agreement across the table to him. He read the cover, recognized the names, looked blank for a second or two, and slid it back to me. He said, "I've known your mother-in-law for thirty-five years, xxx. She will hurt you. I won't touch this." Then the meeting was over. The other woman did not back down. She assigned a counselor to visit each of my children at their respective schools for the designated number of visits. This happened. Then, the counselors were no longer employed in that particular position. The files are somewhere. And the person I spoke with died in recovery after an unexpected surgery. Her position was filled by the daughter of one of my in-law's friends. My father-in-law was the Chairman of the Board for a hospital here. I don't know which hospital this woman died in.
There's is so much more to say. When I noticed that the family had so many ties to aristocracy, I started noticing the names of secret societies. Then, I learned that the Skull & Bones group at Yale University was the North American chapter of the Illuminati. This family has the following ties that cause me to think that I am reading the situation correctly:
My mother-in-law is related to a couple of the presidents at Yale. She was born in Connecticut.
My sister-in-law married into a family that is friends with President Bush, Sr. because her father-in-law attended Yale with George H.W. Bush. It took the family about 3-weeks to be granted a security clearance to visit the Bush family.
This family shares a time-share situation in another state with Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Conner.
That was her father-in-law. Her mother-in-law is/was Belgium aristocracy. She died during the week following a vacation with my mother-in-law.
My mother-in-law told me once in an angry tone, "xxx, you're very smart and you have a photographic memory." She was mad.
When I first married into the family, she had a maid named Maggie. Maggie was older than 60 and black. She worked two days each week, 8-hours each day, for $20 a week. The going rate at the time was $60 a day. Maggie believe my mother-in-law would help her get a Habitat for Humanity house b/c my father-in-law's commercial construction company had an estimated worth of over 600-million in 2004, and Maggie believed the family would help her IF she worked hard enough.
Just after my wedding to the only son in the family, Maggie was out sick for a day. I knew where she lived b/c I had driven her home. She rode in the front seat of my car reluctantly b/c my mother-in-law made her ride in the backseat. I went to a Food Lion and bought a 20-pound turkey, a bag of frozen corn, a 10-pound bag of potatoes, and a gallon of milk for Maggie and drove to her house to give it to her. After a short visit, I drove to my mother-in-law's house to be certain that the food I had given to Maggie was ok for a diabetic to eat. Instead of the confirmation I expected, my mother-in-law told me, again in an angry tone, "xxx, if you ever do that again, you'll have trouble fitting in here." I had trouble fitting in. Maggie died in her government housing project house. My mother-in-law doesn't even know where she is buried. I found out about her death about a year after she was buried. She had children that she wanted to provide for. She simply looked in the wrong direction.
There is so much more to say. I've given the FBI over 20,000 pages of information.
stewart edwards
18-05-2009, 04:08 PM
There is so much more to say. I've given the FBI over 20,000 pages of information.If it were me I would then let things be, put it to bed, and get on with my life as best I could. It is possible to rebuild your life after bad times, I know this from personal experience. I just took one day at a time, focused on the basics, and stopped fretting over the actions of others. It catapulted me forwards in ways that even astonish me at times. I found that when you focus on making yourself a better person that life really does tend to give you what you need and places you in a much better position after a decade. This may seem like a long time, but it isnt.
The difficult bit is forgiving others, but that is an important first step. Therin in lies the key to real power in this world. Though I realise how strange that probably sounds.
grandsecretary
18-05-2009, 04:11 PM
stewart edwards,
Thanks for the feedback. I have much detail that is left out of my posts that would answer your questions directly. The internet may be exactly what I should do. The choice to sell my memoirs is my way of earning an income. Like Mark Twain who used his experiences to sell books, I thought that maybe this is one option that is a cause/effect type situation. I have approached law enforcement for 17-years only to find people re-routed in their job descriptions, people die - it can't all be random, and the connections between people are more obvious today than they were when I married into this family. My attorney told me, "xxx, you have more power than you know." Well,...
The person at the Women's Commission was one of two people who I spoke with on day one. The attorney in the office also agreed to take the case. We walked into the conference room, and I slid my separation agreement across the table to him. He read the cover, recognized the names, looked blank for a second or two, and slid it back to me. He said, "I've known your mother-in-law for thirty-five years, xxx. She will hurt you. I won't touch this." Then the meeting was over. The other woman did not back down. She assigned a counselor to visit each of my children at their respective schools for the designated number of visits. This happened. Then, the counselors were no longer employed in that particular position. The files are somewhere. And the person I spoke with died in recovery after an unexpected surgery. Her position was filled by the daughter of one of my in-law's friends. My father-in-law was the Chairman of the Board for a hospital here. I don't know which hospital this woman died in.
There's is so much more to say. When I noticed that the family had so many ties to aristocracy, I started noticing the names of secret societies. Then, I learned that the Skull & Bones group at Yale University was the North American chapter of the Illuminati. This family has the following ties that cause me to think that I am reading the situation correctly:
My mother-in-law is related to a couple of the presidents at Yale. She was born in Connecticut.
My sister-in-law married into a family that is friends with President Bush, Sr. because her father-in-law attended Yale with George H.W. Bush. It took the family about 3-weeks to be granted a security clearance to visit the Bush family.
This family shares a time-share situation in another state with Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Conner.
That was her father-in-law. Her mother-in-law is/was Belgium aristocracy. She died during the week following a vacation with my mother-in-law.
My mother-in-law told me once in an angry tone, "xxx, you're very smart and you have a photographic memory." She was mad.
When I first married into the family, she had a maid named Maggie. Maggie was older than 60 and black. She worked two days each week, 8-hours each day, for $20 a week. The going rate at the time was $60 a day. Maggie believe my mother-in-law would help her get a Habitat for Humanity house b/c my father-in-law's commercial construction company had an estimated worth of over 600-million in 2004, and Maggie believed the family would help her IF she worked hard enough.
Just after my wedding to the only son in the family, Maggie was out sick for a day. I knew where she lived b/c I had driven her home. She rode in the front seat of my car reluctantly b/c my mother-in-law made her ride in the backseat. I went to a Food Lion and bought a 20-pound turkey, a bag of frozen corn, a 10-pound bag of potatoes, and a gallon of milk for Maggie and drove to her house to give it to her. After a short visit, I drove to my mother-in-law's house to be certain that the food I had given to Maggie was ok for a diabetic to eat. Instead of the confirmation I expected, my mother-in-law told me, again in an angry tone, "xxx, if you ever do that again, you'll have trouble fitting in here." I had trouble fitting in. Maggie died in her government housing project house. My mother-in-law doesn't even know where she is buried. I found out about her death about a year after she was buried. She had children that she wanted to provide for. She simply looked in the wrong direction.
There is so much more to say. I've given the FBI over 20,000 pages of information.
Here is someone else who blames their own problems on someone, or something, anything else, other than their own shortcomings. Stop moaning and do something about it.
hatshepsut
18-05-2009, 05:29 PM
The Nestorian schism of Constantinople occured when -
"The Assyrian Church of the East refused to drop support for Nestorius or to denounce him as a heretic. That church has continued to be called "Nestorian" in the West, to distinguish it from other ancient Eastern churches. However, the Church of the East does not regard its doctrine as truly Nestorian: it teaches the view of Babai the Great - Christ has two qnome (manifest or individuated substance, similar to hypostasis) that are unmingled and eternally united in one parsopa (person) .."
So here is a q-nome, referring to two entities united in the one parsopa . Sopa is spanish for soup, and para means across, between. Across the soup.
Here is the lower case q substituted for g- reflected in the english word reign.
hatshepsut
18-05-2009, 05:43 PM
"The Altai Mountains (Russian: Алтай Altay; Mongolian: Алтай; Chinese: 阿尔泰山脉,) are a mountain range in central Asia, where Russia, China, Mongolia and Kazakhstan come together, and where the rivers Irtysh, Ob and Yenisei have their sources. The Altai Mountains are known as the Turkic peoples' birthplace ..
The name, in Turkic Alytau or Altay, means Al (gold), tau (mount); in Mongolian - the "Mountains of Gold."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altay_Mountains
Check this map of the region.
http://www.centralasiatravel.com/images/central_asia_big.jpg
The Altai are located at the joining point of between Mongolia and Kazakhstan.
To the east is Lake Baikal, the oldest lake in the world, and shaped like a crescent moon.
To the south is the Gobi desert, to the west - Kazakhstan, to the North - Siberia, and the Krasnoyarsk Kray, with long winters and a kurgan grave- mound culture dating from 7000 BC.
The Krasnoyarsk Kray also includes the Evenk Autonomous Zone.
ps: You will also note that the Altais are directly north of Bhutan and Tibet in the Himalayas.