hep b vacination

[glacidtek]

Just wondering if anyone has any info re:hepB vacination?
I was at the GUM for a normal check-up the other day, and the doctor that saw me advised that I should get vacinated..... I asked her what the content of the vacine was, how safe it was, if there was anything neurotoxic in it etc.

she basicly swept my questions to the side in quite a sharp manner - it seemed to me that she didnt want to be challenged on it.....
maybe i'm parranoid, but it seemed she either didnt have the answers (which is scarey considering she wanted me to get the vacine!).... or there is some kindof agenda.

anyone know anything about it?

[14april2000]

Vaccines do not cure disease they create disease. Vaccines are used as a depopulation tool under the guise of false help. An example is the SV40 Cancer Virus in Salk Polio jabs amongst many others. Used to create crippling illnesses, dumbing down of humans etc.

LINK (http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showforum=10)

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By Craig Oxley

[biblegirl]

i can tell you from personal experience that me and a family member have both had bad reactions to the hepatitis b vaccine...I was "required" to get it just before arriving in Mexico and I got quite sick and my arm was swollen and sore at the injection site for at least a month...my family member had severe back pain after receiving the shot, but was assured it was "just coincidence and the vaccine is not known to cause that problem" :rolleyes:

you can find many facts and real life cases on vaclib.org on any vaccine you may have questions about:

The hepatitis B vaccine, Recombivax HB, manufactured by Merck and Co., is a recombinant DNA vaccine. It is produced by cloning the hepatitis virus, and then, adding the cloned virus to a yeast-based culture. This culture, as with all vaccine cultures, contains a variety of foreign proteins originating from other viruses and bacteria.

In 1971, scientists in Geneva discovered that when viral proteins are injected directly into the bloodstream, they combine with human genetic material, causing DNA to mutate.5

Recombivax HB also contains the neurotoxin aluminum sulfate along with thimerosal, a mercury derivative which the U.S. government has mandated for removal from vaccines because of its ability to cause brain damage.6

By late 1998, there were 439 deaths in the United States attributed to the hepatitis B vaccine.7 Between 1991 and 1999, 25,000 adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine were reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).8 Since it has been shown that less than 10 percent of doctors report adverse reactions and many vaccine reactions are now diagnosed as SIDS or Shaken Baby Syndrome,9 there is no accurate accounting of just how many children and adults are suffering an adverse reaction to this vaccine.

By 1999, at least 100 medical reports confirmed at least 45 side effects associated with the hepatitis B vaccine, many related to chronic crippling disabilities and permanent neurological damage. Adverse reactions include: polyneuropathy, Guillain-Barre (paralytic nerve damage), visual disturbances and blindness, vertigo, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), serum sickness, colitis, autism, herpes zoster, myesthenia gravis and rheumatoid arthritis.10

Since 1987, there have been at least 38 reports in international medical literature showing that the hepatitis B vaccine causes chronic autoimmune and neurological disease in both children and adults.

11 Because it is genetically engineered, Recombivax HB can confuse the body's immune system into attacking itself resulting in an auto-immune response such as multiple sclerosis (MS).

12 In 1997, while publicly defending hepatitis B vaccine, the CDC produced an internal memo suggesting a "possible association between the vaccine and multiple sclerosis."
13
In 1998, 15,000 people filed a class action lawsuit against the French government because the officially mandated hepatitis B vaccine caused thousands to develop MS-like symptoms. That year, France ended compulsory hepatitis B vaccinations.
14
In 1998, data linking the vaccine to auto-immune diseases, including lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, was released at the 62nd annual meeting of the American College of Rheumatology.
15 That same year, a study by Dr. John Classen, an immunologist at Classen Immunotherapies, published a paper linking hepatitis B vaccine with the development of insulin dependent diabetes in certain children.

16 Diabetes is considered an auto-immune disease.
Dr. Bonnie Dunbar, a Baylor College of Medicine professor and vaccine researcher for over twenty-five years, has a brother and two colleagues who have suffered disabling injuries from the hepatitis B vaccine. She told a congressional committee in 1999: "I have now been contacted personally by hundreds or more individuals with severe health problems and life long disabilities resulting in major medical costs following the administration of this (hepatitis B) vaccine."

17 Dr. Dunbar confirms that it can take weeks or months for autoimmune disorders to develop following vaccination.

18
After many newborns died or suffered seizures, brain swelling and permanent brain damage following their hepatitis B injections, the dangers of the vaccine were brought to public attention by a documentary on ABC's 20/20.

19 Finally in July, 1999, the CDC reversed its ill-advised mandate on giving the hepatitis B vaccine to newborns.

20. Nevertheless, despite a decade of problems, and virtually no clinical control studies proving safety or efficacy, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices once again recommends in its 2002 immunization schedule that newborns be injected with the hepatitis B vaccine.
In 1999, Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) made the following statements about the hepatitis B vaccine:
"An independent review of the VAERS data; publications by governmental, pro-vaccine, and anti-vaccine groups; and a sample of the medical literature leads to the following conclusions: For most children, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of hepatitis B....VAERS contains 25,000 reports related to hepatitis B vaccine, about one-third of which were serious enough to lead to an emergency room visit, hospitalization, or death."
21

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) has called for an immediate moratorium on mandatory hepatitis B vaccine for all children pending further research on the dangerous side effects. 22

http://vaclib.org/intro/hepbinfo.htm

[jolinemaria]

Just wondering if anyone has any info re:hepB vacination?
I was at the GUM for a normal check-up the other day, and the doctor that saw me advised that I should get vacinated..... I asked her what the content of the vacine was, how safe it was, if there was anything neurotoxic in it etc.

she basicly swept my questions to the side in quite a sharp manner - it seemed to me that she didnt want to be challenged on it.....
maybe i'm parranoid, but it seemed she either didnt have the answers (which is scarey considering she wanted me to get the vacine!).... or there is some kindof agenda.

anyone know anything about it?


In the western countries groups at risk for hepatitus b are intraveneous drugaddicts and prostitutes. No reason to take a jab if you're not in one these categories. And if you are, still much better to boost your immune system and stop your at-risk behaviour then taking the jab.

[glacidtek]

In the western countries groups at risk for hepatitus b are intraveneous drugaddicts and prostitutes. No reason to take a jab if you're not in one these categories. And if you are, still much better to boost your immune system and stop your at-risk behaviour then taking the jab.


I do revel in depravity, but I'm neither a IVdrug addict or sex-worker!

cheers for the info.

[glacidtek]

Recombivax HB also contains the neurotoxin aluminum sulfate along with thimerosal, a mercury derivative which the U.S. government has mandated for removal from vaccines because of its ability to cause brain damage.6


http://vaclib.org/intro/hepbinfo.htm


thanks for your info - I'm realy annoyed with the doctor - two specific questions i asked:
- are any of the contents neurotoxic?
- are any heavy metals in the content?

both specific questions were almost laughed off, and the issue pushed to the side.

who can we trust these days?

[glacidtek]

I'v been thinking about this more and more - I'm realy pissed of that the doctor has done one of two things -

either
- blatently lied to me about the content of the vacine (why?whats the agenda?)

or

- blatently is ignorant of the content of the vacine.


now my question -

what kindof comeback do you have when a medical professional has lied to you/given you false information?
I'm so pissed of about this, and wonder where I stand if I want to persue the GUM for providing false/ignorant information!

cheers.

[lostandconfused]

Hi

Are you sure it was Hep "B" and not Hep "A"

Hep "A" is the usual vaccination these days you are advised to have this for
all travels even in the EU

[glacidtek]

nah, it was definalty for hepB.....

the more I think about it, the doctor must be ignorant of the content, as she wrote down the vaccine's name: I have it in my diary, which is handily not with me at the moment.... i'll post it later on.

[decided]

who can we trust these days?
Not an industry that's out to make you a permanent dependent on them. We have to trust our own instinct and become our own doctors. There is plenty of information on the Internet to make that possible. Most important imo, is to avoid all allopathic medicine since it is toxic and is not designed to heal.



what kindof comeback do you have when a medical professional has lied to you/given you false information?
Ask him specific questions and ask him to give you his source to his answer.

You could start with vaccine ingredients - http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/

[glacidtek]

Hi Decided - thanks for joining the thread......

I realy should beable to avoid the health service, but whats a guy to do.... it is important to get checked out at the GUM once in a while!

Lostandconfused:
it was definatly hepB..... the doctor wrote down the vaccine: Engerix-B HEPATITIS B VACCINE - INJECTION (Engerix-B, Recombivax HB)

[lostandconfused]

Thats really weird, why would she want you to have that?
I cant see any reason for it Hep A yes but not Hep B.
I think she need to explain the reasons you need it.
Let us know how you get on

[glacidtek]

lostandconfused -

yeah, it does seem weird.... its not like i'm IVdrug user, or have l;oads of sexual partners - I'm in a long term relationship.

I realy ought to go back and demand an explanation....... I think i'll wait till my next check up, and go armed with info - the doctor realy caught me off guard, as I wasnt expecting to be pressured into a vaccine for a disease I know little about!

[glacidtek]

just a bit of an update.......

I have just returned from being away with work - on my return i recieved a letter from the GUM to call them URGENTLY......

I had a few tests done 3weeks ago, and was pretty concerned - when I left the GUM they would text me if there was anything routine wrong.... not get in touch if I was all clear.... or by letter if there was something more serious.

So this seemed to suggest there was something seriously wrong.... making me genuinly concerned.

I phoned up, and the nurse checked the security stuff and told me that the results for hepB had been returned showing that I had no natural defense against the virus, and they advised that I needed the vacine - WTF?!

what the hell is going on here - if I was less 'aware', or not on the ball, anyone else getting the information above would almost certainly be lead to believe that they must get the vacine as they are in iminent risk or infection....

this is bullsh@t - fearmongering, misinformation, what the hell is going on here?

I had thought previously of complaining about the doctor (see OP)... then decided just to leave it.... but now after the doctors misinformation, scaremongering letter, and the nurses double-negative smudger of information - fu@k it, I'm going to complain.

sorry if the above seems like a rant - I'm pissed off.

what do you think?

[glacidtek]

bump.

I'm so pissed off at this..... please, any advice or 3rd part perspective appreciated.

[biblegirl]

just a bit of an update.......

I have just returned from being away with work - on my return i recieved a letter from the GUM to call them URGENTLY......

I had a few tests done 3weeks ago, and was pretty concerned - when I left the GUM they would text me if there was anything routine wrong.... not get in touch if I was all clear.... or by letter if there was something more serious.

So this seemed to suggest there was something seriously wrong.... making me genuinly concerned.

I phoned up, and the nurse checked the security stuff and told me that the results for hepB had been returned showing that I had no natural defense against the virus, and they advised that I needed the vacine - WTF?!

what the hell is going on here - if I was less 'aware', or not on the ball, anyone else getting the information above would almost certainly be lead to believe that they must get the vacine as they are in iminent risk or infection....

this is bullsh@t - fearmongering, misinformation, what the hell is going on here?

I had thought previously of complaining about the doctor (see OP)... then decided just to leave it.... but now after the doctors misinformation, scaremongering letter, and the nurses double-negative smudger of information - fu@k it, I'm going to complain.

sorry if the above seems like a rant - I'm pissed off.

what do you think?

geez, a letter for the shot now? urgent?! :rolleyes:

unfortunately dealing with the health care profession means enduring this kind of misinfo all the time...they are under pressure to have 100% fully vaccintated patients

you could advise them to take their vaccine against getting a boot up the rear if they bring up this matter again, he he

hope everything goes alright glacidtek :)

[paolo]

I work for the NHS in an area which for a long while tried to insist staff get Hep B. I just said no against all the threats. At the moment it seems that to try and insist staff get the Hep-B counters Human Rights legislation, as it does, for what it's worth
I stay away from all orthodox treatments, tests and facilities
If you get taken into the mill, you'll get sicker and sicker, and require more and more of their treatments
Handle and take responsibility for your own health. I'd allow them to plaster up a broken limb or provide emergency treatments in life threatening situations, but that's about the limit

[darryleberryjr]

I was at the GUM for a normal check-up the other day, and the doctor that saw me advised that I should get vacinated..... I asked her what the content of the vacine was, how safe it was, if there was anything neurotoxic in it etc.

she basicly swept my questions to the side in quite a sharp manner - it seemed to me that she didnt want to be challenged on it.....
maybe i'm parranoid, but it seemed she either didnt have the answers (which is scarey considering she wanted me to get the vacine!).... or there is some kindof agenda.

just a bit of an update.......

I have just returned from being away with work - on my return i recieved a letter from the GUM to call them URGENTLY......

I had a few tests done 3weeks ago, and was pretty concerned - when I left the GUM they would text me if there was anything routine wrong.... not get in touch if I was all clear.... or by letter if there was something more serious.

So this seemed to suggest there was something seriously wrong.... making me genuinly concerned.

I phoned up, and the nurse checked the security stuff and told me that the results for hepB had been returned showing that I had no natural defense against the virus, and they advised that I needed the vacine - WTF?!

This is some scary stuff man. I wouldn't' get the vaccine. I've ran across instances of doctors experimenting on people, like with the thing in the USA, in Alabama I think, where they infected people with syphilis and just watched it progress.

This really sounds fishy. Perhaps she or he is trying to make money, or meet a quota. Perhaps she's trying to test something, or even give you some disease or something - perhaps give you a disease as a part of some test or observation. I wouldn't put it past he or she at this point.

I just suggest you don't get it, and you may want to get a new doctor - as a matter of fact you may want to get a new doctor's office.

What exactly is the GUM?

Peace.

[glacidtek]

thanks for the advice - I'm definatly giving it a miss.

still unsure whether or not to pursue the misinformation side or not - is it realy worth the hastle?

GUM is genito-urinary-medecine
(spelling?)

[breezinreezin]

It may not be any more sinister than that NHS trust generating income for vaccinating people. I know GP's get paid for giving shots.

Having said that, the constituents of the vaccine are not looking entirely benign. Aluminium Hydroxide and genetically modified yeasts to name but two.

A good site for a breakdown here: http://poisonevercure.150m.com/ingredients.htm

On edit: I noticed that Biblegirl already posted regarding the nasties. Apologies.

[jjuelz]

wow

I got like 2 of these hep B vaccines, some nurses came to my school and gave it to everyone

anyway, no more vaccines for me, anyone know the contents of the MMR rubella vaccine?

[darryleberryjr]

On edit: I noticed that Biblegirl already posted regarding the nasties. Apologies.

I don't mind. Someone may miss the earlier one. Thanks.

[14april2000]

Hi Decided - thanks for joining the thread......

I realy should beable to avoid the health service, but whats a guy to do.... it is important to get checked out at the GUM once in a while!

Lostandconfused:
it was definatly hepB..... the doctor wrote down the vaccine: Engerix-B HEPATITIS B VACCINE - INJECTION (Engerix-B, Recombivax HB)

Just tell them to fxcx off - The Universial Health Care System etc is basicly a cult - the people that works in that system where it`s private or public are cult worshipper. But they don`t know that - there leader is David Rockefeller they don`t know that either. Some weeks ago i when to a lecture where a doctor was speaking about some disease to some sick people. You should have seen and hear how this doctor spell them like it was black magic. total mind contral via fear fear fear etc. That`s how the system keep people on dangerous drug.


David Rockefeller speaks about population control.

David Rockefeller gives a speech about over population. In this video, you will hear and see him discussing how the U.N. should sustain the population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

David Rockefeller Sr. (born June 12, 1915) is an American banker, statesman, globalist, and the current patriarch of the Rockefeller family. He is the youngest and only surviving child of John D. Rockefeller Jr. and the only surviving grandchild of billionaire oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller, founder of Standard Oil. His five deceased siblings are: Abby, John D. III, Nelson, Laurance and Winthrop.

Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM)
Council on Foreign Relations
Bilderberg Group
Trilateral Commission
The National Security Advisor under Carter

[glacidtek]

please excuse the delay in my response.... and thanks to anyone who has contributed here.

I'm just going to forget about all of this..... I cant beleieve that I didnt just sweep it to the side at the outset and 'just say no'.....

what more was I expecting from the health service!

thanks fo all the help/advice/info - I should have known better and nipped it in the bud - theres no point in me spending any more energy getting pissed off with 'the system'.

peace and love,
Mike.

[glacidtek]

back to the top.

[ustane]

[QUOTE=glacidtek;921910]Just wondering if anyone has any info re:hepB vacination?

she basicly swept my questions to the side in quite a sharp manner

Very typical of those in the establishment.

Friend of mine was shocked to be 'diagnosed' when there for some reason with hepatitis B and was told he'd have picked it up from one of his sexual contacts, he was told he had problems in the liver, he was in fear of people having the same happen to them and was talking about the importance of getting vaccincated against hep B, but he felt well the whole time, while that diagnosis went on he didn't have any illness, and believes it to be wrong diagnosis

[glacidtek]

Right - its now time for my quarterly MOT@ the GUM......

I'm going today, armed to the teeth with the exact contents of the Hep-B vaccine....

I'm going to play it cool, let them direct this and see if they discuss this vaccine again - I'm sure they will as the computer will flag me up, after the letter they sent me.

IF they offer me the vaccine again, I'll ask them the contents etc.....

IF i get the same response as before ( theres noting neurotoxic, cannot pass the blood brain barrier etc) - I will be asking for their resoponse in writing.....

THEN...... we will see.

[glacidtek]

oh... BTW - does anyone know what I'm entitled to ask under Freedom Of Information Act?

The hospitals must be getting a kick-back from the vaccine company for each dose administered....

can I ask how much per dose?
how many doses?
etc.

sorry if the questions seem a bit dumb.

ALSO - is it legal if i voice record the conversation with the doctor?

[glacidtek]

anyone?#

my appointment is at half 1.

[glacidtek]

ha ha ha... incompotent twats - according to them, I'v already had the vaccine!!!
WTF.

I'm forgetting all about this now - life is way too short to let this suck anymore energy from my system.