Video of crop circle being formed.

[seamus]

It sure ain't no couple of drunks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNuGWQCLxg0&mode=related&search=

at 1:15, you will see a couple of lights running around in the field and then all the crop circle forms AT THE SAME TIME.


s

Yeah i know it's listed under comedy but there's nothing funny about it.

[houdini]

well thats where it really does belong.
actually i thought thirdwave would have jumped on this, ya know, with that tattoo and all....
meaning that he must have a good knowledge of crop circles.

theres a few good interviews and transcripts out there that shed some light on this seamus

[21_12_2012]

It sure ain't no couple of drunks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNuGWQCLxg0&mode=related&search=

at 1:15, you will see a couple of lights running around in the field and then all the crop circle forms AT THE SAME TIME.


s

Yeah i know it's listed under comedy but there's nothing funny about it.

Unfortunately, the crop circle video was faked. It had me fooled for a while a couple of years ago.
There's a report about it here:- http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/Sorensen/articles/sorensen.html

But, the WTC video of the UFO is real enough.
When I first saw it I thought it looked a bit suspicious with the 'trail' it leaves behind as it shoots into the air, but the trail is actually a vapour trail which is left behind when an object hits supersonic speed.

[houdini]

But, the WTC video of the UFO is real enough.
When I first saw it I thought it looked a bit suspicious with the 'trail' it leaves behind as it shoots into the air, but the trail is actually a vapour trail which is left behind when an object hits supersonic speed.


you need to look into this a bit deeper.....

[21_12_2012]

you need to look into this a bit deeper.....

Why's that ?

[houdini]

:rolleyes:

[houdini]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=malaysia+ufo&search=Search

what do you think about that one???

[21_12_2012]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=malaysia+ufo&search=Search

what do you think about that one???

Far from being a UFO expert, the malasia one looks to me like it could have easily been faked. I have never seen that one before.

But, the WTC footage UFO i have looped that footage thousands of times, and slowed it down frame-by-frame. In my opinion it could not have been faked, also many web sites agree, but also some websites attempt to debunk it.
I guess we'll never know for 100%.

[thirdwave]

the thing is with all these videos is so many of them are debunked but in strange circumstances.... how can we ever tell... thats the point...

it would not take much to threat people to be quite or say what they are told...

for me there is no smoke without fire.... and all these videos are not just from thin air...

i am %100 that "orbs" create many crop circles as well as some people who get inspiration come from a higher source to create them..as well as people who have a desire to debunk the fact they are anything more than creations on men with planks of wood....

even though some have been 9oo feet in diameter ..created over night with out being seen, with around 450 perfect circles in it... leaving the crops undamaged.

like many stuff I think the picture is far bigger than many think.

[21_12_2012]

the thing is with all these videos is so many of them are debunked but in strange circumstances.... how can we ever tell... thats the point...

it would not take much to threat people to be quite or say what they are told...

for me there is no smoke without fire.... and all these videos are not just from thin air...

i am %100 that "orbs" create many crop circles as well as some people who get inspiration come from a higher source to create them..as well as people who have a desire to debunk the fact they are anything more than creations on men with planks of wood....

even though some have been 9oo feet in diameter ..created over night with out being seen, with around 450 perfect circles in it... leaving the crops undamaged.

like many stuff I think the picture is far bigger than many think.

Exactly, there is no smoke without fire. I also agree about the orbs creating the circles.
I have read also that the patterns are being put in certain 'energy' spots (many around the stonehenge area), and they're put at these spots to help to 'anchor the new frequencies' which the earth is now receiving and absorbing.
The sensationalism on tv with the 2 men with the planks of wood was an ideal event for the 'powers that be' to simply make the people shrug off the idea that any crop circles are genuine, and it worked.
If you ask most people about crop circles, they will always remember the 2 guys with the planks of wood, and say "they're all faked"....but, when you actually study the subject, and realise that the 'genuine' crop circles actually interweave the corn stems in a uniform fashion, accurately interwoven and the stalks are bent but not snapped....also the electromagnetic energy within the circles is extremely high, and in fact causes the stems within the circle to grow faster and healthier than the unaffected stems in the same field.
Faked circles always contain snapped stems, and they're very untidy.
People do not know this, and dismiss crop circles as all hoaxes made by people with boards and rope .. .wrong !!
The designs have become more and more complex over the years, and time and time again they baffle even the most expert mathematicians as to how they could have been created, within a farmers field, overnight, with no visible access trails, and without the farmer seeing or hearing anything, and interwoven perfect stems...it just isn't possible !
Anyway, i am sure we will see a lot more complicated and brilliant designs in the next few years, and who knows, someone may capture one actually being formed sometime.

[thirdwave]

Exactly, there is no smoke without fire. I also agree about the orbs creating the circles.
I have read also that the patterns are being put in certain 'energy' spots (many around the stonehenge area), and they're put at these spots to help to 'anchor the new frequencies' which the earth is now receiving and absorbing.
The sensationalism on tv with the 2 men with the planks of wood was an ideal event for the 'powers that be' to simply make the people shrug off the idea that any crop circles are genuine, and it worked.
If you ask most people about crop circles, they will always remember the 2 guys with the planks of wood, and say "they're all faked"....but, when you actually study the subject, and realise that the 'genuine' crop circles actually interweave the corn stems in a uniform fashion, accurately interwoven and the stalks are bent but not snapped....also the electromagnetic energy within the circles is extremely high, and in fact causes the stems within the circle to grow faster and healthier than the unaffected stems in the same field.
Faked circles always contain snapped stems, and they're very untidy.
People do not know this, and dismiss crop circles as all hoaxes made by people with boards and rope .. .wrong !!
The designs have become more and more complex over the years, and time and time again they baffle even the most expert mathematicians as to how they could have been created, within a farmers field, overnight, with no visible access trails, and without the farmer seeing or hearing anything, and interwoven perfect stems...it just isn't possible !
Anyway, i am sure we will see a lot more complicated and brilliant designs in the next few years, and who knows, someone may capture one actually being formed sometime.


well the bottom line is that some of the crop circles have not got a explanation as to how humans created them ...so that for me is evidence enough... its just ignored... your right... they all appear around the Wiltshire airier, you can camp there in crop circle season... nice country pub with a camp site out the back "THE BARGE INN"... have a few beers and pub dinner and then go for a walk and feel the energy of the place... i love it and will defo be going again next year...

me and a friend lay in one at 2am.... was great.

most of them now are made my men, which is great for the debunkers, but some of them simply can be made by man... simple as that....

In Holland people have had orbs hit their windows... and left a powerful trace of magnesium there... also seen in many circles...

AND

some TREES around the airier are found bent much like how some of the crops are found.... not snapped but bent.

[mercuryrapids]

The WTC UFO footage was created as an ad clip for the Sci-Fi Channel in the US. It's not real.

[21_12_2012]

The WTC UFO footage was created as an ad clip for the Sci-Fi Channel in the US. It's not real.

Can you show me the exact page where it says this? Are you sure it is fake? From what I have seen and read about it, it is the real thing.

[mercuryrapids]

http://www.ufocasebook.com/wtcvideo.html

http://www.rense.com/general41/scihoax.htm (rense.com is down at the moment, though :rolleyes: )

http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.php/1/5/1966/853?

[21_12_2012]

http://www.ufocasebook.com/wtcvideo.html

http://www.rense.com/general41/scihoax.htm (rense.com is down at the moment, though :rolleyes: )

http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.php/1/5/1966/853?

Interesting stuff.
In my opinion though, if SCI-FI have anything to do with this footage (which it appears they do), then my opinion is that sci-fi might have bought it off whoever filmed it and 'hushed them up' about it's authenticity....who knows for certain...anyone can admit that it is a fake, even the people in the helicopter...also they can say it is real....i guess we'll never know for 100% certain.
It still looks 100% real to me !

[mercuryrapids]

Well, if the WTC UFO is real cos 'it looks real', then all the ones on this site must be real too, even though they admitted they were hoaxes (except one):

http://www.australianufowave.com/

edited for spelling... :)

[21_12_2012]

Well, if the WTC UFO is real cos 'it looks real', then all the ones on this site must be real too, even though they admitted they were hoaxes (except one):

http://www.australianufowave.com/

edited for spelling... :)

I don't know much at all about UFO's, but i do think most footage is faked. I have read and watched quite a bit of Billi Meier and seen the pictures and footage he has taken, and apparently he is for real and his encounters with the pleiadians.
The WTC footage and Billi Meier stuff are the only ones I have taken any real notice of.

[alchemist2012]

Can you show me the exact page where it says this? Are you sure it is fake? From what I have seen and read about it, it is the real thing.

It is fake! the lady on the movie is an atress, she confessed. I beliave the intire research is are at: RENSE.COM

[alchemist2012]

well the bottom line is that some of the crop circles have not got a explanation as to how humans created them ...so that for me is evidence enough... its just ignored... your right... they all appear around the Wiltshire airier, you can camp there in crop circle season... nice country pub with a camp site out the back "THE BARGE INN"... have a few beers and pub dinner and then go for a walk and feel the energy of the place... i love it and will defo be going again next year...

me and a friend lay in one at 2am.... was great.

most of them now are made my men, which is great for the debunkers, but some of them simply can be made by man... simple as that....

In Holland people have had orbs hit their windows... and left a powerful trace of magnesium there... also seen in many circles...

AND

some TREES around the airier are found bent much like how some of the crops are found.... not snapped but bent.

In my country, Brazil, people from the farm were saying that some type of disc object landed there, so the reporters went there and they showed in TV that the vegetation were burned from the inside!!! So in analise they conclueded that the vegetation were exposed by microwave radiation ON THE FARM!!!. ( just some info in case anybody still doubt ufos) I know who they are. none beliaves me anyway. peace and love .

[mercuryrapids]

I don't know much at all about UFO's, but i do think most footage is faked. I have read and watched quite a bit of Billi Meier and seen the pictures and footage he has taken, and apparently he is for real and his encounters with the pleiadians.
The WTC footage and Billi Meier stuff are the only ones I have taken any real notice of.

Well for the only two you've looked at, you've picked two hoaxes... lol. While Meier's proponents laud his 'prophecies' and his photographs and film of the so-called beam ships, claiming they are unfakable, they have been shown to be nothing of the sort. A decent search on the web or through serious UFO literature will show Meier's deception. Analysis of photos have shown strings or lines holding his UFOs up and a photograph of a model on a table was even unearthed. Of course, his supporters claim these are plants to incriminate Meier... :rolleyes:

There are many, many much better cases to study: The Rendlesham Forest Incident, The Cash-Landrum Incident and many others.

[21_12_2012]

Well for the only two you've looked at, you've picked two hoaxes... lol. While Meier's proponents laud his 'prophecies' and his photographs and film of the so-called beam ships, claiming they are unfakable, they have been shown to be nothing of the sort. A decent search on the web or through serious UFO literature will show Meier's deception. Analysis of photos have shown strings or lines holding his UFOs up and a photograph of a model on a table was even unearthed. Of course, his supporters claim these are plants to incriminate Meier... :rolleyes:

There are many, many much better cases to study: The Rendlesham Forest Incident, The Cash-Landrum Incident and many others.

Well, I doubt you or anyone else can say for sure that both the WTC footage, or Billi Meier are hoaxes.
In fact, if you look at the evidence, it is quite the contrary.
This is the web page i examined a while ago, and the questions and statements on here are very valid indeed.
http://www.checktheevidence.com/Disclosure/Web%20Pages/24%207%20News%20Net%20-%20SciFi%20Channel%20caught%20in%20UFO%20HOAX!.htm

It covers questions and statements which nobody can answer, let alone the people calling this footage 'a fake' ....:-

How did Barbara Sicuranza just happen to point exactly to the spot where an infamous image would be caught on 911 of a plane hitting the location where the UFO appears in the video.

Is it really Barbara Sicuranza in the footage?

Why would SciFi PAY to film a video clip where the actress says "Is it a Blimp"?

Is the video a REAL SIGHTING where Sicuranza thought the stationary UFO was a Blimp?

Has anyone influenced Sicuranza to now state the UFO in the video was a production?

If the towers were not there (a post 911 production) then SciFi has created a SICK HOAX with even the Towers "Dropped Into the Effect".

A special effects expert who was quoted on a major UFO site last year about the video when it first appeared, claimed the video appeared to be authentic due to the way the UFO and the Towers had the same pixelation in the video clip.

If the SciFi video is indeed post 911, then the question needs to be asked, why has SciFi spent so much money to fund a hoax? The reputation of the SciFi channel is now completely harmed if the claims are true. SciFi airs many works that claim to be unbiased looks at UFOS and other para things. Would SciFi manufacture such a hoax after 911? Has SciFi even publicly admitted the video is a hoax?

Jeff Rense is often said to be a GOVERNMENT UFO DISINFO AGENT.

Jeff Rense started pushing the SciFi UFO clip on his site last year.

Jeff Rense is now promoting the Sicuranza story as THE TRUTH!

Have the powers that be put pressure on Sicuranza to come out of the shadows and put a HOAX SPIN on the whole story since so many BELIEVE the sighting was real?

It will be interesting to see if SciFi verifies the claims of Sicuranza.

If they do, then where is the cameraman who shot the video?

Where are the other "Actors" if it was a hoax?

Where's copies of checks paid to the "Actors"?

If the other "Actors" are not really Actors like Sicuranza, then perhaps no one will ever know the truth.

[21_12_2012]

Regarding Billy Meier, I would like to see anybody prove that this guy is a hoax, other than people saying "he is a hoax...there are strings on the ufo's" blah blah...i have yet to see this....disinformation is rife in the UFO world
People need to watch videos of this man, and the people who know him, before they make snap judgements about him.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7568859204834119297&q=billy+meier+duration%3Along - The Billy Meier case re-opened - 5 1/2 hours

[wizard]

"But, the WTC video of the UFO is real enough.
When I first saw it I thought it looked a bit suspicious with the 'trail' it leaves behind as it shoots into the air, but the trail is actually a vapour trail which is left behind when an object hits supersonic speed."

on the first few viewings i thought it was amazing, but on further viewings i started to have my doubts. It soon came to light that the woman in the clip is a tv actress. And the whole clip is just too smooth. It does look good though.

[wizard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPR1yI3XSI&mode=related&search=

:eek:

[21_12_2012]

It soon came to light that the woman in the clip is a tv actress.

So 'they' tell us.

Still doesn't explain the points I have included above....and if you visit the webpage link i provided, does it look to you as if the so-called actress and the actual woman in the helicopter are the same people?
People can say what they like...like i said...disinformation is RIFE in the UFO community.
I'd like to see any proof whatsoever that the WTC video is faked, apart from people (and the sci-fi channel) saying "it's a fake..it's an actress"
Personally, I would not trust one word that came from anyones mouth who worked for the sci-fi channel, or in fact has anything to do with the sci-fi channel.

[mercuryrapids]

21 12 2012, I respect your right to believe what you wish, but (in my experience) the majority of ufologists (not all, mind you)think that Meier is a fraud, at least where his photographs are concerned.

I wrote an article about Meier that appeared in UFOData Magazine that can also be found on my website ( http://www.mercuryrapids.co.uk/articles5.htm#pleiadianhoax06102006 ). Maybe he has been in contact with extraterrestrials, but his evidence often doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

As for the WTC UFO, it was filmed before 9/11 (July, 2000 apparently), so an accusation about it being sick are a bit much. I'm sure I recall seeing it on the web before September 11th, 2001. Hey, if it turned out to be genuine, I'd be more than happy, but it appears that it's not.

[21_12_2012]

21 12 2012, I respect your right to believe what you wish, but (in my experience) the majority of ufologists (not all, mind you)think that Meier is a fraud, at least where his photographs are concerned.
Debunkers in my opinion (but we will never know either way)

Maybe he has been in contact with extraterrestrials, but his evidence often doesn't stand up to scrutiny
Debunkers (again) in my opinion. But again, we shall never know either way.

As for the WTC UFO, it was filmed before 9/11 (July, 2000 apparently), so an accusation about it being sick are a bit much. I'm sure I recall seeing it on the web before September 11th, 2001. Hey, if it turned out to be genuine, I'd be more than happy, but it appears that it's not.
Again, no proof of it being a fake, so we shall never know either way.

It's one reason i never really got into UFO-related material, too much debunking and hoaxing going on in that area, I suppose at the end of the day it is a subject which is open to hoaxing and debunking more than any other i should imagine.
Although i did study Billy Meiers-related material for a while, and (to me) it all appeared authentic. I fully believe him anyway.

[mercuryrapids]

You say there's too much debunking and hoaxing in ufology, but how does one find out about a hoax unless one debunks it? :)

Healthy skepticism is what is needed. Look at each case on its merits and if you (or I, or anybody lol) thinks it's a hoax or a misidentification, don't be afraid to say so. The same applies if you think it's a genuinely anomalous incident or if you just don't know...

Honesty is always the best policy in my experience. :)

[seamus]

How did Barbara Sicuranza just happen to point exactly to the spot where an infamous image would be caught on 911 of a plane hitting the location where the UFO appears in the video.

easy. it was a planned sighting. scripted. timed to a T. That is, the ones in charge made this real sighting happen, and there may well have been a script for the actors and cameraman. (who has reflexes like that?)
Is it really Barbara Sicuranza in the footage?

Why would SciFi PAY to film a video clip where the actress says "Is it a Blimp"?
as to whether that's barbara, i can't recall looking at her picture overlong. I think the two look a lot alike. May be the same person. But it's a red herring either way.

they put the blimp line in there because they expect people to ask that question, adding credence to the video, but nothing of substance. Build the straw man higher so when he falls he falls hard.

A special effects expert who was quoted on a major UFO site last year about the video when it first appeared, claimed the video appeared to be authentic due to the way the UFO and the Towers had the same pixelation in the video clip.

If the SciFi video is indeed post 911, then the question needs to be asked, why has SciFi spent so much money to fund a hoax? The reputation of the SciFi channel is now completely harmed if the claims are true. SciFi airs many works that claim to be unbiased looks at UFOS and other para things. Would SciFi manufacture such a hoax after 911? Has SciFi even publicly admitted the video is a hoax? all red herring.

check out this video and you will see a segment on the UFO. watch the clip where the second jet hits several times to really get it. A UFO was there. Some sites show several UFOs approaching the towers alongside the second jet. That's not shown in this clip.


Jeff Rense is often said to be a GOVERNMENT UFO DISINFO AGENT.

Jeff Rense started pushing the SciFi UFO clip on his site last year.

Jeff Rense is now promoting the Sicuranza story as THE TRUTH! Yeah my take is that Rense is a shill, like Alex Jones, whose main function is to foster fear, not empowerment.
Have the powers that be put pressure on Sicuranza to come out of the shadows and put a HOAX SPIN on the whole story since so many BELIEVE the sighting was real? No the whole thing was planned. 13 (think masonic) months before 9/11

It will be interesting to see if SciFi verifies the claims of Sicuranza.

If they do, then where is the cameraman who shot the video?

Where are the other "Actors" if it was a hoax?

Where's copies of checks paid to the "Actors"?

If the other "Actors" are not really Actors like Sicuranza, then perhaps no one will ever know the truth. No one will, except that you have to free yo' mind, as the old song goes. It does no good to focus on one small facet of "the movie". You have to try to see the hands behind the screen moving the shadow puppets around. It's enough to see the sticks, really.


;)

s

[21_12_2012]

You say there's too much debunking and hoaxing in ufology, but how does one find out about a hoax unless one debunks it? :)

Healthy skepticism is what is needed. Look at each case on its merits and if you (or I, or anybody lol) thinks it's a hoax or a misidentification, don't be afraid to say so. The same applies if you think it's a genuinely anomalous incident or if you just don't know...

Honesty is always the best policy in my experience. :)

I agree, i should have written "there's too much disinformation around in the UFO world"....but...saying that....there's too much disinformation in all 'conspiracy-related' fields !
I am more 'into' crop-circles, basically because the 'faked' ones are easy to spot, the stems are untidy, stems are snapped, not interwined and contain no electromagnetic energy within them.
The real circles defy all logic as to how they can be created within a field, overnight, with no visible entry or exit marks, with nobody seeing or hearing anything during the night, forming patterns that defy mathematicians, perfectly interwoven stems (and not snapped), and full of electromagnetic energy and mathematically perfect!

[seamus]

I have done reversals on the audio of this clip and found "barbara" saying,

"We're going get a peek" (before the ufo shows up) among other things.

I mean it's really stupid. She's like: wow is that the world trade center?
She was not being real.



shucks can't remember the other stuff. But when I heard that one, after seeing this clip on google video the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I said to myself, "she knew! she knew this was going to happen!":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950

there's a high quality version on torrent called "illuminati mini-documentary"

high quality video i mean. This guy obviously can't spell.

sorry forgot to provide link in previous post.

s

[21_12_2012]

I have done reversals on the audio of this clip and found "barbara" saying,

"We're going get a peek" (before the ufo shows up) among other things.

I mean it's really stupid. She's like: wow is that the world trade center?
She was not being real.



shucks can't remember the other stuff. But when I heard that one, after seeing this clip on google video the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I said to myself, "she knew! she knew this was going to happen!":

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950

there's a high quality version on torrent called "illuminati mini-documentary"

high quality video i mean. This guy obviously can't spell.

sorry forgot to provide link in previous post.

s

Great info...still looks real to me though.

[seamus]

That's just it, man! It WAS real! It was an appointment!

[21_12_2012]

That's just it, man! It WAS real! It was an appointment!

Well, i watched the 'mini documentary" and now i am confused!

[seamus]

they are saying that whoever controls the UFOs had something to do with or knew about 9/11 waaayyy ahead of time, that's all.

s

[21_12_2012]

they are saying that whoever controls the UFOs had something to do with or knew about 9/11 waaayyy ahead of time, that's all.

s

Now I'm with you !
Thanks for the info.

[misscpb]

I love some of the formations of crop circles. I truly believe that some of the most wonderful and complex designs come from other beings. I also believe that there are some hoaxers around.

I remember watching a documentary about people who go into crop circles with compass's and magnets etc that act very strange, then the minute they are outside the circle (if its genuine) it returns to normal. Yet when they visited other suspicious man made ones nothing happened.

I would like to visit the area's around Stonehenge when its the crop circle time of year sometime.

[21_12_2012]

I love some of the formations of crop circles. I truly believe that some of the most wonderful and complex designs come from other beings. I also believe that there are some hoaxers around.

I remember watching a documentary about people who go into crop circles with compass's and magnets etc that act very strange, then the minute they are outside the circle (if its genuine) it returns to normal. Yet when they visited other suspicious man made ones nothing happened.

I would like to visit the area's around Stonehenge when its the crop circle time of year sometime.

Yes, i have wanted to go down there for a couple of years now, but never got round to it yet...maybe next summer !
I would very much like to meditate within a circle, the energy is supposedly very beautiful.

[tinmenace]

Far from being a UFO expert, the malasia one looks to me like it could have easily been faked. I have never seen that one before.

Yes, anything is possible, but when you slow it down, look what happens at the end.... I know this kind of stuff can be recreated, but it's pretty impressive.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/malaysiaufo.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/malaysiaufo2.jpg

There seems to be one more image that I just cannot seem to capture using the pause-and-play method. Maybe someone else has better luck.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/malaysiaufo4.jpg

[21_12_2012]

Yes, anything is possible, but when you slow it down, look what happens at the end.... I know this kind of stuff can be recreated, but it's pretty impressive.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/malaysiaufo.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/malaysiaufo2.jpg

There seems to be one more image that I just cannot seem to capture using the pause-and-play method. Maybe someone else has better luck.

Actually, I have seen this Malasia footage, a friend last year showed it me, and, as i say, not being 'into' UFO's in any big way at all, i cannot begin to say whether or not this footage is real...i suppose you have to go with your 'gut feeling' with a lot of UFO footage.
When i saw the lights around the ship and then the disappearance of it, i did actually feel like this footage was real when i first saw it last year, and now you have reminded me of it again, i still think it could be real now.
The big question is, if it is real, and some of the other thousands of UFOs caught on film, WHY ARE THEY HERE ? and WHY are they just flying around and not giving us signs/help/proper contact?
It is frustrating !!! And that is another reason I did not 'get into' UFO study, because it is frustrating.

[deca]

http://www.darkgovernment.com/tr3b.html

[tinmenace]

Just one more curiosity about this film clip.... the date. The numbers add up to 8/8/8

Would you please read my thread about the 1984 Olympics...and tell me what you think. Still under the UFO category.

[tinmenace]

WHY ARE THEY HERE ? and WHY are they just flying around and not giving us signs/help/proper contact?
.

That's an excellent question, and I cannot say that I have any answers that are even remotely logical. Maybe it's not alien craft. Maybe it's something being used by people right here amongst us...and the laugh is on us. Who knows? :confused: