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heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 04:55 AM
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/potp/index.htm
The Phanthom Of The Poles by William Reed (1906)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Admiral_Byrd_Antarctic_Expedition_1933_Issue-3c.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Richard_Evelyn_Byrd.jpg/402px-Richard_Evelyn_Byrd.jpg
Medal of Honor citation
Rank and organization: Commander, United States Navy. Born: 25 October 1888, Winchester, Va. Appointed from: Virginia. Other Navy awards: Navy Cross, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit with gold star, Distinguished Flying Cross.
Citation:
For distinguishing himself conspicuously by courage and intrepidity at the risk of his life, in demonstrating that it is possible for aircraft to travel in continuous flight from a now inhabited portion of the earth over the North Pole and return.
rosie789
25-02-2012, 12:16 PM
It's the Hollow Earth weather for TOMORROW Rosie789 LOL :D
Okay fine... :)
Tomorrow (hypothetically not realistically) an asteroid will hit the earth (it happened a lot a while ago) and the earth will implode.
Brace for being turned into a smaller planet.
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 07:24 PM
Picture of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Admiral Richard E. Byrd in Albany, New York, in 1930.
(Picture from the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library
http://0.tqn.com/d/history1900s/1/0/s/H/fdr22.gif
http://0.tqn.com/d/history1900s/1/0/t/H/fdr21.gif
http://www.south-pole.com/byrd7.jpg
http://www.leisuregalleries.com/byrdphoto.jpg
Admiral Richard E. Byrd was awarded the Medal of Honor for the courage he displayed in making the first flight over the North Pole in 1926.
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 08:42 PM
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/rebyrd.htm
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/artistry-and-artifice-in-the-times-studio/
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/graphics/photos/paulsiple2.jpg
Dr, Siple one of Richard Byrd's best collaborators.
http://www.check-six.com/images/AmericaNX206/Crew-PostFlight.jpg
http://www.check-six.com/images/AmericaNX206/NX206-takeoff.jpg
http://www.nassco.com/pdfs/T-AKE_4_Program.pdf
http://www.thenewearth.org/Interior%20Sun%20image.jpg
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 09:13 PM
http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/igy1/seabees19571.jpg
Admiral Byrd's Crew.
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 10:14 PM
Admiral Byrd's flight in Agharta Ariana 19 february 1947 - YouTube
http://thefederationoflight.ning.com/group/navigatingthissite/forum/topics/inner-earth-admiral-richard-e
http://api.ning.com/files/cF26NCR-GLl4j-OWYjUDbL2joV8g5wlLYC4YxUiaUsqHHIEwHBp1*YRPN2YzIyj1 eAuu2vqACatgzMU7K103t8K30QGSXrEc/crystalclouds.jpg?width=500&height=500&xn_auth=no&type=jpeg&v=201202222207
indolering
25-02-2012, 10:18 PM
Admiral Byrd's flight in Agharta Ariana 19 february 1947 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2zBz2Nj0k0)
Good stuff, heartbeatsalute. Nice pics, etc. Some real history here, and as usual, the best is covered up and secreted for the exclusive use of the satanists. Thanks for your good work....:cool:
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 10:38 PM
Thanks friend!
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g600000/g613299.jpg
warming up inside Little America with his Pipe.
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 10:44 PM
http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/igy1/larawin2.jpg
Little America 1956-7
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 10:47 PM
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/i05000/i05373.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g600000/g613839.jpg
http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/igy1/sppo1961.jpg
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 10:58 PM
Honorable Ernest L. Jahncke, (left),
Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, USN, (right)
In Mr. Jahncke's Office in the Navy Department Building, Washington, D.C., January 1942.
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h56000/h56984.jpg
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:02 PM
President Herbert Clark Hoover
Presents a medal to Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, USN, at the White House.
Present: (left to right)
Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson;
Captain Charles R. Train, USN,
(Behind Rear Admiral Byrd); and
Assistant Secretary of the Navy Ernest L. Jahncke
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h68000/h68842.jpg
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h41000/h41633.jpg
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:08 PM
Photo #: NH 49066
President Herbert Clark Hoover
Greeting with members of the Byrd Expedition on the White House grounds, 20 June 1930.
Presented a medal is Chief Petty Officer Charles Lofgrin, USN,
(Rear Admiral Byrd's Yeoman).
Identified personnel:
(left to right)
Secretary of State, Henry L. Stimson
(left of President Hoover); and
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, USN,
(right of President Hoover)
U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph
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heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:12 PM
Photo #: NH 57393
Honorable Claude Swanson,
Secretary of the Navy, (sitting) and
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, USN,
(standing to the left)
Secretary Swanson presents the Medal of the Second Byrd Antarctic Expedition to Rear Admiral Byrd on 15 October 1937. Looking on from left to right are:
Admiral William D. Leahy, USN,
Chief of Naval Operations;
Mr. William C. Haines, Meteorologist;
Dr. Alton A. Lindsey; and
Rear Admiral Adolphus Andrews,
Chief of the Bureau of Navigation
U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph
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http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h57000/h57393.jpg
book about hollow earth .:cool:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/lightsout4you/journey-center-earth.jpg
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:16 PM
Photo #: NH 105372
Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, USN
Eating in his shack at Little America, Antarctica, circa late October 1934. He was rescued earlier that month from his advance base, where he had been in isolation for a little bit longer than two months. This picture was taken before he had his hair cut.
Collection of Mr. Amory H. Waite.
U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph
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heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:21 PM
book about hollow earth .:cool:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/lightsout4you/journey-center-earth.jpg
Excellent saty! This is Jules Verne's book, one of the first ones to talk about this matter. I suppose everyone was inspired by him. It seems he belonged to a Freemason group that knew quite a bit of this. Richard E. Byrd was also a Freemason, but quite a remarkable guy. I think I will give that book of Vernes a re-read. Thanks saty! :D
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:25 PM
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heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:29 PM
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heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:32 PM
http://www.viewzone.com/antarctic-base.jpg
http://www.viewzone.com/antarcticbase.html
heartbeatsalute
25-02-2012, 11:58 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_19901036
Daughter of First Black man in Antartica
writing his memoirs with Admiral Byrd.
written
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 12:14 AM
We Are All Antarctica - Leilani Henry - 4:35 - YouTube
WE ARE ALL ANTARCTICA - Leilani Henry
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 01:52 AM
http://www.antarctic-circle.org/018e.jpg
richard E. Byrd's family, son and 3 daughters, and cat Igloo.
http://www.antarctic-circle.org/266a.jpg
The OMEGA File
17. ADMIRAL BYRD AND OPERATION HIGH-JUMP ...
http://www.facts-are-facts.com/magazin/3_south_pole_mysterious_antarctica_2.jpg
In 1947, Admiral Richard E. Byrd led 4,000 military troops from the U.S., Britain and Australia in an invasion of Antarctica [Operation Highjump and follow-up], but encountered heavy resistance from Nazi "flying saucers" and had to call off the invasion. A Rear-Admiral who was in that invasion has retired in Texas, and said he was shocked when he read the "Fire From The Sky" material. He knew there were a lot of aircraft and rocket shoot-downs but did not realize the situation was so bad. (Note: Here the writer is referring to accounts given in other writings, suggesting that AS the Soviet Union was falling the Bolsheviks who were in the process of being ousted from Russia took refuge in the CIA and Pentagon, from where they attempted to provoke a nuclear war with Russia which they would ride-out in their massive underground bunkers. In response, the Tzarist Russian's sent a strong message to the Bolshevik 'elite' in the Pentagon and CIA that this would not be allowed -- by shooting down satellites and aircraft in retaliation. The idea of a KGB presence in the CIA might seem to conflict with the 'Nazi' presence there, yet NOT if you consider the fact that the Rockefeller's -- according to Economics expert and advisor Antony Sutton and others -- had financially backed BOTH the Bolsheviks AND the Nazis in their military efforts as two Hegallian or Machievellian 'clubs' to 'beat' the planet into submission to a New World Order.
This might explain the early treaty between Hitler and Stalin, the close alliances that both Karl Marx and Adolph Hitler had with the Jesuits, and the fact that the Bolshevik revolution was actually planned in Bavaria with German Intelligence's plan to send their agent Lenin from Germany to Russia to stir up the revolution. We must remember that National Socialism [Nazism] IS 'Socialism' none-the-less. In this context the polarizing 'left-wing' - 'right-wing' political theory turns out to be FALSE. If this theory is taken to its logical conclusion then an extreme left-wing system would tend to liberalism and anarchy while an extreme right-wing system would tend to conservatism and totalitarianism. You could say that both left and right wing philosophies compliment each other in the sense that Totalitarianism cannot exist without the threat of anarchy to justify it. For instance in order to JUSTIFY a totalitarian takeover of the United States or the World the UN/NWO 'elite' would AND DO support ANARCHY in order to create for instance a national emergency and in so doing justify the implementation of certain executive orders and martial law. The Bolshevik 'Socialists' certainly were NOT anarchists but totalitarians just like the Nazi or National 'Socialists'. In reality TRUE Communism would be control of the country by a UNION of workers, with power equally distributed among all workers. Vladimir Lenin felt that the 'workers' were not worthy nor capable of running the government in a collective sense, and that a small group who were 'trained' in the precepts of 'Communism' should run the government and the Revolution instead. So in essence 'Communism' as it exists in Asia is NOT Communism but dictatorship. If anything, democracy would be closer to TRUE Communism than the FALSE Communism of Asia, with the PEOPLE having control through the electoral process. But of course that has been subverted with the rise of the 'Executive' Alien-Military-Industrial government within the United States, which is controlled by a alien-corporate ELITE rather than being equally control among the common citizens. Now are you getting the picture?
The so-called ELITE gain their power through MISREPRESENTATION and DECEPTION! They intentionally cloud your reality.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile17.htm
THE OMEGA AFILE.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 02:17 AM
http://www.mikaelstrandberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2b-Lindseys-BAEII-rev.-Louise-Lindsey-March-20091.jpg
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 02:22 AM
http://www.mikaelstrandberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/8-Louis-P.-Colombos-US-Antarctic-Expedition-Medal-1939-41-R.L.-Colombo.jpg
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 02:28 AM
http://www.mikaelstrandberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/14-Adm.-Byrds-1933-35-Exp.-Medal-courtesy-of-Sothebys.jpg
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 02:34 AM
http://we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2009/07/biorama-2.php
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454213/pg1
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 02:55 AM
The Nazis sought to prove that the earth was hollow.
In a book called : MAYA: Reality is an Illusion by Miguel Serrano
I find in the last chapter the following , that is said about the Hollow Earth:
"Three years ago, i received an unexpected visit of a world known writer.
It came from Germany to bring an extraordinary document: a letter written by
a German submariner that said to be "inside the earth", because Rudolph Hess and Haushofer were right: THE EARTH IS HOLLOW.
The handwritten letter, in german dated April 20, 1947 ,
meant to say that these "syncronisms" come to support us, because as the alquimist
says: "If you are doing the job right, unknown friends will come to your help..." and "even if you find yourself alone in your room, your thoughts will be heard thousands of leagues of
distance from where you are"...
TRANSLATION:
April 20, 1947
Dear old comrade:
This letter will be a surprise to you. The submarine U-Boot 209 has made it. The Earth is HOLLOW! Dr. Haushofer and Hess were right. The entire crew finds itself well, but we cannot return. We are not prisioners. I am sure that this message will arrive to you; this is the last contact wiith U-209. We will see each other again comrade..
Signature ILLEGIBLE
Letter from Hans Willi to Howard Emmajean, dated may 8, 1990
Dear howard &Emmajean.
The two briefs received of 7 mai and R.C. Thank you so much!!!
The mission of the U-290 was one of the most fanstastic missions
of the Third Reich. It certainly involved the Occultist influence of
Hitler, Himmler, Heydtrich and Dr. Larl Hauschofer....
The mission of the U-290 was to follow ancient charts, and to enter
a gigantic undersea mountain opening. This was believed to lead to the Center of the Earth!! Yes, it was beleived that in the center lay Agharta!!!
The U-290 did not return, and thus the letter from an old friend
who was aboard the 290. This letter states that the U-290's mission
was completed, that the earth IS HOLLOW, and not only that, also inhabited. The boat was commanded by Heinnrich Brodda.
The mission was entitled ASGARD
The man who wrote me the letter while I was staying with my cousins was
JOSEPH MUNDT. Special appointee of the Reich's mysterious AHNENERBE
bureau under Himler and Heydrich. This is and still is the Ancestral
Bureau of the Nordic Race, which came from the north, and believed that
they came from an opening near the North Polar area ,which led to the Center
of the Earth..........Many old nordic legends claim this as well as
several Native American Legends (Amerindians).
Mundt was not in Argentina, the letter was mailed from there ,Stating that
the U-290 accomplished its mission, but none could return, yet they were NOT prisioners. Most strange and I know that this defies the credibility of RATIONAL THOUGHT though,
but I think there are many things we DO NOT KNOW.
Haushofer, very strange pronouncement on the Obelisk, in Runic Symbols,
Beyond this point lies Agharta, and there are more things IN Heaven and In EARTH
THAT MAN HAS DREAMT.........As stated previously, there was a most profound influence in the Third Reich of the Occult or is Occut sometimes TRUTH that is not yet understood,
or perhaps OLD knowledge that man has lost his way in this world after losing it....
The 629 had her encounter with a flying Disc off Afrika in Mai 1943.
Some place that film still exists. I think it is very likely the very
first photos of a Flying Disc, alter seen by allied and Luftwaffe
pilots over Europe.
A most pleasant sojourn to you both my friends in EUROPA(:::)
An Angel in the front and Angel in the back for your protection and guidance while away.
God bless you both.
Faithfully
WILLIE
Edit:
I personally think that these letters could or could not mean something, but it is worth
looking at the information about the Hollow Earth, and the distance dates between each letter 1947 and 1990. It is for us to decide..
David Icke talks about this in his book THE BIGGEST SECRET. pgs. 255-9
These letters are quite interesting. Since National Socialists were concerned about the Hollow Earth, Agharta also. Nazis had connections with the Buddhists in Tibet, Buddhists say they have known always about Agharta. Hitler always took it very seriously it seems.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Bundesarchiv_Bild_135-KA-10-072%2C_Tibetexpedition%2C_Empfang_f%C3%BCr_W%C3%BC rdentr%C3%A4ger.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/LogoNeu.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/history1900s/1/0/P/P/hitler4.jpg
Hitler’s Germany was extremely interested in Antarctica beginning in the 30s. Many historians attribute this to the occultist background of the upper echelons of the Nazi party, some of whom where members of the so-called Thule Society. In studying translations of old Tibetan, Indian and Greek texts, they came to (correctly) believe that our earth is hollow and inhabited within. Ultima Thule is supposed to have been the name of the capital city of the continent Hyperborea, older than Atlantis and Lemuria. According to Thule texts, the Hyperboreans were highly technologically and socially advanced. The continent was located in the Norwegian Sea and sunk over the progression of an ice age. During the catastrophe, however, the Hyperboreans dug large tunnels through the earth’s crust using giant machines and settled under what is today the Himalayas. It is said that they named their new kingdom Agharta or Agharti and its capital city Shamballah. The current Dalai Lama XIV as well as lamas from Mongolia and Tibet claim to have known this subterranean kingdom along with The Lord of the World (Rigden Iyepo) living there. Over the millenia, the subterranean kingdom has supposedly spread below the earth's entire surface with giant centers under the Sahara, the Mato Grosso in Brazil, Yucutan in Mexico, Mount Shasta in Northern California and many others.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 04:26 AM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_13.htm
Britain's secret war in Antarctica
Britain's Secret War in Antarctica
Part 1 of 3
Extracted from Nexus Magazine
Volume 12, Number 5
(August - September 2005)
At the end of World War II, Britain sent a covert mission to investigate anomalous activities near its secret base at Maudheim in eastern Antarctica and to seek out and destroy a subterranean Nazi haven.
Introduction
In 1938, Nazi Germany sent an expedition to Antarctica with a mission to investigate sites for a possible base and to make formal claims in the name of the Third Reich. To prepare them for their mission, they invited the great polar explorer Richard E. Byrd to lecture them on what to expect. The following year, a month after hostilities had commenced in Europe, the Germans returned to Neuschwabenland to finish what had been started, with many suggesting that a base was being constructed.
Nine years later, Richard E. Byrd, who by now had become an Admiral in the United States Navy, was sent to Antarctica with the largest task force ever assembled for a polar mission. In Admiral Byrd’s own words, the mission (code-named Highjump) was "primarily of a military nature".1 Many claim that the task force was sent to eradicate a secret Nazi base in Queen Maud Land, which the Nazis had renamed Neuschwabenland (click image right) and which had never been explored as profoundly as the rest of the Antarctic.
But, and the big but is, the fact that Admiral Byrd spoke of "flying objects that could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds"2 and with well-documented German activity before, during and in the immediate aftermath of World War II, one can’t help but wonder whether there is some truth in the Nazi Antarctica myth. Even so, could Operation Highjump and Byrd’s quotes have overshadowed the truth about British excursions in Antarctica by way of misinformation, bringing attention to his mission and, by doing so, making sure that history only remembered one mysterious Antarctic mission?
When the Antarctica mystery is mentioned, Britain is never given more than a footnote. That fact is surprising in itself, especially as British forces were active in Antarctica throughout the war and quite possibly took the initiative in dealing with the Antarctic Nazi threat a whole 12 months before Operation Highjump was initiated.
Britain’s activities on Antarctica, though less documented and more clandestine, are just as intriguing as the supposed much-vaunted Operation Highjump. Unfortunately for Britain, though victorious in the War, it was bankrupted and humiliated by the two new superpowers.
But Britain was in a position to regain some pride and surreptitiously upset its supposed allies with the final, decisive battle against the surviving Nazis: a battle that would never be recorded in the history books; a battle that would make its claims on the continent more legitimate; but, most importantly, a battle that ended the war that it had been compelled to wage.
Antarctic Postage Stamps: Claim or Commemoration?
On 1 February 1946, a set of postage stamps was released with His Majesty’s royal approval.
The stamps caused international outrage and brought on a diplomatic crisis for a war-weary Great Britain. The offending eight postage stamps commemorated Britain’s claim to the Falkland Islands Dependencies, but one of them also depicted a territorial map of Antarctica that completely overlooked Chile’s and most of Argentina’s claims on the continent. Now why would Britain, when the world economy was in such dire straits, bring about an international crisis over an area of the world that appeared on the surface to be totally devoid of life?
Many historians claim that Britain’s postwar interest arose because, with Britain in dire need of materials, Antarctica was deemed as the solution; the stamps were a way of making Britain’s claim valid. That assertion, however partially true, does not explain why British forces, as part of Operation Taberlan, were on the continent throughout and in the immediate aftermath of the War.
Operation Taberlan was activated as a measure of monitoring German activities on the Antarctic continent. The known British bases were mainly on the Antarctic Peninsula, in places such as Port Lockroy and Hope Bay, and on the islands surrounding the peninsula, such as the secret bases on Deception and Wiencke Islands - though some were set up on the continent. The most secret of all has not, and more than likely never will be, disclosed. The base at Maudheim, near the Mühlig-Hoffmann Mountain Range in Queen Maud Land or, alternatively, Neuschwabenland, was so secret that it was never given a name or even a grid reference on official maps.
Could the stamps have been released to commemorate a successful mission in Queen Maud Land? The facts and rumors, as well as a story dispensed by a wartime SAS officer, may shed some light on the many mysteries of the Antarctic arena - a front that has been kept secret for 60 years - and on a hostile encounter that will never be divulged to the public.
Britain has suppressed so many wartime events in the name of national security that now, even 60 years on, many people are still none the wiser about the secrets of the war - from Rudolph Hess to the peace parties, to the even more sinister happenings including:
Britain’s knowledge of the Nazi extermination camps
the Irish Republican Army’s flirtation with Nazis
the lesser known secrets such as SS concentration camps on British soil on Alderney in the Channel Islands
With just those few listed, a pattern of suppression is emerging - and on some, a total denial is normally forthcoming. Antarctica is no exception.
With the passing of time, all those who served in the Neuschwabenland campaign are no longer with us. The last survivor gave me the following account of the forgotten battle. I hasten to add that the story was told on two separate occasions, 10 years apart, and there was not one discrepancy in either account.
[Editor’s note: We have deleted opening and closing quotation marks in the next section for ease of reading.]
The Neuschwabenland Campaign
When Victory in Europe was announced, my unit was resting in a cave in the former Yugoslavia. I was thankful that the War had finally ended, though with war still being waged in the Pacific and tensions rising in Palestine, we were warned that our war could continue.
Thankfully, I was spared from participating in the war against Japan - but alas, I was posted to Palestine where the influx of Jews, allied with a rise in Zionist terrorism, was causing anguish not only to the inhabitants of Palestine but also to the British forces that were sent to stem the Jewish influx and quell the uprisings. I was warned that my posting in Palestine would continue indefinitely.
I saw many of my fellow soldiers die. Thankfully, I received an order at the beginning of October 1945 to report to my commanding officer, as I had been selected for a mission so secret that none of my senior officers knew why I had been requested to go to Gibraltar. I was not told why I had to report, but I went, hopeful that I would soon be discharged into Civvy Street. How wrong I was: I would be spending another Christmas on a war footing.
Once I arrived on Gibraltar I was secreted away by a Major and informed that I would be sent to the Falkland Islands Dependencies for further briefing and that I would be joined by several other soldiers from other elite British forces. The mystery thickened as we were all flown to the Falklands under complete silence. We were ordered to not even speculate about why we had been selected and where we were going.
Upon reaching the desolate and forbidding Falkland Islands, we were introduced to the officer who was leading the expedition and a Norwegian who had served in the Norwegian Resistance, an expert in winter warfare who was going to be training us for the mission that we had no inkling about.
The Falklands is now considered the best-kept secret in the British Army, and being posted there normally meant an easy few years; however, things were different in the 1940s - even more so for those who had been selected with me.
We were forced to undertake a grueling month’s training where we were prepared for cold-weather warfare. From being plunged into the icy Atlantic to facing the elements in a tent on South Georgia, the training was arduous and there seemed little sense in the madness that we were forced to undertake. However, after the month’s training we were briefed by a Major and a scientist, and as the mission was relayed to us we all realized that there would be little chance of us all returning, especially if the suspicions proved correct.
We were informed that we were to investigate "anomalous" activities around the Mühlig-Hoffmann Mountains (click image left) from the British base in Maudheim. Antarctica, so we were told, was "Britain’s secret war". We were then briefed on British activities in the South Pole during the war.
We sat intrigued as to what was being divulged; none of us had heard anything so fascinating or frightening. It was not common knowledge that the Nazis had been to Antarctica in 1938 and 1939, and even less known was the fact that Britain began to set up secret bases around Antarctica in response.
The one we were to visit, Maudheim, was the biggest and most important as well as the most clandestine Antarctic base of them all. The reason for its importance was the fact that it was within 200 miles of where the Nazis had supposedly built their Antarctic base.
We sat there stunned, but still the mystery deepened. We were told about German activity in the Southern Ocean around Antarctica. We were also informed that an inestimable number of U-boats were missing and unaccounted for; but worse, some of those that had surrendered months after the War had ended fuelled even more speculation.
British forces had captured three of the biggest names in the Nazi party - Hess, Himmler and Dönitz - and with their captures Britain was given information that was not going to be shared with Russia or the United States. That information compelled Britain to act alone, and we were spearheading that operation.
We were told in no specific terms what was expected of us and what Britain expected us to find on Antarctica. Britain had more than a strong suspicion that the Germans had built a secret base and had spirited many of the unaccounted Nazis away from the turmoil in Europe.
Still, more and more revelations were forthcoming. The summer before, we were told, the original scientists and commandos had found an "ancient tunnel". Under orders, the force went through the tunnel but only two returned before the Antarctic winter set in. During the winter months, the two survivors made absurd claims over the radio about "Polar Men, ancient tunnels and Nazis". Radio contact was finally lost in July 1945, and ominously for our mission, going into the unknown, the last broadcast brought us all further anxiety as we listened to the fear in the voice: "...the Polar Men have found us!" was screamed before contact was lost.
After the radio broadcast was played, we were then given a rousing speech from the Major who would be leading the expedition to investigate what had happened.
"We are to go to the base at Maudheim, find the tunnel, investigate the enigma of the Polar Men and the Nazis and do what we can to make sure the Nazi threat is destroyed."
When asked for questions, we all had so many, and thankfully the answers were honest and direct.
We were informed that evasive action was being taken because Britain was well aware of US and USSR intentions in mounting their own expeditions, and Britain did not want to risk the chance that the US or the USSR would discover the base and gain further Nazi technology. Both countries had a technological advantage over Britain because of the scientists, equipment and research both countries had recovered.
Nevertheless, Britain wanted to be the nation to destroy the menace because Britain viewed Antarctica as under the British Empire’s jurisdiction, and if the Nazis were there it was their duty and their desire to eradicate them first and thus deny both the USA and the USSR the propaganda value of fighting the last battle of World War II.
We were flown to the pre-designated drop-off point which was 20 miles from the Maudheim base; snow tractors had already been dispatched and were awaiting our arrival. After parachuting into the icy wilderness, full of fear and trepidation, we reached the snow tractors and from that moment on we were on a war footing. We had to operate under complete radio silence. We were alone, with no back-up and no chance of retreat if our worst fears were confirmed.
We approached the base wary of what was awaiting us, but when we got there the base appeared devoid of life, a ghost town. Instantly, our suspicions were roused, but, just like all the previous campaigns I had fought during the War, we had a job to do and so our personal fears could not shroud our judgment.
As we split up to search the base, a trip wire was detonated and a siren sounded, destroying the silence and startling the whole force. A shout was soon heard, demanding us to identify ourselves, but the voice could not be targeted. With our guns raised the Major introduced us to the voice, and then, thankfully, the voice was given a body. The voice belonged to a lone survivor, and what he divulged made us more anxious and had us wishing that there were more troops amongst our ranks.
The lone survivor claimed that in Bunker One was the other survivor from the "tunnel" trip, along with one of the mysterious Polar Men that we had heard on the recorded broadcast. Despite obstructions and objections from the survivor, Bunker One was ordered to be opened. The survivor had to be held back and his fear and anguish panicked us instantly, and none of us wanted to be the one to enter the bunker.
Fortunately, I was not selected to enter; that honour was bestowed on the youngest member of our unit. He proceeded inside, hesitating slightly as he struggled with the door. Once inside, a silence descended across the base, followed moments later by two gunshots. The door was opened and the Polar Man dashed to freedom. None of us was expecting what we saw, and the Polar Man had fled into the surrounding terrain so quick that only a few token shots were fired.
Out of fear and awe at what we had seen, we all decided to go into the bunker. Go in we did, and two bodies were found. The soldier who had pulled the short straw was found with his throat ripped out, and, more heinous, the survivor had been stripped to the bones.
What we had witnessed demanded answers; and with our abject anger at seeing one of our unit die within hours of our landing on the continent, our anger was taken out on the lone survivor who had warned us against opening Bunker One.
The whole unit listened categorically to the Major’s questions, but it was the answers that were to provoke the most intrigue. The first question that needed answering was just what had happened to the other survivor, and how he had become trapped in the bunker with that Polar Man. However, the lone survivor preferred to start from the beginning, from when they had first found the "tunnel". Whilst he narrated what had happened, the scientist who had accompanied us scribbled down everything divulged.
It transpired that the area near the tunnel was one of Antarctica’s unique dry valleys, and that was how they managed to find the tunnel with such ease. Every one of the 30 personnel at the Maudheim base was ordered to investigate and, if possible, find out exactly where the tunnel led.
They followed the tunnel for miles, and eventually they came to a vast underground cavern that was abnormally warm; some of the scientists believed that it was warmed geothermally. In the huge cavern were underground lakes; however, the mystery deepened, as the cavern was lit artificially. The cavern proved so extensive that they had to split up, and that was when the real discoveries were made.
The Nazis had constructed a huge base into the caverns and had even built docks for U-boats, and one was identified supposedly. Still, the deeper they travelled, the more strange visions they were greeted with.
The survivor reported that "hangars for strange planes and excavations galore" had been documented.
Building Base Camp at Maudheim
However, their presence had not gone unnoticed: the two survivors at the Maudheim base witnessed their comrades get captured and executed one by one. After witnessing only six of the executions, they fled to the tunnel, lest they be caught, with the aim to block up the tunnel - though "it was too late; the Polar Men were coming", claimed the survivor.
With enemy forces hot on their tail, they had no choice but to try to get back to the base so that they could inform and warn their superiors about what they had uncovered. They managed to get back to the base, but, with winter approaching and little chance of rescue, they believed it was their duty to make sure the secret Nazi base was reported; and so they split up, each taking a wireless and waiting in separate bunkers.
One of the survivors tempted one of the Polar Men into the bunker in the hope that they’d believe only one had survived. The plan worked, but to the detriment of his life and to the radio. Unfortunately, the brave soul in Bunker One had the only fully operational wireless radio, which was destroyed in the fracas. The other survivor had no option but to sit, wait and try to avoid going stir crazy.
The mystery of who or what the Polar Men were was explained, not satisfactorily but explained nonetheless, as a product of Nazi science; and the enigma of how the Nazis were getting power was also explained, albeit not in scientific terms. The power that the Nazis were utilizing was by volcanic activity, which gave them heat for steam and also helped produce electricity, but the Nazis had also mastered an unknown energy source because the survivor claimed:
"...after what I witnessed, the amount of electricity needed is more than could be produced, in my opinion, by steam".
The scientist amongst the party dismissed most of what was divulged, and rebuked the survivor for his lack of scientific education and implied that his revelations "could not possibly be true". Though the scientist dismissed the survivor’s claims, the Major didn’t. He wanted to know more about the enemy that we were facing, but, more fundamentally, just what the Polar Man was going to do next. The answer from the survivor did nothing to comfort us and provoked the scientist to announce that the survivor was "certifiable".
Disconcerted is too weak a word to describe how we felt when the survivor replied to the Major’s questions about the escaped Polar Man’s intentions:
"He will wait, watch and wonder just how different we taste."
On hearing that, the Major issued the battle cry, and guard duty was set up whilst the Major and the scientist discussed, in private, just what we were to do next, even though it was obvious to the rest of us.
The next morning we were ordered to "investigate the tunnel", and for the next 48 hours we made our way steadily to the dry valley and the supposed "ancient tunnel". Upon arriving in the dry valley we were all amazed, for we had been told that Antarctica was completely ice-bound and yet here we were in a valley that reminded me of being back in the North African Sahara. We were forbidden from even approaching the tunnel until the temporary base camp had been erected; and whilst the men constructed the base, the scientist and Major investigated the tunnel.
After a few hours, they returned to the now complete camp to chronicle what they had seen and what our next plan of action was to be. The tunnel was not an ancient passageway at all, claimed the scientist, although the Major added that the walls were made of smooth granite and looked infinite. We were informed that we would be able to make our own minds up after we had rested for the night.
Sleeping in Antarctica during the summer months was difficult with perpetual daylight covering the continent; but that night, sleep was even more difficult to come by with all the thoughts running through each of our minds about what we would find and just when, or where, we would encounter the Polar Man again.
Just before we were assigned our times for guard duty, we were informed that we would be following the tunnel all the way - "...to the Führer, if needs be".
That night our fears were confirmed, as the Polar Man did indeed return. However, this time no more casualties occurred [on our side], but the Polar Man was slain as he was lured to the camp. The scientist decided that the Polar Man was "human" but, it seemed, had been able to produce more hair and withstand the cold far more effectively. The corpse, after a brief post-mortem, was stored in a body bag, and with the cold could be preserved until a more meticulous dissection could occur.
The next morning it was decided that two would remain at the tunnel’s entrance with the corpse, the tractors, the equipment but, more fundamentally, the radio. The Major, leading the expedition, needed the Norwegian for his expertise and also the scientist; the survivor, too, was critical for the mission’s success. The rest of us wanted to join them. I was selected with the other jubilant four who would be undertaking one of the most exciting and possibly one of the most important expeditions in human history.
The two who were kept behind were disappointed, but their roles were just as vital to the mission’s success as the nine who would be traversing into the unknown.
As the nine of us prepared to enter the tunnel, we made sure that we took enough ammunition and explosives to wage a small war and hopefully destroy the base in its entirety, for that was our mission: not to salvage, but to destroy.
We walked into the darkness, and thankfully after four hours of walking we began to see some light in the far distance. However, the light was still another hour away; and as each of us battled with our mind’s questions of what we would uncover, we inched forward.
Eventually we reached the vast cavern that was artificially lit. We were then led to where the survivors had witnessed the executions. The survivor stated it was as covert as one could possibly have wished for.
As we looked over the entire cavern network, we were overwhelmed by the numbers of personnel scurrying about like ants, but what was impressive was the huge constructions that were being built. From what we were witnessing, the Nazis, it appeared, had been on Antarctica a long time. The scientist jotted down everything he could, drew diagrams and took rock samples as well as the odd photograph. The Major, on the other hand, was more interested in how the base was to be destroyed without being caught by the Nazis present.
After two days of vigilant reconnaissance, the scientist and Major decided on the targets for the mines. The mines were to be placed all around the roof of the cavern, with other targets on the to-do list such as the generator and the petrol dumps and, if possible and attainable, the ammunition dumps.
Throughout the day, mines were laid and more photos were taken; and with the odds of not being detected looking good, a hostage was taken, as well as proof of the Nazi base, the "Polar Man" and photographs of new, and quite advanced, Nazi technology.
When the mission to place the mines that would destroy the base had been accomplished, as well as substantial proof of the base gathered, we headed towards the tunnel - but, alas, we were spotted, and more of the Polar Men and a troop of Nazis gave chase. Upon reaching the tunnel, we needed to put an obstacle in the way to slow down our enemy long enough for the mines to detonate. Some mines were placed at the entrance to the tunnel, and when the explosions were heard we were hopeful that not just the base had been comprehensively destroyed but so, too, the enemy forces giving chase. We were wrong.
The mines did indeed close the tunnel, but, for those Nazis and Polar Men behind, the chase was still on. In a fighting retreat, only three of the 10 escaped the tunnel: the Norwegian, the scientist and myself. The rest had fallen gallantly in making sure that some of the party survived.
Upon reaching the safety of the dry valley, enough mines were laid to close the tunnel permanently. After the mines were detonated, there was no evidence of any tunnel ever existing.
Suspiciously, very little of the evidence unearthed remained. Whether it had been lost accidentally or purposely, it mattered little because the scientist had already made his and, ultimately, the mission’s own conclusions.
The camp was disbanded and we returned to the Maudheim base where we were evacuated and flown back to the safety of the Falkland Islands Dependencies. Upon reaching South Georgia, we were issued with a directive that we were forbidden to reveal what we had seen, heard or even encountered.
The tunnel was explained away as nothing more than a freak of nature; "glacial erosion" was the scientist’s specific term. The "Polar Men" were nothing more than "unkempt soldiers that had gone crazy"; the fact that they were German was never submitted into the report, and any notion of the mission going public was firmly rebutted. The mission would never be made official, though certain elements of the mission were to be leaked to the Russians and the Americans.
So my last Christmas of World War II was spent on the Antarctic continent in 1945, fighting the same Nazis that I had fought against every Christmas since 1940. What was worse was the fact that the expedition was never given any recognition, nor the survivors any credit. Instead, the British survivors were de-mobbed from the forces, whilst the scientist and his report would soon disappear, the mission never to be known about except by the select few.
That mission never made the history books, but the return mission in February 1950, conducted by a joint British–Swedish–Norwegian expedition that lasted till January 1952, did. The main purpose of the expedition was to verify and investigate some of the findings of the 1938–39 Nazi expeditions to Neuschwabenland.
Five years after our mission, Maudheim and Neuschwabenland were revisited, and that expedition had everything to do with the Neuschwabenland campaign, but, more importantly, with what we had destroyed. For the intermediate years between the missions, the Royal Air Force continuously flew flights over Neuschwabenland. The RAF’s official reason for their extensive flights was that they were searching for suitable places to set up base camps. However, one can’t help but wonder.3
[The SAS officer’s account ends here. Ed.]
How Britain Gained the "Knowledge"
My U-boat men, six years of U-boat warfare lie behind us. You have fought like lions. A crushing superiority has compressed us into a narrow area. The continuation of the struggle is impossible from the bases that remain. U-boat men, unbroken in your war-like courage, you are laying down your arms after a heroic fight which knows no equal.
In reverent memory we think of our comrades who have sealed their loyalty to the Führer and Fatherland with their death. Comrades, maintain in the future your U-boat spirit with which you have fought at sea, bravely and unflinchingly, during the long welfare of our Fatherland. Long live Germany!
Your Grand Admiral
– Grand Admiral Dönitz
4 May 1945, ordering his U-boats to start their return journey
With 16 German U-boats sunk in the South Atlantic area between October 1942 and September 1944, and with most of those sunk engaged in covert activities, Britain had long since been aware of Neuschwabenland being a possible base, but it was not until after the war in Europe had ended that the world awoke to the possibility.
On 18 July 1945, newspapers around the world focused their headlines on Antarctica. The New York Times stated "Antarctic Haven Reported", whilst others claimed that "Hitler had been at the South Pole".4 These headlines which shook the world were based, in part, on fact. The news reports and events happening in South America made the world sit up and take notice, not least the military forces of the United States and Great Britain.
On 10 June 1945, an unmarked German U-boat surrendered to the Argentine Navy; no further details were released. The whereabouts of at least a hundred other U-boats were still a mystery, as renowned historian Basil Liddell Hart noted: "During the early months of 1945 the size of the U-boat fleet was still increasing... In March, the U-boat fleet reached its peak strength of 463 [emphasis added]." 5
The mystery deepened when, on 10 July 1945, the German U-530 surrendered at Mar del Plata, Argentina, and it only took eight days for the world to know. However, the U-boat mystery did not end with U-530; just over a month later, on 17 August 1945, U-977 also surrendered at Mar del Plata. Even more curious was the fact that the same month, U-465 was scuttled off Patagonia.
Only three months after the Kreigsmarine’s U-boat’s strength had peaked, the first of the unaccounted-for U-boats appeared. Unfavorably though, historians tend to gloss over the enigma of the missing U-boats and Hart also offers no explanation other than to explain the 362 known U-boats’ fate: "After Germany surrendered in May, 159 U-boats surrendered but a further 203 were scuttled by their crews. That was characteristic of the U-boat crews’ stubborn pride and unshakeable morale." 6
With so many U-boats missing - a minimum of 40 were estimated missing at the end of the War - and with Britain still possessing one of the world’s largest navies and strategically based territories in the Falklands and Antarctica, Britain was the most ideally placed of all the Allies to deal with a Nazi haven. It would have been the best informed about the missing U-boats due to its southern hemisphere territories and an empire that, though crumbling, was still the largest the world had ever seen. Intelligence soon substantiated the suspicions with the interrogations of the captains of both the U-977 and U-530.
Captain Wilhelm Bernhard, commanding the U-530, claimed that under Operation Valkyrie-2 his U-boat set off to the Antarctic on 13 April 1945. Under interrogation he divulged just what the mission had involved. Supposedly, 16 crew members had landed on the Antarctic shore and deposited numerous boxes that were apparently documents and relics from the Third Reich. Heinz Scheffer, captain of the U-977, also claimed that his U-boat had spirited relics away from the Reich. However, less plausible is the theory that the U-boat delivered the remains of Hitler and Eva Braun to the South Pole, and other theories that the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny were also taken to the Antarctic only cloud the truth.
What does help substantiate their story is the little-known fact (which Pravda reported on 16 January 2003) that, in 1983, Special Services seized a confidential letter that Captain Scheffer wrote to Captain Bernhard, and in the letter Scheffer pleads to Bernhard not to publish his memoirs in too profound a detail and, in fact, states his intent for the world not to know the truth:
"We all made an oath to keep the secret; we did nothing wrong: we just obeyed orders and fought for our loved Germany and its survival. Please think again; isn’t it better to picture everything as a fable? What results do you plan to achieve with your revelations? Think about it, please." 7
Another mystery that has never been solved is that of the cargo of mercury contained inside U-859 which was sunk on 23 September 1944 by the British Royal Navy submarine HMS Trenchant in the Strait of Malacca in the Java Sea, so far from home with such an anomalous cargo - a cargo that could be utilized as a fuel source.
The survivors divulged to their British captors what they had been carrying, and that information would have definitely raised eyebrows when their find was relayed to British Intelligence.
The case of U-859 was not an isolated one. Many German U-boats were active throughout the world; many supplied the Japanese throughout the war and, strangely, even after the German capitulation. In July 1945, an unmarked German U-boat, supposedly part of a secret convoy, delivered a new invention to Japanese research and development units. The Japanese constructed and activated the device. The device soared into the sky where, however inauspiciously, it burst into flames. It was never dared to be built again.
The British Navy, having already retrieved many of the U-boats that had surrendered in Norway, was well aware that many more had fled, especially if the tale reported in the Latin American press about a German U-boat convoy totally annihilating the British destroyers that engaged the convoy is to be believed. On 2 May 1945, El Mercurio and Der Weg claimed that the final naval battle of World War II between the Kreigsmarine and the Royal Navy had been won by the Kreigsmarine, and that the story had been suppressed in the Western press for fear of stimulating German resistance.
Only one destroyer was reputedly spared and the Captain was reported as declaring, "May God help me, may I never again encounter such a force".8 Though the story has been suppressed and the British Government would never admit to the event, rumors of the naval battle are whispered amongst ex-servicemen - but alas, very little of the rumor is substantiated.
The missing U-boats were part of the Antarctic jigsaw puzzle that Britain had been putting together since the Nazis first sent Admiral Ritscher on his Thule-sponsored polar mission. And with Britain’s Intelligence network - the SOE (Special Operations Executive) and the SIS (Secret Intelligence Service) - providing virtually all the information to the Allied Forces via the Enigma machine 9 and its immense European spy network during the War, the picture was appearing slowly.
One prime example of Britain’s Intelligence excelling was in how much Britain knew about the Nazi’s secret atomic weapons programs which, in turn, helped the RAF bomb the Nazi’s secret research station at Peenemünde in the Baltic Sea.
The Germans were at a loss to how the British had even heard about it, let alone been able to bomb it.
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Endnotes
1. Admiral Byrd’s press release, 12 November 1946.
2. El Mercurio, 5 March 1947; Admiral Byrd interviewed by Lee van Atta.
3. Former British SAS officer, documenting the 1945–46 Neuschwabenland campaign.
4. Le Monde, 18 July 1945.
5. Hart, Basil Liddell, History of the Second World War, Cassell, London, p. 410.
6. ibid., p. 411.
7. Pravda, 16 January 2003, citing a confidential letter from Scheffer to Bernhard. The letter, dated 1 June 1983, was seized by Special Services, whom a German source claims were from the former German Democratic Republic (GDR) and sent at the USSR’s behest.
8. The Captain cited by El Mercurio and Der Weg has never been named, nor has the story been given any credence by the British Navy.
9. The Intelligence network performed wonders for the Allies, especially after the capture of an Enigma machine with decoding documents on 9 May 1941; the German U-110 was captured by HMS Bulldog and HMS Aubretia of the 3rd Escort Group. The Germans never discovered the fact that Britain had broken their "unbreakable" codes. However, it was Britain’s fortuitous capture which painted the full picture and helped complete the jigsaw puzzle, thus compelling them to take the possibility of a Nazi Antarctic haven seriously before others did.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 05:14 AM
http://www.scouting.milestones.btinternet.co.uk/siple.htm
SIPLE WITH ADMIRAL BYRD IN THE ANTARCTIC
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 06:13 AM
http://www.artivision.fr/docs/ElMercurio.jpg
ADMIRAL BYRD REFERS TO THE STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE OF THE POLES.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 06:32 AM
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Kathleen Higgins "Angel33"
This review is from: The Missing Diary of Admiral Richard E. Byrd (Paperback)
I do think that if Mr. Byrd had been believed that we may all be in a different set of circumstances right now. There might have been more contact with the people in the Hollow Earth, even more then there is now. We might be experiencing more peace and less war and certainly better finances. Perhaps if they are Extraterrestrials in the Hollow Earth, then maybe we would have already been flying in UFO's and truly visiting other Planets in our Galaxy by now. Think about it. Wouldn't that be awesome?
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New caption: "The Aviation Pilots in Conference in the Library". Left to right: Dean C. Smith, Alton N. Parker, Richard E. Byrd, Bernt Balchen, and Harold June.
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RARE (if not unique) photo taken May 9, 1926, showing the meeting of polar adversaries Richard E. Byrd and
Roald Amundsen.
Lot 677
Byrd, Richard E (1888-1957) U.S. admiral; Arctic explorer. Typed letter signed ("R.E. Byrd") 1p, 11 x 8½ in., Boston, MA, 4 October 1933. As one ship of his 1933-34 Antarctic expedition has just left and another is leaving, Byrd writes to a wealthy supporter apprising her of the expedition's mission and asking her assistance. In part: "My personnel, as well as myself, has been hard at work for months in preparation, and you will have my enduring appreciation if you will give me financial assistance, thereby enabling me to purchase Eskimo dogs for this expedition. It will cost $1500 for me to purchase thirty dogs…" Very good; some separation at lower horizontal fold, tape remnants on verso, and slight fading to signature.
Estimated Value $250 - 350.
butters
26-02-2012, 01:38 PM
:D:D
hi five!
pendingiguess
26-02-2012, 03:34 PM
Heartbeat that is a fascinating read. So polar men sound essentially like bigfoot, but they were explained as a nazi genetic experiment? And they work with/for the nazis? Did I read that correctly haha. Pretty interesting.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 06:28 PM
Heartbeat that is a fascinating read. So polar men sound essentially like bigfoot, but they were explained as a nazi genetic experiment? And they work with/for the nazis? Did I read that correctly haha. Pretty interesting.
LOL, no,pendingiguess, the Nazis started alone, before the Americans, but couldn't do anymore because The Reich fell. Since Americans got all german scientists to work for them, after WWII, they made their own exploration with Admiral Byrd and men backed by their American governments. They each wanted the glory for themselves alone.At any rate, the Hollow Earth theory has been going on since 17th Century, and has been patented. NO big foot here.LOL
I wonder what America and Germany are doing today now that Hitler is out of the picture though, that we do not know.
It must have been the same way Russians and Americans collaborated with each other in the space race, seeing it only as "progress for science", in the cold war ,but did not cease to be enemies in those days, just diplomacy.
No, haha, no genetic experiment. Hitler wanted the hollow Earth so he could win the war.
Glad you enjoyed reading this ,as much as I enjoyed doing it.
pendingiguess
26-02-2012, 06:46 PM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_13.htm
Britain's secret war in Antarctica
The mystery of who or what the Polar Men were was explained, not satisfactorily but explained nonetheless, as a product of Nazi science; and the enigma of how the Nazis were getting power was also explained, albeit not in scientific terms. The power that the Nazis were utilizing was by volcanic activity, which gave them heat for steam and also helped produce electricity, but the Nazis had also mastered an unknown energy source because the survivor claimed:
"...after what I witnessed, the amount of electricity needed is more than could be produced, in my opinion, by steam".
The scientist amongst the party dismissed most of what was divulged, and rebuked the survivor for his lack of scientific education and implied that his revelations "could not possibly be true". Though the scientist dismissed the survivor’s claims, the Major didn’t. He wanted to know more about the enemy that we were facing, but, more fundamentally, just what the Polar Man was going to do next. The answer from the survivor did nothing to comfort us and provoked the scientist to announce that the survivor was "certifiable".
Disconcerted is too weak a word to describe how we felt when the survivor replied to the Major’s questions about the escaped Polar Man’s intentions:
"He will wait, watch and wonder just how different we taste."
On hearing that, the Major issued the battle cry, and guard duty was set up whilst the Major and the scientist discussed, in private, just what we were to do next, even though it was obvious to the rest of us.
...
That night our fears were confirmed, as the Polar Man did indeed return. However, this time no more casualties occurred [on our side], but the Polar Man was slain as he was lured to the camp. The scientist decided that the Polar Man was "human" but, it seemed, had been able to produce more hair and withstand the cold far more effectively. The corpse, after a brief post-mortem, was stored in a body bag, and with the cold could be preserved until a more meticulous dissection could occur.
...
The tunnel was explained away as nothing more than a freak of nature; "glacial erosion" was the scientist’s specific term. The "Polar Men" were nothing more than "unkempt soldiers that had gone crazy"; the fact that they were German was never submitted into the report, and any notion of the mission going public was firmly rebutted. The mission would never be made official, though certain elements of the mission were to be leaked to the Russians and the Americans.
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I did not think my suggestion was that far of a stretch :D. For one thing they are talking about the polar man like they can't figure out what it is, then they decide it's human but hairy. And eats humans apparently. If the polar man was obviously just an unkempt soldier I'm sure he would have been identified as such in the beginning, and not in the sloppy cover up story way in the end. That's what I think anyway.
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 06:56 PM
I did not think my suggestion was that far of a stretch :D. For one thing they are talking about the polar man like they can't figure out what it is, then they decide it's human but hairy. And eats humans apparently. If the polar man was obviously just an unkempt soldier I'm sure he would have been identified as such in the beginning, and not in the sloppy cover up story way in the end. That's what I think anyway.
Perhaps pendingiguess, knowing the racist plans of the Nazis, it could have been something more than discovery to them. Who knows if the Americans are studying that also. So Big foot is in all this after all. The Polar man as another species.Thanks for calling it to my attention.
pendingiguess
26-02-2012, 07:06 PM
The whole account is quite amazing. I am also very interested in the dry and warm parts they mentioned as we are generally led to believe that Antarctica is just a big useless continent covered in snow. I suppose if that were the case there would not be so much fighting over it. I have not gotten through this whole thread yet, but I am wondering where you think the hollow earth entrances are if there are more than this one? :)
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 07:07 PM
This is quite interesting ,specially the video by a Government Insider on Hollow Earth 2008.
http://sitfu.com/2012/02/government-insider-speaks-out-on-hollow-earth/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNpNMNbxXA
Leakeagee by Government innsider 2008
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 07:28 PM
The whole account is quite amazing. I am also very interested in the dry and warm parts they mentioned as we are generally led to believe that Antarctica is just a big useless continent covered in snow. I suppose if that were the case there would not be so much fighting over it. I have not gotten through this whole thread yet, but I am wondering where you think the hollow earth entrances are if there are more than this one? :)
http://datachurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/agharta.jpg
This is the classical Map of Hollow Earth, you'll find it bigger back in the thread. Anyway, it has all the entrances we know of in different parts of the Earth.
pendingiguess
26-02-2012, 07:30 PM
Thank you, looks great!!
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 08:00 PM
Hollow Earth Hohle Erde 2/5 This video will blow your mind - YouTube
HOLLOW EARTH HOHLE ERDE, THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
9/12/11 LEAKED Insider Recording About NASA UFOs | Aliens | Moon Bases | Apollo PT2 - YouTube
9/12/11 LEAKED INSIDER RECORDING
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 09:38 PM
The last Macuxies (from the northern Amazon) tell us that, until the year 1907 they entered a cavern and walked from 13 to 15 days until they reached the interior. There, "at the other side of the world", live the "big men", who measured from 10' to 11'6". They're really nice but you have to follow their indications.
The main motto of the Macuxies of this place, was to look out for the entrance of the cavern, keeping out everyone who was not an authorized member of the tribe. When the great wind wich ran through the great tunnel began blowing outside, (it had a rhythm of 5 days blowing out and another 5 blowing in) they could start climbing down the stairs (about 33" each step).
The stairs ended at the third day (they kept record of the days with thir stomachs and sleep time, wich is pretty accurate). They left there the breos (torches made of sticks impregnated with tar from nearby oil ponds), and they carried on iluminated by lights that were just there, as big as a watermelon and clear as a bulb. Each passing day they walked faster, since they lost weight and corporal mass. They crossed 5 well marked places trough some huge caverns whose ceilings they could not see. There were (in one of the chambers) four sun-like lights, impossible to stare at, but surely not as high as the sun it self.
On this place grew some trees with good fruit, like cajúes, oaks, mangos, bananas and some lesser plants. Comparing with some Macuxies places, this chamber would have about 10 square kilometers of "passable" and vegetated surface. Some other sectors were out of reach and very dangerous, with boiling stone and creeks of "azoge" (quicksilver, wich they learned its use to gather the golddust, due the "garimpeiros" wich today pollute with it the Amazonian waters). After these five huge chambers, in a point beyond half way, they should hang to walls and move carefully, because they "flew" (They were in zero gravity like an astronaut).
The wind which had begun to blow outside, it wasn't an obstacle when they started the drop, but if they attempted it backwards, the turmoil of the whirlwind could drag them to the abysmal tunnel, and the corpse — battered about a thousand times — won't stop until one day of path down the cave. Respecting this cycle, starting their march against the wind (which was for their own safety) they climbed down three days on the stairs and after two days of march on a narrow stair-less tunnel, the wind blew back inside, hence they watched their steps since the days they departed, to not leave loose stones on their path wich would hit them in the back. Even with the wind in their favor — about day 7 or 8 of their march — they reached the place where "everything flies", which is the center of the Earth's crust. (The middle of the mass, magnetically speaking, which is not the geometrical center of the Earth, but any point in the middle of the thick of the crust).
Sometimes the wind was so strong, and instead of using the walls to impulse themselves, they should do it to stop and avoid being hit. The gravity-less travel usually lasted from a few hours to 36 hours. Sometimes they should hang to the rocky edges to metal pieces that were in the rock there before they passed by, and wait two days until the wind died. Then they followed the road characterized by creeks with cold water that passed trough the cavern and fell into a void, larger than the previous ones, where lied some brilliant stuff with the same shape of bee hives, about 10 meters of diameter, placed above a seedling, like a tree´s log, at a height imprecise by the memory of the last Macuxies who live remembering that, still with fear of retaliation from "the Big Men"
The travelers were gaining weight again, but they didn't get it all back, because they came out in "the land in the other side", where everything is lighter, the sun is red and it's always daytime, without night, stars or moon. They remained there a few days enjoying some nearby beaches, getting younger as the time passed by. (This reminds of Apollo who traveled to Olympus to rejuvenate). Macuxies knew perfectly the Atlantic ocean, since they were –outside- about 200 miles from the coast and this wasn`t the sea. The giants gave them some big and delicious fishes, and its meat didn't rot until two or three months after being fished. With this precious cargo, apples bigger than a human head and grapes fist-sized, besides a lot of body energy, they came back accompanied by some giants who helped them to carry the enormous weight they carried back. The returning trip started with the wind blowing on their backs, to have it again in there on the last stage of the journey, when they climbed the stairs the last three days , whose ruins exists nowadays.
The belief (or knowledge) of the Macuxies, is that if they follow the rules given by the giants, after they die here in the outside, they'll be reborn in there, among them. They tell that some Macuxies hadn't died, but they transformed (transfigured?) into half giants and they stayed inside. This required mainly, not having offspring in the outside.
Tragedy came to the Macuxies in 1907. Three british explorers, reached in the name of her queen searching for diamonds. Macuxi's lands still have some diamonds today, but it has been exploited since 1912 and there are almost none in there, making their extraction barely or non-profitable. When the English came, there was enough to please the queen and many greedy people who got rich, exploiting the native, but one of those "Authorized travelers to the center of the earth" made a terrible mistake violating the motto of their secret, and told the foreigners the entrance place.
One of them sent a letter to Her Majesty, repeating her a tale like this one, with some more details. In the beaches of the inner lands, there's an abundance of diamonds, just like there is in some carbon mines of serpentine, from ancient volcanic shafts, wich are today, precisely, those tunnels to the interior of the world. The three men went out (or went in) in an expedition, but they did not come back ever again. In their place, the giants came out, punished the Macuxies and they banned them from entering inside ever again.
After two years of poverty and angst (That zone, in the outer surface had diamonds — useless for them back then — but lacked fruit and fish), they chose to attempt a new contact with the giants, despite the banning. They traveled with hopes for two days, but they reached a point in the path where the wind came from a cavern they did not know. The original road had collapsed. Some of them returned immediately, but some other chose to follow the new and unknown path. Several months later one of them came back and told the others that they could come inside, but they could never go out ever again, because more English would come in their land and hurt them. Some of them refused to go, because the place assigned to them was one of those huge caves. Some accepted to go and never came back.
Years later, the garampeiros started to arrive, to pollute the rivers with zarandas, resumidoras and quicksilver and to destroy the minds of the Macuxies that stayed behind with drugs. They also clouded their minds with whips and polluted their race, raping their women. During June or July of 1946 there was a huge collapse in the tunnel, destroying almost all the stairs. Today there's only some steps at the beginning of it and a huge and unclimbable pit where the wind blows with different rhythms. Some old Macuxies who escaped the English whip, and still live counting their age in moons, don´t give up entirely to forget the Lost Paradise. A suitable phrase, because they knew it... and lost it.
posted by Shilo at 9:05 AM
New
Discovery documentary is back!
How large is the polar opening?
Video of north polar opening!
New aurora australis video!
Recommended Reading
The Smoky God — Olaf Jansen
Etidorhpa — John Uri Lloyd
Seismological data — David Pratt
Genesis for the New Space Age — John B. Leith
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heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 09:46 PM
http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't."
~Mark Twain
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 10:04 PM
The Hollow Earth 'Theory'
by Peter Farley
The "problem" with what is taught about Earth and all other planets in school is that they are NOT filled with solid rock - they are hollow. Planets have their insides filled with life, usually more than on their external surface. Planets are not just rocks, they are the source of life to those that inhabit them. They have a soul - around and within their bodies.
During the ages, there were always those who knew about planetary hollowness. It is common knowledge to older, wiser Civilizations from other areas of the Universe.
Earth scientists became aware as well, but the knowledge was blocked by the new world order. The governments block this information to the people...
There are entrances to the inside plane of Earth through the poles. The poles are actually holes that go through both sides of the planet, as if a stick had perforated Earth from North to South. The area that can render a compass unusable is located near those poles, and is not a single point but would be close to a circle located on the top and on the bottom of the planet. The circle lies around the "Pole Entrances". This circle area is where the magnetic field lines that surround earth converge on the North and South Pole regions.
Satellite images are modified so that these entrance holes are not shown to the masses. The north entrance is guarded by CIA and military ships. The southern entrance is blocked by ice and has it's access blocked or made further difficult by military bases and patrols.
The planet's inner surface throbs with life and far more life energy than the external one. The reason for this is that the inner Sun, which is what holds the planet energetically together, has direct contact with the beings that live on the inner surface. Usually the outside is less protected and has too much radiation coming from space to keep a healthy level on its surface inhabitants. The inner realm on the other hand has no problems with radiation from space sources/stars because the only source of Light energy in there is the Planet's heart center: a luminous source of heat/Love, Light and Energy to the inner plane.
The inside of Earth is of a higher vibration and all who live there are pulled into the level of vibration equivalent to 4th and 5th dimensional existence. The shift is somewhat gradual, and those coming from the 3rd dimension would feel lighter and have an easier time breathing. This is the ascencion into 4th dimension that blends the light reflected on physical surfaces into the surfaces themselves, making them more permeable to energy, and turning energy reflection into emission of energy. Things become less dense and shadowy. This is not to be confused with the Darkness that controls - that is darkness that limits. The lessening of shadows on higher realms is due to the change of the behavior of energy and how it is less dense than its materialized 3rd dimensional form. Walking into the inner plane would feel like a soft transition to a dream, but subject to being forgotten as it is exited - unless the person has enough consciousness development to remember and integrate the memories into the 3rd dimensional brain, or there are measures taken for the remembering to take place. Forgetting can also be helped, and some things are forgotten because they were made so.
The Inner Sun's Light allows for people/animals/different species of beings to receive healing energies directly into their auric fields. Plants grow larger and with juicier fruits. Men and Women live longer, and are better able to develop their spiritual and physical functions. It is always day and the weather is always warm there. There is a tale of viking immigrants that set sail north in search for the land of eternal spring. They did find the land, it is inner Earth. And they were right about eternal warm weather, for as you get closer to the north pole, the climate becomes hotter. There have been expeditions close to the opening that confirm that there are butterflies and less ice after a certain latitude. Peoples living in Greenland know of the entrance, natives are aware of travelers from the inner plane that stop by for supplies once in a while.
http://www.ufodigest.com/hollowearth.html
heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 10:58 PM
Happy reading!
http://www.theseekerbooks.com/articles/hollow.jpg
THE HOLLOW EARTH BY RAYMOND BERNARD
heartbeatsalute
27-02-2012, 05:45 AM
Hollow Earth (Cartoon Debunker) - YouTube
HOLLOW EARTH(CARTOON DEBUNKER)
heartbeatsalute
27-02-2012, 06:05 AM
Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd - YouTube
Admiral Richard E. Byrd
heartbeatsalute
27-02-2012, 04:00 PM
http://etfriends.com/Subterranean.html
Life Inside Planet Earth
Dolphins and whales with their enhanced abilities to communicate energetically and tel-Empathically, are in contact with many species including humans. They are communicating with us on many levels as we swim in the water with them and as we contact them in meditation. They are also interacting with underwater bases and civilizations who traverse our planet's oceans and maintain a society within our seas, as explained in the section entitled, Underwater Bases, on this web site.
In addition, dolphins and whales are in contact with civilizations who live inside our Earth. Planet Earth is not a solid globe, but a hollow world with two obvious entrances at the poles. There are people living within our Earth, on the inner crust of the globe, who have lived there longer than our current surface Earth civilization has existed. The people of Atlantis were given safe haven during the Great Flood by the inner earth civilization.
The first scientist known to write about life inside the Earth was William Reed who published a book entitled "The Phantom of the Poles" in 1906. Then another book in 1913, re-edited in 1920, was published by Marshall B. Gardner. It was apparent he did not know of the book by Mr. Reed and yet with his own research, he repeated the findings published by William Reed. This book was titled: "A Journey to the Earth's Interior". Mr. Gardner was the first writer to explain the existence of a central Sun within the Earth. He even built a working model of the hollow Earth and patented it (#1096102). Both of these books based their conclusions on the reports of Arctic explorers. And both of these books have been re-published and are now available to buy on Amazon.com.
Two other interesting books that are available as Used books online and in book stores are: "Worlds Beyond the Poles" (1959) written by F. Amado Giannini and "Subterranean Worlds: 100,000 years of dragons, dwarves, the dead, lost races and UFOs from inside the Earth" (1989) written by Walter Kafton-Minkel.
A book by "Dr. Raymond Bernard" appeared in 1964, The Hollow Earth. According to Mr. Bernard our world is hollow, with the crust of the earth being 800 miles thick. There exists two openings at the North and South Pole, each hole having a circumference of 1400 miles wide. At the center of the earth is not a molten core but an inner sun which is six hundred miles wide and is 2900 miles from the Inner Surfaces. The diameter of the lip at the opening at the poles is 1200 miles long, thus a person can not see the other side of the opening.
While I was remote viewing this place during my Into The Future Seminar at Sky Island Ranch, Hawaii, I saw a vast world with mountains and shorelines, and lush green vegetation with rivers and parks. A misty red sun on the horizon was emanating more warmth than seemed warranted. The climate was warm! The tall men and women I met seemed very caring. Their transportation is via hovercrafts and larger disk-shaped spacecrafts that apparently enter and exit the inner Earth. Their homes are mostly dome shaped and their personalities are spiritual; they are compassionate, gentle and wise.
After I shared this remote viewing experience with other people, I was guided to a book that described a journey into the Earth, The Smoky God; A Voyage to the Inner World.
It was in 1908 Willis George Emerson published "The Smoky God", the story of Olaf Jansen who lived in the Earth's Interior for two years in friendship with the giants who live there. This book is also
available at Amazon.com
The book was written using notes and maps from Olaf Jansen of Sweden. He was a boy who often traveled with his father Jens Jansen on fishing trips around the Scandinavian coast. At age nineteen he and his father left Stockholm to take an extended fishing and pleasure voyage. They sailed to Spitzbergen, Norway (now a known ET base) getting their first view of icebergs. Leaving Wijade Bay on June 23, 1829, they sailed to Hinlopen Strait and along the rocky coast of Franz Josef Land. After sailing for 24 hours, they came to a beautiful inlet where the air was unseasonably warm. In front of them they saw an open sea. Both father and son, having a love of the sea and a spirit of adventure, decided in that moment to explore this unknown sea. They turned the bow of their boat in a northerly direction and continued on. After three days, they encountered a fierce storm with high winds and spiraling whirlpools. A mist settled around their boat as they struggled to keep it afloat.
Suddenly they were in calm waters; the storm had passed. As the mist cleared, the first light they noticed was a sun that was shining on them from an apparent southern latitude rather than from the North as they would expect. Tasting some drops of water that splashed on their hand, they discovered it was fresh water. Their story goes on to relate many unusual climate and compass irregularities. The compass needle continued to point north, although Olaf and Jens knew they had sailed over the curve or edge of the Earth.
When they eventually returned to Sweden, and spoke with great enthusiasm about their experiences, they were ridiculed and laughed at. A demoralized Olaf moved to America in 1889. In the last years of his life he met and confided in a neighbor, who was a writer. The book about his experiences was written by Willis George Emerson of Los Angeles. It was published by Forbes and Company in Chicago in 1908. (The Smoky God: A Voyage to the Inner World)
These important, well-documented books are completely ignored by the world of science.
In February, 1947, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, leading a United States Navy Task Force expedition flew for seven hours beyond the North Pole and reached a place never recorded in history before. They proceeded to penetrate the hollow region of the Earth for 1700 miles. There he found a Land that was green and lush with growing plants, flowers and thick forests. Nine years later, January 13, 1956, the same Rear Admiral Byrd, leading another official expedition to the Antarctic, flew from his base at McMurdo Sound which is 400 miles from the South Pole and entered the hollow region of the Earth near the South Pole, for 2300 miles.
icebergOn March 13, 1956 Admiral Byrd returned to the United States and said,"the present expedition has opened up a vast new land." (which he later referred to as an "enchanting continent in the sky.")
These explorations were divulged on the radio at that time, having world-wide significance. Although millions of people heard the announcements and press releases, the U.S. Government decided to strictly censor the information and prevent its circulation. No additional details were given and the reports of Rear Admiral Byrd were ignored by "science" and kept secret by the U.S. Government.
However some scholars were aware of the diaries of Admiral Byrd and they publicized on the radio in 1959, the information that was discovered during the Byrd expeditions. Some of the information is as follows:
The Earth has a hollow space in its interior, where an entire civilization of people live.
These people are more spiritually and technologically advanced then humans living on the surface of Earth.
Within the hollow part of the Earth there is a central sun which shines continuously, creating perpetual daytime. There is no night. There is no ice.
The heat of this sun is what contributes to the warm arctic winds on the surface that seem inexplicable to explorers and scientists.
The climate of the Earth's inner world is sub-tropical with profuse vegetation growing. There are lakes with warm water.
The people living there sometimes leave the inner Earth and travel beyond our planet. They have the technology to come and go undetected.
This hollow area is at least 6000 miles or more in diameter.
Admiral Byrd was not alone in these discoveries, other U.S. Navy Commanders such as Lieutenant Commander David Bunger in 1947 were making the same explorations and finding the land beyond the Poles. The information was concealed as Top Secret. A newspaper in Toronto, Canada published photographic pictures taken from the air showing beautiful green valleys with gently sloping hills.
("Globe and Mail" newspaper, photo taken in 1960)
In 2005, Steven Currey Expeditions planned an expedition to the North Pole region to explore for a possible opening into the inner Earth. Brooks A. Agnew took over as leader on Currey's death in 2006, with the plan of taking 100 communicators, scientists and film makers to the Arctic opening in 2009.
It is understood that the Tibetan monks know of openings into the Earth. Other writers have proposed that Ascended Masters of esoteric wisdom inhabit subterranean caverns. Some of the locations believed to be entrances to another world inside the Earth are accessible in Antarctica, the North Pole, Tibet, the Himalayan Mountains, Peru, Bolivia, The Andes Mountains; Rocky Mountains in Colorado; Mount Shasta and Mount Whitney in California; Grand Tetons in Wyoming; the Secret Valley near Tucson, Arizona, and Mount Fuji, Japan.
Now there a number of interesting books published on this subject. I encourage you to read about the people who share this planet with us. The time is coming closer when they will be willing to open their world to top-siders. They require that we are peaceful and gentle people before entering their idylic civilization.
http://etfriends.com/Resource/innerEarth.jpg
heartbeatsalute
27-02-2012, 06:18 PM
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/images/richard_byrd_fdc.jpg
http://www.thenewearth.org/Interior%20Sun%20image.jpg
heartbeatsalute
27-02-2012, 07:46 PM
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heartbeatsalute
28-02-2012, 05:28 AM
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67061
Operation Deep Freeze Feb.3 ,2012
rosie789
28-02-2012, 12:59 PM
If there were holes wouldn't the oceans drain in from the poles?
It wouldn't be drawn to the sides, it would just sort of float around in the middle.
Then it would evaporate near the sun and you'd get some very extreme weather.
That would be if it managed to reach equilibrium... if not the entire thing would just collapse.
heartbeatsalute
28-02-2012, 04:55 PM
http://www.rense.com/general50/journeybeyondreality.htm
Journey Beyond Reality
MARCH11,1947 Upon Byrd's return he attended the usual debriefing and passed on the following as logged in his diaries:- "I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and my message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours. Six hours 39 minutes to be exact. I am interviewed intensely by hostile forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal. I am placed under strict control of the international security provisions of the United States of America. I am ordered to remain silent in regard to all that I have learned on the behalf of humanity. Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and that I must obey orders. " DECEMBER 24, 1956 -FINAL ENTRY "These last few years since 1947 have not been so kind. I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values and moral rights, Now I seem to sense a long night coming on, and this secret will not die with me, but as truth shall, it shall triumph, and so it shall. It is the only hope for all mankind. I have seen and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free. I have done my duty towards a monstrous military industrial complex. Now the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of truth shall come again, and those who are of darkness shall fail in flight. For I have seen that land beyond the poles, the centre of the great unknown. " Admiral Richard E. Byrd. United States Navy.
http://www.greatbuildings.com/gbc/images/cid_pentagon_usgov_01.jpg
indolering
28-02-2012, 05:50 PM
http://www.rense.com/general50/journeybeyondreality.htm
Journey Beyond Reality
MARCH11,1947 Upon Byrd's return he attended the usual debriefing and passed on the following as logged in his diaries:- "I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and my message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours. Six hours 39 minutes to be exact. I am interviewed intensely by hostile forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal. I am placed under strict control of the international security provisions of the United States of America. I am ordered to remain silent in regard to all that I have learned on the behalf of humanity. Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and that I must obey orders. " DECEMBER 24, 1956 -FINAL ENTRY "These last few years since 1947 have not been so kind. I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values and moral rights, Now I seem to sense a long night coming on, and this secret will not die with me, but as truth shall, it shall triumph, and so it shall. It is the only hope for all mankind. I have seen and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free. I have done my duty towards a monstrous military industrial complex. Now the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of truth shall come again, and those who are of darkness shall fail in flight. For I have seen that land beyond the poles, the centre of the great unknown. " Admiral Richard E. Byrd. United States Navy.
Great post. I'm totally inspired by this man's journey, from his incredible and courageous voyage to the center of the Earth and back again, to his muzzling by his own government and the military, denied the accolades due to one who had made the greatest discovery of the inner Earth.
Thanks, man, for your excellent research and sharing it with us.
heartbeatsalute
28-02-2012, 06:15 PM
http://www.mchumor.com/00images/1719_computer_cartoon.gif
Eureka, I found It!
heartbeatsalute
28-02-2012, 06:23 PM
Great post. I'm totally inspired by this man's journey, from his incredible and courageous voyage to the center of the Earth and back again, to his muzzling by his own government and the military, denied the accolades due to one who had made the greatest discovery of the inner Earth.
Thanks, man, for your excellent research and sharing it with us.
Thank you also indolering ,thanks for the feedback
heartbeatsalute
01-03-2012, 08:46 PM
Admiral Forrestal and Admiral Byrd - HEROES of the Hollow Earth Legend - YouTube
Admiral Forrestal and Admjiral Byrd - Heroes of hollow earth legend
"Admiral Byrd and Admiral Forrestal meant to go public together.
After seeing Admiral Forrestal death, Admiral Byrd self-imposed silence on himself."
heartbeatsalute
01-03-2012, 08:55 PM
Death before Dishonor, James Forrestal a American hero! [RIP] - YouTube
Death before dsihonor ,james forrestal
"suicided"
http://criticalbelievers.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=modernmysteries&thread=14499&page=1
indolering
01-03-2012, 10:09 PM
Death before Dishonor, James Forrestal a American hero! [RIP] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0NGbxzBVI)
Death before dsihonor ,james forrestal
"suicided"
http://criticalbelievers.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=modernmysteries&thread=14499&page=1
Powerful stuff. I first learned about Forrestal from Cooper's book, Pale Horse. He knew all about the aliens as he was there at 'the beginning' (Roswell). As Cooper said, he objected to the secrecy and was murdered for talking too much. He was a hero, in the tradition of other noble military men like Patton and Smedley Butler.
heartbeatsalute
01-03-2012, 11:14 PM
Powerful stuff. I first learned about Forrestal from Cooper's book, Pale Horse. He knew all about the aliens as he was there at 'the beginning' (Roswell). As Cooper said, he objected to the secrecy and was murdered for talking too much. He was a hero, in the tradition of other noble military men like Patton and Smedley Butler.
Yes, for some people too much knowledge can be a dangerous thing. :eek:
heartbeatsalute
01-03-2012, 11:16 PM
This is music by THE HOLLOW EARTH THEORY Rock Band :D
The Hollow Earth Theory-Rise Of Agartha Pt 1 - YouTube
THE RISE OF AGARTHA
crypticmystic
02-03-2012, 09:07 PM
heartbeatsalute...
the hollow you dig, is deep,
...deeply appreciated,...
the earth, 'digs' you
:)
phrased eyebrow
02-03-2012, 09:24 PM
heartbeatsalute...
the hollow you dig, is deep,
...deeply appreciated,...
the earth, 'digs' you
:)
I'd like to +1.
From the "inside". :cool:
heartbeatsalute
03-03-2012, 04:56 AM
http://www.2012.com.au/HollowEarthCities.html#Anchor-11481
Hollow Earth Cities
Recently, America watched Stephen Spielberg's TV pilot, a remake of Verne' s "Journey to the Center of the Earth." A maverick team of scientists aboard their melt-proof ship enter the inner Earth through a bubbling volcano. When things cool off, they find themselves exploring a vast and sunny inner landscape . . . a magical and inviting world with ample room to fly. Their adventure resembles the real life account of a Norwegian sailor named Olaf Jansen. His story, set in the 1800s, is told in Willis Emerson's biography entitled "The Smoky God." Olaf's little sloop drifted so far north by storm that he actually sailed into a polar entrance and lived for two years with one of the colonies of the Agartha Network, called "Shamballa the Lesser." He describes his hosts as those "of the central seat of government for the inner continent . . . measuring a full 12 feet in height . . . extending courtesies and showing kindness . . .laughing heartily when they had to improvise chairs for my father and I to sit in." Olaf tells of a "smoky" inner sun, a world comprised of three-fourths land and one-fourth water.
The Agartha Network
Think of Shamballa the Lesser as the United Nations of over 100 subterranean cities that form the Agartha Network. It is, indeed, the seat of government for the inner world. While Shamballa the Lesser is an inner continent, its satellite colonies are smaller enclosed ecosystems located just beneath the Earth' s crust or discreetly within mountains. All cities in the Agartha Network are physical and are of the Light, meaning that they are tradition of the great mystery schools of the surface, honoring such beings as Jesus/Sananda, Buddha, Isis and Osiris . . . all of the Ascended Masters that we of the surface know and love, in addition to spiritual teachers of their own long-standing heritage. Why did they choose to live underground? Consider the magnitude of the geological Earth changes that have swept the surface over the past 100,000 years. Consider the lengthy Atlantean-Lemurian war and the power of thermonuclear weaponry that eventually sank and destroyed these two highly advanced civilizations. The Sahara, the Gobi, the Australian Outback and the deserts of the U.S . are but a few examples of the devastation that resulted. The sub-cities were created as refuges for the people and as safe havens for sacred records, teachings and technologies that were cherished by these ancient cultures.
Capitol Cities
POSID: Primary Atlantean outpost, located beneath the Mato Grosso plains region of Brazil. Population: 1.3 million.
SHONSHE: Refuge of the Uighur culture, a branch of the Lemurians who chose to form their own colonies 50,000 years ago. Entrance is guarded by a Himalayan lamasery. Population: 3/4 million.
RAMA: Remnant of the surface city of Rama, India located near Jaipur. Inhabitants are known for their classic Hindu features. Population: 1 million.
SHINGWA: Remnant of the northern migration of the Uighurs. Located on the border of Mongolia and China. with a small secondary city in Mt. Lassen, California. Telos translated means "communication with Spirit." Population: 1.5 million.
Spotlight on Telos
How can over a million people make their home inside Mt. Shasta? While we're stretching our imaginations, our neighbors, the Japanese, have already blueprinted underground cities in answer to their surface area problem.
Sub-city habitation has, for thousands of years, been a natural vehicle for human evolution. Now, here is a peek at a well-thought-out ecosystem. The dimensions of this domed city are approximately 1.5 miles wide by 2 miles deep. Telos is comprised of 5 levels.
LEVEL 1: This top level is the center of commerce, education and administration. The pyramid-shaped temple is the central structure and has a capacity of 50,000. Surrounding it are government buildings, the equivalent of a courthouse that promotes an enlightened judicial system, halls of records, arts and entertainment facilities, a hotel for visiting foreign emissaries, a palace which houses the "Ra and Rana Mu" (the reigning King and Queen of the royal Lemurian lineage who are Ascended Masters), a communications tower, a spaceport, schools, food and clothing dispatches and most residences.
LEVEL 2: A manufacturing center as well as a residential level. Houses are circular in shape and dust-free because of it. Like surface living, housing for singles, couples and extended families is the norm.
LEVEL 3: Hydroponic gardens. Highly advanced hydroponic technology feeds the entire city, with some to spare for intercity commerce. All crops yield larger and tastier fruits, veggies and soy products that make for a varied and fun diet for Telosians. Now completely vegetarian, the Agartha Cities have taken meat substitutes to new heights.
LEVEL 4: More hydroponic gardens, more manufacturing and some natural park areas.
LEVEL 5: The nature level. Set about a mile beneath surface ground level, this area is a large natural environment. It serves as a habitat for a wide variety of animals, including those many extinct on the surface. All species have been bred in a non-violent atmosphere, and those that might be carnivorous on the surface now enjoy soy steaks and human interaction. Here you can romp with a Saber-Toothed Tiger with wild abandon. Together with the other plant levels, enough oxygen is produced to sustain the biosphere.
LANGUAGE: While dialects vary from city to city, "Solara Maru," translated as the "Solar Language," is commonly spoken. This is the root language for our sacred languages such as Sanskrit and Hebrew.
GOVERNMENT: A Council of Twelve, six men and six women, together with the Ra and Rana Mu, do collective problem solving and serve as guides and guardians of the people. Positions of royalty such as are held by the Ra and Rana Mu are regarded as ones of responsibility in upholding God' s divine plan. The High Priest, an Ascended Master named Adama, is also an official representative.
COMPUTERS: The Agarthean computer system is amino-acid based and serves a vast array of functions. All of the sub-cities are linked by this highly spiritualized information network. The system monitors inter-city and galactic communication, while, simultaneously, serving the needs of the individual at home. It can, for instance, report your body's vitamin or mineral deficiencies or, when necessary, convey pertinent information from the akashic records for personal growth.
MONEY: Non-existent. All inhabitants' basic needs are taken care of. Luxuries are exchanged via a sophisticated barter system.
TRANSPORTATION: Moving sidewalks, inter-level elevators and electromagnetic sleds resembling our snow mobiles within the city. For travel between cities, residents take "the Tube," an electromagnetic subway system capable of speeds up to 3,000 m.p.h. Yes, Agartheans are well versed in intergalactic etiquette and are members of the Confederation of Planets. Space travel has been perfected, as has the ability for interdimensional shifts that render these ships undetectable.
ENTERTAINMENT: Theatre, concerts and a wide variety of the arts. Also, for you Trekkies, the Holodecks. Program your favorite movie or chapter in Earth history and become a part of it!
CHILDBIRTH: A painless three months, not nine. A very sacred process whereby, upon conception, a woman will go to the temple for three days, immediately welcoming the child with beautiful music, thoughts and imagery. Water birthing in the company of both parents is standard.
HEIGHT: Due to cultural differences, average heights of subterranean citizens vary. Generally 6'5" to 7'5" in Telos, while nearly 12' in Shamballa the Lesser.
AGE: Unlimited. Death by degeneration is simply not a reality in Telos. Most Agartheans choose to look an age between 30 and 40 and stay there, while, technically, they may be thousands of years old. By not believing in death, this society is not limited by it. Upon completing a desired experience, one can disincarnate at will.
ASCENSION: Absolutely, and much easier and more common than on the surface. Ascension is the ultimate goal of temple training. Why have they stayed underground all this time? In part, because the Agartheans have learned the futility of war and violence and are patiently waiting for us to draw the same conclusion. They are such gentle folk that even our judgemental thoughts are physically harmful to them. Secrecy has been their protection. Until now, the truth of their existence has been veiled by Spirit. When can we visit? Our entrance to the sub-cities depends on the purity of our intentions and our capacity to think positively. A warm welcome from both worlds is the ideal and must be expressed by more than just the lightworking community. Currently, a few hundred brave subterraneans are working on the surface. In order to blend with the masses, they have undergone temporary cellular change so that, physically, they don't tower above the rest of us. They may be recognized by their gentle, sensitive nature and somewhat mysterious accent. We wish to introduce you to Princess Sharula Aurora Dux, the daughter of the Ra and Rana Mu of Telos.
Sharula has been officially appointed Ambassador to the surface world by the Agartha Network. She is 267 years old and looks 30. This article is courtesy of her firsthand experience. The purpose of her Ambassadorship is to prepare the way for the merging of the two worlds . . . to bring the ideas, the information and the new archetypes that will help unite our planet. Sharula has come to present a blueprint for peaceful change to those who will listen. The Agartheans have reached a point where they cannot progress spiritually unless this merger takes place. In essence, we are one planet ascending, not half a planet. It is God 's will that we take the next step together. The sooner we invite this unity, the sooner the magic will unfold. The Hierarchy has made the emergence of the subterranean cities a priority project. They are asking us to do our part in welcoming our brethren. The timing depends very much upon our receptivity and our graciousness. A successful merger is estimated within the next 10 to 20 years. Beloved, there is nothing to fear and everything to gain. The gifts the Agartheans bring are many. The secret of immortality is your birthright.
The freedom to live in abundance is also your birthright. You haven't lived until you've tasted a hydroponic tomato and had a little fun on the Holodeck.
totalrecall
03-03-2012, 07:48 PM
After these five huge chambers, in a point beyond half way, they should hang to walls and move carefully, because they "flew" (They were in zero gravity like an astronaut).
they reached the place where "everything flies", which is the center of the Earth's crust. (The middle of the mass, magnetically speaking, which is not the geometrical center of the Earth, but any point in the middle of the thick of the crust).
Sometimes the wind was so strong, and instead of using the walls to impulse themselves, they should do it to stop and avoid being hit. The gravity-less travel usually lasted from a few hours to 36 hours. Sometimes they should hang to the rocky edges to metal pieces that were in the rock there before they passed by, and wait two days until the wind died.
Very interesting. Love that. Hadn't heard of that story before.
The most interesting bit is the zero gravity (halfway?) through the Earth's crust. I never thought of it before but I remember reading in the beginning of the interwebs about a French experiment carried out in the 19th century to determine how far down in the Earth's crust the center of gravity was. They put something like two lines down a very deep mineshaft with the plumb weights at the end of the line in barrels of oil to make sure gravity was the only thing influencing the lines. Instead of seeing the two lines coming closer together, the lines were slightly further apart at the bottom of the mineshaft. They kept repeating this experiment with the same results. They determined that the center of gravity was 4000 miles above them! in the sky. They just ignored the findings as it didn't stop them building bridges and dams etc.
Found a link with the story here: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hollow/palmer.htm
(http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hollow/palmer.htm)
These two items of evidence are major pieces of the jigsaw of where we really are. It strongly suggests that NASA are lying whores. So much for weightlessness in space. We should be really heavy in "space".
This evidence corroborates the theory that we live on the inside of the earth's crust.
The third damning evidence is seeing the "moon" in front of clouds. This can only be explained by saying it is an optical illusion, i.e. doesn't explain it at all.
All these videos on this youtube channel make you go mmmmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/user/tootinas/videos
Our reality really isn't as it seems (not just in quantum theory, but literally).
I wish to make a conjecture:
An idea popped into my mind that if we live on the inside of the crust, then perhaps this matrix system is set up in concentric layers. Our crust is the outer layer of our world. The outside world also has an outer "crust" or layer (maybe a shimmering forcefield due to the changes in the law of physics for 5d) as well as the one they are on and so on. I thought this might explain "dimension density" as the space between these layers may get increasingly bigger and therefore less dense. This would be earth in its different densities.
I know someone posted something similar saying that the inner earth is 5d etc.
I suggest that "aliens" come from either inside the crust (4d...ish), from 5d outer earth, or from a myriad of other dimensions which interlock with the 3d inner earth one (like the interconnecting circles in the flower of life). They will come through portals or vortices either etherically or literal physical openings in the crust. Earth is probably host to many many spaces or dimensions which interlock with us... and there are stories of such too.
http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/Time_and_Dimension_Travel.htm
Even if we were to believe this theory it is still very difficult to accept as we have been brought up on the idea that we live on a tiny ball in the middle of a vastnesses which is difficult to fathom but travelling there is our birthright (startrek etc.) where there are lots of other intelligences also living on other tiny balls in the vastness visiting each other startrek like. This may all be a bunch of baloney... at least in its literal form.
There will definitely be other worlds, probably a ton of them but not in the format we once thought. It's a bit like Bohr's version of the atom with the electrons spinning around the nucleus... a load of old cobblers in reality, but difficult to expel from the visionary mind.
These other worlds may interlock in a 5d, 6d, 7d+ concentric circle reality, but the 3d ones are separate to each other, but not to the 4d, 5d, 6d, 7d etc. realities of the worlds if you see what I mean.
Why would nasa lie? They would lie to forment their NWO plan of a one world fascist government to convince us to come together against the alien threat from outer space. See Werner Von Braun: http://www.charlesfrith.com/2011/08/fake-alien-threat-what-werner-von-braun.html
It's too much of a coincidence that since the late forties they've been spewing out countless movies on aliens and outer space and invasions etc. Zippo before that time. Very suspicious.
Also their seeming adventures and planned adventures into outer space and the moon etc. since 1950. All very suspicious too.
Both the above "memes" mesh comletely with the nuts and bolts ufo "from another planet" meme too.
The plan for a one world government has been in the making since at the very least the 1600s in my opinion.
heartbeatsalute
03-03-2012, 08:22 PM
There are a lot of theories about Gravity. According to a recording by an inside agent of the Government, gravity is determined by the rays of the sun
permanently reaching us.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNpNMNbxXA
Leakage by Government Insider 2008
Thanks for the information. Great post!
The plan for a one world government has been in the making since at the very least the 1600s in my opinion.
Of course, they will use all the means available at hand to install the NWO, and they are succeeding.
EDIT: But the NWO is like getting a good job, one thing is getting it ,and the other most important thing is STAYING there. I don't think they will last.
mixedupjim
03-03-2012, 11:21 PM
Interesting ideas. However, there is the possibility that we have got the fundamental part of gravity wrong and that it is actually a repulsive force rather than attractive. This would explain how the source of gravity could be above us rather than below. It could also answer why gravity is less the further away from the center of the earth if mass is determined by the concentration of gravity.
To explain, if the source of gravity is a sphere round the earth then closer to the centre of that sphere I.e. the center of the earth, then the higher the concentration would be and thus the higher the experienced gravity. Conversely the closer to the gravity source the lower the concentration would be and the lower the experienced gravity.
As an example model think of a satellite tv dish where the radio signals represent gravity. The receiver is mounted at the point where the highest concentration of radio signals are. This would be the centre of the earth and also where the highest concentration of gravity is. Moving the receiver closer to the dish results in a poorer signal as the radio signals are less concentrated and so you would experience less gravity.
Just a thought anyway :)
heartbeatsalute
04-03-2012, 01:00 AM
Interesting ideas. However, there is the possibility that we have got the fundamental part of gravity wrong and that it is actually a repulsive force rather than attractive. This would explain how the source of gravity could be above us rather than below. It could also answer why gravity is less the further away from the center of the earth if mass is determined by the concentration of gravity.
To explain, if the source of gravity is a sphere round the earth then closer to the centre of that sphere I.e. the center of the earth, then the higher the concentration would be and thus the higher the experienced gravity. Conversely the closer to the gravity source the lower the concentration would be and the lower the experienced gravity.
As an example model think of a satellite tv dish where the radio signals represent gravity. The receiver is mounted at the point where the highest concentration of radio signals are. This would be the centre of the earth and also where the highest concentration of gravity is. Moving the receiver closer to the dish results in a poorer signal as the radio signals are less concentrated and so you would experience less gravity.
Just a thought anyway :)
Interesting post, mixedupjim,! You are not so mixed up after all .
People also talk about anti-gravity. It is pressumed this is how the pyramids were built, with anti-gravity materials they had, but nothing is certain.
There are no limits to what can be achieved.
mixedupjim
04-03-2012, 11:13 PM
I had a further thought on how my theory might also allow for a hollow earth. If the force of gravity is determined by the concentration of gravity particles or waves then mass could be due to the physical absorption of gravity due to density. The denser the material the heavier it is given a certain volume.
Now, this theory would then suggest that if you sat under a load of lead you would be subjected to less gravity as some of it would be absorbed by the lead above you. I'm not saying you would be weightless, just some fraction lighter. Keeping this in mind you could say that at some point below the earths crust enough gravity would have been absorbed by the material above that everything below it would not be subjected to gravity. This would leave the interior of the earth with zero gravity. This zero gravity would allow the centrifugal force of the earth spinning to create an artificial gravitational force but in a direction away from the centre of the earth allowing you to walk on the inside of the hollow earth.
I would also say that the only way to transition from the outside of the earth to the inner earth would be at either poles on which the earth spins as this would be the only place where again centrifugal forces due to the rotation of the earth would allow you travel down a vertical slope without falling.
heartbeatsalute
04-03-2012, 11:26 PM
I had a further thought on how my theory might also allow for a hollow earth. If the force of gravity is determined by the concentration of gravity particles or waves then mass could be due to the physical absorption of gravity due to density. The denser the material the heavier it is given a certain volume.
Now, this theory would then suggest that if you sat under a load of lead you would be subjected to less gravity as some of it would be absorbed by the lead above you. I'm not saying you would be weightless, just some fraction lighter. Keeping this in mind you could say that at some point below the earths crust enough gravity would have been absorbed by the material above that everything below it would not be subjected to gravity. This would leave the interior of the earth with zero gravity. This zero gravity would allow the centrifugal force of the earth spinning to create an artificial gravitational force but in a direction away from the centre of the earth allowing you to walk on the inside of the hollow earth.
I would also say that the only way to transition from the outside of the earth to the inner earth would be at either poles on which the earth spins as this would be the only place where again centrifugal forces due to the rotation of the earth would allow you travel down a vertical slope without falling.
mixedupjim, You're hired as my Hollow Earth Prime Minister. :):D
Would this(gravity) also apply to Underground Bases (D.U.M.B.S.) although it is not so further down as hollow earth?
heartbeatsalute
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
http://www.hollowearthnetwork.com/
THE HOLLOW EARTH NETWORK BY COLONEL BILLIE WOODWARD
mixedupjim
05-03-2012, 11:08 PM
mixedupjim, You're hired as my Hollow Earth Prime Minister. :):D
Would this(gravity) also apply to Underground Bases (D.U.M.B.S.) although it is not so further down as hollow earth?
It would indeed. Assuming you had solid mass above you. The more solid mass above you, then the more gravity would be absorbed before it reached you therefore the less gravity you would be effected by. If you just dug a big hole then then nothing would really happen, its the absorption from having tons of material above you. I wonder if there is any noticable difference in the Channel Tunnel?
Of course I have no idea how deep you would have to go to have any noticable effect (probably 10's of km), and of course this is a totally unfounded hypothesis. However, I don't think I'm breaking any laws of physics either.
heartbeatsalute
05-03-2012, 11:19 PM
Found this in internet although it doesn't convinece me... :D
Sounds like doom doom prophecy.
Gravity
The best scientific argument against that of a hollow Earth (or in fact any hollow planet) is gravity. Massive objects tend to clump together gravitationally, creating non-hollow spherical objects we call stars and planets. The solid sphere is the best way in which to minimize the gravitational potential energy of a physical object; having hollowness is therefore unfavorable in the energetic sense. In addition, ordinary matter is not strong enough to support a hollow shape of planetary size against the force of gravity.
Someone on the inside of a hollow Earth would not experience an outward pull and could not stand on the inner surface; rather, the theory of gravity implies that a person on the inside would be nearly weightless. This was first shown by Newton, whose shell theorem mathematically predicts a gravitational force (from the shell) of zero everywhere inside a spherically symmetric hollow shell of matter, regardless of the shell's thickness.
A tiny gravitational force would arise from the fact that the Earth does not have a perfectly symmetrical spherical shape, as well as forces from other bodies such as the Moon. The centrifugal force from the Earth's rotation would pull a person (on the inner surface) outwards if the person was traveling at the same velocity as the Earth's interior and was in contact with the ground on the interior, but even at the equator this is only 1/300 of ordinary Earth gravity.
The mass of the planet also indicates that the hollow Earth hypothesis is unfeasible. Should the Earth be largely hollow, its mass would be much lower and thus its gravity on the outer surface would be much lower than it currently is.
This reminds me of a fable I read called THE ISLANDERS by I dries Sha.
People were trying to build ships to get out of the Island were they lived , and they were constantly told it couldn't be done.
The Island's Encyclopedia defined ship this way:
"UNPLEASANT. Imaginary vehicle , where in the impostors and fraudulent ones have proclaimed that it is possible to "cross the waters"which is now scientifically established as being absurd.
No materials are known that are impermeable to water in the island, with which the "ship" can be built,
which would be to say that there would be another place of destiny besides the island. To preach
the "builing of ships" is a crime, under law XVII of the Penal Code, under section J, The protection of the gulible SHIP-mania-construction. THIS IS AN EXTREME FORM OF MENTAL ESCAPISM, A SYMPTHOM OF NOT BEING WELL ADAPTED . All citizens have the constitutional obligation of notifying the sanitary
authorities if they suspect the existence of this tragic condition in any individual." :D
heartbeatsalute
05-03-2012, 11:22 PM
It would indeed. Assuming you had solid mass above you. The more solid mass above you, then the more gravity would be absorbed before it reached you therefore the less gravity you would be effected by. If you just dug a big hole then then nothing would really happen, its the absorption from having tons of material above you. I wonder if there is any noticable difference in the Channel Tunnel?
Of course I have no idea how deep you would have to go to have any noticable effect (probably 10's of km), and of course this is a totally unfounded hypothesis. However, I don't think I'm breaking any laws of physics either.
Interesting Hypothesis mixedupjim! :cool:
mixedupjim
05-03-2012, 11:27 PM
Hmmm, that was one of my theory's problems about whether the structure would be strong enough to even exist asa hollow sphere and some how I thought the centrifugal force would have been greater than what is mentioned here.
However, the rest does fit in neatly if you take the experiment that showed the source of gravity to be above us as being correct.
heartbeatsalute
05-03-2012, 11:51 PM
:D:):eek::D
This reminds me of a fable I read called THE ISLANDERS by I dries Sha.
People were trying to build ships to get out of the Island were they lived , and they were constantly told it couldn't be done.
The Island's Encyclopedia defined ship this way:
"UNPLEASANT. Imaginary vehicle , where in the impostors and fraudulent ones have proclaimed that it is possible to "cross the waters"which is now scientifically established as being absurd.
No materials are known that are impermeable to water in the island, with which the "ship" can be built,
which would be to say that there would be another place of destiny besides the island. To preach
the "builing of ships" is a crime, under law XVII of the Penal Code, under section J, The protection of the gulible SHIP-mania-construction. THIS IS AN EXTREME FORM OF MENTAL ESCAPISM, A SYMPTHOM OF NOT BEING WELL ADAPTED . All citizens have the constitutional obligation of notifying the sanitary
authorities if they suspect the existence of this tragic condition in any individual." :D
heartbeatsalute
05-03-2012, 11:58 PM
Hmmm, that was one of my theory's problems about whether the structure would be strong enough to even exist asa hollow sphere and some how I thought the centrifugal force would have been greater than what is mentioned here.
However, the rest does fit in neatly if you take the experiment that showed the source of gravity to be above us as being correct.
somewhere here some of that is explained briefly.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_22.htm
mixedupjim
06-03-2012, 02:48 PM
somewhere here some of that is explained briefly.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_22.htm
That's pretty intersting.
Also I was looking at how we actually calculate the mass of the Earth. Einstein's calculation is based upon mass causing the gravitaional attraction, but if the source of gravity is above us then mass does not cause gravity and therefore it becomes impossible to calculate the mass.
Of course, the downside to this is that without some force of attraction between the sun and earth we'd go flying out in to the void of space!
heartbeatsalute
06-03-2012, 03:01 PM
That's pretty intersting.
Also I was looking at how we actually calculate the mass of the Earth. Einstein's calculation is based upon mass causing the gravitaional attraction, but if the source of gravity is above us then mass does not cause gravity and therefore it becomes impossible to calculate the mass.
Of course, the downside to this is that without some force of attraction between the sun and earth we'd go flying out in to the void of space!
Well there is something holding us well, it did not happen to Admiral Byrd and his entire crew when they flew to the poles, hollow Earth. So there is an explanation, we'll learn it in due time.
But this doesn't seem to be a problem now.
heartbeatsalute
07-03-2012, 09:19 PM
"I am fascinated by the possibility, we need to go forward in discovering new land." - President John Quincy Adams of USA
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgv6PbnZV4Lf75Mf3Ls9ccpMuJWoNun QnM3_baF1RCNHCPrGw0
In 1828, President John Quincy Adams (1767–1848) indicated that he would approve funding for the expedition. However, when Adams left office in 1829, his successor, Andrew Jackson (1767–1845), stifled a bill funding the proposed expedition.
ANDREW JACKSON is probably the only President of the United States who did not believe that the earth is round.
mixedupjim
07-03-2012, 09:22 PM
I really like the hollow earth theory (and the hollow moon theory as well for that matter). For some reason it just feels like that's how it should be.
heartbeatsalute
07-03-2012, 09:28 PM
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Places-of-Mystery-and-Power/Hollow-Earth.html
Halley's theory was based on the fact that the earth's magnetic field varies over time. Halley suggested that there were several magnetic fields, one of which emanated from a sphere within the earth. Halley eventually developed the idea that there were four concentric hollow spheres within the earth. He believed the inner earth was populated with life and had a luminous atmosphere. The aurora borealis, he concluded, was actually an emanation of radiant gases from within the earth that escaped through thin layers of crust at the poles.
heartbeatsalute
07-03-2012, 10:01 PM
http://r9.fodey.com/2200/721457efa67f4500a445eba3319f8037.0.jpg
observal
07-03-2012, 11:13 PM
Hello to all from a newbie but long time lurker.
Thumbs up to all the intelligent and open minded people commenting on the thread. espec. hagbard_celine. also graflock and many others sorrry to all others not mentioned as I've only studied a couple of many pages pages of the thread.
Thumbs down to all the closed minded, over schooled people on here, Not mentioning no names ombrex. I could comment but I would be repeating what many clever people have already stated like:
"In the days before the solid sphere (SS) model became accepted, the flat Earth (FE) model occupied exactly the same paradigm slot that the current SS model does. It was the one on all the maps, everyone accepted it is fact, it matched all the contemporary geological theories. What's more those who contradicted it; including those who upheld the SS model that is the conventional model today, like Columbus and Magellan, were ridiculed and shunned.
So if the FE model and the SS models occupy the same paradigm slot, so to speak, why should we accept the SS model as the final, ultimate truth?"
Hagbard_celine
sorry for my lack of BB code knowledge, tried to put symbols in but just showed up as mumbo-jumbo.
"Keep up the good work" To all you truthers. You know who you are.
heartbeatsalute
09-03-2012, 04:02 AM
Hello to all from a newbie but long time lurker.
Thumbs up to all the intelligent and open minded people commenting on the thread. espec. hagbard_celine. also graflock and many others sorrry to all others not mentioned as I've only studied a couple of many pages pages of the thread.
Thumbs down to all the closed minded, over schooled people on here, Not mentioning no names ombrex. I could comment but I would be repeating what many clever people have already stated like:
"In the days before the solid sphere (SS) model became accepted, the flat Earth (FE) model occupied exactly the same paradigm slot that the current SS model does. It was the one on all the maps, everyone accepted it is fact, it matched all the contemporary geological theories. What's more those who contradicted it; including those who upheld the SS model that is the conventional model today, like Columbus and Magellan, were ridiculed and shunned.
So if the FE model and the SS models occupy the same paradigm slot, so to speak, why should we accept the SS model as the final, ultimate truth?"
Hagbard_celine
sorry for my lack of BB code knowledge, tried to put symbols in but just showed up as mumbo-jumbo.
"Keep up the good work" To all you truthers. You know who you are.
Welcome to the forum observal!
Thank you for the good wishes to everyone who is open to the Hollow Earth Fact.
You are right ,we have to question all the spoon fed answers. Beware of the
lies given to all of us by THE SCREEN GOD, in this society of images we live in.
heartbeatsalute
10-03-2012, 07:26 AM
Byrd's First Antarctic Expedition 1928 - YouTube
BYRD'S FIRST ANTARTIC EXPEDITION 1928
the 9 rings
11-03-2012, 04:08 AM
The hollow earth theory has its points but in all aspect of the the whole picture is simply to overwelming.The theory is corrt of some basis because underground water systems and caveing structures but all together it could be done.
With t here technology dateing back to thousands of years would easily give them the upper hand of ground out the inner layers of the earth with no problem creating a mass temple effect there for with water and planting more oygen would produce life within the earth.
heartbeatsalute
11-03-2012, 06:07 AM
And then certainly, whatsoever you do -- your character, your behaviour -- is yours, authentically yours. It has your signature on it. Then you are not a carbon copy, you are original. The Zen people call it finding the original face.
--OSHO
Maybe if we achieve getting to Hollow Earth we would be "FINDING OUR ORIGINAL FACE". Although Admiral Byrd did it in the 20's and we are not to be informed. It will have its time of truth.
indolering
11-03-2012, 10:50 AM
And then certainly, whatsoever you do -- your character, your behaviour -- is yours, authentically yours. It has your signature on it. Then you are not a carbon copy, you are original. The Zen people call it finding the original face.
--OSHO
Maybe if we achieve getting to Hollow Earth we would be "FINDING OUR ORIGINAL FACE". Although Admiral Byrd did it in the 20's and we are not to be informed. It will have its time of truth.
I believe the guru was referring to meditation, not sailing away to Hollow Earth.
Are you getting your threads mixed up?:D
Just kidding. I followed an Indian guru for a time and though I learned some important things, I was bamboozled into believing he was more than a mere mortal. Live and learn.
I do believe there are saints among us...I think most of them are in hiding as we tend to kill them when we find one!:o:D
heartbeatsalute
11-03-2012, 07:22 PM
I just meant to use this phrase " recovering our original face", when there are no longer governments hiding information from us. Surely he was talking about
meditation.
Just for the record there are no immortal beings among us, no matter who they are.
Yes, anybody who goes against the vested interests of the System, is eliminated.
Back on topic, we have been told there will be an expedition to Hollow Earth,
since 2007, now it is supossed to be in 2012, I don't believe it anymore. We'll get our
informations from elsewhere.
The Pentagon must have a lot of information, they are not showing us.
And certainly they cannot say that Admiral Byrd(and crew) had no credibility, since he represented the US Government at the time. :D
heartbeatsalute
18-03-2012, 08:16 AM
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/064/f/f/Hollow_Earth_shirt_by_bombkamp.jpg
http://assets1.wordansassets.com/wordansfiles/images/2010/11/3/54128/54128_340.jpg?1288757335
There is a T-shirt with this on it ,also another one with Hollow Earth map on it,
would come in handy for those who eventually go, and don't wanna get lost. :D
believenothing
19-03-2012, 11:04 PM
I just meant to use this phrase " recovering our original face", when there are no longer governments hiding information from us. Surely he was talking about
meditation.
Just for the record there are no immortal beings among us, no matter who they are.
Yes, anybody who goes against the vested interests of the System, is eliminated.
Back on topic, we have been told there will be an expedition to Hollow Earth,
since 2007, now it is supossed to be in 2012, I don't believe it anymore. We'll get our
informations from elsewhere.
The Pentagon must have a lot of information, they are not showing us.
And certainly they cannot say that Admiral Byrd(and crew) had no credibility, since he represented the US Government at the time. :D
I like the hollow Earth theory. But as time goes on, I don't really believe it.
People go on North Pole expeditions. This woman from Dubai did it and placed a flag at the 90 degree latitude mark:
http://www.elhamalqasimi.com/journal/about/90l/
No hole, just ice. A lot of photos of the hole are obvious 'shops. And apparently planes are flying up there now.
If the Earth is hollow and there are polar entrances, they're either covered in ice, or the GPS is wrong. Or Elham Al-Qasimi is lying. Or planes don't go anywhere near the actual pole. The magnetism is obviously messed up at the poles.
The hollow Earth stories share common ground with theosophist beliefs. Also stories about Thule and Hyperborea. If the hollow Earth thing is true, then perhaps an expedition to the Northwestern passage and Baffin Bay is worth looking too. Nunavut, Greenland, and the surrounding ocean floor look remarkably close to Mercator's Hyperborea.
Even if the Earth isn't completely hollow, I'd like to know why scientists believe it has a molten core. Apparently the Catholic Church came up with that theory. Why the hell are we still trusting it? Because of volcanoes? I also personally think that the Earth used to be smaller based on observing ocean floor maps. Maybe it's not hollow but there really are underground cities or something.
heartbeatsalute
20-03-2012, 12:44 AM
I believe there is a strong possibility of Hollow Earth, as i have said in the thread.
I said I did not believe in he guys about the expedition, they never start it.
What keep´s me thinking iit is so, is how famous and many interviews was Admiral Byrd,and crewr., and his diary representing the Us government.
Why are people not allow to over fly the poles?
Why is it sweet water in the icebergs, whenthe sea is salty?
Why did the nazis take the Hollow Eearth so seriously to send 3 expeditions?
Why do Buddhist talk of this as a physical place, where the "king of the world" lives"?
There could be answers to all this, time will tell.-
OF course if any pictures or films are taken, you will not see it on the media,
since every image is carefully checked before coming out to the public.
You will only see people, walking on ice like this one and others, but never anything on hollow earth.
The truth is not in the media ,never has been.
OF course there are underground citie, D-U.M.B.S.(MAN MADE) (Deep Underground Military Bases)
but that is another story.
heartbeatsalute
24-03-2012, 05:00 AM
http://www.hollowearthnetwork.com/page/433309592
NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES
http://www.hollowearthnetwork.com/geneva/siteimage.img?color=9a8dc9&text=4f2824&accent=b4a0e5&compliment=efc2c2&navigation=0c1c63&heading=050505&title=f2e6e6&logo=3e2e24&link=83220d&picture.image.url=%2Ffiles%2F2177519%2Fuploaded%2F paradise.jpg&picture.image.crop.apply=false&width=720&height=275&cache=1332558720823
indolering
12-05-2012, 06:07 PM
.
Not sure if this was posted already...it's good though.:cool:
Fascinating journey through the Hollow Earth, with lots of scientific data to support the (conspiracy) theory that not only is the Earth hollow but contains life within it, much as Admiral Byrd found it.
Hollow Earth Revealed- Series - YouTube
no_world_order
07-06-2012, 01:17 PM
What keep´s me thinking iit is so, is how famous and many interviews was Admiral Byrd,and crewr., and his diary representing the Us government.
Why are people not allow to over fly the poles?
Why is it sweet water in the icebergs, whenthe sea is salty?
Why did the nazis take the Hollow Eearth so seriously to send 3 expeditions?
Why do Buddhist talk of this as a physical place, where the "king of the world" lives"?
I don´t know really what to think about the hollow-earth-theory, but I just wanted to add, that maybe the glaciers and icebergs accumulate their mass via rain and snow, which are "sweet" and are therefore not salty.
julien
17-06-2012, 06:29 PM
For those who are watching Game of thrones, have you noticed that the all intro shows an hollow earth ?
Game Of Thrones "Official" Show Open (HBO) - YouTube
phrased eyebrow
18-06-2012, 05:31 AM
Nice One, julien. I haven't been watching, and I wonder how few have noticed. But that's a great observation. Nice to see this thread's been "throne" a bone.
phrased eyebrow
27-06-2012, 09:41 PM
Does the prefix "Ap" mean farthest from?
So would "Apollo" mean Farthest from Hollow (earth?)
:p
Saw the thor film (asgard, agartha), and thought of "Valhalla" and then the rainbow bridge at the north pole in the Santa Claus cartoon: hollow veil = Valhalla (beyond the northern lights or rainbow bridge)
Yes, it's bs, but it's coincidental at any rate. :D
julien
28-06-2012, 11:49 PM
The first short movie was "the trip to the moon", but it is a french movie and the original title is "Le voyage dans la lune" , litterrally meaning "the trip INSIDE the moon" .
There is no doubt about it when you watch the movie, they go inside the moon.
Here you can watch the movie (around 10 min.) : A Trip to the Moon / Le Voyage dans la lune - 1902 - YouTube
lordzoma
29-06-2012, 10:52 AM
For those who are watching Game of thrones, have you noticed that the all intro shows an hollow earth ?
Game Of Thrones "Official" Show Open (HBO) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8)
the writer of the Game of Thrones series George Martin said that he will explain the cosmology of the world of Westeros, and why summer and winters last so long and are erratic in his last book, but he has already given the outline to the TV shows writers.
The lands of Westeros sit inside an "inverted globe". The inside shell of a HOLLOW PLANET. The land mass and oceans are NOT positioned on the exterior outside surface of the planet; the lands and seas are inside the globe. The sun is also inside the globe -- it is floating inside the planet near the center, without touching the interior surface. So the sun floats (slowly) around inside the globe -- while the globe/planet also spins and moves.
My question is - what's the comet?
soxism
08-07-2012, 11:06 AM
the writer of the Game of Thrones series George Martin said that he will explain the cosmology of the world of Westeros, and why summer and winters last so long and are erratic in his last book, but he has already given the outline to the TV shows writers.
The lands of Westeros sit inside an "inverted globe". The inside shell of a HOLLOW PLANET. The land mass and oceans are NOT positioned on the exterior outside surface of the planet; the lands and seas are inside the globe. The sun is also inside the globe -- it is floating inside the planet near the center, without touching the interior surface. So the sun floats (slowly) around inside the globe -- while the globe/planet also spins and moves.
My question is - what's the comet?
Interesting. It most certainly shows that the land mass is inverted in the intro, most noticeable when they show the wall..
heartbeatsalute
17-07-2012, 12:26 AM
I have no idea if what they say about Nazis and hollow earth is so, anyway here is an article:
http://www.skygaze.com/content/strange/HollowEarth.shtml
Nazis inside the Earth
Some hollow-earth believers exhibit not just fascination with but open sympathy for Nazi Germany. The chief figure in the Nazi hollow-earth movement is a Toronto man named Ernst Zundel, who writes under the name Christof Friedrich. Zundel operates a clearinghouse for Nazi materials and contends, as do other neo-Nazis, that the Holocaust never took place. In UFOs-Nazi Secret Weapons? (1976) he claimed that when World War II ended, Hitler and his Last Battalion boarded a submarine and escaped to Argentina; they then established a base for advanced saucer-shaped aircraft inside the hole at the South Pole. When the Allies learned what had happened, they dispatched Adm. Richard E. Byrd and a "scientific expedition--in fact an army-to attack the Nazi base, but they were no match for the superior Nazi weapons.
To Zundel the Nazis were "outer earth representatives of the 'inner earth'." This in his view accounted for their racial superiority. In 1978, with the publication of his Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions, Zundel solicited funds for his own polar expedition, for which he planned to charter an airliner with a large swastika painted on its fuselage. The swastika not only would bear witness to Zundel's ideological loyalties but also let the inner-earthers know that their visitors were friendly.
Around the same time, an expedition to the opposite pole, the northern one, was being planned by Tawani Shoush of Houston, Missouri. Shoush, a retired U.S. Marine Corps pilot and head of the International Society for a Complete Earth, wanted to fly a dirigible through the pole, where he and his companions would meet the "Nordic" inner-earthers and possibly join them permanently in their realm. "The hollow earth is better than our own world," he told Chicago Tribune columnist Bob Greene (October 31,1978). Though he denied harboring Nazi sympathies, his stationery prominently featured a swastika. Neither Zundel's nor Shoush's expedition ever got off the ground, literally or figuratively.
An unambiguously pro-Nazi work, Norma Cox's self-published Kingdoms Within Earth (1985), held that an international Zionist conspiracy has hidden the truth about the hollow earth as part of a plot to enslave the human race. Identical themes figure in literature published by Cosmic Awareness Communications of Olympia, Washington. The organization claims to have its information from spirit beings who channel through the group's representatives.
stoned philosopher
17-07-2012, 07:27 PM
heres a lecture by Jan Lamprecht about the topic. He pretty much proves the whole story by explaining how all the seismic data that has been collected has in fact been interpreted the wrong way, showing unexplainable anomalies. When you start with the idea of a hollow earth model with a homogenous shell density, the seismic data makes perfect sense and all the anomalies that seemed weird or even unexplainable with the old model become completely explainable. Pretty great lecture, to me it summed up what I consider the undeniaable scientific proof that our earth is indeed hollow.
Jan Lamprecht - The Hollow Earth - YouTube
indolering
17-07-2012, 08:41 PM
heres a lecture by Jan Lamprecht about the topic. He pretty much proves the whole story by explaining how all the seismic data that has been collected has in fact been interpreted the wrong way, showing unexplainable anomalies. When you start with the idea of a hollow earth model with a homogenous shell density, the seismic data makes perfect sense and all the anomalies that seemed weird or even unexplainable with the old model become completely explainable. Pretty great lecture, to me it summed up what I consider the undeniaable scientific proof that our earth is indeed hollow.
Jan Lamprecht - The Hollow Earth - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgzqAGEHpw)
This looks good - I'll have a watch tonight. Thanks for sharing.
Welcome to the forum.:cool:
stoned philosopher
18-07-2012, 09:47 PM
a great thing to do when you want to visualize the seismic wave movement inside the earth shell and the shadow zone after 103°, just draw a little scale model sketch. draw a circle with 8cm radius and smaller one with 6,4cm radius and the same center point. now you have the scale sketch of our earth (8000 miles diameter, shell 800 miles thick). now just start from a point anywhere of the shell, representing the epicentre of your earthquake. Now start drawing straight lines emerging from that point, let them bounce off the shell limit (entry angle = exit angle). draw a couple of these lines and watch where they hit the outer shell surface. most likely, you will get a zone of almost no lines hitting the surface at between around 103° and 144°, with the epicentre being 0°.
there, you just solved a problem that drove geologists mad for a pretty long time. :D
moving finger
19-07-2012, 01:56 PM
a great thing to do when you want to visualize the seismic wave movement inside the earth shell and the shadow zone after 103°, just draw a little scale model sketch. draw a circle with 8cm radius and smaller one with 6,4cm radius and the same center point. now you have the scale sketch of our earth (8000 miles diameter, shell 800 miles thick). now just start from a point anywhere of the shell, representing the epicentre of your earthquake. Now start drawing straight lines emerging from that point, let them bounce off the shell limit (entry angle = exit angle). draw a couple of these lines and watch where they hit the outer shell surface. most likely, you will get a zone of almost no lines hitting the surface at between around 103° and 144°, with the epicentre being 0°.
there, you just solved a problem that drove geologists mad for a pretty long time. :D
Not so much solved it as illustrated it, and the shadow zone defines the width of the core.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/glossary/?termID=170&alpha=S
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/animations/animation.php?flash_title=Shadow+Zone&flash_file=shadowzone&flash_width=220&flash_height=320
http://www.iris.edu/hq/files/programs/education_and_outreach/aotm/18/ShadowZone_BACKGROUND.pdf
stoned philosopher
19-07-2012, 08:21 PM
I dunno, worked well in my drawing... unfortunately I dont have a scanner so maybe I'll try to do the drawing digitally when I find some time.
stoned philosopher
19-07-2012, 08:50 PM
ah I just noticed that I forgot the maximum density belt. heres an excerpt from Lamprecht's book about that:
But what really interests us is the “
shadow zone
”.(In a nutshell, one can characterize the general behavior of seismic waves as follows:
1.
At a distance of between 7,000 miles to 10,000 miles from the epicenter of an earthquake, onefinds a “shadow zone”. In this shadow zone there are very few P waves.
2.
Beyond the 10,000 mile mark, there is a concentration of P waves and virtually no S waves. WhatS waves there are, are those which are thought to possibly have passed through the core. But this isopen to dispute and most scientists think there are no S waves in this region.)The
shadow zone
is now easily explained. The
shadow zone
is caused by the belt of maximumdensity in the Earth’s crust. Suppose we go down into the Earth at the epicenter. As we go deeper,the density gradually increases. It reaches a maximum at point M1. But from M1 downwards, thedensity decreases again until we strike the hollow cavity. Thus P waves which penetrate beyond thebelt of maximum density will find themselves refracted and bent and bent downwards – so that theythen travel and curve along the inside of the
Hollow Planet
. These waves will continue to travel likethis until they again manage to penetrate and escape through the belt of maximum density. The
shadow zone
is thus caused by the change in density in this
M-belt
which naturally separates the Pwaves. It also explains why there are some P waves in the shadow region. All that is happening isthat the waves are being bent around the Earth and being refocused on the other side.
Source link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/54421208/Hollow-Planets-Jan-Lamprecht
totalrecall
19-07-2012, 11:50 PM
I found this video very interesting. It is an official nasa video of the shuttle going up and the camera then coming down. It is the bit in between which is a real eye opener.
Now admittedly, this is not real evidence as I call it as nasa lies and often puts up digitized photos or cartoon like depictions etc. A camera can also depict a convex earth as easily as a concave one depending on the lens.. but... interesting to say the least. Fast forward to just under 3 minutes a have a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQvTgD2quQ&feature=relmfu
What don't we see here, and what do we see? We don't see any stars, planets, moon or any other heavenly body. The only object up here is the sun.
We also see a concave earth for nearly the whole length of the entire video.
Some still shots from the video:
http://s1061.photobucket.com/albums/t462/totalrecall1/
More great info from The Smoky God (http://www.ourhollowearth.com/SGContents.htm), a 19th century book (yet again) on a supposed true account of a Swedish explorer's trip to hollow earth. Lots and lots of pointers in this book. It's changed my opinion on the Garden of Eden which I thought we never left, but instead seems to be a physical place on the other side of the earth. We left that by coming to this side of the earth, the inner one.
You know, the underworld and the other side the earth explains so many anomalies and mysteries that it is impossible to be a truth seeker without this info. The plot thickens but I feel I'm not even starting yet when it comes to the real stuff of who and where we are.
I've also got (but not read) Etidorpha (http://archive.org/stream/etidorphaorende00lloygoog#page/n10/mode/2up) supposed ot be a first hand account of the underworld.
I seem to be getting the best links from other people writing comments on youtube and amazon then I am from the search engines these days.
Here is another good youtube vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4_XClQLsE&feature=related
heartbeatsalute
31-07-2012, 08:17 PM
http://indianinthemachine.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/182101_436796229696235_1093569426_n.jpg
abacus
31-07-2012, 08:50 PM
The first short movie was "the trip to the moon", but it is a french movie and the original title is "Le voyage dans la lune" , litterrally meaning "the trip INSIDE the moon" .
No - the phrase translates as 'A Trip to the Moon' - A Trip to the Moon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'.
http://indianinthemachine.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/182101_436796229696235_1093569426_n.jpg
i bet the hollow earth is a real paradise.We are the ones living in hell:(
heartbeatsalute
31-07-2012, 09:13 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-t74017.html
The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is the Greatest Expedition in the History of the World!
Become part of History. Donate. The film record made during this expedition may be the rarest, most awakening ever produced. More than 40 million enthusiasts are following this Voyage. If you ever considered participating in a major feature documentary, now is your chance. Help us write history by testing the ultimate myth. We strongly believe that the films made from this venture will more than pay for the expenses to conduct it. We still have a chance to make this Expedition happen.
A major Park Avenue New York film documentary company has stepped forward and pledged the funds for the Expedition! This $1.5 million pledge gets the ship charter in place by August of 2012. The Expedition launches in July of 2013 on the last available ship in the world for this excursion. The only thing left is the expense for the crew to get there and back, which is a mere $350,000. We can do this. 100 people get to go on the ship. Millions will travel with us by live streaming connection. Be a part of it!
The science is real. The story is more than 5,000 years old. The legend says that at a certain place above the Arctic Circle, there exists an oceanic depression or an entrance into the Earth. It's a place where the maritime legend claims sea level isn't level anymore.
The discovery that the earth is hollow would forever shatter our long-held beliefs about how planets are formed. More importantly, however, discovering life beneath the earth's crust could potentially provide us with new tools that would allow life on the surface to regain environmental balance, harmony, and possibly even peace. These prospects make the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition the greatest expedition in the history of the world.
If you feel the call to support this once-in-a-millennia expedition, you may review the business plan and proforma here.
The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is by far the most innovative and courageous exploration effort in modern times. We are unable to go to the Moon. We are decades away from manned exploration to Mars. This Expedition to the North Pole region is possible and within reach.
There has never been a more exciting nor appropriate time to visit this region of the Earth. The science is ready. The documentary film viewing public is ready. The mission is extraordinary enough to dominate documentary content for a strong feature release and bold enough to make history.
We want the public to participate. We want all the data to be freely released. The expedition and production need support from those who can see the vision.
With a proven global marketplace, as already evidenced by 17 million Japanese viewers, the Galileo Award, many millions of online hits, and low production cost, visionary investors may see solid financial return on their investment as well as films upon which they can be proud to see their names. More people may know about the Inner Earth than knew about Middle Earth prior to the films being released.
ImageImage
Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-t74017.html#ixzz22EW94vkk
indolering
01-08-2012, 12:38 AM
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-t74017.html
The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is the Greatest Expedition in the History of the World!
Become part of History. Donate. The film record made during this expedition may be the rarest, most awakening ever produced. More than 40 million enthusiasts are following this Voyage. If you ever considered participating in a major feature documentary, now is your chance. Help us write history by testing the ultimate myth. We strongly believe that the films made from this venture will more than pay for the expenses to conduct it. We still have a chance to make this Expedition happen.
A major Park Avenue New York film documentary company has stepped forward and pledged the funds for the Expedition! This $1.5 million pledge gets the ship charter in place by August of 2012. The Expedition launches in July of 2013 on the last available ship in the world for this excursion. The only thing left is the expense for the crew to get there and back, which is a mere $350,000. We can do this. 100 people get to go on the ship. Millions will travel with us by live streaming connection. Be a part of it!
The science is real. The story is more than 5,000 years old. The legend says that at a certain place above the Arctic Circle, there exists an oceanic depression or an entrance into the Earth. It's a place where the maritime legend claims sea level isn't level anymore.
The discovery that the earth is hollow would forever shatter our long-held beliefs about how planets are formed. More importantly, however, discovering life beneath the earth's crust could potentially provide us with new tools that would allow life on the surface to regain environmental balance, harmony, and possibly even peace. These prospects make the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition the greatest expedition in the history of the world.
If you feel the call to support this once-in-a-millennia expedition, you may review the business plan and proforma here.
The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is by far the most innovative and courageous exploration effort in modern times. We are unable to go to the Moon. We are decades away from manned exploration to Mars. This Expedition to the North Pole region is possible and within reach.
There has never been a more exciting nor appropriate time to visit this region of the Earth. The science is ready. The documentary film viewing public is ready. The mission is extraordinary enough to dominate documentary content for a strong feature release and bold enough to make history.
We want the public to participate. We want all the data to be freely released. The expedition and production need support from those who can see the vision.
With a proven global marketplace, as already evidenced by 17 million Japanese viewers, the Galileo Award, many millions of online hits, and low production cost, visionary investors may see solid financial return on their investment as well as films upon which they can be proud to see their names. More people may know about the Inner Earth than knew about Middle Earth prior to the films being released.
ImageImage
Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-t74017.html#ixzz22EW94vkk
I'll drink to that! I'll donate to that too. What a terrific way to jump-start the transformation.
relentless
01-08-2012, 12:51 AM
Is this expedition taking place in 2012 or 2013?
heartbeatsalute
01-08-2012, 01:30 AM
Is this expedition taking place in 2012 or 2013?
According to what they have said it will be in August 2012. We'll see, hope they take off.
They have been anouncing the same since 2007.
I hope they do it this once.
relentless
01-08-2012, 01:35 AM
What a trip, would be great to be onboard, or at least follow on a live feed. Will they have satellite access from the center of the earth? :D
phrased eyebrow
01-08-2012, 03:50 AM
What a trip, would be great to be onboard, or at least follow on a live feed. Will they have satellite access from the center of the earth? :D
I'm sure if they will, then it will just "vanish" like so many of the Mars spacecraft from the 1990s :D
creativespirit
02-08-2012, 06:05 AM
If there is a hole at the north it must be best kept secret ever, you don't really hide something like that without involving a few governments, entire aircraft, space missions, military and science. I wouldn't be surprised if there are tens of thousands people keeping this secret right know across the globe. How else it could be possible to keep it hidden that long?
I'm excited about that trip, but I don't really think they will be allowed to go even near it.
heartbeatsalute
02-08-2012, 06:24 PM
The same way there are precious metals on the surface of the earth, I wonder if there are any inside the Hollow Earth.
Could it be one of the many reasons why Hollow Earth is kept so secret perhaps?
kblood
03-08-2012, 07:56 AM
If there is a hole at the north it must be best kept secret ever, you don't really hide something like that without involving a few governments, entire aircraft, space missions, military and science. I wouldn't be surprised if there are tens of thousands people keeping this secret right know across the globe. How else it could be possible to keep it hidden that long?
I'm excited about that trip, but I don't really think they will be allowed to go even near it.
I agree, it has to be like that.
On a similar note, anyone seen Iron Sky? It takes this topic basically and just makes the best gags of gags about it all.
julien
15-08-2012, 07:54 PM
No - the phrase translates as 'A Trip to the Moon' - A Trip to the Moon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Trip_to_the_Moon)'.
:eek: I'm sorry but that is not true, the film is french and I'm french, I can tell you that when you translate "Le voyage DANS la lune" , it means "The trip IN the moon" and in this case more precisely "INSIDE" , whatever they choosed for the english name, it is not a good translation.
Just check in a translator for the word "DANS" in french, translate it into english and let me know if you can find anywhere that "DANS" means "TO", you won't be able to find it, because DANS means IN, INTO or INSIDE. :)
Anyway, ask to anyone who is french, he will tell you the same thing as me.
But here is a clue ! why on earth would you choose a title in english that perverted the meaning of it compare to the original title in french ? :D
ALSO, A VERY IMPORTANT THING, when you post a message, make sure you know actually watched the movie you are talking about , because in that movie that should be called "A Trip IN the moon" , THEY ACTUALLY GO "INSIDE" THE MOON !!! And that's maybe why this movie has been titled as well :-)
julien
15-08-2012, 08:11 PM
I agree, it has to be like that.
On a similar note, anyone seen Iron Sky? It takes this topic basically and just makes the best gags of gags about it all.
Notice that there is also a movie about NAZI inside the earth, very recent and right here : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130142/
1ndividua1
16-08-2012, 01:39 PM
David Icke states in THE BIGGEST SECRET, that many years ago many people seriously believed ,AND OTHERS STILL DO, that the earth IS Hollow(also see in youtube THE HOLLOW EARTH.) The Nazis, the writer Jules Verne(iniate of of the secret society with Connections to order of teh godlen dawn and others. it is said the earth has entrances at the poles saying a base was established in the Antartica, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who flew there with his entire USA crew,
David icke recommends reading the book THE HOLLOW EARTH by Dr. Raymond
Bernard as a summary of the evidence. It is said that the outer crust goes down 800 miles and beyond that the planet is hollow.
Also the unanswered question : why are iceberg made of fresh water , when the only water available at the poles is sea water?There rare fresh
water rivers out of the inner Earth forming the fresh water icebergs.
Ray Palmer believed that UFOs came not from space ,they came from the inner earth(hollow earth).
There is an inner sun , clouds, animals, which in the winter migrate to the north, to where it's warmer.
so there are people living inside this same earth, in the hollow earth,
miles under our feet ,and we are not supposed to know about it,
wouldn't believe it either, but Admiral Byrd and witnesses were there to see it. Reality is stranger than fiction.
The Roman writer, GAIUS PLINIUS SECUNDUS, known as Pliny,
refers to underground peoples who had fled from Atlantis ,
also legends of the Inner Earth dwellers called the Troglodytes who, Pliny said, have hidden in their tunnels a great ancient treasure.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_REkgXByDyuU/S6oedAOQteI/AAAAAAAAGlI/KwD2f-zC9eU/s400/impliedfacepalm-ba.jpg
heartbeatsalute
22-08-2012, 12:30 AM
I recently heard Steward Swerdlow's view on this topic, and what he's saying about it actually made a lot of sense to me.
It has to do with formation of planets, on how they spin and form a sphere form etc. I can't remember what he says exactly..
I think he talks about it in this interview: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-4229871168114736074&ei=9H4QSt1Dy_f4BvHeieUF&q=steward+swerdlow&hl=nl&client=firefox-a
Interesting. I'll look into it ,thanks.
heartbeatsalute
25-08-2012, 04:39 AM
Here is something intereesting:
http://www.librarising.com/conspiracy/newgermany.html
indolering
11-10-2012, 02:23 AM
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Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary - YouTube
For the first time, the legendary 2006 Russian documentary 'Third Reich - Operation UFO' in its entirety, fully translated into English and available for free viewing. Many thanks to Irina Du Toit for the translation and the saucer people for the subtitles.
The film explores the historical mysteries and rumours of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation Highjump' expedition and the occult origins of Third Reich anti-gravity engines, flying discs and ancient Atlantean technologies viewed through the lens of perhaps the three most mysterious twentieth century German organisations of all: the 'Thule Society, 'Vril Society' and the 'Ahnenerbe'
One of the core themes of the film is the alleged existence of 'Base 211', the legendary underground Nazi base in the Antarctica. Drawing upon the pre-war Nazi interest in Antarctica and the creation of 'New Swabia'; the testimony of German U-Boat submarine commanders and the alleged disappearance of thousands of Nazi scientists and engineers at the end of the war, personnel that cannot be accounted for by the Vatican and Odessa 'rat lines' or American 'Operation Paperclip' activities. In addition, the film analyses the actual geo-physical possibilities of an underground base in Antarctica.
The other core theme is the alleged existence of a Nazi flying saucer program and the many evidential strands that this area generates. From the supposed channeling of extraterrestrial engineering schematics by members of the German occult group 'Thule Society' in the early part of the twentieth century to the 'implosion engine' of Viktor Schauberger and its possible appropriation by the Third Reich.
Bringing us to the the latter part of the twentieth century the documentary illustrates the many sightings of unknown crafts around the Antartic region and the theoretical basis for polar wormholes as entrance and exit points for visiting extraterrestrial spaceships and the possible involvement of HAARP, as well as asking why nearly all American Antarctic bases seem to be populated by agents of the National Security Agency and CIA.
Like the study of any phenomena and/or events that exist at the edges of consensus reality, occupy imaginal realms and are subject to historical revisionism; the interface of myth and reality is a shifting mosaic of fact, speculation, disinformation and fantasy, or to use the phrase of head CIA counter-intelligence spook, James Jesus Angleton, we have entered a "wilderness of mirrors".
Certainly there are elements in the documentary that give cause for concern such as the alleged "Special Bureau 13", the Nazi secret flying saucer research group and its similarity to the top secret government agency in the early eighties role playing game "Bureau 13: Stalking the Night Fantastic " (though equally the RPG title could be an insider homage to this secret Nazi organisation). Likewise, there is the lack of information on the existence of the US Navy destroyer 'Murdoch' in the testimony recounted by pilot 'John Sireson' in his description of the flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's fleet (testimony taken from an interview by the late pioneering American researcher Leonard Stringfield).
Equally, the testimony of Admiral Byrd that flying saucers attacked the 'Operation Highjump' fleet is of historical record as is his testimony to Congress of enemies that have the ability to fly "pole to pole". Likewise, the creation of 'New Swabia' is as much a historical fact as the 'impossible' existence of the 'Piri Reis' map.
What sets this documentary apart from most others of its kind is the inclusion of high ranking Russian scientists and military personnel and their testimony should not be discounted.
As the great American anti-fascist researcher Dave Emory says of many elements of deep politics: "its food for thought and grounds for further research".
Exopolitics UK and 'The Saucer People' are looking for other non-English UFO/alien related videos to help translate and subtitle, we have dozens of Russian documentaries waiting to be translated into English. If you speak Russian and are interested in translating any of this material please get in touch.
Likewise, if your country of origin has produced any UFO/alien documentaries and are interested in creating English translations to be subtitled please contact us.
It took a lot of hard work to make the translation of this documentary into English and create the subtitles and we would like to dedicate our work to the late American researcher Wendelle Stevens who is quoted in the film, In our opinion, Wendelle, who sadly died in 2011 was one of the few genuine professional researchers in the UFO community who like Linda Moulton Howe, actually went and spoke to the subjects and witnesses and researched cases first-hand.
zhiba
11-10-2012, 02:29 AM
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Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw)
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Thanks for posting, look forward to watching.
How authentic is the translation and information presented though?
indolering
11-10-2012, 03:44 AM
Thanks for posting, look forward to watching.
How authentic is the translation and information presented though?
I can't say for certain, but I tend to believe the testimony of the Russians, who seem to me less disposed to fabrication than say, Americans. Judging by the detail and apparent indifference to convention, the video on the whole seems authentic.
zhiba
11-10-2012, 09:18 AM
I can't say for certain, but I tend to believe the testimony of the Russians, who seem to me less disposed to fabrication than say, Americans. Judging by the detail and apparent indifference to convention, the video on the whole seems authentic.
Fair enough :)
i will have a watch, and see what it presents, thanks again for posting ;)
heartbeatsalute
11-10-2012, 09:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7E68cIZ3Q#!
Seems to be a satellite video of the opening at the Pole
heartbeatsalute
11-10-2012, 11:54 PM
http://mysterioushollowearth.webs.com/phaedoparas600624.htm
Socrates talks on Hollow Earth
http://mysterioushollowearth.webs.com/plato.jpg
An account of Socrates final conversation
Phædo
Paras. 600–624
600-"What do you mean, Socrates?" said Simmias. "I have myself heard many descriptions of the earth, but I do not know in what you are putting your faith, and I should like to know."
601-"Well, Simmias," replied Socrates, "the recital of a tale does not, I think, require the art of Glaucus; and I know not that the art of Glaucus could prove the truth of my tale, which I myself should never be able to prove, and even if I could, I fear, Simmias, that my life would come to an end before the argument was completed. I may describe to you, however, the form and regions of the earth according to my conception of them."
602-"That," said Simmias, "will be enough."
603-"Well, then," he said, "my conviction is that the earth is a round body in the center of the heavens, and therefore has no need of air or any similar force as a support, but is kept there and hindered from falling or inclining any way by the equability of the surrounding heaven and by her own equipoise. For that which, being in equipoise, is in the center of that which is equably diffused, will not incline any way in any degree, but will always remain in the same state and not deviate. And this is my first notion."
604-"Which is surely a correct one," said Simmias.
605-"Also I believe that the earth is very vast, and that we who dwell in the region extending from the river Phasis to the Pillars of Heracles, along the borders of the sea, are just like ants or frogs about a marsh, and inhabit a small portion only, and that many others dwell in many like places. For I should say that in all parts of the earth there are hollows of various forms and sizes, into which the water and the mist and the air collect; and that the true earth is pure and in the pure heaven, in which also are the stars—that is the heaven which is commonly spoken of as the ether, of which this is but the sediment collecting in the hollows of the earth.
But we who live in these hollows are deceived into the notion that we are dwelling above on the surface of the earth; which is just as if a creature who was at the bottom of the sea were to fancy that he was on the surface of the water, and that the sea was the heaven through which he saw the sun and the other stars—he having never come to the surface by reason of his feebleness and sluggishness, and having never lifted up his head and seen, nor ever heard from one who had seen, this region which is so much purer and fairer than his own.
Now this is exactly our case: for we are dwelling in a hollow of the earth, and fancy that we are on the surface; and the air we call the heaven, and in this we imagine that the stars move. But this is also owing to our feebleness and sluggishness, which prevent our reaching the surface of the air: for if any man could arrive at the exterior limit, or take the wings of a bird and fly upward, like a fish who puts his head out and sees this world, he would see a world beyond; and, if the nature of man could sustain the sight, he would acknowledge that this was the place of the true heaven and the true light and the true stars.
For this earth, and the stones, and the entire region which surrounds us are spoilt and corroded, like the things in the sea which are corroded by the brine; for in the sea too there is hardly any noble or perfect growth, but clefts only, and sand, and an endless slough of mud: and even the shore is not to be compared to the fairer sights of this world. And greater far is the superiority of the other. Now of that upper earth which is under the heaven, I can tell you a charming tale, Simmias, which is well worth hearing."
606-"And we, Socrates," replied Simmias, "shall be charmed to listen."
607-"The tale, my friend," he said, "is as follows: In the first place, the earth, when looked at from above, is like one of those balls which have leather coverings in twelve pieces, and is of divers colors, of which the colors which painters use on earth are only a sample. But there the whole earth is made up of them, and they are brighter far and clearer than ours; there is a purple of wonderful luster, also the radiance of gold, and the white which is in the earth is whiter than any chalk or snow. Of these and other colors the earth is made up, and they are more in number and fairer than the eye of man has ever seen; and the very hollows (of which I was speaking) filled with air and water are seen like light flashing amid the other colors, and have a color of their own, which gives a sort of unity to the variety of earth. And in this fair region everything that grows—trees, and flowers, and fruits—is in a like degree fairer than any here; and there are hills, and stones in them in a like degree smoother, and more transparent, and fairer in color than our highly valued emeralds and sardonyxes and jaspers, and other gems, which are but minute fragments of them: for there all the stones are like our precious stones, and fairer still. The reason of this is that they are pure, and not, like our precious stones, infected or corroded by the corrupt briny elements which coagulate among us, and which breed foulness and disease both in earth and stones, as well as in animals and plants.
They are the jewels of the upper earth, which also shines with gold and silver and the like, and they are visible to sight and large and abundant and found in every region of the earth, and blessed is he who sees them. And upon the earth are animals and men, some in a middle region, others dwelling about the air as we dwell about the sea; others in islands which the air flows round, near the continent: and in a word, the air is used by them as the water and the sea are by us, and the ether is to them what the air to us. Moreover, the temperament of their seasons is such that they have no disease, and live much longer than we do, and have sight and hearing and smell, and all the other senses, in far greater perfection, in the same degree that air is purer than water or the ether than air. Also they have temples and sacred places in which the gods really dwell, and they hear their voices and receive their answers, and are conscious of them and hold converse with them, and they see the sun, moon, and stars as they really are, and their other blessedness is of a piece with this."
608-"Such is the nature of the whole earth, and of the things which are around the earth; and there are divers regions in the hollows on the face of the globe everywhere, some of them deeper and also wider than that which we inhabit, others deeper and with a narrower opening than ours, and some are shallower and wider; all have numerous perforations, and passages broad and narrow in the interior of the earth, connecting them with one another; and there flows into and out of them, as into basins, a vast tide of water, and huge subterranean streams of perennial rivers, and springs hot and cold, and a great fire, and great rivers of fire, and streams of liquid mud, thin or thick (like the rivers of mud in Sicily, and the lava-streams which follow them), and the regions about which they happen to flow are filled up with them. And there is a sort of swing in the interior of the earth which moves all this up and down. Now the swing is in this wise: There is a chasm which is the vastest of them all, and pierces right through the whole earth; this is that which Homer describes in the words.
“Far off, where is the inmost depth beneath the earth”;
and which he in other places, and many other poets, have called Tartarus. And the swing is caused by the streams flowing into and out of this chasm, and they each have the nature of the soil through which they flow. And the reason why the streams are always flowing in and out is that the watery element has no bed or bottom, and is surging and swinging up and down, and the surrounding wind and air do the same; they follow the water up and down, hither and thither, over the earth—just as in respiring the air is always in process of inhalation and exhalation; and the wind swinging with the water in and out produces fearful and irresistible blasts: when the waters retire with a rush into the lower parts of the earth, as they are called, they flow through the earth into those regions, and fill them up as with the alternate motion of a pump, and then when they leave those regions and rush back hither, they again fill the hollows here, and when these are filled, flow through subterranean channels and find their way to their several places, forming seas, and lakes and rivers, and springs. Thence they again enter the earth, some of them making a long circuit into many lands, others going to few places and those not distant, and again fall into Tartarus, some at a point a good deal lower than that at which they rose, and others not much lower, but all in some degree lower than the point of issue. And some burst forth again on the opposite side, and some on the same side, and some wind round the earth with one or many folds, like the coils of a serpent, and descend as far as they can, but always return and fall into the lake. The rivers on either side can descend only to the center and no further, for to the rivers on both sides the opposite side is a precipice."
609-"Now these rivers are many, and mighty, and diverse, and there are four principal ones, of which the greatest and outermost is that called Oceanus, which flows round the earth in a circle; and in the opposite direction flows Acheron, which passes under the earth through desert places, into the Acherusian Lake: this is the lake to the shores of which the souls of the many go when they are dead, and after waiting an appointed time, which is to some a longer and to some a shorter time, they are sent back again to be born as animals. The third river rises between the two, and near the place of rising pours into a vast region of fire, and forms a lake larger than the Mediterranean Sea, boiling with water and mud; and proceeding muddy and turbid, and winding about the earth, comes, among other places, to the extremities of the Acherusian Lake, but mingles not with the waters of the lake, and after making many coils about the earth plunges into Tartarus at a deeper level. This is that Pyriphlegethon, as the stream is called, which throws up jets of fire in all sorts of places. The fourth river goes out on the opposite side, and falls first of all into a wild and savage region, which is all of a dark-blue color, like lapis lazuli; and this is that river which is called the Stygian River, and falls into and forms the Lake Styx, and after falling into the lake and receiving strange powers in the waters, passes under the earth, winding round in the opposite direction to Pyriphlegethon, and meeting in the Acherusian Lake from the opposite side. And the water of this river too mingles with no other, but flows round in a circle and falls into Tartarus over against Pyriphlegethon, and the name of this river, as the poet says, is Cocytus."
610-"Such is the name of the other world; and when the dead arrive at the place to which the genius of each severally conveys them, first of all they have sentence passed upon them, as they have lived well and piously or not. And those who appear to have lived neither well nor ill, go to the river Acheron, and mount such conveyances as they can get, and are carried in them to the lake, and there they dwell and are purified of their evil deeds, and suffer the penalty of the wrongs which they have done to others, and are absolved, and receive the rewards of their good deeds according to their deserts. But those who appear to be incurable by reason of the greatness of their crimes—who have committed many and terrible deeds of sacrilege, murders foul and violent, or the like—such are hurled into Tartarus, which is their suitable destiny, and they never come out. Those again who have committed crimes, which, although great, are not unpardonable—who in a moment of anger, for example, have done violence to a father or mother, and have repented for the remainder of their lives, or who have taken the life of another under like extenuating circumstances—these are plunged into Tartarus, the pains of which they are compelled to undergo for a year, but at the end of the year the wave casts them forth—mere homicides by way of Cocytus, parricides and matricides by Pyriphlegethon—and they are borne to the Acherusian Lake, and there they lift up their voices and call upon the victims whom they have slain or wronged, to have pity on them, and to receive them, and to let them come out of the river into the lake. And if they prevail, then they come forth and cease from their troubles; but if not, they are carried back again into Tartarus and from thence into the rivers unceasingly, until they obtain mercy from those whom they have wronged: for that is the sentence inflicted upon them by their judges. Those also who are remarkable for having led holy lives are released from this earthly prison, and go to their pure home which is above, and dwell in the purer earth; and those who have duly purified themselves with philosophy live henceforth altogether without the body, in mansions fairer far than these, which may not be described, and of which the time would fail me to tell."
611-"Wherefore, Simmias, seeing all these things, what ought not we to do in order to obtain virtue and wisdom in this life? Fair is the prize, and the hope great."
612-"I do not mean to affirm that the description which I have given of the soul and her mansions is exactly true—a man of sense ought hardly to say that. But I do say that, inasmuch as the soul is shown to be immortal, he may venture to think not improperly or unworthily, that something of the kind is true. The venture is a glorious one, and he ought to comfort himself with words like these, which is the reason why I lengthen out the tale. Wherefore, I say, let a man be of good cheer about his soul, who hast cast away the pleasures and ornaments of the body as alien to him, and rather hurtful in their effects, and has followed after the pleasures of knowledge in this life; who has adorned the soul in her own proper jewels, which are temperance, and justice, and courage, and nobility, and truth—in these arrayed she is ready to go on her journey to the world below, when her time comes. You, Simmias and Cebes, and all other men, will depart at some time or other. Me already, as the tragic poet would say, the voice of fate calls. Soon I must drink the poison; and I think that I had better repair to the bath first, in order that the women may not have the trouble of washing my body after I am dead."
613-When he had done speaking, Crito said: "And have you any commands for us, Socrates—anything to say about your children, or any other matter in which we can serve you?"
614-"Nothing particular," he said: "only, as I have always told you, I would have you to look to yourselves; that is a service which you may always be doing to me and mine as well as to yourselves. And you need not make professions; for if you take no thought for yourselves, and walk not according to the precepts which I have given you, not now for the first time, the warmth of your professions will be of no avail."
615-"We will do our best," said Crito. "But in what way would you have us bury you?"
616-"In any way that you like; only you must get hold of me, and take care that I do not walk away from you." Then he turned to us, and added with a smile: "I cannot make Crito believe that I am the same Socrates who have been talking and conducting the argument; he fancies that I am the other Socrates whom he will soon see, a dead body"—and he asks, "How shall he bury me?" "And though I have spoken many words in the endeavor to show that when I have drunk the poison I shall leave you and go to the joys of the blessed—these words of mine, with which I comforted you and myself, have had, I perceive, no effect upon Crito. And therefore I want you to be surety for me now, as he was surety for me at the trial: but let the promise be of another sort; for he was my surety to the judges that I would remain, but you must be my surety to him that I shall not remain, but go away and depart; and then he will suffer less at my death, and not be grieved when he sees my body being burned or buried. I would not have him sorrow at my hard lot, or say at the burial, Thus we lay out Socrates, or, Thus we follow him to the grave or bury him; for false words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil. Be of good cheer, then, my dear Crito, and say that you are burying my body only, and do with that as is usual, and as you think best."
617-When he had spoken these words, he arose and went into the bath chamber with Crito, who bade us wait; and we waited, talking and thinking of the subject of discourse, and also of the greatness of our sorrow; he was like a father of whom we were being bereaved, and we were about to pass the rest of our lives as orphans. When he had taken the bath his children were brought to him—(he had two young sons and an elder one); and the women of his family also came, and he talked to them and gave them a few directions in the presence of Crito; and he then dismissed them and returned to us.
618-Now the hour of sunset was near, for a good deal of time had passed while he was within. When he came out, he sat down with us again after his bath, but not much was said. Soon the jailer, who was the servant of the Eleven, entered and stood by him, saying: "To you, Socrates, whom I know to be the noblest and gentlest and best of all who ever came to this place, I will not impute the angry feelings of other men, who rage and swear at me when, in obedience to the authorities, I bid them drink the poison—indeed I am sure that you will not be angry with me; for others, as you are aware, and not I, are the guilty cause. And so fare you well, and try to bear lightly what must needs be; you know my errand. Then bursting into tears he turned away and went out."
619-Socrates looked at him and said: "I return your good wishes, and will do as you bid." Then, turning to us, he said, "How charming the man is: since I have been in prison he has always been coming to see me, and at times he would talk to me, and was as good as could be to me, and now see how generously he sorrows for me. But we must do as he says, Crito; let the cup be brought, if the poison is prepared: if not, let the attendant prepare some."
620-"Yet," said Crito, "the sun is still upon the hilltops, and many a one has taken the draught late," and after the announcement has been made to him, he has eaten and drunk, and indulged in sensual delights; do not hasten, then, there is still time.
621-Socrates said: "Yes, Crito, and they of whom you speak are right in doing thus, for they think that they will gain by the delay; but I am right in not doing thus, for I do not think that I should gain anything by drinking the poison a little later; I should be sparing and saving a life which is already gone: I could only laugh at myself for this. Please then to do as I say, and not refuse me."
622-Crito, when he heard this, made a sign to the servant, and the servant went in, and remained for some time, and then returned with the jailer carrying a cup of poison. Socrates said: "You, my good friend, who are experienced in these matters, shall give me directions how I am to proceed." The man answered: "You have only to walk about until your legs are heavy, and then to lie down, and the poison will act." At the same time he handed the cup to Socrates, who in the easiest and gentlest manner, without the least fear or change of color or feature, looking at the man with all his eyes, Echecrates, as his manner was, took the cup and said: "What do you say about making a libation out of this cup to any god? May I, or not?" The man answered: "We only prepare, Socrates, just so much as we deem enough.
"I understand," he said: "yet I may and must pray to the gods to prosper my journey from this to that other world—may this, then, which is my prayer, be granted to me." Then holding the cup to his lips, quite readily and cheerfully he drank off the poison. And hitherto most of us had been able to control our sorrow; but now when we saw him drinking, and saw too that he had finished the draught, we could no longer forbear, and in spite of myself my own tears were flowing fast; so that I covered my face and wept over myself, for certainly I was not weeping over him, but at the thought of my own calamity in having lost such a companion. Nor was I the first, for Crito, when he found himself unable to restrain his tears, had got up and moved away, and I followed; and at that moment, Apollodorus, who had been weeping all the time, broke out in a loud cry which made cowards of us all. Socrates alone retained his calmness: "What is this strange outcry?" he said. "I sent away the women mainly in order that they might not offend in this way, for I have heard that a man should die in peace. Be quiet, then, and have patience."
623- When we heard that, we were ashamed, and refrained our tears; and he walked about until, as he said, his legs began to fail, and then he lay on his back, according to the directions, and the man who gave him the poison now and then looked at his feet and legs; and after a while he pressed his foot hard and asked him if he could feel; and he said, "no;" and then his leg, and so upwards and upwards, and showed us that he was cold and stiff. And he felt them himself, and said: "When the poison reaches the heart, that will be the end." He was beginning to grow cold about the groin, when he uncovered his face, for he had covered himself up, and said (they were his last words)—he said: "Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?" "The debt shall be paid," said Crito; "is there anything else?" There was no answer to this question; but in a minute or two a movement was heard, and the attendants uncovered him; his eyes were set, and Crito closed his eyes and mouth.
624-Such was the end, Echecrates, of our friend, whom I may truly call the wisest, and justest, and best of all the men whom I have ever known.
heartbeatsalute
14-10-2012, 06:47 PM
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Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw)
For the first time, the legendary 2006 Russian documentary 'Third Reich - Operation UFO' in its entirety, fully translated into English and available for free viewing. Many thanks to Irina Du Toit for the translation and the saucer people for the subtitles.
The film explores the historical mysteries and rumours of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation Highjump' expedition and the occult origins of Third Reich anti-gravity engines, flying discs and ancient Atlantean technologies viewed through the lens of perhaps the three most mysterious twentieth century German organisations of all: the 'Thule Society, 'Vril Society' and the 'Ahnenerbe'
One of the core themes of the film is the alleged existence of 'Base 211', the legendary underground Nazi base in the Antarctica. Drawing upon the pre-war Nazi interest in Antarctica and the creation of 'New Swabia'; the testimony of German U-Boat submarine commanders and the alleged disappearance of thousands of Nazi scientists and engineers at the end of the war, personnel that cannot be accounted for by the Vatican and Odessa 'rat lines' or American 'Operation Paperclip' activities. In addition, the film analyses the actual geo-physical possibilities of an underground base in Antarctica.
The other core theme is the alleged existence of a Nazi flying saucer program and the many evidential strands that this area generates. From the supposed channeling of extraterrestrial engineering schematics by members of the German occult group 'Thule Society' in the early part of the twentieth century to the 'implosion engine' of Viktor Schauberger and its possible appropriation by the Third Reich.
Bringing us to the the latter part of the twentieth century the documentary illustrates the many sightings of unknown crafts around the Antartic region and the theoretical basis for polar wormholes as entrance and exit points for visiting extraterrestrial spaceships and the possible involvement of HAARP, as well as asking why nearly all American Antarctic bases seem to be populated by agents of the National Security Agency and CIA.
Like the study of any phenomena and/or events that exist at the edges of consensus reality, occupy imaginal realms and are subject to historical revisionism; the interface of myth and reality is a shifting mosaic of fact, speculation, disinformation and fantasy, or to use the phrase of head CIA counter-intelligence spook, James Jesus Angleton, we have entered a "wilderness of mirrors".
Certainly there are elements in the documentary that give cause for concern such as the alleged "Special Bureau 13", the Nazi secret flying saucer research group and its similarity to the top secret government agency in the early eighties role playing game "Bureau 13: Stalking the Night Fantastic " (though equally the RPG title could be an insider homage to this secret Nazi organisation). Likewise, there is the lack of information on the existence of the US Navy destroyer 'Murdoch' in the testimony recounted by pilot 'John Sireson' in his description of the flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's fleet (testimony taken from an interview by the late pioneering American researcher Leonard Stringfield).
Equally, the testimony of Admiral Byrd that flying saucers attacked the 'Operation Highjump' fleet is of historical record as is his testimony to Congress of enemies that have the ability to fly "pole to pole". Likewise, the creation of 'New Swabia' is as much a historical fact as the 'impossible' existence of the 'Piri Reis' map.
What sets this documentary apart from most others of its kind is the inclusion of high ranking Russian scientists and military personnel and their testimony should not be discounted.
As the great American anti-fascist researcher Dave Emory says of many elements of deep politics: "its food for thought and grounds for further research".
Exopolitics UK and 'The Saucer People' are looking for other non-English UFO/alien related videos to help translate and subtitle, we have dozens of Russian documentaries waiting to be translated into English. If you speak Russian and are interested in translating any of this material please get in touch.
Likewise, if your country of origin has produced any UFO/alien documentaries and are interested in creating English translations to be subtitled please contact us.
It took a lot of hard work to make the translation of this documentary into English and create the subtitles and we would like to dedicate our work to the late American researcher Wendelle Stevens who is quoted in the film, In our opinion, Wendelle, who sadly died in 2011 was one of the few genuine professional researchers in the UFO community who like Linda Moulton Howe, actually went and spoke to the subjects and witnesses and researched cases first-hand.
Thank you indolering, excellent post!
heartbeatsalute
15-10-2012, 03:48 AM
http://www.strangerdimensions.com/tag/hollow-earth/
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Hollow Earth
Scientific Mission Hopes To Explore The Earth’s Mantle
Oct 3, 2012 Rob Schwarz Science
Drilling Into The Earth
Scientists hope to bring back the world’s first fresh samples of Earth’s mantle, in a $1 billion mission dubbed “the most challenging endeavor in the history of Earth science.”
They’ll do so by venturing out into the middle of the Pacific Ocean, where comparatively thin mid-ocean ridges exist. These should, in theory, allow geologists to reach the mantle within a relatively short 6 km of drilling, much less than the average ~30-40 km required on continental land.
The area they plan to drill, however, will be only 30 cm wide.
The Japanese deep-sea drilling ship Chikyu, which I mentioned in A Look Into The Inner Earth, will provide passage on the journey, and its unique drilling capabilities (Chikyu has already broken records by drilling more than 2,111 m) will make the feat possible.
It’s a complicated project, but it’s important — we’ve sent robots to Mars, but we’ve yet to truly explore the depths of our own planet. We may have an idea of what goes on down there, but we’ve never physically observed it.
If this mission pans out, scientists hope to reach the Earth’s mantle sometime in the 2020s.
Be sure to check out the Integrated Ocean Drilling Program for more information on exploring the Earth
heartbeatsalute
21-10-2012, 07:43 AM
Admiral Byrd, the Hollow Earth Exploration and UFOs - YouTube
indolering
23-10-2012, 12:59 AM
Cool video, man. I've only watched a half hour of it so far, but it has a lot of historical footage in it which I like...:cool:
indolering
07-11-2012, 06:39 AM
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I found this at the local library...I used to send away for books from this publisher, Loompanics Unlimited, which puts out all kinds of cool alternative books. I just started this, but it looks pretty good. Here's a review from Amazon....
Subterranean Worlds: 100,000 Years Of Dragons, Dwarfs, The Dead, Lost Races, And UFOs From Inside The Earth
By Walter Kafton-Minkel
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7324/51ochuqwcqlaa160.jpg
This is a great book. I found it about ten years ago in a small bookshop in Los Angeles (where else?), and sat up that night, with a candle burning on my patio and a glass of red wine at my elbow, utterly entranced. Mr. Kafton-Minkel is a writer of elegance and ease. He has that gift of straight-forward narrative (and high intelligence) so rare in writers of, as he humbly puts it in his forward, "crazy subjects." He tells the story of the Hollow Earth as if he were a calm Martin Gardner describing both the making of King Kong and the founding of Scientology in the same essay. In other words, he lets the crazies speak and lets his own fine mind let them do so, with comments that illuminate, and never disparage, his subjects. This is the very best of what the blinkered world calls "fringe" writing, by which I mean a disciplined, humane, skeptical, lovely, scary, beautifully written history that critics with no imagination will never understand; not the point of the author's labor, his ways or purposes, what this guy was really trying to get at. Hail, sir, and well done. I'm glad you're getting damned near a hundred bucks for a copy-- some folks know a good thing when they see it. Write more. Never Give Up.
The author also includes an extensive bibliography of related literature.
heartbeatsalute
07-11-2012, 06:57 AM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_17c.htm
Here is something on Undergrounnd Worlds and stuff. :)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51OchuQWCQL._SS400_.jpg
Tried to find this book in PDf, but no luck so far.
Thanks indolering, looks great!
Hi All, found this clip a while back and think it belongs here in this thread.
A Hollow Earth theory by Jan Lamprecht, his ideas very thought provoking.
Hollow Planets - Jan Lamprecht - Full film - YouTube
indolering
15-11-2012, 08:50 PM
This video is featured on the DI Headlines page today - I've not watched it yet - looks good, though.
Underground Civilisations - Ancient Man-made tunnels - YouTube
heartbeatsalute
15-11-2012, 09:34 PM
This video is featured on the DI Headlines page today - I've not watched it yet - looks good, though.
Underground Civilisations - Ancient Man-made tunnels - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xLERSRpYQ&feature=player_embedded)
Saw it ,excellent video, worth watching it!
indolering
16-11-2012, 12:21 AM
Saw it ,excellent video, worth watching it!
Thanks, H. Will do....:cool:
jinni
17-11-2012, 12:56 AM
There is a huge nuclear fusion going on in the core of the planet. Everything between between the core and crust has high heat energy. How come the seas haven't evaporated and the earth molten? Look how thin the crust is on a giant ball of super heat energy.
If you took a molten ball and put a thin layer of mud around it what would happen?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/geography/images/tec_001.gif
silentnomore
18-11-2012, 01:09 AM
We are taught that the ambient temperature in space is close to Absolute Zero (-273 degrees Celcius), so the core heat may simply be heating our planet enough to keep the world's water above freezing temperature.
Has anyone else read this page based on the work of Cyrus Reed Teed?
Miss Teri Baby Lonestar - "Post Hypnotic Epiphany" (http://www.missteribabylonestar.com/posthypnoticepiphany.html)
Any thoughts?
progenitor04
19-11-2012, 08:57 AM
so wat bout the radiation the inner sun wud give off, thats the only thing that bothers me
heartbeatsalute
15-12-2012, 07:55 AM
http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html
heartbeatsalute
15-12-2012, 08:01 AM
Inner Earth Expedition Updates with Brooks Agnew - YouTube
heartbeatsalute
15-12-2012, 08:30 AM
A Journey to Agartha (Inner Earth) - YouTube
spiralpeck100
I tell you all you need is the technology to produce cheap energy and you could start a civilization anywhere.
creativespirit
16-12-2012, 06:30 AM
I believe in this theory and many times I've heard about it from people I trust and they confirmed me this as logical explanation. This must be the strangest truth out there for someone completely uninformed about things on this planet. It is really mind blowing and it seems impossible to believe such thing, but it's the truth. After a while into reading some stuff and realizing true nature of universe, this solar system and how it's formed it became obvious that all planets are not only hollow, but they're even increasing in size over time. That's why many million years ago some laws of physhics were slightly different on this planet, like gravity and climate when Earth was much smaller. At first planet was one single continent and as Earth was increasing in size, continents started to take apart.
People often make mistake and think there are some kind of passages through the core, but you can't go there to Inner Earth following any cave or holes in the ground because theoretically you'd find yourself in some kind of 0 gravity point. Apperently there is already natural way to arrive inside of planet. Just by sailing far north or far south normally you'd arrive to a new continent. No matter how it looks from outer space or from above to us (like there's a hole in the north and south pole), to people long time ago Inner Earth wasn't Inner at all, it was just more space available to explore and it's possible that some part of human history happened there or it was influenced by civilizations existing inside of the planet.
creativespirit
16-12-2012, 06:35 AM
People often make mistake and think there are some kind of passages through the core, but you can't go there to Inner Earth following any cave or holes in the ground because theoretically you'd find yourself in some kind of 0 gravity point.
Besides, everything that geologists are saying it's true, there is a thick crust, continental plates moving, lava etc. it's just not all of it, they can't possibly prove the existance of all of these elements or them being that deep down. It's just a theory, unproven but most probable. (for today's science and technology anyway)
indolering
19-12-2012, 08:20 AM
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I was scanning John Rhodes's website tonight as he happened to be the guest on the Coast to Coast radio show. He has an interesting bibliography of books dealing with the "Underground". See what you think. Some of these titles look intriguing.
THE UNDERGROUND
Beneath the Earth : The Facts and The Fables (Landscapes of Legend) - Finn Bevan, Diana Mayo (Illustrator)
Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey - 1893 - Ingersoll Lockwood
A Journey to the Center of the Earth Jules Verne (1864) Jules Vernes timeless classic.
A Guide to the Inner Earth - Bruce Walton (1988) (Health Research, Inc.]
A Journey to the Earth's Interior or "Have The Poles Really Been Discovered?"- Marshall B Gardner (1913.) A classic and informative book that explains scientific evidence and applies logical perception to the hollow Earth theory/fact.
Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival (1992) - Joscelyn Godwin (Phanes Press)
Etidorpha - John Uri Lloyd (1895.) A man's journey into the Earth's interior with his faceless guide. The 1st and 11th edition include related scientific experiments to help verify theories.
Phantom of the Poles - William Reed (1906.) The first scientific investigation through the accounts of Arctic explorers.
*Richard Shaver Mysteries - Any of his material (First appeared in Ray Palmers (Editor/Writer-"Flying Saucers" magazine] Amazing Stories (1944.) Richard Shaver explains subsurface inhabitants, their dwellings and their purpose for remaining hidden from the surface species. Any of this authors works are highly recommended!
Secret of the Ages: UFO's from Inside the Earth - Brinsley Le Poer Trench (1974) (Pinacle Books]
Secret Places of the Lion - George Hunt Williamson
Subterranean Worlds (1989)- Walter Kaffton-Minkel (Loompanics Ultd.] Several pieces of great research regarding subterranean worlds and civilizations, the reptilians, the Shaver mysteries and many, many other wonderful and frightening secrets.
Lion People, The - Murray Hope (1988) (Thoth Publications]
Underpeople, The - Eric Norman
Extraterrestrials Among Us (1987) (Llewellyn Publications]
Extraterrestrial Friends and Foes, (1993) [Illuminet Press] - George Andrews An excellent compilation of
various UFO and underground base research works.
Smokey God, The - Willis George Emerson (1965.) Olaf Jansens story of a trip with his father into the Earth's interior.
Vril: The Power of the Coming Race - Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton [Stiener Publications]
Worlds Beyond The Poles - F. Amadeo Giannini. Scientific reasoning and the theory applied to the existence of a hollow Earth.
If you know of or have a copy of a book that you believe would be relevant in this listing, please contact us and let us know...Better yet, if you send a copy of the book or illustration to us for our review and inclusion into the Reptoids Research Center's library archives, it would greatly be appreciated. Credit will be applied.
heartbeatsalute
19-12-2012, 07:12 PM
http://www.preterhuman.net/texts/conspiracy/Dr.%20R.%20W.%20Bernard%20-%20The%20Hollow%20Earth.PDF
The Hollow Earth By Richard Bernard
omegatau
20-12-2012, 01:27 AM
Well, to claim that theres an 'inner Sun' is too much, but it came up because of the gravity we have on the surface. A major part of Earth could be hollow indeed, but a Sun inside it? If there is a second Sun inside Earth, then its nothing more or less than the molten core that is generally accepted to be there right now, its just a different name.
screamingeagle
23-12-2012, 06:10 PM
http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html
Interesting read HBS.....
Another interesting fact is that the United States Government does not let planes fly over the poles. All flights are directed to go around the Poles, and any airline pilot flying in these areas will tell you this. Another interesting phenomena is the fact that the icebergs are composed of fresh water and not salt water that drift from the Poles. Another interesting question is why it is warmer nearer the Poles than it is 600 to 1000 miles away from it.
EDIT: Most of the segment stories have "artificial sense" attached to it(with all "modern" exspressions and terms) but its interesting never the less
screamingeagle
25-12-2012, 04:17 PM
Inner Earth Expedition Updates with Brooks Agnew - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG-6hi7wZOs)
Agnew announced that his North Pole Inner Earth Expedition has gotten funding from a New York production company with a departure date set for July, 2013.
Count down starts in 6 days......:D:cool:
phrased eyebrow
26-12-2012, 01:54 AM
Interesting read HBS.....
EDIT: Most of the segment stories have "artificial sense" attached to it(with all "modern" exspressions and terms) but its interesting never the less
Enjoying the read. Thanks for the link. :)
indolering
26-12-2012, 06:28 AM
I've taken a few salient parts of Byrd's diary and reproduced them here, from the site quoted by heartbeatsalute
http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6241/260pxrichardebyrd0893e7.jpg
Admiral Byrd (circa 1955)
Admiral Richard E. Byrd's Diary (February - March 1947)
The exploration flight over the North Pole
The Inner Earth - My Secret Diary
I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It concerns my Arctic flight of the nineteenth day of February in the year of Nineteen and Forty-Seven.
There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.
...
11.45 Hours - I am making a hasty last entry in the Flight Log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply.
...
From this point I write all the following events here from memory. It defies the imagination and would seem all but madness if it had not happened. The radioman and I are taken from the aircraft and we are received in a most cordial manner. We were then boarded on a small platform-like conveyance with no wheels! It moves us toward the glowing city with great swiftness. As we approach, the city seems to be made of a crystal material. Soon we arrive at a large building that is a type I have never seen before. It appears to be right out of the design board of Frank Lloyd Wright, or perhaps more correctly, out of a Buck Rogers setting!! We are given some type of warm beverage which tasted like nothing I have ever savored before. It is delicious.
...
One of the beings motions for us to stop before a great door. Over the door is an inscription that I cannot read. The great door slides noiselessly open and I am beckoned to enter. One of my Hosts speaks. "Have no fear, Admiral, you are to have an audience with the Master..."
...
"I bid you welcome to our Domain, Admiral." I see a man with delicate features and with the etching of years upon his face. He is seated at a long table. He motions me to sit down in one of the chairs. After I am seated, he places his fingertips together and smiles. He speaks softly again, and conveys the following.
“We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral.”
“Surface World?”, I half-gasp under my breath!
“Yes,” the Master replies with a smile, “you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth. We shall not long delay your mission, and you will be safely escorted back to the surface and for a distance beyond. But now, Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the "Flugelrads", to your surface world to investigate what your race had done. That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on. You see, we have never interfered before in your race's wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for Man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist. You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.”
I interrupted, “But what does this have to do with me, Sir?”
The Master's eyes seemed to penetrate deeply into my mind, and after studying me for a few moments he replied, “Your race has now reached the point of no return, for there are those among you who would destroy your very World rather than relinquish their power as they know it...”
I nodded, and the Master continued, “In 1945 and afterward, we tried to contact your race, but our efforts were met with hostility, our Flugelrads were fired upon. Yes, even pursued with malice and animosity by your fighter planes. So, now, I say to you, my son, there is a great storm gathering in your World, a black fury that will not spend itself for many years. There will be no answer in your Arms, there will be no safety in your Science. It may rage on until every flower of your culture is trampled, and all Human things are leveled in vast chaos. Your recent War was only a prelude of what is yet to come for your race. We here see it more clearly with each hour..do you say I am mistaken?”
“No,” I answer, “it happened once before, the Dark Ages came and they lasted for more than five hundred years.”
“Yes, my son,” replied the Master, “the Dark Ages that will come now for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond that, I cannot say. We see at a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here, my son, safe in our keeping. When that time arrives, we shall come forward again to help revive your culture and your race. Perhaps, by then, you will have learned the futility of war and its strife...and after that time, certain of your culture and science will be returned for your race to begin anew. You, my son, are to return to the Surface World with this message.....”
With these closing words, our meeting seemed at an end. I stood for a moment as in a deam....but, yet, I knew this was reality, and for some strange reason I bowed slightly, either out of respect or humility, I do not know which.
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March 11, 1947. I have just attended a Staff Meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!!!! I am placed under strict control via the National Security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY!!! Incredible! I am reminded that I am a Military Man and I must obey orders.
30/12/56: Final Entry:
These last few years elapsed since 1947 have not been kind...I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing, I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values of moral right. Now, I seem to sense the long night coming on and this secret will not die with me, but as all truth shall, it will triumph and so it shall.
This can be the only hope for Mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free! I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex. Now, the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end. Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of Truth shall come again....and those who are of darkness shall fall in it's Light. FOR I HAVE SEEN THAT LAND BEYOND THE POLE, THAT CENTER OF THE GREAT UNKNOWN.
Admiral Richard E. Byrd
United States Navy
24 December 1956
swamideva
26-12-2012, 07:24 AM
wow 93,662 hits +1 will i ever get through it all
Namaste
http://www.albrecht-durer.org/174666/Hands-I-icon.jpg
heartbeatsalute
13-01-2013, 08:35 PM
http://www.npiee.org/
Now time for the millions to come to the support of the NPIEE project. If each of you send in nothing more than fifty cents each, we will have enough clear funds to buy the ship charter THIS MONTH and make the 2013 voyage a reality for all of you. Join the team and show the world that together, we can do this.
The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is by far the most innovative and courageous exploration effort in modern times. We are unable to go to the Moon. We are decades away from manned exploration to Mars. This Expedition to the North Pole region is possible and within reach.
truth seeker 09
30-01-2013, 10:55 AM
UFO contactee Alex Collier:
- the Earth is hollow
- the Moon is hollow
http://www.whale.to/b/collier.pdf
Collier's Moon and Mars lecture in the 90's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ
screamingeagle
30-01-2013, 11:13 PM
http://www.npiee.org/
i was under the impresion that they all ready have all the money needed(he sad that in that vid ) :confused:
screamingeagle
30-01-2013, 11:17 PM
heres the answer.....
After the sudden and strange disappearance of the the Park Avenue, New York film production company that previously had announced its plans to fund the expedition to make a documentary, we have regrouped and decided to run an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign. If this expedition is to be funded it looks as though it needs to be from the truth seekers of the world, each and everyone of of us that wishes to know more about our reality! So stand with us and pledge your support for this expedition and go to our Indiegogo campaign listing here. Now time for the millions to come to the support of the NPIEE project. If each of you send in nothing more than fifty cents each, we will have enough clear funds to buy the ship charter THIS MONTH and make the 2013 voyage a reality for all of you. Join the team and show the world that together, we can do this.
heartbeatsalute
30-01-2013, 11:25 PM
i was under the impresion that they all ready have all the money needed(he sad that in that vid ) :confused:
Perhaps, I don't really know screamingeagle. I guess if I ever go, I will go with friends or alone. This expedition thing has started in 2007 going to 2013, and they are still not taking off for one reason or another.
7 years of talk, if it doesn't happen now, they will simply not going to do it.
We need some one like Richard E. Byrd, who does things, he flew into hollow earth, didn't just talk about it.
The Pentagon told him not to speak anymore, but we know now that the earth is hollow.
heartbeatsalute
30-01-2013, 11:27 PM
heres the answer.....
Thank you screamingeagle.
screamingeagle
31-01-2013, 12:02 AM
i will go in there by me self but not alone......;) :)
like this....:D:D:D
http://www.outforadventure.com/images/Vancouver_Island_kayaking_BC.jpg
heartbeatsalute
12-02-2013, 07:16 PM
http://datachurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/caveinrock.jpg
Entrance to Agartha(Hollow Earth)
Heartbeatsalute your a true legend!!
Thanks for updating this thread, i really think this is the BIGGEST SECRET kept from the general public.I'm so glad this thread is still running, don't ever stop!
Something to contribute:
World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow!
http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ourhollo/p3.html
neville fan
13-02-2013, 12:57 PM
Looks pretty good. I will watch this later. Thanks for posting.
This video is featured on the DI Headlines page today - I've not watched it yet - looks good, though.
Underground Civilisations - Ancient Man-made tunnels - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xLERSRpYQ&feature=player_embedded)
grandmasterp
13-02-2013, 01:23 PM
David Icke states in THE BIGGEST SECRET, that many years ago many people seriously believed ,AND OTHERS STILL DO, that the earth IS Hollow(also see in youtube THE HOLLOW EARTH.) The Nazis, the writer Jules Verne(iniate of of the secret society with Connections to order of teh godlen dawn and others. it is said the earth has entrances at the poles saying a base was established in the Antartica, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who flew there with his entire USA crew,
David icke recommends reading the book THE HOLLOW EARTH by Dr. Raymond
Bernard as a summary of the evidence. It is said that the outer crust goes down 800 miles and beyond that the planet is hollow.
Also the unanswered question : why are iceberg made of fresh water , when the only water available at the poles is sea water?There rare fresh
water rivers out of the inner Earth forming the fresh water icebergs.
Ray Palmer believed that UFOs came not from space ,they came from the inner earth(hollow earth).
There is an inner sun , clouds, animals, which in the winter migrate to the north, to where it's warmer.
so there are people living inside this same earth, in the hollow earth,
miles under our feet ,and we are not supposed to know about it,
wouldn't believe it either, but Admiral Byrd and witnesses were there to see it. Reality is stranger than fiction.
The Roman writer, GAIUS PLINIUS SECUNDUS, known as Pliny,
refers to underground peoples who had fled from Atlantis ,
also legends of the Inner Earth dwellers called the Troglodytes who, Pliny said, have hidden in their tunnels a great ancient treasure.
........
Here's another ...
Some claim the scientists recorded Hell, I prefer to think it was the hollow earth dwelling folk who screamed at the hole in their ceiling.
http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/The-Sounds-of-Hell-Serbian-Scientists-Record
heartbeatsalute
13-02-2013, 03:15 PM
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Here's another ...
Some claim the scientists recorded Hell, I prefer to think it was the hollow earth dwelling folk who screamed at the hole in their ceiling.
http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/The-Sounds-of-Hell-Serbian-Scientists-Record
Interesting. Don't believe in Hell. Looks more like D.U.M.B.s
(Deep Underground Military Bases)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209974
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165768&highlight=Deep+Undeground+Military+bases&page=3
screamingeagle
17-02-2013, 11:30 AM
Some reposting from another thread
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061322359&postcount=67
and allegedly a letter from Karl Unger which he send (crew member of a U-209 boat) after they settled in the "hollow earth"
http://www.ourhollowearth.com/germanletter.gif
english version
http://www.ourhollowearth.com/germanletterinenglish.gif
heartbeatsalute
17-02-2013, 06:43 PM
http://urgente24.com/areax/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/portal.jpg
Mexico, hollow earth entrance
heartbeatsalute maybe we can gather around for an expedition? Would be sweet, no?
Talking the talk is one thing, but walking the walking is completely another level.
heartbeatsalute
17-02-2013, 07:14 PM
heartbeatsalute maybe we can gather around for an expedition? Would be sweet, no?
Talking the talk is one thing, but walking the walking is completely another level.
Sure is true SATY. Will have to walk that walk sometime. In the footsteps of Rear Admiral Byrd. For the time being will have to communicate traces , pictures that show us aghartha on this forum.
heartbeatsalute
03-04-2013, 02:20 AM
Espectacular aurora boreal - YouTube
Aurora borealis
heartbeatsalute
17-04-2013, 10:27 PM
http://www.npiee.org/expedition.html
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y9QlVwdpf6s/TduX-JQ9G5I/AAAAAAAABXM/76KMnwfzalI/s1600/Admiral+Byrd.png
heartbeatsalute
24-04-2013, 08:40 PM
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/08/german-spy-reveals-secret-us-hollow.html
August 8, 2012
German Spy Reveals Secret US-Hollow Earth Pact For Global Rule
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
A truly bizarre Federal Security Service (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today on the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) “asset” arrested yesterday by Germany’s National Intelligence Service (BND) for spying states that this German national has provided to Russian officials “compelling evidence” that the United States has entered into a “secret pact” with “unnamed forces” inhabiting our Earth’s interior regions for the purpose of ruling the world.
Western media sources reporting on this incident state that BND forces arrested a man identified only asManfred K., age 60, stating that he intended to give the information he acquired over to a “third party”unconfirmed reports say was, indeed, the SVR.
Manfred K., according to these reports, was a civilian worker at the United States-NATO Ramstein Air Baselocated in the German state of Rheinland-Pfalz, which is the command and control hub for the Western alliance’s European missile defense forces and headquarters of the US Air Forces in Europe, and who had access to many top secret documents.
According to this FSB report, some of the intelligence turned over to the SVR by Manfred K. included maps produced by the German Nazi Regime in the 1930’s and 1940’s detailing their underground bases located on the continent of Antarctica, the most shocking of them being [photo 2nd left] one that details in great depth our Earth’s hollow interior and the lands that exist there.
Important to note is that Germany has long been fascinated with Antarctica after noted German scientist Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss (1777-1855), who is ranked as one of history's most influential mathematicians, stated that all of Earth’s history, physics and geography could only be explained by our planet having a hollow, and populated, interior with the entrances to it being located at both the North and South Poles.
From 1901-1903 Germany conducted its first exploration of Antarctica in what is called the Gauss Expeditionwhere they claimed for themselves vast areas of our planets southern most continent.
Being fascinated with the discoveries made by German scientists during the Gauss Expedition the great American explorer Admiral Robert Edwin Peary, Sr. (1856-1920) embarked on a similar mission and in 1909 became the first man to reach the North Pole after which he was awarded the Imperial German Geographical Society Nachtigall gold medal, among many other international awards and honors.
Based upon the discoveries made by both the Gauss Expedition of Antarctica and Admiral Peary’s of theArctic, the famous American scientist Marshall B. Gardner in 1920 authored a book titled “A Journey to the Earth's Interior-or- Have the Poles Really Been Discovered?” which he then presented to both the US and German governments asking them to explain many things including:
“How do scientists explain the fact that when we go north it becomes colder up to a certain point and then begins to get warm? How do they explain the further fact that the source of this warmth is not any influence from the south but a series of currents of warm water and of warm winds from the north - supposed to be a land of solid ice? Where can these currents come from? How could they come from anything else but an open sea? And why should there be a warm open sea at the very place where scientists expect to find eternal ice? Where could this warm water possibly come from?”
“Why also should explorers find the inhospitable ice cliffs of the far north covered in large areas with the red pollen of an unknown plant? And why should they find the seeds of tropical plants floating in these waters - when they are not found in more southern waters? How should logs and branches of trees, sometimes with fresh buds on them be found in these waters, all being borne down by the warm currents from the north?”
“Why should the northern parts of Greenland be the world's greatest habitat of the mosquito, an insect which is only found in warm countries ? How could it have gotten to Greenland if it came from the south? Where do all the foxes and hares go which are seen traveling north in Greenland? Where did the bears go? Was it possible that such large creatures as bears could find sustenance on plains of eternal ice?”
“How do scientists explain the fact that practically every competent explorer from the earlier days down to Nansen has admitted that when he got to the Far North his theories of what he should find failed to work and his methods of finding his positions also failed to work? How do scientists explain these passages from Nansen which we have quoted, showing that he was absolutely lost in the Arctic region?”
“How do scientists explain the migrations of those birds which appear in England and other northern countries one part of the year, in the tropics in another part of the year, but disappear entirely in the winter?”
By 1938, with the Nazis now in control of Germany, none of the questions asked by Gardner had been answered whereupon Chancellor Adolf Hitler orderedanother expedition to Antarctica that lasted until 1939.
What was discovered in Antarctica by the Nazis during the 1938-1939 Antarctica expedition remains to this day highly classified among all the top world governments, with many speculating that a “deal” to end the war in Europe (World War II) was made between Germany and United States that allowed the Americans to gain German technology (atomic bombs, missile technology, jet fighter technology, etc.) in exchange for allowing top German leaders (including Adolf Hitler) to “retreat” to their massive bases they had built in and under the Southern Continent.
In 1946 the Western allies led by the United States apparently attempted to retake Antarctica from the Nazis in what was called “Operation Highjump”. Though this mission was purported be for scientific reasons, numerous other reports state that these American led forces were forced to retreat after having lost over 1,500 troops and suffering massive military material losses.
Returning in 1947 to the United States, Admiral Richard E. Byrd (1888-1957), the commander of Operation Highjump, is said to have warned that “the largest menace came now from the South Pole because they had observed airships that could fly to impressive speeds.”
The importance of Admiral Byrd leading Operation Highjump was noted by American scientist Dr. R. W. Bernard who in his 1964 book titled “The Hollow Earth-The Greatest Geographical Discovery in History” credited Byrd with discovering both the North and South Pole openings to the inner reaches of our planet and in his dedication stated:
“To the Future Explorers of the New World that exists beyond North and South Poles in the hollow interior of the Earth. Who will Repeat Admiral Byrd's historic Flight for 1,700 Miles beyond the North Pole and that of his Expedition for 2,300 Miles beyond the South Pole, entering a New Unknown Territory not shown on any map, covering an immense land area whose total size is larger than North America, consisting of forests, mountains, lakes, vegetation and animal life.
The aviator who will be the first to reach this New Territory, unknown until Admiral Byrd first discovered it, will go down in history as a New Columbus and greater than Columbus, for while Columbus discovered a new continent, he will discover a New World.”
To if this FSB report is true, and the United States has now entered into a pact with those who inhabit our inner Earth, it bears notice that the ancient symbol associated with these inner Earth peoples is the oldest on Earth dating back to very dawn of time from the ancient Indus Valley Civilization, but more well known for its last incarnation as being the hated and feared symbol used by the Nazi Germans called the swastika.
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rydeon
25-04-2013, 02:05 AM
Given the state the world is in it could be a good thing if that report is true...
believenothing
25-04-2013, 02:11 AM
Sorcha FAIL
Sorcha Faal is right less than Debka is. Which is less than a broken clock being right twice a day.
heartbeatsalute
27-04-2013, 04:15 PM
Here is another interésting thread on Hollow Earth wIth interesting
Information:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37054
heartbeatsalute
27-04-2013, 08:21 PM
Discover Hollow Earth - YouTube
heartbeatsalute
27-04-2013, 08:40 PM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_17c.htm
Here is something on Undergrounnd Worlds and stuff. :)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51OchuQWCQL._SS400_.jpg
Tried to find this book in PDf, but no luck so far.
Thanks indolering, looks great!
In lieu of an abstract, here is a brief excerpt of the content:
The bizarre idea that our earth is hollow and perhaps populated inside has been put to effective imaginative use by writers ranging from Edgar Allan Poe and Jules Verne to Rudy Rucker. The notion of a hollow earth had respectability as a scientific hypothesis among seventeenth- and eighteenth-century geologists. In the early nineteenth century, when most scientists no longer gave that hypothesis much credence, the American naval exploring expedition of 1838âÂÂ42, sponsored by an 1836 act of Congress, was initiated to test John Cleves Symmes's theory that the earth 'is hollow and habitable within.'
A beneficial unintended consequence of this expedition, which soon turned to less trivial pursuits, was establishment of the Smithsonian Institute to house collected specimens. Even now, belief in a hollow earth oddly persists among a lunatic fringe of no influence but (like flying saucer and alien abduction believers) of some interest to sociologists, satirists, and students of abnormal psychology. A niche in the overlapping histories of literature and of science is occupied by books and articles about hollow-earth proponents, their theories, and the literary uses of such ideas by writers of science fiction, fantasy, and utopias.
Peter Fitting's critical anthology contributes to existing scholarship on its topic by correcting errors in previous accounts and by making available a selection of relevant passages, many in his own translation to English. He concentrates on lesser-known and rare texts written before 1821 while also including judicious selections from more accessible works by such well-known later writers as Poe, Verne, Edward Bulwer-Lytton, and Edgar Rice Burroughs. Taking bits and pieces from larger works is seldom a good practice, but here it is very helpful.
People concerned only with tracing from a literary or scientific angle passages explicitly dealing with the idea of a hollow earth are spared the task of tracking down extremely rare books, while also in some cases having to translate them once found or having to winnow out a few pages from gigantic books otherwise irrelevant, such as Casanova's five-volume L'Icosameron. For each selection Fitting provides enough summary of the omitted material so that his readers can easily decide if for their purposes they ought to seek out and read the entire work. In this way Subterranean Worlds has the virtues without the usual tedium of an annotated bibliography.
Moreover, Fitting's introductory survey and subsequent remarks introducing each selection comprise an accurate concise history of the scientific and literary uses of ideas about a hollow earth. There is also a comprehensive bibliography of primary and secondary material, including references to many helpful websites. Fitting's introductions are elegant critical assessments in jargon-free prose with nice touches of wry humour that enliven his account. All this makes Fitting's anthology an excellent starting-point for neophytes.
For advanced scholars, Subterranean Worlds is indispensable because in it Fitting includes very scarce texts that have more often been misquoted, misunderstood, or ignored altogether than carefully read. He corrects previous errors while providing evidence that sets the record straight. This anthology is based on sound scholarship and original research on neglected texts, all dished up with impressive erudition and appealing enthusiasm for a topic that Fitting too modestly describes as, for himself at least, 'somewhere between a hobby and an obsession.' In fact, works in many genres about subterranean worlds are important for historians of geology, fantasy, science fiction, and utopias.
Subterranean Worlds advances knowledge in ways that make it valuable in itself and also as a signal aid and stimulus to further research that can now build on Fitting's contribution to the history of ideas about a hollow earth.
heartbeatsalute
27-04-2013, 10:28 PM
Athanasius Kircher's Depiction Of Vortex On Poles (Hollow Earth Entrance?) (1665) - YouTube
indolering
28-04-2013, 04:51 AM
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http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3802/51ochuqwcqlss400.jpg
I was fortunate that our library system here in Colorado had a copy of this text which I enjoyed and which gives an admirable overview of the history of the hollow earth theory. The author readily admitted that he doesn't believe in a hollow earth but he at least has the benefit of having studied the idea in some depth. I also admit that my enthusiasm for the theory diminished somewhat after finishing the book, not least due to the character of many of its proponents.
However, more recent quests have given renewed interest in this most fascinating of ideas, which has yet to be really debunked. The nazis were apparently quite serious about their expeditions, and the life of Admiral Byrd has yet to be fully revealed.
Further, the hypothesis that planets are formed with a cavernous interior, though not endorsed by mainstream science, also has not been debunked by any means. The idea that beings live within the earth is quite ancient, and until we actually go there, this idea will be with us as a real possibility.
heartbeatsalute
28-04-2013, 07:27 AM
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http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3802/51ochuqwcqlss400.jpg
I was fortunate that our library system here in Colorado had a copy of this text which I enjoyed and which gives an admirable overview of the history of the hollow earth theory. The author readily admitted that he doesn't believe in a hollow earth but he at least has the benefit of having studied the idea in some depth. I also admit that my enthusiasm for the theory diminished somewhat after finishing the book, not least due to the character of many of its proponents.
However, more recent quests have given renewed interest in this most fascinating of ideas, which has yet to be really debunked. The nazis were apparently quite serious about their expeditions, and the life of Admiral Byrd has yet to be fully revealed.
Further, the hypothesis that planets are formed with a cavernous interior, though not endorsed by mainstream science, also has not been debunked by any means. The idea that beings live within the earth is quite ancient, and until we actually go there, this idea will be with us as a real possibility.
I would like to read i just the same.
Have you read the book THE HOLLOW EARTH by Raymond Bernard.
It's really interésting, detailed, and doesn't draw conclusión for you,
Although the facts, even though we haven't been there, speak for themselves.
I have lost hope on the Expedition, but a miracle can always happen.
If there was no hollow Earth, there wouldn't be a CIA or FBI seeing to it
That no one is allowed to fly over the entrance around the world to unter hollow Earth, they are militarily guarding something that we are not suppose to know.
Also, since in this world everything has to do valuable and precious metals, diamonds, gold, silver, copper, platinum, and other interésting minerals of
value, maybe there is that, who knows?
This has been talked about for centuries, it's in holy books, legends,
In the dialogues of Plato(the last one) which I placed in this thread.
Buddhists, until today say it is a real physical place, no wonder the Nazis
went to the Tibet, to research and father all the information they could.
Also Rear.Admiral Richard E. Byrd (a Freemason), who after having so Many
Public world interviews, was told by the Pentagon, not to speak anymore,
And fInally, Byrd is unknown to new generations.
With today's tecnology, I Am sure something will be done to clarify things,
since proofs are needed, I Am sure Byrd took Lots of pictures and films,
but since there is always someone CONTROLLING what we see and what
We don't, we'll simply have to see it for ourseves.
In these times, when it is said that "all will be revealed", I hope this is
Known to ALL of us indolering.
indolering
28-04-2013, 01:35 PM
By all means, you should read it if you get a chance - it's very good and like I said, he gives an excellent summary of the more recent history of the idea and the colorful personalities of its proponents.
I would love for Agartha to be real, populated by some wonderful, enlightened beings.... For now, I suspend my judgment since convincing proof either way is still forthcoming. The idea is so old and so bred into our psyche that it seems quite real already! But it's a fascinating study and can hone one's skills in detective work....:D
It is indeed suspicious that the US military prevents people from approaching the poles - we will learn the truth of it one of these days.
heartbeatsalute
28-04-2013, 03:56 PM
Here is agood summary link on Hollow Earth:
http://www.librarising.com/hollow/hollowarchives.html
heartbeatsalute
30-04-2013, 04:54 AM
Hollow Earth Theory (old legends) - YouTube
heartbeatsalute
02-05-2013, 04:55 AM
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/german-hollow-earth-expedition-pictures-docs-2571200.html
German Hollow Earth Expedition pictures.
heartbeatsalute
14-05-2013, 08:51 AM
Here is a very interesting exchange of ideas in another Forum on Hollow Earth
Based on Vedas, Puranas ,Hinduism and The Hollow Earth:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=626
heartbeatsalute
24-05-2013, 12:24 AM
http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/
kblood
24-05-2013, 06:59 AM
Anyone know when the Earth became hollow, or why?
nanny nutty
24-05-2013, 11:30 AM
Hi kblood,as I understand it the earth became hollow as it was formed,due to centrifugal forces.
I'm not a scientist,but it makes sense to me.
Plenty of convincing evidence in Raymond Bernard's book,'Hollow Earth'.
indolering
24-05-2013, 08:40 PM
http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/
Thanks. I enjoyed that. Nice site.:cool:
indolering
24-05-2013, 08:44 PM
Hi kblood,as I understand it the earth became hollow as it was formed,due to centrifugal forces.
I'm not a scientist,but it makes sense to me.
Plenty of convincing evidence in Raymond Bernard's book,'Hollow Earth'.
That is probably the most plausible scientific explanation of the theory.
gripit
24-05-2013, 08:48 PM
Hi kblood,as I understand it the earth became hollow as it was formed,due to centrifugal forces.
I'm not a scientist,but it makes sense to me.
Plenty of convincing evidence in Raymond Bernard's book,'Hollow Earth'.
Read it here (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm) :)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm
indolering
24-05-2013, 09:15 PM
Read it here (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm) :)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm
Thank you.
heartbeatsalute
25-05-2013, 12:03 AM
http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0008d.htm