The Hollow Earth

[hagbard_celine]

not enough mass for gravity. assuming this would imply that there would be an antire layer of magma covering the inner shell (lol), hovering on the ceiling. it would make for some magnetic ressonance, but again - u must see how rediculous this sounds.



That's just the Easter Egg Fallacy all over again! Have you ever picked up an Easter Egg and felt its weight? From that simple heft you can calculate the mass and density of chocolate. But only because you know the egg is hollow! Now imagine you didn't know the egg was hollow. You may well miscalculate the mass and density of chocolate, concluding that it is far lighter and less dense than it actually is!;)

[hagbard_celine]

Pollen can be carried that far it seems, at least to the northern cap. again, not enough info to make the argument.
but lets say there was an underwater freshwater stream:

for this to work, the hollow earth would have either an infinite source of water, allowing it to stream continuously - or the inside is more or less all salt from the influx of saltwater, which then returns to the upper layer as freshwater. either way, no way. And give me one pick about the streets being filled with froggies, not some link on the internet where u read it.

But the Inner Earth does have an infinite supply of runing water. It's part of the same planet so it's bound to have a water cycle like the outer Earth does. I'm sure the ocean currents flow back into the inside just like the air currents do. We share the same water you know!

[hagbard_celine]

Scientists don't know every single last detail concerning planetary bodies, but they know enough to be certain that a hollow earth is friggin' impossible. Unless you wanna claim that the entire concept of gravity is a conspiracy...
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It's not a conspiracy necessarily, but we still have a lot to learn about gravity. People are starting to question Eistein. Also the Earth's gravitatioinal field , even as we know it, is not spherical and regular. There are anomal;ies, weak and strong points, that shouldn't be there according to the theoriectical model.

how we manage to walk on the surface of the Earth, and how the supposed inhabitants of the hollow earth manage to walk on its surface upside down (from our perspective) at the same time.


Simple: We're both attracted to the centre of the gravitational field: straight down. Although its possible that in the inner Earth the net pull of gravity might be weaker because some of it will be cancelled out the the attraction of the antipodean crustal shell.

[hagbard_celine]

You'll also have to explain the existence of things like magma, coal, crystals, diamonds....things which are created by intense pressure. And explain how the pressure at the bottom of the ocean can be so intense, and then this pressure suddenly stops at the point in which the earth becomes "hollow". And how does the sun burn? How could an "interior sun" even exist within the earth and how do the inhabitants manage to not fall into it? .

This is once again the Easter Egg Fallacy (see my above posts) and the use of the, nowadays questionable, model of gravity.

[hagbard_celine]

I think the Hollow Earth theories would make a great film, something akin to Jurassic Park or King Kong.



Thanks all for your input in this, its a very interesting concept and sparks my imagination. Exactly what a forum thread should do. I better get writing the screenplay...

Send it off to Steven Spielberg when you're done! The Hollow Earth theory already been basis for a couple, and it would indeed make a brialliant new movie.:)

[umbrex]

That's just the Easter Egg Fallacy all over again! Have you ever picked up an Easter Egg and felt its weight? From that simple heft you can calculate the mass and density of chocolate. But only because you know the egg is hollow! Now imagine you didn't know the egg was hollow. You may well miscalculate the mass and density of chocolate, concluding that it is far lighter and less dense than it actually is!;)

honestly hagbard.. the hollow earth theory is a myth, deeply embedded into our culture du to jules verne's odyssé to the inside of the earth (or something)..

it cant be disproven, but everything is against you on this and tbh, your attitude towards this, is imo conditioned by the urge to mysteries which, even though not directly disproven - can be solved by bringing together data and applying your common sense but it ruins the mystery.. no more exciting stuff, right there to be speculated about from your comfy chair. i can only imagine what else is there to envigorate you ?

and the water thing.. as i said (if u had comprehended that part of the post) was that saltwater goes in, freshwater goes out, alledgedly (according to your discourse) become icebergs.. as i wrote, there would have to be some distillation process, leaving all the salt inside. you say there is an infinite amount of water inside, and part of a stream, well thats a fallacy, the amount of water is finite, it is merely incorporated into one big system, assuming the hollow earth was true, was what you meant right.
tbh i'm tired of the increasing tendency of people to accept nonsense without applying logic to it, there is an enormous difference between an open mind and an empty head. it's as if when people realize that everything isn't as it seems, they tend to accept the truly gone stuff, as the hollow earth.. this is in the NWO thread, and has gotten so much attention..

what about the NWO, especially the north american union, maybe keep something like that afloat - inform people of what's really relevant, instead of speculating about wether or not the world is hollow.. for crying out loud the whole idea is preposterous..

[delamo1999]

honestly hagbard.. the hollow earth theory is a myth, deeply embedded into our culture du to jules verne's odyssé to the inside of the earth (or something)..


tbh i'm tired of the increasing tendency of people to accept nonsense without applying logic to it, there is an enormous difference between an open mind and an empty head. it's as if when people realize that everything isn't as it seems, they tend to accept the truly gone stuff, as the hollow earth.. this is in the NWO thread, and has gotten so much attention..

what about the NWO, especially the north american union, maybe keep something like that afloat - inform people of what's really relevant, instead of speculating about wether or not the world is hollow.. for crying out loud the whole idea is preposterous..

What makes you think that all of this is nonsense? I think that Hagbard has some really good points here. I don't want to get into some petty arguement here, but I would also like to point out here that just because something cannot be physically proved does not mean that it does not exist.

[mynameis]

Besides the fictional journey to the moon as envisioned by early writers, this account is the first that was created by a woman, as to the abduction to a fantasy world near the north pole. This was way before Jules Verne.

The Blazing World
Title page of Margaret Cavendish's The Description of a New World, Called The Blazing-World, 1666; rpt. 1668.

The Description of a New World, Called The Blazing-World, better known as The Blazing World, is a 1666 work of prose fiction by English writer Margaret Cavendish, the Duchess of Newcastle. As its full title suggests, Blazing World is a fanciful depiction of a utopian kingdom in another world (with different stars in the sky) that can be reached via the North Pole. A young woman from our world enters this other world, becomes the empress of a society composed of various species of talking animals, and organizes an invasion back into our world complete with submarines towed by the "fish men" and the dropping of "fire stones" by the "bird men" to confound the enemies of her homeland (apparently England). The work, which many credit as one of the earliest examples of science fiction, was republished in 1668 with Cavendish's Observations upon Experimental Philosophy and thus functioned as an imaginative component to what was otherwise a reasoned endeavour in 17th century science.

Cavendish's book inspired a notable sonnet by her husband, William Cavendish, 1st Duke of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, which celebrates her imaginative powers. The sonnet was included in her book.

The Blazing World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This work was contemporary with Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels and Imaginary voyages to the moon in the 17th century, first in Johannes Kepler's Somnium (The Dream, 1634), and then in Cyrano de Bergerac's Comical History of the States and Empires of the Moon (1656). Space travel also figures prominently in Voltaire's Micromégas (1752).

Other early works of significance include the alternate world found in the Arctic by a young noblewoman in Margaret Cavendish's 1666 novel, The Description of a New World, Called the Blazing-World, the account of life in the future in Louis-Sébastien Mercier's l'An 2440, and the descriptions of alien cultures in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels (1726) and in Ludvig Holberg's Niels Klim's Underground Travels. In 1733, Samuel Madden wrote Memoirs Of the Twentieth Century, in which the narrator in 1728 is given a series of state documents from 1997-1998 by his guardian angel, a plot device which is reminiscent of later time travel novels although the story does not explain how the angel obtained these documents.

Also worthy of note are Simon Tyssot de Patot's Voyages et Aventures de Jacques Massé (1710), which features a Lost World, La Vie, Les Aventures et Le Voyage de Groenland du Révérend Père Cordelier Pierre de Mésange (1720), which features a Hollow Earth, and Nicolas-Edmé Restif de la Bretonne's La Découverte Australe par un Homme Volant (1781) notorious for his prophetic inventions.

History of science fiction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In his 1720 La Vie, les Aventures et le Voyage de Groenland du Révérend Père Cordelier Pierre de Mésange [The Life, Adventures & Trip To Greenland Of The Rev. Father Pierre de Mesange], Tyssot de Patot introduced the concept of a Hollow Earth. This was the first time that the notion of a journey to the center of the Earth was depicted in a realistic, pseudo-scientific fashion, as opposed to the various mythological journeys to Hell, such as Dante Alighieri's The Divine Comedy. Tyssot de Patot's book predates that of Danish writer Ludvig Holberg Voyage of Nikolas Klimius (1741) and Jules Verne's classic Journey to the Center of the Earth (1864).

Tyssot de Patot described how his protagonists discover a hidden, underground kingdom located near the North Pole. That kingdom is inhabited by the descendants of African colonists who had left their homeland four thousand years earlier. This proto-Pellucidar is lit by a mysterious fire ball and is inhabited by small man-bat creatures. The novel also featured the character of the Wandering Jew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Tyssot_de_Patot

The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. The exact nature of the wanderer's indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, sometimes he is the doorman at Pontius Pilate's estate, and sometimes the myth is transferred to a Roman rather than a Jew.

Wandering Jew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which is like Stephen King's the man in black Randall Flagg, It, or Nyarlathotep (an H. P. Lovecraft character), to the common. Many, but not all, of the names he goes by make use of the initials R.F.[10] Examples include Richard Fannin, who appears in The Waste Lands and Rudin Filaro, who appears via flashbacks in The Dark Tower. He also draws on the archetype of the "plague-bearer", particularly in The Stand, and of Ahasuerus, the legendary Wandering Jew. He carries pamphlets for the Ku Klux Klan, the Black Panthers, the Weather Underground, and other such groups, presumably to stir up trouble where none exists.

Nyarlathotep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hence, evil personified, transfixed, or possession. Though these are all works of fiction. Religions have always documented possession.

[hagbard_celine]

honestly hagbard.. the hollow earth theory is a myth, deeply embedded into our culture du to jules verne's odyssé to the inside of the earth (or something)..

it cant be disproven, but everything is against you on this and tbh, your attitude towards this, is imo conditioned by the urge to mysteries which, even though not directly disproven - can be solved by bringing together data and applying your common sense but it ruins the mystery.. no more exciting stuff, right there to be speculated about from your comfy chair. i can only imagine what else is there to envigorate you ?

and the water thing.. as i said (if u had comprehended that part of the post) was that saltwater goes in, freshwater goes out, alledgedly (according to your discourse) become icebergs.. as i wrote, there would have to be some distillation process, leaving all the salt inside. you say there is an infinite amount of water inside, and part of a stream, well thats a fallacy, the amount of water is finite, it is merely incorporated into one big system, assuming the hollow earth was true, was what you meant right.
tbh i'm tired of the increasing tendency of people to accept nonsense without applying logic to it, there is an enormous difference between an open mind and an empty head. it's as if when people realize that everything isn't as it seems, they tend to accept the truly gone stuff, as the hollow earth.. this is in the NWO thread, and has gotten so much attention..

what about the NWO, especially the north american union, maybe keep something like that afloat - inform people of what's really relevant, instead of speculating about wether or not the world is hollow.. for crying out loud the whole idea is preposterous..

Well firstly: I'm not saying that the Hollow model is definitely true; what I'm saying is that it is at least equally likely to be true as the prevailing SS model. It's not just fantasy-loving suspension of disbelief; I think these are legitimate questions for the reasons I've stated on this thread. I'm not sure what this means: "Applying common sense". If you mean, as many do, that because something is generally accepted by the prevailing paradigm then it's more likely to be true for that reason then I dispute that. There was a time when SS-theorists were treated in the exact same way that Hollow Earth theorists are today. SS-theorists, some of them very famous to this day as pioneers and explorers like Columbus and Magellan, were called crazy and were told "use your common sense" The Earth must be flat!" The word here is paradigm! We measure any theory's legitimacy by how closely it converges or diverges in relation to the current paradigm.

As for the water issue. I'm not saying that the water circulation system is one-way. Salt water may well flow both in and out of the polar orifice, but according to the SS model, fresh water cannot flow out. So when signs of fresh water ice come out of the north we have to ask ourselves if the SS model needs to be questioned. When I said water was infinite i didn't mean it literally; I was using a metaphor for the water cycle being infinite.

[hagbard_celine]

Another clue that supports the Hollow Earth model is animal migration. The arctic tern is a good example: Arctic Tern - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia These birds migrate between the north and south poles every year. It's possible that some travel through the Inner Earth as well as the outer Earth. Unlike us, this species has no Illuminati ruling over them and keeping some things secret. If I was an arctic tern then I'd consider taking the inner route. It's slightly less distance and with a constant level of sunshine, fixed climate and no night the going would probably be easier

[umbrex]

So when signs of fresh water ice come out of the north we have to ask ourselves if the SS model needs to be questioned. .

i already gave u the explanation on this and still, you want to ask question.. something which strengthens my view that some conspiracy people are in love with the idea of the mystery, and by being that, they leave out common sense.

[hagbard_celine]

i already gave u the explanation on this and still, you want to ask question.. something which strengthens my view that some conspiracy people are in love with the idea of the mystery, and by being that, they leave out common sense.

I understood what you said here:

and the water thing.. as i said (if u had comprehended that part of the post) was that saltwater goes in, freshwater goes out, alledgedly (according to your discourse) become icebergs.. as i wrote, there would have to be some distillation process, leaving all the salt inside. you say there is an infinite amount of water inside, and part of a stream, well thats a fallacy, the amount of water is finite, it is merely incorporated into one big system, assuming the hollow earth was true, was what you meant right.


And I explained that you don't need a distilation process for salt water any more than you need one in the rest of the water cycle. Ocean currents can go in both directions, but fresh water can also do so. What fresh water cannot do is appear in the arctic in large quantities within the parameters of the SS model.

something which strengthens my view that some conspiracy people are in love with the idea of the mystery, and by being that, they leave out common sense

That phrase again: "Common sense". What does it mean?:confused: And yes, I am in love with the idea of mystery. But so are mainstream scientists; are you going to hold it against them too?

[yngwie]

I think the Hollow Earth theories would make a great film, something akin to Jurassic Park or King Kong.
Already done mate ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052948/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200755/


and many more :D

[adzboarder]

Indeed yngwie, but I am thinking of a new one, a modern one, one that's not based on Jules Verne, but seperate in it's entirety and focused on the hollow earth. Perhaps with a modernist alien style enemy or entity living in hollow earth.

An epic modern CGI laden film, none of this 50's and 60's shite!

[adzboarder]

PS: Well done Hagbard, you present your information and facts in a very pleasant manner and have nicely stood your ground and answered all that has been asked despite some differing viewpoints from others.

I'm with you, it's the mystery surrounding this that draws me in. Lets book a trip on that ice-breaker and go and see for ourselves!

[yngwie]

Indeed yngwie, but I am thinking of a new one, a modern one, one that's not based on Jules Verne, but seperate in it's entirety and focused on the hollow earth. Perhaps with a modernist alien style enemy or entity living in hollow earth.

An epic modern CGI laden film, none of this 50's and 60's shite!

Hey, the 50's and 60's ones were great! :mad: :p

The more recent ones have been the more disappointing ones I find. The earlier ones had that innocent atmosphere to them, wondrous exploration :D

Maybe a new one could be made with decent "aliens"/enemies though :o

[mynameis]

Another clue that supports the Hollow Earth model is animal migration. The arctic tern is a good example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_tern These birds migrate between the north and south poles every year. It's possible that some travel through the Inner Earth as well as the outer Earth. Unlike us, this species has no Illuminati ruling over them and keeping some things secret. If I was an arctic tern then I'd consider taking the inner route. It's slightly less distance and with a constant level of sunshine, fixed climate and no night the going would probably be easier

We're in real trouble as a species if we can't track a group of migratory birds on radar with rfid transponders. Honestly, can we think of why the tern wouldn't fly where there's sustenance?

Birds have poor breathing conditions in toxic situations, how toxic do we know the inner earth is? One clue is the air quality of areas near volcanic activity. This chemical activity goes on at greater degrees the further into the earth you travel. Natural gas is another hazard along with anaerobic organizms.

Secondly, I think the observers are right to acknowledge that common sense about all available data points to most of these ideas as magical thinking. Yes there are caves and in those caves even the temperatures increase beyond the range of animal tolerance beyond proto-microbes and Acidobacteria.

If we can't go into a cave and survive the heat what makes us think that birds will? What makes us think that even an underwater cave would or could ever lead to another world of inner darkness, a place where the physics of gravity becomes meaningless, and a ball of heated metal exists in its center.

[hagbard_celine]

PS: Well done Hagbard, you present your information and facts in a very pleasant manner and have nicely stood your ground and answered all that has been asked despite some differing viewpoints from others.

I'm with you, it's the mystery surrounding this that draws me in. Lets book a trip on that ice-breaker and go and see for ourselves!


Cheers, buddy!:), But I'd give the icebreaker a miss. I think it's a big scam. They charge $40,000 a ticket! You could go around the world for less than that! Then just before departure the website goes down and that's the last you hear about it until a few months later when they begin advertizing next years trip!:rolleyes:

[hagbard_celine]

We're in real trouble as a species if we can't track a group of migratory birds on radar with rfid transponders. Honestly, can we think of why the tern wouldn't fly where there's sustenance?

Birds have poor breathing conditions in toxic situations, how toxic do we know the inner earth is? One clue is the air quality of areas near volcanic activity. This chemical activity goes on at greater degrees the further into the earth you travel. Natural gas is another hazard along with anaerobic organizms.

Secondly, I think the observers are right to acknowledge that common sense about all available data points to most of these ideas as magical thinking. Yes there are caves and in those caves even the temperatures increase beyond the range of animal tolerance beyond proto-microbes and Acidobacteria.

If we can't go into a cave and survive the heat what makes us think that birds will? What makes us think that even an underwater cave would or could ever lead to another world of inner darkness, a place where the physics of gravity becomes meaningless, and a ball of heated metal exists in its center.


I don't think it is a place of darkness and heat. From what people who've written about the subject have said, it's a perfectly pleasant environment, really no different to the surface world we know. The atmosphere is the same and many plant and animal species are identical. In fact, as I've just discussed, animals probably come and go as they please between the outer and inner worlds. The big diference is there is no night and no seasons. Weather changes regularly between extremes, but no more extreme than that of the surface world. It rains and snows and sometimes gets very hot, but there's no hellish abyss.

Tracking animals like the Arctic tern is a good avenue of reseach i think. If there are more of the birds at their destination than we observe flying between the poles then it's likely that some of them migrate through the inner Earth.

[mynameis]

We could well say furry kittens run around the insides of Hollow Earth and without anything to prove that as fallacious, the argument is all just mere magical thinking. Why dismiss the well known facts about the Terns as shown by ornithologists. Humor me, what facts do we have besides the magical thinking that birds could fly through the Earth?

[hagbard_celine]

We could well say furry kittens run around the insides of Hollow Earth and without anything to prove that as fallacious, the argument is all just mere magical thinking. Why dismiss the well known facts about the Terns as shown by ornithologists. Humor me, what facts do we have besides the magical thinking that birds could fly through the Earth?

We have no facts yet. But we have a hypothesis: Arctic terns migrate every year between the two poles. Unlike our own species, have no Illuminati, therefore they probably know that the Earth is hollow. A trip inside would be far easier than migrating aorund the outside, so we can speculate that most of the terns would fly inside. Now lets see if there's any evidence to indicate this. Like fewer birds spotted en route than we know their population is.

[chandrakavi]

Look in http://xeeatwelve.com

once there look at the title THE HOLLOW EARTH'S CUBED SUNS.

[xpleet]

Look in http://xeeatwelve.com

once there look at the title THE HOLLOW EARTH'S CUBED SUNS.

..:D

and yeah..hollow earth ( hollow planet ) is real.


and only because some scientists put their molton-core-model ( have-no-clue-model) for reference in science, the hollow earth theory is now consireded "conspiracy"

the conspiracy however is, that the ruling elite of the earth are covering it up...


http://www.geocities.com/a_star_thing/earthholepole1.jpg

apollo proof photo

ps: and for those who say the hollow earth is simply inconceivable because the "chances of life on earth" would be too low, BS.

*rings the bells* Because everything on earth is by design *rings the bells*.

Nothing evolved here nor came it by coincidence.

[chandrakavi]

..:D

and yeah..hollow earth ( hollow planet ) is real.


and only because some scientists put their molton-core-model ( have-no-clue-model) for reference in science, the hollow earth theory is now consireded "conspiracy"

the conspiracy however is, that the ruling elite of the earth are covering it up...


http://www.geocities.com/a_star_thing/earthholepole1.jpg

apollo proof photo

ps: and for those who say the hollow earth is simply inconceivable because the "chances of life on earth" would be too low, BS.

*rings the bells* Because everything on earth is by design *rings the bells*.

Nothing evolved here nor came it by coincidence.

Thanks for the information xpleet, appreciate it. the http://xeatwelve.com you sent me, has a lot of information.

[mynameis]

..:D

and yeah..hollow earth ( hollow planet ) is real.


and only because some scientists put their molton-core-model ( have-no-clue-model) for reference in science, the hollow earth theory is now consireded "conspiracy"

the conspiracy however is, that the ruling elite of the earth are covering it up...


http://www.geocities.com/a_star_thing/earthholepole1.jpg

apollo proof photo

ps: and for those who say the hollow earth is simply inconceivable because the "chances of life on earth" would be too low, BS.

*rings the bells* Because everything on earth is by design *rings the bells*.

Nothing evolved here nor came it by coincidence.

Not that I trust the Apollo Missions, astrophysicists / astronomers would have observed examples of hollow planets in our other 8 neighbors and their moons.

[dane]

http://www.av1611.org/images/discovery.jpg

"We may owe our existence to a nuclear reactor of solid uranium 3959 miles below our feet"

..IMAGINE HOW GREAT THAT WOULD BE!
..IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
ITS BLOWING MY FUCKING MIND,YAY PRAISE THE 'SOLID URANIUM!'

This type of fucking rubbish depresses me, mainly because its a buyable lie in this knowledge filtered world. Admiral Richard Byrds Diary And Expedition Notes Make More Fucking Sense, and the U.S shutting up his story, just like Billy.

[xpleet]

"We may owe our existence to a nuclear reactor of solid uranium 3959 miles below our feet"

Oh god that is so damn funny. Lmao

Like i wrote in my thread,

there's a 'S'cience that became rather a belief system of things that are not even damned proven in a single way.

That is the 'S'cience which is different and stands in absolute contradiction from the science trying to explain things through mathematics, physics etc.

And I don't even need proof to disprove how ridiculous some of the "beliefs" of 'S'cience is. Just an untainted mind.

True science does not claim to know things that they can't proof,

but feel free to join our great 'S'cience because we understand the world!!!

[hagbard_celine]

Thanks for the information xpleet, appreciate it. the http://xeatwelve.com you sent me, has a lot of information.

Are you suggesting that photoes taken by the Apollo missions counts as proof or were you just being ironic!?:eek::confused::D

[xpleet]

Are you suggesting that photoes taken by the Apollo missions counts as proof or were you just being ironic!?:eek::confused::D

wait a second,

I think you mixed something up.

I came up with the Apollo image.

I linked chandrakavi the xeea website that basically just deals with the matter.

[xpleet]

@Hagbard,

these seem to be the official Apollo 16 images.

Funnily they are not acknowledged to show anything like an entrance or something but just cloudforms over northpole (see how ridiculous the elite presents things?)

No mention that all efforts are being done to hide this from 6bl. people.

@sidreighn,

you're wasting your time. Noone really cares to give posts like that a second thought.




Here are some eleged pictures of the other (hollow)planets in our solarsystem.

http://www.holloworbs.com/real_m7.jpg

http://science.nasa.gov/images/mars_hst_big.jpg

From NASA gov (the confirmed space faker)
Why not photoshop over those clouds a little more and close the hole? ;)

One site claims that the inner mars sun is lighting up the clouds from inside.

Probably every single one of the real photos is edited and filtered so many times until it appears on the internet since it's all NASA's. But NASA really doesn't expect people to expect the earth to be hollow!

Aurora Borealis is the most real proof one should be aware of.

[mynameis]

@Hagbard,

these seem to be the official Apollo 16 images.

Funnily they are not acknowledged to show anything like an entrance or something but just cloudforms over northpole (see how ridiculous the elite presents things?)

No mention that all efforts are being done to hide this from 6bl. people.

@sidreighn,

you're wasting your time. Noone really cares to give posts like that a second thought.




Here are some eleged pictures of the other (hollow)planets in our solarsystem.

http://www.holloworbs.com/real_m7.jpg

http://science.nasa.gov/images/mars_hst_big.jpg

From NASA gov (the confirmed space faker)
Why not photoshop over those clouds a little more and close the hole? ;)

One site claims that the inner mars sun is lighting up the clouds from inside.

Probably every single one of the real photos is edited and filtered so many times until it appears on the internet since it's all NASA's. But NASA really doesn't expect people to expect the earth to be hollow!

Aurora Borealis is the most real proof one should be aware of.

This site doesn't show where the actual picture is from to verify anything. I should also point out that those pictures are not on the same side of the planet Mars. Mars has dust storms not clouds. The palettes of the picture real_m7 don't match under inverted colors they are blocks that look tampered with as someone pointed out.

[mynameis]

Perhaps I spoke too soon. Mars does indeed have very condensed cloud formations.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html

[xpleet]

Ups, sorry I didn't realize that it is not commonly accepted that you can breathe on Mars, that it has a full life supporting atmosphere and a nice blue sky.
When the blue atmopshere thing was exposed, NASA had to admit it, explaining it away by saying that something was wrong with the lense of their cameras LOL.
That such a statement is not instantly blown away shows how fishy the public is.


NASA not only brushes out huge UFOs but also uses faulty color filters that have presented Mars in a false light for decades.

[xpleet]

Xpleet, I know you're keen to ignore my posts and that fine, however, what are you basing "faulty colour filters" on?

Have you been told this, or is it an assumption? I am interested to know.

I don't have a source for this now. You'd have to google it, sure find it.

I remember seeing two pictures of the same, showing the one having a red/orange photo filter to it so it basically had this fake orange sky.

Also, who is to say that the two pictures I posted were the same?

[hagbard_celine]

@Hagbard,

these seem to be the official Apollo 16 images.

Funnily they are not acknowledged to show anything like an entrance or something but just cloudforms over northpole (see how ridiculous the elite presents things?)

No mention that all efforts are being done to hide this from 6bl. people.

@sidreighn,

you're wasting your time. Noone really cares to give posts like that a second thought.




Here are some eleged pictures of the other (hollow)planets in our solarsystem.

http://www.holloworbs.com/real_m7.jpg

http://science.nasa.gov/images/mars_hst_big.jpg

From NASA gov (the confirmed space faker)
Why not photoshop over those clouds a little more and close the hole? ;)

One site claims that the inner mars sun is lighting up the clouds from inside.

Probably every single one of the real photos is edited and filtered so many times until it appears on the internet since it's all NASA's. But NASA really doesn't expect people to expect the earth to be hollow!

Aurora Borealis is the most real proof one should be aware of.

I suppose if the Earth was hollow then it's quite likely that the other planets are too. Unless there's a reason why the Earth would be the odd one out.:confused:

[xpleet]

Maybe just look at it that way.

There has never been a non-hollow molton-core planet.

The moon is hollow aswell. We had stuff crashing on the moon and it rang like a bell.

Richard Hoagland! We love you :)

[hagbard_celine]

Are we already not the odd one out in our solar system?


In some ways. We're the only planet with large amounts of liquid water, the only one that geologically active (unless someone sees a volcanic eruption on Venus). Who knows?:confused:

[quickening666]

A book I never see mentioned in discussion about this topic is Alec Maclellan's "The Lost World Of Agharti". It's a really interesting book which details the myths and legends associated with the "inner earth" and its place in our history. He also wrote a book called "The Hollow Earth Enigma" but it disappointed me because it was basically a reitteration of the former.

[chandrakavi]

A book I never see mentioned in discussion about this topic is Alec Maclellan's "The Lost World Of Agharti". It's a really interesting book which details the myths and legends associated with the "inner earth" and its place in our history. He also wrote a book called "The Hollow Earth Enigma" but it disappointed me because it was basically a reitteration of the former.

That must have been the book that was translated to spanish, LATIERRA HUECA,
(The hollow earth enigma) and for some strange reason all the copies were burned
don't remeber if it was in mexico, but it was in south america. The editor was left with only one or two copies. Why interested in burning this book? After all very few people have
this information, or is this discussed, for or against. Why take the trouble to hide the information?

[guuna]

Sorry i have mentioned this once before on a different Thread, but Polar explorer Feinnes has named his dog Thule, rather strange I would have thought.

The alledged entarances to the inner earth are many hundreds of miles in diametre, so one can supposedly enter and be virtually unaware until one comes across land not on the map. I did hear some time ago about a chain of islands in North artic Canada that show up on some older maps but have now been explained away as ' old age exploration ice-mirages' or similar.

I wonder if Putins' recent Polar claims have any bearing on claiming sole access to the inner earth, much as Byrds in '47.:confused:

[guuna]

grasping for straws



so you shoouldn't speculate ?




doing some speculationg of your own (making you quite the hypocrite). i wouldn't be one of them, as i can think for myself. i use my rationality, intelligence and knowledge (esoteric and ordinary), trying not to be caught up in whatever paradigm, wether it be icke'ism or whatever religious dogma.



i called you an ass, because you deconstructed my post, robbed it of meaning, reversed it to make a pretty lame point. a point you have just failed to live up to yourself. thank you for that.



no, you don't love me, you're being passive aggressive - envigorated/aroused by the fact that hagbard is "on your" side, hoping that i would be annoyed, and that's malevolenct, and kinda knocks you off the piedestal you are trying to put yourself on to (2nd time in 1 post).

and if you really really really love me, then you don't have a clue about what love is.

Strange UMBREX that you are so very concerned with this 'Hollow earth' junk, if that's really your opinion.

I reckon that Denmark knows more than it's letting on, especially since you guys own Greenland, close to the mystery indeed. :p

[nikolaijovanovic]

I've not posted on here for a while (Being reprogammed by the 'Powers that be' :D not sure who to vote for now, Admiral Bird or John McCain? ), so it is refreshing that this hilarious thread has not died.

Have we any proof now that the world is a 'Great Big Onion' or are we still at the 'Melon infused with Vodka' part of the debate?

[nikolaijovanovic]

I would also like to point out here that just because something cannot be physically proved does not mean that it does not exist.

Perhaps. Although if it is a phsyicality it will (Don't argue, it will - so long as you have enough time to observe 'normal' behaviour.) affect other physicalities, therefore can be demonstrated to exist.

[nikolaijovanovic]

..:D

.

*rings the bells* Because everything on earth is by design *rings the bells*.

Nothing evolved here nor came it by coincidence.

Utter testicles. Are you for one minute suggesting that an 'infinate' wisdom could come up with anything as complex and wonderous as evolution?

[kblood]

I suppose if the Earth was hollow then it's quite likely that the other planets are too. Unless there's a reason why the Earth would be the odd one out.:confused:

Yes, either our planet is the odd one out or all planets are hollow or will become hollow. If our planet is as hollow as the hollow earth map shows.

My theory about why our planet might be hollow while others arent is that it might be part of what civilisation does to a planet. In fact, I believe that the final stage of a planet with an advanced civilisation might in fact be the Halo ring from the Halo game series. As I see it that ring could be a likely way to prolong the life a planet quite alot. The reason it became hollow to begin with, I believe is linked with aliens and possible timetravel. ETs probably knew how suitable a place Earth would become for life, and therefore some could have made the inside of our planet a place for them at some point. Some say that the "gray" aliens live on the dark side of the moon, or inside it.

[biblegirl]

So what do you know about hollow earth? I am a believer. I put this in the "history rewritten" section because I feel totally ripped off on this subject (among other things). I grew up in a so called advanced private school, but never once was the subject of what is in the earth of question. It was just, FACT: science books say the earth is full of lava. Period. School...what a disappointment. But school is another subject altogether.

I will try to dig up all my hollow earth links and post them here. This is one of my favorite subjects. :D

[scandal girl]

i don't know, as a prominent gold-digger ,i feel there is a lots of gold, so - not hollow :o

[chattanova]

I don't know much about the subject but here is one good thread on it http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6102&highlight=hollow+earth

and here a interesting article http://itpro.no/art/12829.html

http://img27.picoodle.com/data/img27/3/9/2/f_jordaaghartm_17848e1.jpg

[biblegirl]

Oops, I looked but I couldn't find a thread already on this. Thanks Chattanova. :)

[biblegirl]

BUMP

Just reviving this thread. :)

[sebastian]

So what do you know about hollow earth? I am a believer. I put this in the "history rewritten" section because I feel totally ripped off on this subject (among other things). I grew up in a so called advanced private school, but never once was the subject of what is in the earth of question. It was just, FACT: science books say the earth is full of lava. Period. School...what a disappointment. But school is another subject altogether.

I will try to dig up all my hollow earth links and post them here. This is one of my favorite subjects. :D

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/aurora_img_2005254.jpg

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/HollowEarth.jpg



Is the Earth Hollow?

This intriguing question has attracted the attention of free thinkers, scientists and a wide assortment of crackpots back through the ages.

The most ancient of stories of modern mankind can be found written on the clay tablets of Mesopotamia. Two, "Gilgamesh" (Table XII) and "The Descent of Ishtar to the Underworld", are about adventures among different kinds of creatures inside the earth. 1

Plato wrote of enormous subterranean tunnels both broad and narrow that made up the earth’s interior. Dr. Edmond Halley, of comet fame, believed that all heavenly bodies were hollow and in a speech before the members of the Royal Society of London stated,

"Beneath the crust of the Earth, which is 500 feet thick, is a hollow void". Then there was Leonard Euler (1707-1783), noted mathematician and one of the founders of higher mathematics. He stated that, "mathematically the Earth has to be hollow". He also believed there "was a center sun inside the Earth’s interior, which provided daylight to a splendid subterranean civilization." 2

Next came Captain John Cleves Symmes, war hero of the War of 1812. Once his studies led him to believe in a Hollow Earth, he used his knowledge to convince James McBride, a Miami Ohio millionaire. Mr. McBride used his political connections to Rep. Richard M. Johnson (D) of Kentucky [later vice-president under Van Buren 1837-18411] to petition congress to finance an expedition to claim the lands inside the earth for the U.S. The petition, by a vote of 56-46 was tabled. 3

The Hollow Earth was next theorized by William Reed in his 1906 book "The Phantom of The Poles". Based on his studies of early Arctic explorations and scientific evidence, he states that the Earth is not solid as widely believed, but hollow with openings at both ends. In the summary of his revolutionary theory, Reed states:

"The Earth is hollow. The Poles, so long sought, are phantoms. There are openings at the northern and southern extremities. In the interior are vast continents, oceans, mountains and rivers. Vegetable and animal life are evident in this New World and it is probably peopled by races unknown to dwellers on the Earth’s surface". 4

Marshall B. Gardner reached the same conclusions after 20 years of researched and published his finding in "A Journey to the Earth’s Interior, or, Have the Poles Really Been Discovered" in 1913, revised 1920. He was unaware of Reed or his theory at the time. Mr. Gardner puts forth the argument that neither Cook nor Peary reached the True North Pole since, according to the theory, it does not exist. Mr. Gardner states:

"Scientific societies that considered Cook’s and Peary’s claims concluded that in neither case could it be said authoritatively that the explorer had reached the pole". 5

This controversy still exists today.

Science fiction writers have had a field day with the theory. Jules Verne’s "Journey to the Center of the Earth, Edgar Rice Borrough’s "Tarzan at the Earth’s Core" and scores of other authors have let their talents run wild in the Inner World. Grade-B film makers know a good theme when they find one also.

Then there are those people who claim to have visited the interior of our planet. Olaf Janson’s "The Smoky God", is one such story that comes to mind.


Another is "EDIDORPHA or The End Of The Earth" by John Uri Lloyd published in 1895.

Ray Palmer was one of the first researchers and reporters on the UFO scene during the 50s and 60s. In his ground breaking publications "Flying Saucers" and Search Magazine he speculated that, because UFOs have been seen in earth’s sky throughout history , they may very well be from our earth, in fact, evidence seemed to indicate that UFOs could very well come from a subterranean world inside our earth.

Then on the cover of "Flying Saucers" magazine issue #69 - June 1970 and in issue #92 of "Search Magazine" published in July of 1970, the late Mr. Palmer published a photo that is still a controversy. Excerpts from his Editorial in the above mentioned "Flying Saucers" magazine tell it best:

"On the cover this month we reproduce the most remarkable photo ever made. It was taken by the ESSA-7 satellite on November 23, 1968 the North Pole photo lacking clouds in the polar area, therefore reveals the surface of the planet. Although, surrounding the polar area, and north of such areas as the North American continent and Greenland and the Asian continent, we can see the ice-fields 8-foot thick ice we do not see any ice fields in a large circular area directly at the geographic pole. Instead we see THE HOLE!" 6

In 1981 I came into possession of another group of NASA photos showing earth from deep in space which, not only substantiates the ESSA-7 photos, but adds weight to another feature of the hollow earth theory.

At this point any practical person will start to ask themselves, if this is all true why isn’t it common and accepted knowledge. As Ray Palmer said in one of his articles:

" A government that will not tell you what they know about UFOs would certainly keep the origin of then a secret".

Then there are those researchers who say some of us spend entirely too much time looking at the poles.

"Certain researchers swear the earth is shaped like a giant doughnut and that holes at the poles provide an entrance into the inner lands. "Not so!" shouts another group. "Entrance to the interior world can be gained only by entering a cave and discovering the subterranean tunnels.""

Most of the people who claim to have visited the inner lands arrive there through old mine shafts, caves and subterranean tunnels. Others claim to have traveled through extent volcanoes. There is good solid evidence supporting all these theories. Evidence also supports the possibility of other hidden entrances to the inner realms in The Bermuda Triangle and other strange areas around the world. 7

One of these areas of interest in the Pacific Northwestern area of the United States. It was in this area that the name "Flying Saucers" was first heard.

"On June 24, 1947, Kenneth Arnold, a businessman and commercial pilot from Boise, Idaho, was flying past Mount Rainier, in Mount Rainier National Park, State of Washington, when he sighted a strange formation of nine luminous saucer-shaped objects. He related this unusual experience to newsmen and news of the mysterious objects dubbed "flying saucers" was spread nationwide". 8

UFOs are quite common in the area. In fact the thousands of miles of untrodden land that makes up the extreme Northwestern part of America hides many unexplained mysteries. This is the land of "Bigfoot" or "Sasquatch" as the local Native Americans call him. In connection with our research into different possibilities we offer the following interesting story which was reported in the January 1975 issue of "Saga" by B. Ann Slate:

"In April 1974, Psychic Joyce Partise of Southern California held a sealed envelope in her hands. Unknown to her, that envelope contained a photograph of a Sasquatch footprint {Ms Partise said] "These things are coming from outer space - it’s an outer space war! The first area will be Portland, Oregon. There’s a mountain with a hole in it. Someone should investigate this mountain because they’re down in there already. You know those hairy things that run around, the ape man? He’s not an ape. They’re underground, in contact with outer space and their intentions toward mankind is total destruction!.. this gorilla man - there’s a civilization of thousands of them their eyes are extremely light sensitive from being underground. These tunnels I’m seeing is part of their habitation. They’ve dug them. I think it may even go into California" 9

Just south of the Oregon - California border the snow-capped peak of mysterious Mt. Shasta keeps her secrets. Locally there are whispers of certain merchants quietly doing business, for gold, with strange young looking men with piercing blue eyes wearing unusual clothing and footwear, who mysteriously, upon completing their business fade away into the wilderness. Are these mysterious consumers from the legendary underground city of "Telos" said to exist under Mt. Shasta? Could they actually be descendants of the lost continent of "Lemuria". Could the strange men seen in the small communities of the area be on a "munchies run" for their underground friends?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/earthinterior/contents.htm

[sebastian]

http://antarctica.greyfalcon.us/pictures/hole2.jpg

http://pwg.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/outreach/images/Earth/geocorona.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~axleplus/mir/blog/hearth1.jpg

[scandal girl]

omg, as a kid, i always thought if this was possible to drill a hole trough the world and what would happen if somebody would jump in it, would they end-op at the different side of the world or no

then as a teen, i thought it would be good Disneyland attraction- build a mega-train trough earth


p.s. cant believe a pictures- maybe a photoshop

[jayelowell]

Could plasma produce gravity? could the center of our earth be it's own little sun? it's own black whole...
or the center of its own universe!!!

[chattanova]

Oops, I looked but I couldn't find a thread already on this. Thanks Chattanova. :)

I don't think that matter, a subject like this do deserve more that one thread really :)

[sebastian]

omg, as a kid, i always thought if this was possible to drill a hole trough the world and what would happen if somebody would jump in it, would they end-op at the different side of the world or no

then as a teen, i thought it would be good Disneyland attraction- build a mega-train trough earth


p.s. cant believe a pictures- maybe a photoshop


OF COURSE:rolleyes:

Anything they did not mention in world geography or geology in school IS prolly photoshopped ....

[sebastian]

Yes, either our planet is the odd one out or all planets are hollow or will become hollow. If our planet is as hollow as the hollow earth map shows.

My theory about why our planet might be hollow while others arent is that it might be part of what civilisation does to a planet. In fact, I believe that the final stage of a planet with an advanced civilisation might in fact be the Halo ring from the Halo game series. As I see it that ring could be a likely way to prolong the life a planet quite alot. The reason it became hollow to begin with, I believe is linked with aliens and possible timetravel. ETs probably knew how suitable a place Earth would become for life, and therefore some could have made the inside of our planet a place for them at some point. Some say that the "gray" aliens live on the dark side of the moon, or inside it.

ALL planets are hollow.

no exceptions

moons and planetoids too

foremost planets are meant to be inhabited inside where the central sun can provide perfect conditions

[chattanova]

Steve Currey a hollow earth researcher was going to set an expedition to the north pole to look after the entrance, but the trip got cancalled when he died.
http://www.voyagehollowearth.com/

Suspicious.. Is there anyone familiar to this that know the story ?

[biblegirl]

Anything they did not mention in world geography or geology in school IS prolly photoshopped ....

he he, so that explains it! :p

[sebastian]

Steve Currey a hollow earth researcher was going to set an expedition to the north pole to look after the entrance, but the trip got cancalled when he died.
http://www.voyagehollowearth.com/

Suspicious.. Is there anyone familiar to this that know the story ?

all these kinda trips were hoaxes

noone will ever get close to the entrances ...as they are heavily guarded ...

[kblood]

I am also becomming more and more convinced about the Hollow Earth.

Physicist Nassim Haramein (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32453) also believes in the Hollow Earth, and compares planets to atoms. Atoms are basicly small balls, that are mostly empty space, with a center that is called a nucleus and is much smaller than the atom, which is most of all an energy field in which magnetic or electrostatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom#Mass

More about atoms.

So basicly from what I understood most of the atom is photons and electrons making an energy field. The center is a very small part by seems to be making the whole.

So Earth might have a center which is basicly a sun. Seems the wiki page got links to sites comparing atoms to a sun or star. So it could be that the surface of our planet is simply the mass that has gone in orbit around the center. If two objects in space collide, it doesnt seem the most likely outcome is for them to merge into one, maybe except if one is much bigger than the other. So they either crash and gets blown into smaller pieces, goes into orbit around each other, or just change course a bit.

Well, just my thoughts on it. I got a few more links, but cant find them atm.

[chattanova]

all these kinda trips were hoaxes

noone will ever get close to the entrances ...as they are heavily guarded ...

Yes I second that, if there is a entrance at all, this picture is 'supposedly' taken from where it should be, don't know what to make of it..
Anyway HE could be very possible, we thought the earth was flat for a while and if they wanted us to still believe I guess they could.

''There is no hole in the North Pole....'' http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2661&highlight=icebraker

http://img27.picoodle.com/data/img27/3/9/2/f_northpole4m_adba4c1.jpg

[jayelowell]

I am also becomming more and more convinced about the Hollow Earth.

Physicist Nassim Haramein (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32453) also believes in the Hollow Earth, and compares planets to atoms. Atoms are basicly small balls, that are mostly empty space, with a center that is called a nucleus and is much smaller than the atom, which is most of all an energy field in which magnetic or electrostatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom#Mass

More about atoms.

So basicly from what I understood most of the atom is photons and electrons making an energy field. The center is a very small part by seems to be making the whole.

So Earth might have a center which is basicly a sun. Seems the wiki page got links to sites comparing atoms to a sun or star. So it could be that the surface of our planet is simply the mass that has gone in orbit around the center. If two objects in space collide, it doesnt seem the most likely outcome is for them to merge into one, maybe except if one is much bigger than the other. So they either crash and gets blown into smaller pieces, goes into orbit around each other, or just change course a bit.

Well, just my thoughts on it. I got a few more links, but cant find them atm.the Original question has been answered!!!
thank you kblood!

[biblegirl]

Some interesting things that might correlate to hollow earth:

This quote is from Credo Mutwa about Satan:

"It is said, sir, the Umbaba ran away from an eastern land during a power struggle with one of his sons, and he took refuge in Central Africa, where he hides in a cave, deep underground. And it is an amazing thing, sir-it is said that under the Mountains of the Moon in Zaire is this great city of copper, of many thousands of shining buildings. There dwells the god Umbaba or Jabulon."

Now, Isaiah 14:4-17 about when Satan will be destroyed (the brackets are my opinions):

"...take up this proverb against the king of Babylon [Satan], and say, how hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!...hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming...the chief ones of the earth [illuminati]...they shall say unto thee, art thou also become weak as we? art thou become unto us?...how art thou fallen from heaven o lucifer...yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, is this the man that did shake kingdoms; that made the world as wilderness and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners [underground bases]?"

Revelation 9:2 prophecy:

"and he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace [reminds me of Phil Schneider's account as he dug into the deactivated base]"

Jonah 2:2, 6 after Jonah drowned inside the whale:

"out of the belly of hell cried I...I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever:"

[tom bombadil]

Hi all.

Some of the migratery stuff done by birds and animals might be explaind by a book ( mentioned in Icke book, and the reson I bought it) called When the Earth Nearly Died. by D.S Allan & J.B Delair. Gateway Books. First though, it is not an advocate one way or t'other in a hollow earth. It main bed-fellow is the way we have been told a falsehood over the years that needs changing due to new and old (but largly ignored) evidance.

In a (hollow) nutshell it says that a good 11.500yrs ago, a planetoid or 'other' passed so close to the earth that it not only dragged a load of stella crap with it as it came into our system, but nicked stuff from our local planets and dumped some on earth. It then went off to be sucked in by the sun.

It provides evidence from the same kind of sources that gave us our earths geological history, so can be 'belived' with the same creadence as any official line.

It does cover things like verbal and 'writen' historical evidance too. It gives us a version of events that cover your stuff biblegirl, but it said also that that stuff was/is to be covered in another book.

It also, in a roundabout way, will explain why the holes could be somewhere else (a shift in the stable balance that was in existance for eons) and in my oppinion, explains a load of stuff as to axis shifting (to be) in the presant day, as one can put 2 & 2 together and get a good 4.


To cover the movements of birds and beasts, it suggests that if you concider that the world bulged (and still does only in a different place) in the midrift as it spinned/spins, then, if the point of spinning changed, [axil shift or totlal reversel] something that is very hard to do (and in my oppinion wants to return to) then a load of land is gonna want to go and re-order itself all over the shop, causing mega sunamis and loads of mess.

Those that survived, man and beast and flowers alike, will then emerge and do their best. Quite literaly, this is what happened to some as they were saved in one way or t'other by land slides that stopped them from drowning, others being 'somehow' warned, built big boats, others were just lucky.

now concidering that there was a good civalisation base at the time and the land was a generaly a good place to be, then we have to also assume that the birds and the bees had their heads screwed on too. They had places to go and birds especialy knew the lay of the land.

Oops, suddenly it all changed and old land masses went under while new stuff came up (relitivly speaking considering the sloshing and splashing of water) and the birds had to reliey on old routes that where no longer there. Well old habits die hard, and the poor litle buggers (in some cases) are still going on long trips all over the place.

To explain the plant life in the hard snow at the poles. Remember the shifting of land masses? Well the book also suggests that there is very good evidence (remember, the same evidance that we all know and love) to tell us that the planet was quite stable, ecologicly-wise, to have masses of sucsesfull plant life growing on both poles. As the 'event' took place then lots of freezing went on and held for prosperity the facts we have now.


That was the science, now the speculation. If there was/is a hole in the north then it would have shifted (11.500yrs ago) and as we dont know the lay of the land 'under' the earth, that is, on the reverse of our maps, then we can assume that it fucked-up there too. The hole might at times be visable and navigateable when conditions allow. At other times it will be blocked by water. There is every proof that suggests this theory, so it might be a matter of waiting for that 'fifty year tide'.

On the south polar reogions. No reserch has been done on this one so I cant comment, other than to say that that hole should have only been effected with land slides rather than flood, bit who nows where all that water went, and for all we know, there could be a sea now at the other side, and a bung of ice on this.


Tom.

[sebastian]

http://a301.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_8edc96daf7ed0b829e85094863d7a1c4.jpg

[jayelowell]

One of the ideas I have been studying lately, for the human race to survive eventual cataclysmic events, is an idea for us to build underground cities. Something ala what Zion in "The Matrix" trilogy. While exploring this I heard about discoveries of underground cavesystems. While exploring these they found underground cities. My source didnt say wether it was abandonded or not, but who knows? We could have "inter"terrestials in a more literal sense than David Icke tells us.

Seems to be covered up though. Havent been able to find anything about underground places where people might have lived. And if it is covered up...

Other things I think is worth noting. I think I have read about planets that sometimes "evolve" into a sun. I think some planets is close to the state of becoming a sun. So about the "being a sun" inside of Earth being against the laws of physics: Well, the laws of physics are sometimes subject to change. That a planets core is magma is a theory the way I see it. Yes, volcanoes sprout lava, but if we had a sun inside our planet, then wouldnt it be logical that it melts stone and whatever else there is in the Earth. If there is a world inside Earth, it might not be defying the laws of physics. It just defies how we believe planets to be. The way I see it, the "sun" they have in an underground world, would simply be a sun below them, instead of above them, unless they are beings with a very different molecular structure than ours... f.ex. gas based, but I think that would defy the laws of physics... I guess. We are still learning what makes the world turn, and what drives the Universe, as I see it. What we now know is vast, but what is left to learn is probably...vaster :p

here's a thread about a underground tunnels in missouri
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33968&highlight=missouri

[axel]

http://a301.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_8edc96daf7ed0b829e85094863d7a1c4.jpg


Where did this image come from?

I'm just reading Journey to the Center of the Earth for the first time, and I have to say I find the idea of a hollow earth very intriguing. I'm looking forward to learning more.

[sloughi]

Any one ever peered into a deep cavern to find anything?

[pali_gap]

Can someone explain why we cant see south pole and north too on Google earth:confused:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2166/holln1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By nunchakuman (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/nunchakuman)

[sebastian]

you ca't see them because there are the entrances to inner Earth ....

also that's the reason they tell you you cannot fly over the north pole ...not the magnetic disturbance crap

[kblood]

here's a thread about a underground tunnels in missouri
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33968&highlight=missouri

Thanks :)

I have been looking for something about underground tunnel networks, and even though the Internet provides all this information, its very hard to find something about underground cave systems.

edit: Okay there is a bit here: Cave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Still the place I heard of having a cave system that might have or had a civilisation in it was to be near Mount Everest somewhere. So somewhere in the Himalayan mountains I guess?

After having researched the Hollow Earth theory some more it does seem likely that all planets and moons are hollow, an effect of their magnetic field and the way they rotate and fly through space.

Very nice find about the lack of real photos of the north and south pole :)

[rhydra]

There is supposed to be a deep cave in Portugal that people have gone into and never come out of. How much is true or a story to frighten curious children I'm not sure.

[sebastian]

There is supposed to be a deep cave in Portugal that people have gone into and never come out of. How much is true or a story to frighten curious children I'm not sure.

yes ... it's an access to inner earth .. they ussually encounter reptilians in colored robes and are offed ussually on the spot then consumed .

[astrochicken]

yes ... it's an access to inner earth .. they ussually encounter reptilians in colored robes and are offed ussually on the spot then consumed .


Not unlike the hypogaeum on malta

[kreesurgeon]

Does the earth being hollow theory fit with the expanding earth theory?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI

[jayelowell]

Does the earth being hollow theory fit with the expanding earth theory?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQII would say so...

[hagbard_celine]

you ca't see them because there are the entrances to inner Earth ....

also that's the reason they tell you you cannot fly over the north pole ...not the magnetic disturbance crap


Funny you should say that because you can't fly over the poles in Microsoft Flight Simulator.:confused: If you have the game, try it! Take a fast jet, like the 747 or the Bombadier Learjet, and fly due north from the game's most northerly airport: Hammerfest in Norway. Let me know what you see when you get to the north pole! It might make you question everything you were taught in school about the Earth being a solid sphere.

[sebastian]

Funny you should say that because you can't fly over the poles in Microsoft Flight Simulator.:confused: If you have the game, try it! Take a fast jet, like the 747 or the Bombadier Learjet, and fly due north from the game's most northerly airport: Hammerfest in Norway. Let me know what you see when you get to the north pole! It might make you question everything you were taught in school about the Earth being a solid sphere.

funny you mention that ...It does not surprize me a bit ...

they think of EVERYTHING

eart like every other celestial body is born through the same proces

sun spits lava/plasma jet

the ball keeps spinnin due to magnetic forces

centrifugal forces push the interior towards the exterior ....

a crust is formed

crust has molten rock and lava trapped inside in pockets

there's a little of the original left in the center , it becomes the inner sun

[rhydra]

The map on google earth should treat the poles like any point on the planet, it is indeed suspicious why they look like a point radiating outwards.

[father ted]

Not unlike the hypogaeum on malta

Swerdlow had said (If I remmember correctly) that Malta has a big entrance to the inner Earth.

That is why one of the main illuminati factions are called the knights of Malta.

Why would such a powerfull group have themselves named after such a small location? Could be othe reasons of course, but there maybe something in that.

[astrochicken]

All roads lead to rome, but the tunnels lead to malta,

Look at it's location as well: twixt Rom,Greece,Karthago,Egypt


There's more to malta than meets the eye.

The "Sovereign Order of Malta" even has permanent observer status at the United Nations... i mean WTF?

[sebastian]

Swerdlow had said (If I remmember correctly) that Malta has a big entrance to the inner Earth.

That is why one of the main illuminati factions are called the knights of Malta.

Why would such a powerfull group have themselves named after such a small location? Could be othe reasons of course, but there maybe something in that.

For us humans is very difficult to understand reptilians because their whole society runs on hierarchy and mindcontrol...hive consciousness almost ...


The rulling caste , the winged dracos, ciakars, the albinos, they are the only ones resembling any type of individuality at all.

their society is therefore extremely dogmatic, religious and compartimentalized.

By the way, fucking up your duties means death by consumption , so basically if you step outof line you are eaten alive ..

This sort of info I have from someone who merged his mind with a reptilian during a process to be transformed in a shapeshifter .

Needles to say the process failed later .

But the info from within a reptilian consciousnessis priceless and it helps me understand their predatory/parasite nature better ...

[jayelowell]

The map on google earth should treat the poles like any point on the planet, it is indeed suspicious why they look like a point radiating outwards.agreed!!!

[them]

David Icke states in THE BIGGEST SECRET, that many years ago many people seriously believed ,AND OTHERS STILL DO, that the earth IS Hollow(also see in youtube THE HOLLOW EARTH.) The Nazis, the writer Jules Verne(iniate of of the secret society with Connections to order of teh godlen dawn and others. it is said the earth has entrances at the poles saying a base was established in the Antartica, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who flew there with his entire USA crew,
David icke recommends reading the book THE HOLLOW EARTH by Dr. Raymond
Bernard as a summary of the evidence. It is said that the outer crust goes down 800 miles and beyond that the planet is hollow.
Also the unanswered question : why are iceberg made of fresh water , when the only water available at the poles is sea water?There rare fresh
water rivers out of the inner Earth forming the fresh water icebergs.

Ray Palmer believed that UFOs came not from space ,they came from the inner earth(hollow earth).

There is an inner sun , clouds, animals, which in the winter migrate to the north, to where it's warmer.

so there are people living inside this same earth, in the hollow earth,
miles under our feet ,and we are not supposed to know about it,
wouldn't believe it either, but Admiral Byrd and witnesses were there to see it. Reality is stranger than fiction.
The Roman writer, GAIUS PLINIUS SECUNDUS, known as Pliny,
refers to underground peoples who had fled from Atlantis ,
also legends of the Inner Earth dwellers called the Troglodytes who, Pliny said, have hidden in their tunnels a great ancient treasure.

This (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2661) is a thread you might find interesting.

http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08420/ickething408.jpg

[mynameis]

Huge Mountain Range Should Not Be There
livescience.com – Tue Oct 21, 10:21 am ET

An Antarctic mountain range that rivals the Alps in elevation will be probed this month by an expedition of scientists using airborne radar and other Information Age tools to virtually "peel away" more than 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) of ice covering the peaks.

One of the mysteries of the mountain range is that current evidence suggests that it "shouldn't be there" at all.

The researchers hope to find answers there to some basic questions about the nature of the southernmost continent, including the massive East Antarctic Ice Sheet. For instance, it is unclear how Antarctica came to be ice-covered in the first place and whether that process began millions of years ago in the enigmatic Gamburtsev Mountain range.

Working every day at extreme altitudes, in 24 hours of sunlight and at temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius, the researchers of the Antarctica's Gamburtsev Province (AGAP) team hope to learn whether the Gamburtsevs were born of tectonic activity in Antarctica or date from a period millions of years ago, when Antarctica was the center of an enormous supercontinent located at far lower latitudes.

Robin Bell of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, who shares the leadership of the U.S. science effort, said AGAP will help scientists understand one of Antarctica's last major mysteries.

"Because the heart of East Antarctica is so difficult to get to, we know very little about it," she said. "We think also that there's a strong possibility that the mountains are the birthplace of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Over 30 million years ago ice began to grow around the peaks, eventually burying the range and its surrounding lakes.

AGAP involves researchers and support personnel from Australia, China, Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States. It caps the global scientific deployment known as the International Polar Year (IPY), the largest coordinated international scientific effort in 50 years.

The Gamburtsevs were discovered by a Soviet traverse during the last IPY in 1957-58 that was known as the International Geophysical Year (IGY). Since then the region has been largely untouched.

Traveling deep into the Antarctic interior, more than 390 miles (630 kilometers) from the South Pole, the science teams will be based at a pair of remote field camps while they complete the first major geophysical survey to map the mysterious landscape.

The U.S. research teams, from Columbia, Pennsylvania State University, Washington University in St. Louis, the Center for Remote Sensing of Ice Sheets at the University of Kansas, the Incorporated Research Institutions in Seismology and the U.S. Geological Survey, are supported by the National Science Foundation, which manages all U.S. research on the southernmost continent through the U.S. Antarctic Program. NSF also is the lead U.S. agency for IPY.

Aircraft supported by the NSF and the British Antarctic Survey, which is leading the United Kingdom's contribution to the AGAP effort, are specially equipped with ice-penetrating radar technology, gravimeter and magnetic field sensors and will fly survey lines over an area more than twice the size of California.

The scientists will eventually create a coordinated mosaic of images of the shallowest layers in the ice sheet to regions hundreds of kilometers beneath the hidden mountains, in effect creating a 3-D map of the vast and unexplored region, Bell said.

Researchers from Washington University and Penn State will contribute to the fieldwork by using seismic recordings of earthquakes to create images of the crust and mantle beneath the mountain range.

In addition to the scientists of the six participating nations, AGAP requires a total of nine aircraft, the establishment of two deep-field science camps, and support from the U.S. Amundsen-Scott South Pole and McMurdo research stations, as well as from the Australian Antarctic Davis Station and the British Antarctic Survey's Rothera Research Station.

Science and support teams on a Chinese tractor train from a base called Zhongshan Station to Dome A (the highest ice feature in Antarctica) will sample ice cores. Field depot camps and three other logistics support stations will ensure that food, fuel, supplies and equipment and people are in the right place at the right time.

"This project is a major undertaking for IPY," said Karl A. Erb, the director of the NSF's Office of Polar Programs. "No one nation could do this alone. International collaboration for both the science and logistics elements is absolutely essential."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081021/sc_livescience/hugemountainrangeshouldnotbethere

[kblood]

Nice find mynameis :) The article is from 2008 by the way. I was wondering since it doesnt have a year in its date on the article, but following the link it shows that it is from this year.

[guuna]

Putin's recent 'land grab' of the north polar regions does i suspect have an awful lot to do with the north polar entrance being guarded.

I suspect anyone getting to close now will find Russian fighter planes prepared to blow them away.

Speaking of polar expeditions to the hollow earth, wasn't there also one proposed some years ago with the expedition planning to use an actual dirigable airship/ blimp. Needless to say the whole (hole?) thing never came to fruition.

[hagbard_celine]

Putin's recent 'land grab' of the north polar regions does i suspect have an awful lot to do with the north polar entrance being guarded.

I suspect anyone getting to close now will find Russian fighter planes prepared to blow them away.

Speaking of polar expeditions to the hollow earth, wasn't there also one proposed some years ago with the expedition planning to use an actual dirigable airship/ blimp. Needless to say the whole (hole?) thing never came to fruition.

There was one expedition in the 1930's where Germany sent an airship to the North Pole; it dropped a Swastika on the place where the North Pole is supposed to be!;)

The Nazis were very into ancient myths and trying to find out of there was any truth behind them. Maybe this ariship went elsewhere and we weren't told about it.:confused:

[juttkeys]

I do think there is a black hole at the centre of the earth (and the sun, moon planets stars and galaxys for that matter.)
And didnt one of the apollo missions let its lunar module crash into the moon and seismic instruments found it to reverberate like a bell for hours after?

[lordzoma]

Jutt you're insane. There is NO black hole in the center of our planet. If there was, we would be inside it. That's how black holes work.

[hagbard_celine]

There's a central sun, not a black hole. But there could be a black hole at the centre of the Milky Way.

[kblood]

There's a central sun, not a black hole. But there could be a black hole at the centre of the Milky Way.

Black holes are a theory. Since they havent been proven yet (but might be soon), then all we really know is that we dont really know what a black hole really is. I believe that a collapsed red dwarf or whatever it is that is supposed to create a black hole us just leaving behind what was already there, just out in the open, making it different than when it was inside a planet or star. Planets can become stars and stars can become black holes.

[rhydra]

There are places where one can gain access other than the poles are there? Maybe even in Britain?

[father ted]

A black hole doesn't explain the auroara's. You have to also look at how a black hole would also affect gravity, tides etc.

[lordzoma]

Black Holes are not a theory and have already been proven. I suppose no one in this thread purports to know much of anything about astrophysics.

Black hole in the center of our galaxy was proven over 3 years ago.

[juttkeys]

Jutt you're insane. There is NO black hole in the center of our planet. If there was, we would be inside it. That's how black holes work.

Insane??
how would we be inside it??? it would be similar scale as the black hole in the centre of our galaxy is to the entire galaxy itself, thus following your logic we should also be inside the one at the centre of our milky way too by now.
No my friend, it would depend on the size of its shwartzchild radius (SR), which to scale would be about the diameter of a golf ball, probably even smaller I dunno. If, as some people believe that there is a 'sun' at the centre of our planet then fine the black hole would be inside that.
Also at the centre of an atom the black hole/SR would be miniscule, the size of a few planks length maybe, this I think would be the force which holds the positively charged particles together which make up the nucleus and stops them flying apart or repelling each other (which by the way they should do) The electron/s in turn being at a relative (albiet quantized) distance to the nucleus as the earths crust/atmosphere/moon is to its central SR... and the planet/s to the sun....and the sun and other clusters of stars to the galactic black hole.... THATS how black holes work. IMO :)
As above, so below...

But if Im insane as you are so sure, I'll happily hear your thoughts out.
I didnt say I was right, just what I think/believe.
And its ridiculous to call someone 'insane' just because of their beliefs, for all you know I could be right ! Who knows?
People who thought the earth was round not long ago were insane too as Im sure you well know ;)

[lordzoma]

A black hole is NOT in the center of our planet.

[astrochicken]

Just browsing through the bbc's online propaganda site i came across this article.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7720049.stm

Reportedly about a lost nuclear warhead in antarctica the fact that it is the
THULE US airport base in the region of THULE makes one wonder why the
THULE Society is called what it is.

This is where i'd start if i was looking for an entrance

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45191000/gif/_45191819_greenland_thule_1011_08.gif

LOL.. the THULE Airforce Base is home to
1. The 12th Space Warning Squadron
2. The 21st Space Wing
3. The 22d Space Operations Squadron
4. part of the 50th Space Wing

It's also home to "Camp Century" (http://www.whoi.edu/beaufortgyre/history/history_dew.html)

[kblood]

Black Holes are not a theory and have already been proven. I suppose no one in this thread purports to know much of anything about astrophysics.

Black hole in the center of our galaxy was proven over 3 years ago.

Quite a bit about science today is guessing and estimation, especially when it comes to this stuff. Its not like they can sample the black hole that probably is in the center of our galaxy, but it doesnt prove the actuall physics of the black hole, doesnt prove that they are all consuming. In fact if a black hole is the center of our galaxy, and it is still growing, then it seems even more likely that one could exist in the center of our planet as well, since the "proven" one hasnt consumed our galaxy.

[lordzoma]

RadioTelescopes observered a star fall into the acretion disk and spiral around the black hole until it collapsed into the event horizon and released surges of radiation as it did so.

If a black hole was at the center of this planet it would be detectable. Tachyons do not travel through a black hole but they travel through our planet. Case closed.

[kblood]

RadioTelescopes observered a star fall into the acretion disk and spiral around the black hole until it collapsed into the event horizon and released surges of radiation as it did so.

If a black hole was at the center of this planet it would be detectable. Tachyons do not travel through a black hole but they travel through our planet. Case closed.

But that theory still asumes that a black hole in a planet would be the same as the one that comes from a collapsed sun.

[juttkeys]

If a black hole was at the center of this planet it would be detectable. Tachyons do not travel through a black hole but they travel through our planet. Case closed.

?? Just because they travel through the planet doesn't mean there isnt a black hole at the centre, that doesnt prove there isnt one whatsoever, they also travel through galaxies doesnt mean there isnt one at the centre of it.
as kblood pointed out we cant know the physics of a black hole at the centre and neither do you.... case closed?..mind closed.

Still we can agree to disagree.

[supertzar]

It's supposed to be more of a ball of gas than a sun. Black hole I haven't heard.

[kblood]

It's supposed to be more of a ball of gas than a sun. Black hole I haven't heard.

What is the difference between a ball of gas and a sun? Its not that I think its for certain that it is a black hole in the center of our planet, I just think its at least one of the early stages of what a black hole is in theory and by observation from what Lord Zoma says.

[rhydra]

I have been reading about cave systems in Antarctica, there is speculation from various academics whether they can be used as bases for scientists. It's pretty difficult to get there to see what caves there are, you can't just drive there, there are no ferries from Hull so we have to take their word that they have discovered a limited cave system, that they only go so far etc.

Also, the 2004 Tsunami was caused by a huge quake, the Earth was vibrating for weeks afterwards. Some said "ringing like a bell."

[guuna]

I read an article some time ago, in it it was theorised that there could in fact be other entrances to the hollow interior (if you believe in such)than just at the poles.

I understand these are known as 'hoos', an area of the earth's surface that falls directly in the 'lip' of the hole as it where. These would be very difficult to detect until you were right on top of them, only then would one notice such things as anomolies with the horizon and land not on maps such as islands (at sea)

Such 'hoos' could also occur inland in remoter locations.

[supertzar]

What is the difference between a ball of gas and a sun?

A sun emits tremendous heat and light?

[jesta_g]

A sun emits tremendous heat and light?



yet the sun itself is freezing cold, Light only becomes heat when it "vibrates"/makes contact with a 3rd dimensional object.

[supertzar]

Really? Temperatures inside the sun are freezing cold???

[lordzoma]

That kind of plasma is NOT cold.

[sloughi]

Have anyone went on an expedition to the inner-Earth lately?

[endlessvista]

Yes indeed. I ask people just to be introspective for a moment and ask themselves exactly how they came about the information that the world is a solid sphere? The answer I give is this: I've seen it on maps and in school atlases, on TV pictures supposedly filmed in space. I've never seen the solidity and spherical propeties of the Earth itself. I've been deep below ground in a Welsh slate mine, but how do I know that the solid rock under my feet went down all the way to the Earth's core? I've flown at 40,000 in an aeroplane, but the Earth looked just as flat from up there as it does from the surface. If I were to claim that the Earth is a solid sphere then I would be basing my claim on no direct experience at all. I would be basing it on the convention viewpoint that I've absorbed since my birth; what I've been told by teachers and parents and peers that hold that viewpoint on the very same ground: because that's what they've absorbed. The "It just is" and "That's just the way things are" factor.

A+

Love everything about this post.

[endlessvista]

THE HOLLOW EARTH by Dr. Raymond Bernard


has anyone read this? Is it any good?

[sloughi]

So has anyone went on any expedition to the inner-earth yet? May have to if the police state is enforced.

[hagbard_celine]

So has anyone went on any expedition to the inner-earth yet? May have to if the police state is enforced.


I don't have £40,000 I'm afraid.

[cleopatraxxx]

I don't have £40,000 I'm afraid.

i am not an adventurer of that type, hehe

affraid of snakes and all sorts of crap underground! sorry

peace

[hagbard_celine]

i am not an adventurer of that type, hehe

affraid of snakes and all sorts of crap underground! sorry

peace


I'm not to keen on them myself!:o

But I'm more concerned that a submarine might be waiting to torpedo us on the way home!:eek: That and the money are the main reasons I'm put off.

[umbrex]

I don't have £40,000 I'm afraid.

im just wondering, where did the figure 40k quid come from ?

is there a secret trainstation somewhere ? :)

[zyphus]

I've not had time to go through the whole thread, but just wondered if anyone has read the 2 books written by David H Lewis on the subject, i.e. 'The Incredible Cities Of Inner Earth' and 'Cities Of The Deep'.

They can be found here

http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18026&cat=381&page=1

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[hagbard_celine]

im just wondering, where did the figure 40k quid come from ?

is there a secret trainstation somewhere ? :)

If there is it ain't listed on Nationalrail.com!:D

It was the figure orignally quoted on Rodney Clough's site for the icebreaker journey from Russia.

[forza nascosta]

If there is it ain't listed on Nationalrail.com!:D


Imagine the delay if National Rail were involved!

[cleopatraxxx]

im just wondering, where did the figure 40k quid come from ?

is there a secret trainstation somewhere ? :)

just an OBS (observation)
BEFORE i landed in the UK, i had no idea what a QUID was,:D
so when we talk PURE ENLGISH, (LOL;)), some outsiders from the rest of the world might not understand what QUID means.
I wonder why it became a quid. anyone knows? since when it has been a QUID?

thank you

Cleo

[forza nascosta]

just an OBS (observation)
BEFORE i landed in the UK, i had no idea what a QUID was,:D
so when we talk PURE ENLGISH, (LOL;)), some outsiders from the rest of the world might not understand what QUID means.
I wonder why it became a quid. anyone knows? since when it has been a QUID?

thank you

Cleo

It's amazing what you take for granted isn't it? I have never thought about it. Could it be from quid pro quo - when something is exchanged for something else? All I really know is I like it when I am quids in!

[hagbard_celine]

Imagine the delay if National Rail were involved!

The wrong kind of lava on the track!:D:rolleyes:

[lycan]

It is a very interesting story.

I have some pob's with what he said and how things happen. But you never know it all could be real, and there are a race of Super Nazi's living in the middle of the Earth with UFO's? There are a lot of photographs of the Nazi's in WW2 using what looks like a UFO, also them being snaped with little long armed man??

[rhydra]

There is an odd mountain in Tibet, called Mount Kailash. it is said to be an enormous crystal. Funny thing is, it's got four sides and is distinctly pyramidal, it is also 21,778 ft high. Along with the Buddhists, who say it is associated with the kingdom of Shambhala, the Bon also venerate it, they circle it the opposite way, anti clockwise, always keeping their left shoulder to the mountain.

No one is allowed near, it has never been climbed, at least not by anyone we know about. It is seen to be a dire sin to climb it, anyone who is said to have set foot on it's slopes is reported to have died.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kailash_south_side.jpg

I have a feeling this may hold a doorway to the underworld.

Link.

[cafetimes1991]

There is an odd mountain in Tibet, called Mount Kailash. it is said to be an enormous crystal. Funny thing is, it's got four sides and is distinctly pyramidal, it is also 21,778 ft high. Along with the Buddhists, who say it is associated with the kingdom of Shambhala, the Bon also venerate it, they circle it the opposite way, anti clockwise, always keeping their left shoulder to the mountain.

No one is allowed near, it has never been climbed, at least not by anyone we know about. It is seen to be a dire sin to climb it, anyone who is said to have set foot on it's slopes is reported to have died.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kailash_south_side.jpg

I have a feeling this may hold a doorway to the underworld.

Link.

Very interesting.

[hagbard_celine]

Could it be an actual man-made pyramid that's been mistaken for a natural hill, like the one in Bosnia?:confused:

[supertzar]

THE HOLLOW EARTH by Dr. Raymond Bernard


has anyone read this? Is it any good?


Yes, I have it. It is excellent. I have some other titles: The Subterranean World, Underground Races, This Hollow Earth, The Shaver Mystery, some others.

[sophia_h]

`

Mount Kailash


Mt. Kailash is a peak in the Gangdisê mountains in Tibet. It is the source of some of the longest rivers in Asia and is a sacred mountain not just to one faith but to four: Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and followers of Bön.

Next to the mountain are the sacred lakes Manasarowar and Rakshastal.

According to Hindu mythology, Shiva, the God of destruction and regeneration, resides at the summit of a legendary mountain named Kailāśā.



Mount Kailāśā is regarded in many sects of Hinduism as Paradise, the ultimate destination of souls and the spiritual center of the world. Some traditions also aver that the mountain is Shiva's linga and Lake Manasarowar below is the yoni of His consort.


According to one description found in the Puranas, Mount Kailash is the center of the world, its four faces are made of crystal, ruby, gold, and lapis lazuli. It is the pillar of the world; is 84,000 leagues high; is the center of the world mandala; and is located at the heart of six mountain ranges symbolizing a lotus. The four rivers flowing from Kailash then flow to the four quarters of the world and divide the world into four regions. The largest and most important rock-cut temple at Ellora in India is named after Mount Kailash. Many of its sculptures and reliefs depict episodes relating to Shiva and Parvati, including the demon Ravana's attempt to shake Mount Kailash.

Tibetan Buddhists believe that Kailash is the home of the Buddha Demchok (also known as Demchog or Chakrasamvara), who represents supreme bliss. It is said that Milarepa, champion of Tantric Buddhism, arrived in Tibet to challenge Naro-Bonchung, champion of the Bön religion of Tibet. The two magicians engaged in a terrifying sorcerous battle, but neither was able to gain a decisive advantage.


Finally, it was agreed that whoever could reach the summit of Kailash most rapidly would be the victor. While Naro-Bonchung sat on a magic drum and soared up the slope, Milarepa's followers were dumbfounded to see him sitting still and meditating. Yet when Naro-Bonchung was nearly at the top, Milarepa suddenly moved into action and overtook him by riding on the rays of the sun, thus winning the contest and bringing Buddhism to Tibet.


In Jainism, in which Kailash is known as Mount Ashtapada, the mountain is sacred because the founder of their faith, Rishabhadeva, attained liberation from rebirth on the mountain.


In Bön, the religion which predates Buddhism in Tibet, the mountain is known as Tise and is believed to be the abode of the sky goddess Sipaimen. In addition, Bon tradition has it that Tise was the site of a legendary 12th century battle of supernatural power

( a nuclear war . S )

between the Buddhist sage Milarepa and the Bon shaman Naro Bon-chung. Milarepa's victory displaced Bon as the primary religion of Tibet, firmly establishing Buddhism in its place.


( another cultural myth describing the throwing down of the
Goddess or FEMININE side of DIVINITY to male dominance. S )


Pilgrimage

Every year, thousands make a pilgrimage to Kailash, following a tradition going back thousands of years. Pilgrims of several religions believe that circumambulating Mount Kailash on foot is a holy ritual that will bring good fortune. The peregrination is made in a clockwise direction by Hindus and Buddhists. Followers of the Jain and Bönpo religions circumambulate the mountain in a counterclockwise direction. The path around Mount Kailash is 52 km (32 mi) long.



Some pilgrims believe that the entire walk around Kailash should be made in a single day. This is not easy: a person in good shape walking fast would take perhaps 15 hours to complete the 52 km trek. Many of the devout do accomplish this feat, little daunted by the uneven terrain, altitude sickness and harsh conditions faced in the process.


Indeed, some pilgrims venture a much more demanding regimen, performing body-length prostrations over the entire length of the circumambulation: The pilgrim bends down, kneels, prostrates full-length, makes a mark with his fingers, rises to his knees, prays, and then crawls forward on hands and knees to the mark made by his/her fingers before repeating the process. It requires at least four days of physical endurance to perform the circumambulation while following this regimen.


According to all religions that revere the mountain, setting foot on its slopes is an act of sacrilege. It is claimed that many people who ventured to defy the taboo have died in the process.



The mountain is located in a particularly remote and inhospitable area of the Tibetan Himalayas. Few but those in the best health are able to undertake the journey even to the starting point of the circumambulation, leave alone walk 52 km in a single day. A few modern amenities, such as benches, resting places and refreshment kiosks, exist to aid the pilgrims in their devotions.


When the Chinese army entered Tibet in 1950, Tibet was closed off to the outside world and the pilgrimages ceased. However, following improvement in Sino-Indian relations in 1979, the government permitted pilgrimages to Mount Kailash to resume.


Following political disturbance and border disturbances across the Chinese-Indian boundary, pilgrimage to the legendary abode of Lord Shiva was stopped from 1959 to 1980. Thereafter a limited number of Indian pilgrims are allowed to visit the place, under the supervision of the Chinese and Indian governments. It is a lengthy and hazardous trek over the Himalayan terrain.


Alternatively, pilgrims travel by land from Kathmandu (also from Lhasa where flights from Kathmandu are available) to Tibet and thereafter travel over the great Tibetan plateau (ranging 10,000 to 16,000 feet) by car. It is a long journey with four night stops in camps/local settlements, finally arriving at Tarchen (4600 m) (said to be aberration of Sanskrit darshan).



Walking around the holy mountain (a part of its official park) has to be done on foot or pony; it takes three days of trekking starting from a height of around 15,000 ft to crossing the Dolma pass (19,000 ft) and encamping for two nights en route. First, near the meadow of Dirapuk gompa—2 or 3 km before the pass and second, after crossing the pass and going downhill as far as possible (viewing Gauri Kund in the distance).



Sources"Mount Kailash" - Wikipedia (accessed 2006)
"Mt. Kailash" - Sacredsites.com (accessed 2006)

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/tibet/mount-kailash.htm

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[rhydra]

According to all religions that revere the mountain, setting foot on its slopes is an act of sacrilege. It is claimed that many people who ventured to defy the taboo have died in the process.

Sounds like a challenge, who's volunteering? :D

Don't all put your hands up at once! :confused:

[cafetimes1991]

I plan on visiting the centre of the earth before I die.
I'd like to write the first guide book to it. :)

http://news.travelcounsellors.co.uk/Images/18302487/BBC_buys_shares_in_Lonely_Planet_travel_guides_lar ge.jpg

[supertzar]

I plan on visiting the centre of the earth before I die.
I'd like to write the first guide book to it.

Sorry, Professor Hardwigg beat you to it by 120 years or so.

[cacadores]

Admiral Byrd fllew with his entire crew, NOT ALONE,
you can be skeptical about one man, but all of them?
we'll see what happens with the trip 2007

Admiral Byrd never did say that he flew over a hole or to the centre of the earth at all!

I suppose you must mean the dodgy ''diary''?

The cover of the diary, presented in mimeograph booklet form, contains the crest adopted by the German secret Thule Society – a swastika and a sword surrounded by oak leaves.

The date indicated in this diary is “Feb. 19, 1947 yet it contains a lead up very similar to a normal trip taken in 1928.

The trip is supposed to have been taken in February. In February the Arctic is in, of course, total darkness. How could they see below?

Much of the 'diary' is copied from various other sources. For example according to “The Secret Diary of Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd,” there was a meeting between The Admiral and the “Master” of the Arianni;

“Yes, my son,” replied the Master, “the dark ages that will come for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond that I cannot say. We see a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here my son, safe in our keeping …”

Strangely, a 1937 MGM motion picture “Lost Horizon,” has a scene where the star, Ronald Coleman has an audience with the Dali Lama in Shangra-La, a lost city in Tibet. The Master tells him that there “is a dark time coming” but that:

“You, my son, (said the Master), “will live through the storm. You will preserve the fragrance of our history and add to it a touch of your own mind. Beyond that, my vision weakens … but I see in the great distance a new world starting in the ruins … But in hopefulness, seeking it’s lost and legendary treasures, and they will all be here, my son, hidden behind the mountains under the blue moon, preserved as if by a miracle…”


The alleged diary first became available from an organization based in rural Missouri, which called itself “The Society for a Complete Earth” in the 1970s. The head of this organization was a Native American, Captain Tawani Wakawa Shoush.

[sloughi]

You've been talking about it for a while. I have TWO great places to start.
1. Cave delos Vientos.
2. Arkansas Cushman Caverns
Talk to us when you get serious about trip plans.;)

[sloughi]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[jesta_g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDKe8p-Y63U&feature=related



BUUUMP!

great listen, thank you for posting this.

i particularly liked some of the questions from listeners. its fairly clear by those that many are "waking up".


A must listen folks :)

[comawhite015]

There is an odd mountain in Tibet, called Mount Kailash. it is said to be an enormous crystal. Funny thing is, it's got four sides and is distinctly pyramidal, it is also 21,778 ft high.


How was it measured?

[hagbard_celine]

BUUUMP!

great listen, thank you for posting this.

i particularly liked some of the questions from listeners. its fairly clear by those that many are "waking up".


A must listen folks :)


Yes, sounds interesting, but I'll have to catch it later.:) Thanks, Sloughi.

I wonder though, there have been so many fake and no-show missions., Is this one going to be for real?:confused:

[hagbard_celine]

How was it measured?

Trianometry probably. You measure how far you are from the base of the mountain, then use an optical targeting device to measure the angle between the flat ground and the peak of the mountain and then calculate the third side of the triangle, the distance between the ground and the peak.

[relax]

Hi guys new to this forum. Was browsing youtube videos last night and came across this, done a search on this forum and didnt come across anything that gives it a direct mention, also done an internet search after watching it which didnt bring up much considering the size of a discovery like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbK8H3wR2PM&NR=1

[oiram]

The guy doing all the talking said that he trust his Government fully & all the information he gets from them.

If he would have said that he believes that the Government gives him correct info I would have given him a chance.

1 + 1 = 2

They just creating things to side track people from the real issue & Problems.

End of story for me. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/v/tDKe8p-Y63U

[sloughi]

http://www.4shared.com/file/88841935/440908ac/03__Taylor_Swift_-_Love_Story.html

[father ted]

http://www.4shared.com/file/88841935/440908ac/03__Taylor_Swift_-_Love_Story.html

That's underground/secret millitary activity.

[marpat]

That's underground/secret millitary activity.

How would you know? its hardly underground secret military work if people in here know about it.

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDKe8p-Y63U&feature=related

Seen it now. Very interesting. Agnew sounds like he has his head screwed on. Also this expedition seems to be more likely to take place than the previous ones. I always thought Rodney Clough was a bit vague in the way he talked etc. Many of the callers didn't really understand I thought. The bloke who asked if the polar orifice would be covered by the sea for instance.

[sloughi]

http://www.anomalousimages.net/Shasta_Hole.jpg
Shasta Cave.

[biblegirl]

http://www.anomalousimages.net/Shasta_Hole.jpg
Shasta Cave.

Nice one. Where'd this picture come from?

[sloughi]

This guy that went on a hike seen this light shining from a cave in Shasta. So I posted it.

[endlessvista]

Nice one. Where'd this picture come from?

Center for Applied Lens Flare would be my guess.

[microverses]

This guy that went on a hike seen this light shining from a cave in Shasta. So I posted it.

So he's hiking and THIS is the best picture that can be obtained? It looks like light reflections on glass, like the image was taken from inside a vehicle. Just saying.

If the earth is indeed hollow, and I don't buy that it is, and we were to find out - well you could go ahead and take EVERYTHING you think you know and throw it away. None of your current data set would be useful.

But I'm all for getting some of those crooks from DC and throwing them down a hole to see if this whole thing pans out. :P

Guessing the moon is a 'guest room' for the in-laws?

[sloughi]

It looks like light reflections on glass, like the image was taken from inside a vehicle. No it doesn't. If that was the case the flash from the photo would make the picture indiscernable and it wouldn't be shining specifically from the cave. Very rarely does nature give off white heat. The way the broad violet rays emanate from the white light source tells anyone looking at it that the white light must be an intense source of light/heat/energy. Plus, the light rays are NOT visible to the naked eyes. It is some sort of ghost light. The pic was taken, but the light appeared in the photograph when they took photo shots of a strange square cave.

Here is another take of the hiker's picture of the square cave emanating light! Powerful & Strange radiation!;)
http://www.anomalousimages.net/Shasta_Hole2.jpg

[microverses]

interesting, thanks. guess I need to look into this more.

[felakuti]

Well I believe that the earth is hollow AND inhabited within. And not only that, I believe the MOON and ALL the planets in our solar system are hollow AND inhabited on the inside by various forms of intelligent life including insects, animals, as well as highly developed, conscious, aware beings, all with various levels of social, political, religious, economic, and technological advancement.

Thus, the inner worlds of Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury, Pluto, Neptune ARE ALL INHABITED. The beings in those places are adapted to atmospheric conditions prevalent there every bit as we are to earth conditions.

I've also read some accounts by Near Death Experiencers, who reported interracting with intelligent beings on numerous planets CLOSE TO EARTH.

I also believe our SUN is inhabited by powerful, highly intelligent entities.

Given that the inhabitants of the inner Earth are said to be taller, longer lived, and healthier than surface humans, long battered/stunted by cosmic radiation, it is conceivable in my view that Beings who live INSIDE hollow planets regard our surface existence as truly pitiful, exposing ourselves as we do, to multiferous cosmic elements.

A bit like one would view a homeless man lying out on the pavement at night when he could be safely tucked in a warm room.

[relax]

Well I believe that the earth is hollow AND inhabited within. And not only that, I believe the MOON and ALL the planets in our solar system are hollow AND inhabited on the inside by various forms of intelligent life including insects, animals, as well as highly developed, conscious, aware beings, all with various levels of social, political, religious, economic, and technological advancement.

Thus, the inner worlds of Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury, Pluto, Neptune ARE ALL INHABITED. The beings in those places are adapted to atmospheric conditions prevalent there every bit as we are to earth conditions.

I've also read some accounts by Near Death Experiencers, who reported interracting with intelligent beings on numerous planets CLOSE TO EARTH.

I also believe our SUN is inhabited by powerful, highly intelligent entities.

Given that the inhabitants of the inner Earth are said to be taller, longer lived, and healthier than surface humans, long battered/stunted by cosmic radiation, it is conceivable in my view that Beings who live INSIDE hollow planets regard our surface existence as truly pitiful, exposing ourselves as we do, to multiferous cosmic elements.

A bit like one would view a homeless man lying out on the pavement at night when he could be safely tucked in a warm room.

Agree with all of this, think that alot of the ufos come from within the earth as I think different races of them may interact with whatever human decendants live within. Would love to go to one of the places where theres supposed to be an enterance, but 800 miles of tunnel? Hopefully theres a reptillian snack bar on the way.

[dallas18]

im not sure if this was posted already but this video has a good collection of relating pictures

The Hollow Earth - YouTube

[drc_]

I recently heard Steward Swerdlow's view on this topic, and what he's saying about it actually made a lot of sense to me.

It has to do with formation of planets, on how they spin and form a sphere form etc. I can't remember what he says exactly..

I think he talks about it in this interview: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-4229871168114736074&ei=9H4QSt1Dy_f4BvHeieUF&q=steward+swerdlow&hl=nl&client=firefox-a

[hagbard_celine]

I recently heard Steward Swerdlow's view on this topic, and what he's saying about it actually made a lot of sense to me.

It has to do with formation of planets, on how they spin and form a sphere form etc. I can't remember what he says exactly..

I think he talks about it in this interview: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-4229871168114736074&ei=9H4QSt1Dy_f4BvHeieUF&q=steward+swerdlow&hl=nl&client=firefox-a

Thanks. I'll have a listen:cool:.

[kblood]

I recently heard Steward Swerdlow's view on this topic, and what he's saying about it actually made a lot of sense to me.

It has to do with formation of planets, on how they spin and form a sphere form etc. I can't remember what he says exactly..

I think he talks about it in this interview: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-4229871168114736074&ei=9H4QSt1Dy_f4BvHeieUF&q=steward+swerdlow&hl=nl&client=firefox-a

Very interesting video. I agree, its the theory that makes the most sense, that centrifuge from our planets rotation is what makes it hollow.

[qpid]

There is an odd mountain in Tibet, called Mount Kailash. it is said to be an enormous crystal. Funny thing is, it's got four sides and is distinctly pyramidal, it is also 21,778 ft high. Along with the Buddhists, who say it is associated with the kingdom of Shambhala, the Bon also venerate it, they circle it the opposite way, anti clockwise, always keeping their left shoulder to the mountain.

No one is allowed near, it has never been climbed, at least not by anyone we know about. It is seen to be a dire sin to climb it, anyone who is said to have set foot on it's slopes is reported to have died.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kailash_south_side.jpg

I have a feeling this may hold a doorway to the underworld.

Link.


very interessting - thanks :)

[flaykat]

b) the earth is hollow with a sun hovering inside of it, defying all laws of physics.

Conclusion: Scenario b is completely preposterous.[/QUOTE]

what if the 'laws' of physics are wrong? they are certainly incomplete..... have a look at the physics Nassim Haramein talks about, his unified field theory seems to be much more complete and than the current understanding of mainstream physics (which leaves us with a lot of questions they don't have answers for), and leads to the notion that the earth is indeed hollow, albeit very small. Worth checking him out if you haven't heard of him before or if you think you know all there is to know about physics.......

[ytch]

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-09a-05.asp

l&l

[kblood]

b) the earth is hollow with a sun hovering inside of it, defying all laws of physics.

Conclusion: Scenario b is completely preposterous.

what if the 'laws' of physics are wrong? they are certainly incomplete..... have a look at the physics Nassim Haramein talks about, his unified field theory seems to be much more complete and than the current understanding of mainstream physics (which leaves us with a lot of questions they don't have answers for), and leads to the notion that the earth is indeed hollow, albeit very small. Worth checking him out if you haven't heard of him before or if you think you know all there is to know about physics.......[/QUOTE]

Also it might just be an effect of Earth's rotation that it is there. Either that or a kind of eye of the storm.

Many possible explanations. Another is that up and down is the other way around inside. If something is lighter than air (gas ie as the sun is made of) is actually lighter than the air that also ought to be inside. The center of our planet is the furthest away from all the gravity there is inside our planet.

Many people just dont seem to understand gravity and how it would work with a hollow planet. Gravity isnt just comming from the center of our planet, its from where the most mass is. That is the surface or shell of our planet. Therefore the oxygen inside our planet is what the heavier than the gasses in the center of our planet. Therefore the oxygen is pushing these gasses into the center and keeping them there. An inner atmosphere.

[sloughi]

Seen it now. Very interesting. Agnew sounds like he has his head screwed on. Also this expedition seems to be more likely to take place than the previous ones. I always thought Rodney Clough was a bit vague in the way he talked etc. Many of the callers didn't really understand I thought. The bloke who asked if the polar orifice would be covered by the sea for instance.

Did it ever take place? I would examine caves but North Pole expeditions always fail. There are plenty of caverns around.

[hagbard_celine]

Did it ever take place? I would examine caves but North Pole expeditions always fail. There are plenty of caverns around.

As far as I know it's never taken place.:rolleyes::( Sounds like a con.

[rodin]

http://tolkien.ru/pictures/christma/1927m.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

http://tolkien.ru/pictures/christma/1927m.jpg

What's this picture?

[i_b_awake]

I think the Hollow Earth theories would make a great film, something akin to Jurassic Park or King Kong.

Perhaps take an Indiana Jones take on the idea with the forces of darkness (nazi's) trying to locate the hollow earth while our epic adventurers try to stop them. Along the way after almost freezing to death at the top of the globe they enter a world where there are primeval animals roaming who avoided the last ice-age by heading north and ending up in hollow earth. Mammoths, sabre tooth tigers, perhaps some revelation about Dodos not actually being extinct. Perhaps there could be an ancient tribe oblivious to us surface dwellers. Perhaps they don't believe that there could possibly be people living on the planets exterior!



LOL .. They did .. Was ..

Jules Verne's - A Journey to the Center of the Earth

[velma]

It is inconceivable that the earth is anything other than a geode, due to centripital and centrifugal force, with superfluous matter concentrated at the centre, forming the inner sun. The hollow earth theory was even woven into 'Ice Age III' when the creatures fell into a hidden underworld.

[delamo1999]

Did it ever take place? I would examine caves but North Pole expeditions always fail. There are plenty of caverns around.


As far as I know it's never taken place.:rolleyes::( Sounds like a con.


I know this guy who claims to have visited the north pole. He showed some pictures of it as well as a symbol that he placed up there. When I asked him how he could get there with it being so heavily guarded by the military, he quickly brushed me off and repeated that he was there.

This guy is also a rosecrutian.

[da1reppinqnz]

Truthism.com theres info on a hollow earth there. and much more...this blows my mind... gotta read up on it later when im high as a ufo

[suicidal_martyr]

I thought about the concept of the world being hollow. I look at it this way, if you stand on a big ball and it rotates you fly off. If you are inside of the ball and it rotates you stick to it, gravity... Though I do not know what I really believe as far as it being hollow or round. Just thought about the concept once and how it could be.

[relax]

I look at it this way, if you stand on a big ball and it rotates you fly off.

And yet were all here, come on mate.

[suicidal_martyr]

And yet were all here, come on mate.

Ugh, one of these people... Can't go one day without puttin up a fight in the DI forum. It was a thought, can you read? Don't patronize me please, ty, Sir. LOLOOLOLSANDKJBASIHAKJBFKASBfkabsfk

[antihypnosis]

The Hollow Earth's Cubed Suns

By
Amitakh Stanford
4th February 2005

Some people have speculated that the Earth is hollow. The theory of a hollow Earth became more accepted among some occultists and others in the 19th and 20th centuries. The theory is well based because the Earth is in fact hollow. This is true even though it has not yet been proven via the so-called "scientific method".

There have been a few who knew that there are civilizations beneath the Earth's surface. These few have learned not through channelling or second-hand accounts - they have been there and they have been involved there. What follows is a first-hand account of some of the conditions in the inner Earth.

Indeed, the Earth is hollow. There is an inner shell that faces downward from a surface perspective, but upward from an inner-Earth perspective. In the inner sky there are four star-like objects that emit light for the inner Earth.

The locations of these inner "suns" appear to change radically depending on where on the surface of the inner Earth they are being observed, and there is the appearance that the inner "suns" are moving much more than they really are. This is because of Wanchenlu's illusion of "no-motion" that makes the inner surface dwellers believe that the inner surface of the Earth is stationary and the "suns" are the only things in motion. As above, so below. The Designer of the inner Earth sought to confuse its occupants like It sought to confuse those on the outer surface. See Shattering the Cube Parts 1 and 2.

The combined light from all the inner-Earth "suns" is much more subdued in comparison to the sun for the surface of the planet. However, they have one thing in common with the outer sun. They are all cubes that were set into motion at very fast speeds so they appear to be spheroid suns. They are external combustion engines just like the outer sun. Since the suns are cubed they are constructed entirely of 90-degree angles, which metaphysically speaking, facilitates strife, confrontation, confusion, restlessness, agitation and outright belligerence. This is by design.

The suns in the inner Earth were speeded up in 1980, just like the sun of the outer Earth was in 1983. All four burn hotter than they ever have, and it has caused drought and a heat wave on the inner-Earth's surface. The flora and the fauna have diminished considerably since the suns were speeded up. The heat from the inner Earth is also a factor in global warming on the outer surface.

In 1996 nearly all of the consciousnesses of the viable "civilian" humanoids were removed from the inner-Earth and re-located by the Light. This happened to most of the viable "civilian" True-Light beings in human bodies on the outer surface in 1999. This is one reason that today there are so many humans walking about like zombies - some of them are "shells" only. However, not all "zombies" are due to the explanation given above.

As you can see, things intensified on the inner surface before they did on the outer surface. The conditions in the inner Earth are not as complex as they are on the outer surface, and the removal and relocation of consciousnesses was accomplished with less resistance; there was less confusion as the majority of the people were more spiritually attuned when compared to the majority of those on the outer surface.

Before 1980, the climate of the inner Earth was predominately temperate to sub-tropical, although it could get slightly warmer or cooler in some places. Many of the climatic conditions of the inner Earth were similar to those found on the outer surface. Now, things have changed. The surface and the air are hotter and are rapidly getting unbearable. This is why some of the inner-Earth beings are frantically digging their way to the outer surface of the Earth. Some of the inner-Earth people are aware of the outer surface of the Earth and others are not.

On the inner surface is found contoured land, with hills, mountains, valleys and even rivers. The inner Earth still supports biological life, which used to flourish down there. There remains varied vegetation including orchards, farms and wild growth although the quality of life has since deteriorated.

The animals in the inner Earth include some species that bear striking resemblance to those on the surface, and others that are distinctly unique to the inner Earth. Among these mammals are hairy, elephant-like creatures with huge upswept tusks that are known on the surface as mammoths. They also have huge python-like snakes that are very thick yet fairly short in length. Not too long ago, the inner-Earth surface was thriving with biological life, but today it is in a desperate state. This is mainly because the "envelope" in which the inner Earth is contained is relatively smaller than the outer Earth's "envelope" and the conditions are far more precarious and readily affected by drastic changes than that of the outer surface.

Some of the individual animals of the inner Earth are humanoids who are trapped in animal bodies. This nefarious work is carried out by evil aliens as a punishment on the humanoids. The aliens also use energy fields to "hang" their victims outstretched on what appear to be invisible walls, leaving them suspended in "air". These victims can only be released when the energy fields are disconnected.

There are several races of people that inhabit the inner Earth. Some are more spiritual and peace loving, while others are more technologically inclined and more ambitious. Most of the races of the inner Earth have either dark complexions about the hue of fair East Indians with sharp features or they have fairer complexions with hues closer to those of fair Mediterranean people. Most of the inhabitants are slim and reasonably tall.

Unfortunately, slavery also plagues them - it has been imposed upon them by the conquering, evil aliens. In particular, there is a very evil group of aliens that call themselves something that sounds like "Vaag-jiles". The inner-Earth beings are being hassled by hostile aliens (especially the Vaag-jiles) who have enslaved the inner-Earth's population, especially the children.

The Vaag-jiles have been kidnapping children from peace-loving races and forcing them to work as slaves, and for other purposes, including consuming them as gourmet food and using them for ceremonial sacrifices. Most of the Vaag-jiles are quite tall with very dark complexions and they generally inhabit the valley areas of the inner Earth. Vaag-jiles are primarily a matriarchal society and females play a very active role in their conquests. Because Vaag-jiles interfere with outer surface affairs, they live closer to the outer surface than many of the inner-Earth inhabitants.

Vaag-jiles have technology to visit the surface and have done so on many occasions. They have been spotted many times by indigenous people in the Pacific Northwest of America, especially by members of Kwakiutl tribes, who have instilled the Vaag-jiles into their folklore and artefacts and call them "Tsonoqua". The Vaag-jiles eat human children from both the inner Earth and the outer surface and have exploited the Kwakiutls and other races on the outer surface. At present, some Kwakiutl members are using Tsonoqua to assist them in their dark arts. Little do most of them suspect that things have changed and soon they will pay a high price for their dark activities, especially those in league with the Tsonoqua.

Certain of the Kwakiutl people and certain channellers are often the ones who give out "channelled" material from the Vaag-jiles. Some of Vaag-jiles and other aliens as well have tricked the Kwakiutls and the channellers by pretending to be their ancestors, Ascended Masters or some alien beings here to assist the planet. These beings have no interest in assisting earthlings - they serve their own nefarious interests. Many Kwakiutl people have been kidnapped and taken to the inner Earth by Vaag-jiles.

Other than alien technology such as that used by the Vaag-jiles and other military types of aliens for travelling between the inner and outer surfaces of the Earth, there exists a large, rotating, "mobile" portal or aperture that is now near the North Pole. There are other smaller portals in Tibet, Africa, China, Australia, Cuba, Scotland, Ireland, Finland etc. (Please note that these portals are NOT to be confused with the inter-dimensional portals that exist around the globe). From time to time there have been flora and fauna species that have migrated or floated to the outer surface and beaches from the inner Earth.

Today, the portals rarely open due to various changes in the Earth's structure over time. In the distant past, migration of all types of biological life, including people and animals have occurred to and from the inner Earth.

Nowadays, these portals do not open very often and the inner-Earth people do not live too close to the portals, but a lot of animals and plants do. From time-to-time surface dwellers have stumbled across portals, as have inner-Earth inhabitants. The openings of the portals depend upon the rotation of the planet and the rotation of the portals. When certain things align, a portal will open for a short while. There have been cases when a portal opens to an icy region and suddenly closes, leaving people or animals from the inner Earth stranded and they freeze to death. Some of these have been discovered by modern day explorers and the discoveries are inexplicable but for the knowledge that the inner-Earth beings were trapped in the ice when a portal closed.

In some of the villages of the inner Earth their social structures have a single person in charge. The leader is like a village head who is usually a person who is highly respected and honoured. The village head is also a spiritual figurehead.

Another part of the social structure of the villages involves people who are in charge of technological advancements. In this quarter of the inner Earth there are laboratories where experiments are being conducted and other tests are being carried out. These groups of people appear to be more advanced technologically than surface dwellers are, even though they are not involved in nuclear technology. However, some of the villages on the inner-Earth are not so advanced as others.

A few outer-surface people regularly visit the inner Earth. These people know how to enter the inner Earth. Haidakhan Babaji, who is also an Attas, was one such regular visitor who went down for various purposes. He and other Attas have gone down there many times to assist the inner-Earth beings. The Attas enter through a different method than the portals described earlier.

Some of the inner-Earth beings are now severely affected by the deterioration of things on the planet and are taking very drastic steps. They are so exhausted and affected by the conditions around them that some of them now resemble barren, walking trees. They are thirsty, hungry and haggard and seemingly without hope as their world is severely affected. In desperation, they are now furiously digging and drilling their way through the Earth's core to the surface. See BEN-DA-KO - What's More!

Alien wars on the surface are already affecting things in the inner Earth. As I said in BEN-DA-KO - What's More!, the Reptilians would launch into open battles with the Vulturites that would be fought in the sky and seas before April 2005. These battles are now raging and the effects have been seen in Queensland and Victoria, Australia. When the battles are occurring, there often appear huge, spreading bolts of energy that seem to be lightning without any accompanying thunder or storm. It used to be that the aliens would cover up these battles by simulating thunderstorms, but now that the Four Elements have been released, it is not so easy for the aliens to generate storms on demand.

Sometimes the aliens use invisibility technology so their crafts cannot be seen under normal circumstances. When battles take place under the "cloak" of invisibility, one can still hear a huge roaring sound that sometimes is reported by people to be tremors and earthquakes.

A few days ago, there were two huge battles in the Australian skies. In the past, alien battles were generally contained as they were primarily for posturing purposes. Now that the BEN-DA-KO is in full swing, the two major Anunnaki groups - Reptilians and Vulturites - are fighting for supremacy of the planet. The aliens are becoming more and more reckless and "dirty" in their combat manoeuvres.

One battle was so reckless that a craft from the Light Rescuers had to intervene before the battle seriously affected many innocent parties. Another alien battle that occurred in Melbourne a few days ago between the Reptilians/Greys and the Vulturites was so intense that the battle sounds could be heard for 100 kilometres. Some people described it as a thunderous booming sound; others thought it was an earthquake. The authorities have not yet come up with a satisfactory explanation for the sudden, huge, explosive sound. However, a commonly used cover story when these occur has been that a military plane accidentally broke the sound barrier. Of course, this story is wearing very thin. When sounds as violent as these reverberate into the inner Earth, they have very devastating effects on life down there. This has occurred several times in the inner Earth before. The space battles will intensify. This is only the beginning. Their side effects are tremendously harmful to the inner-Earth beings, not to mention what they do to the outer surface beings.

As many of you may have already noticed, weather anomalies are occurring throughout the world since the release of the Four Elements. These have included windless cyclonic-like rainstorms that lasted nine days in Far North Queensland. The locals were amazed at witnessing windless, continuing, heavy rainstorms. Strong winds almost always accompany heavy rains in this part of the world. Fire fighters in South Australia have recently commented upon the unusual speed, spread and other odd behaviour of the last bush fire. They noted that they have never seen fire behave as it did in the recent Adelaide bush fires.

Yesterday, there were unprecedented, severe flash floods in the city of Melbourne and cold temperatures bringing in an unheard of snowfall in summer at Falls Creek, Victoria. Towns in the U.S.A. have been flooded by rivers that froze before they could retreat. Sea mist coated houses on the New England coast then froze instantly, turning the residences into literal icehouses.

Parts of Antarctica have reported very warm 15 degree Celsius temperatures. Ice melts very rapidly at 15 degrees. Due to an emergency, a Russian icebreaker has been dispatched from Vladivostok to rescue and re-supply the American McMurdo Base on the Ross Ice Shelf of Antarctica. This confirms the explosions I reported "seeing" under the shelf in Final Reflections #15, which was published on 4th January 2005. All this shows that the Ross Ice Shelf is unstable and quickly disappearing. These are but a few of many weather anomalies that have covered the globe recently.

The inner and outer Earth are being simultaneously affected by the Clearing Process. However, many have been misguided about what is occurring and think that the Clearing Process is a means for re-starting anew on the physical Earth or that it is for ascension of the Earth to another dimension. In fact, the whole creation controlled by the Shadows will be dismantled totally to free all the trapped True-Light beings.

All viable True-Light beings of all classes of Creation, including mineral, vegetable, animal, human, galactic etc. will soon be returning to the True Creation of True Light, Love, Beauty, Peace and Harmony.

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Just finished reading this thread, it is quite an interesting subject, if the earth is hollow then why do we not know about this? Is there a reason, I wonder.
Or is this just a story? Interesting anyway.

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Just finished reading this thread, it is quite an interesting subject, if the earth is hollow then why do we not know about this? Is there a reason, I wonder.
Or is this just a story? Interesting anyway.

For a plethora of reasons really.

Forbidden knowledge, elites only knowledge, military cover-up (apparently the Russian, Canadian, US and Brits military all aware of it.) scientific Hubris....

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For a plethora of reasons really.

Forbidden knowledge, elites only knowledge, military cover-up (apparently the Russian, Canadian, US and Brits military all aware of it.) scientific Hubris....

hmmmmm makes a lot of sense guuna!

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Here is a movie that was made on Hollow Earth, that gives food for thought,


Hollow Earth Expedition (HEX) The Movie - YouTube Hollow Earth, the movie (HEX)

It is an adventure movie, but makes you think on many things. Although there are many books on Hollow Earth , which are better, more factual,
and that give lights to everything as being a FACT, not a theory,
like: THE HOLLOW EARTH by Raimond Bernard. Check it out its quite good.

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Here is a movie that was made on Hollow Earth, that gives food for thought,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUWGEU_06I Hollow Earth, the movie (HEX)

It is an adventure movie, but makes you think on many things. Although there are many books on Hollow Earth , which are better, more factual,
and that give lights to everything as being a FACT, not a theory,
like: THE HOLLOW EARTH by Raimond Bernard. Check it out its quite good.

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thanks Superztar!:D

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xm5zgywMo8 D.U.M.B.S is not for dummies



I know this is man-made Deep Underground Military Bases (D.U.M.B.S.),
although I wonder if they are related in some way?

quoted so the vid won't dissapear. Would like your feed-back on this

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Global NWO Elite Building Underground Cities Using Our Tax Money Preparing for 2012 - YouTube

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilm7h_MB9Dc

Interesting vid, although nothing revelatory. Noticed they gave Casbolt a mention. Saw his interview with Rich Hall and thought he came across a bit.. meh.. frankly.

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Interesting vid, although nothing revelatory. Noticed they gave Casbolt a mention. Saw his interview with Rich Hall and thought he came across a bit.. meh.. frankly.

Does this Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBS) mean they have total knowledge of Hollow Earth, and are trying to reach it, or already have? since they have been working on this since 1940. And we never heard of Richard E.Byrd on the media ever again, which we knew of 1945 and onwards until the pentagon told him to keep quiet and stop giving interviews...and so he did.

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Richard E. Byrd was a Freemason, no wonder he kept quiet when told to...:(


http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/richard_byrd_fdc.htm

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Admiral Forrestal and Admiral Byrd - HEROES of the Hollow Earth Legend - YouTube


Many high ranking American Officers who wanted to "go public" and talk about the fact that the Earth is hollow where thrown from a 16th floor ,and said to have comitted "suicide". After that it is understood why many who know, still keep quiet. Listen to this.

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Admiral Forrestal and Admiral Byrd - HEROES of the Hollow Earth Legend - YouTube
Admiral Forrestal and Admiral Byrds, Heroes of the Hollow Earth legend.


Admiral Forrestal and Admiral Byrd - HEROES of the Hollow Earth Legend - YouTube

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Hollow Earth Expedition (HEX) The Movie - YouTube
Hollow Earth, the Movie (HEX)

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here is an interesting link on Hollow Earth:

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mysteries/hollow/lamprecht.html
THE HOLLOW EARTH IS INDICATED IN RELIGIONS AND LEGENDS

My question is: If the Earth isn't Hollow, then why are all the entrances to reach HE guarded by the military, by land and air? What's the purpose?
And why should the fact that the Earth is Hollow be hidden from all of us?:rolleyes:
They must have something to gain, would be interesting to know.

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this 2 hour interview is available (for free) in the link at the bottom:

Dean Dominic De Lucia - Hour 1 - Hollow Earth in the Puranas & Polar Expeditions
December 4, 2011
From São Paulo, Brazil, Dean Dominic De Lucia discusses his book: "Hollow Earth in the Puranas." De Lucia was born in Bethesda, Maryland. He studied Business Administration at the University of Baltimore, and later on completed a two-year course in translating at the Catholic University in São Paulo. He has maintained a life-long interest in Indian Hindu philosophy and spiritual practices, which ultimately led him to take up Vedic astrology. He began his studies in 1981 under Nalini Kanta Das or "Tom Hopke", and has been a student and practitioner of the art ever since. His articles were published in two Bangalore magazines, "The Astrological Magazine" and "Modern Astrology." Dean has also written a book called "Astrologia Vedica". We'll discuss Hindu traditions, specifically, the Vedas and the Puranas as Dean has found accounts and stories in the Vedic scriptures related to "The Hollow Earth" and "The Ancient Ones", the demigods or the giants that are alleged to inhabit our inner Earth. Dean will talk about the present day search for the openings to the hollow Earth as well as older accounts and expeditions to the Antarctic and Arctic Circle. Most are familiar with Admiral Byrd's claim of exploring the inner Earth but there are others, of which involved Norwegian explorers, such as Olaf Jansen's Story, also known as "The Smokey God - A Voyage to the Inner World" and Fridtjof Nansen's "Fram" expedition. We'll talk about these and the links in Vedic mythology and the stories of a northerly Shambhala.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/12/RIR-111204.php

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Interesting, would like to hear more. Tips on hearing hour two for free?

Thanks for the link!

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Here is an interesting series of videos on Hollow Earth:

Hollow Earth Hohle Erde 1/5 This video will blow your mind - YouTube
HOLLOW EARTH HOHLE ERDE/ THIS VIDEO WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!
1/5 VIDEOS

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Matt Drudge has a headline which mentions Airlines will be able to fly over North Pole for the first time. Right now it just reloads the drudge page. Maybe they're just seeing how much interest it gets. :)

On Santa Claus is coming to town, (early 1970s) when he moves to the NP, it has a Rainbow. Curious, never seen that before. Brought to mind the rainbow bridge from the wagner's ring et al.

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Matt Drudge has a headline which mentions Airlines will be able to fly over North Pole for the first time. Right now it just reloads the drudge page. Maybe they're just seeing how much interest it gets. :)

On Santa Claus is coming to town, (early 1970s) when he moves to the NP, it has a Rainbow. Curious, never seen that before. Brought to mind the rainbow bridge from the wagner's ring et al.

Ja, just lately saw the bit about the airlines 'are now allowed to overfly the north pole' spiel. Mega bullshit.

More like , our previous flight paths were not defendable. Google earth was givin' us shit,

our new flight plan is mega A1(and shit)

Get used to it a-hole.;)

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Get used to it a-hole.;)

A-gartha Hole, you mean?

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A-gartha Hole, you mean?

Yup. sorry that comment was hypothetical and not directed at you.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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No problem. :) Any person who can consider something like Hollow Earth isn't likely to offend me.

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No problem. :) Any person who can consider something like Hollow Earth isn't likely to offend me.

from Secrets Of Our Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson, 1979:

The more scientists look at the evidence brought back from the Moon, the more they are convinced that it was formed at some remote corner of the Galaxy, and was captured by the Earth several thousand years ago. The problem with the capture theory is that, for one, the Moon is too BIG. Secondly, its orbit is too perfectly circular, and too far out from the Earth. (If it HAD been captured by the Earth, it would have an ELLIPTICAL orbit, not a perfectly circular one.)

These facts, combined with the HOLLOW and seemingly ARTIFICIAL nature of the Moon, not to mention the coincidental positioning of the Moon the positioning that makes Earth the only planet in the solar system to experience total eclipses all of these discrepancies and coincidences are just too much to accept. As outlandish as it may seem, the theory of Spaceship Moon having been altered and steered into Earth orbit by god-knows-who several thousand years ago seems to be the only one that fits all of the evidence.

" A new moon rose, Richard Lewis told us at the Fifth Lunar Conference in 1974. It was a planet in its own right... Such a planet had to be captured to become the satellite of the Earth. "
NOTE: The fact that the Moon was once, of necessity, a planet in its own right, along with fact that evidence points to the Moon being hollow, could be an interesting piece of evidence in favor of the Hollow Earth Theory. (This theory holds that, not only our Earth, but ALL planets are formed hollow.) Therefore, the fact that the Moon is hollow does not necessarily mean that it is a spaceship fashioned by Aliens.

It could simply mean that the Hollow Earth Theory is, indeed, correct, and that all planets are, in fact, formed hollow; the Moon having once been its own planet, until its relatively recent capture by the Earth.

(Interestingly enough, the impossible celestial mechanics required for the Moon to be in its present orbit become much more probable if one considers it to be a hollow body. If, indeed, it was steered into our orbit by aliens however long ago, this would certainly have made their job a lot easier!).

Unfortunately, orthodox scientists have as much (if not MORE) trouble accepting the Hollow Earth Theory as they do the Spaceship Moon theory.

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Unfortunately, orthodox scientists have as much (if not MORE) trouble accepting the Hollow Earth Theory as they do the Spaceship Moon theory.
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Why is this so? Would it be that there are vested intests in this, so the rest of
humans are suppossed to stay ignorant that the Earth is Hollow.
When some people are told that the Earth is Hollow react, that you are either insulting them, with a closed mind, a conditioned mind, or that you are not being serious.

Somehow they have made a good job on making this new generation forget
Admiral Richard E. Byrd. You can find something in internet ,but never again on the media, last time was in 1947. This truth has been buried with the night of the times.

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Unfortunately, orthodox scientists have as much (if not MORE) trouble accepting the Hollow Earth Theory as they do the Spaceship Moon theory.
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Why is this so? Would it be that there are vested intests in this, so the rest of
humans are suppossed to stay ignorant that the Earth is Hollow.
When some people are told that the Earth is Hollowed react, that you are either insulting them, with a closed mind, a conditioned mind, or that you are not being serious.

Somehow they have made a good job on making this new generation forget
Admiral Richrad E. Byrd. You can find something in internet ,but never again on the media, last time was in 1947. This truth has been buried with the night of the times.

Yes, Byrd's discoveries were buried in the sands of time by the controllers who do not want this information to come out.

My guess is that the controllers do not want the truth of a cavernous Earth to become public knowledge because there are secrets galore down there which the controllers want to remain secret; once the idea that the Earth may be partially hollow becomes known, it opens a whole can of worms: like, just what the hell is going on down there and why haven't we been told about this before? It's similar to the whole UFO question - governments cannot admit the existence of ETs because that too will open another can of worms with thousands of questions to answer which the controllers have no intention of doing. Both of these issues, the hollow Earth and ETs, are areas of extreme manipulation of humanity which, once known, would jeopardize their entire power structure.

Secrecy is paramount for the controllers; it's the means whereby they're allowed to carry on their nefarious schemes without adult supervision.

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Yes, Byrd's discoveries were buried in the sands of time by the controllers who do not want this information to come out.

My guess is that the controllers do not want the truth of a cavernous Earth to become public knowledge because there are secrets galore down there which the controllers want to remain secret; once the idea that the Earth may be partially hollow becomes known, it opens a whole can of worms: like, just what the hell is going on down there and why haven't we been told about this before? It's similar to the whole UFO question - governments cannot admit the existence of ETs because that too will open another can of worms with thousands of questions to answer which the controllers have no intention of doing. Both of these issues, the hollow Earth and ETs, are areas of extreme manipulation of humanity which, once known, would jeopardize their entire power structure.

Secrecy is paramount for the controllers; it's the means whereby they're allowed to carry on their nefarious schemes without adult supervision.
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MAYBE SOME DAY HOPEFULLY, SOME TOP SECRET PAPERS OF Hollow Earth,
will be declassified, mainly everything related to Richard E. Byrd ,
and also what the Germans found in times of Hitler, who took the Hollow Earth seriously.
The Pentagon, CIA, and world Intelligences agencies must have this information, I just hope we live to see this secrecy disclosed.
An exploration to hollow earth has been told will be made since 2007, and for one reason or another have pushed it forwad, now it was supposed to be in 2012, but I just will have to see it happen to believe it.
And hope the censors and controllers allow it to happen, since they must be infiltrated everywhere most surely.

Haven't seen anything new updated in videos, although there is lots of material on hollow earth.

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The Nazis sought to prove that the earth was hollow.
In a book called : MAYA: Reality is an Illusion by Miguel Serrano
I find in the last chapter the following , that is said about the Hollow Earth:

"Three years ago, i received an unexpected visit of a world known writer.
It came from Germany to bring an extraordinary document: a letter written by
a German submariner that said to be "inside the earth", because Rudolph Hess and Haushofer were right: THE EARTH IS HOLLOW.

The handwritten letter, in german dated April 20, 1947 ,
meant to say that these "syncronisms" come to support us, because as the alquimist
says: "If you are doing the job right, unknown friends will come to your help..." and "even if you find yourself alone in your room, your thoughts will be heard thousands of leagues of
distance from where you are"...

TRANSLATION:
April 20, 1947
Dear old comrade:
This letter will be a surprise to you. The submarine U-Boot 209 has made it. The Earth is HOLLOW! Dr. Haushofer and Hess were right. The entire crew finds itself well, but we cannot return. We are not prisioners. I am sure that this message will arrive to you; this is the last contact wiith U-209. We will see each other again comrade..
Signature ILLEGIBLE

Letter from Hans Willi to Howard Emmajean, dated may 8, 1990
Dear howard &Emmajean.

The two briefs received of 7 mai and R.C. Thank you so much!!!

The mission of the U-290 was one of the most fanstastic missions
of the Third Reich. It certainly involved the Occultist influence of
Hitler, Himmler, Heydtrich and Dr. Larl Hauschofer....

The mission of the U-290 was to follow ancient charts, and to enter
a gigantic undersea mountain opening. This was believed to lead to the Center of the Earth!! Yes, it was beleived that in the center lay Agharta!!!

The U-290 did not return, and thus the letter from an old friend
who was aboard the 290. This letter states that the U-290's mission
was completed, that the earth IS HOLLOW, and not only that, also inhabited. The boat was commanded by Heinnrich Brodda.

The mission was entitled ASGARD

The man who wrote me the letter while I was staying with my cousins was
JOSEPH MUNDT. Special appointee of the Reich's mysterious AHNENERBE
bureau under Himler and Heydrich. This is and still is the Ancestral
Bureau of the Nordic Race, which came from the north, and believed that
they came from an opening near the North Polar area ,which led to the Center
of the Earth..........Many old nordic legends claim this as well as
several Native American Legends (Amerindians).

Mundt was not in Argentina, the letter was mailed from there ,Stating that
the U-290 accomplished its mission, but none could return, yet they were NOT prisioners. Most strange and I know that this defies the credibility of RATIONAL THOUGHT though,
but I think there are many things we DO NOT KNOW.

Haushofer, very strange pronouncement on the Obelisk, in Runic Symbols,
Beyond this point lies Agharta, and there are more things IN Heaven and In EARTH
THAT MAN HAS DREAMT.........As stated previously, there was a most profound influence in the Third Reich of the Occult or is Occut sometimes TRUTH that is not yet understood,
or perhaps OLD knowledge that man has lost his way in this world after losing it....

The 629 had her encounter with a flying Disc off Afrika in Mai 1943.
Some place that film still exists. I think it is very likely the very
first photos of a Flying Disc, alter seen by allied and Luftwaffe
pilots over Europe.

A most pleasant sojourn to you both my friends in EUROPA(:::)
An Angel in the front and Angel in the back for your protection and guidance while away.
God bless you both.

Faithfully

WILLIE


Edit:
I personally think that these letters could or could not mean something, but it is worth
looking at the information about the Hollow Earth, and the distance dates between each letter 1947 and 1990. It is for us to decide..
David Icke talks about this in his book THE BIGGEST SECRET.

Interesting letters, I bet there are many more like these.

Also found this internet:

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/GermanU-209.htm


German Submarine U-209 Made It To Our Hollow Earth!

I first learned about German U Boats attempting to reach our hollow earth from a German living in Canada. The book I ordered was from Samisdat Publishers, Ltd, owned and operated by Ernst Zundel. He wrote a book about Hitler sending an expedition to Antarctica. I ordered his book. It was titled, Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions, published in 1978. It related how the Germans had taken a ship with a small airplane on it that they launched from their ship after reaching the ice near Antarctica. It flew over the ice to Antarctica and then back to the ship. But the book didn't say anything about the hollow earth.

Then in 2006 I received an email from Dianne Robbins, author of several books she has channeled from a person she says is Mikos that lives in the hollow earth.

The person Dianne emailed me about was Joe Watson of Talkeetna, Alaska, who had just contacted her saying that he had a copy of a letter written in the German language from a German submarine crewman named Karl Unger, that made it to our hollow earth soon after World War II. The submarine name was U-209 with Captain Heinrich Brodda.

Joe's original email to Diane was,

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe
To: r.com
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:47 AM
Subject: hollow earth

"Hi, I have in my possession a copy of a letter written on 2 March 1985 from a gentleman named Karl Unger to Mr. Woodard concerning the submarine u-209 commanded by Heinrich Brodda. Given certain coordinates their mission was to travel to the center of the earth, which they did. The letter is written in German and translated into English. Interested? JW"

I wrote back asking Joe to send me the letter.

This is the letter Karl Unger wrote from the Hollow Earth that Joe sent me in the original German language and the translation into English.

The letter is from Karl Unger, crew member of the German U-209 submarine. Karl says in his letter that he had reached the hollow earth in the German U-209 submarine. The letter was sent to his friend here on the surface world who gave a copy of it to a Mr. Woodard, who gave a copy to Joe Watson.

On July 29, 2009, I received an email from a person named Patrick from Germany who speaks German. He said he researched the German archive website at

http://www.u-boote-online.de/dieboote/u0209.html

looking for information on the missing U-209 German submarine. He says the submarine was indeed reported missing. On July 5, 1943 was it's last reported position between Greenland and Iceland at coordinates 52°00'N-38°00'W. The report said the Commander of the submarine was Heinrich Brodda.

The Mr. Woodard that Joe Watson referred to in his email I later found out was Ret. Col. Billie Woodard. This is what Joe wrote about him in another email:

---- Joe <watson4@mtaonline.net> wrote:

Sorry I haven't got back to you, have had massive rain, flooding, power out phones down, etc. Dianne Robbins e mailed me back saying the letter was unreadable on her end. Maybe you can try it on your end as you now have a copy. As to how I have a copy of this letter, well here's the story. In 1986 or 87 this gentleman Woodward came into this town of Talkeetna Alaska, but I don't know why. He met a guy I know named Terry Barber who told me what he was planning on doing. After meeting him he told me the following. His Dad had read all the Hollow Earth books had maps and ocean current directions for different times of the year. He died and his son took up where he had left off. He had it figured out that if you flew to Norway and floated on these currents with large rubber rafts you would be taken into the center of the earth. He gave his car away here in Talkeetna flew to L. A. Calif where he was to meet the rest of his team, from there to Norway where all of the gear was waiting. I asked him how he thought he could get away with this without the Feds picking up on it with their satellites, his reply was they were going in under the pretense of a scientific team doing research. He offered to let me go with them and if I hadn't had two boys to raise I would have. Apparently the letter was to his Dad but I don't remember how all of that came about. Having read many of the Hollow Earth books I always believed it was possible. He also claimed to have the original diary of Admiral Byrd describing his 1700 mile journey into the earth. Anyway he let me get a copy of the letter which you now have. As to why now after all these years, hell I don't know I was cruising the net and ran across a link about the Hollow Earth and it brought up old memories of that letter. Give it to anyone you want I want nothing in return, maybe a little info if you will share it. If you send me your address I will make copies of the German and English version and send them to you. The same for Dianne . Any other questions will be happy to oblige if I can. Joe Watson POB 643 Talkeetna
Alaska 99676

I learned about Ret. Col. Billie Woodard in 2006, but at that time I did not follow up on him. I had received an email from our expedition organizer, Steve Currey. It said,

June 9, 2005:

"Rodney:

I have had a retired colonel Woodard call me a couple of times today about our
expedition. I am having a hard time answering his questions. He said in his
last voice mail that he has some extremely important information to give us
about our expedition. Could you return his call? His numbers are
and . He lives in Mount Shasta California and has some connection
with Telos.

Thanks,

Steve"

Although I did not follow up on this referral from Steve, Mr. Woodard called me in the fall of 2008. We visited over the phone and later visited him at his home in Pahrump, Nevada where he had moved to since he contacted Steve. It turns out that Ret. Col. Billie Woodard WAS the "Mr. Woodard" that had gone to Alaska in 1986 as Joe Watson said in his email, and had given him copies of the German letter send from our hollow earth to Woodard's contact. Subsequent to Woodard's visit to Talkeetna, he made his flight to the North Polar Opening in a Grumman Albatross seaplane that you can read about in Billie's biography here.

I asked Billie where he got the German letter. He told me he got it from Tawani W. Shoush, International Society for a Complete Earth, Rt 1 Box 63, Houston, Missouri 85483. In the early 80's, Hollow Earth Researcher, Bruce Walton had sent me a copy of the Secret Diary of Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd that he had obtained from Tawani Shoush with the above contact information on it. Billie told me that Tawani told him that he had received the letter from his friend Karl Unger sent by Karl after he had reached the hollow earth. Karl had sent the letter from the hollow earth through a German colony in Brazil that had found a cavern that reaches to the hollow earth many years previous. Billie says that Tawani left for Brazil soon after he had obtained a copy of Karl Unger's letter, and may have gone to the hollow earth through that communicating cavern. This German colony in Brazil is documented in Genesis For a New Age, and how they discovered the cavern back in the 1500's.

I find it interesting that before I was contacted by and met Ret. Col. Billie Woodard, I had received Joe Watson's email which confirmed Mr. Woodard had visited his town in Alaska in 1986, and that Joe had a letter Mr. Woodard had received from Tawani Shoush whom I had learned about from Bruce Walton when I was writing my ebook, World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow! back in the early 1980's. Billie confirmed to me that he had contacted Tawani Shoush before going to Alaska, and this before Billie knew that I had been contacted by Joe Watson of Talkeetna, Alaska in August, 2006, and this before I learned about John Leith's book, Genesis for a New Age, the manuscript of which Diane sent me in the summer of 2008, through a friend of hers, which documents the German settlement in Brazil, that Billie told me Tawani Shoush moved to after Billie had received the letter from Karl Unger.

These incidents confirm to me the truth of Karl Unger's letter - that he reached Our Hollow Earth in a German submarine, the U-209, in 1943 after World War II had destroyed Germany, and who wrote back to his friend here on the surface world confirming that the Hollow Earth does exist, and is REAL.

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Maybe you should delete the phone numbers in the previous post and the email address. Really not sure what to conclude where are the photos and samples?

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Maybe you should delete the phone numbers in the previous post and the email address. Really not sure what to conclude where are the photos and samples?

Ok admajic! done friend!. :D

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"Hole" = "Pole."

North hole, South hole :p

edit- "People" comes from those on the other (our) side of the "peep hole." :D

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Found this on BBC:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6405667.stm

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Polar History And Polar Mysteries


http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/17/polar-history-and-polar-mysteries/


OKLAHOMA CITY – It was 100 years ago today that British explorer, Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, reached the South Pole in Antarctica along with four other brave men.
A mixture of heroism and tragedy makes the story of Scott and his ill-fated Terra Nova Expedition in 1911-12 so compelling, even a century later.
It was in the mid-1980’s, as a teen, that I began reading stories about famous explorers, particularly in the polar regions.
The one book that captivated me the most was Reginald Pound’s 1966 biography of Scott titled Scott of the Antarctic. I still have this one on my shelf.
Pound had had access to Scott’s journals and when he wrote the chapter about the heartbreaking realization Scott and his men had upon arriving at the Pole, only to find out the Norwegians, led by Roald Amundsen, had arrived first – 33 days earlier.
Wrote Pound in the chapter “Heartbreak at the Pole”: “At the head of his journal page for Wednesday 17 January 1912, he penciled THE POLE in shaky, inch-high capital letters, and recorded that ‘none of us slept much after the shock of our discovery.’
His revelation of dismay is important in the light of later claims that he was unmoved by his eclipse. It seems likely that his personal disappointment was more profound than he or anyone else realized.
In crushing out zest and hope, it may have inflicted injury at deeper levels of his being. ‘Well, we have turned our backs on the goal of our ambition with sore feelings, and must face 800 miles of solid dragging – and goodbye to most of the daydreams! Great God! This is an awful place.’”

RedIceCreations.com - Dr, Brooks Agnew hopes to lead the "North Pole Inner Earth Expedition" sometime this year.
Scott and his men would perish on the gruelling return trek. In their memory, a wooden cross was placed at Observation Hill, Antarctica that featured lines from the poem Ulysses by Alfred, Lord Tennyson: “One equal temper of heroic hearts / Made weak by time and fated, but strong in will / To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.”
Scott and his men – Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Edgar Evans and Lawrence Oates – were not perfect men. Scott, in particular, has been called a bungler and had his flaws exposed many times over. But he was driven to explore and take risks, in the name of discovery, as so many before him had done.

Which brings me to the present day. As a fan of Red Ice Radio, with Henrik Palmgren, I listened to a most fascinating interview Palmgren had with Dr. Brooks Agnew.
Agnew is planning to lead the “North Pole Inner Earth Expedition” sometime this year. Agnew explained that there is a legend – a belief – that at a certain place above the Arctic Circle, there exists an oceanic depression (where the sea level is not sea level) or an entrance into the interior of the Earth, giving credence to the idea that the Earth is hollow.
As Agnew explained, the science exists that allow explorers to enter the inner Earth. Sure, it’s controversial, but as author Tim R. Swartz wrote in his 2007 book Admiral Byrd’s Secret Journey Beyond the Poles, the “Hollow Earth” theory is “a theory that refuses to die” and is often dismissed as a crackpot theory that is scientifically implausible.

In this exciting year of 2012 – 100 years after the end of the Golden Age of Polar Exploration – it is indeed inspiring to see that there are modern-day explorers seeking to learn more about our own planet and how it was formed.
What will Agnew and his team find? No one is really sure. It is interesting to note that Agnew is a descendant of the Scottish explorer James Ross, who is credited with the discovery of the Magnetic North Pole in 1831.
As Agnew writes on his site NPIEE.org, about what he believes will be “the greatest expedition in the history of the world”: “The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition is by far the most innovative and courageous exploration effort in modern times.
We are unable to go to the Moon. We are decades away from manned exploration to Mars. This Expedition to the North Pole region is possible and within reach.”
Agnew, a physicist and the team’s scientific project director, explained to Red Ice Radio host Henrik Palmgren that they plan to take two nuclear-powered Russian icebreaking ships – the only known civilian ships that can do this – deep into the Arctic Ocean in hopes of finding the “oceanic depression” and the entrance into the Inner Earth.

Agnew and others are embracing a new hypothesis about how planets are formed, that they form as hollow spheres, rather than as solid balls, and that there is significant gravity on the inside of the crust.”

While Antarctica is largely off limits to civilians, due to scientific and military projects o that ice-bound continent, the Arctic regions and North Pole area are largely ice and sea and no permanent bases are there, making it fair game for the scientifically curious to go up there and see what they can see and perform experiments while filming everything.
They will survey the ocean floor and marine life, take core samples from the sea floor, and sample the physical and chemical properties of the region at different depths while observing the sky above, with a helicopter.
Will the Russians allow this? Agnew told Palmgren that the Russians have been very supportive of their plans. There is historic precedence with the Russian interest in exploring the unknown, particularly when involving the Arctic and the Inner Earth, as noted in the fascinating new book by Andrei Znamenski titled Red Shambhala: Magic, Prophecy and Geopolitics in the Heart of Asia.

After the Bolshevik revolution, spiritual seekers, occultists and scientists within the Soviet Union began to seek out the secrets of Tibet. It addresses “field trips” made to the Arctic to study “Arctic hysteria” among the indigenous Lapps, also known as the Saami people.
The work of French occultist Alexndre Sant-Yves d’Alveydre were of particular importance to these Soviet Communist seekers. D’Alveydre’s thoughts on “synarchism” – basically “joint rule” or “rule by a secret elite” – were of interest to these Communists as they worked to control the masses. And so was D’Alveydre’s interest in “Agartha” the legendary city said to reside inside the Earth’s core, often linked to legendary Shambhala, noted in Tibetan Buddhist texts.
Ancient wisdom was believed to be housed there and some elements within the Soviet government were intrigued by the efforts of idealistic seekers like Alexander Barchenko, who sought out “Shambhala wisdom” as a way to teach the violent and ignorant peasants and Bolshevik elite to be more “humane and compassionate to one another.”
As Znamenski writes in Red Shambhala: “(Barchenko) constantly talked about the mysterious land of Shambhala and wanted to bring its spiritual wisdom and psychological techniques to Red Russia.”
It’s an absolutely fascinating read and has only recently been revealed via the Soviet archives.

So, when Dr. Brooks Agnew, an American, says in his interview that the Russians “want to explore this area too” and have agreed to participate in a joint venture to this area of the Arctic, it reminds one of the previous interest made by the Russians in the early years of the Soviet Union. Agnew said that even if another nation tries to prevent the ship from venturing forth with their expedition, they will get it on film “and the whole world will see it live.”
Will there be an international incident in Russian waters over this? No one can say. Regardless, though, Agnew said the Russians are eager to venture forth with the expedition and will offer their help as they charge northward “breaking ice for eight days solid.”
“They are so excited about it,” Agnew told Palmgren, adding, “They want to participate in this.”
All the while, scientific and metaphysical experiments will be taking place. There will be meditation and “human consciousness classes” taking place. Agnew says he hopes a “consciousness beacon” that they create during the expedition will be warmly received by any beings who may be in the Inner Earth.

So where is this “oceanic depression” and possible Inner Earth entrance? According to Agnew, it is 86 degrees North, 141 degrees East – “way, way up in the Arctic Circle,” based on historical space and maritime data. Interestingly, satellite photos of the North Pole is often “blacked out” or not visible. The impression is that governments do not want folks to know what is really up there.
Yet, Agnew and the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition intend to go forth from Murmansk, likely this summer, with their $2 million trip and cover 10-12,000 square miles in 15 days with both the ship and the helicopter.
Oh, and they are still raising money for the NPIEE and you can go to the website and donate to this historic event.
Right now, 100 people are expected to take part in the expedition. Said Agnew: “We decided these 100 people had to be very special people.”
A film production advisor, a chief historian and even a “leader in the exopolitics movement” who will be in charge of communicating with any beings they may come in contact with.
So, as we remember the achievements of those brave explorers 100 years ago, we look towards the future in this most amazing year and wish our modern-day explorers a safe journey as they seek to unlock the mysteries of a world that may indeed be beneath our feet.

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http://www.litcorner.net/component/content/article/618-suppressions/7543-brooks-agnew-hour-1-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-in-2012


Here is a well woooooorth listening 2 hour interviiiiiiiew to Brooks Agnew
in Ice red Radio in the video

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http://www.litcorner.net/component/content/article/618-suppressions/7543-brooks-agnew-hour-1-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-in-2012


Here is a well worth listening 2 hour interview to Brooks Agnew
in Ice red Radio in the video. His expedition to Hollow Earth 2012.
Couldn't find anything more updated to this year 2012.
It seems teh expedition (if it takes place) should be in June 2012

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Anybody got any updates?

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http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearthbyrd.jpg


Entrace to Hollow Earth through the Poles.



http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/the-hollow-earth-theory/
THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES

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Stewart Swerdlow had an interesting story about an elderly gentleman he knew who could remember being in school in the 20's and being taught about admiral Byrd and the entrance to the hollow earth, and some government heavies turned up one day and swapped all the books that had references with books they'd brought with them....

who knows
It is a World Government TOP SECRET, no wonder it is not easy to find books on Hollow Earth, The Pentagon must have all the best information, and also the disinformation for all us to be thrown in internet.

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http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearthbyrd.jpg

Entrace to Hollow Earth through the Poles.

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/the-hollow-earth-theory/
THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES

Great picture.

Interesting site. Thanks for the link.:cool:

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muvrick | November 24, 2011 at 7:41 am | Reply

Two things, polar restrictions and speed of light.

The polar opening is a restricted area. There are several documented cases of planes attempting to fly there but are met and escorted away by fighter jets from the USAF. One quotation I found (but I have read this elsewhere, and it may be in the Brooks Agnew interviews linked on this page): My friend Ivars, one of the first persons that I sold my book to years ago, called me the other day and we reminisced times we spent together talking about the hollow earth. He recounted to me the time he met an airline pilot on a flight to his home town in South Carolina. He said he made a point of sitting next to airline pilots that were getting a free flight by wearing their uniform and going as a passenger. This one pilot turned out to have a very interesting story. Ivars, in his usual way, sat down next to him on this flight and started asking him questions. What airline did he fly for? Delta Airline. Had he ever flown in the Arctic? Why yes, many times. Did you notice anything unusual up there? At this point, the pilot wanted to know why he was so interested in the Arctic and what was up there. Ivars said that he was just very interested in something unusual up there. Then the pilot just opened up and said, “Well, if you’re wondering if a polar opening exists up there and if I have seen it, I have. All Arctic airline pilots have seen it. But we’re under strict orders from the military through our company not to go around telling people, and if you ever tell anyone I told you this, I could get into a whole lot of trouble. ”



Found this opinion in the link

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Found this opinion in the link

Has a ring of truth to it....

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Has a ring of truth to it....

Even though it contradicts itself?

The polar opening is a restricted area. There are several documented cases of planes attempting to fly there but are met and escorted away by fighter jets from the USAF

so no-one can fly over there otherwise they'll get the air force on their ass but...

All Arctic airline pilots have seen it

There's a very disingenuous use of Apollo photographs on the page, namely this one:

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/prt-5.gif

The caption (in case you can't see it) says "Two different images of earth showing the same feature at the north pole".

They should show the same feature - they were taken about half an hour apart. It's these two photographs:

AS16-16-18880

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS16/118/18880.jpg

and

AS16-16-18885

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/browse/AS16/118/18885.jpg

If you look at the satellite records for the period of the Apollo 16 mission, you can see that the supposed hole in the pole is just a clear part of a large weather system that evolves over several days. Zooming in on high quality versions of the same region taken later in the Apollo 16 mission shows that the 'hole' has completely gone.

You can check the satellite data for yourself here:

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/TIROS/Z6685U64no5-334.pdf

(Warning: the above is a very large file)

The Apollo image in question was used in the film 'Apollo 13' as the returning spacecraft homes in on Earth.

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http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearthbyrd.jpg
THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES

I didn't want to post, thinking the shills would enter the room, but since they have....


That image must be fake. You can see stars, after all. :D

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http://www.bodymindhealing.info/byrd.php
Armstrong on Admiral Richard Evely Byrd Secret Dairy

Here is Part:
http://ARMSTRONG In the first tape I mentioned I was going to also discuss Admiral Byrd and a treatise which is titled A Flight to the Land Beyond the North Pole or is this the Secret Diary of Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd. Now I want to say something to you, my many years in the government for those who know me know that I spent 22 years with the Government with high echelon agencies such as the one known as the CIA today and of course with the Green Beret for 10 years and other top assignments. Even after I retired I came back of course as a civilian. During one of my memorable times with government I was with the agency now known as the Central Intelligence Agency and there was a nephew of Admiral Byrd who was working at that time for the Agency and my recollection calls to mind that he told me that his uncle indeed had a diary that was going to be released one of these days for publication for those who were ready for it that had to do with his trip into and beyond the North Pole. So you know there's a first hand confirmation that I received as a young man, I was a young captain at the time; of course in those days I was not where I am now. I said, "Oh sure you know", and rather let it pass. But when this document came into my hands it was sent to me and told by the one who gave it to me to share it with the world I then of course jarred my memory and I remembered this young man the nephew of Admiral Byrd actually telling me and relating this particular story. So from my point of view I feel that the document is indeed right on and very true. Now this document was of course prepared by the same man who wrote the book The Hollow Earth. He was Dr William Bernard. O.K. I am going to now put this document on tape for you so that you can be as privileged as I am to hear its contents. All right the introduction is by Dr William Bernard and he says: The reader of the following documentation should find a striking example of devotion especially when one considers that this combination log diary was written in the year 1947 in the months of February and March. ARMSTRONG Now ironically enough I was with the CIA during that time and before of course that year 1947

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That second link took me to a furniture website!
The first link worked ok though.

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I'd like to hear the second hour also. In my inner ear. :p

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Hmm Hollow Earth 'theory'.

Well the first thing is wouldn't we be able to tell if the earth was hollow with gravity and such?

Secondly: Gravity, the natural attraction between objects would surely mean that a large body like the earth would be rather dense in the middle :D

If the rotation of the earth was fast enough for the inside to be constantly stuck to the inside of the crust leaving a big space in the middle... then wouldn't it be rather more donut shaped than spherical considering the earth spins about an axis?

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R4UowUNjLDg/S-II92vuYBI/AAAAAAAAAEM/G5INeCjQnnc/s320/eShapeToroidal.jpg


http://nuestropensar.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hollow11.jpg



http://s3.hubimg.com/u/2396126_f520.jpg




Donut Shape of the Earth?
No, I go for the Round Earth with the Opening of the Poles
and multiple entrances in different places of the Globe to enter to Hollow Earth.
Anyway what is under discussion here is the Earth being a Solid Sphere(SS) versus the Earth being hollow.
The atom is hollow , so all planets must be hollow also.

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Have You Seen These North And South Pole Photos?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8899/polesn.jpg
North Pole

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6410/poles2.jpg
South Pole


By Kitty Loberg

I have some remarkable images (below) which I haven't seen anyone do on the internet. I believe in seeking the truth.

I'm semi-retired and occasionally teach computer science at a community college. I have been a webmaster for 3 small-medium size websites, and I love taking pictures and working with photography. I have become pretty good with Photoshop over 5 years.

I have been very interested in my own personal paranormal research on UFOs, alien races, and have viewed most of Project Camelot's videos. I have followed the channeled messages from the Federation of Light about Oct. 14th, and that is what led me a discovery and the reason I want to get this word out.

I became aware of a You Tube video titled “Look what I found on Google Earth” and the suggestion that a large blue rectangle thing was the “table” which the channeller Blossom Goodchild had mentioned. Someone wrote to Blossom Goodchild and for a couple of days, she had on her website “Oct 3rd) Please take Note of this, surely it means something!” in huge red letters. Another website she referred to shows Alabama Hill in Australia, and said when they looked up into the sky with Google Earth from that hill, it looked like a giant table. I saw the message and felt a little skeptical, and decided I'd go try to find it on Google Earth myself.

NASA and the European Space Agency has photos of the Moon and Mars on their sites. Some months ago, I downloaded from ESA, the photo of Crater Hale on Mars, and I used Photoshop to adjust contrast and was able to see for myself, evidence of civilization, or past civilization on Mars. Richard Hoagland too, wrote his book Dark Mission, and in his Project Camelot interview where he describes pictures of Lunar ruins and mechanical artifacts that can be shown with Photoshop.

There is lots of evidence based on these types of photos which lead me to believe our American military/government/NASA has lied to us, that NASA uses “brush” technology on photos to brush away evidence of UFOs or evidence of alien civilizations, and is STILL doing this today.

Now on to what I want to say about the Google Earth unexplainable blue retangular “tables”. I wanted to try to replicate what they were saying. First thing I found out was that I needed to be using the newest release of Google Earth, which is 4.3.7.

One thing I want to mention, to those who may not be familiar with Google Earth, is that ALL satelite images originate from NASA. It says so on Google Earth. (Don't forget to remember that images from NASA are possibly subject to screening and brushing before release to the public. )

This newest release of Google Earth has a new “layer” feature which allows you to turn on a layer for weather… real time weather for the whole globe. And sure enough, with the Weather Layer turned on, there was the darker blue rectangular area on the globe, but it wasn't Australia like the other website claimed, it was covering the North Pole. I found out, when you toggle on the weather, the blue rectangular area showed, when it is toggled off, it doesn't show.

If you're not familiar with Google Earth, you should understand that the base topography layer is a old pictures, they could be 1 or 2 years old. Just zoom into your own address, and you will see your house, and if you look closely, you will see that it is old pictures. I'm guessing my own house is 1-2 years old. The land formations don't really change much, so Google leaves up the old pictures. Additionally, to get ALL of earth without showing clouds which would cover the surface, they probably have joined many pictures together and selected ones from a sunny/clear day for the whole globe. That makes the base topography.

However, when you click on a layer for weather you are getting near real-time weather from the satellites. And this phenomenon of the rectangular blue areas changes in a matter of hours. If it's real time weather, you might expect it to change every hour they update it.

My theory, is that NASA is covering up something with a blue screen layer so that we can't see what is hiding underneath.

I have looked at the north pole several times over two days, and I have done screen copies to save what I saw, and I have different images at different times. It is not always a rectangle. Look closely at the picture below, there is a five sided geometrical shape to the blue screen. At first you might think it was a triangle on the left… but look, it extends underneath the clouds on the right. It basically is covering up all of the North pole so we can't see it. They have somehow overlaid some clouds on the right portion of the five sided geometrical shape, but it's there. Several times I've closed Google Earth, and opened an hour later, and the shape of this blue thing changes… because I'm looked at a refreshed layer from the Windows layer.

I did not find any other blue screens on any other continent. I did find two strange things on the south pole. The important one is the direct South Pole itself. Please look at my picture of the South Pole (original).

What do you see in this picture? Do you notice the strange central circle? You really have to look at it on Google Earth to get a good sense of what is, or is not there. This is not like the screened out blue on the north pole. This almost looks like you’re looking through something into a picture of better clarity. However, this picture does NOT have the Weather layer turned on. When I turn on the weather, it is still there. What I suspect, is that it is some previous photography layered over the top, again, hiding something underneath.

So I took screen shots of this unexplained area and dropped it into Photoshop. Any student in a community college class taking Photoshop could do what I've described, it's not that hard. Using the same adjustment tools that I used on Mars photos, I changed the contrast to see what it would show. I’ve used a feature in Photoshop called adjusting “Curves”. It’s a way of adjusting contrast of adjoining pixels. What is interesting, is that direct center… where the north pole really is, will NOT darken. Whatever picture was there, there is something very bright in the center where no pixels will darken, the DIRECT center of the south pole. It sure seems like it is LIGHT coming from the earth's surface outward!

Two days ago I took some pictures with my digital camera of the sun, through a welding helmet which has a lens to cut out the bright sunlight. I loaded them into Photoshop and tried adjusting the photos. No matter what I did, the center light where the sun was would not darken. It was so bright, there simply were no pixels that Photoshop could adjust.

Is NASA, in fact, covering up something on the South Pole as well? Right under our noses with Google Earth!

I remember a story of an incident decades ago, a story of an air force pilot who “flew” his airplane up to the north pole, and found an opening into the center of our earth, and he flew in. From that story, there are some who say our earth is inhabited on the inside with other beings, with a small sun inside. Up to yesterday, I was thinking that “story”, was crazy. I researched internet to find the story again, it was Admiral Byrd and he did his flight in 1947. Here is a website : http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ExpeditionUpdate13.htm

And then I remembered another story, I know I saw somewhere on the internet that another person had uncovered photos of one or two of other planets in our solar system, which also had evidence of the holes at the poles which led into the center of the planets. His theory was that there was an internal sun or energy source inside the planets, and that sunlight was shining out through the holes, which he thought was evident on the NASA photos. Again, stories I had discounted.

I went searching again, and found several on You Tube about “hollow earth”: The Hollow Earth - YouTube, and there are many references to 'hollow plant's through browser searchs, e.g. http://www.holloworbs.com/Hollow_orbs.htm

Being the skeptic that I am, I went browsing the internet to see if I could find other “valid” photography of either the north or south poles… not just pictures of humans standing on the ground (no way to prove where they are standing), but aerial photos. I looked at weather channels… but if you look at their large weather pictures or the northern continents, they are ALL cut off at the very north pole. And all those pictures originate from NASA satellites.

If anyone can find valid AERIAL pictures of either the north or south poles, I want to see them.

Please, if you all can look at Google Earth...everyone on the internet can get to Google Earth. Take screen shots (copies) of what is out there and save, please do, before NASA hears of this and removes them. Those of you who are good with Photoshop, please do what I did.

I have found nobody through internet searches, or on YouTube, who has done exactly what I’ve done and shown you. I can tell you, when I realized the significance of this, I was STUNNED. I went looking for something to clarify and explain the strange blue rectangular “table” that some were anxious to connection to October 14th… but instead, found a revelation that has blown my socks off.

WHAT IS NASA COVERING UP AT THE NORTH AND SOUTH POLES? DOES THIS EVIDENCE SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT THIS PLANET DOES HAVE ENTRANCES AT THE POLES GOING INSIDE OUR EARTH?

I have since found stories of individuals reporting seeing UFOs going near the north pole. That's too long to go into detail here, I'm sure you can find them on the internet.

I hope you’ll help get this word out. I welcome feedback. Thank You.

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1008/poles2.html

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R4UowUNjLDg/S-II92vuYBI/AAAAAAAAAEM/G5INeCjQnnc/s320/eShapeToroidal.jpg


http://nuestropensar.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hollow11.jpg



http://s3.hubimg.com/u/2396126_f520.jpg




Donut Shape of the Earth?
No, I go for the Round Earth with the Opening of the Poles
and multiple entrances in different places of the Globe to enter to Hollow Earth.
Anyway what is under discussion here is the Earth being a Solid Sphere(SS) versus the Earth being hollow.
The atom is hollow , so all planets must be hollow also.

What kind of logic is that? Do you not understand what an atom is?

If the planet were spinning fast enough for this to happen then, since it is spinning about an axis the only way for it to be 'hollow' would be in a non spherical shape.

No I don't think the earth is donut shaped because that would be silly.

There is a reason why planets tend to be spherical and denser in the middle.

[rosie789]

Also regardng that picture:

The centre of gravity is in completely the wrong place!

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http://www.librarising.com/hollow/hollowarchives.html



GRAVITY IS LESS INSIDE THE EARTH
Gravity decreases dramatically just 10 to 25 miles beneath outer Earth's ocean level greatly improving your physical health. Here aging slows down and hunger and thirst begin to dissapear. The air, especially in caverns, is richly revitalizing due to the solar light which is filtered and dispersed as it penetrates the earth and surrounds you as a halo. Below 25 miles you lose two thirds of your weight and can hop around like the astronauts did on the Moon. You also become younger, smarter, stronger, and need very little rest or sleep. Light emanates from everywhere so that there are no shadows. All of these conditions intensify as you approach the planet's gravity center 700 miles down from the outer surface, where breath and heartbeat cease, where there is no weight, where telepathy becomes natural, and where thoughts move and shape matter. This is all described in the book Etidorpha by John Uri Loyd.

EARTH'S TRUE GRAVITY CENTER
Contrary to scientific teaching and popular belief, the Earth's true gravity center is not at its core but within its 800 mile thick shell. The Earth is hollow with polar openings and an interior sun. This sun is some 600 to 700 miles in diameter. The Earth'd shell varies in thickness from 400 to 800 miles in diameter(thicker near the equator) and the polar openings are anywhere from 800 to 1400 miles wide. Earth has two magnetic fields; one which originates from the inner central sun and travels very slowly around the poles and is the source of our aurora borealis and Van Allen belt or magnetosphere, and the other coming from inside the Earth's shell which gives us our gravity and which is variously placed at 300 to 700 miles beneath the planet's outer surface(deeper at the equator). This gravity center within the Earth's shell is the spirit of the Earth itself and is the official dividing line between inner and outer Earth. Gravity is some six times greater on the outer surface of the planet than on its inner surface so that much greater effort is needed to sustain life here. At the Equator, 700 miles down, we reach zero gravity(weightlessness) where the body is at perfect rest and becomes immortal or non-decaying. As we continue towards the inner surface for another hundred miles, gravity REVERSES, so that people and animals and all things here stand upside down from us! Their heads all point towards the inner central sun which lights and warms the interior of the planet. With unly one-sixth of the gravity of outer Earth, everything grows much faster and larger here and the length and quality of life is also proportionately greater. Astrologically, the ascendant or rising sign influence comes from this spiritual gravity center located deep within our planet's shell.

BREATHING AND BLOODFLOW DUE TO GRAVITY
The heaving of our chest(breathing) and the beating of our heart(blood flow)are abnormal conditions brought on by an abnormal environment. In John Uri Loyd's "Etidorpha", I Am The Man's guide explains that because of outer earth's intense gravity, our bodies must work extra hard to distribute oxygen evenly throughout -hence the heaving and beating. In zero gravity, however, no such pressure exists, therefore no breathing or bloodflow is required. This perfect state of equilibrium is experienced in the Earth's central gravity sphere some 700 miles below the outer surface. Here mind becomes ruler over matter and there is no ageing or degeneration. The inner earth surface is also quite good with only one-sixth the gravity of outer earth. This minimal gravity and its cocooned state are what make inner earth paradise-like. Outer earth can also become paradise-like once the planet's water canopy is restored and climate, light, and gravity are stabilized and/or equalized as a result.

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EARTH'S TRUE GRAVITY CENTER
Contrary to scientific teaching and popular belief, the Earth's true gravity center is not at its core but within its 800 mile thick shell.

Even if that were true the centre of gravity would not be in the shell. I'm surprised at the lack of basic knowledge of gravity on this forum. The centre of gravity is always a point and not a line.

Other questions: how would the earth get like that in the first place? The solid planet idea relies on there being smaller planets and rocks which eventually crash into each other, arranging themselves so that every point is as close to the centre as it can possibly be: a sphere.

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Hollow Earth Entrance #2 - Antarctica - YouTube

Antartica- 2 entrances, you can see them by using google earth.

Coordinates are:

-66.553096, 99.838918

-66.60351,99.719813

The shapes are really something, they are very easy to spot and they resemble certain being and entites that look very malevolent
There are also other entrances, look mainly at Peru and Tibet

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=-66.553203,99.837946&spn=0.002694,0.007145&t=h&z=17

[saty]

Hollow Earth Entrances are No Fly Zones!!!! - YouTube

another interesting vid:cool:

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Hollow Earth Agartha CNN Agatha Sinkhole Guatamala Ancient Sewer, East is West - YouTube

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What kind of logic is that? Do you not understand what an atom is?

If the planet were spinning fast enough for this to happen then, since it is spinning about an axis the only way for it to be 'hollow' would be in a non spherical shape.

No I don't think the earth is donut shaped because that would be silly.

There is a reason why planets tend to be spherical and denser in the middle.



We now know that atoms are 99.999999999% empty space. And, thanks to 'quantum physics', we now know that subatomic particles- electrons, protons and neutrons - are not solid either. They are made up of energy. So the world we think of as being solid is in fact empty space.

This means that there is plenty of room for other worlds, other dimensions, to take up the same space our own world but at a different frequency. We know this happens when different radio stations and different television stations and microwaves and x rays are all present in the same room but cannot be detected without the right kind of a receiver.

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We now know that atoms are 99.999999999% empty space. And, thanks to 'quantum physics', we now know that subatomic particles- electrons, protons and neutrons - are not solid either. They are made up of energy. So the world we think of as being solid is in fact empty space.

This means that there is plenty of room for other worlds, other dimensions, to take up the same space our own world but at a different frequency. We know this happens when different radio stations and different television stations and microwaves and x rays are all present in the same room but cannot be detected without the right kind of a receiver.

I understand that but they are not 'hollow' as people suggest, and comparing them with objects on another scale is extremely misleading.

Other worlds?????? How? Why do you think this???

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Look, these are the problems me, my sis and a friend have thought about with regards to the Hollow Earth 'theory'.

In the beginning there were lots of random rocks. These 'rocks' were attracted to each other by gravity so eventually they began to collide to form a solid shape. Eventually, if big enough, they would form a solid sphere where the gravitational potential is minimised.

It would collapse because it wouldn't be able to reach any kind of equilibrium.

Stars of any size have a large mass so this would cause a hollow earth to collapse.

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BTW it may also be relevant to properly understand the idea of centrifugal 'force'.

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http://hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/agharta-the-inner-earth/


Part of the article:


The patent states that, billions of years ago, when the Earth was still a mass of expanded gases, it gradually began to contract as it cooled. When a compromise was reached with centrifugal force, the force of gravity reduced the size of the mass until it was 8,000 miles in diameter at the Equator.

Now the earth was formless and empty. Genesis 1:2

Because the centrifugal force was considerably weaker in the Polar regions, gravity was able to further reduce those regions, but only until the mass finished cooling. As a result, the Earth did not solidify itself in the shape of a perfect sphere, but more so in the shape of a torus, with 1,400 mile wide openings at the North and South poles.[i]

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Look, these are the problems me, my sis and a friend have thought about with regards to the Hollow Earth 'theory'.

In the beginning there were lots of random rocks. These 'rocks' were attracted to each other by gravity so eventually they began to collide to form a solid shape. Eventually, if big enough, they would form a solid sphere where the gravitational potential is minimised.

It would collapse because it wouldn't be able to reach any kind of equilibrium.

Stars of any size have a large mass so this would cause a hollow earth to collapse.

In the beginning there was a NEBULA. Not rocks.
But it is clear to all, that you do not have an open mind, to think there is even a possibility of Hollow Earth.

If this is so, why do you think the Pentagon told Admiral Richard E. Byrd, to no longer talk about this? After all he went there to hollow earth with his entire crew. Why have his photos he must have taken there never been shown? Why are entrances to hollow earth , and skies guarded by the military. Doesn't that at least make you think a bit.
You talk about laws of sacience. But when the Erath was said to be flat, a "holy scientist decree", and then suddenly said to be round. Things are not so fixed. Scientists make mistakes ,and change their mind all the time.

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http://www.paranormallibrary.net/index.php?page=Hollow_Earth
Hollow Earth Library

Part fo the article, It states how this Hollow Earth has been talked about since the Greeks,
and throughout the centuries up until 21st Century, for your edification. A must read article.
read the rest.



The picture of the structure of the earth that has been arrived at through the study of seismic waves[46] is quite different from the hollow earth theory.

Another set of scientific arguments against a hollow Earth or any hollow planet comes from gravity. Massive objects tend to clump together gravitationally, creating non-hollow spherical objects we call stars and planets. The solid sphere is the best way in which to minimize the gravitational potential energy of a physical object; having hollowness is unfavorable in the energetic sense. In addition, ordinary matter is not strong enough to support a hollow shape of planetary size against the force of gravity; a planet-sized hollow shell with the known, observed thickness of the Earth's crust, would not be able to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium with its own mass and would collapse.

Someone on the inside of a hollow Earth would not experience a significant outward pull and could not easily stand on the inner surface; rather, the theory of gravity implies that a person on the inside would be nearly weightless. This was first shown by Newton, whose shell theorem mathematically predicts a gravitational force (from the shell) of zero everywhere inside a spherically symmetric hollow shell of matter, regardless of the shell's thickness. A tiny gravitational force would arise from the fact that the Earth does not have a perfectly symmetrical spherical shape, as well as forces from other bodies such as the Moon. The centrifugal force from the Earth's rotation would pull a person (on the inner surface) outwards if the person was traveling at the same velocity as the Earth's interior and was in contact with the ground on the interior, but even the maximum centrifugal force at the equator is only 1/300 of ordinary Earth gravity.

The mass of the planet also indicates that the hollow Earth hypothesis is unfeasible. Should the Earth be largely hollow, its mass would be much lower and thus its gravity on the outer surface would be much lower than it is.
Visual evidence


EDIT: 21st Century

In 2011, Horatio Valens and Paul Veneti presented a two-hour "Lazeria Map Collection" video on centuries-old maps of the Arctic region and the North Pole, making a case for a 100-mile wide canyon in the center of the physical North Pole, into which north-flowing rivers drain into a hollow Earth.[40] The maps were collected by Harry Hubbard.

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In the beginning there was a NEBULA

Yes but the frequent collisions of rocks, 'asteroids' made the earth what it is today.

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Asteroids are just part of the starstuff. Planetisimals and more that we don't even know about leads me to believe

There's more stuff that we don't know about. :)

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Hollow Earth Revealed- Series - YouTube
HOLLOW EARTH REVEALED SERIES

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Hollow earth gets mentioned in this documentary. PART 8 but it would be the best if you watch from the begining.

PLAUSIBLE POINTS FOR THE REPTILIAN CASE (1/22) - YouTube

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hollow earth strange photos. - YouTube
Hollow Earth strange photos

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The Hollow Earth- A slide show with Dean de Dominic De Lucia




The Hollow Earth - A SlideShow Presentation with Dean Dominic De Lucia - YouTube

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http://thehollowearthinsider.com/archives/1605

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http://imgn.dt07.net/1159/1159081_vb.jpg

NOW THE WEATHER FOR TOMORROW IN HOLLOW EARTH...
when will we know?

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http://imgn.dt07.net/1159/1159081_vb.jpg

NOW THE WEATHER FOR TOMORROW IN HOLLOW EARTH...
when will know?

:D:D

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The weather today will be fine and hot, just watch out for the high levels of radiation from our inner sun then brace for more earthquakes as the imperfect hollow earth with a large central mass starts to collapse again.

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The weather today will be fine and hot, just watch out for the high levels of radiation from our inner sun then brace for more earthquakes as the imperfect hollow earth with a large central mass starts to collapse again.

It's the Hollow Earth weather for TOMORROW Rosie789 LOL :D