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bicycle
12-04-2009, 01:36 PM
Babies could be routinely vaccinated against hepatitis B under controversial plans being discussed by Government experts.

Cases of the disease, a blood infection which is often transmitted sexually, are said to be spiralling in Britain.:rolleyes:

An influential committee on vaccination is considering adding it to a combination jab given to babies at eight weeks.


Protection: Children have 32 vaccines by the age of four:eek:

This would create a six-in-one vaccine which would also immunise against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio and Hib disease – a form of pneumonia.

But campaigners are concerned about the ‘over-vaccination’ of children and fear any complications caused by adding hepatitis B to the jab would be difficult to spot.

By the age of four, a child will have received 32 vaccines, some in multishot jabs including the MMR against measles, mumps and rubella.

The driving force behind the change is concern that infected immigrants are contributing to a rising tide of hepatitis B.

The virus is commonly spread by unprotected sex and needle sharing among drug addicts, and is 100 times more infectious than HIV. The disease can lead to liver cirrhosis and liver cancer.

Because it can be spread by only a tiny amount of blood through cuts and grazes, it is thought children in playgroups could be particularly vulnerable to catching it.

But GP Dr Richard Halvorsen, director of the Babyjabs single vaccines clinic, said he was opposed to the vaccination move.

He said: ‘The children at most risk are born to mothers carrying the virus and they are already given immunisation at birth.’

He said a 2004 study found adults immunised against hepatitis B were three times more likely to develop multiple sclerosis in the three years after vaccination.

The campaign group JABS, said the hepatitis B vaccine had also been linked to chronic fatigue syndrome.

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which from this month has greater powers to decide UK vaccine policy, is due to discuss the plans at its next meeting in June.

According to one member of the committee, there is ‘huge pressure’ to introduce a universal vaccination against the infection.

The British Medical Association and the charity Hepatitis Foundation UK have previously called for all babies to be immunised against hepatitis B.

The move would also bring the UK in line with World Health Organisation policy.

Stella Pendleton, from Hepatitis Foundation UK, said: ‘The trouble is hepatitis B is known as a silent killer because there are often no symptoms until real damage has been done. I understand parents’ concerns, but a child vaccinated at a young age will always be protected.’

Andrew Thomson, of the BMA’s Board of Science, said infection rates were spiralling and that treating the infection was costing the NHS millions.

High risk areas for the disease include South Asia, Africa and parts of Eastern Europe. Many migrants from these areas settle in Britain.

The condition can kill five per cent of those who contract it.

The Hepatitis Foundation UK puts the numbers carrying the virus in the UK at 326,000 – double the official estimated figure seven years ago. Data from the Health Protection Agency show there are 700 cases diagnosed each year, 30 of them in children.

A Health Department spokesman said last night: ‘The safety of children is always paramount whenever decisions are taken regarding what vaccines are included as part of the child vaccination programme.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1169330/New-vaccination-fears-plan-hepatitis-jabs-weeks-old.html

gilly
12-04-2009, 01:48 PM
They can stuff it up their own orifices. Enough is enough.

It's time we really got together & started some town centre leafleting.

bicycle
12-04-2009, 01:58 PM
They can stuff it up their own orifices. Enough is enough.

It's time we really got together & started some town centre leafleting.

Good Idea, let us know when the leaflets are ready so I can print of and photocopy. Cheers.

drhemp
12-04-2009, 02:01 PM
It's quite simple. What you do is tell them "no thanks".

gilly
12-04-2009, 02:04 PM
It's quite simple. What you do is tell them "no thanks".

But there are going to be so many people who'll just go along with this because they have no idea of the danger. That's what's worrying me.

bicycle
12-04-2009, 02:05 PM
It's quite simple. What you do is tell them "no thanks".

Understood. But the majority in this country think its a good solution to a problem. Hence the leaflet idea aint a bad one imo.

drhemp
12-04-2009, 02:08 PM
But there are going to be so many people who'll just go along with this because they have no idea of the danger. That's what's worrying me.

Well that's why forums like this exist, to educate people.

Yes it is a worry, but at least we can give people the information these things are unnecessary and hinder rather than help a child's immune system.

A lot of parents do not vaccinate their kids, including myself, and this is because the truth about vaccinations is out there, I have read about it online, I have made an informed choice, despite the government full colour propaganda they send me every year or so.

kweli
12-04-2009, 02:26 PM
But there are going to be so many people who'll just go along with this because they have no idea of the danger. That's what's worrying me.

Exactly! As a grandmother of eight, i find it absolutely devastating standing by and watching my grandchildren get vaccinated. My daughter in law's trust in their health workers (unfortunately) and there's not a damn thing i can do! I feel even more helpless with the recent news that my 2yr old grandson has been diagnosed with severe autism. :(

cleopatraxxx
12-04-2009, 03:08 PM
another reason to leave this country

kiwimaj
12-04-2009, 03:16 PM
Exactly! As a grandmother of eight, i find it absolutely devastating standing by and watching my grandchildren get vaccinated. My daughter in law's trust in their health workers (unfortunately) and there's not a damn thing i can do! I feel even more helpless with the recent news that my 2yr old grandson has been diagnosed with severe autism. :(

'they' know it creates autism and I feel that is the reason why it is being pushed..they are hoping it disables as much kids as possible...extremely disgusting, considering the medical profession are meant to heal, nor harm..(how brainwashed is THAT statement...:rolleyes:...)

The only way to heal, is to educate yourself on how you can heal...yourself. The human body has amazing potential to heal itself, given the right environment for it to do so. Humanity has been conned into believing the medical profession know all the answers and we can entrust them with our health..well that has been one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the esbablishment for CENTURIES..more and more are waking up to this lie for what it is...LIES..

:mad:

kweli
12-04-2009, 03:21 PM
'they' know it creates autism and I feel that is the reason why it is being pushed..they are hoping it disables as much kids as possible...extremely disgusting, considering the medical profession are meant to heal, nor harm..(how brainwashed is THAT statement...:rolleyes:...)

The only way to heal, is to educate yourself on how you can heal...yourself. The human body has amazing potential to heal itself, given the right environment for it to do so. Humanity has been conned into believing the medical profession know all the answers and we can entrust them with our health..well that has been one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the esbablishment for CENTURIES..more and more are waking up to this lie for what it is...LIES..

:mad:

Thanks for that kiwimaj, couldn't agree more. It also gives them access to interfere in the lives of affected families. It's truly sickening!

steevo
12-04-2009, 03:26 PM
Exactly! As a grandmother of eight, i find it absolutely devastating standing by and watching my grandchildren get vaccinated. My daughter in law's trust in their health workers (unfortunately) and there's not a damn thing i can do! I feel even more helpless with the recent news that my 2yr old grandson has been diagnosed with severe autism. :(

Sorry to hear that Kweli :(

This story is from 2003 but for some strange reason a link to it comes up on the "MOST POPULAR STORIES NOW" section in the news from a few days ago (eh ? :confused:) on the BBC website. The PTB are trying to tell us that autism is possibily a very good thing :mad:

Einstein and Newton 'had autism' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2988647.stm)

marpat
12-04-2009, 03:30 PM
'they' know it creates autism and I feel that is the reason why it is being pushed..they are hoping it disables as much kids as possible...extremely disgusting, considering the medical profession are meant to heal, nor harm..(how brainwashed is THAT statement...:rolleyes:...)

The only way to heal, is to educate yourself on how you can heal...yourself. The human body has amazing potential to heal itself, given the right environment for it to do so. Humanity has been conned into believing the medical profession know all the answers and we can entrust them with our health..well that has been one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the esbablishment for CENTURIES..more and more are waking up to this lie for what it is...LIES..

:mad:

Why would they want to disable kids? that would only make a bigger problem for themselves as the medical profession would have to cater for all these disabled people. Not only that but they are of less use as workers so why would the NWO want to disable people when they would be of less use to them and a greater burden? I would think the ideal for any power hungry leaders would be to have a physically fit race that was conditioned into the cause, much like what the nazis were doing.

wakeupworld
12-04-2009, 03:34 PM
Why would they want to disable kids? that would only make a bigger problem for themselves as the medical profession would have to cater for all these disabled people. Not only that but they are of less use as workers so why would the NWO want to disable people when they would be of less use to them and a greater burden? I would think the ideal for any power hungry leaders would be to have a physically fit race that was conditioned into the cause, much like what the nazis were doing.

Because a healthy patient is a customer lost.

pduffy4
12-04-2009, 03:42 PM
Exactly! As a grandmother of eight, i find it absolutely devastating standing by and watching my grandchildren get vaccinated. My daughter in law's trust in their health workers (unfortunately) and there's not a damn thing i can do! I feel even more helpless with the recent news that my 2yr old grandson has been diagnosed with severe autism. :(

There is a video link on this page LINK on the forum to a video about vaccine damage. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=907029#post907029) Perhaps you could get your family to watch it.

Also have a look at the quotes further down my post above and let them read it. There is a link to more qutes there too.

Also this site (http://www.momsagainstmercury.org/) moms against mercury

pduffy4
12-04-2009, 03:47 PM
Why would they want to disable kids? that would only make a bigger problem for themselves as the medical profession would have to cater for all these disabled people. Not only that but they are of less use as workers so why would the NWO want to disable people when they would be of less use to them and a greater burden? I would think the ideal for any power hungry leaders would be to have a physically fit race that was conditioned into the cause, much like what the nazis were doing.

Marpat, they want to kill billions of people. Causing autism prevents those children from leading full lives which includes preventing them from having children of their own.

If you have the time why not look at this LINK (http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html) and scroll down and read the quotes from Doctors.

kweli
12-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the advice & info guys - appreciated.

Marpat's on a different page to most of us on this forum (on most issues) but that's cool, i can accept that, i just won't be wasting any energy entering into discussion with him - we live & learn

pduffy4
12-04-2009, 04:09 PM
They can stuff it up their own orifices. Enough is enough.

It's time we really got together & started some town centre leafleting.

The pics on this page with quotes would be great for a leaflet http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html Scroll down to see them. There is a picture of the back of a car with a warning about the dangers of vaccines. Putting signs in car rear windows would be great also. I don't have a car now sadly:(

I could see how much it would cost in Glasgow. I don't have a job so don't have much money to spare but I will get leaflets printed if I can. It is cheaper to get professional leaflets done in bulk than doing it your self.

The problem is that the Police are now trained (like monkeys) to seize leaflets and banners. I saw a video on you tube showing just such behavious oin England. I don't know if I can find the clip but will try.

cleopatraxxx
12-04-2009, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the advice & info guys - appreciated.

Marpat's on a different page to most of us on this forum (on most issues) but that's cool, i can accept that, i just won't be wasting any energy entering into discussion with him - we live & learn

yes, i took the same approach Kweli

kweli
12-04-2009, 05:53 PM
Sorry to hear that Kweli :(

This story is from 2003 but for some strange reason a link to it comes up on the "MOST POPULAR STORIES NOW" section in the news from a few days ago (eh ? :confused:) on the BBC website. The PTB are trying to tell us that autism is possibily a very good thing :mad:

Einstein and Newton 'had autism' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2988647.stm)

Cheers Steevo.

Interesting article that. Wonder how much they paid Borats bro - Professor Simon Baron-Cohen to come up with that load of bollo*ks? I've just been reading about him on the excellent link that pduffy provided: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/one_child_in_60.html

"In the 1980s, for example, a study found only four in every 10,000 showed signs of childhood autism. (if we are to believe new studies the figures are now thought to be one in every sixty)

The Cambridge study, led by Professor Simon Baron-Cohen, states clearly that the apparently higher rate found recently is down to better detection and diagnosis.

So where's all the adults with Autism if this explosive rise is simply down to better detection/diagnosis? Makes no sense whatsoever!

gilly
12-04-2009, 06:18 PM
The pics on this page with quotes would be great for a leaflet http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html Scroll down to see them. There is a picture of the back of a car with a warning about the dangers of vaccines. Putting signs in car rear windows would be great also. I don't have a car now sadly:(

I could see how much it would cost in Glasgow. I don't have a job so don't have much money to spare but I will get leaflets printed if I can. It is cheaper to get professional leaflets done in bulk than doing it your self.

The problem is that the Police are now trained (like monkeys) to seize leaflets and banners. I saw a video on you tube showing just such behavious oin England. I don't know if I can find the clip but will try.


This is good - will it breach copyright though?

Cleopatraxxx is a graphic designer - sadly, I'm not able to look at putting a leaflet together till Tuesday, but if any others have ideas for an effective leaflet layout, I'll be very grateful for contributions of ideas.

I'm revved up enough now to be out stopping people in Preston Centre, and educating anyone who'll listen.

Maybe outside Dr's surgeries? Would I be more likely to get arrested there do you think?

If I get arrested, I'll see if my local paper (who've proved useless previously) might be interested in doing an article.