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deca

09-02-2007, 12:59 PM

check this link its in your paper people have to Wake up to mind control electronic harrasment its real and been done for years on thousands of people around the world remember that goverment and mod are at least 10years ahead think where this tech will be in ten years and thats right its on your door step now !!!!!!!
mind control electronic harrasment

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html

lookfar

09-02-2007, 01:34 PM

Scary stuff eh! Although it would be interesting if used on members of the establishment - that could be very eye opening:)

mari

09-02-2007, 02:23 PM

That does it! I'm definately off to the hills..........

markhowie

09-02-2007, 03:08 PM

Is this reality true for you...
Do you belive it...
What power dose it have over you...
What power do you want to give it...
What do you have to hide..
Where is the fear....
(was it not bob marley that said you cannot run away from youself)

Take back your power
[URL="http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619"/URL]

the definition of absolut truth would be (if it existed)
"all that is, was, will be, and could possibly be anywhere and anywhen."

as the collective memory returns
love to all that is
@+mark

melbo

09-02-2007, 06:42 PM

bloody hell, talk about thought police.....

deca

09-02-2007, 06:56 PM

that last article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html)
was on the cover of todays guardian new paper uk 9/2/07

but check out
http://www.truefacts.co.uk/articles/Mind01.html

just do some googles on mind control or electronic harrasment

we need to put a stop to this or some controls on this !!!!!!

markhowie

09-02-2007, 07:20 PM

Aloha
thatcher used ultrasonic devices on the peace mouvements in the early 80's
at greenham common, wimen who where pregnant could not stay there.... many people on different sites got real bad head aches...
on certain sites after a passage of a helicopter within a few days we would have an out-break of some sort of sheeps skine dis-ease like "orff" (streptococcus).
So whats new....???
The first tests with flouride were done on the gypsy and homosexual prisoners in 1929....
I think there is only one way out of this "merdier"
thats a collective shamanique way

@+ mark

unicorn

09-02-2007, 07:36 PM

Thought police... my thoughts exactly! I recon this is what the reason for TETRA masts is, seeing as their frequency is the same Hz as brainwaves. Hurrah! Whenever I drive past the masts on the motorway I imagine white light surrounded by black light enveloping them (with the intent of blocking all detrimental vibrations) , & i can hear the frequency shift big time, followed by the controllerd going nuts wondering what's happening to the masts!!

deca

10-02-2007, 03:53 AM

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/part_1.html#links

teslafire

10-02-2007, 05:00 AM

Psychotronic & Demonic Torment-
Understanding the Attack and How to Thwart It

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/houndsofheavenoct91.shtml

Here's a good one. Its not often you hear demon and high electronic tech mentioned in the same breath, but I think it has interesting implications about the nature of electricity and knowing that gives some hope for consciousness as the ultimate astral shield.

deca

10-02-2007, 05:16 AM

go here www.lessemf.com buy a base ball cap and a qlink thease things can help

unicorn

10-02-2007, 02:36 PM

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/part_1.html#links

Wow, what an awesome website. How little I knew about echelon... here in the UK... Recommend reading this page from the website, on the underground projects which answer the powerful question 'where the fuck is all our money going?'... http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/philschnder.html

This is getting me sooo fired up... :mad: what more can we all do to stop this madness right now? I think everbody should stop going to work (well, all the sheeple type jobs anyway) together, stop trading using money, & watch the entire system collapse. As long as we keep on fueling this surge of evil, they'll keep on with the attrocities! Bin those credit cards, stop repaying debt ( illuminati coining in even more of our money!!), stop using banks, stop shopping at illuminati controlled stores, all storm in together to hold these asses accountable & put an end to it all. Anyone up for it!! Or got any better ideas... (remember love, remember love, remember love... :rolleyes: )

deca

10-02-2007, 02:43 PM

yep they are bastards

but if you say anything you are classed as a crazy and locked up......

I know been in a mently ward twice ...your paranoid its in your mind.

Wake up people see the big picture here
if they can read our brain intentions how long before they what to send out a signal to correct our bad intentions.
Remember our brain is a electrical devices after we map out what in outputs want we just try to input similar signals into it.
Get this you are pot less needing some money brain scanner picks this up that you are thinking of mugging or robbing next moment a signal is sent out telling you its a bad idea you don t bother and you carry on with your day... wouldn't this sort of system be sold to our leaders thinking how they can stop crime before it happens.
Think about this you want to up grade your satellite/cable box you phone them up pay them next minute a upgrade signal is beamed out.
Same as the mobile phone system that is around the world
How long do you think after we make a brain reader that somebody would invent a brain writer...

sunstone

10-02-2007, 03:05 PM

That does it! I'm definately off to the hills..........

As a matter of interest my husband is working away out in the back of beyond at 2/3000ft high, with no communication with the outside world only the guys that he works with, no TV, no Phone signal etc. Reason Im mentioning this is he has said lately that when he comes back down to planet earth {in amongst the maddening crowds so to speak } he feels depressed! :confused: Im worried that the longer hes "up" there the harder its going to be to live in the "real world" when his job is finnished. Just goes to show how much we are bombarded with EMF of one kind and another and the effect they are having on us, up in the hills the energy must be so pure and clear!

deca

10-02-2007, 03:33 PM

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/

deca

10-02-2007, 03:55 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5167938.stm

deca

10-02-2007, 04:07 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm

unicorn

10-02-2007, 04:29 PM

Thanks Deca, awesome links, good ol' bbc, how generous to share this info with us humbles!

How long do you think after we make a brain reader that somebody would invent a brain writer... Ta Da!! Proudly presenting TETRA, which just happens to have the same frequency as our brains, & is pulsing 24 hrs every day & night. Sigh.

deca

10-02-2007, 04:41 PM

they piggy back there mind control via tetra mast ....
its so no one can detected there operation...

edelweiss pirate

10-02-2007, 06:36 PM

It can actually be more harmful to believe in something that doesn't exist than to not believe in something that does exist..

I speak from personaly exp.. Nearly got sucked into the builders (illumie. div.) but managed to break the mind control ( a result of humans, stress situations and occult practices) there may have been tech involved but I'm not convinced...

Anyway, broke free of the programming but some time ago found myself on the point of going back into trance, feeling hot, losing control of thoughts, panic etc... heard a funny noise and felt convinced I was being targetted by microwaves... I actually felt the documented 'effects'. It took a lot of strength to investigate the source of the noise and take it on... Actually it turned out to be a heating system which kept on turning on and off with a high pitch whine...

If you live in fear of being microwaved sooner or later you will manifest the symptoms whether you are being targetted or not.. Especially if you have already been a victim of Mind Control... easy with it...

Anyway, I reckon our mind can beat anything as long as we don't start getting 'afraid' then we're done for... fear IS the mind killer..

unicorn

10-02-2007, 07:21 PM

Anyway, I reckon our mind can beat anything as long as we don't start getting 'afraid' then we're done for... fear IS the mind killer..

Well said. I feel safe in the knowledge that I can easily protect myself from anything that they throw (maybe a bit more practice needed at stopping bullets with my mind!! :D ) be it mind control, TETRA, jabs etc... but you need faith & knowledge to have this trust, & most people do not believe in their divine abilities... WE ARE ALL PRIME CREATOR and as such can be all that we can imagine

21 12 2012, mass consciousness, bit of a mind boggler, innit??!! :rolleyes:

deca

10-02-2007, 07:24 PM

never heard of it before i was attacked...I still under attack even now as I write
the bastards that do this know that they are not going to get caught....people just don`t belive easier to write you off as a paranoid LOONEY

edelweiss pirate

11-02-2007, 05:34 PM

What makes you feel you're being harrassed?

deca

11-02-2007, 05:59 PM

said to much already I am a sitting duck
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/part_1.html#links

unicorn

11-02-2007, 06:27 PM

Deca, hope you're putting up some protection (intent or other) to block this.
:confused:

deca

11-02-2007, 07:23 PM

got this hat
from hear
http://www.handy-fashions.com/e-index.html
and this one
SHIELDED CAP
SilverTex Suit
from
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
plus a qlink a white one
http://www.qlinkworld.co.uk/index.html
and I earth myself when I sleep
I am also waiting on my paint from hear
http://www.siin.com/products.html
plus I have a emf detector
i have the enzone that i got of ebay
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/science/emf-detectors.htm
they have turned it down since I got the meter I keep checking and if they turn it up I start filming and they don`t wont 2 get cought and turn it down
they know if i have no proof I am a crazy
I know If i have proof that am a danger to them
also have the Body Voltage Accessory
+DMM with PC Interface from lessemf
plus have
Silver Bobbinet http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp
and head net
but they only dampen there signals
have you got any ideas to block there signals?

edelweiss pirate

11-02-2007, 07:45 PM

They're trying to scare you. If you get scared you're in trouble. No fear no threat.

Ask yourself what do you fear? You certainly won't be killed.. unless you lose your head so much you walk under a bus (careful)..

Remove the stress. Leave the situation. Leave the job, wierd friends, flat... whatever the source is leave it.

You need to control your thoughts and find peace. Easier said than done I know. Try getting fit, go running, push ups, Get fit get strong. Walk along the street with your fave tunes and don't give a fuck. Get your energy up then they can't get to you...

If you're weak and sapped then and ONLY then you're a sitting duck.

Book a holiday... Have a J. do something you enjoy. See your mum.. Talk to your best friends about it... You can beat this shit.

unicorn

11-02-2007, 07:55 PM

Wow! What an entourage of gear! All I use is a copper diode / isolator (designed by Andre Puharich) which I make myself (easy & cheap) & wear under my watch, which protects me from radiation.

I also use harmonics to protect myself, as taught by the late Brian Jenner ( a dude who undoes damage from vaccines, HAARP, radiation, emotional stress etc...) who had the brainwave of using harmonics (as inspired by Bruce Cathy) & fractals for permanent & infinite possibilites (like blocking electrical stress from metal fillings, which interferes with the body's bioelectromagnetic communication) in restoring health.

If you're into dowsing, or (as I prefer) muscle testing, muscle test yourself for the 'optimum 12-digit harmonic to block ALL detrimental interference from whatever source', then get each number in turn until you have 12. Then put your fingers on your forehead (above each eye, between eyebrow & hairline) & say aloud to your body 'I now fully accept this harmonic for the total internal & external protection of my mind/body/energy field - say harmonic 3 times'. You can also print it off & keep it in your pocket, stick it on your bed etc... ;) (to see a diagram of re-programming your body to health, see http://www.qvkhealing.com/self-healing.htm)

Not forgetting a shield of intended white light with a deflective outer layer that either sends detrimental energy back to it's source (he he hee!) or transmutes it, whichever is for the highest good of all (not forgetting the love part!!)

Hope it helps! :o

deca

11-02-2007, 10:14 PM

they can attack your body parts hart arms legs .... like to make you blink to.
ps
hope the they don`t start to spam this forum.

deca

11-02-2007, 10:21 PM

do you normal get a load of rude post ?

edelweiss pirate

11-02-2007, 11:02 PM

The attention you're getting is because you are potentially dangerous to them. It's time to stop being afraid and start astrally kicking the living shit out of them.

Equip yourself with astral weapons. Try to see the positive side of this and realise that they are giving you and us a heck of a lot of information. I am sure you are also gaining information as a result of your state.

Personally I can conjure etheric fire (a gift from an imaginary fire God I met once) and I fired flaming arrows at any humans who tried (they don't bother me anymore) to molest me psychically.

It may sound like dungeons and dragons nuttiness but the etheric realm is where we really live... this material world is just the surface layer of reality..

Nowadays because of training my will I can do some really cool things.

If you're having trouble with fear you can practice visualising your fear as a lever switch in your mind which you can pull down to turn it off. You may encounter resistance initially but stick with it and you mind will get used to request and will cut down on the fear..

Time to start fighting back... Those guys are the baddies and they know it.. their fear is so much stronger than yours, capitalise on this fact.

deca

11-02-2007, 11:15 PM

Its hard to keep my mind focused they can change my mind brain wave state .block my thoughts replace them with theres feed back my own thoughts a different times. play into my wild fantaises trying to make my sense of realty screwed up and hard to function as a human. its amazing what they can do but what do they use it for abuse and cover ups control..not helping people....yeah its MI5 the bully boys of the elite ...fuck they all go to the same schools...if there any MI5 preps on here we are on you a can see write throw your shite............
http://www.mi5.com/
think you made this guy too sugestable !!!!!!!!

edelweiss pirate

12-02-2007, 12:16 AM

Do you get much sleep? You need to sleep well which strengthens the mind. There is no excuse for not sleeping as long as skunk is available. If you can't sleep get stoned...

Do you live alone or with others? If with others then perhaps there is some funny business going on with your flat mates.. It was the case with me anyways...

You sound like a classic victim of mind control. You need to work very hard at focussing your mind. Get a couple of 3/4 days away someone to break the spell. Relax and really enjoy yourself. They won't follow you unless you believe they will. We really do create our own reality and when we start believing in portable microwave weapons we create a very harmful reality where anyone and everyone could be using weapons on us. Try to break this spell. Cease to believe in the weapons and the frequencies and all the rest of it. They can really only harm you if you believe they are real because remember everything here is an illusion.

Picture an object in your mind, try to keep it there. It will fade or transform into something else. Keep at it. After a few days your concentration will be stronger and you will have more control over your mind AND hence your reality.

PM me if you want to.

deca

12-02-2007, 12:39 AM

demonsnare

12-02-2007, 01:08 AM

I have had problems with feds using cars and heavily buitl agents to try and intimidate me..but then I stopped smoking the skunk...I only smoke naturally grown ganja if I have to...the connection being that some drugs like mdma and skunk are allowed to be circulated and sold by the police and the feds because it alters the users connection with the users higher self making them much more susceptible to elf mind control technology....so try not using drugs...dont drink flouride infested tap water...and stay away from fake organic chemically enhanced tinned food from major supermarkets.....and above all...dont be afraid....if youre not afraid then how can they touch you?they're just low level demons anyway.....embrace light and love and all demons will perish in that bright truthful light

deca

12-02-2007, 01:28 AM

I stop taken drugs a long time ago

used to smoke pot ,LSD and magic mushies in my teens

now in my thirtys newly divorced with a 6 year old

thought when this started I was having lsd flash backs or something knew there was something up. I know myself pretty well

I was working nights at the time in some boring factory job when this started
became sugesable at first getting funny thoughts out of the blue ...thought the people on tv were speaking to me personaly written letters words and signs had coded hinded messages ...then the voices started they acted like police saying they were the emargancy services and I was blocking there signal ..thats the voices in my head.. but know I have found out about mind control electronic harrassment my life got much better...its all well documented the effects of mc
I am still scared to talk about this and whats happend to me.
think most mc victoms are

seamus

12-02-2007, 10:12 AM

If you have phone tower problems, you need to get gifting. Make or buy some orgonite and gift the DOR out of that tower.

s

P.S. and carry some on your person while you're at it

edelweiss pirate

12-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Edelweiss I think you are very good loving person and have my best wishes at heart ...yep I sound like an over stressed paraniod looney I would before I got attacked monitored hooked up ...its done through mobile phone mast the whole of the uk is coverd plus most of the world and they probley use satilites to..because its an invisably to people around me even in the street ....you see you try explain this and it sounds like evertbody out to get you...dam I am in contack with other mc victoms theres plenty..now just please be open minded about this and try to spread the word and the links. Thanks

I'm taking an interest because I have been a victim of mind control. I tried to make that clear. There are ways to fight this thing and actually come out of it with the upper hand. I just suggested what worked for me. What started it all off for you? obviously I don't know enough about your particular case to know exactly how to help you. There is always a way out of every situation, that applies equally to mind control, satanic possession. Maybe you have to search inside yourself for the answer. This may sound callous but try to stop being a victim.. Believe in your self and fight back. No amount of mere metal towers and frequencies can actually steal our soul.. do you really believe they can? Maybe the belief you're pouring into their system is not helping you to free yourself.

I will refrain from sending out those links because I believe that if you invest something with fear and belief then it becomes powerful. I was once a victim of sincere human occult mind control but later I found myself lapsing into the same trance because I believed I was being zapped by microwaves, it turned out to be utter nonsense, it was merely a heating system making a funny noise. I then learned the power of fear and belief. The stuff about tetra masts may be a fear virus that will have everybody in their rooms quaking with fear and powerless to do anything to stop these invisible signals.

Fear comes from within not from without and fear is the name of the game.

The final word: Meditation. Thought control. Learn to control your thought. Put an instant block on any thoughts you do not want, blank your mind. Visualise. Takes time but it's worth it.

deca

12-02-2007, 01:50 PM

hmm the people that are doing this to me are real somedays I have good conversations with them throu thought ....at first they hid there actions in heating pipes the wind background noise...think I figured it out or was shouting
back at them..making a scene and making up wierd thoughts to explain what was happening e.g aliens ...plus they made out I was an indestruckable robot and I attacked somebody for no reson I got done for that wich is out of charactor for me....most of the time the tell me to move and keep quite.
not sure whats goning to happen that I have started on internet making this known . Yep they attack my will, amp my bad thougts. Hummor has been good for me plus arguing my case why this bad for humanity...i have won that one and it pisses them off.
I going to look a orgonite...
my qlink helps a bit.

edelweiss pirate

12-02-2007, 02:08 PM

What you are suffering from is schizophrenia... Or schiz-gnostic illumination as I call it.

People have been suffering from this for thousands of years and is the cornerstone of the secret society method for discovering unknown facts about this world and the next.

But they didn't have Tetra masts and mobile phones back in those days. Nor do they have them in remote shamanic communities where schizophrenia is known as 'shaman's illness'...

I cannot tell you who you are really talking to. It may be yourself, it may be aliens (demons?)... I don't know. I could never figure it out myself either.

I just think it's worth being aware that what you're going through has been around a very long time...

deca

12-02-2007, 02:22 PM

yep most mc victoms get writen offed as having schizophrenia. The sad fact hell
before this happened to me I thought the same way you here voices in your head your mad.. thats it there is no way that people could here or interact with your thoughts directly...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4715327.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4472355.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm

watch the implant in action video on right hand side
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5167938.stm

what if they reverse this computer to implant to brain are we part of the borg?

please check some off the other links .....even mokeys can play games using thought allown and control robot arms hundreds of miles away
this tetra system is a work of guinuss paid by us gives us nice mobile phones
part of the emergency services who would question it?

edelweiss pirate

12-02-2007, 02:35 PM

But what is mad?

I've been researching this field for a long time and nearly joined the illuminati myself. I have no hesitation in saying that I was suffering from stress induced schizophrenia, which can also be called enlightenment or illumination.

It is clear to me Deco that you are 'illuminated' you have all the symptoms, you're talking to spirits, your thought processes are accelerated. Do you feel that you are 'vibrating' at an increased rate? Do you find it hard/impossible to sleep?

What I would like to know is have you ever been involved in anything 'strange'..odd people, secret societies etc.. or are you entirely 'self initiated'.

If the latter it tells me that the Mason's dream of a 'mass global enlightenment' is being carried out.... I have met many people in your situation, many of them bloodline people who have actually sees alien vessels on their land...

It's a big mystery and I don't have all the answers.. just a piece of the puzzle just like you do... If we put the pieces together we could get somewhere to find what is really going on....

You may be right about the tech but that still does not explain why the same phenomenon has been going on for thousands of years... it used to be called possession by demons and was the realm of wizards and wise men...

deca

12-02-2007, 02:56 PM

You got to remember as I speak emfs/elf are beamed into my head wich change my thought process, transmit voices, pic up my thoughts , change my brain waves , send images thoughts back to me and thats what my concious pics up god knows what my unconcious gets..allso parts of my body gets electric shocks e.g hart limbs... they also can make me repeatly blink wiggle my head... when thay had me belive I was a robot...they used to get me to bang my head agaist a wall...yep thought I had an implant in my head/bomb ...This must sound
strange put you know your brain can play funny tricks on you...they played along with what I thought or tried to explain to myself what was happening...why me what was special about me...was I some kind of secret goverment robot experament...yep they got me to bang my head agaist the wall
until a relized i was human and not a robot...This was all before I found about electronic harrassment...the gov wants a minorty report machine in place...to stop crime...punish people in there homes..ect

unicorn

12-02-2007, 08:17 PM

You may be right about the tech but that still does not explain why the same phenomenon has been going on for thousands of years... it used to be called possession by demons and was the realm of wizards and wise men...

Entity possession... a very real phenomina. I was about to ask Deca if you are sure that you are cleared from possessions as more people than not are affected by hangers on, lost spirits, demonic spirits, alien implants etc... Most are mild & not that noticable, but there are very persitent entities with a desire to control the body which is against 'cosmic law' as no-one is allowed to interefere with your Divine Sovereign Being!

deca

12-02-2007, 08:22 PM

its MI5.... and they do play games and try and trick you....thay have voice changers
to freek you out...they act like devil...god....doctors...police...your friends..
then blast you so it knocks you out...wake up dudes
they have the tech.....

edelweiss pirate

13-02-2007, 12:40 PM

My personal belief is that illumination plugs you into a joint reality collective where fellow members can read each others' minds, and find their thoughts converging along the same lines. Their individual acts seem to be like instruments in an enormous orchestra... Who's conducting.. now that I couldn't tell you.... It could simply be the person with the most will power who with their thoughts 'navigates' a course through an artificial reality for all the brothers. This explains my personal experiences of being stalked around and bumping into people totally at random like two business suited fellows who turned around to me and shouted to me 'You can trust us!"... I used to get loads of weird stuff like that. Also how certain people seem to recognise something of the illumination in me and I them.... I can spot a mason soo easily... It's almost like smelling them..

I don't know... and this isn't new.. not at all... If there was some way you could test your theory one way or the other Deco.. to find if the cause is aliens your own infinite consciousness or indeed tech.. You have all those gizmos for a start... do they do anything....

What if you were to go somewhere underground... like a chruch crypt or something.. or go the mountains... there'd be no coverage there..

deca

13-02-2007, 02:00 PM

my e.l.f detector pic them up this help in 2 ways it proved I could detect them wich they lied about and they turn it down so my detector does not pic them up. Sometimes when under haivie attack they turn it up then I scan with detector.
They are always trying to break my will and blame me, gave me no hope, no one will belive you, its hopeless, you will have to do what I say, leave hear,try to panic me hurry up.
they also try and turn my thoughts against me.
They can suck your memmorys e.g bad experances, passwords, any sort of detail In fact the more you try and hide something the easier its for them to pic it up....
to sum it up they are trying to drive my mad or suicide none of wich I am goning do...
I just got my body voltage kit and I have a high reading on it
they block you cortex and bombard you when you a trying to learn about mc electronic harassment this also screws your vison and abilty to make sense of what you are learning.
plus as I said before I do belive they can cause me to have a hart attack
they do shock my hart now and then ...they just have
so I don`t want to be a threat to them

lord rothlizard

13-02-2007, 02:05 PM

deca

13-02-2007, 02:37 PM

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31 3.16 12:42:40:968 ACV V
32 0.056 12:42:41:468 ACV V
33 0.127 12:42:41:968 ACV V
34 2.917 12:42:42:468 ACV V
35 2.95 12:42:42:968 ACV V
36 2.994 12:42:43:468 ACV V
37 2.981 12:42:43:968 ACV V
38 2.98 12:42:44:468 ACV V
39 3.236 12:42:44:968 ACV V
40 6.011 12:42:45:468 ACV V
41 6.117 12:42:45:968 ACV V
42 3.764 12:42:46:468 ACV V
43 5.884 12:42:46:968 ACV V
44 5.97 12:42:47:968 ACV V
45 5.956 12:42:48:468 ACV V
46 5.971 12:42:48:968 ACV V
47 5.985 12:42:49:468 ACV V
48 4.014 12:42:49:968 ACV V
49 5.739 12:42:50:468 ACV V
50 5.767 12:42:50:968 ACV V
51 5.767 12:42:51:468 ACV V
52 5.614 12:42:51:968 ACV V
53 5.78 12:42:52:468 ACV V
54 5.363 12:42:52:968 ACV V
55 5.582 12:42:53:468 ACV V
56 5.602 12:42:53:968 ACV V
57 5.622 12:42:54:468 ACV V
58 5.6 12:42:54:968 ACV V
59 5.65 12:42:55:468 ACV V
60 4.891 12:42:55:968 ACV V
61 5.37 12:42:56:468 ACV V
62 5.812 12:42:56:968 ACV V
63 5.823 12:42:57:468 ACV V
64 5.835 12:42:57:968 ACV V
65 5.857 12:42:58:468 ACV V
66 5.886 12:42:58:968 ACV V
67 5.888 12:42:59:468 ACV V
68 5.902 12:42:59:968 ACV V
69 5.902 12:43:00:468 ACV V
70 5.892 12:43:00:968 ACV V
71 5.906 12:43:01:968 ACV V
72 5.895 12:43:02:468 ACV V
73 5.91 12:43:02:968 ACV V
74 5.909 12:43:03:468 ACV V
75 5.924 12:43:03:968 ACV V
76 5.913 12:43:04:468 ACV V
77 5.914 12:43:04:968 ACV V
78 5.928 12:43:05:468 ACV V
79 5.912 12:43:05:968 ACV V
80 5.903 12:43:06:468 ACV V
81 5.902 12:43:06:968 ACV V
82 5.937 12:43:07:468 ACV V
83 5.937 12:43:07:968 ACV V
84 5.945 12:43:08:468 ACV V
85 5.933 12:43:08:968 ACV V
86 5.934 12:43:09:468 ACV V
87 5.948 12:43:09:968 ACV V
88 5.947 12:43:10:468 ACV V
89 5.946 12:43:10:968 ACV V
90 5.945 12:43:11:468 ACV V
91 5.944 12:43:11:968 ACV V
92 5.943 12:43:12:468 ACV V
93 5.943 12:43:12:968 ACV V
94 5.943 12:43:13:468 ACV V
95 5.943 12:43:13:968 ACV V
96 5.941 12:43:14:468 ACV V
97 5.943 12:43:14:968 ACV V
98 5.942 12:43:15:968 ACV V
99 5.953 12:43:16:468 ACV V
100 5.936 12:43:16:968 ACV V
101 4.667 12:43:17:468 ACV V
102 4.744 12:43:17:968 ACV V
103 0.061 12:43:19:468 ACV V
104 0.062 12:43:19:968 ACV V
105 0.028 12:43:20:468 ACV V
from index 4 I hand my thumb on body kit
about 40 I stood up
103 I took thumb of

deca

13-02-2007, 02:56 PM

138
Index Value Time Unit
1 5.393 13:04:32:515 ACV V
2 5.171 13:04:33:15 ACV V
3 5.065 13:04:33:515 ACV V
4 5.285 13:04:34:15 ACV V
5 5.298 13:04:34:515 ACV V
6 4.12 13:04:35:15 ACV V
7 4.079 13:04:35:515 ACV V
8 3.363 13:04:36:15 ACV V
9 2.767 13:04:36:515 ACV V
10 3.206 13:04:37:15 ACV V
11 0.784 13:04:37:515 ACV V
12 0.411 13:04:38:15 ACV V
13 0.436 13:04:38:515 ACV V
14 0.436 13:04:39:15 ACV V
15 0.319 13:04:39:515 ACV V
16 0.346 13:04:40:15 ACV V
17 0.346 13:04:40:515 ACV V
18 0.348 13:04:41:15 ACV V
19 0.319 13:04:41:515 ACV V
20 0.346 13:04:42:515 ACV V
21 0.329 13:04:43:15 ACV V
22 0.345 13:04:43:515 ACV V
23 0.304 13:04:44:15 ACV V
24 0.335 13:04:44:515 ACV V
25 0.376 13:04:45:15 ACV V
26 0.347 13:04:45:515 ACV V
27 0.379 13:04:46:15 ACV V
28 0.33 13:04:46:515 ACV V
29 0.344 13:04:47:15 ACV V
30 0.344 13:04:47:515 ACV V
31 0.344 13:04:48:15 ACV V
32 0.359 13:04:48:515 ACV V
33 0.36 13:04:49:15 ACV V
34 0.359 13:04:49:515 ACV V
35 0.359 13:04:50:15 ACV V
36 0.358 13:04:51:15 ACV V
37 0.357 13:04:51:515 ACV V
38 0.355 13:04:52:15 ACV V
39 0.363 13:04:52:515 ACV V
40 0.323 13:04:53:15 ACV V
41 0.355 13:04:53:515 ACV V
42 0.365 13:04:54:15 ACV V
43 0.364 13:04:54:515 ACV V
44 0.353 13:04:55:15 ACV V
45 0.366 13:04:55:515 ACV V
46 0.366 13:04:56:515 ACV V
47 0.365 13:04:57:15 ACV V
48 0.355 13:04:57:515 ACV V
49 0.365 13:04:58:15 ACV V
50 0.364 13:04:58:515 ACV V
51 0.363 13:04:59:15 ACV V
52 0.362 13:04:59:515 ACV V
53 0.36 13:05:00:15 ACV V
54 0.366 13:05:00:515 ACV V
55 0.351 13:05:01:15 ACV V
56 0.35 13:05:01:515 ACV V
57 0.371 13:05:02:15 ACV V
58 0.682 13:05:02:515 ACV V
59 0.401 13:05:03:15 ACV V
60 0.344 13:05:03:515 ACV V
61 0.328 13:05:04:15 ACV V
62 0.367 13:05:05:15 ACV V
63 0.356 13:05:05:515 ACV V
64 0.554 13:05:06:15 ACV V
65 0.402 13:05:06:515 ACV V
66 0.362 13:05:07:15 ACV V
67 0.343 13:05:07:515 ACV V
68 0.344 13:05:08:15 ACV V
69 0.45 13:05:08:515 ACV V
70 0.339 13:05:09:15 ACV V
71 0.366 13:05:09:515 ACV V
72 0.365 13:05:10:15 ACV V
73 0.461 13:05:10:515 ACV V
74 0.365 13:05:11:15 ACV V
75 0.688 13:05:11:515 ACV V
76 0.379 13:05:12:15 ACV V
77 0.337 13:05:12:515 ACV V
78 0.362 13:05:13:15 ACV V
79 0.361 13:05:13:515 ACV V
80 0.36 13:05:14:15 ACV V
81 0.361 13:05:14:515 ACV V
82 0.639 13:05:15:15 ACV V
83 0.335 13:05:15:515 ACV V
84 0.508 13:05:16:15 ACV V
85 0.416 13:05:16:515 ACV V
86 0.533 13:05:17:15 ACV V
87 0.7 13:05:17:515 ACV V
88 0.358 13:05:18:15 ACV V
89 0.346 13:05:18:515 ACV V
90 0.652 13:05:19:15 ACV V
91 0.35 13:05:19:515 ACV V
92 0.35 13:05:20:15 ACV V
93 0.35 13:05:20:515 ACV V
94 0.351 13:05:21:15 ACV V
95 0.351 13:05:21:515 ACV V
96 0.344 13:05:22:15 ACV V
97 0.353 13:05:22:515 ACV V
98 0.357 13:05:23:15 ACV V
99 0.358 13:05:23:515 ACV V
100 0.357 13:05:24:15 ACV V
101 0.357 13:05:24:515 ACV V
102 0.357 13:05:25:15 ACV V
103 0.357 13:05:25:515 ACV V
104 0.37 13:05:26:15 ACV V
105 0.368 13:05:26:515 ACV V
106 0.368 13:05:27:15 ACV V
107 0.368 13:05:27:515 ACV V
108 0.42 13:05:28:15 ACV V
109 0.37 13:05:28:515 ACV V
110 0.362 13:05:29:15 ACV V
111 0.363 13:05:29:515 ACV V
112 0.409 13:05:30:15 ACV V
113 0.366 13:05:30:515 ACV V
114 0.355 13:05:31:15 ACV V
115 0.357 13:05:31:515 ACV V
116 0.366 13:05:32:15 ACV V
117 0.38 13:05:33:15 ACV V
118 0.38 13:05:33:515 ACV V
119 0.344 13:05:34:15 ACV V
120 0.363 13:05:34:515 ACV V
121 0.362 13:05:35:15 ACV V
122 0.344 13:05:35:515 ACV V
123 0.359 13:05:36:15 ACV V
124 0.359 13:05:36:515 ACV V
125 0.361 13:05:37:15 ACV V
126 0.36 13:05:37:515 ACV V
127 0.36 13:05:38:15 ACV V
128 0.359 13:05:38:515 ACV V
129 0.358 13:05:39:15 ACV V
130 0.453 13:05:39:515 ACV V
131 0.395 13:05:40:15 ACV V
132 0.352 13:05:40:515 ACV V
133 0.386 13:05:41:15 ACV V
134 0.374 13:05:41:515 ACV V
135 0.4 13:05:42:15 ACV V
136 0.4 13:05:42:515 ACV V
137 1.404 13:05:43:15 ACV V
138 1.614 13:05:43:515 ACV V

I was laid down most of this reading

deca

13-02-2007, 05:06 PM

http://www.eharassment.ca/index.htm

deca

13-02-2007, 05:12 PM

http://int.psycor.ru/main.php?smir

deca

17-02-2007, 07:49 PM

This is the first time its been in the red in the middle of a room in my home
it has three settings safe, caution and danger
think is because I have posted on here and i am in contacted with other mc victoms...
can any one help?

deca

17-02-2007, 08:02 PM

safe 0-2.5 milli gauss
caution 2.5 -7 milli gauss
danger 8 or higher

edelweiss pirate

18-02-2007, 05:26 PM

Remember this reality is all in your head. Change what's in your head and you will change what goes on outside.

Who am I?

Former experiencer of mind control and illuminati inductee, I was totally lost to the subtle suggestions of the unseen world ( I was way out there man surfing the apocalypse)... until one thing made me break trully free from the TV talking to me, from the birds screaming at me, from the strange business men who always seemed to 'know me'... from the fear that the world was ending because of the demons that were riding my shirt tails... one thing broke me free and that was a Radiohead song..

When I heard Tom Yorke shout the words:

"You do it to yourself, yourself and that's what really hurts.."

That broke the spell that was holding me. I realised this was the real truth. It was all in my head. I was creating it. I was right were you were now... , the whole thing was just acquired beliefs that I had created a terrifying reality out of it.. Many people have a similar experience (I'm actually sharing 'illumination notes with a cool guy on this forum at the mo..).

The reason is because the media (and the alternative media) put ideas out there into people's heads which actually take on a really existence as soon as you believe it. If you don't see it it really isn't there.

Just try to forget all this mobile phone tetra mast stuff Decla, you can do without it... if you can actually cease to believe in it it WILL go away... Just don't feed it anymore.. I've been there. there is an alternative way to live...

deca

18-02-2007, 06:43 PM

thats it I fucking my own mind....microwave weopons do not exsit I just think they do....hmmm.....so people can`t read peoples thoughts with electrodes stuck to your head http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html
they don`t have remote eletrodes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm
and thats in the news
hmm I must of read this a thought this was happening to me
wrong I thought I would talk about this and maybe people would take this serious .I can`t think myself of this only way I am getting of this is lots of people start asking questions and start passing laws to stop this abuse
I will be starting a web site soon and start showing the proof.

edelweiss pirate

18-02-2007, 08:12 PM

Just trying to help man... How are you going to stop all this stuff? Is that gear you bought helping? Just making you more scared in my view.

If you stop being scared you might actually be able to beat this.

Whether they exist is irrelevant. They can only hurt you if you believe in their power to do do and as far as I can see, you are allowing them to hurt you.

I gave you any number of suggestions and asked many questions of you that you haven't considered or answered. I'm trying to help you because I know where you are but you are content to remain a victim.

EM harrassment is only a possible reality.. You do not have to believe in it, just as you do not have to believe that you will be mugged at knife point... And you know the funny thing about the people who live in fear of being mugged at knife point? Guess what.. they get mugged at knife point.. While some people bounce through life seemingly immune from danger and violence.

Why is that I wonder? Why don't you read Infinite Love is the only truth..

You have a lot to learn about the nature of reality.

Sorry. I wish you well but leave this victim stuff behind. How is it helping? Be active not passive. You should make the moves.. They need to fear you. You don't need to fear them.. What have you ever done wrong?

Stop being afraid... it's an illusion.. It's ALL an illusion...

deca

18-02-2007, 08:43 PM

would I being posting on here
I have leaved in fear of this for over 2years
I am starting to fight back
I am intouch with 2 other mc eletronic harassment victoms
biggest problem is people are deneing this
thats how they keep people like me quite
no one will belive you, you will be locked up, people will think you are mental
will can kill you no one will know
from what I hear you were under some type of social mind control..theres lots of
forms of this.
we are all under some type of social mind control to some degree
backed up by mass media....you are outcast if you don`t go along with the heard.
I don`t no why I am under direct energy harassment they say its becaused I copy cds....it always ends up being my fault ....wich its not.
just please have an open mind abouts this...
I have tried just mental blocking this out...it did not work..they are very persiencet...think that I am battaling a computer half the time.
who knows in this crazy world.

deca

18-02-2007, 09:00 PM

I have some strange exprence from my past..think we all have
I have went through some of them to make up ,explain what was happening to me..Why me whats makes me different...the people doing this to me...I think MI5 or some branch of them played along with some of them...I can`t relay saying much about that as it would just divert from the fact goverments have this tech and what it keep quit.It gives them to much power...
people like me are writen off as looneys and that suits them.
easy to screw kill people get info without leaving there desk or any evidence.

deca

25-02-2007, 02:24 AM

my meter
safe 0-2.5 milli gauss
caution 2.5 -7 milli gauss
danger 8 or higher
sorry about bad video its on my mobile. The reading was not coming for my phone it has to be near it to show up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGyjGCUQBy4

seamus

25-02-2007, 08:10 AM

Hey yes... the govt's do have this power, but as E.P. has been trying to tell you, their power over you is limited to that which you give them. A song I heard that helped me straighten my space out a little when my demons got out of hand was

"Ain't nobody messing with you but you.
Your friends are getting most concerned.
Loose with the truth, baby, it's your fight.
Baby, don't get burned"
Althea, Hunter/Garcia

I think that you need to have an "I'm not taking any crap" mental attitude in addition to whatever equipment you have bought. You might also want to get in touch with sensei over at warriormatrix. Many people are being helped by that network, but you have to be totally innocent to get that help. (That's what I read on a connected site concerning requests for help. I think it means for example you can't be dealing smack and expect help)

s

jimijams

25-02-2007, 09:01 AM

edelweiss pirate

25-02-2007, 07:36 PM

Yah.. read Castaneda.... The thing which stands out fror me from those books is the 'empty people' who seem to have unusual powers and creep up at most unexpected times... I've been in touch with Seamus who has also met these 'empty people'...

They're people who have sold their love for the promise of power knowledge wealth and whatever people can be bought off with...

They have strong psychic powers and exhibit the symptoms of schizophrenia.. They're not in the least dangerous unless you're not sure of your own mental strength...

There are millions of these guys out there, men and women of all races...

They're not reptiles, they're worse... they're human....

deca

25-02-2007, 08:50 PM

This is better than the last video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gDoNPMTgo

The signal is coming from above My dectector is directional
anybody on here knowabout emf E.L.F ?
the signal has gone to safe again?

unicorn

27-02-2007, 03:08 PM

Just saw this today in yahoo's news. I love the last sentence, 'The report did not specify what practical uses the scientists saw for the remote-controlled pigeons.'. Lucky we don't need them to tell us why, think we can pretty much guess....

http://http://uk.news.yahoo.com/27022007/80-132/bird-brained-china-scientists-learn-fly-pigeons.html

Bring on the day when animals will no longer be suffering in the laboratories...

Peace

tonto o_reilly

27-02-2007, 03:17 PM

lolo

27-02-2007, 04:04 PM

hello i du not vant tu efend enivan but du yu vork enithing or yu yust spek layke politsens (bush, mesic, bleir.):confused:

unicorn

28-02-2007, 03:26 PM

sorry, here's the link again for the mind-controlled pidgeons

http//uk.news.yahoo.com/27022007/80-132/bird-brained-china-scientists-learn-fly-pigeons.html

hope it works! more madness...

deca

28-02-2007, 04:11 PM

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/

same as yesterday?

I have think I have scene the artical on another thread on here..about controling flying peagions in china

if you come across new videos and articals on this kind of thing please let me know..have to be reported on in a credable main media source....Trying to prove to other people that this is going on..otherwise people laugh and start saying silly stuff about tin foil hats.thanks

deca

01-03-2007, 04:04 PM

the closets i have got to getting into my garden while video my emf detector
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXxJ_kuhYA today(13.30) 1/03/07
at these high readings can cause cancer!!!

if you have read the guardia report they can know my actions before/same time as I do. The system they have is far more avannced than this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...009217,00.html

Anybody Know about emf e.l.f please help share info.

I am saving up for better dector to take better readings collect data
can anybody lend my this kind off equiment or sell to me cheap

the dector I have can be bought for 13 pounds
from ebay or www.lessemf.com or other emf protection site

thanks

deca

07-03-2007, 04:33 PM

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/904/jammerxp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Take 2 lengths of insulated copper wire tie together at one end making sure the bare wire does not touch. Bare wire 1cm ether side of knot for 3 cm then connect other ends to a 3.5mm Mono jack Plug that fits a headphone socket.
Make a sound file up one channel white noise other channel high pitch whaling noise
burn to cd or download to mp3 player
plug in adapter that Allows two 3.5mm mono jack plugs,
one carrying the left and one carrying the right channel
of a stereo signal, to be connected to a 3.5mm stereo socket
put on wire copper neck less so knot is at middle of the back of neck use wire tie or similar to tighten wire at front of neck plug in to adapter, plug in headphones press play.
Make sure you hear white noise through headphones.
Note do not ware metal neck less when using jammer.

Make white noise
use soundmasker
http://www.vectormediasoftware.com/soundmaskerhome.htm
can be used by its on with headphones until jammer is built

where I bought this jammer

http://www.clonegenome.org/jammercd2.html

synergy777

07-03-2007, 06:05 PM

sometimes i thought it was paranoia, do u think they would target us?

unicorn

07-03-2007, 06:12 PM

sometimes i thought it was paranoia, do u think they would target us?

Star wars has begun! Make sure you protect yourself against the barage of weapons being sent out from the government. As powerful as mind control is the huge surge in etheric implants, mircochips & alien / entity attachments that are being sent to humanity. It feels as if the illuminati / annunaki have given a free rein to invaders who are hitching a free ride or implanting devices into people. I even had an alien come during my sleep, luckily I remembered it from a dream-like state (more like a nightmare!) so I could clear myself, but it wad borring something into my lower back. Many people refuse to beleive this world of other-dimensions, so they are perfect victims to being controlled or manipulated this way.

synergy777

07-03-2007, 06:26 PM

what you think about demons, battles, lucid dreaming. a bit like dragon, bruce and his demon.

deca

07-03-2007, 06:32 PM

synergy777 and anyone else reading this I am not trying to scare you or make you paranoid. I did not know anything about this when I was first attacked this made me very vunarable to them. I do not think they can hook up millions of people to this. But if you are unluckie knowing about this and knowing
that there are others going through this will make you stronger harder to break down.

synergy777

07-03-2007, 06:44 PM

i think if they track the net, uni's etc then they know. fuck them and their slaves, one day i will conquer them with all tribes united, then what? if they can't beat me at my worst, what will they do when i can be bothered to try, lol like ali take the punches, mock them, exhaust them, then anihilate them. float like a butterfly, sting like a nuke. cheers bro, having informed peeps, it gives you support, cheers.i know they have echelon/carnivore, google analytics, gchq etc.

victory shall be sweet and the meek shall inherit, one love peace.

what can one do in order to prevent them/restrict them.

deca

07-03-2007, 07:25 PM

First thing is they do not want this coming out!!!
I am in the uk and think my harassment is tetra based
get yourself informed

http://www.tetrawatch.net/main/index.php

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/

find where there mast are in the uk
http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

be a detector they start as little as 13 pounds

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

anoninnyc

07-03-2007, 08:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnx4DXvgYD0

deca

08-03-2007, 11:35 AM

Thanks anoninnyc I have sent this to the TI I know a lot of them have court cases that they are trying to win, some of them have lost there jobs and homes
and there lives trying to prove and make aware of mind control.

deca

08-03-2007, 06:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmQ9_g9b5Hk

phoenixchilde

09-03-2007, 02:08 AM

This is misinformation. Repeated studies have proven that your thoughts do not reflect your neural patterns or brainwaves. It's been a puzzle to neural scientists the world over that brain patterns and brainwaves are not affected at all by your thoughts.

Your memories for instance are stored in the brain in a non-localized fashion. Studies have been done where entire hemispheres of the brain were removed without any memory loss at all. The brain is nothing more than a tool for controlling the body. That's why the body doesn't respond to your thoughts, it responds to your control.

They probably published this load of crap in an attempt to get some government or military funding.

deca

09-03-2007, 02:52 AM

phoenixchilde are you on about the last video?
I am just trying to find out what is happning to me and share it with other people.
how do you explain this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5167938.stm
watch the video on right hand side
our brain emits Electrical impluses and detects Electrical impluses

deca

09-03-2007, 12:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=marsboy683
has lots of video

edelweiss pirate

09-03-2007, 01:32 PM

I agree with Pheonix child...

This is a mind virus, it's the ultimate dangerous delusion that invisible agents are messing with your thoughts...

If you start believing this then you're in trouble...

People have been hearing voices for thousands of years, far as I know there were no Tetra masts mentioned by the Old testament prophets..

Much more likely to be caused by discarnate astral entities than technology...

Fear is the mind killer.

deca

09-03-2007, 02:31 PM

you would rather belive in astral entities than pulsed microwaves that come from
tetra mast that can and have been mesured http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/index.php.
EMF and ELF detectors are used in ghost hunting.
EMF effect humans,animals and plants
The human body radiates magnetic energy fields
If there are any astral entities I think they would be blasted by mans atemps to
control this.
the planet earth has its own magnetic field.
Now lets forget all the other TIs and videos and documents

how do I block astral entities the claim to be the goverment

edelweiss pirate

09-03-2007, 02:39 PM

If you believe it is a technological phenomenon then it is a faceless phenomenon which follows no rules. You're fighting a machine.

If however, you remember that people have been hearing voices for thousands of years and in countries all over the world (Shamans don't use Tetra masts) then you realise that something 'bigger' could be going on..

The way you fight them is by realising your infinite spiritual power and strength. And remember that noone can hurt you without your consent on an etheric level (through fear) these are the rules they are obliged to follow.

Learn the rules they play by.. Read up on the Horus myrth and the castration of Set... It's just a myth sure, but it tells you how they operate. The power of evil is the power of illusion provoked by fear to become real.

Start living the life you want. The greatest illusion is that you are powerless. If they've got you tagged as a victim you're in their paradigm. Get out of it now. Everything that's holding you in that paradigm you need to get out of.

deca

09-03-2007, 02:59 PM

deca

09-03-2007, 03:37 PM

I was lying down for the most of this.
already posted but I now know how to post pics now

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5185/graph2nv9.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graph2nv9.jpg)

seamus

09-03-2007, 06:07 PM

I am not saying that if you hear voices then you are being attacked by tetra mast. I am not saying that people who are senstive to the spirtal world are being attacked by tetra mast but what I am saying is I am being attacked with emf ELF weopons probadly from tetra mast and I am not the only one...I caught them on my detector
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXxJ_kuhYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gDoNPMTgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGyjGCUQBy4
The miltray and other agencys around the world have being playing with this for over 50 years
Sorry I don`t mean to be defencive but I don`t what this to get fluffed and mixed up with other going ons.

sorry about my spelling.

Deca, the problem is this: You are seeing the problem as a technological one. E. Pirate is trying to tell you, and I agree, that it is a spiritual problem. They can't get to you if you refuse to be afraid. The entities behind all this feed quite literally off fear.

give this site a look. It talks about dealing with mind parasites and emf, which is your problem.
http://worldwithoutparasites.com/zapper_health_related_products.html

Don Croft and his wife Carol have been helping people for years with this kind of thing.

s

P.S. don't worry about spelling.

deca

09-03-2007, 06:54 PM

I spent 2 years fighting this with my mind alone trying to block this out before I started going near the net looking for help (i was constantly warned off throu voice to skull) I was at rock bottom on my own no where to turn to then I read the gaurdian http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html and thought I would hit the net and try and get what I could out think it would sir up intrest I have overcome my fear I know that I rant on a bit on here but my mood/mind is tampered 24/7 7 days a week some days worse than others. I get hit when I think about mind control and when I write about it.
This forum has helped me just by getting something out and made more stronger
I feel that by putting what I can on here Is away for me to do something positive for my self I can hardly speak to friends family or doctors I now exchange emails with other TIs this also helps alot.
This is so hard to explain to people that have not experance this.
I know that there are good people on here trying to help and I am sorry some times my frustration gets the better of me.
You lot should know how hard it is getting people to understand 911 being an inside job just think how hard it is with the little proof we have in mind control.
I should say electronic harassment...its like being forced to sharing your brain with somebody else who does not like you.
I don`t now how else to put it.

anoninnyc

09-03-2007, 11:36 PM

deca, do you think you have been specifically targeted and if so why?

deca

10-03-2007, 02:54 AM

I have been playing around with making music on pc for years had a sampler for my amiga 1200 so I have a keen ear for sound. One time I noticed the guy that was doing this was tapping his pen on the mic , So I new there is somebody in a room broadcasting this to me but I did not no how. You would be amazed just how clear this is.
Why I was targeted I am not sure, There no real reason I have racked my brain on this I have done some silly minor things. I am not invoved in any wierd group or done any protesting. I wouldn`t worry to much I don`t think the people using
this on me are as bad as whats happened to mkultra program Think they use it to gather info or trying out for some future police pre crime role. You will know if this is happning to you I don`t what to freak anybody out.

mynameis

10-03-2007, 08:48 AM

From LC forums behind left this link from a pdf about the SECNAVINST, and Secretary of the Navy's, Human Research Protection Program (http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3069883/). Highlights start on Page 9:

(2) The Under Secretary of the Navy (UNSECNAV) is the Approval Authority for research involving:

(a) Severe or unusual intrusions, either physical or psychological, on human subjects (such as consciousness-altering drugs or mind-control techniques).

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2495

harpalchemist

10-03-2007, 12:39 PM

Ok,I'm putting 2 and 2 together here(oh my me,its 22 again!,I must be enlightened)and I see this stuff is being used to target people who are the dangerous ones,the ones trying to break out of the system.Ie:us.Those who want to feel they are going to become light and love and float off to alpha centauri when th e galactic blah blah blah.THAT IS MIND CONTROL,FOR THE LAST TIME.

ho1ogram

10-03-2007, 03:23 PM

G'day deca, I have a couple of things to say.

You are in pain and torment, right? Okay. Can you rise above the pain and torment? Be aware that it is happening without giving it mental energy.

I assume you are familiar with David Icke. He is in a lot of pain from his arthritis. He knows that and he can feel the pain and he doesn't focus on it. He does the things that he wants to do and thus feels liberated. ( he has also stated that he is under psychic attack and most likely is a target for emf harrasment as well). I am using him as an example. The point being that regardless of whether it is technologically based, spiritual, or all in your mind, you can still overcome it. In fact you have already overcome it, you just haven't realised it yet.

I have never been in your shoes so these words may seem simplistic and naive. Please excuse me if they are, I don't mean them to be.

Hace you ever considered the possibility that the experiences you are having are a reflection of your ego as your spirit awakens to the false construct around us? You agree that we are lied to and that all is not what it seems. People think you are mad when you tell them what has been happening to you because they believe the lies. Well, your mind/ego/physical identity wants to believe the lies and doesn't like the fact that you are waking up to the fact that not everything is as it seems. By focusing on the harassment your mind/ego is able to cling to this 'reality'. For if your mind agreed, deep down in it's hardcore conditioning, that all is an illusion then your mind/ego would cease to exist. The part of you that identifies itself as 'deca' would be no more.

Does that ring any bells with you?

In one sense of reality you are under attack. At another level you never were.

Peace,
h.

ps - I would say that just about everyone, if not all, on this forum believe in mind harassment. I don't think you are crazy. But mind control is just one layer in many and our self control is more powerful.

"God is the product of the creative imagination and God is that imagination taken flight." Nick Cave.

deca

10-03-2007, 06:01 PM

First of all I am not well read on dave icke my mum likes him and over the years that has filtered down on me. I sort of belive a lot of of icke but also belive no one has the complete truth ether Think we have got to find our own truth we are all on a road of discover. Think religion and goverment trys to force you down a road they control.At the moment I can`t realy study read much as my thoughts memory sort/long can be messed as long with my frame of mind can be altered.
How I mangage is I try not to think about personal stuff this gets used agaist you They will exploit weakness . bad silly thoughts that you would not express or dewl on get more atention memorys that you have they try to asociate with nastie sick stuff or failings. They also try and make you top yourself making out its the only way out. Which is rubbish.
As for the torture there`s the metal mind abuse headaches and theres electric shocks pains to various parts of your bodie. If you ever watched "the dear hunter" in the camp when the played russia rollete some of them broke down others after awhile sort enjoyed it in a sick way. I kinda enjoyed after a while.
Its not all bad I have fought back and one the arguement a sort of moral victory acted there reson for this "how its bad for mankind the planet" and also how corupt the goverment is who thease guys work for which is easy
get a lot of ammo on here and the alex jones site plus the people doing this
I don`t think are as sick as the cia projects like mkultra.
I think that anything that gives yourself a moral bost even a sort of placebo affect will make you stronger.
When you start to doubt yourself or let fear/anger take control you get yourself into problems also letting your thoughts imagnation run away from you they will add "throw fuel on to the fire ,stir you into trouble"
I have to watch my behaviour wich is visable to other people around me plus what I say...I can and Have been locked up in mental wards only for 2weeks at a time this is hard when there is a battle going on in my mind.
I will win They are wrong.

deca

17-03-2007, 03:07 AM

I hopefully meeting another TI in my area soon
I am taking a big gamble

If I don`t post here again by the end of march
please look into this and also

post on here

http://lists.topica.com/lists/mc/

plus here

http://wmamw.com/thatfund.htm

and ask about me

Thanks
Derek

deca

25-03-2007, 12:10 AM

This is simliar to what I am going through

http://emhdf.com/

deca

07-04-2007, 04:15 AM

I posted in a early thread about my jaw and teeth having a lot of activity now I now why
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone-implant.htm

I don`t think I have an implant but they must be able to remotely vibrate my teeth.

can anybody think of a way to record this?

deca

07-04-2007, 04:45 AM

bone conduction

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2004/09/64963

phoenixchilde

07-04-2007, 09:17 PM

Start living the life you want. The greatest illusion is that you are powerless. If they've got you tagged as a victim you're in their paradigm. Get out of it now. Everything that's holding you in that paradigm you need to get out of.

You've nailed it down right there dude. You also make a good point about the possibility of deca's problems being psychic attacks and not technological attacks.

Deca, have you considered consulting a psychic protection expert to see if this is a psychic attack?

deca

07-04-2007, 10:43 PM

I can talk to the perpetrators that are doing this to me. Its two way system.

deca

08-04-2007, 02:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=FTW76140

I get my eyes fucked with but I am lucky I have not been burned yet.

This poor bastard getting fucked over with there cheap audio tricks e.g voice changers and voice morphing programs.

deca

08-04-2007, 03:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_Tc7-yDDs

deca

08-04-2007, 03:26 AM

phoenixchilde believe me its tech. I know you are trying to help. I have got my spell checker working now and I now fear less writing about this. I am now gonna hopeful give better info on this and not come across as some mad rambling panicking mad person under some demon attack.
I am manging a lot better as my counter measure are helping.
There are a lot of new bone conduction devices coming soon for your mobile witch hopeful makes more people aware that you can put voice, sounds straight into your skull.

deca

08-04-2007, 04:03 PM

I hope to get one of these soon
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3750/cdocumentsandsettingsadrw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

edelweiss pirate

08-04-2007, 04:19 PM

And why don't you move house or something? Take a day out in the mountains of Wales and see if you still hear the voices..

There is a logical sequence of acts that you can carry out to get rid of this problem, rather than highlighting what I believe to be yet another fear mind virus that they want to infect us all with.....

deca

08-04-2007, 05:05 PM

edelweiss pirate you are right
http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=285

I have moved for a couple of days about 50 miles away made no difference.One
uk TI moved to Canada and was hooked up there.

I am not trying to scare you or mess with your mind or spread fear.
I am trying to prove this so it can be stopped.
I know this is hard to believe and explain so I need reply`s feedback I need help
If you can`t see the danger of this tech and help put some restrictions on it we are all in danger.
I have a life and live it the best I can I am not some sad lonely loser sit and my computer all day imagining things.

edelweiss pirate

08-04-2007, 05:37 PM

Are you sure it's tech?

Maybe you're right... Still doesn't explain why this has been going on for thousands of years...

Surely the fact that when you moved you still heard the voices indicates that it is not technology?

My theory is extra dimensional beings... aliens fucking with your head...

anoninnyc

08-04-2007, 05:45 PM

it could be schizophrenia.

edelweiss pirate

08-04-2007, 05:49 PM

I think some schizophrenics actually are in contact with extra dimensional beings...

There's a whole lot of weird stuff going on behind the limit of our perception..

deca

08-04-2007, 06:06 PM

walk around your neighborhood and count how many mobile mast there are. Does your mobile disconnect when you moved about even in a car or train driving at speed. How do you explain my high ELF readings, Or my high body voltage?
What about the hundreds of other victims experiencing they same thing are they schizophrenics or government agents trying to spread fear and mind viruses
what about the new technology's being talked about into reading thoughts and
also about brain interfaces,celldar and bone conduction
also trying to build a hive mind
what about all the none lethal weapons on the market

why would ET travel millions of miles so it can fuck with my mind. Would they not try and control somebody in a position of wealth or power.

governments all ready tap phones ,read emails would they not try and hack your brain!!

make your own mind up while you still have one.

anoninnyc

08-04-2007, 08:04 PM

have you tried orgonite? why are you reacting so strongly to the suggestion that perhaps this is schizophrenia? i dont even know you, so why would you really care what i think. i am just throwing the possibility out there for you to consider.

seamus

08-04-2007, 09:13 PM

just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

No, I'm serious! I think E.P. is right. Many schizophrenics are in contact with ETs. That could be anything from thought-forms to spirits that have never lived in this 3d, or ex-3d residents who still have something to say, or even Satan. Hey I am pretty sure I spent some personal time with him, so don't laugh. He's not bad. He's just drawn that way :)

Sooo, like, have you had any luck with any of the EM shielding technologies? if not, you are dealing with an orgone-centered, and therefore not terrestrial-based, entity. I mean yeah, there are DOR factories everywhere, but to finely manipulate etheric energies is beyond the governments' capabilities. I believe it will always remain so, due to the intensity of the backlash if they were to attempt it.

s

deca

09-04-2007, 12:03 AM

tinmenace

09-04-2007, 12:44 AM

I think some schizophrenics actually are in contact with extra dimensional beings...

There's a whole lot of weird stuff going on behind the limit of our perception..

You know I read something that you said earlier about this, and I was thinking about it quite a bit at lunch time. I think you're onto something. It's their natural state and that's why they often DON'T want to take their medication, which essentially forces them into our wavelength, for example.

Knowing that Eli Lilly, the shameless Illuminati pharmaceutical company makes a lot of meds for the treatment of 'mental illness' makes me wonder about it even more. We discuss it on the In-DIANA thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172)

I'm very curious now. I'm going to find out what the active ingredients are in these meds, and read more about it. I'll let you know what I find, and if you have a starting point for me to consider, I'd appreciate the input.

I guess they have to have some form of control over those that refuse to download the matrix....declare them insane and force chemical on them.

anoninnyc

09-04-2007, 06:09 PM

anoninnyc I have not got schizophrenia even when I was in the nut house the doctors did not think I was. I was stressed and paranoid.
Its just frustrating you try and tell people that you here voices in your head that are not coming from you and people say you are a schizophrenic you then tell them that the government doing it you are a paranoid schizophrenic. I not having ago at you personally but trying to get people to take this seriously.

http://www.healthline.com/adamcontent/schizophrenia

schizophrenia seems to be a general term for people who don`t fit in to normal life.

I am gonna make some TB`s soon with organite.

my base ball cap from www.lessemf.com
and qlink have helped alot
I also take these to
b complex
ginkgo biloba & ginseng
multivitamins & minerals
bilberry extract
st johns wort extract

I am not saying that everybody that here`s voice`s in there heads is a TI (targeted individual of mind control or electronic harassment) but I am and there are many others.

Mkultra was over 30 years ago do I have to wait 30 years for the government to admit this and say sorry.

i am sorry you are going through this. not saying you are schizophrenic at all, just wanted to make sure you have considered it, which it seems you have. i hear you about your frustration and sorry that i added to it. perhaps this frightens me a bit, as i dont see any good reason to harass you in particular. i mean, you arent an important scientist, or someone with some special kind of knowledge, are you? i dont know why they would do this to you or even who they are. but i can tell you that you must try orgonite. i think that you may find relief. best of luck

notaslave

09-04-2007, 07:36 PM

Deca - have you ever been in the armed forces?

phoenixchilde

10-04-2007, 01:05 AM

Deca, have you tried not taking St. John's Wort? I've heard some things about that stuff causing hallucinations.

deca

10-04-2007, 03:44 AM

I have met the Ti in my local area. We had so much to talk about. We hit it of straight away so much in to share.I will try and get him to post on here too.

No i have not been in the armed force`s

Think they pick on people like me because if it goes wrong nobody will believe us and we will not have the resources or position to fight this.

more to come soon.

Ps I have only started taking the above health products in the last month e.g St. John's Wort so this is not
the cause of the electrical harassment had it for 3 years!!!

deca

10-04-2007, 04:34 AM

http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/weapons_army_use_of_halluginogenic_weapons_unveile d.htm

starfire56

12-04-2007, 06:22 PM

:) check this link its in your paper people have to Wake up to mind control electronic harrasment its real and been done for years on thousands of people around the world remember that goverment and mod are at least 10years ahead think where this tech will be in ten years and thats right its on your door step now !!!!!!!
mind control electronic harrasment

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2009217,00.html
starfire56:-) your article is very believable thank you for drawing the public's attention to it. We need to keep on even though we may be ridiculed for it, the real point is the promise we make to the truth,it is out there!, those of us have a responsiblity, to make those victims aware of what is really going on, before it is too late, starfire 56 so believes you, how brave you are david icke soldier, keep up the fight, fight my freind fight,don't give up, there are some of us who truely value you always. a very informative article. starfire56

informationx

12-04-2007, 10:43 PM

What annoys me about all this is when the people who are developing it and promoting it say "This technology is inevitable", and "its bound to happen"

Who says? who gave them the right to decide whats bound to happen!

tinmenace

12-04-2007, 10:56 PM

deca

13-04-2007, 04:23 AM

uk using lsd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVVgOO3P_Yg
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,1716708,00.html

Tetra
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,850049,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,607933,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,487344,00.html

effects of elf on humans brain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr63NyIam58
Marconi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marconi_Scientists
http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/1347.php
http://www.whale.to/b/mron.html

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3523917540385289555&q=marconi++suicide

deca

13-04-2007, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the reply`s , they mean a lot to me.:)

Last night I was googling trying to research this and came across this video from a psychic, healer, and renowned author ("Transmutation Through Ascension"), who is getting electronic harassed
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-9219647520615705963&q=electronic+harassment
this is a long interview 1hour

You will see that most TI share similar experiences but most have different idea`s on who the perpetrators are and who know`s about it.

Solaris believes her connections to rush got her on here and that they are involved maybe rush are TI victims them self who knows in this crazy world

The perpetrators try to make me believe people that I have known in the past around my local area are involved There`s one person they keep hitting me with me that appears to have some logical connection to me and why they blame me for being on here, But I think and feel this is so I a accuse him and
get involved with the law and made to look crazy with the people around me
.
Is there anybody who would like to help me research Mind control and electronic harassment ?

truthsayer

13-04-2007, 03:49 PM

bloody hell, talk about thought police.....

I was thinking the same thing. I sometimes wonder if 1984 is a blueprint for these people.

deca

13-04-2007, 05:41 PM

they have done this on me but remotely.

Remote Control Device 'Controls' Humans
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/10/25/financial/f133702D73.DTL

deca

14-04-2007, 05:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILH4qgkXk8

deca

14-04-2007, 06:13 AM

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSPb-8XtdzI
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9J9EEyKEw&mode=related&search=
This is an ad but it makes you think about emfs
I don`t know about the bio.

deca

14-04-2007, 06:42 AM

part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVme-z7r-YQ&mode=related&search=
part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlk6gQ-204&mode=related&search=
part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTMEraQsWvg&mode=related&search=

deca

16-04-2007, 12:42 PM

I live in Lancashire and it was one of the first to get Tetra (sort of testing ground I think)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6036671.stm

synergy777

16-04-2007, 06:54 PM

elf? i think they have arsenal of weapons and clones. they use elf, gchq to track and oppress. they also have civillians that help them to monitor cyber truthseeker, activists. i say let them get on with it, every one will be accounted for.

deca

01-05-2007, 03:12 PM

been painting my room with some carbon special paint to block emfs out, I will let you know how I get on.

I have Silver Bobbinet for the window
from here http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp

I have rapped it around my mobile phone and it kills the signal I might make a pouch for my phone so I can stick it in my pocket when i need it.

synergy777

01-05-2007, 03:45 PM

the whoel estblisment and their serfs are are stain on humanity. let them data collect, sooner or later they will have to answer for what they done, for the pain, suffering, they have inflicted, everyone will have to face the truth/cretaor.

although sometimes i think the electronic angle might be a little ego mad, oh i know everything they are after me, etc, be fully aware of the treachous ego. they know who knows, they allow us to live. you think the people care about freedom, truth, they don't really, as long they have bread and circus, they are happy. personally don't fear the clones, or the elite, when their life is done, they will soon know, at least we can live without fear, of this life and after, they can't. they dread the after, so cling on to power, worldly possessions, as this is all they will ever have, know.

buddhism, is the best way to go bro, that and sikhism. these break it down without any imperial/elite crap added on.

infinitely free

01-05-2007, 07:19 PM

I've posted 2 topics on this subject :

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3328

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3288

deca

02-05-2007, 12:21 PM

Thanks infinitely free,

When you start looking at mind control & electronic harassment you realize its nothing new and just how wide spread it is.

deca

07-05-2007, 02:49 AM

came across this about Synthetic Telepathy (microwave hearing)
http://www.nwbotanicals.org/oak/newphysics/synthtele/synthtele.html

paolo

07-05-2007, 03:46 AM

The Menwith Hill link (http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com/225988-9597-4658-0-Echelon-Menwith-Mobile-Masts-Mind-Control.htm)

whitenight639

07-05-2007, 04:18 AM

I live in Lancashire and it was one of the first to get Tetra (sort of testing ground I think)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6036671.stm

funny that, in lancashire theres one of the top masonic temples, i saw it when researching i got the impression its the masterlodge or whatever u call it, nobhead head office - i thought it would be in london tho.

cruise4

07-05-2007, 04:18 AM

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

Anyone got any thoughts?

I'm wondering whether we could get some of these mind controlled subjects to 'go off' early, perhaps codewords in mass emails or some other method?

And is this horendous stuff possibly true?

eternal_spirit

07-05-2007, 04:38 AM

funny that, in lancashire theres one of the top masonic temples, i saw it when researching i got the impression its the masterlodge or whatever u call it, nobhead head office - i thought it would be in london tho.

Any more info on this, where about and what's the Lodge called??? I'm on the Lancashire Merseyside border????

deca

07-05-2007, 07:20 PM

Thanks whitenight639- I am don`t know who the perpetrators are.
I suspects MI5,Police,MOD or the company that is testing/making this equipment (thinking BAE systems here as they sort of work on this type of stuff and they were formed out of a merger between marconi & ba )weather there is a masonic link I don`t know,Probably there will be one.Wounder if you could look into this?

Thanks paolo I gonna have a good look at that forum they seem to be informed about this type of thing.

cruise4 thanks will take a while to read that post. I am more electronic harassed than mind controlled but
I can`t always be sure what they have pumped into my brain.

deca

07-05-2007, 08:08 PM

Came across this I have the same head net.if I put my mobile phone in it, it kills the signal but it does not stop the harassment that I get.Your whole body acts like an Ariel.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=450995&in_page_id=1879

deca

10-05-2007, 08:25 PM

I am on john Allman`s mailing list he is a TI and been on program's about it.
I got this the other day

From: John Allman
>To: MainlandEurope@BanMindWeapons.EU
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:43 AM
>Subject: [Not "spam", very important!] Europe-wide activism - "take me to
>your leader(s), please"
>
>
>If you do not know English well, please just translate the bold text to
>understand the basic messages of this email. I will try to write again
>soon with a translation of this email into German and other European
>languages, with the same information.
>
>7 May 2007
>
>I am writing to you today because I believe that you might live in Europe,
>and that you might be either a militant targeted individual or a
>non-affected activist against the abuse of weapons that manipulate human
>beings. In either case, you are part of the same international movement as
>me and my colleagues in the UK and elsewhere where English is spoken. You
>are part of the worldwide movement against manipulation weapons.
>Alternatively, you might just be somebody who would like to meet other
>targeted individuals and their supporters, but who would prefer not to take
>part in any public activism yourself. That's fine too. I am hoping that
>there will be time for newly "outed" TIs to bask in the pleasure of no
>longer being isolated, and to begin some "peer-assisted
>self-deprogramming", as I call it.
>
>A few of us are planning a week-long programme of events that we hope will
>take place in the Frankfurt - Strasbourg - Stuttgart triangle, centred upon
>the forthcoming Symposium on Non-Lethal Weapons in Ettlingen, from Mon 21 -
>Wed 23 May 2007. Please see
>http://www.non-lethal-weapons.com/ettlingen.html. Some of you who are
>receiving this may also be planning a programme of events. I know from
>Monika Stoces (Belgium) that some of the activists in Germany are planning
>a programme of events, but I am only just getting in direct touch with the
>people whom I guess might be those already doing some planning. I am
>hoping that we can plan together, despite the language barrier. (Monika's
>computer has stopped working today. Anybody writing to Monika should use
>only her gmail email address for the time being, monika.stoces@gmail.com.
>Please keep emails to Monika to a minimum during this difficult time for
>her.)
>
>Please note that I am not connected with the group organising the
>Non-Lethal Weapons conference. Rather, I intend (if nothing else, and
>even if nobody else joins me) to picket the conference, making contact with
>conference delegates, the news media and the general public, as far as
>possible.
>
>Please keep at least some of the entire week Sat 19 - Fri 25 May 2007 free,
>if you would like to be invited to participate in any part of the
>programme. If you are one of those already planning a programme, please
>tell me what you are planning.
>
>Please reply to this email if you do not want to be invited to participate
>once the programme is finalised, asking to be removed from the mailing
>list, by using the subject heading "unsubscribe", and leaving a copy of
>this email in the body of your reply, for me to see which mailing list it
>is from which to remove you.
>
>Please forward this email to anybody you know who might be interested in
>joining any programme. If you received a forwarded copy of this email
>yourself, but not a direct copy from me, and you want to be invited, please
>reply to John.Allman@thatfund.org asking to be added to my "MainlandEurope"
>mailing list.
>
>At the moment, the greatest need is for leaders, to help in the planning of
>the programme. I have reason to believe that some of those receiving this
>email are already leaders of groups in their home countries, or might be
>able to introduce me to their leaders. Some of you might the only contacts
>I have in particular European countries. It is to be hoped that any such
>of you who are reading this will become, or will nominate, potential
>leaders in his or her own countries.
>
>Another pressing need is for multi-lingual interpreters and translators,
>who can make possible communication during planning meetings held
>face-to-face or during telephone conferences. In particular, I do not
>speak German at all, and Monika Stoces has told me that there is at least
>one talented activist in Germany who leads a group, but who does not speak
>English well. Later, we may want to produce leaflets, posters and t-shirts
>in, at least, German and French.
>
>Personnel who live in the Frankfurt - Strasbourg - Stuttgart triangle are
>also badly needed, even if they prefer not to exercise leadership roles
>during the preparations. If that's where you live, please identify
>yourself.
>
>If you have received this email, but not in your own language, and would be
>willing to provide me with a translation of this email into your own
>language, I would be grateful.
>
>It is always helpful to receive contact details (e.g. phone numbers), for
>people to use their real names rather than pseudonyms, and for people to
>give permission for their email addresses to be visible to others, because
>they want to liaise directly with others, rather than allowing the desire
>for confidentiality to prevent a de-centralised organisational structure
>emerging, placing an enormous burden upon those at the "hub" of a the
>centralised structure that people requesting confidentiality forces.
>
>The message board at http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php is a resource
>on which you might wish to draw, if you are not already doing so. It may
>help you to identify people to whom you ought to forward copies of this
>email, to whom I might not have not sent a copy.
>
>Finally, please note that we must act quickly to get this programme of
>activities organised in time. If you want to help, please decide to do so
>as soon as possible.
>
>If you happen to be part of a team that is already well-advanced in the
>planning of activities, I am especially keen to hear from you. If I don't
>have to organise anything myself, just turn up and join in what others have
>already organised, and help to make it a success, so much the better. :-)
>
>Yours sincerely,
>
>John Allman
>1 Cotswold Court, Albert Street, Fleet, Hants. GU51 3XZ. United Kingdom.
>+44 7930 519793 (cellphone)
>+44 1252 674714 (home landline)
>thatfund.org + slavery.org.uk + AllianceForChange.org.uk
>
>PS Today (7 May, my birthday - what a lovely birthday present from God!),
>I was asked by a TV station in the USA, which invited me today to record
>with them an interview in June, if I'd be able to obtain some audio-visual
>footage of the May activism in Europe against manipulation weapons, for
>them to include in one of a series of programmes they are making. Does
>anybody reading this own a video camera, or know how to use one? Also, the
>same TV company might want to use the still photographs of a demonstration
>in Russia that Monika is unable to send me at the moment, because her
>computer is down. Can anybody reading this send me those pictures, please?

__________________________________________________ _______________
The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

deca

22-05-2007, 07:06 PM

this video is amazing demonstrates microwave hearing!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7apZl_lt0A

download now!!!!!

deca

23-05-2007, 04:55 PM

ABC News Special
Mission Mind Control
1979

An ABC News Special about the human mind and experiments in mind control.

http://www.xenutv.com/cults/mindcontrol.htm

deca

24-05-2007, 12:27 PM

I took some more video of my detector yesterday 23/5/2007

I managed to make it into the garden, had problems seeing the screen sun on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3IGv8d6Eg0

this was took about 2 mins after the last video the high reading has gone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRE9CNQukfE

This was later on at my work I stack selves in a diy warehouse part time
It was sat on a concrete floor in the middle of the wood aisle I moved it so people did not think it might be above an underground wire ,but I don`t think they lay wires in the floor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I74jZ0sdaL8

my detector is a extremely low frequency electromagnetic detector
E.L.F.-ZONE™ GAUSS METER
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html

green light safe 0-2.5 milli gauss
second green light caution 2.5 - 7 milli gauss
red light 8 milli gauss or higher

deca

24-05-2007, 03:38 PM

I have mentioned celldar before but shows how microwave mast and tv transmitters can be used for other uses and how much is beam all around us.

http://www.baesystems.com/static/bae_cimg_atc_passrad_latestReleased_bae_cimg_atc_p assrad_Web.jpg
http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/SharedServices/Divisions/AdvancedTechnologyCentre/FeatureArchive/bae_ss_atc_tracks.html

synergy777

24-05-2007, 06:04 PM

i think they do monitor, and use this stuff. this however is helped by willing helpers of the public. there must be public members who are knowingly helping the nwo, they might even be getting monetary rewards etc. hopefully the public helpers will be exposed and treated as unpatriotic, fascist tyrants.

keep doing your thing deca, exposing this is hard. people ridicule, but have no understanding of science/technology.

deca

24-05-2007, 06:26 PM

think this is who they do the "think talk"
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/images/content/78112main_ACD04-0024-001.jpg

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html

once they figured this out they most of made some kind of remote sensor instead of wires attached to your chin

deca

24-05-2007, 06:47 PM

sound through skin
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061128-8302.html
patent
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220060252371%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060252371&RS=DN/20060252371

deca

30-05-2007, 03:50 AM

http://storesense2.megawebservers.com/stores/h/HS3898/cataloglist.html

right click and "save link as"
http://www.thematrixdeciphered.com/high%20pitch%20wah%20binaural%20v3.mp3

this screws the electronic harassment makes you feel good instead of shit.

I also notice a weird effect, because I used my bone conduction ear piece that it only simulated sort my right side then my left side of my brain as I swap the ear piece.

deca

02-06-2007, 07:48 PM

came across this, turns your mic input on pc to a spectrum analyzer and its free
I am gonna get this probe next month MAGCHECK 95 SENSOR
http://www.lessemf.com/probe.html

the link for the software http://test1.contenttest.net/Spectrumanalyser-Software_en.shtml

I have touched the mic jack lead from my pc with my bare hands and it picks up the bodyvoltage signal running through my body . no need for a sensor, I have also touched the tip of a mic jack lead with my tongue also get a reading.

I don`t know if we can learn anything from this, I don`t understand a lot about this. Can anybody help?
heres a snap shot with just bare lead
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5616/spect3fb6.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spect3fb6.jpg)
click on picture for large view

heres a snap shot with thumb touching jack tip only

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4185/spect2be6.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spect2be6.jpg)
click on picture for large view

heres a pic of similar lead

http://svp.co.uk/prodimages/ac5066.jpg

p.s click on both wave pics and leave them both open in your browser,then select them one after the other and back again in browser tap.

deca

02-06-2007, 09:08 PM

It would help me if some of you can try this and post your findings

thanks

Deca

I used the free SPECTRUM LAB V1.8

synergy777

05-06-2007, 08:05 PM

cheers deca for the mp3, cool.

deca

08-06-2007, 03:58 AM

no prob synergy777

I am looking into Hemi-Sync as a means to balance myself and as a countermeasure.

I just came across this.

Paranoid delusions

These are delusional ideas that make you feel persecuted or harassed. They may be:

- unusual - you may feel that MI5 or the government is spying on you. You may believe that you are being influenced by neighbours who are using special powers or technology.
source
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinformation/mentalhealthproblems/schizophrenia/schizophrenia/symptomsofschizophrenia.aspx
hmmm think its MI5 job to spy on the people of the uk!!!

deca

08-06-2007, 11:54 AM

well thats me a text book schizophrenic according to the royal collage of psychiatrists.

But lets think about it. How can so many TI`s have the same Paranoid delusions

does the government have faith in psychiatrists and the mental health.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6374547.stm
http://society.guardian.co.uk/mentalhealth/story/0,,1528344,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article2449983.ece
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article2338389.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2081987,00.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457934&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

How does the government use mental health?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457934&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Hmm if the government has a problem with you but can`t produce any evidence to take you to trial ,they say your are mentally ill

gonna spend some time sorting out my life so when I take these bastards to
court they can`t say he is "mentally ill" with "Paranoid delusions"

Thanks

deca

10-06-2007, 12:29 AM

Not sure if this is a scam or hoax

http://www.zephyrtechnology.com/The_ELF_Generator/the_elf_generator.html

http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/elf.htm

deca

12-06-2007, 07:05 PM

I came across this Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation
which is using microcurrent electrical across your body to change your brain waves?
http://www.alpha-stim.com/Information/Products/AS-100/as-100.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranial_Electrotherapy_Stimulation
http://www.alpha-stim.com/Information/Technology/Giordano/how_ces_works_files/image002.jpg

deca

17-06-2007, 03:42 PM

We are moving ever closer to the era of mind control
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1702525,00.html

deca

17-06-2007, 05:28 PM

Friday night 15th jun I was getting pains in may guts/belly I have had this before and new its was part of my harassment, Now I was at work,I work in a warehouse which is on the edge of the town were I live.My mobile phone gets a bad signal from there only 2 bars on signal strength but when I was getting the pains the signal strength doubled to 4 bars, once I noticed it the pain disappeared and the signal went back to 2 bars.Being me I started going around the store and remembering were I felt the pain,doubling back on myself,The perpetration's played along for a bit, turning the signal up and down then told me to "fuck off" through voice to skull.

I used the same sort technique with my ELF detector returning back to the spot
were I got the signal.

deca

20-06-2007, 11:34 AM

AudioSpotlight
Combine ordinary sound with ultrasound(which is above normal hearing) to produce a narrow beam of sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRds78KN7c

I wounder how long CIA/MI5,6/KGB have had these?

deca

23-06-2007, 08:00 PM

pressed wrong key ...double posted

deca

23-06-2007, 08:15 PM

I have this kit
body voltage

http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html
BODY VOLTAGE SENSOR

An external electric field will induce an electric field within our bodies. In this sense, our bodies act as antennas picking up fields from electric blankets, alarm clocks, powerlines, and just about everything connected to a source of electric power, whether it is switched on or not. Delicate biological cellular processes (like brain function and heart muscle contraction) operate on the scale of microvolts to millivolts. Body Voltage Sensor Some experts warn against induced voltages of 20 mV or higher as they can theoretically interfere with the subtle cellular activity. Simply touch this sensor with a finger and know instantly what effect external fields are having inside your body (where it counts!). Will help you detect irritating sources of electric field which may not otherwise be obvious. (Note: this item is a sensor. To use it you must plug it into a voltmeter or DMM. DMM sold separately).

Instructions For The Body Voltage Measuring Accessory (BV1)

To measure the induced A.C. voltage picked up by the body from electromagnetic sources, one needs to connect the body to the AC voltage input of a meter while grounding the "common” or ground input of the meter.

We provide a 12' to 15' ground wire with a banana plug on one end and the other end of the wire terminates in a wall plug which has only the third 'ground'' round plug, which you can plug into a three-prong type receptacle.
We are assuming that the third ground jack (round hole) in the wall receptacle is connected to ground as it should be. Occasionally one finds a 3 hole receptacle that has no ground connection due to being
upgraded from an old two-wire system without running wire. If no grounded receptacle is available we also provide a double alligator clip which you can use to clip to some other grounded object to the grounded plug on the end of the wire.

It is advised to check out the wall receptacle first with a standard receptacle tester to see whether you have a true ground connection It would be rare for the ground jack in the receptacle to be "hot"(wired incorrectly)but since this would be a safety hazard we are mentioning it as a second reason for checking the receptacle for correct wiring Simple plug in receptacle tester are available in any hardware store.
The other end of the 12' ground wire, which has a banana plug goes into the free hole of the dual banana plug adapter (the other hole of the dual banana plug adapter comes with a thumb-screw already in it). The adapter is then plugged into the meter. The plug under the thumb-screw will go into the right-hand jack, usually labelled V/ which detects voltage. The plug under the ground wire will go into the "COM" or "GND" jack (this is the reversed position compared to the E-100 sensor)

Set your multimeter to the 200m scale of the ACV section so you will be reading in AC millivolts, or to the 2 scale to read AC volts. When you hold the meter with your thumb firmly touching the screw, you are
measuring your body voltage compared to ground.

Some measuring systems use a hand-held electrode to connect the body to the voltage jack. We have measured no difference between this method and the thumb-screw method We use the latter because it is simpler,eliminates one troublesome wire, and enables you to hold and read the meter at the same time as you are making contact.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5316/photo0148ge1.th.jpg (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo0148ge1.jpg)

Low-frequency electric fields influence the human body just as they influence any other material made up of charged particles. When electric fields act on conductive materials, they influence the distribution of electric charges at their surface. They cause current to flow through the body to the ground.

Low-frequency magnetic fields induce circulating currents within the human body. The strength of these currents depends on the intensity of the outside magnetic field. If sufficiently large, these currents could cause stimulation of nerves and muscles or affect other biological processes.

Low-frequency electric fields influence the human body just as they influence any other material made up of charged particles. When electric fields act on conductive materials, they influence the distribution of electric charges at their surface. They cause current to flow through the body to the ground.

Low-frequency magnetic fields induce circulating currents within the human body. The strength of these currents depends on the intensity of the outside magnetic field. If sufficiently large, these currents could cause stimulation of nerves and muscles or affect other biological processes.

Both electric and magnetic fields induce voltages and currents in the body but even directly beneath a high voltage transmission line, the induced currents are very small compared to thresholds for producing shock and other electrical effects.

http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.html

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5515/fig74sl6.th.jpg (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fig74sl6.jpg)
Fig. 4- Electric fields in the presence of a human body. The intensity under the source is 600 V/m. The originally vertical electric field lines become warped because the body is an electrical conductor. (a)”Direct current” (dc) conditions result in a head-to-toe voltage that is zero; (b)”Alternating current” (ac) conditions result in an induced current (and voltage) that oscillates back and forth, through the body, in synchronism with the electric field. The dual arrows symbolize the alternating nature of the field.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5443/fig75wr9.th.jpg (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fig75wr9.jpg)
Fig. 5- A human body in the presence of an alternating magnetic field. In this case, the field lines are horizontal, at right angles to the front surface of the body. Although the body is almost completely nonmagnetic, the field results in circulating induced currents (and voltages). The most important of these, the torso current, is shown.

You can make this sensor easily if you have a voltmeter or DMM, just connect a wire from the "com" to ground(earth) and then connect a wire from Hz V to your thumb then select AC V millivolts.

Procedure for actual measurements
The person to be measured sits or lays in the position where the body voltage is to be measured
(the measurement is “position-sensitive” and will vary from place to place and position to
position).
abnormality : none :small :large :extreme
body voltage (in mV) : <10 : 10-100: 100-1000: >1000

deca

23-06-2007, 09:23 PM

just came across this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0e/Magnetoencephalography.png/250px-Magnetoencephalography.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoencephalography

deca

25-06-2007, 04:33 PM

http://www.che.wsu.edu/home/modules/97modules/hall/images/Image58.gif

http://www.phys.hawaii.edu/~teb/java/ntnujava/emWave/emWave.html

deca

26-06-2007, 12:47 AM

Brain pulses stimulate deep sleep
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6614433.stm
Science has designs on your brain
And shows how a TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation) machine can be used to activate, or knock-out, part of the brain with magnetic pulses. This technology has been used to give ordinary people a glimpse into what it would be like to have extraordinary brain powers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5410092.stm
Unlike other diagnostic tests that measure electrical currents, MEG measures magnetic signals from the brain in real time.
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=health&id=5344754

deca

06-07-2007, 06:39 PM

I believe also that stalking is so you blame people in your local area make it so you fear walking about and joining with local people ,so instead of gaining help and support you right your self of as a nut job.

They have tried real hard to get me to blame local people,making me feel frustrated in lines queuing up for stuff,using audio speach/effects to make out that local people are "in it and know about it"
They what you to make wild claims against local people.

I think the perpetrators know if you upset and fall out with local people they will turn against you and make your life worse...with out being involved in the mind control & electronic harassment..ie strange looks,rumors.

Why do you think perpetrators what you to fall out with local people....do you think local people want mind altering microwaves beamed over there area ?
No so try and engage local people,try to educate them and get them asking questions.

Are they people who stalk I think there is.....so please document it,dairys,
photos,video....but please check your evidence and do them for harassment and don`t mention being a TI.

I hope this helps

Deca

erikneo

06-07-2007, 10:28 PM

AudioSpotlight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRds78KN7c

I wounder how long CIA/MI5,6/KGB have had these?

That is scary.

erikneo

06-07-2007, 10:32 PM

deca

07-07-2007, 03:40 PM

Thanks erikneo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuitKgPJ87Q

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA

Please help to stop this kind of research,development and deployment...

Please ask yourself Were is it going to lead humanity ?

"bring me cake" .................."bring me food"

deca

14-07-2007, 10:07 PM

informationx

15-07-2007, 02:36 AM

I am still here,
even thou they have been so intense on me for the last couple of weeks
they real tried to blow my mind.

yet again I see signs out with there control that keep me going and lifts my spirit up.

last night was on the edge,stick of being a robot, decide to say fuck it, ended going out and got pissed, got a smoking fine....did it stop me smoking no soon as they left rolled up another, ended up in a fight....got my head kick in.

I am not going to accept this kind of police state/matrix illegal condition/experiments

I will win

Hi Decca,

I have been reading your posts and dont really know what is going on. All I can say to you, and I sincerely mean this in the nicest way is to get professional medical help. I'm not saying that you are crazy or anything like that. I have a close friend who has had similar things to what you are going through.

So see a doctor or a similar professional and explain everything to them, at least you will get another perspective on what could be going on.

I'm not saying that you are wrong in your assumptions but it can help to see all sides of the problem.

Once again I do not think you are mad, or making this stuff up. I just feel really bad for you, that you are going through this and you need real support.

All the very best to you :D;)

deca

15-07-2007, 03:00 AM

cheers

yeah the perpertrators have been hitting me very hard.... driving my mad and making look crazy thats why a lot of my post have been mixed up

they have really played into my fantasy, imagination and assumptions of whats going on.....they are driving me to be a crazy,bum or dead

this is sick system they have

I can`t go to a doctor ( mind control & electronic harrasment) does not exist to
them they would just prescribe drugs or hospital

really got hooked on numbers and colours

deca

15-07-2007, 08:48 PM

please admins and mods do not remove my postings or threads

my life is on edge, I need these threads to show the doctors that this is happening

thanks

deca

cruise4

16-07-2007, 03:06 AM

I doubt you'll get modded Deca. When push comes to shove you do have a fair depth of knowledge which isn't always apparent to others, myself included, initially. Don't let the bastards grind you down, (no offence to anyone here meant).

toppercat

20-07-2007, 09:25 PM

Hello Deca,
a lot of people disagree with you and some in a nice way seem to be directing you in the direction of phychiatric help.They miss a few points....
(1)The technology exists to do electronic harrasment.
(2)There are people technically capable of employing such technology.
(3)They are people who are evil enough to use such a technology.....When you think of child abuse it is infinetly more eviler than electronic harrasment,but of course 40 years ago people would disagree with you and claim child sexual abuse did not exist!
The way I look at it why not remove all possibility that Deca is been electronically harrased by running tests on him to check for electronic harrasment....and then and only then go down the phychiatric route.
.......The reason I'm interested is because in the town I'm living in Ireland I've been told by some sources that it is going on,and this electronic harrasment has lead to the deaths of two people...because of the constant torture one woman ran into the river(notice.."ran")and another man jumped into the river.
The man whose initials are G.F is seemingly responsible,who is involved in a paedophile ring in the town I live in.The Gardai(the police force in Ireland)are reticient to crack down on paedophile rings in Ireland....this comes from a history in Ireland where we had juvinile institutes in Ireland called "Industrial Schools" where from 1923 to 1976 thousands of young boys were sexually abused by religious Christian Brothers litreally like a conveyer belt,everyone knew including the Gardai and they did nothing!!
......Now moving on,I would like to prove that electronic harrasment works,I am prepared to be a guinea pig for one of these implants for a experiment with a newspaper.Anyone,Deca do you know where you can legitimally and above board know where you can source these micro receivers?
......Just one more theory,I reckon you would have to be bugged(micro transmitters)24 hours a day before you can be harrased...because if the harrasers kept their eye off the ball the right people could use DF(Direction Finding)equipment on them and source the transmitter that is responsible for the harrasment!
regards,
Toppercat.
Ireland.

deca

21-07-2007, 01:28 AM

check these video out

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6664741794791963676
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5372115121672697765
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-9213730275989436310
you don`t need a implant

a_fighter

22-07-2007, 08:22 AM

Wow this is sooo freaky. I just saw the minority report 5 min ago and now I have stumbled across this. On the bottom it says: "Controversially, they may be able to spot people who plan to commit crimes before they break the law." :eek:

deca

22-07-2007, 05:56 PM

yeah I am sure that they will "sell this" as some type of pre crime system in the
future.

We have already got the camers and speakers in our street.
how long before they will build non lethal system onto them.
Ie make you parallelized...stun/shock you....fall asleep... confused you....even
get marched down the cop shop.....these have been done to me. Its not only my mind under attacked but my nervis system to.

deca

22-07-2007, 06:36 PM

yeah I don`t know what will happen if they leave me alone. I don`t know if my mind will be expanded or a vegetable.

The doctor(mental health) thinks its my brain over producing dopamean.
He says he can`t believe that I am a target, If I was somebody more importain
he might consider it.
I am a guinea pig,I supposed to be a person that has not got the resource or influence to fight this.
This research has been banned in Europe since 1999 after Dr. Nick Begich demonstrated the dangers of this.
So its banned but theres no one checking up on it the enforce the ban!!!!!!!

I showed him some stuff on cellder how they can track you.He did not know anything about it.

Showed him my high ELF readings.He said he would get the same readings with out doing any tests

I showed him articals about TMS(Transcranial magnetic stimulation) and how doctors now believe it can have effect on people.
I also told him that the CIA were testing this in the 50,60,70`s under the project mkultra

over the last 3 years all they have done is test my blood and blood pressure when I was on the loony ward.

They have also said its in my head and I need drugs to cure it.
They have now said that these drugs will give me a "mental shield"
They must think I am stupid, The last time I took there drugs I ended up I trouble with the law, I don`t need them to dampen my own natural thoughts.

matrixcutter

23-07-2007, 03:56 AM

May 18, 2007 Alan Watt Blurb (i.e. Educational Talk)
"Your Thoughts are Not Your Own - They're Just a-passin' Through - It's the Elite's New Science, Electronic Voodoo"
-- "Parameters" U.S. Army War College quarterly magazine - Spring 1998 - "The Mind has No Firewall" by Timothy L. Thomas --
--"Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars" booklet --
-- "Attorney General's Conference on Less-Than-Lethal Weapons" document by Sheri Sweetman (1987) --
-- "Microwave News" May/June 1988 article "US Army has its Own Product - Radio Frequency Weapon" --
-- "Dept. of Defense Directive Policy for Non-Lethal Weapons" from Office of Assistant Secretary of Defense draft (July 21, 1994) --
-- "The Economist" May 2002 magazine article "The Future of Mind Control--
-- Des Moines Sunday Register article "Sept. 11 remains used to fill potholes, contractor claims" --
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_YourThoughtsAreNotYourOwn_May18200 7.mp3

Transcript (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_Blurb_YourThoughtsAreNotYourOwn_May18200 7.html)

graflok

23-07-2007, 04:27 AM

Why would anyone on this forum want to read Alan Watt's disinformation?

matrixcutter

23-07-2007, 04:30 AM

LOL

You poor idiot. Have another look.

chicken

23-07-2007, 03:14 PM

Its taken a few days to be activated - now I am here:o

You see I am also what they call a targeted individual here in the UK. I hate that word targeted - but we are absolutely helpless in the situation we find ourselves in because we are not supported by the health community as they do not understand our plight and think it is too far fetched to be believable. Also on the other side of it - of course family want to help and don't know what's best - they think ah! the mental health team or approach a doctor. These guys are NOT what we need at a time like this. Nights in shining armor. They give pills. Pills will do it. Its the answer in mental health - they drug first ask questions later.

What we don't need is another perspective on it - ok we can do that ourselves. We tell the truth. I have been hit for five months. and it has been hell. Depends how sensibly the targeted individual tells their story. Forget CIA, helicopters etc etc.......They really won't beleive then will they?

I want a scan and due to the stupid ethics in our land I can't. I think I was implanted as I have some time which cannot be verified. I lost it, the time - ok I was put out without my permission. Non-consensual. I am so mad? I am very stupid. I cannot turn the clock back.:mad:

The history of drugs has a chequered past. The drug companies made up the illnesses to fit the drugs they produced. In some cases a drug was produced to hit one illness and then it was found to alleviate the symptoms of another. Anti-psychotic drugs started off as antihistamine and then they saw it gave a small amount of relief to Schizophrenics in Europe. I have researched this and have the following posts on another area. Its fact - even psychiatrists recognise that drugs do more harm than good and it's pugwash. There is a new movement in the mental health arena - because it is in chaos. The mental health bill - is still not finalised as they the doctors cannot agree. There have been many very successful examples of not drugging individuals - one called the Sarota project was highly successful - people got better. Time space etc etc. Remember drugs are big business all over the world

http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=390 - Chemical Imbalance?
http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=383 - Psychosis or not?
http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=392 - Dehumanising?

No we are not crazy at all - in fact we are rational. Now to say that when someone says go and see the doctor and you then see the so called targeted individual running in the other direction in fear of what the so called helpful doctor can do. That is considered irrational - yes. We are genuinly frightened that is because we are normal :confused:- but have strange and unusual circumstances surrounding ourselves that do not fit the joe average. Perception is a funny thing? In a lot of cases it is a set up - my case is full of holes and a lot of things present themselves but don't correlate at all.

Imagine someone poking you with a stick - you can move right. I can't because the technology hits you from the inside. Its shit - I describe it and tell it how it is.

The DSM-IV is the worst manual written in history - its purely political and it does not cover cultures or subcultures at all (psychiatrists - bible?)

Well its because we are of a sound mind, we are suffering from the torture or abuse given to us 24/7 and we don't want the seretonin or dopamine in our brains interfered with, This makes our thinking worse and you are sedated. The idea of that as well as all the other stuff happening is a big fear to a lot of people who suffer this. Its called self preservation - try to keep on an even keel as much as possible. Look after yourself - take vitamins as electronic harassment will play havoc with your health - nerves get frayed as your constantly attacked

Attacks take many different forms. Mine is relentless. But they are so similar its untrue. You can't argue with 500+ people making the same complaint and they have never met can you? The jury is in already because the average person does not see the bigger picture. They are not aware of it all. It is like saying I see 19,223 pixels of which are flesh coloured. I could say thats a picture of a belle dancer. If I stand back and see the flesh bits join up - it then becomes Gorden Brown. You see you have to have facts before one makes up ones mind.

The last paper I saw the subject written about such as mind control was in The Guardian in 2006

If you look at the history of Human experiments across the globe they are vast and range in many different forms. The latest one has started in UK and they need 500,00 volunteers. Ok that particular one is soft compared to what happened in America - MK-Ultra for one. The British have a very bad past to do with Psychiatry and how they treated their patients. The Tavistock Institute is a good example

There was a guy called James Tilley Matthews - the first psychiatric patient to have a book written about him. In 1810 he was bombarded with electromagnetic waves from a machine called the airloom. He was not believed and Haslam his doctor treated him in a very severe manner. Even chained him to the wall - in psychiatric units it is much more subtle abuse.

No Deca is not mad - nor psychotic - persecuted yes. All the patents for this equipment exists. A Dr Nick Begich demonstrated some recently and showed how the technology from 40 years ago was just effective in its use today. From what I understand that was to the European Parliament

Yes we need support - too right we do. To find the bastards who have access to this equipment. It is after all called the Silent Assassin. Some people have called it social engineering or even Eugenics. Because it is so effective in its deployment. There is evidence of people being killed by their mobile - the frequencies were upped and bang they feel over dead.

There are three states in America who have laws to protect individuals like us. The European Parliament - section 27 - recognises this problem - but it would have to be in the news often. It will eventually I am sure - be stopped. I hope so for all our sakes.

You seriously would not like this - hounded all the time 24/7/365.

I don't know if I can work - I feel ok say I am ok - but in reality not. If I say I am not then I must be ill - taking me into the mental illness category. I am stuck because I am so struck by this shit that I cannot concentrate. I can't do much - it is difficult to explain to someone who does not believe. Thankfully I have mother who believes - but she has limited power. It is some comfort though. It helps me somewhat.

P.s - how do you add a picture for the left?

Chicken

eternal_spirit

23-07-2007, 05:09 PM

Why would anyone on this forum want to read Alan Watt's disinformation?

What makes you think Watt is disinfo?

eternal_spirit

23-07-2007, 05:19 PM

chicken I think most of us here believe what your saying. I myself often wonder if I'm targeted but cannot prove it.

It's disheartening to go from site to site trying to find a way to stop or protect yourself from this harrassment, without finding any real answers. There must be a solution.

chicken

23-07-2007, 05:36 PM

Hi

Jamming it might do it. I have not gone as far as painting rooms, wearing hats, etc etc. I just don't know where to start. My thoughts are that you don't do this to someone unless there is an end. I was told mine was about Power and Money. I get the power bit. No problem. Money well - thats a tricky one.

there is a company in stevenage which builds rooms that are like
faraday cages

Ambiguous statements are what this is all about too. I am unfortunate to be hit on the gang stalking end of it too. I also have my mind read - synthetic telepathy - believe me it exists - sub-vocalised thought?

wish I knew what to do?

Chicken

erikneo

24-07-2007, 12:50 AM

Have you though deca mabey you can leave your country and live somewhere peaceful,You Know amonst amongst the tibetans or something...
Somewhere they can't fallow you.

http://www.ramsar.org/pictures/pakistan-wwf3.jpg

deca

24-07-2007, 03:14 PM

hmmm yep I would love to get away from this, but I have family and a daughter
little money. I am also pretty much western domesticated like my homely comforts , sort of brittish hommer.

chicken

24-07-2007, 03:20 PM

Well - not achieved much today - been attacked all morning - microwave sounds - pins and needles in my hands and feet and right now I feel like I am sitting on a huge speaker.

I wish they (?) would leave me alone. At least I can think straight. Oh - there will be an end point in all this I can see it. Wish I had a crystal ball.

Can't do a lot - can't just drop me body off can I and pick it up later

Chicken

chicken

24-07-2007, 03:21 PM

how do you add a picture?

Chicken

chicken

24-07-2007, 03:27 PM

how do you add a picture? on the left not in posting?

Chicken

deca

24-07-2007, 04:23 PM

goto "quick links"

select "edit profile"

on the left under "control panel"

select "Edit Avatar"

then upload your pic, but make sure you resize it first

Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 150 by 300 pixels or 19.5 KB (whichever is smaller).

chicken

24-07-2007, 11:09 PM

Deca - many thanx - that was easy once you know how:D

toppercat

24-07-2007, 11:33 PM

Hello Deca,Chicken and Everyone,
I accept it does not have to be by implants(micro receivers),however would it not be a bit of effort to follow you around and harrass you..you would have to be talking about the Government there or a major business corporation.
.....Micro Receivers seems simpler,if you have access to somebodies flat or house move seemlessly in,and put in a receiver that is hidden and then emit a high pitched noise(maybe ultrasonics)and the individual will be denied sleep,do this for a month,switch it off the said individual will go into a deep sleep.Now access the room and knock them out completely with (What did the detectives use in the old movies?)Ammonia.Just enough,not too much!Now using syringes which has a needle just long enough so it can't accidently be pushed into the skull(& brain)and press in the micro receiver.One into the left and then one into the right ear canal.
.....Remove yourself to your house and switch on your transmitter,and let the electronic harrasment begin!Which would consist of....
(1)loud noise
(2)Ultrasonics
(3)Infrasonics
(4)Human voice which consists of
(a)Repetitive phrases.
(b)Conversation between individuals
(5)Magnetism.
My theory is,There is a manual or book going around giving advice on how to electronically harass,And it is alot more freely available than you think!
.........I stand by my theory that only paedophile groups are the only people who are organized enough and who are patient enough to harass someone this badly!There the only group who would do it free gratis,everyone else would need to be paid!
regards,
Toppercat,
Ireland.

chicken

25-07-2007, 11:29 AM

Hi

"I accept it does not have to be by implants(micro receivers),however would it not be a bit of effort to follow you around and harrass you..you would have to be talking about the Government there or a major business corporation."

Well everyone has their own theory about why this has happened to them. It might be the government in the end ultimately - there is always this idea of ambiguos elements put into confuse the victim - so you still don't know who it is.

The following are possiblies - Military(govt), Societies/Fraternities/Orders, Religious Cults and Destructive "New Age" groups, Community Group/Vigilante criminal organisations, Volunteer Police Organisations etc...

Well in my case unless my thinking is totally skew - it could still either way - implant or not? I was put out - seems a bit of a cliche, by a person who I had only met four times. I wish I had never gone.....I just don't know what was done?

Harassment takes place in the home and outside - so efforts are cheaper at home in terms of manpower. These people twiddling the nobs and dials probably do this in shifts - this seems logical. Unless this is one persons full-time job? One person at home crusade? The gang stalkers - firstly it was not local people - it was a huge influx of people where I live. They have gone - but now its some local people. Local thugs? It was February when this happened - so not "visitors" as such in terms of a holiday maker.

I actually believe that this was my case I moved into a rented property and I was immediently affected by the atmosphere and we were harassed by kids knocking on doors and throwing a brick through the window - no reason too. The welcome committee? I then became ill inbetween - tried taking a computer apart? Induced illness?

Anyway the point is - my mother has this theory about this and blames the area and the house. Much more to this. She believes me by the way - she is very open minded and intelligent and thoughtful. All is possible......

I only had one night on my own - and after I has a very bloodshot eye. I could have been put out with chloroform. I also had a front tooth changed - my mother and brother have confirmed that it is not my tooth. Honest I have no evidence of going to the dentist - I am going at the moment - to get rid of it. You get a reciept and its on your statements - evidence? I don't have any to show it was me to have initially changed it?

Some one could have had a copy set of keys and entered through two doors - actually three doors including the garage.

My particular case is related to probably a new age group/cult - which relates to the local and national health mental crises teams - but of course intervention at the hospital could be via a group / organised crime - who pose as the mental health team. The woman who put me out - ran courses for our local team - nice cover eh?!

When you write it down - it looks so odd and stupid.....

I have had street theatre, colour, sensitised by various stimuli and the convoy cars which followed me plus the foot soldiers. Police, ambulance and fire crews are included in the stalking - only by car.

I have never been in trouble - completely innocent. I was a teacher.

Many people are not aware that the New Age fraternity and The Third Reich are connected - so were rascist. elitist and anarchists. In this spirit of things that New Age groups participate and organise gang stalking.

Gang stalking - is being used as a human psychological experimentation. Could be for silencing the victim. I do know a lot - which could make my situation worse. In the begining I never knew any of this existed.

If you are talking about the government - then look at Cointelpro (Counter - Intelligence Program). They are saying this is is the new version. In my case influenced by the Americans - but the British version.

I actually agree - manual must exist. It did not take me long to work it out - via the net.

Payment? - well this is quite a big area to consider. Some Private Investigators are known to be involved, underground crime, peer pressure, the need for stalkers to fit in, entertainment value? Some people think it is their civil duty.

Anyway............

Chicken

deca

25-07-2007, 12:32 PM

I think that us TI`s are just guinea pigs. Think that they just pick up targets on not what they have done but fit a profile that they can get away with experimenting on.

Or that we stand out on some mass scanning project and became aware of it, and then they have to discredit us and ruin or life in order to keep it a secret.

I also get the feeling that what they learn from us TI`s is going into a bigger project,Ie any form of counter measure is soon over come, any sort of proof is discredited .

chicken

25-07-2007, 01:05 PM

I think that us TI`s are just guinea pigs. Think that they just pick up targets on not what they have done but fit a profile that they can get away with experimenting on.

Yes - you are probably right. But not necessarily with the guinea pig theory. I believe that it is not just that. If you go to so much trouble it has to be two things in my book - "Power and Money". The reason I point this out particularly is that I was actually told this - me mum listened in to this conversation too!

The power bit is the constant harassment, which equals a kind of mind set in the victim. The outsider looking at the victim sees a person change and become someone else in effect. Lethargy and malaise, distance etc etc..... Mind control covers the gang stalking and the harassment electronically induced.

I know remove those I go back to normal.

Yes - I believe that this is case with the latter point made by you Deca - you and I for some reason were the perfect people for this type of experiment. Are they getting away with it - yes! they are in my book

You are deluding yourself if you think you have the upper hand. I think you can hold out - but for how long. Again depends on ones interpretation of that. In the mean time - they play with your mind + body - and it all gets recorded, via their means to an end - this is so they can perfect it further. Or via the mental health teams who will eventually become involved.

My case it is intertwined.

"Money" - you either lose it? Can't make it. Or you are in the system generating some for someone else. Here I mean that mental health - drugs and your stay in their lovely hotel. You as the service user - contributes a lot.

Or that we stand out on some mass scanning project and became aware of it, and then they have to discredit us and ruin or life in order to keep it a secret.

Yep - agree with that!!

I also get the feeling that what they learn from us TI`s is going into a bigger project,Ie any form of counter measure is soon over come, any sort of proof is discredited .

Yep - agree with that too!!!!

Chicken

deca

25-07-2007, 05:14 PM

I think chicken you are still looking for a reason why you have been targeted
or some group that you have had some physical contacted with.
This is so you blame yourself or some group for your harassment.
(This is only my opinion....who know what kind of illegal experiments they are conducting)

I can only really speak from my own experiencing I keep quite about my harassment sort of half believed my own theories or ones that I was lead to believe I sort of did not do the logical thing which really screwed the perpertrators up. I did not tell the metal health whats was going on in the early
days, I did not make accusations against people and groups. I did not move away or gave up work even thou I was under unbelievable pressure torture to do so.

The perps use psychological techniques backed up with physical stimuli good/num/bad on you to provoke reactions out of you ether physically,emotionally or mentally a lot of the time this is done on you not to effect you but to convince others that you are mently ill, dulisonal and paranoid.

After speaking to you the other night I remembered in my early days I thought that everything was staged around me and I was so important(i did not know that there was any other TI`s out there)
I generally I thought I was in some kind of real life Truman show.I even did climb into my attic and almost knocked a hole in the roof and was going to climb out and see if I was in some kind of film set.This was before I did any research.
I don`t like taking about what I thought and did as it just plays into the mental illness trap and deflects the focus of exposing the abuse of the technology.
Once you learn that they can alter your mind state quicker than drugs and distort your sense`s use your own mind and thoughts against you.You have to learn not to jump to assumptions and play into panic and fear but try and
stay clam and make judgments over a long period of time.
This is hard I know my frustration gets the better of me and then people tring
to tell me that I have some kind of mental disorder or that I believe everything on the internet and so on.

What will it take for people to do some research and stop this!!!

chicken

25-07-2007, 07:24 PM

Well - yes I am Deca. It is very early days for me - five months exactly.

This is because it is important for me to reconcile what is happening with what is going on and why.

I don't blame myself as such - only that I wish I had not visited that woman. I would not be like this now would I. She came out with all sorts of bullshit which actually relate to some of what you are saying, Such as.

"You cannot blame others"
"You cannot argue with reality"
"You cannot not communicate"
"its just a thought"
"labels"
"truisms"
"beliefs"
"you can do this yourself"

Thinking about the above I will explain briefly - reality? am I reality with all that has happened. I know I am - hard to convince others. You cannoy not communicate? and its just a thought - mind reading - bugging - etc
What is true and consider your beliefs too? - I do know - just cannot get it across as - far-fetched
if you fall apart with it all - gang stalking and electronic harassment. On the outside - all your family will see is a shell of a person and not believe your ramblings. On the inside I feel and see it all. I do not imagine things. I do not have that kind of imagination.
You will seen to do all this yourself - if I protest I am not ill I will be blamed. If I am ill I cannot be blamed. Is that the right way to think?

I cannot end up in the mental health unit - they are part of it.

Ok - I relayed all this as it happened to my mate and she thought it was very odd as what I was getting was not really coaching in its normal form. I was told that not to make assumptions. Not to take it personally, make no judgements the fourth statement was odd - but cannot remember.

All the above we thought was odd at the time. It all seemed harmless stuff and thought no more of it. I then analysed all the books I was encouraged to read and this crappy spiritual mix that I was given "new age". all books related to cults - The main books were related to Michael Rosenberg - we think it is brother of Est founder which then became Landmark Forum - which is a therapy cult. She also sent me courses to do take part in and made a request for cash. I was also told not to seek help otherwise I would stop walking.

I was rung up and told that this was about Scientology/Landmark and that was before all this happened. I was told a load of things and that it related to mental health. I thankfully had a witness - so can relay that back with absolute confidence. I was told not to go the press, there would be a support group in London, that I was worked out by the oxford analysis test - in english this is a personality test. I need to see a psychiatrist - weird stuff. My witness and I looked at each other in disbelief. This was after my visit to the coach. Don't forget she put me out too.

"New Age" cults have been known to relate to the third reich. Gang stalking has a connection between new age philosophy and the third reich. Many new age writers and thinkers in the past were out spoken racists, elitists and anarchists. It is in this spirit that this is called the "dark side" that new-age groups today participate in and organise gang stalking

I was also told if you blame others you blame yourself. If you blame yourself you blame others? This is bollocks - I have been had - big time. Am I going to recover? I am not mentally ill. I am a slave - stuck with the torture they the bastards dish out.

I was also told it was connected with the occoult. Scientology is connected to Aleister Crowley who was into satan. Alot of people do not know that Ron Hubbard was a pupil of Aleister Crowley.

yeah - I am looking for the reason. Wouldn't you. Alright I could get my pretty lacy knickers in a twist. Too grounded for that.

Actually I think I've got it!!

But this list I wrote applies to you to some extent too - this is psychological torture.

I have not really blamed anyone to their face - have asked questions and have met my perps. I am bugged - I get very strong related texts about my life, that relates directly. I had a temporary job - I need to get a new one now.

The perps use psychological techniques backed up with physical stimuli good/num/bad on you to provoke reactions out of you ether physically,emotionally or mentally a lot of the time this is done on you not to effect you but to convince others that you are mently ill, dulisonal and paranoid.

I have not reacted badly - only when I was harassed by helicopters overhead - at home and the mental health unit. Same one - blue, but not police one. I ended up running around the house - it was so bad - that other neighbours came out in much suprise as the helicopter was so low.

After speaking to you the other night I remembered in my early days I thought that everything was staged around me and I was so important(i did not know that there was any other TI`s out there)

This is a classic - they call this grandiose behaviour or thinking - I have not mentioned anything to the psychiatrists others only. Unfortunately the others relayed it back - so I am labelled grandiose.

I don`t like taking about what I thought and did as it just plays into the mental illness trap and deflects the focus of exposing the abuse of the technology.

The technology fits into the beamers and waivies trap I am afraid. The tin foil hat brigade. It all exists sure and there is enough evidence out there. Don't I know it!!! AND you do too. But how does one make the bridge from yourself to the technology. You mentioned in a post that the pdoc said that why you? - why are you so important to be targeted - mmm - a case of grandiose thinking in the lovely DSM-IV manual. Written by pdoc's from over the world and edited by the military apparently. Hence the psychosis hypothesis states that you are psychotic if you are chased by helicopters and MI5

once you learn that they can alter your mind state quicker than drugs and distort your sense`s use your own mind and thoughts against you.You have to learn not to jump to assumptions and play into panic and fear but try and stay calm and make judgments over a long period of time.

I have my mind read - this could be difficult - gang stalkers follow us about with time for organisation. I try to be calm - and am an expert in this. I just get upset. I know what you are saying absolutely

This is hard I know my frustration gets the better of me and then people tring to tell me that I have some kind of mental disorder or that I believe everything on the internet and so on.

Oh god yeah - I get that - but I do tell them I don't and that I have cross referenced stuff - actually I have. I used to teach and have worked it out - misinformation and disinformation is clear for me.

I have a massive pile of paper relating to the different subjects that cross over this massive subject area. I have been told I made this all up - I found it all on the net. Why one has to ask is why would I waste my time - truisms kick in.

My worry is that I am a target - and they do have plans for me. God - I have been treated so harshly. One thing they do was internally reverse me. They call this an internal shift and can be considered a form of disassociation. I was in reverse. I have had my breathing altered to the point I had to really concentrate to get it back into rythem. Then it was knocked out again. I have been checked over - by doc - no physical problems.

I dread whats next. Its inhumane to treat someone that way in the comfort of their own home.

Chicken

notaslave

25-07-2007, 10:07 PM

A couple of questions more for my own curiousity than anything else...

Do either of you (Deca or Chicken) set off store alarms, security at airports etc?

Wrist watches - do they keep good time on your wrist?

Or any other such oddity?

chicken

26-07-2007, 10:36 AM

Well lol:rolleyes:

I did set off the something in the bank - no I was not robbing it!!! I got masses of feedback off one of the microphones. My head was what kept setting it off. The cashier was very very suprised. I kept demonstrating it - to see if it was true.

Nothing else? Watch keeps good time. Watch is pure silver. Including strap.

Could not decide if you were taking the ........ or not?

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 01:48 PM

This is a hard one,
It is very easy to blame to perpetrators for every thing that goes wrong in your
life. So when odd things happen,pc crashes,alarms and bells go off.The perpetrators will be at the top of the list.They will convince you that it was them when it was not and convince you it was not them when it was.

Now when they can detect and sense the em fields emitted from your brain and
duplicate them.Then screwing electrical devices around you probably ant`t that
hard for them.

I have had my pc messed with,monitor flicks resizes it self,pc will act odd copy
and paste will stop working another functions will freeze and this happens mostly when posting about mc & eh.
I think my playstation is trip out a lot.Sometimes it will take several resets to boot a game up.This is I guess as my daughter plays it and it keeps her happy
for a while and does not bother me,when it does not work she gets wound up
and that gives me add stress.

I did ware a watch and it did stop once and it started again later and I did not need to change the battery and it keeps pretty good time,strap broken on it so I don`t ware it at the moment,I blamed to perps for that,I was under a bad attack at the time lots of shocks to my body.

Also when I was in the loony ward there was a lot of testing and work men
check the alarm system, but don`t know if that had anything to do with it.

One thing I have learn t is that I am sensitive to alarms,sirens and horns most
high tone noise and warning signals. I guess that they are made to grab our attention and also probably I am subject to lower end sounds to make me feel
depressed and sick and slow.

chicken I don`t think notaslave is taken the piss but generally try to help and
understand

This is hard for none TI`s to grasp and understand, There is no refence or much knowledge out in the world.
Some people have read and know a bit about MKultra but seem to forget that happened 30 odd years ago, How far has electronics and technology came in that time?.

chicken

26-07-2007, 02:42 PM

Deca

yes - it hard because we are talking the difference between reality and non reality are we not?

Like you - I do not like writing - because you cannot expand on your point quickly. Otherwise the writing gets very long. But I like writing for communication purposes generally.

yes - like all gang stalked / electronic harassment victims suffer from a lack of trust. This is going to be obvious. Try to put yourself in my shoes. Please do not think I am over sensitive and being rude. It is just a note of point. I used to be the most go get person - in a educational setting. Always had time for everybody. Now.........

I guess it is easy to blame the perps for everything - sure! Life throws things at you without reason and it happens. I understand that - course I do.

You then become paranoid - about everything - questioning everything. Well thats what they want is it not? I have all sorts of strange things happen on the computer and this happened recently.

Now when they can detect and sense the em fields emitted from your brain and
duplicate them.Then screwing electrical devices around you probably ant`t that hard for them.

but is this true really - can they do that? I suppose that I am being manipulated remotely. Body problems and earlier on mind manipulations. I still think that I have an implant.

I also had some strange behaviour from my phone - where at 2.18am starts ringing. I had it plugged in to listen to the radio. Again at 2.30am where the alarm went off - which was set at 8.15am. Then whilst it was listening after to the radio - the plug leads to the mic was still in it started playing. Each time it woke my husband? Anyway he was fairly chilled. I have just bought an ipod!!

I mentioned recently on the fedame forum that nearly all my mothers electrical appliances in her kitchen died. Seriously that is fact and at the same time my brother had some strange stuff happen to him + two visits to the hospital in days for two seperate things. Also ebay purchases which were not what they were sold as described. Ok - could my family be targeted too? All in the last few weeks.

All this started after I went to the coach - who put me out. Yes - I know!!!!

I am concerned - just been to dentist - had two caps removed. I still have it - the sensations - I wanted dentist to remove the filling + replace it but would not. Teeth changed - so this could be a blind alley? My family agree with me teeth had changed. Both teeth were a different colour? He thought it was odd too?

This is hard for none TI`s to grasp and understand, There is no refence or much knowledge out in the world.
Some people have read and know a bit about MKultra but seem to forget that happened 30 odd years ago, How far has electronics and technology came in that time?.

I know - its not exactly in the news is it?

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 03:32 PM

just check these links

from the army
http://call.army.mil/products/thesaur/00016275.htm
Brain pulses stimulate deep sleep
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6614433.stm
US military unveils heat-ray gun
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6297149.stm
it penetrates your skin to your nerve endings
I don`t think it heats you up but fools your nerves into think you are heating up
How hot is the heat-ray gun?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6300985.stm
Science has designs on your brain
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5410092.stm
celldar
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,811027,00.html
Electrical fields can make you sick
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article565208.ece
demonstrates microwave hearing!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7apZl_lt0A
Remote control brain sensor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2361987.stm
Think it was only CIA who played with LSD?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVVgOO3P_Yg
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,1716708,00.html

deca

26-07-2007, 04:17 PM

Now when you look at Epilepsy
fits can be triggered by light
but its not how bright a light is or how near you are to the source
but the flicker rate (frequency)
http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photo.html

chicken

26-07-2007, 04:24 PM

Thanks - for all the news stuff - Deca!!

The first one does not lead to anything?

I still think that there is no doubt that the technology exists.

I also think that the perps have got a higher reason for me - setting me up to try and bang myself on the head. I don't think this is going to be plain sailing. Remember the UK Cult group said it was about Power and Money and my life would be difficult. I now have limited credibility and believeability due to what has happened recently.

I think that also that because money is the next step or part of the equation - possibly my days are numbered. I don't know - without proportioning the blame to others. This technology does not allow people to believe or see it. So people will think its all your doing. This annoys me - impossible to get others to see what is happening right under their noses and yet they are totally blind.

People go about their merry way - as you mentioned when we spoke. I always considered of late - that this knowledge is like a higher consciousness. You can hear it, feel it, not see it - some people experience that I know. I don't though.

This is the first phase - why tell me - remove it or loose it? Well ambiguos as it is as usual its hard to work that out.

I am just concerned all round - you don't treat people that harshly unless there is a successful long term arrangement. This journey - is a crap one. Remember I said I know who mine are.

I wish that this was in the public domain and it can be sorted. Call in the police or reputable group to sort out your parasite.

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 05:13 PM

See this is the problem

you can`t prove it and you can`t get of it

this only will drive you mad and dispear by its self

They like to give you problems that there no answers

Now what I can`t understand is if I suppose to think that I can`t prove this
why do they put so much effort to buggering us up.
surely they could electronically harass us then stop and we could still not prove this.Surly when we are getting harassed or monitored then there a chance that it could be detected.

or

Are they just using us as lab rats running round a maze solving problems

http://www.abrg.group.shef.ac.uk/projects/reverb/public/

hmmm my favorite company is involved again?
BAE Systems Plc

chicken

26-07-2007, 05:45 PM

I know - you can't see it and you cannot get rid of it - someone or some people are trying to destroy my life - but as I said you cannot see it so it will be seen as your fault.

I know no answers - so you have to live with it? Maybe not I have a few ideas!!

I currently have lots of base in my feet - pumping out music at a fast pace and I can feel the beat and throbbing of the accoustics. I am still plugged in and they have left the hissing out and music has left my head. I could usually hear both the stuff/sound I was putting in and the stuff the perps were putting in. So much conflict. My situation has been very different over the months - the manual is being used.

Firstly I was reversed - internal shift, then, I went round in circles - could not get off , then I was gang stalked putting me in the local mental unit, then I was gang stalked both by car and by foot - this is still happening, I now have had a clear head - but now have the body attacks in its various forms. Its blinkin weird. What is next? - will I start back at the begining. Operation Monarch? its the music thing too - this was a classic approach for the victim to be subjected to

Currently listening to some Syd Barrett !

I used to have loads of pictures sent to my mobile - monkeys, rats , people behind bars that kind of thing. I complained to orange but they are still there. My mother has seen them. She sees it all with me - its a set up.

God - all of this is so weird. I know I have repeated myself.

Chicken

chicken

26-07-2007, 05:53 PM

I heard you mention BAE systems - don't know too much about them. The link I read with interest. However a point - how do you think you got hit? Implant or Satalite. Remote viewing.

I put my husband off getting wifi - due to the fact it can be hacked in the air if not protected. Even so is it really protected after that - if you press the right buttons. I think it is because I am on the computer all the time. LOL

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 06:41 PM

Probably a lot is done to you is to see and understand how the brain works
who knows what data or techniques they will learn from this and what other projects it will go into.

Also might be trying to find ways of upsetting your enviorment by other means
I think a lot what you experance is done by remote using techniques to manipulate your thoughts and heighten your fears and assumptions.
I can`t understand that if they are devolping a remote system that they would
risk larges amounts of people stalking you.I can understand that they would defiantly alter your perception of what is going on, and build up your believe of
stalking.I know because this happens to me a lot of times, and when this does you feel that it is real but if you take time to reflect over the situation you realize that they are altering and playing into your fear.
One of the main reason that they use this remote system is that there is very little proof and is hard to detect, I am pretty sure that local people would noticed lots of strangers hanging around you waiting for you to leave your house. Also the amount of cctv cameras would catch these people, another reason why they are using remote techniques to harass people with.

The perpetrator's are spending a lot of time making us appear crazy and ruin or lifes so know one takes what we say and does any research on it.
anybodies brain can be fooled easily just look at some optical illusions
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5323

Also just ask anybody who has took any hallucinogenic drugs just how it alters there perception of the world and all the weird visuals and sound.

Remember they are insert feelings sounds into your body by passing your normal sense.

Also people with fear of spiders don`t need a real spider do drive them into a
panic

Arachnophobia is defined as an inordinate fear of spiders. This phobia can often be triggered by the thought of or sometimes even a picture of a spider. A serious case of arachnophobia is much different than someone who doesn't like spiders. Many people who are afraid of spiders have feelings of panic entering into a situation where spiders may be present.

http://www.phobiascured.com/arachnophobia.htm

I not saying that you have not been stalk but I think they are abusing that fear in you to degrade your life and make out you are over paranoid to others.

What I would do is video situations ware you are being stalk then watch them
over and over again a different times of the day, sometimes spontaneous and
see if your perception of the event is different.

How many people have jump in a horror movie ....the creepy scene the spooky music the build up of the anticipation's of some nasty surprise.

You just would not believe the spooky shit they have done on me.

chicken

26-07-2007, 07:09 PM

yes - loads have been done to me. Have a had a reasonable first half of the week - until today and the real crap has started again.

probably a lot is done to you is to see and understand how the brain works who knows what data or techniques they will learn from this and what other projects it will go into.

I am not sure - but can they not have found that out via others probably - I was there at the wrong time. The other person who rented this property became paranoid? - we was told that in great detail by the lady next door.

We find that really odd - don't you - or is that too much of a coincidence.

I think a lot what you experance is done by remote using techniques to manipulate your thoughts and heighten your fears and assumptions. I can`t understand that if they are devolping a remote system that they would risk large amounts of people stalking you

Yes - by remote either way. One of the areas that I worked on in my coaching sessions was fear - it is a main and central component of certain well known cults. Also they do personality tests too.

I was told by a cult group that this would happen - but it was not called gang stalking.

The large amounts of stalking - well yes everywhere I go. They are trying to separate me and my husband for a reason. He is so blind to it.

I know because this happens to me a lot of times, and when this does you feel that it is real but if you take time to reflect over the situation you realize that they are altering and playing into your fear.

Well thats what this psychological warfare attack is about - is raising the fear factor - playing and manipulating your mind.

One of the main reason that they use this remote system is that there is very little proof and is hard to detect, I am pretty sure that local people would noticed lots of strangers hanging around you waiting for you to leave your house. Also the amount of cctv cameras would catch these people, another reason why they are using remote techniques to harass people with.

There have been a lot of changes around my area - lots of new people - new business starts, new neighbours. Some people have said that this is a classic approach in terms of the gang stalking phenomena.

There was a time when I was attacked in the garden - via the waves. I saw and I wish I had used a camera to collect evidence - there was a very large set of speakers - pointing out towards the garden. Now is that weird.

I see what you are saying - about the rest. My thinking is fine and its just people just do not believe that gang stalking and electronic harassment exists.

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 08:08 PM

what you got to realize is theres about 100 TI`s in the uk scattered about.
now I am not sure if its all run from a central location or there are sperate units
running there own programs.

I think that most TI`s belevie its some local group involved in there harrassment, I know I did and was lead into that belief and the area got wider as I tested that theory out.

I think they try and convince you that its a local problem so you look for answers in your local area, and things and people that you have done or been involved with.....this is what I call the blame game...turning the blame on yourself and people that you know.

Now if there is a local involvement then they will know little about it (need to know bases) ie they might just pass names and details to some seemly unconnected scheme or database.

What you find in mind control is theres lots of types and use similar techquies
I recently went to a company training scheme and it was full of social mind control "you were made to feel odd and have the spot light on you if you did
not join in and have a good time".
A lot of these things use similar ideas and techniques to try and change/alter
your mind state.

I have realized that the techniques have not changed that much but how they deliver this to me is different by remote.

We all most of seen movies with torture and brain washing going on, even clockwork orange where they force somebody to watch and here stuff.

We most of seen the pictures and tv broadcasts of so called terrorist reciving
sensory deprivation and sexual humiliation.

chicken

26-07-2007, 09:00 PM

I don't know the facts regarding how many TI's there are in the UK. How come you know that? What facts u got - where did that come from?

I can tell you though it still comes back to one thing and that is mental health - because that is where you end up isn't it. Of course there are many other people who just don't have access to the internet and do not realise that they are targeted. Maybe they just accept the higher order - the psychiatrist and take the drugs and then the perps just let them get better - maybe they have served their time?

I think there is a national database and so are passed onto the next area - when I returned back from my birth county - back up here. I was met by the welcoming committee - I had to sit outside a police station and the car was collected by my husband. It was horrible

What about those who joined the hearing voices network in the UK - John Bullimore might be someone you ought to contact - he maybe able to help you. He speaks all over the country.

I still think that this would fit the anti-psychiatry cult.

I still think mental health has got something to do with it - or something that slides in as mental health - a phone call can be redirected to somewhere else. Every time - they take ages to come. I think they come from far away.

I was given a piece about Hooponoporo - hawaiian healing by Joe Vitale by this woman - you can find it on the mind control forum site. It was about - a pdoc who sat in his office and the patients healed themselves. I thought it bollocks at the time. This has to be connected to what we are suffering from - you cannot go and see any doc about this at all. Self healing?

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/hooponopono25jul06.shtml

I was told it was a well known cult group - but of course it could be a false lead either way it is a crime to keep someone entrained in this manner. Alright local, or even nationwide and worldwide - mine would fit that aspect if it were true. A massive organisation with loads of money - which could create the vast amount of stalkers I have been telling you about. Links everywhere. There has been according to the net a connection with this group and electronic harassment/psychotronics?

You could be right - you might be wrong about it being a big group or a small group. You said it was BAE for you - It could be that the tech comes from BAE?

By the way - how did you test the theory out? About how many in UK?

I know - any company or organisation that you work for will have their own training methods. When you have children - there is a form of mind control there as well. It is everywhere.

When you have what we have - this is out of the ordinary and so it goes it is not seen and accepted. Once more people are aware of it then it will be dealt with I am sure. Over on the other forum - FFCHS - town hall - someone has a court hearing and the kennedy who exposed MK-Ultra is looking into this case personally. So it happens in America - what are we going to do over here. Will it be another 10 years before we catch up.

Of course, seen all that you say - like "Clockwork Orange" and the "News" with the Americans - treating prisoners in a terrible way and the other way around. What about the neutrals who are abducted and then forced to admit on tv they have commited a crime.

My crime - I don't have one to my name. Have you?

This is awful - degrading as you have to swallow it. You cannot escape from it. You are treated in a appalling way and is far - fetched to explain. But I can tell you it happens. It is happening to me. Again I have been blasted all afternoon - with regards to my treatment. My left foot is in agony - with very fast music blaring out of it. It is unbelievable I know - but I don't lie and could not make this up if I tried.

I am worried

Chicken

chicken

26-07-2007, 09:21 PM

Found this on the Mind Control Warriors Site

Perpetrater Links

A 1./ ABOUT PERPETRATER GROUPS
http://www.raven1.net/perpgroups.htm

A 5/ Attempts to Recruit Victims to be Perpetrators
http://www.raven1.net/tryrecruit.htm

A. 2/ ABOUT STREET THEATER
http://www.raven1.net/abtstth.htm
A. 2/ GANGSTALKING
PERPETRATER STALKING GANGS
http://www.gangstalking.ca
A. 3/ ABOUT TERRORIST STALKING IN AMERICA
1. tactics used by cause stalkers 2. personality types of the perpetrators. 3. stalker groups financial sources 4. harassment methods and goals. and lots lots more !!!!
http://www.raven1.net/terstalk.htm
A. 4/ Respones From Questionaire
Questions to perps
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/respones.htm

A. 4/ THE PERPETRATORS (who Would want this job?)
1. what is a perpetrator. 2. how may a perpetrator be identified. 3. who are the perps 4. how could anyone be forced into perpdom 5. who sould want this job? 6. why would anyone want to be a perpetrator ?
http://www.stopcovertwar.com/perps.html

A. 4/ Who Are The Perps ?
Mind Control Discussion Forum Topic
http://p205.ezboard.com/fmindcontroldiscussionforumfrm67.showMessage?topic ID=14.topic

BULLY ONLINE
SERIAL BULLY
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm

Mind Control Discussion Forum / Topic Perpetrators
http://p205.ezboard.com/fmindcontroldiscussionforumfrm66

THE SOCIALISED PSYCHOPATH OR SOCIOLPATH
GREAT LINK FROM MEMBER
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm#sociopath
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler
Appendix One The Programmers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/4224

A Thought For Multi-Stalker Victims
CATSTALKING
http://www.communigate.co.uk/brad/copycatstalking/

COPYCAT STALKING
http://uk.geocities.com/copycatstalkers/

Citizens Against Technological and Community-bassed Harassment
http://www.c-a-t-c-h.ca

Common Traits of stalkers
http://www.esia.net/Common_Traits_of_Stalkers.htm

Copy Cat Stalkers
Target Mentality ? An Alternative Perhaps ?
http://www.communigate.co.uk/brad/gangstalkingbullyinghypnoticpsychic
attack2/

Dealing with stalkers
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/victims/dealingwithstalker
s

Forms of Stalking
http://www.esia.net/Forms_of_Stalking.htm

Gang Stalking
Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gangstalking/

Gang Stalking Interview Guide 2004
http://www.raven1.net/gsivwpublic.htm

GangStalking
http://www.gangstalking.ca

GangStalking ( How to fight this )
GangStalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3553

GangStalking Sesitizations
How it Happens www.gangstalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3552

Gaslighting (book review)
How to Drive Your Enemies Crazy (gangstalking.ca)
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/gaslight.htm m_c_resurch_f_m

General Information
http://www.stopcovertwar.com/enter.html

Guide To Dealing With Police Harassment
http://www.waningmoon.com/guide/library/lib0006.shtml

Harassment Hits Close to Home For Mentally ill
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/39/6/62-a

House passes tought anti-gang legislation
http://www.sptimes.com/205/05/12/Worldandnation/House_passes_new_anti
.shtml
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3575

How to know if you are a target of multiple stakers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3557

How we can fight GangStalking
http://www.gangstalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3553

Mobbing: Emotional Abuse in the American Workplace
Eleanor White Book Review
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3556

Multistalkervictims org
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/

Police Sponsored Gang-Stalking Exposed
http://www.freeshop.us/site/store.php?mem_id=1081

Preventing Harassment
http://www.readyforwork.sk.ca/fast-facts/preventingharassment.htm

Psychological Harassment Information Association
http://psychologicalharassment.netfirms.com/

SEE ARE TRACKING FOLDER ALSO
Mind control research forum folder
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/links

STALKING SAFTY TIPS
http://www.esia.net/safety_tips.htm

Stalking
WIKIPEDIA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

Stalking Definitions
http://www.stalkingbehavior.com/definiti.htm

Stalking Resource Center
http://www.ncvc.org/src/main.aspx?dbID=dash_Home

Stalking Survival tips

http://www.stalkingvictims.com/survival/survival.htm

Stalking The new epicemic of the new millenium
http://www.esia.net/

Stalking Victims
http://www.stalkingvictims.com/

State Stalking Laws
http://www.esia.net/State_Stalking_Laws.htm

THE Antistalking Web Site
http://www.antistalking.com/resource.htm

THE OFFENCE OF STALKING
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/ourlaws/papers/stalking.htm

Terrorist Stlking in America
Book Review
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/bookreviews.htm

The offence of Stalking
Discussion Paper / Criminal Code
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/ourlaws/papers/stalking.htm

Weird World of Group Stalking and Electronic Harassment
Collection of Links
http://www.stalkingme.zoomshare.com/2.shtml

What is stalking ?
http://www.esia.net/what_is_stalking.htm

Why Gang Stalking Perhaps
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3555
http://www.communigate.co.uk/brad/piesnpeas/page1.phtml

Why GangStalking is not a crime
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3458

Allegations of brainwashing within religious cults

http://www.religioustolerance.org/brain_wa.htm

Association Principle
I mentally connect things together, and then automatically follow the links I have made.
http://changingminds.org/principles/association.htm

BRAINWASHING / Book
Russian Textbook on Psycholplitics
http://web.archive.org/web/20020812140901/land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/brainwsh.shtml

BRAINWASHING?
http://www.rickross.com/brainwashing.html

Biderman's Chart of coersion
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3508
http://www.nwrain.net/~refocus/coerchrt.html

Bonding Principle
I will do what my friends ask of me.
http://changingminds.org/principles/bonding.htm

Brain Washing & Mind Control techniques
http://www.phinnweb.org/neuro/brainwash/ .

Brainwashing and its Consiquences
http://www.surveillanceissues.com/article_june2004_brainwashing.pdf

Code of Ethics for Spiritual Guides
http://www.csp.org/development/code.html?FACTNet

Coercive Mind Control Tactics
http://www.factnet.org/coercivemindcontrol.html?FACTNet

Evidence Principle
I cannot deney what I see with my own eyes.
http://changingminds.org/principles/evidence.htm

Excerpts From Cults in Our Midst
Margaret Thaler Singer PhD
http://www.forum8.org/forum8/singer/singer_cults.htm#top

Explanations
Explanations for how persuasions work
http://changingminds.org/explanations/explanations.htm
FACTPACK
coercive persuasion
http://www.factnet.org/factpack.htm?FACTNet

How the Cult Programs People
Part 1. Author: Svali
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/41699

Hurt and Rescue principle / Brainwashing
Principle/ How it works/ So What?
http://changingminds.org/principles/hurt_rescue.htm

IS SOMEONE TRYING TO ETHICALLY OR UNETHCALLY INFLUENCE YOU ?
Check out the influence continuum
http://www.factnet.org/rancho4.htm?FACTNet

Lifton's Brainwashing Processes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3507
http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/lifton_brainwashing.htm

MIND CONTROL (BrainWashing)
Also other great links
http://skepdic.com/mindcont.html
Methods and Examples of Mind Control and its Effets on adults
mind control research forum message 3875
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/3890/mind_ctl.html

Milieu Control
Communication is limited
http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/lifton_thought_reform.htm#mil

Most common brainwashing techniques
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3473

PROPAGANDA
http://www.phinnweb.com/neuro/propaganda/

Psychology Therories
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3546
http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/a_alphabetic.htm

Report of the APA Task Force on Deceptive and Indirect Techniques of Persuasion and Control
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3569
http://www.rickross.com/reference/apologist/apologist23.html

THE BATTLE FOR YOUR MIND
Techniques Being Used On The Public
http://www.whale.to/w/mind.html

THE RAPE OF THE MIND
The Psychology of Thought Control Etc. Columbia University Lecturer
http://www.ninehundred.net/control/mc-ch1.html

The Real Secrets Of Coercive Persuasion
How TO / Advertisment with facts
http://www.maxxmktg.com/data2.html

The Tactics used to create undue psychological and social influence
Tactics of mind control
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3333

Thought Reform Exists : Organized, Programmatic Influence
http://www.factnet.org/Thought_Reform_Exists.htm?FACTNet

Wikipedia / brainwashing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_washing
more links on mind-control, persuasion and hypnosis
http://p205.ezboard.com/fmindcontroldiscussionforumfrm40.showMessage?index =7&topicID=83.topic

LINKS ON RESEARCH THAT MIGHT BE WHY WE HEAR VOICES OTHER DONT

A. 1 /COMMUNICATING VIA THE MICROWAVE AUDITORY EFFECT
http://raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

A. 2. /MICROWAVES AND BEHAVIOR
DON R. JUSTESEN
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/justesen.htm

A. 3. /DIAGRAM
http://www.raven1.net/v2skull.gif

A. 4. /Effects of microwaves on blood flow of rats
NASA
http://www.raven1.net/v2s-nasa.htm

A. 5./J SHARP D
http://www.raven1.net/hypno2s.gif

A. 6 /Microwaves and Behavior
http://www.raven1.net/v2success.htm

A. 7. /Microwave Hearing on the Web
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/microwaveHearing.html

A. 8. /PULSED MICROWAVE
Raven 1
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#PMICR

A. 9. /Biological Effects of Radiowaves and microwaves
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~alb/ugly/prepare.html

B 1/ ACCOUSTIC SPOTLIGHT, CAN TARGET ONE PERSON
www.raven1.
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#ASPOT

B 1/Accoustic spotlight
http://www.holosonics.com/

B 2./ULTRASOUND AND VOICE-FM
RAVEN 1 . NET
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#USOUN

B. 1/Acoustic hetrodyne
Principle
http://www.raven1.net/acouhetr.gif

B. 2/ U.S. Navy Contract for Ultrasonic Acoustic Heterodyning Technology
http://www.raven1.net/aegis.htm

B. 2/ ULTRASONIC MIND CONTROL COMMON UNCLASSIFFIED
Raven 1
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#AERIA
B. 2/ Ultrasonic acoustic heterodyning tech
U.S. NAVY Contract
http://www.raven1.net/aegis.htm

B. 2/ Ultrasound What is it ??
Dr. Evan L. Cooper
http://www.bk.psu.edu/faculty/cooper/ultrasnd.html

B. 2/Ultra sound hearing tool
Flanagan Neurophone
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/neurophone.html

B.2/ U.S. ARMY ULTRASOUND WEAPON PROJECT
RAVEN 1
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm#ARMYW

C. 1/ TC HyperSonic Sound as a Weapon
http://www.raven1.net/hssweapon.htm

Harassment For Dummies
Woddy Norris device
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/191

Human auditory system response to Modulated Electromagnetic energy
http://www.raven1.net/frey.htm

Investors Are Building Mountains Out Of tiny tech
Carbon nanotubes lodge have properties that allow them tooperate as electrical conduits inside the body
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/282

MILITARY USE OF SILENT SOUND
http://www.raven1.net/silsoun2.htm

Voices
marks geocities
http://www.geocities.com/marks_mind_control_page/voices_links.html

Voices and the Brain !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/3705

Woody Norris has a way of getting inside you head.
HyperSonic Sound
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2332
X /American Technologies Corporation
American technology corporation award
http://www.raven1.net/atcag982.htm

A few of the mindcontrol websites put on for individuals exposing the crime of all time

http://www.us-government-torture.com/links.html

ARE THEY PLAYING WITH YOUR MIND
http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/brainstrain_mindcontrol.html

Christians Against Mental Slavery
http://www.slavery.org.uk

Collection of links
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/#ring

Collection of links 2
http://www.raven1.net/othsites.htm

Collection of links 3
http://www.slavery.org.uk/websites.htm

Conspiriatiorium 101
http://www.conspiratorium101.com/

Conspiricy site
http://www.hourofthetime.com/

Ezboard M-C Forum
M-C Discussion Forum
http://pub151.ezboard.com/bmindcontroldiscussionforum

MIND CONTROL .COM
http://www.mindcontrolforum.com/ .

MIND JUSTICE
Formerly citizense against human rights abuse
http://www.mindjustice.org/

MINDCONTROL FORUM
http://mindcontrolforums.com/index.htm .

Magnet,
mindcontrol ( we are all human guinea pigs
http://webmagnet.freeservers.com/m-mindc.htm

Mind Control Links
http://www.universalway.org/Foreign/mindcontrol.html
t
Mind control & Brainwashing Links
Spirit Caller
http://www.spiritcaller.net/links/mind_control.htm

More Web-sties
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/message/8276

Other Web Sites
Great collection of links to M.C. ETC sites
http://www.raven1.net/othsites.htm

Parafiles
Message Board
http://www.theparafiles.com/articles/mindcontrol.html

RAVEN 1 . NET
http://www.raven1.net/ .

Raven1.net Other Web Sites
Great collection of links to M.C. ETC sites
http://www.raven1.net/othersites.htm
Ritual Abuse , Ritual Crime and Healing
Great collection of links to M.C. ETC sites
http://www.ra-info.org/related/programming.shtml
WHALE
http://www.whale.to/index.htm

m-c tech, techniques and plolitics
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/ .

Regards
Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 10:38 PM

I think that bae systems probably had an involvement in the making and development of this kind of technology they are into radar,communication's,satellites and almost all kinds of military gear and have been moving into "homeland security" products in resent years.They also have connections and partnerships with other large military complexes all over the world.

They also came out of Marconi

http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/marconi/collection/history.php

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/sdi-deaths.html

chicken

26-07-2007, 10:41 PM

Ok - will have a look at those.

Deca -

I don't know the facts regarding how many TI's there are in the UK. How come you know that? What facts u got - where did that come from?

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 10:45 PM

I think john allman told me there were about 100 TI`s in the uk that were going
public on the internet or speaking out.

chicken

26-07-2007, 10:51 PM

oh! ok. We need to create a bank of these people. Wonder if we ought to create a forum just for us - strength in numbers then.

By the way where did you get your bone conduction headphone thingy from. Amazon is selling one at the moment - both ears. Cannot get to it site always difficult to get it to load

Chicken

deca

26-07-2007, 11:03 PM

I got mine off ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Motorola-Ear-bone-conduction-covert-earpiece-MA-V600_W0QQitemZ140046217725QQihZ004QQcategoryZ72405 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

but I would wait and go for a newer one

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=bone%20conduct ion&search_in_description=1
works out as 57 pounds(uk) including shipping
these look good too of amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Bone-Conduction-Headphone-Alljoy-AG110/dp/B000OYF43A/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3861063-7343227?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185481451&sr=8-1
they don`t ship to uk
any web page problems use a proxy
This is a web based one. just paste you url in
http://www.ninjaproxy.com/

deca

27-07-2007, 12:55 AM

When I spent some time at a mates house 50 odd miles away in a large city.The
perpertrators was still trying to convince me that the town that I live was beaming this into me and bus loads of people were trying to get me, And vans were coming through with teams to bump me off. Also my perpetrator "control" made up he was control of the whole of Lancashire instead of just my town and now I had to leave Lancashire to get of his system.
I have been in scotland hundreds of miles away, no loss of signal.

Its a military/government/secret servis/police system not some a cult group or a mental health org unless its something like this
Revealed: Blair's secret stalker squad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=457934&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

The perpertrators drive you into the hands and attention of the mental health
teams knowing that they will screw you up and believe you are nuts.Also this will discredit you and also give you fear of talking about it.

it most cost them thousands of pounds a week just to keep us on here, Just think of the wage bill.
But think how much compensation we would receive
and how much damage it would do to the government if this came out.

chicken

27-07-2007, 10:02 AM

Deca - morning! It is 7.18am

Thank - you very much for doing that research for the bone conduction earpiece or phones. I see that you must have updated it - later on in the evening.

Your second posting from this - I have been south and had the same. The signal follows me everywhere. I live in a small village where the mobile phone signal is weak - there is only one mobile phone network that works there and that is Orange. The walls of the house are very thick and it means you have to stand by a window to get a signal - its a bit of an art to get a signal sometimes. Anyway people live with it - because they have no choice. They did put a booster on the transmitter and this did help.

I still think I have an implant - you don't put someone out to talk about the weather? I was sent an e-mail for money after. It was accurate pretty much. One does not get a phone call - explaining what will happen to you in the future. Remember I have a witness.

With having visited a mental unit - with no diagnosis to me anyway - just the fact I visited - now gives me a problem - especially if I started to expand on what has happened to me.

This I am afraid creates this problem there after either way you look at it.

Operations against the target is an extremely organized and professional operation. Thus creating situations for the target to react to.

It is extremely important to remember that there are no provisions or guidelines in the DSM-IV for diagnosing a person as being a victim of high technology. The British system does not recognize the possibility that high technology may be used to create or mimic symptoms of mental illness in a person. Therefore a psychiatrist does not have to consider the possibility of technology when diagnosing mental illness. The British Mental Health System is a dictatorship. Psychiatry does not work the way an average person living in a democracy might expect. Drug first then ask later. I have experienced that.

http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=402 - mental illness and crime

http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=401 - reasons for attacks

What worries me is that my stories will be seen as fiction - yes they happened and I believe I have more to come. You don't go to all this expense to do what is done to me without an end point. So as far as I have come - will the next lot of happenings be explainable, I don't know

The perpertrators drive you into the hands and attention of the mental health teams knowing that they will screw you up and believe you are nuts.Also this will discredit you and also give you fear of talking about it.

yes - but they know about this - my two meets, here in the midlands and there were very eventful. Eventful - because they know I know - so this is why they are treating me so harshly - you don't say to someone "change your story" Also they want me to be aware of what is happening.

Don't forget - these people supposedly work for the government.

I was given this link - to this site - have you seen it?

Forget it is America - it applies to me.

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/mind_control/ultrasonicsame172763.html. Tell me what you think?

I know I am not nuts - remember if we can hold a conversation which we did and it was intelligent, thoughtful etc. It sounded like two normal people. No sign of Schizophrenia - unmanagable thinking was not in evidence. Have you a label?

Yes - costs - this is why people do not make the link between me, you and the technology. Yes it must cost a lot - to do this. Stalkers and the Harassment. When I was in the mental unit - I had this vision that there was this room where they ran an operations room. With all these TI's being controlled like puppets on a string. Some stalkers will do this as a favour. Read some of the links I have attached

I cannot not have made the links I have, without my experience and it having happened.

Its a military/government/secret servis/police system not some a cult group or a mental health org unless its something like this
Revealed: Blair's secret stalker squad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...id=1770&ct= 5

I have read this - ummmm!!

Chicken

chicken

27-07-2007, 10:11 AM

Deca - this is useful to me

http://changingminds.org/principles/evidence.htm

Principle
I cannot deny what I see with my own eyes.
How it works
In our interactions with others, we often disagree and know that they will try to persuade us. If you tell me something, I can easily deny it, effectively saying that you are either mistaken or a liar.
Evidence, however, comes from outside the other person, which means we cannot attribute it to their person, and must judge it independently.
Evidence is particularly powerful for disconfirmation and destroying beliefs. If I find out about my partner cheating on me, all faith and trust are instantly destroyed. Such a change can cause a significant emotional response.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/explanations.htm

I found this useful to look at. You might - helping you expand on your arguement

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 02:01 PM

I think ultrasound travels to slow maybe in the early days they would use it
also the distance would not be great and would not penetrate buildings

but as microwaves are part of the electromagnetic spectrum (so is light) they travel at the speed of light and can penetrate buildings and travel long distances
http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/RADARFLASH.html
http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/FLASH.html

look

microwave hearing...you don`t need an implant
celldar to track....you dont`t need an implant
similar radar can track a cricket ball travel more than 3 times the speed of sound
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/autoGen_1071515558.html
Silent Guardian...the us military heat ray...penetrates your skin and signals your nerve endings.
I think they use a some kind of accurate meg machine
or advance sensors with filters to lock on to unique signals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoencephalography

I think a implant wound have to transmit data, so could be detected
and a body scan/x ray would show them up. Far to risky

Once you start taken these separate microwave technology's and emerge them together you sort of get the picture.

most would need a microwave source with variable wavelengths/frequency
some advanced arrays to receive...some fancy computers/fillters to do data processing and operate from
we have a intergrated mobile phone mast network,satilite system anyway
j

chicken

27-07-2007, 02:59 PM

Deca - I think this person was just using the term loosely to explain the people and technology rather than the technology in detail.

I think a implant wound have to transmit data, so could be detected and a body scan/x ray would show them up. Far too risky

Once you start taken these separate microwave technology's and emerge them together you sort of get the picture.

Ok - read all that - but can the civilian population with loads of money buy this stuff? Especially if portable - can't cost too much eh?

Can microwave hearing give you voice to skull?

I had my teeth caps extracted two at front - and - the persons who at the end of this are poking my teeth - well gums and nerves. I have read that the intereference with the human with this technology is pretty accurate when hitting a particular spot. What di you think?

I have a root filling and the dentist covered over the hole. Now the first filling on tooth 1 was pink and fresh looking and it is supposed to have been in my mouth for 31 years it was too fresh. The dentist then covered this with white stuff. I had a year with a hole in the back when I was a kid - that filling would not look pink so it would have come into contact with the air and food. The other thing is - is that the back had no evidence of a hole in it - so no repair. I checked this before I went to the dentist. I had an infection when I was nine - they drilled a hole to release the infection.

My mother confirmed this when I went to see her. No hole. I knocked of the enamel to see behind it - using the small drill for hobby people

Yeah - but you have to have a pretty damn good reason to have an x-ray. i.e be ill - All x rays are dangerous to the human - take that as general. A whole body scan can knock about five years off your life.

No unit in uk - will scan whole body and head and arms/legs you have to have a doctors referral - so it could be an implant on that basis, because you have to get past them first - ethics? They will do the body

I've had a no - for my doctor - try someone else then.

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 03:33 PM

microwave hearing, voice to skull (v2k) and fray effect are the same thing.
Developed from people who heard strange clicking sounds when walking infront of radar after wwII.

Theres lots of ways to transmit sound into your brain. bone conduction, through skin.
http://www.neurophone.com/home.htm
http://www.hasbro.com/toothtunes/
theres these now as well
http://www.holosonics.com/
they can also transmit data through your body
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061128-8302.html

just came across this
Physicists challenge notion of electric nerve impulses; say sound more likely
http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/physicists-challenge-notion-of-electric-nerve-impulses-say-sound-more-likely-12738.html

deca

27-07-2007, 04:12 PM

As for company's(none military) and wealth groups and individuals get there hands on this type of a equipment then they could get some crude devices to beam stuff into you to make you feel ill probably voices as well but I would think
they would have to be close by to set this up ie. next room or across the road.
Also I think they could not track you in busy areas (shopping centres,discos ) and do it to you while traveling (speeding cars,trains).Also there would have to be some kind of large incentives for this as it would be risky and expensive.
You probably get some one to harass you a lot better i.e pay some thug to pour
paint stripper on your car,play load music next door.
Also I doubt that they could get the bio feed back.This kind of stuff is highly classified.
They have implants RFID chips and trying to get us to use them,
They have brain implants and brain computer interfaces
This is the next level interfacing with our bodies and mind without any wires or chip on the victims side.

saying that you do get these things
http://www.nextnature.net/research/?p=341
but theres so many people out there who would volunteer to have one of these anyway.

They have tried its in your teeth bullshit on me loads of times,Think some TI`s have pulled out all there teeth only to find they have been played.

chicken

27-07-2007, 04:13 PM

thanks

They can kill you with this can they not? Is this how you understand it?

I have an industrial unit across the way about 15 feet from house

There is an incentive - money

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 04:22 PM

I am going to say yes,

Every time I doubt they can kill me I start to get shocks to my hart and other
sensations of bones sapping and breaking, neck snapping.

I have pushed them on this and have had a phone in one hand waiting to phone
999 as I wait to get a lethal or serious hart attack. but I have been lucky so far
and don`t what to get in that position...as they will have to really do it one time.

If they intended to kill you, then you would be dead I think
Theres people been on similar systems for over 30years

Most of the time its to do with trying to control you.

chicken

27-07-2007, 04:33 PM

This is what I feared. Now I have fear!

Actually I am crying - because I knew this. I have had pokings in my heart too. I think it is a matter of time. The reason I say this is that you don't go to all this trouble for nothing. I have been followed around all over. I am subjected to this 24/7. They I guess will want me to give in. I was told remove it or lose it. This is my life.

This is absolutely true. The people doing this want something. There will be a lull and they will time it with something to make it look natural.

I have syntheticly tried to take my life twice. Look I am generally a happy person - no worries until I went to see this woman - then all this stuff started. I was jabbed in the heart and throat - I have been told I will leave with nothing. What does this mean. It does not take much to work this out does it?

chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 04:41 PM

I see you a trying to build some kind of physical link/connection to the system and perpetrators which is the logical step and might solve the problem why you are going through this,and find away of proving this.

But I think this kind of system is design so there is no link/connection or proof

Just think about whats going to happen in the next few years with all the added security ie cameras,car tracking, bio metrics (finger prints,eye scans)
How are the security serves going to do there dirty tricks?
if they can hook up a get joe blogs to do it remotely and then drive him mad...(a lone nut) who can prove shit.

also think what the police can do being able to read peoples minds,gain passwords and secrets

Also they may stop people before they commit a crime (pre crime)

chicken

27-07-2007, 04:50 PM

I was told that I can do this myself. I was told that it was going to be very horrible and negative, I was told that I had to remove it or loose it, I was told it was a cult group, I was told that I had to get rid of the husband etc.

Deca - I have spoken to them - via the phone and - in person. I cannot make a link they told me ok. I don't need tp prove it. I am telling you - the truth.

I always tell the truth - in reality - not a skew one.

I get the rest of what you say

chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 04:53 PM

chicken They are hitting you hard,its shit I have been there.
You just got to raise above this, don`t give in its what the preps want.
You have a life, And have a right to it.

Please maybe stop posting for a while and it might ease them of you.

And remember I know this sounds stupid while they are doing this to you, it stops somebody else being hooked up,Do you what somebody else to go what you are going through a kid or an teenager or somebody else who might not be as strong or wise as you.

This is why we must trying to raise awareness of this kind of technology.

Hopefully some none TI`s will read your posts and other TI`s and realize what a threat this is to humanity.

It may not be noticeable but people are waken up to this kind of thing.

chicken

27-07-2007, 05:03 PM

I am at the moment physically fine. Feet being attacked - emotionally done in for half an hour. I am allowed to do this occaisonally:(. As I am only human - how can you raise above it when the people have the to power to all this to you.

Psychological mind games with real intent. My mind is read - I get confirmations of what I think - I am not being badly attacked. There will come a time when they will go for me - and I think it will be with real people and this electronic stuff as well.

No I would not want others to go through this - this is why I post so much to raise peoples awareness.

Hopefully some none TI`s will read your posts and other TI`s and realize what a threat this is to humanity

god - I hope so

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 05:15 PM

I have to take a third person view of this,if I sink it to the harsh reality of this
I get to emotionally screwed up and in a depressed state.

you are doing better than I did. Took me nearly two years to go near the internet and search mind control, was so full of fear I was even scared to do a google search on mind control and electronic harassment.

The more you post and connect to other TI`s the harder it is for them:)

chicken

27-07-2007, 05:23 PM

I hope that people are reading this and really taking it in - not two cranks getting emotional about it all.

What did you think when the reality hit you? It took me from february to end of June to pluck up courage - to search the net. I had to see me mum to tell her first - she is lovely. I could not lay all this on her doorstep. She naturally has so many concerns for me - I can speak to her about this in detail. She is beginning to think - like almost she is attacked too. We have dialoque which is great.

you are doing better than I did. Took me nearly two years to go near the internet and search mind control, was so full of fear I was even scared to do a google search on mind control and electronic harassment.

oh - I don't think so - I was also told to research the net - so I did. I don't do everything I am told. I have my own brain too - to be honest was not sure what I was searching for.

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 05:53 PM

I was mind fucked all over the place, believe all kinds of stuff, my own asubtions
were the worst(the perpetrators played into them voices and sound effects to egg me on) I was in a mess when I heard the microwave voices I used to shout out aloud back to them run around trying to escape . Then they taught me to think talk back by pushing my tongue to the roof of my mouth and speak but not engauge my tongue or mouth but think talk. I was in a tricky situation getting interviewed by police at this time.Trying to just mentally block and protect myself.
After that I started seeing holes in there theories of why I was getting this done to me.....they all ended up as my fault and I should move or kill myself.
I had many a emotional night about it all, Think I have come numb now to a lot of this.After I started searching on the internet I found loads of stuff witch I felt fitted what was happening to me, but sometimes you can see where some TI`s have had slightly different ideas on who the perpertrators are and why they are a targets.Think alot of this is done by the perpertrators
to discredit TI`s and remove any sort of government involvement.
The reality is I just got to try and block as much as I can out, and keep my life together try to hold on to whats important to me.Also same time to research this and some how help to bring this out in to the open.So this abuse stops what else can I do.

chicken

27-07-2007, 06:07 PM

At first I did not realise that I could have my mind read? So I researched that - I have told me mother that all this exists - why me again - well could go into that. I am being made aware so that I will respond to their demands I suppose.

Sounds shit what happened to you - I sat on the wall - and sat talking to my feet. It felt normal but odd - I was getting responses and I just went with it.

The reality is I just got to try and block as much as I can out, and keep my life together try to hold on to whats important to me. Also same time to research this and some how help to bring this out in to the open.So this abuse stops what else can I do.

well not alot is there. I still believe what I believe - but there will be an ambiguous swing on it somewhere. We are only human.

I think my perps are now going to wait - then go for it - take one day at a time. I will probably end up in the local mental health unit again or ?

What they got planned? I bet they got all the roads covered. Further discreditation

chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 06:49 PM

Yeah don`t start think that they have anything planned for you.I have thought about this and they have made up if I go along with them and join them it gets easier. but then again I have to leave my home and loves ones,and wait for further instructions. I guess they will have my believe I am some sort of special agent, but they will just lead me into trouble I am sure.(just another ploy to get me to leave my home and support)

Its just another mind manipulation, tricking me into doing something and believing something else ,but in fact they are trying to get me in to a situation witch will degrade my life and play into there hands.

As I think but its only my opinion of what I have been through is its to do with there end testing there system,finding techniques,Then keeping it quite and using us as guinea pigs.

chicken

27-07-2007, 07:01 PM

I think they have got something planned for me - I am always waiting for it. I can't leave my support - this is my husband and my family of course.

But there is only so much you and others can take is there not? My husband has been fantastic and deserves a medal.

Deca - you don't have the gang stalking as well though

Yeah - playing into their hands.

Cicken

deca

27-07-2007, 07:08 PM

When I beleve it was local people they had me thinking assorts, It was the emergency serves(ambulances,doctors) ,then it was the police system,then the firemen, then the military...they made out I was some kind of freak and I was putting myself on there communication system , And they were tying to get me off ....but I had to leave here....then when I questioned them they said I was costing lifes and they had gaven me a enough time.....The firemen were coming
to do me in and everybody else was..

this was all done through microwave hearing,no normal communication took place.

chicken

27-07-2007, 08:01 PM

sounds like you are being gang stalked. But there is a difference. You either are and you see it and believe it - because it really happens and you become paranoid as a result.

or

you are just paranoid to start with and you think it is them. You cannot tell the difference.

two ways to look at it

I am the first way to look at it

Chicken

deca

27-07-2007, 09:34 PM

No I don`t think I have been stalked,

The perpertrators used situations and alter my mental state,built up a believe ether there own or on the back off one of my own assumptions, used voices(morphing) and sound effects to make me believe that other people were involved.

I remember one night that every car that passed was making a judgment on my fate sort of jury. I would here a comment as if it was the driver as it passed the window.

Another time when I was walking in a park there was a white transit van parked
and I was lead to believe that there was a hit team in it.I still walked passed it and nothing happened it was them putting these fears into me or highting my own fears.This was very real to me at the time. I really thought I was walking to my death at the time.

The audio effects are really amazing they can make me think that the voices
sounds are coming from anywhere,
Also they can have multi able sounds even mimics my own internal voice.
The system they have on me is very advanced.

There aslo all the other things that they can do, pushing thoughts,blocking thoughts, mess with your short term memory,altering my mood/emotions at a flick,sublimanals , also can mess with my thought creations, they seem to know what I am going to think of before I do.

Then they can mess with my body give me all kinds of sensations and feelings

This is the bit I am not sure about is image projection into me, weather its them using words that I associate with images, our they can push images even moving ones into my mind.

They can also do smells ether block or project them,
and block/turn down my natural hearing this makes there microwave hearing more intense

With this all going on, My perception of what is realy going on outside my body can be fooled easily.
I have said before I often left my house a felt close and that every thing is timed around me i.e people,planes,cars,birds,wind this is very nerve recking.
sometimes they can do this with TV making out every thing is to do with me or some how related. But I am pretty sure its them messing with my brain that leads me at these times to believe and assume these things.

After all your brain is only as good as the data in receives, and how good it is
at processing it . and when you are getting bad data and brain hacked the you can`t make good choices or assumptions.

deca

27-07-2007, 11:11 PM

Think of this way

If you watch a horror scene with the proper sound effects it builds up your fear
adding to the experience, watch the same scene without sound or a different sound track and its not as effective.

I think you could also make a none horror scene scary by adding spooky sound effects to it.
also add some mood and body stimuli to this as well to height your fear and anxiety and that spooked feeling.

You may think that this is far fetched but when you realize that microwave hearing was discovered over 60 years ago and the advancement in technology since then.

Aslo alot of what doctors are exploring with TMS and other electric EMF`s and brain interfaces and scanners and mind and body techniques was probably research under mkultra and simalire projects 30 to 40 years ago.
and only now reaching the press as some new break throu probably done by some maverick group going agaist the norm.

deca

28-07-2007, 12:42 AM

Please believe that I do believe chicken that you are getting electronic harassed and remote mind manulipation the amount of actual physical "gang stalking" that you are experiencing I find hard to believe but thats only through my own experience. I can understand that your mind is getting manipulated so you believe that you a receiving far greater That I can understand and have had same and similar experiences (this does not mean you have a mental illness or making this up even so people and doctors would make you believe this,it means your brain is being remotely manipulated)

I have stood in a park in Manchester at night believing that I had some kind of special mobile phone inside my head and I was to stupid to operate it and I was keeping half of Manchester up and they were out to find me a put me out my misery.(this was before I had done any research I was totally blind to it all )

I don`t like talking about this as it sounds like some kind of mental illness, but when the perpertrators work you into a state and you have all the audio to back it up.

As you can read the perpetrators have tried all types of mental games on me.
Now they don`t brother so much,Just try and piss me off and make my life hard now.

deca

28-07-2007, 12:56 AM

deca

28-07-2007, 01:28 AM

while I am thinking about this and all the mad theories that I believed over the last 3 years about what was happning to me. The perpertrators always wanted
me to stick to one theory.It did not matter which one as it always ended up as my fault and I had to leave my home and family,And I would have to do what they say or kill myself.

I still live in my home,I have not left my family, still have a job.

so sod them.

It takes a lot of effort on there part now to rattle me. last time 3 weeks of intense harrassment.

eternal_spirit

28-07-2007, 02:26 AM

I hope that you none TI`s out there have read this and took note,
You might think we are crazy,or mentally ill or just disbelieve what we say or laugh at us. But a least you have read some of this.
Thats a lot more than I had done,I did not know sod all about remote mind control and electronic harassment.
So if you are unlucky to have a similar experience a least you might avoid being
manipulated into doing something you later regret.
..........................

You and chicken have a good dialogue going on, both of you are not crazy, it's interesting reading, your just telling what you've experienced and theres no way I think you're making it up.